I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Frist?
Frist?
Thanks for the new thread. I'm not gonna say it.
Thanks for the new thread. I'm not gonna say it.
Primero!
This never happened to me before!
Primero!
This never happened to me before!
The little general
Bow to him!
The little general
Bow to him!
Matt, your not linking to a penis, are you?
Matt, your not linking to a penis, are you?
"Matt, your not linking to a penis, are you?"
Not exactly. More of a bush, really.
"Matt, your not linking to a penis, are you?"
Not exactly. More of a bush, really.
Y'all aren't gonna talk about pulling stuff out of cat's butts are you?
And: Tedium, thy name is "first poster".
And: Overt Racism is the new cool.
Word.
Y'all aren't gonna talk about pulling stuff out of cat's butts are you?
And: Tedium, thy name is "first poster".
And: Overt Racism is the new cool.
Word.
anyways
anyways
Whoops! Forgot to add: Happy Holidays!
Whoops! Forgot to add: Happy Holidays!
MisterX, I hope you aren't implying that I'm a member of the lumpen trolliariat, because I'm the Son of God, dammit.
MisterX, I hope you aren't implying that I'm a member of the lumpen trolliariat, because I'm the Son of God, dammit.
Just read this on RawStory...
They just can't get over Clinton, can they?
U.S. Sen. James M. Inhofe said Thursday that cutbacks during the Clinton administration resulted in the lack of armor and other material faced by U.S. troops in Iraq.
"Eight years of Bill Clinton decimated the military to almost half of what it was in 1990," he said during a stop in Muskogee.
The Oklahoma Republican, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said that in 1991, U.S. armed forces were armed with "a Reagan military," and had more funding and ordinance.
However under Clinton, projects were cut and "modernization stopped."
Just read this on RawStory...
They just can't get over Clinton, can they?
U.S. Sen. James M. Inhofe said Thursday that cutbacks during the Clinton administration resulted in the lack of armor and other material faced by U.S. troops in Iraq.
"Eight years of Bill Clinton decimated the military to almost half of what it was in 1990," he said during a stop in Muskogee.
The Oklahoma Republican, a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said that in 1991, U.S. armed forces were armed with "a Reagan military," and had more funding and ordinance.
However under Clinton, projects were cut and "modernization stopped."
Bob Somerby on Social Security.
Bob Somerby on Social Security.
Karin sez:
Primero!
This never happened to me before!
Bzzzt!
Try again.
.
Karin sez:
Primero!
This never happened to me before!
Bzzzt!
Try again.
.
She didn't run. (burp!) I ate her!
She didn't run. (burp!) I ate her!
Y'all aren't gonna talk about pulling stuff out of cat's butts are you?
Ô¿Ô -No, but I have a story about pulling a hamster out of Liddy Dole's butt.
Y'all aren't gonna talk about pulling stuff out of cat's butts are you?
Ô¿Ô -No, but I have a story about pulling a hamster out of Liddy Dole's butt.
We had some friends over last night, and one was telling me how his freeper dad sent around an email accusing Target of being 'anti-Christian' for banning the Salvation Army from collecting at their stores.
As ludicrous as this whole 'Christmas under siege' argument is, it seems that a lot of people actually believe it to be true.
It's wild how people like O'Reilly proclaim that this country is 90% Christian and they hold all the power, and still claim that they're 'under siege' by a group of people they ostensibly outnumber 9 to 1.
It would be funny if it weren't so goddam stupid and pathetic.
We had some friends over last night, and one was telling me how his freeper dad sent around an email accusing Target of being 'anti-Christian' for banning the Salvation Army from collecting at their stores.
As ludicrous as this whole 'Christmas under siege' argument is, it seems that a lot of people actually believe it to be true.
It's wild how people like O'Reilly proclaim that this country is 90% Christian and they hold all the power, and still claim that they're 'under siege' by a group of people they ostensibly outnumber 9 to 1.
It would be funny if it weren't so goddam stupid and pathetic.
matt--thanks for the reminder about civilian leadership. love the comparison to the uniformed thugs. khadafy's getup kinda reminds me of the over-the-top surplus military look from the beatles era.
matt--thanks for the reminder about civilian leadership. love the comparison to the uniformed thugs. khadafy's getup kinda reminds me of the over-the-top surplus military look from the beatles era.
It is past time for the dismantling of Christianity.
It is past time for the dismantling of Christianity.
All religion, actually.
But let's get rid of Christianity first.
All religion, actually.
But let's get rid of Christianity first.
MisterX, I hope you aren't implying that I'm a member of the lumpen trolliariat, because I'm the Son of God, dammit.
Republican Jesus
YourDad Dammit, of course not, Republican Jesus. I was merely referring to those who add naught to the scriptures but a "I'm First, Looka Me!"-post. The word of Republican Jesus always brings a tear of joy to my severly White Male Christian eye.
In a completely manly, heterosexual way, of course.
MisterX, I hope you aren't implying that I'm a member of the lumpen trolliariat, because I'm the Son of God, dammit.
Republican Jesus
YourDad Dammit, of course not, Republican Jesus. I was merely referring to those who add naught to the scriptures but a "I'm First, Looka Me!"-post. The word of Republican Jesus always brings a tear of joy to my severly White Male Christian eye.
In a completely manly, heterosexual way, of course.
As ludicrous as this whole 'Christmas under siege' argument is, it seems that a lot of people actually believe it to be true.
I can almost see Rove, Norquist, and the rest sitting around a table, wondering how to finally kill off the left.
NORQUIST: We only won by two points, d George is a war president--that's not good.
ROVE: I've got a plan to sink the Left for good.
NORQUIST: How's that?
ROVE: We tell everyone they hate Christmas.
As ludicrous as this whole 'Christmas under siege' argument is, it seems that a lot of people actually believe it to be true.
I can almost see Rove, Norquist, and the rest sitting around a table, wondering how to finally kill off the left.
NORQUIST: We only won by two points, d George is a war president--that's not good.
ROVE: I've got a plan to sink the Left for good.
NORQUIST: How's that?
ROVE: We tell everyone they hate Christmas.
If Inhofe were not dumber than a sack of W's, he would know who authorized every penny spent during Clinton's tenure, and would be beating himself about the head with those appropriation bills his Republican buddies passed.
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If Inhofe were not dumber than a sack of W's, he would know who authorized every penny spent during Clinton's tenure, and would be beating himself about the head with those appropriation bills his Republican buddies passed.
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decimated to almost half.
decimated to almost half.
"Christmas under siege"
Ah, there's a title for a holiday special.
I suggest we respond to one and all who wish us a Merry Christmas by wishing them a Happy Saturnalia. After all, that's the pagan festival the early Christians hijacked 'cause they felt like they were missing out on the fun.
Too bad their modern equivalent isn't similarly open-minded.
"Christmas under siege"
Ah, there's a title for a holiday special.
I suggest we respond to one and all who wish us a Merry Christmas by wishing them a Happy Saturnalia. After all, that's the pagan festival the early Christians hijacked 'cause they felt like they were missing out on the fun.
Too bad their modern equivalent isn't similarly open-minded.
Mister X: 44% want to curtail the right of Muslim Americans.
Welcome to the Little Green States of America.
Mister X: 44% want to curtail the right of Muslim Americans.
Welcome to the Little Green States of America.
Repost:
This was enjoyed by some yesterday...
Holiday Eating Tips:
1. Avoid carrot sticks.
Anyone who puts carrots on a holiday buffet table knows nothing of the
Christmas spirit.
In fact, if you see carrots, leave immediately. Go next door, where they're serving stollen and rum balls.
2. Drink as much eggnog as you can. And quickly. Like fine single-malt
scotch, it's rare.
In fact, it's even rarer than single-malt scotch. You can't find it any
other time of year but now.
So drink up!
Who cares that it has 10,000 calories in every sip? It's not as if you're
going to turn into an eggnog-aholic or something. It's a treat. Enjoy it.
Have one for me. Have two. It's later than you think. It's Christmas!
3. If something comes with gravy, use it.
That's the whole point of gravy. Gravy does not stand alone. Pour it on.
Make a volcano out of your mashed potatoes. Fill it with gravy. Eat the
volcano. Repeat.
4. As for mashed potatoes, always ask if they're made with skim milk or
whole milk.
If it's skim, pass. Why bother? It's like buying a sports car with an
automatic transmission.
5. Do not have a snack before going to a party in an effort to control your
eating.
The whole point of going to a Christmas party is to eat other people's food
for free.
Lots of it. Hello?
6. Under no circumstances should you exercise between now and New Year's.
You can do that in January when you have nothing else to do.
This is the time for long naps, which you'll need after circling the buffet
table while carrying a 10-pound plate of food and that vat of eggnog.
7. If you come across something really good at a buffet table, like frosted
Christmas cookies in the shape and size of Santa, position yourself near
them and don't budge.
Have as many as you can before becoming the center of attention. They're
like a beautiful pair of shoes. If you leave them behind, you're never going
to see them again.
8. Same for pies. Apple. Pumpkin. Mincemeat. Have a slice of each.
Or, if you don't like mincemeat, have two apples and one pumpkin. Always
have three. When else do you get to have more than one dessert? Labor Day?
9. Did someone mention fruitcake?
Granted, it's loaded with the mandatory celebratory calories, but avoid it
at all cost. I mean, have some standards.
10. One final tip: If you don't feel terrible when you leave the party or
get up from the table, you haven't been paying attention.
Reread tips; start over, but hurry, January is just around the corner.
Remember this motto to live by:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, a dime bag in one hand, bottle of scotch in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
Jolly Holidays, chers...
Repost:
This was enjoyed by some yesterday...
Holiday Eating Tips:
1. Avoid carrot sticks.
Anyone who puts carrots on a holiday buffet table knows nothing of the
Christmas spirit.
In fact, if you see carrots, leave immediately. Go next door, where they're serving stollen and rum balls.
2. Drink as much eggnog as you can. And quickly. Like fine single-malt
scotch, it's rare.
In fact, it's even rarer than single-malt scotch. You can't find it any
other time of year but now.
So drink up!
Who cares that it has 10,000 calories in every sip? It's not as if you're
going to turn into an eggnog-aholic or something. It's a treat. Enjoy it.
Have one for me. Have two. It's later than you think. It's Christmas!
3. If something comes with gravy, use it.
That's the whole point of gravy. Gravy does not stand alone. Pour it on.
Make a volcano out of your mashed potatoes. Fill it with gravy. Eat the
volcano. Repeat.
4. As for mashed potatoes, always ask if they're made with skim milk or
whole milk.
If it's skim, pass. Why bother? It's like buying a sports car with an
automatic transmission.
5. Do not have a snack before going to a party in an effort to control your
eating.
The whole point of going to a Christmas party is to eat other people's food
for free.
Lots of it. Hello?
6. Under no circumstances should you exercise between now and New Year's.
You can do that in January when you have nothing else to do.
This is the time for long naps, which you'll need after circling the buffet
table while carrying a 10-pound plate of food and that vat of eggnog.
7. If you come across something really good at a buffet table, like frosted
Christmas cookies in the shape and size of Santa, position yourself near
them and don't budge.
Have as many as you can before becoming the center of attention. They're
like a beautiful pair of shoes. If you leave them behind, you're never going
to see them again.
8. Same for pies. Apple. Pumpkin. Mincemeat. Have a slice of each.
Or, if you don't like mincemeat, have two apples and one pumpkin. Always
have three. When else do you get to have more than one dessert? Labor Day?
9. Did someone mention fruitcake?
Granted, it's loaded with the mandatory celebratory calories, but avoid it
at all cost. I mean, have some standards.
10. One final tip: If you don't feel terrible when you leave the party or
get up from the table, you haven't been paying attention.
Reread tips; start over, but hurry, January is just around the corner.
Remember this motto to live by:
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, a dime bag in one hand, bottle of scotch in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
Jolly Holidays, chers...
Roddy you've got it!
Let's all write letters to the editor and insist that as Pagans we're deeply offended that store employees don't wish as a "Happy Saturnalia."
Roddy you've got it!
Let's all write letters to the editor and insist that as Pagans we're deeply offended that store employees don't wish as a "Happy Saturnalia."
'However under Clinton, projects were cut and "modernization stopped."'
One would think if the military was in such terrible condition, Bush and Imhoff would want to fix it as soon as Rethugs took office, in case we needed to go to war with anybody.
'However under Clinton, projects were cut and "modernization stopped."'
One would think if the military was in such terrible condition, Bush and Imhoff would want to fix it as soon as Rethugs took office, in case we needed to go to war with anybody.
Konopelli
Either First Draft or Corrente reposted that last night. I laugned my ass off when I read it. Good stuff.
Konopelli
Either First Draft or Corrente reposted that last night. I laugned my ass off when I read it. Good stuff.
Ho ho ho, you stupid liberals. How dumb can you get? Hatred for your country, for Christians, for the Free Market Itself. And you wonder why you lost? Perhaps you take your media too seriously. We in the heartland are tired of your elitist garbage and we are taking our country back.
Ho ho ho, you stupid liberals. How dumb can you get? Hatred for your country, for Christians, for the Free Market Itself. And you wonder why you lost? Perhaps you take your media too seriously. We in the heartland are tired of your elitist garbage and we are taking our country back.
It would be funny if it weren't so goddam stupid and pathetic.
...and if it weren't so goddamned insidious and insulting.
It would be funny if it weren't so goddam stupid and pathetic.
...and if it weren't so goddamned insidious and insulting.
I'm with Konopelli! Words to live by.
I'm with Konopelli! Words to live by.
And you hate freedom and hate Christmas, too. How touching. You think the reason for the season is about being socialists. No. It is about our saviour and being thankful for freedom and the men and women who protect that.
And you hate freedom and hate Christmas, too. How touching. You think the reason for the season is about being socialists. No. It is about our saviour and being thankful for freedom and the men and women who protect that.
In other news, Senator Inhofe has decimated to almost half the english language, and nearly delivered the penultimate blow to the privacy of Americans' tax returns.
In other news, Senator Inhofe has decimated to almost half the english language, and nearly delivered the penultimate blow to the privacy of Americans' tax returns.
So you think your socialist agenda was ever going to matter? Think again. Business and the economy will not be hamstrung by your silly rules and hair-brained theories of environmental justice (ha!) and social enginnering. Hippie claptrap and anti-freedom.
So you think your socialist agenda was ever going to matter? Think again. Business and the economy will not be hamstrung by your silly rules and hair-brained theories of environmental justice (ha!) and social enginnering. Hippie claptrap and anti-freedom.
"Our savior"? What did he "save"?
Not the peasants we mercilessly slaughtered in Fallujah.
Meanwhile IT'S CHECK-OUT TIME!!!
"Our savior"? What did he "save"?
Not the peasants we mercilessly slaughtered in Fallujah.
Meanwhile IT'S CHECK-OUT TIME!!!
Isn't American Action Freedom Champion the hot new Christmas toy this year?
Isn't American Action Freedom Champion the hot new Christmas toy this year?
I like how the troll (troll impersonator?) can't figure out that you handle can only be so many letters long. If it's an impersonator, that's the kind of authentic troll touch connoisseurs appriciate.
I like how the troll (troll impersonator?) can't figure out that you handle can only be so many letters long. If it's an impersonator, that's the kind of authentic troll touch connoisseurs appriciate.
David E-
I don't want him dead, I want him in the dock.
With Kissinger.
Then I want them dead.
.
David E-
I don't want him dead, I want him in the dock.
With Kissinger.
Then I want them dead.
.
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, a dime bag in one hand, bottle of scotch in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
Here, Here!
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, a dime bag in one hand, bottle of scotch in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
Here, Here!
Yeah, Konopelli's Motto is the One True Way as far as I'm concerned. And it's not stupid, pathetic, insidious or insulting.
Blatant whoring for the holidays:
Mandate, My Ass
Atriots Shop at Cafe Press (all profits go to Eschaton)
... and my music.
Yeah, Konopelli's Motto is the One True Way as far as I'm concerned. And it's not stupid, pathetic, insidious or insulting.
Blatant whoring for the holidays:
Mandate, My Ass
Atriots Shop at Cafe Press (all profits go to Eschaton)
... and my music.
There's a Jewish guy at work who objected to all of the Christmas decorations at work, so they pulled them down. Now, everybody hates him.
I don't think they understood how much it made him feel like an outsider. I try to explain it to them, but their eyes just glaze over.
My wife feels the opposite about Christmas. Sometimes, I think she married me so that she could have a tree and take the girls to see Santa. The daughters and grandson dig it too. They get both Hannukah and Christmas.
There's a Jewish guy at work who objected to all of the Christmas decorations at work, so they pulled them down. Now, everybody hates him.
I don't think they understood how much it made him feel like an outsider. I try to explain it to them, but their eyes just glaze over.
My wife feels the opposite about Christmas. Sometimes, I think she married me so that she could have a tree and take the girls to see Santa. The daughters and grandson dig it too. They get both Hannukah and Christmas.
It's absolutely true that liberals hate Christmas. Why, those vile knaves are so seething with hatred towards this sacred holiday that they've been staging protest park-ins, taking up all the parking places at upscale shopping centers. I know, I've seen it all over the place the last couple of weeks - parking lots jam packed with vehicles sporting Kerry-Edwards stickers, the new and improved mark of the beast.
It's absolutely true that liberals hate Christmas. Why, those vile knaves are so seething with hatred towards this sacred holiday that they've been staging protest park-ins, taking up all the parking places at upscale shopping centers. I know, I've seen it all over the place the last couple of weeks - parking lots jam packed with vehicles sporting Kerry-Edwards stickers, the new and improved mark of the beast.
Whyy isn't HaloScan letting me fix my typos? I corrected "Draco" "your" and "appreciate" in that last post, and it sent through the mistakes. Huh?
Whyy isn't HaloScan letting me fix my typos? I corrected "Draco" "your" and "appreciate" in that last post, and it sent through the mistakes. Huh?
String needs a baff. But he's not going to like that....
String needs a baff. But he's not going to like that....
Does anyone else find it funny when the trolls refer to us as elitists? I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm just a middle class working stiff who's trying to do what's right for my country.
Does anyone else find it funny when the trolls refer to us as elitists? I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm just a middle class working stiff who's trying to do what's right for my country.
Kinda what spork said. I want the entire administration in chains before the Hague, convicted of every last damn war crime they've committed, and then left to rot in separate oubliettes for the rest of their hopefully long and miserable lives.
Kinda what spork said. I want the entire administration in chains before the Hague, convicted of every last damn war crime they've committed, and then left to rot in separate oubliettes for the rest of their hopefully long and miserable lives.
kissfan - yes, but you're literate and have a functioning brain. It's the "elitism" of intellect and ability to use one's own brain that they find most objectionable.
kissfan - yes, but you're literate and have a functioning brain. It's the "elitism" of intellect and ability to use one's own brain that they find most objectionable.
American Action Freedom Champi, American Freedom Of Action Ple, et al
Easy there, sport, you're hyperventilating.
Come sit and enjoy the festive pagan solstice ceremony and enjoy this delightful salted infant!
American Action Freedom Champi, American Freedom Of Action Ple, et al
Easy there, sport, you're hyperventilating.
Come sit and enjoy the festive pagan solstice ceremony and enjoy this delightful salted infant!
He grooms himself all the time and he doesn't stink or anything but his coat isn't especially shiny. In fact, it's dull. I want it to shine.
He grooms himself all the time and he doesn't stink or anything but his coat isn't especially shiny. In fact, it's dull. I want it to shine.
General
As long as you are visiting. Did you grow up near La Verkin and Virgin Utah (from the overnight thread)?
General
As long as you are visiting. Did you grow up near La Verkin and Virgin Utah (from the overnight thread)?
How do you bathe a cat? They're wild-eyed about it and they have claws.
How do you bathe a cat? They're wild-eyed about it and they have claws.
Kerry-Edwards stickers, the new and improved mark of the beast.
HA HA HA HA HA!
Kerry-Edwards stickers, the new and improved mark of the beast.
HA HA HA HA HA!
Incog - some cats have shiny coats and some don't, but usually, a cat has to become mature, with a mature coat before it gets shiny.
Make sure String gets enough good protein and oil and he'll be fine.
Incog - some cats have shiny coats and some don't, but usually, a cat has to become mature, with a mature coat before it gets shiny.
Make sure String gets enough good protein and oil and he'll be fine.
No, HB. I grew up in N. Utah, about 300 miles north of those towns.
No, HB. I grew up in N. Utah, about 300 miles north of those towns.
The quality of string's coat may be due to diet.
The quality of string's coat may be due to diet.
Incog - don't bathe him - cats in general don't need to be bathed. You'll dry out his skin and coat. String knows what to do for himself. Cats are like that.
Incog - don't bathe him - cats in general don't need to be bathed. You'll dry out his skin and coat. String knows what to do for himself. Cats are like that.
It's the "elitism" of intellect and ability to use one's own brain that they find most objectionable.
So what I hear you saying is: They don't like us because we're smarter than they are.
I think you could be on to something there.
It's the "elitism" of intellect and ability to use one's own brain that they find most objectionable.
So what I hear you saying is: They don't like us because we're smarter than they are.
I think you could be on to something there.
The Liberal hated Christmas!
The whole Christmas season!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
The Liberal hated Christmas!
The whole Christmas season!
Now, please don't ask why. No one quite knows the reason.
It could be his head wasn't screwed on just right.
It could be, perhaps, that his shoes were too tight.
But I think that the most likely reason of all
May have been that his heart was two sizes too small.
There's no need to send BushCo to the Hague when US law is quite sufficient to jail them for life. Watching teevee, you'f think that the Geneva conventions are international law, and therefore somehow optional, which is certainly what BushCo wants you to think. But they're US law and you don't trump them by signing a memo.
There's no need to send BushCo to the Hague when US law is quite sufficient to jail them for life. Watching teevee, you'f think that the Geneva conventions are international law, and therefore somehow optional, which is certainly what BushCo wants you to think. But they're US law and you don't trump them by signing a memo.
How do you bathe a cat? They're wild-eyed about it and they have claws.
Ô¿Ô - 2:35 pm
As long as it's a short-haired kitten, you shouldn't get too much fur on your tongue.
How do you bathe a cat? They're wild-eyed about it and they have claws.
Ô¿Ô - 2:35 pm
As long as it's a short-haired kitten, you shouldn't get too much fur on your tongue.
Ô¿Ô - if your kitty has been an outside cat and only recently became an inside dweller, his coat will get softer and shinier the longer he lives indoors. I don't know how much the bathing will endear you to him and increase your bond...
try a wet, wrung-out washcloth that's warm and "pet" him with the washcloth so that he gets used to it.
Ô¿Ô - if your kitty has been an outside cat and only recently became an inside dweller, his coat will get softer and shinier the longer he lives indoors. I don't know how much the bathing will endear you to him and increase your bond...
try a wet, wrung-out washcloth that's warm and "pet" him with the washcloth so that he gets used to it.
Make sure String gets enough good protein and oil and he'll be fine.
Tena
He gets all that I guess but they never have to be bathed?
Make sure String gets enough good protein and oil and he'll be fine.
Tena
He gets all that I guess but they never have to be bathed?
kissfan, Jennifer -- I know what you mean. I'm a little too unemployed to feel particularly elitist.
On the other hand, my book and music collections rock. 
kissfan, Jennifer -- I know what you mean. I'm a little too unemployed to feel particularly elitist.
On the other hand, my book and music collections rock.
Fat-free Pringles for Yuschenko?
Some studies have shown that olestra, used as a fat substitute in some foods, can help eliminate fat-soluble pollutants such as dioxin.
Researchers at the University of Cincinnati School of Medicine in Ohio and the University of Western Australia, in a not-yet-published study, say they have treated a woman with PCB toxicity over a two-year period using olestra in the form of fat-free Pringles. They report that the woman's chloracne disappeared and the levels of PCB in her fat tissue dropped dramatically.
Fat-free Pringles for Yuschenko?
Some studies have shown that olestra, used as a fat substitute in some foods, can help eliminate fat-soluble pollutants such as dioxin.
Researchers at the University of Cincinnati School of Medicine in Ohio and the University of Western Australia, in a not-yet-published study, say they have treated a woman with PCB toxicity over a two-year period using olestra in the form of fat-free Pringles. They report that the woman's chloracne disappeared and the levels of PCB in her fat tissue dropped dramatically.
He grooms himself all the time and he doesn't stink or anything but his coat isn't especially shiny. In fact, it's dull. I want it to shine.
Ô¿Ô
Have you tried a spraycan of Duron glossy clearcoat?
And Steve Martin had a joke about giving his cat a bath, but he hated how the fur stuck to his tongue.
He grooms himself all the time and he doesn't stink or anything but his coat isn't especially shiny. In fact, it's dull. I want it to shine.
Ô¿Ô
Have you tried a spraycan of Duron glossy clearcoat?
And Steve Martin had a joke about giving his cat a bath, but he hated how the fur stuck to his tongue.
patriotboy sez:
There's a Jewish guy at work who objected to all of the Christmas decorations at work, so they pulled them down. Now, everybody hates him.
He should go back to Israel!
[spork]
patriotboy sez:
There's a Jewish guy at work who objected to all of the Christmas decorations at work, so they pulled them down. Now, everybody hates him.
He should go back to Israel!
[spork]
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
Incognito-I would use baby shampoo because of the cat's eyes. But I agree with Tena. The cat does not need a bath. Plus you are going to have a sulking cat for a while.
Incognito-I would use baby shampoo because of the cat's eyes. But I agree with Tena. The cat does not need a bath. Plus you are going to have a sulking cat for a while.
OT: Open question.
Do you think that if a certain far-right US blog was being funded by, say, the Likud party, (or close friends thereof) that the blogger concerned has a moral duty to disclose that fact?
OT: Open question.
Do you think that if a certain far-right US blog was being funded by, say, the Likud party, (or close friends thereof) that the blogger concerned has a moral duty to disclose that fact?
Incog - don't bathe String, dammit. Cats don't need to be bathed unless something unusual comes along that makes it necessary.
Really - the beauty of cats is that they are naturally clean. You're just going to piss him off and maybe give him the sniffles.
Just don't - you really aren't supposed to.
Incog - don't bathe String, dammit. Cats don't need to be bathed unless something unusual comes along that makes it necessary.
Really - the beauty of cats is that they are naturally clean. You're just going to piss him off and maybe give him the sniffles.
Just don't - you really aren't supposed to.
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
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Don't forget the rhinocerous-hide elbow-length gloves.
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
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Don't forget the rhinocerous-hide elbow-length gloves.
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
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Don't dip it in deep water, it will naturally act as though you are trying to drown it.
Use a hand-held sprayer in the tub/shower. Won't be happy, probably tremble with fear, but much better tolerated.
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
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Don't dip it in deep water, it will naturally act as though you are trying to drown it.
Use a hand-held sprayer in the tub/shower. Won't be happy, probably tremble with fear, but much better tolerated.
Yeah, Draco, but it's a symbolic thing. And it ties in with Bush's insistance that Amurka's better than the UN and the ICC.
When half our country and the rest of the world told our government that this war was bad, wrong, unjustified, illegal, immoral, and fattening, Dubya said their/our opinions were irrelevant. Two years later, he's been proved wrong, we've been proved right, but the war goes on.
I want his chimp ass humiliated for the evil he's done and continues to do. And everybody who supports him, from Darth to the kid who makes the coffee.
Yeah, Draco, but it's a symbolic thing. And it ties in with Bush's insistance that Amurka's better than the UN and the ICC.
When half our country and the rest of the world told our government that this war was bad, wrong, unjustified, illegal, immoral, and fattening, Dubya said their/our opinions were irrelevant. Two years later, he's been proved wrong, we've been proved right, but the war goes on.
I want his chimp ass humiliated for the evil he's done and continues to do. And everybody who supports him, from Darth to the kid who makes the coffee.
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
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Be sure and have a videocam running.
I want to see the pictures when String goes berserk and rips your ass to shreds.
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
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Be sure and have a videocam running.
I want to see the pictures when String goes berserk and rips your ass to shreds.
Has anybody seen this?
I found it over @ DailyKos. It's a letter from a conservative Christian minister named Chuck Baldwin and it explains why the religious right scares him.
It's very good.
Has anybody seen this?
I found it over @ DailyKos. It's a letter from a conservative Christian minister named Chuck Baldwin and it explains why the religious right scares him.
It's very good.
You know, I keep seeing stuff in the blogosphere about what Dems should do about Social Security, but I'm not seeing anything big from the political sphere. Why? What are Dems waiting for, the complete rollover their going to get when the big media push comes? Shouldn't they be setting the terms of the debate now; shouldn't they be saying, "What crisis?" now? I just don't get it, does anybody else?
You know, I keep seeing stuff in the blogosphere about what Dems should do about Social Security, but I'm not seeing anything big from the political sphere. Why? What are Dems waiting for, the complete rollover their going to get when the big media push comes? Shouldn't they be setting the terms of the debate now; shouldn't they be saying, "What crisis?" now? I just don't get it, does anybody else?
Elitists? They wouldn't know an elitist if a bunch of them took over the country in broad daylight.
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Elitists? They wouldn't know an elitist if a bunch of them took over the country in broad daylight.
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Just don't - you really aren't supposed to.
Tena
OK, I wont. He's sitting on my lap right now licking and grooming himself but his coat is dull.
Just don't - you really aren't supposed to.
Tena
OK, I wont. He's sitting on my lap right now licking and grooming himself but his coat is dull.
In the 60's and 70's, people like Ezra Taft Benson and Cleon Skousen popularized a kind of Mormon extreme conservatism based on a Joesph Smith prophesy that the "Constitution would hang by a thread" and that "the Elders of Zion" would save it. Orrin Hatch ran whisper campaigns saying that he was the Elder mentioned in the prophecy.
In the Eighties, Skousen's "Freemen Institute" became a powerful force in Utah, basically running the state, but by the mid-nineties, a more moderate conservatism, lead by the Leavitt family, HHS nominee Mike, his father, and his brother, took back control.
It sounds to me like the more crazy Freeman conservatism is still powerful in S. Utah. That's funny, because it's the Leavitt's base.
In the 60's and 70's, people like Ezra Taft Benson and Cleon Skousen popularized a kind of Mormon extreme conservatism based on a Joesph Smith prophesy that the "Constitution would hang by a thread" and that "the Elders of Zion" would save it. Orrin Hatch ran whisper campaigns saying that he was the Elder mentioned in the prophecy.
In the Eighties, Skousen's "Freemen Institute" became a powerful force in Utah, basically running the state, but by the mid-nineties, a more moderate conservatism, lead by the Leavitt family, HHS nominee Mike, his father, and his brother, took back control.
It sounds to me like the more crazy Freeman conservatism is still powerful in S. Utah. That's funny, because it's the Leavitt's base.
we can be thankfull that we have a man like george w bush as president now!
in the chicago tribune yesterday this story appeared- a u.s. army combat vet by the name of marquise roberts had a friend shoot him in the leg in order to avoid being sent back to iraq!
fortunately this dishonorable plot was discovered, and the culprits will be adequately punished!!
it is good that gwb is president!, as we all know his attitude toward people who sign up for the military and then don't fulfill their obligations!
no namby pamby treatment for this disgusting attempt to, in essence, desert!
bush is president and i guarantee that he will see that justice is done.
thyis roberts guy is so cooked.
we can be thankfull that we have a man like george w bush as president now!
in the chicago tribune yesterday this story appeared- a u.s. army combat vet by the name of marquise roberts had a friend shoot him in the leg in order to avoid being sent back to iraq!
fortunately this dishonorable plot was discovered, and the culprits will be adequately punished!!
it is good that gwb is president!, as we all know his attitude toward people who sign up for the military and then don't fulfill their obligations!
no namby pamby treatment for this disgusting attempt to, in essence, desert!
bush is president and i guarantee that he will see that justice is done.
thyis roberts guy is so cooked.
filkertom - good luck with the employment situation, I was in your shoes a year ago and took a job I wasn't quite sure about just to get through - turned out I was right in my doubts and I'm changing jobs about a month from now. The good news is that the employment situation is improved a great deal from a year ago. Still not great and in some localities I'm sure downright bad, but hang in there. I've been just downright giddy for the past week knowing that I'm finally able to tell my hostile and tyrannical manager (Republican, natch) to kiss my ass.
But it really is the "elitism" of a good brain that pisses them off. People who only know and do what they are told often come to resent those who are smart enough to pick out their own way. They think it's our fault that they feel stupid. Of course it isn't; they could lose that stupid feeling by cracking open the occasional book, but that would be work. So much easier to attack those who "make" one look bad by comparison than it is to take corrective action. Plus, a can-do attitude towards one's own knowledge doesn't fit in real well with the rightwing cult of victimization. It can't be their fault that they are stupid, so it must be ours. Ergo, we are bad people.
filkertom - good luck with the employment situation, I was in your shoes a year ago and took a job I wasn't quite sure about just to get through - turned out I was right in my doubts and I'm changing jobs about a month from now. The good news is that the employment situation is improved a great deal from a year ago. Still not great and in some localities I'm sure downright bad, but hang in there. I've been just downright giddy for the past week knowing that I'm finally able to tell my hostile and tyrannical manager (Republican, natch) to kiss my ass.
But it really is the "elitism" of a good brain that pisses them off. People who only know and do what they are told often come to resent those who are smart enough to pick out their own way. They think it's our fault that they feel stupid. Of course it isn't; they could lose that stupid feeling by cracking open the occasional book, but that would be work. So much easier to attack those who "make" one look bad by comparison than it is to take corrective action. Plus, a can-do attitude towards one's own knowledge doesn't fit in real well with the rightwing cult of victimization. It can't be their fault that they are stupid, so it must be ours. Ergo, we are bad people.
The folks that truly hate Xmas are the ones that go into heavy debt to "celebrate" the birth of a "philosopher" whose philosophy would never accept the self-indulgence of the modern revellers. A true Xmas spirit would be one of forgiveness, of reaching out to the less fortunate. Presents should go to the poor and deserving, not to your brother-in-law who already has every damn thig he could desire. Nor should you feel guilty about a gift that didn't cost as much as the one you received last year. As an atheist, I enjoyed Xmas for its spirit of giving and kindness, now all but gone because of the horrible war criminals in charge, and the disgustingly greedy corporatists that extoll us to spend, spend, spend. What could be shallower or more self-serving than a failed oilman draftdodger finally appearing after hiding out for days during the 9/11 crisis and telling us to go shopping, to go to Disney World (in the state his lying asshole of a brother just managed to win for him)? The followers of George Bush and foolish biblical dogma are terrorists in and of themselves, proles and scatterbrains, with amoralism as their main value, and fear as their fuel. The America of Inhofe, Gingrich and Bush is the twin of the Germany of Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler, and headed down the same path, to defeat. Our glorious shining light of freedom is now sputtering for lack of democracy and common sense, while the media whores ignore the truth. The foolish handwringing and whining of those who excoriate Clinton for "decimating" the military should land them in asylums, where they will do no further harm to themselves of their country. We wouldn't be losing a war if we hadn't started one for no reason, plain and simple. Outlaw the Republican party, and things will start to improve. Outlaw the Democratic Party as well, and the improvement will accelerate. America is just like a drunk, having to hit rock bottom before starting the climb back into the light. Happy Holidays my ass.
