I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
liddddddy!
liddddddy!
Check out the latest nonsense from Fox News!
And then there was this one as well.
Enjoy!
Check out the latest nonsense from Fox News!
And then there was this one as well.
Enjoy!
Most probably read about the new torture revelations in the NYT. Hidden in the article is note that A U.S. general admitted he thinks U.S. forces should be tortured.
Most probably read about the new torture revelations in the NYT. Hidden in the article is note that A U.S. general admitted he thinks U.S. forces should be tortured.
Frorth!
Frorth!
Oh, and then there's the fact that Bill O'Reilly was right after all. It seems there really is a War on Christianity, only he got the warriors wrong.
Oh, and then there's the fact that Bill O'Reilly was right after all. It seems there really is a War on Christianity, only he got the warriors wrong.
Bebe:
I heard she resolved to spend 2005 as a celibate.
Bebe:
I heard she resolved to spend 2005 as a celibate.
Read on Democratic Underground. There was huge send off for the Texas National Guard today. Governor "Good Hair" Perry said "you are heeding the call of your creator"
I guess GWB is now the creator.
It makes me sick
Read on Democratic Underground. There was huge send off for the Texas National Guard today. Governor "Good Hair" Perry said "you are heeding the call of your creator"
I guess GWB is now the creator.
It makes me sick
Bebe:
I heard she resolved to spend 2005 as a celibate.
flory
That has to be wrong. Half the republican senators depend on her rim jobs and such.
Bebe:
I heard she resolved to spend 2005 as a celibate.
flory
That has to be wrong. Half the republican senators depend on her rim jobs and such.
Put this at the end of the previous thread, but I believe (He would! Sorry about being so long-winded: it really and truly is an occupational hazard.) that it bears some discussion.
The Danger of Not Understanding
I think Tom’s comment is spot on. The news media sees themselves as part of the government, at least the Republicans in the government. I do not remember them being this acquiescent when the Big Dog was in office. Still, it is a danger than cannot be underestimated. The problem I am perceiving is that instead of being responsible for their failures, the failures are perceived as successes.
When Bush Boy gave Medals of Freedom to the three men who had failed him so miserably, the issue came to the forefront. Instead of criticizing those whose advice has been so wrong, they are praised as American heros. That is not only crazy, it is probably criminal. My fear is that when they finally do admit the truth, the shit will be so deep that it might not be able to be cleared.
Hubris or whatever you want to call it is not a health state of affairs, yet if you removed the administration’s failures, there would be nothing left. Are the people going to wake up at some point and find that their lives have been denigrated forever? I believe that this might be the case, but I fear the opposite. What if the news media will not even report the failure of our government to provide for the people. Where are we then?
Put this at the end of the previous thread, but I believe (He would! Sorry about being so long-winded: it really and truly is an occupational hazard.) that it bears some discussion.
The Danger of Not Understanding
I think Tom’s comment is spot on. The news media sees themselves as part of the government, at least the Republicans in the government. I do not remember them being this acquiescent when the Big Dog was in office. Still, it is a danger than cannot be underestimated. The problem I am perceiving is that instead of being responsible for their failures, the failures are perceived as successes.
When Bush Boy gave Medals of Freedom to the three men who had failed him so miserably, the issue came to the forefront. Instead of criticizing those whose advice has been so wrong, they are praised as American heros. That is not only crazy, it is probably criminal. My fear is that when they finally do admit the truth, the shit will be so deep that it might not be able to be cleared.
Hubris or whatever you want to call it is not a health state of affairs, yet if you removed the administration’s failures, there would be nothing left. Are the people going to wake up at some point and find that their lives have been denigrated forever? I believe that this might be the case, but I fear the opposite. What if the news media will not even report the failure of our government to provide for the people. Where are we then?
I guess GWB is now the creator.
Well, sure. Didn't you read the Suskind article?
I guess GWB is now the creator.
Well, sure. Didn't you read the Suskind article?
I know it's bad form to use caps, but...
ANDREW SULLIVAN IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
EVIl IDIOTS ALIVE.
I know it's bad form to use caps, but...
ANDREW SULLIVAN IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST
EVIl IDIOTS ALIVE.
Now, up2date, all good fundies know that pacifists and conscientious objectors are by definition godless commies - so this couldn't possibly be considered an attack on a 'good' Christian.
Now, up2date, all good fundies know that pacifists and conscientious objectors are by definition godless commies - so this couldn't possibly be considered an attack on a 'good' Christian.
Liddy's New Year's resolution is to change her name to Ebeneezer Splooge.
Liddy's New Year's resolution is to change her name to Ebeneezer Splooge.
That has to be wrong. Half the republican senators depend on her rim jobs and such.
Maybe they all better get more friendly with Santorum, eh?
That has to be wrong. Half the republican senators depend on her rim jobs and such.
Maybe they all better get more friendly with Santorum, eh?
Unfortunately, flory is right on the money.
The thing about the Fundie shitheads is that they ignore the first four books of the New Testament as much as they can.
Unfortunately, flory is right on the money.
The thing about the Fundie shitheads is that they ignore the first four books of the New Testament as much as they can.
flory, I apologize. I should have remembered the difference between good and bad Christians.
flory, I apologize. I should have remembered the difference between good and bad Christians.
The thing about the Fundie shitheads is that they ignore the first four books of the New Testament as much as they can.
Jews killed Jesus! The Rapture!
Uhh... Lake of fire?
The thing about the Fundie shitheads is that they ignore the first four books of the New Testament as much as they can.
Jews killed Jesus! The Rapture!
Uhh... Lake of fire?
The thing about the Fundie shitheads is that they ignore the first four books of the New Testament as much as they can.
The've been replaced with the books of "Huey, Dewey, Louie, and Peter Conttontail."
The thing about the Fundie shitheads is that they ignore the first four books of the New Testament as much as they can.
The've been replaced with the books of "Huey, Dewey, Louie, and Peter Conttontail."
Stranger:
You here?
Reason I ask is, some time yesterday
you posted a link for a mushed up sound
file where you dropped a Charlie
Louvin vocal onto a Nirvana track.
I lost the link and I'm dying to hear
it....please repost!!!!!
Stranger:
You here?
Reason I ask is, some time yesterday
you posted a link for a mushed up sound
file where you dropped a Charlie
Louvin vocal onto a Nirvana track.
I lost the link and I'm dying to hear
it....please repost!!!!!
The thing about the Fundie shitheads is that they ignore the first four books of the New Testament as much as they can.
As well as the inconvenient bits of the rest of it.
The thing about the Fundie shitheads is that they ignore the first four books of the New Testament as much as they can.
As well as the inconvenient bits of the rest of it.
I am the Creator and the Destroyer.
I am the Uniter and the Divider.
I am the Alpha and the Omega.
Pull my finger. heh.
I am the Creator and the Destroyer.
I am the Uniter and the Divider.
I am the Alpha and the Omega.
Pull my finger. heh.
Jews killed Jesus! The Rapture!
Uhh... Lake of fire?
Don't forget the all-you-can-eat Tuesdays at Red Lobster.
Jews killed Jesus! The Rapture!
Uhh... Lake of fire?
Don't forget the all-you-can-eat Tuesdays at Red Lobster.
Up2date:
Understandable - last night was New Years Eve.
Up2date:
Understandable - last night was New Years Eve.
Don't forget the all-you-can-eat Tuesdays at Red Lobster.
Mmm... All-you-can-eat Crabture...
Don't forget the all-you-can-eat Tuesdays at Red Lobster.
Mmm... All-you-can-eat Crabture...
Watertiger:
The gospel according to Huey? Got any excerpts for us?
Watertiger:
The gospel according to Huey? Got any excerpts for us?
Pull my finger. heh.
ROTFL!
Can I steal that one?
Pull my finger. heh.
ROTFL!
Can I steal that one?
BTW:
If I go to sleep and offline and
Stranger shows up here, could
somebody forward this to him?
I'd be your best friend.
Stranger:
You here?
Reason I ask is, some time yesterday
you posted a link for a mushed up sound
file where you dropped a Charlie
Louvin vocal onto a Nirvana track.
I lost the link and I'm dying to hear
it....please repost!!!!!
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 11:06 pm | #
BTW:
If I go to sleep and offline and
Stranger shows up here, could
somebody forward this to him?
I'd be your best friend.
Stranger:
You here?
Reason I ask is, some time yesterday
you posted a link for a mushed up sound
file where you dropped a Charlie
Louvin vocal onto a Nirvana track.
I lost the link and I'm dying to hear
it....please repost!!!!!
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 01.01.05 - 11:06 pm | #
Have fun.
-Atrios
You're not the boss of me.
Why do you hate us for our freedom to be whiny and miserable???
Have fun.
-Atrios
You're not the boss of me.
Why do you hate us for our freedom to be whiny and miserable???
From the LA Times article (http://tinyurl.com/6j54f) about Justice Thomas accepting more gifts than any of the other SCJ's
"Soon afterward, Crow invited Thomas to a family campground in East Texas. Roger Connor, a businessman who was at the camp-out, remembers the all-male gathering.
"They were all smoking cigars. It was a very manly Texas thing," Connor said. He said the participants slept in sleeping bags and tents, and that the activities included a greased pig race."
Who had to squeal?
From the LA Times article (http://tinyurl.com/6j54f) about Justice Thomas accepting more gifts than any of the other SCJ's
"Soon afterward, Crow invited Thomas to a family campground in East Texas. Roger Connor, a businessman who was at the camp-out, remembers the all-male gathering.
"They were all smoking cigars. It was a very manly Texas thing," Connor said. He said the participants slept in sleeping bags and tents, and that the activities included a greased pig race."
Who had to squeal?
Read on Democratic Underground. There was huge send off for the Texas National Guard today. Governor "Good Hair" Perry said "you are heeding the call of your creator"
I guess GWB is now the creator.
Yes indeed he is - the creator of the greatest debacle in American foreign policy since Vietnam which will probably end up completely destablizing one of the most volatile regions in the world.
Read on Democratic Underground. There was huge send off for the Texas National Guard today. Governor "Good Hair" Perry said "you are heeding the call of your creator"
I guess GWB is now the creator.
Yes indeed he is - the creator of the greatest debacle in American foreign policy since Vietnam which will probably end up completely destablizing one of the most volatile regions in the world.
Signing off for a bit.
Happy New Year all....again.
Signing off for a bit.
Happy New Year all....again.
Link
Seen at W's PERSONAL Christmas Party
"Also spotted, petition gatherer to the stars Nathan Sproul. Bush, it seems, doesn't have much of a problem with the allegations in several states that Sproul's employees misrepresented themselves as nonpartisan during a Republican National Committee voter registration drive and were accused of tossing out registrations from Democrats."
Link
Seen at W's PERSONAL Christmas Party
"Also spotted, petition gatherer to the stars Nathan Sproul. Bush, it seems, doesn't have much of a problem with the allegations in several states that Sproul's employees misrepresented themselves as nonpartisan during a Republican National Committee voter registration drive and were accused of tossing out registrations from Democrats."
Don't forget the all-you-can-eat Tuesdays at Red Lobster.
Mmm... All-you-can-eat Crabture...
Eli
And don't forget the "Lobsterita".
You don't suppose Jesus would want to take Red Lobster back with him in the Rapture, would you?
Don't forget the all-you-can-eat Tuesdays at Red Lobster.
Mmm... All-you-can-eat Crabture...
Eli
And don't forget the "Lobsterita".
You don't suppose Jesus would want to take Red Lobster back with him in the Rapture, would you?
def:
ARe you surprised? Sproul's prolly on next years list for Medal of Freedom.
def:
ARe you surprised? Sproul's prolly on next years list for Medal of Freedom.
The gospel according to Huey?
And Jesus sayeth unto Huey, how is it that you and your waterfowl brethren came unto your manner of dress? And Huey answered, 'Yea, my lord, our maker, your Father, clothed a mouse in short breeches and gauntlets and saw that it was good. And the Lord sayeth unto the people, verily, this is good! May mice dress as men and yea, ducks as seamen.
The gospel according to Huey?
And Jesus sayeth unto Huey, how is it that you and your waterfowl brethren came unto your manner of dress? And Huey answered, 'Yea, my lord, our maker, your Father, clothed a mouse in short breeches and gauntlets and saw that it was good. And the Lord sayeth unto the people, verily, this is good! May mice dress as men and yea, ducks as seamen.
"Soon afterward, Crow invited Thomas to a family campground in East Texas. Roger Connor, a businessman who was at the camp-out, remembers the all-male gathering."
The article goes on to describe how appreciative the partygoers were that Thomas was so efficient in his valet and drink serving duties.
"Soon afterward, Crow invited Thomas to a family campground in East Texas. Roger Connor, a businessman who was at the camp-out, remembers the all-male gathering."
The article goes on to describe how appreciative the partygoers were that Thomas was so efficient in his valet and drink serving duties.
Stinky:
Medium lobster, yes. Red Lobster, no.
Stinky:
Medium lobster, yes. Red Lobster, no.
"They were all smoking cigars. It was a very manly Texas thing," Connor said. He said the participants slept in sleeping bags and tents, and that the activities included a greased pig race."
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
Speaking of the Good Book: I've resolved to read the Bible cover to cover but want to gain an understanding of the history/context/interpretations of what I read...I'm not looking for a Cliff notes version/condensation, but rather a guide through it to help me understand it.
Any good books out there to help the Christianity/Religion-challenged like myself get a better grasp on the book?
"They were all smoking cigars. It was a very manly Texas thing," Connor said. He said the participants slept in sleeping bags and tents, and that the activities included a greased pig race."
