Funny how they announce this on the day no ome is watching...
Uncle $cam |
12.24.04 - 4:32 pm | #
Funny how they announce this on the day no ome is watching...
Uncle $cam |
12.24.04 - 4:32 pm | #
Wow... best Friday sneak in a long time...
Bongo |
12.24.04 - 4:33 pm | #
Wow... best Friday sneak in a long time...
Bongo |
12.24.04 - 4:33 pm | #
GREAT!
Maybe they can dump even MORE missing funds into the stock market to pump it up as the US$ declines!
Can't you just SMELL the Depression?
Uncle Moneybags |
12.24.04 - 4:35 pm | #
GREAT!
Maybe they can dump even MORE missing funds into the stock market to pump it up as the US$ declines!
Can't you just SMELL the Depression?
Uncle Moneybags |
12.24.04 - 4:35 pm | #
Kolbe also said there has been "little planning" in the way funds are spent
I would say shovelling the money into Halliburton's pockets is a hell of a plan.
firedoglake |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 4:39 pm | #
Kolbe also said there has been "little planning" in the way funds are spent
I would say shovelling the money into Halliburton's pockets is a hell of a plan.
firedoglake |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 4:39 pm | #
This is what "fiscal conservatism" is all about
jr |
12.24.04 - 4:39 pm | #
This is what "fiscal conservatism" is all about
jr |
12.24.04 - 4:39 pm | #
Soon a cup of Starbucks coffee will cost a share of Starbucks.
Very soon.
Ghost of Fiduciary Past |
12.24.04 - 4:40 pm | #
Soon a cup of Starbucks coffee will cost a share of Starbucks.
Very soon.
Ghost of Fiduciary Past |
12.24.04 - 4:40 pm | #
I've seen the needle (Iraq) an the damage done.
A little part of it in everyone.
neal |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 4:41 pm | #
I've seen the needle (Iraq) an the damage done.
A little part of it in everyone.
neal |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 4:41 pm | #
OK lets reduce some more PELL grants,
the "education" prezident.
What if Kerry won and he requested this money?
Why do we seem to be the only ones that care?
diogenes |
12.24.04 - 4:42 pm | #
OK lets reduce some more PELL grants,
the "education" prezident.
What if Kerry won and he requested this money?
Why do we seem to be the only ones that care?
diogenes |
12.24.04 - 4:42 pm | #
Will Kerry vote against this?
After he votes for it?
ABS&B |
12.24.04 - 4:44 pm | #
Will Kerry vote against this?
After he votes for it?
ABS&B |
12.24.04 - 4:44 pm | #
While Rumsfeld wanders around Iraq talking about how everything is being done for the troops CNN headline news carries another story about a soldier selling off his sports collection to buy body armour.
____league |
12.24.04 - 4:45 pm | #
While Rumsfeld wanders around Iraq talking about how everything is being done for the troops CNN headline news carries another story about a soldier selling off his sports collection to buy body armour.
____league |
12.24.04 - 4:45 pm | #
Oh. Fuck.
They are fucking robbing us blind. Someone wake the fuck up - please. They are stealing everything, nailed down and not.
I'm so glad the MSM/SCLM are keeping on top of this. Informed Americans might object to this sort of thing, and then
What!? Oh.
Nothing to see here people. Look! Footage of a soldier waving from Iraq!
And now, these messages from our fine sponsors.
Derelict |
12.24.04 - 4:49 pm | #
I'm so glad the MSM/SCLM are keeping on top of this. Informed Americans might object to this sort of thing, and then
What!? Oh.
Nothing to see here people. Look! Footage of a soldier waving from Iraq!
And now, these messages from our fine sponsors.
Derelict |
12.24.04 - 4:49 pm | #
January 20 can't come soon enough.
I want to see what Americans are really made of...
but I'm afraid we already know.
CanadianLurker |
12.24.04 - 4:51 pm | #
January 20 can't come soon enough.
I want to see what Americans are really made of...
but I'm afraid we already know.
CanadianLurker |
12.24.04 - 4:51 pm | #
I would say shovelling the money into Halliburton's pockets is a hell of a plan.
Houston likes it. The rest of the country doesn't seem to care.
(got a Xmas card from an old family friend, who ended the obligatory annual letter with gratitude over the outcome of the election. Gonna need more eggnog after that one...)
Robert M. Jeffers |
12.24.04 - 4:53 pm | #
I would say shovelling the money into Halliburton's pockets is a hell of a plan.
Houston likes it. The rest of the country doesn't seem to care.
(got a Xmas card from an old family friend, who ended the obligatory annual letter with gratitude over the outcome of the election. Gonna need more eggnog after that one...)
Robert M. Jeffers |
12.24.04 - 4:53 pm | #
They need the $80B to rebuild effing
Fallujah. Have you seen pictures of
it lately? Our savvy generals decided to level it in order to drive the
insurgents over to others lairs.
Wake up America! It is both a money
and a soldier pit...
Hedley Lamarr |
12.24.04 - 4:57 pm | #
They need the $80B to rebuild effing
Fallujah. Have you seen pictures of
it lately? Our savvy generals decided to level it in order to drive the
insurgents over to others lairs.
Wake up America! It is both a money
and a soldier pit...
Hedley Lamarr |
12.24.04 - 4:57 pm | #
In a future near you...
Which George Bush do you mean? The one that won the Iraq War or his kid that lost the Iraq War.
folgers |
12.24.04 - 5:00 pm | #
In a future near you...
Which George Bush do you mean? The one that won the Iraq War or his kid that lost the Iraq War.
folgers |
12.24.04 - 5:00 pm | #
and don't forget those big tax cuts that he is going to make permanent! yessir, republican fiscal conservatism at it's best!
we are going to end up doing the argentina thing.
stupidest fuckers who have ever run this country!
dan hoppe |
12.24.04 - 5:00 pm | #
and don't forget those big tax cuts that he is going to make permanent! yessir, republican fiscal conservatism at it's best!
we are going to end up doing the argentina thing.
stupidest fuckers who have ever run this country!
dan hoppe |
12.24.04 - 5:00 pm | #
Friday Catbloggin' and an exclusive kitty treat over here!
When bush asked for the 87 billion he looked like he was chewing a dogshit sandwich.Just this morning we learn that bush will deploy missles along the north\south korean border.
Im not sure we can survive four more years of this knucklehead.
notch |
12.24.04 - 5:01 pm | #
When bush asked for the 87 billion he looked like he was chewing a dogshit sandwich.Just this morning we learn that bush will deploy missles along the north\south korean border.
Im not sure we can survive four more years of this knucklehead.
notch |
12.24.04 - 5:01 pm | #
Goddamn goddamn goddamn --
Y'know, I need, like, twelve hundred bucks a month to get by. That's all. Multiply me by the entire country, and we're talking at most $460 million. A month. That'll pay the bills, and allow some small comforts. Round it up to $500 million for the sake of some hefty mortgages and rents. Heck, make it $1 billion, because of apartment prices in New York City.
I can't get that thousand bucks without scraping and working my ass off. There aren't jobs for what I used to do, and in my current physical condition fast food or retail would kill me for a pittance. Multiply that, as well, by at least fifty million men, women, and children who are having tough times just getting by .
But this motherfucker of a preznit we're stuck with blithely tacks another $80 billion -- outside the budget and the budget process, mind you -- onto the already obscene bill for an obscene war.
Y'know, I need, like, twelve hundred bucks a month to get by. That's all. Multiply me by the entire country, and we're talking at most $460 million. A month. That'll pay the bills, and allow some small comforts. Round it up to $500 million for the sake of some hefty mortgages and rents. Heck, make it $1 billion, because of apartment prices in New York City.
I can't get that thousand bucks without scraping and working my ass off. There aren't jobs for what I used to do, and in my current physical condition fast food or retail would kill me for a pittance. Multiply that, as well, by at least fifty million men, women, and children who are having tough times just getting by .
But this motherfucker of a preznit we're stuck with blithely tacks another $80 billion -- outside the budget and the budget process, mind you -- onto the already obscene bill for an obscene war.
The White House yesterday endorsed the assassination of Saddam Hussein as a means of achieving its aim of regime change in Iraq.
Ari Fleischer, the White House press secretary, said that a "one-way ticket" or a "single bullet" were ways of dealing with the Iraqi leader. Fleischer emphasized that the Bush administration had no plans to rescind the executive order, which prohibits the assassination of heads of state.
