I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
But...but...it's the Wall Street Journal! How could they be so sloppy and unethical?
But...but...it's the Wall Street Journal! How could they be so sloppy and unethical?
Liberal Media?
yeah right.
Liberal Media?
yeah right.
Head, meet chopping block.
Head, meet chopping block.
Good for her, and props to Jeanne Cummings for not covering for her colleagues.
In other Paige-ola news, have you all seen the response to the Williams thing from Ketchum?
Good for her, and props to Jeanne Cummings for not covering for her colleagues.
In other Paige-ola news, have you all seen the response to the Williams thing from Ketchum?
You know all of this is calculated to take the heat off the administration for paying Armstrong and putting oiut other propaganda. This is the best they can do.
God, I hate these fuckers.
You know all of this is calculated to take the heat off the administration for paying Armstrong and putting oiut other propaganda. This is the best they can do.
God, I hate these fuckers.
And at the end of the day . . . the president used YOUR tax dollars to pay an undisclosed fee to a media figure for the purpose of influencing public opinion.
That's it, folks.
And at the end of the day . . . the president used YOUR tax dollars to pay an undisclosed fee to a media figure for the purpose of influencing public opinion.
That's it, folks.
So there will be a correction in the W$J right? There will be an independent investigation of how these lies got published right? The reporters who made shit up will get fired right?
So there will be a correction in the W$J right? There will be an independent investigation of how these lies got published right? The reporters who made shit up will get fired right?
Perhaps the term should not be "dead story", but instead "zombie story", since it continues shambling along despite the fact that it's dead.
I don't know about any of you, but I'm pouring a line of salt around my computer to keep it out.
Perhaps the term should not be "dead story", but instead "zombie story", since it continues shambling along despite the fact that it's dead.
I don't know about any of you, but I'm pouring a line of salt around my computer to keep it out.
Why do I trust Jeanne Cummings? Is she going to make this right?
Why do I trust Jeanne Cummings? Is she going to make this right?
and a hearty "fuck you" to the bastards for continuing to pimp this.
and a hearty "fuck you" to the bastards for continuing to pimp this.
Okay, now, what can those of us who hang around these blogs do to help?
Okay, now, what can those of us who hang around these blogs do to help?
Thus Spoke Zethyrthrusta's ass.
Thus Spoke Zethyrthrusta's ass.
So when does Paul Begala go on the air with a breathless story on the "made up" quotes in the Journal?
For that matter, when does one of the brownshirt gab fests actually book Kos or Armstrong and interview them "live"?
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So when does Paul Begala go on the air with a breathless story on the "made up" quotes in the Journal?
For that matter, when does one of the brownshirt gab fests actually book Kos or Armstrong and interview them "live"?
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So they totally made shit up, Carl-Cameron-style?
Why does this not surprise me?
We can use this, people.
Write letters to the editor explaining how at least the CBS memos were used in good faith (as even Republican Dick Thornburgh admits!), but FOX and the WSJ lie without consequence, as Vince Foster wrote.
So they totally made shit up, Carl-Cameron-style?
Why does this not surprise me?
We can use this, people.
Write letters to the editor explaining how at least the CBS memos were used in good faith (as even Republican Dick Thornburgh admits!), but FOX and the WSJ lie without consequence, as Vince Foster wrote.
So when does Paul Begala go on the air with a breathless story on the "made up" quotes in the Journal?
Anyone got his contact info?
MAKE him do it!
So when does Paul Begala go on the air with a breathless story on the "made up" quotes in the Journal?
Anyone got his contact info?
MAKE him do it!
This is a bullshit distraction getting people off the war and ss
This is a bullshit distraction getting people off the war and ss
Hey, can anybody here say "FOX NEWS CHANNEL"?
That's all you have to say in the face of this. A totally partisan, rich-conservative-elite run, ultra-conservative propaganda machine operating right here in America, on a cable channel that almost everyone gets!
That's Nazism. That's demagoguery. That's fascism. This machine is in cahoots with the GOP, it works for them.
There should be laws against one party running away with an entire TV channel.
Hey, can anybody here say "FOX NEWS CHANNEL"?
That's all you have to say in the face of this. A totally partisan, rich-conservative-elite run, ultra-conservative propaganda machine operating right here in America, on a cable channel that almost everyone gets!
That's Nazism. That's demagoguery. That's fascism. This machine is in cahoots with the GOP, it works for them.
There should be laws against one party running away with an entire TV channel.
No journalist with any integrity would be writing about these things in the same story.
Which explains why the story is still "alive". The ethically challenged scum is pumping it, to include the two colleagues who have earned spots in the Duck Pit.
No journalist with any integrity would be writing about these things in the same story.
Which explains why the story is still "alive". The ethically challenged scum is pumping it, to include the two colleagues who have earned spots in the Duck Pit.
woowoo!
woowoo!
Okay, now, what can those of us who hang around these blogs do to help?
Well, I just sent a link to the post to Bill Grueskin, managing editor at the WSJ, along with a demand for disciplinary action against the reporters and a prominent apology to Kos and Jerome.
Not that they'll do anything about it, but it made me feel better.
Okay, now, what can those of us who hang around these blogs do to help?
Well, I just sent a link to the post to Bill Grueskin, managing editor at the WSJ, along with a demand for disciplinary action against the reporters and a prominent apology to Kos and Jerome.
Not that they'll do anything about it, but it made me feel better.
I really do think that KOS and Jerome should sue, especially Hugh Hewitt and O'Reilly, or at least threaten to, in order to make their smarmy asses apologize and retract their statements.
This obviously makes it clear that the WSJ should be as well.
Oh, and Zethyr, YOU'RE DEAD TO US, DEAD!
I really do think that KOS and Jerome should sue, especially Hugh Hewitt and O'Reilly, or at least threaten to, in order to make their smarmy asses apologize and retract their statements.
This obviously makes it clear that the WSJ should be as well.
Oh, and Zethyr, YOU'RE DEAD TO US, DEAD!
Hmmm...
Hmmm...
Unfortunately she is trying to combat framing with narrative and since most people have the attention span of peanut butter, it won't work.
Unfortunately she is trying to combat framing with narrative and since most people have the attention span of peanut butter, it won't work.
I like the whole concept of the WSJ lying to accuse the blogs of being unethical. Its nice to know irony is not dead afterall.
I like the whole concept of the WSJ lying to accuse the blogs of being unethical. Its nice to know irony is not dead afterall.
Oh shit! The department of ed website and nochildleftbehind.com are down for scheduled maintenance today! What are they scrubbing????
Oh shit! The department of ed website and nochildleftbehind.com are down for scheduled maintenance today! What are they scrubbing????
Yeah, well that's all cute, but you got Dean's ex internet honcho Zephyr Teachout saying they paid Kos and Jerome in the hope they's write nice stories about the Tasmanian devil from Vermont. The problem is not the MSM or right wing bloggers. the problem is Zephyr. If she's right. Dean has a problem. If she's wrong, she has a problem. Kos has no problem. He did the right thing.
The New Democrat
Yeah, well that's all cute, but you got Dean's ex internet honcho Zephyr Teachout saying they paid Kos and Jerome in the hope they's write nice stories about the Tasmanian devil from Vermont. The problem is not the MSM or right wing bloggers. the problem is Zephyr. If she's right. Dean has a problem. If she's wrong, she has a problem. Kos has no problem. He did the right thing.
The New Democrat
Atrios,
Great find. For more exasperation on this topic see Poor Richard's Almanac:
How Many Ways Can You Spell Ludicrous?
http://poorrichardsalmanac.blogspot.com
Atrios,
Great find. For more exasperation on this topic see Poor Richard's Almanac:
How Many Ways Can You Spell Ludicrous?
http://poorrichardsalmanac.blogspot.com
The Big Lie works. Never more than now. As its purveyors know, once the mythology is this massive it's impossible to refute . Theopposition is impotent, having no forum of consequence. Question: How do we break out of our echo chamber to counter the lies with no media, no discernible political party, no leadership, no plan, no focus, no power?
The Big Lie works. Never more than now. As its purveyors know, once the mythology is this massive it's impossible to refute . Theopposition is impotent, having no forum of consequence. Question: How do we break out of our echo chamber to counter the lies with no media, no discernible political party, no leadership, no plan, no focus, no power?
Usually, the reality-twisting is a little less obvious after the election.
This time it's onging -- any hint emerging of reality (the payola by the administration) is going to be buried in a storm of distraction, fiction and bullshit.
Usually, the reality-twisting is a little less obvious after the election.
This time it's onging -- any hint emerging of reality (the payola by the administration) is going to be buried in a storm of distraction, fiction and bullshit.
Jesus Ricky - did you even read the fricking post?
Zephyr made shit up.
Jesus Ricky - did you even read the fricking post?
Zephyr made shit up.
Boy oh boy, I can't wait until Howie exposes this shit tomorrow. That's going to be good, right?
Boy oh boy, I can't wait until Howie exposes this shit tomorrow. That's going to be good, right?
How much does Fox pay people to appear on? Are the publishers which back these guest in any way associated with other facest of Murdoch?
Have any of the guest on Fox recieved favors to family emmbers inr eturn for their candor?
Enquiring minds want to know(tm).
They have made our nation a tabloid, it started with the Clenis(tm) witch-hunt.
How much does Fox pay people to appear on? Are the publishers which back these guest in any way associated with other facest of Murdoch?
Have any of the guest on Fox recieved favors to family emmbers inr eturn for their candor?
Enquiring minds want to know(tm).
They have made our nation a tabloid, it started with the Clenis(tm) witch-hunt.
Boy oh boy, I can't wait until Howie exposes this shit tomorrow. That's going to be good, right?
Not nearly as good as the pearls of wisdom that'll be droppin' from Pumpkinhead's lips.
Boy oh boy, I can't wait until Howie exposes this shit tomorrow. That's going to be good, right?
