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Iron Frist?
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:27 pm | #

Boing!
A. Pig | 01.01.05 - 7:27 pm | #

Awright, first *on* the First!
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:28 pm | #

Too bad Haloscan is assed again...
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:28 pm | #

I love how Time was backpedaling, saying that "Person of the Year" was more about the person who had the most influence over the year's events, not the person the editorial board most admired.

God knows, the cover portrait ain't all that kind to him.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 7:28 pm | #

I love how Time was backpedaling, saying that "Person of the Year" was more about the person who had the most influence over the year's events, not the person the editorial board most admired.

In all fairness, that's not a new line they just came up with. I think they said the same thing when Khomeini was MOTY, and I think they might actually mean it. Unfortunately, any time people see "Of The Year", that's assumed to mean they won something.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:30 pm | #

There should be a rule -- you're only allowed to be person of the year once. Like term limits.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 7:31 pm | #

Hey, Haloscan behaved itself for a whole 3/4 of a day.

Can't really ask for more than that.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 7:32 pm | #

Actually Dubbya wasn't their first choice for "Man of the Year"
David Ehrenstein | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:33 pm | #

Ehrenstein--you KILL!
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 7:33 pm | #

There should be a rule -- you're only allowed to be person of the year once. Like term limits.

Or maybe that once you receive the award, you should immediately retire from public life immediately and live the life of a hermit.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:35 pm | #

Why, that was beautyful.
mena | 01.01.05 - 7:37 pm | #

Eli; Wash Frist. Iron second.
Doozer among Fraggles | 01.01.05 - 7:37 pm | #

The problem with blogs is that anyone can get one, so people might start reading inappropriate opinions. As Our Great Leader once said, "there ought to be limits to freedom."

Too much democracy, that's the problem.
f | 01.01.05 - 7:38 pm | #

you can make him look stupid, you can make him look petty, you can make him look fey. you cannot make him look anything good.
kei & yuri | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:39 pm | #

Maybe if Time had used one of the shots from the Debates, where he looked like a petulant 9 year old with severe ADD, they wouldn't be doing all this backpedalling. We'd have got the joke.
Backpedalling is dangerous; you could fall and hurt yourself.
Or run over someone.
Doozer among Fraggles | 01.01.05 - 7:42 pm | #

Years from now Joe Trippi will be the man recognized as changing the political and media worlds. He singlehandedly started an incredible revolution...and almost created an unstoppable prairie fire to propel Howard Dean to national prominence. The Dems screwed Dean and Trippi...but in the end the Dem party bigwigs really did themselves the most harm. They're almost irrelevent now and it will take Trippi or someone else like him to start up that juggernaut once again. By all means the Bloggers...and in particular Joe Trippi, should have been the Man of the Year...make no mistake about it. The smart people already knew that. They can come up with their own candidates.
samlex | 01.01.05 - 7:42 pm | #

Man, that Andrew Sullivan is a genius of the first order.

Did you see how he compared the insurgents in Iraq to bloggers? Like they're both insurging? Insurgents.

That's bold, outside-the-box thinking, some next-level Oxford education type shit right there.
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 7:42 pm | #

He singlehandedly started an incredible revolution...and almost created an unstoppable prairie fire...

Did you bust a nut after you wrote that?
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 7:44 pm | #

I personally don't need to be governed, Mr. Sullivan.

Protection from the governers would be OK.

Besides, I like snipe, with a red wine and some feta cheese.
A. Pig | 01.01.05 - 7:44 pm | #

Atrios,

You completely rock. You just rock. Here's to another 365 days of speaking truth to power.
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 7:44 pm | #

Time does have a point. Hitler was man of the year. I should read the back issue and see if the story was fawning or not.
trifecta | 01.01.05 - 7:45 pm | #

Does anyone with a brain think that TIME's MOTY is left to the decision of something as pedestrian as an editorial board? Richard Parsons is the chairman of Time Warner...and a big Bush and Re-thug fundraiser. I'm sure Parsons allowed the editorial board to submit and opinion; but you can bet your ass they didn't make the final decision.
Filibuster | 01.01.05 - 7:46 pm | #

Eli; Wash Frist. Iron second.

Good call. Dryerly witty.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:46 pm | #

for the record...Time's position is that the Man or Woman of the year is the person who did the most to influence world affairs for better or for worse. That's how hitler and stalin got on the list. The man of the year title is not an AWARD...it is not a medal. But bush did not do the most to influence world affairs in 2004...he merely reacted to them rightly or wrongly. the man who did more to influence the world was Joe Trippi...and his fellow bloggers.
samlex | 01.01.05 - 7:47 pm | #

Wolcott says it all about Time -
Sue | 01.01.05 - 7:47 pm | #

It's amazing how Andrew Sullivan has this rare ability to pull different threads together from the wool of modern life and make a tapestry of understanding for us, the common folk.

It's like he saw this connection between the tens of thousands of unemployed, heavily armed Iraqis blowing the shit out of everything in Iraq and some nerdy white guys with computers.

A McArthur Genius Grant is in order.
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 7:47 pm | #

You completely rock. You just rock. Here's to another 365 days of speaking truth to power.

Amen. But wouldn't it be nice to see truth flowing in the opposite direction, too...
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:48 pm | #

did you bust a nut reading what I wrote?
samlex | 01.01.05 - 7:49 pm | #

First insurgents, then terrorists? Terrorblogs?

Just wonderin.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 7:49 pm | #

f sez: The problem with blogs is that anyone can get one, so people might start reading inappropriate opinions. As Our Great Leader once said, "there ought to be limits to freedom."

Too much democracy, that's the problem

And I like it so much I wanted to see it posted again. It's that "too much democracy" that really bothers Sully and the rest.
Tena | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:50 pm | #

I myself take way too many shots at Sullivan. Not because he doesn't deserve it. Just because it's so easy...and I'm so lazy.

Well, and it's fun, too. Don't forget the fun.
firedoglake | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:50 pm | #

Freedom from choice
Is what you want
Freedom of choice
Is what you got

Oh, for the good ol'days...
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:51 pm | #

did you bust a nut reading what I wrote?

Make 'em say uhhh.
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 7:51 pm | #

The tradional media is jealous of bloggers. Bloggers like Atrios built the same size audience in a couple years that it took the average newspaper 100 years to build
jr | 01.01.05 - 7:52 pm | #

I got published!

Elaine Supkis, Petersburgh, NY: “I do hope you forward all the pro-war letters to the Pentagon. Obviously, these men are eager to fight and since we are sending grannies and gramps to Iraq to fight, none of them are too old to put their money where their mouths are.
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 7:54 pm | #

Pinot Grigio and pearl onions.
A. Pig | 01.01.05 - 7:55 pm | #

wouldn't it be nice to see truth flowing in the opposite direction, too...

I believe that is physically impossible. At least it has never happend yet, in the history of the entire world, that I'm aware of. But I'm happy to be educated. Meanwhile, I am so grateful to have a place like Eschaton where I can get the antidote to poison like Time Magazine.
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 7:55 pm | #

The bloggers blugeon the bastards!!! Way to go, no?
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 7:55 pm | #

All right, Elaine! You go with your bad self! And, um, get... jiggy... or something...

I know just enough to be unhip.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:56 pm | #

Go, Elaine!
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 7:57 pm | #

The tradional media is jealous of bloggers.

I hope they're more than jealous. I hope they're scared.

Taibbi writes good shit for what? The NY Observer? Whatever that is? Danny Boy Okrent certainly writes malignant nonsense for the Great New York Times.

On this hand, good writing, small media. On the other, bad writing, big paper.

I wonder why that is? I wonder how long it can really last. I hope Arthur at the Times is wondering too.
Dr. Pedant | 01.01.05 - 7:58 pm | #

Go, Elaine!
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 7:58 pm | #

the so called liberal media took Dean down because his candidacy was anathema to its power...power derived by doing as Tiabbi suggested, sucking powerful people's dicks instead of stepping on their toes.

Question of the year should be:

Howard Dean went Yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa!!!!! during a pep rally and it was widely seen in the media as indicating he was unfit to be president.

Bush went "WOOOHOOOO FEELS GOOD" just before he invaded Iraq and yet the media ignored it.

Why?
SWR | 01.01.05 - 7:58 pm | #

Congratulations Elaine!
spinoza | 01.01.05 - 7:59 pm | #

Atrios,

You completely rock. You just rock. Here's to another 365 days of speaking truth to power.
Hecate
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But Atrios didn't say a thing. He just linked to another blogger who said it.

.
Corporate America | 01.01.05 - 7:59 pm | #

The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. By "half-staff" is meant lowering the flag to one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff. Crepe streamers may be affixed to spear heads or flagstaffs in a parade only by order of the President of the United States.
gary | 01.01.05 - 7:59 pm | #

Freedom from choice
Is what you want
Freedom of choice
Is what you got

Check out this CNN ad. You have the freedom to choose between
three affluent white men to tell you what's up in the wide world of factoids.
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 8:00 pm | #

Would gary be a meta-meta-troll? A dada troll? What?
Dr. Pedant | 01.01.05 - 8:01 pm | #

Elaine Supkis,

A happy moment! Good for you.
mer | 01.01.05 - 8:02 pm | #

sully, so long an object of scorn and derision among the washington gasbag class, performs in the manner of a convert or a late blooming born-againer and is very rah, rah and pro team.
sad, really, when one just knows the wheezing tubes that comprise ole charlie krauthammer still stutter occasional anti gay sully bon mots...or, as charlie would say, "b-b-bon m-m-m (gasp) mots".
give up the jeans and necktie crap sully...you are still a dirty queer in your "friends" eyes.
sean | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:03 pm | #

Check out this CNN ad. You have the freedom to choose between
three affluent white men to tell you what's up in the wide world of factoids.

