I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
how can this be?
how can this be?
I hear that some are questioning how
liberal a second amendment Iraq
should have in Iraq as well.
Oh... First (probably last too)
I hear that some are questioning how
liberal a second amendment Iraq
should have in Iraq as well.
Oh... First (probably last too)
THRID!
THRID!
mmmmmbursting George Will head blood vesselsmmmmmmm
mmmmmbursting George Will head blood vesselsmmmmmmm
Oh, please. Why doesn't BushCo. just PICK the people they want in power? The amount of meddling in this election is already tantamount to vote-fixing.
Oh, please. Why doesn't BushCo. just PICK the people they want in power? The amount of meddling in this election is already tantamount to vote-fixing.
What them 'raqis need is one of them ee-lect-o-ral colleges. Yep.
And Katherine Harris to run the elections...
What them 'raqis need is one of them ee-lect-o-ral colleges. Yep.
And Katherine Harris to run the elections...
Iraq is a great experiment: if this "democracy" thing takes hold over there, it might become a shining beacon for those of us in the Theocratic States of America.
Iraq is a great experiment: if this "democracy" thing takes hold over there, it might become a shining beacon for those of us in the Theocratic States of America.
Harumph. Set-asides. Quotas. Affirmative action. Where did they get these people? UMich Law School?
Harumph. Set-asides. Quotas. Affirmative action. Where did they get these people? UMich Law School?
And, of course, which makes our present position especially gauling is that these fuckwads fully understand the concept of a tyranny by the majority, and are still willing ram their agenda down the throats of at leat 49% of the population here.
And, of course, which makes our present position especially gauling is that these fuckwads fully understand the concept of a tyranny by the majority, and are still willing ram their agenda down the throats of at leat 49% of the population here.
Guaranteeing a certain number of positions in government for certain ethnic groups is not without precedent, though. Lebanon, for example, has a power-sharing arrangement among its main sectarian groups.
I can't believe we've reached the point where we're looking at Lebanon as a model for Iraq. There are a few reasons for which Lebanon might not be the best model. Then again, I do think that a comparison between the two is very fruitful. Confessionalism did not work in Lebanon largely because the Christians (and particularly my kinsmen the Maronites) attempted to maintain power, largely through undemocratic means ("locking" the distribution of power in despite the shifting demographics of the country, deliberately neglecting censuses for the same reasons). If the Iraqi consitution provided checks and balances against these kinds of abuses, confessionalism might work.
Confessionlism is on its way out in Lebanon, and would probably have been abandoned long ago if not for the shaky political system in that country - a shaky political system that owes much to the deficiencies of confessionalism. Federalism is much more appropriate, IMHO.
Guaranteeing a certain number of positions in government for certain ethnic groups is not without precedent, though. Lebanon, for example, has a power-sharing arrangement among its main sectarian groups.
I can't believe we've reached the point where we're looking at Lebanon as a model for Iraq. There are a few reasons for which Lebanon might not be the best model. Then again, I do think that a comparison between the two is very fruitful. Confessionalism did not work in Lebanon largely because the Christians (and particularly my kinsmen the Maronites) attempted to maintain power, largely through undemocratic means ("locking" the distribution of power in despite the shifting demographics of the country, deliberately neglecting censuses for the same reasons). If the Iraqi consitution provided checks and balances against these kinds of abuses, confessionalism might work.
Confessionlism is on its way out in Lebanon, and would probably have been abandoned long ago if not for the shaky political system in that country - a shaky political system that owes much to the deficiencies of confessionalism. Federalism is much more appropriate, IMHO.
"Imagine the bursting blood vessels on George Will's forehead if someone proposed instituting proportional racial representation, or even suggested interesting ideas to encourage more minority representation in government..."
That's actually not true. The Republican Party has, in the last decade or so, been a propoenent of 'majority minority districts'. Why? Because if enough democratic-leaning minority voters are grouped together in a district, that tends to make safe Republican districts elsewhere in the area.
"Imagine the bursting blood vessels on George Will's forehead if someone proposed instituting proportional racial representation, or even suggested interesting ideas to encourage more minority representation in government..."
That's actually not true. The Republican Party has, in the last decade or so, been a propoenent of 'majority minority districts'. Why? Because if enough democratic-leaning minority voters are grouped together in a district, that tends to make safe Republican districts elsewhere in the area.
on dec 25, what ever happened to merry xmas, or just happy holidays..
on dec 25, what ever happened to merry xmas, or just happy holidays..
Hey, remember that one of the goals of this Project in Democracy was to produce an Arabic Middle Eastern state that would be friendly to Israel.
If we're going to placate the Sunnis with proportional representation, we also need to make sure that pro-Israelis have a strong say in the new Iraqi government, even if they have to be imported or invented.
It would be only fair.
(An insane idea, to be sure. But I bet we could get some loonball Fighting Keyboarder to support it & make it a Crusade. After all, if you don't support insane plans for Middle Eastern nation building, you hate the Baby Jesus--and on His birthday, too!)
Hey, remember that one of the goals of this Project in Democracy was to produce an Arabic Middle Eastern state that would be friendly to Israel.
If we're going to placate the Sunnis with proportional representation, we also need to make sure that pro-Israelis have a strong say in the new Iraqi government, even if they have to be imported or invented.
It would be only fair.
(An insane idea, to be sure. But I bet we could get some loonball Fighting Keyboarder to support it & make it a Crusade. After all, if you don't support insane plans for Middle Eastern nation building, you hate the Baby Jesus--and on His birthday, too!)
Merry Christmas to all
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Proportional representation is also practised in India, the world's largest democracy. About 120 seats (of 545, I think) in India's parliament are reserved for weaker social sections (those who were considered untouchable). Over the last few years, there have been proposals to allot a fixed fraction of parliamentary seats to women, but (surprise, surprise) the
move has not yet gained enough parliamentary votes to be legislated.
Merry Christmas to all
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Proportional representation is also practised in India, the world's largest democracy. About 120 seats (of 545, I think) in India's parliament are reserved for weaker social sections (those who were considered untouchable). Over the last few years, there have been proposals to allot a fixed fraction of parliamentary seats to women, but (surprise, surprise) the
move has not yet gained enough parliamentary votes to be legislated.
Just because this bullshit goes on in America doesn't mean it should spill over into Iraq. Iraqis deserve better. So do we. Throw the bums out. Get rid of BushCo. Overthrow the BFEE.
Just because this bullshit goes on in America doesn't mean it should spill over into Iraq. Iraqis deserve better. So do we. Throw the bums out. Get rid of BushCo. Overthrow the BFEE.
This time, history is written by the losers:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...-
2004Dec24.html
This time, history is written by the losers:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp...-
2004Dec24.html
Shiite politicians are willing to tell us anything we want to here to get to the elections because they know that they're going to win them. After that all bets are off cause then we'll have what is basically a Shiite superpower in the Gulf with Iraq and Iran. We could well end up losing both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia before this is over if they start to look outside they're respective countries for new converts and resources.
Shiite politicians are willing to tell us anything we want to here to get to the elections because they know that they're going to win them. After that all bets are off cause then we'll have what is basically a Shiite superpower in the Gulf with Iraq and Iran. We could well end up losing both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia before this is over if they start to look outside they're respective countries for new converts and resources.
Rural whites only ever got power by blowing shit up, same as the Sunnis, same will be true of other US minorities.
Rural whites only ever got power by blowing shit up, same as the Sunnis, same will be true of other US minorities.
I wonder if this Iraqi government will ever resemble anything close to a democratic government. What is the goal of this Bush administration? I know they wanted the oil and they needed to satisfy their military-industrial complex. But do they really care about the government or are they just doing this to put on a show that they care?
I wonder if this Iraqi government will ever resemble anything close to a democratic government. What is the goal of this Bush administration? I know they wanted the oil and they needed to satisfy their military-industrial complex. But do they really care about the government or are they just doing this to put on a show that they care?
Rural whites only ever got power by blowing shit up, same as the Sunnis, same will be true of other US minorities.
What the hell is the meaning of this? Rural whites pretended to power by becoming the bitches of wealthy whites. Sunnis had power by taking over the fucking country. And "same will be true of other US minorities"?! B'nai Brith gonna get yo mama!
Rural whites only ever got power by blowing shit up, same as the Sunnis, same will be true of other US minorities.
What the hell is the meaning of this? Rural whites pretended to power by becoming the bitches of wealthy whites. Sunnis had power by taking over the fucking country. And "same will be true of other US minorities"?! B'nai Brith gonna get yo mama!
I just don't know how to satisfy people. For goodness sakes, the last time anybody checked, the Mesopotamians had their hearts set on a monarchy or at the very least, a US Mandate. (The King-Crane Commission Report, August 28, 1919:
Report of [the] American section of Inter-allied Commission of mandates in Turkey. An official United States government report by the Inter-allied Commission on Mandates in Turkey.)
American Section
"4. ...we recommend that the Government of Mesopotamia, in harmony with the apparent desires of its people, be a Constitutional Monarchy, such as is proposed for Syria; and that the people of Mesopotamia be given opportunity to indicate their choice of Monarch, the choice to be reviewed and confirmed by the League of Nations. It may be fairly assumed that the 1,278 petitions from Syrians for the independence of Mesopotamia-68.5 per cent of the total number received-reflects the feeling in Mesopotamia itself; and such contact as we have been able to secure with Mesopotamians confirms the assumption, and leads to the belief that the program, presented at Aleppo by representative Mesopotamians... would be generally supported by the Mesopotamian people....
...Now it seems so unlikely that America could or would take a mandate for Mesopotamia, in addition to the possible consideration of Syria and Asia Minor, that the Commissioners recommend that the Peace Conference assign the mandate for Mesopotamia to Great Britain: because of the general reasons already given for recommending her as mandatary in Syria if America does not go in there, because she is probably best of all fitted for the particular task involved, in view of her long relations with the Arabs; in recognition of the sacrifices made by her in delivering Mesopotamia from the Turks,....
These reasons make it probable that the largest interests of the people of Mesopotamia as a whole will be best served by a British Mandate, in spite of the fact that from the point of view of world-interests, in the prevention of jealousy, suspicion, and fear of domination by a single Power, it were better for both Britain and the world that no further territory anywhere be added to the British Empire. A British mandate however, will have the decided advantage of tending to promote economic and educational unity throughout Mesopotamia and Syria whether Syria be under Great Britain or America-and so will reflect more fully than ever before, the close relations in language, customs, and trade between these parts of the former Turkish Empire.
In a country so rich as Mesopotamia in agricultural possibilities, in oil, and in other resources, with the best intentions there will inevitably be danger of exploitation and monopolistic control by the Mandatary Power, through making British interests supreme, and especially through large Indian immigration. This danger will need increasingly and most honestly to be guarded against. The Mesopotamians feel ve
I just don't know how to satisfy people. For goodness sakes, the last time anybody checked, the Mesopotamians had their hearts set on a monarchy or at the very least, a US Mandate. (The King-Crane Commission Report, August 28, 1919:
Report of [the] American section of Inter-allied Commission of mandates in Turkey. An official United States government report by the Inter-allied Commission on Mandates in Turkey.)
American Section
"4. ...we recommend that the Government of Mesopotamia, in harmony with the apparent desires of its people, be a Constitutional Monarchy, such as is proposed for Syria; and that the people of Mesopotamia be given opportunity to indicate their choice of Monarch, the choice to be reviewed and confirmed by the League of Nations. It may be fairly assumed that the 1,278 petitions from Syrians for the independence of Mesopotamia-68.5 per cent of the total number received-reflects the feeling in Mesopotamia itself; and such contact as we have been able to secure with Mesopotamians confirms the assumption, and leads to the belief that the program, presented at Aleppo by representative Mesopotamians... would be generally supported by the Mesopotamian people....
...Now it seems so unlikely that America could or would take a mandate for Mesopotamia, in addition to the possible consideration of Syria and Asia Minor, that the Commissioners recommend that the Peace Conference assign the mandate for Mesopotamia to Great Britain: because of the general reasons already given for recommending her as mandatary in Syria if America does not go in there, because she is probably best of all fitted for the particular task involved, in view of her long relations with the Arabs; in recognition of the sacrifices made by her in delivering Mesopotamia from the Turks,....
These reasons make it probable that the largest interests of the people of Mesopotamia as a whole will be best served by a British Mandate, in spite of the fact that from the point of view of world-interests, in the prevention of jealousy, suspicion, and fear of domination by a single Power, it were better for both Britain and the world that no further territory anywhere be added to the British Empire. A British mandate however, will have the decided advantage of tending to promote economic and educational unity throughout Mesopotamia and Syria whether Syria be under Great Britain or America-and so will reflect more fully than ever before, the close relations in language, customs, and trade between these parts of the former Turkish Empire.
In a country so rich as Mesopotamia in agricultural possibilities, in oil, and in other resources, with the best intentions there will inevitably be danger of exploitation and monopolistic control by the Mandatary Power, through making British interests supreme, and especially through large Indian immigration. This danger will need increasingly and most honestly to be guarded against. The Mesopotamians feel ve
Well, this makes perfect sense.
They'll have to blame their potential failures on somebody, won't they?
Well, this makes perfect sense.
They'll have to blame their potential failures on somebody, won't they?
Is Boronx referring to the Militia thing? (we had thought he was referring to church bombings at first.)
Is Boronx referring to the Militia thing? (we had thought he was referring to church bombings at first.)
The Theocratic Provinces of Iraq with our troops being blown to bit by the dozens each week.
This is some really stupid shit.
The Theocratic Provinces of Iraq with our troops being blown to bit by the dozens each week.
This is some really stupid shit.
...The Mesopotamians feel very strongly the menace particularly of Indian immigration, even though that immigration should be confined to Moslems. They dread the admixture of another people of entirely different race and customs, as threatening their Arabic civilization. "
...The Mesopotamians feel very strongly the menace particularly of Indian immigration, even though that immigration should be confined to Moslems. They dread the admixture of another people of entirely different race and customs, as threatening their Arabic civilization. "
"What is the goal of this Bush administration?"
Whatever their goal is, you can bet the Shiites have one that is quite different, no matter how much they and the talking heads on T.V. assure otherwise.
"What is the goal of this Bush administration?"
Whatever their goal is, you can bet the Shiites have one that is quite different, no matter how much they and the talking heads on T.V. assure otherwise.
Of course the notion that Iraq is a Sovereign country with the right to govern itself seems to be a vanishing notion.
Of course the notion that Iraq is a Sovereign country with the right to govern itself seems to be a vanishing notion.
OT, but it seems that Argentina's middle finger to the IMF has paid off:
But three years after Argentina declared a record debt default of more than $100 billion, the largest in history, the apocalypse has not arrived. Instead, the economy has grown by 8 percent for two consecutive years, exports have zoomed, the currency is stable, investors are gradually returning and unemployment has eased from record highs - all without a debt settlement or the standard measures required by the International Monetary Fund for its approval.
OT, but it seems that Argentina's middle finger to the IMF has paid off:
But three years after Argentina declared a record debt default of more than $100 billion, the largest in history, the apocalypse has not arrived. Instead, the economy has grown by 8 percent for two consecutive years, exports have zoomed, the currency is stable, investors are gradually returning and unemployment has eased from record highs - all without a debt settlement or the standard measures required by the International Monetary Fund for its approval.
Can't we just send our electronic voting machines over there? The repugs won't need them for almost two years.
Can't we just send our electronic voting machines over there? The repugs won't need them for almost two years.
Indian immigration apparently scares everybody. I know an Indian gay guy and he is annoying as hell. They tend to have very thin and sharp dicks.
I'm not being prejudiced but just goofing around.
Indian immigration apparently scares everybody. I know an Indian gay guy and he is annoying as hell. They tend to have very thin and sharp dicks.
I'm not being prejudiced but just goofing around.
St. Vitus - yes, every military action now has its own historian involved - either regular or reserve (an old friend governs the reserve historians, giving new meaning to the 101 Marching Keyboarders). That poor Major however Regular he may be - well, the likelihood of his ever seeing his colonelcy is pretty slim - certainly I've known of at least one other in a similar position who was nailed for being as truthful. I'd be real doubtful if that West Point appointment holds up either. Apparently he's been delivering that paper within the TRADOC history community, so....
St. Vitus - yes, every military action now has its own historian involved - either regular or reserve (an old friend governs the reserve historians, giving new meaning to the 101 Marching Keyboarders). That poor Major however Regular he may be - well, the likelihood of his ever seeing his colonelcy is pretty slim - certainly I've known of at least one other in a similar position who was nailed for being as truthful. I'd be real doubtful if that West Point appointment holds up either. Apparently he's been delivering that paper within the TRADOC history community, so....
