I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
lidddyyy!!!!!!
So, that puts this to bed, right?
Right?
See, y'know what pisses me off the most about this?
Look at how much time and energy is being wasted refuting this non-issue.
Of course, everyone that worked with Ms. Sellout on the Dean campaign says she's full of shit, too.
Expect her to get her own show in MSGOP real fucking soon!
(Repost from Yglesias, at the end of a thread, where no one will read it)
Once again:
The context here really IS much more important than the facts.
The WST concocted a story (using and abusing one of their own reporters, as well as a Dean source). Teachout got suckered and will probably never recover her credibility again (though she still can, and probably will, be a media whore). O'Reilly and Novak picked the story up, and Begala fell down on the job, as I think we can expect him to do from here on out. A smokescreen was produced over the (Republican) Armstrong affair. Dean was damaged some, Kos and Armstrong some, Dem bloggers some, and a fair amount of dissension was spread in the Democratic camp.
And the original story was almost nothing. O'Reilly misrepresented it on TV in order to get people to take it seriously.
Guys, has this ever happened before? Aren't you watching for this kind of thing by now? How many times can Lucy pull the same trick on the Charlie Brown Democrats?
It's so confusing!
Armstrong Jerome?
William Armstrong?
Perfect!
Fuckers!
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These "bloggers" seem to be a nefarious bunch. What the hell year is this, anyway?
We need to always go and follow the money: how many federal dollars went to pay any bloggers in support of Dean? How much went to right-wing pundits?
End of debate.
BACK PEDDLING FURIOUSLY, the so called media and the various fools and follies fall into the blogging bogs and slog on and on seeking the truth so they can kill it again.
NYMary - it puts it to bed like I put my kid to bed. Just when I think he's down for the count, he pops out of his room again with some bizarre issue. Last night it was that his hair was too short. I kid you not.
What, it's all a lie? Who knew?
This is why NONE OF US HERE will ever be on any TV or radio show. We know too much. Way too much.
This is why none of the bloggers blogging stuff ever get invited to talk about blogging nor are they on the radio or TV...or even e-mailed!
The Steelers are the luckiest MoFos around.
Smell my finger...ooh, it's like tingly from the little finger condoms I wear when I'm whore typing. Oooh, do you smell the latex and keyboard finger cheese? I'd smile but my face would crack. Is that Barbara Srat one sexy babe or what? Meow!
Last night it was that his hair was too short.
hahahahaha!
So now that Dean is getting effectively undermined as somehow "crooked", I wonder who the head of the DNC is going to be?
Who the hell does that utter twit Zephry Teachout think she is.
What a sanctimonious ass.
So when does Rush have his next drug-related court date again?
Smell my finger...ooh, it's like tingly from the little finger condoms I wear when I'm whore typing. Oooh, do you smell the latex and keyboard finger cheese? I'd smile but my face would crack. Is that Barbara Star one sexy babe or what? Meow!
Drat, damn finger condoms.
For the last ten years, we lament "why don't these stupid reporter clowns use google? Don't they know how to read e-mails? Do they understand simple English? Can they make a phone call for once?"
The answer is NO. They cannot inquire, they cannot search for information, they can't examine anything, they deliberately act stupid because this is a great way to make money: the stupid, ignorant, incurious "reporter".
John,
I expect Zephry to "recover" her reputation at Faux.
I happen to like the 3 or 4 TV guestperts who rotating endlessly on all the scream shows...let's see at $400+ AFTRA rate per show spot wow that's a chunk of toe the correct line change, huh?
You know, even after reading it 5 million times, I still can't believe her name is Zephyr Teachout.
Living in a land of smear campaigns, I remember GORE. Remember him? He dissappeared from America's sight because the media lied and lied and made up false stories about him and they examined his every move and look and yelled at him making fun of him, lying and lying and making up stories, a group of stupid jocks and cheerleaders in JH, mocking the smart kids.
We have to retaliate.
Whores! Stupid whores. The reporters, the news media, the pundits are stupid. Stupid stupid stupid, too dumb to use google.
So now that Dean is getting effectively undermined as somehow "crooked", I wonder who the head of the DNC is going to be?