Fleischer called reporters after the briefing to tone down the impact of his words.
"I was making a rhetorical point about the cost of the bullet," he said. "The point I'm making is not an administration policy. If the Iraqi people took events into their own hands, the world would not shed a tear. I'm not stating administration policy, I'm stating the obvious."
sunzoo |
12.24.04 - 5:04 pm | #
The White House yesterday endorsed the assassination of Saddam Hussein as a means of achieving its aim of regime change in Iraq.
Ari Fleischer, the White House press secretary, said that a "one-way ticket" or a "single bullet" were ways of dealing with the Iraqi leader. Fleischer emphasized that the Bush administration had no plans to rescind the executive order, which prohibits the assassination of heads of state.
Fleischer called reporters after the briefing to tone down the impact of his words.
"I was making a rhetorical point about the cost of the bullet," he said. "The point I'm making is not an administration policy. If the Iraqi people took events into their own hands, the world would not shed a tear. I'm not stating administration policy, I'm stating the obvious."
sunzoo |
12.24.04 - 5:04 pm | #
"I can only say the cost of a one-way ticket is substantially less than that. The cost of one bullet, the Iraqi people taking it (on) themselves, is substantially less than that, the cost of war is more than that." - White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer
sunzoo |
12.24.04 - 5:05 pm | #
"I can only say the cost of a one-way ticket is substantially less than that. The cost of one bullet, the Iraqi people taking it (on) themselves, is substantially less than that, the cost of war is more than that." - White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer
sunzoo |
12.24.04 - 5:05 pm | #
But Jim Kolbe's gay!
GWPDA |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:05 pm | #
But Jim Kolbe's gay!
GWPDA |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:05 pm | #
They are fucking robbing us blind. Someone wake the fuck up - please. They are stealing everything, nailed down and not.
AAAAAaaaaaaaaaararrrrrrrghghghghghgh!
Tena
They'd steal Jesus if he wasn't nailed down (thanks to Kinky Friedman for the line).
9toed nihilist |
12.24.04 - 5:06 pm | #
They are fucking robbing us blind. Someone wake the fuck up - please. They are stealing everything, nailed down and not.
AAAAAaaaaaaaaaararrrrrrrghghghghghgh!
Tena
They'd steal Jesus if he wasn't nailed down (thanks to Kinky Friedman for the line).
9toed nihilist |
12.24.04 - 5:06 pm | #
Totally OT but...
something just occurred to me as i was unloading the car (just got back from my San Diego summer-to-winter odyssey):
Does Pope O'Reilly I, the Defender of Christmas™, attend Christmas Mass?
T'would be verrry interesting to find out...
renato |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:06 pm | #
Totally OT but...
something just occurred to me as i was unloading the car (just got back from my San Diego summer-to-winter odyssey):
Does Pope O'Reilly I, the Defender of Christmas™, attend Christmas Mass?
T'would be verrry interesting to find out...
renato |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:06 pm | #
"I was making a rhetorical point about the cost of the bullet," he said. "The point I'm making is not an administration policy. If the American people took events into their own hands, the world would not shed a tear. I'm not stating administration policy, I'm stating the obvious."
sbt |
12.24.04 - 5:09 pm | #
"I was making a rhetorical point about the cost of the bullet," he said. "The point I'm making is not an administration policy. If the American people took events into their own hands, the world would not shed a tear. I'm not stating administration policy, I'm stating the obvious."
sbt |
12.24.04 - 5:09 pm | #
"that a "one-way ticket" or a "single bullet" were ways of dealing with the Iraqi leader."
But gee, that's what Edward Said always said about the Sha-nah-nah - a one bullet democracy. This administration never gets anything right at the right time do they? Just one big grab bag; pull out whatever you touch and make it fit.
GWPDA |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:11 pm | #
"that a "one-way ticket" or a "single bullet" were ways of dealing with the Iraqi leader."
But gee, that's what Edward Said always said about the Sha-nah-nah - a one bullet democracy. This administration never gets anything right at the right time do they? Just one big grab bag; pull out whatever you touch and make it fit.
GWPDA |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:11 pm | #
YIKES! I'm going to have hold off on the ARGHing for a little while now. My head almost spun off on that last one.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:11 pm | #
YIKES! I'm going to have hold off on the ARGHing for a little while now. My head almost spun off on that last one.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:11 pm | #
The chief architect of the "single bullet theory" was the Warren Commission's ambitious junior counsel, Arlen Specter, now U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania. In the reenactment photo (below right) Specter, with his pointer in hand, attempts to make the "single bullet theory" appear more plausible by deceptively indicating a straight line trajectory for the bullet.
single |
12.24.04 - 5:11 pm | #
The chief architect of the "single bullet theory" was the Warren Commission's ambitious junior counsel, Arlen Specter, now U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania. In the reenactment photo (below right) Specter, with his pointer in hand, attempts to make the "single bullet theory" appear more plausible by deceptively indicating a straight line trajectory for the bullet.
single |
12.24.04 - 5:11 pm | #
Need I point out that there will be hardly a word of protest or criticism from Democrats. Republicans will say its needed for the troops and Democrats will act like they've been neutered like a cat, because they have....
John |
12.24.04 - 5:15 pm | #
Need I point out that there will be hardly a word of protest or criticism from Democrats. Republicans will say its needed for the troops and Democrats will act like they've been neutered like a cat, because they have....
John |
12.24.04 - 5:15 pm | #
If Iraq was part of the domestic budget it would be cut. Go figure.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:23 pm | #
If Iraq was part of the domestic budget it would be cut. Go figure.
George Johnston |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:23 pm | #
an ***ULTIMATE*** in FRIDAY ONE CHEEK-SNEAKS!!!!!!
n69n |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:23 pm | #
an ***ULTIMATE*** in FRIDAY ONE CHEEK-SNEAKS!!!!!!
n69n |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:23 pm | #
give until it bleeds muthafuckahs......
th |
12.24.04 - 5:25 pm | #
give until it bleeds muthafuckahs......
th |
12.24.04 - 5:25 pm | #
n69n -- don't say that so loud. New Year's Eve is on Friday this year, too. :-/
filkertom |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:25 pm | #
n69n -- don't say that so loud. New Year's Eve is on Friday this year, too. :-/
filkertom |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:25 pm | #
Need I point out that there will be hardly a word of protest or criticism from Democrats.
John | Email | 12.24.04 - 5:15 pm | #
Not much for them to do. Bush has his man date and the press seems to agree. Nothing to do but ride it out until the world comes back to its senses. I suggest a steady regimen of drugs and booze.
Is it time to drop gun control off the platform yet? Its been off mine for awhile.
John Gillnitz |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:27 pm | #
Need I point out that there will be hardly a word of protest or criticism from Democrats.
John | Email | 12.24.04 - 5:15 pm | #
Not much for them to do. Bush has his man date and the press seems to agree. Nothing to do but ride it out until the world comes back to its senses. I suggest a steady regimen of drugs and booze.
Is it time to drop gun control off the platform yet? Its been off mine for awhile.
John Gillnitz |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:27 pm | #
Has there ever been a regime as chock-full of blatant liars, thieves, crooks, thugs, and gunsels as this bunch of fucking goobers???
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 5:27 pm | #
Has there ever been a regime as chock-full of blatant liars, thieves, crooks, thugs, and gunsels as this bunch of fucking goobers???
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 5:27 pm | #
I already posted this and haloscan ate it. If it comes up twice, please excuse me.
This makes two. Any other good news to come out tonight, or do we have to wait for next Friday.
QuiltLady in NY |
12.24.04 - 5:27 pm | #
Click my homepage for how we are probably gonna start bombing in Syria.
Although I understand the Jerusalem Post may not be the most reliable of sources.
QuiltLady in NY |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:28 pm | #
Click my homepage for how we are probably gonna start bombing in Syria.
Although I understand the Jerusalem Post may not be the most reliable of sources.
QuiltLady in NY |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:28 pm | #
From this month's Lewis Lapham "Notebook", Harper's Magazine (January 2005)
True Blue
....