C'mon, I was goofing around. I've had sex with every ethnic group because I'm curious. He was very sensual.
C'mon, I was goofing around. I've had sex with every ethnic group because I'm curious. He was very sensual.
Did you guys know there is acutallyy such a town named Popcornopolis and they actually have cruncholgists there who measure the popcorn's crunchiness?
Did you guys know there is acutallyy such a town named Popcornopolis and they actually have cruncholgists there who measure the popcorn's crunchiness?
I'm so misunderstood....
I'm so misunderstood....
Come out, come out wherever you are. I'll go away since nobody likes me and I'm alone on Christmas during the holidays with only String.
Come out, come out wherever you are. I'll go away since nobody likes me and I'm alone on Christmas during the holidays with only String.
bye
bye
Ok, let's all take a deep breath and admit that this is (given the parameters) a good move by the Bush regime. Of course its like drop of fine wine in a bucket of slop, but they seem to have realized the differences between Sunnis and Shiites.
Hooray.
Ok, let's all take a deep breath and admit that this is (given the parameters) a good move by the Bush regime. Of course its like drop of fine wine in a bucket of slop, but they seem to have realized the differences between Sunnis and Shiites.
Hooray.
Weevil -
Right you are, but the hypocrisy will be lost in the white noise of the punditry.
Wow. They discovered a novel idea: a historically underrepresented minority getting a mandated seat at the table over the dead bodies of the bloviating gasbags of the majority.
Jesus. Hard to square that with "affirmative access".
Weevil -
Right you are, but the hypocrisy will be lost in the white noise of the punditry.
Wow. They discovered a novel idea: a historically underrepresented minority getting a mandated seat at the table over the dead bodies of the bloviating gasbags of the majority.
Jesus. Hard to square that with "affirmative access".
ha ha Faked you all out. I'm back.
ha ha Faked you all out. I'm back.
OT, but it seems that Argentina's middle finger to the IMF has paid off
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 2:43 pm | #
What wonders can occur when you reject imperialism.
OT, but it seems that Argentina's middle finger to the IMF has paid off
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 2:43 pm | #
What wonders can occur when you reject imperialism.
Oh, please. Why doesn't BushCo. just PICK the people they want in power?
BushCo hasn't?
Allawi is running. Does anybody really believe that he will lose?
Oh, please. Why doesn't BushCo. just PICK the people they want in power?
BushCo hasn't?
Allawi is running. Does anybody really believe that he will lose?
I really hate the penguins are gay too narative.
I really hate the penguins are gay too narative.
I cringe everytime I hear penguins are gay too.
I cringe everytime I hear penguins are gay too.
Allawi is running. Does anybody really believe that he will lose?
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Did I read that Chalabi is also going to be running for some sort of office there, too, or did I just imagine it? It was in the last couple weeks I read something to that effect.
Allawi is running. Does anybody really believe that he will lose?
def
Did I read that Chalabi is also going to be running for some sort of office there, too, or did I just imagine it? It was in the last couple weeks I read something to that effect.
1) I'd like to stop quoting 'admin officials'. Their testimony is furiously-spun hearsay, at best, and the practice of quoting them only serves to confuse the American public more. And we get the indirect effect of *not* getting straight answers from the Administration. They feel no pressure to answer questions from the press in an honest manner because the pressure valve has been relieved by sicking these anonymous officials on the public. If we don't get an official position statement from the government, it didn't happen, period. That's my 2 cents, anyways. Of course, if the media played their role as government watchdog they would question such questionable statements.
2) Shorter Administration:
We're not going to change the numbers, we're just going to change the numbers.
It's like, we're not going to kick them out of Fallujah, we're just going to firebomb the city. Great.
OT: Listening to the Shaq/Kobe pre-game hype. It's like a Dynasty reset. Funny. Kobe was clapping like a madman during Shaq intro - dude be scared. Bout sh*tted in his pants.
And on Christmas Day's 6 o'clock news, see what went down on the basketball court with Kobe and Shaq! Also, Rumsfeld caught groping Iraqi detainee on recent trip to Iraq. See you at 6.
1) I'd like to stop quoting 'admin officials'. Their testimony is furiously-spun hearsay, at best, and the practice of quoting them only serves to confuse the American public more. And we get the indirect effect of *not* getting straight answers from the Administration. They feel no pressure to answer questions from the press in an honest manner because the pressure valve has been relieved by sicking these anonymous officials on the public. If we don't get an official position statement from the government, it didn't happen, period. That's my 2 cents, anyways. Of course, if the media played their role as government watchdog they would question such questionable statements.
2) Shorter Administration:
We're not going to change the numbers, we're just going to change the numbers.
It's like, we're not going to kick them out of Fallujah, we're just going to firebomb the city. Great.
OT: Listening to the Shaq/Kobe pre-game hype. It's like a Dynasty reset. Funny. Kobe was clapping like a madman during Shaq intro - dude be scared. Bout sh*tted in his pants.
And on Christmas Day's 6 o'clock news, see what went down on the basketball court with Kobe and Shaq! Also, Rumsfeld caught groping Iraqi detainee on recent trip to Iraq. See you at 6.
Hi Hi Hi, Everybody!
Oh, and ΤΏΤ...roll up aluminum into balls for you to toss to String to play with. Also, empty toilet paper rolls are great fun too!
Hi Hi Hi, Everybody!
Oh, and ΤΏΤ...roll up aluminum into balls for you to toss to String to play with. Also, empty toilet paper rolls are great fun too!
Bye, Everybody!
Bye, Everybody!
Everybody must be full of turkey and dressing and all lying around digesting full as a tick flipping the remote control and unable to post or something. My old mom called me wanting me to come over. She's outdid herself again apparently but I'm almost at the point of a nervous breakdown and I just can't deal with it and I love her so much. I just want to be alone. Is that selfish of me?
Everybody must be full of turkey and dressing and all lying around digesting full as a tick flipping the remote control and unable to post or something. My old mom called me wanting me to come over. She's outdid herself again apparently but I'm almost at the point of a nervous breakdown and I just can't deal with it and I love her so much. I just want to be alone. Is that selfish of me?
This is consistent with previous moves (cancellation of odious debt, various "socialist" programs, etc) and a solid part of the pattern wherein they tried total privatization and cronyism, were forced to admit it is a fantasy, and are doing things in a hybrid of cronyism and real practical steps, but also of the pattern of hypocrisy: for one after another, each of the standard rightist positions finds an exceptrion in Iraq, so they can hurry up and maske it look something other than failure. Just like once economic sanctions belonged all over the world, until you get to South Africa, which had to be spared them because after all everyone knows economic sanctions don't work.
This is consistent with previous moves (cancellation of odious debt, various "socialist" programs, etc) and a solid part of the pattern wherein they tried total privatization and cronyism, were forced to admit it is a fantasy, and are doing things in a hybrid of cronyism and real practical steps, but also of the pattern of hypocrisy: for one after another, each of the standard rightist positions finds an exceptrion in Iraq, so they can hurry up and maske it look something other than failure. Just like once economic sanctions belonged all over the world, until you get to South Africa, which had to be spared them because after all everyone knows economic sanctions don't work.
Dr. St. Nick and ΤΏΤ -
Also fun are the artificial sweetener packets folded up, after the sweetener has been used.
I gave my kitties a fake mouse this morning - I just now found it - It's nastily wet with cat spit all over it and the tail's been chewed off.
Dr. St. Nick and ΤΏΤ -
Also fun are the artificial sweetener packets folded up, after the sweetener has been used.
I gave my kitties a fake mouse this morning - I just now found it - It's nastily wet with cat spit all over it and the tail's been chewed off.
sharp?
sharp?
Yeah, sharp or rather, smart dicks.
Yeah, sharp or rather, smart dicks.
ΤΏΤ
Selfish? I don't really think so, but does she have a great meal all ready? If so, I'm on my way
I had a cookie this morning with coffee and now having some cashews and peanuts. I really should cook something.
ΤΏΤ
Selfish? I don't really think so, but does she have a great meal all ready? If so, I'm on my way I had a cookie this morning with coffee and now having some cashews and peanuts. I really should cook something.
Meanwhile, at 'Little Green Footballs', cut-n-paste guy Charles Squeaky Johnson, has this interesting Xmas day post:
"Morlocks Roasting on an Open Fire".
"Morlocks", if you didn't know, are non-right wingers. Squeaky here demonstrates his utter inability to come up with any thought that isn't either cheering on war-activites or bashing the 'left', (ie anyone not right-wing). Since 99% of Johnson's posts are cut-n-paste articles, often the whole thing, it's interesting how he makes his money: reprinting other peoples work for whatever he can rake in from his site. I have a strong suspicion that LGF is funded by some well-heeled Far Right institutions, who could drop (say) $5K/Month to keep the Pro-War, Pro-Likud, Pro-Bush set pumped up with anti-arab and anti-muslim propaganda. Anyway, his latest post, "Morlocks" just demonstrates how utterly shallow Squeaky is, and how fast he dances to keep his regular blood-thirsty crew busy hating.
Meanwhile, at 'Little Green Footballs', cut-n-paste guy Charles Squeaky Johnson, has this interesting Xmas day post:
"Morlocks Roasting on an Open Fire".
"Morlocks", if you didn't know, are non-right wingers. Squeaky here demonstrates his utter inability to come up with any thought that isn't either cheering on war-activites or bashing the 'left', (ie anyone not right-wing). Since 99% of Johnson's posts are cut-n-paste articles, often the whole thing, it's interesting how he makes his money: reprinting other peoples work for whatever he can rake in from his site. I have a strong suspicion that LGF is funded by some well-heeled Far Right institutions, who could drop (say) $5K/Month to keep the Pro-War, Pro-Likud, Pro-Bush set pumped up with anti-arab and anti-muslim propaganda. Anyway, his latest post, "Morlocks" just demonstrates how utterly shallow Squeaky is, and how fast he dances to keep his regular blood-thirsty crew busy hating.
Give her the pleasure of your company, incog, if only for a bit. You'll both be better for the visit.
Give her the pleasure of your company, incog, if only for a bit. You'll both be better for the visit.
Selfish? I don't really think so, but does she have a great meal all ready? If so, I'm on my way I had a cookie this morning with coffee and now having some cashews and peanuts. I really should cook something.
oldwhitelady
Yeah, she just totally outdoes herself during the holidays, probably with a big ham and cornbread dressing. She sends it all home with me because I'm the only family member who's single and you can't eat it all. Nobody can. But I've just been really nervous lately and don't want to deal with family functions. I'm comfortable with going to work later and being left alone.
Selfish? I don't really think so, but does she have a great meal all ready? If so, I'm on my way I had a cookie this morning with coffee and now having some cashews and peanuts. I really should cook something.
oldwhitelady
Yeah, she just totally outdoes herself during the holidays, probably with a big ham and cornbread dressing. She sends it all home with me because I'm the only family member who's single and you can't eat it all. Nobody can. But I've just been really nervous lately and don't want to deal with family functions. I'm comfortable with going to work later and being left alone.
and how fast he dances to keep his regular blood-thirsty crew busy hating.
LGFwatcher | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 3:37 pm | #
Ah. Nothing like a little rightous, facist hate for a Christmas afternoon. Positively Christ-ey.
and how fast he dances to keep his regular blood-thirsty crew busy hating.
LGFwatcher | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 3:37 pm | #
Ah. Nothing like a little rightous, facist hate for a Christmas afternoon. Positively Christ-ey.
st yuri & black kei
You know what I really really want?
A baby Jesus buttplug. Would you know where I can get one? hahahahah 
st yuri & black kei
You know what I really really want?
A baby Jesus buttplug. Would you know where I can get one? hahahahah
amazing how you morlocks just spew invective towards our leaders and operate out of pure hate and spite!
amazing how you morlocks just spew invective towards our leaders and operate out of pure hate and spite!
Give her the pleasure of your company, incog, if only for a bit. You'll both be better for the visit.
Vagina Dentata
Give her the pleasure of your company, incog, if only for a bit. You'll both be better for the visit.
Vagina Dentata
Allawi is running. Does anybody really believe that he will lose?
The buffoon doesn't stand a chance. Bush is cutting and running and handing the place to the Shia and the Kurds. King Abdallah is apoplectic...about 6 million Sunni headed for Damascus and Amman.
Allawi is running. Does anybody really believe that he will lose?
The buffoon doesn't stand a chance. Bush is cutting and running and handing the place to the Shia and the Kurds. King Abdallah is apoplectic...about 6 million Sunni headed for Damascus and Amman.
Give her the pleasure of your company, incog, if only for a bit. You'll both be better for the visit.
Vagina Dentata
Are you trying to be sick or something you fucking disgusting wing nut republican Christian troll?
Give her the pleasure of your company, incog, if only for a bit. You'll both be better for the visit.
Vagina Dentata
Are you trying to be sick or something you fucking disgusting wing nut republican Christian troll?
Allawi is a real dreamboat....
Allawi is a real dreamboat....
OT but VERY IMPORTANT.
My son is giving his girlfriend a kitten (With her parent's blessing and complicity.) and he is highly upset that the thirteen week old kitten (from a shelter) is acting strangely. He wants the kitten to be a lapsitting, purring, cuddle of joy. I explained to him that cats are sort of feral animals and do what they want to do on their own terms. But since I am father and a dog lover I know not what I am talking about. The kitten is hiding everywhere and acting a little agressively. Are there any of you cat owners and lovers willing to give the boy a bit of comfort? (He thinks he has a defective kitten.)
OT but VERY IMPORTANT.
My son is giving his girlfriend a kitten (With her parent's blessing and complicity.) and he is highly upset that the thirteen week old kitten (from a shelter) is acting strangely. He wants the kitten to be a lapsitting, purring, cuddle of joy. I explained to him that cats are sort of feral animals and do what they want to do on their own terms. But since I am father and a dog lover I know not what I am talking about. The kitten is hiding everywhere and acting a little agressively. Are there any of you cat owners and lovers willing to give the boy a bit of comfort? (He thinks he has a defective kitten.)
"Morlocks", if you didn't know, are non-right wingers.
This is fascinating, because of course Wells had them as the evolutionary end of the capable, practical, ruthless proletarian feeding on the effete, helpless, lazy upper-class eloi once nature took over the imposed unnatural state of class. Again and again we come to the question of rightist ideologiy just being a simple reverse of truth.
"Morlocks", if you didn't know, are non-right wingers.
This is fascinating, because of course Wells had them as the evolutionary end of the capable, practical, ruthless proletarian feeding on the effete, helpless, lazy upper-class eloi once nature took over the imposed unnatural state of class. Again and again we come to the question of rightist ideologiy just being a simple reverse of truth.
The buffoon doesn't stand a chance. Bush is cutting and running and handing the place to the Shia and the Kurds.
Never underestimate the magical electoral powers of an ex-cia guy.
The buffoon doesn't stand a chance. Bush is cutting and running and handing the place to the Shia and the Kurds.
Never underestimate the magical electoral powers of an ex-cia guy.
DWD--all animals are the same. If you invest attention (especially from youth on) you will get an attentive pet: if you stick it outside and make it aware of a reliable food source you get a wild but well-fed thing. Patience, diligence and attention to detail are very necessary here, it's just like parenting. The boyfirend is either asking his girl to devote a lot of time to civilizing it, or volunteering to raise it himself. It is not a baby jesus butt plug.
DWD--all animals are the same. If you invest attention (especially from youth on) you will get an attentive pet: if you stick it outside and make it aware of a reliable food source you get a wild but well-fed thing. Patience, diligence and attention to detail are very necessary here, it's just like parenting. The boyfirend is either asking his girl to devote a lot of time to civilizing it, or volunteering to raise it himself. It is not a baby jesus butt plug.
DWD
Tell him the kitten needs to get used to it's surroundings, first. What I did with my wonderful Saddie was pen him up in a cat carrier and put my previously worn t-shirt in with him. He stayed in the carrier a week - Mainly for his own protection at that time, but also (the shirt) to get him to bond to me. He bonded alright!
DWD
Tell him the kitten needs to get used to it's surroundings, first. What I did with my wonderful Saddie was pen him up in a cat carrier and put my previously worn t-shirt in with him. He stayed in the carrier a week - Mainly for his own protection at that time, but also (the shirt) to get him to bond to me. He bonded alright!
amazing how you morlocks just spew invective towards our leaders and operate out of pure hate and spite!
Morlock Hunter | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 3:43 pm | #
Ohhh . . . Morlock . . .
I thought you were talking about Moloch, the ficticious satanic glam band from an episode of CHiPs.
amazing how you morlocks just spew invective towards our leaders and operate out of pure hate and spite!
Morlock Hunter | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 3:43 pm | #
Ohhh . . . Morlock . . .
