I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Well, as I posted below, Mr. McAuliffe certainly has his finger on the pulse:
Outgoing Democratic Party chairman Terry McAuliffe sent a defiant message to members as Republicans celebrated Mr Bush's inauguration.
"Today... Republicans are hoping that we'll fade into the background," he wrote. "They're hoping that for the next two years we'll sit on the
sidelines, and let them ram their agenda through.
"But we Democrats will never step aside. While Bush tries to build his
legacy on a series of attacks against working families, the middle class and seniors, Democrats will be there to stand up."
All together now: In the Corproate State, corporate media are State Media...
I guess Bob will be getting a Visit from the Idiot in the Morning and the Cheney's so he can get abroad the Hume fan wagon. How dare he dispute Britt's faux facts
Nothing short of complete control will do. Until the media is willing to present nothing but conservatives and conservative views, then they simply demonstrate how liberally biased they are.
In other words, conservatism withers and dies when exposed even briefly to liberal thoughts. That must be one mighty strong philosophy!
Somebody call the conservatives a WAAAAAmbulance.
Is it me, or have the news gotten even worse lately. I mean there's always been a conservative bias, but it just seems so god damn blatent lately. ARGGHGHHGHGHGHGHG!!!!!!!
So are we allowed to go after Fox for their Conservative bias? When was the last time they had any liberals on their programs?
And when, finally, all the networks only feature republican guests, how then will the conservatives scream liberal bias?
Oh, because the the hosts will ask "hard kweschuns", I guess.
So are we allowed to go after Fox for their Conservative bias? When was the last time they had any liberals on their programs?
StuTheSheep | Email | Homepage | 01.21.05 - 3:09 pm | #
Oh, they have "Holy Joe" and Susan Estrich on there all the time.
I gotta hand it to them -- they are more disciplined than Newt Gingrich after a visit to his favorite dominatrix.
It's like Karl Rove issues the talking point of the week, and they beat us over the head with it until we're comatose.
So are we allowed to go after Fox for their Conservative bias? When was the last time they had any liberals on their programs?
StuTheSheep | Email | Homepage | 01.21.05 - 3:09 pm | #
Oh, they have "Holy Joe" and Susan Estrich on there all the time.
int argc | Email | Homepage | 01.21.05 - 3:10 pm | #
As I said, when was the last time they had any liberals on their programs? 
And now Kennedy has his own show on Massachusetts local access cable, too. We must pity the poor, powerless Conservatives when they ask "can this leftist media juggernaut be stopped? Will conservative voices ever be heard in this country?"
So are we allowed to go after Fox for their Conservative bias? When was the last time they had any liberals on their programs?
They're gettin' Zel. How much more "liberal" do you want it?
Anybody hear anything about the Plame grand jury lately?
The question that comes to mind is..
who the fuck is conservanediaborg?
And do we have to respond to every gnat in the land?
At what point can I put my feet up, sip my margie, pull off my skinny, and say,
"Fuck'em." With total confidence?
How about the NYPost today, whining that that the conservatives only influence 20% of media. As "nine tenths of editors and national reporters vote Democratic."
Now, why is that? Could it be that the media knows what's up, and prefers not to have wool pulled up to eye level. And are educated? "Elite?"
To me, elite is a good thing. The alternative being the "stupid."
But even the lib media got testosteroned in the last Embed War thing.
Conservamediaborg? It's a little chilly out for g-nats. So, fuck'em.
Stu, that's a highly astute idea. One problem. Who's listening?
And don't talk to me about ambulances at the moment.
Yes, there's certainly no reason to be concerned about the conservative control of the mass media.
If you're fucking stupid, that is.
Dear Haloscan,
Please stop. Thank you.
Now, what was that 'all star' line up that discussed CBS's left lean with Brit 'Droopy' Hume, again?
Whoa... that last comment was in reply to one that apparently got wiped out when haloscan tanked.
Ah, Hell-o-scan returns.
Conservatives are crybabies.
Chisel that in stone.
Alternative media is the way to go.
The left has been very successful in the past using cable television's public access and the internet is priceless. The Kerry campaign waged a pretty successful opinion campaign in newspapers and that needs to be kept up --I think Dean is the kind of leader who will focus on these things.
We need to find ways to get the message out and to keep confronting the lies being perpetuated by the SCLM
Jebus, haloscan is really fucked up today.
that's cool language from Terry McAuliffe...
Ack, what's up with Haloscan at the moment?
OT: Protests in many cities, inspiring photos:
http://www.commondreams.org/head...s05/0121-
03.htm
Off Topic -- anybody know anything about this (LTTE, Lubbock paper)?
Story last updated at 12:21 a.m. Wednesday, January 19, 2005
Privatized Social Security
The column by Morton Kondracke in The A-J on Jan. 12 was very good. I wish Mr. Kondracke would have included some facts which would have bolstered his case for privatizing Social Security.
I would refer you to an article several years ago that appeared in the Investor's Business Daily publication. It points out that three counties in East Texas pulled out of the Social Security System in 1981 and set up their own privatized retirement program. Congress closed the loophole that allowed that two years later.
The Texas program makes more money than Social Security writes the author, Stephen Glass. Besides retirement, it functions as a generous life-insurance policy, paying the survivors a minimum of $50,000.
The counties involved are Galveston, Brazoria and Matagorda. The employees and employers kick in an equal amount, just as in Social Security, but the money doesn't go to Washington. Instead, the fund works like a private annuity.
The results have been far superior to Social Security. Since 1981, it has averaged 6.5 percent annual return, compared to 2.2 percent for a worker on Social Security.
Burt Jamus, a 40-year-old middle manager for Galveston County, figures he will receive $5,474 a month after he retires, compared with $1,042 under Social Security. I wonder if he wishes he were still covered by Social Security?
Let your readers reconsider their position on whether Social Security should be privatized!
WILLIAM G. BYARS/Lubbock
Google gives me nothing newer than 1996!
POsted this at the end of
a previous thread
which seems to deceased, but again:
I have an advance copy of a Cheney
speech in which he refers
approvingly to "the Black Goat of
the Woods With a Thousand Young."
Anybody know what that means?
So is haloscan definitively back yet?
In other words, conservatism withers and dies when exposed even briefly to liberal thoughts. That must be one mighty strong philosophy!
Derelict
Exactly. Can't convince students on campuses of the merits of conservative philosophy? Attack administrators for hiring "biased" faculty. Can't convince the populace of the merits of conservatism (especially since it is unclear what that means these days)? Launch a full-fledged propaganda channel and bully every other outlet to fall in line. Can't convince African Americans that your racist, piece of shit party will ever represent their interests? Hire Toms to promote your policies in exchange for cold hard cash. One would think that the party of personal responsibility wouldn't have to resort to these measures to promote its now-disjointed and incoherent philosophies.
Out of meetings! YES!
But what liberal media?
It is time to restore the Fairness Doctrine. Lets really make them go wahhhhh!
http://www.fairnessdoctrine.com/
oh shit, Intie made me laugh. Waaambulance! not bad junior
They're slithering from under the rocks.
It's like a plague of fucking smallpox.
It's an O.T. attack
Of wackfundie ack-ack.
Jesus Christ must be barfing his lox.
Is haloscan major league fubar
today or is it just me?
And when, finally, all the networks only feature republican guests, how then will the conservatives scream liberal bias?
They won't be wingnuttian enough for the wingnuts, at a guess. Too many McCains and Giulianis and Patakis, etc.
I'm sick and tired of this liberal media bullshit. What the hell is going on? It seems that we liberals lack balls. My proposal is to engage with all those conservatives to go "mano a mano". Bring it on "culeros" I'll teach them a lesson or two. By the way the first one I want to engage is that pussy that claims he's been in Latin America dodging bullets. El Loco
Not to mention all the Turducken panels before the election: one batshit wingnut, two journalists and David Brooks.
Is it me, or have the news gotten even worse lately. I mean there's always been a conservative bias, but it just seems so god damn blatent lately. ARGGHGHHGHGHGHGHG!!!!!!!
scoopernicus
I think the NPR pobahs have had enough. It seems to have gotten better since the election.
IOKIYSCUM
"But we Democrats will never step aside. While Bush tries to build his
legacy on a series of attacks against working families, the middle class and seniors, Democrats will be there to stand up."
After how the Dems rolled over the certifying the electors and the bowing to Rice at her hearing (so far), I find that laughable.
And it's easy for Terry to say that when he's one foot out the door. The Dems (as a unit) had plenty of opportunity to shout that Bush had no clothes during the 2004 election.
We need to find ways to get the message out and to keep confronting the lies being perpetuated by the SCLM
Well, look at what the Repug upstarts did in Kansas and look at the kind of organization and coordination MLKJ was in charge of.
People like us across the nation, who are experiencing some liberal fire in their hearts, should get involved in their local politicas. Get elected or help a friend get elected. Take it over.
Atrios should try to start coordinating stuff, instead of just providing a place for us to learn about things and... vent.
We should organize something as to how we're all going to spread the truth around our communities, on a consistent basis. Just like the anti-abortion movement did.
HALOSCAN ~ BITE ME!
woowoo!
Steve, it's pretty fubar. Every time I close the window HS reverts to an earlier iteration, so I can't see the new comments unless I comment. Which means I can't refresh unless I close and reopen the window, which starts the problem all over again...
"Somebody call the conservatives a WAAAAAmbulance."
intie make me laugh!!!!
HaloScan is acting funny on me so someone else might have said this--Is the point of watertiger's Terry Mac post that he's written something worthwhile or that the SOB's about 4 years late, suddenly advocating--on his way out--a position he actively discouraged before? Does Terry Mac realize he's a prominent cause of the Dems' sorry state?
Why does HaloScan make the baby Clenis™ cry?
Is this thing working?
Central Scrutinizer, that's funny shit!
i feel good! i just corrected a young student and in doing so, made the 'light' go on in her head that today's SCLM isn't to be trusted.
....and of course i passed on this website so she can find out some truth. one mind at a time, people. we can do this.
The question that comes to mind is..
who the fuck is conservanediaborg?
And do we have to respond to every gnat in the land?
At what point can I put my feet up, sip my margie, pull off my skinny, and say,
"Fuck'em." With total confidence?
How about the NYPost today, whining that that the conservatives only influence 20% of media. As "nine tenths of editors and national reporters vote Democratic."
Now, why is that? Could it be that the media knows what's up, and prefers not to have wool pulled up to eye level. And are educated? "Elite?"
To me, elite is a good thing. The alternative being the "stupid."
But even the lib media got testosteroned in the last Embed War thing.
Conservamediaborg? It's a little chilly out for g-nats. So, fuck'em.
Steve,
My previous post should answer your question.
is this one of those days when you have to post to see the thread?
Robin Wright is very pleasurable to watch.
haloscan.
phhphht.
sorry, me Halo got snorked.
Is haloscan major league fubar
today or is it just me?
steve simels
Um, the two aren't mutually exclusive, are they? 
anyone know if the fox news thing with judy bacharach is downloadable anywhere and not streaming?
Does Terry Mac realize he's a prominent cause of the Dems' sorry state?
that one.
wow. john negroponte is going to be on.
when i want to get information, i write a letter to the devil in my own blood, roll it up and put it in a bottle, bury it in my backyard, and dig it up three days later to see if there's an answer. i haven't got any answers yet, but it's still more accurate and dependable than trying to get information from televised news programs.
i may be crazy, but at least i'm not insane.
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See if I write it enough despite evidence to the contrary, it will be true!! Isnt it great that Mort Zuckerman still gives me a paycheck even though I am so friggin out of it while Joe Conason and Eric Alterman get no national exposure?
Does Terry Mac realize he's a prominent cause of the Dems' sorry state?
So, let's just take the language he uses in the quote and modify it to make it the party line. No guilt.
How come I can't see recent comments?
If T-Mac had been doing his job, we wouldn't HAVE issues like whether there was adequate Democratic face time on these shows.
Asleep at the wheel.
