I just love the smell of propaganda first thing in the New Year!
Alexander |
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01.01.05 - 9:50 am | #
I just love the smell of propaganda first thing in the New Year!
Alexander |
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01.01.05 - 9:50 am | #
By the way, Happy New Year to all!
Alexander |
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01.01.05 - 9:51 am | #
By the way, Happy New Year to all!
Alexander |
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01.01.05 - 9:51 am | #
& no one ever metioned the 35 "billion".
we're just supposed to think we're crazy if we heard that.
n69n |
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01.01.05 - 9:52 am | #
& no one ever metioned the 35 "billion".
we're just supposed to think we're crazy if we heard that.
n69n |
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01.01.05 - 9:52 am | #
Saw an AP story that said there was critisim over the initial 35 million too.
George(Another one) |
01.01.05 - 9:53 am | #
Saw an AP story that said there was critisim over the initial 35 million too.
George(Another one) |
01.01.05 - 9:53 am | #
I was going to type this up and blogwhore it, cuz I just mentioned in the morning thread. but here's the link to the whitehouse.gov release Dec. 29 2004. That's Furious George...
""" We are committed to helping the affected countries in the difficult weeks and months that lie ahead. We pledged an initial $35 million in relief assistance."""
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
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01.01.05 - 9:55 am | #
I was going to type this up and blogwhore it, cuz I just mentioned in the morning thread. but here's the link to the whitehouse.gov release Dec. 29 2004. That's Furious George...
""" We are committed to helping the affected countries in the difficult weeks and months that lie ahead. We pledged an initial $35 million in relief assistance."""
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
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01.01.05 - 9:55 am | #
The NYTimes isn't fit to wipe my arse.
Magnum |
01.01.05 - 9:55 am | #
The NYTimes isn't fit to wipe my arse.
Magnum |
01.01.05 - 9:55 am | #
"We are "fucking right"!!
Now how needs to be blown?"
-- Judith Miller
Attaturk |
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01.01.05 - 9:56 am | #
"We are "fucking right"!!
Now how needs to be blown?"
-- Judith Miller
Attaturk |
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01.01.05 - 9:56 am | #
after Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and other officials told him the need would increase sharply in the weeks ahead
"But Colin, those people are so skinny, they don't need that much to eat! Besides, I wanted to use that money to buy Laura a new tiara...and cigarettes."
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 9:57 am | #
after Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and other officials told him the need would increase sharply in the weeks ahead
"But Colin, those people are so skinny, they don't need that much to eat! Besides, I wanted to use that money to buy Laura a new tiara...and cigarettes."
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 9:57 am | #
It is a beautiful day in Pennsylvania.
All blue and sunny too. happy newyear.
bluesman |
01.01.05 - 9:57 am | #
It is a beautiful day in Pennsylvania.
All blue and sunny too. happy newyear.
bluesman |
01.01.05 - 9:57 am | #
Meanwhile, in Bam, Iran someone wonders where that money they were promised is.
Attaturk |
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01.01.05 - 9:58 am | #
Meanwhile, in Bam, Iran someone wonders where that money they were promised is.
Attaturk |
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01.01.05 - 9:58 am | #
Should auld ass bandits be forgot,
And never brought to mind.
Should auld ass bandits be forgot,
Please protect your sad behind.
He'll stab your ass, my trusty friend,
And slip a fuck to thine.
The Chimpster's back in charge again,
And that's a piss-poor sign.
The Chimpster's back in charge, my dear.
Just keep that thought in mind.
The Chimpster's back in charge again,
So protect your sad behind.
Lime Rickey |
01.01.05 - 10:00 am | #
Should auld ass bandits be forgot,
And never brought to mind.
Should auld ass bandits be forgot,
Please protect your sad behind.
He'll stab your ass, my trusty friend,
And slip a fuck to thine.
The Chimpster's back in charge again,
And that's a piss-poor sign.
The Chimpster's back in charge, my dear.
Just keep that thought in mind.
The Chimpster's back in charge again,
So protect your sad behind.
Lime Rickey |
01.01.05 - 10:00 am | #
It's easy to imagine Cheney in his bunker at an unknown location talking to Bush at his lair in Crawford via satellite:
"We have chance to show our generosity to the rest of the world, look good, and go up a few points in the polls. We'll pledge ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!"
Bush goes out and announces it and gets laughed off the stage with derision.
"Someone give me a friggin break here," says Cheney. "How the frig am I supposed to know how much it costs to help people? What am I, a friggin sucker?"
Chuckling |
01.01.05 - 10:01 am | #
It's easy to imagine Cheney in his bunker at an unknown location talking to Bush at his lair in Crawford via satellite:
"We have chance to show our generosity to the rest of the world, look good, and go up a few points in the polls. We'll pledge ONE MILLION DOLLARS!!!!"
Bush goes out and announces it and gets laughed off the stage with derision.
"Someone give me a friggin break here," says Cheney. "How the frig am I supposed to know how much it costs to help people? What am I, a friggin sucker?"
Chuckling |
01.01.05 - 10:01 am | #
Meanwhile, in Bam, Iran someone wonders where that money they were promised is.
"Sure, we'll promise 'em the moon! Is it legal to charge %25 interest on the moon?"
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:01 am | #
Meanwhile, in Bam, Iran someone wonders where that money they were promised is.
"Sure, we'll promise 'em the moon! Is it legal to charge %25 interest on the moon?"
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:01 am | #
Remember, we're at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia. And the initial amount was 3 mill--uh, 15 mill--uh, 35 million. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Big Daddy Mars |
01.01.05 - 10:01 am | #
Remember, we're at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia. And the initial amount was 3 mill--uh, 15 mill--uh, 35 million. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Big Daddy Mars |
01.01.05 - 10:01 am | #
on CNN they showed some US help arriving to Indonesia, we were the first there, so they say. Of course the first two people off the helicopter was a cameraman and a reporter.
Bush is an evil f**k, but he does have some smart people around him.
mad dan |
01.01.05 - 10:02 am | #
on CNN they showed some US help arriving to Indonesia, we were the first there, so they say. Of course the first two people off the helicopter was a cameraman and a reporter.
Bush is an evil f**k, but he does have some smart people around him.
mad dan |
01.01.05 - 10:02 am | #
I tracked this for my own benefit over at my site, and yes, it's always interesting how the media portrays things in The United States of Amnesia, as Vidal calls it.
riggsveda |
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01.01.05 - 10:04 am | #
I tracked this for my own benefit over at my site, and yes, it's always interesting how the media portrays things in The United States of Amnesia, as Vidal calls it.
riggsveda |
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01.01.05 - 10:04 am | #
%25 interest
whoa. somebody needs to put another pot of coffee on.
i must say, it is spectacular outside. 60 degrees, sunny...except IT'S JANUARY!!!
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:04 am | #
%25 interest
whoa. somebody needs to put another pot of coffee on.
i must say, it is spectacular outside. 60 degrees, sunny...except IT'S JANUARY!!!
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:04 am | #
I'll see your dime, and raise you a quarter.
Barndog |
01.01.05 - 10:05 am | #
I'll see your dime, and raise you a quarter.
Barndog |
01.01.05 - 10:05 am | #
""" I'll quickly summarize them. There has been an initial commitment of $15 million to support the relief efforts. USAID has just recently added $20 million to that, for the earthquake relief. Included in that is $2 million for Sri Lanka, $1 million for Indonesia, $100,000 each for India, the Maldives and Thailand; as well, an additional $4 million has been sent to the International Red Cross to support their efforts."""
Though I can't find Bush's original statement offering $15 million. That seems to have gone down the memory hole at whitehouse.gov
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
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01.01.05 - 10:08 am | #
""" I'll quickly summarize them. There has been an initial commitment of $15 million to support the relief efforts. USAID has just recently added $20 million to that, for the earthquake relief. Included in that is $2 million for Sri Lanka, $1 million for Indonesia, $100,000 each for India, the Maldives and Thailand; as well, an additional $4 million has been sent to the International Red Cross to support their efforts."""
Though I can't find Bush's original statement offering $15 million. That seems to have gone down the memory hole at whitehouse.gov
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
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01.01.05 - 10:08 am | #
It's not my job to read everything, but I was surprised to read an AP report that our initial promise wasn't $15 million, but $4 million.
Frank |
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01.01.05 - 10:10 am | #
It's not my job to read everything, but I was surprised to read an AP report that our initial promise wasn't $15 million, but $4 million.
Frank |
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01.01.05 - 10:10 am | #
"""There are some initial United States funds that are already flowing through the embassies. I think the dollar amounts are $400,000 at the early outgoing, and then $4 million in the next few days. But I would refer you to the State Department for more on the actual dollars."""
I guess it depends on what your definition of "initial" is. Right?
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
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01.01.05 - 10:11 am | #
"""There are some initial United States funds that are already flowing through the embassies. I think the dollar amounts are $400,000 at the early outgoing, and then $4 million in the next few days. But I would refer you to the State Department for more on the actual dollars."""
I guess it depends on what your definition of "initial" is. Right?
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
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i must say, it is spectacular outside. 60 degrees, sunny...except IT'S JANUARY!!!
watertiger
Then what the rosy red hell are you doing hanging around with us losers when the day seems to beckon so?
And by the way, good luck and much happiness in the New Year, AguaTigre...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
01.01.05 - 10:14 am | #
i must say, it is spectacular outside. 60 degrees, sunny...except IT'S JANUARY!!!
watertiger
Then what the rosy red hell are you doing hanging around with us losers when the day seems to beckon so?
And by the way, good luck and much happiness in the New Year, AguaTigre...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
01.01.05 - 10:14 am | #
I guess it depends on what your definition of "initial" is. Right?
They were just throwin' some numbers out there, seein' what would stick. Initial? Trying to pin down that first offer and make it stick is so . . . old school.
Big Daddy Mars |
01.01.05 - 10:15 am | #
I guess it depends on what your definition of "initial" is. Right?
They were just throwin' some numbers out there, seein' what would stick. Initial? Trying to pin down that first offer and make it stick is so . . . old school.
Big Daddy Mars |
01.01.05 - 10:15 am | #
we are organizing an art auction for tsunami survivors on my illustrators forum.
i'll post details here when available.
n69n |
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01.01.05 - 10:15 am | #
we are organizing an art auction for tsunami survivors on my illustrators forum.
i'll post details here when available.
n69n |
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OK, enough of this. Maybe we should write letters to the editor of the NYT telling them they are in error, YET AGAIN, and remind them of the facts. I'm sure that they will remember having printed a story in the first few days remarking on the first offer of 15Million?
We could also write letters to the opinion pages of that paper ensuring that it's readers see the facts, and remark that this is probably more a PR stunt than a mere error. Since the 15Mil was such an embarrassingly low amount of money, the last thing the WH wants is for peopel to realize that they are spending more money on his coronation than on helping millions of people find and help their loved ones after a catastrophe of this magnitude.