I thought you were talking about Moloch, the ficticious satanic glam band from an episode of CHiPs.
Oh yeah! Europeans are SOOOOO much wiser than our imbecile Redstate Americans!!!
Morlocks also *tend* to be non-white in Squeaky's world.
If you can find me a post by Squeaky referring to Michael Moore or Paul Krugman or Rachel Corrie as a "Morlock" I'll retract that proposition.
But the terms usually refers to someone (usually brown skinned) in the Third World.
Oh yeah! Europeans are SOOOOO much wiser than our imbecile Redstate Americans!!!
Morlocks also *tend* to be non-white in Squeaky's world.
If you can find me a post by Squeaky referring to Michael Moore or Paul Krugman or Rachel Corrie as a "Morlock" I'll retract that proposition.
But the terms usually refers to someone (usually brown skinned) in the Third World.
The kitten is hiding everywhere and acting a little agressively. Are there any of you cat owners and lovers willing to give the boy a bit of comfort? (He thinks he has a defective kitten.)
Perfectly normal in my experience. A cat needs to adjust to a new environment. At first they hide in the most impossible places (under the refrigerator, for example) and are not friendly. Once ensconced in their final environment, they adjust in a week or two to other animals, people, objects, etc. At that point, of course, they own all they survey.
The kitten is hiding everywhere and acting a little agressively. Are there any of you cat owners and lovers willing to give the boy a bit of comfort? (He thinks he has a defective kitten.)
Perfectly normal in my experience. A cat needs to adjust to a new environment. At first they hide in the most impossible places (under the refrigerator, for example) and are not friendly. Once ensconced in their final environment, they adjust in a week or two to other animals, people, objects, etc. At that point, of course, they own all they survey.
Well, what, you just have to let a cat do their own thing. Art Bell said that there comes a point when you and the cat know in each other's minds you've bonded. You kids are probably too young to understand that. My cat and me aren't at that point yet but he's at my feet right now sleeping. He may get up later and lie in the sunshine up in the window he's discovered.
Well, what, you just have to let a cat do their own thing. Art Bell said that there comes a point when you and the cat know in each other's minds you've bonded. You kids are probably too young to understand that. My cat and me aren't at that point yet but he's at my feet right now sleeping. He may get up later and lie in the sunshine up in the window he's discovered.
Kittens are just shit-scared little creatures. Very lovable, but not necessarily tractable. That's how they are. Tell your son to cut the little kitty a bit o'slack and to be willing to help his lady friend acclimatize the new pet. It would be a nice "group project."
Patience is key.
Kittens are just shit-scared little creatures. Very lovable, but not necessarily tractable. That's how they are. Tell your son to cut the little kitty a bit o'slack and to be willing to help his lady friend acclimatize the new pet. It would be a nice "group project."
Patience is key.
DWD--all animals are the same. If you invest attention (especially from youth on) you will get an attentive pet:
Except for dogs. It's amazing how forgiving the typical pit bull can be of your neglect when you bring it food. It's like "you have food total stranger. OK. You're now my favorite person in the world".
DWD--all animals are the same. If you invest attention (especially from youth on) you will get an attentive pet:
Except for dogs. It's amazing how forgiving the typical pit bull can be of your neglect when you bring it food. It's like "you have food total stranger. OK. You're now my favorite person in the world".
But the terms usually refers to someone (usually brown skinned) in the Third World.
This makes more sense, because of course the Morlocks were hideous cannibalistic sub-humans, whereas tyhe eloi were beautiful (and, until recently, white).
But the terms usually refers to someone (usually brown skinned) in the Third World.
This makes more sense, because of course the Morlocks were hideous cannibalistic sub-humans, whereas tyhe eloi were beautiful (and, until recently, white).
If you want to see a Morlock go to a rural portion of a "Red State."
Don't feed them and don't get your fingers near their mouths.
If you want to see a Morlock go to a rural portion of a "Red State."
Don't feed them and don't get your fingers near their mouths.
Excellent post, Duncan. Requires and provokes thought on the reader's part, and then makes an incisive and revealing point just at the end.
Excellent post, Duncan. Requires and provokes thought on the reader's part, and then makes an incisive and revealing point just at the end.
I took a picture of one of the Christmas trees at work and put it on my blog, if anyone wants to see.
I took a picture of one of the Christmas trees at work and put it on my blog, if anyone wants to see.
DWD: Are there any of you cat owners and lovers willing to give the boy a bit of comfort? (He thinks he has a defective kitten.)
Cat owners? [She titters.] First lesson: CATS are the owners, we exist only to serve them.
Along those lines, patience and paying close attention to what the kitten is demanding of you will pay off in the long run. Once you can read the signals and understand when the little darling wants to be fed, to nap, or to bounce off the walls, he/she will gradually come to tolerate being a lapsitter and even purr for you on occasion. Remember, tho, it will be when he/she chooses, not when you are the one looking for comfort.
With these simple guidelines, your son and his GF will find being owned by a cat to be a truly joyful experience.
DWD: Are there any of you cat owners and lovers willing to give the boy a bit of comfort? (He thinks he has a defective kitten.)
Cat owners? [She titters.] First lesson: CATS are the owners, we exist only to serve them.
Along those lines, patience and paying close attention to what the kitten is demanding of you will pay off in the long run. Once you can read the signals and understand when the little darling wants to be fed, to nap, or to bounce off the walls, he/she will gradually come to tolerate being a lapsitter and even purr for you on occasion. Remember, tho, it will be when he/she chooses, not when you are the one looking for comfort.
With these simple guidelines, your son and his GF will find being owned by a cat to be a truly joyful experience.
Oh puleeez, isn"t baby jesus butt plug a bit too much today? Unless, of course your intention is to offend?
Oh puleeez, isn"t baby jesus butt plug a bit too much today? Unless, of course your intention is to offend?
Cats were worshiped in ancient Egypt and they've never forgot that.
Cats were worshiped in ancient Egypt and they've never forgot that.
Sweet baby jesus.
David Brooks is recommending "mind-expanding" essays from "public intellectuals".
This should be good, considering that reading Bobo as a public intellectual is akin to eating at Chili's to experience gourmet.
Sweet baby jesus.
David Brooks is recommending "mind-expanding" essays from "public intellectuals".
This should be good, considering that reading Bobo as a public intellectual is akin to eating at Chili's to experience gourmet.
Can't we just send our electronic voting machines over there? The repugs won't need them for almost two years.
It would be funny if they did and forgot to reprogram them and Bush won 51% of the vote over Sistani.
Can't we just send our electronic voting machines over there? The repugs won't need them for almost two years.
It would be funny if they did and forgot to reprogram them and Bush won 51% of the vote over Sistani.
Dogs are like men, so they are stupid. Cats, being feminine, are divine.
Dogs are like men, so they are stupid. Cats, being feminine, are divine.
Occasionally though, I have to throw String against the wall with all my might and have him slide slowly back down before he gets what I want him to do.
Occasionally though, I have to throw String against the wall with all my might and have him slide slowly back down before he gets what I want him to do.
"public intellectuals"
Noam Chomsky? Frantz Fanon? Katha Pollitt? Howard Zinn? Edward Said? bell hoooks? Ehrenreich? Mad Law Prof Pat Williamson? no, wait a minute, the clue was "mind-expanding"...
FRANK ZAPPA, WILLIAM BURROUGHS AND TIMOTHY LEARY!!!! YEAAAH, BABY, YEAAAH!!!
"public intellectuals"
Noam Chomsky? Frantz Fanon? Katha Pollitt? Howard Zinn? Edward Said? bell hoooks? Ehrenreich? Mad Law Prof Pat Williamson? no, wait a minute, the clue was "mind-expanding"...
FRANK ZAPPA, WILLIAM BURROUGHS AND TIMOTHY LEARY!!!! YEAAAH, BABY, YEAAAH!!!
OK OK I keed, I keed...
OK OK I keed, I keed...
Morlock Hunter: amazing how you morlocks just spew invective towards our leaders and operate out of pure hate and spite!
Morlock Hunter
Now, now. There was absolutely no invective, that's pure projection. My post was an observation about Johnson continuously stirring the pot and wondering about the ethics of his posts being largely other people's work, for which he is making money. There are other sites who have had to agree not to post wholesale articles, 'fair use' being the issue. Johnson, it seems, is not a writer or commentator, merely a cut-n-paster who throws in snarky remarks. Most of what he cut-n-pastes is suggested by his commentators, so he's got a good thing going here. Not much work involved.
Morlock Hunter: amazing how you morlocks just spew invective towards our leaders and operate out of pure hate and spite!
Morlock Hunter
Now, now. There was absolutely no invective, that's pure projection. My post was an observation about Johnson continuously stirring the pot and wondering about the ethics of his posts being largely other people's work, for which he is making money. There are other sites who have had to agree not to post wholesale articles, 'fair use' being the issue. Johnson, it seems, is not a writer or commentator, merely a cut-n-paster who throws in snarky remarks. Most of what he cut-n-pastes is suggested by his commentators, so he's got a good thing going here. Not much work involved.
I was over at www.whatreallyhappened.com and came across this article Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede
Election Challenge likely on Jan 6th
on a site called "Break for News". Cool!
I was over at www.whatreallyhappened.com and came across this article Kerry Preparing Grounds to Unconcede
Election Challenge likely on Jan 6th
on a site called "Break for News". Cool!
I nominate yuri and kei for Baby New Year.
I nominate yuri and kei for Baby New Year.
kei & yuri and incog/o?o are probably the same person.
kei & yuri and incog/o?o are probably the same person.
There was absolutely no invective, that's pure projection. My post was an observation about Johnson continuously stirring the pot and wondering about the ethics of his posts being largely other people's work, for which he is making money.
Forget about the ethics of making money. How about the psychological element?
Can you imagine your life's work being to stir up hatred against one religious/ethnic group?
That's got to cause some deep spiritual damage after awhile.
There was absolutely no invective, that's pure projection. My post was an observation about Johnson continuously stirring the pot and wondering about the ethics of his posts being largely other people's work, for which he is making money.
Forget about the ethics of making money. How about the psychological element?
Can you imagine your life's work being to stir up hatred against one religious/ethnic group?
That's got to cause some deep spiritual damage after awhile.
Oh puleeez, isn"t baby jesus butt plug a bit too much today? Unless, of course your intention is to offend?
ruby in the dust
So sorry I brought it up. I was viewing one of st yuri & black kei's posts and clicked on their homepage. That was what was in it. I found it amusing to ask where to find one since I already looked at the link.
Oh puleeez, isn"t baby jesus butt plug a bit too much today? Unless, of course your intention is to offend?
ruby in the dust
So sorry I brought it up. I was viewing one of st yuri & black kei's posts and clicked on their homepage. That was what was in it. I found it amusing to ask where to find one since I already looked at the link.
kei & yuri and incog/o?o are probably the same person.
the one
You're just being spazzed. Walk toward the light.
kei & yuri and incog/o?o are probably the same person.
the one
You're just being spazzed. Walk toward the light.
st yuri & black kei -
I must demur. Dogs are dogly, knowing no gender, holding no gender one above the other. To dogs, -their- Person is God. To those of us who are entrusted with dogs, we must remember that God must always be the kind of God that our dogs believe us to be.
What the hell goes on with cats, I dunno.
st yuri & black kei -
I must demur. Dogs are dogly, knowing no gender, holding no gender one above the other. To dogs, -their- Person is God. To those of us who are entrusted with dogs, we must remember that God must always be the kind of God that our dogs believe us to be.
What the hell goes on with cats, I dunno.
kei & yuri and incog/o?o are probably the same person.
the one
You know you spend too much time on a site when you know enough about two particular anonymous posters to realize just how completely mistaken this is.
kei & yuri and incog/o?o are probably the same person.
the one
You know you spend too much time on a site when you know enough about two particular anonymous posters to realize just how completely mistaken this is.
One needs to get through the short run to make it to the long run.
Given that reality, consider the effects of the big-state/small-state compromise reached in the drafting of the United States Constitution: about 650,000 residents of Alaska control 3 electoral college votes, and in the Senate - 2% of control. Entrenched minority privilege can lead to bad results.
In Washington, where I live, somewhat more than 6 million residents control 11 electoral votes and 2% control of the Senate.
So, a single voter in Alaska is about 4 times more effective than I am in the electoral college, and about 9 times more effective in the Senate where (among other things) international treaties and federal judgeships are ratified.
If I lived in New York or California, of course, the disparity of senatorial influence would be even more striking.
One needs to get through the short run to make it to the long run.
Given that reality, consider the effects of the big-state/small-state compromise reached in the drafting of the United States Constitution: about 650,000 residents of Alaska control 3 electoral college votes, and in the Senate - 2% of control. Entrenched minority privilege can lead to bad results.
In Washington, where I live, somewhat more than 6 million residents control 11 electoral votes and 2% control of the Senate.
So, a single voter in Alaska is about 4 times more effective than I am in the electoral college, and about 9 times more effective in the Senate where (among other things) international treaties and federal judgeships are ratified.
If I lived in New York or California, of course, the disparity of senatorial influence would be even more striking.
ummm, the website itself is where to buy; they also have Mary, Judas, etc.
You know what's amazing is nobody thinks "black kei" (from coal-dispensing "black peter") is too much for today.
ummm, the website itself is where to buy; they also have Mary, Judas, etc.
You know what's amazing is nobody thinks "black kei" (from coal-dispensing "black peter") is too much for today.
That isn't quite like paranoia but more like dumbnoia.
That isn't quite like paranoia but more like dumbnoia.
How about we give 51% of the seats to women?
How about we give 51% of the seats to women?
Oldwhitelady: cool news indeed. Keeping fingers crossed.
Oldwhitelady: cool news indeed. Keeping fingers crossed.
Did these people have a Merry Christmas?
Dad Tries to Sell Christmas Gifts on EBay
HOUSTON (AP) -- The kids were naughty, Dad put the presents on eBay instead of under the tree - and Mom's been crying ever since. Now, even the tree's down.
Sometimes you have to make good on what you say so that the kids will know you mean it.
Years and years ago, when my son and my youngest neice were youngsters, My other neice, K, (a couple years younger than I) the kids, and I were driving somewhere and we were going to stop for hamburgers/fries to take to the park. The kids were being unruly and K told the kids that if they didn't behave they would get beans. Sure enough, they would not behave. We stopped and got burgers/fries then stopped at a convenience store and picked up some beans and a can-opener. When we got to the park, the kids were shocked to find out they actually were getting beans for lunch
Did these people have a Merry Christmas?
Dad Tries to Sell Christmas Gifts on EBay
HOUSTON (AP) -- The kids were naughty, Dad put the presents on eBay instead of under the tree - and Mom's been crying ever since. Now, even the tree's down.
Sometimes you have to make good on what you say so that the kids will know you mean it.
Years and years ago, when my son and my youngest neice were youngsters, My other neice, K, (a couple years younger than I) the kids, and I were driving somewhere and we were going to stop for hamburgers/fries to take to the park. The kids were being unruly and K told the kids that if they didn't behave they would get beans. Sure enough, they would not behave. We stopped and got burgers/fries then stopped at a convenience store and picked up some beans and a can-opener. When we got to the park, the kids were shocked to find out they actually were getting beans for lunch
the senate exists to give the states more power, trumping the people.
the senate exists to give the states more power, trumping the people.
st yuri & black kei
Yeah, the website, but you had it in your homepage. haa ha ha hee hee hee snurx ha ha ha
st yuri & black kei
Yeah, the website, but you had it in your homepage. haa ha ha hee hee hee snurx ha ha ha
Cranky When Old
Yes, I am, too!
Cranky When Old
Yes, I am, too!
I take that back. Don't walk toward the light. It's just a trick.
Seriously.
I take that back. Don't walk toward the light. It's just a trick.
Seriously.
How about we give 51% of the seats to women?
Sounds like a plan to me. Provided they are drawn from that pool of Iraqi women who have college educations, professions, work outside the home.... Oh that's right. That would acknowledge that "Before the Gulf War in 1991, the UN graded Iraq's standard of living equal to that of Greece. And the status of Iraqi women reflected this.
Within two decades of Ba'ath Party control, literacy for women was 88 percent, up from 23 percent in 1970. In the 1970s and '80s, facing a labor shortage, the government actively encouraged women to join the work force. In 1974, it decreed that all university graduates would automatically be employed.
New laws prohibited sex discrimination on the job and sexual harassment. Much-needed reforms were begun regarding divorce and inheritance. Abortion was not legalized, but contraception and family-planning information were widely available.
Iraq's educational system was legendary for its accessibility and efficiency. The government built new schools, trained teachers and doctors and scientists. More than half the university student population was female. Working women typically got six months fully paid maternity leave and an additional six months at half pay. Equal pay for equal work was common.
