I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
liuddy!
Why am I not shocked that SourKraut had a hand in Bush's psychotic inaugural blithering.
You certainly would acknowledge it, if you had one single, solitary atom of self-respect and decency in your being.
Next question???
We are under no obligation to disclose SHIT! It's a free country and we can do what we want, we won, fair and square. Stop whining libs, you do it too, paying people off for opinions.... GEORGE SOROS!
Oh, yeah... Bush lies - suckers buy!
SCUM.
What Central Scrutinizer said. Doubled.
Fucking SCUM.
You liberals cannot acknowledge the brilliance of Charles Krauthammer and how his gravitas and insight makes libby wackos run for cover. REAL Americans watch FOX and not the liberal lies everywhere else.
thanks, people talkin about weed below an i can't have any. sheeesh.
Krauthammer can barely write a sentence, he's a perfect match for a President that can barely utter one.
You hate freedom and liberty, don't you? I know your type. YOu have a magnetic ribbon on your car that says "Support Halliburton", which is totally disrespectful! And you are surprised when someone keys your car? OUT OF STEP with the mainstream, you are. OUT OF TOUCH with the heart of the USA. And hating freedom and liberty. That's our Liberals!
Stupid liberals, you are all finished and washed up! It's FREEDOM ONLY from now on, no more commie wealth redistribution, those who earn it keep it and get to call the shots, too! The uneducated rabble will no longer be able to subvert the true will of the people and of the USA!
I want to watch a Fox news anchor's head explode again. That was fun.
"The General Motors Corporation, the world's largest company, now sells more graphic sex films every year than Larry Flynt, owner of the Hustler empire. The 8.7 million Americans who subscribe to DirecTV, a General Motors subsidiary, buy nearly $200 million a year in pay-per-view sex films from satellite providers."
Go Figger, hunh? Props to Buzzflash
Craphammer, why doesn't he just move to Israel and get it over with.
I want to watch a Fox news anchor's head explode again. That was fun.
I never watch Fox News, but if they had a show called "Scanners"...
The General Motors Corporation, the world's largest company, now sells more graphic sex films every year than Larry Flynt, owner of the Hustler empire.
GE - we bring good things to life.
Uh-huh.
The freedom and liberty to cover up direct connections with the WH.
Only for the GOP.
Even Israel doesn't want him.
light. not life.
sorry. haven't had breakfast yet...and it's 2:40 EST.
and it's SNOWING!!!!
I am big and bad and conservative as FUCK, I am! You Atriosers are all LOOOOOOOOOOSers!
But, you see, the REAL STORY is that kos and armstrong took money from the Dean campaign (even though they disclosed this or laid aside their personal blogs) and that liberal bloggers are therefore corrupt.
Fuck.
Corporate media hypocrasy makes me want to ralph.
Evil (as in demonic) sons of bitches that are our enemies.
Got it?
THEY ARE OUR ENEMIES!!!!
If I could, I'd line them all up against a wall with an M-16 and rid this land of their lying existences.
One can dream.
WGG - Go Figger, hunh? Props to Buzzflash
I think someone needs to sic Dobson on GM.
General Electric peddles porn, too.
They all do this, this is the Roman empire where we talk about our precious morals as we throw our little orgies. Note how the GOP has champange bubble baths and the twins run amock, drunk.
my my your kraut hammer is quite breathtaking. may i sculpt it for future generations to gaze in wonder at.
may i gently tug at your kraut hammer while you recite your toxic noodling?
in the future please refer to all instances of male gentalia as "kraut hammers."
such as: my kraut hammer is filled with the righteous power of the lord. please fetch me virgins so that i might lighten their burden.
Kraphammer!
Toad.
When I was growin up, we used to fuck pigs. Sure, I took part in it, but it was either that or fuck my crosseyed uncle.
That's what we called sex ed back then, none of this homo condom stuff.
Gawd Bless America, you libs.
GE - we bring good things to life.
Uh-huh.
No, it was GM. I think it's their GMACK division.
you cant blmae Krauty. he is only following the example set by his mentors.
George Willful, who is esteemed by the pnatheon of rightists, didnt disclose his role in Reagan preparation. Why should Krauty want to show up Georgie?
Wow. I'm fucking up big time. Sorry. GM.
Okay, I'm going to go have lunch. I think that's the problem.
That and ... it's SNOWING!!!
and one more thing:
good 'un, Eli.
Kraphammer (and Will) are the mentors. Ever see the king of crap on the roundtables? He opens his mouth, and they all shut up like the messiah is speaking. Even the pompous one himself, Hume, gets this swoomy look.
WGG, I guess I'm one of those 8.7.
I don't know how to through the winter without SIRIUS Jazz Cafe Smooth jazz. Didn't know it was from my local Chevy dealer.
when i worked in retail i could sell anything as long as i believed in it's inherent qualities. this is why the president can't sell himself as a leader cos he has no more idea of what he's saying which explains the constant gaffes as well as the insincerity that 49% of us perceive.
Man, I hate Charles Krauthammer. He's a really ugly motherfucker too.
Ummm, bluesman, sorry about the low stash...wish you could come over.
Speaking of which, I hereby cite the joys of shoveling/snow blowing for the uninitiated or those who've fogotten.
Bundled up, headphones on with Quadrophenia blasting, an hours worth of driveway and sidewalk clearing has left me with an odd mix of satisfaction and single stroke engine gasoline stank.
About halfway through the process, the sun even tried to come out...and then…it began to snow as hard as it has all day. Shit. No worries though. I'm the Earnest T. Bass of driveway clearing...I just keep coming back.
My wife's mom died from a badass cancer two weeks ago.
Snow or not, it's fuckin' great to be alive, y'all. Time for a Dewars and some college hoops
Who cares who wrote a silly speech?
Re-thugs are inclined to screech.
The Kraut is our man
Until he no longer can.
Then he's one more Re-thuglican leech.
Krauthammer (n.) translation: Cabbage mallet...
just sayin...
Craphammer, why doesn't he just move to Israel and get it over with.
chris/tx | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 2:39 pm | #
Because his quack therapy act only works on Americans and he wouldn't be able to peddle it to the Israeli press.
Seriously, there might be some right-wing paper like the Jerusalem Post that would buy it but the marketing opportunities are tiny compared to the US.
I guess he could market the "Howard Dean is a psycho because he doesn't support the war in Iraq" from Tel Aviv but then he wouldn't be in the Middle of Washington and he would lose credibility.
I want to watch a Fox news anchor's head explode again. That was fun.
I never watch Fox News, but if they had a show called "Scanners"...
Like this?
(Caution, exploding head)
and it's SNOWING!!!!
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 2:42 pm | #
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for real?
Ethics are for little people.
YES! he made it! on to purple frogs!
