I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
say it ain't so!
say it ain't so!
Shoot, not Frist....
Shoot, not Frist....
You mean, imagine a press that is actually free and independent and does its job?
Imagine a press that follows in the tradition of H.L. Mencken, and doesn't just pay lip service to the ghost of Edward R. Murrow?
Sorry. I don't have that much imagination left.
You mean, imagine a press that is actually free and independent and does its job?
Imagine a press that follows in the tradition of H.L. Mencken, and doesn't just pay lip service to the ghost of Edward R. Murrow?
Sorry. I don't have that much imagination left.
Hey, lookee here, here's a pic on the White House website of Bernie and George playing footsie.
Hey, lookee here, here's a pic on the White House website of Bernie and George playing footsie.
RMJ, think overseas... I hear there are some that are at least trying...
RMJ, think overseas... I hear there are some that are at least trying...
But but but...
ModDo isn't black. Jayson Blair was black. That's the difference.
$100.00 says they never run a correction, either.
But but but...
ModDo isn't black. Jayson Blair was black. That's the difference.
$100.00 says they never run a correction, either.
Old Hat
I am not sure, but it looks like Kerik is lifting Bush's wallet.
Old Hat
I am not sure, but it looks like Kerik is lifting Bush's wallet.
RMJ, think overseas... I hear there are some that are at least trying...
Access to the Internet and BBC World Service on the radio are sometimes the only things that keep me sane.
Sometimes I remember Bush's run in with the British reporter in Ireland. I like to imagine what a U.S. press corps of similar attitude could do to American politics.
It's a lovely dream.....
RMJ, think overseas... I hear there are some that are at least trying...
Access to the Internet and BBC World Service on the radio are sometimes the only things that keep me sane.
Sometimes I remember Bush's run in with the British reporter in Ireland. I like to imagine what a U.S. press corps of similar attitude could do to American politics.
It's a lovely dream.....
Very good article there. It is amazing that Dowd stands there and sticks pins in a kerry voodoo doll over made up quotes while the entire time Bush-co is producing a plethura of acutal material that is all too true.
Not This Time George!
Very good article there. It is amazing that Dowd stands there and sticks pins in a kerry voodoo doll over made up quotes while the entire time Bush-co is producing a plethura of acutal material that is all too true.
Not This Time George!
So they lie about what Kerry says and then make fun of the fake remarks. They ignore Shrub's gaffes and lies. What else is new?
So they lie about what Kerry says and then make fun of the fake remarks. They ignore Shrub's gaffes and lies. What else is new?
Love Story.
Love Story.
When are we going to learn to ignore remarks made Maureen O' Dowd?
When are we going to learn to ignore remarks made Maureen O' Dowd?
RMJ, the truly scary thing is that soon even the memory of life in such a society will be gone. They really do want to destroy everything.
RMJ, the truly scary thing is that soon even the memory of life in such a society will be gone. They really do want to destroy everything.
Considering the ridiculous things they hit Kerry with, you can only come to one conclusion. Kerry was a relatively clean politician. Surely any skeletons would have come out by now.
Kerry can get my vote in 2008 if he uses his Senate seat to try to block some of the extreme right agenda Bush is going to be pushing, if he's a loud, forcefull voice for the opposition.
Otherwise, I'd rather see somebody else get a shot.
But still, the more I think about Kerry (in spite of some of his obvious dirty campaigning against Dean) the more I think he was a fundamentally decent politician who got slimed. And it makes me angry (especially when dirtbags like Kerik and Rudy have gotten rich off 9/11).
Considering the ridiculous things they hit Kerry with, you can only come to one conclusion. Kerry was a relatively clean politician. Surely any skeletons would have come out by now.
Kerry can get my vote in 2008 if he uses his Senate seat to try to block some of the extreme right agenda Bush is going to be pushing, if he's a loud, forcefull voice for the opposition.
Otherwise, I'd rather see somebody else get a shot.
But still, the more I think about Kerry (in spite of some of his obvious dirty campaigning against Dean) the more I think he was a fundamentally decent politician who got slimed. And it makes me angry (especially when dirtbags like Kerik and Rudy have gotten rich off 9/11).
but, 9-11 changed everything
but, 9-11 changed everything
As JMM says, we need to become the party of the opposition. We need to mock mercilessly, point out every flaw and foible(?) and generally make sure that the sheer incompetence and hypocrisy of BushCo is spotlighted and amplified every day.
Mockery and indignation are two valuable tools that the GOP used well in the past decade. It's time we learned how to use them again.
The media *loves* drama. Let's give them some.
Not just during the campaign. The New York Times has a lot to answer for regarding Kerik. Where was it when Kerik was named Police Commissioner and later when he was lionized after 9/11? I wonder if anyone at the Times is asking this question of themselves.
As JMM says, we need to become the party of the opposition. We need to mock mercilessly, point out every flaw and foible(?) and generally make sure that the sheer incompetence and hypocrisy of BushCo is spotlighted and amplified every day.
Mockery and indignation are two valuable tools that the GOP used well in the past decade. It's time we learned how to use them again.
The media *loves* drama. Let's give them some.
Not just during the campaign. The New York Times has a lot to answer for regarding Kerik. Where was it when Kerik was named Police Commissioner and later when he was lionized after 9/11? I wonder if anyone at the Times is asking this question of themselves.
and speaking of 9.11, does anyone else think that they LIHOP since the NYT/WaPo/Tribune/etc recount of FL 2k was getting ready to be released that would have undermined aWol's reign even more?
and speaking of 9.11, does anyone else think that they LIHOP since the NYT/WaPo/Tribune/etc recount of FL 2k was getting ready to be released that would have undermined aWol's reign even more?
It's time we learned how to use them again.
huh? there was no mockery in the last campaign? what planet do you live on?
It's time we learned how to use them again.
huh? there was no mockery in the last campaign? what planet do you live on?
I think he was a fundamentally decent politician who got slimed.
SWR
So, do we look for candidates that can fight back, or rise above the slime. Since the righters always have more slime to throw, my vote is for fight back.
I think he was a fundamentally decent politician who got slimed.
SWR
So, do we look for candidates that can fight back, or rise above the slime. Since the righters always have more slime to throw, my vote is for fight back.
Kerry was a relatively clean politician.
He's positively squeaky compared to the scum in the White House. How many ex-felons did Bush hire in his first term?
Think about it, they found nothing...no affairs, no quid pro quo, no corruption, no insider trader. He was raised well. Kerry is a good man, a real man, unlike this boy in office right now. It's absolutely disgusting that the media let that petulant asshole and his bottomfeeding capos get away with all of their smears.
Kerry was a relatively clean politician.
He's positively squeaky compared to the scum in the White House. How many ex-felons did Bush hire in his first term?
Think about it, they found nothing...no affairs, no quid pro quo, no corruption, no insider trader. He was raised well. Kerry is a good man, a real man, unlike this boy in office right now. It's absolutely disgusting that the media let that petulant asshole and his bottomfeeding capos get away with all of their smears.
So, do we look for candidates that can fight back, or rise above the slime. Since the righters always have more slime to throw, my vote is for fight back.
Who would you suggest? Hillary? Dean? Clark? Who fits the bill of someone who can slime back?
Torricelli 
So, do we look for candidates that can fight back, or rise above the slime. Since the righters always have more slime to throw, my vote is for fight back.
Who would you suggest? Hillary? Dean? Clark? Who fits the bill of someone who can slime back?
Torricelli
MoDo is just another supposed left camp capo wandering around the big east coast power centers. She lets enough line play out to tire the poor Dem fish who has swallowed her poisoned hook (Bushworld) but ultimately gigs him and packs him on ice for her corporate masters.
Good MoDo, wrap your knock-knees in another silly, expensive and too youthful frock...we're laughing with you, sweetie. Promise.
Notice Bernie wasn't asking her misshapen head up to the 911 lovenest, no, no, no.
MoDo is just another supposed left camp capo wandering around the big east coast power centers. She lets enough line play out to tire the poor Dem fish who has swallowed her poisoned hook (Bushworld) but ultimately gigs him and packs him on ice for her corporate masters.
Good MoDo, wrap your knock-knees in another silly, expensive and too youthful frock...we're laughing with you, sweetie. Promise.
Notice Bernie wasn't asking her misshapen head up to the 911 lovenest, no, no, no.
does anyone else think that they LIHOP
No.
does anyone else think that they LIHOP
No.
It's time we learned how to use them again.
huh? there was no mockery in the last campaign? what planet do you live on?
