I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
That was dumb.
That was dumb.
It may have been dumb, but with this administration is may also become true. I noticed that nowhere in the coming six months does Ann "the man" Coulter eat a sandwich. The muscles must be in atrophied state at this point.
It may have been dumb, but with this administration is may also become true. I noticed that nowhere in the coming six months does Ann "the man" Coulter eat a sandwich. The muscles must be in atrophied state at this point.
Wow. Rep. Boyd must be getting lonely being all alone up there.
Wow. Rep. Boyd must be getting lonely being all alone up there.
Just plugging today's cartoon one last time.
The Real Gorilla
Please stop by and let me know what you think.
That is all.
Just plugging today's cartoon one last time.
The Real Gorilla
Please stop by and let me know what you think.
That is all.
Being the minority party, and a dwindling minorty party at that, must be very painful.
Being the minority party, and a dwindling minorty party at that, must be very painful.
OT: Haven't been reading much since the election and subsequent bout of depression but dropped by to wish everyone a Happy New Year ..... and thanks to Atrios for providing such fine digs in which to commiserate, rant, etc.
OT: Haven't been reading much since the election and subsequent bout of depression but dropped by to wish everyone a Happy New Year ..... and thanks to Atrios for providing such fine digs in which to commiserate, rant, etc.
Gee, early troll infestation.
It was damn clever, well done Vaara.
Gee, early troll infestation.
It was damn clever, well done Vaara.
I never thought I'd be quoting Huey
Lewis, but
I definitely need a new drug.
I never thought I'd be quoting Huey
Lewis, but
I definitely need a new drug.
The stadium is empty and they're still doing their end-zone dance. Pathetic.
The stadium is empty and they're still doing their end-zone dance. Pathetic.
CNN: Raising the bar for Hacktakularism.
http://tinyurl.com/6jdrg
CNN: Raising the bar for Hacktakularism.
http://tinyurl.com/6jdrg
Gas on embers but wdf...it was right at the end. We are the good Germans circa 1938-1939. I am not saying we all could or should have done more; maybe the forces arrayed against us were always too much. Maybe not. It's moot now.
But make sure to scream insults at the people who mention the tornado bearing down on Auntie Em's farm....
When masturbation is all we have, we may as well.
I always get this way around the holidays, but this year the world seems to be in my dark little corner. Seek pleasure and hold your loved ones tight while you still can.
Skaal!
Gas on embers but wdf...it was right at the end. We are the good Germans circa 1938-1939. I am not saying we all could or should have done more; maybe the forces arrayed against us were always too much. Maybe not. It's moot now.
But make sure to scream insults at the people who mention the tornado bearing down on Auntie Em's farm....
When masturbation is all we have, we may as well.
I always get this way around the holidays, but this year the world seems to be in my dark little corner. Seek pleasure and hold your loved ones tight while you still can.
Skaal!
Sounds like the past six months.
Sounds like the past six months.
UBH FOAD
You can't handle the truth.
UBH FOAD
You can't handle the truth.
He left out the rose petals, and singing songs about us for thousands of years.
He left out the rose petals, and singing songs about us for thousands of years.
Hey Robert:
Your blog sucks.
Hey Robert:
Your blog sucks.
Good piece - shame about the trolls it attracted. I don't know if O'Reilly would care as much about the Jewish babies as the Christian ones, but he may yet surprise me.
OT - good comic, Matt! I especially liked how you worked in "hard work"!
Good piece - shame about the trolls it attracted. I don't know if O'Reilly would care as much about the Jewish babies as the Christian ones, but he may yet surprise me.
OT - good comic, Matt! I especially liked how you worked in "hard work"!
I'd extend that to 4 years, but I'm afraid it'll be worse to wake up suddenly to the aftermath then just ease into it gradually.
I'd extend that to 4 years, but I'm afraid it'll be worse to wake up suddenly to the aftermath then just ease into it gradually.
I've done the second six months too.
God™ bless™ the Leading Bloggers™!
I've done the second six months too.
God™ bless™ the Leading Bloggers™!
I agree, it was dumb. It has no mention of the $350 million in aide Bush has approved for tsunami relief. Or that Bush kept his promise that the $35 million pledge "is only the beginning of our help."
I agree, it was dumb. It has no mention of the $350 million in aide Bush has approved for tsunami relief. Or that Bush kept his promise that the $35 million pledge "is only the beginning of our help."
If only we still had someone we could work with over there, like that nice Mr. Suharto, none of this would have been necessary.
If only we still had someone we could work with over there, like that nice Mr. Suharto, none of this would have been necessary.
Man! That guy is good. I want to know where he got his crystal ball. He did leave out notJenna going to Africa to save aids babies and Jenna getting preggers by one of her charter school students. And the woman who admits to the affair with Racist Radical Cleric Dobson and has the cashed blackmail checks to prove it. Oh, and the terrorist attack somewhere in the heartland. But otherwise, yup, he's got it.
I wonder if that $35 mil is like the Mars effort. That was also announced to great fanfare.
Talk is cheap. Bush is good at talk.
Man! That guy is good. I want to know where he got his crystal ball. He did leave out notJenna going to Africa to save aids babies and Jenna getting preggers by one of her charter school students. And the woman who admits to the affair with Racist Radical Cleric Dobson and has the cashed blackmail checks to prove it. Oh, and the terrorist attack somewhere in the heartland. But otherwise, yup, he's got it.
I wonder if that $35 mil is like the Mars effort. That was also announced to great fanfare.
Talk is cheap. Bush is good at talk.
Schwa(ntz)
Too bad he had to be shamed into it.
Schwa(ntz)
Too bad he had to be shamed into it.
did anyone else see the raw polls from 11/2? If not, here they are.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/p...ofsky4zonedata/
did anyone else see the raw polls from 11/2? If not, here they are.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/p...ofsky4zonedata/
Sorry 'bout that. Raw exit polls from 11/2 US election.
enjoy.
http://tinyurl.com/499ah
Sorry 'bout that. Raw exit polls from 11/2 US election.
enjoy.
http://tinyurl.com/499ah
Figures the trolls don't quite get what Vaara is driving at. Or maybe they do and can only react with aggressive ignorance.
Figures the trolls don't quite get what Vaara is driving at. Or maybe they do and can only react with aggressive ignorance.
get'cher red hot election exit polls here! 
http://tinyurl.com/499ah
get'cher red hot election exit polls here!
http://tinyurl.com/499ah
Oh, and, sometime in the next six months a pretty, pregnant, middle-class woman will be murdered, there will be a tv trial, and American will plop down on the lounger with beer and popcorn and go to sleep. Just sayin'
Oh, and, sometime in the next six months a pretty, pregnant, middle-class woman will be murdered, there will be a tv trial, and American will plop down on the lounger with beer and popcorn and go to sleep. Just sayin'
Remember when the calendar turned from '1999' to '2000', and it seemed like the whole world looked ahead with hope and anticipation for the utopian wonders the future would hold?
So here we are now, five years later.
Jeezus, what a comedown.
Remember when the calendar turned from '1999' to '2000', and it seemed like the whole world looked ahead with hope and anticipation for the utopian wonders the future would hold?
So here we are now, five years later.
Jeezus, what a comedown.
"Or that Bush kept his promise that the $35 million pledge "is only the beginning of our help."
Schwa?"
Ah, those Bush promises. Remember the Millennium Challenge Accounts for Africa proposed by Bush in 2004 with great fanfare?
Well, so far, not one dollar has been produced. Not one.
"Or that Bush kept his promise that the $35 million pledge "is only the beginning of our help."
Schwa?"
Ah, those Bush promises. Remember the Millennium Challenge Accounts for Africa proposed by Bush in 2004 with great fanfare?
Well, so far, not one dollar has been produced. Not one.
Error: should be 'proposed by Bush in 2002'.
Error: should be 'proposed by Bush in 2002'.
New Years' Eve, Rome
Berlusconi struck with a camera tripod and is hospitalized for contusions to the head and neck.
New Years' Eve, Rome
Berlusconi struck with a camera tripod and is hospitalized for contusions to the head and neck.
Earth to idiots:
Anything Bush or anybody who works for
him says is a lie.
By definition.
Earth to idiots:
Anything Bush or anybody who works for
him says is a lie.
By definition.
Yeah, talk is cheap, for Bush, but always expensive for the rest of us. Promises, promises. The only one he's kept in 4 years is to lower taxes on those who need "tax relief" the least, and who should be happy to pony up for all of the government largess that made their fortunes possible, but this is a crowd that tips 1% after the check is comped for them. They have no shame, no morals, and they're in the minority, as will become clear sooner than later. That's why they're still screaming the victimzation scream even after they were successful in stealing 3 elections in a row; they're scared to death that they will be found out, and they are right. They should be very afraid; they are going to lose everything.
Yeah, talk is cheap, for Bush, but always expensive for the rest of us. Promises, promises. The only one he's kept in 4 years is to lower taxes on those who need "tax relief" the least, and who should be happy to pony up for all of the government largess that made their fortunes possible, but this is a crowd that tips 1% after the check is comped for them. They have no shame, no morals, and they're in the minority, as will become clear sooner than later. That's why they're still screaming the victimzation scream even after they were successful in stealing 3 elections in a row; they're scared to death that they will be found out, and they are right. They should be very afraid; they are going to lose everything.
It takes a Right Wing and a Left Wing to fly. Without both, we fly in a circle.
Now that the American Eagle flies with but one wing, it's Right, it will slowly spiral down in a sad decent into nothingness.
There is no hope.
It takes a Right Wing and a Left Wing to fly. Without both, we fly in a circle.
Now that the American Eagle flies with but one wing, it's Right, it will slowly spiral down in a sad decent into nothingness.
There is no hope.
That is all.
Matt
I'da liked it better if it were obvious that the boy-emperor was actually playing in the shit...
picky-picky, i know... but at least you got a hit...
That is all.
Matt
I'da liked it better if it were obvious that the boy-emperor was actually playing in the shit...
picky-picky, i know... but at least you got a hit...
Ronjazz:
I only hope its in my lifetime.
Ronjazz:
I only hope its in my lifetime.
Berlusconi struck with a camera tripod and is hospitalized for contusions to the head and neck.
nur al-cubicle
Best news of the day...give us a link, so we may gloat outrageously, please...
Berlusconi struck with a camera tripod and is hospitalized for contusions to the head and neck.
nur al-cubicle
Best news of the day...give us a link, so we may gloat outrageously, please...
Oh, and Robert, another vote for your site sucks. Although now you have 2 hits.
Oh, and Robert, another vote for your site sucks. Although now you have 2 hits.
So, the 12/21 Gallup has Bush at 49% approve, 46% disapprove, and I'm guessing this tsunami thing is swinging anyone in his favor.
Has any president ever gone into a second term with such weak numbers?
.
So, the 12/21 Gallup has Bush at 49% approve, 46% disapprove, and I'm guessing this tsunami thing is swinging anyone in his favor.
Has any president ever gone into a second term with such weak numbers?
.
The question for this bloggerito this coming year is, "Has Duncan Black become the Al Sharpton of the computer literate left?"
While limousining to Air America gigs and the like, is their enough smarmy suffering left for Atrios to broadcast?
The reason I say that is, why in RMJ's god name would Duncan publish that Fred Phelps piece? Why give that asshole airtime?
And anybody, anybody, who has the gall to politicize the Asian crisis is not fit to pull an oar on the good ship humanity.
Some people do things, others just sit back and whine!
Go ask Al!
The question for this bloggerito this coming year is, "Has Duncan Black become the Al Sharpton of the computer literate left?"
While limousining to Air America gigs and the like, is their enough smarmy suffering left for Atrios to broadcast?
The reason I say that is, why in RMJ's god name would Duncan publish that Fred Phelps piece? Why give that asshole airtime?
And anybody, anybody, who has the gall to politicize the Asian crisis is not fit to pull an oar on the good ship humanity.
Some people do things, others just sit back and whine!
Go ask Al!
air america has limousines?
air america has limousines?
Bush sucks the serrated shaft of satan.
Bush sucks the serrated shaft of satan.
Wow, RBO, most people who are jealous of others' success do a better job of hiding it than you do. Just sayin'
Wow, RBO, most people who are jealous of others' success do a better job of hiding it than you do. Just sayin'
air america has limousines?
Oh heck yeah. Doesn't every AM radio start-up have swanky rides?
air america has limousines?
Oh heck yeah. Doesn't every AM radio start-up have swanky rides?
vaara? my eight year old could have been pithier!
C'mon peeps, see the vein on the leaf for teh forest for the trees!
My houseguest today, a local shrink, just read Vaara' piece and said. "Sufferers." I said, "what? and he said, "looks alike a blog where "sufferers congregate" To share thier shadenfreude and moan and piss and whine without any effect excpet to paint the ugly picture of life that certain people, sufferers, thrive on.
I did not know that you whiners had a term for your psychosis. Cool huh?
vaara? my eight year old could have been pithier!
C'mon peeps, see the vein on the leaf for teh forest for the trees!
My houseguest today, a local shrink, just read Vaara' piece and said. "Sufferers." I said, "what? and he said, "looks alike a blog where "sufferers congregate" To share thier shadenfreude and moan and piss and whine without any effect excpet to paint the ugly picture of life that certain people, sufferers, thrive on.
I did not know that you whiners had a term for your psychosis. Cool huh?
Mea Culpas at the Sunset of the American Century
Dubya is a humorless stump of a being and has been a career incompetent at anything he has ever touched and will go down in history as having committed more crimes and treasonous behavior in and around the White House than Richard Nixon would have been convicted had he not resigned first ... Trickie Dick was a genetically engineered miscarriage of a preznut and so is Dubya. They both have come to personify what H.L. Mencken once described as 'the art of running the circus from the monkey cage.'
Mea Culpas at the Sunset of the American Century
Dubya is a humorless stump of a being and has been a career incompetent at anything he has ever touched and will go down in history as having committed more crimes and treasonous behavior in and around the White House than Richard Nixon would have been convicted had he not resigned first ... Trickie Dick was a genetically engineered miscarriage of a preznut and so is Dubya. They both have come to personify what H.L. Mencken once described as 'the art of running the circus from the monkey cage.'
Al Sharpton made a mistake in the Tawana Brawley case. But damn, his speech at the Dem convention? Wow. Meanwhile, Dubya's entire life has been a mistake. One after another. He'd be washing dishes if his name wasn't Bush.
I would much rather have Sharpton as president than the know-nothing idjit we have now.
Just sayin'
Al Sharpton made a mistake in the Tawana Brawley case. But damn, his speech at the Dem convention? Wow. Meanwhile, Dubya's entire life has been a mistake. One after another. He'd be washing dishes if his name wasn't Bush.
I would much rather have Sharpton as president than the know-nothing idjit we have now.
Just sayin'
Some people do things, others just sit back and whine!
Go ask Al!
RBO
I love how the repugs like to portray themselves as men-of-action, and liberals as arm-chair quarterbacks who just whine.