It was unimaginable that Iraqi women would be molested for not wearing the facial veil or for walking down the street unaccompanied by a male, as in Saudi Arabia. They were not segregated at work or in the mosques, and of course they drove cars and voted both illegal in Saudi Arabia. Women were notably active in public life and commonly in positions of management over male employees."
Hi. We're the United States of America and we're here to help.
How about we give 51% of the seats to women?
Sounds like a plan to me. Provided they are drawn from that pool of Iraqi women who have college educations, professions, work outside the home.... Oh that's right. That would acknowledge that "Before the Gulf War in 1991, the UN graded Iraq's standard of living equal to that of Greece. And the status of Iraqi women reflected this.
Within two decades of Ba'ath Party control, literacy for women was 88 percent, up from 23 percent in 1970. In the 1970s and '80s, facing a labor shortage, the government actively encouraged women to join the work force. In 1974, it decreed that all university graduates would automatically be employed.
New laws prohibited sex discrimination on the job and sexual harassment. Much-needed reforms were begun regarding divorce and inheritance. Abortion was not legalized, but contraception and family-planning information were widely available.
Iraq's educational system was legendary for its accessibility and efficiency. The government built new schools, trained teachers and doctors and scientists. More than half the university student population was female. Working women typically got six months fully paid maternity leave and an additional six months at half pay. Equal pay for equal work was common.
It was unimaginable that Iraqi women would be molested for not wearing the facial veil or for walking down the street unaccompanied by a male, as in Saudi Arabia. They were not segregated at work or in the mosques, and of course they drove cars and voted both illegal in Saudi Arabia. Women were notably active in public life and commonly in positions of management over male employees."
Hi. We're the United States of America and we're here to help.
VATICAN CITY - Pope John Paul II offered Christmas wishes Saturday for a world where he said timid but hopeful efforts at peace co-exist with worries over Iraq, the Holy Land and several tragic conflicts in Africa.
Hey, 71% of his "flock" voted to hand Preznit Jerkoff another four years to wage even more wars.
His bishops told the "flock" not to vote for John Kerry because fetuses were more important than the people being killed in Bush's war.
I find it very hypocritical that JP II can talk about peace when RCs supported King George the Warmonger so overwhelmingly!
VATICAN CITY - Pope John Paul II offered Christmas wishes Saturday for a world where he said timid but hopeful efforts at peace co-exist with worries over Iraq, the Holy Land and several tragic conflicts in Africa.
Hey, 71% of his "flock" voted to hand Preznit Jerkoff another four years to wage even more wars.
His bishops told the "flock" not to vote for John Kerry because fetuses were more important than the people being killed in Bush's war.
I find it very hypocritical that JP II can talk about peace when RCs supported King George the Warmonger so overwhelmingly!
Morlocks?
As in HGWells The Time Machine?
Crap, I was more offended by moonbats,
and I don't even know what that means.
Morlocks?
As in HGWells The Time Machine?
Crap, I was more offended by moonbats,
and I don't even know what that means.
Hi. We're the United States of America and we're here to help.
GWPDA
I always sorta thought Iraq metaphorically made the fatal mistake intentionally or not to become entangled with the US IRS. They're in the system now and they'll never escape.
Hi. We're the United States of America and we're here to help.
GWPDA
I always sorta thought Iraq metaphorically made the fatal mistake intentionally or not to become entangled with the US IRS. They're in the system now and they'll never escape.
Incog,
I love to have a day all alone every now and then. Just coming off a big brief and a quiet day at home with my cat is all I want. I don't think it's selfish to need time by yourself. Some of us are introvert on the Myers/Briggs and shouldn't feel guilty because America is terrified of loners. Give String some love from me.
Incog,
I love to have a day all alone every now and then. Just coming off a big brief and a quiet day at home with my cat is all I want. I don't think it's selfish to need time by yourself. Some of us are introvert on the Myers/Briggs and shouldn't feel guilty because America is terrified of loners. Give String some love from me.
Terry C,
Wasn't the pope actually against the war, though? I can't recall if he was hoping miserable failure would win or not. You are right, though, that the bishops and the flocks were all for miserable failure because of the abortion issue. Pityful!
Terry C,
Wasn't the pope actually against the war, though? I can't recall if he was hoping miserable failure would win or not. You are right, though, that the bishops and the flocks were all for miserable failure because of the abortion issue. Pityful!
ΤΏΤ dear, nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition...
ΤΏΤ dear, nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition...
An excellent example is the opposition of the GOP to DC statehood. It does not matter to them that the arguments they offer would also deny statehood to a certain mountain state but the idea of two additional Senators who would probably be Democrats upsets their tenuous grip on the levers of power and is unacceptable.
An excellent example is the opposition of the GOP to DC statehood. It does not matter to them that the arguments they offer would also deny statehood to a certain mountain state but the idea of two additional Senators who would probably be Democrats upsets their tenuous grip on the levers of power and is unacceptable.
Give String some love from me.
Hecate
I will. I just need some space and love my job these days. It gives me the rountine and normality I have to have. I just want to be at my job and be left alone.
Give String some love from me.
Hecate
I will. I just need some space and love my job these days. It gives me the rountine and normality I have to have. I just want to be at my job and be left alone.
They stole the election again.
They stole the election again.
Thoughts that only occur to you at
Christmas:
Max Von Sydow is the most overrated
actor ever.
Thoughts that only occur to you at
Christmas:
Max Von Sydow is the most overrated
actor ever.
The kitten is fine. Love it on its own terms and feed it the same way. Have food out at all times. Don't let small children pull its tail. Let it hide and rub its face on everything.
Never hit it or punish it physically, humans are much stronger than they know to animals and forget the damage they can do too easy. Remember, it's not only an animal, always smaller than you, but it's also a baby with an undeveloped understanding of the world.
I used a squirt bottle to the backside (not ears or face) to discourage the two bad habits my kitten had. Climbing the screen and getting on the table. The habits are pretty much extinguished when I'm home.
It'll grow up and be the boss, but it'll love you and let you live in its house and keep "your" bed warm for you.
The kitten is fine. Love it on its own terms and feed it the same way. Have food out at all times. Don't let small children pull its tail. Let it hide and rub its face on everything.
Never hit it or punish it physically, humans are much stronger than they know to animals and forget the damage they can do too easy. Remember, it's not only an animal, always smaller than you, but it's also a baby with an undeveloped understanding of the world.
I used a squirt bottle to the backside (not ears or face) to discourage the two bad habits my kitten had. Climbing the screen and getting on the table. The habits are pretty much extinguished when I'm home.
It'll grow up and be the boss, but it'll love you and let you live in its house and keep "your" bed warm for you.
spray bottle like in lilo and stitch!
spray bottle like in lilo and stitch!
When I got my cat she was 18 months old. She immediately ran and hid behind the couch. I left her alone and just made sure that food, water, and litter box were close to her hiding spot. For about 2 weeks she would never come out when I was there. Eventually, she'd come out once all the lights were off and I was in bed. Now, she's sitting on my shoulder, watching what I type. You just have to give them time to get used to a strange, new place.
When I got my cat she was 18 months old. She immediately ran and hid behind the couch. I left her alone and just made sure that food, water, and litter box were close to her hiding spot. For about 2 weeks she would never come out when I was there. Eventually, she'd come out once all the lights were off and I was in bed. Now, she's sitting on my shoulder, watching what I type. You just have to give them time to get used to a strange, new place.
von sydow overrated? not anybaldwin? not hopkins? not jimmy stewart? not the hideous asshole in "the man who loved women"? not cavaziel? not ethan hawke? not colin farrell?
you know who is absolutely incredible and a genius and you'd never think it is john leguizamo. john leguizamo is the only watchable part of inherent perpetual victim myth Collateral Damage.
von sydow overrated? not anybaldwin? not hopkins? not jimmy stewart? not the hideous asshole in "the man who loved women"? not cavaziel? not ethan hawke? not colin farrell?
you know who is absolutely incredible and a genius and you'd never think it is john leguizamo. john leguizamo is the only watchable part of inherent perpetual victim myth Collateral Damage.
oh, one more thing on kittens! Walk in socked feet not hard shoes until they become aware of the dangers of feet. Gently close all closet doors until they are no longer curious about the dark interiors.
It's unlikely that any kitten will grow up without an encounter with a foot or a closet door.
yes, my kitties are total mama's boys.
oh, one more thing on kittens! Walk in socked feet not hard shoes until they become aware of the dangers of feet. Gently close all closet doors until they are no longer curious about the dark interiors.
It's unlikely that any kitten will grow up without an encounter with a foot or a closet door.
yes, my kitties are total mama's boys.
st yuri & black kei | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 4:55 pm | #
Hey kids, it was just top of my head.
Greatest Story Ever Told is airing on
TCM.
st yuri & black kei | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 4:55 pm | #
Hey kids, it was just top of my head.
Greatest Story Ever Told is airing on
TCM.
did sydow play jesus in that?
did sydow play jesus in that?
I think everybody has post traumatic stress disorder from the stolen election. I guess what we need to do right now is what we're doing and that's healing and hopefully we'll be able to reverse what's going on in the near future. I realize I haven't been too helpful with my antics and I'll try to chill some of that.
I think everybody has post traumatic stress disorder from the stolen election. I guess what we need to do right now is what we're doing and that's healing and hopefully we'll be able to reverse what's going on in the near future. I realize I haven't been too helpful with my antics and I'll try to chill some of that.
Yeah, Max was Jesus.
Didn't get flayed as much as Mel
Gibson, but yeah,,,,,
Yeah, Max was Jesus.
Didn't get flayed as much as Mel
Gibson, but yeah,,,,,
see, jesus is usually a supremely, titanically, cosmically awful role. a disilusioned crusader, frustrated and desperate priest or an emporer of mars allows for so much more expression...
see, jesus is usually a supremely, titanically, cosmically awful role. a disilusioned crusader, frustrated and desperate priest or an emporer of mars allows for so much more expression...
String just climbed onto my head with a knit cap on and it started slipping and he dug his claws in to hang on.
ARRRRRAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!
String just climbed onto my head with a knit cap on and it started slipping and he dug his claws in to hang on.
ARRRRRAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!
His bishops told the "flock" not to vote for John Kerry because fetuses were more important than the people being killed in Bush's war.
I find it very hypocritical that JP II can talk about peace when RCs supported King George the Warmonger so overwhelmingly!--Terry C
But...but fetuses are people, too! And the pope wants us all to stop touching ouselves in self-abusing ways, and wives should alway be underneath their husbands. And of course you never DO IT unless you're married!!!!!
Oh, the War in Iraq? Yeah, that's bad, but NOT AS BAD AS SEXUALLY LIBERATED WOMEN!!!!!!!
His bishops told the "flock" not to vote for John Kerry because fetuses were more important than the people being killed in Bush's war.
I find it very hypocritical that JP II can talk about peace when RCs supported King George the Warmonger so overwhelmingly!--Terry C
But...but fetuses are people, too! And the pope wants us all to stop touching ouselves in self-abusing ways, and wives should alway be underneath their husbands. And of course you never DO IT unless you're married!!!!!
Oh, the War in Iraq? Yeah, that's bad, but NOT AS BAD AS SEXUALLY LIBERATED WOMEN!!!!!!!
I'm watching Frequency on Sci Fi, then later tonight a friend and I are going to watch Last Night for the umpteenth time. If you haven't seen it, I'd recommend it.
I'm watching Frequency on Sci Fi, then later tonight a friend and I are going to watch Last Night for the umpteenth time. If you haven't seen it, I'd recommend it.
I'm surprised that the version of Democracy that Bush is introducing to Iraq doesn't include gerrymandering. It would be the only way to make it a level playing field on the up-an-up.
It is one way to evenly separate and divide large, close-knit ethnic groups, while giving small groups an even chance to participate.
Governing requires a bit of forethough. Without it, you end up with anarchy.
regards
.
I'm surprised that the version of Democracy that Bush is introducing to Iraq doesn't include gerrymandering. It would be the only way to make it a level playing field on the up-an-up.
It is one way to evenly separate and divide large, close-knit ethnic groups, while giving small groups an even chance to participate.
Governing requires a bit of forethough. Without it, you end up with anarchy.
regards
.
Why don't they just send Diebold, Blackwell and Katherine Harris to Iraq. They have teamed up to steal two elections in America. Iraq should be simpler. However if you get caught there you might get shot. Here you just get promoted.
Why don't they just send Diebold, Blackwell and Katherine Harris to Iraq. They have teamed up to steal two elections in America. Iraq should be simpler. However if you get caught there you might get shot. Here you just get promoted.
Wow. On Fox News right now they had
some expert saying how great the
economy is.
Wow. On Fox News right now they had
some expert saying how great the
economy is.
Opening firehouses in Baghdad, closing them here.
Minority representation in Baghdad, utterly disregarding, dismissing, and shitting on the wishes of the (49%) minority here.
Promoting democracy in Baghdad, dismantling it here.
Just another day in Red State paradise.
Opening firehouses in Baghdad, closing them here.
Minority representation in Baghdad, utterly disregarding, dismissing, and shitting on the wishes of the (49%) minority here.
Promoting democracy in Baghdad, dismantling it here.
Just another day in Red State paradise.
On Fox News right now they had
some expert saying how great the
economy is.
But it's so much easier to make Baby Jesus smile if you just make up stuff.
On Fox News right now they had
some expert saying how great the
economy is.
But it's so much easier to make Baby Jesus smile if you just make up stuff.
Oldwhitelady - I'm late to the party - had christmas morning and then got dressed and went to the hospital.
That is incredible news, about Kerry. I read your link and just kept saying: "O my god, O my god, O my god..."
Unconceding on January 6? Could it be?
Oldwhitelady - I'm late to the party - had christmas morning and then got dressed and went to the hospital.
That is incredible news, about Kerry. I read your link and just kept saying: "O my god, O my god, O my god..."
Unconceding on January 6? Could it be?
Cat Bloggers,
Thanks. The kitten is delivered and the young lady and her family are delighted. I have printed out each and every message and given it to the kids. They, and I, appreciate your help very much. You are the best!
Cat Bloggers,
Thanks. The kitten is delivered and the young lady and her family are delighted. I have printed out each and every message and given it to the kids. They, and I, appreciate your help very much. You are the best!
The election was stolen.
The election was stolen.
Is that for real? Kerry preparing to unconcede?
Is that for real? Kerry preparing to unconcede?
Let's fight like hell if he unconcedes. The election was stolen.
Let's fight like hell if he unconcedes. The election was stolen.
If he unconcedes I'll fight like a goddamn dog in the street until they have to shoot me or something.
njpineygal - You need to read the post at the site that oldwhitelady links to upthread. That is the conjecture alright. To which I say: wow.
If he unconcedes I'll fight like a goddamn dog in the street until they have to shoot me or something.
njpineygal - You need to read the post at the site that oldwhitelady links to upthread. That is the conjecture alright. To which I say: wow.
ΤΏΤ - I have a small suggestion. Think about maybe going over to your Mum's to-morrow for Boxing Day, and taking Stringey with you. This will be a chance to see how he does in the car, and to show him other nice people. Also, your Mum would be happy to feed you and him both.
For everyone else, I recommend a more strenuous time starting with the 7am opening of your local Target for the acquisition of such fine things as 5cent packages of crisp tissue paper, 10cent rolls of wrapping paper and those really kuhl cellophane wrapped baskets of obscure but desirable foodstuffs at 75% off. I've gotten bottles of white truffle oil for $1.25!
All of this will allow you to properly celebrate the birth of Baby Jesus' younger brother, Bubba, as you wait for 6 January and the arrival of the Epiphany of John Kerry.
ΤΏΤ - I have a small suggestion. Think about maybe going over to your Mum's to-morrow for Boxing Day, and taking Stringey with you. This will be a chance to see how he does in the car, and to show him other nice people. Also, your Mum would be happy to feed you and him both.
For everyone else, I recommend a more strenuous time starting with the 7am opening of your local Target for the acquisition of such fine things as 5cent packages of crisp tissue paper, 10cent rolls of wrapping paper and those really kuhl cellophane wrapped baskets of obscure but desirable foodstuffs at 75% off. I've gotten bottles of white truffle oil for $1.25!
All of this will allow you to properly celebrate the birth of Baby Jesus' younger brother, Bubba, as you wait for 6 January and the arrival of the Epiphany of John Kerry.
But...but fetuses are people, too! And the pope wants us all to stop touching ouselves in self-abusing ways, and wives should alway be underneath their husbands. And of course you never DO IT unless you're married!!!!!
Wrong or partially right. You never do it unless you are married AND want to make a baby. Any other time, keep it zipped. The woman, subservient to her husband, has no say as to when she wants to get pregnant. Men, of course, only want to fuck when they want to create a baby. The rest of time they are more than will to find, uhm, other avenues.