"You certainly would acknowledge it, if you had one single, solitary atom of self-respect and decency in your being."
I would think that one would normally be quite proud of that sort of thing, would want it to be known - in short would want to boast a bit. If one thought what one was doing was worth crap of course. Otherwise, it's a paycheck and a payoff and not much in a day's business.
did you see the kraut hammer on that frog? if only my kraut hammer could achieve such a lustrous purple hue, rigid with anticipation of impending deeds.
Sorry about your mother-in-law, Bob. Sounds like you're coping pretty well. Hope your wife is too.
Man, I am jealous of the snow.
CB,
sorry to hear about your m-i-l.
live for the moment, right?
QuiltLady,
Check it out! It's SNOWING!!!
Lmao Cereal
''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''
...and study the new realities of Ethics...
SWR - Do you ever get the feeling watching or reading K-Hammer that his first interest is Israel, and not America? It's like he's peddling Sharon's policies when he talks about American foreign policy. Can't think of anybody else but Pearle that has that affect on me. Those two men have done more to shape our ME foreign policy than anybody I can think of, and to me they are treasonous.
ClevelandBob...
sorry 'bout MrsC.Bob's mom...
we endure til we don't anymore...
So the "cakewalkers" amble once more.
"Lessons Learned" they completely ignore.
They want more than one bite,
These Krauts of the Right,
But just who'll mop the blood from the floor?
Bush hasn't said one truthful word since taking office. Fox never reports one truthful word. Wow! It all makes sense now!
Craphammer, why doesn't he just move to Israel and get it over with.
Chris, I think its easier for him to influence US Foreign Policy from here than in Israel. Besides, the real Israelis I've known are loads more liberal than the American-based Israeli firsters.
Thanks, all...live for the moment indeed.
What was it that Warren Zevon said at the end?
"Enjoy every sandwich".
Somehow that also sounds like it could be either a George Carlin or Groucho remark.
Maybe even Bert Convey...loved his neckties.
Bush Announces Candidacy for Governor of New Texas
White House Tenant Bush, riding high on public approval in the Nov 2 election, has already announced plans to run for Governor of New Texas as soon as his current term ends, barring a Congressional appeal of the 22nd amendment.
"The American people have spoken, and they've said We Want Bush as long as they can have me. I don't intend to disappoint the American people."
When asked if he intended to campaign actively before the 2008 election, Bush replied, "I know a thing or two about campaigning. I've been campaigning in New Texas since March of 2003, you know, putting up fliers, meeting the people, serving some meals on holidays, lending my expertise to some urban rebuilding initiatives. I just want the people of New Texas to know that even though I'm the president of the United States right now, I'm a man of vision. And I'm always thinking about the good people of New Texas and how I can bring my style, my... leadership, my... I think the French call it jenny sea gull, to the state."
Bush has been actively working the fundraising circuit, as well. Republican supporters fortunate enough to get tickets were able to join the White House Tenant at a $6,000 a plate dinner featuring dolphin tartare, darter escargot, and Iranian wheat pasta with a wonderful ragu (constituents unknown). Entertainment was provided by musician John Tesh and comedian Yakov Smirnoff, and the evening's gala was emceed by Dennis Miller, who called Bush, "probably the greatest living man who will ever govern our 51st state".
As to the question of Karl Rove directing the gubernatorial campaign, Bush gave a sly wink and said, "I know a lot of people and Karl Rove is one of them. But if you ask Karl, he'll only tell you that we know each other and that I'm.. if you ask him about knowing me... he'll tell you that of all the people I know... or that he knows, I mean... let me finish.. Karl will tell you that the American people know me... and if I know Karl, that's good enough for the American people."
Sorry about your wife's mother, Bob. Snowing like crazy in NJ. Don't think I'll be leaving the house for a few days. Glad I replenished the liquor cabinet yesterday.
Blizzard?
Feh.
I just walked a couple of blocks to the
deli on Amsterdam, and the worst
you could say is that things were a
little slippery.
This is annoying, not a blizzard.
Krauthammer??!!??
I thought it was a voice from beyond the stars. Honestly.
(ps: more convincing fake trolls, please)
Snow plow guy buries us in deeper. Don't you need a license to do anything these days?
Don't think I'll be leaving the house for a few days. Glad I replenished the liquor cabinet yesterday.
You know, sometimes I wonder if people here drink as often as they write about drinking. Feels like I'm listening to Nick and Nora half the time. And I mean that in a good way!
MMMMMMM, Myrna Loy....
Yup, old Dr./Rabbi Chuck is a strangelovian and goldbergian piece of work and his bitterness finds its best expression in poorly written poison.
Mainstream companies who own or have an interest in porn distribution:
AT&T
GM
NewsCorp (LodgeNet Entertainment)
Time/Warner
Liberty Media
EchoStar
Marriott International
Hilton Hotels
On Command Corp
New Frontier Media
Advance/Newhouse
Cox Communications
Comcast
One of Enron's many failed ventures was the porn distributor Enron Broadband.
A $10 billion annual business with $4.2 billion in American porn video sales.
Snow plow guy nearly plows into my car. Quickly becoming snow plow douche.
SWR - Do you ever get the feeling watching or reading K-Hammer that his first interest is Israel, and not America? It's like he's peddling Sharon's policies when he talks about American foreign policy.
I'd be a bit less conspiratorial about it. Most Americans and most Israelis feel the same way about the Middle East so Krauthammer's just giving the people what they want.
But I was just answering your specific question. Israel's a much smaller market than the US for his propaganda. It's also a pretty closed, cliquish society. There's no way an outsider like Krauthammer could walk in and have the same access he has in DC.
Why would he want to leave the US? He's writing speeches for the President?
I never watch Fox News, but if they had a show called "Scanners"...
Eli
"Scanners," featuring Anchors...
"Skankers!"
Steve,
the lines in the supermarket are ridiculous. This is NYC, people. Relax. It's not like there isn't a deli every 15 feet. You'll be able to get milk.
But I like the snow. Mainly because I don't have to shovel. (contemplating Nelson Muntz laugh)
Marcus Wellby - Correct, and poor choice of words on my part. What I meant re K and Israel was in my 2:58 comment.
Hilton Hotels
Well, duh!
My condolences, CB.
we endure til we don't anymore...
So true.
Well, looks like I don't have to work tomorrow. The snow is keeping everyone home, no business, so fewer employees are needed.
And it continues to snow.
Feels like I'm listening to Nick and Nora half the time.
My idols!
Ummm, I drink as much as I write about drinking.
Wine is good.
All you East Coasters ~ enjoy the snow!
I just went outside to shovel, and found my sister and her boyfriend blowing my driveway! And it's a damned good thing, because the snow is at least a foot deep in Grand Rapids, maybe more. I'd still be chipping at the hard stuff left by the plow, let alone the rest of it!