Ujama
There was a lot, I think, but it was mostly for the left's internal consumption. Which isn't bad in itself, but it doesn't necessarily peel voters from Bush or even get swing voters.
It's time we learned how to use them again.
huh? there was no mockery in the last campaign? what planet do you live on?
Ujama
There was a lot, I think, but it was mostly for the left's internal consumption. Which isn't bad in itself, but it doesn't necessarily peel voters from Bush or even get swing voters.
I ignore writers who have pissed me off. It helps me sleep better. I like reading things that make me comfortable, not things that challenge my beliefs. maybe I'll take a nap now.
I ignore writers who have pissed me off. It helps me sleep better. I like reading things that make me comfortable, not things that challenge my beliefs. maybe I'll take a nap now.
Think about it, they found nothing...no affairs, no quid pro quo, no corruption, no insider trader. He was raised well. Kerry is a good man, a real man, unlike this boy in office right now. It's absolutely disgusting that the media let that petulant asshole and his bottomfeeding capos get away with all of their smears.
Exactly. I try not to think about it too much so I don't get too angry.
Kerry was an annoying bore at times but I'm sure he would have earnestly tried to do a decent job of public service in ofice.
And what he did get slimed for (his anti-war activism) as the most courageous thing he did in his life.
I hate this country sometimes. I really do.
Think about it, they found nothing...no affairs, no quid pro quo, no corruption, no insider trader. He was raised well. Kerry is a good man, a real man, unlike this boy in office right now. It's absolutely disgusting that the media let that petulant asshole and his bottomfeeding capos get away with all of their smears.
Exactly. I try not to think about it too much so I don't get too angry.
Kerry was an annoying bore at times but I'm sure he would have earnestly tried to do a decent job of public service in ofice.
And what he did get slimed for (his anti-war activism) as the most courageous thing he did in his life.
I hate this country sometimes. I really do.
i'd just like to take this moment to wish grievous bodily harm upon nedra pickler, adam nagourney, jody wilgoren & kit seeley.
happy holidays.
i'd just like to take this moment to wish grievous bodily harm upon nedra pickler, adam nagourney, jody wilgoren & kit seeley.
happy holidays.
Who would you suggest? Hillary? Dean? Clark?
Anyone of them, although I always wanted to see Clark blow a few holes through the Republican armor.
Who would you suggest? Hillary? Dean? Clark?
Anyone of them, although I always wanted to see Clark blow a few holes through the Republican armor.
So where is Kerry now?
He should be speaking louldly and clearly about the voting fraud in Ohio and the repugs plan to destroy Social Security. But narry a word.
So where is Kerry now?
He should be speaking louldly and clearly about the voting fraud in Ohio and the repugs plan to destroy Social Security. But narry a word.
The Torch?
No, I would suggest Dean would be good, or a Kerry who learned Dean's schick. Someone who could be on the offense psychologically. I think the Democrats play too defensive a game.
The Torch?
No, I would suggest Dean would be good, or a Kerry who learned Dean's schick. Someone who could be on the offense psychologically. I think the Democrats play too defensive a game.
The Torch?
I'm joking. But if you want a dirty politician who knows who to slime opponents, there he is.
The Torch?
I'm joking. But if you want a dirty politician who knows who to slime opponents, there he is.
The Torch?
No, I would suggest Dean would be good, or a Kerry who learned Dean's schick. Someone who could be on the offense psychologically. I think the Democrats play too defensive a game.
The Torch?
No, I would suggest Dean would be good, or a Kerry who learned Dean's schick. Someone who could be on the offense psychologically. I think the Democrats play too defensive a game.
not things that challenge my beliefs.
Like what? Pure, unadulterated lies like Swift Boat Vets and horseshit about what an out-of-touch faggot John Kerry was?
not things that challenge my beliefs.
Like what? Pure, unadulterated lies like Swift Boat Vets and horseshit about what an out-of-touch faggot John Kerry was?
Consider this insanity. But I made a bet today with a co-worker. Bet one is that Bush will be impeached before the end of his second term. Bet two is the instigator will be a Republican.
I noted this morning that Duncan's post on the trashing of Rumsfeld cheered me up a bit. In one respect it was an indication that the machine is still one of politics. The president and his closest people may have a vision, but the bulk of the Republican politicians just want to stay in office. They bend like grass in the wind.
While we are lambasting the press and media, again, I keep seeing bad news make it through. The analysis suffers, but there is little to be pieced apart in situations such as the Rumsfeld takedown by that lonely soldier. Attempts to discredit the soldier pretty much petered out quickly. Meanwhile you can see the effect with cargo aircraft doing the heavy moving now and the land based vehicles being spared the dangerous treks. (not sure all of the details as yet myself).
Kerik is a definite crack in the levy for Bush. It has brought Guiliani under scrutiny and that commentary is making it on the news.
Again, not perfect, but not the absolute lock down on real information. Bush and crew are not agile at deflecting this sort of thing.
Now the question is why did the lone soldier get the message out on the news and the reality of social security is not.
Consider this insanity. But I made a bet today with a co-worker. Bet one is that Bush will be impeached before the end of his second term. Bet two is the instigator will be a Republican.
I noted this morning that Duncan's post on the trashing of Rumsfeld cheered me up a bit. In one respect it was an indication that the machine is still one of politics. The president and his closest people may have a vision, but the bulk of the Republican politicians just want to stay in office. They bend like grass in the wind.
While we are lambasting the press and media, again, I keep seeing bad news make it through. The analysis suffers, but there is little to be pieced apart in situations such as the Rumsfeld takedown by that lonely soldier. Attempts to discredit the soldier pretty much petered out quickly. Meanwhile you can see the effect with cargo aircraft doing the heavy moving now and the land based vehicles being spared the dangerous treks. (not sure all of the details as yet myself).
Kerik is a definite crack in the levy for Bush. It has brought Guiliani under scrutiny and that commentary is making it on the news.
Again, not perfect, but not the absolute lock down on real information. Bush and crew are not agile at deflecting this sort of thing.
Now the question is why did the lone soldier get the message out on the news and the reality of social security is not.
mo dowd: "goddamnit my hairdye is redder than judith regan's!!!!"
mo dowd: "goddamnit my hairdye is redder than judith regan's!!!!"
Kerry can get my vote in 2008 if he uses his Senate seat to try to block some of the extreme right agenda Bush is going to be pushing, if he's a loud, forcefull voice for the opposition.
kerry is a pretty clean politician .. what got him nailed was his inability (or his staffers') to strike back on the skeletons from the vietnam war and iran contra ... ask anyone who was at those swift boat kangaroo protests in DC and they saw a lot of those old cubans pushing tin ... probably connected to the felix rodriguez's of the world no less -- at least kerry's got some balls in the right place - he's done the right thing over and over .. if only he could have been more of an outdoor politician sooner, because it could have worked
Kerry can get my vote in 2008 if he uses his Senate seat to try to block some of the extreme right agenda Bush is going to be pushing, if he's a loud, forcefull voice for the opposition.
kerry is a pretty clean politician .. what got him nailed was his inability (or his staffers') to strike back on the skeletons from the vietnam war and iran contra ... ask anyone who was at those swift boat kangaroo protests in DC and they saw a lot of those old cubans pushing tin ... probably connected to the felix rodriguez's of the world no less -- at least kerry's got some balls in the right place - he's done the right thing over and over .. if only he could have been more of an outdoor politician sooner, because it could have worked
Someone who could be on the offense psychologically.
Hmm...someone like an Army general with liberal values would fit the bill...
Someone who could be on the offense psychologically.
Hmm...someone like an Army general with liberal values would fit the bill...
Definitely we should go on the offensive. Hentoff has an article in the current Village Voice about how the Dems are planning NOT to oppose Gonzalez. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Kerik went down - it's a sign of weakness and an opportunity. The republicans wouldn't hesitate to destroy Gonzalez, we shouldn't either.
Definitely we should go on the offensive. Hentoff has an article in the current Village Voice about how the Dems are planning NOT to oppose Gonzalez. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Kerik went down - it's a sign of weakness and an opportunity. The republicans wouldn't hesitate to destroy Gonzalez, we shouldn't either.
huh? there was no mockery in the last campaign? what planet do you live on?
OK - Give me one example of Kerry or Edwards getting in a solid indignant jab at Junior. Just one.
If they occurred they were rare.
The mockery was at the grass roots, not at the top levels.
Bush uses humor to jab all the time... even when he's wrong. Do you remember; "Do you wanna buy some wood?"
Most people who saw that likely believed Junior did NOT own a lumber company as Kerry had just accused.