But...but fetuses are people, too! And the pope wants us all to stop touching ouselves in self-abusing ways, and wives should alway be underneath their husbands. And of course you never DO IT unless you're married!!!!!
Wrong or partially right. You never do it unless you are married AND want to make a baby. Any other time, keep it zipped. The woman, subservient to her husband, has no say as to when she wants to get pregnant. Men, of course, only want to fuck when they want to create a baby. The rest of time they are more than will to find, uhm, other avenues.
Tena,
I did read the post. I just can't believe it. Actual democracy can't be breaking out here, can it?
Tena,
I did read the post. I just can't believe it. Actual democracy can't be breaking out here, can it?
You know what I really really want?
A baby Jesus buttplug. Would you know where I can get one? hahahahah
oldwhitelady | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 3:41 pm | #
http://www.divine-interventions....s.com/
baby.html
You know what I really really want?
A baby Jesus buttplug. Would you know where I can get one? hahahahah
oldwhitelady | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 3:41 pm | #
http://www.divine-interventions....s.com/
baby.html
Incog - If he unconcedes, I'll go crazy and I'll fight with you, side by side. It was stolen and something is sure going on because I don't think Kerry would have filed to join the lawsuit if there wasn't at least some degree of certainty. Which is not the same thing as saying he's going to win this fight. But man, if he unconcedes...
Incog - If he unconcedes, I'll go crazy and I'll fight with you, side by side. It was stolen and something is sure going on because I don't think Kerry would have filed to join the lawsuit if there wasn't at least some degree of certainty. Which is not the same thing as saying he's going to win this fight. But man, if he unconcedes...
String is too young and wild to be traveling now. When I've had a friend over or the bug guy to spray, he stays hidden the entire time.
String is too young and wild to be traveling now. When I've had a friend over or the bug guy to spray, he stays hidden the entire time.
BTW, Kerry in a court case!
BTW, Kerry in a court case!
njpineygal - All I can say is that I put any hope into a smallish box and hid it on the closet shelf behind some other stuff. I just couldn't look at it. Suddenly, the box is dancing around and making noise and wants to come out and play.
I'm cautious, but I may get it back down off the shelf and give hope a little air.
njpineygal - All I can say is that I put any hope into a smallish box and hid it on the closet shelf behind some other stuff. I just couldn't look at it. Suddenly, the box is dancing around and making noise and wants to come out and play.
I'm cautious, but I may get it back down off the shelf and give hope a little air.
Tena, something's been smoldering for awhile about it.
Tena, something's been smoldering for awhile about it.
Unconceding on January 6? Could it be?
I've had a feeling that jfk dropping off the face of the earth was weird. But I really can't get my hopes up that this is going anyplace. If the election is thrown into disarray, I guess the Congress would have to vote on whether or not to validate the electoral college vote.
Frankly, I want them to force a vote, because it has not ever (? Tilden Hayes) happened before and would thus add another asterick to W's* place in history. I will settle for that. Then we won't be the only ones taling about the BFEE.
* The only man to serve two terms as president who was never legitimately elected.
Unconceding on January 6? Could it be?
I've had a feeling that jfk dropping off the face of the earth was weird. But I really can't get my hopes up that this is going anyplace. If the election is thrown into disarray, I guess the Congress would have to vote on whether or not to validate the electoral college vote.
Frankly, I want them to force a vote, because it has not ever (? Tilden Hayes) happened before and would thus add another asterick to W's* place in history. I will settle for that. Then we won't be the only ones taling about the BFEE.
* The only man to serve two terms as president who was never legitimately elected.
DWD - the court case is why the hope I had put away is clamoring to get out again. I don't think Kerry would do this if he wasn't pretty convinced that he has good reason to.
DWD - the court case is why the hope I had put away is clamoring to get out again. I don't think Kerry would do this if he wasn't pretty convinced that he has good reason to.
"String is too young and wild to be traveling now. When I've had a friend over or the bug guy to spray, he stays hidden the entire time."
Well, you'll know when it's time. When I brought Arthur home for the first time I had absolutely no idea how the car and he would get along. Turned out, he was just crazy about it. Loved the wind in his ears. Not that he has any ears, but still.
"String is too young and wild to be traveling now. When I've had a friend over or the bug guy to spray, he stays hidden the entire time."
Well, you'll know when it's time. When I brought Arthur home for the first time I had absolutely no idea how the car and he would get along. Turned out, he was just crazy about it. Loved the wind in his ears. Not that he has any ears, but still.
Kerry has been strangely silent & invisible since 11/2. There are only two possible reasons for this that I can think of:
1. He's got something in the works.
2. He's just being a big pussy like most Democratic politicians.
Thing is, he's pretty much shown himself not to be a pussy, so...
Kerry has been strangely silent & invisible since 11/2. There are only two possible reasons for this that I can think of:
1. He's got something in the works.
2. He's just being a big pussy like most Democratic politicians.
Thing is, he's pretty much shown himself not to be a pussy, so...
Incog - I think you are wise to not take String to a strange house with a lot of people he doesn't know - he'll just freak and hide, most likely.
But if you ever want to take him places in the car, it would be good to start him young. Get him a carrier - you don't want him loose in the car if you are alone with him. Cats head right for the driver's feet and for some reason will get under the pedals and stay there. Makes it impossible to brake or drive.
Incog - I think you are wise to not take String to a strange house with a lot of people he doesn't know - he'll just freak and hide, most likely.
But if you ever want to take him places in the car, it would be good to start him young. Get him a carrier - you don't want him loose in the car if you are alone with him. Cats head right for the driver's feet and for some reason will get under the pedals and stay there. Makes it impossible to brake or drive.
String is too wild. I mean he's really wild and only barely tolerates me after all this time. Anything sends him bolting shot like an arrow from the room even the tea kettle whistling.
String is too wild. I mean he's really wild and only barely tolerates me after all this time. Anything sends him bolting shot like an arrow from the room even the tea kettle whistling.
"I guess the Congress would have to vote on whether or not to validate the electoral college vote. "
John Conyers is pretty certain that the Senate will challenge. He's a little coy, but pretty certain.
I've had an idea for some time that Kerry's rapid retreat was strategic - a means of misdirection. I hope so.
"I guess the Congress would have to vote on whether or not to validate the electoral college vote. "
John Conyers is pretty certain that the Senate will challenge. He's a little coy, but pretty certain.
I've had an idea for some time that Kerry's rapid retreat was strategic - a means of misdirection. I hope so.
Max Von Sydow is the most overrated actor ever.
Fuck that shit!
Two words: Strange Brew.
Max Von Sydow is the most overrated actor ever.
Fuck that shit!
Two words: Strange Brew.
Look, it's not like: Got Cat, Will Travel. String doesn't need to be going alot of meet ups. The next and only move he'll probably make after this is to Canada even if I sneak both of us in.
Look, it's not like: Got Cat, Will Travel. String doesn't need to be going alot of meet ups. The next and only move he'll probably make after this is to Canada even if I sneak both of us in.
"after all this time"
Tee-hee! Incog it's only been like ten or fifteen days! I'm with Tena on this one - maybe before anything, take Stringey out to the car and let him explore it. Don't go anywhere, just get in with him and let him see what it is. Lots of smells and nooks and many crannies.
"after all this time"
Tee-hee! Incog it's only been like ten or fifteen days! I'm with Tena on this one - maybe before anything, take Stringey out to the car and let him explore it. Don't go anywhere, just get in with him and let him see what it is. Lots of smells and nooks and many crannies.
It kind of makes sense that JFK, the former prosecutor, would be quietly building his case in the background, and then hit them out of the blue when they are unprepared. See, I just said I'm not getting my hopes up, but, Please, oh please let this happen.
If it happens, I promise to be a good woman for the rest of my life. I will turn myself over to my husband and do whatever he wants me to forever (pretty safe promise since he has never asked me to do anything I didn't want to do anyway). But really, this could turn me into a praying woman.
It kind of makes sense that JFK, the former prosecutor, would be quietly building his case in the background, and then hit them out of the blue when they are unprepared. See, I just said I'm not getting my hopes up, but, Please, oh please let this happen.
If it happens, I promise to be a good woman for the rest of my life. I will turn myself over to my husband and do whatever he wants me to forever (pretty safe promise since he has never asked me to do anything I didn't want to do anyway). But really, this could turn me into a praying woman.
Sting is fine just the way he is.
Sting is fine just the way he is.
String is too wild. I mean he's really wild and only barely tolerates me after all this time. Anything sends him bolting shot like an arrow from the room even the tea kettle whistling.
It's only been a couple of weeks. Give him time. I second leaving him home. My cats never adjusted to car. But by all means, visit your poor ole mum for a bit and get some good home cooking.
String is too wild. I mean he's really wild and only barely tolerates me after all this time. Anything sends him bolting shot like an arrow from the room even the tea kettle whistling.
It's only been a couple of weeks. Give him time. I second leaving him home. My cats never adjusted to car. But by all means, visit your poor ole mum for a bit and get some good home cooking.
Man, if Kerry unconcedes, the right will come completely fucking unglued.
Talk about your wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Man, if Kerry unconcedes, the right will come completely fucking unglued.
Talk about your wailing and gnashing of teeth.
He doesn't needed to be "moulded" or "shaped" to fit what some females believe he would better off be.
He doesn't needed to be "moulded" or "shaped" to fit what some females believe he would better off be.
String is an untamed spirit and I can appreciate that.
String is an untamed spirit and I can appreciate that.
I've had an idea for some time that Kerry's rapid retreat was strategic - a means of misdirection. I hope so.
strategic and graceful. If, as the article says, he wins by the results being found to be false and never has to unconcede or challenge the mighty villain in court, the bastion of liberal justice.
Oh, goodie...boy king may not be allowed to take the crown? I can't even get my hopes up...but if it's found to be true...I'll get my torch and manure fork out.
I've had an idea for some time that Kerry's rapid retreat was strategic - a means of misdirection. I hope so.
strategic and graceful. If, as the article says, he wins by the results being found to be false and never has to unconcede or challenge the mighty villain in court, the bastion of liberal justice.
Oh, goodie...boy king may not be allowed to take the crown? I can't even get my hopes up...but if it's found to be true...I'll get my torch and manure fork out.
Countdown wasn't on December 23rd though, at least there aren't any available transcripts and K.O. is on vacation.
Countdown wasn't on December 23rd though, at least there aren't any available transcripts and K.O. is on vacation.
Jeebus. It took Eve a month before she'd let me touch her, let alone come in the house.
Egads, give him a break.
Jeebus. It took Eve a month before she'd let me touch her, let alone come in the house.
Egads, give him a break.
"He doesn't needed to be "moulded" or "shaped" to fit what some females believe he would better off be."
No, he needs to become familiar with his environment so that he isn't frightened. That's your job - you're his Person. You have to show him the way stuff is around where he is now. Otherwise, you would be living by the side of the track and he would be looking out for you.
"He doesn't needed to be "moulded" or "shaped" to fit what some females believe he would better off be."
No, he needs to become familiar with his environment so that he isn't frightened. That's your job - you're his Person. You have to show him the way stuff is around where he is now. Otherwise, you would be living by the side of the track and he would be looking out for you.
Talk about your wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Central Scrutinizer | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 6:01 pm | #
hee, hee
Talk about your wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Central Scrutinizer | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 6:01 pm | #
hee, hee
QuiltLady - That's been my thought all along; or at least, my distant hope.
Central Scrutinizer - Man, if Kerry unconcedes, the right will come completely fucking unglued.
Just exactly what I was just thinking. Won't the pundits have to scramble and retool after all these weeks of hammering the moral values mandate idea. That alone would be worth it.
QuiltLady - That's been my thought all along; or at least, my distant hope.
Central Scrutinizer - Man, if Kerry unconcedes, the right will come completely fucking unglued.
Just exactly what I was just thinking. Won't the pundits have to scramble and retool after all these weeks of hammering the moral values mandate idea. That alone would be worth it.
And let's recall that advocating--or, more accurately, just writing about--proportional representation was what led to Lanie Guinier being withdrawn as Clinton's nominee for Attorney General.
And let's recall that advocating--or, more accurately, just writing about--proportional representation was what led to Lanie Guinier being withdrawn as Clinton's nominee for Attorney General.
OK, OK, OK, let me think about it there's no rush.
OK, OK, OK, let me think about it there's no rush.
That doesn't sound like democracry. That sounds a lot like quota system. Where's the outrage? Where's the outcry? al-Sistani's a quota king.
That doesn't sound like democracry. That sounds a lot like quota system. Where's the outrage? Where's the outcry? al-Sistani's a quota king.
I'm laying off the Hypnotiq martinis for the rest of the night. Bush's plan doesn't sound like Democracy to me. It sounds like a quota system. Wasn't there a big outcry about how people should be judge on their merits and not based upon their ethnic or religious background? Isn't the person's accomplishments supposed to count above all things?
I'm laying off the Hypnotiq martinis for the rest of the night. Bush's plan doesn't sound like Democracy to me. It sounds like a quota system. Wasn't there a big outcry about how people should be judge on their merits and not based upon their ethnic or religious background? Isn't the person's accomplishments supposed to count above all things?
Rowen - Yeah, I know it - I remember it well. I read an article she wrote on her plan when she was still being considered for AG, and I thought it was the most sensible thing I'd ever read on the subject.
It would be just like them to use her idea in Iraq while simultaneously stealing elections over here. Sons of bitches.
Rowen - Yeah, I know it - I remember it well. I read an article she wrote on her plan when she was still being considered for AG, and I thought it was the most sensible thing I'd ever read on the subject.
It would be just like them to use her idea in Iraq while simultaneously stealing elections over here. Sons of bitches.
My friend Freddie makes the best martinis with the little Spanish olives and onions with Gin.
My friend Freddie makes the best martinis with the little Spanish olives and onions with Gin.
He'll make them all night sitting in his hot tub and you'll think you're fine but then you try to stand up and you'll get all jack-legged
He'll make them all night sitting in his hot tub and you'll think you're fine but then you try to stand up and you'll get all jack-legged
I used to put spanish olives way up in my pee pee Turnpike and let Strom dig them out with his tongue.
-Liddy Dole
I used to put spanish olives way up in my pee pee Turnpike and let Strom dig them out with his tongue.
-Liddy Dole
Two words: Strange Brew.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 5:53 pm | #
Oh lordy -- I stand corrected.
Best version of Hamlet ever....
Two words: Strange Brew.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 12.25.04 - 5:53 pm | #
Oh lordy -- I stand corrected.
Best version of Hamlet ever....
Man, if Kerry unconcedes, the right will come completely fucking unglued.
Talk about your wailing and gnashing of teeth.
So do we get to say that all the "Dems need to be more accommodating" crap is just that--crap?
The right will come unglued. And I don't know how all of this will play out if Ohio's votes come under fire. It could go a lot of ways.
I do know that, if it goes Kerry's way, JFK part II will face a rightwing counterattack that made Clinton's admin seem like Hobbiton on Xanax.
It'll be ugly, folks. Very, very ugly...
Man, if Kerry unconcedes, the right will come completely fucking unglued.
Talk about your wailing and gnashing of teeth.
So do we get to say that all the "Dems need to be more accommodating" crap is just that--crap?
The right will come unglued. And I don't know how all of this will play out if Ohio's votes come under fire. It could go a lot of ways.
I do know that, if it goes Kerry's way, JFK part II will face a rightwing counterattack that made Clinton's admin seem like Hobbiton on Xanax.
It'll be ugly, folks. Very, very ugly...
I don't think its gonna happen.
The press won't stand for it.
I don't think its gonna happen.
The press won't stand for it.
ΤΏΤ - I mean, it's not like my discovery that the two dozen failed pina colada muffins I made are in fact superb examples of a sponge cake and should be used instantly in a trifle that would cause me to be elected President of the Universe. No, I take it back. I can put them back in the freezer and not think about them for awhile....