The credibility of the story adrift in cyberspace had less to do with the certainty of the numbers than with the character of the Bush Administration. If we know nothing else about the government now returning to office in Washington, we know that it doesn't hesitate to cheat and steal and lie. Its family values are those of the Corleone and Soprano families, and thus in line not only with the heartland values of the nineteenth-century American frontier but also with the predatory modus operandi of our twenty-first-century business corporations; an administration capable of perpetrating the murderous fraud of Operation Iraqi Freedom almost certainly would count it as a loss of face if it couldn't further serve God's will by fixing a presidential election....
Much more - Harper's, it turns out, doesn't believe the story being told by the Shrubbery. No, not at all.
GWPDA |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:29 pm | #
From this month's Lewis Lapham "Notebook", Harper's Magazine (January 2005)
True Blue
....
The credibility of the story adrift in cyberspace had less to do with the certainty of the numbers than with the character of the Bush Administration. If we know nothing else about the government now returning to office in Washington, we know that it doesn't hesitate to cheat and steal and lie. Its family values are those of the Corleone and Soprano families, and thus in line not only with the heartland values of the nineteenth-century American frontier but also with the predatory modus operandi of our twenty-first-century business corporations; an administration capable of perpetrating the murderous fraud of Operation Iraqi Freedom almost certainly would count it as a loss of face if it couldn't further serve God's will by fixing a presidential election....
Much more - Harper's, it turns out, doesn't believe the story being told by the Shrubbery. No, not at all.
GWPDA |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:29 pm | #
I think String may be evil. He has some of the coldest narrow eyes looking up at me right now they'd turn your blood to ice if you saw them for yourself.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:29 pm | #
I think String may be evil. He has some of the coldest narrow eyes looking up at me right now they'd turn your blood to ice if you saw them for yourself.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:29 pm | #
none of the congress will say to bring home the troops now and preclude the need for the money...all the money in the world will help in this fools errand...remember how 4x4's full of cash bought us osama...it's going to be open warfare in Iraq with or without our troops...the civil war is
already started..the attacks on civilian targets is the result of our siding with the anti sunni element...chalabi and the Iranians are letting our troops do their wet work for them and will mop up and control the oil
and the list of restrictions and laws left behind bremmer will be out and
we will have nothing for the lives of our troops and the debt...except for the scum that profits from all this CHENEY RING A BELL...
romanwalls |
12.24.04 - 5:29 pm | #
none of the congress will say to bring home the troops now and preclude the need for the money...all the money in the world will help in this fools errand...remember how 4x4's full of cash bought us osama...it's going to be open warfare in Iraq with or without our troops...the civil war is
already started..the attacks on civilian targets is the result of our siding with the anti sunni element...chalabi and the Iranians are letting our troops do their wet work for them and will mop up and control the oil
and the list of restrictions and laws left behind bremmer will be out and
we will have nothing for the lives of our troops and the debt...except for the scum that profits from all this CHENEY RING A BELL...
romanwalls |
12.24.04 - 5:29 pm | #
authorisation
defence
travelled
criticised
Anti-American propaganda
Santa, Baby Jesus and Bill |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:30 pm | #
authorisation
defence
travelled
criticised
Anti-American propaganda
Santa, Baby Jesus and Bill |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:30 pm | #
wgg aka kono--
I used to think Nixon's regime was the most corrupt, but these people almost make Nixon look like a well-adjusted compassionate statesman. I don't think there's ever been a more nefarioius group of thieving malcontents running our country-- straight into the ground.
Rexroth's Daughter |
12.24.04 - 5:34 pm | #
wgg aka kono--
I used to think Nixon's regime was the most corrupt, but these people almost make Nixon look like a well-adjusted compassionate statesman. I don't think there's ever been a more nefarioius group of thieving malcontents running our country-- straight into the ground.
Rexroth's Daughter |
12.24.04 - 5:34 pm | #
QuiltLady--links don't work for me, thanks for trying.
dread pirate roberts |
12.24.04 - 5:35 pm | #
QuiltLady--links don't work for me, thanks for trying.
dread pirate roberts |
12.24.04 - 5:35 pm | #
Much more - Harper's, it turns out, doesn't believe the story being told by the Shrubbery. No, not at all.
GWPDA
I think i'd support Lapham for philosopher/king...or, at least pundit/prince...
seriously, the guy's a serious genius, and Harpers' is the best general circ mag in the whole fuckin country...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 5:35 pm | #
Much more - Harper's, it turns out, doesn't believe the story being told by the Shrubbery. No, not at all.
GWPDA
I think i'd support Lapham for philosopher/king...or, at least pundit/prince...
seriously, the guy's a serious genius, and Harpers' is the best general circ mag in the whole fuckin country...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 5:35 pm | #
Heh. "Man date".
I just got the most awful, evil idea. And I mean really awful, really evil.
We all get new Hotmail accounts, see. Or Yahoo. Or something common and anonymous. Make up names and addresses.
And we all e-mail the Preznit the filthiest slash we can find.
I mean the real awful stuff. Mary-Sue-ridden Harry Potter/X-Men crossovers with pony training, Roman showers, bloodplay and scat. Lotsa bukkake for Sean Hannity.
Send copies to Condi, Rummy, Cheney, Hannity, Rush, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Bill O'Reilly, James Dobson, Rick Santorum, Jim Cornyn, and Dan Coburn. And John Ashcroft, just for spite.
Problem is, it'd likely end up with fan fiction itself being outlawed. On copyright infringement basis or somesuch. And my lady friend would kill me, get some voodoo priest to raise me up, and then kill me again.
filkertom |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:36 pm | #
Heh. "Man date".
I just got the most awful, evil idea. And I mean really awful, really evil.
We all get new Hotmail accounts, see. Or Yahoo. Or something common and anonymous. Make up names and addresses.
And we all e-mail the Preznit the filthiest slash we can find.
I mean the real awful stuff. Mary-Sue-ridden Harry Potter/X-Men crossovers with pony training, Roman showers, bloodplay and scat. Lotsa bukkake for Sean Hannity.
Send copies to Condi, Rummy, Cheney, Hannity, Rush, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Bill O'Reilly, James Dobson, Rick Santorum, Jim Cornyn, and Dan Coburn. And John Ashcroft, just for spite.
Problem is, it'd likely end up with fan fiction itself being outlawed. On copyright infringement basis or somesuch. And my lady friend would kill me, get some voodoo priest to raise me up, and then kill me again.
filkertom |
Homepage |
12.24.04 - 5:36 pm | #
OK, Atrios, yer the economist around here; If all the money poured down the Iraq rathole, about $200B so far, another $80B coming up, had been stuck into 5 year CDs, to be rolled over every 5 years, and the proceeds deeded to the SSTF, what would have been the overall effect on the Great Social Security Question?
Doozer among Fraggles |
12.24.04 - 5:36 pm | #
OK, Atrios, yer the economist around here; If all the money poured down the Iraq rathole, about $200B so far, another $80B coming up, had been stuck into 5 year CDs, to be rolled over every 5 years, and the proceeds deeded to the SSTF, what would have been the overall effect on the Great Social Security Question?
Doozer among Fraggles |
12.24.04 - 5:36 pm | #
i forgot Barbara Lee D,Ca...the last honorable person to take the oath of office in our congress...the only one to vote against the war...represents
Oakand-Berkeley naturally...small but
furious gloating here...
romanwalls |
12.24.04 - 5:37 pm | #
i forgot Barbara Lee D,Ca...the last honorable person to take the oath of office in our congress...the only one to vote against the war...represents
Oakand-Berkeley naturally...small but
furious gloating here...
romanwalls |
12.24.04 - 5:37 pm | #
I don't think there's ever been a more nefarioius group of thieving malcontents running our country-- straight into the ground.
Rexroth's Daughter
It's over. I don't know how many times I have to keep saying that before it sinks in ya'lls skulls around here. I plan to be out of the country by August. String and me are getting the fuck out for good.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:38 pm | #
I don't think there's ever been a more nefarioius group of thieving malcontents running our country-- straight into the ground.
Rexroth's Daughter
It's over. I don't know how many times I have to keep saying that before it sinks in ya'lls skulls around here. I plan to be out of the country by August. String and me are getting the fuck out for good.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:38 pm | #
Rex's fil:
Most of the most feculent movers and shakers (Cheney & Rumsfeld in particular) in this outfit cut their teeth plotting coups and dreaming up international assassinations in the Nixon regime...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 5:38 pm | #
Rex's fil:
Most of the most feculent movers and shakers (Cheney & Rumsfeld in particular) in this outfit cut their teeth plotting coups and dreaming up international assassinations in the Nixon regime...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 5:38 pm | #
Ô¿Ô - he's just practicing making faces and fooling with power. Like a kid with a mirror.