It reminds me of a shell game.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 8:03 pm | #

"He singlehandedly started an incredible revolution...and almost created an unstoppable prairie fire...

Did you bust a nut after you wrote that?
Old Hat | Email | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:44 pm | # "

+++++++++++++++++

No, but I bet he singed some hairs on his sack.
WyldPirate | 01.01.05 - 8:03 pm | #

Elaine Supkis,

I've been reading your insights since I dunno when. I think I first saw you posting on the old CNN boards, and you've always made perfect sense to me.

In a perfect world, you'd have a high-profile column in a high-circulation publication.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:04 pm | #

My flag touched the ground. Do I need to destroy it?No. You should, of course, try to avoid having the flag touch the ground. But if it does, you should correct the situation immediately. If the flag has been dirtied, you should clean it by hand with a mild soap solution and dry it well before returning it to use.
gary | 01.01.05 - 8:04 pm | #

I almost slept with any number of desirable women.
Dr. Pedant | 01.01.05 - 8:05 pm | #

with George Bush's cock wedged firmly in its mouth.

Oh, what a perfectly wonderful image to start the new year!!!!!
flory | 01.01.05 - 8:05 pm | #

Dear Corporate America,

(Ohhhh, I've been waiting a long time for this one...)

Please go fuck yourself. What Atrios said clearly slipped below your radar. That's a good thing. Oh, and, go fuck yourself.
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 8:05 pm | #

SWR

Question of the year should be:

Howard Dean went Yeeeeeeehaaaaaaaa!!!!! during a pep rally and it was widely seen in the media as indicating he was unfit to be president.

Bush went "WOOOHOOOO FEELS GOOD" just before he invaded Iraq and yet the media ignored it.

Why?

You nailed it. Interesting that after the election, Rove said that he was glad they weren't going up against Dean. Don't know why the fuckwad Bush gets a pass...ALL the TIME.

D
Diogenes | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:05 pm | #

My flag touched the ground. Do I need to destroy it

Do I need to report this guy to Homeland Security?

He might be a terrorist. You can never be too careful. How would we all feel if he was in fact a terrorist and none of us did anything about it?
SWR | 01.01.05 - 8:05 pm | #

Every time I read Sullivan I want to ask him if kids ever made fun of him in school. Of course he'd answer, "Yes," which would lead to my next question: "Did you run after them, kiss their asses, and beg them to be your friends?"
Filibuster | 01.01.05 - 8:05 pm | #

"On the Internet, a volunteer army of bloggers escalated their guerrilla war against the mainstream media… Nevertheless, they stay on the margins—because, like all insurgents, they're about sniping, not governing."

After reading that from Sullivan (I have not read the article though) it speaks to me, informing that someone is winning a battle somewhere. Not the bloggers, but the community that bloggers belong to as a whole, people of good sense.

What price must Sullivan expect? And what price will he pay.

Okay Eli got one for you to figure out...

As Ace Hunter said:

"Its all on the wheel, what goes around, comes around"
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:06 pm | #

Would gary be a meta-meta-troll? A dada troll? What?

Trollipsist?
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:06 pm | #

Check out this CNN ad.

Three-dork monte.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:06 pm | #

It's hard to take this blog seriously with all the corporate shilling going on. Beginning to sound like instapundit.
huyter | 01.01.05 - 8:07 pm | #

i appreciate the flag ettiquette lessons, it reminds me of how poorly most people who fly it treat it.

like the idiot in my town who has it wrapped around a cross in the bed of his pickup, the wind generated by his driving having torn it to tatters.
coyote | 01.01.05 - 8:07 pm | #

Snipers mascot

Apologies to woot
Nota | 01.01.05 - 8:08 pm | #

Tena,

I'm glad you liked my comment about "too much democracy." It's not often that I can impress someone who can use the word "deliquesce" in everyday speech.

It's interesting, though, how technology tends to democratize communication. Someone once noted that the photocopier made everybody a publisher. Easy communication (fax, e-mail, cell phone, blog, etc.) makes it hard to keep things secret. Just think what the Bush administration would be capable of if those didn't exist.

I can see some holes in my reasoning, of course, but I'll let everyone else point them out.
f | 01.01.05 - 8:08 pm | #

Off topic: One of Tom Ridge's goodbye gifts to the chimp is a series of ads telling parents they need to terrorize their kids about terror attacks and come up with plans to deal with the swarthy ones.

These fuckers have no shame. All the housewives in bumfuck, Kansas need to be frightened that Omar is about to blow up the Dairy Queen and wipe out 1/3 of the town.
trifecta | 01.01.05 - 8:08 pm | #

Nevertheless, they stay on the margins—because, like all insurgents, they're about sniping, not governing."

This kind of thing has been said about the Left for at least forever.

Just give us a chance to govern, fuckface. We couldn't possibly do worse.
Dr. Pedant | 01.01.05 - 8:09 pm | #

"Its all on the wheel, what goes around, comes around"

Only had any idea because of the name Ace Hunter.

"You love them in red and you love them in blue; but most of all, you love them in blue."

I mean, WTF???
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:09 pm | #

Our flag has santorum and smegma all over it. Do I need to destroy it?
-Liddy Dole

No, send it to me along with a pickle and some mustard.
-gary
bebe rebozo | 01.01.05 - 8:09 pm | #

Has somebody mentioned this already? Time MOTY is not supposed to be an honor. They picked Stalin, back when Hitler tried to invade Russia.

And they've picked Ghandi. And Bush. So it comes across as an "Honor," when they just mean it to be: "We're so important, we'll tell you who had the most influence on events this year!"

I go with ABCNews: the most influential group this year (in America, at least), was bloggers (excluding yours truly entirely, BTW).

In fact, how often lately has Time picked a non-American for MOTY status? And, like the Academy Awards, who can name the winner last year? Or the year before?
Robert M. Jeffers | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:09 pm | #

Eagles rather than doves nestle in the Oval Office Christmas tree, pinecones the size of footballs piled around the fireplace, and the President of the United States is pretty close to lounging in Armchair One. He's wearing a blue pinstripe suit, and his shoes are shined bright enough to shave in. He is loose, lively, framing a point with his hands or extending his arm with his fingers up as though he's throwing a big idea gently across the room.

I bet some poor lackey spends a lot of time keeping those shoes shined.

Excuse me now, I have to go vomit.
____league | 01.01.05 - 8:10 pm | #

It's hard to take this blog seriously with all the corporate shilling going on.

Tell me about it. I can barely find Atrios's articles with all of the ads for UNICEF and the New School University cluttering up the page.
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 8:10 pm | #

When a NYT reporter gets it wrong, Okrent's got his back. When a blogger fucks up, he's out there all alone...

Two things I think the Blogosphere--at least the Blogdonia half; fuck Blogistan--can teach the big guys.
Humility.
How to cuss.
Doozer among Fraggles | 01.01.05 - 8:10 pm | #

One of Tom Ridge's goodbye gifts to the chimp is a series of ads telling parents they need to terrorize their kids about terror attacks and come up with plans to deal with the swarthy ones.

Of course. Without fear, people might actually start to think, God forbid.
Dr. Pedant | 01.01.05 - 8:10 pm | #

"give up the jeans and necktie crap sully...you are still a dirty queer in your "friends" eyes."

Why Alterman has so aptly dubbed him "Little Roy"

jp
jp | 01.01.05 - 8:12 pm | #

It's not that Time chose to make Bush Man of the Year -- I mean, they also chose Hitler.

It's that they fawned over him in the issue, from the cover portrait with the caption "American Revolutionary" to the profile that didn't quote a single critic.

And, to quote Wolcott quoting Taibbi:
"What kind of maniac puts eagles on a Christmas tree?"
Royko | 01.01.05 - 8:13 pm | #

Eli

I need to get my tape out, it was a very quotable movie. Actually I wonder if it is on DVD.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:13 pm | #

... framing a point with his hands or extending his arm with his fingers up as though he's throwing a big idea gently across the room

George W. Bush. Playing "keep 'em away" with big ideas for over 50 years.
SteveNS | 01.01.05 - 8:14 pm | #

Nota; Damn, you mean they're real?
Doozer among Fraggles | 01.01.05 - 8:14 pm | #

What kind of maniac puts eagles on a Christmas tree?"

A megalomaniac.
____league | 01.01.05 - 8:15 pm | #

I need to get my tape out, it was a very quotable movie.

I sure thought so. Bucket Of Blood and The Item might be the two most quotable of all time.

Oh, and Love Butcher...
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:15 pm | #

Observation about blogs:

I notice that many, many people spend many, many hours on blogs, etc. Is this medium really useful for something, or is it just a bunch of people "virutally" pissing in the wind? I mean, when's that last time anyone here has written to her representative? Gone to a school board meeting? Written a letter to the editor?