Not nearly as good as the pearls of wisdom that'll be droppin' from Pumpkinhead's lips.
if you want to talk propaganda, check out the NYT article today on admin's push to privatize SS. read the whole thing.
the lies the GOP is putting out on this through the hacks they've installed in SS- incredible.
if you want to talk propaganda, check out the NYT article today on admin's push to privatize SS. read the whole thing.
the lies the GOP is putting out on this through the hacks they've installed in SS- incredible.
It's called Journalgate people. Journalgate.
It's called Journalgate people. Journalgate.
here it is- lies being financed w/ SS trust fund money!
From NYT (reporting that Social Security Administration- they don't say 'Bush hacks'!- are pushing Bush's propaganda campaign):
Social Security officials say the agency is carrying out its mission to educate the public, including more than 47 million beneficiaries, and to support the agenda of President Bush.
But agency employees have complained to Social Security officials that they are being conscripted into a political battle over the future of the program. They question the accuracy of recent statements by the agency, and they say that money from the Social Security trust fund should not be used for such advocacy.
"Trust fund dollars should not be used to promote a political agenda," said Dana C. Duggins, a vice president of the Social Security Council of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 50,000 of the agency's 64,000 workers and has opposed private accounts.
but that's just the beginning- read the whole article for the incredible lies, being finance with SS trust fund money.
here it is- lies being financed w/ SS trust fund money!
From NYT (reporting that Social Security Administration- they don't say 'Bush hacks'!- are pushing Bush's propaganda campaign):
Social Security officials say the agency is carrying out its mission to educate the public, including more than 47 million beneficiaries, and to support the agenda of President Bush.
But agency employees have complained to Social Security officials that they are being conscripted into a political battle over the future of the program. They question the accuracy of recent statements by the agency, and they say that money from the Social Security trust fund should not be used for such advocacy.
"Trust fund dollars should not be used to promote a political agenda," said Dana C. Duggins, a vice president of the Social Security Council of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 50,000 of the agency's 64,000 workers and has opposed private accounts.
but that's just the beginning- read the whole article for the incredible lies, being finance with SS trust fund money.
Jesus Ricky - did you even read the fricking post?
That's a rhetorical question, I assume?
Jesus Ricky - did you even read the fricking post?
That's a rhetorical question, I assume?
So it was not even Zephyr(made up name's) job? And she uses a character identity? Her name is a plagiarism?
The WSJ , frontrunner for the Judy Miller award.
Did Kos get paid to lie? Judy did.
By the way, screenshots of DoE website would be nice, you can google search entire Dept. of Bushco phrases out and find them used ad hoc across the board.
They keep talking points consistent. Remember Bush the consistent pResident.
So it was not even Zephyr(made up name's) job? And she uses a character identity? Her name is a plagiarism?
The WSJ , frontrunner for the Judy Miller award.
Did Kos get paid to lie? Judy did.
By the way, screenshots of DoE website would be nice, you can google search entire Dept. of Bushco phrases out and find them used ad hoc across the board.
They keep talking points consistent. Remember Bush the consistent pResident.
Swan - but that's just the beginning- read the whole article for the incredible lies, being finance with SS trust fund money.
Why isn't this completely illegal?
Swan - but that's just the beginning- read the whole article for the incredible lies, being finance with SS trust fund money.
Why isn't this completely illegal?
This could be a scoop for Dan Rather!
This could be a scoop for Dan Rather!
That's a rhetorical question, I assume?
Well, yeah. But, y'know, sometimes you just gotta try.
That's a rhetorical question, I assume?
Well, yeah. But, y'know, sometimes you just gotta try.
Yeah, well that's all cute, but you got Dean's ex internet honcho Zephyr Teachout saying they paid Kos and Jerome in the hope they's write nice stories about the Tasmanian devil from Vermont. The problem is not the MSM or right wing bloggers. the problem is Zephyr. If she's right. Dean has a problem.
Bullshit. It's common practice to hire opinion-shapers for your campaign. Everyone does it. In fact, according to my old ethics professor at GWU's Graduate School Of Political Management, it's the thical thing for a campaign manager to do. If they'd didn't try to hire opinion-shapers, they'd be doing their candidate a disservice.
The problem lies with the opinion shapers. It's up to them to disclose if they are being paid. Kos and Jerome did this. They didn't try to hide it. I knew about it and I seldom read theor blogs.
Tell us the truth now. You hate Dean, and you want to use this as a club to beat him.
Yeah, well that's all cute, but you got Dean's ex internet honcho Zephyr Teachout saying they paid Kos and Jerome in the hope they's write nice stories about the Tasmanian devil from Vermont. The problem is not the MSM or right wing bloggers. the problem is Zephyr. If she's right. Dean has a problem.
Bullshit. It's common practice to hire opinion-shapers for your campaign. Everyone does it. In fact, according to my old ethics professor at GWU's Graduate School Of Political Management, it's the thical thing for a campaign manager to do. If they'd didn't try to hire opinion-shapers, they'd be doing their candidate a disservice.
The problem lies with the opinion shapers. It's up to them to disclose if they are being paid. Kos and Jerome did this. They didn't try to hide it. I knew about it and I seldom read theor blogs.
Tell us the truth now. You hate Dean, and you want to use this as a club to beat him.
Laura needs to open her eyes. Her buddy Jeanne just screwed her over but good, and will continue to do so in the future if Laura stands for it.
Laura seems to be under the impression that Jeanne is a nice person, completely overlooking the fact that nice people don't work for the Wall Street Journal. I'd be willing to bet that Jeanne and her colleagues are still laughing at how easy it was to sell Laura the "I just can't imagine how this happened!" routine.
Laura needs to open her eyes. Her buddy Jeanne just screwed her over but good, and will continue to do so in the future if Laura stands for it.
Laura seems to be under the impression that Jeanne is a nice person, completely overlooking the fact that nice people don't work for the Wall Street Journal. I'd be willing to bet that Jeanne and her colleagues are still laughing at how easy it was to sell Laura the "I just can't imagine how this happened!" routine.
tena- word.
but a law's only as good as it gets people to behave, right? otherwise it's just some ink on some paper.
think about this- Even if there was proof that came out that the election was bogus and that Kerry won, I don't think Bush would hand it over now. A coup, plain and simple. Fox et al. would provide the obfuscation campaign. Simply a coup. and if they could'nt be stopped, then they couldn't be stopped, period.
tena- word.
but a law's only as good as it gets people to behave, right? otherwise it's just some ink on some paper.
think about this- Even if there was proof that came out that the election was bogus and that Kerry won, I don't think Bush would hand it over now. A coup, plain and simple. Fox et al. would provide the obfuscation campaign. Simply a coup. and if they could'nt be stopped, then they couldn't be stopped, period.
Good morning from the Left coast. I DO SO ENJOY coming here to read your replies and posts (and snooping in your websites!). This bright literate bunch adds to the joy of rainy morning coffee.
Good morning from the Left coast. I DO SO ENJOY coming here to read your replies and posts (and snooping in your websites!). This bright literate bunch adds to the joy of rainy morning coffee.
Oh, I didn't realize it was Ricky. I'm sorry for wasting bandwidth by replying to that fucking idiot.
Oh, I didn't realize it was Ricky. I'm sorry for wasting bandwidth by replying to that fucking idiot.
Update by Kos: The WSJ needs to admit they wrote a shitty story and retract it. I want nothing less.
James Bandler
Co-author of the piece
james.bandler@wsj.com
Bill Bulkeley
Co-author of the piece
Bill.Bulkeley@wsj.com
Jeanne Cummings (thank her)
Co-author of the piece
jeanne.cummings@wsj.com
Melinda Beck
Marketplace editor, where the piece ran
melinda.beck@wsj.com
Bill Grueskin
Managing Editor
b.grueskin@wsj.com
Jamie Heller
Deputy Managing Editor
j.heller@wsj.com
Terri Cullen
Assistant Managing Editor
t.cullen@wsj.com
Dave Pettit
Deputy Managing Editor
dave.pettit@wsj.com
Jason Fry
Assistant Managing Editor
j.fry@wsj.com
Update by Kos: The WSJ needs to admit they wrote a shitty story and retract it. I want nothing less.
James Bandler
Co-author of the piece
james.bandler@wsj.com
Bill Bulkeley
Co-author of the piece
Bill.Bulkeley@wsj.com
Jeanne Cummings (thank her)
Co-author of the piece
jeanne.cummings@wsj.com
Melinda Beck
Marketplace editor, where the piece ran
melinda.beck@wsj.com
Bill Grueskin
Managing Editor
b.grueskin@wsj.com
Jamie Heller
Deputy Managing Editor
j.heller@wsj.com
Terri Cullen
Assistant Managing Editor
t.cullen@wsj.com
Dave Pettit
Deputy Managing Editor
dave.pettit@wsj.com
Jason Fry
Assistant Managing Editor
j.fry@wsj.com
Patriotboy, don't make this personal by being simple minded. This isn't about Dean at all. It's a calculated effort by the VRWC to protect Bush and Williams by confusing the issue and giving liberals a stake in it disappearing from the public, before someone starts asking questions like "What is more deserving about impeachment, lying about sex, or lying about stealing taxpayer money for political campaigns?"
Patriotboy, don't make this personal by being simple minded. This isn't about Dean at all. It's a calculated effort by the VRWC to protect Bush and Williams by confusing the issue and giving liberals a stake in it disappearing from the public, before someone starts asking questions like "What is more deserving about impeachment, lying about sex, or lying about stealing taxpayer money for political campaigns?"
alrighty- I'm out for now, crew. Gotta go study. Have a nice day, all.
alrighty- I'm out for now, crew. Gotta go study. Have a nice day, all.
Christ, when will someone in the mainstream media run a HUGE story about how the Wurlitzer works?
This is a wonderful opportunity for that. The Armstrong Williams payola story puts an essential part of the Wurlitzer M.O. in the public eye. How does the Wurlitzer respond? Misdirection, false equivalency, blah blah blah...
Since Jerome Armstrong shares a proper name with the exposed right wing pundit, how long before things are muddied enough that lots of people think HE'S the one who got public money.....