HUME: Ted Kennedy makes a very partisan speech this week. Ted Kennedy is not the large figure that he once was in American life and probably will never be again. And he is the sole guest on the CBS program this morning.
If he's "not the large figure that he once was in American life" - why the hissy fit?
I see structural biases that have continuously accumulated to the point where those out of power are constantly undercut before they get out of bed in the morning.
Just one example: Who says that the media MUST serve as the government's
stenographer, taking down and reporting every official pronouncement as it it were fact? No wonder the American public can't get a clear and accurate picture
of what's being done in their name. Without verification, governmental claims should not be given headline billing no matter who they originate from. If CBS can be chastised for failing to verify a story claiming to document Bush's escape from service, then every news media ought to be chastised for conveying claims by the administration without first getting dissenting opinions.
The model for political news ought to be the current model for science news. No matter how authoritative a pronouncement is in science news magaines, reporters are obliged to call up and get the responses of a wide range of experts, and any dissenting views (and praise) are reported at the same time as the
original announcement.
The news media have this thing about being first with breaking news--even if they are reporting BS. Frankly, most of the public couldn't tell you who got a story out first. I suspect only people in the news profession even care. Within minutes of any urgent news, one can get the same information from a dozen sources.
The media would be a hundred times more useful if routine governmental announcements that are timed just before deadlines were automatically delayed 24 hours in order to allow reporters to check out the veracity of the claims. I'm a news junky, but I find very little news that couldn't wait 24 hours for a thorough doublecheck. I generally prefer weekly news magazines that make such an attempt to get a range of views.
Instead of 50 or more reporters sitting in the White House pressroom (talking to each other) and waiting for the word from on high, I'd have them out researching stories in every nook and cranny. The story that readers deserve to get is not what officials say but what they do when they are not in front of the
cameras. Stop showing the President waving to non-existant crowds. We've seen enough of President's waving for a dozen lifetimes.
The media is acting like an arm of the government. That encourages and
reinforces governmental spin and outright lies. If TV news is going to boil the day's news down to a few headlines that get repeated from 3 to 5 times in hype for the show, then they damn well ought to insure the listeners that they have verified or tried to verify the picture they are presenting.
I've watched Bryan Williams for years with interest because I admired the insight and candor he tried to bring when he was on CNBC. Now that he's the anchor of NBC Evening News, he is squeezed into even smaller slots between a dozen prescription drug commercials. Although an occa
Speaking of censorship - my Atrios page says ther are 63 comments here, but I only count about 13 on my screen, even when I refresh.
Maybe haloscan doesn't like this topic. This is the first time I've ever had a thread get shorter when I hit "refresh".
I think Haloscan may have a constipation problem. It's all backed up.
Yeah, I had to post a comment to see the last hour of comments.
Hate to mention it, but where are all the trolls today?
Too much Strawberry Hill last night, do you suppose?
Sounds like maybe Brit would like to see the Fairness Doctrine restored, but call it the Foxness doctrine.
"Thou shalt never book a liberal unless he is meek and outnumbered."
Next week on "Meet the Press," Ridgecrest, California's Billie Miller.
the Black Goat of
the Woods With a Thousand Young.
He was referring to himself.
haloscan has been infiltrated, methinks.
Presto jingo. I posted and the other 50 appeared!
(See, the censors fear the light of day!)
Ted Kennedy is not the large figure that he once was in American life
Britt (what kind of name is that for a guy, anyway?) needs toget some new spectacles, Ted is looking pretty large to me these days.
If CBS can be chastised for failing to verify a story claiming to document Bush's escape from service, then every news media ought to be chastised for conveying claims by the administration without first getting dissenting opinions.
But it's not my job to verify what my sources tell me: as a reporter, it's only my job to report what I am told to report.
Repeat-
How about the NYPost today, whining that that the conservatives only influence 20% of media. As "nine tenths of editors and national reporters vote Democratic."
Now, why is that? Could it be that the media knows what's up, and prefers not to have wool pulled up to eye level. And are educated? "Elite?"
To me, elite is a good thing. The alternative being the "stupid."
But even the lib media got testosteroned in the last Embed War thing. It'a weird to see both sides claiming the other side controls the media. I'd give it to the libs frankly, it's just that, just like in tocuh football, the loudest assholes usually win. (see FOX)
OT,
Global Warming Caused Mass Extinction
Jan. 21, 2005 — Global warming, not an asteroid impact, was to blame for the mass extinction of species 250 million years ago, an international team of researchers reports in the latest issue of Science magazine.
Hate to mention it, but where are all the trolls today?
Oh, they've been here. rob is still with us, and there was a very amateur one a couple of threads down. It turns out, though, that "Ignore Trolls Friday" bores them.
The Other Sarah: google for 'Galveston Plan'. There's a long article on it here.
Key findings indicate that, in general, the Galveston Plan offers higher initial benefits than Social Security to workers with higher earnings and/or in cases where there are no dependents that would qualify under Social Security. Social Security tends to offer higher initial benefits than the Galveston Plan to workers with lower earnings and/or to families with dependents who qualify for Social Security benefits.
The biggest issue, I think, is whether 'Galvestonizing' Social Security en masse would distort the market for conservative guaranteed minimum funds. Any economists want to chip in?
Jesus Christ must be barfing his lox
Now That's a mental image you don't have every day.
Thanks, Lime Rickey.
Want some cheese with that whine, dimbulbs?
HUME: Ted Kennedy makes a very partisan speech this week. Ted Kennedy is not the large figure that he once was in American life and probably will never be again. And he is the sole guest on the CBS program this morning.
Oh, no! Not a "partisan" speech! What will we tell the children!
Honestly, why do we nod sagely when people say things like this? Or when Bush says: "America will not impose our own style of government on the unwilling." Why don't we point and howl and bang our feet, and point out that not only is the Emperor naked, he's a drooling idiot, too? And so is Condi, and Gonzalez, and Cheney...
...why don't we make them earn our respect, rather than give it them because they're on TV, and we're not?
If he's "not the large figure that he once was in American life" - why the hissy fit?
Your mission, should you choose to accept it:
Say or write "rich conservative elites" at least once EVERY DAY for the rest of your life (or until the rich stop screwing us all over, whichever comes first) ESPECIALLY in your letters to newspapers.
The model for political news ought to be the current model for science news. No matter how authoritative a pronouncement is in science news magaines, reporters are obliged to call up and get the responses of a wide range of experts, and any dissenting views (and praise) are reported at the same time as the original announcement.
This was a good comment. Of course if things were like that, we'd be in the garden of eden... we've got a way to go...
Right on, Judy!
How about the NYPost today, whining that that the conservatives only influence 20% of media. As "nine tenths of editors and national reporters vote Democratic."
A bit of a strawman here, methinks.
Dear NYPost
Prove all those reporters and editors vote dem.
Thanks,
Reality.
Jan. 21, 2005 — Global warming, not an asteroid impact, was to blame for the mass extinction of species 250 million years ago, an international team of researchers reports in the latest issue of Science magazine.
But but but global warming is an elite liberal scientist media secular conspiracy!
If in the marketplace of ideas conservatism is unable to withstand the competition of liberalism, does that not mean that it is the weaker idea? Seems to me this need to eliminate all dissent/liberalism demonstrates the inherent weaknesses of modern American conservatism, and not the weakness of liberalism. If liberalism was really so weak then it would simply have failed on it's own when there still was something resembling balance/fairness in the coverage time each received.
If conservatism is so powerful, so strong, and so correct, then it should be able to withstand scrutiny, critiques, and criticism without fear and without the need to claim any other POV is somehow inherently anti-American/treasonous. Yet despite the current stranglehold the conservative POV has in the corporate media market on top of the dominance of the conservative media (talk radio&FoxNews) there is such fear of the competing POV that the conservative critics of media have to still claim that the media is run by the "liberal elites" to rebut anything that contradicts the "all-powerful" conservative viewpoint.
Then of course there is the inherent "shrillness" liberalism is supposedly full of, yet when people like A coulter publish screeds denouncing all liberals as Traitors (titling the book that way as well as hailing it as the base premise), that isn't shrillness, it is simply the reality of the situation according to those that claim liberals are being shrill. The degree of inherent contradiction between the words of conservatives these days and the actual reality is staggering in it's scale, and it is hard to see how it maintains this without collapsing at some point under the weight of it's own deceptions.
What is really tragic is that this method requires the willing blindness of its followers to work, and that America is unfortunately really prone to such. Look at the anti-intellectualism that is rampant throughout conservatism these days in America. One only finds isolated pockets that do not see intellectual capability as inherently a bad thing. So it is no wonder that myths like liberal media bias and the idea that conservatism/religion is under siege/persecution in today's America.
This is truly sickening to see in a country that has legally mandated freedom of speech/expression, particularly political speech from its inception.
If one more wing nut says "liberl bias" I'll puke my egg and jalapeno burrito on their face.
Ted is looking pretty large to me these days.
...he said in his best Stephen Stucker voice.
If he's "not the large figure that he once was in American life" - why the hissy fit?
That's a hard kweschin for Brit.
But he's not paid to think, is he.
HEY HEY HEY!!!!
WHERE ARE THE KITTIES????
Re:
Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young...
That's Condi's AOL screen name
beating my favorite dead horse, let me once again remind everyone that they have no power over us if we don't watch and pay them our money for their ridiculous excuses for news programs. throw away the tv, cancel you subscriptions to the SCLM that offends you, and save that money and reading time for the blogs. and tell everyone you know to do the same.
end rant.
"the Black Goat of
the Woods With a Thousand Young."
Steve--
you're farking kidding, right?
But but but global warming is an elite liberal scientist media secular conspiracy!
So are the dinosaurs...
...see? It even comes with its own bow.
I think the NPR pobahs have had enough. It seems to have gotten better since the election.
orbitron
You have got to be joking.
This week they interviewed some nutjob from FreeRepublic claiming that letting innauguration protesters have an area set up for them was like setting up an area for Osama Bin Ladin and Saddam Hussein.
Also, they interviewed Karl Rove and when questioned about Bush's low ratings, Rove responded that there are plenty of polls that say Bush is doing great. The interviewer didn't think to ask, "What f'n polls?"
WHERE ARE THE KITTIES????
Soon as I get home... I have catblogging to contribute this week!
I am right here Holdie-
all twenty of me.
including-
Mapplethorpes Cross
Olaf (no insult to the great and big) the Idiot
Reality Base One
Rob
Da Trufe
The Towering Babble
Son of Sybil
etceteras.
It's just that, the lithium seems to be working today.
Fuck Brit Hume.
To be fair though (who me?) Robin Wright isn't a winger. I think she's a pretty straight up reporter who regularly and cheerfully notes that Iraq is a clusterfuck.
Okay, return to your regularly scheduled snarking !!!
I saw Ann Couter's books advertised at Wing Nut Daily fer a dollar.
How about the NYPost today, whining that that the conservatives only influence 20% of media. As "nine tenths of editors and national reporters vote Democratic."
There are out of the closet Dems. in the news media who clearly have a conservative bias because they are liberal and do not want to be perceived as being biased: I give you Nick Kristoff as an example. Interestingly, many conservatives do not have such a fear of even apparent impropriety.
Additionally, even if the majority of reporters and editors are libs, the important questions are who controls what stories are pursued in the first place and who are the big names in punditry and deciding editorial content. In both cases, even if these people are nominally Dems., they are entirely beholden to moneyed Republican interests and know that if they stray from the Rethug party line they will get necklaced. Look at what happened to Dan Rather vs. what hasn't happened to Judith Miller.
As Greg Palast points out, it may very well be the case that the majority of people in the news biz are Dems., but the media is in it for the money and power and the money and even more importantly the power comes from cozying up to the Rethugs.
I am sure Woody Guthrie's guitar might have a few things to add here ...
RMJ,
Sigh, you got me. Fundies have an invulnerable circle of illogic.
HEY HEY HEY!!!!