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
Speaking of the Good Book: I've resolved to read the Bible cover to cover but want to gain an understanding of the history/context/interpretations of what I read...I'm not looking for a Cliff notes version/condensation, but rather a guide through it to help me understand it.
Any good books out there to help the Christianity/Religion-challenged like myself get a better grasp on the book?
*tip cap to watertiger*
*tip cap to watertiger*
May mice dress as men and yea, ducks as seamen.
{snort}!!! I was finishing off last nights leftover champagne - now its all up my nose.............
May mice dress as men and yea, ducks as seamen.
{snort}!!! I was finishing off last nights leftover champagne - now its all up my nose.............
I saw Greased Pig Race... and Greased Pig Race 2. Greased Pig Race 2 had more pig-on-pig action.
def:
ARe you surprised?
A little. W and Unkle Karl are usaully very careful about keeping folks like Sproul at a deniable arm's length.
Sproul must have photos and wanted payback.... seriously! Why the hell else do you invite someone under investigation to a party with the press present?
I saw Greased Pig Race... and Greased Pig Race 2. Greased Pig Race 2 had more pig-on-pig action.
def:
ARe you surprised?
A little. W and Unkle Karl are usaully very careful about keeping folks like Sproul at a deniable arm's length.
Sproul must have photos and wanted payback.... seriously! Why the hell else do you invite someone under investigation to a party with the press present?
Col Bat Guano, that story has the five essential elements of horror:
* family campground
* all-male gathering
* cigars
* very manly "Texas thing"
* greased pig race
This proves Justice Thomas is an Illuminatus.
Col Bat Guano, that story has the five essential elements of horror:
* family campground
* all-male gathering
* cigars
* very manly "Texas thing"
* greased pig race
This proves Justice Thomas is an Illuminatus.
Why the hell else do you invite someone under investigation to a party with the press present?
Because this crew is firmly convinced their shit doesn't stink? Remember, the laws are mere guidelines for He Who Must Not Be Questioned.
Why the hell else do you invite someone under investigation to a party with the press present?
Because this crew is firmly convinced their shit doesn't stink? Remember, the laws are mere guidelines for He Who Must Not Be Questioned.
watertiger, doth not the gospel say that manna floweth like a river unto a bullion room to serve its master but not thine uncle? For truly no duck may be rich unless he also be a miser and wear spats.
watertiger, doth not the gospel say that manna floweth like a river unto a bullion room to serve its master but not thine uncle? For truly no duck may be rich unless he also be a miser and wear spats.
"* family campground
* all-male gathering
* cigars
* very manly "Texas thing"
* greased pig race
This proves Justice Thomas is an Illuminatus"
Or they were trying to recreate Friday the 13th....without the hot teenage girls of course.
"* family campground
* all-male gathering
* cigars
* very manly "Texas thing"
* greased pig race
This proves Justice Thomas is an Illuminatus"
Or they were trying to recreate Friday the 13th....without the hot teenage girls of course.
Good Lord! Our economic policy is based on the Gospel of Huey. That is depressing.
Good Lord! Our economic policy is based on the Gospel of Huey. That is depressing.
Did you guys know about all the activities leading up to the electoral college vote this week? I found this at Ohio Election Fraud (Formerly "Fairness"):
http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com/
I live 30 miles south of DC, and this is the first I've heard about most of this stuff. But then, before the war started, there was a 100,000 person protest on the National Mall and the local media didn't tell us about it.
Did you guys know about all the activities leading up to the electoral college vote this week? I found this at Ohio Election Fraud (Formerly "Fairness"):
http://fairnessbybeckerman.blogspot.com/
I live 30 miles south of DC, and this is the first I've heard about most of this stuff. But then, before the war started, there was a 100,000 person protest on the National Mall and the local media didn't tell us about it.
May mice dress as men and yea, ducks as seamen.
(chortle)
Which put into mind the Python skit "Men who dress as Mice"
May mice dress as men and yea, ducks as seamen.
(chortle)
Which put into mind the Python skit "Men who dress as Mice"
watertiger, doth not the gospel say that manna floweth like a river unto a bullion room to serve its master but not thine uncle? For truly no duck may be rich unless he also be a miser and wear spats.
This is starting to sound like Woody Allen's "Without Feathers"! And that's a good thing!
watertiger, doth not the gospel say that manna floweth like a river unto a bullion room to serve its master but not thine uncle? For truly no duck may be rich unless he also be a miser and wear spats.
This is starting to sound like Woody Allen's "Without Feathers"! And that's a good thing!
and that the activities included a greased pig race."
Who had to squeal?
Col Bat Guano
Oh, please, let someone have pictures and an Internets connection...
and that the activities included a greased pig race."
Who had to squeal?
Col Bat Guano
Oh, please, let someone have pictures and an Internets connection...
Verily, it is easier for a duck wearing spats to pass thru the eye of a needle than for a mouse to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Verily, it is easier for a duck wearing spats to pass thru the eye of a needle than for a mouse to enter the kingdom of heaven.
May mice dress as men and yea, ducks as seamen.
With white hoods and little wiggly tails?
Or parachutes (since you mentioned Woody Allen)?
May mice dress as men and yea, ducks as seamen.
With white hoods and little wiggly tails?
Or parachutes (since you mentioned Woody Allen)?
Verily, it is easier for a duck wearing spats to pass thru the eye of a needle than for a mouse to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Forsooth, it is better for a mouse to pass through the anus of Strom Thurmond than for a duck in a sailor's uniform to be gazed upon by me.
--Liddy Dole
Verily, it is easier for a duck wearing spats to pass thru the eye of a needle than for a mouse to enter the kingdom of heaven.
Forsooth, it is better for a mouse to pass through the anus of Strom Thurmond than for a duck in a sailor's uniform to be gazed upon by me.
--Liddy Dole
Forsooth, it is better for a mouse to pass through the anus of Strom Thurmond
Thought that was gerbils........
Forsooth, it is better for a mouse to pass through the anus of Strom Thurmond
Thought that was gerbils........
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
*sigh*
It's a Texas thing...
...unfortunately.
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
*sigh*
It's a Texas thing...
...unfortunately.
A U.S. general admitted he thinks U.S. forces should be tortured.
I'm starting to think that there are a few generals who need to be tortured.
A U.S. general admitted he thinks U.S. forces should be tortured.
I'm starting to think that there are a few generals who need to be tortured.
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
A bunch of guys voluntarily out all night seeping in sleeping bags with no women?
THIS is heterosexual?
Ugh. It's not even homosexual either, apparently.
Poor little piggies.
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
A bunch of guys voluntarily out all night seeping in sleeping bags with no women?
THIS is heterosexual?
Ugh. It's not even homosexual either, apparently.
Poor little piggies.
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
Your average gay guy acts straighter than these morons.
Because this crew is firmly convinced their shit doesn't stink?
No, because this crew is firmly (and correctly) convinced that it just doesn't make a fucking bit of difference what they do.
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
Your average gay guy acts straighter than these morons.
Because this crew is firmly convinced their shit doesn't stink?
No, because this crew is firmly (and correctly) convinced that it just doesn't make a fucking bit of difference what they do.
This proves Justice Thomas is an Illuminatus"
Or they were trying to recreate Friday the 13th....without the hot teenage girls of course.
Col Bat Guano
I wonder... where was Tony "Scales" during all this? I mean, he's really into the group sex scene... wait a minute! Could it be?? The GREASED PIG! IT WAS SCALIA!!!
This proves Justice Thomas is an Illuminatus"
Or they were trying to recreate Friday the 13th....without the hot teenage girls of course.
Col Bat Guano
I wonder... where was Tony "Scales" during all this? I mean, he's really into the group sex scene... wait a minute! Could it be?? The GREASED PIG! IT WAS SCALIA!!!
Forsooth, it is better for a mouse to pass through the anus of Strom Thurmond
Thought that was gerbils........
Strom don't care. Give him a rodent, and he'll bunghole for a day.
Forsooth, it is better for a mouse to pass through the anus of Strom Thurmond
Thought that was gerbils........
Strom don't care. Give him a rodent, and he'll bunghole for a day.
Did Simels just sign off again?
I just read the request for the Charlie Louvin remix links, so I'll post 'em anyway, in case he comes back.
I did two remixes: 'Running Back To Nirvana Mix', and the more serious 'Bone-Rattled Mix' (this one's got some slide guitar that I'm kinda proud of).
They're both remixes of a track Charlie did with The Project. The original is here
This is like phone tag. Steve, hope you're still around.
Did Simels just sign off again?
I just read the request for the Charlie Louvin remix links, so I'll post 'em anyway, in case he comes back.
I did two remixes: 'Running Back To Nirvana Mix', and the more serious 'Bone-Rattled Mix' (this one's got some slide guitar that I'm kinda proud of).
They're both remixes of a track Charlie did with The Project. The original is here
This is like phone tag. Steve, hope you're still around.
The GREASED PIG! IT WAS SCALIA!!!
I think it was *all* of them, actually...
The GREASED PIG! IT WAS SCALIA!!!
I think it was *all* of them, actually...
No, because this crew is firmly (and correctly) convinced that it just doesn't make a fucking bit of difference what they do.
And, so far, they're right.
May 2005 be the beginning of the end.
No, because this crew is firmly (and correctly) convinced that it just doesn't make a fucking bit of difference what they do.
And, so far, they're right.
May 2005 be the beginning of the end.
Watertiger:
Are you channeling Bebe?
Watertiger:
Are you channeling Bebe?
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
Your average gay guy acts straighter than these morons.
watertiger quotes herself! Aiee!
Why do these guys have to keep proving to themselves that they're het?
Your average gay guy acts straighter than these morons.
watertiger quotes herself! Aiee!
Watertiger:
Are you channeling Bebe?
She said she just got a gazillion new channels, so I guess that was one of them. And I thought I had the platinum package...
Watertiger:
Are you channeling Bebe?
She said she just got a gazillion new channels, so I guess that was one of them. And I thought I had the platinum package...
flory,
when bebe goes on hiatus, i feel compelled to step in and pick up the slack.
it's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.
flory,
when bebe goes on hiatus, i feel compelled to step in and pick up the slack.
it's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.
Don't be hettin', Thers.
Don't be hettin', Thers.
when bebe goes on hiatus, i feel compelled to step in and pick up the slack.
I hope you're wearing gloves, or at least an inside-out baggie.
when bebe goes on hiatus, i feel compelled to step in and pick up the slack.
I hope you're wearing gloves, or at least an inside-out baggie.
watertiger quotes herself! Aiee!
sorry, was just using the prior post as a reference. 
watertiger quotes herself! Aiee!
sorry, was just using the prior post as a reference.
Eli,
slack is too slippery for gloves. ya gotta use the swiffer.
Eli,
slack is too slippery for gloves. ya gotta use the swiffer.
Water:
Protection - please tell me you're using protection........
Water:
Protection - please tell me you're using protection........
I do declare- nothing gets me more humid than Bob, Strommy and Henry Hyde prancing around in their little sailor suits without the pants..in fact, reading Mallard Fillmore always puts a smile on my face, for the same reason.
I do declare- nothing gets me more humid than Bob, Strommy and Henry Hyde prancing around in their little sailor suits without the pants..in fact, reading Mallard Fillmore always puts a smile on my face, for the same reason.
She said she just got a gazillion new channels, so I guess that was one of them.
and still, nothing on but shit. whatever did happen to James Olson of "Andromeda Strain" fame? I mean, besides "Amityville Horror II"?
She said she just got a gazillion new channels, so I guess that was one of them.
and still, nothing on but shit. whatever did happen to James Olson of "Andromeda Strain" fame? I mean, besides "Amityville Horror II"?
I stand corrected. "Amityville in 3D" is now on.
I stand corrected. "Amityville in 3D" is now on.
I stand corrected. "Amityville in 3D" is now on.
Woohoo! Do not pass up Amtiyville Dollhouse, if you get the chance!
I stand corrected. "Amityville in 3D" is now on.
Woohoo! Do not pass up Amtiyville Dollhouse, if you get the chance!
sorry, was just using the prior post as a reference.
Sorry, this shocking breach of comments etiquette has given me the vapors. Ahh! I faint! Someonr bring me a cool wet towel for my, er, manly brow!
sorry, was just using the prior post as a reference.
Sorry, this shocking breach of comments etiquette has given me the vapors. Ahh! I faint! Someonr bring me a cool wet towel for my, er, manly brow!
More on Liddy; check out the URL in Homepage
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You folks are a hoot.
Ya know what I really want to hear about? (like you care) This is NYD and surely somebody had a bad New Year's Eve moment.
Hangover stories, no show cab drivers to exit the drunks from your house. Champaign dreams, etc.
I want stats.
You folks are a hoot.
Ya know what I really want to hear about? (like you care) This is NYD and surely somebody had a bad New Year's Eve moment.
Hangover stories, no show cab drivers to exit the drunks from your house. Champaign dreams, etc.
I want stats.
Hold up. It's the "gremlins" episode of the Twilight Zone with Billy Shatner.
Hold up. It's the "gremlins" episode of the Twilight Zone with Billy Shatner.
Thers?
I believe Sen. Mrs. Sen Dole has some smellin' salts for ya'll.
Thers?
I believe Sen. Mrs. Sen Dole has some smellin' salts for ya'll.
Hey, for $50,000, you can get yer kitty cloned! What's next? Will some enterprizing Mad Scientist obtain a bunch of Hollywood DNA samples and start offering StarClones™ of the Past & Present?
But what if something goes wrong? What if the samples get mixed up? An unsuspecting customer would end up with...