I love it when people do nice things for other people!
Okay, off to the store.
steve: If you guys are going to get what we in 'sonsin just got... get ready for some fun. We just got back from spinnin' donuts around town in the Jeep. Complete white-out conditions a little bit ago. We shoveled 12" this morning (two hours) and we'll have to shovel a second time after this round ends.
This is the way winter is supposed to be. I love it...
my sister and her boyfriend blowing my driveway
not . . . going . . . to . . . succumb . . . to . . . bad . . . joke . . . .
Monica _A - Yes, yes, but you have snow. Be grateful. There are little deprived snow-less children in Texas who would give anything to see some real snow.
And some deprived and snowless adults, too, I might add.
Feels like I'm listening to Nick and Nora half the time.
My idols!
Back in the good ol' days when being a raging alcholic was swank and sophisticated
Might have ruined the mystique if we saw old Nick Charles barfing behind a dumpter at 4 AM. Not that I've ever done anything like that!
Steve Simels,
The east coast is about to get hosed (big time.) I'm glad that Mr. Monica is home with me. We can snuggle while we watch "Throne of Blood."
in the new reality, corporations and individual actors are not responsible for their actions but merely responsible for the maintenance of a godly and just public image to be consumed by believers like finger snacks at a funeral. don't tell me that g.e. doesn't "bring good things to life," i heard the t.v. tell me 10,000 times so far in my life and your measly attempts at re-education cannot penetrate that program.
There's a reason I call myself *With Apologies* to Lime Rickey. He is the undisputed master and I hereby retire.
I keep screwing up snow blower and blow dryer...Didn't mean to make a sexual reference there (I do that enough here). Sorry.
All you East Coasters ~ enjoy the snow!
Most frequently heard phrase, throughout the mid-atlantic, for the next week:
"Here, have some more milk before it goes bad..."
D.C., during a snowstorm, goes so crazy it could be mistaken for a red state.
Hilton Hotels
Well, duh!
Not sure if any of the others on the list have quite the same degree of vertical consolidation in this particular media form...
waiting for the wind to settle down then we'll push this fluffy stuff around- no sense in having it drift right back in...winter isn't a bad thing so long as you don't get too much of it at once.
Cleveland Bob, sympathies to wife & you
Might have ruined the mystique if we saw old Nick Charles barfing behind a dumpter at 4 AM.
Dumpsters are to barfing as trailer homes are to tornadoes.
It's snowing here, too. I love my Uggs but they have zero traction. I guess if I slip and crack my skull, my toes will stay warm while I wait for the ambulance.
This explains a lot. That speech by BushCo™ really did sound like it was written by committee. Complete giberish with inane platitudes thrown inbetween to rally the idiots.
Monica _A - Yes, yes, but you have snow. Be grateful. There are little deprived snow-less children in Texas who would give anything to see some real snow.
How about this. We'll truck some real snow to those snow-less children in Texas if you take your previous governor back.
You certainly would acknowledge it, if you had one single, solitary atom of self-respect and decency in your being.
Next question???
I think the next one is: In that case, would would you be doing working on Bush's inaugural address?
But I like the snow. Mainly because I don't have to shovel. (contemplating Nelson Muntz laugh)
Watertiger
Good one, WT!
And Monica_A, I too, just got buried by the street Plow King. I guess revenge truly is a dish served cold.
Lastly, Ripley…you completely freaked me out. Brilliant.
snow! It's starting to get near white-out conditions here. I love that part of a blizzard. The chili's on the stove, the beer's chillin' in the fridge, and I'm thinking about finding my snowboots and mittens and going out for a bout of shovelling. wheeeeeeee!
Kraphammer sux, btw.
I keep screwing up snow blower and blow dryer
Snow-blower? blow dryer? I blow hot and cold on either...
The snow flakes are rather beautiful. They're fluffly and falling really fast. If you don't think about the fatal accidents that this blizzard may cause, it's actually peaceful.
Don't you hate it when your kraut hammer is covered in santorum.
Krauty shops at the same bookstore I do. He's as mean and grumpy in person as on tv or in the written word. Brings out my inner Auntie Mame: Life's a Banquet and some poor suckers are starving to death.
I need a male duet partner for this:
I really can't stay.
Monica_A:
Enjoy!!!
Throne of Blood on video or cable?
Cause right now, there's not a frickin'
thing worth watching on Time Warner
Monica_A:
Enjoy!!!
Throne of Blood on video or cable?
Cause right now, there's not a frickin'
thing worth watching on Time Warner
Netflicks.
Monica_A - How about this. We'll truck some real snow to those snow-less children in Texas if you take your previous governor back.
Bad deal. In fact, terrible. No no no. I'll live without.
Cleveland Bob - my sympathies to you and your family. I'm very sorry about your MIL.
Mine is going to go home from the rehab center on the 29th. She's doing great.
Krauty shops at the same bookstore I do. He's as mean and grumpy in person as on tv or in the written word.
It would really be a shame if somebody taped a sign on his back that said "murderer" wouldn't it?
That would be a bit too high-school I guess.
Steve Gilliard has some yummy ideas about how to enjoy being house bound while the snow piles up. Shepherd's pie anyone?
I have Kill Bill 2 from Netflix as well as The Last Samurai which I have seen but my wife hasnt. Those are some good long blizzard movies, especially the latter.
Bad deal. In fact, terrible. No no no. I'll live without.
Think of the children.
Shepherd's pie anyone?
That better be some kind of sexual euphemism...
I'm wondering if Hilton Hotels have been offered Paris' sex video? Maybe they could get it through some "back door" maneuver...sorry.
Shepherd's pie anyone?
Is that the porn version of "American Pie"?
Monica_A - Think of the children.
oh I am, I am.
If I had some good boots, I would go out for a little walk in this snow, but my sneaks are all tattered up; it'll make my feet wet.
Well, my bro wants to use this computer... see yas later, people...
I'm wondering if Hilton Hotels have been offered Paris' sex video? Maybe they could get it through some "back door" maneuver...sorry.
I was wondering about that, too. But does the "store brand" carry as much prestige as the brand-name stuff?
SWR, living like a child occassionally helps keep one young. Go for it!
That better be some kind of sexual euphemism...
Requires a crooked staff.
Requires a crooked staff.
As long as there are no actual sheep involved...
Lol I posted it as a diary on kos - what I'd really like to see is the freeper response. I'm not sure they'd understand what the 51st state is but I'm sure they'd be pissed about it.
SWR, living like a child occassionally helps keep one young. Go for it!
Sentenza | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 3:25 pm | #
I don't live in DC and if I ever get to the point where I'm stalking Krauthammer, I'm having myself committed.