WHERE ARE THE KITTIES????
Art | Email | Homepage | 01.21.05 - 4:20 pm | #
i feel Ba'al has abandoned me for not compelling the A man to get us our cats.
the power of Ishtar compels you!
we'll see how that works.
I saw Ann Couter's books advertised at Wing Nut Daily fer a dollar.
ÔżÔ
Sell!
I saw Ann Couter's books advertised at Wing Nut Daily fer a dollar.
That's pretty expensive kindling...
Speaking of rich conservative elites -- couldn't she just BUY one?
Hilton Faces Theft & Vandalism Charges
Socialite Paris Hilton is to face charges of theft and vandalism after allegedly stealing a copy of her One Night In Paris DVD from a Los Angeles newsstand last month. Images from the newsagents' surveillance camera have already appeared in US tabloids and seem to clearly show the Simple Life star reaching out for a copy of the X-rated DVD and then putting it in her bag. And now, according to scandal show Celebrity Justice, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department is getting involved. Swing News newsstand employee Jerry Castro, who was on duty when Hilton paid him a visit, claims the socialite was in great spirits until she saw her DVD was on sale. Castro says, "As soon as she saw that we were selling her videos and we had her on display she was livid. She was using profanity to the ultimate. She threw her eighty cents change at me and took the video and said, 'I'm taking this and I'm not buying it.'" The surveillance video seems to back up Castro's claims that Paris not only took the DVD but also tried to rip a poster advertising it.
Wow - haloscan is back up. I went out and when I came back no haloscan.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the wing nuts are moaning and howling about Kennedy. They hate him.
Right. The corporate media has a liberal bias. And 2+2=5, black is white, the chocolate ration is being increased and we've always been at war with Eurasia.
the power of Ishtar compels you!
And a really bad Barbara Streisand movie is supposed to affect him... how?
Jan. 21, 2005 — Global warming, not an asteroid impact, was to blame for the mass extinction of species 250 million years ago, an international team of researchers reports in the latest issue of Science magazine.
Bullflop. The dinosaurs died of smoking. Far Side told me so.
chicago dyke--
If it wasn't for this blog, I wouldn't know Hume was still on TV, what O'Reilly last said, who Hannity & Colmes are, or that FoxNews exists.
Or, for that matter, that Dan Rather is still doing the news. Or was, I guess.
And still the machine rumbles on.....
They hate him
They hate everyone. I think they even hate themselves.
Ok, I'd like to hang out, but if I'm going to be posting comments here I'm never going to get through eating my lunch and I'll never get any work done.
See yas later.
"dear ny post
prove all those reporters and editors vote dem."
-john
good point. those numbers smell like ass to me too.
I'm misspelling lots of words today. Sorry - typing too fast.
pseudonymous in nc, nice link. Gingrich let it slip today that the real purpose of SS privatization is (of course) boosting the markets with an influx of capital. Wonder if the public would think that this is a legitimate reason to destroy our main source of retirement insurance?
RMJ,
PBUYou. I thought Global Warming was God's way of posting an "eviction" sign on the house humanity. Or just one more clever little equation within the grand Intelligent Design, lowering our need for heating oil no. 2. At any rate, it real friggin' cold out today, so, gun your SUV if ya got one for me.
Toshimi sez:
Also, they interviewed Karl Rove and when questioned about Bush's low ratings, Rove responded that there are plenty of polls that say Bush is doing great. The interviewer didn't think to ask, "What f'n polls?"
That was...wait for it...you'll never guess... Wan Williams!!!
NPR, IMHO, has gotten worse since the election.
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Hate to mention it, but where are all the trolls today?
Too much Strawberry Hill last night, do you suppose?
Holden Caulfield
They're busy "re-stocking" all the bottles in mom's liquor cabinet with tap water. Mmmm, nothing like a gin-n-rum-n-whiskey-n-Sprite while flippin' the minnow to footage of Jenna.
watertiger - Ooh, I wish we could see a TV show: Paris goes to Jail.
I'd almost watch that one. Maybe.
Nah.
Shorter Brit Hume: Hey, no fair, your team showed up for the game and played by the rules. I thought we had a deal, you lie down, I stomp on you.
Bullflop. The dinosaurs died of smoking. Far Side told me so.
John
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I remember that one. Thanks for the laugh.
Yoshimi...sorry.
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This week they interviewed some nutjob from FreeRepublic claiming that letting innauguration protesters have an area set up for them was like setting up an area for Osama Bin Ladin and Saddam Hussein.
And they only read ONE letter of the undoubtedly thousands that poured in to complain about it. They spent more time reading fan mail gushing about some innocuous story they'd done.
I'm misspelling lots of words today. Sorry - typing too fast.
I didn't post this, which means our namestealing friend is back. Or that rob's picking up new bad habits, whichever.
Ishtar has always been at war with the Black Goat.
OT:
From today's Moonie Times:
We are at war in Iraq, not on Iraq, which we have liberated.
WTF is the difference with war "on" Iraq and war "in" Iraq?
"I'm not waging war on you, but in you. Can't your stupid moonbat mind comprehend the difference?"
"the Black Goat of
the Woods With a Thousand Young."
Steve--
you're farking kidding, right?
Nieves | Email | Homepage
Nieves: Yes, of course.
It's a reaction to that Lovecraftian
line in Bush's speech yesterday -- that
we have a calling from beyond the stars
nonsense.
Global warming, not an asteroid impact, was to blame for the mass extinction of species 250 million years ago, an international team of researchers reports in the latest issue of Science magazine.
Can't be true. Almighty God created the earth and all things on it less than 10,000 years ago.
[/fundie]
Four Legs Good wrote:
To be fair though (who me?) Robin Wright isn't a winger. I think she's a pretty straight up reporter who regularly and cheerfully notes that Iraq is a clusterfuck.
FLG, did you see what went on today in Iraq? Just when you think you've seen it all, it just gets more gruesome.
(I am refering especially to the car bombing of wedding parties and the ability of insurgents to drive up in a car, attack an Iraqi soldier and behead him right there on the spot in broad daylight (Ramadi).)
formerly your four-legged friend smarty jones, but now
WHERE ARE THE KITTIES????
Ba'al compells me to tell ya the kitty is right here BITCH!!
Feel better?
Art likes Robin Wright. She seems to be an honest analyst.
And she is hot in a Tina Feyish sort of way, only a wee bit more dressed up.
pie - They hate everyone. I think they even hate themselves.
You know, that's the only explanation that occurs to me for their bitterness and rage, too.
One of Grand Moff Texan's diaries as Kos had a line that I thought made so much sense. The people who are so bitter against us apparently are deeply pissed that they tune into popular culture and they don't see themselves there. I think that's right.
hmmm I notice there are far more liberal posts on this blog than conservative. what's that all about?
watertiger - Ooh, I wish we could see a TV show: Paris goes to Jail.
Paris Island... now that might be interesting
"Gingrich let it slip today that the real purpose of SS privatization is (of course) boosting the markets with an influx of capital. Wonder if the public would think that this is a legitimate reason to destroy our main source of retirement insurance?"
It is relatively common knowledge on the street that the capital markets have already been buoyed by the prospect of Bush's great givaway.
Until it became clear, early this year, that that's a dead horse on arrival. Which is one of the reasons the market has skidded in 2005. IMLTHO
We are at war in Iraq, not on Iraq, which we have liberated.
Ummm, that's just wrong on so many levels.
Sheesh.
I didn't post this, which means our namestealing friend is back. Or that rob's picking up new bad habits, whichever.
That's. Just. Great.
fourlegsgood - What a darling kitten!
damn - I want every kitten I see.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the wing nuts are moaning and howling about Kennedy. They hate him.
Tena
Ah, so that's why my comment got struck from Freeperville when I posted about that public service award Bush I gave to Teddy a while back.
We are at war in Iraq, not on Iraq, which we have liberated.
This from a party that made Clinton's "What the meaning of 'is' is" a punchline for like 3 years.
Creative parsing... IOKIYAR!
WTF is the difference with war "on" Iraq and war "in" Iraq?
"I'm not laughing 'at' you, I'm laughing 'near' you." -- Robin Williams
pie - They hate everyone. I think they even hate themselves.
The people who are so bitter against us apparently are deeply pissed that they tune into popular culture and they don't see themselves there.
Epiphany over here. It's all starting to make sense.
Jan. 21, 2005 — Global warming, not an asteroid impact, was to blame for the mass extinction of species 250 million years ago, an international team of researchers reports in the latest issue of Science magazine.
Human beings are no different than bacteria. You give them the perfect growing medium and nutrients, which we've had for the last several hundred years, and their population will boom. Eventually, there's a correction and you have a population crash killing off usually about 95%which is was we're about to experience.
Mother Nature doesn't get mad, she gets even.
It's a reaction to that Lovecraftian
line in Bush's speech yesterday -- that
we have a calling from beyond the stars
nonsense.
steve simels
Oh, I thought aWol was just talking about Mars again.
FLG, did you see what went on today in Iraq? Just when you think you've seen it all, it just gets more gruesome.
I missed that- one stop terra-ism. Holy moly! In the meantime we got wingnuts galore screaming, "we painted some skools!! pay attention!!! everything is FINE HERE!!"
BTW, I'm quite sad to hear smarty jones is going bald. It must have been a blow to lose his mane.
the power of Ishtar compels you!
And a really bad Barbara Streisand movie is supposed to affect him... how?
RCSanders | Email | Homepage | 01.21.05 - 4:24 pm | #
(sniff)
obviously, you missed all the crowing i did the other day about my field. i should have said Inanna, her sumerian name.
but perhaps you are onto something! (and hoffman and a french actress are in it i recall) it's one of the worst movies ever made, right?
ok, atrios- you've been warned. don't make us force your eyeballs open while we play an endless loop of that film. give us the kitties. or else.
"I'm not waging war on you, but in you. Can't your stupid moonbat mind comprehend the difference?"
The_Truth
Actually, there is a difference and war "in" iraq is more descriptive...
as in, "The shrapnel from the 500 lb. American bomb entered into the young girl's brain, killing her instantly."
I think that's right.
They surely want to stop the speeding train. Hell, try as they might, they can't even slow it down (not that they didn't almost achieve some little success with their beloved chimpster). Must frustrate the shit out of them.
But it's not my job to verify what my sources tell me: as a reporter, it's only my job to report what I am told to report. - Judith Effing Miller
I'm with you Judy (btw - are you available tommorrow night? George, Gwen and I are having a little 'inaugural' party at my place ... we're gonna give George a special treat by inviting a certain Andy Sullivan -- we know they both have a thing for each other and it's about time GWB got his man-date he's been all happy about getting since the election) ... for some reason people think it was my job to actually advise the president on matters of national security instead of just doing whatever PR flak job I was tasked to do. I guess these are the same people who think a reporter should verify stories (that's the anchor's job, isn't it?) or stick to the facts when there are other sides to the story, etc.
Oh well - you just can't please everyone, can you?
flg, smarty jones is dead. I killed him and out of his ashes rose a balding man.
R.I.P. smarty.
fourlegsgood - What a darling kitten!
That's one of Zach's baby pictures. Zach is an angel now- but tell me he wasn't the cutest fucking kitten ever?
Unfortunately you can't see his paws- he has enormous paws to go with the radar dish ears.
didn't post this, which means our namestealing friend is back. Or that rob's picking up new bad habits, whichever.
That's. Just. Great.
Name stealer. I guess he just sits around and waits for me to comment. What a life! I had no idea I was so fatally attractive to this fuckwit.
I wish he'd get a real girlfriend. I"m married.
pie - you know patience? with the gecko?
?? No Cat-Blogging ??
Only for or five people on this rock like Ishtar.
I'm one of them.
Sad, innit?
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Re the Ann Coulter discount books--I knew someone who shall remain nameless from the UF-Gainesville English Dep't who worked at a bookstore and got his/her hands on a big cache of $1 "Final Exit" copies (the do-it-yourself euthanasia book that was a "surprise best seller" in the early 90s).