Otherwise I don't think this is something that needs to be jumped on too greatly. It might actually be a mere error.
OK, enough of this. Maybe we should write letters to the editor of the NYT telling them they are in error, YET AGAIN, and remind them of the facts. I'm sure that they will remember having printed a story in the first few days remarking on the first offer of 15Million?
We could also write letters to the opinion pages of that paper ensuring that it's readers see the facts, and remark that this is probably more a PR stunt than a mere error. Since the 15Mil was such an embarrassingly low amount of money, the last thing the WH wants is for peopel to realize that they are spending more money on his coronation than on helping millions of people find and help their loved ones after a catastrophe of this magnitude.
Otherwise I don't think this is something that needs to be jumped on too greatly. It might actually be a mere error.
barndog, i bet you could cover five of my dime size holes with that quater. just gettin started.
bluesman |
01.01.05 - 10:16 am | #
barndog, i bet you could cover five of my dime size holes with that quater. just gettin started.
bluesman |
01.01.05 - 10:16 am | #
Stalin would be proud comrade
jr |
01.01.05 - 10:18 am | #
Stalin would be proud comrade
jr |
01.01.05 - 10:18 am | #
merci, WGG. And a happy New Year's to you!
I'm only on my second cup of coffee. I need 3 cups before I can even find my house keys.
I shall take a stroll along the mighty Hudson River in a bit. Can't wait to find out what's been deposited in front of my building door by drunken revelers last night.
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:18 am | #
merci, WGG. And a happy New Year's to you!
I'm only on my second cup of coffee. I need 3 cups before I can even find my house keys.
I shall take a stroll along the mighty Hudson River in a bit. Can't wait to find out what's been deposited in front of my building door by drunken revelers last night.
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:18 am | #
That wasn't our real first offer, were just joshin'.
Our real first offer was whichever one was the smallest one that got everyone off our case. That, incidentally, is also our last offer.
Arbusto Administration |
01.01.05 - 10:20 am | #
That wasn't our real first offer, were just joshin'.
Our real first offer was whichever one was the smallest one that got everyone off our case. That, incidentally, is also our last offer.
Arbusto Administration |
01.01.05 - 10:20 am | #
Are you better off than you were a year ago? I'm not. Opening 2004 felt marvellous, the fresh taste of the year we were going to defeat Bush at the polls.
Opening 2005: The cheapskate ante of funds for tsunami victims, which he may or may not actually send after promising, and which he may or may not steal out of other humanitarian aid funds. Waiting for Conyers' Jan. 6 protest of the election results (Which will be to no avail in Republican controlled legislature, but still.) Waiting for the next war Bush starts. Waiting for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.
And coffee doesn't help.
cgreen |
01.01.05 - 10:20 am | #
Are you better off than you were a year ago? I'm not. Opening 2004 felt marvellous, the fresh taste of the year we were going to defeat Bush at the polls.
Opening 2005: The cheapskate ante of funds for tsunami victims, which he may or may not actually send after promising, and which he may or may not steal out of other humanitarian aid funds. Waiting for Conyers' Jan. 6 protest of the election results (Which will be to no avail in Republican controlled legislature, but still.) Waiting for the next war Bush starts. Waiting for the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.
And coffee doesn't help.
cgreen |
01.01.05 - 10:20 am | #
The terrible earthquake/tsunami disaster, along coastlines of the Indian Ocean, left tens of thousands dead and many times more people homeless and weakened. Front pages news stories swept the US corporate media -12,000 dead, 40,000, 60,000 and 100,000 made progressive day by day headlines. Twenty-four hour TV news provided minute by minute updates with added photos and live aerial shots of the effected regions. As the days after unfolded, personal stories of survival and loss were added to the overall coverage. Unique stories such as the 20 day old miracle baby found floating on a mattress, and the eight year old who lost both parents and later found by her uncle, were human interest features.
Individualized reports from Americans caught in the catastrophe made national news and numbers of Europeans, and North Americans involved were a key part of the continuing story. US embassies set up hotlines for relatives of possible victims to seek information. Quickly added into the corporate media mix was coverage on how the US was responding with relief aid and dollars. In Crawford, Texas President Bush announced that he had formed an international coalition to respond to the massive tsunami disaster.
The US corporate media coverage of the Indian Ocean tsunami disaster, for most Americans, was shocking, and emotional. Empathic Americans, with the knowledge that a terrible natural disaster of huge significant to hundreds of thousands people had occurred, wanted to help in any way they could. Church groups held prayer sessions for the victims, and the Red Cross received an upsurge of donations.
The US corporate media coverage of the tsunami disaster exposes a huge hypocrisy in the US press. Left uncovered this past year was the massive disaster that has befell Iraqi civilians. Over 100,000 civilians have died since the beginning of the US invasion and hundreds of thousands more are homeless and weakened. In late October 2004 the British Lancet medical journal published a scientific survey of households in Iraq that calculated over 100,000 civilians, mostly women and children, have died from war related causes. The study, formulated and conducted by researchers at the Bloomberg School of Public Health at the Johns Hopkins University and the College of Medicine at Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, involved a complex process of sampling households across Iraq to compare the numbers and causes of deaths before and after the invasion in March 2003. The mortality rate in these families worked out to 5 per 1,000 before the invasion and 12.3 per 1,000 after the invasion. Extrapolate the latter figure to the 22 million population of Iraq, and you end up with 100,000 total civilian deaths. The most common cause of death was aerial bombing followed by st
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
01.01.05 - 10:22 am | #
The terrible earthquake/tsunami disaster, along coastlines of the Indian Ocean, left tens of thousands dead and many times more people homeless and weakened. Front pages news stories swept the US corporate media -12,000 dead, 40,000, 60,000 and 100,000 made progressive day by day headlines. Twenty-four hour TV news provided minute by minute updates with added photos and live aerial shots of the effected regions. As the days after unfolded, personal stories of survival and loss were added to the overall coverage. Unique stories such as the 20 day old miracle baby found floating on a mattress, and the eight year old who lost both parents and later found by her uncle, were human interest features.
Individualized reports from Americans caught in the catastrophe made national news and numbers of Europeans, and North Americans involved were a key part of the continuing story. US embassies set up hotlines for relatives of possible victims to seek information. Quickly added into the corporate media mix was coverage on how the US was responding with relief aid and dollars. In Crawford, Texas President Bush announced that he had formed an international coalition to respond to the massive tsunami disaster.
The US corporate media coverage of the Indian Ocean tsunami disaster, for most Americans, was shocking, and emotional. Empathic Americans, with the knowledge that a terrible natural disaster of huge significant to hundreds of thousands people had occurred, wanted to help in any way they could. Church groups held prayer sessions for the victims, and the Red Cross received an upsurge of donations.
The US corporate media coverage of the tsunami disaster exposes a huge hypocrisy in the US press. Left uncovered this past year was the massive disaster that has befell Iraqi civilians. Over 100,000 civilians have died since the beginning of the US invasion and hundreds of thousands more are homeless and weakened. In late October 2004 the British Lancet medical journal published a scientific survey of households in Iraq that calculated over 100,000 civilians, mostly women and children, have died from war related causes. The study, formulated and conducted by researchers at the Bloomberg School of Public Health at the Johns Hopkins University and the College of Medicine at Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, involved a complex process of sampling households across Iraq to compare the numbers and causes of deaths before and after the invasion in March 2003. The mortality rate in these families worked out to 5 per 1,000 before the invasion and 12.3 per 1,000 after the invasion. Extrapolate the latter figure to the 22 million population of Iraq, and you end up with 100,000 total civilian deaths. The most common cause of death was aerial bombing followed by st
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
01.01.05 - 10:22 am | #
And coffee doesn't help.
I'm holding out the microscopic hope that the administration's overstepping (or goose-stepping, depending) results in criminal proceedings.
Like I said, "microscopic."
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:23 am | #
And coffee doesn't help.
I'm holding out the microscopic hope that the administration's overstepping (or goose-stepping, depending) results in criminal proceedings.
Like I said, "microscopic."
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:23 am | #
Why does something like this have to become a political football? Why can't the U.S. government do the right thing from the get go?
M |
01.01.05 - 10:24 am | #
Why does something like this have to become a political football? Why can't the U.S. government do the right thing from the get go?
M |
01.01.05 - 10:24 am | #
In the United States, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and other State Department officials said that at least $15 million in aid would be provided, in cash or donated supplies, with $4 million going directly to the Red Cross.
filkertom |
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01.01.05 - 10:24 am | #
In the United States, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and other State Department officials said that at least $15 million in aid would be provided, in cash or donated supplies, with $4 million going directly to the Red Cross.
filkertom |
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01.01.05 - 10:24 am | #
Tsunami Disaster Highlights Corporate Media Hypocrisy Cont'd)
The study, formulated and conducted by researchers at the Bloomberg School of Public Health at the Johns Hopkins University and the College of Medicine at Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, involved a complex process of sampling households across Iraq to compare the numbers and causes of deaths before and after the invasion in March 2003. The mortality rate in these families worked out to 5 per 1,000 before the invasion and 12.3 per 1,000 after the invasion. Extrapolate the latter figure to the 22 million population of Iraq, and you end up with 100,000 total civilian deaths. The most common cause of death was aerial bombing followed by strokes and heart attacks. Recent civilian deaths in Fallujah would undoubtedly add significantly to the total.
The Iraqi word for disaster is museeba. Surly the lose of life from war in Iraq is as significant a meseeba as the Indian Ocean tsunami, yet where is the US corporate media coverage of thousands of dead and homeless? Where are the live aerial TV shots of the disaster zones and the up-close photos of the victims? Where are the survivor stories - the miracle child who lived thought a building collapsed by US bombs and rescued by neighbors? Where are the government official's press releases of regret and sorrow? Where is the international coalition for relief of civilians in Iraq and the upsurge in donations for Red Cross intervention? Would not Americans, if they knew, be just as caring about Iraqi deaths as they are for the victims of the tsunami?
The US corporate media has published Pentagon statements on civilian deaths in Iraq as unknown and dismissed the Lancet Medical Journal study. It seems US media concerns are for victims of natural disasters, while the man-made disasters, such as the deliberate invasion of another country by the US, are better left unreported.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
01.01.05 - 10:25 am | #
Tsunami Disaster Highlights Corporate Media Hypocrisy Cont'd)
The study, formulated and conducted by researchers at the Bloomberg School of Public Health at the Johns Hopkins University and the College of Medicine at Al Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, involved a complex process of sampling households across Iraq to compare the numbers and causes of deaths before and after the invasion in March 2003. The mortality rate in these families worked out to 5 per 1,000 before the invasion and 12.3 per 1,000 after the invasion. Extrapolate the latter figure to the 22 million population of Iraq, and you end up with 100,000 total civilian deaths. The most common cause of death was aerial bombing followed by strokes and heart attacks. Recent civilian deaths in Fallujah would undoubtedly add significantly to the total.