Just trying to keep us honest. Let's not forget that the real work that is to be done is to be done OUT THERE while RAISING HELL.
Diogenes | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:16 pm | #

You know if some of the right-wing bloggers were just conservatives who didn't like the media and not sociopathic racist freaks, I might have actually cheered on that Dan Rather incident.

I was watching Pat Buchanan subbing for Joe Scarborough and he had this woman named "Liz Brown" (she's some sort of radio host) on his show as the token liberal punching bag. He asked her the question about Dan Rather and she said "I agree with you. I don't like Dan Rather either. But I think the question should be why he said before the invasion of Iraq 'whatever Bush does I'm in his corner'".

Bang. Buchanan cut her off immediately. I think he might have even cut power to her mike.
SWR | 01.01.05 - 8:16 pm | #

What kind of maniac puts eagles on a Christmas tree?"

A megalomaniac.

Or an eaglomaniac.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:16 pm | #

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/m.../more/ 10834.htm
The gold trim is found on ceremonial flags, to be used indoors and for ceremonies only. They originally were used on military flags. The fringe has no specific significance, but is considered completely within the guidelines of proper flag etiquette. There is nothing in the flag code indicating that the fringe is for federal government flags only. The Internet contains many sites that claim that the fringe indicates martial law or that the Constitution does not apply in that area. These are entirely unfounded (usually citing Executive Order 10834 and inventing text that is not part of the order) and should be dismissed as urban legends.
gary | 01.01.05 - 8:17 pm | #

Is this medium really useful for something, or is it just a bunch of people "virutally" pissing in the wind?

Being informed and critical thinking about power are the first two duties of a citizen.
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 8:18 pm | #

During my very brief stint in journalism school, there was a lot of talk about journalists being gatekeepers -- deciding what was news and what wasn't, defining the topics and the parameters of national discourse. I always thought this was a dangerous proposition even at the best of times and as corporate journalism has become a shill for the powerful, we can now see how dangerous it truly is. The good thing is that bloggers have blown the gates wide open -- which is why the corporate journalists must desperately try to marginalize them. You don't want too much democracy in that national discourse thing -- someone might say something unsettling to power.
Toonscribe | 01.01.05 - 8:19 pm | #

"What kind of maniac puts eagles on a Christmas tree?"

Strong tree to hold up an entire band.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:20 pm | #

My European relatives often ask me how I cope with the fear, but they mean the fear of Bush.

Tonight my mother saw something on European television about our dear reverend Phelps and something else about the Bible police: police officers who refuse to obey anything but what they see as the Biblical law.
Have you heard of this? My mother thinks that I'll be in a burqa before very long...
Echidne of the snakes | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:20 pm | #

Stranger...the CNN boards! Hahaha. They shut them down after banning nearly every single liberal. I remember those bastards well...then Time magazine shut down, TT went pay to post and then The American Prospect got jiggered by right wingers flaming bullshit and then Atlantic Monthly went pay to freep etc.

Few homes left to haunt.
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 8:20 pm | #

This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:20 pm | #

Old Hat,

I agree completely. But, if critical thinking does not turn into action at critical moments, then it is for naught.
Diogenes | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:20 pm | #

Eli

I am going to to look those up, I don't think I have seen a one.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:21 pm | #

Hey everybody! Just wanted to let you know CBS has an Andy Griffith reunion show on right now. Opie, Andy, Gomer and Barney are all still alive!
Anonymous | 01.01.05 - 8:22 pm | #

homeland security ain't got nuthin on all the cool twilight zone episodes we've been zoning out on for 24 hours now. so many with fatalistic themes! a product of the times?
waiting | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:23 pm | #

I am going to to look those up, I don't think I have seen a one.

Can't go wrong with any of 'em - each one is a surreal, OTT hoot.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:23 pm | #

I agree completely. But, if critical thinking does not turn into action at critical moments, then it is for naught.

If nothing else, 100% of the people here voted, talked to their familes and friends about politics and the media and donated at least some money to organizations. Many more spent time registering voters, going to Meet Ups, etc.
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 8:23 pm | #

The tradional media is jealous of bloggers. Bloggers like Atrios built the same size audience in a couple years that it took the average newspaper 100 years to build
jr | Email | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 7:52 pm | #

Excellent point, jr. Even sweeter is the fact that Atrios built the audience making fun of the the incompetent hacks and shills in the MSM who sold their souls to the devil.
WyldPirate | Email | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:10 pm | #

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Even better is that his audience is smarter than theirs by a magnitude of at least 4, they're self-selected, and he got them by NOT selling out.
mena | 01.01.05 - 8:23 pm | #

I enjoyed the soft doughy image of dear leader on the TIME cover and can only imagine the smeary pastels were used to smooth the pouty lines of anger that normally score his visage. The longer I look at it the more female and Mary Worth-like the image becomes...strange.
sean | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:23 pm | #

If MOTY was really about who was "most influential", they would have made OBL the MOTY in 2001.
Oceanic | 01.01.05 - 8:23 pm | #

Flag burgas. Next!
hammurabi | 01.01.05 - 8:24 pm | #

He is loose, lively, framing a point with his hands or extending his arm with his fingers up as though he's throwing a big idea gently across the room.

When you get the dose right, that white powder can be really good for you.
____league | 01.01.05 - 8:25 pm | #

I done ben-wah ball exercises so long I can solve a Rubik's cube in my cooch.
-Liddy Dole
bebe rebozo | 01.01.05 - 8:26 pm | #

Flag burgas. Next!

Yes, indeed. Be sure to pick yours up at Burqa King right away!
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:27 pm | #

Stranger...the CNN boards! Hahaha.

I still remember the day that they closed them down. The liberals hit those boards with criticism of Bush that day that was completely overwhelming. The smug wingnuts on the boards couldn't possibly defend it all.

So CNN just closed it all down. For the longest time, you could go to the URL and see much of what happened that last day. Now it just re-directs to the CNN home page.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:27 pm | #

So you are saying Atrios is the Bard Of Pundit Puncturing?
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:28 pm | #

Echidne of the Snakes,

I haven't heard about that, but it's all a piece with pharmacists refusing to fill birth control prescriptions. Welcome to the Handmaid's Tale.
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 8:28 pm | #

My blow-up doll and I are Shocked,Shocked I tell you!
R.L. | 01.01.05 - 8:28 pm | #

Just trying to keep us honest. Let's not forget that the real work that is to be done is to be done OUT THERE while RAISING HELL.
Diogenes

I try to pick fights with wingers ... does that help?
Nads | 01.01.05 - 8:28 pm | #

I try to pick fights with wingers ... does that help?

Only if they end up dead or in jail.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:29 pm | #

longer I look at it the more female and Mary Worth-like the image becomes...strange.
sean

Mary Worth!!!

Bingo!

The rigid, censorious busybody, the shrivelled 'conscience' of the neighborhood, the secret tippler, the shrew, the crone...

nice read!
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | 01.01.05 - 8:30 pm | #

Isn't Mary Worth the comic there has never been a confirmed reader of in its history. Just as in a year or two you will find no self-admitted voter for Bush.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:31 pm | #

"My blow-up doll and I are Shocked,Shocked I tell you!
R.L."

Slow down dude, you need to catch your breath.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:32 pm | #

The rigid, censorious busybody, the shrivelled 'conscience' of the neighborhood, the secret tippler, the shrew, the crone...

And those are Shrubs good qualities.
____league | 01.01.05 - 8:33 pm | #

I try to pick fights with wingers ... does that help?

Only if they end up dead or in jail.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:29 pm | #

Or on the side of the New Jersey Turnpike just after sunrise with their pants down around their ankles, a strange feeling inside their heads, and a puzzled expression on their faces.
SWR | 01.01.05 - 8:33 pm | #

The longer I look at it the more female and Mary Worth-like the image becomes...strange.
sean | Email | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:23 pm

I hate to admit this, but our Dear Leader looks exactly like my Aunt Lucille in a bad mood.
Toonscribe | 01.01.05 - 8:33 pm | #

like the idiot in my town who has it wrapped around a cross in the bed of his pickup, the wind generated by his driving having torn it to tatters.

coyote

But don't dare burn it in protest, don't dare do that.

I think we need a constituational amendment banning rednecks and other "patriots" from buying or selling car window clip-on plastic flags that look like shit after 3 days.

I expect the Rethugs to put that up for a vote any minute now...
Tim-In-Houston | 01.01.05 - 8:33 pm | #

Elaine Supkis,

Snappy little snip you posted here. Please, mam', some more?
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 8:33 pm | #

the crone...

Not that that's a bad thing....

Oh, and BTW, I've passed several of those Bush portrait covers in the grocery store. Damndest thing how the price labels from the fruit wind up in the middle of the forehead....
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 8:34 pm | #

Snappy little snip you posted here. Please, mam', some more?

Be patient, I think she has to translate it from the original Pirate.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:35 pm | #

Thanks, Atrios for turning me on to Wolcott. It keeps me sane to see smart people writing about media fawning and the general corruption we endure today.
Raoul Paste | 01.01.05 - 8:35 pm | #

Hecate

That was too too funny.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:36 pm | #

Hecate

Do any of the fruit labels happen to have a 666 code?
____league | 01.01.05 - 8:37 pm | #

Just as in a year or two you will find no self-admitted voter for Bush.

