I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarfrist, did you mean never?


Gravatarfrist, did you mean never?


GravatarScotty's going to be ruined for life after this job. What a maroon.


GravatarScotty's going to be ruined for life after this job. What a maroon.


GravatarThat's a rhetorical question, right? Cue Konopelli..."In a corporate state, the corporate media are..."

This is what makes it so evil. There are people at the levers who *know* when this administration looks like a collection of clowns, and those folks work overtime to prevent the public from seeing it.


GravatarThat's a rhetorical question, right? Cue Konopelli..."In a corporate state, the corporate media are..."

This is what makes it so evil. There are people at the levers who *know* when this administration looks like a collection of clowns, and those folks work overtime to prevent the public from seeing it.


GravatarBecause nobody cares - practically anyone who is slightly smarter than a rake knows it is just spin trying to avoid the appearance of outright lies. That it doesn't achieve that ideal is not noteworthy because tere is no sex or celebrity involved.


GravatarBecause nobody cares - practically anyone who is slightly smarter than a rake knows it is just spin trying to avoid the appearance of outright lies. That it doesn't achieve that ideal is not noteworthy because tere is no sex or celebrity involved.


GravatarWell, that's cuz there's so much news. You got your Scott Peterson, and your holiday shopping stories. You got your Briteny got married stories and a story about some crippled kid who got his xmas wish to meet a fireman. You got your weather report and your sports report and your traffic report and another holiday shopping report. Then, you got your solider calling home from
Germany to say hi to mom and, boom, next thing you know, it's time for reality tv.


GravatarWell, that's cuz there's so much news. You got your Scott Peterson, and your holiday shopping stories. You got your Briteny got married stories and a story about some crippled kid who got his xmas wish to meet a fireman. You got your weather report and your sports report and your traffic report and another holiday shopping report. Then, you got your solider calling home from
Germany to say hi to mom and, boom, next thing you know, it's time for reality tv.


GravatarBecause that would be too much work.

We can't have that now can we? the kool-kids can't be rocking the boat. They might not get invited to all the kool christmas parties and worse yet- they might get shut out of the $40 million coronation celebrations.


GravatarBecause that would be too much work.

We can't have that now can we? the kool-kids can't be rocking the boat. They might not get invited to all the kool christmas parties and worse yet- they might get shut out of the $40 million coronation celebrations.


GravatarDamn. I'd hoped that it would involve Helen, an enraged press corp, automatic weapons, barricaded doors, lil Scotty, duct tape, a ball gag and a list of demands.


GravatarDamn. I'd hoped that it would involve Helen, an enraged press corp, automatic weapons, barricaded doors, lil Scotty, duct tape, a ball gag and a list of demands.


Gravatarjimmiraybob- you forgot the cattle prod


Gravatarjimmiraybob- you forgot the cattle prod


GravatarIt is too complicated to explain why Scottie is skating closely around the edges of an outright lie. It also take too much time, which Hecate notes above is already filled with all the really important items.


GravatarIt is too complicated to explain why Scottie is skating closely around the edges of an outright lie. It also take too much time, which Hecate notes above is already filled with all the really important items.


GravatarHere's a better question. Most of the people who are in the gaggle actually do reports on TV where they are asked direct questions about their opinion, analysis, what have you. Terry Moran, I'm looking at you.

How come you never hear Terry say "well, at the Gaggle this morning..." or "Scott McClellan said this morning at the regularly held white house press meeting called a 'gaggle'...."?

The amount of self-censorship is astounding. Inside they must feel like Robin Williams at the end of Good Morning Vietnam, wanting to run with the 'real' story.


GravatarHere's a better question. Most of the people who are in the gaggle actually do reports on TV where they are asked direct questions about their opinion, analysis, what have you. Terry Moran, I'm looking at you.

How come you never hear Terry say "well, at the Gaggle this morning..." or "Scott McClellan said this morning at the regularly held white house press meeting called a 'gaggle'...."?

The amount of self-censorship is astounding. Inside they must feel like Robin Williams at the end of Good Morning Vietnam, wanting to run with the 'real' story.


Gravatarbecause the press corps feels they are lying to US, not them.


Gravatarbecause the press corps feels they are lying to US, not them.


GravatarAnd you're not letting me respond to it, Helen. I would like to respond to it, but you keep sitting there and not saying anything but you're thinking and I can hear you thinking and other people are thinking and I can hear them thinking too and it's really loud in here mommy santa jesus—I heard that!—and I'm trying to respond to you Helen…


GravatarAnd you're not letting me respond to it, Helen. I would like to respond to it, but you keep sitting there and not saying anything but you're thinking and I can hear you thinking and other people are thinking and I can hear them thinking too and it's really loud in here mommy santa jesus—I heard that!—and I'm trying to respond to you Helen…


GravatarLet me finish! Let me finish!


GravatarLet me finish! Let me finish!


GravatarHelen, Shut up! Shut up!

Somebody cut her mike!


GravatarHelen, Shut up! Shut up!

Somebody cut her mike!


GravatarHelen Thomas is the only pure journalist left in America. The rest have sold their souls to the corporate devil.


GravatarHelen Thomas is the only pure journalist left in America. The rest have sold their souls to the corporate devil.


GravatarScottie really doesn't answer anything Helen asks him, does he? What a little turd!


GravatarScottie really doesn't answer anything Helen asks him, does he? What a little turd!