The Iraqi word for disaster is museeba. Surly the lose of life from war in Iraq is as significant a meseeba as the Indian Ocean tsunami, yet where is the US corporate media coverage of thousands of dead and homeless? Where are the live aerial TV shots of the disaster zones and the up-close photos of the victims? Where are the survivor stories - the miracle child who lived thought a building collapsed by US bombs and rescued by neighbors? Where are the government official's press releases of regret and sorrow? Where is the international coalition for relief of civilians in Iraq and the upsurge in donations for Red Cross intervention? Would not Americans, if they knew, be just as caring about Iraqi deaths as they are for the victims of the tsunami?
The US corporate media has published Pentagon statements on civilian deaths in Iraq as unknown and dismissed the Lancet Medical Journal study. It seems US media concerns are for victims of natural disasters, while the man-made disasters, such as the deliberate invasion of another country by the US, are better left unreported.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
01.01.05 - 10:25 am | #
BushCo. initially offered $4 million of beef to the Hindus and $5 million worth of pork for the Muslims. They had no idea what to give to the Buddhists.
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:29 am | #
BushCo. initially offered $4 million of beef to the Hindus and $5 million worth of pork for the Muslims. They had no idea what to give to the Buddhists.
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:29 am | #
a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/
articles/A39791-2004Dec31.html">Here's some MORE good news, from the Social Security front
A Big Push On Social Security
Private Accounts Are Bush Priority
By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, January 1, 2005; Page A01
President Bush's political allies are raising millions of dollars for an election-style campaign to promote private Social Security accounts, as Democrats and Republicans prepare for what they predict will be the most expensive and extensive public policy debate since the 1993 fight over the Clinton administration's failed health care plan.
With Bush planning to unveil the details of his Social Security plan this month, several GOP groups close to the White House are asking the same donors who helped reelect Bush to fund an extensive campaign to convince Americans -- and skeptical lawmakers -- that Social Security is in crisis and that private accounts are the only cure.
Progress for America, an independent conservative group that backed Bush in the campaign, has set aside about $9 million to support the president's Social Security plan as well as other White House domestic priorities in the new year, said spokesman Brian McCabe. The group is asking its donors for much more, he said.
Stephen Moore, head of the conservative Club for Growth, has raised $1.5 million and hopes to hit a $15 million target when his fundraising drive ends.
But their contributions are likely to be dwarfed by those from corporate trade associations, spearheaded by the National Association of Manufacturers. Other likely contributors include the financial services and securities industries and other Fortune 500 companies, GOP officials say. White House officials, led by Karl Rove and Charles P. Blahous III, the president's policy point man on Social Security, are helping to shape the public relations campaign, said the officials, who talked about private discussions with the White House on the condition of anonymity.
"It could easily be a $50 million to $100 million cost to convince people this is legislation that needs to be enacted," Moore said. "It's going to be expensive" because "it's the most important public policy fight in 25 years," he said.
Republicans are expediting their fundraising plans after learning that AARP, the influential seniors group that supported Bush's Medicare program but opposes his Social Security designs, will spend $5 million in the first two weeks of this month attacking the president's plan to allow younger workers to invest part of their Social Security contributions in the stock market. AARP plans to run full-page ads in 50 large newspapers to coincide with the return of Congress next week. In one ad, a couple in their forties says, "If we feel like gambling, we'll play the slots."
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
01.01.05 - 10:30 am | #
a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/
articles/A39791-2004Dec31.html">Here's some MORE good news, from the Social Security front
A Big Push On Social Security
Private Accounts Are Bush Priority
By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, January 1, 2005; Page A01
President Bush's political allies are raising millions of dollars for an election-style campaign to promote private Social Security accounts, as Democrats and Republicans prepare for what they predict will be the most expensive and extensive public policy debate since the 1993 fight over the Clinton administration's failed health care plan.
With Bush planning to unveil the details of his Social Security plan this month, several GOP groups close to the White House are asking the same donors who helped reelect Bush to fund an extensive campaign to convince Americans -- and skeptical lawmakers -- that Social Security is in crisis and that private accounts are the only cure.
Progress for America, an independent conservative group that backed Bush in the campaign, has set aside about $9 million to support the president's Social Security plan as well as other White House domestic priorities in the new year, said spokesman Brian McCabe. The group is asking its donors for much more, he said.
Stephen Moore, head of the conservative Club for Growth, has raised $1.5 million and hopes to hit a $15 million target when his fundraising drive ends.
But their contributions are likely to be dwarfed by those from corporate trade associations, spearheaded by the National Association of Manufacturers. Other likely contributors include the financial services and securities industries and other Fortune 500 companies, GOP officials say. White House officials, led by Karl Rove and Charles P. Blahous III, the president's policy point man on Social Security, are helping to shape the public relations campaign, said the officials, who talked about private discussions with the White House on the condition of anonymity.
"It could easily be a $50 million to $100 million cost to convince people this is legislation that needs to be enacted," Moore said. "It's going to be expensive" because "it's the most important public policy fight in 25 years," he said.
Republicans are expediting their fundraising plans after learning that AARP, the influential seniors group that supported Bush's Medicare program but opposes his Social Security designs, will spend $5 million in the first two weeks of this month attacking the president's plan to allow younger workers to invest part of their Social Security contributions in the stock market. AARP plans to run full-page ads in 50 large newspapers to coincide with the return of Congress next week. In one ad, a couple in their forties says, "If we feel like gambling, we'll play the slots."
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono |
01.01.05 - 10:30 am | #
And hopefully it'll make it back to 60 here soon. At the highest point in Hong Kong it went below freezing last night. Such a curiosity that some people went to Tai Mo Shan to celebrate New Year's Eve and see the natural ice form. Coldest in 43 years or so.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
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01.01.05 - 10:34 am | #
And hopefully it'll make it back to 60 here soon. At the highest point in Hong Kong it went below freezing last night. Such a curiosity that some people went to Tai Mo Shan to celebrate New Year's Eve and see the natural ice form. Coldest in 43 years or so.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam |
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01.01.05 - 10:34 am | #
tom, yea our little rock may be doing quite the wobble.
bluesman |
01.01.05 - 10:38 am | #
tom, yea our little rock may be doing quite the wobble.
bluesman |
01.01.05 - 10:38 am | #
Anybody else see the article in the NY Daily News, with a front page picture, of tourists flocking to the ravaged areas to get a first hand look of the disaster?
That was really scary.
QuiltLady in NY |
01.01.05 - 10:39 am | #
Anybody else see the article in the NY Daily News, with a front page picture, of tourists flocking to the ravaged areas to get a first hand look of the disaster?
That was really scary.
QuiltLady in NY |
01.01.05 - 10:39 am | #
Anybody else see the article in the NY Daily News, with a front page picture, of tourists flocking to the ravaged areas to get a first hand look of the disaster?
You ever see the people holding their babies up in front of Ground Zero for that perfect "Visit to NYC" photo op?
People are ghouls.
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:42 am | #
Anybody else see the article in the NY Daily News, with a front page picture, of tourists flocking to the ravaged areas to get a first hand look of the disaster?
You ever see the people holding their babies up in front of Ground Zero for that perfect "Visit to NYC" photo op?
People are ghouls.
watertiger |
01.01.05 - 10:42 am | #
Tom DTL -- great work! I hope you don't mind. Besides saving those pages myself, I forwarded your page on to The Memory Hole.
filkertom |
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01.01.05 - 10:43 am | #
Tom DTL -- great work! I hope you don't mind. Besides saving those pages myself, I forwarded your page on to The Memory Hole.
filkertom |
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01.01.05 - 10:43 am | #
good new year morn to all. it is still dark here in the north part of the left coast. i heard rain a bit ago as i awoke.
the morning news about japan's contibution to tsunami relief looked to us to be a "nuanced" poke in george's eye.
dear leader's dumbass beginning on this episode, paltry money and "he's clearing brush," pushed the discussion over to a spat about our generosity as a country, overshadowing even the boilerplate comments he made about tragedy and suffering and we are with you.
and the wingnuts are equating crticism of his lack of even fake compassion with "un-americanism," taking us even further from the real thing here---many people dead, many people need help.
good thing hope springs eternal, 'cause it sure does get stomped on time after time.
dread pirate roberts |
01.01.05 - 10:43 am | #
good new year morn to all. it is still dark here in the north part of the left coast. i heard rain a bit ago as i awoke.
the morning news about japan's contibution to tsunami relief looked to us to be a "nuanced" poke in george's eye.
dear leader's dumbass beginning on this episode, paltry money and "he's clearing brush," pushed the discussion over to a spat about our generosity as a country, overshadowing even the boilerplate comments he made about tragedy and suffering and we are with you.
and the wingnuts are equating crticism of his lack of even fake compassion with "un-americanism," taking us even further from the real thing here---many people dead, many people need help.
good thing hope springs eternal, 'cause it sure does get stomped on time after time.
dread pirate roberts |
01.01.05 - 10:43 am | #
It is sort of disgusting, isn't it? Nothing new here though folks, the news media lies for the chimpster constantly.
DWD |
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01.01.05 - 10:45 am | #
It is sort of disgusting, isn't it? Nothing new here though folks, the news media lies for the chimpster constantly.
DWD |
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01.01.05 - 10:45 am | #
You ever see the people holding their babies up in front of Ground Zero for that perfect "Visit to NYC" photo op?
I work across the park from Ground Zero. I don't know which I dislike more, the tourists who come and get all choked up and say a prayer, or the tourists who treat it like it is just another tourist site. I avoid the area whenever possible. Yesterday I wouldn't even step out the Broadway entrance of my building. Stayed on Nassau Street.
QuiltLady in NY |
01.01.05 - 10:46 am | #
You ever see the people holding their babies up in front of Ground Zero for that perfect "Visit to NYC" photo op?
I work across the park from Ground Zero. I don't know which I dislike more, the tourists who come and get all choked up and say a prayer, or the tourists who treat it like it is just another tourist site. I avoid the area whenever possible. Yesterday I wouldn't even step out the Broadway entrance of my building. Stayed on Nassau Street.
QuiltLady in NY |
01.01.05 - 10:46 am | #
QuiltLady -- I dunno. I wouldn't myself be too put off by the choked up/say a prayer group; there is emotional power in such an icon, and they may very sincerely wish to mourn the dead.
Now, if they start posing for pictures, waving their arms and stuff, yeah, drop water balloons on 'em or something.
filkertom |
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01.01.05 - 10:50 am | #
QuiltLady -- I dunno. I wouldn't myself be too put off by the choked up/say a prayer group; there is emotional power in such an icon, and they may very sincerely wish to mourn the dead.