ΤΏΤ - I mean, it's not like my discovery that the two dozen failed pina colada muffins I made are in fact superb examples of a sponge cake and should be used instantly in a trifle that would cause me to be elected President of the Universe. No, I take it back. I can put them back in the freezer and not think about them for awhile....
all us crackheads coming here for a toke after too much stuffing and gravy, i see...
incog, i love the fact that you're crazy. i hope your cat turns out so as well, we need more ceiling fan hanging cats in the world. merry holidays!
i just finished dinner with mom and g'mom, and g'mom was all about religion. now, she voted for kerry and hates bush with the fire of a thousand suns, but for some reason i can't get her to stop watching TBN. she was going on and on about how islam is evil, TBN ministries are saving hatians and africans from starvation thru jeebus, and how there is nothing wrong with TV preachers owning private jets. it's maddening! she and i agree on every other issue, she even left saying, "i'm so proud i raised my family liberal" and i can't stop her from sending the TBN people her money.
the holidays...always fun at my place.
all us crackheads coming here for a toke after too much stuffing and gravy, i see...
incog, i love the fact that you're crazy. i hope your cat turns out so as well, we need more ceiling fan hanging cats in the world. merry holidays!
i just finished dinner with mom and g'mom, and g'mom was all about religion. now, she voted for kerry and hates bush with the fire of a thousand suns, but for some reason i can't get her to stop watching TBN. she was going on and on about how islam is evil, TBN ministries are saving hatians and africans from starvation thru jeebus, and how there is nothing wrong with TV preachers owning private jets. it's maddening! she and i agree on every other issue, she even left saying, "i'm so proud i raised my family liberal" and i can't stop her from sending the TBN people her money.
the holidays...always fun at my place.
I gave my dogs their presents, and Hank loved his George Bush chewtoy. It has little Western boots and a book about English as a second language in the backpocket. Henrietta didn't want the Arnold the Governator one, which I knew because Henrietta is the boss of the house and bosses don't play. So Hank has two chewtoys.
THen they got peanut butter dog cookies and I gave them one each and left the room with the bag on the table. Which has always been safe. I came back to two fighting dogs and no dog biscuits left. Henrietta is twelve and Hank is five and they have never ever had a fight. This was a real one. What Christmas does to you!
I gave my dogs their presents, and Hank loved his George Bush chewtoy. It has little Western boots and a book about English as a second language in the backpocket. Henrietta didn't want the Arnold the Governator one, which I knew because Henrietta is the boss of the house and bosses don't play. So Hank has two chewtoys.
THen they got peanut butter dog cookies and I gave them one each and left the room with the bag on the table. Which has always been safe. I came back to two fighting dogs and no dog biscuits left. Henrietta is twelve and Hank is five and they have never ever had a fight. This was a real one. What Christmas does to you!
And Kerry is not unconceding. He's just joining the Ohio suit which means pretty much nothing.
It's all like a game, and nobody wants to see that the game was played fraudulently, because that would collapse the whole system. So nothing will happen now, and the same farce will take place in two years time and so on.
And Kerry is not unconceding. He's just joining the Ohio suit which means pretty much nothing.
It's all like a game, and nobody wants to see that the game was played fraudulently, because that would collapse the whole system. So nothing will happen now, and the same farce will take place in two years time and so on.
LJ,
Yes, but if he'd won on 11/2, that would have happened anyway. They're so filled with vitriol that they have nothing else. I actually think the staged antics in the Ukraine would have been on every street corner in America if JFK had seemed to have won.
But this is sort of what I've been stewing on all along, JFK on the Paths of the Dead, coming up the river from around the back to seize the day.
Oh, please, please, please? I'll give my iPod back if I can have this for Christmas instead!
LJ,
Yes, but if he'd won on 11/2, that would have happened anyway. They're so filled with vitriol that they have nothing else. I actually think the staged antics in the Ukraine would have been on every street corner in America if JFK had seemed to have won.
But this is sort of what I've been stewing on all along, JFK on the Paths of the Dead, coming up the river from around the back to seize the day.
Oh, please, please, please? I'll give my iPod back if I can have this for Christmas instead!
2 iron laws on Iraq:
1-George Bush aint leaving until the oil wells run dry.
2-The only Sunni's who will be part of the government the US intstalls will be 100% US approved Sunni's. "Uncle Sunni's," something like Uncle Toms.
2 iron laws on Iraq:
1-George Bush aint leaving until the oil wells run dry.
2-The only Sunni's who will be part of the government the US intstalls will be 100% US approved Sunni's. "Uncle Sunni's," something like Uncle Toms.
Echidne - it's the peanut butter. I wish I ever had bought the mold at Petsmart that let you make your own dog biscuits - imagine! Fresh biscuits for the guys.... Arthur got a really big rawhide knot which he has buried and removed about five times so far - it needs to age. I'm making sure not to pay any attention where it is now.
Meanwhile, Lani Guinier fans can always revisit things this way: ""Racial Politics and the Clinton-Guinier Episode," Dissent, (Spring 1995): 221-235. [An exchange about this article appeared in Dissent, (Fall 1995) - Lani Guinier, "The Miner's Canary: Race and the Democratic Process", and David Plotke, "Response": 521-529]"
Echidne - it's the peanut butter. I wish I ever had bought the mold at Petsmart that let you make your own dog biscuits - imagine! Fresh biscuits for the guys.... Arthur got a really big rawhide knot which he has buried and removed about five times so far - it needs to age. I'm making sure not to pay any attention where it is now.
Meanwhile, Lani Guinier fans can always revisit things this way: ""Racial Politics and the Clinton-Guinier Episode," Dissent, (Spring 1995): 221-235. [An exchange about this article appeared in Dissent, (Fall 1995) - Lani Guinier, "The Miner's Canary: Race and the Democratic Process", and David Plotke, "Response": 521-529]"
Jeez, my mom is expecting me right now for dinner. I can't do it and I love her so much but right now, I've a series of unfortunate events this week and I just want to be left alone. My twin drove to Florida on vacation so it's all on me to make the appearance for all she's cooked and I can't do it. That's it for me tonight.
Jeez, my mom is expecting me right now for dinner. I can't do it and I love her so much but right now, I've a series of unfortunate events this week and I just want to be left alone. My twin drove to Florida on vacation so it's all on me to make the appearance for all she's cooked and I can't do it. That's it for me tonight.
NYMary - But this is sort of what I've been stewing on all along, JFK on the Paths of the Dead, coming up the river from around the back to seize the day.
Merry Christmas to you and Thersites and the beautiful children of your union.
This is what I've had going on in the back of my mind, too, Mary. This is kind of goofy and weird, but right after the election, I threw the I Ching about it. I swear to y'all, this is what it led me to believe was going to happen.
Now, I'm aware that the future doesn't exist except as possiblities. That's kind of why I like the I Ching - it seems to be based on possibilites because it is based on movement (and fundamentally I'm more of a Taoist than I am a Buddhist.) However, it can be the most frustrating thing in the world to try to get an answer from. But right after the election I got a very clear answer, and this is pretty much what it said. Which doesn't make it real, just spooky. Really spooky.
[it's another guilty pleasure, like horoscopes. What makes it not quite as guilty is that it can be so obscure that a lot of times it's almost meaningless. When it's clear like this was, who knows?]
NYMary - But this is sort of what I've been stewing on all along, JFK on the Paths of the Dead, coming up the river from around the back to seize the day.
Merry Christmas to you and Thersites and the beautiful children of your union.
This is what I've had going on in the back of my mind, too, Mary. This is kind of goofy and weird, but right after the election, I threw the I Ching about it. I swear to y'all, this is what it led me to believe was going to happen.
Now, I'm aware that the future doesn't exist except as possiblities. That's kind of why I like the I Ching - it seems to be based on possibilites because it is based on movement (and fundamentally I'm more of a Taoist than I am a Buddhist.) However, it can be the most frustrating thing in the world to try to get an answer from. But right after the election I got a very clear answer, and this is pretty much what it said. Which doesn't make it real, just spooky. Really spooky.
[it's another guilty pleasure, like horoscopes. What makes it not quite as guilty is that it can be so obscure that a lot of times it's almost meaningless. When it's clear like this was, who knows?]
BTW, you should really check out
the christmas posting over at crazy
andy sullivan.
I was hoping for a prime slice of
nauseatingly sentimental victorian
religious claptrap, and damn if the
bastard didn't come through for me.
BTW, you should really check out
the christmas posting over at crazy
andy sullivan.
I was hoping for a prime slice of
nauseatingly sentimental victorian
religious claptrap, and damn if the
bastard didn't come through for me.
I do know that, if it goes Kerry's way...
If it did, and voter fraud could be proven via electronic voting machines, wouldn't this open the door to investigations of other close races where repugs won and the same machines were used?
I do know that, if it goes Kerry's way...
If it did, and voter fraud could be proven via electronic voting machines, wouldn't this open the door to investigations of other close races where repugs won and the same machines were used?
ΤΏΤ - Sugar, she's your Mother. You call her and tell her and she'll understand. But just don't let it sit in the oven, hear? You call and tell her. No worries. Don't you think she knows you?
ΤΏΤ - Sugar, she's your Mother. You call her and tell her and she'll understand. But just don't let it sit in the oven, hear? You call and tell her. No worries. Don't you think she knows you?
Best version of Hamlet ever is from Shel Silverstein.
HAMLET (AS TOLD ON THE STREET)
By Shel Silverstein
Now Francisco and Bernardo, they was guardin the castle,
Leanin on their spears, not lookin for no hassle,
Havin themselves a brew or two,
When out in the night they hear woo-wooo-wooo.
And here comes this ghost, lookin ragged and rank,
In a rusty suit of armor, goin clank, clank, clank.
They say, "Hey, Mr. Ghost, are you our dear departed king?"
But the ghost dont say one motherfuckin thing.
He goes, "Wooo-wooo-wooo." They say, "Hey, we better split,
And go tell Hamlet about this shit."
So they run find Hamlet, they say, "Hey, sweet Prince,
Your daddys ghost been seen runnin hither and hince.
Hes all full of maggots and hes grizzly and grim,
Somethins rotten in Denmark and -- whew -- we think its him."
Hamlet say, "Oh, are you sure its my pop?
Did he have matty gray hair with a bald spot on top?
Did he have bright blue eyes that never know fear
And a tattoo says GERTRUDE FOREVER right here?"
They say, "Hey, the thing just flittered by our station,
We didnt give him no physical examination.
And we dont know for sure if your daddy was the one,
But we do know a motherfuckin ghost when we see one."
Hamlet say, "Show me where you spied this spectral klunk
So I see if its my pop, or if you was both drunk."
So they bring ol Hamlet to the spot, and then
They wait five minutes and wooooo ---
Here he comes again.
He got gray skin, black teeth and hollow eyes,
Beckonin like this -- young Hamlet cries,
"Hold, spirit of darkness, are you a ghostly apparition?"
"No," says the ghost, "I look like this from malnutrition.
Of course Im a ghost, but don, dont be scared,
And Ill tell you some shit thatll fry your hair."
(There is more if anyone is interested)
Best version of Hamlet ever is from Shel Silverstein.
HAMLET (AS TOLD ON THE STREET)
By Shel Silverstein
Now Francisco and Bernardo, they was guardin the castle,
Leanin on their spears, not lookin for no hassle,
Havin themselves a brew or two,
When out in the night they hear woo-wooo-wooo.
And here comes this ghost, lookin ragged and rank,
In a rusty suit of armor, goin clank, clank, clank.
They say, "Hey, Mr. Ghost, are you our dear departed king?"
But the ghost dont say one motherfuckin thing.
He goes, "Wooo-wooo-wooo." They say, "Hey, we better split,
And go tell Hamlet about this shit."
So they run find Hamlet, they say, "Hey, sweet Prince,
Your daddys ghost been seen runnin hither and hince.
Hes all full of maggots and hes grizzly and grim,
Somethins rotten in Denmark and -- whew -- we think its him."
Hamlet say, "Oh, are you sure its my pop?
Did he have matty gray hair with a bald spot on top?
Did he have bright blue eyes that never know fear
And a tattoo says GERTRUDE FOREVER right here?"
They say, "Hey, the thing just flittered by our station,
We didnt give him no physical examination.
And we dont know for sure if your daddy was the one,
But we do know a motherfuckin ghost when we see one."
Hamlet say, "Show me where you spied this spectral klunk
So I see if its my pop, or if you was both drunk."
So they bring ol Hamlet to the spot, and then
They wait five minutes and wooooo ---
Here he comes again.
He got gray skin, black teeth and hollow eyes,
Beckonin like this -- young Hamlet cries,
"Hold, spirit of darkness, are you a ghostly apparition?"
"No," says the ghost, "I look like this from malnutrition.
Of course Im a ghost, but don, dont be scared,
And Ill tell you some shit thatll fry your hair."
(There is more if anyone is interested)
NYMary,
If we can have a new President for Christmas instead, I'll see your iPod and raise you one iBook.
NYMary,
If we can have a new President for Christmas instead, I'll see your iPod and raise you one iBook.
I know I'm dreaming here, but what if?
I know I'm dreaming here, but what if?
NY Mary:
Yes, he would have had it rough, but it would be worse now. Much worse. After they thought they had it locked up, and the Dems could be flogged at will for the next four years?
Echidne may be right. This may be going through the motions. I don't know. We can't really know, until it plays out.
I guess we'll have to do what we can to show we are willing to fight to the end.
NY Mary:
Yes, he would have had it rough, but it would be worse now. Much worse. After they thought they had it locked up, and the Dems could be flogged at will for the next four years?
Echidne may be right. This may be going through the motions. I don't know. We can't really know, until it plays out.
I guess we'll have to do what we can to show we are willing to fight to the end.
Wouldn't mind some of that there ham what I'm sure she cooked and all....
Wouldn't mind some of that there ham what I'm sure she cooked and all....
Incog -
Honestly, you do not need to take String into a car. I'm sorry, but that's a ridiculous idea. The little guy needs to adjust. Your first instinct was dead on about this. Unless he needs to go to a vet don't start dragging him around. It will really set him back and is not necessary.
Off to see The Incredibles and Finding Neverland! Happy day to Incog, String, John Kerry the Magnificent and everyone else!
Incog -
Honestly, you do not need to take String into a car. I'm sorry, but that's a ridiculous idea. The little guy needs to adjust. Your first instinct was dead on about this. Unless he needs to go to a vet don't start dragging him around. It will really set him back and is not necessary.
Off to see The Incredibles and Finding Neverland! Happy day to Incog, String, John Kerry the Magnificent and everyone else!
CS:
That's one of the things that's been going through my mind, too, about the other votes not properly tabulated. Kinda why I was vague with that line about how ALL of this will play out and the possibility it could go a lot of ways.
CS:
That's one of the things that's been going through my mind, too, about the other votes not properly tabulated. Kinda why I was vague with that line about how ALL of this will play out and the possibility it could go a lot of ways.
steve simels - Why don't you just share some of what you read over at Sully's, and that way we don't have to up his hit meter.
steve simels - Why don't you just share some of what you read over at Sully's, and that way we don't have to up his hit meter.
Getting ready to go to a christmas
party -- I suspect there will be
alcohol involved.
If I post anything totally incoherent
a few hours from now, please be
kind.
In any case, all the best to all of
you!!
Not eloquent, but heartfelt.
Getting ready to go to a christmas
party -- I suspect there will be
alcohol involved.
If I post anything totally incoherent
a few hours from now, please be
kind.
In any case, all the best to all of
you!!
Not eloquent, but heartfelt.
Horoscopes aren't a guilty pleasure. What they are is total bullshit....except when they're true.
Horoscopes aren't a guilty pleasure. What they are is total bullshit....except when they're true.
Tena--
Wow, we hadn't done an iChing reading for probably 20 years, but on election day, we did. We remember it being a very favorable outcome. How interesting that you did the iChing too. I don't usually make too much of these things, but I sure enjoy the concurrence.
Tena--
Wow, we hadn't done an iChing reading for probably 20 years, but on election day, we did. We remember it being a very favorable outcome. How interesting that you did the iChing too. I don't usually make too much of these things, but I sure enjoy the concurrence.
"Horoscopes aren't a guilty pleasure. What they are is total bullshit....except when they're true."
Most interestingly about horoscopes have been those from the English astrologers concerning the election. They are not the same as those coming from the US.
"Horoscopes aren't a guilty pleasure. What they are is total bullshit....except when they're true."
Most interestingly about horoscopes have been those from the English astrologers concerning the election. They are not the same as those coming from the US.
LJ - I agree that it could go in any number of ways. I'm not convinced, exactly. But I just can't help but think that Kerry wouldn't be getting involved if there wasn't something there that he thinks is important enough to put his dignity and pride on the line for.
LJ - I agree that it could go in any number of ways. I'm not convinced, exactly. But I just can't help but think that Kerry wouldn't be getting involved if there wasn't something there that he thinks is important enough to put his dignity and pride on the line for.
Tena:
the usual crap about the mystery of
faith, and the usual "I hope this
doesn't sound pretentious."
God, I hate Sullivan.
You, on the other hand, I love....
Tena:
the usual crap about the mystery of
faith, and the usual "I hope this
doesn't sound pretentious."
God, I hate Sullivan.
You, on the other hand, I love....
And NYMary - I'm listening to my Kazaa'ed copy of Genesis doing "Salisbury Hill"....