Everything you assholes do is counter-productive. If only you'd just sit back and whine and let the liberals take care of business.
We'll marginalize you after the failure in Iraq reaches it's full fruition. This time we're going all the way and prosecuting all your corrupt heroes. No quarter!
Some people do things, others just sit back and whine!
Go ask Al!
RBO
I love how the repugs like to portray themselves as men-of-action, and liberals as arm-chair quarterbacks who just whine.
Everything you assholes do is counter-productive. If only you'd just sit back and whine and let the liberals take care of business.
We'll marginalize you after the failure in Iraq reaches it's full fruition. This time we're going all the way and prosecuting all your corrupt heroes. No quarter!
My houseguest today, a local shrink,
Physician, heal thyself.
My houseguest today, a local shrink,
Physician, heal thyself.
RBO:
You don't have friends, let alone
a kid or houseguests.
Get your lying ass out of here.
RBO:
You don't have friends, let alone
a kid or houseguests.
Get your lying ass out of here.
I've said it before and I'll say it again(No, I'm not singing Judas Priest songs), if Atrios is doing his "job", he can go to his AAR interviews in a Rolls-Royce Silver Phantom for all I care.
I've said it before and I'll say it again(No, I'm not singing Judas Priest songs), if Atrios is doing his "job", he can go to his AAR interviews in a Rolls-Royce Silver Phantom for all I care.
RBO:
Except your "shrink" used schadenfreude wrong. That's what you reichwingers are reveling in right now. Look it up! Or by 'shrink' did you mean your penis?
RBO:
Except your "shrink" used schadenfreude wrong. That's what you reichwingers are reveling in right now. Look it up! Or by 'shrink' did you mean your penis?
In 2005.
A family of four perished after their house was fire-bombed by self-described 'angry Lizardoids'. The family, of Iranian descent, had been accused by Charles Johnson (the so-called Grand Lizard) of having fund-raising ties to Hamas. A relative said they only gave to Red Crescent. This latest tragedy follows a series of incidents where US Citizens of Middle Eastern descent have been 'fingered' by 'Grand Wizard Johnson' and attacked by the 'Lizardoids'. Johnson was unavailable for comment.
In 2005.
A family of four perished after their house was fire-bombed by self-described 'angry Lizardoids'. The family, of Iranian descent, had been accused by Charles Johnson (the so-called Grand Lizard) of having fund-raising ties to Hamas. A relative said they only gave to Red Crescent. This latest tragedy follows a series of incidents where US Citizens of Middle Eastern descent have been 'fingered' by 'Grand Wizard Johnson' and attacked by the 'Lizardoids'. Johnson was unavailable for comment.
Wow, RBO.
You have an in-house shrink?
I admire your resourcefulness to have a mental health specialist on-call 24/7. Must come in really handy.
Wow, RBO.
You have an in-house shrink?
I admire your resourcefulness to have a mental health specialist on-call 24/7. Must come in really handy.
It takes a Right Wing and a Left Wing to fly. Without both, we fly in a circle.
Now that the American Eagle flies with but one wing, it's Right, it will slowly spiral down in a sad decent into nothingness.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
William Butler Yeats
It takes a Right Wing and a Left Wing to fly. Without both, we fly in a circle.
Now that the American Eagle flies with but one wing, it's Right, it will slowly spiral down in a sad decent into nothingness.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all convictions, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
William Butler Yeats
whatever...
whine away!...
enjoy your "success!"
May 2005 be just as ugly as you hope!
whatever...
whine away!...
enjoy your "success!"
May 2005 be just as ugly as you hope!
How our bedraggled eagle would soar,
Should all the wingnuts report for war.
The ragheads would shit bricks
When they spot the small dicks
Of the pimpled-ass stay-at-home corps.
How our bedraggled eagle would soar,
Should all the wingnuts report for war.
The ragheads would shit bricks
When they spot the small dicks
Of the pimpled-ass stay-at-home corps.
Did your "houseguest"/attending psychiatrist give you a term for numbnuts who troll on weblogs as a means to amp up the enjoyment they derive from their compulsive masturbation?
You should ask about that.
Did your "houseguest"/attending psychiatrist give you a term for numbnuts who troll on weblogs as a means to amp up the enjoyment they derive from their compulsive masturbation?
You should ask about that.
That was very funny, Vaara, though sadly it's almost impossible to do satire on this administration. They'll probably cut out your blog and use it as their template for the coming year.
I second hibernation. Tove Jahnsson's moomintrolls hibernated by eating lots of spruce needles. I wonder if that would work for us? Yesterday I managed 24 hours of sleep, so maybe I'm evolving into a hibernator. If so, I want at least four years of snoozing.
That was very funny, Vaara, though sadly it's almost impossible to do satire on this administration. They'll probably cut out your blog and use it as their template for the coming year.
I second hibernation. Tove Jahnsson's moomintrolls hibernated by eating lots of spruce needles. I wonder if that would work for us? Yesterday I managed 24 hours of sleep, so maybe I'm evolving into a hibernator. If so, I want at least four years of snoozing.
US Citizens of Middle Eastern descent have been 'fingered' by 'Grand Wizard Johnson'
Eww.
US Citizens of Middle Eastern descent have been 'fingered' by 'Grand Wizard Johnson'
Eww.
vaara? my eight year old could have been pithier! ...
RBO
RBO, you right-wingers constantly compare people to children as a way of denigrating those people. I've got news for you: you could learn a lot from your kid, but your kid has almost nothing of value to learn from you.
You're a complete basket-case, emotionally damaged, and very likely emotionally abusive to your child. It requires emotional abuse to become as uncompassionate and obnoxious as you are, and as you hope to mold your child to be.
vaara? my eight year old could have been pithier! ...
RBO
RBO, you right-wingers constantly compare people to children as a way of denigrating those people. I've got news for you: you could learn a lot from your kid, but your kid has almost nothing of value to learn from you.
You're a complete basket-case, emotionally damaged, and very likely emotionally abusive to your child. It requires emotional abuse to become as uncompassionate and obnoxious as you are, and as you hope to mold your child to be.
My houseguest today, a local shrink
Since the shrink is local, and therefore not staying there because she's/he's from out of town, one can only speculate how jealous of Atrios one must be to require 24/7 in-house monitoring by said shrink. Some people (Atrios) achieve things; some people (you) sit around and whine about it. Sad.
My houseguest today, a local shrink
Since the shrink is local, and therefore not staying there because she's/he's from out of town, one can only speculate how jealous of Atrios one must be to require 24/7 in-house monitoring by said shrink. Some people (Atrios) achieve things; some people (you) sit around and whine about it. Sad.
"Being the minority party, and a dwindling minorty party at that, must be very painful."--Robert
49% minority. Wow! We're endangered, I tell you.
And Robert, enjoy the gloat, pride goeth before a great fall, asshole.
"Being the minority party, and a dwindling minorty party at that, must be very painful."--Robert
49% minority. Wow! We're endangered, I tell you.
And Robert, enjoy the gloat, pride goeth before a great fall, asshole.
Hey Kenosha:
Happy New Year, dude!
And start updating the blog!!!!
Hey Kenosha:
Happy New Year, dude!
And start updating the blog!!!!
C'mon peeps
Not your peep, bunghole...
C'mon peeps
Not your peep, bunghole...
If there's any justice, Lime Rickey will win the Nobel Prize for Literature for that one.
If there's any justice, Lime Rickey will win the Nobel Prize for Literature for that one.
May 2005 be just as ugly as you hope!
If you are any indication, 2005 is going to be a tiramisu of ugly.
May 2005 be just as ugly as you hope!
If you are any indication, 2005 is going to be a tiramisu of ugly.
Maybe it's time to roll another joint, and go back to the 3 Stooges marathon on AMC...
Yeah... thats the ticket.
Maybe it's time to roll another joint, and go back to the 3 Stooges marathon on AMC...
Yeah... thats the ticket.
i thought that was great!!!
"leading bloggers" reminds me of that BUSH crowd, remember them?
BUSH : we will not have an all-volunteer army!
audience: ?!?!?!?
BUSH : we *WILL* have an all-volunteer army!
audience: YAY!!!!!
i thought that was great!!!
"leading bloggers" reminds me of that BUSH crowd, remember them?
BUSH : we will not have an all-volunteer army!
audience: ?!?!?!?
BUSH : we *WILL* have an all-volunteer army!
audience: YAY!!!!!
I do get scared when I realize how many of the lizardoids have kids.
I do get scared when I realize how many of the lizardoids have kids.
Happy New Year, dude!
And start updating the blog!!!!
I updated half an hour ago! Happy New Year backatcha!
Happy New Year, dude!
And start updating the blog!!!!
I updated half an hour ago! Happy New Year backatcha!
OT:
Sci-Fi channel now airing the greatest
Twilight Zone episode of all time.
"Room For One More"
OT:
Sci-Fi channel now airing the greatest
Twilight Zone episode of all time.
"Room For One More"
Spawn would be the correct terminology you are looking for, Atrios.
Just thought I might add that.
Spawn would be the correct terminology you are looking for, Atrios.
Just thought I might add that.
I am not a Repug, however, I can smell doody in the sandbox with the best of them.
The Dems have not won a majority in a presidential election since 1976. It took Watergate to get Rev. Carter in office.
So, now, 28 years later, what do you have to show for your actions?
What have you accomplished?
Where is your agenda?
I wouldn't let you run a lemonade stand in my living room. Christ, you could not even beat the worst president in history. If you can't beat the worst, what can you do?
(see bitch, whine, shuffle, moan, and suffer!)
try being honest with yourselves one day next year about all this. That would be a step in the right direction.
I am not a Repug, however, I can smell doody in the sandbox with the best of them.
The Dems have not won a majority in a presidential election since 1976. It took Watergate to get Rev. Carter in office.
So, now, 28 years later, what do you have to show for your actions?
What have you accomplished?
Where is your agenda?
I wouldn't let you run a lemonade stand in my living room. Christ, you could not even beat the worst president in history. If you can't beat the worst, what can you do?
(see bitch, whine, shuffle, moan, and suffer!)
try being honest with yourselves one day next year about all this. That would be a step in the right direction.
"May 2005 be just as ugly as you hope!"--RBO
Record debt and deficits, US$ dropping against the Euro, miserable failure in Iraq, thousands of US soldiers dead and wounded, thousands of Iraqi dead and wounded, another fucking fraudulent election to get the Chimp into office, $40 million for his coronation.
And the overwhelming tragedy in Asia.
It can't get worse, can it Robert?
"May 2005 be just as ugly as you hope!"--RBO
Record debt and deficits, US$ dropping against the Euro, miserable failure in Iraq, thousands of US soldiers dead and wounded, thousands of Iraqi dead and wounded, another fucking fraudulent election to get the Chimp into office, $40 million for his coronation.
And the overwhelming tragedy in Asia.
It can't get worse, can it Robert?
Dr. Pedant - Al Sharpton's speech rocked! Especially the part about Ray Charles!
OT:
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar - If my mom ever caught me drawing actual shit on the internet, I'd never be invited home for any family meals again.
Charlotte Smith (nee Beavers) - Thanks!
Dr. Pedant - Al Sharpton's speech rocked! Especially the part about Ray Charles!
OT:
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar - If my mom ever caught me drawing actual shit on the internet, I'd never be invited home for any family meals again.
Charlotte Smith (nee Beavers) - Thanks!
I like 'Grand Lizard' for Johnson. It fits.
Squeaky Johnson, the self-stlyed 'Grand Lizard' of LGF... denied his site is racist..."we're only trying to get out the truth about the Paleos and Muzzies" he said.
I like 'Grand Lizard' for Johnson. It fits.
Squeaky Johnson, the self-stlyed 'Grand Lizard' of LGF... denied his site is racist..."we're only trying to get out the truth about the Paleos and Muzzies" he said.
OT. Happy New Year everyone.
OT. Happy New Year everyone.
(see bitch, whine, shuffle, moan, and suffer!) ...
RBO
Mocking people's suffering - a classic symptom of right-wing compassion deficit disorder.
Another way to look at it is the classic pattern of blaming victims.
I'll wager you're not very familiar with the many ways in which suffering can afflict a person through no fault of their own.
(see bitch, whine, shuffle, moan, and suffer!) ...
RBO
Mocking people's suffering - a classic symptom of right-wing compassion deficit disorder.
Another way to look at it is the classic pattern of blaming victims.
I'll wager you're not very familiar with the many ways in which suffering can afflict a person through no fault of their own.
If you are any indication, 2005 is going to be a tiramisu of ugly.
Did you mean tsunami by any chance?
If you are any indication, 2005 is going to be a tiramisu of ugly.
Did you mean tsunami by any chance?
2005 will be the year when the left hangs bush and co. with scandals so severe and numerous calls for his impeachment erupt even from moderate republicans.Thats the good news,here's the bad news:He announces his dictatorship.
2005 will be the year when the left hangs bush and co. with scandals so severe and numerous calls for his impeachment erupt even from moderate republicans.Thats the good news,here's the bad news:He announces his dictatorship.
(see bitch, whine, shuffle, moan, and suffer!)
It's better than sneer, lie, cheat, swindle, taunt, mock, deride, spew bile.'
But that's just a personal preference. YMMV.
(see bitch, whine, shuffle, moan, and suffer!)
It's better than sneer, lie, cheat, swindle, taunt, mock, deride, spew bile.'
But that's just a personal preference. YMMV.
RBO,
you wouldn't happen to be a Christian, would you?
RBO,
you wouldn't happen to be a Christian, would you?
You can always tell when the nursery schools are on vacation--the trolls come out in force.
You can always tell when the nursery schools are on vacation--the trolls come out in force.
Atrios,
Some of *us* have kids too. Click homepage.
(I'm done blogwhoring for the day. Just sayin')
Atrios,
Some of *us* have kids too. Click homepage.
(I'm done blogwhoring for the day. Just sayin')
If you are any indication, 2005 is going to be a tiramisu of ugly.
Did you mean tsunami by any chance?
Nope...I meant multilayered and soaked through.
But I see what you are getting at.
If you are any indication, 2005 is going to be a tiramisu of ugly.
Did you mean tsunami by any chance?
Nope...I meant multilayered and soaked through.
But I see what you are getting at.
I am not a Repug, however, I can smell doody in the sandbox with the best of
them.
Of course you're a Repug, you lying
sack of shit.
I am not a Repug, however, I can smell doody in the sandbox with the best of
them.
Of course you're a Repug, you lying
sack of shit.
Uh oh, "666" Mary is discussing her children. Time for the second half of the W. B. Yeats poem:
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Uh oh, "666" Mary is discussing her children. Time for the second half of the W. B. Yeats poem:
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
John,
I loved "tiramisu of ugly," by the way....
John,
I loved "tiramisu of ugly," by the way....
RBO has a point. What have the Democrats accomplished over the past 28 years?
I'd say that our main accomplishment has been in staving off untrammelled one-party Republican rule until quite recently.