Now, if they start posing for pictures, waving their arms and stuff, yeah, drop water balloons on 'em or something.
filkertom |
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01.01.05 - 10:50 am | #
FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK the goddamned lying and whoring New York Times!!
It's bad enough that they get the initial aid package number wrong. What is even worse is that they cover up the fact that the change in aid numbers was a PR response to criticism from various areas of the world about the initial aid offer's stinginess.
Even though the size of the Bush aid package is a relatively minor story compared with the Bush Administration's other outrages, this little excerpt demonstrates to me what a bunch of craven propogandits and proppers up of the status quo the New York Times is.
Oh, by they way, did I say "Fuck the New York Times?" 'Cause if I didn't, I'll say it now: Fuck the goddamned lying and whoring New York Times.
Progressives' mission over the next several years should be getting the word out to other progressives, liberals and moderates about how undeserved the Old Gray Whore's "liberal" reputation is and what a fucking travesty it is to honest journalism.
Let's help put that fucking rag out of business . . . or at least hurt their fucking circulation.
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 10:51 am | #
FUCK, FUCK, FUCK, FUCK the goddamned lying and whoring New York Times!!
It's bad enough that they get the initial aid package number wrong. What is even worse is that they cover up the fact that the change in aid numbers was a PR response to criticism from various areas of the world about the initial aid offer's stinginess.
Even though the size of the Bush aid package is a relatively minor story compared with the Bush Administration's other outrages, this little excerpt demonstrates to me what a bunch of craven propogandits and proppers up of the status quo the New York Times is.
Oh, by they way, did I say "Fuck the New York Times?" 'Cause if I didn't, I'll say it now: Fuck the goddamned lying and whoring New York Times.
Progressives' mission over the next several years should be getting the word out to other progressives, liberals and moderates about how undeserved the Old Gray Whore's "liberal" reputation is and what a fucking travesty it is to honest journalism.
Let's help put that fucking rag out of business . . . or at least hurt their fucking circulation.
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 10:51 am | #
taking us even further from the real thing here---many people dead, many people need help.
To the wingnuts, these are just brown Islamic subhumans. Why should we bother our pretty little minds about them?
Gary Frazier |
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01.01.05 - 10:53 am | #
taking us even further from the real thing here---many people dead, many people need help.
To the wingnuts, these are just brown Islamic subhumans. Why should we bother our pretty little minds about them?
Gary Frazier |
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01.01.05 - 10:53 am | #
"100,000 total civilian deaths"
Ramsey Clark or Noam Chompsky need to dig up the mass graves and count the bodies. It took 1,300 bombers to deliberatly slaughter about 70,000 Germans in Dresden.
RAL |
01.01.05 - 11:00 am | #
"100,000 total civilian deaths"
Ramsey Clark or Noam Chompsky need to dig up the mass graves and count the bodies. It took 1,300 bombers to deliberatly slaughter about 70,000 Germans in Dresden.
RAL |
01.01.05 - 11:00 am | #
Woody it would be fair to say that media coverage discrepencies are due to at-the-moment ratings needs, and sensationalism. The current catastrophe has happened now, all in one day, and is covering a wide area. The iraqi deaths have been spread out over several months and since they're the result of a war, they don't care as they see this as revenge. If Bush had stated that we were at war with terrorist sponsoring nations around the indian ocean, and that the killer waves were caused not by undersea earthquakes but by massive underwater nuclear detonations meant to create the same effect, most Bush supporters would probably support it as well.
Woody it would be fair to say that media coverage discrepencies are due to at-the-moment ratings needs, and sensationalism. The current catastrophe has happened now, all in one day, and is covering a wide area. The iraqi deaths have been spread out over several months and since they're the result of a war, they don't care as they see this as revenge. If Bush had stated that we were at war with terrorist sponsoring nations around the indian ocean, and that the killer waves were caused not by undersea earthquakes but by massive underwater nuclear detonations meant to create the same effect, most Bush supporters would probably support it as well.
In the same way that the left side of the blogosphre and MoveOn targeted Sinclair Broadcasting, isn't there some way that you folks can all UNITE and JOIN FORCES to go after just one of the so called "liberal media" outlets and MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THEM?
I think the New York Times would be a good place to start.
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:01 am | #
Atrios:
In the same way that the left side of the blogosphre and MoveOn targeted Sinclair Broadcasting, isn't there some way that you folks can all UNITE and JOIN FORCES to go after just one of the so called "liberal media" outlets and MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF THEM?
I think the New York Times would be a good place to start.
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:01 am | #
Niggling, Jumbled Fears
This latest episode where the news media is trying their best to forget the Administration’s niggling largess for the Tsunami Survivors is indicative of the fear we all have: there is no truth available from the news media anymore, they simply report the Administration’s lies without ever calling them as such. I used to be amazed and irritated, now I have come to accept their complicity in the greatest disaster ever befallen our fair country: the usurpation of power by the Republicans.
The problem is: how do we counter their lies? Eschaton and Buzzflash and MyDD and DailyKos and the rest are not going to do it folks. While I am sure the combined readership of these sites is significant, it is nothing compared to the networks or the New York Times or the Washington Post. So the fear remains and we cast about for an answer. I am afraid there isn’t one. The truth is that we have become so accustomed to the lies that the truth would be offensive at this point.
I have been saying for some time now, without much support I might add (Craziness runs in my family) that the way to attack the great Wurlitzer of the Right is at the local level. That is where they are most effective and most vulnerable. Fox and ABC and NBC do not care if you think they are lying, to them you are an ant crawling up the leg of an elephant with intent of rape. If you can bring it to the local levels with boycotts and calling of sponsors and stuff: something might be done. But of this I am less than sure, so the jumbled fears remain that we are caught in the midst of a funhouse with malevolent bastard controlling our activities.
DWD |
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01.01.05 - 11:05 am | #
Niggling, Jumbled Fears
This latest episode where the news media is trying their best to forget the Administration’s niggling largess for the Tsunami Survivors is indicative of the fear we all have: there is no truth available from the news media anymore, they simply report the Administration’s lies without ever calling them as such. I used to be amazed and irritated, now I have come to accept their complicity in the greatest disaster ever befallen our fair country: the usurpation of power by the Republicans.
The problem is: how do we counter their lies? Eschaton and Buzzflash and MyDD and DailyKos and the rest are not going to do it folks. While I am sure the combined readership of these sites is significant, it is nothing compared to the networks or the New York Times or the Washington Post. So the fear remains and we cast about for an answer. I am afraid there isn’t one. The truth is that we have become so accustomed to the lies that the truth would be offensive at this point.
I have been saying for some time now, without much support I might add (Craziness runs in my family) that the way to attack the great Wurlitzer of the Right is at the local level. That is where they are most effective and most vulnerable. Fox and ABC and NBC do not care if you think they are lying, to them you are an ant crawling up the leg of an elephant with intent of rape. If you can bring it to the local levels with boycotts and calling of sponsors and stuff: something might be done. But of this I am less than sure, so the jumbled fears remain that we are caught in the midst of a funhouse with malevolent bastard controlling our activities.
DWD |
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01.01.05 - 11:05 am | #
Ironic when Americans have to go to Pravda to get the truth.
Terry C |
01.01.05 - 11:07 am | #
Ironic when Americans have to go to Pravda to get the truth.
Terry C |
01.01.05 - 11:07 am | #
Gore Vidal on the New York Times, from a November 2001 article in "The Nation":
The late Murray Kempton once noted that although the New York Times likes to pose as being above the battle, this position has never stopped the Times, once the battle's fought, from sneaking onto the field and shooting the wounded. November 12, krauthammers at the ready, Times persons swept through the electoral swamps of Florida, shooting those survivors who questioned "President" Bush's alleged plurality.
In the old Soviet Union, various Russian friends were often surprisingly well informed about the world despite the fact that their view of it was largely shaped by their New York Times, Pravda. When asked how do you find out what's really going on, they would give secret smiles: "You must know how to read Pravda." Now the USSR is gone and we are on our own, trying to sort out our Pravda's often contradictory mendacities, on such lurid view a few weeks ago in an edition that contained three or four not exactly synoptic tales of the findings of a "ballot review conducted for a consortium of news organizations."
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:17 am | #
Gore Vidal on the New York Times, from a November 2001 article in "The Nation":
The late Murray Kempton once noted that although the New York Times likes to pose as being above the battle, this position has never stopped the Times, once the battle's fought, from sneaking onto the field and shooting the wounded. November 12, krauthammers at the ready, Times persons swept through the electoral swamps of Florida, shooting those survivors who questioned "President" Bush's alleged plurality.
In the old Soviet Union, various Russian friends were often surprisingly well informed about the world despite the fact that their view of it was largely shaped by their New York Times, Pravda. When asked how do you find out what's really going on, they would give secret smiles: "You must know how to read Pravda." Now the USSR is gone and we are on our own, trying to sort out our Pravda's often contradictory mendacities, on such lurid view a few weeks ago in an edition that contained three or four not exactly synoptic tales of the findings of a "ballot review conducted for a consortium of news organizations."
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:17 am | #
Woody it would be fair to say that media coverage discrepencies are due to at-the-moment ratings needs, and sensationalism. The current catastrophe has happened now, all in one day, and is covering a wide area. The iraqi deaths have been spread out over several months and since they're the result of a war, they don't care as they see this as revenge.
I think MYOB has a point here. About one million have died in the Darfur region of Sudan. But that was over a year or more, and the deaths were not likely to have been filmed. Small numbers and repeated numbers do not get reported. We used to hear about every single US casualty in Iraq. Now we only hear about the incidents that kill large numbers of troops at one time.
____league |
01.01.05 - 11:21 am | #
Woody it would be fair to say that media coverage discrepencies are due to at-the-moment ratings needs, and sensationalism. The current catastrophe has happened now, all in one day, and is covering a wide area. The iraqi deaths have been spread out over several months and since they're the result of a war, they don't care as they see this as revenge.
I think MYOB has a point here. About one million have died in the Darfur region of Sudan. But that was over a year or more, and the deaths were not likely to have been filmed. Small numbers and repeated numbers do not get reported. We used to hear about every single US casualty in Iraq. Now we only hear about the incidents that kill large numbers of troops at one time.
____league |
01.01.05 - 11:21 am | #
OK, I've written my first complaint of the New Year, pointing the "$35 million" error out to Okrent.
Editoress |
01.01.05 - 11:22 am | #
OK, I've written my first complaint of the New Year, pointing the "$35 million" error out to Okrent.