And NYMary - I'm listening to my Kazaa'ed copy of Genesis doing "Salisbury Hill"....
njpineygal - "Horoscopes aren't a guilty pleasure. What they are is total bullshit....except when they're true."
LOL - exactly the way I see it.
njpineygal - "Horoscopes aren't a guilty pleasure. What they are is total bullshit....except when they're true."
LOL - exactly the way I see it.
rd and i now think it was thirty years at least since either of us checked the i ching.
time slides by when yer having fun
rd and i now think it was thirty years at least since either of us checked the i ching.
time slides by when yer having fun
Hey Watertiger:
If you're out there I love you too.
Hey Watertiger:
If you're out there I love you too.
ΤΏΤ, ham is a very good thing. Bet you'd get a plate to take home too. Wish I had some.
ΤΏΤ, ham is a very good thing. Bet you'd get a plate to take home too. Wish I had some.
2 iron laws on Iraq:
1-George Bush aint leaving until the oil wells run dry.
2-The only Sunni's who will be part of the government the US intstalls will be 100% US approved Sunni's. "Uncle Sunni's," something like Uncle Toms.
3-An election held under the watch of an occupying army is suspicious. An election in an Arab country held under an American occupation ludicrous.
2 iron laws on Iraq:
1-George Bush aint leaving until the oil wells run dry.
2-The only Sunni's who will be part of the government the US intstalls will be 100% US approved Sunni's. "Uncle Sunni's," something like Uncle Toms.
3-An election held under the watch of an occupying army is suspicious. An election in an Arab country held under an American occupation ludicrous.
So what did the horoscopes predict for the 2004 election?
So what did the horoscopes predict for the 2004 election?
What they are is total bullshit....except when they're true.
A strange thing about astrology...
The less you believe in it, the MORE likely you are to fit the description for your Sun or Moon sign.
I remember a rant Carl Sagan had against astrology once. He was dissing it because people always guessed he was a Gemini, when in fact, he was a Scorpio. And these two signs are miles apart in personality and temperament. About as far as two signs can be.
Didn't take long to look up his Moon sign. You guessed it: GEMINI.
What they are is total bullshit....except when they're true.
A strange thing about astrology...
The less you believe in it, the MORE likely you are to fit the description for your Sun or Moon sign.
I remember a rant Carl Sagan had against astrology once. He was dissing it because people always guessed he was a Gemini, when in fact, he was a Scorpio. And these two signs are miles apart in personality and temperament. About as far as two signs can be.
Didn't take long to look up his Moon sign. You guessed it: GEMINI.
NJpine:
I don't know about Brit astrologers, but I know Indian astrologers leaned toward a Kerry win. Something about his Saturn progression.
NJpine:
I don't know about Brit astrologers, but I know Indian astrologers leaned toward a Kerry win. Something about his Saturn progression.
Rexroth's daughter - Me too - things like that interest me - synchronicity.
Somewhere I have the hexagrams still that I threw and the resulting treatises. It was basically step by step (I had one changing line) that first, nothing could be done because evidence needed to be gathered more or less quietly and the opponent was too strong. Then it developed, more people came to his side until there was a large number supporting him. Finally everything broke out into the open and good triumphed, basically.
And as for the right freaking out - if there is clear evidence that this election was rigged by the Repugs - fuck their getting pissed off - fuck them raw. I think it will piss off a lot of people.
Rexroth's daughter - Me too - things like that interest me - synchronicity.
Somewhere I have the hexagrams still that I threw and the resulting treatises. It was basically step by step (I had one changing line) that first, nothing could be done because evidence needed to be gathered more or less quietly and the opponent was too strong. Then it developed, more people came to his side until there was a large number supporting him. Finally everything broke out into the open and good triumphed, basically.
And as for the right freaking out - if there is clear evidence that this election was rigged by the Repugs - fuck their getting pissed off - fuck them raw. I think it will piss off a lot of people.
If Kerry unconcedes, I will be nice to my sister in law the idiot for the rest of my entire life. Could it be true?
If Kerry unconcedes, I will be nice to my sister in law the idiot for the rest of my entire life. Could it be true?
Ack! I'm a Scorpio too!
Gotta tidy a bit before dinner. Cheers, folks!
(though I may tune in later for steve's tipsy rambling, preparatory to experienceing it in person this week...)
Ack! I'm a Scorpio too!
Gotta tidy a bit before dinner. Cheers, folks!
(though I may tune in later for steve's tipsy rambling, preparatory to experienceing it in person this week...)
That was all the comments I was going to make but I was just walking to the kitchen and then back to the bathroom to soak in some hot water in the tub and String bolted out of the shadows and jumped almost eye-level to me with both paws outstretched. It startled me. It's dark so he's wigging.
That was all the comments I was going to make but I was just walking to the kitchen and then back to the bathroom to soak in some hot water in the tub and String bolted out of the shadows and jumped almost eye-level to me with both paws outstretched. It startled me. It's dark so he's wigging.
steve simels - and I love you, too.
Getting all religious over there, huh? Is Sully Catholic?
LJ - Damn that's funny about Sagan (who was very fond of himself.)
steve simels - and I love you, too.
Getting all religious over there, huh? Is Sully Catholic?
LJ - Damn that's funny about Sagan (who was very fond of himself.)
I don't remember which hexagram came up, just remember that it was very favorable. Between that and the exit polls, DPR and I were positively giddy when we took a walk, imagining R F Kennedy, jr as head of the EPA. Needless to say, we've put away that little box of hope in a very dark closet.
I don't remember which hexagram came up, just remember that it was very favorable. Between that and the exit polls, DPR and I were positively giddy when we took a walk, imagining R F Kennedy, jr as head of the EPA. Needless to say, we've put away that little box of hope in a very dark closet.
Hecate, me too - not your sister-in-law, mine, the one who decided that I wasn't nice enough to her and so uninvited me to my brother's wedding. Yes, I will.
Hecate, me too - not your sister-in-law, mine, the one who decided that I wasn't nice enough to her and so uninvited me to my brother's wedding. Yes, I will.
And since we're talking divintation, the Tarot kept telling me that Kerry would win the election right up until Nov. 2. On the morning of Nov. 3, I asked who would be president and I pulled the King of Swords, which I took to mean whoever was more determined would be president. I'd been assuming that was Bush, but it would be fascinating if it turned out to be Kerry. Also very big on strategy is the King of Swords.
And since we're talking divintation, the Tarot kept telling me that Kerry would win the election right up until Nov. 2. On the morning of Nov. 3, I asked who would be president and I pulled the King of Swords, which I took to mean whoever was more determined would be president. I'd been assuming that was Bush, but it would be fascinating if it turned out to be Kerry. Also very big on strategy is the King of Swords.
THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN continues to write columns as if he has no memory of his past writings or current history. Every column he writes seems to be that of a newborn babe who has just opened its eyes -
"We face two gigantic national challenges today: One is the challenge to protect America in the wake of the new terrorist threats, which has involved us in three huge military commitments - Afghanistan, Iraq and missile defense. And the other is the challenge to strengthen American competitiveness in the wake of an expanding global economy, where more and more good jobs require higher levels of education, and those good jobs will increasingly migrate to those countries with the brainpower to do them."
What has Iraq or missile defense got to do with "terrorist threats"? Not a thing, of course. When did Conservatives start caring about public education or public anything? They don't. This is a man that literally wouldn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN continues to write columns as if he has no memory of his past writings or current history. Every column he writes seems to be that of a newborn babe who has just opened its eyes -
"We face two gigantic national challenges today: One is the challenge to protect America in the wake of the new terrorist threats, which has involved us in three huge military commitments - Afghanistan, Iraq and missile defense. And the other is the challenge to strengthen American competitiveness in the wake of an expanding global economy, where more and more good jobs require higher levels of education, and those good jobs will increasingly migrate to those countries with the brainpower to do them."
What has Iraq or missile defense got to do with "terrorist threats"? Not a thing, of course. When did Conservatives start caring about public education or public anything? They don't. This is a man that literally wouldn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
GWPDA,
At my son's wedding, I told my sil to get the fuck away from me and stay the fuck away from me. And I was nice to my ex husband and his gay lover at the wedding, so you can imagine how I detest my sil. But I will apologize to her on my knees and listen sweetly to her insane self-involved drivel for the rest of my life if Kerry unconcedes. Swear to jebuz.
GWPDA,
At my son's wedding, I told my sil to get the fuck away from me and stay the fuck away from me. And I was nice to my ex husband and his gay lover at the wedding, so you can imagine how I detest my sil. But I will apologize to her on my knees and listen sweetly to her insane self-involved drivel for the rest of my life if Kerry unconcedes. Swear to jebuz.
Or, GWPDA, we could trade and I could be nice to your sil and you could be nice to mine. But I'm warning you she's a moron.
Or, GWPDA, we could trade and I could be nice to your sil and you could be nice to mine. But I'm warning you she's a moron.
f we can have a new President for Christmas instead, I'll see your iPod and raise you one iBook.
this is getting a little rich for my blood. Uh, I'll give up...shit, this is way I hated lent growing up!
f we can have a new President for Christmas instead, I'll see your iPod and raise you one iBook.
this is getting a little rich for my blood. Uh, I'll give up...shit, this is way I hated lent growing up!
Hecate - I'll send a holiday card to mine and use her silly-ass hyphenation gig, and never, ever, bring up the incredible lack of style involved of forcing my brother into paying for nonsense ritualised 'country club' events for children who will, ALMOST CERTAINLY within the next 4-6 years end up on my doorstep explaining why it would be a good thing for me to put them up whilst they attend a cheap college in my state. I will even try, very, very hard to forget the fact that she tried to acquire the items left to me by my mother; including the furniture I was then (and still am) using. Also the family jewels.
Swear to the Lord God Almighty, cross my heart and spit.
Hecate - I'll send a holiday card to mine and use her silly-ass hyphenation gig, and never, ever, bring up the incredible lack of style involved of forcing my brother into paying for nonsense ritualised 'country club' events for children who will, ALMOST CERTAINLY within the next 4-6 years end up on my doorstep explaining why it would be a good thing for me to put them up whilst they attend a cheap college in my state. I will even try, very, very hard to forget the fact that she tried to acquire the items left to me by my mother; including the furniture I was then (and still am) using. Also the family jewels.
Swear to the Lord God Almighty, cross my heart and spit.
LJ - Damn that's funny about Sagan (who was very fond of himself.)
I did the research myself on him. Hee hee. And what Scorpio man ISN'T fond of himself? I know. I've been on collision courses with about half of the straight Scorpio men on this planet.
Also very big on strategy is the King of Swords.
Well, strategy implies the ability to think. So that rules out Bush. Unless you're realistic enough to think that Rove or Cheney is really President. In that case, Bunnypants gets to keep hopping around the WH Rose Garden.
LJ - Damn that's funny about Sagan (who was very fond of himself.)
I did the research myself on him. Hee hee. And what Scorpio man ISN'T fond of himself? I know. I've been on collision courses with about half of the straight Scorpio men on this planet.
Also very big on strategy is the King of Swords.
Well, strategy implies the ability to think. So that rules out Bush. Unless you're realistic enough to think that Rove or Cheney is really President. In that case, Bunnypants gets to keep hopping around the WH Rose Garden.
Hecate - That is fascinating.
I'd love to have a reading some time.
Hecate - That is fascinating.
I'd love to have a reading some time.
Hecate, since mine is in Connecticut it might be more convenient, but then you'd also have to deal with my brother (see above, viz Guinier) and I'm not sure that that's fair one bit.
Hecate, since mine is in Connecticut it might be more convenient, but then you'd also have to deal with my brother (see above, viz Guinier) and I'm not sure that that's fair one bit.
Tarot cards? I Ching? Horoscopes? Bargaining with god for your sils and the election? This sounds more like new age California than anything reality-based. Just saying.....
Tarot cards? I Ching? Horoscopes? Bargaining with god for your sils and the election? This sounds more like new age California than anything reality-based. Just saying.....
LJ - oh god, let's not get started on scorpio men. They are dangerous.
LJ - oh god, let's not get started on scorpio men. They are dangerous.
So what did the horoscopes predict for the 2004 election?
Well, I'm not too proud of it, but I'm a novice anyway.
So what did the horoscopes predict for the 2004 election?
Well, I'm not too proud of it, but I'm a novice anyway.
Spinoza - Oh lighten up, for pete's sake. It's christmas night. we're lucky to be vertical and coherent.
Spinoza - Oh lighten up, for pete's sake. It's christmas night. we're lucky to be vertical and coherent.
I will even try, very, very hard to forget the fact that she tried to acquire the items left to me by my mother; including the furniture I was then (and still am) using. Also the family jewels.
GWP:
I believe you. One of my cousins told her father that she wanted her share of her inheritance now, thanks much. Um... Dear old Dad isn't even pushing daisies yet, nowhere near it (too mean to die).
My brother is raising a shit fit that my mother's current husband will get part of her estate when she's dead. Not even the 50% that Texas probate would give him. My mother's leaving my stepdad 25%. But that's not enough. Then he got mad because my mother realized that I might not know money very well, but I had good sense--I needed to be executor (executrix? ooh, sounds kinky!) of her will. I also have medical powers of attorney and all that for her. She doesn't trust him not to pull the plug on her if she doesn't wake up from surgery five minutes out of the operating room. Seriously.
I'm already prepared for him to go fucking nuts when my Mom dies. He won't be happy until he gets everything. Typical wingnut.
I will even try, very, very hard to forget the fact that she tried to acquire the items left to me by my mother; including the furniture I was then (and still am) using. Also the family jewels.
GWP:
I believe you. One of my cousins told her father that she wanted her share of her inheritance now, thanks much. Um... Dear old Dad isn't even pushing daisies yet, nowhere near it (too mean to die).
My brother is raising a shit fit that my mother's current husband will get part of her estate when she's dead. Not even the 50% that Texas probate would give him. My mother's leaving my stepdad 25%. But that's not enough. Then he got mad because my mother realized that I might not know money very well, but I had good sense--I needed to be executor (executrix? ooh, sounds kinky!) of her will. I also have medical powers of attorney and all that for her. She doesn't trust him not to pull the plug on her if she doesn't wake up from surgery five minutes out of the operating room. Seriously.
I'm already prepared for him to go fucking nuts when my Mom dies. He won't be happy until he gets everything. Typical wingnut.
And what Scorpio man ISN'T fond of himself?
You say that like it's a bad thing. 
I've been on collision courses with about half of the straight Scorpio men on this planet.
Does that include the internets?
And what Scorpio man ISN'T fond of himself?
You say that like it's a bad thing.
I've been on collision courses with about half of the straight Scorpio men on this planet.
Does that include the internets?
weblackey - I think you posted a link to your prediction back in October - I remember reading it. I thought "oh god no, not again." I wanted a clear win. Now I'm thinking "yes, god, please, yes."
weblackey - I think you posted a link to your prediction back in October - I remember reading it. I thought "oh god no, not again." I wanted a clear win. Now I'm thinking "yes, god, please, yes."
Tena,
I'll be glad to do a new year's reading for you. Have a new spread I'm itching to try out.
Tena,
I'll be glad to do a new year's reading for you. Have a new spread I'm itching to try out.
I do know that, if it goes Kerry's way, JFK part II will face a rightwing counterattack that made Clinton's admin seem like Hobbiton on Xanax.
It'll be ugly, folks. Very, very ugly...
I don't give a FUCK. Let 'em bring it!
I do know that, if it goes Kerry's way, JFK part II will face a rightwing counterattack that made Clinton's admin seem like Hobbiton on Xanax.
It'll be ugly, folks. Very, very ugly...
I don't give a FUCK. Let 'em bring it!
CS:
That's in real life. But the internet has the Scorpios still flapping around. And Libra men are my albatross. I'll get through all of them eventually, I'm sure.
CS:
That's in real life. But the internet has the Scorpios still flapping around. And Libra men are my albatross. I'll get through all of them eventually, I'm sure.
LJ - well, my dear sister-in-law was entirely unaware of the family history in these things. You see, on the nice, kind Oklahoma side, her scare tactics might have worked. But on the side derived from my 7th generation Irish Canadian Grandmama, and the Grandfather who not only, with his brothers, ran from the Prussian draft circa 1890, only to encounter the possibility of a Canadian draft in 1914, which caused him to first marry Grandmama and then run like hell even farther west, and then, ultimately cut out all his brothers from any kind of inheritance, and pass -that- legacy to his four sons, none of whom spoke to one another after the Old Man died because of the will - that is for 25 years.... well, let's just say her tactics were less than effective. The answer is, get an estimate of the value, pay it off half to the relative, explain that they'll get nothing out of you and tell them to go to hell. Works well.