Most interesting. Paul Begala played deaf, dumb and blind about the whole Dean affair on "Crosshairs" yesterday. You better believe he knew what he was doing.
bigvic - I expect Zephry to "recover" her reputation at Faux.
I expect the same. I was saying earlier today that I hadn't really heard of Zephyr before this story and what an introduction. I wouldn't trust her now. It's going to be interesting if this "restore her reputation" shit goes anywhere, but I'm thinking not.
I just want to make sure that I haven't been slipped some kind of mickey and dreamed this stuff up - weren't the consultancy fees paid to Kos and Armstrong like, $6000? Total?
Nevermind that they both were completely transparent about working as consultants and that taxpayer bucks funded the shilling for Everychild Left Behind What Isn't Fundie - what about the dollar amounts? Even Joe Dirt should be able to figure out that we're talking orders of magnitude, here.
The more these goons try to submarine Dean as DNC chair, the more resolved I am to support him. I'm sending out daily E-mails to that effect, as well.
So, anybody seen any *YEEAARGGH* clips resurfacing lately?
-
The same "pundits" run for show to show to show, the same TV owners pay them over and over again every day to say stupid things because no TV owner or TV pundit ever uses google or reads e-mails or thinks logically....look!
Social Security is going bankrupt!
Budget deficit? What's that?
Etc.
They are beyond dumb, they are criminally insane.
The answer is NO.
"My job isn't to assess the government's information and be an independent intelligence agency myself. My job is to tell readers of The New York Times what the government thought about Iraq's arsenal."
--Judith Miller
Since the Suellentrop thread is overloaded, I'm posting this here.
As some may know, Kos has posted a response to the question of whether or not any of the Kos Dozen paid him for consulting work on Drum's site, on the "Disclosure" thread dated January 14. He says none of the dozen were, and challenges those who disagree to an FEC search.
Go to Suellentrop's article, scroll down to feedback, select "Slate Comment and Corrections," and let them know what you think of Suellentrop's sliming.
This is what I wrote:
"Chris Suellentrop ("Hang Daily Kos, but not for taking money from Howard Dean," commentary, January 14) questions the ethics of Markos Moulitsas for not disclosing whether or not candidates supported by his website were among the candidates who paid him for consulting work done in 2003.
This seems a reasonable issue for Suellentrop to raise, until one realizes that official information confirming or denying this inflammatory hypothetical is available to anyone who speaks the English language and has access to the Internet.
Suellentrop lazily calls into question a public figure's ethics without bothering to do some basic fact-checking. Moulitsas has denied any of the "Kos Dozen" paid him for consulting work, and challenged anyone who thinks otherwise to do an FEC search and show the evidence.
Slate and Suellentrop owe their readers, and Moulitsas, a retraction and an apology. Suellentrop had better his homework before insinuating that a political figure has an ethics problem, or cause himself and his organization to suffer both a severe erosion of credibility and potential legal liability."
...And if there is any blame to cast let's blame the GD interns and assistants who xerox and assemble and even circle the important parts of print media extractions we media celebrities read so as to appear highly intelligent and informed.
You better circle the right important part you lazy little intern bitch...i'm a GD important news celebrity and I rule!!!!
Its like Groundhog's Day. They just keep repeating it until they make it right.
Zephyr,
May a less than gentle breeze blow you to hell. And don't let me run into you in any dark alleys in DC. Just saying.
"We need to always go and follow the money: how many federal dollars went to pay any bloggers in support of Dean? How much went to right-wing pundits?"
There's a good chance that the WSJ and the mighty Wurlitzer carpet bombed everyone with the faux "Lefty Bloggers on the Take" story to kill any followup questions about other "journalists" who might be getting kickbacks from Rove and Co.
questions the ethics of Markos Moulitsas for not disclosing whether or not candidates supported by his website were among the candidates who paid him for consulting work done in 2003.
You'd think the first thing a "journalist" should check before writing something like that is, um, whether any of those candidates did in fact pay him any money.
As far as I know, there's no law requiring disclosure of non-payments?
Oh....NotJenna. When did you start interning? Oh, don't worry. Yes, there are lots of had words in these articles and I'm glad you like your circling crayon. Here, let's go and find some ordinary intern to dump this on, OK?
hard words!!!! GD fewking interns and finger condoms....