Editoress |
01.01.05 - 11:22 am | #
Gore Vidal, again, on the New York Times, this time from an article in the LA Weekly about 9/11:
I don't think we, the American people, deserved what happened. Nor do we deserve the sort of governments we have had over the last 40 years. Our governments have brought this upon us by their actions all over the world. I have a list in my new book that gives the reader some idea how busy we have been. Unfortunately, we only get disinformation from The New York Times and other official places. Americans have no idea of the extent of their government's mischief. The number of military strikes we have made unprovoked, against other countries, since 1947-48 is more than 250. These are major strikes everywhere from Panama to Iran. And it isn't even a complete list. It doesn't include places like Chile, as that was a CIA operation. I was only listing military attacks.
Americans are either not told about these things or are told we attacked them because . . . well . . . Noriega is the center of all world drug traffic and we have to get rid of him. So we kill some Panamanians in the process. Actually we killed quite a few. And we brought in our Air Force. Panama didn't have an air force. But it looked good to have our Air Force there, busy, blowing up buildings. Then we kidnap their leader, Noriega, a former CIA man who worked loyally for the United States. We arrest him. Try him in an American court that has no jurisdiction over him and lock him up -- nobody knows why. And that was supposed to end the drug trade because he had been demonized by The New York Times and the rest of the imperial press.
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:23 am | #
Gore Vidal, again, on the New York Times, this time from an article in the LA Weekly about 9/11:
I don't think we, the American people, deserved what happened. Nor do we deserve the sort of governments we have had over the last 40 years. Our governments have brought this upon us by their actions all over the world. I have a list in my new book that gives the reader some idea how busy we have been. Unfortunately, we only get disinformation from The New York Times and other official places. Americans have no idea of the extent of their government's mischief. The number of military strikes we have made unprovoked, against other countries, since 1947-48 is more than 250. These are major strikes everywhere from Panama to Iran. And it isn't even a complete list. It doesn't include places like Chile, as that was a CIA operation. I was only listing military attacks.
Americans are either not told about these things or are told we attacked them because . . . well . . . Noriega is the center of all world drug traffic and we have to get rid of him. So we kill some Panamanians in the process. Actually we killed quite a few. And we brought in our Air Force. Panama didn't have an air force. But it looked good to have our Air Force there, busy, blowing up buildings. Then we kidnap their leader, Noriega, a former CIA man who worked loyally for the United States. We arrest him. Try him in an American court that has no jurisdiction over him and lock him up -- nobody knows why. And that was supposed to end the drug trade because he had been demonized by The New York Times and the rest of the imperial press.
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:23 am | #
What amazes me is that the NYT seems to be going in the opposite direction from the WSJ. They had an editorial excoriating Bush for his initial stinginess (alright, I'll blogwhore; the whole thing is available, withour subscription, here., and they got the initial offer right.
But off the op-ed pages, that information is now down the memory hole?
Great. Just great. Maybe someone should point this out to the NYT Ombudsman, so he can complain about shrill e-mails again?
Robert M. Jeffers |
01.01.05 - 11:27 am | #
What amazes me is that the NYT seems to be going in the opposite direction from the WSJ. They had an editorial excoriating Bush for his initial stinginess (alright, I'll blogwhore; the whole thing is available, withour subscription, here., and they got the initial offer right.
But off the op-ed pages, that information is now down the memory hole?
Great. Just great. Maybe someone should point this out to the NYT Ombudsman, so he can complain about shrill e-mails again?
Robert M. Jeffers |
01.01.05 - 11:27 am | #
Jeremiah--
thanks for the Gore Vidal. Good way to start the new year. He's absolutely right, of course. Americans are convinced they are innocent lambs because their government lies to them (and why is government bad unless it acts through the military? I still don't get that one. In Europe, it's pretty much the opposite, I think. In America, the sovereign should wage war, and ignore social problems. In Europe, war IS the social problem. Hmmmm....)
Anyway, Vidal hits the nail on the head. Ignorant (willfully, but also due to a useless media) of government actions, we convince ourselves our hearts are pure, our hands are clean, and wonder why the "evil" world hates us for our "purity."
Gotta wonder how much longer this charade will last, with Wal-Mart determined to sell us everything made in China, and China poised to become the factory to the world. Economics and politics are tightly entertwined.
Robert M. Jeffers |
01.01.05 - 11:32 am | #
Jeremiah--
thanks for the Gore Vidal. Good way to start the new year. He's absolutely right, of course. Americans are convinced they are innocent lambs because their government lies to them (and why is government bad unless it acts through the military? I still don't get that one. In Europe, it's pretty much the opposite, I think. In America, the sovereign should wage war, and ignore social problems. In Europe, war IS the social problem. Hmmmm....)
Anyway, Vidal hits the nail on the head. Ignorant (willfully, but also due to a useless media) of government actions, we convince ourselves our hearts are pure, our hands are clean, and wonder why the "evil" world hates us for our "purity."
Gotta wonder how much longer this charade will last, with Wal-Mart determined to sell us everything made in China, and China poised to become the factory to the world. Economics and politics are tightly entertwined.
Robert M. Jeffers |
01.01.05 - 11:32 am | #
"The Black Commentator" on the New York Times and the demonstation of its hypocrasy inherent in its handling of the Jason Blair scandal:
The New York Times violates truth, every day, with no assistance from African Americans. Jayson Blair is accused of writing stories about people he had not spoken to, and places he had not been. For this, he is crucified, and made a symbol of Black pretensions. The Great White Liar William Safire wonders, "How could this happen at the most rigorously edited newspaper in the world?" Yet Blair's misdeeds, so innocuous that he could commit 36 of them before being caught, pale when compared to the Stalinist crime against reality perpetrated by valued Timesman Adam Nagourney, May 5, in full view of the paper's editors.
Nagourney was entrusted to divine the larger truths that emerged from the televised Democratic primary debate, in South Carolina. Instead, as BC noted in last week's issue, he disappeared three of the candidates:
"Nagourney then proceeded to delineate the opposing Democratic camps, comprising six of the nine candidates: Lieberman, Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt, Dean and Graham. In over 1,000 words, Nagourney not only failed to once mention the names Al Sharpton, Carole Moseley-Braun or Dennis Kucinich, he did not indicate in any manner that the three candidates existed on the planet Earth! The two Blacks and one lefty white did not rate even a throwaway line about the "others" vying for primary votes. The fact that they lived and breathed was not deemed fit to print--an amazing but honest exposition of the world as it should be in the judgment of the New York Times and corporate media, in general."
The New York Times erased three important politicians from a nationally televised event in which they were full participants, leaving not a trace of their presence in the Newspaper of Record. Presumably, the editors were pleased. Stalin's scissors men would have been proud.
One of the disappeared, Sharpton, is likely to come in first or second in South Carolina, next February. Will Times readers wonder how and why that happened? "It's an abrogation of the trust between the newspaper and its readers," said Times chairman Sulzberger. But he was talking about Jayson Blair's little tricks and inventions, not Adam Nagourney's racial and political mutilation of a nationally significant event. Jason Blair invented quotes of transient interest from rather unimportant people. Adam Nagourney whited out a national debate.
The Times vastly underestimated the October 26 anti-war march in Washington, reporting that turnout was only in the "thousands," far "below expectations." Actually, between 100,000 (police estimate) and 200,000 (Pacifica's count) people gathered that Saturday on the Mall for a protest of global, historic impact. It took a monsoon of emailed complaints to prompt the Times to issue a corrective story on the following Wednesday, confirming that the huge turnout had se
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:36 am | #
"The Black Commentator" on the New York Times and the demonstation of its hypocrasy inherent in its handling of the Jason Blair scandal:
The New York Times violates truth, every day, with no assistance from African Americans. Jayson Blair is accused of writing stories about people he had not spoken to, and places he had not been. For this, he is crucified, and made a symbol of Black pretensions. The Great White Liar William Safire wonders, "How could this happen at the most rigorously edited newspaper in the world?" Yet Blair's misdeeds, so innocuous that he could commit 36 of them before being caught, pale when compared to the Stalinist crime against reality perpetrated by valued Timesman Adam Nagourney, May 5, in full view of the paper's editors.
Nagourney was entrusted to divine the larger truths that emerged from the televised Democratic primary debate, in South Carolina. Instead, as BC noted in last week's issue, he disappeared three of the candidates:
"Nagourney then proceeded to delineate the opposing Democratic camps, comprising six of the nine candidates: Lieberman, Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt, Dean and Graham. In over 1,000 words, Nagourney not only failed to once mention the names Al Sharpton, Carole Moseley-Braun or Dennis Kucinich, he did not indicate in any manner that the three candidates existed on the planet Earth! The two Blacks and one lefty white did not rate even a throwaway line about the "others" vying for primary votes. The fact that they lived and breathed was not deemed fit to print--an amazing but honest exposition of the world as it should be in the judgment of the New York Times and corporate media, in general."
The New York Times erased three important politicians from a nationally televised event in which they were full participants, leaving not a trace of their presence in the Newspaper of Record. Presumably, the editors were pleased. Stalin's scissors men would have been proud.
One of the disappeared, Sharpton, is likely to come in first or second in South Carolina, next February. Will Times readers wonder how and why that happened? "It's an abrogation of the trust between the newspaper and its readers," said Times chairman Sulzberger. But he was talking about Jayson Blair's little tricks and inventions, not Adam Nagourney's racial and political mutilation of a nationally significant event. Jason Blair invented quotes of transient interest from rather unimportant people. Adam Nagourney whited out a national debate.
The Times vastly underestimated the October 26 anti-war march in Washington, reporting that turnout was only in the "thousands," far "below expectations." Actually, between 100,000 (police estimate) and 200,000 (Pacifica's count) people gathered that Saturday on the Mall for a protest of global, historic impact. It took a monsoon of emailed complaints to prompt the Times to issue a corrective story on the following Wednesday, confirming that the huge turnout had se
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:36 am | #
This morning on NPR's Week-end edition Daniel Schorr, no less, referred to "Bush's initial offer of $35 million".
There is no end to it.
In a Nutshell |
01.01.05 - 11:40 am | #
This morning on NPR's Week-end edition Daniel Schorr, no less, referred to "Bush's initial offer of $35 million".
There is no end to it.
In a Nutshell |
01.01.05 - 11:40 am | #
NYT Brooks: "It's certainly wrong to turn this into yet another petty political spat, as many tried, disgustingly, to do."
Far more important to Brooks that Prince George not be shamed than lives be saved.
4WD |
01.01.05 - 11:41 am | #
NYT Brooks: "It's certainly wrong to turn this into yet another petty political spat, as many tried, disgustingly, to do."
Far more important to Brooks that Prince George not be shamed than lives be saved.
4WD |
01.01.05 - 11:41 am | #
I think that we should start referring to the NY Times as "the old Gray Whore."
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:45 am | #
I think that we should start referring to the NY Times as "the old Gray Whore."