GWPDA |
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12.24.04 - 5:38 pm | #
Ô¿Ô - he's just practicing making faces and fooling with power. Like a kid with a mirror.
GWPDA |
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12.24.04 - 5:38 pm | #
Send copies to Condi, Rummy, Cheney, Hannity, Rush, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Bill O'Reilly, James Dobson, Rick Santorum, Jim Cornyn, and Dan Coburn. And John Ashcroft, just for spite.
filkertom | 12.24.04 - 5:36 pm | #
filkertom, you make it sound like they aren't reading that anyway. Under the covers with a flashlight and astroglide.
John Gillnitz |
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12.24.04 - 5:39 pm | #
Send copies to Condi, Rummy, Cheney, Hannity, Rush, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Bill O'Reilly, James Dobson, Rick Santorum, Jim Cornyn, and Dan Coburn. And John Ashcroft, just for spite.
filkertom | 12.24.04 - 5:36 pm | #
filkertom, you make it sound like they aren't reading that anyway. Under the covers with a flashlight and astroglide.
John Gillnitz |
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12.24.04 - 5:39 pm | #
String and me are going to be so fucking gone for good you wont fucking believe it.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:40 pm | #
String and me are going to be so fucking gone for good you wont fucking believe it.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:40 pm | #
John Gillnitz -- okay, that queep you heard from your system speaker was my gag reflex kicking in.
filkertom |
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12.24.04 - 5:40 pm | #
John Gillnitz -- okay, that queep you heard from your system speaker was my gag reflex kicking in.
filkertom |
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12.24.04 - 5:40 pm | #
Ô¿Ô - he's just practicing making faces and fooling with power. Like a kid with a mirror.
GWPDA
You're right but nobody else will believe it. I caught him posing in the full lenght mirror a few days ago. I kid you not. He was coming up with different looks.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:42 pm | #
Ô¿Ô - he's just practicing making faces and fooling with power. Like a kid with a mirror.
GWPDA
You're right but nobody else will believe it. I caught him posing in the full lenght mirror a few days ago. I kid you not. He was coming up with different looks.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:42 pm | #
Must fly. Catch you all later this evening.
filkertom |
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12.24.04 - 5:47 pm | #
Must fly. Catch you all later this evening.
filkertom |
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12.24.04 - 5:47 pm | #
And another damn thing; (Bearing in mind I know approximately zip about Internatiional high finance)
When we propose spending like this, since it's pure Deficit Spending, we're, in effect, asking Red China and Japan--and others, too, of course--to finance whatever the hell it is we just proclaimed we want to do. Can we rely on them--mainly China--to always base their T-Bill buying decisions solely on financial considerations? Is politics not going to rear it's ugly head, and leave Uncle Sugar trying to peddle paper that other nations shoul want, but for purely political reasons, do not?
Or are the above the nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind?
Doozer among Fraggles |
12.24.04 - 5:48 pm | #
And another damn thing; (Bearing in mind I know approximately zip about Internatiional high finance)
When we propose spending like this, since it's pure Deficit Spending, we're, in effect, asking Red China and Japan--and others, too, of course--to finance whatever the hell it is we just proclaimed we want to do. Can we rely on them--mainly China--to always base their T-Bill buying decisions solely on financial considerations? Is politics not going to rear it's ugly head, and leave Uncle Sugar trying to peddle paper that other nations shoul want, but for purely political reasons, do not?
Or are the above the nonsensical ravings of a lunatic mind?
Doozer among Fraggles |
12.24.04 - 5:48 pm | #
huh? war with no tax levy? miracle! we make magic war! magic war on you arab-man! yee-haw.
nur al cubicle |
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12.24.04 - 5:48 pm | #
huh? war with no tax levy? miracle! we make magic war! magic war on you arab-man! yee-haw.
nur al cubicle |
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12.24.04 - 5:48 pm | #
Used to blame Democrats, but what the fuck can they do? America continues putting more wingers in office. This seems what joe 6pack wants. How do you make these morons bright enough to see the obvious? Things were headed over the cliff before 11/2 and it seems most are willing to take the dive with Baby jesus dubya.
DUBYA |
12.24.04 - 5:52 pm | #
Used to blame Democrats, but what the fuck can they do? America continues putting more wingers in office. This seems what joe 6pack wants. How do you make these morons bright enough to see the obvious? Things were headed over the cliff before 11/2 and it seems most are willing to take the dive with Baby jesus dubya.
DUBYA |
12.24.04 - 5:52 pm | #
I'm not going to be able to handle another 4 years of this shit. At some point, I've got to tune it out and pretend it's not happening.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:52 pm | #
I'm not going to be able to handle another 4 years of this shit. At some point, I've got to tune it out and pretend it's not happening.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:52 pm | #
"He was coming up with different looks." Arthur used to do that as an adolescent - 'cause he'd been thrown away and had nobody to practice on he was a bit late, but still. Made the fiercest, wrinkly faces at me - and later when I was moving and had a big mirror leaning against the wall, he'd practice in that. Yes, he understood it was a reflection.
Did you learn about animals and Christmas Eve yet?
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12.24.04 - 5:53 pm | #
"He was coming up with different looks." Arthur used to do that as an adolescent - 'cause he'd been thrown away and had nobody to practice on he was a bit late, but still. Made the fiercest, wrinkly faces at me - and later when I was moving and had a big mirror leaning against the wall, he'd practice in that. Yes, he understood it was a reflection.
Did you learn about animals and Christmas Eve yet?
GWPDA |
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12.24.04 - 5:53 pm | #
Did you learn about animals and Christmas Eve yet?
GWPDA
No, what happens? This is the first cat I've ever had.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:55 pm | #
Did you learn about animals and Christmas Eve yet?
GWPDA
No, what happens? This is the first cat I've ever had.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 5:55 pm | #
notch - are you fucking kidding me about the missiles? If not, then Merry Fucking Christmas to us all indeed.
That's what we get for ever letting the little son of a bitch get his foot in the door - we should have stopped him here. Fuck!
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12.24.04 - 5:59 pm | #
notch - are you fucking kidding me about the missiles? If not, then Merry Fucking Christmas to us all indeed.
That's what we get for ever letting the little son of a bitch get his foot in the door - we should have stopped him here. Fuck!
Tena |
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12.24.04 - 5:59 pm | #
thud...thud...thud...thud.
That's the sound of my head hitting the wall. Every Friday.
thud...thud...thud.
gottalaff |
12.24.04 - 6:03 pm | #
thud...thud...thud...thud.
That's the sound of my head hitting the wall. Every Friday.
thud...thud...thud.
gottalaff |
12.24.04 - 6:03 pm | #
Well thank god much of the construction is being overseen by the guy that was in charge "the big dig"...
Oh shit.
behind the xian curtain |
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12.24.04 - 6:04 pm | #
Well thank god much of the construction is being overseen by the guy that was in charge "the big dig"...
Oh shit.
behind the xian curtain |
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12.24.04 - 6:04 pm | #
No, what happens? This is the first cat I've ever had.
Ô¿Ô
The legend is that the animals can talk in Christmas eve...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 6:04 pm | #
No, what happens? This is the first cat I've ever had.
Ô¿Ô
The legend is that the animals can talk in Christmas eve...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 6:04 pm | #
Folks, I'm an intuitive. I wont go into detail what that means at this particular juncture but I'm just saying be prepared by this time next fall. Something really bad happens about that time. Really awful. That's what all my visions and dreams tell me and lead to.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:06 pm | #
Folks, I'm an intuitive. I wont go into detail what that means at this particular juncture but I'm just saying be prepared by this time next fall. Something really bad happens about that time. Really awful. That's what all my visions and dreams tell me and lead to.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:06 pm | #
The legend is that the animals can talk in Christmas eve...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono
Get the fuck out. No way!
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:07 pm | #
The legend is that the animals can talk in Christmas eve...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono
Get the fuck out. No way!
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:07 pm | #
So, what is the answer - what do we do? Someone I know tells me that we have to stop paying taxes - yeah, right! Both my jobs take taxes right on out of my checks. I don't want to go to jail for nonpayment of taxes, either.
Ô¿Ô - Glad to see that you are ok. Was it GWPDA that was telling you about the big cats in your area and how String could be related. Roowwwr!