The folks that truly hate Xmas are the ones that go into heavy debt to "celebrate" the birth of a "philosopher" whose philosophy would never accept the self-indulgence of the modern revellers. A true Xmas spirit would be one of forgiveness, of reaching out to the less fortunate. Presents should go to the poor and deserving, not to your brother-in-law who already has every damn thig he could desire. Nor should you feel guilty about a gift that didn't cost as much as the one you received last year. As an atheist, I enjoyed Xmas for its spirit of giving and kindness, now all but gone because of the horrible war criminals in charge, and the disgustingly greedy corporatists that extoll us to spend, spend, spend. What could be shallower or more self-serving than a failed oilman draftdodger finally appearing after hiding out for days during the 9/11 crisis and telling us to go shopping, to go to Disney World (in the state his lying asshole of a brother just managed to win for him)? The followers of George Bush and foolish biblical dogma are terrorists in and of themselves, proles and scatterbrains, with amoralism as their main value, and fear as their fuel. The America of Inhofe, Gingrich and Bush is the twin of the Germany of Hitler, Goebbels and Himmler, and headed down the same path, to defeat. Our glorious shining light of freedom is now sputtering for lack of democracy and common sense, while the media whores ignore the truth. The foolish handwringing and whining of those who excoriate Clinton for "decimating" the military should land them in asylums, where they will do no further harm to themselves of their country. We wouldn't be losing a war if we hadn't started one for no reason, plain and simple. Outlaw the Republican party, and things will start to improve. Outlaw the Democratic Party as well, and the improvement will accelerate. America is just like a drunk, having to hit rock bottom before starting the climb back into the light. Happy Holidays my ass.
Unfortunately, "elitism" is a technical term that does not imply that the elitists are actually elite.
Unfortunately, "elitism" is a technical term that does not imply that the elitists are actually elite.
Tena -- how's the M-I-L? Party tonight, or not?
Tena -- how's the M-I-L? Party tonight, or not?
Hey, you all need to lighten up on the first and frist posters. I know because I've only recently had my first two top-of-thread posts and I have to tell you that I have already increased my income by $3,000 a month and my sex life is just incredible now. I'm three sizes smaller at the waist, too, and I hear that I'm in the running for next year's Nobel Peace prize. All because I came here and got to be first...
Hey, you all need to lighten up on the first and frist posters. I know because I've only recently had my first two top-of-thread posts and I have to tell you that I have already increased my income by $3,000 a month and my sex life is just incredible now. I'm three sizes smaller at the waist, too, and I hear that I'm in the running for next year's Nobel Peace prize. All because I came here and got to be first...
Shouldn't they be setting the terms of the debate now; shouldn't they be saying, "What crisis?" now? I just don't get it, does anybody else?
The Dems are too busy imploding to come up with a coherent stratergery to competently deflect the RR's assault on the social saftey net.
Lets all face it here,we are without representation on the left.Our government si without remorse and has no use for anyone who seems to be for empathy.
Shouldn't they be setting the terms of the debate now; shouldn't they be saying, "What crisis?" now? I just don't get it, does anybody else?
The Dems are too busy imploding to come up with a coherent stratergery to competently deflect the RR's assault on the social saftey net.
Lets all face it here,we are without representation on the left.Our government si without remorse and has no use for anyone who seems to be for empathy.
...they never have to be bathed?
Not unless they've gotten stinky (like in a battle with a skunk), or you're giving them a flea bath.
You can get "pet wipes" at a pet store that are like gloves that you pet them with if you want to clean them up a little. You can also get a pet shampoo, if you're determined to try. I'd avoid Suave, as it might be too strong a detergent for the cat. If you're gonna use human shampoo, use baby shampoo (no more tears!)...
...they never have to be bathed?
Not unless they've gotten stinky (like in a battle with a skunk), or you're giving them a flea bath.
You can get "pet wipes" at a pet store that are like gloves that you pet them with if you want to clean them up a little. You can also get a pet shampoo, if you're determined to try. I'd avoid Suave, as it might be too strong a detergent for the cat. If you're gonna use human shampoo, use baby shampoo (no more tears!)...
Merry Christmas
Happy Hanukkah
Bona Saturnalia
Happy Yule
Happy Solstice
Anybody whose holiday I left out, hope you enjoy it. Anybody who doesn't have holidays, throw a party or go to one anyhow. It's a dark cold time all over the northern hemisphere so we all need some cheering up.
I just got email from my brother - my mother is in the hospital with respiratory problems. She's 83, has had several strokes, has congestive heart failure and breast cancer (she'll probably have surgery in the next couple months). Seems like several of us have aging parents/in-laws with medical problems right now.
Merry Christmas
Happy Hanukkah
Bona Saturnalia
Happy Yule
Happy Solstice
Anybody whose holiday I left out, hope you enjoy it. Anybody who doesn't have holidays, throw a party or go to one anyhow. It's a dark cold time all over the northern hemisphere so we all need some cheering up.
I just got email from my brother - my mother is in the hospital with respiratory problems. She's 83, has had several strokes, has congestive heart failure and breast cancer (she'll probably have surgery in the next couple months). Seems like several of us have aging parents/in-laws with medical problems right now.
Incog, I only tried to bathe a cat once. That was before someone told me to put a washcloth or hand towel in the bottom of the sink (so their paws don't slip) and only put about an inch of water in there. See how String reacts to it. And please run a video camera. 
And only if the cat gets out and crawls under the house and gets covered in dirt and cobwebs. Otherwise, it ain't worth the scars.
Tow
Incog, I only tried to bathe a cat once. That was before someone told me to put a washcloth or hand towel in the bottom of the sink (so their paws don't slip) and only put about an inch of water in there. See how String reacts to it. And please run a video camera.
And only if the cat gets out and crawls under the house and gets covered in dirt and cobwebs. Otherwise, it ain't worth the scars.
Tow
Ronjazz,
Amen!
Ronjazz,
Amen!
It's probably long past time now to refer to America as "The World's Conservative Evil Empire" or something similar.
One of the advantages and drawbacks to a blog like this is it attracts a huge number of intelligent visitors but with 300+ posts, it's not possible to have a focused serious discussion on the issues of the day. Just six to eight line snarky comments.
Oh well. Settle for what you can get, I guess.
It's probably long past time now to refer to America as "The World's Conservative Evil Empire" or something similar.
One of the advantages and drawbacks to a blog like this is it attracts a huge number of intelligent visitors but with 300+ posts, it's not possible to have a focused serious discussion on the issues of the day. Just six to eight line snarky comments.
Oh well. Settle for what you can get, I guess.
A diet change is likely the best way to improve coat glossiness.
A diet change is likely the best way to improve coat glossiness.
filkertom - party's on. Mother in law had a bad day yesterday and we were depressed. She just refused to wake up and respond to anyone.
Today she is much better. My husband was there this morning and she looked better and felt better and was talking and knows what's going on. She was fussing that I wouldn't be able to give the party and it would be her fault. I had a feeling yesterday that she was just mad that this happened. She can't pronounce some words right away, but she knows it and keeps trying until she gets it right.
We feel great today. Thanks so much for asking. This past week has been hellish for this Christmas hating liberal.
filkertom - party's on. Mother in law had a bad day yesterday and we were depressed. She just refused to wake up and respond to anyone.
Today she is much better. My husband was there this morning and she looked better and felt better and was talking and knows what's going on. She was fussing that I wouldn't be able to give the party and it would be her fault. I had a feeling yesterday that she was just mad that this happened. She can't pronounce some words right away, but she knows it and keeps trying until she gets it right.
We feel great today. Thanks so much for asking. This past week has been hellish for this Christmas hating liberal.
Oh, and for a shiny coat, two things: more salmon oil, which you can buy in a spritzer bottle at a pet store, and feed him a high quality wet food. Cheap dry foods are loaded with grains and cause the cat's scalp to dry out, causing dandruff, etc. Cats don't need grain, and even supposed "vet-recommended" foods, like IAMS and Science Diet, are loaded with them.
Cheap canned food can be just as bad, but if you don't want to spend a lot of money (and who does), Trader Joe's Cat Tuna is not bad and only 29 cents a can.
But to reiterate - a bath isn't necessarily going to give your cat a "shiny" coat, at least not for any appreciable amount of time, and is probably gonna cause you more injury than it!
Oh, and for a shiny coat, two things: more salmon oil, which you can buy in a spritzer bottle at a pet store, and feed him a high quality wet food. Cheap dry foods are loaded with grains and cause the cat's scalp to dry out, causing dandruff, etc. Cats don't need grain, and even supposed "vet-recommended" foods, like IAMS and Science Diet, are loaded with them.
Cheap canned food can be just as bad, but if you don't want to spend a lot of money (and who does), Trader Joe's Cat Tuna is not bad and only 29 cents a can.
But to reiterate - a bath isn't necessarily going to give your cat a "shiny" coat, at least not for any appreciable amount of time, and is probably gonna cause you more injury than it!
I just thought I'd do it this one time while he's still really small. I can handle him.
I just thought I'd do it this one time while he's still really small. I can handle him.
Incog - If you want to make his coat shinier, feed him a raw egg every few days for a month or so.
Don't bathe him. Not only is it completely unnecessary, as cats don't have any discernable body odor (unlike dogs), it will also wound his dignity.
Incog - If you want to make his coat shinier, feed him a raw egg every few days for a month or so.
Don't bathe him. Not only is it completely unnecessary, as cats don't have any discernable body odor (unlike dogs), it will also wound his dignity.
filker - they are moving her out of ICU today.
filker - they are moving her out of ICU today.
I can handle him.
Famous last words...
I can handle him.
Famous last words...
I'm a little too unemployed to feel particularly elitist.
Join the club, babe... thank God for those $25 royalty checks from Cafe Press!
I'm a little too unemployed to feel particularly elitist.
Join the club, babe... thank God for those $25 royalty checks from Cafe Press!
I predict Incognito will go ahead and try to bathe the cat, then come back here and claim he is a victim.
I predict Incognito will go ahead and try to bathe the cat, then come back here and claim he is a victim.
Jennifer -- thanks. I've been out of work since February, and I'm not in great shape to do retail, so I didn't get one of the quick&easy jobs. Unfortunately, what I did for the previous nine years was third-party document work for the mortgage industry, and, as a lot of that went in-house and the market tightened, a lot of the jobs simply went away. And a lot of the jobs that folks like me migrated too also went away. Sigh.
I'm actually almost making it on my music, and I'm trying to get some more product out as well as expanding my market. So we'll see.
And, yeah, the whole "elitist" thing makes me laugh, but I am an elitist by some narrow definitions. I (and certainly every regular here) have books on the shelf that my closest friends also have but our parents have never heard of; music of all genres, but more classical, show tunes, and folk than rock, and way more comedy than most people know exists; I use my computer for a hell of a lot more than work, e-mail, and solitaire; and I have toys -- not "adult" toys like executive putters & microminiature dart boards, but action figures and stuffed critters and the entire Burger King Lord of the Rings set from three years ago.
Dammit, there's so much more to life than work, TV, and Faux News. And most of it involves using your brain for more than the core of a hat rack.
Jennifer -- thanks. I've been out of work since February, and I'm not in great shape to do retail, so I didn't get one of the quick&easy jobs. Unfortunately, what I did for the previous nine years was third-party document work for the mortgage industry, and, as a lot of that went in-house and the market tightened, a lot of the jobs simply went away. And a lot of the jobs that folks like me migrated too also went away. Sigh.
I'm actually almost making it on my music, and I'm trying to get some more product out as well as expanding my market. So we'll see.
And, yeah, the whole "elitist" thing makes me laugh, but I am an elitist by some narrow definitions. I (and certainly every regular here) have books on the shelf that my closest friends also have but our parents have never heard of; music of all genres, but more classical, show tunes, and folk than rock, and way more comedy than most people know exists; I use my computer for a hell of a lot more than work, e-mail, and solitaire; and I have toys -- not "adult" toys like executive putters & microminiature dart boards, but action figures and stuffed critters and the entire Burger King Lord of the Rings set from three years ago.
Dammit, there's so much more to life than work, TV, and Faux News. And most of it involves using your brain for more than the core of a hat rack.
Incognito, the coat will get shinier in time. The proteins and oils you are feeding String will take a few months to turn out in his coat. Just be patient.
Incognito, the coat will get shinier in time. The proteins and oils you are feeding String will take a few months to turn out in his coat. Just be patient.
it will also wound his dignity.
Jennifer
OK,ok ok, I was just trying to make the situation better. He's been out in the wild for his entire life. I was thinking a little Suave wouldn't hurt.
it will also wound his dignity.
Jennifer
OK,ok ok, I was just trying to make the situation better. He's been out in the wild for his entire life. I was thinking a little Suave wouldn't hurt.
And re: the dry food:
A mixed diet of moist and dried food is best. Cats (non-domesticated ones anyway) typically get most of their water from their food. But feed some dry food too, it helps keep their teeth clean.
And re: the dry food:
A mixed diet of moist and dried food is best. Cats (non-domesticated ones anyway) typically get most of their water from their food. But feed some dry food too, it helps keep their teeth clean.
Tena-
I'm a bit late but I hope for the best for your MIL.
Hugs to you and Mr. Tena.
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Tena-
I'm a bit late but I hope for the best for your MIL.
Hugs to you and Mr. Tena.
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filkertom-
what's wrong with rock?
filkertom-
what's wrong with rock?
Tena, may your Yule be merry. It is the turning of the year and the renewal of life is on the way.
At least you're in a warmer part of the world, as I recall. The Solstice is gonna be pretty chilly in Kansas so dancing naked isn't really much fun.
I don't think my employer would be amused if I were to get busted for that, either... A couple days ago someone went on a rant about nudity and sex during that 24-hour abortion marathon and I so agreed.
Anyway, as I was saying before I got off on a rant of my own, I do hope your season is bright from here on.
Tena, may your Yule be merry. It is the turning of the year and the renewal of life is on the way.
At least you're in a warmer part of the world, as I recall. The Solstice is gonna be pretty chilly in Kansas so dancing naked isn't really much fun.
I don't think my employer would be amused if I were to get busted for that, either... A couple days ago someone went on a rant about nudity and sex during that 24-hour abortion marathon and I so agreed.
Anyway, as I was saying before I got off on a rant of my own, I do hope your season is bright from here on.
"Do you think that if a certain far-right US blog was being funded by, say, the Likud party, (or close friends thereof) that the blogger concerned has a moral duty to disclose that fact?
The Insider | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 2:44 pm | #"
Yes and no.
At least that is my opinion.
For the most part, readers should always take anything they read anywhere, here or there, with a grain of salt. To follow the words and/or writing of a blogger as if it were gospel is asking for trouble. I do think that if the far-right blog were merely trying to alter public opinion on everyday politics in general on a year-round basis then no. But if the intent was to sway the opinions of others just prior to an election or ballot initiative then yes, they should disclose. The first is more a matter of their right to hold an opinion. The later is their intent to alter the opinions of others.
Of course I'm sure others on this board have more to say and probably more informed insights on the issue.
MYOB'
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"Do you think that if a certain far-right US blog was being funded by, say, the Likud party, (or close friends thereof) that the blogger concerned has a moral duty to disclose that fact?
The Insider | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 2:44 pm | #"
Yes and no.
At least that is my opinion.
For the most part, readers should always take anything they read anywhere, here or there, with a grain of salt. To follow the words and/or writing of a blogger as if it were gospel is asking for trouble. I do think that if the far-right blog were merely trying to alter public opinion on everyday politics in general on a year-round basis then no. But if the intent was to sway the opinions of others just prior to an election or ballot initiative then yes, they should disclose. The first is more a matter of their right to hold an opinion. The later is their intent to alter the opinions of others.
Of course I'm sure others on this board have more to say and probably more informed insights on the issue.
MYOB'
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Jennifer - it wounds their dignity terribly and Incog, they don't forgive that quickly.
Plus I really don't think it's good for them. They have evolved their own system for keeping themselves clean and their coats and skins in optimum health. It really does dry out their skin if you bathe cats.
Tena -- oh, that's good news. Hugs all around.
Ahianne -- oh, that's bad news. Hugs all around. Yeah, my best friend's mom just went in October -- it was very quick, thank goodness, but even so just awful.
ATablaRasa --[snort][chuckle][guffaw]
dave -- yeah, I hope to get one of those soon. The 30-45 day wait time just makes it all the more piquant.
Spinoza -- no bet. Blood on the keyboard, my friend.
Jennifer - it wounds their dignity terribly and Incog, they don't forgive that quickly.
Plus I really don't think it's good for them. They have evolved their own system for keeping themselves clean and their coats and skins in optimum health. It really does dry out their skin if you bathe cats.
Tena -- oh, that's good news. Hugs all around.
Ahianne -- oh, that's bad news. Hugs all around. Yeah, my best friend's mom just went in October -- it was very quick, thank goodness, but even so just awful.
ATablaRasa --[snort][chuckle][guffaw]
dave -- yeah, I hope to get one of those soon. The 30-45 day wait time just makes it all the more piquant.
Spinoza -- no bet. Blood on the keyboard, my friend.
He doesn't like the canned soft food and wont eat it or go around it. He only likes the crunchy dry stuff.
He doesn't like the canned soft food and wont eat it or go around it. He only likes the crunchy dry stuff.
Cat blogging, not cat bathing.
Cat blogging, not cat bathing.
kissfan -- nothing whatsoever ('sfunny, I'm a KISS fan myself, first generation). I just happen to have purchased less of that kind of album than of the others, is all. Mind you, they're good ones -- lotsa Who and Billy Joel, Beatles, BNL, Meat Loaf, R.E.M., Joe Cocker, Steve Miller Band, Alice Cooper, Destroyer, and that one indispensible copy of Brain Salad Surgery....
kissfan -- nothing whatsoever ('sfunny, I'm a KISS fan myself, first generation). I just happen to have purchased less of that kind of album than of the others, is all. Mind you, they're good ones -- lotsa Who and Billy Joel, Beatles, BNL, Meat Loaf, R.E.M., Joe Cocker, Steve Miller Band, Alice Cooper, Destroyer, and that one indispensible copy of Brain Salad Surgery....
filkertom - actually, the job I'm getting ready to leave wasn't one of the "quick and easy". Some of my friends were giving me a hard time when I told them I was going to quit, saying, "You look and look and finally get a really good job and now you're going to quit?" My reply was that a job only qualifies as being "really good" if it both pays the bills and doesn't make you hate your life every waking moment. Pretty much everything else is a shit job.
So here's to hoping that you can pull together just that little bit more you need to make a living doing what you really enjoy. I'm in the same process myself at the moment - taking on this new job that's closer to my interests so I can tweak things here and there until I'm back doing my own thing.
filkertom - actually, the job I'm getting ready to leave wasn't one of the "quick and easy". Some of my friends were giving me a hard time when I told them I was going to quit, saying, "You look and look and finally get a really good job and now you're going to quit?" My reply was that a job only qualifies as being "really good" if it both pays the bills and doesn't make you hate your life every waking moment. Pretty much everything else is a shit job.
So here's to hoping that you can pull together just that little bit more you need to make a living doing what you really enjoy. I'm in the same process myself at the moment - taking on this new job that's closer to my interests so I can tweak things here and there until I'm back doing my own thing.
Hey Filkertom:
Did they have a rumor in your high
school about what Brain Salad Surgery
meant?
Hey Filkertom:
Did they have a rumor in your high
school about what Brain Salad Surgery
meant?
Tena - glad to hear the encouraging news about your mother-in-law. If she is already able to cast about and find the words she's looking for, the prognosis is probably for total or near total recovery. Merry Christmas!
Tena - glad to hear the encouraging news about your mother-in-law. If she is already able to cast about and find the words she's looking for, the prognosis is probably for total or near total recovery. Merry Christmas!
filkertom, while I'm not out of a job, and unlike Jennifer really do like both the majority of my work and the people I work with, I identify. My wife was out of work for 13 months before finding a job in Arizona. She started in October and I've been hunting ever since for a job there. I'm now a ghost at work because the boss is anticipating, correctly, that I'll be gone soon one way or the other and therefore has assigned all my tasks to others so they can learn them before I go.
Keeping up two houses is about to kill us, so I'm planning to quit and move anyway if something doesn't come soon.
filkertom, while I'm not out of a job, and unlike Jennifer really do like both the majority of my work and the people I work with, I identify. My wife was out of work for 13 months before finding a job in Arizona. She started in October and I've been hunting ever since for a job there. I'm now a ghost at work because the boss is anticipating, correctly, that I'll be gone soon one way or the other and therefore has assigned all my tasks to others so they can learn them before I go.
Keeping up two houses is about to kill us, so I'm planning to quit and move anyway if something doesn't come soon.
Elitists? They wouldn't know an elitist if a bunch of them took over the country in broad daylight.
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QuentinCompson
Ummmm, errr, isn't that who actually DID take over the country in broad daylight? just askin...
Elitists? They wouldn't know an elitist if a bunch of them took over the country in broad daylight.
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QuentinCompson
Ummmm, errr, isn't that who actually DID take over the country in broad daylight? just askin...
Perhaps Bill O'Reilly is overdoing his estrogen treatments?
I thought all the whining was something he attributed to liberals. Why is he getting so pissy? Is victimization a new republican theme?
Perhaps Bill O'Reilly is overdoing his estrogen treatments?
I thought all the whining was something he attributed to liberals. Why is he getting so pissy? Is victimization a new republican theme?
Incog - well, the dry stuff isn't bad for him; as noted it will really help keep his teeth free of tartar. Just make sure to keep lots of fresh water out for him.
And as for the bathing - cats get their vitamin D from grooming themselves. Weird, but somehow their fur or skin generates the vitamin when they lay in the sun. They ingest the vitamin by grooming themselves.
Incog - well, the dry stuff isn't bad for him; as noted it will really help keep his teeth free of tartar. Just make sure to keep lots of fresh water out for him.
And as for the bathing - cats get their vitamin D from grooming themselves. Weird, but somehow their fur or skin generates the vitamin when they lay in the sun. They ingest the vitamin by grooming themselves.
Jennifer - My thoughts exactly. Thanks.
and Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Good Solstice and Joyful Saturnalia to you, too. And Happy Kwanzaa, the holiday that Pat Robertson claims is a fraud and made up, while of course, god ordained Christmas to occur on December 25.
Jennifer - My thoughts exactly. Thanks.
and Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Good Solstice and Joyful Saturnalia to you, too. And Happy Kwanzaa, the holiday that Pat Robertson claims is a fraud and made up, while of course, god ordained Christmas to occur on December 25.
kissfan -- nothing whatsoever ('sfunny, I'm a KISS fan myself, first generation). I just happen to have purchased less of that kind of album than of the others, is all. Mind you, they're good ones -- lotsa Who and Billy Joel, Beatles, BNL, Meat Loaf, R.E.M., Joe Cocker, Steve Miller Band, Alice Cooper, Destroyer, and that one indispensible copy of Brain Salad Surgery....
filkertom | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 3:11 pm | #
The very first album I and my friends bought back in the mid-70s was Kiss Live I.
MYOB'
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kissfan -- nothing whatsoever ('sfunny, I'm a KISS fan myself, first generation). I just happen to have purchased less of that kind of album than of the others, is all. Mind you, they're good ones -- lotsa Who and Billy Joel, Beatles, BNL, Meat Loaf, R.E.M., Joe Cocker, Steve Miller Band, Alice Cooper, Destroyer, and that one indispensible copy of Brain Salad Surgery....
filkertom | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 3:11 pm | #
The very first album I and my friends bought back in the mid-70s was Kiss Live I.
MYOB'
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Weasel - Is victimization a new republican theme?
New? Baby, where you have you been? This is their entire raison d'etre.
Weasel - Is victimization a new republican theme?
New? Baby, where you have you been? This is their entire raison d'etre.
Jennifer, ATablaRasa -- again, thanks, and sympathies to you both for your respective grinds. It doth suck, trying and largely failing to enjoy something you have to do for one-third your adult life, don't it?
The last couple of years at my last job were hell on burnt toast, partly because until August '03 the real estate market was booming and we were doing twelve-hour days with no real break, and partly because management was mostly psychotic, including one woman who literally was playing all ends of the company against each other until one of the owners got wise and gave her the boot. So, honestly, while I need to pay the bills and I have been looking, if I can make things work at this stage I think I'll be a hell of a lot happier.
Steve -- I never heard any rumor about that. Granted, I was a real nerd boy and only other nerds talked to me. So, like what?
Jennifer, ATablaRasa -- again, thanks, and sympathies to you both for your respective grinds. It doth suck, trying and largely failing to enjoy something you have to do for one-third your adult life, don't it?
The last couple of years at my last job were hell on burnt toast, partly because until August '03 the real estate market was booming and we were doing twelve-hour days with no real break, and partly because management was mostly psychotic, including one woman who literally was playing all ends of the company against each other until one of the owners got wise and gave her the boot. So, honestly, while I need to pay the bills and I have been looking, if I can make things work at this stage I think I'll be a hell of a lot happier.
Steve -- I never heard any rumor about that. Granted, I was a real nerd boy and only other nerds talked to me. So, like what?
We are nowhere near "bonding" like everybody [talks] about. The little fucker acts like I'm his best friend in my lap licking himself but I'm the the big scary monster in the area over him to hide from under the bed from, usually. That's it.
We are nowhere near "bonding" like everybody [talks] about. The little fucker acts like I'm his best friend in my lap licking himself but I'm the the big scary monster in the area over him to hide from under the bed from, usually. That's it.
Konopelli, my point indeed; must have dropped my sarcastic irony tags somewhere.
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Konopelli, my point indeed; must have dropped my sarcastic irony tags somewhere.
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Ô¿Ô,
There's a lot of good information on cats and nutrition at this site.
Even though String likes dry food, it's because that's what he's accustomed to. Feeding dry food is quick and easy, but it's really not good for them.
Ô¿Ô,
There's a lot of good information on cats and nutrition at this site.
Even though String likes dry food, it's because that's what he's accustomed to. Feeding dry food is quick and easy, but it's really not good for them.
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
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Our old cat didn't mind being bathed. Make sure the water is warm, not too hot, and don't use too much shampoo because it's just hard to rinse out.
Someone suggested using a sprayer, and that's what we always did - just spray over directly on his coat so he doesn't get all splashed and mad.
Also, keep the soap and water action to the shoulders-down only so you don't get water in his eyes or ears.
Keeping treats onhand is a good idea, too. Then just wrap him in lots of towels and guide him to a warm spot to air dry.
He'll be fine
Fuck it, I'm going to bathe him with some Suave shampoo tonight.
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Our old cat didn't mind being bathed. Make sure the water is warm, not too hot, and don't use too much shampoo because it's just hard to rinse out.
Someone suggested using a sprayer, and that's what we always did - just spray over directly on his coat so he doesn't get all splashed and mad.
Also, keep the soap and water action to the shoulders-down only so you don't get water in his eyes or ears.
Keeping treats onhand is a good idea, too. Then just wrap him in lots of towels and guide him to a warm spot to air dry.
He'll be fine
And Happy Kwanzaa, the holiday that Pat Robertson claims is a fraud and made up, while of course, god ordained Christmas to occur on December 25.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 3:18 pm | #
Say wha?
Could you elaborate Tena?
I know Pat 'former alcoholic/had first child out of wedlock' Robertson badmouths just about everything but I never heard him go so far as to say Kwanzaa was both a fraud and a made up holiday?
MYOB'
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And Happy Kwanzaa, the holiday that Pat Robertson claims is a fraud and made up, while of course, god ordained Christmas to occur on December 25.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 3:18 pm | #
Say wha?
Could you elaborate Tena?
I know Pat 'former alcoholic/had first child out of wedlock' Robertson badmouths just about everything but I never heard him go so far as to say Kwanzaa was both a fraud and a made up holiday?
MYOB'
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I would like to proclaim, in front of all, that I am, indeed, a left-leaning liberal elitist. Of course, all you have to do to join my idea of an elite group is read, learn, think and discuss with others in a halfway rational manner.
Oddly enough, I don't think most of the people who complain about liberal elitists want to join my clique.
I would like to proclaim, in front of all, that I am, indeed, a left-leaning liberal elitist. Of course, all you have to do to join my idea of an elite group is read, learn, think and discuss with others in a halfway rational manner.
Oddly enough, I don't think most of the people who complain about liberal elitists want to join my clique.
MYOB' -- oh yeah. If you like that kinda music -- which I do, when I'm in the mood for it -- that is one of the best damn albums there is.
MYOB' -- oh yeah. If you like that kinda music -- which I do, when I'm in the mood for it -- that is one of the best damn albums there is.
Sod the democrats
Sod the democrats
Filkertom:
Actually, when Brain Salad Surgery
came out I was long past high school,
but my third ex-wife (from Mississippi)
told me that the rumor at her school
was that it was a euphemism for
fucking.
Who knows?
Filkertom:
Actually, when Brain Salad Surgery
came out I was long past high school,
but my third ex-wife (from Mississippi)
told me that the rumor at her school
was that it was a euphemism for
fucking.
Who knows?
You might try embedding the dry stuff in a little of the soft and slowly change the ratio. That worked for one of mine. But that was many years ago and cats may have evolved since then.
You might try embedding the dry stuff in a little of the soft and slowly change the ratio. That worked for one of mine. But that was many years ago and cats may have evolved since then.
...my point indeed; must have dropped my sarcastic irony tags somewhere.
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QuentinCompson %)I thought it might be...but irony has been getting pretty rough treatment lately, and so I thought it wise to take no chances...
...my point indeed; must have dropped my sarcastic irony tags somewhere.
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QuentinCompson %)I thought it might be...but irony has been getting pretty rough treatment lately, and so I thought it wise to take no chances...
All,
Book recommendation (i just got is as a gift): Under The Banner of Heaven, by John Krakauer.
It uses Mormon fundies as a jumping-off point to consider religious beliefs in general. i read it in two sessions.
It only confirmed (IMHO, 'natch) what i have believed since about my 14th church service; if you can buy the existence of a supernatural supreme bean, you can believe any damn thing if it suits you.
All,
Book recommendation (i just got is as a gift): Under The Banner of Heaven, by John Krakauer.
It uses Mormon fundies as a jumping-off point to consider religious beliefs in general. i read it in two sessions.
It only confirmed (IMHO, 'natch) what i have believed since about my 14th church service; if you can buy the existence of a supernatural supreme bean, you can believe any damn thing if it suits you.
euphemism for
fucking
?
Seems more like an anti-euphemism.
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euphemism for
fucking
?
Seems more like an anti-euphemism.
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Steve Simels--There was a rumor in my high school that Gene Simmons had a long cow tongue surgically atttached to his real tongue. About 2 years ago I saw an interview with Trent Reznor and the dumbass still believees it. He was talking about Simmonss' "dedication" to rock'n'roll, I kid you not.
Steve Simels--There was a rumor in my high school that Gene Simmons had a long cow tongue surgically atttached to his real tongue. About 2 years ago I saw an interview with Trent Reznor and the dumbass still believees it. He was talking about Simmonss' "dedication" to rock'n'roll, I kid you not.
"Of course I'm sure others on this board have more to say and probably more informed insights on the issue."
MYOB'
How about if they are relentlessly promoting the 'pro-war' case? And being paid to do so?
I have a very strong suspicion that a certain blog is paid for by far-right zionists and pro-war people. From their perspective, say they were kicking in 10,000 USD /month, it could be money 'well spent'.
The propaganda on this particular blog is just amazing. Remorseless.
"Of course I'm sure others on this board have more to say and probably more informed insights on the issue."
MYOB'
How about if they are relentlessly promoting the 'pro-war' case? And being paid to do so?
I have a very strong suspicion that a certain blog is paid for by far-right zionists and pro-war people. From their perspective, say they were kicking in 10,000 USD /month, it could be money 'well spent'.
The propaganda on this particular blog is just amazing. Remorseless.
Perhaps Bill O'Reilly is overdoing his estrogen treatments?
I thought all the whining was something he attributed to liberals. Why is he getting so pissy? Is victimization a new republican theme?
Tsk, tsk. Estrogen makes you glowing and happy and very smart. What O'Reilly is on is probably Viagra pills that have gone bad.
Perhaps Bill O'Reilly is overdoing his estrogen treatments?
I thought all the whining was something he attributed to liberals. Why is he getting so pissy? Is victimization a new republican theme?
Tsk, tsk. Estrogen makes you glowing and happy and very smart. What O'Reilly is on is probably Viagra pills that have gone bad.
BTW:
Anybody hear the new Beatles
remasters that just came out?
BTW:
Anybody hear the new Beatles
remasters that just came out?
Fuck it, I'm librul and I love Christmas.
But it's just ONE holiday in the Holiday Season which begins with Thanksgiving, then there's Hanukah, Solstice, Kwaanza, and yes, New Years Eve.
Sorry, but just saying "Merry Christmas" is not only inaccurate, it's going to get you excluded from a lot of ripper parties.
Fuck it, I'm librul and I love Christmas.
But it's just ONE holiday in the Holiday Season which begins with Thanksgiving, then there's Hanukah, Solstice, Kwaanza, and yes, New Years Eve.
Sorry, but just saying "Merry Christmas" is not only inaccurate, it's going to get you excluded from a lot of ripper parties.
cory-supreme bean? That would be one hell of a chili recipe.
cory-supreme bean? That would be one hell of a chili recipe.
MYOB, I saw that Robertson clip on The Daily Show (iirc).
Pat Robertson is one scary mofo.
Tow
MYOB, I saw that Robertson clip on The Daily Show (iirc).
Pat Robertson is one scary mofo.
Tow
Dad was a veterinarian. Trust me, a little of the dry stuff is a good thing. He always recommended the moist food for the bulk of the diet, with some dry thrown in for the teeth.
Dad was a veterinarian. Trust me, a little of the dry stuff is a good thing. He always recommended the moist food for the bulk of the diet, with some dry thrown in for the teeth.
Draco:
Who says you have to be smart to
play music?
Exhibit A: Ritchie Blackmore, who
is the real Nigel Tufnel.
Dumb as a sack of hammers.
Draco:
Who says you have to be smart to
play music?
Exhibit A: Ritchie Blackmore, who
is the real Nigel Tufnel.
Dumb as a sack of hammers.
cory, sounds interesting. It'd confirm mine, then, too, but being an elitist I am not surprised
filkertom, I've always thought ol' George woke up on Christmas morning, turned to Mary and said, "Dammit, Mar', the ol' Bailey Building and Loan is solvent, this place is finally paid for and Clarence got his wings. I'm leaving for Paris on the morning train. You coming?" Our first, best destiny may not pay as much in dollars, but every day that we don't pursue a dream is a day that we can't ever recover. Best of luck.
cory, sounds interesting. It'd confirm mine, then, too, but being an elitist I am not surprised
filkertom, I've always thought ol' George woke up on Christmas morning, turned to Mary and said, "Dammit, Mar', the ol' Bailey Building and Loan is solvent, this place is finally paid for and Clarence got his wings. I'm leaving for Paris on the morning train. You coming?" Our first, best destiny may not pay as much in dollars, but every day that we don't pursue a dream is a day that we can't ever recover. Best of luck.
MYOB - Pat Robertson was on TV mouthing off about Kwanzaa last week. I blogged it over at First-Draft, but it's long gone now. MediaMatters had a post about it, too.
MYOB - Pat Robertson was on TV mouthing off about Kwanzaa last week. I blogged it over at First-Draft, but it's long gone now. MediaMatters had a post about it, too.
And Happy Kwanzaa, the holiday that Pat Robertson claims is a fraud and made up, while of course, god ordained Christmas to occur on December 25.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 3:18 pm | #
Say wha?
Could you elaborate Tena?
I know Pat 'former alcoholic/had first child out of wedlock' Robertson badmouths just about everything but I never heard him go so far as to say Kwanzaa was both a fraud and a made up holiday?
MYOB'
FYI:
Rev. Pat Robertson: "Kwanzaa is an absolute fraud"
Reverend Pat Robertson called Kwanzaa "an absolute fraud" during the news segment of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club December 6.
After lamenting that "left wing educators, left-wing judges are stripping every vestige of our Christian heritage," Robertson, host and Christian Coalition of America founder, said: "Kwanzaa is an absolute fraud. You know, there was no festival in Africa called 'Kwanzaa.' I mean, it's made up by a bunch of hippie-types on the West Coast. I mean, it's not something that goes back to Africa. No way."