Woody Allen Funt!
There's gotta be a million of those, but that's the only one I can think of.
Hey, for $50,000, you can get yer kitty cloned! What's next? Will some enterprizing Mad Scientist obtain a bunch of Hollywood DNA samples and start offering StarClones™ of the Past & Present?
But what if something goes wrong? What if the samples get mixed up? An unsuspecting customer would end up with...
Woody Allen Funt!
There's gotta be a million of those, but that's the only one I can think of.
Heh. Amityville Horror.
When I was signed to Warner's and we were writing songs for the record, the label flew a guy in from Arkansas to write songs with us. Upon getting smashed, we asked him what NY landmark he'd like to see. He said he wanted to see the Amityville Horror house.
We tried telling him that it was only a house, but he insisted. Weird.
Heh. Amityville Horror.
When I was signed to Warner's and we were writing songs for the record, the label flew a guy in from Arkansas to write songs with us. Upon getting smashed, we asked him what NY landmark he'd like to see. He said he wanted to see the Amityville Horror house.
We tried telling him that it was only a house, but he insisted. Weird.
watertiger, you'll have a tough time toppin bebe's Teriary-period sex organ comment. I'm still laughin.
watertiger, you'll have a tough time toppin bebe's Teriary-period sex organ comment. I'm still laughin.
Sorry, this shocking breach of comments etiquette has given me the vapors.
I'm so ashamed.
not.
Sorry, this shocking breach of comments etiquette has given me the vapors.
I'm so ashamed.
not.
thats tertiary. sorry
thats tertiary. sorry
What is a Pitt?
What is a Pitt?
Is that like a small grit?
Is that like a small grit?
What is a Pitt?
OOoo.I know.
I'll take Brads for a thousand,Alex?
What is a Pitt?
OOoo.I know.
I'll take Brads for a thousand,Alex?
Shhhhh
Bebe's back. Don't let him know what Water's been up to...
Shhhhh
Bebe's back. Don't let him know what Water's been up to...
But what if something goes wrong? What if the samples get mixed up? An unsuspecting customer would end up with...
Woody Allen Funt!
There's gotta be a million of those, but that's the only one I can think of.
A friend of mine had a really good baseball one, but you have to be enough of a fanatic to remember players from the late 80s/early 90s...
*ahem*
Ken Griffey Junior Felix Jose Canseco.
But what if something goes wrong? What if the samples get mixed up? An unsuspecting customer would end up with...
Woody Allen Funt!
There's gotta be a million of those, but that's the only one I can think of.
A friend of mine had a really good baseball one, but you have to be enough of a fanatic to remember players from the late 80s/early 90s...
*ahem*
Ken Griffey Junior Felix Jose Canseco.
bebe,
You seem tuned into the throbbing heart of Liddy and the goings on in DC. We want the dirt.
bebe,
You seem tuned into the throbbing heart of Liddy and the goings on in DC. We want the dirt.
And for the record: yes I was greased- no Miracle Whip for manly Texas men- but I resent being described as a "pig". I'm going to have to get the whip and pay Clarence a visit. mmmmmm...coca colaaaa...
And for the record: yes I was greased- no Miracle Whip for manly Texas men- but I resent being described as a "pig". I'm going to have to get the whip and pay Clarence a visit. mmmmmm...coca colaaaa...
This is NYD and surely somebody had a bad New Year's Eve moment.
bigvic, the only bad New Year's Eve moment I had was, actually, today when I stood with five other adults conversing about what we'd done the night before, and I realized that I had managed to stay up longer than any of them.
I was asleep at 11.45 or thereabouts.
Now, if you want to go back a coupla decades, I could share some truly bad NYE moments. I could, but I won't.
This is NYD and surely somebody had a bad New Year's Eve moment.
bigvic, the only bad New Year's Eve moment I had was, actually, today when I stood with five other adults conversing about what we'd done the night before, and I realized that I had managed to stay up longer than any of them.
I was asleep at 11.45 or thereabouts.
Now, if you want to go back a coupla decades, I could share some truly bad NYE moments. I could, but I won't.
Damn,finally conme up with an appropiate snark response,and nary a snicker.
Damn,finally conme up with an appropiate snark response,and nary a snicker.
smalfish:
Snicker
Snicker.
Peace.
smalfish:
Snicker
Snicker.
Peace.
Alas,the world for a snicker(s bar).
Alas,the world for a snicker(s bar).
And for the record: yes I was greased- no Miracle Whip for manly Texas men- but I resent being described as a "pig".
...an explosion of Bebe wanna be's
And for the record: yes I was greased- no Miracle Whip for manly Texas men- but I resent being described as a "pig".
...an explosion of Bebe wanna be's
You seem tuned into the throbbing heart of Liddy and the goings on in DC. We want the dirt.
bigvic
She has a liver the size of a football. She has a stigmata on her hand that Strom liked to lick. And she can fart Jesu Joy of Man's Desire.
You seem tuned into the throbbing heart of Liddy and the goings on in DC. We want the dirt.
bigvic
She has a liver the size of a football. She has a stigmata on her hand that Strom liked to lick. And she can fart Jesu Joy of Man's Desire.
Bunker,
I had a very staid NYE, unlike most of my guests. I can relate. I was all for beddy-bye at 11:00
Oy. I'm up for past messes, though. Makes me feel virtuous. Heh.
Bunker,
I had a very staid NYE, unlike most of my guests. I can relate. I was all for beddy-bye at 11:00
Oy. I'm up for past messes, though. Makes me feel virtuous. Heh.
Worst NYE moment ever -
I got an invite to the first MTV New Year's Eve party. Elvis Costello, David Johannsen, buncha other acts, open bar...
We hit the open bar, and I threw back a lot of whiskey. We then retired to the crowd to watch Johannsen, and someone in the crowd had a huge joint going. I took two hits and turned into your average teetering on the edge of getting really sick New Year's Eve dork.
My girlfriend realized what was going on and steered me toward the exit. We got to the top of the stairs, where I promptly threw up on some poor girl's feet.
I was out of there and hurling into the gutter by about 10:30. Oh, the shame...
Now that I'm old and wiser and don't get invited to hip parties any more, NYE is largely uneventful.
Worst NYE moment ever -
I got an invite to the first MTV New Year's Eve party. Elvis Costello, David Johannsen, buncha other acts, open bar...
We hit the open bar, and I threw back a lot of whiskey. We then retired to the crowd to watch Johannsen, and someone in the crowd had a huge joint going. I took two hits and turned into your average teetering on the edge of getting really sick New Year's Eve dork.
My girlfriend realized what was going on and steered me toward the exit. We got to the top of the stairs, where I promptly threw up on some poor girl's feet.
I was out of there and hurling into the gutter by about 10:30. Oh, the shame...
Now that I'm old and wiser and don't get invited to hip parties any more, NYE is largely uneventful.
And it was worth a snicker or two smallfish
And it was worth a snicker or two smallfish
Damn,am I in a pissy mood.
Did anyone else catch Bowling for Colombine tonite on one of the movie channels?
It was the first timje I had seen it.How utterly depressing it is to know how long this cultural war has been going on with me being in the dark.I find myself woonderiung how I could be so blind and ignorant,and yes,uncarinig.
The end of the world is neigh upon us,and all I can do is mourn for my own ignorance.
bebe,
You are responsible for changing my adult diaper.
I'm GWB, and I approve of this hilarity.
Damn,am I in a pissy mood.
Did anyone else catch Bowling for Colombine tonite on one of the movie channels?
It was the first timje I had seen it.How utterly depressing it is to know how long this cultural war has been going on with me being in the dark.I find myself woonderiung how I could be so blind and ignorant,and yes,uncarinig.
The end of the world is neigh upon us,and all I can do is mourn for my own ignorance.
bebe,
You are responsible for changing my adult diaper.
I'm GWB, and I approve of this hilarity.
The only NYEs that were even remotely eventful were the ones in mobbed, public NYE-havin' places. Once in Times Square 'cause one of my upstate high school friends had always wanted to do that, and it was awful, and once in Leicester Square or Piccadilly Circus when I was ten. It was a crush, but it was festive and happy.
The only NYEs that were even remotely eventful were the ones in mobbed, public NYE-havin' places. Once in Times Square 'cause one of my upstate high school friends had always wanted to do that, and it was awful, and once in Leicester Square or Piccadilly Circus when I was ten. It was a crush, but it was festive and happy.
Stranger,
Dude! We are off to a good start.
Stranger,
Dude! We are off to a good start.
Does nobody here remember a NYE that they don't remember?
Does nobody here remember a NYE that they don't remember?
Has anybody else seen this site yet? I just found it on the Barenaked Ladies' blog.
http://www.fuckthesouth.com/
Has anybody else seen this site yet? I just found it on the Barenaked Ladies' blog.
http://www.fuckthesouth.com/
Ya know what I really want to hear about? (like you care) This is NYD and surely somebody had a bad New Year's Eve moment.
Not exactly bad, but....came down with a Vicious cold yesterday morning, picked up another couple as per plan and drove them to Madison for a party at a friend's blues bar. They had been going through some bumpy spots, but were enthused about NYE so I couldn't see cancelling. My ears filled up during the night and I couldn't hear half of anything, but the band was fun and my friends were having a great time so I just plastered a grin on my face and nodded at whatever was said to me, and managed to hold on long enough for them to call it quits.
Ya know what I really want to hear about? (like you care) This is NYD and surely somebody had a bad New Year's Eve moment.
Not exactly bad, but....came down with a Vicious cold yesterday morning, picked up another couple as per plan and drove them to Madison for a party at a friend's blues bar. They had been going through some bumpy spots, but were enthused about NYE so I couldn't see cancelling. My ears filled up during the night and I couldn't hear half of anything, but the band was fun and my friends were having a great time so I just plastered a grin on my face and nodded at whatever was said to me, and managed to hold on long enough for them to call it quits.
bigvic -
Glad you enjoyed it. And I'm so happy to have unburdened myself.
I really felt bad for that poor girl. Open-toed shoes, yanno.
bigvic -
Glad you enjoyed it. And I'm so happy to have unburdened myself.
I really felt bad for that poor girl. Open-toed shoes, yanno.
Does nobody here remember a NYE that they don't remember?
I played in NYC one NYE, and got so completely poop-faced that I woke up the next morning and couldn't for the life of me figure out how the hell I got home.
Turns out i drove. Skeery.
Does nobody here remember a NYE that they don't remember?
I played in NYC one NYE, and got so completely poop-faced that I woke up the next morning and couldn't for the life of me figure out how the hell I got home.
Turns out i drove. Skeery.
stranger,
BOO-YAH!
stranger,
BOO-YAH!
Stranger:
Been there.
Stranger:
Been there.
First time I got rip-roaring drunk, 3 years ago (age 20). Did shots of rye. Hit on everyone in sight. Cried. Fell over more than once. Promised to dedicate my first book to a guy I don't remember. Hubby still laughs about it. Don't much like rye anymore.
First time I got rip-roaring drunk, 3 years ago (age 20). Did shots of rye. Hit on everyone in sight. Cried. Fell over more than once. Promised to dedicate my first book to a guy I don't remember. Hubby still laughs about it. Don't much like rye anymore.
I am ashamed to admitt this, but one NYE I thought a friend drove me home, only to see my car in the driveway. OY!!!
I am ashamed to admitt this, but one NYE I thought a friend drove me home, only to see my car in the driveway. OY!!!
no, there's only one bebe, the real Boswell to her "Johnson", or Time magazine to her "Bush", I just play at it sometimes...Sen Mrs Sen Dole
I don't have any weird New Year's stories...all my mindbending (and later, stomach wrenching) alcoholic/otherwise moments just happen at things like class reunions.
no, there's only one bebe, the real Boswell to her "Johnson", or Time magazine to her "Bush", I just play at it sometimes...Sen Mrs Sen Dole
I don't have any weird New Year's stories...all my mindbending (and later, stomach wrenching) alcoholic/otherwise moments just happen at things like class reunions.
Eli,
Sweety, you need to go to "normal" parties to get the true flavor of crazy Amurika.
Eli,
Sweety, you need to go to "normal" parties to get the true flavor of crazy Amurika.
Stranger: Also been there.
Woke up parked on the street, in a whole 'nother state than the one I remembered passing out in, one morning. Scared the crap out of me, fortunately.
Stranger: Also been there.
Woke up parked on the street, in a whole 'nother state than the one I remembered passing out in, one morning. Scared the crap out of me, fortunately.
bigvic -
Shame for shame. Good trade. 
Charlotte - sounds like a fun night! I can relate - I can't even stand the smell of whiskey any more.
bigvic -
Shame for shame. Good trade.
Charlotte - sounds like a fun night! I can relate - I can't even stand the smell of whiskey any more.
Sweety, you need to go to "normal" parties to get the true flavor of crazy Amurika.
I don't know any normal people.
Thankfully.
Sweety, you need to go to "normal" parties to get the true flavor of crazy Amurika.
I don't know any normal people.
Thankfully.
Besides, I don't drink, so how much trouble could I really get into?
Besides, I don't drink, so how much trouble could I really get into?
Nick,
I don't have any weird New Year's stories...
You just aren't trying hard enough.
Think, man, think!
Nick,
I don't have any weird New Year's stories...
You just aren't trying hard enough.
Think, man, think!
Stranger, for fuck's sake, next time call me and I'll come and pick you up. I understand a lot of stupid drunken behavior. I woke up in the hospital one morning; once during a pretty wild party I kissed my best friend's boyfriend (she was going to dump him anyway, but I didn't know that at the time). I know a guy who woke up naked in a tree. But the thing about getting in the car shitfaced is, the law of karmic payback says you're going to hit some 16-year-old homecoming queen on the first day she got her license, and then, dude, your life is OVER, not to mention hers. You will be the asshole who killed the homecoming queen for the rest of your natural life.