The leaders of our party need to scoff publicly... Roll their eyes... Laugh audibly... whenever the opportunity arises.
As I said. The media loves drama.
huh? there was no mockery in the last campaign? what planet do you live on?
OK - Give me one example of Kerry or Edwards getting in a solid indignant jab at Junior. Just one.
If they occurred they were rare.
The mockery was at the grass roots, not at the top levels.
Bush uses humor to jab all the time... even when he's wrong. Do you remember; "Do you wanna buy some wood?"
Most people who saw that likely believed Junior did NOT own a lumber company as Kerry had just accused.
The leaders of our party need to scoff publicly... Roll their eyes... Laugh audibly... whenever the opportunity arises.
As I said. The media loves drama.
Kerik is a definite crack in the levy for Bush. It has brought Guiliani under scrutiny and that commentary is making it on the news.
it's never the issue that gets you into trouble, it's the cover up and DKos hit it real early on the nail ... there was no nanny, so why were they using this as a screen?
what are they really covering up about kerik and who knows the details? rudi will fall on the sword, but let's get the fringe players to speak on the matter
SWR,
I figured the Torch was ironic. But some fire is needed. We aren't going to make the hard core of the Republicans like us, so why not try to get a left-center candidate with some fire?
My worry about Clark is that he could be portrayed as someone who has not ever won an election at the state level, knows nothing about governance, etc. He'd probably be as good a president as we might hope for, given his intelligence, but electibility? I'm not sure.
Kerik is a definite crack in the levy for Bush. It has brought Guiliani under scrutiny and that commentary is making it on the news.
it's never the issue that gets you into trouble, it's the cover up and DKos hit it real early on the nail ... there was no nanny, so why were they using this as a screen?
what are they really covering up about kerik and who knows the details? rudi will fall on the sword, but let's get the fringe players to speak on the matter
SWR,
I figured the Torch was ironic. But some fire is needed. We aren't going to make the hard core of the Republicans like us, so why not try to get a left-center candidate with some fire?
My worry about Clark is that he could be portrayed as someone who has not ever won an election at the state level, knows nothing about governance, etc. He'd probably be as good a president as we might hope for, given his intelligence, but electibility? I'm not sure.
does anyone else think that they LIHOP
I dunno. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't - I kinda waffle back and forth about it...
does anyone else think that they LIHOP
I dunno. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't - I kinda waffle back and forth about it...
Meanwhile you can see the effect with cargo aircraft doing the heavy moving now and the land based vehicles being spared the dangerous treks.
Funny how all of the media outlets noted that the security situation in Iraq is so fucking awesome, Rumsfeld had to go to Kuwait.
Meanwhile you can see the effect with cargo aircraft doing the heavy moving now and the land based vehicles being spared the dangerous treks.
Funny how all of the media outlets noted that the security situation in Iraq is so fucking awesome, Rumsfeld had to go to Kuwait.
Hmm...someone like an Army general with liberal values would fit the bill...
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I honestly think Clark's a bit too smart to appeal to the inner American moron. The guy speaks in complete sentences. He analyses questions instead of dodging them. He speaks in terms of "if this then" and "it depends" and not "this is very simple".
Hmm...someone like an Army general with liberal values would fit the bill...
Old Hat | Email | Homepage | 12.16.04 - 11:36 pm | #
I honestly think Clark's a bit too smart to appeal to the inner American moron. The guy speaks in complete sentences. He analyses questions instead of dodging them. He speaks in terms of "if this then" and "it depends" and not "this is very simple".
Also, there's supposedly some real bad blood between Clark and Holbrooke and Holbrooke's a real player in the Democratic party. You'd have to chose one or the other.
Also, there's supposedly some real bad blood between Clark and Holbrooke and Holbrooke's a real player in the Democratic party. You'd have to chose one or the other.
put dean and clarke in a room with the new DNC chair and have them do the humiliation on the pundit shows -- then bring out old Joe Biden and Rendell to beat the drums from inside ... then let Reid cut the deals with other moderates .. break apart the GOP by going after its weakest links - there are huge cracks in the armor to exploit if somebody wants to step into the breech
put dean and clarke in a room with the new DNC chair and have them do the humiliation on the pundit shows -- then bring out old Joe Biden and Rendell to beat the drums from inside ... then let Reid cut the deals with other moderates .. break apart the GOP by going after its weakest links - there are huge cracks in the armor to exploit if somebody wants to step into the breech
I honestly think Clark's a bit too smart to appeal to the inner American moron.
yes, there is an aloofness about clarke, but he can connect with young men ready to sacrifice themselves - why not a farmer in nebraska or small business owner in florida?
I honestly think Clark's a bit too smart to appeal to the inner American moron.
yes, there is an aloofness about clarke, but he can connect with young men ready to sacrifice themselves - why not a farmer in nebraska or small business owner in florida?
i believe LIHOP;
i can believe that they didnt know it would be of that magnitude...
...but LIHOP all the same.
i believe LIHOP;
i can believe that they didnt know it would be of that magnitude...
...but LIHOP all the same.
yes, there is an aloofness about clarke, but he can connect with young men ready to sacrifice themselves - why not a farmer in nebraska or small business owner in florida?
I'm sure he could face to face but he'd have to do it via TV.
I hate to say it, but I think that if Hillary were a man, she'd be the easy front runner right now. I don't know if this says more about Hillary or the lack of other candidates.
yes, there is an aloofness about clarke, but he can connect with young men ready to sacrifice themselves - why not a farmer in nebraska or small business owner in florida?
I'm sure he could face to face but he'd have to do it via TV.
I hate to say it, but I think that if Hillary were a man, she'd be the easy front runner right now. I don't know if this says more about Hillary or the lack of other candidates.
I really would have liked to see Clark tear Bush a new one, but the irony is that the Republican strategy against him would have almost certainly included the argument that he was irresponsible and reckless and nearly started WW3.
Actually, it might have been really entertaining to watch them try...
I really would have liked to see Clark tear Bush a new one, but the irony is that the Republican strategy against him would have almost certainly included the argument that he was irresponsible and reckless and nearly started WW3.
Actually, it might have been really entertaining to watch them try...
there are huge cracks in the armor to exploit if somebody wants to step into the breech
I see three wings of the Party, the nearly extinct Rockefellers (Chafee, Snowe, et al.), the Sun Belters (McCain, Arnold, et al.) and the Fundies (everyone else).
A smart group of Democrats working behind the scenes could destroy the Republican majority in a few years by exploiting these cleavages and gaining a lock on the Hispanic vote in the process.
there are huge cracks in the armor to exploit if somebody wants to step into the breech
I see three wings of the Party, the nearly extinct Rockefellers (Chafee, Snowe, et al.), the Sun Belters (McCain, Arnold, et al.) and the Fundies (everyone else).
A smart group of Democrats working behind the scenes could destroy the Republican majority in a few years by exploiting these cleavages and gaining a lock on the Hispanic vote in the process.
I honestly think Clark's a bit too smart to appeal to the inner American moron.
Clark's military background trumps his intelligence and poise. (Who ever thought poise would be a liability?)
I'd vote for Clark or Dean before Kerry. (In fact, I did...)
I honestly think Clark's a bit too smart to appeal to the inner American moron.
Clark's military background trumps his intelligence and poise. (Who ever thought poise would be a liability?)
I'd vote for Clark or Dean before Kerry. (In fact, I did...)
I tend to think that Clark is too open to the charge that he is an amateur. He should run for the Senate or the House first. He'd be an asset there and build credentials.
Don't make too much of Clark's being a liberal general. In the American mind, liberal and general do not mix. He will get smeared for being a liberal and someone will start finding things about his military career that get spun awfully.
I tend to think that Clark is too open to the charge that he is an amateur. He should run for the Senate or the House first. He'd be an asset there and build credentials.
Don't make too much of Clark's being a liberal general. In the American mind, liberal and general do not mix. He will get smeared for being a liberal and someone will start finding things about his military career that get spun awfully.
On the LIHOP subject: I think it's very possible, but there is no hard evidence (and probably never will be). It doesn't matter anyway. The damage to the country is the same, and it doesn't make the Bu$hies any less evil if they didn't LIHOP.
On the LIHOP subject: I think it's very possible, but there is no hard evidence (and probably never will be). It doesn't matter anyway. The damage to the country is the same, and it doesn't make the Bu$hies any less evil if they didn't LIHOP.
A smart group of Democrats working behind the scenes could destroy the Republican majority in a few years by exploiting these cleavages and gaining a lock on the Hispanic vote in the process.