Kwanzaa is an African American holiday celebrated in African communities around the world. It was founded in 1966 by Maulana Karenga, professor and chair of the black studies department at California State University, Long Beach. The official Kwanzaa website notes that Karenga founded Kwanzaa as "an African American and Pan-African holiday" based on ancient African history and culture. Celebrated from December 26 through January 1, Kwanzaa is rooted in "the first harvest celebrations of Africa from which it takes its name." According to Karenga, "The name 'Kwanzaa' is derived from the phrase 'matunda ya kwanza' which means 'first fruits' in Swahili, a Pan-African language which is the most widely spoken African language." Karenga also notes that Kwanzaa "draws from the cultures of various African peoples, and is celebrated by millions of Africans throughout the world African community."
Which is funny, because of course Kwanzaa goes back to Africa with just about exactly the same fidelity as Christmas goes back to Palestine...
That is to say, none...
And Happy Kwanzaa, the holiday that Pat Robertson claims is a fraud and made up, while of course, god ordained Christmas to occur on December 25.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 3:18 pm | #
Say wha?
Could you elaborate Tena?
I know Pat 'former alcoholic/had first child out of wedlock' Robertson badmouths just about everything but I never heard him go so far as to say Kwanzaa was both a fraud and a made up holiday?
MYOB'
FYI:
Rev. Pat Robertson: "Kwanzaa is an absolute fraud"
Reverend Pat Robertson called Kwanzaa "an absolute fraud" during the news segment of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club December 6.
After lamenting that "left wing educators, left-wing judges are stripping every vestige of our Christian heritage," Robertson, host and Christian Coalition of America founder, said: "Kwanzaa is an absolute fraud. You know, there was no festival in Africa called 'Kwanzaa.' I mean, it's made up by a bunch of hippie-types on the West Coast. I mean, it's not something that goes back to Africa. No way."
Kwanzaa is an African American holiday celebrated in African communities around the world. It was founded in 1966 by Maulana Karenga, professor and chair of the black studies department at California State University, Long Beach. The official Kwanzaa website notes that Karenga founded Kwanzaa as "an African American and Pan-African holiday" based on ancient African history and culture. Celebrated from December 26 through January 1, Kwanzaa is rooted in "the first harvest celebrations of Africa from which it takes its name." According to Karenga, "The name 'Kwanzaa' is derived from the phrase 'matunda ya kwanza' which means 'first fruits' in Swahili, a Pan-African language which is the most widely spoken African language." Karenga also notes that Kwanzaa "draws from the cultures of various African peoples, and is celebrated by millions of Africans throughout the world African community."
Which is funny, because of course Kwanzaa goes back to Africa with just about exactly the same fidelity as Christmas goes back to Palestine...
That is to say, none...
Even though String likes dry food, it's because that's what he's accustomed to. Feeding dry food is quick and easy, but it's really not good for them.
Central Scrutinizer
TELL HIM THAT!!! HE WILL ONLY EAT THE CRUNCHY SHIT. PERIOD. I WALK BY AND I HEAR HIM CRUNCHING. THAT'S WHAT HE LIKES.
End of statement.
Even though String likes dry food, it's because that's what he's accustomed to. Feeding dry food is quick and easy, but it's really not good for them.
Central Scrutinizer
TELL HIM THAT!!! HE WILL ONLY EAT THE CRUNCHY SHIT. PERIOD. I WALK BY AND I HEAR HIM CRUNCHING. THAT'S WHAT HE LIKES.
End of statement.
Kwanzaa strikes me as the preachiest most no-fun holiday around with all those do-gooder vows you have to take. Exactly what you'd expect for a holiday invented by a social "scientist."
Kwanzaa strikes me as the preachiest most no-fun holiday around with all those do-gooder vows you have to take. Exactly what you'd expect for a holiday invented by a social "scientist."
TELL HIM THAT!!! HE WILL ONLY EAT THE CRUNCHY SHIT.
Ah, the victimhood begins.
TELL HIM THAT!!! HE WILL ONLY EAT THE CRUNCHY SHIT.
Ah, the victimhood begins.
"
U.S. Sen. James M. Inhofe said Thursday that cutbacks during the Clinton administration resulted in the lack of armor and other material faced by U.S. troops in Iraq.
"Eight years of Bill Clinton decimated the military to almost half of what it was in 1990," he said during a stop in Muskogee."
JESUS.
1989 - collapse of East/West German boundary.
1991 - Collapse of Soviet Union....
What part of END OF COLD WAR does this idiot not -not- understand, but DOESN'T REMEMBER???????????
Jesus. I'm going to go make pina colada muffins. These people are insane.
"
U.S. Sen. James M. Inhofe said Thursday that cutbacks during the Clinton administration resulted in the lack of armor and other material faced by U.S. troops in Iraq.
"Eight years of Bill Clinton decimated the military to almost half of what it was in 1990," he said during a stop in Muskogee."
JESUS.
1989 - collapse of East/West German boundary.
1991 - Collapse of Soviet Union....
What part of END OF COLD WAR does this idiot not -not- understand, but DOESN'T REMEMBER???????????
Jesus. I'm going to go make pina colada muffins. These people are insane.
Sod the democrats
The Fix Was In Kerry Threw It
Save me some for the back yard; the dogs have torn it up out there...
Sod the democrats
The Fix Was In Kerry Threw It
Save me some for the back yard; the dogs have torn it up out there...
Since we're all concerned with recognizing the multi-denominational character of the holiday season, I offer up to you the ultimate, classic multi-denominational holiday greeting courtesy of Alec Baldwin via SNL:
"During the Christmas season, I received many Christmas cards. Unfortunately, because I was so busy, I didn't have time to send out any myself. So, if I could, I'd like to use this as my Christmas card to everyone who was kind enough to send one to me.
[ puts Santa hat on his head and begins ]
"Dear Friend, or Relative, or Business Associate. Merry Christmas, or Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa, or Solstice, or Voodoo Day.
Boy, what a year it's been - me, with my acting, and, you doing whatever it is that you do. Thanks for the Christmas card, it was very beautiful, or humorous. I enjoyed the photo of your kid, or kids. Boy, he, or she, or they are really getting big. Have you seen our mutual friend, if we have one? Can you believe what he or she is up to? Boy, some people! Does your son, or daughter, or sister, or brother, or husband, or wife still have that drug problem? All you can do is trust in God, or, if you prefer, voodoo.
How is Granny, or Nana, or Mimi, or Yaya? So so? Hey, how about the professional sports team that we both root for? They should fire, or rehire that manager of theirs. He's a character!
Well, gotta go. By the way, sorry about throwing up on your carpet that time, or times. I hope you receive many presents from Santa, or Hanukkah Guy, or the Voodoo Man.. and that the coming year is as good as, or better than, or nothing like the last year.
Love, Alec."
Since we're all concerned with recognizing the multi-denominational character of the holiday season, I offer up to you the ultimate, classic multi-denominational holiday greeting courtesy of Alec Baldwin via SNL:
"During the Christmas season, I received many Christmas cards. Unfortunately, because I was so busy, I didn't have time to send out any myself. So, if I could, I'd like to use this as my Christmas card to everyone who was kind enough to send one to me.
[ puts Santa hat on his head and begins ]
"Dear Friend, or Relative, or Business Associate. Merry Christmas, or Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa, or Solstice, or Voodoo Day.
Boy, what a year it's been - me, with my acting, and, you doing whatever it is that you do. Thanks for the Christmas card, it was very beautiful, or humorous. I enjoyed the photo of your kid, or kids. Boy, he, or she, or they are really getting big. Have you seen our mutual friend, if we have one? Can you believe what he or she is up to? Boy, some people! Does your son, or daughter, or sister, or brother, or husband, or wife still have that drug problem? All you can do is trust in God, or, if you prefer, voodoo.
How is Granny, or Nana, or Mimi, or Yaya? So so? Hey, how about the professional sports team that we both root for? They should fire, or rehire that manager of theirs. He's a character!
Well, gotta go. By the way, sorry about throwing up on your carpet that time, or times. I hope you receive many presents from Santa, or Hanukkah Guy, or the Voodoo Man.. and that the coming year is as good as, or better than, or nothing like the last year.
Love, Alec."
Pat Robertson has a little dick and never gets any.
Pat Robertson has a little dick and never gets any.
Incog - Listen to Jennifer - the dry is good for his teeth. I had one cat whose teeth went totally bad before he died. You don't want that to happen.
Don't worry about String so much - cats are the hardiest pets you can have, practically. They heal themselves, clean themselves and pretty much know what they need to keep themselves in shape.
Really. They are not dependent like dogs are.
Incog - Listen to Jennifer - the dry is good for his teeth. I had one cat whose teeth went totally bad before he died. You don't want that to happen.
Don't worry about String so much - cats are the hardiest pets you can have, practically. They heal themselves, clean themselves and pretty much know what they need to keep themselves in shape.
Really. They are not dependent like dogs are.
Tell ya, if String has to pull the cruchy stuff out of the other and gets used to the taste, he'll start eating it. Not the first day, or the first week, maybe. Depends on how stubborn your cat is, but also how stubborn you are.
Tell ya, if String has to pull the cruchy stuff out of the other and gets used to the taste, he'll start eating it. Not the first day, or the first week, maybe. Depends on how stubborn your cat is, but also how stubborn you are.
Stinky-Pat Robertson IS a (tiny) dick.
Stinky-Pat Robertson IS a (tiny) dick.
Konopelli - thanks for posting that Pat Robertson story - I was too lazy to go retrieve it myself.
Konopelli - thanks for posting that Pat Robertson story - I was too lazy to go retrieve it myself.
I don't mean to be a downer (too late!) but I'm bugged by the right.
They got the White House; they got the Senate; they got the House O'Reps, they pretty much got the Supreme Court; and they got a lapdog media.
Yet they're angrier than ever.
I'm starting to think Incog has been right all along.
I don't mean to be a downer (too late!) but I'm bugged by the right.
They got the White House; they got the Senate; they got the House O'Reps, they pretty much got the Supreme Court; and they got a lapdog media.
Yet they're angrier than ever.
I'm starting to think Incog has been right all along.
Let's all write letters to the editor and insist that as Pagans we're deeply offended that store employees don't wish as a "Happy Saturnalia."
I was just happy yesterday, visiting my GYN, to see a Happy Hanukkah thing strung across the window. Nice to see something DIFFERENT.
Cat-bathing: Naw. No. String might like the warm cloth thing, though. I use small-sized towels, wet & warm them gently in the microwave, and wrap my big baby (the shedder with all the dander) in it. She likes it until it gets clammy. Helps get rid of a lot of stuff. Shiny coats (or lack of) really do vary from cat to cat, and with diet.
But bathing: No. I'm trying to figure out how to slip Big Cat a Klonopin (I looked up the right dosage) so she'll be too sleepy to try to kill me when I merely try to trim her damn CLAWS. Incog, er, Face-Icon Guy, start that EARLY -- and make a habit NOW of playing with String's paws a lot so he doesn't immediately freak every time you hold one in preparation for claw-trimming.
Filkertom: I got a notice saying my Atriots mug is on the way. But why would CafePress be shipping the mug "in two packages"? This scares me. I prefer one-piece mugs.
Let's all write letters to the editor and insist that as Pagans we're deeply offended that store employees don't wish as a "Happy Saturnalia."
I was just happy yesterday, visiting my GYN, to see a Happy Hanukkah thing strung across the window. Nice to see something DIFFERENT.
Cat-bathing: Naw. No. String might like the warm cloth thing, though. I use small-sized towels, wet & warm them gently in the microwave, and wrap my big baby (the shedder with all the dander) in it. She likes it until it gets clammy. Helps get rid of a lot of stuff. Shiny coats (or lack of) really do vary from cat to cat, and with diet.
But bathing: No. I'm trying to figure out how to slip Big Cat a Klonopin (I looked up the right dosage) so she'll be too sleepy to try to kill me when I merely try to trim her damn CLAWS. Incog, er, Face-Icon Guy, start that EARLY -- and make a habit NOW of playing with String's paws a lot so he doesn't immediately freak every time you hold one in preparation for claw-trimming.
Filkertom: I got a notice saying my Atriots mug is on the way. But why would CafePress be shipping the mug "in two packages"? This scares me. I prefer one-piece mugs.
ATablaRasa -
Sell the house and move to Arizona. Everybody else does, you might as well too. Try and get a job out here - be aware you'll probably be hired before I will, 'cause that's the AZ karma. Nevertheless, being with your mate at 75F is a lot better than losing your shirt back east at some ungodly cold temperature. AZ's okay. Try not to live too far on the west side of town. Or north. Or east. South is good. Also Central.
ATablaRasa -
Sell the house and move to Arizona. Everybody else does, you might as well too. Try and get a job out here - be aware you'll probably be hired before I will, 'cause that's the AZ karma. Nevertheless, being with your mate at 75F is a lot better than losing your shirt back east at some ungodly cold temperature. AZ's okay. Try not to live too far on the west side of town. Or north. Or east. South is good. Also Central.
steve -- never heard that. Heh. I like it.
ATablaRasa -- and I really like that. Thanks. It's closer to working than not, which surprises me, but I could get used to it.
Sorry I took so long to reply -- I just had to go off on the Pope and his big mouth. Click on the homepage for my snarling.
steve -- never heard that. Heh. I like it.
ATablaRasa -- and I really like that. Thanks. It's closer to working than not, which surprises me, but I could get used to it.
Sorry I took so long to reply -- I just had to go off on the Pope and his big mouth. Click on the homepage for my snarling.
Absolutely disgusting..
"Of COURSE Torture Works You Hyper-Sensitive Dumbasses!"
Over on Kos' (Click homepage for link)
"Nothing bugs me more than the people who claim to support the war but who fly off the handle, consumed by some sort of sick grief, when discussing a few "tortured" terrorists. At least the people opposed to war have an excuse for weeping like babies for the enemies of freedom: they're already openly on the same side."
Adam Yoshida is such pathetic piece of shit. This is a classic case of denial, "It will never happen to me.." So they don't bother caring. The same mentality goes along with the 'If you're not guilty you have nothing to fear' rhetoric.
This dumbass has *no* understanding of history enough to understand that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
What a moron.
MYOB'
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Absolutely disgusting..
"Of COURSE Torture Works You Hyper-Sensitive Dumbasses!"
Over on Kos' (Click homepage for link)
"Nothing bugs me more than the people who claim to support the war but who fly off the handle, consumed by some sort of sick grief, when discussing a few "tortured" terrorists. At least the people opposed to war have an excuse for weeping like babies for the enemies of freedom: they're already openly on the same side."
Adam Yoshida is such pathetic piece of shit. This is a classic case of denial, "It will never happen to me.." So they don't bother caring. The same mentality goes along with the 'If you're not guilty you have nothing to fear' rhetoric.
This dumbass has *no* understanding of history enough to understand that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
What a moron.
MYOB'
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I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
Silleigh -- wtf? No idea.
Silleigh -- wtf? No idea.
Yes, we do so hate the freedom of being told what to think and say.
Yes, we do so hate the freedom of being told what to think and say.
AAFC, don't forget the extended cat blogging! Hate and cat care, a combination you can never go wrong with!
AAFC, don't forget the extended cat blogging! Hate and cat care, a combination you can never go wrong with!
Just hate. Hate for Bush
Umm. yeah?
(Sorry. It's so cute. Can I keep him?)
.
Just hate. Hate for Bush
Umm. yeah?
(Sorry. It's so cute. Can I keep him?)
.
Incognito, I had a cat years ago that I had to bathe because my small son was terribly allergic, but hopelessly in love with him (washing prevents buildup of saliva on their fur, which is the allergic agent). It's true they don't need to be bathed, but if you start when they are very young, do it with sensitivity to their aversion to water, and make it a regular thing, they will get used to it and actually come to like it, just like us. The adult Cecil (the cat) hated being dirty and would come and ask for his fortnightly bath. Keep the water away from his face and ears, and q-tip any water out of his ears when you dry him.
Man, people have very strong opinions on this. Who'da thought?
Incognito, I had a cat years ago that I had to bathe because my small son was terribly allergic, but hopelessly in love with him (washing prevents buildup of saliva on their fur, which is the allergic agent). It's true they don't need to be bathed, but if you start when they are very young, do it with sensitivity to their aversion to water, and make it a regular thing, they will get used to it and actually come to like it, just like us. The adult Cecil (the cat) hated being dirty and would come and ask for his fortnightly bath. Keep the water away from his face and ears, and q-tip any water out of his ears when you dry him.
Man, people have very strong opinions on this. Who'da thought?
I'm really fucking fed up with the trolls constantly saying we're the ones with hatred.
You fuckwit - I would be willing to bet that you are from LGF - the original Blog of Hate. Or maybe the Rottweiler, or the guy who has the blog called RemedialCruelty. Yeah, the left is full of similar sentiments, I've noticed in all the blogs on the left that are called Kill the Right and Let'sTorturePeople.
Go back there and spend your time hating on us because we want to steal Christmas from you and lock it up where you can't get it. Please. This projection is just absurd.
I'm really fucking fed up with the trolls constantly saying we're the ones with hatred.
You fuckwit - I would be willing to bet that you are from LGF - the original Blog of Hate. Or maybe the Rottweiler, or the guy who has the blog called RemedialCruelty. Yeah, the left is full of similar sentiments, I've noticed in all the blogs on the left that are called Kill the Right and Let'sTorturePeople.
Go back there and spend your time hating on us because we want to steal Christmas from you and lock it up where you can't get it. Please. This projection is just absurd.
I'm a victim. I'm a victim. You elitist liberals are so mean. I'm going home to eat chocolate chip cookies and milk. I'm a victim.
I'm a victim. I'm a victim. You elitist liberals are so mean. I'm going home to eat chocolate chip cookies and milk. I'm a victim.
MYOB -- well... it's Adam. His blog is no fun at all anymore since he got rid of comments (which I presume he did because He Won -- not his side, HE Won and now he wanted to gloat without everyone pointing out in stark detail and with numerous citations exactly how full of swine shit he really is).
He truly is a Bush voter all the way -- or, he would be, if he was even American. Vast evil, cluelessness, and self-righteousness in one sociopathic lump.
A day without Adam Y. is like a day with sunshine.
MYOB -- well... it's Adam. His blog is no fun at all anymore since he got rid of comments (which I presume he did because He Won -- not his side, HE Won and now he wanted to gloat without everyone pointing out in stark detail and with numerous citations exactly how full of swine shit he really is).
He truly is a Bush voter all the way -- or, he would be, if he was even American. Vast evil, cluelessness, and self-righteousness in one sociopathic lump.
A day without Adam Y. is like a day with sunshine.
GWPDA, wife's in Mesa, so east side is very likely, but I do like the idea of seeing the mountains up close. I had the misfortune to buy a manufactured home just before the bottom fell out, so I'm looking right now at dragging the house out there and planting it. See if it grows. I hear the low on Tuesday is supposed to be 11 here, so 75 sounds positively toasty.
GWPDA, wife's in Mesa, so east side is very likely, but I do like the idea of seeing the mountains up close. I had the misfortune to buy a manufactured home just before the bottom fell out, so I'm looking right now at dragging the house out there and planting it. See if it grows. I hear the low on Tuesday is supposed to be 11 here, so 75 sounds positively toasty.
mena - I can see bathing a cat with allergies. You have to when they have those allergies that cause them to lose hair in patches and have rough skin.
Otherwise, there is no reason to bathe a cat and they hate it. I just can't see doing it without a reason since it isn't necessary and they hate it. They don't hate it for nothing, is what I think.
mena - I can see bathing a cat with allergies. You have to when they have those allergies that cause them to lose hair in patches and have rough skin.
Otherwise, there is no reason to bathe a cat and they hate it. I just can't see doing it without a reason since it isn't necessary and they hate it. They don't hate it for nothing, is what I think.
Re: "Christmas"
In every culture which takes note of the Winter Solstice--which is to say, every single, solitary one since the dawn of man--there is a civic/social ceremony on the theme of "the festival of lights." This ceremony demarcates the return of the sun, the lengthening of days, and rebirth (literally) of "Light."
The mythology of "christmas" was lifted pretty much intact from the pre-Xian Roman festival celebrating the martial god of the Roman Legions, Mithras. The timing was decided upon to countervail and/or coopt the Roman Saturnalia feast (link)
Re: "Christmas"
In every culture which takes note of the Winter Solstice--which is to say, every single, solitary one since the dawn of man--there is a civic/social ceremony on the theme of "the festival of lights." This ceremony demarcates the return of the sun, the lengthening of days, and rebirth (literally) of "Light."
The mythology of "christmas" was lifted pretty much intact from the pre-Xian Roman festival celebrating the martial god of the Roman Legions, Mithras. The timing was decided upon to countervail and/or coopt the Roman Saturnalia feast (link)
You liberals think you are very funny now, you will not be so laughing when you are arrested for crimes against the state like sedition and treason. We who are loyal to the US and to Bush have nothing to fear, but you do. Which is why you are all soooo scared of this happening. I can't wait.
You liberals think you are very funny now, you will not be so laughing when you are arrested for crimes against the state like sedition and treason. We who are loyal to the US and to Bush have nothing to fear, but you do. Which is why you are all soooo scared of this happening. I can't wait.
American Action Figure - tell us again about how the liberals are the "thought police."
American Action Figure - tell us again about how the liberals are the "thought police."
"I was just happy yesterday, visiting my GYN, to see a Happy Hanukkah thing strung across the window. Nice to see something DIFFERENT."
I've seen plenty of 'Happy Hanukkah' signs as well as 'Happy Holidays' or 'Season's Greetings,' and nobody was complaining. The entire fiasco is being made up by the media since there are no more murder trials to cover. Most of my southern baptist family members agree. They've always considered 'Happy Holidays' as being meant to cover both christmas and new years since they're just one week apart. My uncle's former hardware store use to have 'Happy holidays' signs up along with an xmas tree, a star of david with menorah, and he's as close to a neocon as they come. He never complained.
The whole thing is a made up controversy by political christian conservatives to try and push more of their agenda and the damned media is sucking it up like kids with candy.
MYOB'
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"I was just happy yesterday, visiting my GYN, to see a Happy Hanukkah thing strung across the window. Nice to see something DIFFERENT."
I've seen plenty of 'Happy Hanukkah' signs as well as 'Happy Holidays' or 'Season's Greetings,' and nobody was complaining. The entire fiasco is being made up by the media since there are no more murder trials to cover. Most of my southern baptist family members agree. They've always considered 'Happy Holidays' as being meant to cover both christmas and new years since they're just one week apart. My uncle's former hardware store use to have 'Happy holidays' signs up along with an xmas tree, a star of david with menorah, and he's as close to a neocon as they come. He never complained.
The whole thing is a made up controversy by political christian conservatives to try and push more of their agenda and the damned media is sucking it up like kids with candy.
MYOB'
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It's not worth it, Tena. The cognitive dissonance that shudders through the right half of the blogosphere is terrifying yet amusing.
Just consider Exhibit A. They are still ragging on Bill Clinton.
But we are the ones filled with hate.
They're the people of the land. The common clay of the new world. You know.
Morons.
It's not worth it, Tena. The cognitive dissonance that shudders through the right half of the blogosphere is terrifying yet amusing.
Just consider Exhibit A. They are still ragging on Bill Clinton.
But we are the ones filled with hate.
They're the people of the land. The common clay of the new world. You know.
Morons.
"I had the misfortune to buy a manufactured home just before the bottom fell out, so I'm looking right now at dragging the house out there and planting it. See if it grows."
Don't.
Do.
This.
This is the 5th largest metropolitan area in the country. You can't just put a house down. Altho Mesa, as a Mormon town, does not permit stuff like zoning, even they will disapprove of you just sort of plopping down a large piece of metal somewhere.
Mountains up close? We have mountains? We have some lumps, but mountains, not so much. You may have us confused with Tierra Encantanda, which you will see as you proceed West. Us? Sonoran Desert. Mostly.
If you live in the center of Phoenix you are no more than maybe fifteen miles in any direction to everywhere else. You also have a shot at living in a real place, with good Chinese restaurants, libraries, transportation, intelligent civic administration and reasonable prices. But it's up to you.
"I had the misfortune to buy a manufactured home just before the bottom fell out, so I'm looking right now at dragging the house out there and planting it. See if it grows."
Don't.
Do.
This.
This is the 5th largest metropolitan area in the country. You can't just put a house down. Altho Mesa, as a Mormon town, does not permit stuff like zoning, even they will disapprove of you just sort of plopping down a large piece of metal somewhere.
Mountains up close? We have mountains? We have some lumps, but mountains, not so much. You may have us confused with Tierra Encantanda, which you will see as you proceed West. Us? Sonoran Desert. Mostly.
If you live in the center of Phoenix you are no more than maybe fifteen miles in any direction to everywhere else. You also have a shot at living in a real place, with good Chinese restaurants, libraries, transportation, intelligent civic administration and reasonable prices. But it's up to you.
I said I was leaving but,I'm still around because you are all so hate-filled toward Our Leader and toward God's only son, NASCAR.
I said I was leaving but,I'm still around because you are all so hate-filled toward Our Leader and toward God's only son, NASCAR.
AmericanActionblahblahblah -
Come right on over to my house right now and see about taking me in for sedition, you dickless wonder. I would love it.
Just come right on. Please.
AmericanActionblahblahblah -
Come right on over to my house right now and see about taking me in for sedition, you dickless wonder. I would love it.
Just come right on. Please.
AmericanAction FigNewton-Try saying that without Liddy Dole sitting on your face.
AmericanAction FigNewton-Try saying that without Liddy Dole sitting on your face.
AmericanActionWhatever:
Does the phrase shit for brains
mean anything to you?
AmericanActionWhatever:
Does the phrase shit for brains
mean anything to you?
That 44% who wants Muslims followed is most likely ALL and the same who voted for bu$h 11-2-04
.....but with a little help from that super high tech computer program bought with the missing Iraq oil money, the end result was 51%, enough to keep the money train rolling for the thugs.
That 44% who wants Muslims followed is most likely ALL and the same who voted for bu$h 11-2-04
.....but with a little help from that super high tech computer program bought with the missing Iraq oil money, the end result was 51%, enough to keep the money train rolling for the thugs.
Shit - you're a parody.
Damn, and I was so looking forward to having you come and try to take me away. I really was. What a disappointment.
Shit - you're a parody.
Damn, and I was so looking forward to having you come and try to take me away. I really was. What a disappointment.
Come right on over to my house right now and see about taking me in for sedition, you dickless wonder. I would love it.
How embarrassing. You gonna kick his ass, tena?
Come right on over to my house right now and see about taking me in for sedition, you dickless wonder. I would love it.
How embarrassing. You gonna kick his ass, tena?
Hey Bebe:
Just wondering -- how did this whole
Liddy Dole obsessesion start?
It's funny as hell, don't get me
wrong, but I'm curious.
Hey Bebe:
Just wondering -- how did this whole
Liddy Dole obsessesion start?
It's funny as hell, don't get me
wrong, but I'm curious.
Oh, and ATablaRasa - we do have one really significant mountain, almost - Piestewa Peak. I look at it from my front yard, it's about 8 blocks away. In the middle of town. Also, the Camelback, right next to it. Voila, mountains.
Oh, and ATablaRasa - we do have one really significant mountain, almost - Piestewa Peak. I look at it from my front yard, it's about 8 blocks away. In the middle of town. Also, the Camelback, right next to it. Voila, mountains.
Zionism is racism! End state terror! End all war everywhere!!
Zionism is racism! End state terror! End all war everywhere!!
You liberals think you are very funny now, you will not be so laughing when you are arrested for crimes against the state like sedition and treason.
And I soooooo want to encourage you to come to Albuquerque and serve my warrant personally. Please, o please, o pretty pretty please show your fat ass up on my doorstep with a sedition warrant.
Be sure it's on a nice, aborbent sanitary napkin that you can slap over the sucking chest wound that will directly thereafter appear on your cowardly, feculent carcass while you're waiting for the ambulance...or the hearse...
Bring it, shitwipe...just bring it...
You liberals think you are very funny now, you will not be so laughing when you are arrested for crimes against the state like sedition and treason.
And I soooooo want to encourage you to come to Albuquerque and serve my warrant personally. Please, o please, o pretty pretty please show your fat ass up on my doorstep with a sedition warrant.
Be sure it's on a nice, aborbent sanitary napkin that you can slap over the sucking chest wound that will directly thereafter appear on your cowardly, feculent carcass while you're waiting for the ambulance...or the hearse...
Bring it, shitwipe...just bring it...
How do you bathe a cat? They're wild-eyed about it and they have claws.
Ô¿Ô | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 2:35 pm | #
In over fifty years of owning cats I only tried to bathe one, and that was because he had dirtied himself on the way back from the vet.
As long as he is grooming himself and doesn't smell, leave him alone. Once he gets all those good vitamins circulating his coat will get shiney.
How do you bathe a cat? They're wild-eyed about it and they have claws.
Ô¿Ô | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 2:35 pm | #
In over fifty years of owning cats I only tried to bathe one, and that was because he had dirtied himself on the way back from the vet.
As long as he is grooming himself and doesn't smell, leave him alone. Once he gets all those good vitamins circulating his coat will get shiney.
A day without Adam Y. is like a day with sunshine.
filkertom | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 3:53 pm | #
Too true.
It's like these people have absolutely no ability to think deeply at all?
It's funny how they'll rush to defend the constitution's stated right to own guns but then rush in the opposite direction when it comes to protecting the very laws that protect the other rights included.
In the end the whole thing seems to come down to hypocritical love of violence. They love it when it happens to someone else, get pissed off when those on the receiving end start to fight back, then demand their right to do the same damned thing!
Madness.
MYOB'
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A day without Adam Y. is like a day with sunshine.
filkertom | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 3:53 pm | #
Too true.
It's like these people have absolutely no ability to think deeply at all?
It's funny how they'll rush to defend the constitution's stated right to own guns but then rush in the opposite direction when it comes to protecting the very laws that protect the other rights included.
In the end the whole thing seems to come down to hypocritical love of violence. They love it when it happens to someone else, get pissed off when those on the receiving end start to fight back, then demand their right to do the same damned thing!
Madness.
MYOB'
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That's it.
Some "liberals" think it's funny to play "right-winger". The whole "meta-" thing.
Cut it out. You're not funny.
.
That's it.
Some "liberals" think it's funny to play "right-winger". The whole "meta-" thing.
Cut it out. You're not funny.
.
He'll have a blue Christnas without her.
He wanted so badly to screw her.
When she told him, "Get lost," he was thrown for a loop.
That's why he threw all that chimpanzee poop.
He thought a 'Sleeze blowjob was certain,
And now his Chimp blue balls are hurtin'.
She'll be doing all right, with her knees locked up tight,
But he'll have a blue, blue Christmas.
He'll have a blue Christnas without her.
He wanted so badly to screw her.
When she told him, "Get lost," he was thrown for a loop.
That's why he threw all that chimpanzee poop.
He thought a 'Sleeze blowjob was certain,
And now his Chimp blue balls are hurtin'.
She'll be doing all right, with her knees locked up tight,
But he'll have a blue, blue Christmas.
Thanks, filkertom. You may have actually met my mother - she and my father came to cons back when their health was better. They got to a couple of Marcons and several InCon Junctions.
Tena - I mentioned your mother-in-law in the usual after-practice choir prayers. Can't hurt.
Oh, yeah, happy Kwanzaa. I knew there was something missing from my holiday wishes. And of course it's made up - they all are.
Thanks, filkertom. You may have actually met my mother - she and my father came to cons back when their health was better. They got to a couple of Marcons and several InCon Junctions.
Tena - I mentioned your mother-in-law in the usual after-practice choir prayers. Can't hurt.
Oh, yeah, happy Kwanzaa. I knew there was something missing from my holiday wishes. And of course it's made up - they all are.
Not the peasants we mercilessly slaughtered in Fallujah.
"peasants?" Exqueeze me?
Not the peasants we mercilessly slaughtered in Fallujah.
"peasants?" Exqueeze me?
......but with a little help from that super high tech computer program bought with the missing Iraq oil money, the end result was 51%, enough to keep the money train rolling for the thugs.
June has hammered that nail in all the way with one stroke.
......but with a little help from that super high tech computer program bought with the missing Iraq oil money, the end result was 51%, enough to keep the money train rolling for the thugs.
June has hammered that nail in all the way with one stroke.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
American Action Freedom Champi
How about it? This the funniest post on Eschaton yet this year?
The Nazis are scared, they've got control of the government and are about to discover what they fear, that the majority of the people hate their program. The disasters are all going to be on their pointy little heads. And the disasters are going to make the great depression and WWII (you know the one in the Tom Hanks move, Trolls) look like minor inconveniences.
THEN, oh THEN.... We will re-write the constitution to make it a truly democratic document, we will get rid of the phony feudal-federalism that has kept the country a backwards empire. We will even get rid of local school boards and private health insurance.
Trolls will all be sent to mandatory night-school.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
American Action Freedom Champi
How about it? This the funniest post on Eschaton yet this year?
The Nazis are scared, they've got control of the government and are about to discover what they fear, that the majority of the people hate their program. The disasters are all going to be on their pointy little heads. And the disasters are going to make the great depression and WWII (you know the one in the Tom Hanks move, Trolls) look like minor inconveniences.
THEN, oh THEN.... We will re-write the constitution to make it a truly democratic document, we will get rid of the phony feudal-federalism that has kept the country a backwards empire. We will even get rid of local school boards and private health insurance.
Trolls will all be sent to mandatory night-school.
You do not understand a thing. Such children, with no respect for their elders OR betters. Only media bias and hatred for freedom. Well, the Great Roundup is coming, as soon as the next terror attack your so-called freedom to bad mouth America and comfort her enemies will come to a screeching halt. I can't wait. Your evil will be punished.
You do not understand a thing. Such children, with no respect for their elders OR betters. Only media bias and hatred for freedom. Well, the Great Roundup is coming, as soon as the next terror attack your so-called freedom to bad mouth America and comfort her enemies will come to a screeching halt. I can't wait. Your evil will be punished.
June has hammered that nail in all the way with one stroke.
So it is now the position of the regulars on this blog that Bush stole THIS election as well!!????
Sweet merciful Jesus. Please save the Democratic Party from these lunatics. This is my Christmas wish.
June has hammered that nail in all the way with one stroke.
So it is now the position of the regulars on this blog that Bush stole THIS election as well!!????
Sweet merciful Jesus. Please save the Democratic Party from these lunatics. This is my Christmas wish.
Ahianne - thank you for the prayers. All good wishes and thoughts are forces for good in this universe. I appreciate it very much. And she's much better today, so you really helped us.
Ahianne - thank you for the prayers. All good wishes and thoughts are forces for good in this universe. I appreciate it very much. And she's much better today, so you really helped us.
Ô¿Ô, if you're still around. I'm late to the game here. Had to do some work this afternoon and banned myself from the internets for as long as I could stand.
I recommend a nice kitty brush and no bath. Brings oils to the surface, plus gets rid of all that cat hair that covers the sofa. Voila! Shiny coat. And cats love to be brushed.
I'm with you. Good dry food only. Took my cat off of canned food a long time ago. Causes diarebba (at least in my cat's case).
Ô¿Ô, if you're still around. I'm late to the game here. Had to do some work this afternoon and banned myself from the internets for as long as I could stand.
I recommend a nice kitty brush and no bath. Brings oils to the surface, plus gets rid of all that cat hair that covers the sofa. Voila! Shiny coat. And cats love to be brushed.
I'm with you. Good dry food only. Took my cat off of canned food a long time ago. Causes diarebba (at least in my cat's case).
You liberals are the reason my date didn't blow me last night. She grabbed my crotch but then lost interest right afterwards. She must have felt it so she knew I had to have one.
You liberals are the reason my date didn't blow me last night. She grabbed my crotch but then lost interest right afterwards. She must have felt it so she knew I had to have one.