S/he went to the dep't mailroom with a bundle and placed them in the mailboxes of about 2 dozen notorious losers s/he couldn't stand, or had just heard nasty gossip about.
It was the talk of the dep't for several days, profs and grad students and even secretarries asking "Did you get a Final Exit?" People recognized the pattern soon enough of assholes getting the books.
Conflict of interest disclaimer--one was placed to fill a request by Draco
Anyhoo, seeing that picture you guys can understand why I'm jonesing for some more maine coon kittens.
Sore wa neko des ka
Ou son les chats? Je voudrois chats.
Quiero fotografias de los gatos ahora.
R.I.P. smarty.
did you kill los angeles angels of anaheim, too?
seems you're on a killin' spree
"pie - They hate everyone. I think they even hate themselves."
You nailed it sweetie!
Nice bullseye.
Tommy,
That's not my style. You gotta admit I'm a little more head on than that.
"Altercation" today lists some data from "Media Matters" about the appearance of Libs vs Rightwingnuts on TV networks.
Natch, the Nuts outnumber the Libs.
And while traitors like Novak (Plame?), barfers like O'Reilly & Hannity, buffoons like Buchanan & his sister, not to mention fools like Blankly, O'Beirne and Scarborough, all have regular gigs on TV "talk shows", how come Alterman, Conason, Lyons or Ivins don't get a squat?
Methinks there is media bias ... against Liberals or truth about Bushboy & the Goopers.
It is relatively common knowledge on the street that the capital markets have already been buoyed by the prospect of Bush's great givaway.
Until it became clear, early this year, that that's a dead horse on arrival. Which is one of the reasons the market has skidded in 2005.
The anti-privatization argument should include some form of this argument: "Are you willing to give up retirement insurance so that rich conservative elites can make more money?"
catblogging is really just a more genteel form of blogwhoring, isn't it? don't get me wrong, i like the kitties as much as anyone. but it's a way to get hits.
i'm not as smart as i thought. i just figured that out.
Tommy,
That's not my style. You gotta admit I'm a little more head on than that.
Lumpen II-nee Der Bingle | Email | Homepage | 01.21.05 - 4:36 pm | #
I don't talk to trolls, but I will apologize. You're a fucking asshole, but you're not a name-stealing fucking asshole.
Save the nicknames for when you've earned the right to use them.
you know patience? with the gecko?
Splain, please.
String is getting lazy and losing his wild edge. He just lies around all the time now and yawns.
Chicago Dyke,
What are the Aunnauki? What do you know of them?
fourlegsgood - cutest fucking kitten ever. Almost - I have to admit that the litter of 3 black and whites that someone linked to a week ago were awfully cute, too.
There was one that had a black nose kind of like the Scarecrow's in the Wizard of Oz - that shape.
You know, that's the only explanation that occurs to me for their bitterness and rage, too.
Really? So what's your excuse?
OT: Why does the stock market hate the Bush inauguration? Down about 240 pts since Wednesday.
Also, on the privatize Social Security bs, God forbid that Bush suggest we look at empirical evidence for determining the odds of success.
The anti-privatization argument should include some form of this argument: "Are you willing to give up retirement insurance so that rich conservative elites can make more money?"
To which the privatization greedheads will counter with something like "Don't change dead horses in mid-pillage."
Ou son les chats? Je voudrois chats.
Ahem....
kitten
Okay, it's not an Atrios kitty, or even a kitty that's stil alive, but it's the best I can do at the moment.
Quiero fotografias de los gatos ahora.
owch. How about:
!Pongas los fotos ya mismo, perra!
OT:
Not sure if you guys have seen this, but just in case: the FEMA thinks natural disasters are fun!
What a silly idea that was!
That cat MUST be submitted to www.ratemykitten.com
Four Legs Good, you owe it to cat lovers of the world.
RMJ,
Sigh, you got me. Fundies have an invulnerable circle of illogic.
It's why I finally gave up talking to them and sought out my own kind....
So what's your excuse?
Oh, I don't know, the decline of western civilization?
Lack of cat blogging?
It's why I finally gave up talking to them and sought out my own kind....
You are truly wise That is why I came here from plastic.com, where I was known as "KOMPRESSOR."
ÔżÔ -
String is happy with you and content. It's good he's losing his wild edge. He trusts you.
"they hate everyone."
-pie
from catch-22, from memory, probably not exactly the quote:
yossarian: you don't have a chance. they hate jews.
clevinger: but i'm not jewish!
yossarian: it makes no difference. they hate everyone.
"... the maddening invulnerability of the stupid" - John Updike
What are the Aunnauki? What do you know of them?
surfdork
They're native Americans and they fortell the end of the world sometime soon.
Nieves, my espanol is pretty rough since I'm self taught.
Castillians can spot my "Mexican" accent from a mile away.
surfdork, okay.
I really miss him, even after 2 years.
Best. Cat. Ever.
fourlegsgood, that is the best kitten ever.
Did you know that Bush was selected by the Devil, not by God?
Satan's Sign?
No hijo de perra!
Castillians can spot my "Mexican" accent from a mile away.
No problem. just gotta help it out when I see it
(sniff, sob)
you guys, I miss my old kitty so much! Her name was Iris. Not that we don't love our new kitty (Zulu), but it's been over a year and I still miss her. She was a runt, and I saved her from this awful house of horrors (ad in the paper for free kittens--scary!) and she was sooooo sweet.
spork--Tom Carson, who was a Village Voice film crit at the time liked "Ishtar" and wrote a nasty letter about it to Andrew Sarris and David Edelstein, both of whom were dismissive (but not hostile). Carson's take was that "Ishtar" reminded him of Beckett--two no-talent hacks stranded in the desert facing serious discomfort and probable death for a dishonest cause they didnt understand, but who continued to sing cheerful songs. Carson though that with the credit "Story by Samuel Beckett," critics would have fallen over themselves to praise it.
That said, the production of "Ishtar" lent itself to major skepticism. In my favorite incident among many, they spent a fortune to shoot on location in Morocco, then, once there, decided the desert was too flat. So they spent more money hiring bulldozers to sculpt the sand into dunes--i.e. make it look like a Hollywood backlot desert. One of many.
Name stealer. I guess he just sits around and waits for me to comment. What a life! I had no idea I was so fatally attractive to this fuckwit.
I wish he'd get a real girlfriend. I"m married.
You can have the "Not Me" war - you win. I"m tired of it. I don't give a shit. I"m just going to let the people here figure it out for themselves.
That is sad. My whtie kitty BoBo died 4 years ago, still sad.
I have him on ratemykitten.
Did you know that Bush was selected by the Devil, not by God?
No surprise there. 
God but I hate his chimpy ass.
WTF?!?!?! Iraq to arrest Ahmad Chalabi after Eid
PS Tena, I was the one who posted those kitties.
The people who are so bitter against us apparently are deeply pissed that they tune into popular culture and they don't see themselves there. I think that's right.
Tena
Kinda reminds you of a group of people who flew planes into towers doesn't it?
OT:
The inaugural coverage moment that I'd like to see again was on ABC Nightly news, where George Will was talking about the extreme security measures for the limo parade.
He was obviously really unhappy about it and made several pointed critical remarks, and concluded that it was very "unattractive."
Whenever I see a conservative looking directly into the camera on TV, it looks like their eyes are slightly crossed.
Why is this?
Brit Hume, Tucker Carlson and the Novak clown are obvious examples.
4lg, TJ
I understand.
We lost a darling eight-year-old to cat cancer last year. She was the best cat ever. Very gentle and empathic, but still a fierce hunter of spiders and other foolish house-invading bugs.
She was dignified even as we put her to sleep. Let us know that it was time.
I miss her to this day.
But, but, but - Robin Wright is part of the commie media and these other 3 folks are just patriotic Americans (said with a Texas drawl).
John - Epiphany over here. It's all starting to make sense.
It was a kind of epiphany for me when I read that in GMT's diary. It just made so much sense. I think they're pissed off because they think they've been ignored and they also think they are the "real America."
Furthermore, I think they are told that over and over by Rush and others. Unfortunately for them, the culture is not going to do a 180 and suddenly be focused on a bunch of middle Americans in sansabelt slacks and pull on pants with sparkly sweatshirts.
Anyone, I hope to the goddess it doesn't.
But, but, but - Robin Wright is part of the commie media and these other 3 folks are just patriotic Americans (said with a Texas drawl).
But, but, but - Robin Wright is part of the commie media and these other 3 folks are just patriotic Americans (said with a Texas drawl).
OT: Why does the stock market hate the Bush inauguration? Down about 240 pts since Wednesday.
Two reasons:
1. all the cash was expended protecting the hedgies profits at teh end of the year.
2. SS reform is now considered DOA, removing a prop from the market.
3. More pitchers than catchers.
Anyone should have been Anyway.
Whenever I see a conservative looking directly into the camera on TV, it looks like their eyes are slightly crossed.
Why is this?
Maybe they all have one stuck crossways.
Fundies have an invulnerable circle of illogic.
More like a shield of stupidity.
John, cancer got Zach too. Broke my heart it did.
sniff, sniff.
and suddenly be focused on a bunch of middle Americans in sansabelt slacks and pull on pants with sparkly sweatshirts.
Ouchy.
But funny and mostly accurate.
WTF?!?!?! Iraq to arrest Ahmad Chalabi after Eid
Apparently he and Allawi aren't kissin' cousins.
And howzkum the stock market doesn't seem to be getting the message that the ownership society is on the march and things are better than they ever wuz before?
Wahhh.
Draco sez:
That said, the production of "Ishtar" lent itself to major skepticism.
I recall. I've always thought that was the main reason it got such a bad reception from the critics (not that it was a brilliant film amd certainly not worthy of Beckett).
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Siempre quiero ayudar con mi espanol.
Muchas gracias.
OK time for a funny story.
My espanol was REALLY rough my first visit to Mexico.
I still spoke , after all how else can you learn.
So I decided to impress the hotel staff by asking for a towel for the pool.
I said, yo quiero una toya por alverga.
I did not pronounce alberca properly, what the heard was verga.
The staff started laughing and smiling. The laughing increased as I became insistent repeating, "yo quiero una toya por alVERGA."
Why the laughs?
Because in my whacked Spanish I was asking for a towel for my dick, and I continued to ask for that.
Verga=Dick.
You can have the "Not Me" war - you win. I"m tired of it. I don't give a shit. I"m just going to let the people here figure it out for themselves.
I said that last night. Right before I quit commenting to go watch Pirates of the Caribbean on HBO.
Chicago Dyke,
What are the Aunnauki? What do you know of them?
surfdork | Email | Homepage | 01.21.05 - 4:38 pm | #
let me recommend to you "the treasures of darkness" by thorkild jacobsen. although the theory is dated, this is a great book for facts about the mesopotamian pantheon. the annunaki are a set of dieties understood to be just below the main gods in the hierarchy of the pantheon. i actually disagree with a lot of the rest of the dominant ideas about what to make of them, but essentially, their main function is in ritual and narrative, where they are used when individuals want to call upon a "complete" roster of gods.
surfdork, i used to congratulate myself whenever native spanish speakers asked me where i was from. i figured i must be speaking the language pretty well. after a while i realized that they had just never heard spanish spoken that way before. but at least i don't have a gringo accent.
Kenosha, the article on your link is gone.
I think they should have given his corrupt ass to the Jordanians a fucking year ago.
Questions for Mr. Negroponte:
"Sir, when death squads are dropping nuns from helicopters, do you favor looking the other way or simply covering your eyes?"
"Sir, as a student at Yale and the Exeter Academy, what courses prepared you most for pretending not to notice when nuns were being dropped from helicopters?"
I hope to the goddess I never wake up and realize I'm a living, breathing parody.
John - I lost one of the best cats I've ever had not quite two years ago. I loved that cat so much - Bob. He was a stray, half-Siamese and half-tabby. It was sure hard. He accepted it in the end, too. I think he was ready - his kidneys were failing and his teeth were rotten.