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12.24.04 - 6:09 pm | #
So, what is the answer - what do we do? Someone I know tells me that we have to stop paying taxes - yeah, right! Both my jobs take taxes right on out of my checks. I don't want to go to jail for nonpayment of taxes, either.
Ô¿Ô - Glad to see that you are ok. Was it GWPDA that was telling you about the big cats in your area and how String could be related. Roowwwr!
oldwhitelady |
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12.24.04 - 6:09 pm | #
its bad news,on xmas eve no less.
notch |
12.24.04 - 6:10 pm | #
Ô¿Ô - Glad to see that you are ok. Was it GWPDA that was telling you about the big cats in your area and how String could be related. Roowwwr!
oldwhitelady
I must have missed what she wrote. But we have these huge black cats here and that's one of the reasons I took String. There's one where I work I've seen late at night next to a huge swamp. I'm serious, if you saw that thing up close, it would chill your blood. They're lengthier and larger than a regular cat.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:14 pm | #
Ô¿Ô - Glad to see that you are ok. Was it GWPDA that was telling you about the big cats in your area and how String could be related. Roowwwr!
oldwhitelady
I must have missed what she wrote. But we have these huge black cats here and that's one of the reasons I took String. There's one where I work I've seen late at night next to a huge swamp. I'm serious, if you saw that thing up close, it would chill your blood. They're lengthier and larger than a regular cat.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:14 pm | #
The legend is that the animals can talk in Christmas eve..
Are you sure, this isn't like that Santa fiasco we discussed last night, is it?
weblackey |
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12.24.04 - 6:14 pm | #
The legend is that the animals can talk in Christmas eve..
Are you sure, this isn't like that Santa fiasco we discussed last night, is it?
weblackey |
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12.24.04 - 6:14 pm | #
I've sent the guy who has a website about them an email telling him he can come see for himself one with me but he hasn't responded yet.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:15 pm | #
I've sent the guy who has a website about them an email telling him he can come see for himself one with me but he hasn't responded yet.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:15 pm | #
The lack of accountability, the lack of fiscal responsibility of this administration just leaves me bewildered.
As bull moose points out, $40 million will be spent on the inaugural ball this year, an all-time record.
Can someone explain this to me?
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12.24.04 - 6:17 pm | #
The lack of accountability, the lack of fiscal responsibility of this administration just leaves me bewildered.
As bull moose points out, $40 million will be spent on the inaugural ball this year, an all-time record.
Can someone explain this to me?
alt hippo |
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12.24.04 - 6:17 pm | #
I can't take this anymore tonight. S. Korea, Syria, Iraq, SS. Time for some pizza with garlic and a few glasses of Bardoleno.
Ciao, all.
QuiltLady in NY |
12.24.04 - 6:17 pm | #
I can't take this anymore tonight. S. Korea, Syria, Iraq, SS. Time for some pizza with garlic and a few glasses of Bardoleno.
Ciao, all.
QuiltLady in NY |
12.24.04 - 6:17 pm | #
Anyway, I thought he may have been String's dad but I don't think they intermingle with regular cats.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:18 pm | #
Anyway, I thought he may have been String's dad but I don't think they intermingle with regular cats.
Ô¿Ô |
12.24.04 - 6:18 pm | #
The legend is that the animals can talk in Christmas eve...
I thought the legend was that Liddy Dole's auxillary nipple moved to the other side of her body on Christmas eve, all while reciting somoe of Bukowski's poetry.
Or maybe it was that Liddy used vaginal farts to play Jingle Bells.
bebe rebozo |
12.24.04 - 6:19 pm | #
The legend is that the animals can talk in Christmas eve...
I thought the legend was that Liddy Dole's auxillary nipple moved to the other side of her body on Christmas eve, all while reciting somoe of Bukowski's poetry.
Or maybe it was that Liddy used vaginal farts to play Jingle Bells.
bebe rebozo |
12.24.04 - 6:19 pm | #
Incog - It's true about the legend. It's an old one - at the stroke of midnight between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, animals can talk. But only then - you have to catch them quick.
Tena |
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12.24.04 - 6:20 pm | #
Incog - It's true about the legend. It's an old one - at the stroke of midnight between Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, animals can talk. But only then - you have to catch them quick.
Tena |
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12.24.04 - 6:20 pm | #
bebe rebozo,
right on cue, laughter pushes aside for the moment, extreme outrage.
On another note, it sounds like the Canines we are watching for friends have come over for the evening.
glowgirl the APKA kent |
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12.24.04 - 6:23 pm | #
bebe rebozo,
right on cue, laughter pushes aside for the moment, extreme outrage.
On another note, it sounds like the Canines we are watching for friends have come over for the evening.
glowgirl the APKA kent |
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12.24.04 - 6:23 pm | #
OK, that's it. I'm outta here. You all can be as cynical as you want but I'd rather find some small measure of joy tonight.
Ô¿Ô - the deal is that 12 midnight of Christmas Eve/Christmas, every animal in the world is granted the gift of speech for a short time(for sharing so nicely with the wee babe). The thing is, that after a year, they may not have anything to say - or too much saved up to speak. So you have to be ready and listen, and maybe, maybe not. And I just think, from what you've described, that what you've got is a half domestic cat, half panther or puma. Be prepared. Listen close. Arthur hasn't said anything the last three years, but you can't tell.
GWPDA |
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12.24.04 - 6:24 pm | #
Ô¿Ô - the deal is that 12 midnight of Christmas Eve/Christmas, every animal in the world is granted the gift of speech for a short time(for sharing so nicely with the wee babe). The thing is, that after a year, they may not have anything to say - or too much saved up to speak. So you have to be ready and listen, and maybe, maybe not. And I just think, from what you've described, that what you've got is a half domestic cat, half panther or puma. Be prepared. Listen close. Arthur hasn't said anything the last three years, but you can't tell.
GWPDA |
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12.24.04 - 6:24 pm | #
Meanwhile, this little article in WaPo shows Karl "Beast Master" Rove throwing a juicy bone to the slobbering, gnashing fundisexuals:
Bush Will Renominate 20 Judges
During Bush's first term, Democrats would not allow a vote on 10 of the 52 appointments he made to fill vacancies on federal appeals courts. The overwhelming majority of Bush's 229 judicial nominees, however, were confirmed by the Senate. After the Republicans' Election Day gains, conservative groups have been increasing pressure on Senate Republicans to force votes on Bush judicial nominees. Senate Republicans are considering whether to employ a rare and highly controversial parliamentary maneuver -- dubbed the "nuclear option" -- to declare filibusters against judicial nominations unconstitutional.
With this change, nominees could be confirmed by a simple majority of 51 of the 100 senators. Now, it takes 60 votes to break a filibuster and bring the vote to the Senate floor. While Republicans have not yet decided whether to move ahead with this strategy, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (Tenn.) has made it clear he intends to end judicial filibusters "one way or another," as he put it in a recent speech.
Interestingly, a recently gelded Senator from Pennsylvania tugged weakly at his satin leash:
Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), incoming chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he was disappointed that the White House moved so quickly to announce plans to resubmit the nominations.
"I would have preferred there would have been an interlude before they were resubmitted to provide an opportunity to improve the climate on the Judiciary Committee," Specter said in a telephone interview, referring to the bitter partisan fights on the panel over appeals court nominations during the last Congress. Specter added that he is consulting with senators of both parties in hopes of working out a bipartisan agreement for handling judicial nominations.
My question: will we get any Democrat in the Senate to stand up and say, "Mr. Preznit, What part of 'No' did you not understand, you mutherfucking moranic drooling shit-stained fuck-knob?!?"
(It's a rhetorical question, btw.)
Stone Free |
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12.24.04 - 6:25 pm | #
Meanwhile, this little article in WaPo shows Karl "Beast Master" Rove throwing a juicy bone to the slobbering, gnashing fundisexuals:
Bush Will Renominate 20 Judges
During Bush's first term, Democrats would not allow a vote on 10 of the 52 appointments he made to fill vacancies on federal appeals courts. The overwhelming majority of Bush's 229 judicial nominees, however, were confirmed by the Senate. After the Republicans' Election Day gains, conservative groups have been increasing pressure on Senate Republicans to force votes on Bush judicial nominees. Senate Republicans are considering whether to employ a rare and highly controversial parliamentary maneuver -- dubbed the "nuclear option" -- to declare filibusters against judicial nominations unconstitutional.