AAF Chimpy -
I find you amusing. You accuse the liberals of being "full of hate," yet your own posts say things like "cesspool," "stupid liberals. How dumb can you get?," "Hippie claptrap and anti-freedom," and you can't wait for us to get arrested.
Does Jesus know you're saying things like this? I thought the Bible warned against hypocrisy. You should really be more careful.
Merry Christmas!
AAF Chimpy -
I find you amusing. You accuse the liberals of being "full of hate," yet your own posts say things like "cesspool," "stupid liberals. How dumb can you get?," "Hippie claptrap and anti-freedom," and you can't wait for us to get arrested.
Does Jesus know you're saying things like this? I thought the Bible warned against hypocrisy. You should really be more careful.
Merry Christmas!
I am now hoping for another terrorist attack. That is how much I love 'murica. Why can't you elitists understand that?
I am now hoping for another terrorist attack. That is how much I love 'murica. Why can't you elitists understand that?
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
American Action Freedom Champi
I take it you love Bill and Hillary Clinton? He freed the people of Kosovo while Georgge H.W. Bush was too much of a pussy to do anything about, but I guess they don't count since we're only supposed to murder muslims, not save them? If I hated freedom I'd be stalking you back to your Mom's basement right now. As for the cesspool, I'm glad to hear of your plans to enlist and go fight in Iraq?
Last but not least, 'God and morals.' Prove god exists first and we'll talk about it.
MYOB'
.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
American Action Freedom Champi
I take it you love Bill and Hillary Clinton? He freed the people of Kosovo while Georgge H.W. Bush was too much of a pussy to do anything about, but I guess they don't count since we're only supposed to murder muslims, not save them? If I hated freedom I'd be stalking you back to your Mom's basement right now. As for the cesspool, I'm glad to hear of your plans to enlist and go fight in Iraq?
Last but not least, 'God and morals.' Prove god exists first and we'll talk about it.
MYOB'
.
BTW, I'm quite disappointed that no one loves the Alec Baldwin holiday greeting quite as much as I do.
Perhaps you had to have seen it to know how hysterical it was.
BTW, I'm quite disappointed that no one loves the Alec Baldwin holiday greeting quite as much as I do.
Perhaps you had to have seen it to know how hysterical it was.
GWPDA, yes, you have mountains. We have hills and I can tell the difference. I drove the loop around the Superstitions and was in a place not far from Heaven. And I have managed to get to Colorado with reasonable frequency, so I know what the big dogs, the fourteeners, look like too.
But for here, the highest elevation above the surrounding terrain for a good 200 miles is found at the top of the Epic Center -- 22 stories above the street. OOOOOHHHHHH!
I really did think I'd place the house on a lot, with sewer and water and all. I have a real estate agent, a mover and a mortgage specialist. What I don't have is a lot I'm happy with. I've even learned to deal with the concept of paying $55,000 for a lot.
I'm not saying you're wrong about the idea of living closer to the center, though. It took me 3/4 of an hour to drive from Mesa up to the north end a couple months ago, on a Sunday morning. Any suggestions or wisdom you have, I will certainly welcome and listen to (though being a liberal elitist hate monger, I may not follow the advice even if it's excellent!).
GWPDA, yes, you have mountains. We have hills and I can tell the difference. I drove the loop around the Superstitions and was in a place not far from Heaven. And I have managed to get to Colorado with reasonable frequency, so I know what the big dogs, the fourteeners, look like too.
But for here, the highest elevation above the surrounding terrain for a good 200 miles is found at the top of the Epic Center -- 22 stories above the street. OOOOOHHHHHH!
I really did think I'd place the house on a lot, with sewer and water and all. I have a real estate agent, a mover and a mortgage specialist. What I don't have is a lot I'm happy with. I've even learned to deal with the concept of paying $55,000 for a lot.
I'm not saying you're wrong about the idea of living closer to the center, though. It took me 3/4 of an hour to drive from Mesa up to the north end a couple months ago, on a Sunday morning. Any suggestions or wisdom you have, I will certainly welcome and listen to (though being a liberal elitist hate monger, I may not follow the advice even if it's excellent!).
Fluffy, your reading skills are severly impaired. Have you been hanging out with Rush and his housekeeper?
Fluffy, your reading skills are severly impaired. Have you been hanging out with Rush and his housekeeper?
The sad thing is that AmericanAction
guy is right about one thing --
when there's another major terrorist
attack on this country, we can
kiss the constitution goodbye.
Fascist dictatorship a go go.
.
The sad thing is that AmericanAction
guy is right about one thing --
when there's another major terrorist
attack on this country, we can
kiss the constitution goodbye.
Fascist dictatorship a go go.
.
Kissfan. Kiss stands for 'Kids in Satans Service.'
Kissfan. Kiss stands for 'Kids in Satans Service.'
with a little help from that super high tech computer program bought from blah blah blah
My reading skills are just fine, thanks.
with a little help from that super high tech computer program bought from blah blah blah
My reading skills are just fine, thanks.
http://www.allelectronics.com
For the best light show ever, go there, and type in "Christmas lights" and check out the LED 20 bars light show.
I decorated my door at work, and received the 'Most Bizarre' award.
http://www.allelectronics.com
For the best light show ever, go there, and type in "Christmas lights" and check out the LED 20 bars light show.
I decorated my door at work, and received the 'Most Bizarre' award.
Jennifer - I saw it and I've always loved it. It reminds me of all those 'holiday letters' we get from people we don't know.
I'm reading David Sedaris' little collection of holiday stories and the middle one is a long holiday letter from this woman and it is hysterical. I got pissed off one year about those letters and wrote up a parody that Mr. Tena would not let me print and send. It was vicious.
I enjoyed reading Alex's letter. Thanks for posting it.
Jennifer - I saw it and I've always loved it. It reminds me of all those 'holiday letters' we get from people we don't know.
I'm reading David Sedaris' little collection of holiday stories and the middle one is a long holiday letter from this woman and it is hysterical. I got pissed off one year about those letters and wrote up a parody that Mr. Tena would not let me print and send. It was vicious.
I enjoyed reading Alex's letter. Thanks for posting it.
Perhaps you had to have seen it to know how hysterical it was.
Jennifer
really, there's no such thing as an outside joke. Ya pretty much gotta be there, when performance is a significant part of the humor...
"To be or not to be, that is the gazrnanplatt!"
Perhaps you had to have seen it to know how hysterical it was.
Jennifer
really, there's no such thing as an outside joke. Ya pretty much gotta be there, when performance is a significant part of the humor...
"To be or not to be, that is the gazrnanplatt!"
The sad thing is that AmericanAction
guy is right about one thing --
when there's another major terrorist
attack on this country, we can
kiss the constitution goodbye.
Fascist dictatorship a go go.
.
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:16 pm | #
We'll have a lot more than a fascist dictatorship, we'll have the beginning of the second american civil war/revolution.
MYOB'
.
The sad thing is that AmericanAction
guy is right about one thing --
when there's another major terrorist
attack on this country, we can
kiss the constitution goodbye.
Fascist dictatorship a go go.
.
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:16 pm | #
We'll have a lot more than a fascist dictatorship, we'll have the beginning of the second american civil war/revolution.
MYOB'
.
My reading skills are just fine, thanks.
Fluffy
Just goes to show ya the extent to which delusions can capture your mind, don't it, Fluff...I find no evidence of reading skills nor any trace of critical acumen...
but somebody posting as "fluffy" starts with a disadvantage unknowable to anyone not so afflicted...
My reading skills are just fine, thanks.
Fluffy
Just goes to show ya the extent to which delusions can capture your mind, don't it, Fluff...I find no evidence of reading skills nor any trace of critical acumen...
but somebody posting as "fluffy" starts with a disadvantage unknowable to anyone not so afflicted...
We'll have a lot more than a fascist dictatorship, we'll have the beginning of the second american civil war/revolution.
Yup. At least 58-59 million Americans (Kerry voters) rejected Bush's theocratic doctrine. The attempt at the full-scale implementation of a facist society will lead to a horrific clash.
We'll have a lot more than a fascist dictatorship, we'll have the beginning of the second american civil war/revolution.
Yup. At least 58-59 million Americans (Kerry voters) rejected Bush's theocratic doctrine. The attempt at the full-scale implementation of a facist society will lead to a horrific clash.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
American Action Freedom Champi
Say, you're not the old crotchety guy who lived on our block 30 years ago who always spouted off about "commies" and "pinkos" and "hippies" and was so scary all the kids, even the babies, hated him, are you?
Because I thought you died.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
American Action Freedom Champi
Say, you're not the old crotchety guy who lived on our block 30 years ago who always spouted off about "commies" and "pinkos" and "hippies" and was so scary all the kids, even the babies, hated him, are you?
Because I thought you died.
MYOB, my fear is that it will be more of an American intafata
MYOB, my fear is that it will be more of an American intafata
My birthday is under siege
well actually it's not your birthday, it's an appropriated pagan holiday.
My aunt, whom I agree with on most things ordinarily, was going off the other day about how secularized Christmas has become and how it's really about Christ, not gift-giving and Santa Claus and such.
I love her too much to have ruined her rant by saying, 'um, actually no one really knows exactly when he was born, they weren't using a Gregorian calendar back then anyway. Christmas is just something the Church made up to help them Christianize the pagans'
My birthday is under siege
well actually it's not your birthday, it's an appropriated pagan holiday.
My aunt, whom I agree with on most things ordinarily, was going off the other day about how secularized Christmas has become and how it's really about Christ, not gift-giving and Santa Claus and such.
I love her too much to have ruined her rant by saying, 'um, actually no one really knows exactly when he was born, they weren't using a Gregorian calendar back then anyway. Christmas is just something the Church made up to help them Christianize the pagans'
Incognito - I had a cat who was wild and abandoned and adopted him. He was almost starved, had worms, dull, patchy coat etc. You can bathe him but it probably won't shiny up his coat - it will take months of good food and care and it will gradually come. Be patient. He was also very wild and hid in the house all the time but he gradually over a year got friendlier and trusted us. It takes a lot of time and patience.
Incognito - I had a cat who was wild and abandoned and adopted him. He was almost starved, had worms, dull, patchy coat etc. You can bathe him but it probably won't shiny up his coat - it will take months of good food and care and it will gradually come. Be patient. He was also very wild and hid in the house all the time but he gradually over a year got friendlier and trusted us. It takes a lot of time and patience.
Say, you're not the old crotchety guy who lived on our block 30 years ago who always spouted off about "commies" and "pinkos" and "hippies" and was so scary all the kids, even the babies, hated him, are you?
Dang smoochers! Get off my property, or you'll get a backside full of rock salt!
Dang smoochers!
All humor is indeed inside humor...
Say, you're not the old crotchety guy who lived on our block 30 years ago who always spouted off about "commies" and "pinkos" and "hippies" and was so scary all the kids, even the babies, hated him, are you?
Dang smoochers! Get off my property, or you'll get a backside full of rock salt!
Dang smoochers!
All humor is indeed inside humor...
Prediction:
If (big if) the GOPukes lose either House or Senate in 2006, and/or a significant populist threat arises to threaten the Il Douche and his lick-spittles, toadies, and sycophants, there will occur another deadly, bloody 'terror' attack which will have the net effect of causing the cancellation of all civil liberties...
Prediction:
If (big if) the GOPukes lose either House or Senate in 2006, and/or a significant populist threat arises to threaten the Il Douche and his lick-spittles, toadies, and sycophants, there will occur another deadly, bloody 'terror' attack which will have the net effect of causing the cancellation of all civil liberties...
I used to bathe the cats with flea shampoo when they were infested. They were good kitties - there was very little bloodshed. Haven't given a cat a bath since they came up with that flea-killing stuff you squirt onto the back of the neck.
Not all cats have shiny coats. The late lamented Turtle had an undercoat almost as long as her guard coat and was always wooly rather than sleek and shiny. Kittens tend to be fuzzy too, so give String time to get his adult coat.
I used to bathe the cats with flea shampoo when they were infested. They were good kitties - there was very little bloodshed. Haven't given a cat a bath since they came up with that flea-killing stuff you squirt onto the back of the neck.
Not all cats have shiny coats. The late lamented Turtle had an undercoat almost as long as her guard coat and was always wooly rather than sleek and shiny. Kittens tend to be fuzzy too, so give String time to get his adult coat.
Hate to be the pessimist but...
What makes everyone so sure that Americans won't just go along with whatever Bush & Co. dish out?
I mean, look what he's done so far, and he was "re" elected. It should have been a Kerry landslide.
That it wasn't proves that people aren't thinking for themselves.
Hitler's party wasn't the majority party, and look how far he was able to lead the Germans astray.
And as in Hitler's time, one of the principal targets is intellectualism and its adherants, i.e., people who do think for themselves.
Watch the ease with which they will soon completely dismantle Social Security, with the full and enthusiastic support of a majority of voters, and then tell yourself again that "it can't happen here." Mark it as a bellweather of what's yet to come.
Hate to be the pessimist but...
What makes everyone so sure that Americans won't just go along with whatever Bush & Co. dish out?
I mean, look what he's done so far, and he was "re" elected. It should have been a Kerry landslide.
That it wasn't proves that people aren't thinking for themselves.
Hitler's party wasn't the majority party, and look how far he was able to lead the Germans astray.
And as in Hitler's time, one of the principal targets is intellectualism and its adherants, i.e., people who do think for themselves.
Watch the ease with which they will soon completely dismantle Social Security, with the full and enthusiastic support of a majority of voters, and then tell yourself again that "it can't happen here." Mark it as a bellweather of what's yet to come.
I read in today's paper that this is supposed to be the worst shopping day of the year. Given that, I can only assume it won't be too bad, based on my paper's usual accuracy, as I go do my usual shopping.
GWPDA, if you do have suggestions, please lay 'em on me and I'll check back when and if I manage to return.
I read in today's paper that this is supposed to be the worst shopping day of the year. Given that, I can only assume it won't be too bad, based on my paper's usual accuracy, as I go do my usual shopping.
GWPDA, if you do have suggestions, please lay 'em on me and I'll check back when and if I manage to return.
To be or not to be, that is the gazrnanplatt!"
Konopelli | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:19 pm | #
Oh my god -- old Bob Newhart bit?
Infinite number of monkeys at the
infinite number of typewriters?
To be or not to be, that is the gazrnanplatt!"
Konopelli | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:19 pm | #
Oh my god -- old Bob Newhart bit?
Infinite number of monkeys at the
infinite number of typewriters?
Dang smoochers! Get off my property, or you'll get a backside full of rock salt!
Dang smoochers!
All humor is indeed inside humor...
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:26 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!
MSTies of the World, Unite!
Dang smoochers! Get off my property, or you'll get a backside full of rock salt!
Dang smoochers!
All humor is indeed inside humor...
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:26 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!
MSTies of the World, Unite!
MSTies of the World, Unite!
filkertom | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:31 pm | #
I'm huge!
MSTies of the World, Unite!
filkertom | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:31 pm | #
I'm huge!
Infinite number of monkeys at the
infinite number of typewriters?
steve simels
Mebbe the OLDEST Newhart bit; certainly one of the oldest. I was no more than 10-12 when I heard it for the first time, and it continues to crack me up down to this day...
Infinite number of monkeys at the
infinite number of typewriters?
steve simels
Mebbe the OLDEST Newhart bit; certainly one of the oldest. I was no more than 10-12 when I heard it for the first time, and it continues to crack me up down to this day...
Incog -
Do. Not. Bathe. Cat.
Thank you.
Incog -
Do. Not. Bathe. Cat.
Thank you.
Kissfan. Kiss stands for 'Kids in Satans Service.'
Yeah, I heard that one too along with Gene Simmons' tongue was surgically enhanced with a cow's tongue and that he spit chicken blood during concerts. They also used to tell everybody that the make-up really was their real faces and that Gene was hatched from an egg in 1776. However, when I grew up, I realized how feeble and childish all of those things were. For crying out loud, Gene Simmons attended rabidinal school as a teenager. If that's the best you've got, you better move along little one.
Kissfan. Kiss stands for 'Kids in Satans Service.'
Yeah, I heard that one too along with Gene Simmons' tongue was surgically enhanced with a cow's tongue and that he spit chicken blood during concerts. They also used to tell everybody that the make-up really was their real faces and that Gene was hatched from an egg in 1776. However, when I grew up, I realized how feeble and childish all of those things were. For crying out loud, Gene Simmons attended rabidinal school as a teenager. If that's the best you've got, you better move along little one.
Konopelli:
I've always wondered how to spell
gzrnplatt.
Konopelli:
I've always wondered how to spell
gzrnplatt.
when and if I manage to return.
ATablaRasa | Email | Homepage
That foto on your blog sure looks like northern New Mexico/Arizona//southern Colorado/Utah...
when and if I manage to return.
ATablaRasa | Email | Homepage
That foto on your blog sure looks like northern New Mexico/Arizona//southern Colorado/Utah...
I think the social security issue will be the straw that breaks the camel's back of the Bush administration. If AARP and other senior groups don't cave or get bought off, I think they could lose this one. (But only because of the huge deficit.) Maybe then they will start going down - maybe,maybe...
I think the social security issue will be the straw that breaks the camel's back of the Bush administration. If AARP and other senior groups don't cave or get bought off, I think they could lose this one. (But only because of the huge deficit.) Maybe then they will start going down - maybe,maybe...
Actually, AAF Chimpy,
I'm surprised you're not a Kiss fan yourself. Gene Simmons was a Bush supporter in this last election.
Actually, AAF Chimpy,
I'm surprised you're not a Kiss fan yourself. Gene Simmons was a Bush supporter in this last election.
gzrnplatt.
steve simels
steve, i owe it all to hukt ahn fonix
gzrnplatt.
steve simels
steve, i owe it all to hukt ahn fonix
I want to do one of those medley
records some day with snippets of
great psychedelic songs from the 60s
and call it Hooked On Drugs.
Hey, it could happen....
I want to do one of those medley
records some day with snippets of
great psychedelic songs from the 60s
and call it Hooked On Drugs.
Hey, it could happen....
Kissfan. Kiss stands for 'Kids in Satans Service.'
Yeah, I heard that one too along with Gene Simmons' tongue was surgically enhanced with a cow's tongue and that he spit chicken blood during concerts. They also used to tell everybody that the make-up really was their real faces and that Gene was hatched from an egg in 1776. However, when I grew up, I realized how feeble and childish all of those things were. For crying out loud, Gene Simmons attended rabidinal school as a teenager. If that's the best you've got, you better move along little one.
kissfan | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:35 pm
My favorite was from the first KISS comic (the one printed with "real KISS BLOOD!!!"):
"... why... 'KISS'?"
"Probably because he couldn't spell 'osculate'...."
Kissfan. Kiss stands for 'Kids in Satans Service.'
Yeah, I heard that one too along with Gene Simmons' tongue was surgically enhanced with a cow's tongue and that he spit chicken blood during concerts. They also used to tell everybody that the make-up really was their real faces and that Gene was hatched from an egg in 1776. However, when I grew up, I realized how feeble and childish all of those things were. For crying out loud, Gene Simmons attended rabidinal school as a teenager. If that's the best you've got, you better move along little one.
kissfan | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:35 pm
My favorite was from the first KISS comic (the one printed with "real KISS BLOOD!!!"):
"... why... 'KISS'?"
"Probably because he couldn't spell 'osculate'...."
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
American Action Freedom Champi
This comment reveals the extreme pyschosis and ignorance of the average Bushist. First, we don't live in a monarchy; it is perfectly acceptable to strongly disapprove of an elected representative. Next, those who proclaim their love of "freedom" seem incongruently silent when the Bill of Rights is being systematically dismantled and intrusions of "big, bad" government become more frequent and sanctioned. Next, love of a free market is actually the antithesis of the crony capitalism and trauma whoring which has produced the dismantling of social security and Halliburton/Bechtel war whoring. It's absolutely incredible that such cultish thinking has taken over our society and that those who are distinctly anti-Constitutional somehow fancy themselves "patriotic." Champi, at least have the intellectual honesty to admit your cultish adherence to Bush & posse. Don't pretend that you have any intellectual/moral justification whatsoever for your facilitation of the dismantling of this country.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals. Have fun in your cesspool.
American Action Freedom Champi
This comment reveals the extreme pyschosis and ignorance of the average Bushist. First, we don't live in a monarchy; it is perfectly acceptable to strongly disapprove of an elected representative. Next, those who proclaim their love of "freedom" seem incongruently silent when the Bill of Rights is being systematically dismantled and intrusions of "big, bad" government become more frequent and sanctioned. Next, love of a free market is actually the antithesis of the crony capitalism and trauma whoring which has produced the dismantling of social security and Halliburton/Bechtel war whoring. It's absolutely incredible that such cultish thinking has taken over our society and that those who are distinctly anti-Constitutional somehow fancy themselves "patriotic." Champi, at least have the intellectual honesty to admit your cultish adherence to Bush & posse. Don't pretend that you have any intellectual/moral justification whatsoever for your facilitation of the dismantling of this country.
'We in the heartland are tired of your elitist garbage and we are taking our country back.'
Not only are you suffering from incipient messianic megalomanic insanity resulting in disintegration of brain cells but your "heartland" hearts show too much artery disease from greed, living too high on the hog, eating democrat babies, and cardiac failure because you ain't got any heart.
'We in the heartland are tired of your elitist garbage and we are taking our country back.'
Not only are you suffering from incipient messianic megalomanic insanity resulting in disintegration of brain cells but your "heartland" hearts show too much artery disease from greed, living too high on the hog, eating democrat babies, and cardiac failure because you ain't got any heart.
I'm huge!
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:33 pm
"But, Clay... it might be bold."
I'm huge!
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 4:33 pm
"But, Clay... it might be bold."
Now democrats supposedly hate Christmas? Whatever happened to Christmas is getting too commercial? Maybe Republicans realized that if people just observed the religious aspects of the holiday the poor department stores would suffer. Not a Republican value. Shop til you drop! (whew, quick corrected from drip to drop, that would be weird.)
Now democrats supposedly hate Christmas? Whatever happened to Christmas is getting too commercial? Maybe Republicans realized that if people just observed the religious aspects of the holiday the poor department stores would suffer. Not a Republican value. Shop til you drop! (whew, quick corrected from drip to drop, that would be weird.)
as a product (partially) of fundie schools, I have to correct freedom chimpy: it's Knights in satan's service.
shesh, at least give the devil worshippers their proper honorifics.
as a product (partially) of fundie schools, I have to correct freedom chimpy: it's Knights in satan's service.
shesh, at least give the devil worshippers their proper honorifics.
And speaking of Gene Simmons, has
anybody noticed his current hair
(or rug, perhaps, who knows). It
makes Donald Trump's do look like
sheer poetry.
It sort of resembles an aircraft
carrier.
And speaking of Gene Simmons, has
anybody noticed his current hair
(or rug, perhaps, who knows). It
makes Donald Trump's do look like
sheer poetry.
It sort of resembles an aircraft
carrier.
GN? Cass? This is gonna sound like comedy, but... I think you're using words that are too big for him.
GN? Cass? This is gonna sound like comedy, but... I think you're using words that are too big for him.
I'd bet anything that 95% of the trolls here are from LGF. Squeaky Johnson never lets a day go by without a 'hate' at Kos or Atrios. OTOH, I don't believe Atrios or Kos has ever mentioned LGF in a post. For Squeaky, it's just more red meat, and his 'minions' respond (and then scurry back to LGF with breathless tales of what the 'LLL Moonbats' are saying.
They are truly pathetic.
I'd bet anything that 95% of the trolls here are from LGF. Squeaky Johnson never lets a day go by without a 'hate' at Kos or Atrios. OTOH, I don't believe Atrios or Kos has ever mentioned LGF in a post. For Squeaky, it's just more red meat, and his 'minions' respond (and then scurry back to LGF with breathless tales of what the 'LLL Moonbats' are saying.
They are truly pathetic.
"Probably because he couldn't spell 'osculate'...."
filkertom
Actually the first suggestion for a band name was FUCK!
"Probably because he couldn't spell 'osculate'...."
filkertom
Actually the first suggestion for a band name was FUCK!
Hey, Freedom Chimpi, were you one of the 44% who think that Muslim-Americans should have their rights curbed? Muslim internment camps, read all about it.
Hey, Freedom Chimpi, were you one of the 44% who think that Muslim-Americans should have their rights curbed? Muslim internment camps, read all about it.
"And in conclusion, Cameron McIntosh,
bite me!"
-- Crow T. Robot, "The Castle of
Fu Manchu"
Like "the" and "and", I mean. Can you compress it to a few fairly inarticulate grunts, perhaps combined with breaking something? That should get a few ook-ooks.
"And in conclusion, Cameron McIntosh,
bite me!"
-- Crow T. Robot, "The Castle of
Fu Manchu"
Like "the" and "and", I mean. Can you compress it to a few fairly inarticulate grunts, perhaps combined with breaking something? That should get a few ook-ooks.
The Republicans hate Amuraca and are trying to kill democrat babies by starving them too death because their parents work under slave labor.
Why do republicans hate babies and try to starve them and not them them have any health care?
Why is it that only Republican babies get get good food, houses, and education?
Why are they trying to kill Democrat babies?
The Republicans hate Amuraca and are trying to kill democrat babies by starving them too death because their parents work under slave labor.
Why do republicans hate babies and try to starve them and not them them have any health care?
Why is it that only Republican babies get get good food, houses, and education?
Why are they trying to kill Democrat babies?
steve simels -
It's most definitely a rug. They all wear rugs now.
steve simels -
It's most definitely a rug. They all wear rugs now.
Incog
What Jenny said...mainly cuz it's unnecessary. Cats are exemplars of personal hygene...which trait you can turn somewhat against them if, for instance, you need to administer medicines that can be dissolved. Then all you have to do is dab a drop or two on a paw of flank, and the cat will take the medicine in consequence of trying to wash itself clean of the solution...
I once had a shiny, silky, midnight black long-hair named Annie (when the Last Wife and I split up, she got the cats, and I got the dogs). Whe would wait on the countertop by the sink in the bathroom for me to emerge from the shower. As asson as i had a towel over my shoulder, she would invariably climb to where she could reach my beard and begin to lick water out of it, because all cats know a wet kitty is a vulnerable kitty, and so the best ting to do is to help each other dry off...
I always thought Annie and I had probably met in a former life when we were both different species...she's going to be 18 or 19 this year...
Incog
What Jenny said...mainly cuz it's unnecessary. Cats are exemplars of personal hygene...which trait you can turn somewhat against them if, for instance, you need to administer medicines that can be dissolved. Then all you have to do is dab a drop or two on a paw of flank, and the cat will take the medicine in consequence of trying to wash itself clean of the solution...
I once had a shiny, silky, midnight black long-hair named Annie (when the Last Wife and I split up, she got the cats, and I got the dogs). Whe would wait on the countertop by the sink in the bathroom for me to emerge from the shower. As asson as i had a towel over my shoulder, she would invariably climb to where she could reach my beard and begin to lick water out of it, because all cats know a wet kitty is a vulnerable kitty, and so the best ting to do is to help each other dry off...
I always thought Annie and I had probably met in a former life when we were both different species...she's going to be 18 or 19 this year...
"Now, see that? That's Mick Jagger's cloud. Stay off it."
Tom Servo, "Driver Safety in New Jersey" short leading into King Dinosaur
"Now, see that? That's Mick Jagger's cloud. Stay off it."
Tom Servo, "Driver Safety in New Jersey" short leading into King Dinosaur
Y'know, the best way to 'reform the military' is to get the 101st Fighting Keyboarders to enlist.
Remember, what Professor Jethro in Knoxville wants most for Christmas is an enlistment form.
Y'know, the best way to 'reform the military' is to get the 101st Fighting Keyboarders to enlist.
Remember, what Professor Jethro in Knoxville wants most for Christmas is an enlistment form.
'We in the heartland are tired of your elitist garbage and we are taking our country back.'
This is clearly someone who needs to leave the country. This is someone who finds separation of church and state, civil rights, educational opportunity, and basic morality intolerable. If this individual does not care to live in a constitutional republic where a Bill of Rights prevents tyranny of the majority, I'm sure that other countries (perhaps North Korea? there's a cult there too, you'll feel right at home) would be much more suitable.
'We in the heartland are tired of your elitist garbage and we are taking our country back.'
This is clearly someone who needs to leave the country. This is someone who finds separation of church and state, civil rights, educational opportunity, and basic morality intolerable. If this individual does not care to live in a constitutional republic where a Bill of Rights prevents tyranny of the majority, I'm sure that other countries (perhaps North Korea? there's a cult there too, you'll feel right at home) would be much more suitable.
Jennifer:
I fear you are right. Up til 11/2 I really believed the American People were smart and would overwhelmingly vote the bastards out. Have not been able to really work on my quilting since. Depression is not conducive to creativity.
OTOH - The most liberal member of the Sanate lost by only one state. The red/blue map is really purple. We just may pull this one out, but I am no longer holding my breath. Especially since we can't get the fucking democrats to wake the fuck up. Where the fuck are they?
Jennifer:
I fear you are right. Up til 11/2 I really believed the American People were smart and would overwhelmingly vote the bastards out. Have not been able to really work on my quilting since. Depression is not conducive to creativity.
OTOH - The most liberal member of the Sanate lost by only one state. The red/blue map is really purple. We just may pull this one out, but I am no longer holding my breath. Especially since we can't get the fucking democrats to wake the fuck up. Where the fuck are they?
"is"=are, sorry.
but with all the Xmas bashing I do...no wonder I'm tired
{It's funny how much damage bad grammer and poor spelling does to a potentionally good idea.}
"is"=are, sorry.
but with all the Xmas bashing I do...no wonder I'm tired
{It's funny how much damage bad grammer and poor spelling does to a potentionally good idea.}
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals
Wow, we've never heard this one before. A genuinely friendly soul turned off by all of our hatred. Ann Coulter, she's a sweet young woman, but our hatred turns off those who would, otherwise, engage us in the uplifting exchange of ideas. This one couldn't be a troll -- could he?
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals
Wow, we've never heard this one before. A genuinely friendly soul turned off by all of our hatred. Ann Coulter, she's a sweet young woman, but our hatred turns off those who would, otherwise, engage us in the uplifting exchange of ideas. This one couldn't be a troll -- could he?
"Egrets....I've had a few...."
-- Crow T. Robot, "Revenge of the
Creature"
Have I mentioned that I once got to
interview Mike Nelson, Kevin Murphy,
and Bill Corbett in person?
I was beside myself with excitement --
for me it was like meeting the
Beatles or something.
"Egrets....I've had a few...."
-- Crow T. Robot, "Revenge of the
Creature"
Have I mentioned that I once got to
interview Mike Nelson, Kevin Murphy,
and Bill Corbett in person?
I was beside myself with excitement --
for me it was like meeting the
Beatles or something.
Insider -- I think they probably have mentioned LGF, but the ratio is waaaay out of whack -- as are, of course, the denizens of LGF. I've only gone over there a couple of times; between that, FR, and Townhall, it's a wonder they all don't have strokes from the terrible things that eeevil libruls are doing allatime.
Funny, innit, that all of our acts of "evil" seem involve helping people, and all of theirs seem to involve... evil?
Insider -- I think they probably have mentioned LGF, but the ratio is waaaay out of whack -- as are, of course, the denizens of LGF. I've only gone over there a couple of times; between that, FR, and Townhall, it's a wonder they all don't have strokes from the terrible things that eeevil libruls are doing allatime.
Funny, innit, that all of our acts of "evil" seem involve helping people, and all of theirs seem to involve... evil?
Konopelli - your beard-licking cat story explains something for me: the reaction I've gotten from each of my kitties when they've gotten used to "the kitty towel" (an old towel I break out for whenever the cat gets wet when it's raining). The first time they were towelled, each of them freaked a bit. But then they all seemed to positively relish it, once they figured out that I was drying them off.
Fascinating creatures.
Konopelli - your beard-licking cat story explains something for me: the reaction I've gotten from each of my kitties when they've gotten used to "the kitty towel" (an old towel I break out for whenever the cat gets wet when it's raining). The first time they were towelled, each of them freaked a bit. But then they all seemed to positively relish it, once they figured out that I was drying them off.
Fascinating creatures.
Tremendously cool, Steve! Closest I got was the first MST3K ConventioConExpoFestARama, or whatever it was called -- I've got the badge around here somewhere... shook hands, got autographs, way cool.
Tremendously cool, Steve! Closest I got was the first MST3K ConventioConExpoFestARama, or whatever it was called -- I've got the badge around here somewhere... shook hands, got autographs, way cool.
I think the social security issue will be the straw that breaks the camel's back of the Bush administration...Maybe then they will start going down - maybe,maybe...
puzzledwoman
I used to think that the biggest problem was the GOP and its willingness to whore the lowest common denominator in order to assume power. But the more I listen to Bushists, the angrier I become and the more convinced I am that they are the problem. We've got a population of people in this country who somehow feel entitled to preserve their "lifestyles" and enforce their bizarre, hypocritical moral code on everyone else. This group has been the scourge of our society since the Civil War, when they actually fought to the death to preserve genocide. Now, they are fighting to the death to preserve ignorance and immorality. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I've become convinced that so long as there is a significant portion of the population that still embraces the moral values of the antebellum South, we'll continue to have to fight political battles.
I think the social security issue will be the straw that breaks the camel's back of the Bush administration...Maybe then they will start going down - maybe,maybe...
puzzledwoman
I used to think that the biggest problem was the GOP and its willingness to whore the lowest common denominator in order to assume power. But the more I listen to Bushists, the angrier I become and the more convinced I am that they are the problem. We've got a population of people in this country who somehow feel entitled to preserve their "lifestyles" and enforce their bizarre, hypocritical moral code on everyone else. This group has been the scourge of our society since the Civil War, when they actually fought to the death to preserve genocide. Now, they are fighting to the death to preserve ignorance and immorality. I'm not sure what the solution is, but I've become convinced that so long as there is a significant portion of the population that still embraces the moral values of the antebellum South, we'll continue to have to fight political battles.
"because all cats know a wet kitty is a vulnerable kitty, and so the best thing to do is to help each other dry off..."
Doggies too (retrievers excepted). I was going to offer to Incog that if he had to wash Stringey, the best way to do it, literally, is to wash off with him. All mammals together, eh? Before I learnt that Arthur actually needs a good hard dusting rather than washing, we found that the best way of doing it. Everybody gets wet at the same time, nobody gets upset, everybody dries off.
"because all cats know a wet kitty is a vulnerable kitty, and so the best thing to do is to help each other dry off..."
Doggies too (retrievers excepted). I was going to offer to Incog that if he had to wash Stringey, the best way to do it, literally, is to wash off with him. All mammals together, eh? Before I learnt that Arthur actually needs a good hard dusting rather than washing, we found that the best way of doing it. Everybody gets wet at the same time, nobody gets upset, everybody dries off.
Filkertom:
They all autographed my episode guide.
Mike wrote "Dear Steve: Don't eat
glass. Thank you."
Can't tell you bummed I was to
discover recently that he's a
a fundie who voted for bush.
Filkertom:
They all autographed my episode guide.
Mike wrote "Dear Steve: Don't eat
glass. Thank you."
Can't tell you bummed I was to
discover recently that he's a
a fundie who voted for bush.
I've bathed lots of cats, either for flea problems or, like, when the big 25 pounder got locked in the basement overnight and came out all nasty. I've perfected the left-hand chopsticks hold for the front paws, and use the sprayer and the right hand for washing below the neck, lots of dry towels and apologies afterwards. They aren't crazy about it but it's not a big deal. I'm surprised so many of you recommend wet food--it always gave my beasts the runs, and that's no good for any of us. It's Iams forever around here for my three.