I will miss Bob for the rest of my life. He was definitely my cat.
Actually my Aunnauki query is directs to Chicago Dyke. I'm referring to the Aunnaki of Sumer/Babaylon.
Chicago Dyke knows her shit in this subject.
Here we go again.
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I took high school Spanish well over thirty years ago and retain only enough to completely fuck me up in the Italian class I started two weeks ago.
The language part of the brain, she get very brittle in the declining years, no?
What are the Aunnauki? What do you know of them?
surfdork
Or were they be the ones predicting the coming of the gargoyles in that old 70s movie?
Anyone should have been Anyway.
Name stealer.
Unfortunately for them, the culture is not going to do a 180 and suddenly be focused on a bunch of middle Americans in sansabelt slacks and pull on pants with sparkly sweatshirts.
Maybe, but I think there are already zones of the country where "their culture" dominates. The scene on Planet Seattle is different from, say, Planet Little Rock or Planet Deep South. There won't be one dominant culture, but a mosaic of cultures. The "red Americans" who feel left out only feel that way based on the victimology programmed into their heads that "their" culture is being endangered by "them" when in fact they don't understand how all the different strains of art can intermingle freely.
Maybe there should be a sort of Exchange program. Seattle or San Francisco send their Teatro Zinzanni and "red" states send us Blue Collar Comedy Tour. That way, we understand each other.
Thought it might be from lobotomy type thing.
A pack of wild dogs that terrorize uptown New Orleans attacked Iris as she sat on our front porch. It was incredibly traumatic, for me and the kids. She was only 3 years old. It's truly amazing how much they impact our lives. We were blessed to have her.
steve simels: It's a reaction to that Lovecraftian
line in Bush's speech yesterday -- that
we have a calling from beyond the stars
nonsense.
Christ -- I thought you were serious, and that GFY was making a veiled reference to Armstrong Williams, somehow.
Anyone want another Curly vid? I can shoot one, post-haste.
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perhaps you were thinking of the anasati, incog? and i believe it's the mayan prophesy that says it's all over in 2012.
SteveLG - The language part of the brain, she get very brittle in the declining years, no?
Unfortunately, si, she does.
I wish I'd taken Spanish in high school and college. I took French and I was good. You don't get many chances to speak French down here, but Spanish is everywhere. It was very shortsighted of me not to have taken it.
Thank you Chicago Dyke. Yes Marrs misrepresents them, makes a big farkign leap from diety/legend to reality.
I always love to have my BS detector upgraded.
Question for Scott Mclellan:
When didn't you not stop not lying for the president?
(Watch head implode)
TJ - A pack of wild dogs that terrorize uptown New Orleans attacked Iris as she sat on our front porch. It was incredibly traumatic, for me and the kids. She was only 3 years old. It's truly amazing how much they impact our lives. We were blessed to have her.
That's so sad. I had a friend who moved to Santa Fe from Dallas. She took her cat, of course, and a coyote got it. She's never gotten over it.
I'm so sorry for you and the kids and Iris.
surfdork, the anunaki were space aliens who came here to get gold to spray into the atmosphere of their home planet. while they were here they created humans. that's zechariah sitchen's story at least. and i guess he's sticking to it.
Cat deaths.
Absolute favorite cat of all time, died of a stroke. Actually, had a stroke, and we put him to sleep.
We let his "brother" out (they'd been indoor cats since we got 'em, as we had apartments mostly), and he roamed the grounds of the house. Until a month or so before we left town to go to seminary.
I ran over his head in the driveway. Never have quite forgiven myself for that.
Lost 3 cats since marriage, all told. Have all of 'em, as ashes, in little wooden boxes. Figure I'll join 'em someday. and will it all to my daughter.
I still don't know what to think.
This fucking freak hears shit calling to him from "beyond the stars"?
What the fuck ?!!
Robert - O No! That's just tragic. My mom ran over our beloved cat in the driveway when I was kid. Minnie was all broken up, but she lived. She really did have 9 lives, that one.
i think maars just ripped off sitchens, surfdork. it's bs, of course, but at least sitchens was original.
I live in a blue state in a red (way red) city.
I'd like it if it were a rainbow, but for some reason, there are millions of Americans who refuse to accept that all of the colors together make for a much more interesting and beautiful passion play in this thing called life.
I still don't know what to think.
This fucking freak hears shit calling to him from "beyond the stars"?
What the fuck ?!!
Either his earpiece is picking up satellite radio or that's some awesome B.C. bud he scammed off Jenna.
End of Days?
Honestly, the world has gone from strange to passing strange in a great hurry. Little vignettes of thoughts intertwine in my mind to create a pastiche of uncertainty. CBS Radio news reports that Billy Graham thought the Lord interceded in the election. (Hey, Billy, that was not the Lord. Perhaps you should talk to Oral Roberts about the presence of evil in the world.) Dick Cheney promising the Cheney anyone who messes with the USA. Jingoism pushed beyond extremism into barbarism. And on and on.
I have never felt more uncertain of my country. Those of you who blithely answer, two years and we will take back the House and Senate are sadly mistaken. With the media so tightly controlled and the gateways to American thought dominated by fruitcakes and losers: how exactly are you going to get the message out? You say it will become obvious: it already has, but only to those with the will to perceive. Those who oppose us apparently can believe damned near any piece of bile expelled with great force by the Talking heads and monkey butts on the television and radio.
So, we have decisions predicated on misinformation and presented my means of misdirection as viable truths when they are nothing more than banality multiplied exponentially by the dreadful deadfall of the airwaves. Unless you can explain what is happening to the people, your chances of success are nil. If you cannot find the means to communicate this information: you are less than nil.
I am with WGG. It is high time to stop wishing and hoping that things will get better. It is time to take to the trenches to expose the evil incarnate these men who would be kings truly represent.
Blak - it's the Martians crying for freedom and democracy
OT-
Bob Jones III said Thursday he will retire as president of the Christian university that bears his name, ending a 34-year reign during which the school grabbed headlines because of its racial policies and fundamentalist views.
[...]
While critics focus on the dating ban, the prestige of the university's academic programs outside Christian studies has increased under Jones' leadership, said Republican state Sen. Mike Fair. Fair said Jones increased the visibility of other degree options and the standards for those programs.
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Blak,
Creepy, ain't it? Who wrote that speech? Almost sounds like Peggy Noonan on acid.
Well, the namestealer's here and I have to leave. Any posts made after (right now) are him and not me. Have a good weekend, all.
Let me guess, RMJ at 4:58 and tena at 5:00 are the name stealer.
What the fuck was that thing on his back anyway?
DWD - I am with WGG. It is high time to stop wishing and hoping that things will get better. It is time to take to the trenches to expose the evil incarnate these men who would be kings truly represent.
What do you suggest? We write, we call - some of us protest. How has that moved things along? I don't know what it is that you want, DWD. I know what WGG wants. But I don't know what you think we could do that we aren't already.
rmj @4:58 sounded real to me.
Olaf, I'm familiar with what you stated, that comes from Jim Maars "Rule by Secrecy" or I should say I got that info from that source.
Part of being very open minded is having a well honed bullshit detector.
Chicago Dyke has given me information that I can use to draw my own conclusions after I preform my own research.
This is what I love most about Atriots, I learn something new from y'all DAILY.
int argc - Have a nice weekend, yourself.
I'll be out of town next week, so if you see my name around, it's the name stealer.
I'll watch for you if you'll watch for me.
Vicki, have you ever read any HP Lovecraft?
"RMJ" didn't list his homepage, that's what made me think it was the name stealer.
The media is complicit in the reinforcement of our collective disease, malignant egophrenia
surfdork,
would it be okay if I e-mailed you this weekend? I can't do it now because my work computer won't allow it.
We were touching on recovery programs yesterday, and I'd like to get your take in more detail on something you said (which I happen to agree with, btw) about the 12 Step Programs.
...but I could definitely be wrong, 'cause it's not on any of his posts on this thread. Sorry, Mr. Jeffers, if it was you.
Dang Olaf thx for the clarification.
There is allot of truth is some of the fringe press unfortunatley you have to sift though mountain of BS to get it.
Divid Icke's site is a great information resource, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A GOOD BULLSHIT DETECTOR.
I will not steer people to that site unless I know beyond a reasonable doubt that they posess a grade A+ bullshit detector.
Otherwise it does more harm than good.
Blak,
No. But it sounds like I should! Interesting name.
Will do, Tena! We're in this thing together. Have a great vacation or whatever it is you're doing next week.
Peace out.
Vicki,
Absolutley, any info I'm more than glad to share.
Some light relief on a serious discussion, courtesy b3ta.com
No Holden we're here!!! we're queer!!! get used to it!!!
Man talk about a whinefest. you guys are the kings...or should I say the queens,,, no better make it the gender neutral of whining.
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Don't want to offend!!!
Isn't Ickes the lunatic conspiracy theorist who says we're all governed by lizard overlords?
R.I.P. smarty.
did you kill los angeles angels of anaheim, too?
seems you're on a killin' spree
TJ
yup. laaoa is very much dead. a balding man is going to get it very soon too.
int argc: Peace Out. What a schmuck!!!
Gonna go see your ho's now!!!
Holy cow, DWD.
Let me guess...NPD is schizoid multiple asshat rob.
Jeezus, doesn't it sleep? Kilroy returns from the dead again and again and again.
Another offering of relief, LOTR-style.
And when, finally, all the networks only feature republican guests, how then will the conservatives scream liberal bias?
Facts have, so far, not been an impediment to the Republican impulse to whine a lot about how they are being suppressed, even though they own the mass media and control (by hook or by crook) the three branches of our government.
It matters not that what they say is completely and obviously false. They just keep saying it, knowing that their hardcore base of brain-rotted morons will believe it.
When your vote doesn't count and you can't be heard, there's only one solution left and that's not practical so it's over.
He's a horror fiction writer from the 1930s-40s, very influential on Sci-Fi as well.
If you really want to know why I'm freaking out about this, either google "Cthulhu Mythos" or, if you want your lunacy double-strength right away, just google "Yog Sothoth Pentagon"
Have fun...
I'd like to dissent on the truism that language acquisition skills "close" after childhood. I know about Chomsky's wired grammar and it's essential to learn at least one language before you're 5.
But the Modern Language Association has conducted several studies showing that adults familiar with parts of speech can learn new languages, especially written ones, faster than kids. What adults lack is the imitative skill, so they never get the accents and inflections or certain phonemes just right. Languages like Navajo, where every last iterative nuance is crucial, are nearly impossible for all but the best adult mimics.
But you can learn to read and write a language faster than a kid, and can speak most of them with some help from an accent coach (and biofeedback screens). I find many lazy Murkins (not anyone here) using this too-old truism to avoid foreign language study, while hiring foreign nannies to speak to their kids.
IMHO, Ishtar might -- repeat might --
have been funny if it had starred
two comedians and been shot on the
cheap on a studio backlot. It could
have been a sort post-modern
version of "Harum Scarum."
Or not.
gosh, I didn't see this one coming!
BOSTON (AP) -- The tipster who told federal officials about a potential terrorist plot involving Chinese and Iraqi immigrants may have fabricated the story out of revenge, a federal law enforcement official said Friday.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the tipster may have been angry because a group of illegal immigrants had failed to pay for smuggling them into the country...
OT- i hope this miscreant blabs like a drunken bush cabinate member...
Iraq to Arrest Ahmad Chalabi After
Reuters - 46 minutes ago
We will arrest him and hand him over to Interpol. We will arrest him based on facts that he wanted to malign the reputation of the defense ministry and defense minister," Hazim al-Shaalan told Al Jazeera
Blak,
That would explain it. Horror fiction and sci fi aren't my cup of tea, but I will google...it's creeping me out.
Tena: If the left had any balls they would start a revolution with REAL killing and not mindless chanting that no one pays attention to.