Stupid, really stupid question.
Why isn't Texas a blue state? It's got 4 giant cities, a real economy, and a huge hispanic population.
If you're just looking at the numbers, it seems closer to New York or California then it does to Oklahoma or Mississippi.
Why is it so reliably wingnutty?
A smart group of Democrats working behind the scenes could destroy the Republican majority in a few years by exploiting these cleavages and gaining a lock on the Hispanic vote in the process.
Stupid, really stupid question.
Why isn't Texas a blue state? It's got 4 giant cities, a real economy, and a huge hispanic population.
If you're just looking at the numbers, it seems closer to New York or California then it does to Oklahoma or Mississippi.
Why is it so reliably wingnutty?
Why is [Texas] so reliably wingnutty?
'Cause it's the South.
Why is [Texas] so reliably wingnutty?
'Cause it's the South.
Why isn't Texas a blue state? It's got 4 giant cities, a real economy, and a huge hispanic population.
It was for time immemorial and should be today by all rights.
I didn't really understand why myself until I read this book. Highly recommended.
Why isn't Texas a blue state? It's got 4 giant cities, a real economy, and a huge hispanic population.
It was for time immemorial and should be today by all rights.
I didn't really understand why myself until I read this book. Highly recommended.
SWR
That is a good question. However, looking at the district by district in San Antonio, you can see the red versus blue not so much in ethnicity, but in income. It seems when the income level rises here, the trend heads sharply red.
The overall layout on the map was absolutely no surprise. Lower income, bluer.
SWR
That is a good question. However, looking at the district by district in San Antonio, you can see the red versus blue not so much in ethnicity, but in income. It seems when the income level rises here, the trend heads sharply red.
The overall layout on the map was absolutely no surprise. Lower income, bluer.
Why isn't Texas a blue state? It's got 4 giant cities, a real economy, and a huge hispanic population.
If you're just looking at the numbers, it seems closer to New York or California then it does to Oklahoma or Mississippi.
Why is it so reliably wingnutty?
SWR
not being a veteran of texas politics - just an outside observer - it all appears to break at the local level where the jigsaw congressional boundaries seem to reinforce a rethug majority in most every instance
Why isn't Texas a blue state? It's got 4 giant cities, a real economy, and a huge hispanic population.
If you're just looking at the numbers, it seems closer to New York or California then it does to Oklahoma or Mississippi.
Why is it so reliably wingnutty?
SWR
not being a veteran of texas politics - just an outside observer - it all appears to break at the local level where the jigsaw congressional boundaries seem to reinforce a rethug majority in most every instance
not being a veteran of texas politics - just an outside observer - it all appears to break at the local level where the jigsaw congressional boundaries seem to reinforce a rethug majority in most every instance
New Jersey's as gerrymandered as Texas. It's got more Republican congress people than Democratic and yet it went for Kerry and Gore. People just vote the incumbent locally and "the man" for President.
So I don't think Gerrymandering can explain it.
Somebody (a Texas native) once told me that if you really want to understand Texas, ask only one question.
Why is Dallas the only major city in America without a real university?
not being a veteran of texas politics - just an outside observer - it all appears to break at the local level where the jigsaw congressional boundaries seem to reinforce a rethug majority in most every instance
New Jersey's as gerrymandered as Texas. It's got more Republican congress people than Democratic and yet it went for Kerry and Gore. People just vote the incumbent locally and "the man" for President.
So I don't think Gerrymandering can explain it.
Somebody (a Texas native) once told me that if you really want to understand Texas, ask only one question.
Why is Dallas the only major city in America without a real university?
not being a veteran of texas politics - just an outside observer - it all appears to break at the local level where the jigsaw congressional boundaries seem to reinforce a rethug majority in most every instance
That and the Kansas factor mentioned in the recommended book above probably both account for the right-leaning tendancies of Texas, my snippy comment above aside.
Delay and his cronies have ensured that Texas will remain red for a long time.
not being a veteran of texas politics - just an outside observer - it all appears to break at the local level where the jigsaw congressional boundaries seem to reinforce a rethug majority in most every instance
That and the Kansas factor mentioned in the recommended book above probably both account for the right-leaning tendancies of Texas, my snippy comment above aside.
Delay and his cronies have ensured that Texas will remain red for a long time.
could destroy the Republican majority in a few years by exploiting these cleavages
Exploiting cleavage? Where do I sign up?
could destroy the Republican majority in a few years by exploiting these cleavages
Exploiting cleavage? Where do I sign up?
Exploiting cleavage? Where do I sign up?
Maybe we can enlist Ahnold for the cause?
Exploiting cleavage? Where do I sign up?
Maybe we can enlist Ahnold for the cause?
Maybe we can enlist Ahnold for the cause?
Dude, don't do *that* - there wouldn't be any left for me!
Maybe we can enlist Ahnold for the cause?
Dude, don't do *that* - there wouldn't be any left for me!
Dude, don't do *that* - there wouldn't be any left for me!
Eli | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 12:07 am | #
And could you imagine Arnold and Kerik in the same room?
Too much Republican moral values for me.
Dude, don't do *that* - there wouldn't be any left for me!
Eli | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 12:07 am | #
And could you imagine Arnold and Kerik in the same room?
Too much Republican moral values for me.
And could you imagine Arnold and Kerik in the same room?
I'm picturing a lot of women too sore to sit down...
And could you imagine Arnold and Kerik in the same room?
I'm picturing a lot of women too sore to sit down...
posting from another thread. because i think this is the issue. could be wrong. don't think so.
i understand konopelli. and sympathize.
he is on a rant because he is finally recognizing that there is no organized, politically-entitled opposition party to fascism.
in this country, you can vote for fascists labelled as republicans. or fascists labelled as democrats.
but what you cannot do is vote for any organized political party that is anti-fascist.
recognizing this reality should make more of you than konopelli go bonkers.
anti-fascism, anti-statism, anti-totalitarianism - call it what you will - has no political stature in the USA.
during my lifetime, i have learned concretely how the nazis cowed the german populace in the 1930's.
some have tried to assert that it cannot happen here. hah! happened here. decades ago. and it was the camelot democrat that heralded the imposition of fascism...his call to surrender to the state is well known...
ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
some have cared to view this as an ennobling call, i have always viewed it as a call similar to those vocalized by ah.
can we recreate the white rose society? unlikely. can we monkeywrench the modern totalitarian state? unlikely.
so, how is it going to go down? much like orwell envisioned it. think of stalinist russia with a few more consumer amenities[for the immediate future only].
we have gone beyond the point of no return, you know. no matter how much you might wish for a reversal of the slide down the razor blade of the end of a democratic republic, you cannot make it happen. there are not enough anti-fascists. the laws inhibiting anti-fascist political parties are too well entrenched. and tony scalia and clarence thomas are the law.
ayn rand wrote about this problem of fascism in amerika decades ago. the book was entitled atlas shrugged. the thesis was that those that vivified the country went on strike in opposition to the totalitarians.
any of you got the balls to run a general strike?
or to do what rand's vivifiers did, abandon the country and let it devolve faster into the morass that it is destined to become.
posting from another thread. because i think this is the issue. could be wrong. don't think so.
i understand konopelli. and sympathize.
he is on a rant because he is finally recognizing that there is no organized, politically-entitled opposition party to fascism.
in this country, you can vote for fascists labelled as republicans. or fascists labelled as democrats.
but what you cannot do is vote for any organized political party that is anti-fascist.
recognizing this reality should make more of you than konopelli go bonkers.
anti-fascism, anti-statism, anti-totalitarianism - call it what you will - has no political stature in the USA.
during my lifetime, i have learned concretely how the nazis cowed the german populace in the 1930's.
some have tried to assert that it cannot happen here. hah! happened here. decades ago. and it was the camelot democrat that heralded the imposition of fascism...his call to surrender to the state is well known...
ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.
some have cared to view this as an ennobling call, i have always viewed it as a call similar to those vocalized by ah.
can we recreate the white rose society? unlikely. can we monkeywrench the modern totalitarian state? unlikely.
so, how is it going to go down? much like orwell envisioned it. think of stalinist russia with a few more consumer amenities[for the immediate future only].
we have gone beyond the point of no return, you know. no matter how much you might wish for a reversal of the slide down the razor blade of the end of a democratic republic, you cannot make it happen. there are not enough anti-fascists. the laws inhibiting anti-fascist political parties are too well entrenched. and tony scalia and clarence thomas are the law.
ayn rand wrote about this problem of fascism in amerika decades ago. the book was entitled atlas shrugged. the thesis was that those that vivified the country went on strike in opposition to the totalitarians.
any of you got the balls to run a general strike?
or to do what rand's vivifiers did, abandon the country and let it devolve faster into the morass that it is destined to become.
better to buy from barnes&nobles.com than amazon. buy blue. texas is full of fundie wingnuts, i can tell you first hand.
better to buy from barnes&nobles.com than amazon. buy blue. texas is full of fundie wingnuts, i can tell you first hand.