I say this out of love: Do. Not. Drive. Drunk.
A.
Stranger, for fuck's sake, next time call me and I'll come and pick you up. I understand a lot of stupid drunken behavior. I woke up in the hospital one morning; once during a pretty wild party I kissed my best friend's boyfriend (she was going to dump him anyway, but I didn't know that at the time). I know a guy who woke up naked in a tree. But the thing about getting in the car shitfaced is, the law of karmic payback says you're going to hit some 16-year-old homecoming queen on the first day she got her license, and then, dude, your life is OVER, not to mention hers. You will be the asshole who killed the homecoming queen for the rest of your natural life.
I say this out of love: Do. Not. Drive. Drunk.
A.
"Ya know what I really want to hear about? (like you care) This is NYD and surely somebody had a bad New Year's Eve moment."
I tried to match Eli on puns last night/early morn. I failed badly. It must be the worst NYE I have ever had.
"Ya know what I really want to hear about? (like you care) This is NYD and surely somebody had a bad New Year's Eve moment."
I tried to match Eli on puns last night/early morn. I failed badly. It must be the worst NYE I have ever had.
Hm. Just watched Monster, and am now reading up on the real story, and my birthday has come up twice now...
Hm. Just watched Monster, and am now reading up on the real story, and my birthday has come up twice now...
Eli,
Actually, you would have found a safe heaven at the bigvic house. Fully half of our guests don't drink.
The bitch of it was, the non drinkers and moderate drinkers had a sloppy crew on their hands. Oh, the cabs! Oh, the sleepover guests!
Eli,
Actually, you would have found a safe heaven at the bigvic house. Fully half of our guests don't drink.
The bitch of it was, the non drinkers and moderate drinkers had a sloppy crew on their hands. Oh, the cabs! Oh, the sleepover guests!
I tried to match Eli on puns last night/early morn. I failed badly. It must be the worst NYE I have ever had.
You must have had a *lot* of really good NYEs, if that's your low-water mark...
I tried to match Eli on puns last night/early morn. I failed badly. It must be the worst NYE I have ever had.
You must have had a *lot* of really good NYEs, if that's your low-water mark...
Actually, you would have found a safe heaven at the bigvic house. Fully half of our guests don't drink.
The shame of it is, I don't drive *either*.
Actually, you would have found a safe heaven at the bigvic house. Fully half of our guests don't drink.
The shame of it is, I don't drive *either*.
Eli,
You watching the movie Charlise Ther?? (I can't spell) got an academy award for?
Eli,
You watching the movie Charlise Ther?? (I can't spell) got an academy award for?
Athenae,
Thanks for the concern (and I'm not being facetious - I truly appreciate it). But all of these stories are from back when I was living the dopey Rock And Roll Lifestyle.
I wouldn't dare do any of it today. I do know those who weren't as blind lucky as me and had horrible accidents.
I look back at some of this stuff and I'm amazed at two things - how lucky I was, and how much of an asshole I was.
I still rock out, but I limit myself to a few beers nowadays. A lot more boring, but there's nothing sadder than an old man acting like Axl Rose.
Athenae,
Thanks for the concern (and I'm not being facetious - I truly appreciate it). But all of these stories are from back when I was living the dopey Rock And Roll Lifestyle.
I wouldn't dare do any of it today. I do know those who weren't as blind lucky as me and had horrible accidents.
I look back at some of this stuff and I'm amazed at two things - how lucky I was, and how much of an asshole I was.
I still rock out, but I limit myself to a few beers nowadays. A lot more boring, but there's nothing sadder than an old man acting like Axl Rose.
bigvic: one New Year's is trying to come back to me, but I must have killed too many of those particular brain cells.
I could tell you about the Y2K eve I spent playing board games with a group of married & sober friends, but then I'd have to kill myself. (after we watched the Times Square thing, I headed "home" to the nearest bar, which helped a lot)
bigvic: one New Year's is trying to come back to me, but I must have killed too many of those particular brain cells.
I could tell you about the Y2K eve I spent playing board games with a group of married & sober friends, but then I'd have to kill myself. (after we watched the Times Square thing, I headed "home" to the nearest bar, which helped a lot)
I got really drunk one New Years' and woke up to find I'd posted a pun on Eschaton.
I got really drunk one New Years' and woke up to find I'd posted a pun on Eschaton.
(Charlize Theron)
Finished watching. Very bleak, and she looked like several miles of bad road. And acted like a swaggery redneck asshole guy. Assuming that was what Wuornos was like, she did an excellent job. Lady had *issues*, and the movie barely scratches the surface...
(Charlize Theron)
Finished watching. Very bleak, and she looked like several miles of bad road. And acted like a swaggery redneck asshole guy. Assuming that was what Wuornos was like, she did an excellent job. Lady had *issues*, and the movie barely scratches the surface...
Eli:
Pretty depressing movie to start the year with...........
Eli:
Pretty depressing movie to start the year with...........
I could tell you about the Y2K eve I spent playing board games with a group of married & sober friends, but then I'd have to kill myself.
I forgot about that one. I spent NY2KE at work, supporting a business unit I didn't even work for anymore, because I was the only expert on one of the systems (24-hour operation). Nothing happened, I basically just chilled at my desk, playing MP3s on my personal laptop, which I believe was running Linux at the time...
I could tell you about the Y2K eve I spent playing board games with a group of married & sober friends, but then I'd have to kill myself.
I forgot about that one. I spent NY2KE at work, supporting a business unit I didn't even work for anymore, because I was the only expert on one of the systems (24-hour operation). Nothing happened, I basically just chilled at my desk, playing MP3s on my personal laptop, which I believe was running Linux at the time...
I say this out of love: Do. Not. Drive. Drunk.
A.
A, I hear ya. Not gonna happen on my watch. I did some horrible drunk driving shit when I was in college. I never considered the damage I was capable of causing.
One of those "By the grace of god.." moments for me.
Nevermore!
I say this out of love: Do. Not. Drive. Drunk.
A.
A, I hear ya. Not gonna happen on my watch. I did some horrible drunk driving shit when I was in college. I never considered the damage I was capable of causing.
One of those "By the grace of god.." moments for me.
Nevermore!
Pretty depressing movie to start the year with...........
True, true. But it should give me the strength to keep my resolution not to take up prostitution or murder.
Pretty depressing movie to start the year with...........
True, true. But it should give me the strength to keep my resolution not to take up prostitution or murder.
Twenty five years ago, in NYC and my first taste of eggnog. Harmless, frothy stuff, or so I thought.
I do not know how I got back across town to my apartment, but the strange thing is I do vaguely remember stopping in a bar for a nightcap!
Twenty five years ago, in NYC and my first taste of eggnog. Harmless, frothy stuff, or so I thought.
I do not know how I got back across town to my apartment, but the strange thing is I do vaguely remember stopping in a bar for a nightcap!
I was asleep by 9:30. (Not by choice. Wifey couldn't wake me)
The restaurant biz is exhausting.
I was asleep by 9:30. (Not by choice. Wifey couldn't wake me)
The restaurant biz is exhausting.
Anyone remember the SNL Weekend Update when Norm McDonald announced that the previous year's winner, Crack Whore, had been eclipsed as the worst job in America? The new winner: Assistant Crack Whore.
Anyone remember the SNL Weekend Update when Norm McDonald announced that the previous year's winner, Crack Whore, had been eclipsed as the worst job in America? The new winner: Assistant Crack Whore.
Eli
heh, just thought I would gouge you a bit.
Eli
heh, just thought I would gouge you a bit.
As long as we're exploring the Ghost of New Years Past...
There was a 12 in snow the day before New Year with more falling. The plows couldn't keep up, so I cross-country skied across the small town where I lived to a local bar having a NYE party. Woke up the next morning on the floor at a friend's house a few blocks from the bar, still wearing the skis...
As long as we're exploring the Ghost of New Years Past...
There was a 12 in snow the day before New Year with more falling. The plows couldn't keep up, so I cross-country skied across the small town where I lived to a local bar having a NYE party. Woke up the next morning on the floor at a friend's house a few blocks from the bar, still wearing the skis...
True, true. But it should give me the strength to keep my resolution not to take up prostitution or murder
Jeebus, I do commend your grit and determination......
True, true. But it should give me the strength to keep my resolution not to take up prostitution or murder
Jeebus, I do commend your grit and determination......
Woke up the next morning on the floor at a friend's house a few blocks from the bar, still wearing the skis...
I'm imagining you walking into the house, drunk, on skis.
Woke up the next morning on the floor at a friend's house a few blocks from the bar, still wearing the skis...
I'm imagining you walking into the house, drunk, on skis.
heh, just thought I would gouge you a bit.
Okay. My conscience (such as it is) is eased a bit.
heh, just thought I would gouge you a bit.
Okay. My conscience (such as it is) is eased a bit.
Jeebus, I do commend your grit and determination......
Saying no to prostitution and murder is hard. It's hard work!
But if I can't be stronger than my preznit, what use am I?
Jeebus, I do commend your grit and determination......
Saying no to prostitution and murder is hard. It's hard work!
But if I can't be stronger than my preznit, what use am I?
Mean drunk Mother in San Antonio
Brother in Del Rio
I had to work at 5:30am the next day
At 8:00pm, she decided to party in Del Rio. 3 hours away and 3 hours back.
I ended up agreeing because the fight was getting nasty.
I was ticked, stayed sober and played driver for them as they clubbed. The brother and sister in law kept pushing at me for being a party pooper. Made it back, made it to work and hated every single minute.
That was the worst NYE.
Mean drunk Mother in San Antonio
Brother in Del Rio
I had to work at 5:30am the next day
At 8:00pm, she decided to party in Del Rio. 3 hours away and 3 hours back.
I ended up agreeing because the fight was getting nasty.
I was ticked, stayed sober and played driver for them as they clubbed. The brother and sister in law kept pushing at me for being a party pooper. Made it back, made it to work and hated every single minute.
That was the worst NYE.
Saying no to prostitution and murder is hard. It's hard work!
Just out of curiousity - what are you doing to replace the lost income?
Your preznit has family money, so its no comparison.
Saying no to prostitution and murder is hard. It's hard work!
Just out of curiousity - what are you doing to replace the lost income?
Your preznit has family money, so its no comparison.
Ohjeez. I just realized. When 4LG (I think; or maybe watertiger?) was talking about her wingnut brother saying Kerry wouldn't work as hard as Bush if he was elected, that was why. Holy shit, people actually *bought* that "hard work" bullshit.
My God, we truly are a nation of idiots.
Ohjeez. I just realized. When 4LG (I think; or maybe watertiger?) was talking about her wingnut brother saying Kerry wouldn't work as hard as Bush if he was elected, that was why. Holy shit, people actually *bought* that "hard work" bullshit.
My God, we truly are a nation of idiots.
ECT:
that's up there in the hall of fame of all time lousy NYE. And what a truly shitty way to start the year.
ECT:
that's up there in the hall of fame of all time lousy NYE. And what a truly shitty way to start the year.
Yikes!
One of the reasons the bigvic family has the the NYE party is that we have plenty of bed and sofas.
Also, we don't want to be on the road with rank ammetures
Yikes!
One of the reasons the bigvic family has the the NYE party is that we have plenty of bed and sofas.
Also, we don't want to be on the road with rank ammetures
Just out of curiousity - what are you doing to replace the lost income?
I have a job, I'm okay. I just need to steel myself to resist the siren call of supplemental (and tax-free!) income.
Mmm... supplemental tax-free income...
Just out of curiousity - what are you doing to replace the lost income?
I have a job, I'm okay. I just need to steel myself to resist the siren call of supplemental (and tax-free!) income.
Mmm... supplemental tax-free income...
I just need to steel myself to resist the siren call of supplemental (and tax-free!) income.
Or you could go work for Halliburton.
I just need to steel myself to resist the siren call of supplemental (and tax-free!) income.
Or you could go work for Halliburton.
Or you could go work for Halliburton.
No, trying not to be an accessory either. Or a john.
Or you could go work for Halliburton.
No, trying not to be an accessory either. Or a john.
EkCenTriK; that would have made a bad Thursday, June 4th. It is an award-winningly bad NYE. Me, I woulda bailed & left 'em all there in el Rushbo's favorite town. You're a better man than I.
EkCenTriK; that would have made a bad Thursday, June 4th. It is an award-winningly bad NYE. Me, I woulda bailed & left 'em all there in el Rushbo's favorite town. You're a better man than I.
No, trying not to be an accessory either. Or a john.
Hmmm. That must make "F&ck you" Cheney a pimp, eh?
No, trying not to be an accessory either. Or a john.
Hmmm. That must make "F&ck you" Cheney a pimp, eh?
I'm imagining you walking into the house, drunk, on skis.
I found out later that I had put holes in the carpet with the poles....
I'm imagining you walking into the house, drunk, on skis.
I found out later that I had put holes in the carpet with the poles....
i can tell you my BEST nye!!!
it was nye 99/00!!!
i was in tokyo for an acoustic invitation-only pizzicato five concert @ bunkamura cocoon!!!
& everyone in the audience was given sake @ midnight!!!
& it became more of a party than a concert & i will remember it forever & ever!!!
in fact, here's the pictures!
i can tell you my BEST nye!!!
it was nye 99/00!!!
i was in tokyo for an acoustic invitation-only pizzicato five concert @ bunkamura cocoon!!!