See, y'know what pisses me off the most about this?
Look at how much time and energy is being wasted refuting this non-issue.
watertiger
Oh, it's Karl Rove's perfect storm. He got caught with his hand in the taxpayer till, paying off Armstrong Williams and American journalism is being exposed more and more as a right-wing propaganda machine....
... Howard Dean is on the rise again...
... and it's all being fanned by Left-wing bloggers.
BLAM! Fucker nailed 'em all with one bullet.
The time and energy being wasted by this non-story is bad enough; it's become obvious that as far as mainstream media goes, none of the plain-as-day facts to the contrary are going to be admitted in the court of public opinion.
The Big Lie technique works. Joe and Hermann, and the other Joe, and the other Joe, all did it. And there you have Karl's mantra: if it works, fuck it, we're on it.
Elaine--I'm not being a grammar cop, especially given my kazillion typos and bad proofing. But you've used "back-peddling" several times now, when it's "back-pedaling" (or "back-pedalling" for Brits). You know the back-pedal function on certain bicycles? That's the derivation.
I only bring this up because your "mistake" makes perfect sense once considered, and I was wondering if it was deliberate wordplay.
Elaine,
You are trying to make me weep, aren't you? Gore was probably the cleanest guy in all of politics when he ran for president. That he was labeled as a liar and accused of taking dirty money was beyond cruel. Of course, being smart is a mortal sin to red America.
They are beyond dumb, they are criminally insane.
And criminally corrupt.
I was thinking the exact same thing, Draco. I couldn't figure out how to ask without sounding snarky or nitpicky...
I believe back-peddling is a literal description of the process by which jounalists lie down and recieve the shite peddled by the adminstration. Unless they're on their knees, that is.
i before e except after c. I knew that.
Biblio - I believe back-peddling is a literal description of the process by which jounalists lie down and recieve the shite peddled by the adminstration. Unless they're on their knees, that is
I thought back-piddling was the same thing as anal leakage.
-Liddy Dole
So why is Zephyr Teachout contradicting herself?
Remember - "zephyr" rhymes with "heifer."
Or does (M)ann Coulter have right wing heiferdom cornered?
"being smart is a mortal sin to red America."
Yes, it sure is.
Small wonder the rest of the world thinks we're all ignorant.
Was it Shaw or Russell who said he was unaware of any good thing said for intelligence in all of the Bible?
Speaking of "real journalists" on the take...
Current speaking fee listings:
The major journalists set the tone for "conventional wisdom."
Brit Hume $30K-50K
http://www.speaking.com/speakers...s/
brithume.html
Andrea Mitchell $20k - 25K
http://www.speaking.com/
speakers...eamitchell.html
Lisa Meyers $10K - 15K
http://www.speaking.com/speakers.../
lisamyers.html
Lawrence Kudlow $15,001 - $25,000
CNBC, contributing editor and columnist for National Review
Mercatus Center: http://www.mercatus.org/people.p...9.html?
menuid=1
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...88892&
CFTOKEN=4 1108284
Fred Barnes Speaking fees: $7,501 - $10,000
Weekly Standard, Board of Scaife/Bradley/Coors-funded Institute Religion and Democracy http://www.ird-renew.org/News/Ne....cfm?ID=597&
c=3 Funding: http://mediatransparency.org/
sea...recipientID=174
Speaking bio at: http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...8892&
CFTOKEN=41 108284
Kate O'Beirne Speaking fees: $5,000 (if local) to $20,000
CNN Capital Gang, Washington editor of the National Review
Note - Former vice president of government relations at the Heritage Foundation
http://www.leadingauthorities.com/3727/O
Tucker Carlson $10,001 - $15,000
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...88892&
CFTOKEN=4 1108284
Robert Novak Fee - on request
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...8892&
CFTOKEN=41 108284
Lou Dobbs Fee - on request
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...892&
CFTOKEN=411 08284
Sean Hannity
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...88892&
CFTOKEN=4 1108284
John Stossel Fee range: $30K - $50K
http://www.speaking.com/
speakers...ohnstossel.html
Laura Ingraham $15,001 - $25,000
Radio show, Fox News Channel, CNN and MSNBC, Columns in newspapers including Washington Post, USA Today, and the New York Sun
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...88892&
CFTOKEN=4 1108284
Tim Russert Fee - on request
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...8892&
CFTOKEN=41 108284
Howard Fineman, Fee - on request
http://
www.kepplerassociates.com...nemanhoward.asp
Explain yourselves. I did not see any of these people post disclosures clearly stating who they were paid to speak for with a note next to everything they wrote. I did not see any of these people quit being pundits during the time they were being paid. Their lack of transparency on this matter will surely guarantee that they have no credibility among the MSM. And this is exactly the same thing as taking taxpayer money to shill on behalf of administration proposals. Lou Dobbs is no different from Armstrong
SORRY! I had no idea that would break Haloscan!