I thought Amazon was in Seattle. That's pretty blue.
I thought Amazon was in Seattle. That's pretty blue.
Why is Dallas the only major city in America without a real university?
Um... I don't know what you call a real university, but Dallas does have my mother's alma mater, Southern Methodist University. It has about 6K students, but it is a real university.
There's also the University of Dallas, a Catholic university that has about 1200.
And then there's the University of Texas at Dallas, with about 14K students. It became a four year college about 15 years ago, but it's still a university, too.
Why is Dallas the only major city in America without a real university?
Um... I don't know what you call a real university, but Dallas does have my mother's alma mater, Southern Methodist University. It has about 6K students, but it is a real university.
There's also the University of Dallas, a Catholic university that has about 1200.
And then there's the University of Texas at Dallas, with about 14K students. It became a four year college about 15 years ago, but it's still a university, too.
Southern Methodist University. It has about 6K students, but it is a real university.
There's also the University of Dallas, a Catholic university that has about 1200.
New York: Columbia
Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania
Chicago: University of Chicago
LA: UCLA
Boston: Harvard
Seattle: University of Washington
San Francisco: Standford and Berkeley
Dallas: SMU
See my drift?
Southern Methodist University. It has about 6K students, but it is a real university.
There's also the University of Dallas, a Catholic university that has about 1200.
New York: Columbia
Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania
Chicago: University of Chicago
LA: UCLA
Boston: Harvard
Seattle: University of Washington
San Francisco: Standford and Berkeley
Dallas: SMU
See my drift?
And what's wrong with SMU? It's an excellent university. Being Methodist doesn't make it lesser.
And UCLA or University of Washington? Those are better schools than SMU? Come on! What's the difference between any of those and a UT? Not a dang thing, if you must know.
And what's wrong with SMU? It's an excellent university. Being Methodist doesn't make it lesser.
And UCLA or University of Washington? Those are better schools than SMU? Come on! What's the difference between any of those and a UT? Not a dang thing, if you must know.
swr
you are right (no apostrophe) about the decency and honesty of Kerry. so let's see him take an honest, clear, and programmatic oppositional stance towards the GWB II policy of All Infanticide, All The Time: Iraq policies. and oh yeah, the environment, women's uterii, and Giant Waves. then and only then...
swr
you are right (no apostrophe) about the decency and honesty of Kerry. so let's see him take an honest, clear, and programmatic oppositional stance towards the GWB II policy of All Infanticide, All The Time: Iraq policies. and oh yeah, the environment, women's uterii, and Giant Waves. then and only then...
Never heard Kerry or anyone on his payroll complain about it. If he didn't care, why should I?
Never heard Kerry or anyone on his payroll complain about it. If he didn't care, why should I?
Besides, by that standard, San Antonio is a backwater, too, even though we have four universities here. Of course, they're not Hah-vahd, but Incarnate Word, St. Mary's, Our Lady of the Lake and UTSA are all fine schools. College is what you make of it. Not what other people think where you attended makes you.
Besides, by that standard, San Antonio is a backwater, too, even though we have four universities here. Of course, they're not Hah-vahd, but Incarnate Word, St. Mary's, Our Lady of the Lake and UTSA are all fine schools. College is what you make of it. Not what other people think where you attended makes you.
And UCLA or University of Washington? Those are better schools than SMU?
Not necessarily better but they are genuine research universities and SMU's more of a rich man's undergrad school.
Anyway, I don't want to insult Texas, but was just trying to make a point about the fact that Dallas is perhaps an urban sprawl more like suburbia than a city like New York.
The one real university in Texas is in Austin, which is, guess what, the only liberal city in Texas.
And UCLA or University of Washington? Those are better schools than SMU?
Not necessarily better but they are genuine research universities and SMU's more of a rich man's undergrad school.
Anyway, I don't want to insult Texas, but was just trying to make a point about the fact that Dallas is perhaps an urban sprawl more like suburbia than a city like New York.
The one real university in Texas is in Austin, which is, guess what, the only liberal city in Texas.
SMU is the USC of Texas.
and we all know what USC stands for,
university for spoiled children.
SMU is a party school. and a greek school.
never forget it.
the only part of SMU that might be intellectually challenging would be the perkins school of theology.
but methodists as deep theological thinkers - not hardly.
so, if you fail to get my point, think of it this way...
smu is to intellectual pursuits as the military is to music[or intelligence].
SMU is the USC of Texas.
and we all know what USC stands for,
university for spoiled children.
SMU is a party school. and a greek school.
never forget it.
the only part of SMU that might be intellectually challenging would be the perkins school of theology.
but methodists as deep theological thinkers - not hardly.
so, if you fail to get my point, think of it this way...
smu is to intellectual pursuits as the military is to music[or intelligence].
The real problem with Texas colleges is that none of them take football seriously enough.
The real problem with Texas colleges is that none of them take football seriously enough.
and speaking of 9.11, does anyone else think that they LIHOP since the NYT/WaPo/Tribune/etc recount of FL 2k was getting ready to be released that would have undermined aWol's reign even more?
preznit giv me turkee | Email | Homepage | 12.16.04 - 11:28 pm | #
Oh man, thanks for the major laugh. You should do stand up.
The only people who would try that kind of LIHOP are the Democrats (Let Incompetence Happen in Our Party).
Oh, man, I'm still laughing.
and speaking of 9.11, does anyone else think that they LIHOP since the NYT/WaPo/Tribune/etc recount of FL 2k was getting ready to be released that would have undermined aWol's reign even more?
preznit giv me turkee | Email | Homepage | 12.16.04 - 11:28 pm | #
Oh man, thanks for the major laugh. You should do stand up.
The only people who would try that kind of LIHOP are the Democrats (Let Incompetence Happen in Our Party).
Oh, man, I'm still laughing.
But it is insulting to imply that we don't have "real" universities here based on a rather narrow criteria.
But if that's the gauge...
UT Dallas is a research university--and has been even longer than it was a four-year U.
UTSA has a research hospital here in San Antonio, a city I far prefer to Austin, which has become hopelessly yuppified. By my standards, anyway.
A&M also does extensive research, in a variety of fields. Would I send my kid there? I'd be reluctant to do it, but I would. Their ag and veterinary schools are top-notch, and where a LOT of interesting work has been done in both fields.
SMU's Law school is actually rather good. The undergrad program isn't just for the rich. My grandparents were dirt poor, and my mother went there.
But it is insulting to imply that we don't have "real" universities here based on a rather narrow criteria.
But if that's the gauge...
UT Dallas is a research university--and has been even longer than it was a four-year U.
UTSA has a research hospital here in San Antonio, a city I far prefer to Austin, which has become hopelessly yuppified. By my standards, anyway.
A&M also does extensive research, in a variety of fields. Would I send my kid there? I'd be reluctant to do it, but I would. Their ag and veterinary schools are top-notch, and where a LOT of interesting work has been done in both fields.
SMU's Law school is actually rather good. The undergrad program isn't just for the rich. My grandparents were dirt poor, and my mother went there.
any of you got the balls to run a general strike?
Newsflash: Once Bush adds a few more choices to the Supremes, the "right" to strike will be struck down.
You people have no business trying to disrupt society with your refusal to work. If you work for me and you go on strike, I will fire your ass and hire someone who cares about making a buck.
any of you got the balls to run a general strike?
Newsflash: Once Bush adds a few more choices to the Supremes, the "right" to strike will be struck down.
You people have no business trying to disrupt society with your refusal to work. If you work for me and you go on strike, I will fire your ass and hire someone who cares about making a buck.
I thought Amazon was in Seattle. That's pretty blue
Bzzzzzt. I'm sorry, wrong answer. Seattle is in Washington, which now has a Republican governor. Better luck in four years.
I thought Amazon was in Seattle. That's pretty blue
Bzzzzzt. I'm sorry, wrong answer. Seattle is in Washington, which now has a Republican governor. Better luck in four years.