& everyone in the audience was given sake @ midnight!!!
& it became more of a party than a concert & i will remember it forever & ever!!!
in fact, here's the pictures!
Hmmm. That must make "F&ck you" Cheney a pimp, eh?
Oh, I wish. I would just love to see him sneering around in a long white fur coat and fancy walking stick, and maybe some platform shoes with goldfish in the heels...
Hmmm. That must make "F&ck you" Cheney a pimp, eh?
Oh, I wish. I would just love to see him sneering around in a long white fur coat and fancy walking stick, and maybe some platform shoes with goldfish in the heels...
Uh, uh.....crushed purple velvet.
Uh, uh.....crushed purple velvet.
Doozer among Fraggles
Those were just rotten times in the family then. Things like that compelled me to go out and be my own person. Served me well.
Doozer among Fraggles
Those were just rotten times in the family then. Things like that compelled me to go out and be my own person. Served me well.
That works too. Just so long as he's pimpin' *hard*.
That works too. Just so long as he's pimpin' *hard*.
Oh to have some photoshop skills.........
Oh to have some photoshop skills.........
Oh to have some photoshop skills.........
I'm sure someone out there does...
Oh to have some photoshop skills.........
I'm sure someone out there does...
(maybe they can show him with his arm thrown possessively around W. in a skimpy red leather mini...)
(maybe they can show him with his arm thrown possessively around W. in a skimpy red leather mini...)
Well kids, its been a hoot. But its now after 10pm here on the left coast. Which means all good librul boys 'n girls gotta go to bed.
Night all.
{Jeebus, am I old or what?}
Well kids, its been a hoot. But its now after 10pm here on the left coast. Which means all good librul boys 'n girls gotta go to bed.
Night all.
{Jeebus, am I old or what?}
Assuming that was what Wuornos was like, she did an excellent job.
Grand Rapids ~ gotta love it. That story was big news for months when it happened. The nursing home is now closed; you can find Michigan tumbleweeds growing through the cracks in the concrete of what was once the parking lot. It still creeps me out when I drive by that place.
bigvic, regarding NYE, I've got a million of them. Last night, much to my surprise, I ran into an ex-boyfriend. Thought he'd be whooping it up on the west coast, but he was here to visit family. It was nice to see him, he's a good guy. But the facts remain: he never had kids, and he was lukewarm on the stepfather issue. Still is. And the bottom line: I personally can't go back to a situation where someone could not accept all of me (including my daughter) for the sake of his "freedom." Or whatever his illusive butterfly happens to be. Anyway, made for an interesting evening.
Assuming that was what Wuornos was like, she did an excellent job.
Grand Rapids ~ gotta love it. That story was big news for months when it happened. The nursing home is now closed; you can find Michigan tumbleweeds growing through the cracks in the concrete of what was once the parking lot. It still creeps me out when I drive by that place.
bigvic, regarding NYE, I've got a million of them. Last night, much to my surprise, I ran into an ex-boyfriend. Thought he'd be whooping it up on the west coast, but he was here to visit family. It was nice to see him, he's a good guy. But the facts remain: he never had kids, and he was lukewarm on the stepfather issue. Still is. And the bottom line: I personally can't go back to a situation where someone could not accept all of me (including my daughter) for the sake of his "freedom." Or whatever his illusive butterfly happens to be. Anyway, made for an interesting evening.
(maybe they can show him with his arm thrown possessively around W. in a skimpy red leather mini...)
Now there's a fine visual to send me off to bed with......
(maybe they can show him with his arm thrown possessively around W. in a skimpy red leather mini...)
Now there's a fine visual to send me off to bed with......
The wife just tossed her worst NYE in the ring.
When she was a teen-ager her parents took her to a party at her father's CO's house. When driving in they came across the biggest skunk she had seen. He ambled off no big deal. At midnight, the CO just had to go out and fire off a few rounds on his pistol (wife said it was something big). Seems the skunk was part of a family living in the back yard. They all let go after the CO let go. The scent just took over the house. The party was called very quickly.
The wife just tossed her worst NYE in the ring.
When she was a teen-ager her parents took her to a party at her father's CO's house. When driving in they came across the biggest skunk she had seen. He ambled off no big deal. At midnight, the CO just had to go out and fire off a few rounds on his pistol (wife said it was something big). Seems the skunk was part of a family living in the back yard. They all let go after the CO let go. The scent just took over the house. The party was called very quickly.
Dang. I'm on the, um, right coast and still going strong...
Dang. I'm on the, um, right coast and still going strong...
Well, not *right* on it. I'm not in NYC anymore, sigh.
Well, not *right* on it. I'm not in NYC anymore, sigh.
Pleasant dreams, flory!
Pleasant dreams, flory!
Boy Howdy!
I have heard it here and heard it among my friends.
If it where'nt for smart, snappy people, I'd lose hope in the humanity of our republic and in the idealism of our founders.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
Nite, dear ones.
Peace.
Boy Howdy!
I have heard it here and heard it among my friends.
If it where'nt for smart, snappy people, I'd lose hope in the humanity of our republic and in the idealism of our founders.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
Nite, dear ones.
Peace.
Why do I have this feeling that Ek just summoned bebe?
Why do I have this feeling that Ek just summoned bebe?
Eli, I don't know about bebe, but I sat back and read that and went ..oh no!.
Eli, I don't know about bebe, but I sat back and read that and went ..oh no!.
Well nite folks, back to the real world. Wherever that is. I have dithered about here all day ignoring the news and unfortunate events. It was nice. Y'all have a good one.
Well nite folks, back to the real world. Wherever that is. I have dithered about here all day ignoring the news and unfortunate events. It was nice. Y'all have a good one.
'Night, vic.
I'm glad we can get on these threads and laugh. Life would indeed be much darker without the opportunity.
Might be back later. I'm gonna run down to the studio and see if inspiration takes hold...
'Night, vic.
I'm glad we can get on these threads and laugh. Life would indeed be much darker without the opportunity.
Might be back later. I'm gonna run down to the studio and see if inspiration takes hold...
Night, vic 'n' Ek!
Hellooooo???
*crickets*
Night, vic 'n' Ek!
Hellooooo???
*crickets*
I remember one NYE where I passed out early. When I woke the next morning, Richard Nixon was coating my nether region with STP, Strom was passed out straddling a rubber mongoose, and a young Donald Rumsfeld was passed out in his own vomit.
-Liddy Dole
I remember one NYE where I passed out early. When I woke the next morning, Richard Nixon was coating my nether region with STP, Strom was passed out straddling a rubber mongoose, and a young Donald Rumsfeld was passed out in his own vomit.
-Liddy Dole
Wha????!!! What'd I say? I join the par-tay and you all hit the hay?
*sniff
Wha????!!! What'd I say? I join the par-tay and you all hit the hay?
*sniff
Hey, I'm still here! Or maybe that's the problem...
Hey, I'm still here! Or maybe that's the problem...
Not hitting hay just yet, Vicki. I'll be in the studio - where I keep a browser window open on the studio machine.
So I'm here, just... multitasking. Yeah, that's it.
Not hitting hay just yet, Vicki. I'll be in the studio - where I keep a browser window open on the studio machine.
So I'm here, just... multitasking. Yeah, that's it.
Don't fret Vicki. We still have the ferret and some scotch.
Don't fret Vicki. We still have the ferret and some scotch.
Somehow scotch and ferrets sounds like a really bad combination...
Somehow scotch and ferrets sounds like a really bad combination...
Keep the ferret away from me ~ I have marching orders from Athenae that the ferret is for good, not evil.
Keep the ferret away from me ~ I have marching orders from Athenae that the ferret is for good, not evil.
stranger, not trying to yell at you. Just concerned.
I got a kickass drunk dial from some friends last night who were all partying together and screaming Happy New Year and "We love you!" into the phone. Cracked me up and made me cry at the same time.
A.
stranger, not trying to yell at you. Just concerned.
I got a kickass drunk dial from some friends last night who were all partying together and screaming Happy New Year and "We love you!" into the phone. Cracked me up and made me cry at the same time.
A.
I woke up realizing I was having a dream where I was explaining to a bartender that Gandhi was a vegetarian barefoot religious leader who ate a lot of garlic and was a
"super calloused fragile mystic hexed by hallitosis."
Damn. These blogs become part of your unconscious fiber. There's no way I ever could have remembered that in my waking life if I'd tried.
I woke up realizing I was having a dream where I was explaining to a bartender that Gandhi was a vegetarian barefoot religious leader who ate a lot of garlic and was a
"super calloused fragile mystic hexed by hallitosis."
Damn. These blogs become part of your unconscious fiber. There's no way I ever could have remembered that in my waking life if I'd tried.
Ferrets don't kill people... People kill people. With ferrets.
Ferrets don't kill people... People kill people. With ferrets.
However, I think Liddy Dole should share her encounter with the ferret and a jar of Miracle Whip. As I remember, the furry little devil weasled his way into her left fallopian tube.
However, I think Liddy Dole should share her encounter with the ferret and a jar of Miracle Whip. As I remember, the furry little devil weasled his way into her left fallopian tube.
Well, all's ferret in love and war.
Well, all's ferret in love and war.
I got a ferret story!
Back when I was single, I shared a house with a couple of other guys. The one guy worked in a bank, nice guy, hard worker - but every Friday, he'd head out to Queens and come back home with a joint of angel dust, which he would smoke in his bedroom with the door closed.
He had two ferrets. Which he kept in his room, while he smoked his weekly angel dust joint.
One night he decided to let them out after smoking up. Imagine two dusted ferrets wandering through the living room. One of them must have imagined my leg as a steak or a big piece of ferret food, and grabbed a hold and sank his tooth into my sneaker.
I was forced to drop-kick the little bastard across the room. From that point on, we made the guy keep his damn ferrets in the cage.
I got a ferret story!
Back when I was single, I shared a house with a couple of other guys. The one guy worked in a bank, nice guy, hard worker - but every Friday, he'd head out to Queens and come back home with a joint of angel dust, which he would smoke in his bedroom with the door closed.
He had two ferrets. Which he kept in his room, while he smoked his weekly angel dust joint.
One night he decided to let them out after smoking up. Imagine two dusted ferrets wandering through the living room. One of them must have imagined my leg as a steak or a big piece of ferret food, and grabbed a hold and sank his tooth into my sneaker.
I was forced to drop-kick the little bastard across the room. From that point on, we made the guy keep his damn ferrets in the cage.
That's even worse than ferrets and scotch...
That's even worse than ferrets and scotch...
(I think there was a blaxpo movie about ferrets on PCP - Avenging Disco Godferret, I believe)
(I think there was a blaxpo movie about ferrets on PCP - Avenging Disco Godferret, I believe)
Athenae -
It's cool. Thanks so much for caring.
I'm a real good boy compared to who I used to be. Used to be a right bastard who wouldn't listen to anybody. The wild thing is I know people who are just like that, and I can't tell them anything.
I see me in them, and realize I'm probably lucky to be alive at this point.
Athenae -
It's cool. Thanks so much for caring.
I'm a real good boy compared to who I used to be. Used to be a right bastard who wouldn't listen to anybody. The wild thing is I know people who are just like that, and I can't tell them anything.
I see me in them, and realize I'm probably lucky to be alive at this point.
I got a kickass drunk dial from some friends last night who were all partying together and screaming Happy New Year and "We love you!" into the phone.
Wow! Pretty cool, even if they were a little under the bubbly! You'll remember that for a while!
I received a call, too, at 3:00 AM! This friend of mine, who is a lesbian, will call me when she is drunk professing to me that she loves me and that she is "interested"... When she's sober, I never hear a peep.
I'm not gay. I think it's just because she is horny. And drunk. Nonetheless, I don't know whether to laugh or cry when she calls...
Last night was weird. Unrequited love all around.
I got a kickass drunk dial from some friends last night who were all partying together and screaming Happy New Year and "We love you!" into the phone.
Wow! Pretty cool, even if they were a little under the bubbly! You'll remember that for a while!
I received a call, too, at 3:00 AM! This friend of mine, who is a lesbian, will call me when she is drunk professing to me that she loves me and that she is "interested"... When she's sober, I never hear a peep.
I'm not gay. I think it's just because she is horny. And drunk. Nonetheless, I don't know whether to laugh or cry when she calls...
Last night was weird. Unrequited love all around.
Stories like that are the reason people look at me cross-eyed when we tell them we have the little critters.
I think it's just that they're so zen, people assume we must be getting high and watching them squirrel around.
And Vicki's right, they are exclusively for troll-guarding and petting, not for the Dark Arts.
A.
Stories like that are the reason people look at me cross-eyed when we tell them we have the little critters.
I think it's just that they're so zen, people assume we must be getting high and watching them squirrel around.
And Vicki's right, they are exclusively for troll-guarding and petting, not for the Dark Arts.
A.
Is there ferretnip?
Is there ferretnip?
stranger,
that's quite a story! Poor little thing. Did he survive the punt?
stranger,
that's quite a story! Poor little thing. Did he survive the punt?
The ferrets were actually pretty cool before they started taking the drugs.
Ferrets + dust = psycho ferrets from hell.
The ferrets were actually pretty cool before they started taking the drugs.
Ferrets + dust = psycho ferrets from hell.
Kee-rist its hard to actually leave one of these threads....
Athenae, since I didn't say it on First Draft, I'll tell you now the 'Brotherly Love Edition' is one of the all time cutest critter-blogging moments on record.
Now, I *am* going to bed.
Nite all.
Kee-rist its hard to actually leave one of these threads....