Would someone please interview everyone at the WSJ who created this story?
Seeing The Forest must be all over this. Check em out.
Christ, when will someone in the mainstream media run a HUGE story about how the Wurlitzer works?
This is a wonderful opportunity for that. The Armstrong Williams payola story puts an essential part of the Wurlitzer M.O. in the public eye. How does the Wurlitzer respond? Misdirection, false equivalency, blah blah blah...
Since Jerome Armstrong shares a proper name with the exposed right wing pundit, how long before things are muddied enough that lots of people think HE'S the one who got public money.....
Would someone please interview everyone at the WSJ who created this story?
Seeing The Forest must be all over this. Check em out.
Swan - I agree that any law that isn't enforced is useless. That's one reason I often ridicule suggestions for things that on the face of it look good, but are really unenforcable, like a "code of ethics" for bloggers.
But in this instance, I'm just kind of idly wondering how many more laws the Repugs will be allowed to break and get away with it. It makes no sense.
And the really bad thing about it is that we have no recourse at all. Governments have statutory immunity from liability for governmental decisions, so we can't sue them. More's the pity, because I sure wish we could.
Swan - I agree that any law that isn't enforced is useless. That's one reason I often ridicule suggestions for things that on the face of it look good, but are really unenforcable, like a "code of ethics" for bloggers.
But in this instance, I'm just kind of idly wondering how many more laws the Repugs will be allowed to break and get away with it. It makes no sense.
And the really bad thing about it is that we have no recourse at all. Governments have statutory immunity from liability for governmental decisions, so we can't sue them. More's the pity, because I sure wish we could.
Journalistic Ethics
Maybe there should be a conference or sumthin.
Tucker Carlson to Jon Stewart: "Maybe you should start a journalism school."
Jon Stewart to Tucker Carlson: "Maybe you should go to one."
Journalistic Ethics
Maybe there should be a conference or sumthin.
Tucker Carlson to Jon Stewart: "Maybe you should start a journalism school."
Jon Stewart to Tucker Carlson: "Maybe you should go to one."
Scott Robinson the female kicker at the RNC was a blogger....
Scott Robinson the female kicker at the RNC was a blogger....
Justin - I said the same thing in an earlier comment -- scroll up.
I was merely replying to Ricky's assinine sugestion that if Dean hired Kos and Jerome in the hopes they'd write good things about him, then Dean has a problem. That's bullshit.
I fully understand the big picture, and I resent being called "simple-minded."
Justin - I said the same thing in an earlier comment -- scroll up.
I was merely replying to Ricky's assinine sugestion that if Dean hired Kos and Jerome in the hopes they'd write good things about him, then Dean has a problem. That's bullshit.
I fully understand the big picture, and I resent being called "simple-minded."
"This isn't about Dean at all. It's a calculated effort by the VRWC to protect Bush and Williams by confusing the issue and giving liberals a stake in it disappearing from the public..."
It seems to me that the WSJ article is useful on many levels: neutralizes the Williams' scandal, destroys Dean's candidacy, smears bloggers, makes liberals look hypocritical.
"This isn't about Dean at all. It's a calculated effort by the VRWC to protect Bush and Williams by confusing the issue and giving liberals a stake in it disappearing from the public..."
It seems to me that the WSJ article is useful on many levels: neutralizes the Williams' scandal, destroys Dean's candidacy, smears bloggers, makes liberals look hypocritical.
The toothpaste is out of the tube. All of the explanations, no matter how reasonable, will not work. Either Kos sues the WSJ, or they win.
The toothpaste is out of the tube. All of the explanations, no matter how reasonable, will not work. Either Kos sues the WSJ, or they win.
Nothing like a breath of fresh air.
Speaking of oxygen, this should set jonah's hair (and the cross he bears) on fire.
Nothing like a breath of fresh air.
Speaking of oxygen, this should set jonah's hair (and the cross he bears) on fire.
OT,
Graner Blames Superiors in Abuse Case
Army Spc. Charles Graner Jr., the suspected ringleader of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse, took the stand for the first time Saturday and said he was ordered by interrogators to abuse detainees.
Not that anyone seems to care about this anymore.
Oh well, it was just a few bad apples, right?
OT,
Graner Blames Superiors in Abuse Case
Army Spc. Charles Graner Jr., the suspected ringleader of the Abu Ghraib prison abuse, took the stand for the first time Saturday and said he was ordered by interrogators to abuse detainees.
Not that anyone seems to care about this anymore.
Oh well, it was just a few bad apples, right?
Things are getting pretty ugly,and the coronation has'nt even come yet.How are we (I) to deal with the next 1400 days?Am I to fold up shop and hide under a rock?Are there no alternatives or options in this fight that is taking place in the region of out of bounds?
I feel insignificant.
.
Things are getting pretty ugly,and the coronation has'nt even come yet.How are we (I) to deal with the next 1400 days?Am I to fold up shop and hide under a rock?Are there no alternatives or options in this fight that is taking place in the region of out of bounds?
I feel insignificant.
.
You know what's nice about Laura Gross' report about her conversation with Jeanne Cummings?
Cummings confirms that the WSJ was in possession of the facts, yet made a conscious decision to smear Kos and Jerome Armstrong.
And good golly - isn't that typically the hardest hurdle to overcome in a libel case?
You know what's nice about Laura Gross' report about her conversation with Jeanne Cummings?
Cummings confirms that the WSJ was in possession of the facts, yet made a conscious decision to smear Kos and Jerome Armstrong.
And good golly - isn't that typically the hardest hurdle to overcome in a libel case?
OT -
Alan Keyes called lesbians -- like Mary Cheney -- "selfish hedonists."
Now Bobo would add women without kids to that category:
This is not necessarily the sequence she would choose if she were starting from scratch. For example, it might make more sense to go to college, make a greater effort to marry early and have children. Then, if she, rather than her spouse, wants to stay home, she could raise children from age 25 to 35. Then at 35 (now that she knows herself better) she could select a flexible graduate program specifically designed for parents. Then she could work in one uninterrupted stint from, say, 40 to 70.
This option would allow her to raise kids during her most fertile years and work during her mature ones, and the trade-off between family and career might be less onerous.
Gotta love that Republican projection. By their thinking, anyone opposed to this agenda is a "selfish hedonist." While the rePigs strain at their trough of wealth-slop, snorting and gurgling with the effort to consume, they humbly ask the rest of us to sacrifice. Women must breed, for the sake of the race! Brown people and poor people need to do more to pull their own weight; fighting our wars and paying more taxes is the least they can do.
Naturally, bloggers who say otherwise hurt America, and must be exposed for the hypocrites they are.
OT -
Alan Keyes called lesbians -- like Mary Cheney -- "selfish hedonists."
Now Bobo would add women without kids to that category:
This is not necessarily the sequence she would choose if she were starting from scratch. For example, it might make more sense to go to college, make a greater effort to marry early and have children. Then, if she, rather than her spouse, wants to stay home, she could raise children from age 25 to 35. Then at 35 (now that she knows herself better) she could select a flexible graduate program specifically designed for parents. Then she could work in one uninterrupted stint from, say, 40 to 70.
This option would allow her to raise kids during her most fertile years and work during her mature ones, and the trade-off between family and career might be less onerous.
Gotta love that Republican projection. By their thinking, anyone opposed to this agenda is a "selfish hedonist." While the rePigs strain at their trough of wealth-slop, snorting and gurgling with the effort to consume, they humbly ask the rest of us to sacrifice. Women must breed, for the sake of the race! Brown people and poor people need to do more to pull their own weight; fighting our wars and paying more taxes is the least they can do.
Naturally, bloggers who say otherwise hurt America, and must be exposed for the hypocrites they are.
I wrote to the reporters of that story yesterday telling them what a lame non-story they wrote about and today I got a response from Bandler that said "Thanks you for the note. I'm glad you read the Journal."
I wrote to the reporters of that story yesterday telling them what a lame non-story they wrote about and today I got a response from Bandler that said "Thanks you for the note. I'm glad you read the Journal."
If they are trying sooooo soooo hard to bury the Williams case, then you know there's more to it than what we've seen. Which is probably why the ed.gov site is down. As far as I can tell, the folks most concerned about touting NCLB are the same folks pushing charter schools and vouchers. Which makes me suspicious of the ed dept. Their job is not supposed to be steering people away from public schools, is it? I've got a doozy of a post stewing in my head right now. Something is hinky in Bush-land.
If they are trying sooooo soooo hard to bury the Williams case, then you know there's more to it than what we've seen. Which is probably why the ed.gov site is down. As far as I can tell, the folks most concerned about touting NCLB are the same folks pushing charter schools and vouchers. Which makes me suspicious of the ed dept. Their job is not supposed to be steering people away from public schools, is it? I've got a doozy of a post stewing in my head right now. Something is hinky in Bush-land.
Meanwhile, as America realizes its leaders have crumbled into gibbering idiots, they are slowly beginning to realize the same is true for their press and media.
America, America, where Homer S. is King!
Meanwhile, as America realizes its leaders have crumbled into gibbering idiots, they are slowly beginning to realize the same is true for their press and media.
America, America, where Homer S. is King!
"The WSJ editors lie without consequence"
"The WSJ editors lie without consequence"
EkCenTriK,
Hey, Homer at least has some ethics. He's too good to be king of this place.
EkCenTriK,
Hey, Homer at least has some ethics. He's too good to be king of this place.
NYMary
You are right, I could probably be a Flanders living next door to Homer S. These guys, nah, I would move because they are bringing down the neughborhood.
By the way, any hints of a retraction, a clarification and distilling of the news in factual manner now at the WSJ? What about, firing those two reporters and letting their readership know?
NYMary
You are right, I could probably be a Flanders living next door to Homer S. These guys, nah, I would move because they are bringing down the neughborhood.
By the way, any hints of a retraction, a clarification and distilling of the news in factual manner now at the WSJ? What about, firing those two reporters and letting their readership know?
Biblio - Bingo.