Albert:
I'll let you tell my mother her education at SMU wasn't worthwhile, that it wasn't challenging. It's also not a rich person's school. A lot do go there, but saying that is like saying Harvard is nothing more than a rich kid's school. Lots of rich kids go there, right? I mean BUSH did.
My grandparents were dirt poor, and my mother got into SMU on an academic scholarship. In the 50s.
When I lived in Dallas, I knew lots of ordinary people who went to SMU at night. It's a college, like any other. It has its good points and bad points.
Albert:
I'll let you tell my mother her education at SMU wasn't worthwhile, that it wasn't challenging. It's also not a rich person's school. A lot do go there, but saying that is like saying Harvard is nothing more than a rich kid's school. Lots of rich kids go there, right? I mean BUSH did.
My grandparents were dirt poor, and my mother got into SMU on an academic scholarship. In the 50s.
When I lived in Dallas, I knew lots of ordinary people who went to SMU at night. It's a college, like any other. It has its good points and bad points.
If you work for me and you go on strike, I will fire your ass and hire someone who cares about making a buck.
Of course, I'd guess you're not doing much hiring down in Mommy's basement...
If you work for me and you go on strike, I will fire your ass and hire someone who cares about making a buck.
Of course, I'd guess you're not doing much hiring down in Mommy's basement...
My grandparents were dirt poor, and my mother got into SMU on an academic scholarship. In the 50s.
But you misunderstood my point. Amherst or Swarthmore are places where you can get a good education, but neither is a major university that will affect the culture of a surrounding city.
I wasn't saying SMU was a bad school, just that it's not big enough or important enough to turn a Dallas into a New York or a Boston.
My grandparents were dirt poor, and my mother got into SMU on an academic scholarship. In the 50s.
But you misunderstood my point. Amherst or Swarthmore are places where you can get a good education, but neither is a major university that will affect the culture of a surrounding city.
I wasn't saying SMU was a bad school, just that it's not big enough or important enough to turn a Dallas into a New York or a Boston.
Eighty-something comments with no question?:
Who among us hasn't cheated on his wife/mistress, overseen crooked deals, borrowed an apartment from a mob-connected friend guilty of manslaughter for carnal experience, cheated the taxpayers, and shilled for the most inept president in history, all while not having a nanny?
Eighty-something comments with no question?:
Who among us hasn't cheated on his wife/mistress, overseen crooked deals, borrowed an apartment from a mob-connected friend guilty of manslaughter for carnal experience, cheated the taxpayers, and shilled for the most inept president in history, all while not having a nanny?
Atrios -
First: You have the right guy.
Second: You realize, of course, that Allen Boyd has no published, easily accessible position on SS. There's not a button on his web site that will lead you there.
I hate that, especially, about these morons. My own congressman, red republican, just dodges this one no matter what you do he will not take a position. I'm trying a new tack with him starting this weekend.
Nail him. That has to happen.
And then, I'm writing endless, over and over again until published Letters to the Editor on the issue. I'm planning on emphasizing responsibility to older family members left behind.
Atrios -
First: You have the right guy.
Second: You realize, of course, that Allen Boyd has no published, easily accessible position on SS. There's not a button on his web site that will lead you there.
I hate that, especially, about these morons. My own congressman, red republican, just dodges this one no matter what you do he will not take a position. I'm trying a new tack with him starting this weekend.
Nail him. That has to happen.
And then, I'm writing endless, over and over again until published Letters to the Editor on the issue. I'm planning on emphasizing responsibility to older family members left behind.
Of course, I'd guess you're not doing much hiring down in Mommy's basement...
dave | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 1:22 am | #
Brilliant! Man, I wish I was that witty.
"Dave", I own my own business and employ twelve people. I would never hire anyone like you because:
A. You are probably a slacker.
B. You are painfully unoriginal.
C. You're a liberal sponge, a worker who has the attitude "I'll work one hour, take a two hour break, work for ten minutes, take a four hour lunch break, go back and punch out your time card.
No thanks, you're a waste of skin. Join the military, at least learn some discipline.
Of course, I'd guess you're not doing much hiring down in Mommy's basement...
dave | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 1:22 am | #
Brilliant! Man, I wish I was that witty.
"Dave", I own my own business and employ twelve people. I would never hire anyone like you because:
A. You are probably a slacker.
B. You are painfully unoriginal.
C. You're a liberal sponge, a worker who has the attitude "I'll work one hour, take a two hour break, work for ten minutes, take a four hour lunch break, go back and punch out your time card.
No thanks, you're a waste of skin. Join the military, at least learn some discipline.
Who among us hasn't cheated on his wife/mistress, overseen crooked deals, borrowed an apartment from a mob-connected friend guilty of manslaughter for carnal experience, cheated the taxpayers, and shilled for the most inept president in history, all while not having a nanny?
Alas, not me. Some of that stuff sounds pretty fun, though.
Who among us hasn't cheated on his wife/mistress, overseen crooked deals, borrowed an apartment from a mob-connected friend guilty of manslaughter for carnal experience, cheated the taxpayers, and shilled for the most inept president in history, all while not having a nanny?
Alas, not me. Some of that stuff sounds pretty fun, though.
Well, except not having a nanny. Child-rearin' is hard. It's hard work.
Well, except not having a nanny. Child-rearin' is hard. It's hard work.
My grandparents were dirt poor, and my mother got into SMU on an academic scholarship. In the 50s.
Dang, I hate smart, determined
folks. They make such a muck of the educationary class.
My grandparents were dirt poor, and my mother got into SMU on an academic scholarship. In the 50s.
Dang, I hate smart, determined
folks. They make such a muck of the educationary class.
I own my own business and employ twelve people.
Dear Penthouse, I'm an 18-year-old blonde cheerleader who never thought she'd be writing to Forum! Then, the other day, after gym class...
I own my own business and employ twelve people.
Dear Penthouse, I'm an 18-year-old blonde cheerleader who never thought she'd be writing to Forum! Then, the other day, after gym class...
When Bernie's fucking me, I imagine all the homeless peoples' skulls he's busted open. It makes me cum really hard.
When Bernie's fucking me, I imagine all the homeless peoples' skulls he's busted open. It makes me cum really hard.
Dear Penthouse, I'm an 18-year-old blonde cheerleader who never thought she'd be writing to Forum! Then, the other day, after gym class...
dave | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 1:32 am | #
Not only are you non-original, you are deluded. Go see a shrink, you need help "Dave".
Dear Penthouse, I'm an 18-year-old blonde cheerleader who never thought she'd be writing to Forum! Then, the other day, after gym class...
dave | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 1:32 am | #
Not only are you non-original, you are deluded. Go see a shrink, you need help "Dave".
Dang, I hate smart, determined
folks. They make such a muck of the educationary class.
bigvic | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 1:31 am | #
So, you like dull and stupid? No wonder Republicans run most of the businesses in this country, the Democrats insist on being anti-intellectual.
You must have hated Kerry for being smart and determined.
Dang, I hate smart, determined
folks. They make such a muck of the educationary class.
bigvic | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 1:31 am | #
So, you like dull and stupid? No wonder Republicans run most of the businesses in this country, the Democrats insist on being anti-intellectual.
You must have hated Kerry for being smart and determined.
My shrink told me I needed an outlet for my feelings of superiority that wouldn't antagonize my employees. I know I would be nowhere without good people working for me. So I waste your time with my smug, patronizing remarks. Thanks for playing along- I'll take the money I was paying the therapist and give my loyal workers at the burger joint a raise.
My shrink told me I needed an outlet for my feelings of superiority that wouldn't antagonize my employees. I know I would be nowhere without good people working for me. So I waste your time with my smug, patronizing remarks. Thanks for playing along- I'll take the money I was paying the therapist and give my loyal workers at the burger joint a raise.
TELL YOUR MOTHER THIS,
she got a sheepdip diploma.
SMU is a joke college. always was. always will be.
it was designed for those that couldn't go elsewhere. very lax admissions policy.
my sister went there. only place that would have her. and when she didn't want to do it greek style, she left. because there is no life at that u unless you are greeking it.
now, this is not to say that you cannot get a tertiary education at smu. you probably can. but it is not the primary motive of the school. the primary motive is to take parental funds and shelter their children for 4 years.
by the way, years ago i surmounted the academic summits. i attended harvard, mit.
perhaps i was too intelligent. but i thought that both of those acmes of academia were jokes.
my experiences caused me to conclude that college was designed to keep vast numbers of the populace out of the workforce. so as to make employment numbers look good.
by and large, college is a vacation.
but college is an industry. sucking up tons of bucks and parading itself as an indispensable feature if one wants to become a member of the establishment.
something to consider, how many federal bucks go into the colleges? how does the college racket work? HOW MANY TAX DOLLARS ARE USED TO SUPPORT THE ILLUSION OF A COLLEGE DEGREE?