I've bathed lots of cats, either for flea problems or, like, when the big 25 pounder got locked in the basement overnight and came out all nasty. I've perfected the left-hand chopsticks hold for the front paws, and use the sprayer and the right hand for washing below the neck, lots of dry towels and apologies afterwards. They aren't crazy about it but it's not a big deal. I'm surprised so many of you recommend wet food--it always gave my beasts the runs, and that's no good for any of us. It's Iams forever around here for my three.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals............................................
.........I dont hate you at all,I just want to eat your liver.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals............................................
.........I dont hate you at all,I just want to eat your liver.
OTOH, I don't believe Atrios or Kos has ever mentioned LGF in a post.
Not true.
OTOH, I don't believe Atrios or Kos has ever mentioned LGF in a post.
Not true.
Steve -- you gotta be kidding. I mean, apart from all that wit, talent, and... um... irreverence -- look at his wife.
A straight guy married to a woman like that has a duty to the rest of us not to be pious, y'know?
Steve -- you gotta be kidding. I mean, apart from all that wit, talent, and... um... irreverence -- look at his wife.
A straight guy married to a woman like that has a duty to the rest of us not to be pious, y'know?
Whups. Stuff happening. Back later.
Whups. Stuff happening. Back later.
Filkertom:
I hear you. Mrs. Mike is indeed
goddess like...when she played the Roman
babe....whew!
Filkertom:
I hear you. Mrs. Mike is indeed
goddess like...when she played the Roman
babe....whew!
It's an open thread, so
steve
what charts would you put on the Hooked On Drugs cd?
White Rabbit, obviously
Rainy Day Women $ 12 & 35
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
Cocaine
If You're a Viper
I Want a New Drug
Miracle Drug
other suggestins?
It's an open thread, so
steve
what charts would you put on the Hooked On Drugs cd?
White Rabbit, obviously
Rainy Day Women $ 12 & 35
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
Cocaine
If You're a Viper
I Want a New Drug
Miracle Drug
other suggestins?
Not true.
Fluffy
Examples?
Not true.
Fluffy
Examples?
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2003/.../feel-
love.html
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2003/...graham-
lie.html
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2003/...tupid-
does.html
There are more.
Daily Kos has a TON of posts mentioning LGF & Charles. Not to mention the comments sections of both sites, wherein some dolt will invariably equate any criticism of Islamic fundamentalism with LGF-style bigotry.
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2003/.../feel-
love.html
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2003/...graham-
lie.html
http://atrios.blogspot.com/2003/...tupid-
does.html
There are more.
Daily Kos has a TON of posts mentioning LGF & Charles. Not to mention the comments sections of both sites, wherein some dolt will invariably equate any criticism of Islamic fundamentalism with LGF-style bigotry.
Here's a few pages of Kos-on-Charles LUV
for the record, I think both guys are assholes and should be locked in a room with each other for eternity.
Here's a few pages of Kos-on-Charles LUV
for the record, I think both guys are assholes and should be locked in a room with each other for eternity.
"I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals."
All sane people hate fascism which means the freedom to destroy the country and the decent people in it in this case. This isn't a free market but a corporate fascist Mussolini style kleptocracy. Other than you guys really making a bad name for Christianity, the words, "God and morals" spews out of your mouths like malignant poisonous froglike spores that have poisoned the country and the world. The word "freedom" to you means simply to eat the good and the innocent and the clean.
"I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals."
All sane people hate fascism which means the freedom to destroy the country and the decent people in it in this case. This isn't a free market but a corporate fascist Mussolini style kleptocracy. Other than you guys really making a bad name for Christianity, the words, "God and morals" spews out of your mouths like malignant poisonous froglike spores that have poisoned the country and the world. The word "freedom" to you means simply to eat the good and the innocent and the clean.
Damn, seems like you had to really browse the archives for that list, Fluffy.
Damn, seems like you had to really browse the archives for that list, Fluffy.
I dont hate you at all,I just want to eat your liver.
What? Prometheus's organ isn't enough for you?
What a gluttonous vulture.
I dont hate you at all,I just want to eat your liver.
What? Prometheus's organ isn't enough for you?
What a gluttonous vulture.
The 14 middle eastern men involved in the Northwest Airlines flight #327 from Detroit to LA on June 29, 2004 as reported by Annie Jacobsen, are supposedly in jail.
I just spoke with a guy who had been jumpseating with some other pilots that were part of the 'armed and carrying' pilots program. Turns out that the original reports of the 14 middle eastern bandmembers who were on route to a gig out west were a ruse. Turns out that the men were released, not because their stories checked out, but so that they could be followed and monitored as to where they went, who they spoke to, etc, but according to the two pilots, they are now in federal custody.
If anyone has heard anything about this as verification please pass it on.
MYOB'
.
The 14 middle eastern men involved in the Northwest Airlines flight #327 from Detroit to LA on June 29, 2004 as reported by Annie Jacobsen, are supposedly in jail.
I just spoke with a guy who had been jumpseating with some other pilots that were part of the 'armed and carrying' pilots program. Turns out that the original reports of the 14 middle eastern bandmembers who were on route to a gig out west were a ruse. Turns out that the men were released, not because their stories checked out, but so that they could be followed and monitored as to where they went, who they spoke to, etc, but according to the two pilots, they are now in federal custody.
If anyone has heard anything about this as verification please pass it on.
MYOB'
.
GN, all I had to do was google the site name and LGF, and lo and behold, there they were. As you might have done yourself, ya lazy fuck!
GN, all I had to do was google the site name and LGF, and lo and behold, there they were. As you might have done yourself, ya lazy fuck!
Knopelli:
All of the above plus
The Byrds' Eight Miles High, which
really isn't a drug song, but what
the hell.
The Velvet Underground's Heroin
and my alltime favorite,
the amboy dukes journey to the center
of your mind.
Also the Small Faces Itchykoo Park....
Knopelli:
All of the above plus
The Byrds' Eight Miles High, which
really isn't a drug song, but what
the hell.
The Velvet Underground's Heroin
and my alltime favorite,
the amboy dukes journey to the center
of your mind.
Also the Small Faces Itchykoo Park....
This isn't a free market but a corporate fascist Mussolini style kleptocracy.
Amen. These fools scream "free market" and Bush & posse laugh all the way to the bank as they literally pick our pockets like base hustlers.
This isn't a free market but a corporate fascist Mussolini style kleptocracy.
Amen. These fools scream "free market" and Bush & posse laugh all the way to the bank as they literally pick our pockets like base hustlers.
Also the Small Faces Itchykoo Park....
Yowsa, a blast from the past. Haven't heard that song in years.
Also the Small Faces Itchykoo Park....
Yowsa, a blast from the past. Haven't heard that song in years.
I'm having trouble finding hatred on a board largely made up of conversations about cat grooming,the Arizona landscape, and heavy metal bands. Maybe its just me.
I'm having trouble finding hatred on a board largely made up of conversations about cat grooming,the Arizona landscape, and heavy metal bands. Maybe its just me.
Pie:
The Small Faces had lots more songs
just as good...fantastic band...
Pie:
The Small Faces had lots more songs
just as good...fantastic band...
GN, all I had to do was google the site name and LGF, and lo and behold, there they were. As you might have done yourself, ya lazy fuck!
Fluffy
Try googling "Adam Smith" and actually learning a little about the foundations of free market theory. Time much better spent, I think, than worrying about what Atrios might have said last year about your cult. Perhaps then you might compare your endorsement of the Bush administration's shenanigans with free market theory.
“Wherever there is great property there is great inequality. Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality, instituted for the defence of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all…Perfect liberty can never happen if government heeds or is entrusted to the mean rapacity, the monopolizing spirit of merchants and manufacturers who neither are, nor ought to be the rulers of mankind.”-The Wealth of Nations
GN, all I had to do was google the site name and LGF, and lo and behold, there they were. As you might have done yourself, ya lazy fuck!
Fluffy
Try googling "Adam Smith" and actually learning a little about the foundations of free market theory. Time much better spent, I think, than worrying about what Atrios might have said last year about your cult. Perhaps then you might compare your endorsement of the Bush administration's shenanigans with free market theory.
“Wherever there is great property there is great inequality. Civil government, so far as it is instituted for the security of property, is in reality, instituted for the defence of the rich against the poor, or of those who have some property against those who have none at all…Perfect liberty can never happen if government heeds or is entrusted to the mean rapacity, the monopolizing spirit of merchants and manufacturers who neither are, nor ought to be the rulers of mankind.”-The Wealth of Nations
MYOB, that sounds kind of fishy to me... unless you know this guy pretty well, he's full of shit.
First, these guys are unlikely to know who and who has not been secretly arrested.
Second, if they did, they probably would suffer some kind of penalty if they were loosely spreading word about this.
Third, this kind of info would have gotten back to the bitch who wrote the fucked up article, and she would have been singing sweet victory songs!
MYOB, that sounds kind of fishy to me... unless you know this guy pretty well, he's full of shit.
First, these guys are unlikely to know who and who has not been secretly arrested.
Second, if they did, they probably would suffer some kind of penalty if they were loosely spreading word about this.
Third, this kind of info would have gotten back to the bitch who wrote the fucked up article, and she would have been singing sweet victory songs!
What? Prometheus's organ isn't enough for you?
What a gluttonous vulture.
pie
Prometheus' organ? That's different from, say, a Hammond or a Lowry?
I heard about the horny nun who caught the parish priest by the organ.. but that's probably not it either...
hmmmm
What? Prometheus's organ isn't enough for you?
What a gluttonous vulture.
pie
Prometheus' organ? That's different from, say, a Hammond or a Lowry?
I heard about the horny nun who caught the parish priest by the organ.. but that's probably not it either...
hmmmm
Time much better spent, I think, than worrying about what Atrios might have said last year about your cult
HMMM gee, that's what I get for answering someone else's obviously false post about Kos and Atrios never mentioning LGF. A completely irrelevant aside on Adam Smith. Where are the fallacy police to rap this clown's knuckles?
Next time you feel like 'refuting' an obvious point, you fucking clown, at least try to read what comment the point was addressing.
Time much better spent, I think, than worrying about what Atrios might have said last year about your cult
HMMM gee, that's what I get for answering someone else's obviously false post about Kos and Atrios never mentioning LGF. A completely irrelevant aside on Adam Smith. Where are the fallacy police to rap this clown's knuckles?
Next time you feel like 'refuting' an obvious point, you fucking clown, at least try to read what comment the point was addressing.
Anybody seen NYMary lately?
Just wondering....
Anybody seen NYMary lately?
Just wondering....
steve simels, my husband is a real music fanatic. I'll have to have him look into the band. I love that song. Brings back great memories of a carefree life when everything seemed possible.
steve simels, my husband is a real music fanatic. I'll have to have him look into the band. I love that song. Brings back great memories of a carefree life when everything seemed possible.
Regarding the 14 musicians who terr'ized poor Annie with their reckless eyeballing and McDonald sacks.
The dingbat is STILL writing about it! Nothing from her about them being in custody and I think that if they were she would have said so.
A quick and dirty search on google turned up nothing recent either.
Regarding the 14 musicians who terr'ized poor Annie with their reckless eyeballing and McDonald sacks.
The dingbat is STILL writing about it! Nothing from her about them being in custody and I think that if they were she would have said so.
A quick and dirty search on google turned up nothing recent either.
"I'm having trouble finding hatred on a board largely made up of conversations about cat grooming,the Arizona landscape, and heavy metal bands. Maybe its just me."
And muffins! I'm jumping back and forth from here to making pineapple coconut muffins. Scary times here in Arizona....
"I'm having trouble finding hatred on a board largely made up of conversations about cat grooming,the Arizona landscape, and heavy metal bands. Maybe its just me."
And muffins! I'm jumping back and forth from here to making pineapple coconut muffins. Scary times here in Arizona....
your cult
More reading comp problems from the post-from-the-hip peanut gallery at eschaton. I JUST SAID I can't stand Charles Johnson. What part of that "both guys are asshole" is confusing to you asswipe?
your cult
More reading comp problems from the post-from-the-hip peanut gallery at eschaton. I JUST SAID I can't stand Charles Johnson. What part of that "both guys are asshole" is confusing to you asswipe?
Pie:
It was a real place, apparently, where
Brit hippies would sneak off to smoke
pot. In London, I think.
Pie:
It was a real place, apparently, where
Brit hippies would sneak off to smoke
pot. In London, I think.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals
I'd be more impressed if I weren't certain that the only reason you came here was to say that.
I came here to understand liberals and have some dialog, but there is nothing here. Just hate. Hate for Bush, freedom, the free market, God and morals
I'd be more impressed if I weren't certain that the only reason you came here was to say that.
A completely irrelevant aside on Adam Smith.
Just trying to help you out as a matter of fact; I actually believe that even vitriolic jackasses like you can and should be salvaged with access to knowledge and wisdom. As for your asinine fixation on Atrios' mention of LGF, I could have sworn that the last comment on the subject conceded that Atrios might have mentioned LGF a few times, but that there is a large disparity between how much Atrios bothers to mention LGF and how much LGF seems to mention Eschaton. You pretty much confirmed this commenter's assertion. More importantly, does Smith's quote warning against the dangers of corporate ownership of a government square with the Bush administration's shenanigans?
A completely irrelevant aside on Adam Smith.
Just trying to help you out as a matter of fact; I actually believe that even vitriolic jackasses like you can and should be salvaged with access to knowledge and wisdom. As for your asinine fixation on Atrios' mention of LGF, I could have sworn that the last comment on the subject conceded that Atrios might have mentioned LGF a few times, but that there is a large disparity between how much Atrios bothers to mention LGF and how much LGF seems to mention Eschaton. You pretty much confirmed this commenter's assertion. More importantly, does Smith's quote warning against the dangers of corporate ownership of a government square with the Bush administration's shenanigans?
Nothing from her about them being in custody and I think that if they were she would have said so.
Exactly. Although how many people were hauled off only to have charges dropped because there was no proof of any eeeeevil.
This country has gone bonkers. It's amazingly awful.
Nothing from her about them being in custody and I think that if they were she would have said so.
Exactly. Although how many people were hauled off only to have charges dropped because there was no proof of any eeeeevil.
This country has gone bonkers. It's amazingly awful.
It was a real place, apparently, where
Brit hippies would sneak off to smoke
pot.
Until the song was written?
It was a real place, apparently, where
Brit hippies would sneak off to smoke
pot.
Until the song was written?
steve simels sez:
Anybody seen NYMary lately?
Just wondering....
Thersites lost her. Don't till anybody. He's still looking.
.
steve simels sez:
Anybody seen NYMary lately?
Just wondering....
Thersites lost her. Don't till anybody. He's still looking.
.
So it is now the position of the regulars on this blog that Bush stole THIS election as well!!????
Can't speak for others, but I fully believe that Bush stole both elections.
Sweet merciful Jesus. Please save the Democratic Party from these lunatics. This is my Christmas wish.
Wonder if Jesus would really jive with the GOP? Wonder if Jesus would endorse a government so corrupt that corporations affiliated with a political party are actually allowed to count votes in an election? Perhaps you and I worship a different Jesus.
So it is now the position of the regulars on this blog that Bush stole THIS election as well!!????
Can't speak for others, but I fully believe that Bush stole both elections.
Sweet merciful Jesus. Please save the Democratic Party from these lunatics. This is my Christmas wish.
Wonder if Jesus would really jive with the GOP? Wonder if Jesus would endorse a government so corrupt that corporations affiliated with a political party are actually allowed to count votes in an election? Perhaps you and I worship a different Jesus.
ATablaRasa - Listen, my best suggestion is that you move out here and visit before you decide. Also, rentals are just incredibly cheap everywhere - the buying market is flooded and apartments are trying to compete, so it's easy to take a six month lease and scout around. For fun, go to realtor.com and search on zipcodes 85008, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 09, 13, 15, 17 - those are the Central zipcodes. Look at a mapquest map and do some calculating, understanding that in Phoenix, we didn't have freeways until recently and so the fastest routes are on the surface, in town. The city tho is roughly 50 miles across these days - being fixed at point A and commuting to point C when you could half that distance just doesn't seem right to me.
Muffins are ready!
ATablaRasa - Listen, my best suggestion is that you move out here and visit before you decide. Also, rentals are just incredibly cheap everywhere - the buying market is flooded and apartments are trying to compete, so it's easy to take a six month lease and scout around. For fun, go to realtor.com and search on zipcodes 85008, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 09, 13, 15, 17 - those are the Central zipcodes. Look at a mapquest map and do some calculating, understanding that in Phoenix, we didn't have freeways until recently and so the fastest routes are on the surface, in town. The city tho is roughly 50 miles across these days - being fixed at point A and commuting to point C when you could half that distance just doesn't seem right to me.
Muffins are ready!
QuiltLady - Look, Bush only won Dallas County, Texas by 1 percentage point. Kerry carried the city of Dallas.
Things are not as bad as the red/blue map and the yapping terriers of christ would have us believe.
QuiltLady - Look, Bush only won Dallas County, Texas by 1 percentage point. Kerry carried the city of Dallas.
Things are not as bad as the red/blue map and the yapping terriers of christ would have us believe.
Pie:
Guess so.
Heh heh.
The Small Faces also had another
cool drug song called "Here Come
the Nice."
The Nice were speed dealers.
Pie:
Guess so.
Heh heh.
The Small Faces also had another
cool drug song called "Here Come
the Nice."
The Nice were speed dealers.
Sweet merciful Jesus. Please save the Democratic Party from these lunatics.
And Jesus was also considered a lunatic by those whose power he subverted.
Sweet merciful Jesus. Please save the Democratic Party from these lunatics.
And Jesus was also considered a lunatic by those whose power he subverted.
What part of that "both guys are asshole" is confusing to you asswipe?
Fluffy
I can't speak for anyone else...but in my case, what's "confusing" is your apparent idea that anyone on earth should give two fucks about your opinion.
What part of that "both guys are asshole" is confusing to you asswipe?
Fluffy
I can't speak for anyone else...but in my case, what's "confusing" is your apparent idea that anyone on earth should give two fucks about your opinion.
where is enraged water heater?
where is enraged water heater?
the yapping terriers of christ
Oh, that's just a fabulous description! hahaha!
the yapping terriers of christ
Oh, that's just a fabulous description! hahaha!
"GN, all I had to do was google the site name and LGF, and lo and behold, there they were. As you might have done yourself, ya lazy fuck!
Fluffy"
Using same method,
Times Atrios mentioned LGF: 3
Time LGF mentioned Atrios: 149
And all those KOS references? Most are from 'Diaries', not Markos.
Squeaky is obsessed with Atrios and Kos. He's probably getting desperate with his page views shrinking daily. Probably not making his 'sponsors' happy (although the weakening dollar probably helps).
"GN, all I had to do was google the site name and LGF, and lo and behold, there they were. As you might have done yourself, ya lazy fuck!
Fluffy"
Using same method,
Times Atrios mentioned LGF: 3
Time LGF mentioned Atrios: 149
And all those KOS references? Most are from 'Diaries', not Markos.
Squeaky is obsessed with Atrios and Kos. He's probably getting desperate with his page views shrinking daily. Probably not making his 'sponsors' happy (although the weakening dollar probably helps).
GWPDA, I love your recipe postings--I've saved several of them. My two eldest children are arriving in the very red state of TN on Sunday. I'm going to make them the shrimp and black bean cakes next week. My son is in Tucson, so he'll appreciate this dish, as will I.
On another note, I wake up every morning and still can't believe GWB will be our president for the next four years. I like to think this election was stolen like the last one. It is the only thing that keeps me sane.
GWPDA, I love your recipe postings--I've saved several of them. My two eldest children are arriving in the very red state of TN on Sunday. I'm going to make them the shrimp and black bean cakes next week. My son is in Tucson, so he'll appreciate this dish, as will I.
On another note, I wake up every morning and still can't believe GWB will be our president for the next four years. I like to think this election was stolen like the last one. It is the only thing that keeps me sane.
BTW, the 2002 election was obviously
stolen as well.
BTW, the 2002 election was obviously
stolen as well.
GWPDA - I would not recommend bathing with a cat. Not in the tub, not in the shower. They are not dogs. They have sharp claws, they hate water, and they are apt to go insane when water touches them.
Incog - do not try to bathe String at the same time you bathe yourself - you will be shredded.
GWPDA - I would not recommend bathing with a cat. Not in the tub, not in the shower. They are not dogs. They have sharp claws, they hate water, and they are apt to go insane when water touches them.
Incog - do not try to bathe String at the same time you bathe yourself - you will be shredded.
And I am still trying to figure out what the hell they plan on doing with NYC. We are eight million people. They depend on us to support their lifestyle so they can't just nuke us. For all of Giuliani's life style policing, you still can't get people to wait for a green light when crossing the street.
And I am still trying to figure out what the hell they plan on doing with NYC. We are eight million people. They depend on us to support their lifestyle so they can't just nuke us. For all of Giuliani's life style policing, you still can't get people to wait for a green light when crossing the street.
BTW, the 2002 election was obviously
stolen as well.
heh.
BTW, the 2002 election was obviously
stolen as well.
heh.
mer that's very good! Canned black beans, very well washed, work quite nicely - and even in TN (did I mention a family connexion to Pillow Landing?) I think you can get Baca's frozen green chile, rather than the canned, salted stuff. It'll make all the difference.
mer that's very good! Canned black beans, very well washed, work quite nicely - and even in TN (did I mention a family connexion to Pillow Landing?) I think you can get Baca's frozen green chile, rather than the canned, salted stuff. It'll make all the difference.
Konopelli - You left off Sweet Jane. You have to have Sweet Jane. And now that I think of it, the Velvet Underground's Heroin needs to go a Hooked on Drugs compilation.
Konopelli - You left off Sweet Jane. You have to have Sweet Jane. And now that I think of it, the Velvet Underground's Heroin needs to go a Hooked on Drugs compilation.
Speaking of LGF...earlier this morning, I was writing a post on the latest gyrations of noted Rev. Moon acolyte Curt Weldon, who claims to have inside information that the Iranians are going to attack New Hampshire. In the process, I happened to read the LGF gang on Weldon's theory...they seemed to think he was completely full of shit, and a book-flogging opportunist to boot. It was possibly the only time I've ever agreed with that gaggle of pea-brained zombies.
Speaking of LGF...earlier this morning, I was writing a post on the latest gyrations of noted Rev. Moon acolyte Curt Weldon, who claims to have inside information that the Iranians are going to attack New Hampshire. In the process, I happened to read the LGF gang on Weldon's theory...they seemed to think he was completely full of shit, and a book-flogging opportunist to boot. It was possibly the only time I've ever agreed with that gaggle of pea-brained zombies.
"do not try to bathe String at the same time you bathe yourself - you will be shredded."
Tee-hee.....
"do not try to bathe String at the same time you bathe yourself - you will be shredded."
Tee-hee.....
Tena:
Four words.
White Light, White Heat.
Tena:
Four words.
White Light, White Heat.
Anyone remember that great song from Billy Jack-"one Tin Soldier"? I think about it a lot because of the war-haven't heard it in years-In Miami in '69 we referred to the park in Coconut Grove as Itchykoo Park-it was a fun hippy hangout. Thanks for the memory.
Anyone remember that great song from Billy Jack-"one Tin Soldier"? I think about it a lot because of the war-haven't heard it in years-In Miami in '69 we referred to the park in Coconut Grove as Itchykoo Park-it was a fun hippy hangout. Thanks for the memory.
the yapping terriers of christ
Oh, that's just a fabulous description! hahaha!
pie
Especially anyone familiar with their hygene habits. Never let a terrier lick your face is all I'm going to say.
Incog - do not try to bathe String at the same time you bathe yourself - you will be shredded.
Damn,Tena, instinctively crossed my legs after reading that.
the yapping terriers of christ
Oh, that's just a fabulous description! hahaha!
pie
Especially anyone familiar with their hygene habits. Never let a terrier lick your face is all I'm going to say.
Incog - do not try to bathe String at the same time you bathe yourself - you will be shredded.
Damn,Tena, instinctively crossed my legs after reading that.
GWPDA, thanks for the tip(s). Pillow Landing? Never heard of it. I'm in Knoxville.
GWPDA, thanks for the tip(s). Pillow Landing? Never heard of it. I'm in Knoxville.
Using same method,
Insider, you said "not once". You were wrong, sorry. You might also combine results for "Little Green footballs" "Charles Johnson" "Little Green Raelians" etc etc etc.
you guys have an obvious hard on for LGF for one simple reason: he's a near perfect straw man.
Philalethes, you cared enough to write your pointless little jab. Don't you have your own blog-audience to bore?
Using same method,
Insider, you said "not once". You were wrong, sorry. You might also combine results for "Little Green footballs" "Charles Johnson" "Little Green Raelians" etc etc etc.
you guys have an obvious hard on for LGF for one simple reason: he's a near perfect straw man.
Philalethes, you cared enough to write your pointless little jab. Don't you have your own blog-audience to bore?
He's probably getting desperate with his page views shrinking daily.
All the little boyz might be worried about their lifespans with georgie the avenger back for four years.
The morons.
He's probably getting desperate with his page views shrinking daily.
All the little boyz might be worried about their lifespans with georgie the avenger back for four years.
The morons.
steve simels - Sweet.
steve simels - Sweet.
the Iranians are going to attack New Hampshire
Does he say where because I live just across the boundary line. I'd suspect the ship yard, only that's in Maine. Much to the irritation of New Hampshire tax cheats.
the Iranians are going to attack New Hampshire
Does he say where because I live just across the boundary line. I'd suspect the ship yard, only that's in Maine. Much to the irritation of New Hampshire tax cheats.
you guys have an obvious hard on for LGF for one simple reason: he's a near perfect straw man.
Why the sexual reference to a website? My goodness, but you're sick.
you guys have an obvious hard on for LGF for one simple reason: he's a near perfect straw man.
Why the sexual reference to a website? My goodness, but you're sick.
Roberta sez:
Anyone remember that great song from Billy Jack-"one Tin Soldier"?
Now, this is just wrong.
,
Roberta sez:
Anyone remember that great song from Billy Jack-"one Tin Soldier"?
Now, this is just wrong.
,
Rush FUCKING limbaugh is back on the "meds".
He writes this:
The real question to me today is not, "Is this the worst partisan divide we've ever had or is it as bad as any other?" but it is the nature of the partisan divide that exists in this country today. I think the "partisan divide," you can simplify it. I think you could really cut to the chase and boil it all down by saying that the nature of the partisan divide today is, on the left you have a significant number of people who do not believe in this country. They just don't. They find fault with this country. They are trying desperately to change this country to accommodate whatever their version of values or whatever. They are not traditionalists. They're not interested in the past.
They're not interested in the institutions and traditions that made the country great, such as the founding documents. They are more in favor of changing the Constitution.
They're more in favor of blurring it and watering it down because it stands in the way of what they want.
The people on the other side of the divide -- you could call them conservatives, just for the sake of this conversation -- are actually formed, their foundation is the Constitution, and the Founding Documents, and the traditions, and the institutions that made this country great.
Uhh. Yea. Democrats want to change the Constitution for flag burning, gay marriage and privacy laws. I forgot that.
Rush FUCKING limbaugh is back on the "meds".
He writes this:
The real question to me today is not, "Is this the worst partisan divide we've ever had or is it as bad as any other?" but it is the nature of the partisan divide that exists in this country today. I think the "partisan divide," you can simplify it. I think you could really cut to the chase and boil it all down by saying that the nature of the partisan divide today is, on the left you have a significant number of people who do not believe in this country. They just don't. They find fault with this country. They are trying desperately to change this country to accommodate whatever their version of values or whatever. They are not traditionalists. They're not interested in the past.
They're not interested in the institutions and traditions that made the country great, such as the founding documents. They are more in favor of changing the Constitution.
They're more in favor of blurring it and watering it down because it stands in the way of what they want.
The people on the other side of the divide -- you could call them conservatives, just for the sake of this conversation -- are actually formed, their foundation is the Constitution, and the Founding Documents, and the traditions, and the institutions that made this country great.
Uhh. Yea. Democrats want to change the Constitution for flag burning, gay marriage and privacy laws. I forgot that.
Is that the trade-off. The Iranians get NH we get what, Isfahan?
Is that the trade-off. The Iranians get NH we get what, Isfahan?
Never let a terrier lick your face is all I'm going to say.
Why do dogs lick their...
because they can!
Never let a terrier lick your face is all I'm going to say.
Why do dogs lick their...
because they can!
I think someone might have a crush on a certain someone else
I think someone might have a crush on a certain someone else
Foundling - Damn,Tena, instinctively crossed my legs after reading that.
Men! I didn't say Incog's wedding tackle would be shredded.
Foundling - Damn,Tena, instinctively crossed my legs after reading that.
Men! I didn't say Incog's wedding tackle would be shredded.
on the left you have a significant number of people who do not believe in this country. They just don't. They find fault with this country. They are trying desperately to change this country to accommodate whatever their version of values or whatever. They are not traditionalists. They're not interested in the past.
This is actually brilliant; if he changes "left" to "right" in the first sentence then he's really created an impressive analysis of the anti-Constitutionalist right.
on the left you have a significant number of people who do not believe in this country. They just don't. They find fault with this country. They are trying desperately to change this country to accommodate whatever their version of values or whatever. They are not traditionalists. They're not interested in the past.
This is actually brilliant; if he changes "left" to "right" in the first sentence then he's really created an impressive analysis of the anti-Constitutionalist right.
The Iranians get NH we get what, Isfahan?
If that's the case then Maine can join Canada afterall. So long, staters. Got to find a Mountie to turn myself in to.
The Iranians get NH we get what, Isfahan?
If that's the case then Maine can join Canada afterall. So long, staters. Got to find a Mountie to turn myself in to.
mer, sorry, wrong state. That's GA, not TN. I did have a cousin who taught in Knoxville tho.
And Quiltlady? We should be so lucky. NH is really nice, but Isfahan - ah, Isfahan....
mer, sorry, wrong state. That's GA, not TN. I did have a cousin who taught in Knoxville tho.
And Quiltlady? We should be so lucky. NH is really nice, but Isfahan - ah, Isfahan....
Why do dogs lick their...
With terriers it's worse than that. Nice little dogs but they give you a lot to ignore.
Why do dogs lick their...
With terriers it's worse than that. Nice little dogs but they give you a lot to ignore.
I think someone might have a crush on a certain someone else
Fluffy
Didn't bother to follow the link, but why are you so shallow, Fluffy? I thought you were priming up to engage in a real defense of your viewpoint, particularly, you're sinful invocation of "Jesus" in defense of Bush's electioneering. Obviously you are incapable and my apologies to you.
I think someone might have a crush on a certain someone else
Fluffy
Didn't bother to follow the link, but why are you so shallow, Fluffy? I thought you were priming up to engage in a real defense of your viewpoint, particularly, you're sinful invocation of "Jesus" in defense of Bush's electioneering. Obviously you are incapable and my apologies to you.
They are not traditionalists.
What a fucking asshole.
He sure does love to turn it around.
He's a sick bastard. Oxycotin must do that to him. He doesn't know up from down, left from right.
They are not traditionalists.
What a fucking asshole.
He sure does love to turn it around.
He's a sick bastard. Oxycotin must do that to him. He doesn't know up from down, left from right.
Men! I didn't say Incog's wedding tackle would be shredded.
Tena
Well I don't know, but that seems to be the lump under the covers they attack most ferociously.
Men! I didn't say Incog's wedding tackle would be shredded.
Tena
Well I don't know, but that seems to be the lump under the covers they attack most ferociously.
NH is really nice,
There are different opinions on that. To all the states around them they're a real pain in the ass, they're trying to annex Kittery, Maine right now as they've tried to annex parts of Mass. and VT.
It's the vampire state. Though they did give Craig Benson the boot last month.
NH is really nice,
There are different opinions on that. To all the states around them they're a real pain in the ass, they're trying to annex Kittery, Maine right now as they've tried to annex parts of Mass. and VT.
It's the vampire state. Though they did give Craig Benson the boot last month.
RedState - All you ever have to do to know what the right is up to is listen. They invariably accuse the left of exactly what they are up to themselves. That whole "change the constitution" thing is what they lust after, so they project it onto us. It's weird the extent to which they mirror us. It's just fucking weird.
They are so obsessed with us that they see everything in those terms. If the goddamned fundies and Bush Repugs weren't in charge, I can guarantee you that I would never think about them. I never used to. I never even considered Rush Limbaugh's existence at all until Bush took over.
But they will not let go of their obsession with us. I don't understand it.
RedState - All you ever have to do to know what the right is up to is listen. They invariably accuse the left of exactly what they are up to themselves. That whole "change the constitution" thing is what they lust after, so they project it onto us. It's weird the extent to which they mirror us. It's just fucking weird.
They are so obsessed with us that they see everything in those terms. If the goddamned fundies and Bush Repugs weren't in charge, I can guarantee you that I would never think about them. I never used to. I never even considered Rush Limbaugh's existence at all until Bush took over.
But they will not let go of their obsession with us. I don't understand it.
Fluffy -- LGF does a profound disservice to this country. It puts on display exactly the worst most rabid racists and empire enthusiasts, on a world-wide forum. Al-Qaeda must bless Johnson daily. Printouts of the hate messages make perfect recruting material, particularly the daily 'nuke mecca' messages.
Fluffy -- LGF does a profound disservice to this country. It puts on display exactly the worst most rabid racists and empire enthusiasts, on a world-wide forum. Al-Qaeda must bless Johnson daily. Printouts of the hate messages make perfect recruting material, particularly the daily 'nuke mecca' messages.
They are not traditionalists.
What a fucking asshole.
He sure does love to turn it around.
He's a whore. He doesn't believe what he's saying; he merely relies on the fools who lap this crap up so that he can maintain his position of prominence in the cult and continue to buy drugs. The only difference between Rush and any random drug-addicted hustler is the credulous audience.
They are not traditionalists.
What a fucking asshole.
He sure does love to turn it around.
He's a whore. He doesn't believe what he's saying; he merely relies on the fools who lap this crap up so that he can maintain his position of prominence in the cult and continue to buy drugs. The only difference between Rush and any random drug-addicted hustler is the credulous audience.
Obviously you are incapable and my apologies to you.
Apology accepted. From a guy too stupid to read or use a search engine that means a bunch.
Obviously you are incapable and my apologies to you.
Apology accepted. From a guy too stupid to read or use a search engine that means a bunch.
EPT, we have a Jack Russell, and he does like to lick parts. Let's just leave it there though.
EPT, we have a Jack Russell, and he does like to lick parts. Let's just leave it there though.
Plus they are the most conflicted bunch of people: we are vicious and we are pussies - which is it, Rush? They are oppressed in their practice of christianity but this is a christian nation, by god. It can't be both, you fuckwits.
I swearI can't believe their supporters don't see the inconsistencies in their message. Either we are French loving surrender monkeys or we are the greatest menace of all time - it can't be both. But they make those claims together every fucking day.
Plus they are the most conflicted bunch of people: we are vicious and we are pussies - which is it, Rush? They are oppressed in their practice of christianity but this is a christian nation, by god. It can't be both, you fuckwits.
I swearI can't believe their supporters don't see the inconsistencies in their message. Either we are French loving surrender monkeys or we are the greatest menace of all time - it can't be both. But they make those claims together every fucking day.
Apology accepted. From a guy too stupid to read or use a search engine that means a bunch.
Fluffy
Why do you hate this country, Fluffy? Why do you care more about whether Atrios mentioned your cult (and take that "I said I hate Charles" shit somewhere else; you clearly are a fan of LGF) than about the future of this country? Why do you hate America?
Apology accepted. From a guy too stupid to read or use a search engine that means a bunch.
Fluffy
Why do you hate this country, Fluffy? Why do you care more about whether Atrios mentioned your cult (and take that "I said I hate Charles" shit somewhere else; you clearly are a fan of LGF) than about the future of this country? Why do you hate America?