Here's what I've been wondering: Where did the money they used to pay Williams come from? I mean, he didn't just get a check with "Uncle Sam, USA, Washington DC" in the upper left-hand corner as the maker.
That check had to be issued through some department somewhere. Which one? And how many other hinky and illegal payments for any assortment of bad or criminal misdeeds have been issued through that very same accounting department? Because for expediency's sake, you KNOW they wrote them all out of the same account - one thing we know about them is they make little or no effort to cover their tracks through careful planning, choosing to rely on rightwing media obfuscation after the fact and moron-American intellectual laziness to get away with it.
Find out where the Williams check originated, and my guess is that an entire stinking sewer of corruption will come to the surface.
Biblio - Bingo.
Here's what I've been wondering: Where did the money they used to pay Williams come from? I mean, he didn't just get a check with "Uncle Sam, USA, Washington DC" in the upper left-hand corner as the maker.
That check had to be issued through some department somewhere. Which one? And how many other hinky and illegal payments for any assortment of bad or criminal misdeeds have been issued through that very same accounting department? Because for expediency's sake, you KNOW they wrote them all out of the same account - one thing we know about them is they make little or no effort to cover their tracks through careful planning, choosing to rely on rightwing media obfuscation after the fact and moron-American intellectual laziness to get away with it.
Find out where the Williams check originated, and my guess is that an entire stinking sewer of corruption will come to the surface.
Has anyone looked at the kerning on the WSJ article?
Has anyone looked at the kerning on the WSJ article?
Homer S. is a member of the VRWC.Dont let him con you into a false sense of security.
Homer S. is a member of the VRWC.Dont let him con you into a false sense of security.
And should not that retraction/clarification/apology be prominent--say on page 1?
And should not that retraction/clarification/apology be prominent--say on page 1?
Biblio --
Don't forget that R. Paige is the one who called teachers "terrorists" -- the Ed. Dept. is simply itching to shut down public education and REPLACE it with private schools. Just another example of the ideology of "privatization" (meaning, "hey everybody, you're on your own")
Biblio --
Don't forget that R. Paige is the one who called teachers "terrorists" -- the Ed. Dept. is simply itching to shut down public education and REPLACE it with private schools. Just another example of the ideology of "privatization" (meaning, "hey everybody, you're on your own")
The place to get a journalistic investigation of the WSJ would be with its closest journalistic competitor(s). Used to be the NYT, but they probably don't want to look too closely at the news biz. So who could it be?
The place to get a journalistic investigation of the WSJ would be with its closest journalistic competitor(s). Used to be the NYT, but they probably don't want to look too closely at the news biz. So who could it be?
General we really need your snark on the supposed Dean source. Question her as only you can.
Find is she dates Malagangbang while you're at it...
General we really need your snark on the supposed Dean source. Question her as only you can.
Find is she dates Malagangbang while you're at it...
I don't know about anyone else, but it sounds to me like Kos, Jerome, and Howard Dean, were all given a lawsuit on a big silver platter.
Reporters working for a major newspaper fabricated quotes and published them in a story that was, clearly, defamatory and injurious to all three parties.
(Unfortunately it doesn't seem actionable that this completely fake scandal was then picked up and vigorously echoed by the likes of Traitor Novak and Gerbil Fetishist Kelli Arena.)
(Oh, and about the gerbil thing: I heard it from someone, somewhere, so by Ms. Arena's journalistic standards, it's close enough to the truth.)
I don't know about anyone else, but it sounds to me like Kos, Jerome, and Howard Dean, were all given a lawsuit on a big silver platter.
Reporters working for a major newspaper fabricated quotes and published them in a story that was, clearly, defamatory and injurious to all three parties.
(Unfortunately it doesn't seem actionable that this completely fake scandal was then picked up and vigorously echoed by the likes of Traitor Novak and Gerbil Fetishist Kelli Arena.)
(Oh, and about the gerbil thing: I heard it from someone, somewhere, so by Ms. Arena's journalistic standards, it's close enough to the truth.)
Find out where the Williams check originated, and my guess is that an entire stinking sewer of corruption will come to the surface.
Jennifer
Has anyone asked Williams about the whole process either? Who approached him with this scheme? Who negotiated the terms with him? Who, as Jennifer points out, issued the cheque?
Nope.
The fact that none of the media outlets have even raised these questions speaks volumes.
Find out where the Williams check originated, and my guess is that an entire stinking sewer of corruption will come to the surface.
Jennifer
Has anyone asked Williams about the whole process either? Who approached him with this scheme? Who negotiated the terms with him? Who, as Jennifer points out, issued the cheque?
Nope.
The fact that none of the media outlets have even raised these questions speaks volumes.
Find is she dates Malagangbang while you're at it...
Hehe. I don't think I ever thanked you for letting me know she had her comments open. Thanks. It was fun.
Find is she dates Malagangbang while you're at it...
Hehe. I don't think I ever thanked you for letting me know she had her comments open. Thanks. It was fun.
Cummings confirms that the WSJ was in possession of the facts, yet made a conscious decision to smear Kos and Jerome Armstrong.
ah, reckless disregard.
Also a great band name.
Cummings confirms that the WSJ was in possession of the facts, yet made a conscious decision to smear Kos and Jerome Armstrong.
ah, reckless disregard.
Also a great band name.
now when is the wsj going to hire a panel to investigate how this happened?
let robert fiske lead it up.
now when is the wsj going to hire a panel to investigate how this happened?
let robert fiske lead it up.
Cummings confirms that the WSJ was in possession of the facts, yet made a conscious decision to smear Kos and Jerome Armstrong.
Not only that, but they also made up quotes and attributed them to Dean insiders.
Cummings confirms that the WSJ was in possession of the facts, yet made a conscious decision to smear Kos and Jerome Armstrong.
Not only that, but they also made up quotes and attributed them to Dean insiders.
You could hear the 5 watt freep heads exploding from your comments to her. She actually left mine up, which was quite a surprise. I think shed' backstabe the RNC machine in a heartbeat and offer herself to Hillary in the process.
It would make a pleasing aroma to BA'AL as well.(/snark)
You could hear the 5 watt freep heads exploding from your comments to her. She actually left mine up, which was quite a surprise. I think shed' backstabe the RNC machine in a heartbeat and offer herself to Hillary in the process.
It would make a pleasing aroma to BA'AL as well.(/snark)
Ack!
Ack!
And thank God the WSJ separates their news operation from their editorial division.
And thank God the WSJ separates their news operation from their editorial division.
All of this really reminds me of the Rather/CBS hullabaloo. If the Right screams and moans loud enough that "the Left" is ethically compromised, then Joe and Jane Sixpack may not notice that Bush didn't fulfill his Guard obligations, or that Armstrong Williams has a real conflict of interest problem.
They are masters at changing the subject. Just how long will they be able to keep deceiving the public?
All of this really reminds me of the Rather/CBS hullabaloo. If the Right screams and moans loud enough that "the Left" is ethically compromised, then Joe and Jane Sixpack may not notice that Bush didn't fulfill his Guard obligations, or that Armstrong Williams has a real conflict of interest problem.
They are masters at changing the subject. Just how long will they be able to keep deceiving the public?
I'm surprised at anyone who esteems the opinion of a woman, who admitted her intent was to bribe bloggers whether they saw it that way or not, when she talks about ethics, and I'm shocked, shocked at WSJ journos wringing their hands about ethics in a story they largely made-up. They're the creationists of ethics, it's some theory some other folks believe in but they'll have no truck with.
I'm surprised at anyone who esteems the opinion of a woman, who admitted her intent was to bribe bloggers whether they saw it that way or not, when she talks about ethics, and I'm shocked, shocked at WSJ journos wringing their hands about ethics in a story they largely made-up. They're the creationists of ethics, it's some theory some other folks believe in but they'll have no truck with.
Whoo, good letter. I like that lady. I wouldn't be as trusting as she is of her friend at the WSJ, however. Just sayin'
Whoo, good letter. I like that lady. I wouldn't be as trusting as she is of her friend at the WSJ, however. Just sayin'
This is why lazy, unread Democratic establishment placeholders need to be dumped from their cozy slots on television.
You hear me Renfield?
Fast, tough replies to these idiot Rovian fabrications are the only way. And these tough points have to be made over and over just like the endless whining of the Rethug spin machine. I know I've watched countless times as a Bob "Spank Me I'm a Dirty Boy" Walker-type hammers a particular thug echo relentlessly while some hapless Democratic spokeperson just sits there with a moronic grin. These Dem wankers don't even challenge Rethugs over something as simple as misstating the Democratic Party as a more perjorative Democrat Party...remember trivial points comprise the Rethug canon for the majority of their mouth-breathing membership.
Attack, attack, attack and then attack some more all the while keeping it simple stoopid for the folks who get their current events from skimming People magazine, OxyRush and driving past the occasional Times Square-type news ticker.
This is why lazy, unread Democratic establishment placeholders need to be dumped from their cozy slots on television.
You hear me Renfield?
Fast, tough replies to these idiot Rovian fabrications are the only way. And these tough points have to be made over and over just like the endless whining of the Rethug spin machine. I know I've watched countless times as a Bob "Spank Me I'm a Dirty Boy" Walker-type hammers a particular thug echo relentlessly while some hapless Democratic spokeperson just sits there with a moronic grin. These Dem wankers don't even challenge Rethugs over something as simple as misstating the Democratic Party as a more perjorative Democrat Party...remember trivial points comprise the Rethug canon for the majority of their mouth-breathing membership.
Attack, attack, attack and then attack some more all the while keeping it simple stoopid for the folks who get their current events from skimming People magazine, OxyRush and driving past the occasional Times Square-type news ticker.
backstab* even...
PS that Klan posting you put up was distrubing. I used to drive through that town. It had an old white frame chruch on the left side of the road westbound with a sign on it that said Kountry Krafts Korner...
I never stopped there for a thing, made sure I had plenty of gas mileage to burn before getting anywhere near there.
backstab* even...