TELL YOUR MOTHER THIS,
she got a sheepdip diploma.
SMU is a joke college. always was. always will be.
it was designed for those that couldn't go elsewhere. very lax admissions policy.
my sister went there. only place that would have her. and when she didn't want to do it greek style, she left. because there is no life at that u unless you are greeking it.
now, this is not to say that you cannot get a tertiary education at smu. you probably can. but it is not the primary motive of the school. the primary motive is to take parental funds and shelter their children for 4 years.
by the way, years ago i surmounted the academic summits. i attended harvard, mit.
perhaps i was too intelligent. but i thought that both of those acmes of academia were jokes.
my experiences caused me to conclude that college was designed to keep vast numbers of the populace out of the workforce. so as to make employment numbers look good.
by and large, college is a vacation.
but college is an industry. sucking up tons of bucks and parading itself as an indispensable feature if one wants to become a member of the establishment.
something to consider, how many federal bucks go into the colleges? how does the college racket work? HOW MANY TAX DOLLARS ARE USED TO SUPPORT THE ILLUSION OF A COLLEGE DEGREE?
My shrink told me I needed an outlet for my feelings of superiority that wouldn't antagonize my employees. I know I would be nowhere without good people working for me. So I waste your time with my smug, patronizing remarks. Thanks for playing along- I'll take the money I was paying the therapist and give my loyal workers at the burger joint a raise.
powertrip | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 1:52 am | #
Very funny. I don't own a "burger joint" BTW, I own a Harley shop.
And the people who work for me make money when I make money, e.g. through sales. But then you wouldn't know what that is because you, being a birkenstock liberal, expect the government to hand you everything on a silver platter.
My shrink told me I needed an outlet for my feelings of superiority that wouldn't antagonize my employees. I know I would be nowhere without good people working for me. So I waste your time with my smug, patronizing remarks. Thanks for playing along- I'll take the money I was paying the therapist and give my loyal workers at the burger joint a raise.
powertrip | Email | Homepage | 12.17.04 - 1:52 am | #
Very funny. I don't own a "burger joint" BTW, I own a Harley shop.
And the people who work for me make money when I make money, e.g. through sales. But then you wouldn't know what that is because you, being a birkenstock liberal, expect the government to hand you everything on a silver platter.
who among us doesn't love false kerry quotes?
who among us doesn't love false kerry quotes?
There's a trade deficit. That's easy to resolve. People can buy more United States products if they're worried about the trade deficit.
There's a trade deficit. That's easy to resolve. People can buy more United States products if they're worried about the trade deficit.
powera--
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End of discussion.
powera--
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Jeez. Did someone leave the troll-trap open? There appears to be an infestation.
Jeez. Did someone leave the troll-trap open? There appears to be an infestation.
"Eighty-something comments with no question?:
Who among us hasn't cheated on his wife/mistress, overseen crooked deals, borrowed an apartment from a mob-connected friend guilty of manslaughter for carnal experience, cheated the taxpayers, and shilled for the most inept president in history, all while not having a nanny"
Not Bill Clinton. Chelsea raised herself.
"Eighty-something comments with no question?:
Who among us hasn't cheated on his wife/mistress, overseen crooked deals, borrowed an apartment from a mob-connected friend guilty of manslaughter for carnal experience, cheated the taxpayers, and shilled for the most inept president in history, all while not having a nanny"
Not Bill Clinton. Chelsea raised herself.
Not Bill Clinton. Chelsea raised herself.
(in a hushed Crocodile Hunter voice)
Ooooh...a rare and primative kitty troll, preprogrammed with classic Leno. Crikey!
Not Bill Clinton. Chelsea raised herself.
(in a hushed Crocodile Hunter voice)
Ooooh...a rare and primative kitty troll, preprogrammed with classic Leno. Crikey!
Hitlery didn't dare hire a nanny for Chelsea, even somebody in her eighties - not with Bubba around. There's nothin' that boy won't touch. But since Hitlery has no maternal instincts, that left Chelsea to raise herself pretty much - no nanny 'cuz Hitlery didn't want 'em suckin' on Bubba's crooked dick, daddy out chasin' skirt and drugs with his bro, Roger-the-convict, and momma out stealin', cheatin', orderin' hits on political enemies and those who knew the truth about their corruptions, and fraudin' the elections.
Hitlery didn't dare hire a nanny for Chelsea, even somebody in her eighties - not with Bubba around. There's nothin' that boy won't touch. But since Hitlery has no maternal instincts, that left Chelsea to raise herself pretty much - no nanny 'cuz Hitlery didn't want 'em suckin' on Bubba's crooked dick, daddy out chasin' skirt and drugs with his bro, Roger-the-convict, and momma out stealin', cheatin', orderin' hits on political enemies and those who knew the truth about their corruptions, and fraudin' the elections.
I guess the patriotic Democrats, Greens, and independents who are fighting for our vote in Ohio are not news to Atrios.
I guess the patriotic Democrats, Greens, and independents who are fighting for our vote in Ohio are not news to Atrios.
by the way, years ago i surmounted the academic summits. i attended harvard, mit.
Sure you did.
by the way, years ago i surmounted the academic summits. i attended harvard, mit.
Sure you did.
Clinton's cock...blah blah blah...Clinton's cock...blah blah blah...Clinton's cock...blah blah blah
kitty
Troll, it's almost 2005, you need a new obsession.
Clinton's cock...blah blah blah...Clinton's cock...blah blah blah...Clinton's cock...blah blah blah
kitty
Troll, it's almost 2005, you need a new obsession.
kitty is a pussy.
Why would the press pay any attention to Kerik? They thought he was just Bush's personal enforcer.
kitty is a pussy.
Why would the press pay any attention to Kerik? They thought he was just Bush's personal enforcer.
Why would the press pay any attention to Kerik?
Looks like this is becoming a very tiny little spark for the press, at least foreign outlets like the BBC and the ABC. I think I even heard a 'list' of suspect charges against Kerik today on NPR.
I read some comments here the other day about 'Taking out Gulianni and clearing the way for Jeb.'
The whole scenario stinks of Rovian intentions.
Why would the press pay any attention to Kerik?
Looks like this is becoming a very tiny little spark for the press, at least foreign outlets like the BBC and the ABC. I think I even heard a 'list' of suspect charges against Kerik today on NPR.
I read some comments here the other day about 'Taking out Gulianni and clearing the way for Jeb.'
The whole scenario stinks of Rovian intentions.
I am always thankful when the deserving get what's coming to them.
Judith Regan, the blue state addressee with the red state libido, is the latest, a Republican of low-life literary goals victimized by a perfumed double cross.
I may ask her if she wants me to do the book.
I am always thankful when the deserving get what's coming to them.
Judith Regan, the blue state addressee with the red state libido, is the latest, a Republican of low-life literary goals victimized by a perfumed double cross.
I may ask her if she wants me to do the book.
Have you ever listened to Dowd speak? Its like finger nails on a chalk board.
Have you ever listened to Dowd speak? Its like finger nails on a chalk board.
You mean, imagine a press that is actually free and independent and does its job?
Imagine a press that follows in the tradition of H.L. Mencken, and doesn't just pay lip service to the ghost of Edward R. Murrow?
The worst part is that Dowd is on "our side." I mean, she's really just on her own side, but she clearly favors the Democrats over the Republicans and Kerry over Bush. It's people like her who give credence to the "liberal bias" shrieks, while doing more harm than good to the cause.
You mean, imagine a press that is actually free and independent and does its job?
Imagine a press that follows in the tradition of H.L. Mencken, and doesn't just pay lip service to the ghost of Edward R. Murrow?
The worst part is that Dowd is on "our side." I mean, she's really just on her own side, but she clearly favors the Democrats over the Republicans and Kerry over Bush. It's people like her who give credence to the "liberal bias" shrieks, while doing more harm than good to the cause.
How much fun the press could have had during the Bush campaign, where our boy Bernie was frequently by his side, if they hadn't been too busy peddling false Kerry quotes...
-Atrios 10:55 PM
And yet MODO acts or at least tries to think she's on our side more than the others?
And it's people like her who hurt us more than the blatant lies uttered by Rush Limbug or Anthrax Coulter.
Since She won't be fired, we migh as well alienate her as a wingnut publicly, and fast, so that liberals and others can avoid her.