Well, it's hard to find someone who admits to supporting Voldemort, too.

I hope Bush lives a long, long, time, so he can see the mess he has made of our country, and that he somehow acquires a conscience, so he can understand and regret what he did.
f | 01.01.05 - 8:37 pm | #

Hecate

That was too too funny.

Are they dime-sized labels?
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:37 pm | #

Yeah, Stranger. It started on the CNN gun nut boards, we wrung them out good there, and spread all over, we were told to stop and we refused.
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 8:37 pm | #

The first 4 feet of your front yard is government property.
Anonymous | 01.01.05 - 8:37 pm | #

Great idea about putting the friut stickers on Bu$h's halo. I'll have something to do while waiting on line from now on. Busy, busy.

BTW, Happy New Year all. Hope everone had fun last night, within reason, of course.
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 8:38 pm | #

i can't wait to go grocery shopping!
waiting | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:38 pm | #

I hope Bush lives a long, long, time, so he can see the mess he has made of our country, and that he somehow acquires a conscience, so he can understand and regret what he did.

I have long since given up all hope of Bush's internal monologue extending much beyond, "I got mine."
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:38 pm | #

Diogenes: I am guessing that many of the people here, but not all, have taken some of those steps. I certainly have (although to little effect, it seems).

And from a previous thread--the Green Valley Book Fair kicks ass! Many great acquisitions from the barn/hanger.
Jacobo | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:39 pm | #

"The first 4 feet of your front yard is government property.
Anonymous"

Then by God they can come and mow it for me. Its the worst part. On a hill, steep and it tears my ankles up everytime I do it.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:39 pm | #

Tonight my mother saw something on European television about our dear reverend Phelps and something else about the Bible police: police officers who refuse to obey anything but what they see as the Biblical law.
Have you heard of this? My mother thinks that I'll be in a burqa before very long...
Echidne of the snakes

That's so scary it needed to be repeated wholesale.

Somebody send this to Margaret Atwood. ...

Pharmacists who withhold or refused to dispense legitimate medicines on authentic prescriptions need to lose their licenses. No question. One strike and you're out.

Cops who refuse to enforce any but explicitly biblical laws, or who enforce biblical laws not enshrined in civil law, should be disarmed, fired, and imprisoned. No question. One strike and you're out.
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | 01.01.05 - 8:39 pm | #

The first 4 feet of your front yard is government property.

Depends. It could be more or it could be less or none.
____league | 01.01.05 - 8:40 pm | #

You see, all the Big Boards shut down or shut us out because they couldn't handle our critisisms of them and their owners. We couldn't help it, trying to get those bastards to debate their delivery of "facts" and "news" (oh, how I argued with the NYT that their news was really OLDS and often they recycle the same stories a dozen times in a decade, thanks to Google, I could prove my point, irritating them no end!)

Now we hang out in Bloggerland where we try to push events from the distant horizons. The media needs us. They just don't want us.

Fuck them.
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 8:40 pm | #

If MOTY was really about who was "most influential", they would have made OBL the MOTY in 2001.

That's one time I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall at Time's Editorial Board meeting (where, if I understand correctly, they discuss the merits of different candidates but the final decision is solely that of the publisher).

Yeah, they definitely flinched that year.

Wonder why they didn't give it to Rove this year... picking Bush over him is like picking Lamb Chop over Shari Lewis.
SteveLG | 01.01.05 - 8:41 pm | #

I have long since given up all hope of Bush's internal monologue extending much beyond, "I got mine."

Well, it is kind of a forlorn hope, isn't it? I'm also hoping that the country regains its senses and tosses the Bush crowd out in the 2008 elections.

I'm also hoping that there will be elections in 2008.
f | 01.01.05 - 8:41 pm | #

SteveLG -Sheesh, LOL!
spinoza | 01.01.05 - 8:42 pm | #

"Cops who refuse to enforce any but explicitly biblical laws"

They are sworn in. Refusal to uphold a legally made law is breaking the faith with the people they are sworn to protect.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:42 pm | #

OT: Don't believe the initial $15 million aid offer. Per this SF Chronicle article, the initial offer was four million.

http://tinyurl.com/6k6zv
Mike | 01.01.05 - 8:43 pm | #

I don't think George's cock has ever been firmly wedged anywhere--hence all these wars.
Matt Davis | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:43 pm | #

i will not be reading that particular issue of time, or any other in the future!
pheeewwwww! fuck 'em.

by any measure, bush's 1st term was an unqualified disaster.
dan hoppe | 01.01.05 - 8:43 pm | #

by any measure, bush's 1st term was an unqualified disaster.

Except for the most important one, unfortunately.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:44 pm | #

I enjoy scratching my unwiped anus and sniffing my finger.
Old Hat | 01.01.05 - 8:45 pm | #

RAZZLE!!!!
n69n | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:45 pm | #

Echidne otS,

I can't remember where I read the story -- may have been on Buzzflash -- but there was a story about a judge refusing to grant a divorce because the woman was pregnant. The kicker was that her husband had been in jail for a few years and the child wasn't even his. The woman's lawyer was thunderstruck by the decision, which he says has no basis in law. In support of his decision, IIRC, the judge said he was trying to keep families together and didn't want to "bastardize" the child.

What a fuckhead...
Toonscribe | 01.01.05 - 8:46 pm | #

by any measure, bush's 1st term was an unqualified disaster.

Not if your measures included making the rich richer and the poor poorer, screwing up government finances so you can kill the rest of the programs you don't like and proving that anybody with enough military power can be a bully.
____league | 01.01.05 - 8:46 pm | #

FUNKSPIEL!!!!
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:47 pm | #

Elaine Supkis

well done, ms supkis!
n69n | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:48 pm | #

SteveLG,

Last night we were discussing the OBL as the true MOTY by asswipe Times' *standards*. If they had any balls, they would have done it.

Hahahaha. Ok, back to reality now.
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 8:50 pm | #

Stranger ... What event precipitated the shut-down of the CNN boards? You mentioned that there was a lot of liberal criticism of Bush that the wingnuts could not keep up with. Was there a specific Bush fuck-up at that point, or just the generalized daily disgust?
Res Ipsa Loquitor | 01.01.05 - 8:51 pm | #

OT: Don't believe the initial $15 million aid offer. Per this SF Chronicle article, the initial offer was four million.

And now we're up to $350 million, which per capita is what, $9.20 a person? We probably spend more than that at Starbucks per week, per capita.

Japan, meanwhile, has ponied up $500 million. Wonder what that is, per capita for the Japanese?

Wonder if Bush feels slighted again?
Robert M. Jeffers | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:54 pm | #

RMJ-Isn't $350 million a little more than a dollar for each US citizen?
spinoza | 01.01.05 - 8:55 pm | #

Faced with criticism in its selection of Bush as Person of the Year, Time has gone out of its way to excuse that choice on the ground that they also selected both Hitler and Stalin. Here, they say, the choice is all about a person's impact on events of the day, nothing more.

But then, having chosen Bush, they act as though it would be untoward of them even to quote a single critic, much less present a portrait of Bush that acknowledged how and why, exactly, he is so widely loathed. Here, being selected Person of the Year is all about one's admirable and important attributes, nothing more.

Could Time be more of a hypocritical shill?
frankly0 | 01.01.05 - 8:56 pm | #

Wonder if Bush feels slighted again?
Robert M. Jeffers

How much would we love to see Bush get into this dick-waving contest?
NYMary | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 8:56 pm | #

I remember those CNN boards from long ago. The slightest thing you typed that the wingnuttery disliked would earn you a sharp rebuke from the webmaster. Kind of a "watch what you say, watch what you do" kind of thing.

Yet the howling lunatic wingers would post crazy stuff that made your skin crawl.
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 8:58 pm | #

We were making fun of AWOL Bush. His military "record" (sic)
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 8:59 pm | #

Re:
Time's POTY, Sullivan, the 'media" and those who love them, as to their love of "professionals" and distrust of lowly bloggers --

Remember, the Titanic was built by a large group of professionals and the Ark by a lone Amateur.

Just for curiosity's sake, which one would you rather be on?
Morris the cat | 01.01.05 - 9:00 pm | #

Wonder if Bush feels slighted again?

I ::heart:: the way Bush & Co. purports to be "leading an international coalition" in support of the tsunami relief efforts.

"Slow the fuck down... I gotta lead you bastards."

I do not ::heart:: the way certain segments of the media are acting as if Bush really is somehow leading this thing.
SteveLG | 01.01.05 - 9:01 pm | #

Hmm... a lone amateur, advised personally by God...
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:02 pm | #

Elaine Supkis on TT. Them was the days.
The Sebastian Cat | 01.01.05 - 9:03 pm | #

Res,

It was the Daily Disgust (there's a fantasy newspaper name for ya!), plus it was shortly after 9/11 - and there was a lot of anguish on both sides in its aftermath.

As I remember it, there was a lot of criticism of Bush at the time - remember, his approval was quite anemic prior to 9/11. You could pick any aspect of the administration's policies and there was a valid criticism. But in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, the bull goose wingnuts on the CNN boards declared that any criticism of Bush at that point was off-limits.