PS that Klan posting you put up was distrubing. I used to drive through that town. It had an old white frame chruch on the left side of the road westbound with a sign on it that said Kountry Krafts Korner...
I never stopped there for a thing, made sure I had plenty of gas mileage to burn before getting anywhere near there.
BTW, That Idiot Drum actually makes sense, for a fucking change...
BTW, That Idiot Drum actually makes sense, for a fucking change...
All of this really reminds me of the Rather/CBS hullabaloo.
Thanks Susan, and thanks for the eMail addresses - I am using them.
Yet, I can't help but wonder:
Since this is not a real story there's no real ethical problem. Right?
All of this really reminds me of the Rather/CBS hullabaloo.
Thanks Susan, and thanks for the eMail addresses - I am using them.
Yet, I can't help but wonder:
Since this is not a real story there's no real ethical problem. Right?
What Sean said. Wasn't there an announcement a few weeks ago about a "war room" that would respond to this crap? What ever happened to that?
What Sean said. Wasn't there an announcement a few weeks ago about a "war room" that would respond to this crap? What ever happened to that?
Seraphiel - I don't know about anyone else, but it sounds to me like Kos, Jerome, and Howard Dean, were all given a lawsuit on a big silver platter.
Man, do I agree with this. And do I wish they would sue - I really do. Someone needs to. It might get the message across that this constant shit in the media about liberals is not going to go unmarked.
Seraphiel - I don't know about anyone else, but it sounds to me like Kos, Jerome, and Howard Dean, were all given a lawsuit on a big silver platter.
Man, do I agree with this. And do I wish they would sue - I really do. Someone needs to. It might get the message across that this constant shit in the media about liberals is not going to go unmarked.
I'm surprised at anyone who esteems the opinion of a woman, who admitted her intent was to bribe bloggers whether they saw it that way or not, when she talks about ethics
I've lost all respect for Zephyr, but not becaise she hired opinion-shapers. As I wrote earlier, that's campaign 101. You'd be doing you candidate a diservice if you didn't do. God knows, your opponent will get them if you don't.
My problem with her is that she took a routine campaign tactic and tried to turn it into a scandal. Obviously, she's pissed off at Dean and is trying to derail his run for the DNC chairmanship. She also appars to be too stupid to realize that she gave the Administration a means of distracting the press away from the stories about Williams, et. al.
That's the kind of stupid, internal, fighting that has hurt Dems so much over the years. Remember, it was Heather Foley's attack on the Seargent of Arms that created the check kiting scandal a few years back and cost her husband, Tom, the Speakership (is that a word).
I'm surprised at anyone who esteems the opinion of a woman, who admitted her intent was to bribe bloggers whether they saw it that way or not, when she talks about ethics
I've lost all respect for Zephyr, but not becaise she hired opinion-shapers. As I wrote earlier, that's campaign 101. You'd be doing you candidate a diservice if you didn't do. God knows, your opponent will get them if you don't.
My problem with her is that she took a routine campaign tactic and tried to turn it into a scandal. Obviously, she's pissed off at Dean and is trying to derail his run for the DNC chairmanship. She also appars to be too stupid to realize that she gave the Administration a means of distracting the press away from the stories about Williams, et. al.
That's the kind of stupid, internal, fighting that has hurt Dems so much over the years. Remember, it was Heather Foley's attack on the Seargent of Arms that created the check kiting scandal a few years back and cost her husband, Tom, the Speakership (is that a word).
The only way it will ever become widely known that the WSJ made this shit up in order to deflect attention from the Bush practice of buying "journalists" with tax money to push partisan propaganda is if Kos and Jerome sue the WSJ.
Please guys. They've wrapped it up in a pretty ribbon for you and everything.
The only way it will ever become widely known that the WSJ made this shit up in order to deflect attention from the Bush practice of buying "journalists" with tax money to push partisan propaganda is if Kos and Jerome sue the WSJ.
Please guys. They've wrapped it up in a pretty ribbon for you and everything.
Wasn't there an announcement a few weeks ago about a "war room" that would respond to this crap?
I think you're thinking of Reid's congressional war room - which is more focused on counteracting admin spin on legislative issues - and has started some oppo on SS.
Wasn't there an announcement a few weeks ago about a "war room" that would respond to this crap?
I think you're thinking of Reid's congressional war room - which is more focused on counteracting admin spin on legislative issues - and has started some oppo on SS.
Man, my typos are fast and furious today. Please forgive all of the misspellings.
Man, my typos are fast and furious today. Please forgive all of the misspellings.
I wouldn't be as trusting as she is of her friend at the WSJ, however.
No fucking shit. What the hell's wrong with these so-called "professionals?" For a Dean staffer, of all people, to think the uber-brownshirt Wall Stree Journal is going to treat them "fairly" in any way, shape or form is beyond belief.
And one other thing: instead of giving a second- or third-party "clarification" "on background," Gross should have insisted on talking directly to the reporters writing the story. And taped the conversation. That's what a "professional" would do.
I wouldn't be as trusting as she is of her friend at the WSJ, however.
No fucking shit. What the hell's wrong with these so-called "professionals?" For a Dean staffer, of all people, to think the uber-brownshirt Wall Stree Journal is going to treat them "fairly" in any way, shape or form is beyond belief.
And one other thing: instead of giving a second- or third-party "clarification" "on background," Gross should have insisted on talking directly to the reporters writing the story. And taped the conversation. That's what a "professional" would do.
Well Mary Cheney was a paid lesbian for her dad's campaign. So Armstrong WIlliams being a paid thespian is not a long reach...
Well Mary Cheney was a paid lesbian for her dad's campaign. So Armstrong WIlliams being a paid thespian is not a long reach...
this is so clear that I know wingers will get it all botched.
this is so clear that I know wingers will get it all botched.
I would just like to reiterate that this blogger would gladly take money to write positive political pundit stuff, especially about Dean. Shit, I've been doing it for free for a coupla years now, might as well at least get my hosting expenses covered.
I would just like to reiterate that this blogger would gladly take money to write positive political pundit stuff, especially about Dean. Shit, I've been doing it for free for a coupla years now, might as well at least get my hosting expenses covered.
Another puzzling thing is why the Williams contract didn't come out in October when People for the American Way busted the administration and Ketchum for creating fake news reports about Medicare and NCLB. Paige was in on that. He was INTERVIEWED for the damn thing. Was this a separate contract with Ketchum? How much has our government paid these guys for propaganda???
Another puzzling thing is why the Williams contract didn't come out in October when People for the American Way busted the administration and Ketchum for creating fake news reports about Medicare and NCLB. Paige was in on that. He was INTERVIEWED for the damn thing. Was this a separate contract with Ketchum? How much has our government paid these guys for propaganda???
A lawsuit or several would be terrific along with a properly advanced press event...for the good of the party I'd like to see Gov Dean and Sen Kennedy joined by several superb lawyers to outline the case and the corrupted media atmosphere in which it will play out.
This would get lots of attention at chat time and even more if several bombshell type updates were scattered across the following days along with exclusive interviews with Dean, Kennedy, the bloggers in question, Ms Gross and Ms Cummings or the offending WSJ Boston crowd.
The various big bylines and talking heads have to made to realize that they are within the target footprint.
Again...attack, attack, attack and attack some more.
Like figuring out how much equipment for the troops the price of NotJenna, Jenna or Laura's coronaugural gowns would provide.
Be grateful you are not a big Rethug contributor as the coronaugural guys are draining them dry with even more forced donations...mob protection would be cheaper!
A lawsuit or several would be terrific along with a properly advanced press event...for the good of the party I'd like to see Gov Dean and Sen Kennedy joined by several superb lawyers to outline the case and the corrupted media atmosphere in which it will play out.
This would get lots of attention at chat time and even more if several bombshell type updates were scattered across the following days along with exclusive interviews with Dean, Kennedy, the bloggers in question, Ms Gross and Ms Cummings or the offending WSJ Boston crowd.
The various big bylines and talking heads have to made to realize that they are within the target footprint.
Again...attack, attack, attack and attack some more.
Like figuring out how much equipment for the troops the price of NotJenna, Jenna or Laura's coronaugural gowns would provide.
Be grateful you are not a big Rethug contributor as the coronaugural guys are draining them dry with even more forced donations...mob protection would be cheaper!
My problem with her is that she took a routine campaign tactic and tried to turn it into a scandal.
Worse yet, that she's painting what they did as scandalous, while she apparently views herself as pure enough to judge others. *If* it's unethical to consult for a candidate, it's at least as unethical to solicit the consulting.
I don't agree that what she claims to have done was ethical, though, whether routine or not, but that may just be me.
My problem with her is that she took a routine campaign tactic and tried to turn it into a scandal.
Worse yet, that she's painting what they did as scandalous, while she apparently views herself as pure enough to judge others. *If* it's unethical to consult for a candidate, it's at least as unethical to solicit the consulting.
I don't agree that what she claims to have done was ethical, though, whether routine or not, but that may just be me.
Whazzat? Huh? We can't hear you!
Whazzat? Huh? We can't hear you!
NTodd - I would just like to reiterate that this blogger would gladly take money to write positive political pundit stuff,
Me too (raising hand and waving it around) Me too!
Actually, Morris Meyer, who ran for Congress against Joe Barton out in the mid-cities, offered me the position of his campaign blogger. I turned it down because I didn't think I had the technical wherewithal to troubleshoot a campaign site. We never talk about whether it would be a compensated position. I might as well disclose that the offer was made, because in comments during the campaign I often brought Meyer up as someone worth supporting.
NTodd - I would just like to reiterate that this blogger would gladly take money to write positive political pundit stuff,
Me too (raising hand and waving it around) Me too!
Actually, Morris Meyer, who ran for Congress against Joe Barton out in the mid-cities, offered me the position of his campaign blogger. I turned it down because I didn't think I had the technical wherewithal to troubleshoot a campaign site. We never talk about whether it would be a compensated position. I might as well disclose that the offer was made, because in comments during the campaign I often brought Meyer up as someone worth supporting.