But I'm just saying that if someone lived in DC and occasionally saw Mr. Living Dick Tracy Villian in real life, it would really be immature if that person taped a sign to his back that said "Asshole".
It would be adolescent.
Hecate,
Tape a sign to his back like "I touch myself for hours." Or just kick him in the shin. Don't let the anger build up inside of you. Do what I do: take it out on the person causing it or anyone standing near them.
D.C., during a snowstorm, goes so crazy it could be mistaken for a red state.
Well, our public transportation system seems designed more for a place like Texas. From the Metro Web site:
Metro can move trains in the snow without any problems until the snowfall accumulation reaches eight inches or more at which time the depth of snow starts to interfere with the electronic components under the trains. In the past, during the blizzards of 1996 and 2003, major snowfalls in excess of eight inches of snow caused extensive railcar damage, which resulted in lengthy service restoration periods after the storms ended.
If the Washington metropolitan area faces a major winter storm where snowfall is expected to reach eight inches or above, Metro will operate underground rail service only at 30-minute intervals.
Something is wrong when a subway system that's the second busiest in the country, and that provides well over half a million trips per day, can be wiped out by eight inches of snow.
A couple of years ago, right before the Iraq invasion, Metro was handing out flyers explaining what they would do in the event of an attack. Apparently, they had everything planned, and things would go smoothly. When I got down to the train platform, still holding my reassuring flyer, there was a train in the station, but out of service. This one train disrupted the entire Red Line, and turned my 45-minute commute into something like two hours. I wasn't especially reassured, somehow.
(In their defense, I must say that Metro does do the best it can under the circumstances. The problem is that they're being asked to do "more with less," as a certain president once said, and it isn't working.)
kraut hammer.....
shepherd's pie....
hmmmm...
Ok. I take it no one knows the words to "Baby, It's Cold Outside"?
My thoughts go to you and your wife, CBob. You have to go through the grief to get to the other side, and it is hard.
Snow. Sorry but that's what we have every day. It's good stuff. Get your skis on or make some snowBushes and then bombard them to smithereens with snowballs. Then have hot chocolate, a nice fire and whatever else crops up.
It would really be a shame if somebody taped a sign on his back that said "murderer" wouldn't it?
It would add to the "murderer" attention-getting if they could affix baseball cards with clothes pins to his chair wheels for a noise-maker effect...too funny. Old Krauty could implode!
SWR,
That would, indeed, be a silly thing to do.
I really can't stay
But, baby its cold outside
I haven't been able to listen to that
song since Sigourney Weaver and
Buster Poindexter butchered it on
an old SNL.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 2:54 pm | #
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Coming from intrepid pioneer stock, we ventured out at 11:00 am (app.) and braved the frigid walk of one block to the everything store and bought a cheap coffee maker to hold us over til we can get to a real store.
Then we braved the massive crowds of desparate starving people and went to the supermarket. Enough beer, food and munchies to last two days.
Such virtue we possess. Not all blue staters are lazy hedonists waiting for the industrious red state types to care for us. I think we deserve some recognition. Maybe w will hold us out as an example of what hard working folks can accomplish when they work hard.
(Entire trip took about 40 minutes.)
I've got to go away
But, baby it's cold outside
Thanks, Gatchaman.
Ethics Schmethics.
Woodie, gm no longer owns direct tv..THEY SOLD IT TO MURDOCH111
It's not Kraut's fault, Fox News doesn't allow anything ethical to be broadcast on the air.
I need a male duet partner for this:
I really can't stay.
Monica_A
...but baby, it's cold outside...
Woodie, gm no longer owns direct tv..THEY SOLD IT TO MURDOCH!!!
I haven't been able to listen to that
song since Sigourney Weaver and
Buster Poindexter butchered it on
an old SNL.
Ray Charles and Betty Carter. By far the best version ever recorded in my humble non-professional opinion.
Damn. Always a day late and a dollar short...
'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''
Yes, and all of us who study what these fuckwads have done will also be the ones who write the history. Small comfort, but at least it is something.
Thanks, I was looking for this the other day.
Damn. Always a day late and a dollar short...
This evening has been so very nice
steve,
We recently got on our Time Warner NickToons, where we can see great old cartoons, like KaBlaam. I loved Prometheus and Bob. Rocko's Modern Life and CatDog are also back on.
BTW, "On the Media" was scathing this morning -- ripped Novak and did a story about the new WH Communications Director.
www.onthemedia.org
you can listen to the show from the website.
I love Bob Garfield. He does snark really well.
No problem, Monica, I always wanted to sing that with someone. But my singing voice scares animals and small children...
This evening has been...
...Been hoping that you'd drop in
...so very nice
One thing to remember and tell your freeper friends -
Hannity and O'Reilly wouldn't have jobs if it weren't for Bart Simpson.
Hey echidne, I'm going to try that potato soup recipe later this evening. mmmmm mmmm mmmm.
.
Going to make a martini (shaken, not stirred.) I'll be back in a few.
We recently got on our Time Warner NickToons, where we can see great old cartoons, like KaBlaam. I loved Prometheus and Bob. Rocko's Modern Life and CatDog are also back on.
I don't suppose they have any first-season Eek! The Cat or Ren & Stimpy?
Or... dare I even hope... The Tick?
Hmmmm...Shepherd's Pie...I think that one employs the use of a can of Cherry Filling, a Jesus dashboard statuette and some ice cubes. I forget.
Where's Dan Savage when you need him?
And yes, I do drink as much as I say I do. And I plan on continuing to do so until the age of 86. Then I'm leaving.
Once again, thanks everybody for the kind thoughts and condolences on my wife’s mum.
Ray Charles and Betty Carter. By far the best version ever recorded in my humble non-professional opinion.
Monica_A
Recorded?
Maybe, probably, yeah OK...
...but live?
Cristina and Wammo of the Asylum Street Spankers.
Trust me on this...
...hey, what's in this drink?
Oops, sorry. That's your line...
Good, semper fubar. Hope you enjoy the soup!
Cristina and Wammo of the Asylum Street Spankers.
I suppose a Billy Idol/Wendy O. Williams version would be too much to hope for?
I'll let you know, echidne. Sure sounds good!
Gotta go shovel.....
...hey, what's in this drink?
Taken out of context -- it kind of a creepy song. Slipping something into her drink, preventing her from leaving. Not to mention a grown woman's entire family waiting for her to return home, no doubt about to perform a virginity-inspection.
I guess it was a more innocent time...
Though, its still one of my all time favorates.
SWR,
That would, indeed, be a silly thing to do.
Hecate | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 3:29 pm | #
Yeah. What was I thinking. It's too easy to get taped signs down.