It pissed people off, and the last day or so was all-out chaos. People were being banned left and right, things kept escalating. Near the end, there were wholesale accusations of treason. Then the boards went dark.

CNN said for a while that they were going to open them up again, but they never did.

It's funny how many people I ended up running into on other fora after that - and a lot of us became bloggers shortly after that. One poster who completely flummoxed the wingers was Ms. Supkis. Another was a woman calling herself 'Tigereye Maru' - who went on to start up the blog 'WTF is it now?'

Ah, memories...
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:03 pm | #

What do you call the last soldier to die for a mistake?"

everybody in a combat zone knows: 'poor, dumb-fuck..'
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | 01.01.05 - 9:05 pm | #

Here's the great thing about Bush and tsunami. Now, no matter what he does, it's too little, too late and seen as him trying to keep up, rather than as genuine leadership.

Hey, George, that's why real world leaders don't go on vacation all the fucking time.

Asswipe.
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 9:05 pm | #

Hmm... a lone amateur, advised personally by God...

The Bible does not record how many other crackpot D.I.Y. projects, undertaken on the advice of God, were lying around Noah's yard at the time of his construction of the Ark.
SteveLG | 01.01.05 - 9:06 pm | #

Titanic sank but Noah's ark stank.

Heh. Shit ahoy!
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 9:06 pm | #

Anyone with half a functioning brain on both the right and the left are embarrassed that Shrub is held up to be the best our nation can come up with out of 300 million citizens.

Even Poppy knows that his oldest son is a dolt.

It's just that the right has too much to lose by admitting as much.
Wildebeest | 01.01.05 - 9:07 pm | #

We were making fun of AWOL Bush. His military "record" (sic)

That's right! Marty Heldt was a regular on those boards. The wingers hated the fact that he got the information he ended up with.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:07 pm | #

Just for curiosity's sake, which one would you rather be on?
Morris the cat

Which ocean are we talking about here, morris? The Titanic in the Med or the Black Sea, or thereabouts, would still be afloat today...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | 01.01.05 - 9:07 pm | #

Bush discontinued a minor portion of a Rumsfailed fighter project to get this cash. Don't make him have to choose which contributor to bilk for the short term...

Less than ten bucks a person per capita? Bush is not representing America very well. Demand there be full fledged audits of this money. No doubt since it's "foreign aid" and Arthur Andersen can not operate in the United States, bush is simply laundering more Enron enablers as they rebuild a puppet Bushco regime.

Hope they aren't providing flight training to any Muslim Indonesians as part of the relief efforts...
Mr.Murder | 01.01.05 - 9:07 pm | #

Elaine Supkis on TT. Them was the days.
The Sebastian Cat | 01.01.05 - 9:07 pm | #

Here's the great thing about Bush and tsunami. Now, no matter what he does, it's too little, too late and seen as him trying to keep up, rather than as genuine leadership.

Maybe when it's all over, when all the bodies are cleaned up and all the crododiles shot dead and there's no longer any risk of disease or death, Bush can go to Sri Lanka and stand on top of some sea wall with a bullhorn and give a speech.

Surely after that the media will proclaim him a great hero who showed "steely resolve".
SWR | 01.01.05 - 9:08 pm | #

Stranger ... Thanks. I'm sorry I missed that. Having read a fair amount of Ms. Supkis' comments here it must have been very satisfying to see her flummox those cretins.
Res Ipsa Loquitor | 01.01.05 - 9:09 pm | #

Titanic sank but Noah's ark stank.

Heh. Shit ahoy!
Elaine Supkis

you rock, elaine...back in the days of wooden ships and iron men, there were cases of warships following the trails of adversaries across hundreds of miles of ocean by the trail of excrementa and other waste that went overboard...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | 01.01.05 - 9:10 pm | #

I love Taibbi.

In other news, I just watched a freaking great football game.

It was a nice change from thinking about our fucked up country.

Hecate, great idea about the produce stickers. Fucking GREAT IDEA!!
fourlegsgood | 01.01.05 - 9:11 pm | #

I am not old enough (thank god) to remember the Stalin or Hitler MOTY, but ever since Time named Allahtollah Khomeini MOTY, I have not so much as picked up that rag in a doctor's office. The are howling, self-important clowns.
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 9:11 pm | #

I'm sorry I missed that. Having read a fair amount of Ms. Supkis' comments here it must have been very satisfying to see her flummox those cretins.

You're tellin' me - I had a cyber-crush on her brain for a long time there.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:12 pm | #

In other news, I just watched a freaking great football game.

Michigan / Texas in the Rose Bowl? Great fucking game...
OU beat Texas pretty convincingly.
USC's power running guy's dinged up.

just sayin
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | 01.01.05 - 9:14 pm | #

Yeah CNN started banning people first. It was kind of difficult to drop names there and see your post erased at drive time.

They could not contain the info, enough people got hold of the business names and were able to connect dots.

We'll reclaim the airwaves. It gets worse as well. There is no turning back to true Democracy.

Karma is going to take back what they've stolen in due time, every bit as bloody as well.
Mr.Murder | 01.01.05 - 9:15 pm | #

Wood Man,

You are a font of knowledge, my friend. Peace out, woadie. Hope you had a good NYE and day?
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 9:16 pm | #

The GOP trail of shit is damn easy to follow. The problem is getting bogged down in it.
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 9:17 pm | #

since Time named Allahtollah Khomeini MOTY, I have not so much as picked up that rag in a doctor's office. The are howling, self-important clowns.
bigvic

In some ways the similarities between Bush and Khomeni, their agendas, and their bases, are uncanny. Fundamentalism is pretty much interchangeable within discourses, nicht wahr?
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | 01.01.05 - 9:17 pm | #

Here's the great thing about Bush and tsunami. Now, no matter what he does, it's too little, too late and seen as him trying to keep up, rather than as genuine leadership.

I don't see what's so great about that. Wouldn't you rather have seen him surprise the shit out of all of us and do the right thing? That no doubt would have been the preference of several million Asians.
theodoric | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:18 pm | #

Bush discontinued a minor portion of a Rumsfailed fighter project to get this cash. Don't make him have to choose which contributor to bilk for the short term...

I wouldn't be surprised if there are additional strings attached to the money. $15 million cash, $335 million "line of credit"? $335 million worth of Wal*Mart coupons?

President Bush. Anal Fissure of the Year.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:18 pm | #

he GOP trail of shit is damn easy to follow.

Ai-yah! The GOP Skid Mark!
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:19 pm | #

just sayin
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar

What's your point? it was a good football game. I'm not saying I give a fuck about who won, just that it was entertaining.

And chimpy still sucks ass. Just saying.
fourlegsgood | 01.01.05 - 9:19 pm | #

Wouldn't you rather have seen him surprise the shit out of all of us and do the right thing?

To tell you the truth, Theodoric, I would have fallen down dead.

The last thing I've come to expect Bush to do is the right thing, unfortunately.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:19 pm | #

President Bush. Anal Fissure of the Year.

The Fissure King, even.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:20 pm | #

and all the crododiles shot dead

Bushie better hope they're all dead. Once one gets a taste of him, it's unlikely to swallow a clock, a la Captain Hook's crocodile.

Now, if people can't make any number of puns from that, I don't know Eschatonians like I think I do.
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 9:21 pm | #

Wouldn't you rather have seen him surprise the shit out of all of us and do the right thing?

I think we'd have a better chance of seeing mars turning day-glo green.

And of quidditch becoming the national sport.
fourlegsgood | 01.01.05 - 9:21 pm | #

what would you expect from T-L.

hank luce was the founder and he was a boner.

a boner's pr job for a fellow boner. that was what that article was.

i receive a complimentary sub to that rag. upon receiving it, i tossed that issue and instructed T-L to discontinue any futher deliveries.

a want reality. not fiction.
albertchampion | 01.01.05 - 9:21 pm | #

In other news, I just watched a freaking great football game.

It was a good game. A good lead-in for the long-anticipated, tradition-rich clash between Utah and Pittsburgh in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.
Thersites | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:21 pm | #

Maybe when it's all over, when all the bodies are cleaned up and all the crododiles shot dead and there's no longer any risk of disease or death, Bush can go to Sri Lanka and stand on top of some sea wall with a bullhorn and give a speech.

And the media will admire his great leadership and eloquence. Aww hell, they'll give him MOTY.
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 9:21 pm | #

Eli,

Terry Gilliam wants his movie back.

That was just on the other night, btw. What a freaky little film that was.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:21 pm | #

The last thing I've come to expect Bush to do is the right thing, unfortunately.

Agreed. The best we can hope for is that abject failure to do the right thing will occasionally not get spun as heroic, steely leadership.

Alas, it seems even this is beyond the realm of the possible.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:22 pm | #

Bushie better hope they're all dead. Once one gets a taste of him, it's unlikely to swallow a clock, a la Captain Hook's crocodile.

I think even crocodiles are pickier than that.
fourlegsgood | 01.01.05 - 9:23 pm | #

Christmas disappointment, 2004 edition.

Nobody knitted me a ski mask.