I am really sick of the media right now. This is just bullshit! You would think the Wall Street Journal would be more careful with the crap they write... well, maybe not. I guess they are geared toward the rightwingnutscumsuckingrichassholes.
I was listening to NPR yesterday afternoon and they had some segment on where the talker kept saying Dan Rather and CBS lied about miserable failure's military record. No more money for NPR from me - they don't look at the other side of the picture.
Anyway, I pretty much missed catblogging yesterday, so I uploaded a couple pictures on my homepage, should anyone want to see my babies.
I am really sick of the media right now. This is just bullshit! You would think the Wall Street Journal would be more careful with the crap they write... well, maybe not. I guess they are geared toward the rightwingnutscumsuckingrichassholes.
I was listening to NPR yesterday afternoon and they had some segment on where the talker kept saying Dan Rather and CBS lied about miserable failure's military record. No more money for NPR from me - they don't look at the other side of the picture.
Anyway, I pretty much missed catblogging yesterday, so I uploaded a couple pictures on my homepage, should anyone want to see my babies.
And on a sillier note, I'd like to offer up "Zephyr Treachour" as a suitable substitute name.
And on a sillier note, I'd like to offer up "Zephyr Treachour" as a suitable substitute name.
I have posted this elsewhere....Jeanne Cummings has done nothing heroic whatsoever...Laura had to track her down to find out why things were so screwed up with the article...Jeanne did not call her...If Jeanne had any sense of journalistic ethics, she would post her own thoughts or at least dictate them to someone with the express purpose of getting her side of the story out....Otherwise, she is just part of the kool kids crew, hoping no one on the outside notices the rampant thuggery of the mainstream media...
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I have posted this elsewhere....Jeanne Cummings has done nothing heroic whatsoever...Laura had to track her down to find out why things were so screwed up with the article...Jeanne did not call her...If Jeanne had any sense of journalistic ethics, she would post her own thoughts or at least dictate them to someone with the express purpose of getting her side of the story out....Otherwise, she is just part of the kool kids crew, hoping no one on the outside notices the rampant thuggery of the mainstream media...
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Haha!
Matt Davies is great!
Haha!
Matt Davies is great!
zepher = an ill wind that blows no good
zepher = an ill wind that blows no good
Atrios,
Isn't this kind of behaivor a firable offence? I think you're letting Ms. Cummings off pretty easy. I don't understand how two colleagues can print that kind of tripe under HER byline and get away with it.
This is inexcusable. If the NYT pulled a stunt like this, heads would still be rolling in 2006 over it.
Several people were abused by this false *story* and have had their reputations harmed. This is an outrage.
Atrios,
Isn't this kind of behaivor a firable offence? I think you're letting Ms. Cummings off pretty easy. I don't understand how two colleagues can print that kind of tripe under HER byline and get away with it.
This is inexcusable. If the NYT pulled a stunt like this, heads would still be rolling in 2006 over it.
Several people were abused by this false *story* and have had their reputations harmed. This is an outrage.
"Since this is not a real story there's no real ethical problem. Right?"
Yes, of course, you are correct. However, the Right seems to be working hard to create the impression that there is an ethical problem. They are the Masters of Illusion and fully understand that, in America, perception is everything.
"Since this is not a real story there's no real ethical problem. Right?"
Yes, of course, you are correct. However, the Right seems to be working hard to create the impression that there is an ethical problem. They are the Masters of Illusion and fully understand that, in America, perception is everything.
My email to the fucktards at WSJ BEFORE I heard about Laura Gross:
The first sentence of this article is inaccurate:
"Howard Dean's presidential campaign hired two Internet political "bloggers" as consultants so that they would say positive things about the former governor's campaign in their online journals, according to a former high-profile Dean aide."
Here is what Teachout had to say yesterday:
"Jerome asked me to note, correctly, that he took a hiatus from blogging from June until December. Furthermore, he asked me to clarify that *I didn't mean to imply that there was an understanding that he was being paid to blog positive things about Dean. If you read my post carefully, you would have seen that was clear.
We were paying him in part because WE hoped that he, and Kos, would blog positive things about Dean, but that was never explicit or implicit in the contract. This has to do with OUR [Trippi's team's] motives, not some contract, and no compromise on their part.
Your source does not stand by your story. You must issue a correction immediately.
My email to the fucktards at WSJ BEFORE I heard about Laura Gross:
The first sentence of this article is inaccurate:
"Howard Dean's presidential campaign hired two Internet political "bloggers" as consultants so that they would say positive things about the former governor's campaign in their online journals, according to a former high-profile Dean aide."
Here is what Teachout had to say yesterday:
"Jerome asked me to note, correctly, that he took a hiatus from blogging from June until December. Furthermore, he asked me to clarify that *I didn't mean to imply that there was an understanding that he was being paid to blog positive things about Dean. If you read my post carefully, you would have seen that was clear.
We were paying him in part because WE hoped that he, and Kos, would blog positive things about Dean, but that was never explicit or implicit in the contract. This has to do with OUR [Trippi's team's] motives, not some contract, and no compromise on their part.
Your source does not stand by your story. You must issue a correction immediately.
They will keep deceiving the public as long as the public consents to be deceived. You've got a whole lot of rethugs who hear what they want to hear - thus Faux network. Since no journalist wants to ask the hard (read: obvious) questions, a law suit seems the only way to get this into the open. I really HATE this administration!!
They will keep deceiving the public as long as the public consents to be deceived. You've got a whole lot of rethugs who hear what they want to hear - thus Faux network. Since no journalist wants to ask the hard (read: obvious) questions, a law suit seems the only way to get this into the open. I really HATE this administration!!
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We are all Frank Grimes now bitches
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EkCenTriK | Email | Homepage | 01.15.05 - 2:19 pm | #
We are all Frank Grimes now bitches
Atrios should enjoy this. bandler, one of the two wsjnuts that attacks kos wrote this longish fellation of okrent.
http://www.newsombudsmen.org/ban...rg/
bandler.html
Atrios should enjoy this. bandler, one of the two wsjnuts that attacks kos wrote this longish fellation of okrent.
http://www.newsombudsmen.org/ban...rg/
bandler.html
In an unannounced speech today, president bush today warned of a "growing and imminent" threat from Social Security.
Using language not heard since the early days of the Iraq war run-up, mr. bush firmly announced that "Social Security had best disarm or face serious consequences."
Calling Social Security a "growing and gathering threat', as the president put it, which put us "on a collision course with this menace at some point in our future," the president announced that he would seek any and all ways of disarming Social Security, even if it meant once again going before the United Nations.
"As the president, I have a, I have uh, duty to continue to do hard work to protect the American people," The president said. "I feel that if I do not protect them in any way I can from growing and gathering threats, then I'm not doing my job."
"Citing his recent tax cuts, whose costs were added to the nation's National Debt starting in 2001, for a total of over $3.2 trillion dollars," the president called on the nation to spend $1.2 trillion, and even upwards of $2.4 trillion dollars in order to "disarm" Social Security.
"I have no idea where America will get this kind of money," several prominent Republican senators exclaimed. I mean $2.4 trillion dollars to attack Social Security? Why, the only way we could possibly do this would be to borrow that much money. Otherwise, I don't see how the nation can afford this," Senator Bill Frist told a press conference.
Armstrong Williams, a radio commentator popular with many blacks and a very loyal proponent of the administration today announced that "after looking at the numbers, I have to now agree with our President, that Social Security IS a threat to this nation and we must all do whatever it takes to defend America from it."
Calls to leading Democrat lawmakers went unreturned.
In an unannounced speech today, president bush today warned of a "growing and imminent" threat from Social Security.
Using language not heard since the early days of the Iraq war run-up, mr. bush firmly announced that "Social Security had best disarm or face serious consequences."
Calling Social Security a "growing and gathering threat', as the president put it, which put us "on a collision course with this menace at some point in our future," the president announced that he would seek any and all ways of disarming Social Security, even if it meant once again going before the United Nations.
"As the president, I have a, I have uh, duty to continue to do hard work to protect the American people," The president said. "I feel that if I do not protect them in any way I can from growing and gathering threats, then I'm not doing my job."
"Citing his recent tax cuts, whose costs were added to the nation's National Debt starting in 2001, for a total of over $3.2 trillion dollars," the president called on the nation to spend $1.2 trillion, and even upwards of $2.4 trillion dollars in order to "disarm" Social Security.
"I have no idea where America will get this kind of money," several prominent Republican senators exclaimed. I mean $2.4 trillion dollars to attack Social Security? Why, the only way we could possibly do this would be to borrow that much money. Otherwise, I don't see how the nation can afford this," Senator Bill Frist told a press conference.
Armstrong Williams, a radio commentator popular with many blacks and a very loyal proponent of the administration today announced that "after looking at the numbers, I have to now agree with our President, that Social Security IS a threat to this nation and we must all do whatever it takes to defend America from it."
Calls to leading Democrat lawmakers went unreturned.
{sniff) I hate coming here, this stuff makes me so sick (sniff)
{sniff) I hate coming here, this stuff makes me so sick (sniff)
What a pile of fucking nonsense, the fact that the left has to defend anything when the real fucking issue is that the GOVERNMENT of the USA used TAXPAYERS dollars to PAY a member of the MEDIA to PRAISE AND SUPPORT A GOVERNMENT INITATIVE which is AGAINST THE LAW! THAT's the issue and everyone is being wagged by the REPUGLIKKKAN CRIMINAL TAIL
sorry for shouting.
What a pile of fucking nonsense, the fact that the left has to defend anything when the real fucking issue is that the GOVERNMENT of the USA used TAXPAYERS dollars to PAY a member of the MEDIA to PRAISE AND SUPPORT A GOVERNMENT INITATIVE which is AGAINST THE LAW! THAT's the issue and everyone is being wagged by the REPUGLIKKKAN CRIMINAL TAIL
sorry for shouting.
SECRETLY I might add
SECRETLY I might add
It seems to me that the WSJ article is useful on many levels: neutralizes the Williams' scandal, destroys Dean's candidacy, smears bloggers, makes liberals look hypocritical.