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:45 am | #
Daniel Schorr is and always has been an "establishment player." What I mean by this, is that when all is said and done, he will hardly ever question the assumption that America is the all benevolent and altruistic force for good in the world, and that our leaders, rather than often being self-serving, dishonest, and corrupt assholes, just merely make "grave mistakes."
Schorr is also a propagandist, as far as I'm concerned.
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:48 am | #
Daniel Schorr is and always has been an "establishment player." What I mean by this, is that when all is said and done, he will hardly ever question the assumption that America is the all benevolent and altruistic force for good in the world, and that our leaders, rather than often being self-serving, dishonest, and corrupt assholes, just merely make "grave mistakes."
Schorr is also a propagandist, as far as I'm concerned.
Jeremiah Elias |
01.01.05 - 11:48 am | #
This morning on NPR's Week-end edition Daniel Schorr, no less, referred to "Bush's initial offer of $35 million".
As long as the pussy dem commentators on tomorrows Sunday news shows rebut this and correct anyone who says otherwise then we should be ok. But if some so-called 'liberal commentator' sits there and says nothing while falsehoods are being spread then we have a problem, not with the news being full of lies, but passive pussy dems and liberals who should be run out of town. I'll wait till tomorrow to see if this is the case. If they correct them we're in good shape, if they sit there and say nothing, then go after the pussy dems, not the other people cause they you can't change. The pussy dems/liberals we can change cause the fascists don't really care who we put on those shows.
This morning on NPR's Week-end edition Daniel Schorr, no less, referred to "Bush's initial offer of $35 million".
As long as the pussy dem commentators on tomorrows Sunday news shows rebut this and correct anyone who says otherwise then we should be ok. But if some so-called 'liberal commentator' sits there and says nothing while falsehoods are being spread then we have a problem, not with the news being full of lies, but passive pussy dems and liberals who should be run out of town. I'll wait till tomorrow to see if this is the case. If they correct them we're in good shape, if they sit there and say nothing, then go after the pussy dems, not the other people cause they you can't change. The pussy dems/liberals we can change cause the fascists don't really care who we put on those shows.
Honestly, can you get a least a few things right in your newspaper? The article of this day on the ten-fold increase in funding for the tsunami victims is a lie. David Sanger and Warren Hoge should be taught to do elementary research to verify their facts.
TRUTH: The Bush Administration initally offered 15 million dollars: a pitiful amount for a country as large and prosperous as ours. This is the link to the story. Please look at it and make corrections as necessary.
Honestly, can you get a least a few things right in your newspaper? The article of this day on the ten-fold increase in funding for the tsunami victims is a lie. David Sanger and Warren Hoge should be taught to do elementary research to verify their facts.
TRUTH: The Bush Administration initally offered 15 million dollars: a pitiful amount for a country as large and prosperous as ours. This is the link to the story. Please look at it and make corrections as necessary.
Even though there is no link to 'discuss' Brook's latest scold for questioning King George (why?), NYT readers linked through previous op-ed pieces to tell Brooks he's full of it. http://tinyurl.com/4yk8g
Even though there is no link to 'discuss' Brook's latest scold for questioning King George (why?), NYT readers linked through previous op-ed pieces to tell Brooks he's full of it. http://tinyurl.com/4yk8g
I think NBC is more worthy of distrust than the NYT-esp. MSNBC- the block of shows they have opposite to Fox in prime time do nothing but bash Democrats-Chris Matthews being the most egregious of the bunch, and he is the Democrat.
I like Frank Rich and Maureen Dowd.
Roberta |
01.01.05 - 12:00 pm | #
I think NBC is more worthy of distrust than the NYT-esp. MSNBC- the block of shows they have opposite to Fox in prime time do nothing but bash Democrats-Chris Matthews being the most egregious of the bunch, and he is the Democrat.
I like Frank Rich and Maureen Dowd.
Roberta |
01.01.05 - 12:00 pm | #
The email address at the Times for complaints about accuracy in coverage
That was a perfect example of the bias of the MSM - they ignore the actual initial offering of 15 million - (they know it sounds especially cheap).
Now, over and over again, the media claims the initial offer was 35 mil -they just keep repeating the lie.
(Actually, that initial offer of 15 mil was so cheap, it should have been collected among the rich-white-trash Bush family members themselves, and given as a private donation to the cause.)
Dorothy M. Ligon |
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01.01.05 - 12:05 pm | #
That was a perfect example of the bias of the MSM - they ignore the actual initial offering of 15 million - (they know it sounds especially cheap).
Now, over and over again, the media claims the initial offer was 35 mil -they just keep repeating the lie.
(Actually, that initial offer of 15 mil was so cheap, it should have been collected among the rich-white-trash Bush family members themselves, and given as a private donation to the cause.)
Dorothy M. Ligon |
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01.01.05 - 12:05 pm | #
We might want to make sure any letters sent to the paper are not so confrontational. If we chastise them they might just get angry enough not to bother with it out of spite.
If we appear like a conservative in our demeanor they might feal it's being corrected for the sake of correction.
If we think this is a paper that has been overrun by GOP spooks then we need to make them think we're one of them, not one of those people from the other side whose opinions they want to squash.
Think of it as a special assignment to infiltrate and win through internal subversion.
We might want to make sure any letters sent to the paper are not so confrontational. If we chastise them they might just get angry enough not to bother with it out of spite.
If we appear like a conservative in our demeanor they might feal it's being corrected for the sake of correction.
If we think this is a paper that has been overrun by GOP spooks then we need to make them think we're one of them, not one of those people from the other side whose opinions they want to squash.
Think of it as a special assignment to infiltrate and win through internal subversion.
Frank Rich has been on a tear lately.
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.01.05 - 12:10 pm | #
I like Frank Rich and Maureen Dowd.
Frank Rich has been on a tear lately.
The Kenosha Kid |
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01.01.05 - 12:10 pm | #
Is it collective amnesia or has the meaning of the word 'initial' been changed?
That was my question to NPR (I've written to 'On the Media'* and cc'd the ombudsmand and wesat @npr).
* The only news related program still worth listening to on NPR.
In a Nutshell |
01.01.05 - 12:13 pm | #
Is it collective amnesia or has the meaning of the word 'initial' been changed?
That was my question to NPR (I've written to 'On the Media'* and cc'd the ombudsmand and wesat @npr).
* The only news related program still worth listening to on NPR.
In a Nutshell |
01.01.05 - 12:13 pm | #
I would not hold my breath waiting for this money to appear-Bush is just going through the motions of "the compassion thing". A shell game, like the AIDS funding, etc.
bob h |
01.01.05 - 12:21 pm | #
I would not hold my breath waiting for this money to appear-Bush is just going through the motions of "the compassion thing". A shell game, like the AIDS funding, etc.
bob h |
01.01.05 - 12:21 pm | #
It started out at $4 million, not $15 million.
This AM's Boston Globe:
"President Bush announced a tenfold increase in US aid to tsunami victims yesterday, pledging $350 million, as relief supplies poured into Asia from around the world.
The United States originally pledged $4 million, then raised it to $15 million, and then $35 million -- an amount that critics of the administration said fell short."
Even Fox has it: "On the second day of the crisis, America's $4 million pledge was increased to $15 million, (Colin) Powell said. Three days after the tragedy, the U.S. aid was expanded to $35 million."
Good gravy, the Washington Times has it too: "The United States pledged $4 million the day after the tsunami struck. That amount was increased to $15 million on the second day of the crisis and to $35 million on the third day."
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01.01.05 - 12:38 pm | #
It started out at $4 million, not $15 million.
This AM's Boston Globe:
"President Bush announced a tenfold increase in US aid to tsunami victims yesterday, pledging $350 million, as relief supplies poured into Asia from around the world.
The United States originally pledged $4 million, then raised it to $15 million, and then $35 million -- an amount that critics of the administration said fell short."
Even Fox has it: "On the second day of the crisis, America's $4 million pledge was increased to $15 million, (Colin) Powell said. Three days after the tragedy, the U.S. aid was expanded to $35 million."
Good gravy, the Washington Times has it too: "The United States pledged $4 million the day after the tsunami struck. That amount was increased to $15 million on the second day of the crisis and to $35 million on the third day."
knobboy |
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01.01.05 - 12:38 pm | #
The initial offering WASN'T $15 million.
It was $2 million. Then it was doubled to $4 million. And on and on.
I know. I heard the radio reports myself. And me, the amateur geologist that I am in my spare time, knew right there and then that $4 million was a drop in the bucket compared with the damage that a tsunami caused by an 8.9 magnitude subsea earthquake.
Why didn't the entire U.S. government know that before a piddly-assed $4 million was pledged? Why didn't they wait a day or two--or just say they were analyzing the situation?
It was $2 million. Then it was doubled to $4 million. And on and on.
I know. I heard the radio reports myself. And me, the amateur geologist that I am in my spare time, knew right there and then that $4 million was a drop in the bucket compared with the damage that a tsunami caused by an 8.9 magnitude subsea earthquake.
Why didn't the entire U.S. government know that before a piddly-assed $4 million was pledged? Why didn't they wait a day or two--or just say they were analyzing the situation?
The truly unbelievable thing is that there is no one in the administration savvy enough to just announce: "As events unfold, we will do whatever we can, whatever is appropriate" and not mention a figure! Then each day, stage a PR event to announce: "As we learn the facts, to date the US has spent $XXX; we have sent this many aid workers; private American citizens have donated this much..."
[The cynical side of me tells me to believe it when I see the pledge money actually spent though, ie, AIDs funding - announce a big initiative and just don't fund it.]
Cecil |
01.01.05 - 1:13 pm | #
The truly unbelievable thing is that there is no one in the administration savvy enough to just announce: "As events unfold, we will do whatever we can, whatever is appropriate" and not mention a figure! Then each day, stage a PR event to announce: "As we learn the facts, to date the US has spent $XXX; we have sent this many aid workers; private American citizens have donated this much..."
[The cynical side of me tells me to believe it when I see the pledge money actually spent though, ie, AIDs funding - announce a big initiative and just don't fund it.]
Cecil |
01.01.05 - 1:13 pm | #
Let them have their stinking $35 million.
Japan has pledged $500 million.
It's a badge of honor among smaller countries to shame the U.S.'s paltry aid offer(s).
Where is Shrub, by the way?
Has anybody seen him in the past few days?
Wildebeest |
01.01.05 - 1:19 pm | #
Let them have their stinking $35 million.
Japan has pledged $500 million.
It's a badge of honor among smaller countries to shame the U.S.'s paltry aid offer(s).
Where is Shrub, by the way?
Has anybody seen him in the past few days?
Wildebeest |
01.01.05 - 1:19 pm | #
Hey, give Bush a break. It just turns out that the initial evaluation of the scope of the disaster was based on 'bad intelligence'.