RBO, maybe you don't see the value in this -- but can you provide one single example of a one-party state in recent history that has not degenerated into corruption and totalitarianism?
Grover Norquist is on record as wanting the U.S. to become a one-party state. And even though you claim not to be a "Repig," your sneering dismissal of the 48% of us who didn't vote for Li'l George in November suggests otherwise.
So, RBO, why do you hate the two-party system? Why do you want America to become a one-party state?
RBO has a point. What have the Democrats accomplished over the past 28 years?
I'd say that our main accomplishment has been in staving off untrammelled one-party Republican rule until quite recently.
RBO, maybe you don't see the value in this -- but can you provide one single example of a one-party state in recent history that has not degenerated into corruption and totalitarianism?
Grover Norquist is on record as wanting the U.S. to become a one-party state. And even though you claim not to be a "Repig," your sneering dismissal of the 48% of us who didn't vote for Li'l George in November suggests otherwise.
So, RBO, why do you hate the two-party system? Why do you want America to become a one-party state?
Such exaggeration! Fully 50% of those
predictions will not happen.
Such exaggeration! Fully 50% of those
predictions will not happen.
TKK,
My children are not devil spawn. Unless there's something about Thers you know that I don't. They're decent liberal children who know Satan when they see him clearing brush on his ranch.
steve,
They always say they're not rethugs, silly. Even fuckface O'Reilly says that. Oh, and I wrote you back.
TKK,
My children are not devil spawn. Unless there's something about Thers you know that I don't. They're decent liberal children who know Satan when they see him clearing brush on his ranch.
steve,
They always say they're not rethugs, silly. Even fuckface O'Reilly says that. Oh, and I wrote you back.
"Only God, my dear,
can love you for yourself alone,
and not your yellow hair."
--William Butler Yeats
My other favorite of his.
"Only God, my dear,
can love you for yourself alone,
and not your yellow hair."
--William Butler Yeats
My other favorite of his.
Such a silly troll on this thread.
Such a silly troll on this thread.
NYMary:
Got it, thanks!!!
NYMary:
Got it, thanks!!!
NYMary
Thanks for your nice comment. Happy New Year to you and your kids. How do you find time to blog?
NYMary
Thanks for your nice comment. Happy New Year to you and your kids. How do you find time to blog?
In truth, the reason the Dems are in the fix they are in is because they did not do as good a job at marketing their candidate, and slamming the opposition, as they should have. Another way of saying this is to say that people like RBO aren't fucking smart enough to know a pickpocket when they see one, and have to be told their pocket is being picked, over and over. Too bad.
In truth, the reason the Dems are in the fix they are in is because they did not do as good a job at marketing their candidate, and slamming the opposition, as they should have. Another way of saying this is to say that people like RBO aren't fucking smart enough to know a pickpocket when they see one, and have to be told their pocket is being picked, over and over. Too bad.
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
The Kenosha Kid
Yeats is 'da bomb,' as my 35-yr-old, chicana, occasional mistress would say... If you don't know it, read Among Schoolchildren, which ends with the profoundly rhetorical question "How can you tell the dancer from the dance?"
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
The Kenosha Kid
Yeats is 'da bomb,' as my 35-yr-old, chicana, occasional mistress would say... If you don't know it, read Among Schoolchildren, which ends with the profoundly rhetorical question "How can you tell the dancer from the dance?"
I realize it's pushing the bounds of civilized discourse to compare someone's baby to the anti-christ, but after I posted the first part of that poem, I was having an OCD-like attack of incompleteness guilt.
I realize it's pushing the bounds of civilized discourse to compare someone's baby to the anti-christ, but after I posted the first part of that poem, I was having an OCD-like attack of incompleteness guilt.
Atrios, did you put some sort of troll pheromone on this thread?
Atrios, did you put some sort of troll pheromone on this thread?
I don't think RBO is a troll, I think he's sincerely an ass. To put it in more useful terms, a narrow-minded clod who could use a dose of theraputic MDMA and psilocybin shrooms.
I don't think RBO is a troll, I think he's sincerely an ass. To put it in more useful terms, a narrow-minded clod who could use a dose of theraputic MDMA and psilocybin shrooms.
And Kenosha Kid,
The Second Coming, great as it may be, gets posted in these threads
And Kenosha Kid,
The Second Coming, great as it may be, gets posted in these threads
nice!
I have said it before, the Dems I went to Brown with are all lovely compassionate people. Working in Rwanda and Myanmar and Banglsdesh and all over the world, answering their call.
Here, I suggest that you whine too much and I see nothing come of it, and you try and (Atrios-"I do get scared when I realize how many of the lizardoids have kids.") demean my role as a father. To me, being a father is sacred, and I'd kick all your 75 pound asses for suggesting otherwise to my face. But you have no courage.
That is clear.
You people are not only weak minded, your mean spirited. Whatever happened to the Democrats? No wonder you fail
so miserably.
At any rate, as chronic sufferers,
enjoy your hangovers tomorrow.
And Duncan, please stop feeding the rabble your red meat. Fred Phelps is an asshole. Why give him Ink? Why give him press? That's exectly what he wants. You always say "ignore the trolls, and they will go away." And yet, you feed them all day long. (fred phelps being a troll of little merit.)
Your smart enough to recognize that your just energizing the oppostion. So why do you insist on doing it?
It's not money is it?
I beleive that all this blog based whining added a new element to the election of 2004. It provided a crucible for people to attack Bush.
And the result was that the Dems got a full 20% more Repubs to the poll to vote for Bush than in 2000. You catalyzed a record turnout for the other guy, by attacking him.
Which pisses me off, that you would hold such a high and mighty position amongst the confused, when you really might as well be working for the Republicans.
Duncan, your tactics have only helped the Republicans. Sad.
nice!
I have said it before, the Dems I went to Brown with are all lovely compassionate people. Working in Rwanda and Myanmar and Banglsdesh and all over the world, answering their call.
Here, I suggest that you whine too much and I see nothing come of it, and you try and (Atrios-"I do get scared when I realize how many of the lizardoids have kids.") demean my role as a father. To me, being a father is sacred, and I'd kick all your 75 pound asses for suggesting otherwise to my face. But you have no courage.
That is clear.
You people are not only weak minded, your mean spirited. Whatever happened to the Democrats? No wonder you fail
so miserably.
At any rate, as chronic sufferers,
enjoy your hangovers tomorrow.
And Duncan, please stop feeding the rabble your red meat. Fred Phelps is an asshole. Why give him Ink? Why give him press? That's exectly what he wants. You always say "ignore the trolls, and they will go away." And yet, you feed them all day long. (fred phelps being a troll of little merit.)
Your smart enough to recognize that your just energizing the oppostion. So why do you insist on doing it?
It's not money is it?
I beleive that all this blog based whining added a new element to the election of 2004. It provided a crucible for people to attack Bush.
And the result was that the Dems got a full 20% more Repubs to the poll to vote for Bush than in 2000. You catalyzed a record turnout for the other guy, by attacking him.
Which pisses me off, that you would hold such a high and mighty position amongst the confused, when you really might as well be working for the Republicans.
Duncan, your tactics have only helped the Republicans. Sad.
I keep reading more and more articles about impending economic disaster, from reputable high-level folks at PIMCO, Morgan Stanley, and MSNBC, as well as Warren Buffet.
Jackasses like Robert would rather let this country fucking go to hell than admit they're wrong. His shrink needs a shrink.
I keep reading more and more articles about impending economic disaster, from reputable high-level folks at PIMCO, Morgan Stanley, and MSNBC, as well as Warren Buffet.
Jackasses like Robert would rather let this country fucking go to hell than admit they're wrong. His shrink needs a shrink.
WTF?
And Kenosha Kid,
The Second Coming, great as it may be, gets posted in these threads
at least once a month, by someone just like you who thinks he or she is doing something new and clever.
Just sayin'
WTF?
And Kenosha Kid,
The Second Coming, great as it may be, gets posted in these threads
at least once a month, by someone just like you who thinks he or she is doing something new and clever.
Just sayin'
I don't think RBO is a troll, I think he's sincerely an ass. To put it in more useful terms, a narrow-minded clod who could use a dose of theraputic MDMA and psilocybin shrooms.
Visual Politics
I was thinking something more in the line of psychotropic medication and a bi weekly shock treatment to control the temporal lobe issues.
I don't think RBO is a troll, I think he's sincerely an ass. To put it in more useful terms, a narrow-minded clod who could use a dose of theraputic MDMA and psilocybin shrooms.
Visual Politics
I was thinking something more in the line of psychotropic medication and a bi weekly shock treatment to control the temporal lobe issues.
RBO:
You're a liar. Go away.
RBO:
You're a liar. Go away.
RBO, talk to your in-house shrink.
Seriously. You're projecting more than your local cineplex.
Speaking of which, I saw "Phantom" last night. Dear God....avoid. See "Incredibles" or something life-affirming. Even the "Spongebob" movie is a better choice.
RBO, talk to your in-house shrink.
Seriously. You're projecting more than your local cineplex.
Speaking of which, I saw "Phantom" last night. Dear God....avoid. See "Incredibles" or something life-affirming. Even the "Spongebob" movie is a better choice.
The Second Coming, great as it may be, gets posted in these threads
at least once a month, by someone just like you who thinks he or she is doing something new and clever.
Yeah, but scroll way back up and see what an amazingly apropos response it was to someone else's post. I actually am new and clever.
The Second Coming, great as it may be, gets posted in these threads
at least once a month, by someone just like you who thinks he or she is doing something new and clever.
Yeah, but scroll way back up and see what an amazingly apropos response it was to someone else's post. I actually am new and clever.
To me, being a father is sacred, and I'd kick all your 75 pound asses for suggesting otherwise to my face. But you have no courage.
That is clear.
RBO, I'm fairly confident you would not kick my ass for questioning your sensitivity and the quality of your care as a father.
I'll tell you what, if you want to frame this discussion in terms of courage, why don't you face your self and deal with your anger-management issue? I bet your kid would really appreciate it if you could find the courage to face that problem.
To me, being a father is sacred, and I'd kick all your 75 pound asses for suggesting otherwise to my face. But you have no courage.
That is clear.
RBO, I'm fairly confident you would not kick my ass for questioning your sensitivity and the quality of your care as a father.
I'll tell you what, if you want to frame this discussion in terms of courage, why don't you face your self and deal with your anger-management issue? I bet your kid would really appreciate it if you could find the courage to face that problem.
And RBO, learn the difference between "your" and "you're" before you condescend to us.
Idiot.
And RBO, learn the difference between "your" and "you're" before you condescend to us.
Idiot.
Atrios, you attract some pissy trolls.
Atrios, you attract some pissy trolls.
Kenosha Kid:
What you said.
Kenosha Kid:
What you said.
Or that Bush kept his promise that the $35 million pledge "is only the beginning of our help."
Schwa?",/i>
Mars, bitches.
Or that Bush kept his promise that the $35 million pledge "is only the beginning of our help."
Schwa?",/i>
Mars, bitches.
RBO is full of advice for others, and full of accusations of stupidity and cowardice as well. While he posts without any contact info and without the brains to know the difference between you, your, you're and you are. Wotta loser. Nice educamafication you got there at Brown.
You're brave when you can't be reached, aren't you? But your stupidity is blindingly obvious.
Smarter trolls please.
RBO is full of advice for others, and full of accusations of stupidity and cowardice as well. While he posts without any contact info and without the brains to know the difference between you, your, you're and you are. Wotta loser. Nice educamafication you got there at Brown.
You're brave when you can't be reached, aren't you? But your stupidity is blindingly obvious.
Smarter trolls please.
RBO,
The only people who call Atrios Duncan are Republican Trolls.
RBO,
The only people who call Atrios Duncan are Republican Trolls.
2005 will be the year when the left hangs bush and co. with scandals so severe and numerous calls for his impeachment erupt even from moderate republicans.
-----------
Translation: 2005 will be another year that the left whines and cries and wonders why everybody ignores them, while they shake their skinny white fists at their computer screens.
lol!
2005 will be the year when the left hangs bush and co. with scandals so severe and numerous calls for his impeachment erupt even from moderate republicans.
-----------
Translation: 2005 will be another year that the left whines and cries and wonders why everybody ignores them, while they shake their skinny white fists at their computer screens.
lol!
RBO,
next time you make your kid cry, imagine me shaking my head in sad disapproval.
I'm not even kidding. I hate to see people who can't keep their smoldering anger from hurting other people. It's a personal issue, a family issue, a community issue and a political issue. You can't rage your way to a solution for every problem you face in life.
RBO,
next time you make your kid cry, imagine me shaking my head in sad disapproval.
I'm not even kidding. I hate to see people who can't keep their smoldering anger from hurting other people. It's a personal issue, a family issue, a community issue and a political issue. You can't rage your way to a solution for every problem you face in life.
OMYGOD - Brown? Two of the worst chauvinist cheating motherfuckers I ever met - both of whom worked for Solomon Brothers - went to Brown.
Oy.
OMYGOD - Brown? Two of the worst chauvinist cheating motherfuckers I ever met - both of whom worked for Solomon Brothers - went to Brown.
Oy.
Avestus,
If you were ignoring us, you wouldn't be posting here.
Avestus,
If you were ignoring us, you wouldn't be posting here.
RBO=Avestus
If they had two brain cells, it would double their IQ.
RBO=Avestus
If they had two brain cells, it would double their IQ.
RBO doesn't have a kid, he doesn't
have a shrink as a houseguest, and
he is a Repug.
He's a major liar.
All you need to know.
Oh, and Avestus is an asshole.
Who could be RBO, now that I think of it.
RBO doesn't have a kid, he doesn't
have a shrink as a houseguest, and
he is a Repug.
He's a major liar.
All you need to know.
Oh, and Avestus is an asshole.
Who could be RBO, now that I think of it.
But...
HE FORGOT POLAND!
But...
HE FORGOT POLAND!
Avestus,
If you were ignoring us, you wouldn't be posting here.
Nancy Richardson
-----------
True. I prefer laughing at you, and leave the ignoring to others
=D
Avestus,
If you were ignoring us, you wouldn't be posting here.
Nancy Richardson
-----------
True. I prefer laughing at you, and leave the ignoring to others
=D
It provided a crucible for people to attack Bush.
And the result was that the Dems got a full 20% more Repubs to the poll to vote for Bush than in 2000. You catalyzed a record turnout for the other guy, by attacking him.
I love it when our enemies show up and tell us what we did wrong. It tells me what we need to do more of, next time. Of course, the Republicans didn't attack John Kerry and thereby mobilize a record turnout for Kerry. Oh, wait a minute, there was that Swift Boat stuff.
So it's ok and a good tactic when Republicans attack Democrats but we're supposed to believe our enemies when they tell us that it's a bad tactic for Democrats to attack Republicans.
Hmmmm. Why would they tell us that, if it were true?
It provided a crucible for people to attack Bush.