If you can, Atrios, please delete that post...
Dave, how much do we have to pay them *not* to speak?
Right now Rove would be spreading dirt on Zephyr. Who has some?
They. Are. Handing. Us. Our. Ass.
And we take it.
Current speaking fee listings:
The major journalists set the tone for "conventional wisdom."
Brit Hume $30K-50K
http://www.speaking.com/speakers...s/
brithume.html
Andrea Mitchell $20k - 25K
http://www.speaking.com/
speakers...eamitchell.html
Lisa Meyers $10K - 15K
http://www.speaking.com/speakers.../
lisamyers.html
Lawrence Kudlow $15,001 - $25,000
CNBC, contributing editor and columnist for National Review
Mercatus Center: http://www.mercatus.org/people.p...9.html?
menuid=1
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...88892&
CFTOKEN=4 1108284
Fred Barnes Speaking fees: $7,501 - $10,000
Weekly Standard, Board of Scaife/Bradley/Coors-funded Institute Religion and Democracy http://www.ird-renew.org/News/Ne....cfm?ID=597&
c=3 Funding: http://mediatransparency.org/
sea...recipientID=174
Speaking bio at: http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...8892&
CFTOKEN=41 108284
Kate O'Beirne Speaking fees: $5,000 (if local) to $20,000
CNN Capital Gang, Washington editor of the National Review
Note - Former vice president of government relations at the Heritage Foundation
http://www.leadingauthorities.com/3727/O
Tucker Carlson $10,001 - $15,000
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...88892&
CFTOKEN=4 1108284
Robert Novak Fee - on request
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...8892&
CFTOKEN=41 108284
Lou Dobbs Fee - on request
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...892&
CFTOKEN=411 08284
Sean Hannity
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...88892&
CFTOKEN=4 1108284
John Stossel Fee range: $30K - $50K
http://www.speaking.com/
speakers...ohnstossel.html
Laura Ingraham $15,001 - $25,000
Radio show, Fox News Channel, CNN and MSNBC, Columns in newspapers including Washington Post, USA Today, and the New York Sun
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...88892&
CFTOKEN=4 1108284
Tim Russert Fee - on request
http://www.washingtonspeakers.co...8892&
CFTOKEN=41 108284
Howard Fineman, Fee - on request
http://
www.kepplerassociates.com...nemanhoward.asp
Explain yourselves. I did not see any of these people post disclosures clearly stating who they were paid to speak for with a note next to everything they wrote. I did not see any of these people quit being pundits during the time they were being paid. Their lack of transparency on this matter will surely guarantee that they have no credibility among the MSM. And this is exactly the same thing as taking taxpayer money to shill on behalf of administration proposals. Lou Dobbs is no different from Armstrong
dave | Thanks dave, quite informing. This info deserves a General dose of inspired [snark/]...
This whole "scandal" with Dean ... making such a big deal out of it when, even if it may be unethical is not even 1/10th as bad as what the current admin has done in the same vein, is so Simpsons-esque ... it reminds me of two episodes:
(1) Side-Show Bob for mayor: don't vote for Quimby who released Side Show Bob -- he's too soft on crime -- vote for Side Show Bob himself.
and more specifically for this "scandal":
(2) Where Homer gets pulled over for drunk driving, and is thrown in jail for it, but Chief Wiggum lets Barney, who is clearly even more drunk, drive away with the car.
But more than the Simpsons, IOKIYAR ideology reminds me of something Jesus said to these kinds of bastards -- something about not complaining about the splinter in someone else's eye when you have a stick in yours ...
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