MYOB'
.
How much fun the press could have had during the Bush campaign, where our boy Bernie was frequently by his side, if they hadn't been too busy peddling false Kerry quotes...
-Atrios 10:55 PM
And yet MODO acts or at least tries to think she's on our side more than the others?
And it's people like her who hurt us more than the blatant lies uttered by Rush Limbug or Anthrax Coulter.
Since She won't be fired, we migh as well alienate her as a wingnut publicly, and fast, so that liberals and others can avoid her.
MYOB'
.
okay, so now we have had clearly demonstrated for us the sort of people bush surrounds himself with. why aren't people exposing the "dirt" on these people as we go along? why wasn't kerik exposed ON THE FREAKING CAMPAIGN TRAIL? clearly it was not difficult to find out the wide variety of escapades kerik's been involved in.
start publishing some dirt on, for instance, condi rice -- what's with her and scowcroft? what's the real dirt on her background? what about karl rove? i cannot imagine that he is actually "clean" enough that a great stench would not be released with a little bit of pulling back of the proverbial sheets.
i am really kind of disgusted with all the hand-clapping going on about "Oh we knew all along he was a weasel, those repugs are such hypocrites." well, for crying out loud, anyone with any sense knows they are weasels and hypocrites.
the important thing is to expose it up front BEFORE (or at least once) they are "appointed" or "elected" or "consulted" by those making decisions which affect what is happening to this country.
i've also been disappoointed by how much glee progressives/dems seem to get from the sexual aspects of kerik's behavior when in fact the actual demonstrated corruption is the much more important issue. When progressives and dems highlight the scandalous over the criminal, it provides the repugs with significant cover to continue with the criminal.
come on guys! let's get it together here!
i'm doing my part, compiling research on our good old pal alberto g., annointed to be our next attorney general. i'm just hoping that I will get my diatribe finished soon enough for it to be effective. i can't do it alone.
Be an ANT! Do your bit to express outrage through letter, email and phone contact to congress on a WEEKLY OR DAILY BASIS! this is really what we need, I believe. Waiting till 2006 and HOPING that the dems are going to get their act together is sure to lead to disappointment. TAKE THE REPUGS DOWN NOW! THey've set themselves up with all this high-horse crap. KNOCK them off the horse with hardened chunks of their own shit.
okay, so now we have had clearly demonstrated for us the sort of people bush surrounds himself with. why aren't people exposing the "dirt" on these people as we go along? why wasn't kerik exposed ON THE FREAKING CAMPAIGN TRAIL? clearly it was not difficult to find out the wide variety of escapades kerik's been involved in.
start publishing some dirt on, for instance, condi rice -- what's with her and scowcroft? what's the real dirt on her background? what about karl rove? i cannot imagine that he is actually "clean" enough that a great stench would not be released with a little bit of pulling back of the proverbial sheets.
i am really kind of disgusted with all the hand-clapping going on about "Oh we knew all along he was a weasel, those repugs are such hypocrites." well, for crying out loud, anyone with any sense knows they are weasels and hypocrites.
the important thing is to expose it up front BEFORE (or at least once) they are "appointed" or "elected" or "consulted" by those making decisions which affect what is happening to this country.
i've also been disappoointed by how much glee progressives/dems seem to get from the sexual aspects of kerik's behavior when in fact the actual demonstrated corruption is the much more important issue. When progressives and dems highlight the scandalous over the criminal, it provides the repugs with significant cover to continue with the criminal.
come on guys! let's get it together here!
i'm doing my part, compiling research on our good old pal alberto g., annointed to be our next attorney general. i'm just hoping that I will get my diatribe finished soon enough for it to be effective. i can't do it alone.
Be an ANT! Do your bit to express outrage through letter, email and phone contact to congress on a WEEKLY OR DAILY BASIS! this is really what we need, I believe. Waiting till 2006 and HOPING that the dems are going to get their act together is sure to lead to disappointment. TAKE THE REPUGS DOWN NOW! THey've set themselves up with all this high-horse crap. KNOCK them off the horse with hardened chunks of their own shit.
"Clark's military background trumps his intelligence and poise. (Who ever thought poise would be a liability?)"
I guess I did . . . once I realized that a good chunk of my peers seemed to be driven only by the desire to become Britney Spears and Stifler.
"Clark's military background trumps his intelligence and poise. (Who ever thought poise would be a liability?)"
I guess I did . . . once I realized that a good chunk of my peers seemed to be driven only by the desire to become Britney Spears and Stifler.
Brilliant analysis on the red state-- blue state question, powerade. Using your frame of reference, Massachusetts would be considered a red state. Bzzzzzt. No, sorry, but thanks for playing Trollsnark.
Brilliant analysis on the red state-- blue state question, powerade. Using your frame of reference, Massachusetts would be considered a red state. Bzzzzzt. No, sorry, but thanks for playing Trollsnark.
If John Kerry lives a million years, he could NEVER say even half of the stupid, moronic shit that Georgie Jerkoff has said in the last 5 years!
If John Kerry lives a million years, he could NEVER say even half of the stupid, moronic shit that Georgie Jerkoff has said in the last 5 years!
"Hitlery didn't dare hire a nanny for Chelsea, even somebody in her eighties - not with Bubba around."
But it's okay, Kitty, for George Jerkoff and his pack of thieves to FUCK the entire COUNTRY.
"Hitlery" - what an asshole you are!
Welcome to MURKA, folks. Smart bad, stupid good!
"Hitlery didn't dare hire a nanny for Chelsea, even somebody in her eighties - not with Bubba around."
But it's okay, Kitty, for George Jerkoff and his pack of thieves to FUCK the entire COUNTRY.
"Hitlery" - what an asshole you are!
Welcome to MURKA, folks. Smart bad, stupid good!
"You people have no business trying to disrupt society with your refusal to work. If you work for me and you go on strike, I will fire your ass and hire someone who cares about making a buck.
powerade"
Translation: if you dare to stand up for your rights as a human being, I will trade you for someone who will take whatever I decide to hand them.
Typical repug!
"You people have no business trying to disrupt society with your refusal to work. If you work for me and you go on strike, I will fire your ass and hire someone who cares about making a buck.
powerade"
Translation: if you dare to stand up for your rights as a human being, I will trade you for someone who will take whatever I decide to hand them.
Typical repug!
"powerade" is so busy raking in the bucks, yet he still has hours of time to waste dueling with "birkenstock liberals." Exactly how many papers does he have to deliver on his route each morning?
"powerade" is so busy raking in the bucks, yet he still has hours of time to waste dueling with "birkenstock liberals." Exactly how many papers does he have to deliver on his route each morning?
kerry laid down way too quickly after the election. it raises questions to his lame performance during the campaign. sure, he won all three debates, but look who he was up against.
kerry seemed to be handcuffed the whole time and his silence now only prompts thoughts of compliance.
kerry laid down way too quickly after the election. it raises questions to his lame performance during the campaign. sure, he won all three debates, but look who he was up against.
kerry seemed to be handcuffed the whole time and his silence now only prompts thoughts of compliance.
Kitty, you moron, Chelsea is a poised, intelligent, successful young woman who, by all appearances, has a very strong relationship with both of her parents. Even as a teenager, when traveling with her parents on state visits, she was a credit to this country. Of ALL the garbage you repug bastards have thrown at the Clintons for all these years, being bad parents is a charge that would never stick. Considering that Chelsea spent her teenage years in the fishbowl of the White House, surrounded by the toxic atmosphere created by scumbags like Starr and Gingrich, it is a miracle that she turned out so well. She is powerful evidence of Bill and Hillary's parenting skills. So STFU about Hillary. Go inflict yourself on some other blog. And buy yourself a calendar so you can figure out how long you have been hanging on to all that misplaced venom.
Kitty, you moron, Chelsea is a poised, intelligent, successful young woman who, by all appearances, has a very strong relationship with both of her parents. Even as a teenager, when traveling with her parents on state visits, she was a credit to this country. Of ALL the garbage you repug bastards have thrown at the Clintons for all these years, being bad parents is a charge that would never stick. Considering that Chelsea spent her teenage years in the fishbowl of the White House, surrounded by the toxic atmosphere created by scumbags like Starr and Gingrich, it is a miracle that she turned out so well. She is powerful evidence of Bill and Hillary's parenting skills. So STFU about Hillary. Go inflict yourself on some other blog. And buy yourself a calendar so you can figure out how long you have been hanging on to all that misplaced venom.
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Kitty:
Shut the fuck up!
Kitty:
Shut the fuck up!
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