Athenae, since I didn't say it on First Draft, I'll tell you now the 'Brotherly Love Edition' is one of the all time cutest critter-blogging moments on record.
Now, I *am* going to bed.
Nite all.
Vicki,
I swear he got up and sneered at me. He was unhurt - I din't really kick him - just shook him off my leg with extreme prejudice, if you will.
Vicki,
I swear he got up and sneered at me. He was unhurt - I din't really kick him - just shook him off my leg with extreme prejudice, if you will.
Y'all probably know this, but Michigan lost to Texas by 1 point in the last 2 seconds of the game.
The thought that Michigan lost to Texas pissed me off all over again. Seriously. I evolved into a funk about the next four years, and then gave myself a good, old Foghorn Leghorn talk to kick my ass out of it.
I hate Bush.
Y'all probably know this, but Michigan lost to Texas by 1 point in the last 2 seconds of the game.
The thought that Michigan lost to Texas pissed me off all over again. Seriously. I evolved into a funk about the next four years, and then gave myself a good, old Foghorn Leghorn talk to kick my ass out of it.
I hate Bush.
Ultimate football player name - Dusty Magnum!
I didn't see the game - I was busy watching the Knicks lose to the Nets. Damn cross-river rivalry...
Ultimate football player name - Dusty Magnum!
I didn't see the game - I was busy watching the Knicks lose to the Nets. Damn cross-river rivalry...
At least it wasn't, say, Boston College that they beat, Vicki. Although the Michigan coach actually looks a lot like Kerry, now that I think of it. He's a total jerk, though.
At least it wasn't, say, Boston College that they beat, Vicki. Although the Michigan coach actually looks a lot like Kerry, now that I think of it. He's a total jerk, though.
Correction Dusty Mangum
It was an awesome game. Loved (almost) every minute. Every agonizing minute.
Correction Dusty Mangum
It was an awesome game. Loved (almost) every minute. Every agonizing minute.
I think it's Dusty Mangum, actually, which is considerably less... porn-star.
I think it's Dusty Mangum, actually, which is considerably less... porn-star.
O(ferret)T, but if anyone wants to hear a great song (IMHO) check out "Somewhere in Time" on the Los Lobos album The Ride. The song is originally by Dave Alvin and Los Lobos' cover includes Alvin on vocal. It is just haunting...
O(ferret)T, but if anyone wants to hear a great song (IMHO) check out "Somewhere in Time" on the Los Lobos album The Ride. The song is originally by Dave Alvin and Los Lobos' cover includes Alvin on vocal. It is just haunting...
When I see "includes Alvin on vocal", I imagine something else entirely. And it ain't haunting.
When I see "includes Alvin on vocal", I imagine something else entirely. And it ain't haunting.
Mangum? Oh...
That's what I get for reading too fast.
Mangum? Oh...
That's what I get for reading too fast.
When I see "includes Alvin on vocal", I imagine something else entirely. And it ain't haunting.
Eli
Ha Ha Ha! "Christmas, Christmas..."
When I see "includes Alvin on vocal", I imagine something else entirely. And it ain't haunting.
Eli
Ha Ha Ha! "Christmas, Christmas..."
When I see "includes Alvin on vocal", I imagine something else entirely. And it ain't haunting.
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Eli. I looked at your homepage. It has that "I just bought a digital camera and now I'm into obscure arty photography" quality to it.
You might want to check out this magagine.
When I see "includes Alvin on vocal", I imagine something else entirely. And it ain't haunting.
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Eli. I looked at your homepage. It has that "I just bought a digital camera and now I'm into obscure arty photography" quality to it.
You might want to check out this magagine.
Oh my. I just saw that Garden State Life commercial with Jan and Mickey Rooney. I never noticed this before, but when Mickey's in the background washing the dishes while she's talking, he's actually *pantomiming* the whole thing. No water, and nothing in his hands.
Very, very weird. Is he showing off? Did they not have enough budget for dishes or water?
Oh my. I just saw that Garden State Life commercial with Jan and Mickey Rooney. I never noticed this before, but when Mickey's in the background washing the dishes while she's talking, he's actually *pantomiming* the whole thing. No water, and nothing in his hands.
Very, very weird. Is he showing off? Did they not have enough budget for dishes or water?
Eli. I looked at your homepage. It has that "I just bought a digital camera and now I'm into obscure arty photography" quality to it.
I think you've got it backwards. The obscure arty photography precedes the digital camera by several years.
Eli. I looked at your homepage. It has that "I just bought a digital camera and now I'm into obscure arty photography" quality to it.
I think you've got it backwards. The obscure arty photography precedes the digital camera by several years.
I think you've got it backwards. The obscure arty photography precedes the digital camera by several years.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 1:57 am | #
I think you've got it backwards. The obscure arty photography precedes the digital camera by several years.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 1:57 am | #
Ha Ha Ha! "Christmas, Christmas..."
I have an mp3 somewhere of a Chipmunks song slowed back down to actual speed. Pretty unsettling, really.
Ha Ha Ha! "Christmas, Christmas..."
I have an mp3 somewhere of a Chipmunks song slowed back down to actual speed. Pretty unsettling, really.
I think you've got it backwards. The obscure arty photography precedes the digital camera by several years.
Lets try that again.
You'd probably like this site.
I often do their "weekly assignments". It's pretty fun.
I think you've got it backwards. The obscure arty photography precedes the digital camera by several years.
Lets try that again.
You'd probably like this site.
I often do their "weekly assignments". It's pretty fun.
State of the art, those Chipmunks.
Off to bed. Have fun.
State of the art, those Chipmunks.
Off to bed. Have fun.
You'd probably like this site.
I often do their "weekly assignments". It's pretty fun.
Very cool. First I need to get a *real* camera that just happens to be digital. Right now I just have a glorified instamatic. I need an SLR, with control over focus, aperture and shutter, just like the old days.
You'd probably like this site.
I often do their "weekly assignments". It's pretty fun.
Very cool. First I need to get a *real* camera that just happens to be digital. Right now I just have a glorified instamatic. I need an SLR, with control over focus, aperture and shutter, just like the old days.
Is there chipnip?
Is there chipnip?
I need an SLR, with control over focus, aperture and shutter, just like the old days.
You can get a D70 or a Digital Rebel now for under 1000 bucks.
The D70 is an awsome camera.
I need an SLR, with control over focus, aperture and shutter, just like the old days.
You can get a D70 or a Digital Rebel now for under 1000 bucks.
The D70 is an awsome camera.
You can get a D70 or a Digital Rebel now for under 1000 bucks.
The D70 is an awsome camera.
Yep, I know. But "under 1000 bucks" is not exactly my price range, especially since I know I'm not going to be spending a ton of time taking pictures.
You can get a D70 or a Digital Rebel now for under 1000 bucks.
The D70 is an awsome camera.
Yep, I know. But "under 1000 bucks" is not exactly my price range, especially since I know I'm not going to be spending a ton of time taking pictures.
Yep, I know. But "under 1000 bucks" is not exactly my price range, especially since I know I'm not going to be spending a ton of time taking pictures.
I skimp on computer equipment to buy lenses. That's why I have this cheap HP Pavilion. The extra money went into a fast portrait lens. I keep hoping to take photos of small concerts etc. but most places in NYC ban photography.
Yep, I know. But "under 1000 bucks" is not exactly my price range, especially since I know I'm not going to be spending a ton of time taking pictures.
I skimp on computer equipment to buy lenses. That's why I have this cheap HP Pavilion. The extra money went into a fast portrait lens. I keep hoping to take photos of small concerts etc. but most places in NYC ban photography.
My priorities are pretty much the opposite. I know I'm realistically get more value out of a PC or laptop than a camera, so I just can't justify spending that kind of money on a camera. So the price has to either come down to $300-400, or something has to happen so that $1000 looks about as big to me as $300-4000 does now.
I'm also hoping I'd be able to get some kind of adapter so I could use my old lenses, even if they are a little beat-up.
My priorities are pretty much the opposite. I know I'm realistically get more value out of a PC or laptop than a camera, so I just can't justify spending that kind of money on a camera. So the price has to either come down to $300-400, or something has to happen so that $1000 looks about as big to me as $300-4000 does now.
I'm also hoping I'd be able to get some kind of adapter so I could use my old lenses, even if they are a little beat-up.
In other words, I'm a cheapskate dabbler.
In other words, I'm a cheapskate dabbler.
Well think about it this way. I took over 1000 photos with my D70 this Christmas, all with no flash and a fast lens. I printed up about 100 8 x 10s for various relatives and friends.
How much would film have cost to do that?
If you buy a D70 it's a big initial investment but if you take a lot of photos it's cheap in the end.
Well think about it this way. I took over 1000 photos with my D70 this Christmas, all with no flash and a fast lens. I printed up about 100 8 x 10s for various relatives and friends.
How much would film have cost to do that?
If you buy a D70 it's a big initial investment but if you take a lot of photos it's cheap in the end.
Well, the question is, how much would I use the D70? I *think* i'd use it more than my old digicam because it would be a real camera, but I don't know if I'd use it enough to justify the expense.
There's a certain point where my lust for the sweet camera will probably overwhelm my restraint and common sense, but I haven't reached it yet.
Well, the question is, how much would I use the D70? I *think* i'd use it more than my old digicam because it would be a real camera, but I don't know if I'd use it enough to justify the expense.
There's a certain point where my lust for the sweet camera will probably overwhelm my restraint and common sense, but I haven't reached it yet.
My priorities are pretty much the opposite. I know I'm realistically get more value out of a PC or laptop than a camera,
Speaking of PCs, I went out yesterday and bought a 39.95 Radeon 7000 video card for my desktop and I'm really surprised at how much better my performance is.
I'm almost pissed that my laptop has integrated video memory and I can't upgrade it.
That was a very good 40 bucks. It makes me wonder what one of those 500 dollard video cards would be like.
My priorities are pretty much the opposite. I know I'm realistically get more value out of a PC or laptop than a camera,
Speaking of PCs, I went out yesterday and bought a 39.95 Radeon 7000 video card for my desktop and I'm really surprised at how much better my performance is.
I'm almost pissed that my laptop has integrated video memory and I can't upgrade it.
That was a very good 40 bucks. It makes me wonder what one of those 500 dollard video cards would be like.
Sweet. I made sure to get a laptop with a very good video card (for the time, at least) for precisely that reason.
Sweet. I made sure to get a laptop with a very good video card (for the time, at least) for precisely that reason.
(of course, my previous laptop couldn't even play mah-jongg in 3D mode, so maybe I overcompensated...)
(of course, my previous laptop couldn't even play mah-jongg in 3D mode, so maybe I overcompensated...)
Sweet. I made sure to get a laptop with a very good video card (for the time, at least) for precisely that reason.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 2:24 am | #
I have this monster 8 pound Thinkpad G40. Takes up my whole backpack. It has a normal P-IV not a Centrino. It has integrated video. But it's so durable that if you dropped a MOAB on it it wouldn't stop running.
What would be your deam light/small laptop (if you had unlimited $$$)?
Sweet. I made sure to get a laptop with a very good video card (for the time, at least) for precisely that reason.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 2:24 am | #
I have this monster 8 pound Thinkpad G40. Takes up my whole backpack. It has a normal P-IV not a Centrino. It has integrated video. But it's so durable that if you dropped a MOAB on it it wouldn't stop running.
What would be your deam light/small laptop (if you had unlimited $$$)?
I'm not sure I can answer that question. I evaluate laptops on performance rather than weight. And whether they have that little trackball thingy. So my ideal would probably be some version of the Dell XPS (their Extreme Gamer laptop).
My laptop's a P4 Inspiron 8200, and I think it weighs the same as yours.
I'm not sure I can answer that question. I evaluate laptops on performance rather than weight. And whether they have that little trackball thingy. So my ideal would probably be some version of the Dell XPS (their Extreme Gamer laptop).
My laptop's a P4 Inspiron 8200, and I think it weighs the same as yours.
(XPS appears to weigh *9* pounds...)
(XPS appears to weigh *9* pounds...)
I like the big keyboard on the G40. I've got big hands. It's very natural and easy to type on. I even like the little pointing stick in the middle.
But God this thing is huge. And unlike yours, it's sluggish. Of course it will be running fine long after your Dell has died.
I like the big keyboard on the G40. I've got big hands. It's very natural and easy to type on. I even like the little pointing stick in the middle.
But God this thing is huge. And unlike yours, it's sluggish. Of course it will be running fine long after your Dell has died.
dedominator -
Hey, that is a fantastic song. Thanks for reminding me, I've been meaning to get that Los Lobos CD. Some great players including Richard Thompson, Elvis Costello and Bobby Womack also contribute.
dedominator -
Hey, that is a fantastic song. Thanks for reminding me, I've been meaning to get that Los Lobos CD. Some great players including Richard Thompson, Elvis Costello and Bobby Womack also contribute.
You know, maybe I can put a Radeon mobility in this thing.
You know, maybe I can put a Radeon mobility in this thing.
Of course it will be running fine long after your Dell has died.
I'm sure I'll have upgraded before then.
Of course it will be running fine long after your Dell has died.
I'm sure I'll have upgraded before then.
Some great players including Richard Thompson
Have you ever heard Fairport Convention's version of "Percy's Song"?
Some great players including Richard Thompson
Have you ever heard Fairport Convention's version of "Percy's Song"?
You know, maybe I can put a Radeon mobility in this thing.
How?
You know, maybe I can put a Radeon mobility in this thing.
How?
Ohjeez. I just realized. When 4LG (I think; or maybe watertiger?) was talking about her wingnut brother saying Kerry wouldn't work as hard as Bush if he was elected, that was why. Holy shit, people actually *bought* that "hard work" bullshit.