And the result was that the Dems got a full 20% more Repubs to the poll to vote for Bush than in 2000. You catalyzed a record turnout for the other guy, by attacking him.
I love it when our enemies show up and tell us what we did wrong. It tells me what we need to do more of, next time. Of course, the Republicans didn't attack John Kerry and thereby mobilize a record turnout for Kerry. Oh, wait a minute, there was that Swift Boat stuff.
So it's ok and a good tactic when Republicans attack Democrats but we're supposed to believe our enemies when they tell us that it's a bad tactic for Democrats to attack Republicans.
Hmmmm. Why would they tell us that, if it were true?
They're decent liberal children who know Satan when they see him clearing brush on his ranch.
Now that's funny! Darlings, watch out for that ersatz cowboy with the cloven boots - He'll clear his brush and then go for yours!
Ersatz Brothers...the Real Thing
They're decent liberal children who know Satan when they see him clearing brush on his ranch.
Now that's funny! Darlings, watch out for that ersatz cowboy with the cloven boots - He'll clear his brush and then go for yours!
Ersatz Brothers...the Real Thing
Who could be RBO, now that I think of it.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! Winner!
Who could be RBO, now that I think of it.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding! Winner!
OMYGOD - Brown? Two of the worst chauvinist cheating motherfuckers I ever met - both of whom worked for Solomon Brothers - went to Brown.
Oy.
Tena
i guess the harsh reality here, Tena, is that a few people got a great break and went to an Ivy League college only to learn how to bury their heads in the sand and rely on ignorance instead of the better angels of their nature? Sounds like the preznut - no wonder why there are educated neo-cons with the political soul of a dung beetle. It's a travesty I tell ya! We should use electricity to remove those years of fine education by way of electroshock therapy, and, even perhaps, chemical lobotomies to ensure that they can never harm darker-skinned people again. I wish I could say I was laughing about all of this.
OMYGOD - Brown? Two of the worst chauvinist cheating motherfuckers I ever met - both of whom worked for Solomon Brothers - went to Brown.
Oy.
Tena
i guess the harsh reality here, Tena, is that a few people got a great break and went to an Ivy League college only to learn how to bury their heads in the sand and rely on ignorance instead of the better angels of their nature? Sounds like the preznut - no wonder why there are educated neo-cons with the political soul of a dung beetle. It's a travesty I tell ya! We should use electricity to remove those years of fine education by way of electroshock therapy, and, even perhaps, chemical lobotomies to ensure that they can never harm darker-skinned people again. I wish I could say I was laughing about all of this.
I think trolls are in part identity masochists, people who only feel they exist when they are getting verbally or physically abused. They pick fights to get the heart started, so to speak.
Here, we may get down in the dumps, but we support each other with goofy Pythonic catchphrase warfare and kitty pics, but we don't come in here to start shit. Seriously, I go to therapy, and I see the trolls here and wish they would drop some money on a co-pay to defuse some of the demons in their heads.
In the past year, I've come here and seen people rallying each other, turning each other onto causes, informing each other, helping to set the record straight. It is a nice virtual village with regulars and customs, and I'm glad to be an occasional visitor, occupying a tiny space with a well-worn ideological passport. I think for all the crap we on the left had to endure, we wouldn't be this coordinated or strong without this Grand Central Station/Saloon/Political Pillowfight to help us cut through the lies and giggle at the same time.
What I'm saying is, guys...thanks.
I think trolls are in part identity masochists, people who only feel they exist when they are getting verbally or physically abused. They pick fights to get the heart started, so to speak.
Here, we may get down in the dumps, but we support each other with goofy Pythonic catchphrase warfare and kitty pics, but we don't come in here to start shit. Seriously, I go to therapy, and I see the trolls here and wish they would drop some money on a co-pay to defuse some of the demons in their heads.
In the past year, I've come here and seen people rallying each other, turning each other onto causes, informing each other, helping to set the record straight. It is a nice virtual village with regulars and customs, and I'm glad to be an occasional visitor, occupying a tiny space with a well-worn ideological passport. I think for all the crap we on the left had to endure, we wouldn't be this coordinated or strong without this Grand Central Station/Saloon/Political Pillowfight to help us cut through the lies and giggle at the same time.
What I'm saying is, guys...thanks.
"RBO,
you wouldn't happen to be a Christian, would you?"
That's a good one. I am Da Trufe. I am Rob. I am Reality Base One.
God is for infants.
Vaara,
oops, nothing personal. I am just sick of people moaning without effect. And you took it to a new level. Future moaning! No, I apologize for being rude. You are no dounbt sincere. It may be hard to beleive. But I switched to a democrat this year. And I ain't going back. I am Clinton conservative.
To answer your ?, one party system? No thanks. Can't think of a worse idea.
I am for the Democrats. The pendulum will swing our way too. I can't even say George Bush's name he makes me so angry.
I just crossed the field to join the opposition, you. And the shop needs a lot of cleaning if my liberal aspirations stand a chance. Simply, the Dems are broken, and need a fixin'. That's all I'm trying to add to the equation.
I feel obligated to point out that you'all energized the Repubs. Or thugs or pigs or whatever.
It was my ninety year old granny in law that taught me that you get more by dispensing honey than vinegar. So, I simply reccomend playing oit a littel cooler. Let the other guy fall on his sword, don't make a martyr out of him for his people.
"RBO,
you wouldn't happen to be a Christian, would you?"
That's a good one. I am Da Trufe. I am Rob. I am Reality Base One.
God is for infants.
Vaara,
oops, nothing personal. I am just sick of people moaning without effect. And you took it to a new level. Future moaning! No, I apologize for being rude. You are no dounbt sincere. It may be hard to beleive. But I switched to a democrat this year. And I ain't going back. I am Clinton conservative.
To answer your ?, one party system? No thanks. Can't think of a worse idea.
I am for the Democrats. The pendulum will swing our way too. I can't even say George Bush's name he makes me so angry.
I just crossed the field to join the opposition, you. And the shop needs a lot of cleaning if my liberal aspirations stand a chance. Simply, the Dems are broken, and need a fixin'. That's all I'm trying to add to the equation.
I feel obligated to point out that you'all energized the Repubs. Or thugs or pigs or whatever.
It was my ninety year old granny in law that taught me that you get more by dispensing honey than vinegar. So, I simply reccomend playing oit a littel cooler. Let the other guy fall on his sword, don't make a martyr out of him for his people.
Avestus,
emotional therapy isn't cheap, but living your life in a wounded state is much more expensive.
Good luck grappling with the issues of your personal psychodrama. Maybe you'll have better days in the future.
Avestus,
emotional therapy isn't cheap, but living your life in a wounded state is much more expensive.
Good luck grappling with the issues of your personal psychodrama. Maybe you'll have better days in the future.
Translation: 2005 will be another year that the left whines and cries and wonders why everybody ignores them, while they shake their skinny white fists at their computer screens.
lol!
Avestus | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 2:34 pm | # ......................................2005 will see avestus shaking his skinny white joystick at scat porn on his computer screen.
Translation: 2005 will be another year that the left whines and cries and wonders why everybody ignores them, while they shake their skinny white fists at their computer screens.
lol!
Avestus | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 2:34 pm | # ......................................2005 will see avestus shaking his skinny white joystick at scat porn on his computer screen.
Well, shit, there goes a pleasent mid-afternoon, post-work buzz.
Oh, well.
Well, shit, there goes a pleasent mid-afternoon, post-work buzz.
Oh, well.
Hey everyone -
Happy new year. Tonight at midnight I will hold thoughts of peace (aka miraculous thoughts) and love for everyone...
My best regards,
Hey everyone -
Happy new year. Tonight at midnight I will hold thoughts of peace (aka miraculous thoughts) and love for everyone...
My best regards,
while they shake their skinny white fists at their computer screens.
lol!
Assestus
project much halfwit. I do have a not so white foot I could put up yer bushhole till you feel the rapture.
while they shake their skinny white fists at their computer screens.
lol!
Assestus
project much halfwit. I do have a not so white foot I could put up yer bushhole till you feel the rapture.
God is for infants. ...
RBO
There you go denigrating the young again. What great things have you learned in all your years of experience, and why are you so hollow and wounded? Get off your pedestal and admit it, you've wasted most of your years unhappy, and now you sit here sniping at happier people. Seriously, you need to find a way to have a good time.
God is for infants. ...
RBO
There you go denigrating the young again. What great things have you learned in all your years of experience, and why are you so hollow and wounded? Get off your pedestal and admit it, you've wasted most of your years unhappy, and now you sit here sniping at happier people. Seriously, you need to find a way to have a good time.
If RBO is on my side, I may have to seriously reconsider which side I'm on. Luckily, like Simels says, he's a liar.
If RBO is on my side, I may have to seriously reconsider which side I'm on. Luckily, like Simels says, he's a liar.
it when our enemies show up and tell us what we did wrong. It tells me what we need to do more of, next time.
Word, Hecate.
When the Right finally finds out that they aren't the majority, it's going to be interesting. I'm hoping they find that out when they see the pitchforks and the torches.
it when our enemies show up and tell us what we did wrong. It tells me what we need to do more of, next time.
Word, Hecate.
When the Right finally finds out that they aren't the majority, it's going to be interesting. I'm hoping they find that out when they see the pitchforks and the torches.
liberal aspirations???
clinton conservative????
liberal aspirations???
clinton conservative????
And the result was that the Dems got a full 20% more Repubs to the poll to vote for Bush than in 2000.
Uh, no. That would be the hate initiatives that appeared on the ballots in 11 states.
Oh, by the way, your mom's already got a 5 o'clock shadow going. Better hop back into the tub behind her and get back to work with that Daisy. Let it go too long and you'll need to haul out the Weed Whacker again.
And the result was that the Dems got a full 20% more Repubs to the poll to vote for Bush than in 2000.
Uh, no. That would be the hate initiatives that appeared on the ballots in 11 states.
Oh, by the way, your mom's already got a 5 o'clock shadow going. Better hop back into the tub behind her and get back to work with that Daisy. Let it go too long and you'll need to haul out the Weed Whacker again.
If RBO is on my side, I may have to seriously reconsider which side I'm on.
Think of it as mutated strain of "good cop/bad cop" used by trolls to deflect our blaster fire.
If RBO is on my side, I may have to seriously reconsider which side I'm on.
Think of it as mutated strain of "good cop/bad cop" used by trolls to deflect our blaster fire.
Kenosha Kid: Thanks for the Yeats.
Kenosha Kid: Thanks for the Yeats.
...read Among Schoolchildren, which ends with the profoundly rhetorical question "How can you tell the dancer from the dance?"
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 2:26 pm | #
Profound indeed. This is also the essence of zen: How can you tell the thinker from the thought? Or the experiencer from the thing experienced?
Anyways, read Among Schoolchildren here.
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...read Among Schoolchildren, which ends with the profoundly rhetorical question "How can you tell the dancer from the dance?"
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 2:26 pm | #
Profound indeed. This is also the essence of zen: How can you tell the thinker from the thought? Or the experiencer from the thing experienced?
Anyways, read Among Schoolchildren here.
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Hi, Backslider!
Anyway, gotta run. Have to take a teen to a slumber party. Whee!
Hi, Backslider!
Anyway, gotta run. Have to take a teen to a slumber party. Whee!
That history of 2005 is effing brilliant.
That history of 2005 is effing brilliant.
What can Democrats/liberals/progressives do that isn't either "moblizing the opposition", "selling out the base" or "bending over". Take the whole gay marriage issue. Some folks want the Democrats to give in to the fundie maniacs so's as to not turn off swing voters who think gay people being funny and flaming on TV is fine but gay men building a life together is icky. Drop the issue so we win election, but we tell an entire population of people who make up the base "Sorry, but your civil liberties and basic human rights aren't as important as winning this office, but we promise to change things once we're in power. Really."
Seriously. You're gonna piss someone off, so why worry if you're pissing off small-minded cretins who're too ashamed or too incompetent to deal with their own lives that they got to worry overmuch about others. The swing voter can't handle two dudes kissing? Fuck the swing voter. Tell the swing voter to stop beating his wife and living vicariously through his children and then give me a call.
Jesus...if you're gonna fight, fight. Otherwise, get the fuck out of the way. You worry too much about "energizing the opposition", but hey guess what...the fuckin' opposition hates your guts on your best day, okay? Not everyone loves you unconditionally like your momma, so get the fuck over it.
Sheesh...
What can Democrats/liberals/progressives do that isn't either "moblizing the opposition", "selling out the base" or "bending over". Take the whole gay marriage issue. Some folks want the Democrats to give in to the fundie maniacs so's as to not turn off swing voters who think gay people being funny and flaming on TV is fine but gay men building a life together is icky. Drop the issue so we win election, but we tell an entire population of people who make up the base "Sorry, but your civil liberties and basic human rights aren't as important as winning this office, but we promise to change things once we're in power. Really."
Seriously. You're gonna piss someone off, so why worry if you're pissing off small-minded cretins who're too ashamed or too incompetent to deal with their own lives that they got to worry overmuch about others. The swing voter can't handle two dudes kissing? Fuck the swing voter. Tell the swing voter to stop beating his wife and living vicariously through his children and then give me a call.
Jesus...if you're gonna fight, fight. Otherwise, get the fuck out of the way. You worry too much about "energizing the opposition", but hey guess what...the fuckin' opposition hates your guts on your best day, okay? Not everyone loves you unconditionally like your momma, so get the fuck over it.
Sheesh...
Visual Politics,
You're batting like 0-20 on me so far today! Keep it up though! (and ask thyslef why you are trying so hard to spew hate, and why I bother you so much?
The Emporer is naked my friend! I speak Da Trufe. I am as flawed as the next human, I just don't whine about it.
And yes, if you called me a bad father to my face, I'd probably kick your sorry ass into Tuesday. But, you never would, now would you?
Whine on!
Visual Politics,
You're batting like 0-20 on me so far today! Keep it up though! (and ask thyslef why you are trying so hard to spew hate, and why I bother you so much?
The Emporer is naked my friend! I speak Da Trufe. I am as flawed as the next human, I just don't whine about it.
And yes, if you called me a bad father to my face, I'd probably kick your sorry ass into Tuesday. But, you never would, now would you?
Whine on!
Backslider - Amen!
Backslider - Amen!
Jesus...if you're gonna fight, fight. Otherwise, get the fuck out of the way. You worry too much about "energizing the opposition", but hey guess what...the fuckin' opposition hates your guts on your best day, okay? Not everyone loves you unconditionally like your momma, so get the fuck over it.
Backslider,
When you run for office, I will take off and run your campaign. That one paragraph is just so fucking great. If anyone at the DNC had as much good sense in their little finger as you've managed to get into one paragraph, we'd be much better off.
Jesus...if you're gonna fight, fight. Otherwise, get the fuck out of the way. You worry too much about "energizing the opposition", but hey guess what...the fuckin' opposition hates your guts on your best day, okay? Not everyone loves you unconditionally like your momma, so get the fuck over it.