Quick, someone, name a revolution with no violence and killing. And one where the govt. in charge went down fighting. No Velvet Revolutions allowed!!!
OT
I was just over posting at MMFA and it wouldn't lat me post. They have some kind of profanity detector that suggests in red letters that you must express your views without swears.
So I changed "Bill O'Reilly is dumber than shit" to "Bill O'Reilly is dumber than fecal matter."
It works just as well, don't you think?
Hey, what's this about me going to jail? I don't know a thing about it...Tell my boy Wolfy to give me a call. I can explain everything....
Trust me.
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Let me guess, RMJ at 4:58 and tena at 5:00 are the name stealer.
No, actually (and I'll be out in a moment), I haven't had the "honor" of being "stolen."
All this talk of lost cats made me maudlin. That, and I keep getting interrupted, so my syntax sucks....
The tipster who told federal officials about a potential terrorist plot involving Chinese and Iraqi immigrants may have fabricated the story out of revenge, a federal law enforcement official said Friday.
Great. Soon, we'll have terror warning based on reports of a pissy 15-year-old high schooler mad at her friend who called her "fat" behind her back.
"RMJ" didn't list his homepage, that's what made me think it was the name stealer.
He often neglects to do that, for some reason. Possibly because he doesn't want insane people showing up at his place babbling about how he's a terrorist drug dealer...?
Isn't Ickes the lunatic conspiracy theorist who says we're all governed by lizard overlords?
TheaLogie | Email | Homepage | 01.21.05 - 5:10 pm | #
Yes and no. SOME of his stuff is utter crap IMHO however you can find nuggets of truth.
His site is VERY anti Bush Junta, you will get lots of good info there, IF YOU HAVE A GOOD BULLSHIT DETECTOR.
Now, my question. Where did the loaded term, "lunatic conspiracy theorist" come from?
IMHO it's just as looney to assume all historical events are accidental.
The truth is somewhere in th emiddle.
Draco,
Thanks for the info. That's one of my new year's resolutions, to learn a foreign language, so thanks for the encouragement!
It works just as well, don't you think?
Yes.
Is it me, or have the news gotten even worse lately. I mean there's always been a conservative bias, but it just seems so god damn blatent lately.
Yesterday, I saw Matt Lauer asking someone (I forget who) about what he thought about the Dems holding up confirmation for Rice. Matty was basically leading the interviewee to Dem bashing, which he did not take. But what really struck me was in the lead in Matty actually started with said, "and hopefully soon Rice will be confirmed".
Hmmm... no opinion there.
Bill O'Reilly is dumber than a pile of steaming, watery pooh.
Yeah, that works!
Okay, I'm outta here. Long day.
Have a good night.
Vicki: Sorry Nancy Pelosi's Douchebag is not rob. I am my own schizo. Thanks for playing.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
My naive question--does Atrios have any interest in policing this site to get rid of name stealers? Even Drudge Retort (sic) has that much. And get rid of Haloscam in the bargain? Bloody hell, what a cheapskate--someone's gonna have to buy it for him.
Tena: If the left had any balls they would start a revolution with REAL killing and not mindless chanting that no one pays attention to.
Quick, someone, name a revolution with no violence and killing. And one where the govt. in charge went down fighting. No Velvet Revolutions allowed!!!
Yeah, that's going to work. The "left" can really overthrow the most heavily armed government on earth. Psshh!
No this is funny as hell
Quick, someone, name a revolution with no violence and killing. And one where the govt. in charge went down fighting. No Velvet Revolutions allowed!!!
Only the mentally ill could come up with such nonsense.
Ask an open question then restrict the acceptable answer.
Man Tena I can't wait till you send me this punks address.
And now, back to my paranoid hysteria...
WHAT THE FUCK!!
Tena,
That is the rub, isn't it? WGG and I remember what it was like in the early sixties. Remember, this has happened before. When MLK travled the countryside trying to get people to become aware of the evils of racism his message would have been lost except for the civil disobedience.
Nightly pictures on the TV of the hate that these people represent was enough of an elixer to get the engine of change started. With Lester Maddox and his ax handle barring African Americans from his diner, and police gleefully waterhosing or setting their dogs loose on the crowds of peaceful protesters filling the TV screens: people began to change.
Make no mistake: these are the same people who reveled in Jim Crow and the other means of keeping people down. The only antidote to such a thing is civil disobedience.
I am not saying it is easy, for it is not, but we need something beyond a bunch of people being herded into protest zones. We need a general uplifting of the people.
The "left" can really overthrow the most heavily armed government on earth.
The Vietnamese did!
Tena, Lysistrata, baby! (I didn't leave yet.) But must, soon. I'm tired.
Might as well go have cocktails with my friends. This has been a cocktail oriented week.
OT: Moonies think Mossad will follow drug cartes' strategy, carry out assassinations in the US
Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations
By Richard Sale
UPI Intelligence Correspondent
Published 1/15/2003 7:14 PM
Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice until now, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen former and currently serving U.S. foreign policy and intelligence officials in interviews with United Press International.
But an official at the Israeli Embassy in Washington told UPI: "That is rubbish. It is completely untrue. Israel and the United States have such a close and co-operative intelligence relationship, especially in the field of counter-terrorism, that the assertion is ludicrous."
With the appointment of Meir Dagan, the new director of Israel's Mossad secret intelligence service, Sharon is preparing "a huge budget" increase for the spy agency as part of "a tougher stance in fighting global jihad (or holy war)," one Israeli official said.
First impulse is to just ignore this. Then I remember the USS Liberty and think, why would our government stop them?
.
This is pretty good!
Attention all Democratic Congressional Chiefs of Staff
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...1/21/141743/
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surfdork - I couldn't find those emails that we were talking about. However, I've seen cosmic grappler around here off and on this morning. I have his email address - I'll go email him and see if he still has the info. I think he's the one who had it. There was someone else, too. Maybe cosmic will remember.
Back in a bit.
He often neglects to do that, for some reason. Possibly because he doesn't want insane people showing up at his place babbling about how he's a terrorist drug dealer...?
That is a poser, isn't it? Sorry, not trying to be mysterious, but I work at about three different places, with access to as many (or more) different computers. I put in my name, but not always my blog address.
Now I have to go make some terrorist drug deals to maintain my un-godly power over all your minds.....
Tena: The Brits were more heavily armed than the Americans were during the War for Independence.
I asked for a revolution with violence, you can't use a revolution with no violence. Don't complain about the question just answer it.
"cartels'," obviously...
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i love people like sitchens and david ickes. someday i hope to write a bestselling nonfiction book myself. when i do i will rip all of them off.
Oh the fuckign Liberty, bring that one up critically and you'll get the anti-semite label.
Another link to the Chalabi story
Bonus:
special request catblogging
a balding man is going to get it very soon too
May I recommend "Xurtherian the Cantakerous"?
Only the mentally ill could come up with such nonsense.
Ask an open question then restrict the acceptable answer.
Quick! Tell me why we invaded Iraq! And no looking into the INC or the OSP!
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(with "Cantankerous" spelled correctly, of course)
Bye folks with one personality. Have a nice night.
We will arrest him and hand him over to Interpol. We will arrest him based on facts that he wanted to malign the reputation of the defense ministry and defense minister," Hazim al-Shaalan told Al Jazeera
What have we done? This is their idea of democracy, arresting people for wanting to malign the reputation of the defense minister? Could you at least accuse him of wanting to falsely malign the reputation of the defense minister? The guy has got enough dirt on him to get busted for something real. If you cannot make a case against your political enemies, you don't get to arrest them on trumped up charges.
Shit, meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Uh, Surfdork, the Americans had left Viet Nam by the end of 1973 or did you miss that. The N. Vietnamese overthrew the S. Vietnamese while the left applauded the slaughter. How commpasionate of you. Why do you think the Vietnamese in America lean Republican. They know who their enemies are!!!
watertiger, you misspelled "Xertherian" as well.
Oh the fuckign Liberty, bring that one up critically and you'll get the anti-semite label.
Does that mean the fucking crew can't talk about what happened?
'Cause they already did.
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uss liberty will probably figure somehow in my bestselling nonfiction book.
May I recommend "Xurtherian the Cantakerous"?
watertiger
absolutely!
btw, is that name a creation of your imagination or an actual character?
you misspelled "Xertherian" as well.
D'oh!!!
The media is complicit in the reinforcement of our collective disease, malignant egophrenia
Aaron in NM
Aaron, bro!@ Excellent catch... explains everything... that'd be the terrifying thing about Jung, and why he's sorta marginalized and trivialized these days: it's how right he was...not about everything; but lots...
George I asked for an internal revoulution not an invasion by a foreign power. Pay attention to the question. And it may interest some, or not, to know that I don't support Bush or the war and did NOT vote for him.
btw, is that name a creation of your imagination or an actual character?
Mine own twisted little mind. That and too much sugar.
1973?
So I guess the Vietnam Airlift never happened.
Smarter trolls, please.
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while the left applauded the slaughter.
site/cite please, shitstick...
yup. laaoa is very much dead. a balding man is going to get it very soon too.
a balding man | Email | Homepage
Just let us know so we can
pay our respects.
TKK,
what a sweet cat! A dainty little paw, lifted to keep it dry.
Either that or to scratch yer eyes out.
Sorry George the Vienam Airlift was trying to get people out. The Americans were not fighting. The Dems wouldn't let them. You can't fight without weapons. I know the left is trying to do that. Good Luck!!
Psshh!!!!!!!
"the n. vietnamese overthrew the s. vietnamese while the left applauded the slaughter."
-some douchebag
what are you, like 25 years old? there was no slaughter applauding on the part of the left.
How the hell did lizards get into this?
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"Junior" lifts her dainty little paw when she wants some food.
I've said this about a few other of
our trolls, but I suspect a neatly
slivered section of namestealers
medulla oblongata would fetch top
dollar at the research departments
of several medical schools.
Please elect me chairmen of the DNC! I promise to continue to lose elections for us Democrats for the next 20 years at least! All that matters is that the 20 of you who read this site really like me! YEARGH!!!!!!!
Woody Guthries Guitar: Refused to help the S. Vietnamese. Denied the slaughter was happening. Blamed it on the CIA Couldn't figure out why all those Vietnamese were taking to the seas in home made rafts. Guess the were trying to save money on a cruise.
Mmmmm…medulla oblongata!
Yoshimi--excellent link. Did you notice that on the Mercatus Center webpage, over on the left, it trumpets the fact that TIM ROEMER joined Mercatus in May 2003?
Yet another reason we don't want him leading our team.
Great. Soon, we'll have terror warning based on reports of a pissy 15-year-old high schooler mad at her friend who called her "fat" behind her back.
John
At least its not Iraq or Afghaniatan:
"Mr. U.S. Serviceman, Ahmed is a very bad man. A very bad man. He likes Saddam and watches al qaeda tapes all day. He lives in that house right there."
The Americans were not fighting. The Dems wouldn't let them.
The Americans were not fighting because Nixon had withdrawn the troops.
the right had no problem with the plain of jars or anything like that though. if there was any applauding of slaughter back then it was on the right.
Quick, someone, name a revolution with no violence and killing. And one where the govt. in charge went down fighting. No Velvet Revolutions allowed!!!
The Sexual Revolution. Oh, you want serious answers. The Glorious Revolution.
I remember the sixties, too. I remember that quite a few small revolutions took place. There was a bloodless revolution for women in the sixties, and it changed a lot of things.
I'm not going to get into a conversation about violent revolution. There is no point in talking about it. It's not feasible and it's not smart.
Think outside the box for a change.
And quit advocating violence.
medulla oblongata
now I KNOW that's already a band name.
Right?
No Olaf I'm 45. I remember it. There is talk of a name stealer here. I am not it, nor do I know what 'name stealing' is, though I will be called a liar as that is how people deal with others opinions that they don't like. I post under my own name
"Uh, Surfdork, the Americans had left Viet Nam by the end of 1973 or did you miss that. The N. Vietnamese overthrew the S. Vietnamese while the left applauded the slaughter."