GravatarScottie doesn't have a job, he is a target, to deflect and keep anyone from getting a scratch. His brother is involved in the admalistration, so the loyalty thing will keep him working and secure until he fucks up and lets the truth slip out once. These people cover for each other as a way of life. These people are the ones that put into actual play the nightmares that directors put on film. They are not quite human, as far as I'm concerned, but up until this point, I thought it was fine if they lived and left us alone. But they've already started killing us in pretty big numbers, if you feel, as I do, that us means the Brotherhood of Man. There have been no answers. Why was Saddam targeted, really? Why,now that they've "taken him out", are they still occupying that place? All one has to do is ask.


GravatarScottie doesn't have a job, he is a target, to deflect and keep anyone from getting a scratch. His brother is involved in the admalistration, so the loyalty thing will keep him working and secure until he fucks up and lets the truth slip out once. These people cover for each other as a way of life. These people are the ones that put into actual play the nightmares that directors put on film. They are not quite human, as far as I'm concerned, but up until this point, I thought it was fine if they lived and left us alone. But they've already started killing us in pretty big numbers, if you feel, as I do, that us means the Brotherhood of Man. There have been no answers. Why was Saddam targeted, really? Why,now that they've "taken him out", are they still occupying that place? All one has to do is ask.


GravatarI don't know how many of you release how hard it is for someone to actually BE a spokesperson. I think that Scotty doesn't have the "I really don't care what they think" attitude that Ari had. You see him seem uncomfortable constantly giving the talking points over and over again. He's better now, but in the beginning he still seemed to feel bad for giving non-answers.

The Bush WH Press secretary has to have it beat into their head that "Just because the press asks a question it does NOT mean you have to answer it."

I think he also has learned that there are NO consequences for not answering a question. The only time there are consequences are when you show disloyalty. In this case disloyalty would be ANSWERING a question with a real answer instead of tricksy stuff he does.

I've been trying to get someone who is a journalist on our side in one of those press conferences. An honest to goodness liberal journalist. Sy Hersh? And someone else like Joe Conason. So when the president enforces his one question, no follow-ups rule, Joe can follow up on the non-answer that Sy got.

Regarding self censorship, what you might not know is that the White House Correspondents Association picks who can go to these Presidential press conferences. (Can't just have any Amy, Randy or Mick come in and ask embarrassing questions.) So if you aren't part of the pack (even if the pack is dysfunctional and needs new boldness) you are not even given a shot. Why would they? If they let in someone who didn't tiptoe around King George then it would show how cowed and lame they really are.

I think that Sam Seder of Air America would be an interesting choice. He likes bloggers and knows how they can cut though the crap on an issue.
Give him a wireless laptop, a cell phone and access to Atrios, Holden and KOS and he could shake some shit up.

And if left wingers say, "but he's not a 'real journalist'! We can say, "neither is Fox and they doesn't stop them from going to the President's press conference."
or BTW, did you get that rant off of Drudge or did you hear it from your good journalist buddy Rush?


GravatarI don't know how many of you release how hard it is for someone to actually BE a spokesperson. I think that Scotty doesn't have the "I really don't care what they think" attitude that Ari had. You see him seem uncomfortable constantly giving the talking points over and over again. He's better now, but in the beginning he still seemed to feel bad for giving non-answers.

The Bush WH Press secretary has to have it beat into their head that "Just because the press asks a question it does NOT mean you have to answer it."

I think he also has learned that there are NO consequences for not answering a question. The only time there are consequences are when you show disloyalty. In this case disloyalty would be ANSWERING a question with a real answer instead of tricksy stuff he does.

I've been trying to get someone who is a journalist on our side in one of those press conferences. An honest to goodness liberal journalist. Sy Hersh? And someone else like Joe Conason. So when the president enforces his one question, no follow-ups rule, Joe can follow up on the non-answer that Sy got.

Regarding self censorship, what you might not know is that the White House Correspondents Association picks who can go to these Presidential press conferences. (Can't just have any Amy, Randy or Mick come in and ask embarrassing questions.) So if you aren't part of the pack (even if the pack is dysfunctional and needs new boldness) you are not even given a shot. Why would they? If they let in someone who didn't tiptoe around King George then it would show how cowed and lame they really are.

I think that Sam Seder of Air America would be an interesting choice. He likes bloggers and knows how they can cut though the crap on an issue.
Give him a wireless laptop, a cell phone and access to Atrios, Holden and KOS and he could shake some shit up.

And if left wingers say, "but he's not a 'real journalist'! We can say, "neither is Fox and they doesn't stop them from going to the President's press conference."
or BTW, did you get that rant off of Drudge or did you hear it from your good journalist buddy Rush?


GravatarThis must be the punishment the press corps so richly deserve.

Too bad it happens to Helen so often, though. She appears to be the only reporter with any balls in the room.


GravatarThis must be the punishment the press corps so richly deserve.

Too bad it happens to Helen so often, though. She appears to be the only reporter with any balls in the room.


GravatarOr, rather, 'in the room with any balls.'


GravatarOr, rather, 'in the room with any balls.'


GravatarBalls... she's got 'em. I think she was interviewed by Air America last summer and said that, in her opinion, Ari Fleischer was the luckiest man in America.
By that standard (use your imagination) Scottie boy has got to be a close second.

btw, anyone... what are the bios on these two rubes, anyway? I can't imagine that they ever wrote or reported legitimately anywhere.
Not that there's anything wrong with that in bushworld.


GravatarBalls... she's got 'em. I think she was interviewed by Air America last summer and said that, in her opinion, Ari Fleischer was the luckiest man in America.
By that standard (use your imagination) Scottie boy has got to be a close second.

btw, anyone... what are the bios on these two rubes, anyway? I can't imagine that they ever wrote or reported legitimately anywhere.
Not that there's anything wrong with that in bushworld.


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