I'm ashamed to admit it, but that was me, and that's my brother. He said he was afraid Kerry would "retire to his yacht." I almost threw up.
Ohjeez. I just realized. When 4LG (I think; or maybe watertiger?) was talking about her wingnut brother saying Kerry wouldn't work as hard as Bush if he was elected, that was why. Holy shit, people actually *bought* that "hard work" bullshit.
I'm ashamed to admit it, but that was me, and that's my brother. He said he was afraid Kerry would "retire to his yacht." I almost threw up.
I dunno. Some of the G40s have integrated video, some have video cards.
I dunno. Some of the G40s have integrated video, some have video cards.
I dunno. Some of the G40s have integrated video, some have video cards.
Yes, but how would you actually *do* it? I think you'd have to void the warranty nine ways to Sunday to even get at the video card, and even then there's no guarantee that there would be a compatible slot for the ATI card.
I dunno. Some of the G40s have integrated video, some have video cards.
Yes, but how would you actually *do* it? I think you'd have to void the warranty nine ways to Sunday to even get at the video card, and even then there's no guarantee that there would be a compatible slot for the ATI card.
It's out of warranty and I'd send it out anyway.
It's out of warranty and I'd send it out anyway.
I'm ashamed to admit it, but that was me, and that's my brother. He said he was afraid Kerry would "retire to his yacht." I almost threw up.
Kinda wish you had, really...
It's like they're living in an entirely different reality from us, which of course they are.
(almost spelled that "raelity" - Tom - Daai Tou Laam would have approved...)
I'm ashamed to admit it, but that was me, and that's my brother. He said he was afraid Kerry would "retire to his yacht." I almost threw up.
Kinda wish you had, really...
It's like they're living in an entirely different reality from us, which of course they are.
(almost spelled that "raelity" - Tom - Daai Tou Laam would have approved...)
Speaking of cameras, I'm thinking of buying a digital SLR. I can't decide if I should go with a Nikon or with a Canon. Then again, I really like my digital Olympus, so I'll probably check their SLR out too.
I think SWR is right, you can spend a fortune on film learning on a regular SLR.
If you want to just fool around, several of the smaller digitals have a lot of feaures. The prices have come way down as well.
Anyone have any recommendations on a SLR?
Speaking of cameras, I'm thinking of buying a digital SLR. I can't decide if I should go with a Nikon or with a Canon. Then again, I really like my digital Olympus, so I'll probably check their SLR out too.
I think SWR is right, you can spend a fortune on film learning on a regular SLR.
If you want to just fool around, several of the smaller digitals have a lot of feaures. The prices have come way down as well.
Anyone have any recommendations on a SLR?
Have you ever heard Fairport Convention's version of "Percy's Song"?
Haven't heard that tune. My favorite Richard Thompson album is the one he recorded with his wife, Linda, which sort of chronicled their breakup, called Shoot out the Lights. It's almost as good as Dylan's Blood on the Tracks.
I guess a bad breakup is the artist's muse...
Have you ever heard Fairport Convention's version of "Percy's Song"?
Haven't heard that tune. My favorite Richard Thompson album is the one he recorded with his wife, Linda, which sort of chronicled their breakup, called Shoot out the Lights. It's almost as good as Dylan's Blood on the Tracks.
I guess a bad breakup is the artist's muse...
It's out of warranty and I'd send it out anyway.
Could work, then. I thought you were going to do it yourself, which seemed a bit foolhardy.
It's out of warranty and I'd send it out anyway.
Could work, then. I thought you were going to do it yourself, which seemed a bit foolhardy.
Anyone have any recommendations on a SLR?
fourlegsgood | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 2:47 am | #
It depends. If you want to spend a little over 1000 bucks, go for the d70.
If you have a bit more $$$, go for the 20D.
Anyone have any recommendations on a SLR?
fourlegsgood | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 2:47 am | #
It depends. If you want to spend a little over 1000 bucks, go for the d70.
If you have a bit more $$$, go for the 20D.
Kinda wish you had, really...
It's like they're living in an entirely different reality from us, which of course they are.
I've given up fighting with my family. I figure my brother will get it back in spades when his oldest daughter gets drafted to serve in chimpy's next war.
Kinda wish you had, really...
It's like they're living in an entirely different reality from us, which of course they are.
I've given up fighting with my family. I figure my brother will get it back in spades when his oldest daughter gets drafted to serve in chimpy's next war.
I'll defer to Digital SWR on digital SLRs. I think EOS is cheaper, but D70 is better, but that's about as deep as I go.
I'll defer to Digital SWR on digital SLRs. I think EOS is cheaper, but D70 is better, but that's about as deep as I go.
Do you know anything about the Olympus? Most of the people I work with use a Canon and are happy with it.
I don't think I need something super fancy.
Do you know anything about the Olympus? Most of the people I work with use a Canon and are happy with it.
I don't think I need something super fancy.
Haven't heard that tune.
Go to iTunes and download it.
Amazing soaring lyrical guitar line dualing with Sandy Denny's voice.
I actualy tend to think Bob Dylan does his own songs better than anybody else.
But this version is just poetic.
Haven't heard that tune.
Go to iTunes and download it.
Amazing soaring lyrical guitar line dualing with Sandy Denny's voice.
I actualy tend to think Bob Dylan does his own songs better than anybody else.
But this version is just poetic.
I figure my brother will get it back in spades when his oldest daughter gets drafted to serve in chimpy's next war.
Or his current one...
(of course, *any* additional war will be considered part of the current one anyway)
I figure my brother will get it back in spades when his oldest daughter gets drafted to serve in chimpy's next war.
Or his current one...
(of course, *any* additional war will be considered part of the current one anyway)
I don't think I need something super fancy.
fourlegsgood | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 2:51 am | #
I had a Digital Rebel until I accidentally destroyed it.
Great camera.
But the d70 is even better.
Haven't used a 20D.
I don't think I need something super fancy.
fourlegsgood | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 2:51 am | #
I had a Digital Rebel until I accidentally destroyed it.
Great camera.
But the d70 is even better.
Haven't used a 20D.
Eli - you have a good eye!
Eli - you have a good eye!
Thanks, mag! Hope it's not too fishy...
Thanks, mag! Hope it's not too fishy...
ha! good one. you have been flirting with the desire for a BIG digital for weeks. Go for it!
ha! good one. you have been flirting with the desire for a BIG digital for weeks. Go for it!
More like months, if not years. I am patient as the grave...
More like months, if not years. I am patient as the grave...
i'd love a bid D series or Canon but shit, they cost more than most cars I have owned. Even with an excuse (I'm a publisher!) I can't bring myself to shell out so much when I have 3 decent consumer nikon digitals at the business.
i'd love a bid D series or Canon but shit, they cost more than most cars I have owned. Even with an excuse (I'm a publisher!) I can't bring myself to shell out so much when I have 3 decent consumer nikon digitals at the business.
SWR- we should cook up a new ad campaign for Nikon, make $$ and buy monster cameras.
"Now that's BIG digital - by Nikon!"
SWR- we should cook up a new ad campaign for Nikon, make $$ and buy monster cameras.
"Now that's BIG digital - by Nikon!"
Nikon seems to be falling behind Canon. But I like my d70. It's severe overkill for 99% of the population.
Of course this is even BIGGER DIGITAL
Nikon seems to be falling behind Canon. But I like my d70. It's severe overkill for 99% of the population.
Of course this is even BIGGER DIGITAL
Yoicks. I like how 4 megapixels is the *lowest* quality setting.
I don't crave megapixels the same way I crave gigahertz, since I don't really think about actually printing anything, and certainly not in enormous sizes. 2-3 megapixels is probably enough for me, I just want the Camera Experience.
Mercy!
Yoicks. I like how 4 megapixels is the *lowest* quality setting.
I don't crave megapixels the same way I crave gigahertz, since I don't really think about actually printing anything, and certainly not in enormous sizes. 2-3 megapixels is probably enough for me, I just want the Camera Experience.
Mercy!
The sensor size is more important than Megapixels.
The D70s sensor is several times as large as most 8 megapixel digicams and yet it's only 6.
The sensor size is more important than Megapixels.
The D70s sensor is several times as large as most 8 megapixel digicams and yet it's only 6.
SWR - upthread about Dylan...I've been stuck for about a week on the song "Most of the Time." Know it?
Eli. Get. a. camera. already. you know you want it, baby.
SWR - upthread about Dylan...I've been stuck for about a week on the song "Most of the Time." Know it?
Eli. Get. a. camera. already. you know you want it, baby.
Don't know it.
Yes. Eli should buy a D70.
He won't regret it.
1299 with the lens plus you get a 100 dollar rebate.
Don't know it.
Yes. Eli should buy a D70.
He won't regret it.
1299 with the lens plus you get a 100 dollar rebate.
The sensor size is more important than Megapixels.
Can you elaborate on that? When I finally do break down and get a digital SLR, I don't want to make the digital camera equivalent of the 3.4GHz-PC-with-64MB-of-RAM mistake.
The sensor size is more important than Megapixels.
Can you elaborate on that? When I finally do break down and get a digital SLR, I don't want to make the digital camera equivalent of the 3.4GHz-PC-with-64MB-of-RAM mistake.
Can you elaborate on that? When I finally do break down and get a digital SLR, I don't want to make the digital camera equivalent of the 3.4GHz-PC-with-64MB-of-RAM mistake.
Read this.
Can you elaborate on that? When I finally do break down and get a digital SLR, I don't want to make the digital camera equivalent of the 3.4GHz-PC-with-64MB-of-RAM mistake.
Read this.
But you shouldn't even have to read it.
Just buy the D70. It's a no brainer.
But you shouldn't even have to read it.
Just buy the D70. It's a no brainer.
Digital cameras distort reality. That's not how reality appears to the naked eye.
Digital cameras distort reality. That's not how reality appears to the naked eye.
So do 4 x 5 view cameras.
Hey. As long as Michelle Malkin is the fascist du jour, does anybody know that Ansel Adams wrote a book protesting the internement of the Japanese?
Amazing photographs.
So do 4 x 5 view cameras.
Hey. As long as Michelle Malkin is the fascist du jour, does anybody know that Ansel Adams wrote a book protesting the internement of the Japanese?
Amazing photographs.
In 1980 alot of people bought a personal computer and discovered there was absolutely nothing they could do with it. Today it's different, they can surf porn, sell their old junk, engage in mindless coversations for hours, and gamble away a life savings trading stocks. This is what's known as the productivity revolution.
In 1980 alot of people bought a personal computer and discovered there was absolutely nothing they could do with it. Today it's different, they can surf porn, sell their old junk, engage in mindless coversations for hours, and gamble away a life savings trading stocks. This is what's known as the productivity revolution.
You mean as opposed to watching TV.
You mean as opposed to watching TV.
As long as Michelle Malkin is the fascist du jour, does anybody know that Ansel Adams wrote a book protesting the internement of the Japanese?
Amazing photographs.
Well, that kinda goes without saying, dunnit?
Although I don't really associate him with people photos, so that's different.
As long as Michelle Malkin is the fascist du jour, does anybody know that Ansel Adams wrote a book protesting the internement of the Japanese?
Amazing photographs.
Well, that kinda goes without saying, dunnit?
Although I don't really associate him with people photos, so that's different.
Computers will create a 'paperless revolution' in the office.
Computers will create a 'paperless revolution' in the office.
I read his autobiography. He's pretty political actually. He comes out and says "I'M A LIBERAL" then he says that it was PHYSICALL PAINFUL for him to be in the same room as Ronald Reagan.
I read his autobiography. He's pretty political actually. He comes out and says "I'M A LIBERAL" then he says that it was PHYSICALL PAINFUL for him to be in the same room as Ronald Reagan.
(unfortunately, the photos are *so* gorgeous, it kinda makes the internment camps look like not such a bad thing...)
(unfortunately, the photos are *so* gorgeous, it kinda makes the internment camps look like not such a bad thing...)
It's time for everyone to get off the internet. We can use our local library for whatever we need.
It's time for everyone to get off the internet. We can use our local library for whatever we need.
(unfortunately, the photos are *so* gorgeous, it kinda makes the internment camps look like not such a bad thing...)
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 3:47 am | #
I've thought about that.
But I realized that most racists like to see people they hate look degraded.
And Adams is making the Japanese look American, more American than a lot of white Americans.
Racists really hate it when somebody makes their object of hate look elevated and more human than they are.
(unfortunately, the photos are *so* gorgeous, it kinda makes the internment camps look like not such a bad thing...)
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 3:47 am | #
I've thought about that.
But I realized that most racists like to see people they hate look degraded.
And Adams is making the Japanese look American, more American than a lot of white Americans.
Racists really hate it when somebody makes their object of hate look elevated and more human than they are.
But I realized that most racists like to see people they hate look degraded.
And Adams is making the Japanese look American, more American than a lot of white Americans.
Racists really hate it when somebody makes their object of hate look elevated and more human than they are.
Yes, it may deprive the hardcore racists of their fun, but it kind of plays into the hands of the passive enablers, the ones who think of themselves as good, tolerant people, who can say to themselves, "Well, those Japanese people seem quite happy, and those mountains in the background are lovely, so everyone who's complaining about the camps is really just making a big fuss over nothing."
But I realized that most racists like to see people they hate look degraded.
And Adams is making the Japanese look American, more American than a lot of white Americans.
Racists really hate it when somebody makes their object of hate look elevated and more human than they are.