Fingers crossed for next year!
SteveNS | 01.01.05 - 9:23 pm | #

as well as the stirring insight that Bush loves liberty even more than his aides do.
I bet he does. War Criminals should be incarcerated!
oldwhitelady | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:23 pm | #

my favorite part of casablanca-dueling patriotic songs!
waiting | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:23 pm | #

Atrios's phallic obsession continues...
ether | 01.01.05 - 9:23 pm | #

by any measure, bush's 1st term was an unqualified disaster.

And you fuckwads are so impotent you couldn't even take advantage of it. Silly, silly people.
laughing | 01.01.05 - 9:24 pm | #

Now, if people can't make any number of puns from that, I don't know Eschatonians like I think I do.

I'm assuming your looking for clock-sucker puns and not clockodile puns, right?
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:24 pm | #

The Fissure King, even.

Eli, there's a circle of hell for you.
NYMary | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:24 pm | #

Yo, the troll bus just pulled up. Somebody start a new thread.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:25 pm | #

Fundamentalism is pretty much interchangeable within discourses, nicht wahr?

Nicht wahr. You'd think they'd recognize one another.
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 9:25 pm | #

And the media will admire his great leadership and eloquence. Aww hell, they'll give him MOTY.

Moty-Dick.
Thersites | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:25 pm | #

nah, ignore it, stranger.

Watertiger, how do you like the brave new world of the cable modem?
NYMary | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:26 pm | #

What if Duncan Black and his angry bunch of whiny, bitchy, socially awkward followers kept bitching and moaning about well...everything, and nobody cared?

Your post claiming there is a hidden racial issue out of the press focusing on the European victims of the tsunami is quite telling. Most people with common sense are aware that most Europeans are...white and thus a story about the European victims of the hurricane are thus naturally going to gravitate towards victims who happen to be...white. But to Duncan and his band of dumb-fuck liberals, this is racism, pure and simple.

You guys are really out there, I gotta tell you. It's sad you don't even know it. I have to admit I sympathize with you somewhat when I think about what it must feel like to live in a country where you are so ostrasized. What if everything you believed in was unrecognizable to just about all of your fellow citizens, including fellow liberals. It must drive you insane. (Of course I would argue you're already there).

PS I hope the regulars here did NOT have a Happy New Year as most of you personally disgust me and frankly, I think you're bad people - this having nothing to do with politics. Anyone with any common decency has long stopped being a regular here. This is just a hate site at this point and nothing more.
Darth Philly G | 01.01.05 - 9:27 pm | #

Hey, George, that's why real world leaders don't go on vacation all the fucking time.

Asswipe.
Hecate

Is Kofi a real world leader? Where was he? Oh, that's right, skiing in Wyoming. Of course, that makes a mockery of your whining, now doesn't it?

Nice try Hecate.

Asswipe.
Hecate's genital wart | 01.01.05 - 9:29 pm | #

Moty-Dick.

Actually, the portrait does make him look like something that washed up on the beach.

Beating Eli to the punch: You mean a used condom?
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:29 pm | #

...Duncan Black and his angry bunch of whiny, bitchy, socially awkward followers...

Mr. Pot, may I present Mr. Kettle?
SteveLG | 01.01.05 - 9:30 pm | #

Darth (heh),

angry bunch of whiny, bitchy, socially awkward followers

And then you call this a 'hate site?'

We were having a good time until you showed up and made the collective IQ of the room plummet.

How's it feel to be able to make the room stupider just by entering it?
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:30 pm | #

PS,

Go tell that fellow socialist bitch of yours Claire Short that she has a lot of nerve calling the UN the "moral standard in the world" in light of the fact it steals billions of dollars from programs (oil for food) designed to alleviate people's suffering under sanctions. In light of the head of the UN's son being directly on the take in said scandal. And in light of UN officials being directly involved in the massive rape of CHILDREN.

In fact, tell Claire to kill herself to make the world a better place.
Darth Philly G | 01.01.05 - 9:30 pm | #

Darth,

I guess you are right, common decency is a bit strained here. Of course we have uncommon decency which is a damned sight better than the common variety.

For the life of me I cannot understand the attraction of going someplace and acting like a spoilt brat is pleasant. But I guess it just shows to go you, doesn't it?
DWD | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:31 pm | #

Watertiger, how do you like the brave new world of the cable modem?

Two words: SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

BTW, got the Milton CD yesterday! Love it! Good call.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:31 pm | #

Baby Jesus loves Darth Philly G.
Central Scrutinizer | 01.01.05 - 9:32 pm | #

anyone read sidney blumenthals column in the 12-30-04 guardian?
he makes it clear that republicans like james baker & brent scowcroft probably think that bush could be named fuckup of the decade.
dan hoppe | 01.01.05 - 9:32 pm | #

Mr. Pot, may I present Mr. Kettle?
SteveLG

Patheticallly, in being addressed as "Mr. Pot", the troll believes he has been mistaken for genocidal dictator Pol Pot, and blushes like a June bride.
SteveNS | 01.01.05 - 9:33 pm | #

Rumor out here in the west is that Harry Reid is opening a coat hanger factory in Seachlight Nevada.
Memento Mori | 01.01.05 - 9:33 pm | #

Darth,

Sorry to disappoint, but I had a great New Years. Rang in the year with friends at a wonderful party; worked in my garden most of the day; dropped by another friend's brunch; stopped off to see my wonderfully successful son and daughter-in-law; then home to cook for tomorrow's brunch with some blog commenting thrown in between. Be careful what you wish for, it tends to rebound to you.
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 9:33 pm | #

angry bunch of whiny, bitchy, socially awkward followers

I may be bitchy and yeah, whiny when I'm tired, but yo, I ain't socially awkward.

And aren't you the fucking milquetoast hiding behind your "badass rapper" handle.

Okay, New Year's Resolution #1, version 2.0: don't feed any more trolls.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:34 pm | #

How's it feel to be able to make the room stupider just by entering it?

DPG could leave here, go over to LGF, and raise the average IQ at both places.

*sigh*

...the old jokes are the best jokes.
SteveLG | 01.01.05 - 9:34 pm | #

Whoops, sounds like the baby needs changing, gotta go...

Oh, wait. Just the Littlest Troll of Them All.

Try some talcum powder, kid. It'll help.
Thersites | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:34 pm | #

"How's it feel to be able to make the room stupider just by entering it?"

If this site is the mark of intelligence, then I wear it as a badge of honor. I'm sure there are some decent people who lurk here but most of you are beneath my contempt at this point.

Artificially discovering racism out of a tsunami relief operation story elaborates the kind of people you are.
Darth Philly G | 01.01.05 - 9:34 pm | #

Check out how the religious right is "helping" the tsunami victims with their political agenda:

ALERT: We've found what is probably the best way to help
victims of last week's killer tsunami -- and it does NOT
involve corrupt organizations like the United Nations.
Please give now:

The official death toll, five days after a quake below the
Indian Ocean sent killer waves up to 30 feet high crashing
ashore without warning in south Asia, now stands at 124,000
people. Five million people are homeless in the region.

But the worst may be yet to come. New reports say that the
death toll in Acheh alone, the region worst hit by last
Sunday's tsunami, may exceed 400,000 as many affected areas
could still not be reached for search and rescue operations.

Aid started to get through to stricken areas, but not always
to the right people amid poor coordination and destruction.
Getting help from regional centers to people cut off in
coastal lands, with obliterated towns, washed-away roads,
scant fuel, barely a boat and debris-clogged harbors, is a
nightmare. Experts are warning that disease could kill many
more, with children most at risk. Diarrhea, cholera and
malaria are among the dangers.

These people -- our fellow human beings -- need our help.

What they do NOT need is the kind of "help" that the United
Nations brings -- but apparently, the United States is
preparing to turn over millions of taxpayer dollars to the
UN and its agencies, supposedly to relieve the immense
suffering of millions of people.

This is OUTRAGEOUS, especially given the latest scandalous
news about the United Nations, including the "oil-for-food"
scandal in which UN officials and their designates received
millions in payoffs, the way the UN oversaw the genocide in
Rwanda, and the way UN officials in the Congo have turned a
"relief effort" there into one giant sex slavery ring.

We don't need to give our money to the UN to help the
tsunami victims. We need to give to an organization that
has people on the ground there NOW -- people with a heart
and passion only to serve... people who are ACCOUNTABLE.

We believe we have just the right organization: the Advancing
Native Missions Organization (ANM). ANM stands behind 3,500
indigenous or native missionaries who are reaching their own
people in more than 60 countries of the world.

Headquartered in Charlottesville, Virginia, the Advancing
Native Missions Organization is an inter-denominational,
evangelical, non-profit missions organization founded in
1992 that serves as a bridge between native missions
organizations and the body of Christ in North America. In
the Asian area alone, they are partnered with over 50 local
ministries, including Indonesia, India and Thailand.

And unlike the United Nations... ANM is actually
*accountable* for all of its funding. THIS is the kind of
organization that can help the tsunami victims --
Erik | 01.01.05 - 9:35 pm | #

fuckup of the decade.

That's aiming one's sights a little low. How about fuckup of the centuries (20th and 21st)?
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:35 pm | #

Darth,

We were having a good time until you showed up and made the collective IQ of the room plummet.