EPT - well, to the Westerners that just kind of sounds like manifest destiny writ small. I mean here, one day we're New Mexicans and a month later we're Arizonans, but before that we were in old Mexico or sort of California. You just have to deal with it the same way the Canadian consul did with me, in Buffalo - 'you Westerners don't pay any attention at all to that border, do you?' Nope. No point.
EPT - well, to the Westerners that just kind of sounds like manifest destiny writ small. I mean here, one day we're New Mexicans and a month later we're Arizonans, but before that we were in old Mexico or sort of California. You just have to deal with it the same way the Canadian consul did with me, in Buffalo - 'you Westerners don't pay any attention at all to that border, do you?' Nope. No point.
Can't tell you bummed I was to
discover recently that he's [Mike Nelson] a
a fundie who voted for bush.
I too was bummed.
But I decided there are some Republicans I can find humorous no matter there political beliefs -- Nelson and P.J. O'Rourke.
Besides, in all my years of watching them or reading his books, I've never seen Nelson really rant about right wing politics, he's simply very funny.
Can't tell you bummed I was to
discover recently that he's [Mike Nelson] a
a fundie who voted for bush.
I too was bummed.
But I decided there are some Republicans I can find humorous no matter there political beliefs -- Nelson and P.J. O'Rourke.
Besides, in all my years of watching them or reading his books, I've never seen Nelson really rant about right wing politics, he's simply very funny.
Fluffy, is that a reference to your hair or your ego?
Fluffy, is that a reference to your hair or your ego?
And who raised Spiro Agnew from the dead? I mean, the right is running around talking just like him - nattering nabobs and liberal elites are all things he used to rave about.
And who raised Spiro Agnew from the dead? I mean, the right is running around talking just like him - nattering nabobs and liberal elites are all things he used to rave about.
Fluffy, on behalf of everybody here,
let me say with all sincerity,
go fuck yourself.
And then get your creepy, mean spirited
reactionary
ass out of here, okay?
Fluffy, on behalf of everybody here,
let me say with all sincerity,
go fuck yourself.
And then get your creepy, mean spirited
reactionary
ass out of here, okay?
Apology accepted. From a guy too stupid to read or use a search engine that means a bunch.
Nothing says Total Prick like someone who accepts an apology so gracelessly.
Who raised you?
Apology accepted. From a guy too stupid to read or use a search engine that means a bunch.
Nothing says Total Prick like someone who accepts an apology so gracelessly.
Who raised you?
They are obsessed with us because they cannot gain or hold power without an enemy to demonize and use to whip up the fear.
They lost the communists, and within two short years, the enemy had become the liberals.
Then along came the terrorists, and notice how long it took them to equate liberals with terrorists.
That's it, in a nutshell.
They are obsessed with us because they cannot gain or hold power without an enemy to demonize and use to whip up the fear.
They lost the communists, and within two short years, the enemy had become the liberals.
Then along came the terrorists, and notice how long it took them to equate liberals with terrorists.
That's it, in a nutshell.
Nothing says Total Prick like someone who accepts an apology so gracelessly.
Or who stuffs their flightsuit so brazenly.
Nothing says Total Prick like someone who accepts an apology so gracelessly.
Or who stuffs their flightsuit so brazenly.
CNN is reporting that Pinochet had another stroke.
CNN is reporting that Pinochet had another stroke.
Hey, for all your special Xmas shopping pleasure, let me share the 2004 Annual Holiday Author Sale, at Greenwood Press. 50% off any GPG print title in stock, (Greenwood, Praeger, Libraries Unltd and all others) sale ends 30 Dec, use the secret code W111 at www.greenwood.com. Pretend you're an author tho.
Hey, for all your special Xmas shopping pleasure, let me share the 2004 Annual Holiday Author Sale, at Greenwood Press. 50% off any GPG print title in stock, (Greenwood, Praeger, Libraries Unltd and all others) sale ends 30 Dec, use the secret code W111 at www.greenwood.com. Pretend you're an author tho.
And who raised Spiro Agnew from the dead?
I did.
Sorry.
.
And who raised Spiro Agnew from the dead?
I did.
Sorry.
.
I used to raise Spiro Agnew from the dead/ Talk about feta cheese from a Greek!
I used to raise Spiro Agnew from the dead/ Talk about feta cheese from a Greek!
Obviously you are incapable and my apologies to you.
This is a graceful apology? Another idiot. Ah well.
Obviously you are incapable and my apologies to you.
This is a graceful apology? Another idiot. Ah well.
And who raised Spiro Agnew from the dead?
The chant for doing so is...
Domo merde
Nolo contendre!
And who raised Spiro Agnew from the dead?
The chant for doing so is...
Domo merde
Nolo contendre!
Four words.
White Light, White Heat.
Two words:
Murder Mystery.
Four words.
White Light, White Heat.
Two words:
Murder Mystery.
"Mr. Pinochet, we are recommending that you begin exhibiting the symptoms of a stroke. We must not let you get to trial. We'll get back to you shortly...
Get on the blower to Porter and tell him we have a situation."
"Mr. Pinochet, we are recommending that you begin exhibiting the symptoms of a stroke. We must not let you get to trial. We'll get back to you shortly...
Get on the blower to Porter and tell him we have a situation."
Insider, I dont know how many times I have to denounce LGF for it to get through. not least of which for his service as a straw man to the GN's and Atrioses of the world.
Insider, I dont know how many times I have to denounce LGF for it to get through. not least of which for his service as a straw man to the GN's and Atrioses of the world.
I agree with Jennifer.
I'm so thankful for voices like Bill Moyers, Brock, Atrios:
It's important to hear it clearly spelled out how the fraudulent Washington Times runs a smear story like the swiftboaters, etc. Then the scum like Rush, Hannity et al run with it to several million more people who are too swamped with with their own problems to know truth from lies. And then the god-awful mainstream media runs with it.
This needs to be repeated over and over, until everyone recognizes the right's slimy game for what it is, part of a traitorous anti-democratic power grab.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
I agree with Jennifer.
I'm so thankful for voices like Bill Moyers, Brock, Atrios:
It's important to hear it clearly spelled out how the fraudulent Washington Times runs a smear story like the swiftboaters, etc. Then the scum like Rush, Hannity et al run with it to several million more people who are too swamped with with their own problems to know truth from lies. And then the god-awful mainstream media runs with it.
This needs to be repeated over and over, until everyone recognizes the right's slimy game for what it is, part of a traitorous anti-democratic power grab.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Dave:
Good call!
Dave:
Good call!
And you can't have a "Hooked on Drugs" CD without "Fresh Air" by Quicksilver Messenger Service ("whoa, oh whoa whoa, have another hit!") and a great little ditty called "Acapulco Gold" ("I'm goin' south (south!) to get that - Acapulco Gold!"), done by some group whose name I can't recall in the style of a 1940s number...
Oh, and the whole first side of Firesign Theatre's "How Can You Be in Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All?"
And you can't have a "Hooked on Drugs" CD without "Fresh Air" by Quicksilver Messenger Service ("whoa, oh whoa whoa, have another hit!") and a great little ditty called "Acapulco Gold" ("I'm goin' south (south!) to get that - Acapulco Gold!"), done by some group whose name I can't recall in the style of a 1940s number...
Oh, and the whole first side of Firesign Theatre's "How Can You Be in Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All?"
They are so obsessed with us that they see everything in those terms.
That which you most firmly oppose, you most come to resemble. The corollary, of course, and the root, is that you most oppose that which you most resemble. Jung understood it well.
I swearI can't believe their supporters don't see the inconsistencies in their message. Either we are French loving surrender monkeys or we are the greatest menace of all time - it can't be both. But they make those claims together every fucking day.
It has nothing to do with reason. It has everything to do with fear.
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer..."
They are so obsessed with us that they see everything in those terms.
That which you most firmly oppose, you most come to resemble. The corollary, of course, and the root, is that you most oppose that which you most resemble. Jung understood it well.
I swearI can't believe their supporters don't see the inconsistencies in their message. Either we are French loving surrender monkeys or we are the greatest menace of all time - it can't be both. But they make those claims together every fucking day.
It has nothing to do with reason. It has everything to do with fear.
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer..."
Insider, I dont know how many times I have to denounce LGF for it to get through. not least of which for his service as a straw man to the GN's and Atrioses of the world.
Fluffy
Like I give a shit about LGF. I care about a vastly corrupt administration attempting to dismantle the Bill of Rights and apologists like you who are facilitating the radicalization of our political system. Fluffy, why do you hate this country? Why do you call those who, like Jesus, are resisting a corrupt administration, lunatics?
Insider, I dont know how many times I have to denounce LGF for it to get through. not least of which for his service as a straw man to the GN's and Atrioses of the world.
Fluffy
Like I give a shit about LGF. I care about a vastly corrupt administration attempting to dismantle the Bill of Rights and apologists like you who are facilitating the radicalization of our political system. Fluffy, why do you hate this country? Why do you call those who, like Jesus, are resisting a corrupt administration, lunatics?
GN, how often do you beat your wife? Why do you hate America? Why are you an anti-semite?
GN, how often do you beat your wife? Why do you hate America? Why are you an anti-semite?
Good call!
BTW, I got that album in a Woolworth's cut-out bin for 79 cents in 1973... still have it, I think!
Those were the days...
Good call!
BTW, I got that album in a Woolworth's cut-out bin for 79 cents in 1973... still have it, I think!
Those were the days...
This is a graceful apology? Another idiot. Ah well.
Fluffy
Fluffy, you are full of hate and fear. If you despise the commenters here so much, why do you insist on staying? I haven't seen you make one coherent point besides "people who think Bush stole the election are lunatics." Exactly what information are you trying to impart here?
This is a graceful apology? Another idiot. Ah well.
Fluffy
Fluffy, you are full of hate and fear. If you despise the commenters here so much, why do you insist on staying? I haven't seen you make one coherent point besides "people who think Bush stole the election are lunatics." Exactly what information are you trying to impart here?
Is Jesus, resisting, the administration ? You lost me several commas ago.
Is Jesus, resisting, the administration ? You lost me several commas ago.
Fluffy:
Nobody here likes you. Please go
away.
You'll feel better and we'll feel
better.
Fluffy:
Nobody here likes you. Please go
away.
You'll feel better and we'll feel
better.
We also should add probably the entire Thirteenth Floor Elevators' oeuvre. I think the whole first album is about drugs, since that's pretty much all that the Elevators were into.
Poor Roky.
And A Day in the Life - remember when the morality police got all huffy over it?
"Went upstairs and had a smoke, and somebody spoke and I went into a dream..."
We also should add probably the entire Thirteenth Floor Elevators' oeuvre. I think the whole first album is about drugs, since that's pretty much all that the Elevators were into.
Poor Roky.
And A Day in the Life - remember when the morality police got all huffy over it?
"Went upstairs and had a smoke, and somebody spoke and I went into a dream..."
And what the hell - Puff the Magic Dragon, too.
And what the hell - Puff the Magic Dragon, too.
Q: Why are conservatives like dogs wearing protective cones around their necks?
A: Because they really want to lick their own balls, but they can't.
Q: Why are conservatives like dogs wearing protective cones around their necks?
A: Because they really want to lick their own balls, but they can't.
GN... Why do you hate America?... Fluffy
Actually, I don't hate America. If I did then perhaps, like you, I might applaud politicians who gain power through deceit and trickery. I might applaud the dismantling of the Constitution. I would also wholly endorse crony capitalism. Do you have a point, Fluffy? Or are you just here to express your hate of America?
GN... Why do you hate America?... Fluffy
Actually, I don't hate America. If I did then perhaps, like you, I might applaud politicians who gain power through deceit and trickery. I might applaud the dismantling of the Constitution. I would also wholly endorse crony capitalism. Do you have a point, Fluffy? Or are you just here to express your hate of America?
And Buffy St. Marie's Codeine.
I have got to go get dressed. Make me stop - people will be here in an hour and a half.
And Buffy St. Marie's Codeine.
I have got to go get dressed. Make me stop - people will be here in an hour and a half.
watertiger-
Those cones? That's how I keep Bob in line. Otherwise he would be down there all the time.
-Liddy Dole
watertiger-
Those cones? That's how I keep Bob in line. Otherwise he would be down there all the time.
-Liddy Dole
Is Jesus, resisting, the administration ? You lost me several commas ago.
Fluffy
Why do you hate Jesus? You are here to upset and demonize those who challenge power. I would bet that you'd do the same to Jesus, who was executing for subverting corrupted power. Is that more clear, Fluffy?
Is Jesus, resisting, the administration ? You lost me several commas ago.
Fluffy
Why do you hate Jesus? You are here to upset and demonize those who challenge power. I would bet that you'd do the same to Jesus, who was executing for subverting corrupted power. Is that more clear, Fluffy?
Tena:
Love the Elevators.
BTW I had an idea for supergroup comprised
of musicians with mental problems --
Roky, Brian Wilson, Skip Spence from
Moby Grape, and the guy from the
original Fleetwood Mac who flipped
out and gave all his money away.
I was gonna call them the Unravelling
Wilburys.
Tena:
Love the Elevators.
BTW I had an idea for supergroup comprised
of musicians with mental problems --
Roky, Brian Wilson, Skip Spence from
Moby Grape, and the guy from the
original Fleetwood Mac who flipped
out and gave all his money away.
I was gonna call them the Unravelling
Wilburys.
A Day in the Life - remember when the morality police got all huffy over it?
I remember when a some fundamentalist group was putting out a whole series of paperback books in the early 70s "exposing" the drug-mind control-commie conspiracy to be found in rock music, the Beatles in particular. A few of the local religious fanatics at my high school tried to push them - unfortunately, I didn't get a couple of copies, 'cause I'd sure like to have them now!
I also remember Creem magazine doing a scathingly scornful interview with the head fanatic and writer.
A Day in the Life - remember when the morality police got all huffy over it?
I remember when a some fundamentalist group was putting out a whole series of paperback books in the early 70s "exposing" the drug-mind control-commie conspiracy to be found in rock music, the Beatles in particular. A few of the local religious fanatics at my high school tried to push them - unfortunately, I didn't get a couple of copies, 'cause I'd sure like to have them now!
I also remember Creem magazine doing a scathingly scornful interview with the head fanatic and writer.
Hey, Tena,
Was going to ask how the party planning was going.
And how's your m-i-l?
Hey, Tena,
Was going to ask how the party planning was going.
And how's your m-i-l?
"I have got to go get dressed. Make me stop - people will be here in an hour and a half."
Actually, Tena, I'm gonna recommend you instal a visually impaired software pack on your system - it'll read out (synthesised of course) all the comments as they come thru. That way, you can do things like live, whilst at the same time hearing the constant background of acute and neatly argued points running thru the Eschaton universe. There's every possibility it'd drive you crazy, but it'd sure be kuhl in the meantime. (No! No! Incog don't wash WITH the kitty! Use a washrag!)
Just a thought.
"I have got to go get dressed. Make me stop - people will be here in an hour and a half."
Actually, Tena, I'm gonna recommend you instal a visually impaired software pack on your system - it'll read out (synthesised of course) all the comments as they come thru. That way, you can do things like live, whilst at the same time hearing the constant background of acute and neatly argued points running thru the Eschaton universe. There's every possibility it'd drive you crazy, but it'd sure be kuhl in the meantime. (No! No! Incog don't wash WITH the kitty! Use a washrag!)
Just a thought.
Damn...I forgot to mention Syd
Barrett.
Damn...I forgot to mention Syd
Barrett.
Zort!
Zort!
Oh, and speaking of Brian Wilson (who my wife and I saw about a month ago on the "Smile" tour and he was fucking awesome), add "Wind Chimes" to that "Hooked on Drugs" CD - either (or both) the "Smile" or "Smiley Smile" versions. An ode to dope paranoia: "Though it's hard, I try not to look at my - wind chimes!"
Oh, and speaking of Brian Wilson (who my wife and I saw about a month ago on the "Smile" tour and he was fucking awesome), add "Wind Chimes" to that "Hooked on Drugs" CD - either (or both) the "Smile" or "Smiley Smile" versions. An ode to dope paranoia: "Though it's hard, I try not to look at my - wind chimes!"
S Simels-You also forgot to mention Barry Manilow.
S Simels-You also forgot to mention Barry Manilow.
mccartney says "got to get you into my life
' is about pot, and he didn't understand why no one got it---the song that is. some of us plainly got the pot.
mccartney says "got to get you into my life
' is about pot, and he didn't understand why no one got it---the song that is. some of us plainly got the pot.
GWPDA, is there a problem?!
GWPDA, is there a problem?!
I forgot to mention Syd Barrett.
Yeah, but Syd doesn't have any specific dope tunes, though "Bike" or "Jugband Blues" might come closest to a musical representation of his troubles...
I forgot to mention Syd Barrett.
Yeah, but Syd doesn't have any specific dope tunes, though "Bike" or "Jugband Blues" might come closest to a musical representation of his troubles...
Hmmm;interesting (well, to me at any rate)
On CNN.com, in a story abt Kansas' death penalty being declared unconstitutional due to violations of the 8th and 14th amendments, they say this:
"The 14th Amendment addresses guaranteed rights, due process and equal protection for U.S. citizens."
Sounded a bit off so I checked:
14th. Amendment
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Maybe i am being a nit-picker, but the last section DROPS "citizen" in favor of "person." This seems, to me, important and unlikely to sloppy writing by Jefferson et al.
But they pay people big bucks; why should they get it right?
Hmmm;interesting (well, to me at any rate)
On CNN.com, in a story abt Kansas' death penalty being declared unconstitutional due to violations of the 8th and 14th amendments, they say this:
"The 14th Amendment addresses guaranteed rights, due process and equal protection for U.S. citizens."
Sounded a bit off so I checked:
14th. Amendment
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Maybe i am being a nit-picker, but the last section DROPS "citizen" in favor of "person." This seems, to me, important and unlikely to sloppy writing by Jefferson et al.
But they pay people big bucks; why should they get it right?
you guys have an obvious hard on for LGF for one simple reason: he's a near perfect straw man.
Actually I probably agree with this troll. The guy who runs LGF is such a sick, evil racist fuck that hating him is almost as act of moral self-indulgence. It really is very, very easy.
So if he'd stop sending trolls to flood most of the big liberal blogs, I doubt anybody would think about him. And it's kind of hypocritcal of him to close registration and send his readers to disrupt discussions on other sites.
you guys have an obvious hard on for LGF for one simple reason: he's a near perfect straw man.
Actually I probably agree with this troll. The guy who runs LGF is such a sick, evil racist fuck that hating him is almost as act of moral self-indulgence. It really is very, very easy.
So if he'd stop sending trolls to flood most of the big liberal blogs, I doubt anybody would think about him. And it's kind of hypocritcal of him to close registration and send his readers to disrupt discussions on other sites.
pie, you don't like the idea of an audio Eschaton? Just a thought....
pie, you don't like the idea of an audio Eschaton? Just a thought....
Dave:
BTW, there's a terrific documentary
on Syd just out on DVD....it was
done for British television, and it's
got great footage of early Floyd.
Dave:
BTW, there's a terrific documentary
on Syd just out on DVD....it was
done for British television, and it's
got great footage of early Floyd.
you don't like the idea of an audio Eschaton?
Um, no, darling.
you don't like the idea of an audio Eschaton?
Um, no, darling.
Oh. sweet Jeebus, bebe rebozo is back to dole out more nightmares.
Liddy Dole is a saint! A saint I tell you!
.
Oh. sweet Jeebus, bebe rebozo is back to dole out more nightmares.
Liddy Dole is a saint! A saint I tell you!
.
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Maybe i am being a nit-picker, but the last section DROPS "citizen" in favor of "person."
It gets worse. The language of the 14th amendment is, in part (I think), the basis for the Supremes ruling contra "enemy combatants" at Gitmo.
A ruling Bush&Co are blithely, and deliberately, ignoring.
nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Maybe i am being a nit-picker, but the last section DROPS "citizen" in favor of "person."
It gets worse. The language of the 14th amendment is, in part (I think), the basis for the Supremes ruling contra "enemy combatants" at Gitmo.
A ruling Bush&Co are blithely, and deliberately, ignoring.
What does LGF stand for? BTW, i agree that hating 'evil' racist guys is a waste. It's like hating a dog with rabies.
What does LGF stand for? BTW, i agree that hating 'evil' racist guys is a waste. It's like hating a dog with rabies.
Maybe i am being a nit-picker, but the last section DROPS "citizen" in favor of "person." This seems, to me, important and unlikely to sloppy writing by Jefferson et al.
The Bush administration has made it pretty clear that the 4th, 5th and 14th amendments don't really apply to anyone "in wartime," much less to non-citizens.
Maybe i am being a nit-picker, but the last section DROPS "citizen" in favor of "person." This seems, to me, important and unlikely to sloppy writing by Jefferson et al.
The Bush administration has made it pretty clear that the 4th, 5th and 14th amendments don't really apply to anyone "in wartime," much less to non-citizens.
Another one:
One toke over the line.
Another one:
One toke over the line.
spork_incident-Liddy Dole is a saint like shit is caviar.
spork_incident-Liddy Dole is a saint like shit is caviar.
What does LGF stand for? BTW, i agree that hating 'evil' racist guys is a waste. It's like hating a dog with rabies.
Visual Politics | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:43 pm | #
Then again, have you seen that poll about how 50% of the American people want to see Muslims have to register with their local governments?
So it's not a waste of time keeping an eye on hate sites.
What does LGF stand for? BTW, i agree that hating 'evil' racist guys is a waste. It's like hating a dog with rabies.
Visual Politics | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:43 pm | #
Then again, have you seen that poll about how 50% of the American people want to see Muslims have to register with their local governments?
So it's not a waste of time keeping an eye on hate sites.
Fluffy, I thought I recognized you. Good to know you're still hard at it!
Everyone else, here's a link to an interesting article by a far right Christian conservative who woke up one day and noticed that (gasp!) BushCo is cynically using the Religious Right to advance its own secular agenda.
Fluffy, I thought I recognized you. Good to know you're still hard at it!
Everyone else, here's a link to an interesting article by a far right Christian conservative who woke up one day and noticed that (gasp!) BushCo is cynically using the Religious Right to advance its own secular agenda.
What does LGF stand for?
Little Gerbil Fuckers?
What does LGF stand for?
Little Gerbil Fuckers?
Sweet jesus.
Sweet jesus.
Oh, poor Pinochet. An old sick man with a stroke. I feel sorry for him.
No, I don't.
Oh, poor Pinochet. An old sick man with a stroke. I feel sorry for him.
No, I don't.
The NeoConfederates consider the entire constitution to be an obstacle. I don't know exactly what they have in mind, but it definitely involves ultimate consolidation of power and the disenfranchisement of everyone but their inner circle.
The NeoConfederates consider the entire constitution to be an obstacle. I don't know exactly what they have in mind, but it definitely involves ultimate consolidation of power and the disenfranchisement of everyone but their inner circle.
Hey kids -- it's been fun as usual,
but I gotta go.
As always, I exect everyone to wang
chung tonight in my absence.
Hey kids -- it's been fun as usual,
but I gotta go.
As always, I exect everyone to wang
chung tonight in my absence.
A ruling Bush&Co are blithely, and deliberately, ignoring.
Robert M. Jeffers
"In the 6-3 ruling, the court wrote that these alleged unlawful enemy combatants [Gunatanamo prisoners] are entitled -- ''no less than American citizens'' -- to challenge the evidence against them, among other rights.
Yet...a recent brief by the Bush administration pretends there was no such Supreme Court decision. The government stated that ''the notion that the U.S. Constitution affords due process and other rights to enemy aliens captured abroad and confined outside the sovereign territory of the United States is contrary to law and history'' -- an argument the Supreme Court smacked down."
A ruling Bush&Co are blithely, and deliberately, ignoring.
Robert M. Jeffers
"In the 6-3 ruling, the court wrote that these alleged unlawful enemy combatants [Gunatanamo prisoners] are entitled -- ''no less than American citizens'' -- to challenge the evidence against them, among other rights.
Yet...a recent brief by the Bush administration pretends there was no such Supreme Court decision. The government stated that ''the notion that the U.S. Constitution affords due process and other rights to enemy aliens captured abroad and confined outside the sovereign territory of the United States is contrary to law and history'' -- an argument the Supreme Court smacked down."
It's the techno-nerd in me - combined with gradually diminishing sight - seemed neat. Oh well.
It's the techno-nerd in me - combined with gradually diminishing sight - seemed neat. Oh well.
What does LGF stand for? BTW, i agree that hating 'evil' racist guys is a waste. It's like hating a dog with rabies.
Visual Politics | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:43 pm | #
Then again, have you seen that poll about how 50% of the American people want to see Muslims have to register with their local governments?
So it's not a waste of time keeping an eye on hate sites.
It's not a waste to keep a close watch on the social networks of the racist and criminally insane, but it's a waste of your spiritual energy to hate them.
What does LGF stand for? BTW, i agree that hating 'evil' racist guys is a waste. It's like hating a dog with rabies.
Visual Politics | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:43 pm | #
Then again, have you seen that poll about how 50% of the American people want to see Muslims have to register with their local governments?
So it's not a waste of time keeping an eye on hate sites.
It's not a waste to keep a close watch on the social networks of the racist and criminally insane, but it's a waste of your spiritual energy to hate them.
When Liddy runs, you can hear her labia flapping back and forth --sort of like a waddle-times-two on a turkey.
When Liddy runs, you can hear her labia flapping back and forth --sort of like a waddle-times-two on a turkey.
The NeoConfederates consider the entire constitution to be an obstacle.
That's why it's so amazing to hear "patriots" endorse neocon shenanigans while screaming about preservation of freedoms.
The NeoConfederates consider the entire constitution to be an obstacle.
That's why it's so amazing to hear "patriots" endorse neocon shenanigans while screaming about preservation of freedoms.
It's not a waste to keep a close watch on the social networks of the racist and criminally insane, but it's a waste of your spiritual energy to hate them.
Visual Politics | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:53 pm | #
Hate and aggression are a part of life. It's more of a waste of your spiritual energy to try to deny them.
It's not a waste to keep a close watch on the social networks of the racist and criminally insane, but it's a waste of your spiritual energy to hate them.
Visual Politics | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:53 pm | #
Hate and aggression are a part of life. It's more of a waste of your spiritual energy to try to deny them.
I was going to offer to Incog that if he had to wash Stringey, the best way to do it, literally, is to wash off with him. All mammals together, eh?
Seconded. That's what Mrs P (registered cat-washer) does.
I was going to offer to Incog that if he had to wash Stringey, the best way to do it, literally, is to wash off with him. All mammals together, eh?
Seconded. That's what Mrs P (registered cat-washer) does.
Philalethes - Wow, quite an editorial by the gentleman. I suddenly am imbued with a great deal of hope. Maybe there are others like him out there.
(I've done the hard parts - makeup, hair. I'm not going to change my clothes for another half hour, so I'm baaaaack."
Philalethes - Wow, quite an editorial by the gentleman. I suddenly am imbued with a great deal of hope. Maybe there are others like him out there.
(I've done the hard parts - makeup, hair. I'm not going to change my clothes for another half hour, so I'm baaaaack."
Damn, GWPDA
Washrag! You are first person outside of my family that I have ever heard call a wash cloth that. When I was a kid, my mom would wet a washrag and we would pass it around the table when we ate supper. "Please pass the washrag." No napkins when there was family only. Kinda like Tena mentioning the sprinkle bottle a couple of weeks ago. I love you guys/girls.
Damn, GWPDA
Washrag! You are first person outside of my family that I have ever heard call a wash cloth that. When I was a kid, my mom would wet a washrag and we would pass it around the table when we ate supper. "Please pass the washrag." No napkins when there was family only. Kinda like Tena mentioning the sprinkle bottle a couple of weeks ago. I love you guys/girls.
Hate and aggression are natural emotions arising from fear. Fear is draining and wasteful.
You're right though, stifling or denying what spontaneously comes up inside you is also a waste. You have enough opposition in life without self-opposition.
Go ahead and 'hate' Bush, but keep in mind, it might indicate that you need to take a rest from the political struggle, and to experience something life-affirming and recreational.
Hopefully you'll find balance in your activism so you're not wasting energy in desperate states of being, like fear and hatred.
Sustainability requires your activism is pursued within the operational constraints of homeostatic balance.
Hate and aggression are natural emotions arising from fear. Fear is draining and wasteful.
You're right though, stifling or denying what spontaneously comes up inside you is also a waste. You have enough opposition in life without self-opposition.
Go ahead and 'hate' Bush, but keep in mind, it might indicate that you need to take a rest from the political struggle, and to experience something life-affirming and recreational.
Hopefully you'll find balance in your activism so you're not wasting energy in desperate states of being, like fear and hatred.
Sustainability requires your activism is pursued within the operational constraints of homeostatic balance.
Hecate sez:
Oh, poor Pinochet. An old sick man with a stroke. I feel sorry for him.
No, I don't
Oh, sure, he killed thousands, but he's old. And Infirm. So, isn't that the important thing? I mean, it's not like any of us would want him swinging from the gallows. And especially not swinging from the gallows with Henry Kissinger. Because that would be wrong. Really.
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Hecate sez:
Oh, poor Pinochet. An old sick man with a stroke. I feel sorry for him.
No, I don't
Oh, sure, he killed thousands, but he's old. And Infirm. So, isn't that the important thing? I mean, it's not like any of us would want him swinging from the gallows. And especially not swinging from the gallows with Henry Kissinger. Because that would be wrong. Really.
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Re: Philalethes' link to "I Am A Conservative Christian,
And The Religious Right Scares Me, Too"
From the article:
For one reason, on the whole, the Religious Right has obviously and patently become little more than a propaganda machine for the Republican Party ...Therefore, no longer does the Religious Right represent conservative, Christian values. Instead, they represent their own self-serving interests at the expense of those values.
Philalethes, this article is extremely interesting. At least Baldwin understands that he has been hustled in the name of Jesus. What I think that he doesn't get is that his entire theocratic ideology is both unconstitutional and highly immoral. Fundamentalists are vulnerable to use and abuse by powermongers like the GOP because they insist on spreading Christianity via the government. So long as they attempt to legislate zealotry, powermongering whores will continue to use them. So I kind of felt like, "okay, Baldwin, keep building your 'memorials to aborted babies' and convincing your flock that religion should have a strong governmental role. You are accomplishing nothing save the destruction of this country."
Re: Philalethes' link to "I Am A Conservative Christian,
And The Religious Right Scares Me, Too"
From the article:
For one reason, on the whole, the Religious Right has obviously and patently become little more than a propaganda machine for the Republican Party ...Therefore, no longer does the Religious Right represent conservative, Christian values. Instead, they represent their own self-serving interests at the expense of those values.
Philalethes, this article is extremely interesting. At least Baldwin understands that he has been hustled in the name of Jesus. What I think that he doesn't get is that his entire theocratic ideology is both unconstitutional and highly immoral. Fundamentalists are vulnerable to use and abuse by powermongers like the GOP because they insist on spreading Christianity via the government. So long as they attempt to legislate zealotry, powermongering whores will continue to use them. So I kind of felt like, "okay, Baldwin, keep building your 'memorials to aborted babies' and convincing your flock that religion should have a strong governmental role. You are accomplishing nothing save the destruction of this country."
What GN said.
What GN said.
Oh, have we seen the latest 'entertainment special' from the FOX network? 'Who's Your Daddy', where a woman who was adopted at birth has to guess her biological father from eight potential daddies.
Have we had a peep from FOX News about this?
Oh, have we seen the latest 'entertainment special' from the FOX network? 'Who's Your Daddy', where a woman who was adopted at birth has to guess her biological father from eight potential daddies.
Have we had a peep from FOX News about this?
site:atrios.blogspot.com "little green footballs"
site:atrios.blogspot.com "Charles Johnson"
site:atrios.blogspot.com LGF
Of eight (by my unoffical count) distinct posts:
One of the hits is actually a quote from someone else.
Another hit mentions LGF as a cite.
One is an indirect reference to LGF as a point of comparison for someone else's remarks.
One is a link to Dave Neiwart discussing LGF.
Four are direct references to Little Green Footballs.
site:atrios.blogspot.com "little green footballs"
site:atrios.blogspot.com "Charles Johnson"
site:atrios.blogspot.com LGF
Of eight (by my unoffical count) distinct posts:
One of the hits is actually a quote from someone else.
Another hit mentions LGF as a cite.
One is an indirect reference to LGF as a point of comparison for someone else's remarks.
One is a link to Dave Neiwart discussing LGF.
Four are direct references to Little Green Footballs.
Fluffy went to work at his regular job - as a 'fluffer'.
Fluffy went to work at his regular job - as a 'fluffer'.
Fear is draining and wasteful.
But fear like pain is also a survival instinct. Not being afraid of the obviously proto fascistic state of American culture post 9/11 is to ignore the canary that just died at the bottom of the coal mine.
Fear is draining and wasteful.
But fear like pain is also a survival instinct. Not being afraid of the obviously proto fascistic state of American culture post 9/11 is to ignore the canary that just died at the bottom of the coal mine.
Well, mer, nobody used that term outside of family, really. It just, um, implies a little too much about the social, um, setting, eh? Rather like my Grandmama swearing me to absolute silence when I discovered she was making corn dodger all for herself. Me, I didn't know what the issue was, then. Later on, I discovered that ladies of my Grandmama's ilk did not, ever, ever eat or even know about corn dodger - for God's sake, it's not even really fried mush, it's just meal and salt and water, fried. Fried fry, you might say. Declasse' you certainly would say.
Well, mer, nobody used that term outside of family, really. It just, um, implies a little too much about the social, um, setting, eh? Rather like my Grandmama swearing me to absolute silence when I discovered she was making corn dodger all for herself. Me, I didn't know what the issue was, then. Later on, I discovered that ladies of my Grandmama's ilk did not, ever, ever eat or even know about corn dodger - for God's sake, it's not even really fried mush, it's just meal and salt and water, fried. Fried fry, you might say. Declasse' you certainly would say.
first person outside of my family that I have ever heard call a wash cloth that.
That was what MY Mom called it and i occasionally still do. We lived in Hudson County, NJ; i wonder if it's regional?
first person outside of my family that I have ever heard call a wash cloth that.
That was what MY Mom called it and i occasionally still do. We lived in Hudson County, NJ; i wonder if it's regional?
GN,
I really don't think that poking a hole through the wall separating church and state will desteroy the state - rather it will destroy religion in the sense that Catholicism was pretty much wiped out during the French Revolution. As someone who abhors Fundementalist Religious Power of any stripe (muslim, jew, christian, hindu ANY KIND I say let the flood gates open with these nut cases. A good sweat can cure a fever and raging Politico-Religious Bullshit pandemonium in the US will eventually 'turn us back to where we want to be' (kudos to the Shakers).
GN,
I really don't think that poking a hole through the wall separating church and state will desteroy the state - rather it will destroy religion in the sense that Catholicism was pretty much wiped out during the French Revolution. As someone who abhors Fundementalist Religious Power of any stripe (muslim, jew, christian, hindu ANY KIND I say let the flood gates open with these nut cases. A good sweat can cure a fever and raging Politico-Religious Bullshit pandemonium in the US will eventually 'turn us back to where we want to be' (kudos to the Shakers).
GN - Yes, but at least the fundie has peeled himself off of Bush and that's a first step. Peel the fundies away from Bush and they go back to being the obnoxious political acitivists they've always been and they can be dealt with on that level. Right now it's just too much of a hundred headed hydra.
GN - Yes, but at least the fundie has peeled himself off of Bush and that's a first step. Peel the fundies away from Bush and they go back to being the obnoxious political acitivists they've always been and they can be dealt with on that level. Right now it's just too much of a hundred headed hydra.
cory, I think it's just country. Certainly none of my folk (well, other than my cousin who married into Campbell Soup) ever visited New Jersey. But country is everywhere, north by west by south by east.
cory, I think it's just country. Certainly none of my folk (well, other than my cousin who married into Campbell Soup) ever visited New Jersey. But country is everywhere, north by west by south by east.