Yes, it may deprive the hardcore racists of their fun, but it kind of plays into the hands of the passive enablers, the ones who think of themselves as good, tolerant people, who can say to themselves, "Well, those Japanese people seem quite happy, and those mountains in the background are lovely, so everyone who's complaining about the camps is really just making a big fuss over nothing."
"Well, those Japanese people seem quite happy, and those mountains in the background are lovely
But if those same people saw the Japanese being abused what would they think?
It's an old racist trick. Treat people like shit then blame them for looking like shit after they've been treated like shit.
The Nazis herded Jews into gettos and then made movies of the overcrowding and said "look how these Jews live in overcrowded conditions".
The thing about Adams is I don't think he was capable of creating something ugly.
"Well, those Japanese people seem quite happy, and those mountains in the background are lovely
But if those same people saw the Japanese being abused what would they think?
It's an old racist trick. Treat people like shit then blame them for looking like shit after they've been treated like shit.
The Nazis herded Jews into gettos and then made movies of the overcrowding and said "look how these Jews live in overcrowded conditions".
The thing about Adams is I don't think he was capable of creating something ugly.
I think Haloscan is actually going in *reverse* now...
I think Haloscan is actually going in *reverse* now...
Well, the ghettoes were residential areas, so it was possible to maintain the fiction that the Jews had always lived there, and chose to live that way. But when you have people in *camps*, you can't deny that the government placed them there.
So yes, I think if the pictures showed the internees looking miserable or listless, there's at least a chance that some compassionate souls would see that and think, "My God, what are we doing? They're people, just like us, how can we treat them like that?" I'm not entirely sure if 1940s Americans were capable of thinking that way, though. Hell, I'm not even sure 2000s Americans are.
Well, the ghettoes were residential areas, so it was possible to maintain the fiction that the Jews had always lived there, and chose to live that way. But when you have people in *camps*, you can't deny that the government placed them there.
So yes, I think if the pictures showed the internees looking miserable or listless, there's at least a chance that some compassionate souls would see that and think, "My God, what are we doing? They're people, just like us, how can we treat them like that?" I'm not entirely sure if 1940s Americans were capable of thinking that way, though. Hell, I'm not even sure 2000s Americans are.
Are you familiar with this one?
Are you familiar with this one?
"My God, what are we doing? They're people, just like us, how can we treat them like that?"
Do you appeal to people's sense of patronizing compassion or to their sense of what's right and wrong.
Isn't it possible that those passively racicst people would see those photos of the Japanese internees and say "HOW DARE THE GOVERNMENT KEEP THOSE PEOPLE IN PRISON!!!"
Wouldn't that be better than "Oh how sorry I feel for those poor abused peole?"
"My God, what are we doing? They're people, just like us, how can we treat them like that?"
Do you appeal to people's sense of patronizing compassion or to their sense of what's right and wrong.
Isn't it possible that those passively racicst people would see those photos of the Japanese internees and say "HOW DARE THE GOVERNMENT KEEP THOSE PEOPLE IN PRISON!!!"
Wouldn't that be better than "Oh how sorry I feel for those poor abused peole?"
I *think* so. I've seen a lot of Ansel Adams, and a lot of Edward Weston (one assignment was to write a paper about, and take pictures in the style of, some great photographer, and he was my pick - I believe the leaf-on-the-snow picture came from that assignment).
Lots of others too, but I think they're my favorites, probably because I'm not primarily a people photographer.
I *think* so. I've seen a lot of Ansel Adams, and a lot of Edward Weston (one assignment was to write a paper about, and take pictures in the style of, some great photographer, and he was my pick - I believe the leaf-on-the-snow picture came from that assignment).
Lots of others too, but I think they're my favorites, probably because I'm not primarily a people photographer.
I've always like Joseph Koudelka.
I've always like Joseph Koudelka.
I don't think humanity/dignity and unhappiness are mutually exclusive. I don't think you're forced to show one or the other, but not both.
Suffering is human too, and it can be borne gracefully.
I don't think humanity/dignity and unhappiness are mutually exclusive. I don't think you're forced to show one or the other, but not both.
Suffering is human too, and it can be borne gracefully.
Wow. Pretty fucking intense.
Ever heard of a photographer named Stephen Scheer? He taught the one photo class I taught in college. He liked complex composition, low contrast, and photos with people in them - it's a miracle I ever picked up a camera ever again...
Wow. Pretty fucking intense.
Ever heard of a photographer named Stephen Scheer? He taught the one photo class I taught in college. He liked complex composition, low contrast, and photos with people in them - it's a miracle I ever picked up a camera ever again...
...*took* in college...
Probably just about time to go to sleep...
...*took* in college...
Probably just about time to go to sleep...
Ever heard of a photographer named Stephen Scheer
No. I'll have to look him up.
Ever heard of a photographer named Stephen Scheer
No. I'll have to look him up.
He's not bad. When he showed us some of his stuff, I realized I actually had a photo book with him in it.
He was just the exact opposite of me, and didn't seem to have any concept that his way was not the only way. I adapted (that's why there are so many people in my college shots), but I didn't have much fun, and my confidence was pretty shaken, especially when he reamed my first batch of photos, which I was pretty pleased with.
He's not bad. When he showed us some of his stuff, I realized I actually had a photo book with him in it.
He was just the exact opposite of me, and didn't seem to have any concept that his way was not the only way. I adapted (that's why there are so many people in my college shots), but I didn't have much fun, and my confidence was pretty shaken, especially when he reamed my first batch of photos, which I was pretty pleased with.
He was just the exact opposite of me, and didn't seem to have any concept that his way was not the only way. I adapted (that's why there are so many people in my college shots), but I didn't have much fun, and my confidence was pretty shaken, especially when he reamed my first batch of photos, which I was pretty pleased with.
You might like this guy.
He was just the exact opposite of me, and didn't seem to have any concept that his way was not the only way. I adapted (that's why there are so many people in my college shots), but I didn't have much fun, and my confidence was pretty shaken, especially when he reamed my first batch of photos, which I was pretty pleased with.
You might like this guy.
Yep, definitely more my speed. I didn't have the sexy models, tho. Well, okay, there were a few in high school, but they were fully clothed, and mostly head shots... Maybe I'll scan them one day.
Yep, definitely more my speed. I didn't have the sexy models, tho. Well, okay, there were a few in high school, but they were fully clothed, and mostly head shots... Maybe I'll scan them one day.
Okay, definitely time to call it a night.
Cheers! It's not often I get to talk photography, I think I'm starting to get the itch again...
Okay, definitely time to call it a night.
Cheers! It's not often I get to talk photography, I think I'm starting to get the itch again...
I came across a Reuters news story just a little while ago. It's entitled, "US Said to Mull Lifetime Terror-Suspect Detentions," and details how the DoD is contemplating building a new 200-bed prison "to hold detainees who are unlikely to ever go through a military tribunal for lack of evidence" and how the detention may be for life.
Wake up, everybody, and smell the shit. It's just hit the fan.
http://www.reuters.com/
newsArtic...storyID=7217367
I came across a Reuters news story just a little while ago. It's entitled, "US Said to Mull Lifetime Terror-Suspect Detentions," and details how the DoD is contemplating building a new 200-bed prison "to hold detainees who are unlikely to ever go through a military tribunal for lack of evidence" and how the detention may be for life.
Wake up, everybody, and smell the shit. It's just hit the fan.
http://www.reuters.com/
newsArtic...storyID=7217367
Fresh Blood on the Tracks of Hopelessness:
"Most Americans are still ambivalent about our Child Preznut. A recent CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll showed him with a 49% job approval rating - a wretched crazy train leading toward a slow-burning political death if you are a student of history - but even his closest advisors are getting worried less than a month after he declared that he had a mandate and intended to expend the political capital granted by his re-election, which since that time has amounted to little more than four weeks in the village stocks getting pelted by rotten fruit and rocks."
Fresh Blood on the Tracks of Hopelessness:
"Most Americans are still ambivalent about our Child Preznut. A recent CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll showed him with a 49% job approval rating - a wretched crazy train leading toward a slow-burning political death if you are a student of history - but even his closest advisors are getting worried less than a month after he declared that he had a mandate and intended to expend the political capital granted by his re-election, which since that time has amounted to little more than four weeks in the village stocks getting pelted by rotten fruit and rocks."
Oh wah.. the liberals are the number one defenders of terrorists.
Face it, the terrorists we have should be executed.
If we released those terrorists, then they'd probably commit a terrorist act and then you whiners would blame it on Bush for releasing them.
Oh wah.. the liberals are the number one defenders of terrorists.
Face it, the terrorists we have should be executed.
If we released those terrorists, then they'd probably commit a terrorist act and then you whiners would blame it on Bush for releasing them.
Number one defenders of terrorists? Not really. If you can prove someone is a terrorist, I'm all for punishment.
Liberals tend to care much more about civil rights and civil liberties, however.
And holding "suspected terrorists" without adequate evidence, possibly for life, constitutes a violation of their civil rights. They may not be guaranteed by the US Constitution, as that applies soleley to US citizens, but I believe that US citizens aren't any better, or any worse, than any other group of people in the world. If our Constitution guarantees protection for us, I believe that protection should be extended to other groups of people whenever possible.
Number one defenders of terrorists? Not really. If you can prove someone is a terrorist, I'm all for punishment.
Liberals tend to care much more about civil rights and civil liberties, however.
And holding "suspected terrorists" without adequate evidence, possibly for life, constitutes a violation of their civil rights. They may not be guaranteed by the US Constitution, as that applies soleley to US citizens, but I believe that US citizens aren't any better, or any worse, than any other group of people in the world. If our Constitution guarantees protection for us, I believe that protection should be extended to other groups of people whenever possible.
I seem to have attracted the attention of a wing nut from a post I made at Pandagon using my email address. Has this happened to anyone else? How did you handle it? He seems to think I dreamed up Chicken George's courageous running away on 9/11. He hasn't gotten real crazy yet, no threats and insults at a minimum.
I seem to have attracted the attention of a wing nut from a post I made at Pandagon using my email address. Has this happened to anyone else? How did you handle it? He seems to think I dreamed up Chicken George's courageous running away on 9/11. He hasn't gotten real crazy yet, no threats and insults at a minimum.
Big dog Bill Clinton has Tilman Riemannschneider hands. Me too!
Big dog Bill Clinton has Tilman Riemannschneider hands. Me too!
how can anyone be sleeping when social security is in crisis-mode? (wink)
how can anyone be sleeping when social security is in crisis-mode? (wink)
IT'S MOONING IN AMERICA!
IT'S MOONING IN AMERICA!
came across a Reuters news story just a little while ago. It's entitled, "US Said
to Mull Lifetime Terror-Suspect Detentions," and details how the DoD is
contemplating building a new 200-bed prison "to hold detainees who are
unlikely to ever go through a military tribunal for lack of evidence" and how the
detention may be for life.
Wake up, everybody, and smell the shit. It's just hit the fan.
http://www.reuters.com/
newsArtic...storyID=7217367
Jesse | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 4:27 am | #
Jesus H. Christ.
Sorry, that's the best I can do in
the face of this.
came across a Reuters news story just a little while ago. It's entitled, "US Said
to Mull Lifetime Terror-Suspect Detentions," and details how the DoD is
contemplating building a new 200-bed prison "to hold detainees who are
unlikely to ever go through a military tribunal for lack of evidence" and how the
detention may be for life.
Wake up, everybody, and smell the shit. It's just hit the fan.
http://www.reuters.com/
newsArtic...storyID=7217367
Jesse | Email | Homepage | 01.02.05 - 4:27 am | #
Jesus H. Christ.
Sorry, that's the best I can do in
the face of this.
Morning, all.
Elaine I saw your letter that got published on the last thread, nice work.
Jesse, that is a very scary article.
It has NO moral dimension. Sort of like those artichokes. And did you notice they said this idea originated in the STATE DEPT!
Morning, all.
Elaine I saw your letter that got published on the last thread, nice work.
Jesse, that is a very scary article.
It has NO moral dimension. Sort of like those artichokes. And did you notice they said this idea originated in the STATE DEPT!
Jayzus, Jesse. SIBAS -- Standard Issue BushCo Appalling Shit.
Steve -- on a considerably lighter note, did you see Stranger's post at 11:41 pm?
Jayzus, Jesse. SIBAS -- Standard Issue BushCo Appalling Shit.
Steve -- on a considerably lighter note, did you see Stranger's post at 11:41 pm?
filkertom:
nope.....
filkertom:
nope.....
filkertom:
Sorry, just backtracked and found it.
Can't get it to play, but I
appreciate the sentiment.
Thanks, stranger!!!!
filkertom:
Sorry, just backtracked and found it.
Can't get it to play, but I
appreciate the sentiment.
Thanks, stranger!!!!
I remember quotes concering indefinite detention without trial in the article at WaPo on the extraordianry rendition amendment.
The Busheviks want the authority to lock people away without trial, because they have no evidence that these people are terrorists. But the Busheviks (and by our troll Trevor's comments) hate the United States and the United States Constitution, which some of them have sworn an oath to uphold. (This of course violates the 6th Amendment of the Constitution.)
I remember quotes concering indefinite detention without trial in the article at WaPo on the extraordianry rendition amendment.
The Busheviks want the authority to lock people away without trial, because they have no evidence that these people are terrorists. But the Busheviks (and by our troll Trevor's comments) hate the United States and the United States Constitution, which some of them have sworn an oath to uphold. (This of course violates the 6th Amendment of the Constitution.)
My first day of the new year and it already sucks.
My first day of the new year and it already sucks.
Tom-what extraordinary rendition amendment? I've been out of town.