Backslider,
When you run for office, I will take off and run your campaign. That one paragraph is just so fucking great. If anyone at the DNC had as much good sense in their little finger as you've managed to get into one paragraph, we'd be much better off.
My fellow loyal Americans (sometimes derided here as "trolls"). Atrios and his bunch have been unfair to me and George Bush and are not TRUE AMERICANS. I am therefore calling for a YEAR OF BOYCOTT. We will triumphantly ignore these bastards and bring them to their knees like we did France.
So, all loyal Americans ("trolls"), leave this site until next year when we will once again return to mop up the liberal devastation wrought by our united effort. Pass the word, the boycott is on.
Viva America! The rest of you unAmericans (not trolls) SHUT UP!
My fellow loyal Americans (sometimes derided here as "trolls"). Atrios and his bunch have been unfair to me and George Bush and are not TRUE AMERICANS. I am therefore calling for a YEAR OF BOYCOTT. We will triumphantly ignore these bastards and bring them to their knees like we did France.
So, all loyal Americans ("trolls"), leave this site until next year when we will once again return to mop up the liberal devastation wrought by our united effort. Pass the word, the boycott is on.
Viva America! The rest of you unAmericans (not trolls) SHUT UP!
And yes, if you called me a bad father to my face, I'd probably kick your sorry ass into Tuesday. But, you never would, now would you?
Whine on!
RBO
Depends on how bad you treated your kid in front of me. You would get a pass for common snappiness and impatience with your kid, but get too carried away and I would have to kick your ass, just so your kid would know what a real adult looks like. You should be grateful that there are concerned people such as myself that would be willing to do that for a kid.
And yes, if you called me a bad father to my face, I'd probably kick your sorry ass into Tuesday. But, you never would, now would you?
Whine on!
RBO
Depends on how bad you treated your kid in front of me. You would get a pass for common snappiness and impatience with your kid, but get too carried away and I would have to kick your ass, just so your kid would know what a real adult looks like. You should be grateful that there are concerned people such as myself that would be willing to do that for a kid.
And yes, if you called me a bad father to my face, I'd probably kick your sorry ass into Tuesday. But, you never would, now would you?
Dude, why the fuck are you so hung up on this? Got a record with CPS or something?
And yes, if you called me a bad father to my face, I'd probably kick your sorry ass into Tuesday. But, you never would, now would you?
Dude, why the fuck are you so hung up on this? Got a record with CPS or something?
Backslider,
Can i be dick cheney in your administration? I don't need the limelight, i just want to beat down rethugs for the gutter pimps that they are ... I, too, could care less about energizing the opposition ... I say fill the prisons with neo-cons and shake the tree to see who comes spilling down!
Backslider,
Can i be dick cheney in your administration? I don't need the limelight, i just want to beat down rethugs for the gutter pimps that they are ... I, too, could care less about energizing the opposition ... I say fill the prisons with neo-cons and shake the tree to see who comes spilling down!
Gotta have that post-work buzz, that's what makes the workday worth it.
Gotta have that post-work buzz, that's what makes the workday worth it.
I'm having second thoughts.
RBO may not be a liar.
He may, however, be clinically
insane.
I'm having second thoughts.
RBO may not be a liar.
He may, however, be clinically
insane.
Backslider,
When you come down off the rampart for a moment, consider that many gay groups have backed way off this past month. Because (paraphrase) "the morality of the country is ten years behind the politics." Gays have made extraordianry inroads in the country, but the SF mayor went overboard last year. At least Clinton and Co. say so.
There's a time to fight, and a way to fight. You have not learned that yet. You want to rush out and fight for the gays, but they don't want you too. You'll f' it up for them.
In order to stop just reacting to the other guy, being ontrolled by his debate, your going to have to take a day off, and come up with a better plan.
Seriously, the Dems, my party, could not beat the worst preznoit ever. That my freind, is a concern. Doing the same thing, but harder, will lead to further futility.
Happy New Year. PITME!!!!!!
Backslider,
When you come down off the rampart for a moment, consider that many gay groups have backed way off this past month. Because (paraphrase) "the morality of the country is ten years behind the politics." Gays have made extraordianry inroads in the country, but the SF mayor went overboard last year. At least Clinton and Co. say so.
There's a time to fight, and a way to fight. You have not learned that yet. You want to rush out and fight for the gays, but they don't want you too. You'll f' it up for them.
In order to stop just reacting to the other guy, being ontrolled by his debate, your going to have to take a day off, and come up with a better plan.
Seriously, the Dems, my party, could not beat the worst preznoit ever. That my freind, is a concern. Doing the same thing, but harder, will lead to further futility.
Happy New Year. PITME!!!!!!
You know, if I were a billy goat, I wouldn't have to be told to get off that bridge. The smell of unchanged diaper would persuade me to take the alternative route posthaste.
Wait a minute...is that unchanged diaper or unwashed socks?
You know, if I were a billy goat, I wouldn't have to be told to get off that bridge. The smell of unchanged diaper would persuade me to take the alternative route posthaste.
Wait a minute...is that unchanged diaper or unwashed socks?
I'm having second thoughts.
RBO may not be a liar.
He may, however, be clinically
insane.
steve simels
i came to that conclusion a while ago, steve-o .... no offense, sometimes the guys who think the phone jacks are tapped even without a phone handset usually appear to be clear thinking pathological liars (kind of an oxymoron, to be sure) until you recognize the froth at the corner of their mouths and the involuntary reactions like dilated pupils and hands sweating as the conversation meanders along
I'm having second thoughts.
RBO may not be a liar.
He may, however, be clinically
insane.
steve simels
i came to that conclusion a while ago, steve-o .... no offense, sometimes the guys who think the phone jacks are tapped even without a phone handset usually appear to be clear thinking pathological liars (kind of an oxymoron, to be sure) until you recognize the froth at the corner of their mouths and the involuntary reactions like dilated pupils and hands sweating as the conversation meanders along
I'm having second thoughts.
RBO may not be a liar.
He may, however, be clinically
insane.
Hmm. That would make the in-house therapist the on-call shrink for the asylum he's in.
Makes sense, from a certain point of view.
I'm having second thoughts.
RBO may not be a liar.
He may, however, be clinically
insane.
Hmm. That would make the in-house therapist the on-call shrink for the asylum he's in.
Makes sense, from a certain point of view.
When you run for office, I will take off and run your campaign.
Hecate, when he does and you do, lemme know. The boy don't need a copywriter, that's for sure. But I could... y'know... file shit at the campaign HQ or something, straighten the stacks of bumperstickers, fetch y'all sandwiches...
When you run for office, I will take off and run your campaign.
Hecate, when he does and you do, lemme know. The boy don't need a copywriter, that's for sure. But I could... y'know... file shit at the campaign HQ or something, straighten the stacks of bumperstickers, fetch y'all sandwiches...
Dude, why the fuck are you so hung up on this? Got a record with CPS or something?
John
Seriously. Looks like a nerve got tweaked there. Ah, now I see...the shrink "houseguest"...
Dude, why the fuck are you so hung up on this? Got a record with CPS or something?
John
Seriously. Looks like a nerve got tweaked there. Ah, now I see...the shrink "houseguest"...
"ohhh no, this isnt a mental institution! think of this as your home! & i'm not your doctor, i'm your houseguest!now just relaaaaax & count backwards from 10..."
"ohhh no, this isnt a mental institution! think of this as your home! & i'm not your doctor, i'm your houseguest!now just relaaaaax & count backwards from 10..."
"Seriously, the Dems, my party, could not beat the worst preznoit ever. That my
freind, is a concern. Doing the same thing, but harder, will lead to further futility.
Happy New Year. PITME!!!!!!
RBO | Email | Homepage
Changed my mind again.
"The Dems, my
party...."
He's a HUGE fucking liar.
"Seriously, the Dems, my party, could not beat the worst preznoit ever. That my
freind, is a concern. Doing the same thing, but harder, will lead to further futility.
Happy New Year. PITME!!!!!!
RBO | Email | Homepage
Changed my mind again.
"The Dems, my
party...."
He's a HUGE fucking liar.
I want to be Drug Czar in the Backslider admin. Although, I suspect that would be the area where he'd want to be more of a "hands-on" president.
I, therefore, will volunteer for the position of Grand Inquis..er, I mean Attorney General, yeah that's it. Heh heh...(looks around nervously).
I want to be Drug Czar in the Backslider admin. Although, I suspect that would be the area where he'd want to be more of a "hands-on" president.
I, therefore, will volunteer for the position of Grand Inquis..er, I mean Attorney General, yeah that's it. Heh heh...(looks around nervously).
If BlakNo1 is Drug Czar, I call dibs on Secretary of Sleeping In, Eating a big bowl of Lucky Charms, and watching MST3K on DVD.
If BlakNo1 is Drug Czar, I call dibs on Secretary of Sleeping In, Eating a big bowl of Lucky Charms, and watching MST3K on DVD.
Seriously, the Dems, my party, could not beat the worst preznoit ever. That my freind, is a concern. Doing the same thing, but harder, will lead to further futility.
Happy New Year. PITME!!!!!!
RBO
You spreading the lie that Bush actually won shows what side you're on.
Now you tell us to compromise with the NeoConfederates. The willingness to compromise with the NeoConfederates is the corruption that undermines our cause.
No thanks for your bad attitude and bad advice. Maybe you can find some asshats at the DLC who will be sympathetic to your tired, worn-out ideas.
Seriously, the Dems, my party, could not beat the worst preznoit ever. That my freind, is a concern. Doing the same thing, but harder, will lead to further futility.
Happy New Year. PITME!!!!!!
RBO
You spreading the lie that Bush actually won shows what side you're on.
Now you tell us to compromise with the NeoConfederates. The willingness to compromise with the NeoConfederates is the corruption that undermines our cause.
No thanks for your bad attitude and bad advice. Maybe you can find some asshats at the DLC who will be sympathetic to your tired, worn-out ideas.
Can I run the Ministry of Cats in the Backslider administration?
Can I run the Ministry of Cats in the Backslider administration?
When you run for office, I will take off and run your campaign.
Hecate, when he does and you do, lemme know. The boy don't need a copywriter, that's for sure. But I could... y'know... file shit at the campaign HQ or something, straighten the stacks of bumperstickers, fetch y'all sandwiches...
Silleigh
Ooo, hey, can I be Undersecretary of the Chronic? Or at least Ambassador to the Netherlands?
When you run for office, I will take off and run your campaign.
Hecate, when he does and you do, lemme know. The boy don't need a copywriter, that's for sure. But I could... y'know... file shit at the campaign HQ or something, straighten the stacks of bumperstickers, fetch y'all sandwiches...
Silleigh
Ooo, hey, can I be Undersecretary of the Chronic? Or at least Ambassador to the Netherlands?
RBO
The only thing we on this site want to hear from you, is that you have enlisted to go fight in Iraq. Until you find the courage to do so, everything else you say is irrelevant.
Seeing as that won't happen, because like your great heroes...... The chickenhawks, you have a yellow streak that runs right through you.
Come back when you have found the courage to practice what you preach.
RBO
The only thing we on this site want to hear from you, is that you have enlisted to go fight in Iraq. Until you find the courage to do so, everything else you say is irrelevant.
Seeing as that won't happen, because like your great heroes...... The chickenhawks, you have a yellow streak that runs right through you.
Come back when you have found the courage to practice what you preach.
boy don't need a copywriter, that's for sure.
Right on, but he'll need us to run the campaign. I just want an invite to the inauguration because I think the music will be so darn good.
boy don't need a copywriter, that's for sure.
Right on, but he'll need us to run the campaign. I just want an invite to the inauguration because I think the music will be so darn good.
OT, but serious question--
What happened to Harold Ford, and why is he no longer on the SS Wall of Shame?
OT, but serious question--
What happened to Harold Ford, and why is he no longer on the SS Wall of Shame?
its the I LOVE RANDI RHODES SHOW show!!!!!!!
its the I LOVE RANDI RHODES SHOW show!!!!!!!
Visual Politics,
Your still shooting blanks. It's like watching someone puke on themselves, missing the target again and again.
Are you relying on the broken clock theory? If so, enjoy your two seconds of intellignet thought a day.
And cheering Backsliders "man the ramparts call?" Will you learn nothing? Do you want to be a loser your entire life? At least stand down and stop hurting the cause, a noble one, that you purport to support.
You want to help your cause, but you
unwittingly hurt it. Can you get your noggin around that? I know it hurts,
but you will only become a better person, a real Democrat, when you figure out how to help, not hurt.
Visual Politics,
Your still shooting blanks. It's like watching someone puke on themselves, missing the target again and again.
Are you relying on the broken clock theory? If so, enjoy your two seconds of intellignet thought a day.
And cheering Backsliders "man the ramparts call?" Will you learn nothing? Do you want to be a loser your entire life? At least stand down and stop hurting the cause, a noble one, that you purport to support.
You want to help your cause, but you
unwittingly hurt it. Can you get your noggin around that? I know it hurts,
but you will only become a better person, a real Democrat, when you figure out how to help, not hurt.
Okay, well I agree that the whole "reacting to the other guy's meme" is a really bad idea. That's true. The wingnuts made the whole gay marriage thing an issue, despite their whining about having it "shoved down their throat" (lovely imagery, by the way). What should've been done, when that whole stink kicked up, was just barrage 'em with "whys". Why they oppose gay marriage and not, say, outlawing adultry or divorce if they're concerned with the "sanctity of marriage". Frankly, it's all a bullshit issue, since marriage isn't "sacred" and never has been. And we've never been a "moral" people, for what that's worth, either.
Did the mayor in San Francisco over-react? Perhaps, but some would say the same about the Freedom Marchers in the fifties and sixties and the strikers in the '20s and '30s. Unfortunately, it seems you have to drag society kicking and screaming into present day and it's always been thus.
Soceity has never "come around" to any social change. Social change happens, time passes and it becomes the norm. You think anyone - be they a government or winner of the sperm lottery - gives up power willingly? Doesn't happen.
Personally, I'm not gonna be leading any marches for gay marriage, because I think marriage as a whole is a complete sham and a waste of emotion. But I don't see why I have to sit quiet about folks' basic human rights being used as political fungo ball. It's not a gay issue, just like affirmative action isn't a race issue or abortion is a woman's issue. It's all human rights issues.
If anything, Robbo, this whole issue proves to me one thing: that your party is just as corrupt, inept and basically weaselly as the Republicans. They're all gutless and more concerned with maintaining the status quo and little else. But hey...ain't that America?
Okay, well I agree that the whole "reacting to the other guy's meme" is a really bad idea. That's true. The wingnuts made the whole gay marriage thing an issue, despite their whining about having it "shoved down their throat" (lovely imagery, by the way). What should've been done, when that whole stink kicked up, was just barrage 'em with "whys". Why they oppose gay marriage and not, say, outlawing adultry or divorce if they're concerned with the "sanctity of marriage". Frankly, it's all a bullshit issue, since marriage isn't "sacred" and never has been. And we've never been a "moral" people, for what that's worth, either.