With this change, nominees could be confirmed by a simple majority of 51 of the 100 senators. Now, it takes 60 votes to break a filibuster and bring the vote to the Senate floor. While Republicans have not yet decided whether to move ahead with this strategy, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (Tenn.) has made it clear he intends to end judicial filibusters "one way or another," as he put it in a recent speech.
Interestingly, a recently gelded Senator from Pennsylvania tugged weakly at his satin leash:
Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), incoming chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he was disappointed that the White House moved so quickly to announce plans to resubmit the nominations.
"I would have preferred there would have been an interlude before they were resubmitted to provide an opportunity to improve the climate on the Judiciary Committee," Specter said in a telephone interview, referring to the bitter partisan fights on the panel over appeals court nominations during the last Congress. Specter added that he is consulting with senators of both parties in hopes of working out a bipartisan agreement for handling judicial nominations.
My question: will we get any Democrat in the Senate to stand up and say, "Mr. Preznit, What part of 'No' did you not understand, you mutherfucking moranic drooling shit-stained fuck-knob?!?"
(It's a rhetorical question, btw.)
Stone Free |
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12.24.04 - 6:25 pm | #
Anent Atriots/Eschatonians...
Please accept my profoundest thanks for 1) being here, 2) being smart, literate, and sophisticated, and 3) letting me play. It means the fucking world to me...and i am immensely grateful
and I just am hearing on Democracy Now that US private Security and military firms--Blackwater, etc--are recruiting Columbians, Salvadorans, and Chileans with backgrounds in private armies and death squads to fight in Iraq...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 6:28 pm | #
Anent Atriots/Eschatonians...
Please accept my profoundest thanks for 1) being here, 2) being smart, literate, and sophisticated, and 3) letting me play. It means the fucking world to me...and i am immensely grateful
and I just am hearing on Democracy Now that US private Security and military firms--Blackwater, etc--are recruiting Columbians, Salvadorans, and Chileans with backgrounds in private armies and death squads to fight in Iraq...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 6:28 pm | #
man, this is starting to add up. pretty soon we'll be talking some serious money for this iraq thing.
Olaf glad and big |
12.24.04 - 6:29 pm | #
man, this is starting to add up. pretty soon we'll be talking some serious money for this iraq thing.
Olaf glad and big |
12.24.04 - 6:29 pm | #
Tena
The legend is true, but they are so disgusted with human behavior lately they have nothing to say to us.
behind the xian curtain |
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12.24.04 - 6:30 pm | #
Tena
The legend is true, but they are so disgusted with human behavior lately they have nothing to say to us.
behind the xian curtain |
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12.24.04 - 6:30 pm | #
yeah, i can explain it, alt hippo. it's because bush would rather spend it on his self agrandisement/inaugeral, then spend it on body armor for the troops. the fucking cocksucker.
dan hoppe |
12.24.04 - 6:37 pm | #
yeah, i can explain it, alt hippo. it's because bush would rather spend it on his self agrandisement/inaugeral, then spend it on body armor for the troops. the fucking cocksucker.
dan hoppe |
12.24.04 - 6:37 pm | #
IIRC, wasn't the amount budgeted for the Iraq war this fiscal year ZERO? It wasn't even in the budget, so these little "appropriation requests" will come up again and again. Fuckers.
During WW2, the top tax rate was about 90%-for the ultra rich. Has anyone here ever come across news or info from that time of a single person whining about paying their taxes during a time of war? I don't, and my father and other relatives served then. Anyone who did complain would probably been run out of town on a rail (or whatever they said in the 40's.) WTF is wrong with this country?
When did a majority of Americans become such selfish bastards?
Sorry to rant today, been trying to stay in a good mood, celebrate this weekend a little, but I'm having a hard time doing it.
Thanks to all the Atriots for the laughs and info this year. It's been easier because of all of you. Tow
TheOtherWashington |
12.24.04 - 6:38 pm | #
IIRC, wasn't the amount budgeted for the Iraq war this fiscal year ZERO? It wasn't even in the budget, so these little "appropriation requests" will come up again and again. Fuckers.
During WW2, the top tax rate was about 90%-for the ultra rich. Has anyone here ever come across news or info from that time of a single person whining about paying their taxes during a time of war? I don't, and my father and other relatives served then. Anyone who did complain would probably been run out of town on a rail (or whatever they said in the 40's.) WTF is wrong with this country?
When did a majority of Americans become such selfish bastards?
Sorry to rant today, been trying to stay in a good mood, celebrate this weekend a little, but I'm having a hard time doing it.
Thanks to all the Atriots for the laughs and info this year. It's been easier because of all of you. Tow
TheOtherWashington |
12.24.04 - 6:38 pm | #
Ô¿Ô, trust me, my friend; regular readers are not, indeed cannot be, insensible of the warning cries of impending catastrophe you incessantly narrow-cast here in various personae. We get the message!
And if you're even half as attuned and prescient as you profess to be, and I believe that you are, you'll recognize the moment to stay or go and act accordingly-- unless you slip on a puddle of Stoli or String piss, or finally pump so hard and fast that you snap the chains on your mood swing and go whirling into orbit like a bottle rocket. You've certainly come close to escape velocity a few times here.
All that said, the fact is that if you do take off, like Yossarian at the end of "Catch-22", you're almost certain to wind up somewhere that has electricity and telephone service. And you're going to get a job. And even if you don't have a PC at first, you'll eventually get one or find someone who does.
So my guess is that no matter where you go, you're not going anywhere as far as we're concerned.
With all due respect to the "good riddance!" contingent, that's a good thing. Because the Eschaton must be heralded with jeremiads. You are a pinwheel of Apocalypse, and I can relate.
Given all of the conflict and controversy about appropriate holiday greetings, I'll play it safe and give
Ô¿Ô and the rest of you one of these:
Little Brøther |
12.24.04 - 6:42 pm | #
Ô¿Ô, trust me, my friend; regular readers are not, indeed cannot be, insensible of the warning cries of impending catastrophe you incessantly narrow-cast here in various personae. We get the message!
And if you're even half as attuned and prescient as you profess to be, and I believe that you are, you'll recognize the moment to stay or go and act accordingly-- unless you slip on a puddle of Stoli or String piss, or finally pump so hard and fast that you snap the chains on your mood swing and go whirling into orbit like a bottle rocket. You've certainly come close to escape velocity a few times here.
All that said, the fact is that if you do take off, like Yossarian at the end of "Catch-22", you're almost certain to wind up somewhere that has electricity and telephone service. And you're going to get a job. And even if you don't have a PC at first, you'll eventually get one or find someone who does.
So my guess is that no matter where you go, you're not going anywhere as far as we're concerned.
With all due respect to the "good riddance!" contingent, that's a good thing. Because the Eschaton must be heralded with jeremiads. You are a pinwheel of Apocalypse, and I can relate.
Given all of the conflict and controversy about appropriate holiday greetings, I'll play it safe and give
Ô¿Ô and the rest of you one of these:
Little Brøther |
12.24.04 - 6:42 pm | #
During WW2, the top tax rate was about 90%-for the ultra rich. Has anyone here ever come across news or info from that time of a single person whining about paying their taxes during a time of war?
The rich hated WWII. They paid, but they hated it. I remember both sets of grand-parents grumbled endlessly about how they had been misused. They complained a lot, but mainly among themselves. It persisted long after the end of martial hostilities. That's why there is such an enduring animus against the works of Roosevelt...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 6:46 pm | #
During WW2, the top tax rate was about 90%-for the ultra rich. Has anyone here ever come across news or info from that time of a single person whining about paying their taxes during a time of war?
The rich hated WWII. They paid, but they hated it. I remember both sets of grand-parents grumbled endlessly about how they had been misused. They complained a lot, but mainly among themselves. It persisted long after the end of martial hostilities. That's why there is such an enduring animus against the works of Roosevelt...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 6:46 pm | #
Just caught Rumsfield responding to a planted softball question, and making a snarky joke about the armor question calling it planted by the Media. The Media that's on its knees before King George is the real problem in Iraq-yeah, right.
OMG what a repulsive human being-no wonder he picked Cheney to be his protege. I can't believe that either one has a redeeming quality.