It's the new reality. Anything that say is reality is it as was explained by the asshat in the NY Times. I said this on the thread below. By the time we debunk this, to the extent possible because some people will never hear the rebuttals or retractions and will continue to believe the lie, there will have been half dozen more outright untruths sold to the public. Media Matters and AAR are not enough to overcome the MSM.
I have dear friends, who I have known for over thirty years who believe the Swift Boat liars and voted for Bush. They should know better, but don't. We actually got into a shouting match after the election.
It seems to me that the WSJ article is useful on many levels: neutralizes the Williams' scandal, destroys Dean's candidacy, smears bloggers, makes liberals look hypocritical.
It's the new reality. Anything that say is reality is it as was explained by the asshat in the NY Times. I said this on the thread below. By the time we debunk this, to the extent possible because some people will never hear the rebuttals or retractions and will continue to believe the lie, there will have been half dozen more outright untruths sold to the public. Media Matters and AAR are not enough to overcome the MSM.
I have dear friends, who I have known for over thirty years who believe the Swift Boat liars and voted for Bush. They should know better, but don't. We actually got into a shouting match after the election.
Ya know, even if the WSJ issued a front page correction (which they won't) it would not be enough tomake up for the damage they've done.
I am sputtering mad.
Ya know, even if the WSJ issued a front page correction (which they won't) it would not be enough tomake up for the damage they've done.
I am sputtering mad.
I am sputtering mad.
bigvic-You can sputter me anytime anywhere.
-Liddy Dole
I am sputtering mad.
bigvic-You can sputter me anytime anywhere.
-Liddy Dole
Make Condie appear under oath since she stonewalled such attempts at the 9-11 commission.
Then ask her a few things and see what she has to say.
She's a failure of imagination. Remind people about that fact. Ask her is if she has resigned from the board of Exxon-Mobil, and if she does any work for Unocal whose regional head in South Asia is the newly "elected" President of Afghanistan and whose VP was his aide in the same previous capacity...
Posted by Clark Twain at
Make Condie appear under oath since she stonewalled such attempts at the 9-11 commission.
Then ask her a few things and see what she has to say.
She's a failure of imagination. Remind people about that fact. Ask her is if she has resigned from the board of Exxon-Mobil, and if she does any work for Unocal whose regional head in South Asia is the newly "elected" President of Afghanistan and whose VP was his aide in the same previous capacity...
Posted by Clark Twain at
Romenesko probably reads Eschaton, but just In case he doesn't, I'm forwarding the Cummings post.
Romenesko probably reads Eschaton, but just In case he doesn't, I'm forwarding the Cummings post.
Obviously, she's pissed off at Dean and is trying to derail his run for the DNC chairmanship. She also appars to be too stupid to realize that she gave the Administration a means of distracting the press away from the stories about Williams, et. al.
The left leaning blogs are helping to frame the upcoming debate on Social Security. Bushco knows this. There is a real grass roots effort going on at TPM - with good results.
The right will try to discredit the blogs every chance they get, because they already have the right-wing and the SCLM in their pocket!
I also agree that there seems to be an organized effort to discredit Dean by the right - even before this lastest smear campaign.
Obviously, she's pissed off at Dean and is trying to derail his run for the DNC chairmanship. She also appars to be too stupid to realize that she gave the Administration a means of distracting the press away from the stories about Williams, et. al.
The left leaning blogs are helping to frame the upcoming debate on Social Security. Bushco knows this. There is a real grass roots effort going on at TPM - with good results.
The right will try to discredit the blogs every chance they get, because they already have the right-wing and the SCLM in their pocket!
I also agree that there seems to be an organized effort to discredit Dean by the right - even before this lastest smear campaign.
Oh yeah and another thing, offtopic, will the left stop talking about BUSH's appointies and pointing out that they won't be acceptable to the right because they are PRO-ABORTION. Do you actually believe that these fucking scumbags have any integrity and that because at some point they WERE PRO-Choice that they will let that stand in the way of POWER, do any of you really believe that any of these pieces of shit are in any way decent people, they are, to state it simply, each and everyone, 3 coil piles of STEAMING SHIT.
There now you can go back to the intelligent and eloquent discussion of the more genteel posters.
Oh yeah and another thing, offtopic, will the left stop talking about BUSH's appointies and pointing out that they won't be acceptable to the right because they are PRO-ABORTION. Do you actually believe that these fucking scumbags have any integrity and that because at some point they WERE PRO-Choice that they will let that stand in the way of POWER, do any of you really believe that any of these pieces of shit are in any way decent people, they are, to state it simply, each and everyone, 3 coil piles of STEAMING SHIT.
There now you can go back to the intelligent and eloquent discussion of the more genteel posters.
How about this headline:
"We Lied."
Let us know what you think!
How about this headline:
"We Lied."
Let us know what you think!
bigvic-You can sputter me anytime anywhere. Liddy
Oh, Liddy, I'd be honored! I needed a laugh about now.
bigvic-You can sputter me anytime anywhere. Liddy
Oh, Liddy, I'd be honored! I needed a laugh about now.
Volvo Liberal - I read your post Jeanne Cummings has done nothing heroic whatsoever...Laura had to track her down to find out why things were so screwed up with the article...Jeanne did not call her...If Jeanne had any sense of journalistic ethics, she would post her own thoughts or at least dictate them to someone with the express purpose of getting her side of the story out..
I agree with you - Jeanne Cummings DOES need to write something about this and explain her part in it, otherwise, she is just another part of the cowed and bought media.
Volvo Liberal - I read your post Jeanne Cummings has done nothing heroic whatsoever...Laura had to track her down to find out why things were so screwed up with the article...Jeanne did not call her...If Jeanne had any sense of journalistic ethics, she would post her own thoughts or at least dictate them to someone with the express purpose of getting her side of the story out..
I agree with you - Jeanne Cummings DOES need to write something about this and explain her part in it, otherwise, she is just another part of the cowed and bought media.
Ask her is if she has resigned from the board of Exxon-Mobil, and if she does any work for Unocal whose regional head in South Asia is the newly "elected" President of Afghanistan and whose VP was his aide in the same previous capacity...
Now, see, this is why I love coming here. Even when I just lurk. I learn something each and every time. I never knew this little tid-bit. Of course, my blood pressure usually enters the danger zone every time I read the posts, but....
Ask her is if she has resigned from the board of Exxon-Mobil, and if she does any work for Unocal whose regional head in South Asia is the newly "elected" President of Afghanistan and whose VP was his aide in the same previous capacity...
Now, see, this is why I love coming here. Even when I just lurk. I learn something each and every time. I never knew this little tid-bit. Of course, my blood pressure usually enters the danger zone every time I read the posts, but....
It seems to me that the WSJ article is useful on many levels: neutralizes the Williams' scandal, destroys Dean's candidacy, smears bloggers, makes liberals look hypocritical.
Exactly.
It's a dessert topping and a floor wax.
It seems to me that the WSJ article is useful on many levels: neutralizes the Williams' scandal, destroys Dean's candidacy, smears bloggers, makes liberals look hypocritical.
Exactly.
It's a dessert topping and a floor wax.
The irony is the fact that Dean hired idiots like Zephyr does give me concerns about his management skills.
The irony is the fact that Dean hired idiots like Zephyr does give me concerns about his management skills.
Considering what happened to Dan Rather over a fake story, we can expect a similar crucifixion at the WSJ, right? Right?
Considering what happened to Dan Rather over a fake story, we can expect a similar crucifixion at the WSJ, right? Right?
WRT: Dan Rather - I should have said supposedly fake story.
WRT: Dan Rather - I should have said supposedly fake story.
WSJ journal article is everything a repub talking points person wants. Aside from an opiate heroin subsititue in liquid 40oz. beer form that could be grown on a tobacco farm or exists in wellstorage geologic formations well under the sands of Iraq and Chad, that is.
Final note- the kerning on the torture fonts that have Bush's approved signature stamp on them are not authentic so even though he issued verbal approval and backed this in writing he is innocent...
WSJ journal article is everything a repub talking points person wants. Aside from an opiate heroin subsititue in liquid 40oz. beer form that could be grown on a tobacco farm or exists in wellstorage geologic formations well under the sands of Iraq and Chad, that is.
Final note- the kerning on the torture fonts that have Bush's approved signature stamp on them are not authentic so even though he issued verbal approval and backed this in writing he is innocent...
Women must breed, for the sake of the race! Brown people and poor people need to do more to pull their own weight; fighting our wars and paying more taxes is the least they can do.
Naturally, bloggers who say otherwise hurt America, and must be exposed for the hypocrites they are.
Stone Free | Email | Homepage | 01.15.05 - 2:15 pm | #
but, of course, Family Values at work there! Lots of the media types or paid opinion writers are trying to push that crap! They do want the women to stay home and take care of the childre/husband, but in doing so, usually, she would not have enough money to get the hell out if hubby wants to beat her. My sister married 2 jerks who hit her - the first hit her several times and even put the baby as a shield when she looked to be ready to hit him back. The other hit her and broke her tooth. That was the only time he got the chance. Luckily, she had family she could fall back on and she was not afraid to leave.
Women must breed, for the sake of the race! Brown people and poor people need to do more to pull their own weight; fighting our wars and paying more taxes is the least they can do.
Naturally, bloggers who say otherwise hurt America, and must be exposed for the hypocrites they are.
Stone Free | Email | Homepage | 01.15.05 - 2:15 pm | #
but, of course, Family Values at work there! Lots of the media types or paid opinion writers are trying to push that crap! They do want the women to stay home and take care of the childre/husband, but in doing so, usually, she would not have enough money to get the hell out if hubby wants to beat her. My sister married 2 jerks who hit her - the first hit her several times and even put the baby as a shield when she looked to be ready to hit him back. The other hit her and broke her tooth. That was the only time he got the chance. Luckily, she had family she could fall back on and she was not afraid to leave.