Gay Congressman gets staff job:
http://fakeplasticnews.blogspot....g-
demotion.html
Gay Congressman gets staff job:
http://fakeplasticnews.blogspot....g-
demotion.html
"The 14th Amendment addresses guaranteed rights, due process and equal protection for U.S. citizens."
Sounded a bit off so I checked:
And you were right. It's a post-Civil War amendment, but its remit covers everyone within the US, regardless of his/her citizenship. So, I'm protected by the 14th, in spite of the fact my passport's burgundy.
On Pinochet: it'd be typical for the bastard to escape justice, even by dying. It makes me want to believe in an afterlife where the fucker can burn in hell. Or have his fingers cut off every day, only for them to grow back and be cut off again.
"The 14th Amendment addresses guaranteed rights, due process and equal protection for U.S. citizens."
Sounded a bit off so I checked:
And you were right. It's a post-Civil War amendment, but its remit covers everyone within the US, regardless of his/her citizenship. So, I'm protected by the 14th, in spite of the fact my passport's burgundy.
On Pinochet: it'd be typical for the bastard to escape justice, even by dying. It makes me want to believe in an afterlife where the fucker can burn in hell. Or have his fingers cut off every day, only for them to grow back and be cut off again.
GWPDA, I came to think of it (washrag) as a depression era concept. Waste not, want not. I was born in '49 in Minnesota. My family moved to TN the same year. My mom, 82, is still kicking up her heels and is one of the neatest women I know. Catholic, through and through, still irons the church linens every week. Voted for Kerry even though she opposes abortion. She told me every time she saw Bushwad on the TV, she changed the channel.
GWPDA, I came to think of it (washrag) as a depression era concept. Waste not, want not. I was born in '49 in Minnesota. My family moved to TN the same year. My mom, 82, is still kicking up her heels and is one of the neatest women I know. Catholic, through and through, still irons the church linens every week. Voted for Kerry even though she opposes abortion. She told me every time she saw Bushwad on the TV, she changed the channel.
Hooked on Drugs:
Mellow Yellow (Donovan)
Dr. Robert (Beatles)
Strawberry Wine (The Band)
Hooked on Drugs:
Mellow Yellow (Donovan)
Dr. Robert (Beatles)
Strawberry Wine (The Band)
Wolcott puts the Liberals Hate Christmas meme in its proper place with his delicious charm and wit. Go read!
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Wolcott puts the Liberals Hate Christmas meme in its proper place with his delicious charm and wit. Go read!
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I really don't think that poking a hole through the wall separating church and state will desteroy the state - rather it will destroy religion in the sense that Catholicism was pretty much wiped out during the French Revolution.
Or, possibly more satisfying -- destroy religion in the sense that Anglicanism is now more or less a traditional curiosity in the UK. Though you're more likely to see a French style revolt against the clerics in the US, I think it'd be more satisfying for Falwell and company to survive as figures of irrelevance and ridicule.
I really don't think that poking a hole through the wall separating church and state will desteroy the state - rather it will destroy religion in the sense that Catholicism was pretty much wiped out during the French Revolution.
Or, possibly more satisfying -- destroy religion in the sense that Anglicanism is now more or less a traditional curiosity in the UK. Though you're more likely to see a French style revolt against the clerics in the US, I think it'd be more satisfying for Falwell and company to survive as figures of irrelevance and ridicule.
Has there ever been a bigger case of philosophical schizophrenia than Fox Network vs. Fox News? (WSJ News vs Editorials, maybe?) A week or so ago on the Simpsons they were doing a show about a woman who was Marge's school newspaper partner who was now a famous national news reporter. They were talking about some scandal with Mayor Quimby and showed all the national and international news trucks and satellite dishes and then they said "and here's the Fox News Truck" and suddenly you hear "We Are the Champions" by Queen blaring and see a portion of this monstrous trailer with a huge "Bush-Cheney 04" logo on the side. The network always shows the opposite or the ugly truth of what the News Network is preaching. Maybe that is why Murdoc is so frikkin rich.
Has there ever been a bigger case of philosophical schizophrenia than Fox Network vs. Fox News? (WSJ News vs Editorials, maybe?) A week or so ago on the Simpsons they were doing a show about a woman who was Marge's school newspaper partner who was now a famous national news reporter. They were talking about some scandal with Mayor Quimby and showed all the national and international news trucks and satellite dishes and then they said "and here's the Fox News Truck" and suddenly you hear "We Are the Champions" by Queen blaring and see a portion of this monstrous trailer with a huge "Bush-Cheney 04" logo on the side. The network always shows the opposite or the ugly truth of what the News Network is preaching. Maybe that is why Murdoc is so frikkin rich.
Philalethes, this article is extremely interesting. At least Baldwin understands that he has been hustled in the name of Jesus. What I think that he doesn't get is that his entire theocratic ideology is both unconstitutional and highly immoral.
Oh, I'm sure he doesn't understand that at all. But the important thing is, he's realized that the GOP is NOT going to impose a theocracy, and that BushCo doesn't give a fuck about Jesus. That's a realization that needs to spread amongst these people as widely as possible. I look forward to their bitter divorce proceedings.
Part of the problem with waiting and waiting for a savior, I guess, is that you finally get so impatient you'll settle for the next glad-handing hustler that comes along.
But hey, if a two-bit fraud like Dubya can herd 'em along like this, they better start wondering how they're going to act when the Antichrist turns up! (In fact, the Religious Right's total lockstep with Bush's phony Christianity is probably the only thing that's ever made me think "Uh oh, what if that whole crazy Antichrist thing is true?")
Philalethes, this article is extremely interesting. At least Baldwin understands that he has been hustled in the name of Jesus. What I think that he doesn't get is that his entire theocratic ideology is both unconstitutional and highly immoral.
Oh, I'm sure he doesn't understand that at all. But the important thing is, he's realized that the GOP is NOT going to impose a theocracy, and that BushCo doesn't give a fuck about Jesus. That's a realization that needs to spread amongst these people as widely as possible. I look forward to their bitter divorce proceedings.
Part of the problem with waiting and waiting for a savior, I guess, is that you finally get so impatient you'll settle for the next glad-handing hustler that comes along.
But hey, if a two-bit fraud like Dubya can herd 'em along like this, they better start wondering how they're going to act when the Antichrist turns up! (In fact, the Religious Right's total lockstep with Bush's phony Christianity is probably the only thing that's ever made me think "Uh oh, what if that whole crazy Antichrist thing is true?")
Carpbasman, a single post would have sufficed.
I don't believe Atrios or Kos has ever mentioned LGF in a post.
Sheesh. Like pulling teeth.
Carpbasman, a single post would have sufficed.
I don't believe Atrios or Kos has ever mentioned LGF in a post.
Sheesh. Like pulling teeth.
I really don't think that poking a hole through the wall separating church and state will desteroy the state - rather it will destroy religion in the sense that Catholicism was pretty much wiped out during the French Revolution.
That is a really interesting point! I do still think that the fundamentalist-GOP alliance has been extremely destructive for the Constitution and has the potential for destroying the country. But I can also see (but perhaps not believe) your alternative: that a backlash against the destructive force of state-sanctioned fundamentalism will ensue, causing widespread skepticism of fundamentalism.
GN - Yes, but at least the fundie has peeled himself off of Bush and that's a first step. Peel the fundies away from Bush and they go back to being the obnoxious political acitivists they've always been and they can be dealt with on that level. Right now it's just too much of a hundred headed hydra.
Tena
That's why I almost always enjoy your comments, Tena. They serve as a reminder to me to try to keep my anger at bay and trust people to eventually come back to their senses. Although I was pissed that the fundie who wrote the article doesn't seem to "get it," I think you're right that any crumbling of the GOP-fundie alliance is a good thing. I'm just worried that until the fundies realize that theocratic states are unacceptable, we will continue to be assaulted with these bizarre and destructive powermonger-fundie alliances.
I really don't think that poking a hole through the wall separating church and state will desteroy the state - rather it will destroy religion in the sense that Catholicism was pretty much wiped out during the French Revolution.
That is a really interesting point! I do still think that the fundamentalist-GOP alliance has been extremely destructive for the Constitution and has the potential for destroying the country. But I can also see (but perhaps not believe) your alternative: that a backlash against the destructive force of state-sanctioned fundamentalism will ensue, causing widespread skepticism of fundamentalism.
GN - Yes, but at least the fundie has peeled himself off of Bush and that's a first step. Peel the fundies away from Bush and they go back to being the obnoxious political acitivists they've always been and they can be dealt with on that level. Right now it's just too much of a hundred headed hydra.
Tena
That's why I almost always enjoy your comments, Tena. They serve as a reminder to me to try to keep my anger at bay and trust people to eventually come back to their senses. Although I was pissed that the fundie who wrote the article doesn't seem to "get it," I think you're right that any crumbling of the GOP-fundie alliance is a good thing. I'm just worried that until the fundies realize that theocratic states are unacceptable, we will continue to be assaulted with these bizarre and destructive powermonger-fundie alliances.
mer - I really do think it's a hangover from a reality that we've moved past, except thru reference. We -used- rags, and we made rags out of worn out things. An old pillow case still had plenty of cloth in it that when neatly hemmed, would make a perfectly good washrag or dishrag. An old sheet could be pieced and turned into a quilt - or seamed up the middle and used even more. None of these items were ever sold in the store - except as cloth. But now, who on earth would do anything with an old sheet except dispose of it? There's very little actual cloth in it. We can go to the store and buy new. And we are all aware that polyester isn't the best thing for cleaning us, dishes or the furniture. Incidentally, you all need to look forward to a repeat of the great polyester debacle of the 70s - before too long, cotton will become, again, the prerogative of the armed forces.
mer - I really do think it's a hangover from a reality that we've moved past, except thru reference. We -used- rags, and we made rags out of worn out things. An old pillow case still had plenty of cloth in it that when neatly hemmed, would make a perfectly good washrag or dishrag. An old sheet could be pieced and turned into a quilt - or seamed up the middle and used even more. None of these items were ever sold in the store - except as cloth. But now, who on earth would do anything with an old sheet except dispose of it? There's very little actual cloth in it. We can go to the store and buy new. And we are all aware that polyester isn't the best thing for cleaning us, dishes or the furniture. Incidentally, you all need to look forward to a repeat of the great polyester debacle of the 70s - before too long, cotton will become, again, the prerogative of the armed forces.
Wolcott puts the Liberals Hate Christmas meme in its proper place with his delicious charm and wit. Go read!
Yay. He's on 'Topic A' tomorrow, too.
I mentioned elseblog that Americans have been arguing over the 'meaning of Christmas' since the 1600s. In fact, there were riots and church-burnings up until the 1800s, led by anti-Christmas Puritans.
(The first Congress met on Dec. 25, 1789, disdaining the 'English' celebration of Christmas Day.)
The 'traditional Christmas' arrived with Washington Irving, and especially with Charles Dickens. 'A Christmas Carol' doesn't mention Jesus. Dickens despised preachy evangelicals. Contemporary wingnuts called him 'godless'. Etc, etc.
But the notion that the 'American Christmas' is some kind of centuries-old religious tradition is... just a fucking myth.
Truly, the power of the left to 'oppress' the wingnuts appears to increase, the further they are from government. I wonder whether it's just... paranoia and rabble-rousing? No! Surely not!
Wolcott puts the Liberals Hate Christmas meme in its proper place with his delicious charm and wit. Go read!
Yay. He's on 'Topic A' tomorrow, too.
I mentioned elseblog that Americans have been arguing over the 'meaning of Christmas' since the 1600s. In fact, there were riots and church-burnings up until the 1800s, led by anti-Christmas Puritans.
(The first Congress met on Dec. 25, 1789, disdaining the 'English' celebration of Christmas Day.)
The 'traditional Christmas' arrived with Washington Irving, and especially with Charles Dickens. 'A Christmas Carol' doesn't mention Jesus. Dickens despised preachy evangelicals. Contemporary wingnuts called him 'godless'. Etc, etc.
But the notion that the 'American Christmas' is some kind of centuries-old religious tradition is... just a fucking myth.
Truly, the power of the left to 'oppress' the wingnuts appears to increase, the further they are from government. I wonder whether it's just... paranoia and rabble-rousing? No! Surely not!
cory, at least you don't have a family that calls it a "worsh rag" as mine does. That's a regionalism I could do with out. "He, you gonna worsh up before supper? Bring a worsh rag with you, would'ja?"
cory, at least you don't have a family that calls it a "worsh rag" as mine does. That's a regionalism I could do with out. "He, you gonna worsh up before supper? Bring a worsh rag with you, would'ja?"
Oh, I'm sure he doesn't understand that at all. But the important thing is, he's realized that the GOP is NOT going to impose a theocracy, and that BushCo doesn't give a fuck about Jesus...I look forward to their bitter divorce proceedings.
I kinda am too. Imagine just how bitter and nasty a Moon-Falwell-Robertson-Rove custody battle would be!
Oh, I'm sure he doesn't understand that at all. But the important thing is, he's realized that the GOP is NOT going to impose a theocracy, and that BushCo doesn't give a fuck about Jesus...I look forward to their bitter divorce proceedings.
I kinda am too. Imagine just how bitter and nasty a Moon-Falwell-Robertson-Rove custody battle would be!
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer..."
Robert M. Jeffers | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:22 pm | #
Robert, I dig your literary reference.
"Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer..."
Robert M. Jeffers | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:22 pm | #
Robert, I dig your literary reference.
...he's realized that the GOP is NOT going to impose a theocracy, and that BushCo doesn't give a fuck about Jesus. That's a realization that needs to spread amongst these people as widely as possible.
I just sent that link to several dozen people, and encouraged them to do the same.
I consider it my patriotic duty.... (OK, it's the best I can do a saturday night with a faceful of bourbon anyway.)
...he's realized that the GOP is NOT going to impose a theocracy, and that BushCo doesn't give a fuck about Jesus. That's a realization that needs to spread amongst these people as widely as possible.
I just sent that link to several dozen people, and encouraged them to do the same.
I consider it my patriotic duty.... (OK, it's the best I can do a saturday night with a faceful of bourbon anyway.)
the killing of Bobbi Jo Stinnett.
worst story of the year.
and the peterson trial replacement for the tabloids.
the killing of Bobbi Jo Stinnett.
worst story of the year.
and the peterson trial replacement for the tabloids.
Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer..."
Robert M. Jeffers | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:22 pm | #
Robert, I dig your literary reference.
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But don't the French call an orgasm a "little death" or something.
Fear is the little death. Fear is the mind-killer..."
Robert M. Jeffers | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 6:22 pm | #
Robert, I dig your literary reference.
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But don't the French call an orgasm a "little death" or something.
What I want to know is why Atrios has never commented on this!
From Pandagon
What I want to know is why Atrios has never commented on this!
From Pandagon
But the notion that the 'American Christmas' is some kind of centuries-old religious tradition is... just a fucking myth.
That was one of the lines that was being pushed on the military.com threads dealing with this. "Liberals want to overturn our ancient traditions! WAAAAAAH!"
In the first place, you dopes, we don't. In the second place, you don't have any ancient traditions.
I posted this 1633 anti-Christmas quote on Adventus, but I'll put it here, too:
"If we compare our Bacchanalian Christmasses and New Years Tides with these Saturnalia and Feasts of Janus, we shall finde such near affinitye betweene them both in regard of time (they being both in the end of December and on the first of January) and in their manner of solemnizing (both of them being spent in revelling, epicurisme, wantonnesse, idlenesse, dancing, drinking, stage-plaies, Masques, and carnall Pompe and Jollity), that we must needes conclude the one to be but the very ape or issue of the other....which should cause all pious Christians eternally to abominate them."
But the notion that the 'American Christmas' is some kind of centuries-old religious tradition is... just a fucking myth.
That was one of the lines that was being pushed on the military.com threads dealing with this. "Liberals want to overturn our ancient traditions! WAAAAAAH!"
In the first place, you dopes, we don't. In the second place, you don't have any ancient traditions.
I posted this 1633 anti-Christmas quote on Adventus, but I'll put it here, too:
"If we compare our Bacchanalian Christmasses and New Years Tides with these Saturnalia and Feasts of Janus, we shall finde such near affinitye betweene them both in regard of time (they being both in the end of December and on the first of January) and in their manner of solemnizing (both of them being spent in revelling, epicurisme, wantonnesse, idlenesse, dancing, drinking, stage-plaies, Masques, and carnall Pompe and Jollity), that we must needes conclude the one to be but the very ape or issue of the other....which should cause all pious Christians eternally to abominate them."
Ritchie Blackmore, who
is the real Nigel Tufnel.
Dumb as a sack of hammers.
Please, steve, say it isn't so. I'm not nearly the music nerds most folks here are, but I love his stuff. How could he be stupid?
Ritchie Blackmore, who
is the real Nigel Tufnel.
Dumb as a sack of hammers.
Please, steve, say it isn't so. I'm not nearly the music nerds most folks here are, but I love his stuff. How could he be stupid?
CNN, et al, being "tabloids".
CNN, et al, being "tabloids".
The network always shows the opposite or the ugly truth of what the News Network is preaching. Maybe that is why Murdoc is so frikkin rich.
Art | Email
Murdoch is so freakin' rich because he knows what people want, and has absolutely no compunctions about giving it to them.
The network always shows the opposite or the ugly truth of what the News Network is preaching. Maybe that is why Murdoc is so frikkin rich.
Art | Email
Murdoch is so freakin' rich because he knows what people want, and has absolutely no compunctions about giving it to them.
Phredd,
I've got to admit that I, who foreswore celebrity worship 25 years ago, am absolutely enthralled by James Wolcott's writing. It makes me giddy he is so rational and good and witty.
On his subject, years ago I was attending night time grad school with a guy named Martin Smith who has since become one of my best friends. We had hung out and studied for about a year and one night as we walked to our cars after class I wished him a "Happy Easter". He stopped and looked at me like I said his mother was great in the sack. I hadn't realized he was a really jewy-jew (his name wasn't Abromowitz or something I would suspect in my cluelessness) He thought I was making a nasty wisecrack. Since then I've tried to be sensitive to the wide variety of religious and cultural diversity around me here in this deepest of Blue State and usually say 'Happy Holidayze' this time of yee-ah.
Phredd,
I've got to admit that I, who foreswore celebrity worship 25 years ago, am absolutely enthralled by James Wolcott's writing. It makes me giddy he is so rational and good and witty.
On his subject, years ago I was attending night time grad school with a guy named Martin Smith who has since become one of my best friends. We had hung out and studied for about a year and one night as we walked to our cars after class I wished him a "Happy Easter". He stopped and looked at me like I said his mother was great in the sack. I hadn't realized he was a really jewy-jew (his name wasn't Abromowitz or something I would suspect in my cluelessness) He thought I was making a nasty wisecrack. Since then I've tried to be sensitive to the wide variety of religious and cultural diversity around me here in this deepest of Blue State and usually say 'Happy Holidayze' this time of yee-ah.
Fear is draining and wasteful.
But fear like pain is also a survival instinct. Not being afraid of the obviously proto fascistic state of American culture post 9/11 is to ignore the canary that just died at the bottom of the coal mine.
SWR,
You can remain aware of something which is dangerous without maintaining a state of fear.
If I thought fear and hatred were more effective states of mind, I'd be telling everyone to be scared an hateful. My goal is effective activism.
Fear is draining and wasteful.
But fear like pain is also a survival instinct. Not being afraid of the obviously proto fascistic state of American culture post 9/11 is to ignore the canary that just died at the bottom of the coal mine.
SWR,
You can remain aware of something which is dangerous without maintaining a state of fear.
If I thought fear and hatred were more effective states of mind, I'd be telling everyone to be scared an hateful. My goal is effective activism.
How could he be stupid?
Hecate
Hate to say it, but he's amazingly stupid, and twice as arrogant as he is dumb. Words really can't do him justice. Dig up some interviews with him...he's just astonishing! He's not quite Nigel Tufnel, though...Nigel had too much humility.
Doesn't mean you can't enjoy his music, though!
How could he be stupid?
Hecate
Hate to say it, but he's amazingly stupid, and twice as arrogant as he is dumb. Words really can't do him justice. Dig up some interviews with him...he's just astonishing! He's not quite Nigel Tufnel, though...Nigel had too much humility.
Doesn't mean you can't enjoy his music, though!
Oh, 'Rainbow'? That was made deliberately for the staff Christmas outtake reel. Never broadcast, never meant for broadcast. But only works because Rainbow had lots of potential fnar-fnar moments...
Oh, 'Rainbow'? That was made deliberately for the staff Christmas outtake reel. Never broadcast, never meant for broadcast. But only works because Rainbow had lots of potential fnar-fnar moments...
You can remain aware of something which is dangerous without maintaining a state of fear.
Gee, ya think?
Good grief.
You can remain aware of something which is dangerous without maintaining a state of fear.
Gee, ya think?
Good grief.
You can remain aware of something which is dangerous without maintaining a state of fear.
But fear is a form of awareness.
It's the way we become aware of what our unconcious perceives but we can't see consciously.
Limiting our emotions to what makes sense intellectually is a form of denial.
Don't be afraid to be afraid.
You can remain aware of something which is dangerous without maintaining a state of fear.
But fear is a form of awareness.
It's the way we become aware of what our unconcious perceives but we can't see consciously.
Limiting our emotions to what makes sense intellectually is a form of denial.
Don't be afraid to be afraid.
the question was earlier, but since i've banged the drum for two weeks on this, i'll keep going:
LGF was a term used by troops in vietnam-- "Little Go*k F*ckers". "Little Green Footballs" was a santized version they used.
the question was earlier, but since i've banged the drum for two weeks on this, i'll keep going:
LGF was a term used by troops in vietnam-- "Little Go*k F*ckers". "Little Green Footballs" was a santized version they used.
Don't be afraid to be afraid.
Oh, blah.
Don't be afraid to be afraid.
Oh, blah.
Liddy Dole was once served Barry Manilow penis as a piece of sushi, wrapped in seaweed, etc. She put some wasabi on it and Barry lost it when he felt Liddy's teeth.
Liddy Dole was once served Barry Manilow penis as a piece of sushi, wrapped in seaweed, etc. She put some wasabi on it and Barry lost it when he felt Liddy's teeth.
spent in revelling, epicurisme, wantonnesse, idlenesse, dancing, drinking, stage-plaies, Masques, and carnall Pompe and Jollity)
Admit it, xians. You're really still just jealous and hateful of the way we spend the Winter Solstice. Two days to go. I've already made a huge batch of mead and two spanikopitas. Once I get home from work tonight I'll start in on the blinis for the caviar. And the bonfires! And the dancing! To say nothing of the "carnall Pompe".
No gifts from Walmart, though. No guilt. No sermons. Sorry. No can do.
spent in revelling, epicurisme, wantonnesse, idlenesse, dancing, drinking, stage-plaies, Masques, and carnall Pompe and Jollity)
Admit it, xians. You're really still just jealous and hateful of the way we spend the Winter Solstice. Two days to go. I've already made a huge batch of mead and two spanikopitas. Once I get home from work tonight I'll start in on the blinis for the caviar. And the bonfires! And the dancing! To say nothing of the "carnall Pompe".
No gifts from Walmart, though. No guilt. No sermons. Sorry. No can do.
LGF was a term used by troops in vietnam-- "Little Go*k F*ckers". "Little Green Footballs" was a santized version they used.
fat sam | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:43 pm | #
Do you have any confirmation for this. I thought it was the name that jerk used to call his old software development company back in the 1980s.
LGF was a term used by troops in vietnam-- "Little Go*k F*ckers". "Little Green Footballs" was a santized version they used.
fat sam | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:43 pm | #
Do you have any confirmation for this. I thought it was the name that jerk used to call his old software development company back in the 1980s.
I've got to run along, but I have to mention that I was mildly surprised at first - and not surprised at all a moment later - to learn that Rumsfeld is too lazy and callous to personally sign condolence letters to the families of dead soldiers.
I've got a link to the story on my homepage, or you can Google it...I think it was at e-stripes.com.
Good old Rumsfeld...what an implacably evil old fossil he is.
I've got to run along, but I have to mention that I was mildly surprised at first - and not surprised at all a moment later - to learn that Rumsfeld is too lazy and callous to personally sign condolence letters to the families of dead soldiers.
I've got a link to the story on my homepage, or you can Google it...I think it was at e-stripes.com.
Good old Rumsfeld...what an implacably evil old fossil he is.
But fear is a form of awareness.
It's the way we become aware of what our unconcious perceives but we can't see consciously.
Limiting our emotions to what makes sense intellectually is a form of denial.
Don't be afraid to be afraid.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:42 pm | #
Did you see this post before?
Hate and aggression are natural emotions arising from fear. Fear is draining and wasteful.
You're right though, stifling or denying what spontaneously comes up inside you is also a waste. You have enough opposition in life without self-opposition.
Go ahead and 'hate' Bush, but keep in mind, it might indicate that you need to take a rest from the political struggle, and to experience something life-affirming and recreational.
Hopefully you'll find balance in your activism so you're not wasting energy in desperate states of being, like fear and hatred.
Sustainability requires your activism is pursued within the operational constraints of homeostatic balance.
But fear is a form of awareness.
It's the way we become aware of what our unconcious perceives but we can't see consciously.
Limiting our emotions to what makes sense intellectually is a form of denial.
Don't be afraid to be afraid.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:42 pm | #
Did you see this post before?
Hate and aggression are natural emotions arising from fear. Fear is draining and wasteful.
You're right though, stifling or denying what spontaneously comes up inside you is also a waste. You have enough opposition in life without self-opposition.
Go ahead and 'hate' Bush, but keep in mind, it might indicate that you need to take a rest from the political struggle, and to experience something life-affirming and recreational.
Hopefully you'll find balance in your activism so you're not wasting energy in desperate states of being, like fear and hatred.
Sustainability requires your activism is pursued within the operational constraints of homeostatic balance.
OT (if that's possible in an open thread) but today a question occurred to me -- how do the Ned Flanders types among the fundies explain the miracle of the virgin birth to their kids?
I mean - in the old days, this sort of thing would present no embarrassment as, down on or near a farm, kids would learn about sex at a pretty young age ("Mommy, Daddy -- what's the bull doing to the cow?"), but with industrialization came an increase of prudishness (am I the only one to notice the coincidence of Victorian prudishness with the onset of the industrial revolution and increased urbanization?) as you actually had to explain to the kids about sex.
But something occurred to me today - wouldn't you have to explain to the kids about sex in order to explain the miracle of the virgin birth to them? And if the fundies can explain this to their kids, why are they so paranoid and confused about how they are going to explain sex on TV to them?
Any Christians who were raised in protective, fundie type environments care to respond to my query? I am most curious as to how such things work.
OT (if that's possible in an open thread) but today a question occurred to me -- how do the Ned Flanders types among the fundies explain the miracle of the virgin birth to their kids?
I mean - in the old days, this sort of thing would present no embarrassment as, down on or near a farm, kids would learn about sex at a pretty young age ("Mommy, Daddy -- what's the bull doing to the cow?"), but with industrialization came an increase of prudishness (am I the only one to notice the coincidence of Victorian prudishness with the onset of the industrial revolution and increased urbanization?) as you actually had to explain to the kids about sex.
But something occurred to me today - wouldn't you have to explain to the kids about sex in order to explain the miracle of the virgin birth to them? And if the fundies can explain this to their kids, why are they so paranoid and confused about how they are going to explain sex on TV to them?
Any Christians who were raised in protective, fundie type environments care to respond to my query? I am most curious as to how such things work.
On the REligious Christams traditions: The person who brought the Christmas tree to Amurika was a Unitarian (read: "queer loving atheistic supportin, commie lovin') preacher from Lexington, MA. who thought the the Puritans whad taken the joy outa the holiday.
And the modern image of Santa Claus (you know, 'the old Jeezus with a white beard') was from a Coke commercial in the 1930's. That's the kind of centuries old tradition the merchants love.
P.S. How have the xmas shopping crowds been everywhere in the US this season?? Here in MA they've been pretty light as far as I can tell.
On the REligious Christams traditions: The person who brought the Christmas tree to Amurika was a Unitarian (read: "queer loving atheistic supportin, commie lovin') preacher from Lexington, MA. who thought the the Puritans whad taken the joy outa the holiday.
And the modern image of Santa Claus (you know, 'the old Jeezus with a white beard') was from a Coke commercial in the 1930's. That's the kind of centuries old tradition the merchants love.
P.S. How have the xmas shopping crowds been everywhere in the US this season?? Here in MA they've been pretty light as far as I can tell.
Hate and aggression are natural emotions arising from fear. Fear is draining and wasteful.
So is repeating yourself.
Sorry but you sound a bit too "culty" for me. I'm sure you mean well, but you sound a bit too "new age authoritarian" for my tastes.
Don't tell me how to manage my feelings. OK? It's culty and I have a therapist for these things anyway. And you sure as hell don't sound like you have any credentials to practice therapy.
Hate and aggression are natural emotions arising from fear. Fear is draining and wasteful.
So is repeating yourself.
Sorry but you sound a bit too "culty" for me. I'm sure you mean well, but you sound a bit too "new age authoritarian" for my tastes.
Don't tell me how to manage my feelings. OK? It's culty and I have a therapist for these things anyway. And you sure as hell don't sound like you have any credentials to practice therapy.
I have to sheepishly admit to keeping a "rag bag" around the house. Hey, old underwear, t-shirts, etc. are great for waxing the car, paint rags, washing windows, etc etc etc. Why buy things that often don't do the job as well as your worn-out clothing and linens?
I have to sheepishly admit to keeping a "rag bag" around the house. Hey, old underwear, t-shirts, etc. are great for waxing the car, paint rags, washing windows, etc etc etc. Why buy things that often don't do the job as well as your worn-out clothing and linens?
What is the confusion about LGF? Isn't this a reference to throwing snot, laden with the products of incomplete hemolysis as the dried out stuff can be ("little green footballs"), at people?
I just figured the people at that site liked to revel in their juvenalia rather than that there was anything more involved in it ... I didn't figure the LGF types to be intelligent enough to sanitize anything nor did I figure many of them were actually in Vietnam to know anything about it.
If they remembered so much about 'Nam after all, why are they wanting to repeat it?
What is the confusion about LGF? Isn't this a reference to throwing snot, laden with the products of incomplete hemolysis as the dried out stuff can be ("little green footballs"), at people?
I just figured the people at that site liked to revel in their juvenalia rather than that there was anything more involved in it ... I didn't figure the LGF types to be intelligent enough to sanitize anything nor did I figure many of them were actually in Vietnam to know anything about it.
If they remembered so much about 'Nam after all, why are they wanting to repeat it?
Philalethes - the Religious Right's total lockstep with Bush's phony Christianity is probably the only thing that's ever made me think "Uh oh, what if that whole crazy Antichrist thing is true?")
Me too. I really sometimes have wondered. It's just so strange.
Philalethes - the Religious Right's total lockstep with Bush's phony Christianity is probably the only thing that's ever made me think "Uh oh, what if that whole crazy Antichrist thing is true?")
Me too. I really sometimes have wondered. It's just so strange.
And the modern image of Santa Claus (you know, 'the old Jeezus with a white beard') was from a Coke commercial in the 1930's.
Nah. Thomas Nast predates that handily.
And the modern image of Santa Claus (you know, 'the old Jeezus with a white beard') was from a Coke commercial in the 1930's.
Nah. Thomas Nast predates that handily.
Why buy things that often don't do the job as well as your worn-out clothing and linens?
Jen,
Good on you. It's also recycling.
Why buy things that often don't do the job as well as your worn-out clothing and linens?
Jen,
Good on you. It's also recycling.
Hate and aggression are natural emotions arising from fear. Fear is draining and wasteful.
So is repeating yourself.
Sorry but you sound a bit too "culty" for me. I'm sure you mean well, but you sound a bit too "new age authoritarian" for my tastes.
Don't tell me how to manage my feelings. OK? It's culty and I have a therapist for these things anyway. And you sure as hell don't sound like you have any credentials to practice therapy.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:48 pm | #
SWR, for the second time, you've removed a single statement of mine from its original context, removing the qualifiers that came after the statement which gave it balance and credibility.
Hate and aggression are natural emotions arising from fear. Fear is draining and wasteful.
So is repeating yourself.
Sorry but you sound a bit too "culty" for me. I'm sure you mean well, but you sound a bit too "new age authoritarian" for my tastes.
Don't tell me how to manage my feelings. OK? It's culty and I have a therapist for these things anyway. And you sure as hell don't sound like you have any credentials to practice therapy.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:48 pm | #
SWR, for the second time, you've removed a single statement of mine from its original context, removing the qualifiers that came after the statement which gave it balance and credibility.
Art, I hear they've been light all over, but they sucked this afternoon. I saw a Wally World parking lot that appeared to be completely full.
Jennifer, what's wrong with a rag bag? That's good recycling, so sing it out, girl!
Art, I hear they've been light all over, but they sucked this afternoon. I saw a Wally World parking lot that appeared to be completely full.
Jennifer, what's wrong with a rag bag? That's good recycling, so sing it out, girl!
Philalethes - the Religious Right's total lockstep with Bush's phony Christianity is probably the only thing that's ever made me think "Uh oh, what if that whole crazy Antichrist thing is true?")
Me too. I really sometimes have wondered. It's just so strange.
Tena
You cross Christian Fundamentalism with Sheldrake's Morphogenesis, and you begin to wonder, if these ijits believe this shit long enough, will it start to be true?
Philalethes - the Religious Right's total lockstep with Bush's phony Christianity is probably the only thing that's ever made me think "Uh oh, what if that whole crazy Antichrist thing is true?")
Me too. I really sometimes have wondered. It's just so strange.
Tena
You cross Christian Fundamentalism with Sheldrake's Morphogenesis, and you begin to wonder, if these ijits believe this shit long enough, will it start to be true?
SWR, for the second time, you've removed a single statement of mine from its original context, removing the qualifiers that came after the statement which gave it balance and credibility.
Visual Politics | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:53 pm | #
Why are you so concerned to manage how I think and feel?
You've given your "advice" and I didn't take to it as handily as you'd like.
My gut feeling about you is that you're controlling and culty. Once again, I'm sure you mean well but you're starting to piss me off.
Can't we just agree to disagree? Or do I have to agree with everything you say to save my soul from fear and anger?
SWR, for the second time, you've removed a single statement of mine from its original context, removing the qualifiers that came after the statement which gave it balance and credibility.
Visual Politics | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:53 pm | #
Why are you so concerned to manage how I think and feel?
You've given your "advice" and I didn't take to it as handily as you'd like.
My gut feeling about you is that you're controlling and culty. Once again, I'm sure you mean well but you're starting to piss me off.
Can't we just agree to disagree? Or do I have to agree with everything you say to save my soul from fear and anger?
LGF was a term used by troops in vietnam-- "Little Go*k F*ckers". "Little Green Footballs" was a santized version they used.
fat sam | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:43 pm | #
Do you have any confirmation for this. I thought it was the name that jerk used to call his old software development company back in the 1980s.
I have read it in book accounts though I coudn't tell you which (googling the term brings up some nasty sites), and heard it from someone who served there; A coomenter here, Konopelli says he was there and backs the definition.
Until recently, I thought it was fairly common knowledge.
LGF was a term used by troops in vietnam-- "Little Go*k F*ckers". "Little Green Footballs" was a santized version they used.
fat sam | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:43 pm | #
Do you have any confirmation for this. I thought it was the name that jerk used to call his old software development company back in the 1980s.
I have read it in book accounts though I coudn't tell you which (googling the term brings up some nasty sites), and heard it from someone who served there; A coomenter here, Konopelli says he was there and backs the definition.
Until recently, I thought it was fairly common knowledge.
Why buy things that often don't do the job as well as your worn-out clothing and linens?