Did the mayor in San Francisco over-react? Perhaps, but some would say the same about the Freedom Marchers in the fifties and sixties and the strikers in the '20s and '30s. Unfortunately, it seems you have to drag society kicking and screaming into present day and it's always been thus.
Soceity has never "come around" to any social change. Social change happens, time passes and it becomes the norm. You think anyone - be they a government or winner of the sperm lottery - gives up power willingly? Doesn't happen.
Personally, I'm not gonna be leading any marches for gay marriage, because I think marriage as a whole is a complete sham and a waste of emotion. But I don't see why I have to sit quiet about folks' basic human rights being used as political fungo ball. It's not a gay issue, just like affirmative action isn't a race issue or abortion is a woman's issue. It's all human rights issues.
If anything, Robbo, this whole issue proves to me one thing: that your party is just as corrupt, inept and basically weaselly as the Republicans. They're all gutless and more concerned with maintaining the status quo and little else. But hey...ain't that America?
Pedant
Talking Points Memo recently ran something that put Ford in a better light.
Pedant
Talking Points Memo recently ran something that put Ford in a better light.
Which pisses me off, that you would hold such a high and mighty position amongst the confused, when you really might as well be working for the Republicans. - RBO
If he is working for the Republicans RBO, or more believably, if some of the reactionary invective here benefits them as you believe, what role do you really want to play? If youre a Republican then why bother to point out a tactical error on the other side?
Personally, I would be willing to concede quite a few points for the purpose of discussion in the service of bringing more reason to bear on the real issues that we need to deal with as human beings and Americans. Would you be willing ? Or are you content to survey the damage and calmly conclude theres nothing you can do about it?
Which pisses me off, that you would hold such a high and mighty position amongst the confused, when you really might as well be working for the Republicans. - RBO
If he is working for the Republicans RBO, or more believably, if some of the reactionary invective here benefits them as you believe, what role do you really want to play? If youre a Republican then why bother to point out a tactical error on the other side?
Personally, I would be willing to concede quite a few points for the purpose of discussion in the service of bringing more reason to bear on the real issues that we need to deal with as human beings and Americans. Would you be willing ? Or are you content to survey the damage and calmly conclude theres nothing you can do about it?
What happened to Harold Ford, and why is he no longer on the SS Wall of Shame?
He "clarified" his position.
What happened to Harold Ford, and why is he no longer on the SS Wall of Shame?
He "clarified" his position.
The music at a Backslider inaugural...
I'm getting the vapors just thinking...
The music at a Backslider inaugural...
I'm getting the vapors just thinking...
Gays have made extraordianry inroads in the country...
what is extraordinary, particularly in light of the thread-digression below over the meaning of meaning in the Pipes thread below, is how clearly word-choice indicates the subtle (or, not, depending) prejudices of the writer.
I refer to the term 'inroads', of course.
A less deprecatory, obviously, and one which honored the gains made by GBLT folks, would have been 'progress.' But dumber-than-dogshit instead chose a word which portrays the gains of GLBT folks somehow unsavory...
Now he will say that was not his intention, not what he meant. But what does that mean? the text itself betrays intention...
Gays have made extraordianry inroads in the country...
what is extraordinary, particularly in light of the thread-digression below over the meaning of meaning in the Pipes thread below, is how clearly word-choice indicates the subtle (or, not, depending) prejudices of the writer.
I refer to the term 'inroads', of course.
A less deprecatory, obviously, and one which honored the gains made by GBLT folks, would have been 'progress.' But dumber-than-dogshit instead chose a word which portrays the gains of GLBT folks somehow unsavory...
Now he will say that was not his intention, not what he meant. But what does that mean? the text itself betrays intention...
Tx John.
Tx John.
Dr.Pedant, because Ford issued a statement that he does not support Bush's plans for "fixing" Social Security.
Happy New Year everyone
Dr.Pedant, because Ford issued a statement that he does not support Bush's plans for "fixing" Social Security.
Happy New Year everyone
RBO,
your last post was utterly lacking in content. Nothing, zero, zilch. It's all focused on me and what a loser you think I am. Have you got anything to say?
RBO,
your last post was utterly lacking in content. Nothing, zero, zilch. It's all focused on me and what a loser you think I am. Have you got anything to say?
Simels is Minister of Music in the Backslider Administration. I'd like to be the Secretary of Sexual Healing. (If Bush can create a Department of Homeland Security, surely Backslider can create a Department of Sexual Healing.)
Simels is Minister of Music in the Backslider Administration. I'd like to be the Secretary of Sexual Healing. (If Bush can create a Department of Homeland Security, surely Backslider can create a Department of Sexual Healing.)
I don't know what you all are going on about, but I thought Vaara's 2005 forecast was very funny.
I don't know what you all are going on about, but I thought Vaara's 2005 forecast was very funny.
Well, actually....
Ford was forced to back off when his support of the Bush privatization scam hurt him more than it helped.
Of course, Ford will do whatever it takes to promote himself as Crypto-Republican.
Well, actually....
Ford was forced to back off when his support of the Bush privatization scam hurt him more than it helped.
Of course, Ford will do whatever it takes to promote himself as Crypto-Republican.
Have you got anything to say?
I think he's trying to say he's not a bad father. Really. Really he's not.
Have you got anything to say?
I think he's trying to say he's not a bad father. Really. Really he's not.
randi is having a best of, of ALL her shows ever, from even before air america!!!
randi is having a best of, of ALL her shows ever, from even before air america!!!
Vicki:
Thanks for the nomination.
And happy new year!!!!
Vicki:
Thanks for the nomination.
And happy new year!!!!
I just want an invite to the inauguration because I think the music will be so darn good.
How could I have forgotten THAT fringe bennie?
I just want an invite to the inauguration because I think the music will be so darn good.
How could I have forgotten THAT fringe bennie?
I'd like to be the Secretary of Sexual Healing. ...
Vicki
Vicky, great idea, but I'd prefer to see you as an under-secretary for Dr. Susan Block.. She's been at it for a long time.
I'd like to be the Secretary of Sexual Healing. ...
Vicki
Vicky, great idea, but I'd prefer to see you as an under-secretary for Dr. Susan Block.. She's been at it for a long time.
Happy New Year to you, too, Steve, and everyone else here today!
Happy New Year to you, too, Steve, and everyone else here today!
Tx, all.
Tx, all.
At least stand down and stop hurting the cause, a noble one, that you purport to support.
Yeah, just relax and bend over. You'll learn to enjoy this. Really.
Oh, RBO, here's that link for you.
At least stand down and stop hurting the cause, a noble one, that you purport to support.
Yeah, just relax and bend over. You'll learn to enjoy this. Really.
Oh, RBO, here's that link for you.
If nothing else, the cabinet meetings will be a blast!!
If nothing else, the cabinet meetings will be a blast!!
"Secretary of Sexual Healing"? Fuck, yeah! Your ass is going to be busy!
"Secretary of Sexual Healing"? Fuck, yeah! Your ass is going to be busy!
Ewwww...thanks for the link! Now I'm going to get 50 million emails spamming me about sex!
Ewwww...thanks for the link! Now I'm going to get 50 million emails spamming me about sex!
If nothing else, the cabinet meetings will be a blast!!
You all enjoy. I'll be Sleeping In.
If nothing else, the cabinet meetings will be a blast!!
You all enjoy. I'll be Sleeping In.
Backslider:
Please consider me for the post of Secretary of the Department of Inflammatory Hermeneutics...
Backslider:
Please consider me for the post of Secretary of the Department of Inflammatory Hermeneutics...
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
"Secretary of Sexual Healing"? Fuck, yeah! Your ass is going to be busy!
waterspeakblood
I want to help the millions of repressed Americans who voted for Bush based on the issue of morals. I want to help them from the bottom of my heart. They need to get laid, and to get comfortable with getting laid.
"Secretary of Sexual Healing"? Fuck, yeah! Your ass is going to be busy!
waterspeakblood
I want to help the millions of repressed Americans who voted for Bush based on the issue of morals. I want to help them from the bottom of my heart. They need to get laid, and to get comfortable with getting laid.
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
No, you're elected by acclamation. Now, start ducking...
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
No, you're elected by acclamation. Now, start ducking...
Our troll claiming to be a Dem is like those folks who, before the election, started their comments with, "I have been a life-long democrat, but I will be voting for George Bush because..."
Our troll claiming to be a Dem is like those folks who, before the election, started their comments with, "I have been a life-long democrat, but I will be voting for George Bush because..."
Sally,
When I need advice from a rube, I'll get in touch.
And Steve,
Did ya ever think that some in the Democratic party might not toe your line? That were unhappy with the Kerry campaign? That might think that his failure to unseat the worst president ever was indicative of a major flaw? I am a Democrat. Sorry. But not everyone is sticking with the failed ways of the past. I hate Bush frankly, but hate doth not make a winning campaign. But hey, from what I can see, this is not the place to start the renaissance. There will be no revolution if your tired, failed, and doomed to fail again ways prevail.
Study how the gays have reacted to the Bush victory. You could learn alot from there methods. Nobody has succeeded like they have in going mainstream.
So, take your pith helmet off for a sec, and study success, lest your own repetive foolery deem you insane.
Me, I am a nut!
Time for a binger.
Sally,
When I need advice from a rube, I'll get in touch.
And Steve,
Did ya ever think that some in the Democratic party might not toe your line? That were unhappy with the Kerry campaign? That might think that his failure to unseat the worst president ever was indicative of a major flaw? I am a Democrat. Sorry. But not everyone is sticking with the failed ways of the past. I hate Bush frankly, but hate doth not make a winning campaign. But hey, from what I can see, this is not the place to start the renaissance. There will be no revolution if your tired, failed, and doomed to fail again ways prevail.
Study how the gays have reacted to the Bush victory. You could learn alot from there methods. Nobody has succeeded like they have in going mainstream.
So, take your pith helmet off for a sec, and study success, lest your own repetive foolery deem you insane.
Me, I am a nut!
Time for a binger.
Backslider, can I be Secretary of Ferret Health and Happiness?
A.
Backslider, can I be Secretary of Ferret Health and Happiness?
A.
Vicki:
BTW, the concensus among the Eschaton
regulars at Wednesday's meet and greet
was that you and you know who were
probably gonna you know what this
year.
Just saying....
Vicki:
BTW, the concensus among the Eschaton
regulars at Wednesday's meet and greet
was that you and you know who were
probably gonna you know what this
year.
Just saying....
are you all following the daily howler v kevin drum story?
its GRIPPING!!!
are you all following the daily howler v kevin drum story?
its GRIPPING!!!
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
Backslider
Whatever you want, dear.
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
Backslider
Whatever you want, dear.
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
Hell no!! Go look pretty for the camera, now!!
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
Hell no!! Go look pretty for the camera, now!!
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
No, you're elected by acclamation. Now, start ducking...
waterspeakblood | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:24 pm | #
Figures. Story of my life.
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
No, you're elected by acclamation. Now, start ducking...
waterspeakblood | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:24 pm | #
Figures. Story of my life.
In Re: that which posts as RBO...
I liked filkertom's exclamation:
Cully, when we want your opinion about anything, we'll gut you and read your entrails...
In Re: that which posts as RBO...
I liked filkertom's exclamation:
Cully, when we want your opinion about anything, we'll gut you and read your entrails...
Bob Somerby is a national treasure.
Bob Somerby is a national treasure.
They need to get laid, and to get comfortable with getting laid.
Oh my, yes. I think we would all breathe easier - and with that happy thought, HNY to the Atrios-enabled community...
They need to get laid, and to get comfortable with getting laid.
Oh my, yes. I think we would all breathe easier - and with that happy thought, HNY to the Atrios-enabled community...
As long as we are getting a cabinet together, I recommend an former Eschatonian, tbogg, as the Secretary of Snark.
As long as we are getting a cabinet together, I recommend an former Eschatonian, tbogg, as the Secretary of Snark.
RBO:
You're not fooling anybody. Everything
you write is either illogical or a
transparent lie.
Go the fuck away.
RBO:
You're not fooling anybody. Everything
you write is either illogical or a
transparent lie.
Go the fuck away.
They need to get laid, and to get comfortable with getting laid.
Oh my, yes. I think we would all breathe easier -
Hey, I'm in line, here. Hey!
They need to get laid, and to get comfortable with getting laid.
Oh my, yes. I think we would all breathe easier -
Hey, I'm in line, here. Hey!
TBogg started here?
I did not know that.....
TBogg started here?
I did not know that.....
Figures. Story of my life.
As a fellow bass player and therefore, rhythym section guy, I know you are used to "taking one for the team"...
Figures. Story of my life.
As a fellow bass player and therefore, rhythym section guy, I know you are used to "taking one for the team"...
Steve,
LOL!
Would that it will be...would that it will be. It's possible if you know who wants to...I have no problem with the concept of actually making it happen, if you know what I mean. Sorry to be cryptic...I just don't want to jinx the possibility.
Steve,
LOL!
Would that it will be...would that it will be. It's possible if you know who wants to...I have no problem with the concept of actually making it happen, if you know what I mean. Sorry to be cryptic...I just don't want to jinx the possibility.
Vicki and Steve,
May I nominate myself for the cabinet post of Minister of Sniffing Out Exposed Naughty Body Parts And Putting Tasteful Drapery Over Them? SOENBPAPTDOT?
I fear this post will go unfilled, so I volunteer to step in and search this great and glorious land for anything that may look like Janet Jackson's nipple or a Large Full Manly Basket.
Remember, no job will be too small for me.
Reporting for Duty.
Vicki and Steve,
May I nominate myself for the cabinet post of Minister of Sniffing Out Exposed Naughty Body Parts And Putting Tasteful Drapery Over Them? SOENBPAPTDOT?
I fear this post will go unfilled, so I volunteer to step in and search this great and glorious land for anything that may look like Janet Jackson's nipple or a Large Full Manly Basket.
Remember, no job will be too small for me.
Reporting for Duty.
They need to get laid, and to get comfortable with getting laid.
What they really need is to be comfortable with other people getting laid.
A.
They need to get laid, and to get comfortable with getting laid.
What they really need is to be comfortable with other people getting laid.
A.
Remember, no job will be too small for me.
Remember, no job will be too small for me.
the concensus among the Eschaton
regulars at Wednesday's meet and greet
was that you and you know who were
probably gonna you know what this
year.
Now I'm confused. If this movie is what I think it is, the role of me is now being played by Kathleen Turner. And frankly, I don't have the hips.
PS: V and k, really I'm rooting for you two.
the concensus among the Eschaton
regulars at Wednesday's meet and greet
was that you and you know who were
probably gonna you know what this
year.
Now I'm confused. If this movie is what I think it is, the role of me is now being played by Kathleen Turner. And frankly, I don't have the hips.
PS: V and k, really I'm rooting for you two.
RBO,
Ruinous Body Odor.
Looks like troll, Smells like troll, Tastes like troll.