In addition to venting on this thread, WRITE the !@#$% and tell him what you think! I did: "Shame on you! If a conversation about ethics is in order, you, sir, are exhibit A."
suellentropc@slate.com
In addition to venting on this thread, WRITE the !@#$% and tell him what you think! I did: "Shame on you! If a conversation about ethics is in order, you, sir, are exhibit A."
suellentropc@slate.com
susan, thanks for the addresses, but I note you wrote (thank her) next to Jeanne Cummings info.
I agree with Realist, Hecate, and bigvic -- I wouldn't be jumping up and down to thank Cummings just now. Unless she is willing to put her ass on the line and insist that the WSJ print a full retraction, admit the lies and other ethical lapses, fire the two who (according to her) abused her good name, and QUITS if those things don't happen, then she's just smarming and hoping to get away with it to do more in the future.
I think her "gee, I'm so sorry, I didn't betray you it was those nasty other guys" story is bogus. But if it helps prove intent in a lawsuit, then maybe something good will come of it.
susan, thanks for the addresses, but I note you wrote (thank her) next to Jeanne Cummings info.
I agree with Realist, Hecate, and bigvic -- I wouldn't be jumping up and down to thank Cummings just now. Unless she is willing to put her ass on the line and insist that the WSJ print a full retraction, admit the lies and other ethical lapses, fire the two who (according to her) abused her good name, and QUITS if those things don't happen, then she's just smarming and hoping to get away with it to do more in the future.
I think her "gee, I'm so sorry, I didn't betray you it was those nasty other guys" story is bogus. But if it helps prove intent in a lawsuit, then maybe something good will come of it.
"..but I note you wrote (thank her) next to Jeanne Cummings info."
Huh? I did?
"..but I note you wrote (thank her) next to Jeanne Cummings info."
Huh? I did?
Tena:
Considering what happened to Dan Rather over a fake story, we can expect a similar crucifixion at the WSJ, right? Right?
You sellin whatever it is you're smokin?
Tena:
Considering what happened to Dan Rather over a fake story, we can expect a similar crucifixion at the WSJ, right? Right?
You sellin whatever it is you're smokin?
Personally, I thought that Zephyr was out to lunch during the Dean campaign. Therefore, this series of events doesn't surprise me in the least.
BTW, is anyone else, besides me, rapidly tiring of this whole subject?
Personally, I thought that Zephyr was out to lunch during the Dean campaign. Therefore, this series of events doesn't surprise me in the least.
BTW, is anyone else, besides me, rapidly tiring of this whole subject?
We must demand a retraction or a rewrite from WSJ.
At the very least, they need to TAKE DOWN THE LINK to the story on their homepage. They are currently linking TWICE to this dead story.
I posted this on MyDD:
We KNOW the accusations are not true. Or were miscovered or misrepresented to begin with.
The issue now is to stop the coverage of them, because these journalists all source each other and cover coverage now instead of doing investigation.
What is happening NOW is that WSJ has a link up to their "dead story" (so characterized by a WSJ letter to Laura Gross, cited in DFA blog comment by Laura today) ON THEIR HOMEPAGE RIGHT NOW, 2 links linking readers to this high traffic volume "dead story."
Dean is being swiftboated. It's what they do. We must all object to this, and keep fighting non-truth.
We must demand a retraction or a rewrite from WSJ.
At the very least, they need to TAKE DOWN THE LINK to the story on their homepage. They are currently linking TWICE to this dead story.
I posted this on MyDD:
We KNOW the accusations are not true. Or were miscovered or misrepresented to begin with.
The issue now is to stop the coverage of them, because these journalists all source each other and cover coverage now instead of doing investigation.
What is happening NOW is that WSJ has a link up to their "dead story" (so characterized by a WSJ letter to Laura Gross, cited in DFA blog comment by Laura today) ON THEIR HOMEPAGE RIGHT NOW, 2 links linking readers to this high traffic volume "dead story."
Dean is being swiftboated. It's what they do. We must all object to this, and keep fighting non-truth.
Can't you guys see the wood from the trees?
This is bollocks news made to get the sheeple, yes you guys, to not focus on the fuck-up in Iraq.
Attack that, otherwise the SS plan will go right ahead.
YOU ATTACK YOUR ENEMY AT HIS WEAKEST POINT.
Can't you guys see the wood from the trees?
This is bollocks news made to get the sheeple, yes you guys, to not focus on the fuck-up in Iraq.
Attack that, otherwise the SS plan will go right ahead.
YOU ATTACK YOUR ENEMY AT HIS WEAKEST POINT.
"..but I note you wrote (thank her) next to Jeanne Cummings info."
Huh? I did?
Yup. If you didn't mean to have it there, I apologize for taking it wrong.
"..but I note you wrote (thank her) next to Jeanne Cummings info."
Huh? I did?
Yup. If you didn't mean to have it there, I apologize for taking it wrong.
All for attacking at this particular morally offensive weak point but why stop there? I'm for multi-pronged pincer attacks...fast changing rabbit-punches pummeling the attackee into a dither...lock and load all weapons!
All for attacking at this particular morally offensive weak point but why stop there? I'm for multi-pronged pincer attacks...fast changing rabbit-punches pummeling the attackee into a dither...lock and load all weapons!
I mentioned this on another blog but I think it bears repeating. Not only should the left wing bloggers defend themselves but they must do this outside their normal venue [the internet] and venture forth into the mainstream media. If they do not people like O'Reilly, Hannity and Co. will continue to rip the lefties apart. Their assertions cannot go unchallenged. They may also want to consult with their respective attorneys, as the penalties dealing with libel and/or slander can be severe.
I mentioned this on another blog but I think it bears repeating. Not only should the left wing bloggers defend themselves but they must do this outside their normal venue [the internet] and venture forth into the mainstream media. If they do not people like O'Reilly, Hannity and Co. will continue to rip the lefties apart. Their assertions cannot go unchallenged. They may also want to consult with their respective attorneys, as the penalties dealing with libel and/or slander can be severe.
A perfect example of how the media has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
Lesson to Dems - there are no trustworthy members of the news media. There are no "friendly" or "objective" reporters, so please stop looking for any.
Dean and anyone affiliated with the DNC should engage in a little WWBD - What would Bush do? Cut off all access to the news media, enforce the rule strictly with anyone associated with the campaign and only give them the information you want them to have, carefully vetted, screened and buffed and polished to maximum benefit to you. Nothing more, not one syllable.
Jeez, I can't believe anyone with Dean's campaign was naive enough to talk to a reporter again, much less one from the WSJ.
A perfect example of how the media has one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.
Lesson to Dems - there are no trustworthy members of the news media. There are no "friendly" or "objective" reporters, so please stop looking for any.
Dean and anyone affiliated with the DNC should engage in a little WWBD - What would Bush do? Cut off all access to the news media, enforce the rule strictly with anyone associated with the campaign and only give them the information you want them to have, carefully vetted, screened and buffed and polished to maximum benefit to you. Nothing more, not one syllable.
Jeez, I can't believe anyone with Dean's campaign was naive enough to talk to a reporter again, much less one from the WSJ.
This is bollocks news made to get the sheeple, yes you guys, to not focus on the fuck-up in Iraq.
Golly gee, you're right! I can't even remember that anymore! My outrage quotient is "one"!
Take a hike, brownshirt...
This is bollocks news made to get the sheeple, yes you guys, to not focus on the fuck-up in Iraq.
Golly gee, you're right! I can't even remember that anymore! My outrage quotient is "one"!
Take a hike, brownshirt...
In addition to venting on this thread, WRITE the !@#$% and tell him what you think!
I asked him when he was going to investigate the king of unethical bloggers, Instacracker, for using governement resources to run a profitable business out of his office while, at the same time, collecting a salary from the taxpayers of Tennessee.
So far, no reply...
This is a tempest in a teapot, designed distract the attention of the blogging community from thinking and writing about the Iraq fiasco and the attempt to destroy Social Security. Remember this bloggers, 'it is now about you'.
The people who read blogs are a minority of a minority. It is an important minority for shaping opinion, but to the extent it does, it shapes indirectly. Blogdom is not mass media. The repugs are working this as if it were. It's not as though your average truck driver (my brother in law is one) who spends his time listening to Rush and company is going to get anything out of this other than 'bloggers do it to'. But who the hell cares? It's not as if a blogger is running for office.
Get back to the main thing. Iraq is going down the toilet at an accelerating pace. No WMD. Opposition to Social Security is ramping up, Condeleeza has to face a (short) bout of music in the coming week, and the torture stories are still on front page because of the trial. This whole episode is diversionary.
Keep pounding the facts.
This is bollocks news made to get the sheeple, yes you guys, to not focus on the fuck-up in Iraq.
Bollocks.
IRAQ IS A FUCKED-UP, MURDEROUS, VIET NAM-LIKE HORROR.
BUSH AND HIS WAR SUPPORTERS SUCK.
Happy?
Patriotboy - sorry about the insult, I'm just a little frustrated with liberals getting easily outflanked on these issues by allowing the right to define the issue and then playing defense on what happened. Your post seemed to try and push the issue right where the Right intended the issue, where you and most of the left seem content to battle it. Losing easy battles by fighting the wrong ones have become all too common on the left, and I'm just annoyed that this has become symbolic of everything from WMDs to Kerry.
Romenesko probably reads Eschaton, but just In case he doesn't, I'm forwarding the Cummings post.
You know what's nice about Laura Gross' report about her conversation with Jeanne Cummings?
Cummings confirms that the WSJ was in possession of the facts, yet made a conscious decision to smear Kos and Jerome Armstrong.
And good golly - isn't that typically the hardest hurdle to overcome in a libel case?
Jennifer | Email | Homepage | 01.15.05 - 2:14 pm | #
You got it!
Wow--the "technical consulting" was to advise them to use Moveable Type and advertise with Google AdWords? How much did they get paid for _that_?! Anything more than a small honorarium and this starts to really smell: they can't have thought that this kind of consulting warrants any major money changing hands, so what was really behind it?
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