Barry in Portland |
01.01.05 - 1:22 pm | #
Hey, give Bush a break. It just turns out that the initial evaluation of the scope of the disaster was based on 'bad intelligence'.
Barry in Portland |
01.01.05 - 1:22 pm | #
>>an amount that critics of the administration said fell short."
As quoted in the Boston Globe. it shouldn't have been just "critics of the Bush administration."
It should have been anyone with true compassion critizing the tightwads in control of our money.
But D and Rs with compassion guilted them into it. I like that it happened. I don't like that the party of morality needs to be shown the way.
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01.01.05 - 1:29 pm | #
>>an amount that critics of the administration said fell short."
As quoted in the Boston Globe. it shouldn't have been just "critics of the Bush administration."
It should have been anyone with true compassion critizing the tightwads in control of our money.
But D and Rs with compassion guilted them into it. I like that it happened. I don't like that the party of morality needs to be shown the way.
AndrewBB |
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01.01.05 - 1:29 pm | #
"Hey, give Bush a break. It just turns out that the initial evaluation of the scope of the disaster was based on 'bad intelligence'.
Barry in Portland |"
In Preznit Jerkoff's case, NO intelligence whatsoever.
The people who support him - even less!
Terry C |
01.01.05 - 1:44 pm | #
"Hey, give Bush a break. It just turns out that the initial evaluation of the scope of the disaster was based on 'bad intelligence'.
Barry in Portland |"
In Preznit Jerkoff's case, NO intelligence whatsoever.
The people who support him - even less!
Terry C |
01.01.05 - 1:44 pm | #
Bush Co. would rather spend money killing people and destroying their country.
Terry C |
01.01.05 - 1:45 pm | #
Bush Co. would rather spend money killing people and destroying their country.
Terry C |
01.01.05 - 1:45 pm | #
"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!" -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President
"Billions for carnage and destruction, a few miserly shekels for token humanitarian aid." -- Smirky McChimp, Major League Asshole
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nattering nabob |
01.01.05 - 1:56 pm | #
"Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute!" -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President
"Billions for carnage and destruction, a few miserly shekels for token humanitarian aid." -- Smirky McChimp, Major League Asshole
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nattering nabob |
01.01.05 - 1:56 pm | #
Hey Terry C and the rest of you fuckbeans -
How much have you donated?
I bet ıt's much less than the money you wasted helpıng a Republıcan Sweep last electıon.
Just fuckıng do somethıng!
Oh that's rıght....we're lıberals Dahhhlıng. We don't actually DO anythıng!
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 1:58 pm | #
Hey Terry C and the rest of you fuckbeans -
How much have you donated?
I bet ıt's much less than the money you wasted helpıng a Republıcan Sweep last electıon.
Just fuckıng do somethıng!
Oh that's rıght....we're lıberals Dahhhlıng. We don't actually DO anythıng!
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 1:58 pm | #
Actually, according to none other than Faux (Dec. 17, 2004) the initial figure, given as "immediate aid," was $400,000. It was then "expected" that the U.S. would give an additional $4 million "in the near future."
Yes, I realize that the $400,000 was immediate, emergency aid while people were trying to figure out just how bad this was (while the rest of the world had a clue). But by any rational account, the intial "pledge" was a paltry $4 million.
Your "compassionate conservative" at work. Or, rather, on vacation.
Julie |
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01.01.05 - 2:00 pm | #
Actually, according to none other than Faux (Dec. 17, 2004) the initial figure, given as "immediate aid," was $400,000. It was then "expected" that the U.S. would give an additional $4 million "in the near future."
Yes, I realize that the $400,000 was immediate, emergency aid while people were trying to figure out just how bad this was (while the rest of the world had a clue). But by any rational account, the intial "pledge" was a paltry $4 million.
Your "compassionate conservative" at work. Or, rather, on vacation.
Julie |
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01.01.05 - 2:00 pm | #
What have you gıven you hypocrıtıcal cunt?
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 2:04 pm | #
FUCK YOU JULIE!
What have you gıven you hypocrıtıcal cunt?
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 2:04 pm | #
What's that Paul Newman? You say there's a fire? Shit! Just keep quiet, put on your tux and come up to the 135th floor party, damn it.
Bill Holden |
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01.01.05 - 2:04 pm | #
What's that Paul Newman? You say there's a fire? Shit! Just keep quiet, put on your tux and come up to the 135th floor party, damn it.
Bill Holden |
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01.01.05 - 2:04 pm | #
Hey, give Bush a break. It just turns out that the initial evaluation of the scope of the disaster was based on 'bad intelligence'.
He's busy working out how he can funnel the money to 'faith-based' charities who will vote Rethuglican. Look forward to air-drops of bibles to starving muslims.
"Do they have bibles? Can we get bibles to them?" -- Chimp's first reaction on hearing that 24 US spy plane crew were being held in China
California |
01.01.05 - 2:06 pm | #
Hey, give Bush a break. It just turns out that the initial evaluation of the scope of the disaster was based on 'bad intelligence'.
He's busy working out how he can funnel the money to 'faith-based' charities who will vote Rethuglican. Look forward to air-drops of bibles to starving muslims.
"Do they have bibles? Can we get bibles to them?" -- Chimp's first reaction on hearing that 24 US spy plane crew were being held in China
California |
01.01.05 - 2:06 pm | #
And do tell, my young Castrattıo Calıfornıa...What have you gıven you hypocrıt?
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 2:13 pm | #
And do tell, my young Castrattıo Calıfornıa...What have you gıven you hypocrıt?
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 2:13 pm | #
OK Susan, how much have YOU given?
____league |
01.01.05 - 2:18 pm | #
OK Susan, how much have YOU given?
____league |
01.01.05 - 2:18 pm | #
and just where will the $350 million come from?
From Rumsfailed's DOD? Medicare? Increase in taxes?
Where does USA have spare $350 millon bucks all of a sudden??!!
GWM |
01.01.05 - 2:20 pm | #
and just where will the $350 million come from?
From Rumsfailed's DOD? Medicare? Increase in taxes?
Where does USA have spare $350 millon bucks all of a sudden??!!
GWM |
01.01.05 - 2:20 pm | #
Hey, guys -
Remember me? Happy New Year.
$15 mil? $35 mil? Who cares? I'm still gettin' paid.
Have we paid for AIDS care in Africa, like we promised, yet?
The rest of the world won't be holding its breath this time, either, I'm sure.
Robert M. Jeffers |
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01.01.05 - 2:31 pm | #
and just where will the $350 million come from?
Promises, promises, doncha know?
Have we paid for AIDS care in Africa, like we promised, yet?
The rest of the world won't be holding its breath this time, either, I'm sure.
Robert M. Jeffers |
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01.01.05 - 2:31 pm | #
Maybe it's not the wisest thing to do, but I can't help getting a little snarky in my correction letters to the Times. I mean, is there anybody who believes that their journalists are that incompetent, or suffering from Alzheimer's perhaps, and that this kind of crap is not deliberate?
Karin |
01.01.05 - 2:36 pm | #
Maybe it's not the wisest thing to do, but I can't help getting a little snarky in my correction letters to the Times. I mean, is there anybody who believes that their journalists are that incompetent, or suffering from Alzheimer's perhaps, and that this kind of crap is not deliberate?
Karin |
01.01.05 - 2:36 pm | #
Of course it's deliberate, damn it. But it's warm and toasty up here on 135th floor America in the towering inferno of our psy-op delusions.
Keep dancin' Astaire you GD dead 'ho!
Bill Holden |
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01.01.05 - 2:45 pm | #
Of course it's deliberate, damn it. But it's warm and toasty up here on 135th floor America in the towering inferno of our psy-op delusions.
Keep dancin' Astaire you GD dead 'ho!
Bill Holden |
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01.01.05 - 2:45 pm | #
I hear the chocolate ration is going up as well.
Don't get too excited about the increased assistance. Odds are that 240 million will go to Bechtel to build water treatment plants which will give Rumsfeld's company a stranglehold on access to water there. The original, original amount is probably all that will go for immediate assistance.
George Johnston |
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01.01.05 - 2:53 pm | #
I hear the chocolate ration is going up as well.
Don't get too excited about the increased assistance. Odds are that 240 million will go to Bechtel to build water treatment plants which will give Rumsfeld's company a stranglehold on access to water there. The original, original amount is probably all that will go for immediate assistance.
George Johnston |
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01.01.05 - 2:53 pm | #
$1000 league you dumbfuck.
As I posted last nıght, I support 2 orphanages ın Ukraıne (Zaporızıa and Donetsk - phonetıc spellıng), otherwıse I would have gıven more. As ıt ıs, I may just double that.
So put your money where your mouth ıs motherfucker.
How much have you gıven?
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 3:06 pm | #
$1000 league you dumbfuck.
As I posted last nıght, I support 2 orphanages ın Ukraıne (Zaporızıa and Donetsk - phonetıc spellıng), otherwıse I would have gıven more. As ıt ıs, I may just double that.
So put your money where your mouth ıs motherfucker.
How much have you gıven?
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 3:06 pm | #
Susan:
Not that it's any of your business, but my figure is $100, which cleared out my bank account. How much have YOU given? ::sweet smile::
And speaking of private donations, I'm waiting for Halliburton, KB&R, Bechtel, Boeing and all the other war profiteers to step up.
Julie |
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01.01.05 - 3:07 pm | #
Susan:
Not that it's any of your business, but my figure is $100, which cleared out my bank account. How much have YOU given? ::sweet smile::
And speaking of private donations, I'm waiting for Halliburton, KB&R, Bechtel, Boeing and all the other war profiteers to step up.
Julie |
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01.01.05 - 3:07 pm | #
Julıe,
I respect your contrıbutıon. Sacrıfıcıal gıveıng ıs sacrıfıcıal dependant on the person.
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 3:10 pm | #
Julıe,
I respect your contrıbutıon. Sacrıfıcıal gıveıng ıs sacrıfıcıal dependant on the person.
Susan Sontag |
01.01.05 - 3:10 pm | #
Fake Susan Sontag...come on down. You're the next self-canonized contestant on the Saint is Right!
Pope J2P2 |
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01.01.05 - 3:12 pm | #
Fake Susan Sontag...come on down. You're the next self-canonized contestant on the Saint is Right!
Pope J2P2 |
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01.01.05 - 3:12 pm | #
Hey false Susan:
(Classic literature for your troll ass)
Oh, no! don't take me, wait a little till the big billy-goat Gruff comes, he's much bigger."
"Very well! be off with you," said the Troll.
But just then up came the big billy-goat Gruff.
"TRIP, TRAP! TRIP, TRAP! TRIP, TRAP!" went the bridge, for the billy-goat was so heavy that the bridge creaked and groaned under him.