Oh. History is more elastic than I thought. Are they doing a series about the seventies on the back of Bazooka comics?
The Left? You mean LBJ and JFK and that gang? Did they not start the war?
And was it not Nixon who ran on the "peace with honor" thingee?
so, NP's doosh bag, it was the right who "abandoned" the South Viets, right up until the last little pointy head fell off that last chopper strut out of Saigon. But wait, it's you with the pointy head. But wait again! That's not a pointy head, it's just another conical hat stapled up by your social studies teacher. Back to the corner weenie.
Woody Guthries Guitar: Refused to help the S. Vietnamese. Denied the slaughter was happening. Blamed it on the CIA Couldn't figure out why all those Vietnamese were taking to the seas in home made rafts. Guess the were trying to save money on a cruise.
Nancy Pelosi's Douchebag
This should be good! T minus 2 minutes and counting.
Think outside the box for a change.
Are you real? Because you sure seem like a fantastic parody of a vacuous, pompous twit without an ounce of self-awareness.
Good work!
Snow: Yeah no one got herpes, syphillis, or AIDS. Right, no one has ever died of AIDS. No, no death with the Sexual Revolution.
Tena: How will you convince people that the left is correct?
"I remember the sixties, too. I remember that quite a few small revolutions took place. There was a bloodless revolution for women in the sixties, and it changed a lot of things.
I'm not going to get into a conversation about violent revolution. There is no point in talking about it. It's not feasible and it's not smart.
Think outside the box for a change.
And quit advocating violence."
Why NOT adovcate violence! We sure as hell can't win elections! Let's keep pretending we're "peaceful" while we advocate for violent revolutions! Makes sense to me! Yeargh!!!!!!!
so, NP's doosh bag, it was the right who "abandoned" the South Viets, right up until the last little pointy head fell off that last chopper strut out of Saigon.
No, Nixon was a liberal. It's always their fault!
Why do you Hate America?
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Those dang history books these days.
Who writes (or rewrites) them anyway?
Or maybe someone didn't really learn his history in the first place.
Sorry Lumpen the Dems in the House, you know the guys that control the pursestrings, cut off funding that was promised to the S. Vietnamese or did you coincidentally forget that.
Tena,
I am not advocating violence, but there is such a thing as being forcefully peaceful. Refuse to stay in the protest zones. People will have to be arrested. People will probably have their heads split open. People will be killed. But what is the choice?
Violence always has a way of turning on its practitioners. I am not advocating violence, but I am not willing to acquiesece in my designated protest zone either. Leave the safety of the complacent and confront the powers: ultimately they are cowards because our right to speak our minds is more American than their right to quash dissent.
I thought the 'Free Speech Zone' was the whole U.S.A.
You should pity the troll. After all, it's his/her "soul" that will undergo eternal digestion in the belly of "Yog-Sothoth".
George W Bush is the "human" representative of extra-dimensional beings that want to huff our souls like so much airplane glue. That's my story, my "meme" if you weel. Prove me wrong, I dare you!
From today's Free Iraq, another example of why you should be reading it daily.
[oh, and also for the sooper-stoopid trolly goodness! Yum!]
{sacrifices to haloscan godz}
You neither hear the sounds nor see the blood:
US Losses - Photos Hidden By US News Media
Crisis Pictures
Caring for the Wounded in Iraq- A Photo Essay
Marking the first year of occupation of Iraq
The Face of War and click on the images on the left column to view the whole gallery.
This is War
Videos documenting "brave" US soldiers killing wounded Iraqis:
Take No Prisoners - U.S. Marines execute an Iraqi to the cheers of fellow marines . Another proud moment in U.S. Military History.
"He's wounded, Hit Him"
Take them out, dude: pilots toast hit on Iraqi 'civilians'
I sent an email of support to Face the Nation. I think we should flood them with positive comments.
School must be out for the small bus crew.
"Quick, someone, name a revolution with no violence and killing. And one where the govt. in charge went down fighting."
This is the dumbest request I've seen today. A violence free revolution where the government went down fighting.
Please clarify. What kind of fighting was the government using? How could you have non-violence when you assume there is fighting.
next moron!
Tena: How will you convince people that the left is correct?
Nancy Pelosi's Douchebag
I have a suggestion. Get rid of the state controlled conservative media.
It's difficult to get the message out when the media distort the truth and repeat the administration's talking points.
Whoa! Haloscan accepted by sacrifice!
Hail Haloscan!
Blood and Souls for my Lord Haloscan!
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pie - Or maybe someone didn't really learn his history in the first place.
There seems to be an epidemic of this. It gets kind of sad when you realize how few people did learn anything from history, and how few give a shit.
Hey douchebag, read the rest of it. And for the record, douchebag, you said violence and killing. Not disease and death.
DWD, you fail to understand that Tena values her personal comfort over liberty. She comes here to whine and spew, but when push comes to shove, she's just another docile do-nothing sheep. Don't expect anything from her except an endless display of arrogance, stupidity, self-esteem issues, and kneejerk/panicky antics.
There's a rumor she'll be in syndication soon, starting on Comedy Central. It'll be called "Dingbat Diaries".
Hey, an unclosed tag. Sorry about that.
Tena: How will you convince people that the left is correct?
Nancy Pelosi's Douchebag
By reminding them that the right's policies are fucking pwned by the real world?
Dunno. Thought it was obvious.
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Shaw Kenawe - You have the right idea, I think. The real cause of the problem lies in the rightwing media. Hate speech has owned AM radio for over 20 years now. It has slowly reached out from there to all the media. It is going to be a tough fight to take back the media, but that is the only way to win this.
BTW:
That advance draft I got of Cheney's
speech also makes to reference to
a Nyarlthotep, a book called "De
Vermis Mysterious," somebody
named the Mad Arab Abdul Alhazred
and something or other
called The Necromicon.
Does anybody know what he's going on
about?
It is going to be a tough fight to take back the media, but that is the only way to win this.
Whoa - that's some mind-blowing "out of the box" thinking there!
Do you know how hard it is for Cheney to maintain that form?
I hate cats! That is I hated cats, until I got one. Jags is my buddy, and his little step brother Theo is Jags' buddy.
I am tired of thinking about GWB. Bring on the cats!
GMT: 'the rights policies are fucking pwned' do you mean owned? please clarify!!!
Fuckwad,
This is the ONLY response you will get from me.
I don't debate people juvenile enough to call themselves Nancy Pelosi's Douchbag
It's like trying to reason with people who used the word nigger regurlarly.
Second, I don't debate people who are afraid to leave a real e-mail address or homepage.
Anything you say is bullshit and THIS response to you is a VERY generous use of my time.
Grow up and we can talk.
If you really are 45 years old you must live a most pitiful life if this is how you get your jollies.
What kind of woman would be so debased as to be with a turd like you, mail order?
Jeezus if you have ever had sex (which I doubt outside of animals) I'll bet some GHB or royhyphnal was involved.
I'll bet you are a date raper extrodianaire.
And a pederast as well, just like your leader.
DWD - am not advocating violence, but there is such a thing as being forcefully peaceful.
I wasn't talking to you specifically when I said that, DWD. And I agree that there is a way to be forcefully peaceful.
I don't know why you and WGG and others aren't organizing, since y'all are convinced that this is the way. I think it's a way. I don't think it's the way, by a long shot. But I do think it can be useful in trying to get a point across.
Speaking of Chalabi,
His good buddy Michael Ledeen made an appearance in that "Power of Nightmares" special. I posted an excerpt of the transcript at Homepage for your "enjoyment". I knew he was batshit loony when I used to post once in a while as Ghorbanifar, but that dude must live under a tin-foil roof or something.
A Friend,
Tena has more brains, passion and righteousness in her pinky finger than you have in your entire Bush-besotted body.
I'm not defending her. She doesn't need defending, and she's quite capable of doing a good job of it herself.
I'm just stating a fa
You got somethin' against brainy women?
And tell us all how intimately you know Tena?
And then tell us all the pro-active work you've done in the past 4 years to stop the slaughter in Iraq.
If you can't take back the media you neutralize it's value. Level the playing field, inject so much noise that NO SIDE can communicate clearly.
Then we're back to a level playing field.
Grand Moff Texan, are there supposed to be links to 3 videos of US soldiers at the end of your post?
1) Take No Prisoners
2) He's Wounded
3) Take 'em out dude
???
if so, the Take No Prisoners link doesn't work. These are very helpful links. Thanks for posting them. Seriously.
Repeat after me:
The Vietnam war was immoral and
unwinnable.
From the start.
And it wasn't the left that prolonged
it beyond all reason.
"I'm just stating a fa"= I'm just stating a fact.
typing too goddamn fast and furiously.
surfdork - If you can't take back the media you neutralize it's value. Level the playing field, inject so much noise that NO SIDE can communicate clearly.
Then we're back to a level playing field.
I think this is smart. I think this is a good goal - and I think it can work. Apparently, there was an article in yesterday's WSJ about ARR - Mr. Tena said it was a pretty good article and it said that the audience is growing again, after the post-election slump. It's a start - better than nothing.
You know what I love? When they say
"by the way, I don't like Bush and
didn't vote for him."
though I will be called a liar
Yes, you will.
Because that's the correct response to someone who lies.
So either get used to being called a liar, or stop lying.
Refused to help the S. Vietnamese. Denied the slaughter was happening. Blamed it on the CIA Couldn't figure out why all those Vietnamese were taking to the seas in home made rafts. Guess the were trying to save money on a cruise.
The last US soldier departed Saigon in march, '73. Stayed behind, some 10k defense department personnel. Also stayed behind: a whole lot of aircraft in Thailand, and a whole bunch of aircraft on carriers off the coast. The last american fatal casualty in vietnam occurred some time in late April, '75.
Nixon, and then Ford (with the notable assistance of one Don vonRumsfeldt) had been in charge for 7 years by that time. more SOUTH Vietnamese were killed in the war AFTER Nixon took over than had been killed before. It is one of the supreme, tragic ironies that immigrant Vietnamese see their loyalty as being to the GOP.
The flight of refugees from Vietnam, and the infliction of outrages upon those collaborators unlucky enough to be caught, are (in the brutal real-politik which inspired bush's invasion of Iraq) pretty much natural consequences in the aftermath of decades'-long civil strife. Remember, like VonRumsfeldt remarked in the ruins of the looting of iraq: Democracy is not orderly, and people can make mistakes with freedom...
Or did you miss that one, shitwipe?
I inform you of these facts in order to set a context in which to insist, again, that you provide sources and cites to substantiate your intemperate assertions. Alternatively, esad...
Is Powell leaving the FCC because of the Paige/Williams scandal?
Is the scandal about to get bigger?
I say ignore the troll. It asks really stupid questions and I don't get its handle.
OK so if I behave exactly like YOU want me to and ignore all your insults, then we can talk?
I bet if I left my e-mail address I would be flodded with all sorts of hate mail, viruses, etc.
Sorry but I will leave you people to your self inflicted misery, trying to convince people they are stupid and need to listen to your wisdom.
So I will no longer troll around your site.
I hope you folks find what you are looking for. You might be surprised that there are plenty of conservatives that don't like Bush. They want to be left alone, and, also, by any type of leftist govt. that may come along. The Left will just as cheerfully tell people how to live as the Right will.
I see no advantage to supporting Left fascism as I would in supporting Right Authoritarianism.
Good Luck Folks!!!!
And it wasn't the left that prolonged
it beyond all reason.
"Secret Plan to End the War" = Operation Linebacker.
"Peace with Honor" = Keep dying so I can save face.
Don't get fooled again.
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OK so if I behave exactly like YOU want me to and ignore all your insults, then we can talk?
Signs point to 'no.'
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if so, the Take No Prisoners link doesn't work. These are very helpful links. Thanks for posting them. Seriously.
Follow the first link, to Free Iraq.
Chances are I botched the links when I brought the sample here.