Dean for America bumper stickers work much better or if you're really in a childish mood a "Free Palestine" bumper sticker and a call to the local police that you saw him videotaping prominant local attractions would just be wrong and of course I never suggested it because nobody should do something like that ever.
Eli,
Haven't seen Eek, R&S, or Tick yet, though my kids have dragged out the first couple of seasons of R&S on videotape and obsess over them. But we've only had this channel a few weeks--still figuring out what's here.
Just googled Baby Its Cold Outside
and was surprised to see it was
written by Frank Loesser (of Guys
and Dolls fame).
I had always assumed it was Cole
Porter.
Ethics Schmethics.
Damn, I was going to say that.
Holy freedom fries !!
Rummy Cancels Germany trip for fear of arrest
The world is watching.....
Just googled Baby Its Cold Outside
It's also the title of the first third of the "Power of Nightmares" (which I just watched yesterday.
Worth seeing.
Here in Midwest it looked bad this morning but it is all over and the sun is out. I don't think it was as bad as they're making out. I think you'll survive East Coast.
Just had a nice bowl of chili, washed down with a big glass of milk!
I'm gonna write more about drinking and do less of it for a while. Bushco depression has had me hitting the wine too much and I hate feeling like crap the next day and being even more depressed.
Eli, I LOVE Eek! the Cat.
Kumbayah !!!
Israel's a much smaller market than the US for his propaganda.
And it has a proper political debate about Israel. If you reprinted most Ha'aretz editorials or op-eds in a US paper, without attribution, you'd get letters complaining of anti-semitism within minutes.
Krauthammer wouldn't be considered mainstream (or even Faux News-stream) in Israel. He'd be treated as a batshit wingnut.
He'd be treated as a batshit wingnut.
Which is what he is.
The guests on Neil Cavuto's show this morning were very scared of the prospect that Bush might start a war with Iran.
A little late to be scared of the psycho they helped elect as God.
If they are turning on Bush on Fox there may be hope for us after all.
"Ethics is for pussys" (or is it pussies?).
Larry Summers
This is what those of you in the north east have coming your way if you are lucky.
Here is the view out the back doors. Looks like about 12" so far.
... and here is the snowdog Dojo.
I love the immediacy of digicameras.
Ray Charles and Betty Carter. By far the best version ever recorded in my humble non-professional opinion.
Agree completely. Am I misremembering or did they have an old LP of duets that was colored RED?
Holy freedom fries !!
Rummy Cancels Germany trip for fear of arrest
The world is watching.....
Ripley | Email | Homepage
Oh, that is rich!
Krauthammer wouldn't be considered mainstream (or even Faux News-stream) in Israel. He'd be treated as a batshit wingnut.
There's probably room for some more right-wing propaganda in Israel targetted at some of the recent Russian immigrants.
But Krauthammer's quack therapist act is so quintessentially American that it almost merits its own Sinclair Lewis or Saul Bellow novel.
Actually Saul Bellow would be too gentle with him and Lewis would probably be uncomfortable with a non-WASP subject.
I'd love to see a young, angry Phillip Roth go after him.
I'm back from my martini making excursion.
"have some more milk, before it goes bad."
stevelg
i think steve has mentioned that he is a fellow resident of md. we really do go nuts here. we think we live in the south, so we don't expect snow in the winter. but we don't really live in the south, so we get snow pretty regularly and we are surprised every single time it happens.
the good part is that 6" of snow on the ground is considered a perfectly legitimate excuse to ditch work.
Ray Charles and Betty Carter. By far the best version ever recorded in my humble non-professional opinion.
Agree completely. Am I misremembering or did they have an old LP of duets that was colored RED?
Yes!
Sharkbabe - I was the absence of hangovers for the first time in years and years that helped me quit drinking for good. When I started waking up and feeling human, I realized how much it was worth it.
And I've never looked back.
Which is not to say that anyone else has to give up drinking - Mr. Tena drinks, and all our friends do. It doesn't bother me - and man I still love waking up everyday and feeling good, even though it's been 15 years since I had a hangover.
also, i brought this up last night:
if they were chasing those chinese terrorists around boston all week, how come the terror alert level was never raised?
Taken out of context -- it kind of a creepy song.
...actually Gatchaman, in context it's a creepy song. Particularly the Asylum Street Spankers' version.
They don't camp it up at all... it could be Gordon and Sheila for all you'd know just listening... but Wammo is such a lech.
A loveable lech, of course, like so many of us.
The best thing about having great aunts who had their own places during the 50's ,60's & 70's were the record collections. I listened to so many great albums when I was growing up.
The bill's already in Congress, Bluto. HR 282 The "Iran Freedom Support Act"
To hold the current regime in Iran accountable for its threatening behavior and to support a transition to democracy in Iran.
But am I the only one that senses the linguistic disconnect between Iran Freesom Supprt Act and Hold Iran Accountable for Its Threatening Behavior?
George W Bush - the Tough Love tour, 2005 - get your tickets nowwwwww....
I only get hangovers if I mix othr thing with the hard stuff. Having said that, what does one put in mulled wine?
Holy freedom fries !!
Rummy Cancels Germany trip for fear of arrest
You just made my day.
"Ethics is for pussys" (or is it pussies?).
Spelling is for pussies.
And good grammar, too, don't it?
if they were chasing those chinese terrorists around boston all week, how come the terror alert level was never raised?
Oh, Olaf. My naive Olaf (sarcasm.) We all know why the M & M terror alert warning system wasn't raised.
if they were chasing those chinese terrorists around boston all week, how come the terror alert level was never raised?
Because they would have just blown up effete wine-drinking Massachusetts liberals? Why, they'd be doing America a favor!
*Here is the view out the back doors. Looks like about 12" so far.*
Huh. Huh huh huh.
"The kind of man who wants the government to adopt and enforce
his ideas is always the kind of man whose ideas are idiotic." --HLMencken
Monica_A,
I would have thought the great thing about that generation was inheriting their martini shakers. They were serious about their home bars back then.
And it has a proper political debate about Israel. If you reprinted most Ha'aretz editorials or op-eds in a US paper, without attribution, you'd get letters complaining of anti-semitism within minutes.
Krauthammer wouldn't be considered mainstream (or even Faux News-stream) in Israel. He'd be treated as a batshit wingnut.
You get liberal Israelis (Amos Oz, David Grossman) who get published in the New Yorker or Harpers all the time.
But you don't need the right-wing Israeli voice in the US because you have enough Americans to fill the role.
I wonder sometimes if a lot of moderate/liberal/secular Israelis know how bad some of their American groupies make them look sometimes.
I'm hoping that the crowd at LGF would make some of them wince the same way Adam Yoshida makes me wince.
I'm a bad American - I can't even spell freeDom... hehehe
What's in Mulled wine?
Cinammon, I think.....