Sweet Sue |
12.24.04 - 6:47 pm | #
Just caught Rumsfield responding to a planted softball question, and making a snarky joke about the armor question calling it planted by the Media. The Media that's on its knees before King George is the real problem in Iraq-yeah, right.
OMG what a repulsive human being-no wonder he picked Cheney to be his protege. I can't believe that either one has a redeeming quality.
Sweet Sue |
12.24.04 - 6:47 pm | #
A pinwheel of Apocalypse!
what a vivid line...well said
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 6:50 pm | #
A pinwheel of Apocalypse!
what a vivid line...well said
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 6:50 pm | #
incognito, string isn't evil. he probably just wants to kill something.
you may need to get him a buddy. cats don't like to be by themselves. they think they do, but they really don't.
Olaf glad and big |
12.24.04 - 6:53 pm | #
incognito, string isn't evil. he probably just wants to kill something.
you may need to get him a buddy. cats don't like to be by themselves. they think they do, but they really don't.
Olaf glad and big |
12.24.04 - 6:53 pm | #
WGG, that does explain the hated of Roosevelt and the burning desire to undo all his programs. You'd think after a decade or two they'd cool down and realize it WORKED! Lots of families sacrificed children in that war, so who the fuck are they to complain about paying money, especially since they made so much more after the war?
My mantra for this weekend is Jesus was a liberal,
Jesus was a liberal,
Jesus was a liberal
Maybe one day even the Repug's will see that. Not holding my breath or anything...
Tow
TheOtherWashington |
12.24.04 - 6:54 pm | #
WGG, that does explain the hated of Roosevelt and the burning desire to undo all his programs. You'd think after a decade or two they'd cool down and realize it WORKED! Lots of families sacrificed children in that war, so who the fuck are they to complain about paying money, especially since they made so much more after the war?
My mantra for this weekend is Jesus was a liberal,
Jesus was a liberal,
Jesus was a liberal
Maybe one day even the Repug's will see that. Not holding my breath or anything...
Tow
TheOtherWashington |
12.24.04 - 6:54 pm | #
Do you have to celebrate x-mas for the animals to talk?
I mean, growing up on a farm, we never celebrated and the animals never talked - or I never noticed.
My cats look like they would like to say something now and again - Especially the 18 month old - He sits and stares at me. Sometimes, he comes on over and gets on my lap. Other times, he comes over and lays down on my feet.
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12.24.04 - 6:55 pm | #
Do you have to celebrate x-mas for the animals to talk?
I mean, growing up on a farm, we never celebrated and the animals never talked - or I never noticed.
My cats look like they would like to say something now and again - Especially the 18 month old - He sits and stares at me. Sometimes, he comes on over and gets on my lap. Other times, he comes over and lays down on my feet.
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12.24.04 - 6:55 pm | #
Just caught Rumsfield responding to a planted softball question, and making a snarky joke about the armor question calling it planted by the Media.
Sweet Sue
Wasn't there an article the other day when the soldier denied the question being planted by the media?
oldwhitelady |
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12.24.04 - 6:57 pm | #
Just caught Rumsfield responding to a planted softball question, and making a snarky joke about the armor question calling it planted by the Media.
Sweet Sue
Wasn't there an article the other day when the soldier denied the question being planted by the media?
oldwhitelady |
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12.24.04 - 6:57 pm | #
Maybe one day even the Repug's will see that
I am certain that you are aware that greedy sanctimonious bigots will not recognise that picture if you engraved it upside down on their retinas.
glowgirl the APKA kent |
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12.24.04 - 6:58 pm | #
Maybe one day even the Repug's will see that
I am certain that you are aware that greedy sanctimonious bigots will not recognise that picture if you engraved it upside down on their retinas.
glowgirl the APKA kent |
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12.24.04 - 6:58 pm | #
who the fuck are they to complain about paying money, especially since they made so much more after the war?
ummm, for the really rich, they love their money best...that's how they hold on to it generation after generation...and they paid with their children, too...everybody did, really; noblesse oblige, and all that...but you can always have more children; money was harder come by...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 7:01 pm | #
who the fuck are they to complain about paying money, especially since they made so much more after the war?
ummm, for the really rich, they love their money best...that's how they hold on to it generation after generation...and they paid with their children, too...everybody did, really; noblesse oblige, and all that...but you can always have more children; money was harder come by...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 7:01 pm | #
,i>Wasn't there an article the other day when the soldier denied the question being planted by the media?
I don't know; I didn't see it but I do know that the other soldiers cheered when the question was asked.
My cat likes to lay at my feet too.
She likes me to massage her with my foot and has a fascination with my shoes. We're thinking fetish.
Sweet Sue |
12.24.04 - 7:03 pm | #
,i>Wasn't there an article the other day when the soldier denied the question being planted by the media?
I don't know; I didn't see it but I do know that the other soldiers cheered when the question was asked.
My cat likes to lay at my feet too.
She likes me to massage her with my foot and has a fascination with my shoes. We're thinking fetish.
Sweet Sue |
12.24.04 - 7:03 pm | #
Do you have to celebrate x-mas for the animals to talk?
nah, it's a general dispensation.
if they got sumpthin to tell ya, they will...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 7:03 pm | #
Do you have to celebrate x-mas for the animals to talk?
nah, it's a general dispensation.
if they got sumpthin to tell ya, they will...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 7:03 pm | #
Wasn't there an article the other day when the soldier denied the question being planted by the media?
oldwhitelady
Yeah, there was...and he did....and that fucker Rumsfeld should have his fucking knees cracked, by pros, with hickory bats...none of this aluminum stuff: solid hickory! what a slime...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 7:06 pm | #
Wasn't there an article the other day when the soldier denied the question being planted by the media?
oldwhitelady
Yeah, there was...and he did....and that fucker Rumsfeld should have his fucking knees cracked, by pros, with hickory bats...none of this aluminum stuff: solid hickory! what a slime...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
12.24.04 - 7:06 pm | #
Glowgirl, no probably not. But I've to see that happen anyway.
"greedy sanctimonious bigots will not recognise that picture if you engraved it upside down on their retinas."
Glowgirl, no probably not. But I've to see that happen anyway.
"greedy sanctimonious bigots will not recognise that picture if you engraved it upside down on their retinas."
TOW LOL, right on. I might also suggest that WGG is right about the proper administration of Hickory, though I might also suggest Ash as an appropriate alternative.
Of course one of Bonds' Maple bats would do in a pinch.
glowgirl the APKA kent |
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12.24.04 - 7:14 pm | #
TOW LOL, right on. I might also suggest that WGG is right about the proper administration of Hickory, though I might also suggest Ash as an appropriate alternative.
Of course one of Bonds' Maple bats would do in a pinch.
glowgirl the APKA kent |
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12.24.04 - 7:14 pm | #
I had to clean the catbox...just in case the cats do talk tonight. They scold me well enough as it is.
weblackey |
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12.24.04 - 7:26 pm | #
I had to clean the catbox...just in case the cats do talk tonight. They scold me well enough as it is.
weblackey |
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12.24.04 - 7:26 pm | #
When you think about it, that's not really a lot to pay for a screw-up this monumental. It's really just pennies per pound.
brucds |
12.24.04 - 8:09 pm | #
When you think about it, that's not really a lot to pay for a screw-up this monumental. It's really just pennies per pound.
brucds |
12.24.04 - 8:09 pm | #
"i was against the war from the beginning, i'm against the war currently, i'll be against the war for the next 8? 10? years....(i dunno)....
....BUT...
.....i do want you to know that, even though i was against the war, i *do* support our white troops.
i'm kidding, i'm kidding; i'm not a republican!!!!"
-david cross, ITS NOT FUNNY
n69n |
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12.24.04 - 8:10 pm | #
"i was against the war from the beginning, i'm against the war currently, i'll be against the war for the next 8? 10? years....(i dunno)....
....BUT...
.....i do want you to know that, even though i was against the war, i *do* support our white troops.
i'm kidding, i'm kidding; i'm not a republican!!!!"
-david cross, ITS NOT FUNNY
n69n |
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12.24.04 - 8:10 pm | #
Quit singing those stupid Christmas carols and kick this Bush guy's ass as a birthday present for your's truly. I'm not kidding, 'cuz I'm The Baby Jesus, dammit.
The Baby Jesus |
12.24.04 - 8:12 pm | #
Quit singing those stupid Christmas carols and kick this Bush guy's ass as a birthday present for your's truly. I'm not kidding, 'cuz I'm The Baby Jesus, dammit.