The only problem is that now, my first cousin once removed is discovered to be a nice chap who owns most of the Cinnabon stores here in Phoenix and I can't figure a way to connect, thus depriving me of a real bennie.
And Spinoza - I would bargain with a great deal more malevolent spirits than Hecate's sister-in-law if it gained me John Kerry as president. And I, as an old Celt, know an awful lot of ways to open those discussions, tho they may imperil that which I would as soon not risk without cause.
LJ - well, my dear sister-in-law was entirely unaware of the family history in these things. You see, on the nice, kind Oklahoma side, her scare tactics might have worked. But on the side derived from my 7th generation Irish Canadian Grandmama, and the Grandfather who not only, with his brothers, ran from the Prussian draft circa 1890, only to encounter the possibility of a Canadian draft in 1914, which caused him to first marry Grandmama and then run like hell even farther west, and then, ultimately cut out all his brothers from any kind of inheritance, and pass -that- legacy to his four sons, none of whom spoke to one another after the Old Man died because of the will - that is for 25 years.... well, let's just say her tactics were less than effective. The answer is, get an estimate of the value, pay it off half to the relative, explain that they'll get nothing out of you and tell them to go to hell. Works well.
The only problem is that now, my first cousin once removed is discovered to be a nice chap who owns most of the Cinnabon stores here in Phoenix and I can't figure a way to connect, thus depriving me of a real bennie.
And Spinoza - I would bargain with a great deal more malevolent spirits than Hecate's sister-in-law if it gained me John Kerry as president. And I, as an old Celt, know an awful lot of ways to open those discussions, tho they may imperil that which I would as soon not risk without cause.
Bob and I have always used sesame seed oil for our erotic bang bangs. But last night, finding we had none, Bob used a multiweight Pennzoil 15-45. Damn. When Bob shiftged his pencil gear from low into high, I had a viscosity number the other side of santorum. And the neat thing is if I don't shower I can get 3000 miles on a quart!
Bob and I have always used sesame seed oil for our erotic bang bangs. But last night, finding we had none, Bob used a multiweight Pennzoil 15-45. Damn. When Bob shiftged his pencil gear from low into high, I had a viscosity number the other side of santorum. And the neat thing is if I don't shower I can get 3000 miles on a quart!
GWPDA,
My sil only married my brother for what she thinks they'll inherit when my mom dies. She's as vain and shallow and vapid as anyone I've ever met. I mostly stay away from her if I can swing it.
I almost don't care if he prevails or not, but I would so love for Kerry to unconcede and make Bush sweat. The wingnut howling would be music to my ears.
GWPDA,
My sil only married my brother for what she thinks they'll inherit when my mom dies. She's as vain and shallow and vapid as anyone I've ever met. I mostly stay away from her if I can swing it.
I almost don't care if he prevails or not, but I would so love for Kerry to unconcede and make Bush sweat. The wingnut howling would be music to my ears.
Tena--
Have you ever "thrown" the iChing using yarrow sticks instead of coins? We have lots of yarrow growing in our yard, if you'd like to try that way. We'd be happy to send you 50 sticks.
Tena--
Have you ever "thrown" the iChing using yarrow sticks instead of coins? We have lots of yarrow growing in our yard, if you'd like to try that way. We'd be happy to send you 50 sticks.
And it's okay for Scorp men to be fond of themselves. Part of their appeal. Makes it easier to deal with them, in some ways. They're so busy loving themselves, you don't have to do it for them. Just let them control your life a bit when they deigned to notice you. Which usually left me free to deal with all those pesky Libras.
And it's okay for Scorp men to be fond of themselves. Part of their appeal. Makes it easier to deal with them, in some ways. They're so busy loving themselves, you don't have to do it for them. Just let them control your life a bit when they deigned to notice you. Which usually left me free to deal with all those pesky Libras.
Hecate - Just be careful, macushla.
Hecate - Just be careful, macushla.
My son is a Scorpio, but in him it shows up more in the "still waters running deep" way than in him loving himself too much. Just don't ever expect to know what's REALLY going on inside down there; Scorpios think that revealing that gives away too much power. It made for a very "interesting" adolesence, I can tell you.
My son is a Scorpio, but in him it shows up more in the "still waters running deep" way than in him loving himself too much. Just don't ever expect to know what's REALLY going on inside down there; Scorpios think that revealing that gives away too much power. It made for a very "interesting" adolesence, I can tell you.
Hecate - Oh I'd love that. Tell me what to do.
Hecate - Oh I'd love that. Tell me what to do.
Tena
Yep, I was just making crap up. I only posted it since it sort of followed the astrology line.
Hecate:
Can you do tarrot readings over the net? What deck do you use? I started with the motherpeace but later tried the voyager deck. No divination here though, just meditative reflection.
Tena
Yep, I was just making crap up. I only posted it since it sort of followed the astrology line.
Hecate:
Can you do tarrot readings over the net? What deck do you use? I started with the motherpeace but later tried the voyager deck. No divination here though, just meditative reflection.
Spinoz---i call it newage, rhymes with sewage.
rd and i left california 6 mos ago, far out santa cruz at that. i guess some is trailing after us like tp on our shoes.
Spinoz---i call it newage, rhymes with sewage.
rd and i left california 6 mos ago, far out santa cruz at that. i guess some is trailing after us like tp on our shoes.
Man, it's fun to see the regulars start to drift back into the discussion after their various activities today. I love this place. And now we're talking about taking back the country. It must have been the eggnog, fortified with whatever (my preference is cognac and rum). Party!!!!
Man, it's fun to see the regulars start to drift back into the discussion after their various activities today. I love this place. And now we're talking about taking back the country. It must have been the eggnog, fortified with whatever (my preference is cognac and rum). Party!!!!
Strom has a wart on his pencil dick that resembled a buckyball.
-Liddy Dole
Strom has a wart on his pencil dick that resembled a buckyball.
-Liddy Dole
Hecate - It must have been and interesting adolescence. I've often thought that scorpios speak a separate language that only other scorpios understand.
Hecate - It must have been and interesting adolescence. I've often thought that scorpios speak a separate language that only other scorpios understand.
well, old white lady, kerry is a fighter.
however if we get a domino effect, and other key states were shown to have been stolen too, a certainty!, then we will have a crisis!
the republicans will not give up the presidency! they will not!
if bush loses the needed electoral votes to elect him president, then the republicans will use some kind of emergency methods to make bush president.
but they will not give up the presidency.
that said, i hope that kerry goes through with this. we need to get this out into the open. could be an interesting 2005.
well, old white lady, kerry is a fighter.
however if we get a domino effect, and other key states were shown to have been stolen too, a certainty!, then we will have a crisis!
the republicans will not give up the presidency! they will not!
if bush loses the needed electoral votes to elect him president, then the republicans will use some kind of emergency methods to make bush president.
but they will not give up the presidency.
that said, i hope that kerry goes through with this. we need to get this out into the open. could be an interesting 2005.
Oh, and earlier upthread someone asked if Colin Farrell is overrated. Yeah, so what? I'd still do him.
Oh, and earlier upthread someone asked if Colin Farrell is overrated. Yeah, so what? I'd still do him.
Did anyone think to get a present for the ferret?
Did anyone think to get a present for the ferret?
weblackey,
I'm happy to do readings over the net. I use the Robin Wood deck, which is a variation on the standard Rider Waite. Motherpeace is a beautiful deck, but I've never read with it.
weblackey,
I'm happy to do readings over the net. I use the Robin Wood deck, which is a variation on the standard Rider Waite. Motherpeace is a beautiful deck, but I've never read with it.
ΤΏΤ - Sweetheart, you talk to your Mum?
You know, right about now, I wish very much I could still talk to mine. My Grandmama too. I surely liked cooking with all of them, and knowing how things were supposed to be.
The other day I was devilling around in a drawer in my Grandmama's secretary, thinking I should clean it out and put things right. In it I found a clutch of letters from my Grandmama's Aunt Inez, sometime around 1960, about five years or so before Ine died - I believe she was born about 1875, up the road from the James boys, and she lived a fine, long life. One of the letters tho made me laugh - she was reporting on the produce she'd put up that year, along with the activities of her no-good son Edgar (who would have been around 65 or so), and as well on her acquisition of her new puppy, Brownie. This is a lady of nearly 90, telling my Grandmama how Brownie had gotten away from her and she'd had to run down the lane to bring him back.
I read it to Arthur and he appreciated it very much. Me too.
Call your Mum.
ΤΏΤ - Sweetheart, you talk to your Mum?
You know, right about now, I wish very much I could still talk to mine. My Grandmama too. I surely liked cooking with all of them, and knowing how things were supposed to be.
The other day I was devilling around in a drawer in my Grandmama's secretary, thinking I should clean it out and put things right. In it I found a clutch of letters from my Grandmama's Aunt Inez, sometime around 1960, about five years or so before Ine died - I believe she was born about 1875, up the road from the James boys, and she lived a fine, long life. One of the letters tho made me laugh - she was reporting on the produce she'd put up that year, along with the activities of her no-good son Edgar (who would have been around 65 or so), and as well on her acquisition of her new puppy, Brownie. This is a lady of nearly 90, telling my Grandmama how Brownie had gotten away from her and she'd had to run down the lane to bring him back.
I read it to Arthur and he appreciated it very much. Me too.
Call your Mum.
dread pirate roberts - one man's sewage is another man's fertilizer.
dread pirate roberts - one man's sewage is another man's fertilizer.
Tena,
I'll email you tomorrow with a new year's reading. If you have or can get a deck, either Robin Wood or Rider Waite, it will make it easier for you to see what I'm talking about.
weblackey, Let me know and I'll email you one, too.
Tena,
I'll email you tomorrow with a new year's reading. If you have or can get a deck, either Robin Wood or Rider Waite, it will make it easier for you to see what I'm talking about.
weblackey, Let me know and I'll email you one, too.
oh, i forgot to say that if this happens i will put my kerry for president button back on. i have saved it.
and if it is proven that kerry won but bush takes office again, i will get a bumpersticker that says "john kerry is my president". maybe dave could print these up.
oh, i forgot to say that if this happens i will put my kerry for president button back on. i have saved it.
and if it is proven that kerry won but bush takes office again, i will get a bumpersticker that says "john kerry is my president". maybe dave could print these up.
"Scorpios think that revealing that gives away too much power."
Excuse me, but Friedman of the Times now officially has more sense than you. Either we are people who make decisions rationally, or we're just another lesser version of the wingnuts. Reading the comments, maybe it's time for another party lead by someone who isn't named Ralph and who isn't afraid to challenge the opposition.
"Scorpios think that revealing that gives away too much power."
Excuse me, but Friedman of the Times now officially has more sense than you. Either we are people who make decisions rationally, or we're just another lesser version of the wingnuts. Reading the comments, maybe it's time for another party lead by someone who isn't named Ralph and who isn't afraid to challenge the opposition.
Hecate - Just be careful, macushla.
gwpda--thank you so much for reminding me of one of the two great dogs in my life. macushla is long gone but not ever forgotten. black lab. a sweety, but very sneaky. and to the death a stick dog. she would put a used cardboard match on anyones seated knee and fetch it.
Hecate - Just be careful, macushla.
gwpda--thank you so much for reminding me of one of the two great dogs in my life. macushla is long gone but not ever forgotten. black lab. a sweety, but very sneaky. and to the death a stick dog. she would put a used cardboard match on anyones seated knee and fetch it.
hecate - how do you want to do this reading?
hecate - how do you want to do this reading?
Just don't ever expect to know what's REALLY going on inside down there; Scorpios think that revealing that gives away too much power.
Funny... They're almost like open books to me, so I always had lots of fun with them, to their eternal consternation.
Ah, sweet memories of torture...
Just don't ever expect to know what's REALLY going on inside down there; Scorpios think that revealing that gives away too much power.
Funny... They're almost like open books to me, so I always had lots of fun with them, to their eternal consternation.
Ah, sweet memories of torture...
Hecate - crossed posts. Thanks - I look forward to it very much.
Hecate - crossed posts. Thanks - I look forward to it very much.
John - we are multitudinous - some of 'us' are sensible, some of 'us' are not, but very, very, very few of us are wicked, and none of 'us' are idiots. Don't underestimate the sincerity of the hopeful.
John - we are multitudinous - some of 'us' are sensible, some of 'us' are not, but very, very, very few of us are wicked, and none of 'us' are idiots. Don't underestimate the sincerity of the hopeful.
John,
Who pissed in your eggnog? There are more things in heaven and earth, Horation, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
John,
Who pissed in your eggnog? There are more things in heaven and earth, Horation, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
King of Swords: the Devil that is Death, the Executioner.
Generally, a nasty card.
King of Swords: the Devil that is Death, the Executioner.
Generally, a nasty card.
GWPDA-
Thanks for sharing parts of that letter with us here too. Letters from family are very few these days. We use email, and mostly that works just fine, but when I think of the future, I realize that none of my nieces or nephews are going to be holding any letters in their hands from their dear old auntie.
GWPDA-
Thanks for sharing parts of that letter with us here too. Letters from family are very few these days. We use email, and mostly that works just fine, but when I think of the future, I realize that none of my nieces or nephews are going to be holding any letters in their hands from their dear old auntie.
Oh get over yourself, John.
It's harmless fun.
Oh get over yourself, John.
It's harmless fun.
With the Bush admninistration in charge of bringing Democracy to Iraq, why in hell would anyone expect anything but fixed elections. Bush doesn't know any other way.
Whatever made anyone think that Conservatives could liberate anyone? If there is liberating to be done, leave it to Liberals.
With the Bush admninistration in charge of bringing Democracy to Iraq, why in hell would anyone expect anything but fixed elections. Bush doesn't know any other way.
Whatever made anyone think that Conservatives could liberate anyone? If there is liberating to be done, leave it to Liberals.
hey all, Happy Xmas evening. I am about an hour behind
hey all, Happy Xmas evening. I am about an hour behind
dread pirate roberts - macushla - 'darling blood of my heart' in the gaelic - and the Irish were always sentimental and bloodthirsty and bloodyminded all at the same time. A good doggie to carry all that.
dread pirate roberts - macushla - 'darling blood of my heart' in the gaelic - and the Irish were always sentimental and bloodthirsty and bloodyminded all at the same time. A good doggie to carry all that.
tena---just a way to get the pronunciation. i am a cynical sort at times, but i am still and always in awe of the mystery of it all. and there were a few folks who overdid the new age in santa cruz.
tena---just a way to get the pronunciation. i am a cynical sort at times, but i am still and always in awe of the mystery of it all. and there were a few folks who overdid the new age in santa cruz.
John
Merry Christmas.
Get a real life, darling.
John
Merry Christmas.
Get a real life, darling.
Hecate 8:04 pm
My favorite line of shakespeare.
Hecate 8:04 pm
My favorite line of shakespeare.
John needs to read Lolly Willowes.
John needs to read Lolly Willowes.
Elaine,
That's interesting; I don't interpret the King of Swords that way. He's a very determined man who's willing to fight for what he wants and is not too smart about knowing when to give in, but he's generally quite bright and able to use tactics to gain what he wants. But it depends a lot on the cards that show up around him, as all the cards do, I guess. I associated the swords with air, East, thought, communication. What deck do you use?
Elaine,
That's interesting; I don't interpret the King of Swords that way. He's a very determined man who's willing to fight for what he wants and is not too smart about knowing when to give in, but he's generally quite bright and able to use tactics to gain what he wants. But it depends a lot on the cards that show up around him, as all the cards do, I guess. I associated the swords with air, East, thought, communication. What deck do you use?
Or Evangeline Adams
Or Evangeline Adams
I base my beliefs on science, I'm a proud member of the reality based community, remember?
I base my beliefs on science, I'm a proud member of the reality based community, remember?
Rexroth's Daughter,
I realize that none of my nieces or nephews are going to be holding any letters in their hands from their dear old auntie.
Do you keep a journal? I have several that I've kept over the years filled with sketches and contemplations of my reality.
Rexroth's Daughter,
I realize that none of my nieces or nephews are going to be holding any letters in their hands from their dear old auntie.
Do you keep a journal? I have several that I've kept over the years filled with sketches and contemplations of my reality.
I base my beliefs on science, I'm a proud member of the reality based community, remember?
Period after science.
And no, I don't remember you.
I base my beliefs on science, I'm a proud member of the reality based community, remember?
Period after science.
And no, I don't remember you.
John, might become a born again Christian wingnut before he believes in astrology, but that's doubtful since he believes in science not fiction.
John, might become a born again Christian wingnut before he believes in astrology, but that's doubtful since he believes in science not fiction.
Hey Pie! - Woo hoo! Nice to see you. I hope you have been having a lovely holiday.
Hey Pie! - Woo hoo! Nice to see