I'm talkin' about friendship. I'm talkin' about character. I'm talkin' about--hell, Leo, I ain't embarassed to use the word--I'm talkin' about ethics.
Johnny Casper, Miller's Crossing
Holy freedom fries !!
Rummy Cancels Germany trip for fear of arrest
You just made my day.
Karin | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 3:55 pm | #
Put him in Spandau.
the lines in the supermarket are ridiculous. This is NYC, people. Relax. It's not like there isn't a deli every 15 feet. You'll be able to get milk.
Several years ago I was in a supermarket just before a snowstorm. I happened to be standing beside the manager watching people wheel carts out. Some of them had five (5) gallons of milk along with their bread and toilet paper. I turned to him and said "they will never be able to drink all that before it goes sour." He replied "and then they will bring it back for a refund."
The only milk left in the store was a case of goats milk (I have no idea where they got it. Never saw it in that store before or after) and it was one-half gone.
Monica_A,
I would have thought the great thing about that generation was inheriting their martini shakers. They were serious about their home bars back then.
The majority of my great aunts are still alive and kicking (one died when I was five.) However, when they pass the barware is mine!
Put him in Spandau.
Ballet?
Shit guy - I took a before picture and was gonna post it with an after.
You just stold my thunder. Great pics.
NYMary, here's a mulled wine recipe from Epicurious.com:
Amounts are not as important as your own personal tastes, but as a general rule: one bottle of red wine (it doesn't have to be expensive wine as your altering it anyway - this is the one time I would recommend buying cheap red wine), 3-4 cinnamon sticks, 4-5 whole cloves, 4-5 whole allspice, peel of a large orange (white part removed), 1-2 whole star anise, 1/2 to 3/4 cup of sugar (to taste), 1/2 cup of dark rum. Combine all the ingredients except the rum. Slowly, over low heat, heat through (DO NOT BOIL OR SIMMER - it should just barley steam). Hold at this temperature for 5-10 minutes. Remove from heat and add rum.
Put him in Spandau.
Ballet?
Monica_A | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 4:01 pm | #
You miss the snarky reference in Spandau Ballet.
It's the prison where they kept Rudoph Hess.
Question: Do you know what "Joy Division" is a reference to?
Taken out of context -- it kind of a creepy song. Slipping something into her drink, preventing her from leaving.
Okay, come on now. It's a strong cocktail. The song may have a lot of ol'-time sexist undertones but it's a tad ridiculous to suppose they're talking about a date rape pill or something. Cut the old days a little slack, fer god's sake.
From the Beeb, some Austrian politician wants to revoke Ahnold's citizenship because of the Californian death penalty. Probably won't wash with the current conservative Austrian government.
There can be no terror when the White Knight is re-knighted... Frankly, I'm surprised they even made that public.
1- Terror on inauguration day? But.. but.. Bush defeated terrorism!
2-Why would terrorists go to Boston and not DC? Well, stupid terrorists, maybe yeah, but...
3- Chinese terrorists? What, they showed up at Fleet Bank and tried to cash some US Treasury bonds to catapult America into economic chaos and fortify the Chinese empire?
what does one put in mulled wine?
Mullahs?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/
americas/4198633.stm
Heres the link for the above.
Steve Post alert- 4 PM on WNYC in New York.
Ripley - thank you for that link - I just posted that story over at First Draft.
I credited you - I know nothing about the source (not you, expatrica.com)
"what does one put in mulled wine?"
-nymary
depends, usuaully cinnamon, cloves, cardamoum(sp?), sugar, dried orange peel (fresh ones are oily, if you don't have dried ones just leave it out.) if you are scandinavian you would also put about a bottle of brandy in it as well. warms you right up.
"Dean for America bumper stickers work much better or if you're really in a childish mood a "Free Palestine" bumper sticker and a call to the local police that you saw him videotaping prominant local attractions would just be wrong and of course I never suggested it because nobody should do something like that ever."
SWR
I agree. Never. I had a friend in grad school who volunteered as some sort of orderly at a hospital in a pretty bad area of Detroit. There was an armed security guard there who was always pushing he and the other orderlies around, intimidating them and bullying them. They finally got fed up and two of them decided to teach him a lesson, although this was a really bad thing to do. They waited to see him come out of the locker room after changing clothes when he got off work. He came out of the locker room in a pair of blue jeans, a read shirt and a brown jacket. They went to the payphone, dialed 911 and said, we just saw a guy wearing bluejeans, a red shirt and a brown jacket walking around the hospital (forgot the name now) and he is carrying a gun. They waited a few minutes and went off following his path. He hadnt made it out of the building. He was on the floor, face down, hands behind his neck with 4 Detroit city cops, guns drawn and pointed at him.
I just realized that I said "terrorism" once, "terror" twice and "terrorist" 3 times in that comment.
Hang on... someone's knocking on my door...
However, when they pass the barware is mine!
My father-in-law was a buyer for Gimble's in NYC before taking a job with the May Co. in Cleveland (back when being a buyer was a great job). He and my mother-in-law used to get the most fabulous presents at Christmas. One year he received a beautiful bar set fom Cartier which we now own.
Never been out of the box, although we may eventually get back into mixed drinks.
*Question: Do you know what "Joy Division" is a reference to?*
Yeah, the Nazi version of comfort women.
You miss the snarky reference in Spandau Ballet.
It's the prison where they kept Rudoph Hess.
Wow, I'm reading that bio link - he sounds like the perfect Bush cabinet member.
Oh, Guy!
Snowdog dojo - what a beee-yu-ti-ful critter!!! Magnificent!!
Thanks for the snow pix. I'm envious.
Wow, I'm reading that bio link - he sounds like the perfect Bush cabinet member.
I'm guessing you mean this part:
Hess was a shy, insecure man who displayed near religious devotion, fanatical loyalty and absolute blind obedience to Hitler. In 1934, Hess gave a revealing speech stating - "With pride we see that one man remains beyond all criticism, that is the Führer. This is because everyone feels and knows: he is always right, and he will always be right.
Tena, I got it from dkos and they got it from The Left Coaster
Sorry about that....
I'm guessing you mean this part:
Why, yes. Yes, I do.
Putting Steve Post on already paid off. He just said "My wife calls the state that the country is in right now an Idiocracy".
I'm guessing you mean this part:
Why, yes. Yes, I do.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 4:11 pm | #
By contrast, have you read a good biography of Roosevelt?
Roosevelt loved to have cabinet members from all over the political map and have them fight it out in front of him.
He never trusted anything from one point of view, liberal or conservative.
That's why he had conservative Republican Henry Stimson and outright Socialist Henry Wallace in the same administration.