How's it feel to be able to make the room stupider just by entering it?
stranger

Talk about self-parody. Your point has been proven. Touche.
honest eschatonian | 01.01.05 - 9:35 pm | #

Darth Philly on Wry, you ain't home until you come in a door.
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 9:35 pm | #

Actually, the portrait does make him look like something that washed up on the beach.

Beating Eli to the punch: You mean a used condom?

I think I probably would have been more likely to go with something like "squid pro quo"...
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:35 pm | #

NOT the
UN.

So let's show the real soul of America. Let's give from
the heart, where it will do the most good.

TAKE ACTION: As Joseph Farah wrote about the UN at
WorldNetDaily.com, "Giving these predatory monsters our
money and a new relief mission is tantamount to giving them
a new license to rape and pillage people who need love and
compassion."

As long as the UN exists, "it will siphon off vast amounts
of money, manpower and resources that might otherwise
accomplish some good."

No matter what horrors the United Nations perpetrates on
innocent people, there is no accountability, no punishment,
no consequence. That's why it is inevitable that we will
only create new victims of this global monstrosity by
sending more relief money to the UN.

PLEASE, help us get REAL assistance *directly* to the people
who need it most, on the ground in the devastated areas.
Make your best contribution right now to the Advancing
Native Missions Organization:

http://www.adnamis.org/ specialGi...ect_id=70002SUM

NOTE: All gifts given to the Advancing Native Missions
Organization are tax-deductible, which means that your
online donation TODAY -- before the end of 2004 -- can
still be deducted on your 2004 taxes. In addition, ANM
is a member in good standing of the Evangelical Council
for Financial Accountability, and 92.5% of the funds
received by ANM go directly to people on the ground in
the devastated areas. Each year, ANM obtains an independent
audit by a certified public accounting firm. Each group
supported through ANM is researched and verified, and its
financial methods validated. Regular assurances are made
that all gifts given are being used appropriately.

Be sure to send this Alert to EVERYONE you know who wants
to help the victims of the tsunami, and wants to make sure
their donation is actually USED in an accountable way.
Thank you!
Erik | 01.01.05 - 9:36 pm | #

Baby Jesus loves Darth Philly G.

However, Grown-Up Jesus thinks he's an asshole.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:37 pm | #

In the distant past there was a musician named Tim Dawe. He had only one album (that I am aware of) but it was a good one. At least it had one wonderful song, JUNKIE JOHN. In that song it had a line that resonates still, "Junkie John was the sort of person that when he walked into a room, you felt like someone just left." Take a hint, Darth.
DWD | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:37 pm | #

I'm sure there are some decent people who lurk here but most of you are beneath my contempt at this point.

Aww, I'm all broke up over that, Darth (heh).

Another year, and you're still a blooming idiot. Like I give a flying fuck what you 'think.'
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:37 pm | #

Oh, good. At least ANM is "interdenominational." Spreading all sorts of evangelicalism around the world to the suffering brown people who most need it.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:37 pm | #

They want aid given to groups that will convert those ayrabs to good christians.
Erik | 01.01.05 - 9:38 pm | #

NYMary,

Heh, heh. Slow to react, but frankly, the thought of Bu$h's dick waving has me headed for the toilet.

Lordy, gotta soak my brain in bleach at the thought of his mini carrot dick *waving* in a stiff breeze.
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 9:38 pm | #

It was a good game. A good lead-in for the long-anticipated, tradition-rich clash between Utah and Pittsburgh in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl.

So who's gonna win?

And who woke up the trolls? Darth says we're all bad, bad people.

It must hurt to be so delusional.
fourlegsgood | 01.01.05 - 9:38 pm | #

Artificially discovering racism out of a tsunami relief operation story elaborates the kind of people you are.

Elaborates the kind of people we are? Darthy, I don't think that word means what you think it means. Did you maybe get a thesaurus for xmas?
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 9:39 pm | #

I meant muslims.
Erik | 01.01.05 - 9:39 pm | #

"Sorry to disappoint, but I had a great New Years."

Mine was excellent as well, not that you'd care of course. Just visited the site today with the hope that common decency in light of a tsunami would temper this group's anger by now. Should have guessed it wouldn't. After all, you're still an asshole.
Darth Philly G | 01.01.05 - 9:39 pm | #

Patheticallly, in being addressed as "Mr. Pot", the troll believes he has been mistaken for genocidal dictator Pol Pot, and blushes like a June bride.

Looks more like a June bug from here...
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:39 pm | #

New batch of COMMIES, btw.

This is not a blogwhore. It is a merely a subtle blogwink, a charming invitation to taste once more the pleasures of innocent young love in a Paris garden on a sunny May afternoon.
Thersites | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:40 pm | #

Just make that any non-cristians.
Erik | 01.01.05 - 9:40 pm | #

yep, the troll bus is definitely unloading here.
dan hoppe | 01.01.05 - 9:40 pm | #

Darthy,

Well now that you've visited, please don't let the virtual door smack your oversized ass on your way out. See you in 06.
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 9:41 pm | #

Talk about self-parody. Your point has been proven. Touche.

Yeah, compare my 'hateful' comment with Darth (heh) wishing for Clare Short to commit suicide.

Some people have an extremely warped perception of hate, eh?
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:41 pm | #

Artificially discovering racism out of a tsunami relief operation story elaborates the kind of people you are.

Your pathetic use of the english language is an embarrassment to humanity.

Sheesh.

In fact, you're an embarrassment to stupidity.
fourlegsgood | 01.01.05 - 9:42 pm | #

After all, you're still an asshole.

And someone's still having parallel grammatical structure problems.

(or)

And Leon's getting LARGER!
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:43 pm | #

Notice how Erik mocks the "religious right" here:

"Check out how the religious right is "helping" the tsunami victims with their political agenda:"

But conveniently ignores the article that HE posted here:

"This is OUTRAGEOUS, especially given the latest scandalous
news about the United Nations, including the "oil-for-food"
scandal in which UN officials and their designates received
millions in payoffs, the way the UN oversaw the genocide in
Rwanda, and the way UN officials in the Congo have turned a
"relief effort" there into one giant sex slavery ring."

So because they're religious and advocate religion, well fuck em' then. Child rapists are better apparently. Again, quite telling of the people I'm dealing with. You should be ashamed of yourselves, but you have no shame, do you?
Darth Philly G | 01.01.05 - 9:43 pm | #

Once on a time there were three Billy-goats, who were to go up to the hill-side to make themselves fat, and the name of all three was "Gruff."

On the way up was a bridge over a burn they had to cross; and under the bridge lived a great ugly Troll, with eyes as big as saucers, and a nose as long as a poker.

So first of all came the youngest billy-goat Gruff to cross the bridge.

"Trip, trap! trip, trap!" went the bridge.

"WHO'S THAT tripping over my bridge?" roared the Troll.

"Oh, it is only I, the tiniest billy-goat Gruff; and I'm going up to the hill-side to make myself fat," said the billy-goat, with such a small voice.

"Now, I'm coming, to gobble you up," said the Troll.

"Oh, no! pray don't take me. I'm too little, that I am," said the billy-goat; "wait a bit till the second billy-goat Gruff comes, he's much bigger."

"Well, be off with you;" said the Troll.

A little while after came the second billy-goat Gruff to cross the bridge.

"TRIP, TRAP! TRIP, TRAP! TRIP, TRAP!" went the bridge.

"WHO'S THAT tripping over my bridge?" roared the Troll.

"Oh, it's the second billy-goat Gruff, and I'm going up to the hill-side to make myself fat," said the billy-goat, who hadn't such a small voice.

"Now I'm coming to gobble you up," said the Troll.

"Oh, no! don't take me, wait a little till the big billy-goat Gruff comes, he's much bigger."

"Very well! be off with you," said the Troll.

But just then up came the big billy-goat Gruff.

"TRIP, TRAP! TRIP, TRAP! TRIP, TRAP!" went the bridge, for the billy-goat was so heavy that the bridge creaked and groaned under him.

"WHO'S THAT tramping over my bridge?" roared the Troll.

"IT'S I! THE BIG BILLY-GOAT GRUFF," said the billy-goat, who had an ugly hoarse voice of his own.

"Now I'm coming to gobble you up," roared the Troll,

"Well, come along! I've got two spears,

And I'll poke your eyeballs out at your ears;

I've got besides two curling-stones,

And I'll crush you to bits, body and bones."

That was what the big billy-goat said; and so he flew at the Troll, and poked his eyes out with his horns, and crushed him to bits, body and bones, and tossed him out into the burn, and after that he went up to the hill-side. There the billy-goats got so fat they were scarce able to walk home again; and if the fat hasn't fallen off them, why, they're still fat; and so--

"Snip, snap, snout

This tale's told out."
DWD | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:43 pm | #

I have a small penis and no friends.

I am a fraud.
stranger | 01.01.05 - 9:43 pm | #

Here's Sullivan bitching about bloggers needing to stay on the margins where they belong; meanwhile, his "respectable" media company is joyously prancing back and forth along 190 glossy pages with George Bush's cock wedged firmly in its mouth.

Well at least that is better than it being shoved deeply up your ass like it has been since November 2, 2004. Eschaton has become nothing more than a forum of Ned Beattys.
Schwa? | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:43 pm | #

Just visited the site today with the hope, etc etc...