It's potentially a great blog, of the Riverbend variety: inside voice.
Lots of trolls telling him that if he can talk about the slaughter then there obviously isn't a slaughter because that only happens around Saddam and then you can't talk about it.
Or something.
Real trash.
Anyhoo: good site. Go lookee.
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From this week's LA Times Calendar Magazine, by Steve Carney:
Air America Radio, the liberal talk network that was dismissed, derided and unceremoniously yanked off the air in LA two weeks after its April debut, is returning to the airwaves here--this time under the aegis of the nation's largest radio chain.
Clear Channel Communications is announcing today that its KXTA-AM (1150) will switch to "progressive talk" on Feb. 3...'We have the Rush Limbaughs and the Sean Hannitys now, who have moved pretty far to the right. So there's all this constituency to the left of that,' said Gave Hobbs, vp of news, talk and sports programming for CC, which owns eight stations locally and more than 1200 nationwide..."
It's the money. Always the money. There's a demand for this and CC goes with the $$$$s.
GMT: 'the rights policies are fucking pwned' do you mean owned? please clarify!!!
Uh, it might be clearer to you if you didn't clip the quote, dumbass.
Try again.
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steve s.--I find it easy to believe that even obnoxious trolls don't like Bush and didn't bote for him. I mean they're capable of getting on the 'nets, navigating HaloScan and dealing with hostility, which is more than W can do. Maybe that's just me thinking positively that even trolls are better than W. Or negatively, from a world-historical perspective.
In any case, I'm dying for someone to ask me to translate the Hawaiian refrain from Warren Zevon's "Hula Hula Boys." Doozer left the thread last night when it was relevant to his comment, but you'll do if you care. Don't tell me you know already 
I see no advantage to supporting Left fascism as I would in supporting Right Authoritarianism.
Speaking only for myself, i have seen no evidence in anything you have deposited in this thread or others that have borne the insult of your presesnce which conduces me to regard you with anything but contempt. I don't give a rats fart in a furnace what you feel the advantage of supporting. It would not make me feel more certain of the correctness of it, and i would feel no more confidence in my position to know you or any like you endorsed it...
Shaw - t's the money. Always the money. There's a demand for this and CC goes with the $$$$s
thanks by the way, you're a real sweetheart and it's really something to have you compliment me because I think you are one of the smartest people I've ever talked to.
Way way back when I first started blogging, I used to make this point. Once the media begins to get the idea that money can be made off of being liberal, being liberal will suddenly be a good thing instead of a bad thing. You're right - that's all it's about.
This sounds a lot like what Mr. Tena was telling me was in the WSJ yesterday. I don't have a subscription so I can't read it online. He reads it at work, so I'm just going by what he said.
Thanks, GMT. Good site. I think it is important that my sons see photos of what is really going on. It is very easy for boys to get "caught up" in the GI Joe mentality that pervades our pop culture, and I need all the help I can get to make them understand that war is not a movie.
So, I really appreciate the links.
Draco:
I don't know already.
Let the translation begin!
NBCnews is publicly congratulating itself for not being as stupid as Dan Rather.
Shall we review their pathetic performances as journalists --the
reporting and lying on behalf of ARnold SChwartzenegger. They had to forced to fire Shriver and then moved her although she should have been asked to leave and if she weren't such a monumental ego maniac
she would have understood and left on her own.
Sorry but I will leave you people to your self inflicted misery.
No, actually it's Bush inflicted misery.
I see no advantage to supporting Left fascism as I would in supporting Right Authoritarianism
Jebus.
Yeah, millions of Americans suffered when Clinton was president, and we always complained about being told what to do.
Yep.
Wacko.
New (old) thread popped up. Blogger sucks for me today.
"DWD, you fail to understand that Tena values her personal comfort over liberty. She comes here to whine and spew, but when push comes to shove, she's just another docile do-nothing sheep. Don't expect anything from her except an endless display of arrogance, stupidity, self-esteem issues, and kneejerk/panicky antics."
Shit, I'm never had any beef with Tena, but I can tell you this, she's not a spewer, nor a sheep, and is never arrogant, never stupid, and shows little signs of knee jerk antics.
She, frankly, seems like a regular old nice person.
And Dearest Vicki, you finally fragged me! Suggesting that I was NP's Dooshbag? That was some cold shit.
As for NPD's last stand, (see tail dragging retreat) at least he got one thing right...
"You might be surprised that there are plenty of conservatives that don't like Bush"
which kinda explains why i am here. And there. And everywhere. (see Sybil)
GMT- why, you, you, you cad!
You've been cheating on us, spending all your time over at KOS and such.
Oh, did douchebag leave? I declare victory as douchebag's retirement is an admission of defeat.
I declare victory as douchebag's retirement is an admission of defeat
It'll be back. It's like a bad penny.
What a nut though. Yowsa!
Poor thing.
steve--Zevon lived in Hawaii where his son in middle school learned the native language. The chorus means literally "Go on and sing the chorus," but it's rarely used that way. It's used idiomatically to say "Stop stalling--get to the point." I like how the literal meaning is self-performative in the song and the idiomatic meaning applies to the cuckolded newlywed. I also like Zevon's sporadic falsetto whine to indicate emotional duress.
Yes, it may return. But it will return as a discredited coward who could not admit it was wrong. And everyone throughout the blogosphere, or just me, will know it is a discredited coward.
Draco:
That's hilarious, thanks.
Damn, I miss Zevon. What a brilliant
brave guy.
steve--I miss Zevon too--I couldn't believe him recording "Knockin' on Heaven's Door," much less doing a "straight" "restrained" version devoid of any irony except the big obvious one. That,in context, certainly tops any of Bryan Ferry's forays into ironic/unironic covers.
Which brings up the question, have you changed your opinion re "Bryan Ferry can't sing." I mean I know he can't but he can't in just the right way repeatedly, establishing a pattern of first rate off-kilter interpretations, if you care. I still love the "These Foolish Things" album, which you didn't, and I always heard as funny. "It's My Party" is the most obvious joke (Ferry in interviews said he didn't change the genders because he didn't want to compromise the innocence of the song by wondering who might think he was gay), but the real laughfest for me was always "Piece of My Heart," all the more so for loving the Janis J version.
Hey, CBS! How's that groveling and appeasement working out for ya?
Draco:
Yes I have changed my mind about
Ferry. I'm still not wildly enthusiastic
about the cover stuff, but once
Roxy got into their moonlight and
roses phase I came around. Actually,
keep waiting for some smart alt-
country singer to do a cover of
"Dance Away."
Seriously.
True story: my first ex-wife went
out on a date with Ferry during the
first Roxy tour. She was maybe 17,
but Detroit had a very tight knit
rock community back then, which is
how she got fixed up with him.
Anyway, he pulled up at her parents
house in a sports car, and they
just sort of drove around. She said
all he did the whole time
was cry about how he
couldn't get it up.
Explains some of the songs, don't
you think?
OT, but important.
Read it and weep.
This is about a very good friend of mine and a tremendously talented individual, who's been chewed up and spit out.
I'm trying to see what I can do for him.
but right now, read.
Wow I missed all of douchebag's fun. What a wacko.
Never being a troll myself, I wonder what kind of mind it takes to go on a site and insult and provoke and then run away all hurt, whinning how a "poor little eopen minded moderete" is pick on by the mean old liberals when you stand up to them.
I watched Timmy with Rahm Emannuel last week and noticed that he blindsided Rahm with a blind quote that happended to be from Clinton. He said "do you agree with this quote" w/o letting him know where it came from. Does Timmy do that often, or only to dems?
This is actually the dems fault. The DNC Chair should be there asking Timmy why do you have right-wing commentators and supposed middle of theroad people, while you never have left wing commentators? Until the dems take on the media, then it will always be this way.
Ha--I also remember a story from a Vanity Fair profile of Jerry Hall from the early 80s. She was understandably touchy on the subject of leaving Ferry for Jagger and volunteered how he was really the one who left. Why? She took him to meet the folks in TX and during supper a big roach crawled up the wall and Dad got up and smashed it. Bryan was never the same.... Do you remember that one? Jerry was on the cover, if that helps.
I also met a NY sound engineer briefly who had worked with many famous people. He said that in the studio Ferry was the nicest gentlemen he ever met, and genuinely geek-knowledgeable about sound engineer concerns. He also said Van Morrison was a grunting eye-rolling near psycho who could barely communicate anything, and even then only through assistants and with acute foul temper. Van would still make a superior Sec of State to the current nominee.
By reminding them that the right's policies are fucking pwned by the real world?
Dunno. Thought it was obvious.
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Grand Moff Texan
This is an incorrect use of "pwned." The term (as I understand it) means "to dominate by some ridiculous factor" (mcnabb fuckin' pwnes limbaugh's fat ass!).
what you're suggesting is that the world abhors us policy. disgust and apprhension do not equal pwning.
John Wallis author of God's Politics just raised the level of conversation on Hardball a million percent --too bad Tweetfatass won't retain any of it.
Draco:
I know somebody who works with Ferry
and has for more than ten years.
She says he's dumb as dirt.
Who knows?
The problem with the left is that our whole model of changing opinions—that contrary facts will alter people’s views—is inherently flawed. Mundane, oafish Americans, in a national competition to see how many $3.99 “support our troops” ribbon magnets they can fit onto the backs of their Suburbans, simply aren’t interested in reality. These people won’t be convinced of any upsetting facts that they can avoid thinking about, or can stave off with the crude set of official denials and made-up stories the White House provides for them and the press dutifully parrots. Let’s face it; there is a sizable chunk of the population who deny the validity of evolution—evolution. Who are we kidding, thinking we can make them see the errors in Social Security privatization?
People don’t think much; they’re far more interested in feeling. God and country feel good; corruption and war crimes don’t. So when we see pictures of our soldiers engaged in less-than-admirable conduct, “values voters” cry out—against the reporters who brought it to our attention, who had the audacity to burst our imperial bubble. How dare these liberal media elites violate our right to not know?
This obsessive ignorance is a hallmark of the religious. It is a necessary reaction to encroaching reality. If you want to go on believing things that are simply and demonstrably untrue, you need to develop a selective blindness.
WMD. Jessica Lynch. Mission Accomplished. Pat Tillman. Liberation. All lies. Not mistakes, lies. Americans choose the lie every day. And why shouldn’t they? The truth is a stark void of insecurity, relativity, and struggle—who the hell wants that?
Liars--I have to pay an extra $33 monthly to get MSNAZI, so I miss Olbermann and Tweety both. What was Wallis saying? I'm not even sure who he is, though I could google it.
Wallis is the founder of Sojourners. He was on TDSWJS the other day.
steve--"Dumb as dirt" doesn't rule out geeky sound engineer concerns or gentlemanly manners. I still find "DAD" hard to believe re Ferry if only for his appreciation of fin-de-siecle Viennese decadence and Weimar decedence applied to the 70s rock culture he made a point of standing apart from (He was always the debonair chicster weay of the scene and unlucky in love). If nothing else he was way canny in his choice of inimitable persona.
I don't know either--maybe he just looked at pictures from those eras.
Typo correction "weary of the scene"
The media are only as liberal as their conservative owners allow them to be.
OT: Moonies think Mossad will follow drug cartes' strategy, carry out assassinations in the US
Israel to kill in U.S., allied nations
By Richard Sale
UPI Intelligence Correspondent
Published 1/15/2003 7:14 PM
Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.
An arab freep got offed in Jersey this week?
An arab freep got offed in Jersey this week?
That's what's been going around. But the police went out of there way to say it was probably robbery. No Christian artifacts were desecreted. All of his money was gone. And there were no messages left indicating that it was politically motivated.
Of course his wife and kids got killed with him so you sound pretty cold about it. What a lot of people not in North Jersey aren't realizing is that there was another execution style killing in Newark the month before and it definitely wasn't political. That was probably a gang initiation.
OT: The 'Coalition of the Willing' appears to have become the 'Coalition of the Unwilling'.
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