SWR,
I've had one too many martinis (the olives always suck my in.) Not being snarky. Anything but burning forever in the 6th circle of hell is too good for Rumsfeld. He has order the deaths of tens of thousands of people. Since I know he is a minion of Satan himself, imprisonment in hell won't affect him. So let him be in a 80's pop band and languish in obscurity.
By contrast, have you read a good biography of Roosevelt?
No, but I like the approach you describe. If the preznit's cabinet members and advisors are all sock puppets and yes-men, there's really nothing to stop the preznit from an unending string of godawful decisions.
Hypothetically, of course.
Ripley - Don't apologize, for heaven's sake. I mean, I could edit the post to include Kos, but that's alright. Not that important. I just said that you had provided the link in comments here.
Cleveland Bob taling about shoveling/blowing snow w/headphones on. Tractors have come a long, long way. One can now purchase a "tractor" that has a cab completely encased in glass (or whatever it is), air conditioned/heated, and with whatever speakers and sound system one wants.
Can we imagine....the scenery, the music, the comfort level, driving this 21st century "tractor" with some help from the wonder-herb. Jeebus in absentia, what a delight that would be.
Way OT but here's the followup to something I posted last week.
Nugent Raises $19,000 for Crawford Marching Band
Knowing a thing or two about Nugent and having seen him live, I just can't imagine what this scene must have been like.
"You kids deserve to play at the inauguration and Deadly Tedly's gonna send you there! (crowd roars) So who likes that Wang Dang Sweet Poontang??? Let's Rock!!!"
pie - O that sounds like a real treasure. Anything from Cartier is. Wow.
Have you read any Henry Wallace? The guy was just about prophetic...
I've had one too many martinis (the olives always suck my in.) Not being snarky. Anything but burning forever in the 6th circle of hell is too good for Rumsfeld.
Being a Dante fanatic, I'd have to disagree.
The 6th Circle of Hell is reserved for heretics and you don't quite get the purely evil there yet.
You have some pretty admirable characters like Farinata, who prevented the destruction of a recalictrant city.
Rumsfeld ordered the destruction of a recalcitrant city.
For destroying the language of American democracy, for poisoning the words "freedom" and "liberty" in the eyes of the world, they deserve nothing less than the Ninth Circle itself.
At the center of the Earth, completely submerged in ice. The three ultimate traitors are held in Lucifer's three mouths. Lucifer's three wings send forth freezing blasts of impotence, ignorance and hatred.
Sarah (any relation to John?) Deere - I'm almost positive there's a metaphor in there somewhere...
SWR,
Sorry if my sarcasm in my first post didn't come through. Let Rumsfeld languish in the Hague in obscurity to be ridiculed then forgotten by the U.S. media. To me, that is the most fitting punishment for this war criminal.
SWR, did you know the Harold Ickes in the Clinton administration was the son of Harold Ickes from FDR's cabinet?
Have you read any Henry Wallace? The guy was just about prophetic...
WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar (aka kono | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 4:19 pm | #
His stuff about American fascism. Yes.
Wallace was Roosevelt's token hick/farmboy. Some of his fellow cabinet members had to take him to Brooks Brothers to show him how to dress.
He knew "Red State" America intimately:
Fascism in the postwar inevitably will push steadily for Anglo-Saxon imperialism and eventually for war with Russia. Already American fascists are talking and writing about this conflict and using it as an excuse for their internal hatreds and intolerances toward certain races, creeds and classes.
It should also be evident that exhibitions of the native brand of fascism are not confined to any single section, class or religion. Happily, it can be said that as yet fascism has not captured a predominant place in the outlook of any American section, class or religion. It may be encountered in Wall Street, Main Street or Tobacco Road. Some even suspect that they can detect incipient traces of it along the Potomac. It is an infectious disease, and we must all be on our guard against intolerance, bigotry and the pretension of invidious distinction. But if we put our trust in the common sense of common men and "with malice toward none and charity for all" go forward on the great adventure of making political, economic and social democracy a practical reality, we shall not fail
SWR, it's been a little while since I read it, but I always pictured BushCo in the 8th circle. Or maybe it was Falwell and Pat "Miracle Man" Robertson there... anyhoo, I remember the 8th circle standing out for some reason....
SWR, did you know the Harold Ickes in the Clinton administration was the son of Harold Ickes from FDR's cabinet?
Yes.
I've read an interesting story about Henry Stimson, that he was shocked and dismayed that there weren't any mass protests in America after we nuked Hiroshima.
I have no idea if they're true or if they're only something that's come through the rumor mill.
I haven't read his journals or anything so I don't know.
would imagine that if you're a TV pundit/columnist/editor and you're discussing the president's recent inaugural speech, it's probably appropriate to disclose
Perhaps Krauthammer was merely too embarassed of that "Ode to the Neocons" piece of garbage that we were assaulted with to actually claim it. The speech should have been a short, "look up pnac.org for more of my senseless rantings about 'seizing the opportunity' to reshape the post-USSR world."
But if we put our trust in the common sense of common men and "with malice toward none and charity for all" go forward on the great adventure of making political, economic and social democracy a practical reality, we shall not fail
He must be spinning in his grave.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 4:23 pm | #
So even with the best of warnings. What the fuck is the excuse meant to be?
Gee, it's almost like someone read this and said, hey, that sounds like a really good idea.....
Tractors have come a long, long way. One can now purchase a "tractor" that has a cab completely encased in glass (or whatever it is), air conditioned/heated, and with whatever speakers and sound system one wants.
Much better than coming in at the end of the day with black teeth and blowing black snot out of your nose.
LATimesAs they drafted the speech this month, White House political aide Karl Rove and chief speechwriter Michael Gerson held a two-hour seminar with a panel of foreign policy scholars, including several leading neocons — newspaper columnist Charles Krauthammer, Fouad Ajami of Johns Hopkins University and Victor Davis Hanson of Stanford's Hoover Institution — according to a person who was present.
pie: The may COmpany
i spent years 1950-1960 in cleveland and environs. West side, lakewood. I remember going downtown for the Christmas pageantry, lights, crowds. Santa at BOTH May CO, and Higbee's (right? it seems there were really only two big department stores in downtown)...winter in Cleveland...i usta get blisters on my hands from shoveling snow, circa 1958-59...shoveled for pretty cheap and hoped for tips...thanks for the sudden recuerdo excursion...
Way OT but here's the followup to something I posted last week.
Nugent Raises $19,000 for Crawford Marching Band . . .
Ripley | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 4:18 pm
I've tried to wrap my head around what kind of sycophantic dipshit would move to a dust hamlet just because the president lives there. How much of an idiot is ol' SpoogeNuge gonna feel like when Bush sells the campaign prop/ranch when it is no longer useful for photo ops of him "cutting brush".
IOKIYR
in bushworld, ethics are like facts: 'whatever is convenient'.