Oh, and must you be going so quickly? What a pity. Do feel free to stop in briefly this time next year, if you must.
SteveLG | 01.01.05 - 9:44 pm | #

Name-stolen at long last!

Congrats on focusing on my penis first, whoever stole my handle. Speaks volumes.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:45 pm | #

So who's gonna win?

Utah. The Big East is a joke.
Thersites | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:45 pm | #

BTW, got the Milton CD yesterday! Love it! Good call.

Thanks! Gotta love a song called "Perfect Breasts" in which the (male) singer announces himself as a a feminist. I really like this band. Philly folks, you have all kinds of chances to see them.
NYMary | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:45 pm | #

You know what's funny? DPG, who spends his life swimming in the bile filled shoals of the conservative cesspool, comes here and tells us that we're filled with hate.

What a maroon!
fourlegsgood | 01.01.05 - 9:46 pm | #

Be sure to send this Alert to EVERYONE you know who wants
to help the victims of the tsunami, and wants to make sure
their donation is actually USED in an accountable way.
Thank you!
Erik | Email | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:36 pm |

If I was a victim of the tsunami, I do think that I would be impressed by rescue workers bringing only Bibles,even if the organization sending the workers used nearly all the donations for that purpose.
____league | 01.01.05 - 9:46 pm | #

you have no shame, do you

Nope, none. Which makes us impossible to control. Which, in turn, drives you and your fellow control freaks batshit. Which makes us laugh at you. Any more questions?
Hecate | 01.01.05 - 9:47 pm | #

Schwa? smiles very self-satisfied as Cheney lurches up behind him with his enormous angry log looking for a parking space.
Wildebeest | 01.01.05 - 9:48 pm | #

Darth Philly,

It must really bother you to live in a city with democratic leadership and a black mayor? Perhaps this is why you come here to voice your frustration because you wouldn't last two minutes talking down on two street(obscure mummers reference) like that. Little bit of advice, move to a red state. Northeast conservative elites don't know how good they have it.
Erik | 01.01.05 - 9:48 pm | #

Thersites,

(wiping away tears of joy) I've never won a Commie before!

I actually awoke this morning thinking of a couple that disproved the theory, but fuck if i can remember who it was. So thank you very much, I'll be keeping this statuette.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:48 pm | #

Which makes us laugh at you.

Ha Ha!

Like so.
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:48 pm | #

Watertiger,

True story. My daughter and I love to cook/bake together (family fuckin' values, man) and yesterday we made Gingerbread for our NYE party. As we were pulling the little men from the oven, she said, "Look at all thoses little brown men!"

Heh. Started a *family* moment*
bigvic | 01.01.05 - 9:49 pm | #

Well at least that is better than it being shoved deeply up your ass like it has been since November 2, 2004.

All the trolli-forms are so busy doing their silly victory dance that they've failed to notice that they're the ones who are really going to get fucked the worst.
fourlegsgood | 01.01.05 - 9:49 pm | #

Congrats, tiger! Can I sit next to you at the awards ceremony?
Eli | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:49 pm | #

I do think that I would be impressed by rescue workers bringing only Bibles,even if the organization sending the workers used nearly all the donations for that purpose.

"Oh good. We needed something to stop the water from seeping in."
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:50 pm | #

I apologize for being on topic, but isn't it odd that Sully writes an anti-blogger article while he himself is a blogger? Or maybe not that odd after all.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:50 pm | #

dpg, your posts crack me up. projection, projection,and projection.
sorry little fella, but it has to be said.
dan hoppe | 01.01.05 - 9:50 pm | #

You are now an ITEM, Stranger! When people have to pretend to be you, you are really a YOU.
Elaine Supkis | 01.01.05 - 9:50 pm | #

So thank you very much, I'll be keeping this statuette.

Was it Homer Simpson who tried to give his Grammy away as a tip to a pizza guy? It was refused, as I recall.
NYMary | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:51 pm | #

Darthy, I don't think that word means what you think it means.

INCONCEIVABLE!
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:52 pm | #

When people have to pretend to be you, you are really a YOU.

Got under somebody's skin, I guess.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:52 pm | #

9:46 should be "I do not think"

(Now watch DPG jump on that)
____league | 01.01.05 - 9:52 pm | #

Socially Awkward? Gee I guess that really stings. It hurts Darth, strikes me to the core of my soul. How did you know? I will never be able to fit in with the BMOCs at LGF and FreeperVille. I will never be able to not hesitate before spinning off some xenophobic BS that sounds a bit to aryan in nature. I will stutter when making jokes about muslims in worn torn countries and regions devastated by mother nature. I will grow pale and cowardly when coming to toss tried and true soldiers into wars that are lies.
You are right, I may not be the coolest and if that is what it takes, I shall always be out of style and out of place.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:53 pm | #

"Another year, and you're still a blooming idiot. Like I give a flying fuck what you 'think.'"

I'm quite content actually. Have no real complaints.

But being a virtual outsider in your own country has surely got a to suck. I mean, I wouldn't know what being a goood socialist in the US feels like today, not being one myself. How does it feel to know that no one gives a shit about what you have to say outside of a website with maybe a few thousand of your socially awkward fellow friends? How does it feel that your ideas are a relic of the 1960s when perhaps you were the "cool kid" in college who laid in front of buses and fucked a lot but now people just look at you funny? I'm curious.

Anyways, if you ever get too down, no need to fret. I hear good ol' Fidel is hiring. He needs some more guards to slap around those nefarious bourgeoisie in prison.
Darth Philly G | 01.01.05 - 9:53 pm | #

____league,

I read it as sarcasm.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:54 pm | #

watertiger,

Well, it was earned! Tomorrow, we will have the final awards conferred. Stay tuned!
Thersites | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:54 pm | #

OT in a big way.
ESPN 2 was running those lists kinds of filler holiday shit today.
They had the 25 biggest sports flops of all time. Dennis Miller on Monday Night Football made it. Which was kind of nice, but they could have been honest enough to include Big Pharma on ESPN's early Sunday football show too.
stencil | 01.01.05 - 9:54 pm | #

Tee hee hee...the old "SHAME" rap from convienant Christian trolls. Don'cha just love 'em? Why you can almost see their square blobby and red-spotched white faces and their too tight polyester shirt collars, can't you?
Gotta get in a little internets action and sum flagellated bi-bull study before they begin a lonely late-night whore hunt. Luck, fellows!
sean | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:55 pm | #

Guess what? The GOP, the Morality Party, wants to make it harder to file ethics complaints against legislators:

http://digbig.com/4cjec
Phoenix Woman | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:55 pm | #

Darth Philly G

Geez can't you at least not sound like some idiot sputing pinko and commie bastard from the 60's? You would think these people would have updated their act.
EkCenTriK | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:56 pm | #

Theresites,

Holy shit, I won a COMMIE!??

TTBOMK, this is the first time I've ever won ANYTHING! (Well, except for that patriotic composition in 5th grade, and that $10 lottery ticket that time....)
Central Scrutinizer | 01.01.05 - 9:56 pm | #

I'm still waiting for my Commie award.
The Kenosha Kid | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:56 pm | #

Is Kofi a real world leader? Where was he? Oh, that's right, skiing in Wyoming- Darth

Is that you Sen. Coleman?
Paul-no not that one | 01.01.05 - 9:57 pm | #

watertiger,
check metacomments for the "Crossing Delancey" complication....
NYMary | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:57 pm | #

So. who do you have to insult and/or sleep with (as if that wouldn't be the same thing?) to get a COMMIE around here?
Robert M. Jeffers | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:58 pm | #

when perhaps you were the "cool kid" in college who laid in front of buses and fucked a lot

I sense jealousy. By the way, DFG, fucking in front of buses is not all that great. Asphalt and concrete are a little rough for whomever is on the bottom.
____league | 01.01.05 - 9:58 pm | #

Darth! I told you to never go out solo. Always work in two man teams and RTFM.
Charles Johnson | 01.01.05 - 9:59 pm | #

How does it feel to know that no one gives a shit about what you have to say outside of a website with maybe a few thousand of your socially awkward fellow friends?

(Oh, Christ, this is too easy...)

Tell ya what, Skippy. Calling me 'socially awkward' elaborates (HA!) just how spectacularly large void resides inside your skull.

I move easily across social strata. Talk easily before large groups. I got the gift o'gab, baby.

You, on the other hand, come to a hostile environment and start throwing your own feces with the first sentence.

Not too maladjusted, there, Big Scary Darth (heh).

God, you ain't just stupid - you break the world record for stupid.
stranger | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 9:59 pm | #

TKK,

Yeah, but Sully's a conservative blogger. Ergo, his rules don't apply to him.
watertiger | 01.01.05 - 9:59 pm | #

Anyways, it's been fun. Ok, not really. But it has been informative.

The New Year has been great so far. My faith in the good of humanity is running quite high right now in light of the tsunami relief efforts. Of course, you're still a bunch of nihilist assholes. But it's a wash at worst.
Darth Philly G | 01.01.05 - 9:59 pm | #

RMJ,
So. who do you have to insult and/or sleep with (as if that wouldn't be the same thing?) to get a COMMIE around here

well, I don't have one, and I've borne the man children, so there you go....
NYMary | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 10:00 pm | #