I'm a Republican.
Which of these things is true?
e pluribus unum
RBO,
Ruinous Body Odor.
Looks like troll, Smells like troll, Tastes like troll.
I'm a Republican.
Which of these things is true?
e pluribus unum
"Okay, well I agree that the whole "reacting to the other guy's meme" is a really bad idea. That's true. "
Back,
I apolgize for being a Democrat of a different color. I believe in dialectic and appreciate your response however. The Dewms got crushed last year when it came to controlling the debate. Just crushed. That to me was teh biggest problem. Getting straw manned to death and leaping on every red herring as if it was Moby's Dick.
We need to learn to respond with the word "Perhaps." To emasculate the loudmouths.
"Okay, well I agree that the whole "reacting to the other guy's meme" is a really bad idea. That's true. "
Back,
I apolgize for being a Democrat of a different color. I believe in dialectic and appreciate your response however. The Dewms got crushed last year when it came to controlling the debate. Just crushed. That to me was teh biggest problem. Getting straw manned to death and leaping on every red herring as if it was Moby's Dick.
We need to learn to respond with the word "Perhaps." To emasculate the loudmouths.
Well, tbogg was fluid with the snark both here and Salon's Table Talk.
Well, tbogg was fluid with the snark both here and Salon's Table Talk.
Ewwww...thanks for the link! Now I'm going to get 50 million emails spamming me about sex!
Vicki
Vicki, don't worry, she's not a porn-star, she's an PhD from Yale. This woman is really very educated and deliberate about her open sexuality.
For any that missed the link:
Dr. Susan Block.
Ewwww...thanks for the link! Now I'm going to get 50 million emails spamming me about sex!
Vicki
Vicki, don't worry, she's not a porn-star, she's an PhD from Yale. This woman is really very educated and deliberate about her open sexuality.
For any that missed the link:
Dr. Susan Block.
As a fellow bass player and therefore, rhythym section guy, I know you are used to "taking one for the team"...
waterspeakblood | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:31 pm | #
Ain't that the sad, sorry truth. Swear to god the next band I'm in, I'm gonna be the lazy one. I actually know a bass player who gets away with that, but that's only because the front man/guitarist is a complete control freak (in a good way, band-wise).
As a fellow bass player and therefore, rhythym section guy, I know you are used to "taking one for the team"...
waterspeakblood | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:31 pm | #
Ain't that the sad, sorry truth. Swear to god the next band I'm in, I'm gonna be the lazy one. I actually know a bass player who gets away with that, but that's only because the front man/guitarist is a complete control freak (in a good way, band-wise).
I build long-term relationships with clients whom I respect and trust. Hey, Robert - a Mr. Scaife just called - he said you didn't lick the last drop off your lips, so he's cancelling your 'grant'. If you want to try again, call him at one of his other 'recipients' - 800/282-2882.
I build long-term relationships with clients whom I respect and trust. Hey, Robert - a Mr. Scaife just called - he said you didn't lick the last drop off your lips, so he's cancelling your 'grant'. If you want to try again, call him at one of his other 'recipients' - 800/282-2882.
Yes, this is a nice thread! Just let me know when the cabinet "positions" are all decided, we'll be expecting photos and step-by -step instruction. The kama sutra of Eschatonian love.
oh, is it time for cats yet?
Yes, this is a nice thread! Just let me know when the cabinet "positions" are all decided, we'll be expecting photos and step-by -step instruction. The kama sutra of Eschatonian love.
oh, is it time for cats yet?
Steve,
sadly, you appear blind, led by the blind, and leading the blind. whatever.
it's your sandbox.
Steve,
sadly, you appear blind, led by the blind, and leading the blind. whatever.
it's your sandbox.
What I like is when my guitarist hits a "clam" and then looks at me like I did it.
What I like is when my guitarist hits a "clam" and then looks at me like I did it.
We need to learn to respond with the word "Perhaps." To emasculate the loudmouths.
RBO
RBO, you're dead wrong. Dems need to purge the party of people who are afraid to say the truth in uncompromising language. No more daschle, gephardt, DLC chicken-shits! Time to stand up.
We need to learn to respond with the word "Perhaps." To emasculate the loudmouths.
RBO
RBO, you're dead wrong. Dems need to purge the party of people who are afraid to say the truth in uncompromising language. No more daschle, gephardt, DLC chicken-shits! Time to stand up.
waterspeakblood, Backslider
Have you guys noticed how just plain kick ass the early Bill Wyman "2120 South Michigan Avenue" or Paul McCartney "I Saw Her Standing There" bass lines were?
Especially for the early 60's?
Their fingers must have been like little serpents flying around the fretboard.
waterspeakblood, Backslider
Have you guys noticed how just plain kick ass the early Bill Wyman "2120 South Michigan Avenue" or Paul McCartney "I Saw Her Standing There" bass lines were?
Especially for the early 60's?
Their fingers must have been like little serpents flying around the fretboard.
Keep the pressure on the Bush administration! We got it up from 35 mil to 350! Of course, they probably won't see a dime of it...
Keep the pressure on the Bush administration! We got it up from 35 mil to 350! Of course, they probably won't see a dime of it...
I don't care what color Democrat you are. Get this, Chester: I'm not a Democrat, okay? I'm a progressive liberal, so yeah, this time around, I hooked up with that mule train. But I'm not a party man. That shit doesn't fly with me, son. You outlaw pose doesn't register, but I hope it works out for ya.
And I don't know from "perhaps". "Perhaps" what? "Perhaps you're right, 40% of America, and perhaps we should target native-born Muslism for scrutiny so you won't be as scared." That sort of perhaps? I don't agree. How about this, "Perhaps, but is this really an issue or the best way to solve the problem? Why do you think so? Look, here's the economy, let's work on that..." and so forth and so on.
I'm not really getting what you're saying, obviously. Are you saying the Democrats - and by fiat, I suppose, liberals and progressives actually interested in the political process - should just agree with whatever wingding idea Republicans use to stir up the herd just to aid in the git-along? If so, I don't want to be a part of your Democratic party, thanks. Now, if you mean picking the battles, sure, I can go with that. What battles do you propose?
I don't care what color Democrat you are. Get this, Chester: I'm not a Democrat, okay? I'm a progressive liberal, so yeah, this time around, I hooked up with that mule train. But I'm not a party man. That shit doesn't fly with me, son. You outlaw pose doesn't register, but I hope it works out for ya.
And I don't know from "perhaps". "Perhaps" what? "Perhaps you're right, 40% of America, and perhaps we should target native-born Muslism for scrutiny so you won't be as scared." That sort of perhaps? I don't agree. How about this, "Perhaps, but is this really an issue or the best way to solve the problem? Why do you think so? Look, here's the economy, let's work on that..." and so forth and so on.
I'm not really getting what you're saying, obviously. Are you saying the Democrats - and by fiat, I suppose, liberals and progressives actually interested in the political process - should just agree with whatever wingding idea Republicans use to stir up the herd just to aid in the git-along? If so, I don't want to be a part of your Democratic party, thanks. Now, if you mean picking the battles, sure, I can go with that. What battles do you propose?
I was wondering if the ticket to winning for Dems would be to finance candidates to the right of bush. Right now, the repubs get away with getting the votes of all the vile, extreme right wingers, whose views are best expressed by the assortment of reptilian blogs and Dr. Weener types on the radio. Most "regular" folks are pretty ignorant of how extreme these people's views are. Let's peel off that vote, and force the repubs to denounce the "extremist" views of their opponents. Right now they are having it both ways, or maybe several ways.
I was wondering if the ticket to winning for Dems would be to finance candidates to the right of bush. Right now, the repubs get away with getting the votes of all the vile, extreme right wingers, whose views are best expressed by the assortment of reptilian blogs and Dr. Weener types on the radio. Most "regular" folks are pretty ignorant of how extreme these people's views are. Let's peel off that vote, and force the repubs to denounce the "extremist" views of their opponents. Right now they are having it both ways, or maybe several ways.
What I like is when my guitarist hits a "clam" and then looks at me like I did it.
waterspeakblood | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:36 pm | #
Dude, you're reading my mail.
LOL.
What I like is when my guitarist hits a "clam" and then looks at me like I did it.
waterspeakblood | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:36 pm | #
Dude, you're reading my mail.
LOL.
Think of trolls as like bears. Now, what must one not do with bears? Hmmm...I think it's "feed them". Otherwise, you get more bears.
Just sayin'
Think of trolls as like bears. Now, what must one not do with bears? Hmmm...I think it's "feed them". Otherwise, you get more bears.
Just sayin'
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
GWPDA's been TRYING to tell you that the draft is on the way. We're just starting it early and a little differently. So, no, you get NO say, O Venerated Yet Reluctant Leader.
Excuse me, do I have a say in this whole president business?
GWPDA's been TRYING to tell you that the draft is on the way. We're just starting it early and a little differently. So, no, you get NO say, O Venerated Yet Reluctant Leader.
Mar 3, 2005 - in an interview live from Guantanamo Bay, Bush slays a teenage afghani boy with a sword thrust up his butt. He then passes out in a drunken stupor.
Male pundits swoon with envy, speak longingly of his machismo. Female pundits think the drunken coma is 'cute'.
Mar 3, 2005 - in an interview live from Guantanamo Bay, Bush slays a teenage afghani boy with a sword thrust up his butt. He then passes out in a drunken stupor.
Male pundits swoon with envy, speak longingly of his machismo. Female pundits think the drunken coma is 'cute'.
Dr. Pedant,
I don't see so many eager right-wingers who want to crash our party. I've noticed right-wingers have a tendency to avoid debate. They always kick liberals out of their forums. Does anyone know of a right-wing forum where I can kick their ass and not get banned?
Dr. Pedant,
I don't see so many eager right-wingers who want to crash our party. I've noticed right-wingers have a tendency to avoid debate. They always kick liberals out of their forums. Does anyone know of a right-wing forum where I can kick their ass and not get banned?
Wildebeest,
Wyman and McCartney were both awesome in their respective bands, but I've never been turned on by their solo work. Nevertheless, them, Entwhsitle and Jack Bruce (among others, of course) changed rock & roll bass. They made it a melodic instrument as well as a rhythmic. Granted, they had the benefit of improved technology, but still...and it all goes back to James Jamerson, of course.
My personal favorite Brit bass man is still Ronnie Lane of The Faces. Never fails to completely blow me away.
Wildebeest,
Wyman and McCartney were both awesome in their respective bands, but I've never been turned on by their solo work. Nevertheless, them, Entwhsitle and Jack Bruce (among others, of course) changed rock & roll bass. They made it a melodic instrument as well as a rhythmic. Granted, they had the benefit of improved technology, but still...and it all goes back to James Jamerson, of course.
My personal favorite Brit bass man is still Ronnie Lane of The Faces. Never fails to completely blow me away.
Backslider,
I bet you'd actually answer questions at your press conferences.
You are my new hero.
Backslider,
I bet you'd actually answer questions at your press conferences.
You are my new hero.
Wildebeest - Yes. McCartney is just a master of fluid, melodic bass lines - he makes me smile a lot, although I don't particularly favor that style of bass playing. Shows his guitarist roots. The guy that kills me (lately) is Charlie Hunter, playing both guitar and bass on the same instrument - and keeping it original and fresh.
Wildebeest - Yes. McCartney is just a master of fluid, melodic bass lines - he makes me smile a lot, although I don't particularly favor that style of bass playing. Shows his guitarist roots. The guy that kills me (lately) is Charlie Hunter, playing both guitar and bass on the same instrument - and keeping it original and fresh.
concerning clams,
fire one right back at em
concerning clams,
fire one right back at em
Vicki,
Damn straight. I'd enjoy it, too, I think, until some raving dingbat from Boez, Alabama, shot me.
Vicki,
Damn straight. I'd enjoy it, too, I think, until some raving dingbat from Boez, Alabama, shot me.
Backslider:
Chris White of the Zombies too.
Backslider:
Chris White of the Zombies too.
Oh, and Pete Quaife of the early Kinks
and Paul Samwell-Smith of the Yardbirds.
Killers, both of them...
Oh, and Pete Quaife of the early Kinks
and Paul Samwell-Smith of the Yardbirds.
Killers, both of them...
Vicki,
Damn straight. I'd enjoy it, too, I think, until some raving dingbat from Boez, Alabama, shot me.
Backslider
We won't let that happen, not with me and Paul Simon (aka "you can call me Al") as your bodyguards
Vicki,
Damn straight. I'd enjoy it, too, I think, until some raving dingbat from Boez, Alabama, shot me.
Backslider
We won't let that happen, not with me and Paul Simon (aka "you can call me Al") as your bodyguards
Now, what must one not do with bears?
Quadratic equations.
Now, what must one not do with bears?
Quadratic equations.
Hey trolls, how's your Iraq war going?
Hey hey, whatda ya say...
How many of our boys did you kill today?
Hey trolls, how's your Iraq war going?
Hey hey, whatda ya say...
How many of our boys did you kill today?
Now, what must one not do with bears?
Wear my Picnic Basket underpants!
Now, what must one not do with bears?
Wear my Picnic Basket underpants!
Wyman and McCartney were both awesome in their respective bands, but I've never been turned on by their solo work.
Their later work never happened in my book of common knowledge.
Faces' "Had Me A Real Good Time" makes me sad that I never got to witness a sweaty, drunken club gig of theirs.
I did see Muddy in college shortly before he died.
And Jamerson. He suffered the quintessential bassman's fate.
Unappreciated genius.
Wyman and McCartney were both awesome in their respective bands, but I've never been turned on by their solo work.
Their later work never happened in my book of common knowledge.
Faces' "Had Me A Real Good Time" makes me sad that I never got to witness a sweaty, drunken club gig of theirs.
I did see Muddy in college shortly before he died.
And Jamerson. He suffered the quintessential bassman's fate.
Unappreciated genius.
Dr. Pedant - Think of trolls as like bears
An insult to every bear I ever saw or knew, including the one that broke into my house and trashed it utterly.
Dr. Pedant - Think of trolls as like bears
An insult to every bear I ever saw or knew, including the one that broke into my house and trashed it utterly.
Hey Thersites:
Happy New Year, dude!
Hey Thersites:
Happy New Year, dude!
rewritten torture memo!!!
http://tinyurl.com/3t6nk
rewritten torture memo!!!
http://tinyurl.com/3t6nk
Can Liddy Dole be the secretary of interior?
Can Liddy Dole be the secretary of interior?
Chris White of the Zombies too.
Oh, and Pete Quaife of the early Kinks
and Paul Samwell-Smith of the Yardbirds.
Let's take it back to the back, shall we?
Willie Dixon
Chris White of the Zombies too.
Oh, and Pete Quaife of the early Kinks
and Paul Samwell-Smith of the Yardbirds.
Let's take it back to the back, shall we?
Willie Dixon
Now, what must one not do with bears?
Quadratic equations.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:51 pm | #
You don't know that. They might enjoy them immensely. Maybe higher maths just come to them naturally, therefor they don't have to waste time in college and can put more energy into finding pickanic baskets.