Old socks and Tees, too sacred to wear any longer, make the very bestest cleaning rags. Why buy new ones that won't be any better? You gotta throw money away, hey, throw it over here!
Why buy things that often don't do the job as well as your worn-out clothing and linens?
Old socks and Tees, too sacred to wear any longer, make the very bestest cleaning rags. Why buy new ones that won't be any better? You gotta throw money away, hey, throw it over here!
Jennifer, me too. I've got a few cotton diapers left from 19 years ago that are the ultimate in rags. Also, flannel sheets, torn in sqares, make great rags for polishing wood furniture.
I don't believe that the fundies will take over this country. They are a minority. This stupidty will end. We just have to be more vocal--both locally and nationally.
Jennifer, me too. I've got a few cotton diapers left from 19 years ago that are the ultimate in rags. Also, flannel sheets, torn in sqares, make great rags for polishing wood furniture.
I don't believe that the fundies will take over this country. They are a minority. This stupidty will end. We just have to be more vocal--both locally and nationally.
Don't tell me how to manage my feelings. OK? It's culty and I have a therapist for these things anyway.
SWR
Probably working him half to death too.
Don't tell me how to manage my feelings. OK? It's culty and I have a therapist for these things anyway.
SWR
Probably working him half to death too.
And the modern image of Santa Claus (you know, 'the old Jeezus with a white beard') was from a Coke commercial in the 1930's.
Nah. Thomas Nast predates that handily.
Philalethes - 7:51 pm
So why do all those fat buddhas look like Santa without the beard?
And the modern image of Santa Claus (you know, 'the old Jeezus with a white beard') was from a Coke commercial in the 1930's.
Nah. Thomas Nast predates that handily.
Philalethes - 7:51 pm
So why do all those fat buddhas look like Santa without the beard?
Say, is thia an Opera thing, a Java thing, or a Hell-O-Scam thing; when I forget to fill in my handle, a box pops up saying "You do know your own name, don't you?"
Say, is thia an Opera thing, a Java thing, or a Hell-O-Scam thing; when I forget to fill in my handle, a box pops up saying "You do know your own name, don't you?"
i wouldn't be surprised if johnson first had named his company that, though...
i wouldn't be surprised if johnson first had named his company that, though...
So why do all those fat buddhas look like Santa without the beard?
If you see Santa on the road, kill him.
So why do all those fat buddhas look like Santa without the beard?
If you see Santa on the road, kill him.
fat sam, maybe the guy named a business in the 80's little green footballs because it is a sanitized version of the deragatory term
fat sam, maybe the guy named a business in the 80's little green footballs because it is a sanitized version of the deragatory term
fat sam, maybe the guy named a business in the 80's little green footballs because it is a sanitized version of the deragatory term
smarty jones | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:01 pm | #
The myth is that he was a liberal until 9/11 then he went off the deep end and became a fascist.
But it doesn't seem quite right to me. He wasn't even in NYC on 9/11 and he's probably in his 50s.
How do you reach that age and let one event you watch on TV change your whole outlook on life unless you're a weakling.
fat sam, maybe the guy named a business in the 80's little green footballs because it is a sanitized version of the deragatory term
smarty jones | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:01 pm | #
The myth is that he was a liberal until 9/11 then he went off the deep end and became a fascist.
But it doesn't seem quite right to me. He wasn't even in NYC on 9/11 and he's probably in his 50s.
How do you reach that age and let one event you watch on TV change your whole outlook on life unless you're a weakling.
Why are you so concerned to manage how I think and feel?
You've given your "advice" and I didn't take to it as handily as you'd like.
My gut feeling about you is that you're controlling and culty. Once again, I'm sure you mean well but you're starting to piss me off.
Can't we just agree to disagree? Or do I have to agree with everything you say to save my soul from fear and anger?
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:55 pm | #
SWR, you won't like hearing this, but I'm not violating any of your rights to tell you so: I find you unneccessarily combative and adversarial. We don't have to agree to disagree, merely disagreeing is enough.
I can't imagine how my suggestions or assertions about stress could possibly control you in any way.
Go ahead and get pissed off if you like. I'm sure you won't find the stress hormones to be comfortable or sustainable for very long.
Why are you so concerned to manage how I think and feel?
You've given your "advice" and I didn't take to it as handily as you'd like.
My gut feeling about you is that you're controlling and culty. Once again, I'm sure you mean well but you're starting to piss me off.
Can't we just agree to disagree? Or do I have to agree with everything you say to save my soul from fear and anger?
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 7:55 pm | #
SWR, you won't like hearing this, but I'm not violating any of your rights to tell you so: I find you unneccessarily combative and adversarial. We don't have to agree to disagree, merely disagreeing is enough.
I can't imagine how my suggestions or assertions about stress could possibly control you in any way.
Go ahead and get pissed off if you like. I'm sure you won't find the stress hormones to be comfortable or sustainable for very long.
oK Philalethes, I checked Snopes and you're right. But the most familiar image certainly is the Haddon Sundblom one, at least to my baby-boomer middle class sensibilites.
oK Philalethes, I checked Snopes and you're right. But the most familiar image certainly is the Haddon Sundblom one, at least to my baby-boomer middle class sensibilites.
Hmmm, Scrolling up to 7:48, I see I was channelling Jennifer. Are we all beginning to think alike around here?
Hmmm, Scrolling up to 7:48, I see I was channelling Jennifer. Are we all beginning to think alike around here?
If you see Santa on the road, kill him.
Don't make me laugh outloud like that at work.
If you see Santa on the road, kill him.
Don't make me laugh outloud like that at work.
I find you unneccessarily combative and adversarial.
And I find you passive aggressive and controlling.
Once again, I have a therapist I pay good hard cash to manage my feelings, my anger and my fears.
I don't need some guy on the web warning me about fear and anger.
And, as a point of info, that phrase "combative and adversarial" is something I last heard coming out of the mouth of a Mormon missionary.
You wouldn't have a religious background, would you? Because, once again, that phrase has a bit of a cult-like quality to it.
I find you unneccessarily combative and adversarial.
And I find you passive aggressive and controlling.
Once again, I have a therapist I pay good hard cash to manage my feelings, my anger and my fears.
I don't need some guy on the web warning me about fear and anger.
And, as a point of info, that phrase "combative and adversarial" is something I last heard coming out of the mouth of a Mormon missionary.
You wouldn't have a religious background, would you? Because, once again, that phrase has a bit of a cult-like quality to it.
SWR; VP is either yanking yer chain or totally immune to criticism.
D.A Fraggles, PHD (Pretty Heavy Duty) prescribes, for your continued mental health, take 2 PLONK!! and don't call me inna morning.
SWR; VP is either yanking yer chain or totally immune to criticism.
D.A Fraggles, PHD (Pretty Heavy Duty) prescribes, for your continued mental health, take 2 PLONK!! and don't call me inna morning.
How do you reach that age and let one event you watch on TV change your whole outlook on life unless you're a weakling.
Bingo! How come our parents and grandparents didn't go around saying that Pearl Harbor changed everything? Did the war of 1812 chnang everything? Goddess guard us!
Admit it, xians. You're really still just jealous and hateful of the way we spend the Winter Solstice.
Ah, but where does one go to get the invites?
How do you reach that age and let one event you watch on TV change your whole outlook on life unless you're a weakling.
Bingo! How come our parents and grandparents didn't go around saying that Pearl Harbor changed everything? Did the war of 1812 chnang everything? Goddess guard us!
Admit it, xians. You're really still just jealous and hateful of the way we spend the Winter Solstice.
Ah, but where does one go to get the invites?
So why do all those fat buddhas look like Santa without the beard? - The Spirit of Howard Beale
The more important question is why do both Santa and those fat buddhas look like Ashkenazic Jews? Is this part of the international Zionist conspiracy?
Speaking of which - if you guys are out there, I am still waiting for my share of the money and power from that
Of course, I am still waiting for the benefits of tax reform to trickle down to me and my family ... so far all that has trickled down to the middle class is yellow and smells like ammonia!
So why do all those fat buddhas look like Santa without the beard? - The Spirit of Howard Beale
The more important question is why do both Santa and those fat buddhas look like Ashkenazic Jews? Is this part of the international Zionist conspiracy?
Speaking of which - if you guys are out there, I am still waiting for my share of the money and power from that
Of course, I am still waiting for the benefits of tax reform to trickle down to me and my family ... so far all that has trickled down to the middle class is yellow and smells like ammonia!
SWR, thicken your hide.
You're coming undone.
SWR, thicken your hide.
You're coming undone.
SWR; VP is either yanking yer chain or totally immune to criticism.
Nah. I just think he found some new meditation book or something and wants to share. I'm sure his intentions are good. I just like tweaking people who think they have it all figured out.
Like Mormon Missionaries. The Church of LDS has been kind enough to send a flock of them to Manhattan and I've been taking the opportunity to drive them nuts very time I walk though Union Square.
It's therapeutic, I'll tell you that. They're so cute when they think they actually have a chance to convert me.
SWR; VP is either yanking yer chain or totally immune to criticism.
Nah. I just think he found some new meditation book or something and wants to share. I'm sure his intentions are good. I just like tweaking people who think they have it all figured out.
Like Mormon Missionaries. The Church of LDS has been kind enough to send a flock of them to Manhattan and I've been taking the opportunity to drive them nuts very time I walk though Union Square.
It's therapeutic, I'll tell you that. They're so cute when they think they actually have a chance to convert me.
One time, when someone told me I was being "passive aggressive", I replied by saying, "really? Where are you getting the passive bit from? I must not be trying hard enough."
One time, when someone told me I was being "passive aggressive", I replied by saying, "really? Where are you getting the passive bit from? I must not be trying hard enough."
ps in nc
Are you in North Carolina?
ps in nc
Are you in North Carolina?
SWR, thicken your hide.
You're coming undone.
pie | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:10 pm | #
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I'm sorry pie. Visual whatever is right. From this moment on, I renounce all fear and anger. BEGONE FEAR AND ANGER.
(I put a goofy looking blissed out smile on my face).
I love everybody. I love George Bush. I love Jenna Bush.
SWR, thicken your hide.
You're coming undone.
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I'm sorry pie. Visual whatever is right. From this moment on, I renounce all fear and anger. BEGONE FEAR AND ANGER.
(I put a goofy looking blissed out smile on my face).
I love everybody. I love George Bush. I love Jenna Bush.
Admit it, xians. You're really still just jealous and hateful of the way we spend the Winter Solstice. Two days to go. I've already made a huge batch of mead and two spanikopitas. Once I get home from work tonight I'll start in on the blinis for the caviar. And the bonfires! And the dancing! To say nothing of the "carnall Pompe".
No gifts from Walmart, though. No guilt. No sermons. Sorry. No can do.
Hecate
They've been jealous for 2000 freakin' years. It kinda the reverse of the Red/Blue thing as a Rural/Urban divide; the Christian City-Dwellers against the Pagani (villagers, which I imagine Hecate knows, but one or two may not))
Admit it, xians. You're really still just jealous and hateful of the way we spend the Winter Solstice. Two days to go. I've already made a huge batch of mead and two spanikopitas. Once I get home from work tonight I'll start in on the blinis for the caviar. And the bonfires! And the dancing! To say nothing of the "carnall Pompe".
No gifts from Walmart, though. No guilt. No sermons. Sorry. No can do.
Hecate
They've been jealous for 2000 freakin' years. It kinda the reverse of the Red/Blue thing as a Rural/Urban divide; the Christian City-Dwellers against the Pagani (villagers, which I imagine Hecate knows, but one or two may not))
How come our parents and grandparents didn't go around saying that Pearl Harbor changed everything?
Not to quibble, but I ran across some old pictures in the US papers in the week after Pearl Harbor. Lines around the block to enlist. My grandmother ended up with three stars in her window after Pearl Harbor. When I use to sit around and listen to the old-timers at reunions, Pearl Harbor was mentioned often as a turning point in their lives, whether it was the mass exodus of men, women going to work outside the home (often for the first time), etc.
But I would say Pearl Harbor was at least fifty times (or a thousand times) 9/11 - We entered a world war that we all knew was going to end up killing millions.
How come our parents and grandparents didn't go around saying that Pearl Harbor changed everything?
Not to quibble, but I ran across some old pictures in the US papers in the week after Pearl Harbor. Lines around the block to enlist. My grandmother ended up with three stars in her window after Pearl Harbor. When I use to sit around and listen to the old-timers at reunions, Pearl Harbor was mentioned often as a turning point in their lives, whether it was the mass exodus of men, women going to work outside the home (often for the first time), etc.
But I would say Pearl Harbor was at least fifty times (or a thousand times) 9/11 - We entered a world war that we all knew was going to end up killing millions.
And I find you passive aggressive and controlling.
Once again, I have a therapist I pay good hard cash to manage my feelings, my anger and my fears.
I don't need some guy on the web warning me about fear and anger.
And, as a point of info, that phrase "combative and adversarial" is something I last heard coming out of the mouth of a Mormon missionary.
You wouldn't have a religious background, would you? Because, once again, that phrase has a bit of a cult-like quality to it.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:07 pm | #
SWR, you might benefit if you learn to manage your own anger and fear and save yourself some money at the same time.
I hope your therapist isn't the type who won't encourage your independance for fear of losing access to your money.
BTW, I'm not at all religious. I welcome your feedback, but sometimes I get prickly when people quote me selectively, to my disadvantage.
And I find you passive aggressive and controlling.
Once again, I have a therapist I pay good hard cash to manage my feelings, my anger and my fears.
I don't need some guy on the web warning me about fear and anger.
And, as a point of info, that phrase "combative and adversarial" is something I last heard coming out of the mouth of a Mormon missionary.
You wouldn't have a religious background, would you? Because, once again, that phrase has a bit of a cult-like quality to it.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:07 pm | #
SWR, you might benefit if you learn to manage your own anger and fear and save yourself some money at the same time.
I hope your therapist isn't the type who won't encourage your independance for fear of losing access to your money.
BTW, I'm not at all religious. I welcome your feedback, but sometimes I get prickly when people quote me selectively, to my disadvantage.
Look, victimization is a Christian tradition. It goes all the way back to the Romans and the lions. Being oppressed is like a sacrament to them, they gotta believe it whether it's true or not.
Just start replying to all claims of "Christians being oppressed" by saying, "oh really? I don't recall seeing or hearing about any of them being thrown to the lions any time recently." It sharpens the persepective wonderfully.
Look, victimization is a Christian tradition. It goes all the way back to the Romans and the lions. Being oppressed is like a sacrament to them, they gotta believe it whether it's true or not.
Just start replying to all claims of "Christians being oppressed" by saying, "oh really? I don't recall seeing or hearing about any of them being thrown to the lions any time recently." It sharpens the persepective wonderfully.
DAS - "Any Christians who were raised in protective, fundie type environments care to respond to my query? I am most curious as to how such things work."
Um - the virgin birth gig? Roman Catholic and other Orthodox Christian doctrine. Not Protestants. And to the best of my addled United Presbyterian umpteen years of doctrine and theology, we just kinda cruised past the whole thing, gently redirecting attention to other matters. Look! A bare communion table! What do you mean -marriage- is a sacrament???? Wow, are you nuts! I don't think that any other reform Protestants countenance it either, at least not those with an actual theology. Maybe the high Lutherans, but I don't think so.
DAS - "Any Christians who were raised in protective, fundie type environments care to respond to my query? I am most curious as to how such things work."
Um - the virgin birth gig? Roman Catholic and other Orthodox Christian doctrine. Not Protestants. And to the best of my addled United Presbyterian umpteen years of doctrine and theology, we just kinda cruised past the whole thing, gently redirecting attention to other matters. Look! A bare communion table! What do you mean -marriage- is a sacrament???? Wow, are you nuts! I don't think that any other reform Protestants countenance it either, at least not those with an actual theology. Maybe the high Lutherans, but I don't think so.
How come our parents and grandparents didn't go around saying that Pearl Harbor changed everything?
My grandfather had a skull of a dead Japanese soldier in his basement as a trophy that he got from serving in the Pacific.
That beats squeaky Johnson's website by a considerable margin in the hate sweepstakes.
How come our parents and grandparents didn't go around saying that Pearl Harbor changed everything?
My grandfather had a skull of a dead Japanese soldier in his basement as a trophy that he got from serving in the Pacific.
That beats squeaky Johnson's website by a considerable margin in the hate sweepstakes.
But I would say Pearl Harbor was at least fifty times (or a thousand times) 9/11 - We entered a world war that we all knew was going to end up killing millions.
And Dear Leader tells us to go shopping.
The crux of the biscuit, as it were.
But I would say Pearl Harbor was at least fifty times (or a thousand times) 9/11 - We entered a world war that we all knew was going to end up killing millions.
And Dear Leader tells us to go shopping.
The crux of the biscuit, as it were.
Look, victimization is a Christian tradition.
And guilt.
Don't forget the guilt.
Look, victimization is a Christian tradition.
And guilt.
Don't forget the guilt.
SWR, you might benefit if you learn to manage your own anger and fear and save yourself some money at the same time.
Yeah. I've got to stop drinking. You're right.
But the therapist is money well spent. Sorry if you think new age platitudes can replace a qualified professional.
I don't.
SWR, you might benefit if you learn to manage your own anger and fear and save yourself some money at the same time.
Yeah. I've got to stop drinking. You're right.
But the therapist is money well spent. Sorry if you think new age platitudes can replace a qualified professional.
I don't.
I love everybody. I love George Bush. I love Jenna Bush.
SWR
Aw, jeez, SWR, just two PLONK!!s, not the whole bottle! You can OD on that shit.
Peaceful way to go, though...
I love everybody. I love George Bush. I love Jenna Bush.
SWR
Aw, jeez, SWR, just two PLONK!!s, not the whole bottle! You can OD on that shit.
Peaceful way to go, though...
Note that "Visual Politics' starts out by recommending we all get over 'fear and anger' then comes out against therapy in order to "save money".
Wouldn't someone who's concerned that somebody is irrationally fearfull and angry recommend some qualified professional?
Why would I want to "save money" if I'm fearful and angry?
Why so anti-therapy. Did you have a failed try at psychoanalysis or something?
Note that "Visual Politics' starts out by recommending we all get over 'fear and anger' then comes out against therapy in order to "save money".
Wouldn't someone who's concerned that somebody is irrationally fearfull and angry recommend some qualified professional?
Why would I want to "save money" if I'm fearful and angry?
Why so anti-therapy. Did you have a failed try at psychoanalysis or something?
pie | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:10 pm | #
Geez, my troll must love me.
Why can't the nerd just use his own name?
pie | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:10 pm | #
Geez, my troll must love me.
Why can't the nerd just use his own name?
New threads.
New threads.
i wouldn't be surprised if johnson first had named his company that, though...
fat sam
He said they (he and his brother) came up with the name when they were in Toyko. The expression Little Gook Fuckers was sometimes applied to the Japanese as well as Koreans and Vietnames. Johnson gets very coy when asked for the origin of the expression. Hell of a coinkydink ain't it? That 'their' LGF just happens to use the same three words in a row?
I think Squeaky should be asked this question over and over:
"Isn't it true that you named your website 'Little Green Footballs' after the racist code?
No?
OK, then what is it?
i wouldn't be surprised if johnson first had named his company that, though...
fat sam
He said they (he and his brother) came up with the name when they were in Toyko. The expression Little Gook Fuckers was sometimes applied to the Japanese as well as Koreans and Vietnames. Johnson gets very coy when asked for the origin of the expression. Hell of a coinkydink ain't it? That 'their' LGF just happens to use the same three words in a row?
I think Squeaky should be asked this question over and over:
"Isn't it true that you named your website 'Little Green Footballs' after the racist code?
No?
OK, then what is it?
Yeah. I've got to stop drinking. You're right.
But the therapist is money well spent. Sorry if you think new age platitudes can replace a qualified professional.
I don't.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:20 pm | #
SWR, respectfully, I'll share one more piece of unsolicited advice.
No qualified professional is more qualified or better positioned than yourself to regulate your stress. You might find that advice "new age" but I consider it old-fashioned.
Yeah. I've got to stop drinking. You're right.
But the therapist is money well spent. Sorry if you think new age platitudes can replace a qualified professional.
I don't.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:20 pm | #
SWR, respectfully, I'll share one more piece of unsolicited advice.
No qualified professional is more qualified or better positioned than yourself to regulate your stress. You might find that advice "new age" but I consider it old-fashioned.
Um - the virgin birth gig? Roman Catholic and other Orthodox Christian doctrine. Not Protestants. - GWPDA
Well that explains it then. I do know more than a few Christians well enough to know about when and how they learned about sex ... and it was all at a pretty young age (as it was with me - I learned about sex from reading encyclopedias and medical textbooks ... my parents wondered why I hadn't asked them, so they started talking to me about the subject and were shocked about the amount knowledge I had gleaned) - but then again they were all Catholics and High Church Lutherans, so they would have had the "virgin birth" issue come up ...
I didn't know that the fundie Protestants didn't believe in the virgin birth. I thought pretty much all but the most liberal sorts of Christians believed that (the immaculate conception of Mary - that, of course, is another ball of wax).
Thank you for the answer, btw.
Um - the virgin birth gig? Roman Catholic and other Orthodox Christian doctrine. Not Protestants. - GWPDA
Well that explains it then. I do know more than a few Christians well enough to know about when and how they learned about sex ... and it was all at a pretty young age (as it was with me - I learned about sex from reading encyclopedias and medical textbooks ... my parents wondered why I hadn't asked them, so they started talking to me about the subject and were shocked about the amount knowledge I had gleaned) - but then again they were all Catholics and High Church Lutherans, so they would have had the "virgin birth" issue come up ...
I didn't know that the fundie Protestants didn't believe in the virgin birth. I thought pretty much all but the most liberal sorts of Christians believed that (the immaculate conception of Mary - that, of course, is another ball of wax).
Thank you for the answer, btw.
The jolly fat buddhas are not really buddhas, but representations of a 6th century Chinese monk named Hotei in Japanese and Putai Hoshang ("Hemp bag monk") in Chinese. Connffusing him with the Buddha is approximately like confusing St Francis of Assisi with Jesus.
Hotei liveed in voluntary poverty and travelled around the countryside singing and telling humorous stories. When someone offered him a meal or lodging, he would reach into his magical hemp bag and reward the person with an item of great value--a carved jade stone or ivory chopsticks, etc. I haven't seen a story where he produces "killer Thai stick" but there must be one.
The jolly fat buddhas are not really buddhas, but representations of a 6th century Chinese monk named Hotei in Japanese and Putai Hoshang ("Hemp bag monk") in Chinese. Connffusing him with the Buddha is approximately like confusing St Francis of Assisi with Jesus.
Hotei liveed in voluntary poverty and travelled around the countryside singing and telling humorous stories. When someone offered him a meal or lodging, he would reach into his magical hemp bag and reward the person with an item of great value--a carved jade stone or ivory chopsticks, etc. I haven't seen a story where he produces "killer Thai stick" but there must be one.
All this rag talk-- BTW, our Philly family also said "washrag" (dishrag) at home-- brings to mind my own little "rag" anecdote:
Many, many years ago I was at a party where everyone was pretty well buzzed one way or the other. One of the women launched exhuberantly into a highly explicit anecdote about something funny that had happened while she and her boyfriend were having sex.
At one point she made a reference to becoming tangled up in the "come rag". "The what?" I asked. "OK, come sheet, then," she clarified cheerfully. I was unfamiliar with the concept, and although I pretended to understand, it took me a long buzzed second to process what she was talking about.
I don't remember one bit of the actual sex talk or the story she was telling, but I still relive that awkward Duh Moment and feeling embarrassed.
Please don't post any comments containing both "Liddy Dole" and "come rag".
All this rag talk-- BTW, our Philly family also said "washrag" (dishrag) at home-- brings to mind my own little "rag" anecdote:
Many, many years ago I was at a party where everyone was pretty well buzzed one way or the other. One of the women launched exhuberantly into a highly explicit anecdote about something funny that had happened while she and her boyfriend were having sex.
At one point she made a reference to becoming tangled up in the "come rag". "The what?" I asked. "OK, come sheet, then," she clarified cheerfully. I was unfamiliar with the concept, and although I pretended to understand, it took me a long buzzed second to process what she was talking about.
I don't remember one bit of the actual sex talk or the story she was telling, but I still relive that awkward Duh Moment and feeling embarrassed.
Please don't post any comments containing both "Liddy Dole" and "come rag".
No qualified professional is more qualified or better positioned than yourself to regulate your stress.
Nope. You're right. No qualified professional is better able to "regulate" (gee what a word for your emotions. Why not go the whole 9 yards and just say repress) my emotions than I am.
But any qualified therapist is far, far far better qualified to deal with my emotions than you my dear Visual Politics.
No qualified professional is more qualified or better positioned than yourself to regulate your stress.
Nope. You're right. No qualified professional is better able to "regulate" (gee what a word for your emotions. Why not go the whole 9 yards and just say repress) my emotions than I am.
But any qualified therapist is far, far far better qualified to deal with my emotions than you my dear Visual Politics.
How come our parents and grandparents didn't go around saying that Pearl Harbor changed everything?
Interesting that American dead in WWII total approximately 400,000 while US deaths from the 1918 Flu pandemic were 100,000 more or 500,000.
Maybe the emotional trauma was different. Like in 1918 America was more religious and the loss of life was an act of God?
How come our parents and grandparents didn't go around saying that Pearl Harbor changed everything?
Interesting that American dead in WWII total approximately 400,000 while US deaths from the 1918 Flu pandemic were 100,000 more or 500,000.
Maybe the emotional trauma was different. Like in 1918 America was more religious and the loss of life was an act of God?
"I don't believe that the fundies will take over this country."
No, they are just being used and will be cast aside until needed again. The repugnicans hate the fundies with disgust and passion but they fear the Democrats because they know that they themselves are dirty, evile, and corrupt. Also, the neocons will go, starting with Rumsfield. They have been useful Brownshirts but will be destroyed for the real thing--GW and Cheney style corporate fascism complete with American Style Labor camps after the complete destructon of all labor laws and all social programs and complete control of the FBI, CIA, and the Military, and local law enforcement. It's not going to be pretty.
"I don't believe that the fundies will take over this country."
No, they are just being used and will be cast aside until needed again. The repugnicans hate the fundies with disgust and passion but they fear the Democrats because they know that they themselves are dirty, evile, and corrupt. Also, the neocons will go, starting with Rumsfield. They have been useful Brownshirts but will be destroyed for the real thing--GW and Cheney style corporate fascism complete with American Style Labor camps after the complete destructon of all labor laws and all social programs and complete control of the FBI, CIA, and the Military, and local law enforcement. It's not going to be pretty.
But I would say Pearl Harbor was at least fifty times (or a thousand times) 9/11 - We entered a world war that we all knew was going to end up killing millions.
One of the many things that infuriated me about the press's and admin's hawking of 9/11 was that it was more terrible than Pearl Harbor in that the attack was on the mainland and was against innocents and on an on, ad nauseum.
While the above was true, 19 Saudis hijacking 4 airplanes was not the equivalent of the Imperial Japanese Forces declaring war on the US by bombing the Pacific Fleet.
But, the hawking of 9/11 was never about retribution and payback, was it? As we have been over many times, it legitimezed the Bush Boy and allowed him to have carte blanche with respect to his fascist policies.
But I would say Pearl Harbor was at least fifty times (or a thousand times) 9/11 - We entered a world war that we all knew was going to end up killing millions.
One of the many things that infuriated me about the press's and admin's hawking of 9/11 was that it was more terrible than Pearl Harbor in that the attack was on the mainland and was against innocents and on an on, ad nauseum.
While the above was true, 19 Saudis hijacking 4 airplanes was not the equivalent of the Imperial Japanese Forces declaring war on the US by bombing the Pacific Fleet.
But, the hawking of 9/11 was never about retribution and payback, was it? As we have been over many times, it legitimezed the Bush Boy and allowed him to have carte blanche with respect to his fascist policies.
While the above was true, 19 Saudis hijacking 4 airplanes was not the equivalent of the Imperial Japanese Forces declaring war on the US by bombing the Pacific Fleet.
Saudis? I thought they were Iraqis.
While the above was true, 19 Saudis hijacking 4 airplanes was not the equivalent of the Imperial Japanese Forces declaring war on the US by bombing the Pacific Fleet.
Saudis? I thought they were Iraqis.
No qualified professional is more qualified or better positioned than yourself to regulate your stress.
Nope. You're right. No qualified professional is better able to "regulate" (gee what a word for your emotions. Why not go the whole 9 yards and just say repress) my emotions than I am.
But any qualified therapist is far, far far better qualified to deal with my emotions than you my dear Visual Politics.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:29 pm | #
You think I'm applying for the job? No thanks buddy, mine is more than enough for me. Aside from that, my efforts would be as ineffective as me trying to pee to relieve the pressure in your bladder. BTW, repression is not how I process my stress. Drop me a line if you have anything else to say, I'm out for dinner.
Cheers.
No qualified professional is more qualified or better positioned than yourself to regulate your stress.
Nope. You're right. No qualified professional is better able to "regulate" (gee what a word for your emotions. Why not go the whole 9 yards and just say repress) my emotions than I am.
But any qualified therapist is far, far far better qualified to deal with my emotions than you my dear Visual Politics.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 12.18.04 - 8:29 pm | #
You think I'm applying for the job? No thanks buddy, mine is more than enough for me. Aside from that, my efforts would be as ineffective as me trying to pee to relieve the pressure in your bladder. BTW, repression is not how I process my stress. Drop me a line if you have anything else to say, I'm out for dinner.
Cheers.
BTW, repression is not how I process my stress.
You "process" your stress?
Yikes. Does that mean your personality is like homogenized and pasturized or something?
BTW, repression is not how I process my stress.
You "process" your stress?
Yikes. Does that mean your personality is like homogenized and pasturized or something?
New thread up kids. It's lonely over there.
New thread up kids. It's lonely over there.
Draco
Interesting. So Hotei not only looks like Santa without the beard, but also carries a sack of presents to reward "good" people.
Despite the accuracy of your story, the two images of happy Buddha and Hotei are forever joined.
Draco
Interesting. So Hotei not only looks like Santa without the beard, but also carries a sack of presents to reward "good" people.
Despite the accuracy of your story, the two images of happy Buddha and Hotei are forever joined.
DAS - "I didn't know that the fundie Protestants didn't believe in the virgin birth. I thought pretty much all but the most liberal sorts of Christians believed that (the immaculate conception of Mary - that, of course, is another ball of wax)."
Now, let's be clear. I can't say what fundamentalist Protestants believe in terms of miracles and magic birth and like that. United Presbyterians (and the rest of the mainstream Protestants - UCC, United Methodists, Congregationalists, you know, the old gang whose ministers tended to graduate from Princeton Theological or Union Theological) don't all believe in the Immaculate Conception but some do believe in the virgin birth. The issue represents one of the major separation points between the two doctrinal histories. "A Reasonable Faith" - that's the Presbyterians for you. Virgins giving birth are um, not reasonable; but some mainstream folk sorta believe it's important. What the fundamentalists believe about this - well, that crowd tends to have a rather more flexible doctrine, depending on the expediencies around. For the UP's of my youth, we traced back the Christ's heritage thru his earthly parentage - and the miracle stuff was pretty underplayed.
DAS - "I didn't know that the fundie Protestants didn't believe in the virgin birth. I thought pretty much all but the most liberal sorts of Christians believed that (the immaculate conception of Mary - that, of course, is another ball of wax)."
Now, let's be clear. I can't say what fundamentalist Protestants believe in terms of miracles and magic birth and like that. United Presbyterians (and the rest of the mainstream Protestants - UCC, United Methodists, Congregationalists, you know, the old gang whose ministers tended to graduate from Princeton Theological or Union Theological) don't all believe in the Immaculate Conception but some do believe in the virgin birth. The issue represents one of the major separation points between the two doctrinal histories. "A Reasonable Faith" - that's the Presbyterians for you. Virgins giving birth are um, not reasonable; but some mainstream folk sorta believe it's important. What the fundamentalists believe about this - well, that crowd tends to have a rather more flexible doctrine, depending on the expediencies around. For the UP's of my youth, we traced back the Christ's heritage thru his earthly parentage - and the miracle stuff was pretty underplayed.
Interestingly, for all the admin approved comparisons between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, after Pearl Harbor we declared war on Japan and her allies. When we fought against Nazi Germany, we fought against a nation allied to the one that attacked us and also committing its worst attrocities at the time we fought them.
We didn't wait over a decade after Hitler launched the Holocaust to decide to attack Nazi Germany unlike our using S. Hussein's long simmerred down attrocities to justify invading Iraq.
Nor after Pearl Harbor, did we besides declaring war on Japan, invade a country the Japanese militaristic fascists wanted us to invade - whereas we did Al Qaeda's bidding by invading Iraq.
What the U.S. under BushCO has done following 9/11 would be like declaring war on the U.S.S.R. after Pearl Harbor rather than Nazi Germany ...
Interestingly, for all the admin approved comparisons between 9/11 and Pearl Harbor, after Pearl Harbor we declared war on Japan and her allies. When we fought against Nazi Germany, we fought against a nation allied to the one that attacked us and also committing its worst attrocities at the time we fought them.
We didn't wait over a decade after Hitler launched the Holocaust to decide to attack Nazi Germany unlike our using S. Hussein's long simmerred down attrocities to justify invading Iraq.
Nor after Pearl Harbor, did we besides declaring war on Japan, invade a country the Japanese militaristic fascists wanted us to invade - whereas we did Al Qaeda's bidding by invading Iraq.
What the U.S. under BushCO has done following 9/11 would be like declaring war on the U.S.S.R. after Pearl Harbor rather than Nazi Germany ...
Hecate: indeed I am. Asheville, so I suspect there are groups getting ready for Yule as we speak, under the radar of the Bible-thumpers.
Hecate: indeed I am. Asheville, so I suspect there are groups getting ready for Yule as we speak, under the radar of the Bible-thumpers.
ps in nc,
Go here for an invite. NC is actually a hotbed of wiccan/pagan activity. Enjoy.
ps in nc,
Go here for an invite. NC is actually a hotbed of wiccan/pagan activity. Enjoy.
On Pinochet: it'd be typical for the bastard to escape justice, even by dying. It makes me want to believe in an afterlife where the fucker can burn in hell. Or have his fingers cut off every day, only for them to grow back and be cut off again.
Amen. Or even better--if I may borrow a phrase from my dad back in tx--Pinochet should strung up by his balls and given a hot lead enema until the rope breaks.
On Pinochet: it'd be typical for the bastard to escape justice, even by dying. It makes me want to believe in an afterlife where the fucker can burn in hell. Or have his fingers cut off every day, only for them to grow back and be cut off again.
Amen. Or even better--if I may borrow a phrase from my dad back in tx--Pinochet should strung up by his balls and given a hot lead enema until the rope breaks.
Hecate: thanks, truly.
Hecate: thanks, truly.
Great story:
For this brief, I need to cite an order from the Sec'y of Energy from 2000. It's been pulled from the website from the Dept. of Energy, I guess so the terrorists can't discover the widely=reported historical fact that, in 2000, the Sec'y of Energy issued this order. However, a simple Google search reveals that the order is available on a website maintained by a group of western governors. Hope the terraists don't find this out. Me, I'm just trying to get an associate to fill in cites before the paralegal I'm scared of starts to bluebook this thing.
Great story:
For this brief, I need to cite an order from the Sec'y of Energy from 2000. It's been pulled from the website from the Dept. of Energy, I guess so the terrorists can't discover the widely=reported historical fact that, in 2000, the Sec'y of Energy issued this order. However, a simple Google search reveals that the order is available on a website maintained by a group of western governors. Hope the terraists don't find this out. Me, I'm just trying to get an associate to fill in cites before the paralegal I'm scared of starts to bluebook this thing.
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