"WHO'S THAT tramping over my bridge?" roared the Troll.
"IT'S I! THE BIG BILLY-GOAT GRUFF," said the billy-goat, who had an ugly hoarse voice of his own.
"Now I'm coming to gobble you up," roared the Troll,
"Well, come along! I've got two spears,
And I'll poke your eyeballs out at your ears;
I've got besides two curling-stones,
And I'll crush you to bits, body and bones."
DWD |
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01.01.05 - 3:55 pm | #
Hey false Susan:
(Classic literature for your troll ass)
Oh, no! don't take me, wait a little till the big billy-goat Gruff comes, he's much bigger."
"Very well! be off with you," said the Troll.
But just then up came the big billy-goat Gruff.
"TRIP, TRAP! TRIP, TRAP! TRIP, TRAP!" went the bridge, for the billy-goat was so heavy that the bridge creaked and groaned under him.
"WHO'S THAT tramping over my bridge?" roared the Troll.
"IT'S I! THE BIG BILLY-GOAT GRUFF," said the billy-goat, who had an ugly hoarse voice of his own.
"Now I'm coming to gobble you up," roared the Troll,
"Well, come along! I've got two spears,
And I'll poke your eyeballs out at your ears;
I've got besides two curling-stones,
And I'll crush you to bits, body and bones."
DWD |
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01.01.05 - 3:55 pm | #
I'm just glad the 350 million is now on the table. Sounds like for once, the outrage of the international community actually swayed the current administration to not double, not triple, but multiply the original aid package by 100 times.
Now let's do more of that.
Vestal Vespa |
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01.01.05 - 4:33 pm | #
I'm just glad the 350 million is now on the table. Sounds like for once, the outrage of the international community actually swayed the current administration to not double, not triple, but multiply the original aid package by 100 times.
Now let's do more of that.
Vestal Vespa |
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01.01.05 - 4:33 pm | #
I'll bet what happened is that the fuckup's old man cuffed the dipshit and told him he was fucking up big time by not reacting sooner.
What a disgrace to the human race the fratboy coward is. The sooner he's dragged in chains to Den Haag, the better.
Gary Frazier |
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01.01.05 - 5:11 pm | #
I'll bet what happened is that the fuckup's old man cuffed the dipshit and told him he was fucking up big time by not reacting sooner.
What a disgrace to the human race the fratboy coward is. The sooner he's dragged in chains to Den Haag, the better.
Gary Frazier |
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01.01.05 - 5:11 pm | #
Naturally, the 'Liberal Media' didn't ask any uncomfortable questions. This should have been a campaign issue. (Subject: lying).
4WD |
01.01.05 - 5:30 pm | #
Naturally, the 'Liberal Media' didn't ask any uncomfortable questions. This should have been a campaign issue. (Subject: lying).
4WD |
01.01.05 - 5:30 pm | #
After the $15 mill was bumped up to $35 mill.,
Pfizer--the pharmaceutical corporation- announced it would pledge $35 million. For a day the US government was out pledged by one company.
The next day, just in time for that weekend newscycle of Television Pundits bloviating ad nauseum, the $350 million US pledge was announced.
pbb |
01.01.05 - 6:05 pm | #
After the $15 mill was bumped up to $35 mill.,
Pfizer--the pharmaceutical corporation- announced it would pledge $35 million. For a day the US government was out pledged by one company.
The next day, just in time for that weekend newscycle of Television Pundits bloviating ad nauseum, the $350 million US pledge was announced.
pbb |
01.01.05 - 6:05 pm | #
Just came back from Yelepa in Mexico, and found out that our president is still the number one fuck of the world! My wife's friend was in the area of the Tsunami, and we are hoping she is alive and well.
I hope the opposite for our current idiot in chief.
Mark Andresen |
01.01.05 - 6:17 pm | #
Just came back from Yelepa in Mexico, and found out that our president is still the number one fuck of the world! My wife's friend was in the area of the Tsunami, and we are hoping she is alive and well.
I hope the opposite for our current idiot in chief.
Mark Andresen |
01.01.05 - 6:17 pm | #
Our boy George is in a pickle. He just couldn't tear himself away from clearing brush this week. And, damned if it isn't hard as hell leading the world from a remote location on private property.
His piple got upset because Clinton, the past president of the United States, overstepped himself and suggested that there might need to be some serious international coordination of aid.
Truth is, our boy George has been on a very well calculated drug regimen this week. He had to pull himself together on Wednesday but then his piple had to get back to the important business of making him presentable come January 3rd.
O U T N O W !!!!!!!
m |
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01.01.05 - 7:00 pm | #
Our boy George is in a pickle. He just couldn't tear himself away from clearing brush this week. And, damned if it isn't hard as hell leading the world from a remote location on private property.
His piple got upset because Clinton, the past president of the United States, overstepped himself and suggested that there might need to be some serious international coordination of aid.
Truth is, our boy George has been on a very well calculated drug regimen this week. He had to pull himself together on Wednesday but then his piple had to get back to the important business of making him presentable come January 3rd.
O U T N O W !!!!!!!
m |
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01.01.05 - 7:00 pm | #
The Indy Star featured the AP article trumpeting the "initial $35 million" prominently on the 1st page today. I was truly annoyed , but became even more so when I discovered that they had run stories claiming the initial offer was $35 million on Dec 30 & Dec 31!!!!
Apparently fact checking, even something as easily checked as this, is beyond the reach of either the AP or The Indy Star.
Deb Reichmann has stories bylined both Dec 30 & Jan 1 citing the $35 figure. I can't believe that the AP hasn't been deluged with emailws noting the incorrect figure. A cynical person might believe that the AP had no interest in correcting the figure.
Hoosiercat |
01.01.05 - 7:13 pm | #
The Indy Star featured the AP article trumpeting the "initial $35 million" prominently on the 1st page today. I was truly annoyed , but became even more so when I discovered that they had run stories claiming the initial offer was $35 million on Dec 30 & Dec 31!!!!
Apparently fact checking, even something as easily checked as this, is beyond the reach of either the AP or The Indy Star.
Deb Reichmann has stories bylined both Dec 30 & Jan 1 citing the $35 figure. I can't believe that the AP hasn't been deluged with emailws noting the incorrect figure. A cynical person might believe that the AP had no interest in correcting the figure.
Hoosiercat |
01.01.05 - 7:13 pm | #
I guess compassionate conservatism means using compassion sparingly.
George Johnston |
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01.01.05 - 7:29 pm | #
I guess compassionate conservatism means using compassion sparingly.
George Johnston |
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01.01.05 - 7:29 pm | #
Geez, what a chance to change course!
Pull out of Iraq by announcing we've
won, and now we are needed elsewhere!
Besides - they have oil there, too.
LimaBN |
01.01.05 - 8:31 pm | #
Geez, what a chance to change course!
Pull out of Iraq by announcing we've
won, and now we are needed elsewhere!
Besides - they have oil there, too.
LimaBN |
01.01.05 - 8:31 pm | #
There are news reports that the USS Abraham Lincoln sent its Seahawk helicopters ahead and the helicopters spent all day ferrying supplies, and that the carrier is now three miles off the coast.
They must have been hauling ass to get there that quick.
Well done.
Outside the Echo Chamber |
01.01.05 - 9:25 pm | #
There are news reports that the USS Abraham Lincoln sent its Seahawk helicopters ahead and the helicopters spent all day ferrying supplies, and that the carrier is now three miles off the coast.
They must have been hauling ass to get there that quick.
Well done.
Outside the Echo Chamber |
01.01.05 - 9:25 pm | #
Not only the oil, they've got muslims we can kill, as well!
Happy Days for everyone!
Ryan |
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01.01.05 - 11:40 pm | #
Not only the oil, they've got muslims we can kill, as well!
Happy Days for everyone!
Ryan |
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01.01.05 - 11:40 pm | #
The USS Abraham Lincoln was in Hong Kong when they were diverted for the emergency mission. A lot closer than its base in Everette, WA.
Crone |
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01.02.05 - 12:25 am | #
The USS Abraham Lincoln was in Hong Kong when they were diverted for the emergency mission. A lot closer than its base in Everette, WA.
Crone |
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01.02.05 - 12:25 am | #
Welcome to the machine.
Jon R. Koppenhoefer |
01.02.05 - 2:34 am | #
Welcome to the machine.
Jon R. Koppenhoefer |
01.02.05 - 2:34 am | #
In fairness, the NYT could say that by the "initial American pledge" it meant the first increment of U.S. relief (since we've indicated there will be more -- if that's right; I'm not sure if the Bushies have said more money beyond the $350 M will be forthcoming). The "initial American pledge" was first at $15 million, then was increased to $35 million, and has now been increased again to $350 million. Of course, even if the NYT really meant that, there's no reason it couldn't have been clearer.
Frederick |
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01.02.05 - 10:36 am | #
In fairness, the NYT could say that by the "initial American pledge" it meant the first increment of U.S. relief (since we've indicated there will be more -- if that's right; I'm not sure if the Bushies have said more money beyond the $350 M will be forthcoming). The "initial American pledge" was first at $15 million, then was increased to $35 million, and has now been increased again to $350 million. Of course, even if the NYT really meant that, there's no reason it couldn't have been clearer.
Frederick |
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01.02.05 - 10:36 am | #
I find it funny that you morons are harping about what Bush did or didn't do. I can say one thing, Bush got aid going much quicker than the EU OR the UN. Where are they at? Here it is a week later and not one pic of a EU or UN plane delivering food stuffs, medicines, etc..
Pull your heads out of your asses so you might see for the first time.
John F. Kerry |
01.02.05 - 11:36 am | #
I find it funny that you morons are harping about what Bush did or didn't do. I can say one thing, Bush got aid going much quicker than the EU OR the UN. Where are they at? Here it is a week later and not one pic of a EU or UN plane delivering food stuffs, medicines, etc..
Pull your heads out of your asses so you might see for the first time.
John F. Kerry |
01.02.05 - 11:36 am | #
When a Dem changes their mind like this, it's called "flipflopping".
taistoi |
01.02.05 - 11:51 am | #
When a Dem changes their mind like this, it's called "flipflopping".
taistoi |
01.02.05 - 11:51 am | #
Here it is a week later and not one pic of a EU or UN plane delivering food stuffs, medicines, etc..
Right, if you didn't see it on Fox News then it doesn't exist.
Come to think of it, I haven't see one pic of a US plane delivering anything, either.
Fuckwit.
California |
01.02.05 - 3:09 pm | #
Here it is a week later and not one pic of a EU or UN plane delivering food stuffs, medicines, etc..
Right, if you didn't see it on Fox News then it doesn't exist.
Come to think of it, I haven't see one pic of a US plane delivering anything, either.
Fuckwit.
California |
01.02.05 - 3:09 pm | #