Now, what must one not do with bears?
Quadratic equations.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:51 pm | #
You don't know that. They might enjoy them immensely. Maybe higher maths just come to them naturally, therefor they don't have to waste time in college and can put more energy into finding pickanic baskets.
Can Liddy Dole be the secretary of interior?
bebe rebozo
Ha!
Can Liddy Dole be the secretary of interior?
bebe rebozo
Ha!
I guess trolls are sort of like bears, even more like bores, and not really at all like beers.
I guess trolls are sort of like bears, even more like bores, and not really at all like beers.
Hi y'all,
Happy whatever it is you dig, and stay safe tonight. It has been therapeutic to lurk and occasionally stick my nose in this past year and change.
Thanks to all who contribute!
Now, to my point.
Has RBO - whatever it's name is - ...
ever explained why it is that a large percentage of Bush's supporters "have their heads up their own asses"?
(By that I mean still believe in things like Iraqi involvement with 9/11, and other such things?)
I mean, how do you get around that?
You can't institute a test for voting, thanks to VRA1964.
Hi y'all,
Happy whatever it is you dig, and stay safe tonight. It has been therapeutic to lurk and occasionally stick my nose in this past year and change.
Thanks to all who contribute!
Now, to my point.
Has RBO - whatever it's name is - ...
ever explained why it is that a large percentage of Bush's supporters "have their heads up their own asses"?
(By that I mean still believe in things like Iraqi involvement with 9/11, and other such things?)
I mean, how do you get around that?
You can't institute a test for voting, thanks to VRA1964.
Matt, great cartoon on your site.
Matt, great cartoon on your site.
Let's take it back to the back, shall we?
Willie Dixon
waterspeakblood | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:54 pm | #
Hell, yeah.
And whoever played on Ritchie
Valens' La Bamba.
Let's take it back to the back, shall we?
Willie Dixon
waterspeakblood | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:54 pm | #
Hell, yeah.
And whoever played on Ritchie
Valens' La Bamba.
Visual Politics - Thanks!
Visual Politics - Thanks!
I did see Muddy in college shortly before he died.
His son, Big Bill Morganfield, tours around - he is going to play in my area in a week or so, I think. He's got the stuff.
I did see Muddy in college shortly before he died.
His son, Big Bill Morganfield, tours around - he is going to play in my area in a week or so, I think. He's got the stuff.
And whoever played on Ritchie
Valens' La Bamba.
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:58 pm | #
I forget who that actually is, but the drummer man on that was New Orleans great Earl Palmer, who played on a lot of Little Richard and Fats Domino tunes. He is the man.
And whoever played on Ritchie
Valens' La Bamba.
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 3:58 pm | #
I forget who that actually is, but the drummer man on that was New Orleans great Earl Palmer, who played on a lot of Little Richard and Fats Domino tunes. He is the man.
Backslider:
Did not know that. Wow.
Happy New Year, Mr. President!!!
Backslider:
Did not know that. Wow.
Happy New Year, Mr. President!!!
And whoever played on Ritchie
Valens' La Bamba.
steve simels
Interesting how that tune morphs seamlessy into Twist and Shout.
And whoever played on Ritchie
Valens' La Bamba.
steve simels
Interesting how that tune morphs seamlessy into Twist and Shout.
I mean, how do you get around that?
You can't. The problem with the current dynamic is in a debate over issues or ideas, you opponent much be able to recognize truth and the facts and if they're wrong, adjust accordingly. That's not the case anymore. The wingers have been so propaganized to what I think it utter babbling derangment. You see example of them trolling here waxing retarded.
That's one of their tactics. Another is simply ignore your point like it doesn't exist. Another tactic is to rationalize their argument or behaivor. They're bound and determined to only believe what they only want to believe. The last is probably they're so stupid with bad genes and all they're too stupid to get out of the rain so it makes it hard to explain complex ideas or anything over an 8th grade level.
I mean, how do you get around that?
You can't. The problem with the current dynamic is in a debate over issues or ideas, you opponent much be able to recognize truth and the facts and if they're wrong, adjust accordingly. That's not the case anymore. The wingers have been so propaganized to what I think it utter babbling derangment. You see example of them trolling here waxing retarded.
That's one of their tactics. Another is simply ignore your point like it doesn't exist. Another tactic is to rationalize their argument or behaivor. They're bound and determined to only believe what they only want to believe. The last is probably they're so stupid with bad genes and all they're too stupid to get out of the rain so it makes it hard to explain complex ideas or anything over an 8th grade level.
Bass Player ... 2 words: Jaco Pastorius
Bass Player ... 2 words: Jaco Pastorius
great DemocracyNOW! today
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
great DemocracyNOW! today
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
steve simels,
Now you know. He also played on Eddie Cochran's "Somethin' Else", Bobby Day's original version of "Rockin' Robin" and Etta James "Dance With Me Henry". You find me a drummer with a sense of time, and I don't give a shit how good the rest of the band is.
steve simels,
Now you know. He also played on Eddie Cochran's "Somethin' Else", Bobby Day's original version of "Rockin' Robin" and Etta James "Dance With Me Henry". You find me a drummer with a sense of time, and I don't give a shit how good the rest of the band is.
You can't institute a test for voting, thanks to VRA1964.
And to be clear, I think that's a good thing from a civil rights perspective.
You can't institute a test for voting, thanks to VRA1964.
And to be clear, I think that's a good thing from a civil rights perspective.
John Mayer (Your body is a wonderland) went to his alma mater Fairfield High to accept an award, and they hustled him back out into his car. Security reasons.
John Mayer (Your body is a wonderland) went to his alma mater Fairfield High to accept an award, and they hustled him back out into his car. Security reasons.
I have always thought a band is only as good as the drummer is...
I have always thought a band is only as good as the drummer is...
And they'll never change no matter how bad things are becoming or how many of our troops get their guts blow out.
And they'll never change no matter how bad things are becoming or how many of our troops get their guts blow out.
they are playin the clip of randi vs oliver north!!!!
they are playin the clip of randi vs oliver north!!!!
Backslider:
He played on "Something Else"?
Holy shit.
Backslider:
He played on "Something Else"?
Holy shit.
Muddy lived next door to a high school classmate in Westmont IL. He'd let us in and watch him jam with his friends. Got to see some rock celebs come by and play as well. Never seen anyone sing with the power of Muddy Waters. Kicked ass on the slide as well.
My favorite show was about 10,000 folks watching him on a side stage on Navy Peir about mid 70's when Jane Byrne was mayor. It was electric. We weasled our way up right next to the stage.
Muddy lived next door to a high school classmate in Westmont IL. He'd let us in and watch him jam with his friends. Got to see some rock celebs come by and play as well. Never seen anyone sing with the power of Muddy Waters. Kicked ass on the slide as well.
My favorite show was about 10,000 folks watching him on a side stage on Navy Peir about mid 70's when Jane Byrne was mayor. It was electric. We weasled our way up right next to the stage.
John Mayer (Your body is a wonderland) went to his alma mater Fairfield High to accept an award, and they hustled him back out into his car. Security reasons.
Sue | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 4:11 pm | #
The singer? I don't blame 'em. I can't guarantee I'd drop the peace-loving thing were I in his prescence for more than was absolutely neccessary.
John Mayer (Your body is a wonderland) went to his alma mater Fairfield High to accept an award, and they hustled him back out into his car. Security reasons.
Sue | Email | Homepage | 12.31.04 - 4:11 pm | #
The singer? I don't blame 'em. I can't guarantee I'd drop the peace-loving thing were I in his prescence for more than was absolutely neccessary.
Victor Wooten is one of the best *showman* bassists I've seen.
Very percussive too, which Wyman and McCartney eschewed for the sake of pure melody.
Victor Wooten is one of the best *showman* bassists I've seen.
Very percussive too, which Wyman and McCartney eschewed for the sake of pure melody.
I have always thought a band is only as good as the drummer is...
waterspeakblood
That's pretty much been true for most of the bands I've been associated with.
I have always thought a band is only as good as the drummer is...
waterspeakblood
That's pretty much been true for most of the bands I've been associated with.
Mark: I've had the pleasure of playing with a few of the old guys on a rare occasion or two (Sam Lay, Hubert Sumlin, Willie King)...and a more open, accepting attitude would be hard to find. I suck on bass, I will never be a good bass player, but they treated me like "one of the guys". Nice.
Mark: I've had the pleasure of playing with a few of the old guys on a rare occasion or two (Sam Lay, Hubert Sumlin, Willie King)...and a more open, accepting attitude would be hard to find. I suck on bass, I will never be a good bass player, but they treated me like "one of the guys". Nice.
Backslider - what do you think of Paul Kattner as a bassist? I always thought he was extremely good.
Backslider - what do you think of Paul Kattner as a bassist? I always thought he was extremely good.
Gotta go for some early geriatric
partying.
Happy New Year to everybody here
except the trolls.
You've kept me semi-sane this year
and I owe you all.
Gotta go for some early geriatric
partying.
Happy New Year to everybody here
except the trolls.
You've kept me semi-sane this year
and I owe you all.
this randi vs oliver north is really instructive.
he lies & lies
& when she points out his lies
he says "you dont like the constitution!"
this randi vs oliver north is really instructive.
he lies & lies
& when she points out his lies
he says "you dont like the constitution!"
the drummer for Carcass is truly great
the drummer for Carcass is truly great
I suck on bass, I will never be a good bass player, but they treated me like "one of the guys". Nice.
waterspeakblood
Me too, WSB, but I "keep it moving" as Johnny Lennon remarked of his rhythm guitar proficiency.
Plus, I never stop trying to get better.
I suck on bass, I will never be a good bass player, but they treated me like "one of the guys". Nice.
waterspeakblood
Me too, WSB, but I "keep it moving" as Johnny Lennon remarked of his rhythm guitar proficiency.
Plus, I never stop trying to get better.
Tena,
Paul Kattner? I'm not familiar with the name. Do you mean the Jefferson Airplane guy? Wait, that's Jack Casady (who's good, if a bit too San Fran flower power stuff for my tastes).
Tena,
Paul Kattner? I'm not familiar with the name. Do you mean the Jefferson Airplane guy? Wait, that's Jack Casady (who's good, if a bit too San Fran flower power stuff for my tastes).
Anybody got a spare MP3 of some bassist doing a descent job of Eddie's "Eruption"? I know there are some floating around, but I'd love to possess one.
Anybody got a spare MP3 of some bassist doing a descent job of Eddie's "Eruption"? I know there are some floating around, but I'd love to possess one.
North would use that "how many people in this (courtroom) have been shot at?" defence in a speeding ticket case....when does that give free pass at criminality
North would use that "how many people in this (courtroom) have been shot at?" defence in a speeding ticket case....when does that give free pass at criminality
backslider - you're right - it's Jack Casady. I really considered him just a righteous bass player, and never mind the rest of the band if you don't like that kind of thing.
Sorry I got confused over who was who. Man, is my age showing, or what?
backslider - you're right - it's Jack Casady. I really considered him just a righteous bass player, and never mind the rest of the band if you don't like that kind of thing.
Sorry I got confused over who was who. Man, is my age showing, or what?
I meant decent, DOH!
I meant decent, DOH!
Incog,
Thanks for the uplifting-ness! I feel better already.
Oh yeah. Forgot something on a thread a few days back.
If'n things in LA get too unpleasant for you and String, you should come to MA.
It's cold(warmer than Canada!), and the state is kinda uptight about personal artillery compared to many.
But in the plus side, you can say
"Massatwoshits" and nobody can give you flak.
And wedding planners will be psyched to talk to you. And most of the people of various cloths.
Cheers!
Incog,
Thanks for the uplifting-ness! I feel better already.
Oh yeah. Forgot something on a thread a few days back.
If'n things in LA get too unpleasant for you and String, you should come to MA.
It's cold(warmer than Canada!), and the state is kinda uptight about personal artillery compared to many.
But in the plus side, you can say
"Massatwoshits" and nobody can give you flak.
And wedding planners will be psyched to talk to you. And most of the people of various cloths.
Cheers!
Gimme 60s-era Floyd over Airplane anyday.
Gimme 60s-era Floyd over Airplane anyday.
One
Two
Free
Four!
One
Two
Free
Four!
move to Wisconsin on the frontlines with Iowa....when i become gov the first thing i do is send the nat'l guard into upper Michigan and retake it for Wisconsin....it's truly the Northern Ireland of America
move to Wisconsin on the frontlines with Iowa....when i become gov the first thing i do is send the nat'l guard into upper Michigan and retake it for Wisconsin....it's truly the Northern Ireland of America
Tena,
I've never been a huge fan of the whole Haight-Ashbury scene. I do like some Airplane stuff, though, and Casady's got serious chops. The drummers never were that good, though, and all those bands coulda spent more time tightening their sound. Granted, I'm probably one of the few people who hear "San Francisco in the late '60s" and think "Cool...the Flamin' Groovies."
Tena,
I've never been a huge fan of the whole Haight-Ashbury scene. I do like some Airplane stuff, though, and Casady's got serious chops. The drummers never were that good, though, and all those bands coulda spent more time tightening their sound. Granted, I'm probably one of the few people who hear "San Francisco in the late '60s" and think "Cool...the Flamin' Groovies."
"And whoever played on Ritchie
Valens' La Bamba.
steve simels
Interesting how that tune morphs seamlessy into Twist and Shout."
Wildebeest
Exactly how I've seen it done by Los Lobos, great stuff.
"And whoever played on Ritchie
Valens' La Bamba.
steve simels
Interesting how that tune morphs seamlessy into Twist and Shout."
Wildebeest
Exactly how I've seen it done by Los Lobos, great stuff.
What kenga said. I'd go out of my mind if I didn't live here. Here being the oh so wonderful Davis Sq, Somerville!!
What kenga said. I'd go out of my mind if I didn't live here. Here being the oh so wonderful Davis Sq, Somerville!!
Gimme 60s-era Floyd over Airplane anyday.
Like 'em both...from Atom Heart Mother to After Bathing At Baxter's - it just warms my greasy heart. And Casady's work with Hot Tuna is pretty ballsy, IMO.
Gimme 60s-era Floyd over Airplane anyday.
Like 'em both...from Atom Heart Mother to After Bathing At Baxter's - it just warms my greasy heart. And Casady's work with Hot Tuna is pretty ballsy, IMO.
Good luck on taking the U.P. for Wisconsin, there Bobby.
Theres more weapons per square mile in them woods than you even suspect.
Let alone Marines.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha
Semper FI, Mac
Good luck on taking the U.P. for Wisconsin, there Bobby.
Theres more weapons per square mile in them woods than you even suspect.
Let alone Marines.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha
Semper FI, Mac
Les McCain and Eddie Harris in Compared to What, Swiss Movement. Doesn't get better.
Les McCain and Eddie Harris in Compared to What, Swiss Movement. Doesn't get better.