The Baby Jesus |
12.24.04 - 8:12 pm | #
Mo Money....to piss away.
Terry C |
12.24.04 - 9:41 pm | #
Mo Money....to piss away.
Terry C |
12.24.04 - 9:41 pm | #
The day before the Marines were killed at the mess tent, a local National Guardsman called to active duty came into the office. He and his unit are going to be deployed to Iraq in January. When I asked him where he would be, he was all cute "I know but I can't tell." Which is fine, but it isn't like I have the cell phone number of a local insurgent commander. Tell's me it isn't Baghdad, so it's going to be cool. I tell him I know a kid with one of the paratrooper divisions who spent the 10 months after the war in Mosul and the Iraqi/Iranian border training border guards. Told the local NG, when the kid left Mosul, everything was fine. Now look at it. Keep your head down, I said.
His response. "It'll be interesting what happens with the elections."
I suppose if I was in his shoes, I hang my hat on the same pipedream.
stencil |
12.24.04 - 9:54 pm | #
The day before the Marines were killed at the mess tent, a local National Guardsman called to active duty came into the office. He and his unit are going to be deployed to Iraq in January. When I asked him where he would be, he was all cute "I know but I can't tell." Which is fine, but it isn't like I have the cell phone number of a local insurgent commander. Tell's me it isn't Baghdad, so it's going to be cool. I tell him I know a kid with one of the paratrooper divisions who spent the 10 months after the war in Mosul and the Iraqi/Iranian border training border guards. Told the local NG, when the kid left Mosul, everything was fine. Now look at it. Keep your head down, I said.
His response. "It'll be interesting what happens with the elections."
I suppose if I was in his shoes, I hang my hat on the same pipedream.
stencil |
12.24.04 - 9:54 pm | #
But wait, I thought the war was gonna pay for itself. Wolfy said it would.
So, has he admitted he made a mistake?
Loganpoppy |
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12.24.04 - 10:58 pm | #
But wait, I thought the war was gonna pay for itself. Wolfy said it would.
So, has he admitted he made a mistake?
Loganpoppy |
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12.24.04 - 10:58 pm | #
I can't wait until we give that war an additional $300 billion.
Plus, let's throw in another $50 billion for missile defense.
And, while we're at it, why don't we just pass a law that make Halliburton the automatic recipient of at least 1% of ever dollar paid into the Federal Treasury by taxpayers?
I'm game for these things.
How about you folks?
Jeremiah Elias |
12.25.04 - 1:38 am | #
This is SO cool.
I can't wait until we give that war an additional $300 billion.
Plus, let's throw in another $50 billion for missile defense.
And, while we're at it, why don't we just pass a law that make Halliburton the automatic recipient of at least 1% of ever dollar paid into the Federal Treasury by taxpayers?
I'm game for these things.
How about you folks?
Jeremiah Elias |
12.25.04 - 1:38 am | #
Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
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All hail President Dog Shit!!!
Jeremiah Elias |
12.25.04 - 1:39 am | #
Oh yeah, I almost forgot:
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All hail President Dog Shit!!!
Jeremiah Elias |
12.25.04 - 1:39 am | #
oldwhitelady -
Yes, there was considerable hay trying to be made by the neocons over the fact that the soldier had been coached in his question by a reporter. However, that still begs the question of if it was all just a librul plot, why did the entire tent erupt in cheers when the question was asked.
JC from NC |
12.25.04 - 5:25 am | #
oldwhitelady -
Yes, there was considerable hay trying to be made by the neocons over the fact that the soldier had been coached in his question by a reporter. However, that still begs the question of if it was all just a librul plot, why did the entire tent erupt in cheers when the question was asked.
JC from NC |
12.25.04 - 5:25 am | #
Behold the price of "Chimpy War!"
Born in lies and deceits
Executed on the cheap
Botched in planning
Bollixed at Abu Ghraib
Bungled at Najaf, with victory hopes
BLOWN at Fallujah.
When will we wake up and demand a reckoning for the incredible failures of this administration's policies, and for the savagry of this military adventurism....an adventurism that Churchill spoke of in another time, and accurately called "Foul Babboonery." Timely I would say considering the stupidity of "Chimpy War."
Until the nation wakes up from it's delerium the killing machine will continue to swallow up so many more lives both the dead and the wounded who live on maimed and horribly scarred for life.
It was all a bright shining lie. Worse than Vietnam.
boilerman10 |
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12.25.04 - 7:47 am | #
Behold the price of "Chimpy War!"
Born in lies and deceits
Executed on the cheap
Botched in planning
Bollixed at Abu Ghraib
Bungled at Najaf, with victory hopes
BLOWN at Fallujah.
When will we wake up and demand a reckoning for the incredible failures of this administration's policies, and for the savagry of this military adventurism....an adventurism that Churchill spoke of in another time, and accurately called "Foul Babboonery." Timely I would say considering the stupidity of "Chimpy War."
Until the nation wakes up from it's delerium the killing machine will continue to swallow up so many more lives both the dead and the wounded who live on maimed and horribly scarred for life.
It was all a bright shining lie. Worse than Vietnam.
boilerman10 |
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12.25.04 - 7:47 am | #
Keep this up for the 10 yrs. the neocons are talking about, and pretty soon you're talking real money!
Bob H |
12.25.04 - 9:41 am | #
Keep this up for the 10 yrs. the neocons are talking about, and pretty soon you're talking real money!
Bob H |
12.25.04 - 9:41 am | #
And in the meantime, the VA is going to get hammered!
I saw the FY 2005 budget distribution for a network of veteran's hospitals last week and it is basically flatlined. In addition to the increased demand for services by Iraqi war veterans, the VA has to contend with mandated pay raises and medical inflation. Rationing of care to higher priority vets, closing clinics, converting needed capital funds for operations, and employee furloughs are all on the way.
Hope the veterans and VA employees who voted for W. are understanding...
lostbui |
12.25.04 - 1:38 pm | #
And in the meantime, the VA is going to get hammered!
I saw the FY 2005 budget distribution for a network of veteran's hospitals last week and it is basically flatlined. In addition to the increased demand for services by Iraqi war veterans, the VA has to contend with mandated pay raises and medical inflation. Rationing of care to higher priority vets, closing clinics, converting needed capital funds for operations, and employee furloughs are all on the way.
Hope the veterans and VA employees who voted for W. are understanding...
lostbui |
12.25.04 - 1:38 pm | #
Wonder how long before swing voters get it.
As I have said before, the second term is a bitch even for the smart presidents. With Bush, its already a nightmare.
Blues can just sit back and watch, like watching the ol hound dog chasing skunks.
Mike from sd |
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12.25.04 - 3:29 pm | #
Wonder how long before swing voters get it.
As I have said before, the second term is a bitch even for the smart presidents. With Bush, its already a nightmare.
Blues can just sit back and watch, like watching the ol hound dog chasing skunks.
Mike from sd |
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12.25.04 - 3:29 pm | #
did anyone notice this little gem in the 80 billion dollar news dump?
"It would make it the largest supplemental appropriation ... a very substantial amount that would cover not only defence but also some of the foreign assistance," said Kolbe, who travelled to Iraq with four other Congressmen.
coalition of the willing, my ass.....we're renting the fuckers.....
roxtar |
12.25.04 - 10:05 pm | #
did anyone notice this little gem in the 80 billion dollar news dump?
"It would make it the largest supplemental appropriation ... a very substantial amount that would cover not only defence but also some of the foreign assistance," said Kolbe, who travelled to Iraq with four other Congressmen.
coalition of the willing, my ass.....we're renting the fuckers.....
roxtar |
12.25.04 - 10:05 pm | #
How 'bout congress makes a deal.
We'll give you the 80 billion if you shitcan Rumsfeld.
Somebody should demonstrate what this war is costing us. What is the yearly price tag - something like $100 billion a year?
Almost everybody says we will be there at least 10 years.
I found myself thinking as the families connected over the CNN and FOXNews airwaves "Soldier, I wish you best health and safety but you ain't doing shit for me or my country."
AndrewBB |
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12.26.04 - 5:08 pm | #
Surprised no one finished the quote, yet.
Mo' money mo' problems.
I found myself thinking as the families connected over the CNN and FOXNews airwaves "Soldier, I wish you best health and safety but you ain't doing shit for me or my country."
AndrewBB |
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