As they drafted the speech this month, White House political aide Karl Rove and chief speechwriter Michael Gerson held a two-hour seminar with a panel of foreign policy scholars, including several leading neocon
Say it aint so! Wasn't the Bush WH claiming that neocon ideologues have little to no influence on our foreign policy? Seems like Bush announced in his speech that he is now Head Neo Con-Man.
I've tried to wrap my head around what kind of sycophantic dipshit would move to a dust hamlet just because the president lives there.
A Bushist cultist.
May CO, and Higbee's
And Halle's. That's when department stores were in their prime. Christmases there were wonderful, magical places. I didn't live there, but heard a lot about it. I went to them when I first started dating my husband, but the end was already in sight. All three are gone or have been bought by other stores.
Progress.
Dirk, it's very odd - Nuge was the ultimate MI loyalist. I saw him with Hagar once and Hagar offered him a guitar - Nuge said he only played Gibsons because they were made in Kalamazoo, apparently not knowing they had shut down the Kzoo shop and made them all in Nashville, I think.
I have to wonder if the Repubs maybe tried to distance themselves from him a little - he's got a fast mouth and he's a not-so-closet mysoginist. I'd always been fairly neutral about him but with the Damn Yankees and his support for Bush, I have to draw the line.
Dirk, Michigan is happy to be rid of hi. Maybe some of the other wackos we have here will follow him.
It's telling that the incoherent ravings of the fratboy coward coronation address was influenced by the muddled mind of the shithead Krauthammer.
Krauthammer proves that you don't have to have reason or intelligence to get a doctorate in this country. The man is a disgrace to the higher education system.
Nuge said he only played Gibsons because they were made in Kalamazoo, apparently not knowing they had shut down the Kzoo shop and made them all in Nashville, I think.
Nice anecdote! Combines his MI loyalty with his ignorance in one tidy little package!
Say it aint so! Wasn't the Bush WH claiming that neocon ideologues have little to no influence on our foreign policy? Seems like Bush announced in his speech that he is now Head Neo Con-Man.
GN | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 4:32 pm | #
It's pretty obvious that the main difference between Bush and Reagan is that Reagan had a balance between Neo Cons and Kissingerite Realists in his cabinet and Bush has pretty much decided to let the last of the Kissingerites (Powell, Armitage) resign and replace them with hard core neo cons.
A Detroit radio station shut down an interview with the asshole maybe two years ago, because he started saying some really *lovely* things about blacks.
A real genius. Scum.
Dirk, Michigan is happy to be rid of hi. Maybe some of the other wackos we have here will follow him.
pie | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 4:35 pm
Yeah, that's cool . . . we used to his kind around here. Also, not that there is anything wrong with dust hamlets like Crawford, I'm from a small Texas town myself . . . just not one that had the bad fortune of being picked to be a photo shoot/filming location for the Riefenstahl-ist's that we call the "librul" media.
Bush has pretty much decided to let the last of the Kissingerites (Powell, Armitage) resign and replace them with hard core neo cons.
Yup. But not that he needed to actually fire Powell to unleash neoconservative theory; the war on Iraq has the neocon "Pinky and the Brain" mentality written all over it.
the war on Iraq has the neocon "Pinky and the Brain" mentality written all over it.
I think so, Brain - but where are we going to find napalm and mayonnaise at *this* hour?
Speaking of small Texas towns, has anyone read "That Old Ace in the Hole" by Annie Proulx? Takes place in the Texas panhandle. I'm in the middle and really enjoying it.
Did anyone catch the WaPo headline from this morning:
"Bush speech not a sign of policy shift, officials say"
with the subhead of:
"address said to clarify 'values we cherish'"
http://tinyurl.com/6v938
Is this a flip or a flop?
Way OT but here's the followup to something I posted last week.
Nugent Raises $19,000 for Crawford Marching Band . . .
Do these people realize what "Cat Scratch Fever" was about? Didn't anyone else watch the VH-1 "Behind The Music"? Not a guy I want around any teen-aged girls.
I have long believed that liberals were filled with guilt and conservatives with venom and rage...the septic-taknk remarks posted here by those right of center seem clearly to bear out my generalization.
My heart goes out to you and your wife, Bob. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Eli,
yeah - less enterprising branch of the family (Deere), but, still. My dad sold his portion of the family (historic) farm many yrs ago.
Question: ethics/morals. My contention is that ethics are universal, morals are personal. Agree/disagree?
thanks,
SD
Ripley thanks so much for that link. I have been trying to find a cure for my rethuglican friend, so far no good. He refuses to accept what's happening in Gitmo and Abu Ghraib are torture. So I forwarded him the link. Any bets on whether he'll ever speak to me again?? Oh and for the record my absolute 2 favorite cartoons were The Angry Beavers and Danger Mouse. But nowadays there's nothing good on anymore.
Sarah - I have long held the belief that ethics are attached to your conscience. They are the rights and wrongs. But morals are the rights and wrongs that society imposes on you. In a way we're ingrained with eithics cause it's the way we should behave sort of like the golden rule. And I think that you can't give up eithics entirely unless you're a sociopath, but a person can be either immoral or unmoral. Bush may have ethics buried in there somewhere (I bet he doesn't sleep well), but I don't think he's moral.
Amy, which link? Nugent?
I was a rabid fan of Danger Mouse, I never meet anyone that knows about it. Banana Man was another favorite, they played them together on some station about 17 years ago.
So I see in the link to the LA Times that Krauthammer is described as a "foreign policy scholar." WTF?! I know he's a defrocked shrink, but does anybody knows of any substantive expertise he possesses in foreign policy to merit being called a scholar. I know he has opinions... And while speaking of Charlie the K, it was just a few days ago that James Wolcott wrote of him as being "as mechnical as a player piano. Put a quarter in the slot, and he churcns out a column that sounds like senility set to a ragtime rhythm."
As for "ethics" and "Krauthammer," no point of contact.
amy - you might want to check out the Aqua Teen Hunger Force on cartoon network's adult swim. The Mooninites crack my shit up. Plus, what's not to love about Karl?
Damn, yeah...i forgot Halle's...and there was a softee joint just off the big concourse in the Terminal Tower that had the most distinctive flavored confection I ever remember consuming up until and til considerably after that time...
I remember Banana Man too. Wow! You Can't Say That on Television was right before Danger Mouse and my brother and I used to stay up and watch it. The Expatica link. Although the Congressional link was really good too. Can ya'll see how it won't be American to have an election in 2008 if we're so embroiled in the Middle East? We're so close to a dictatorship it's really very scary. I mean with the armed forces gone who'll help us against them?
Oh, for crying out loud, Duncan, can't you come up with anything significant? Right wing bloggers took down Trent Lott, CBS and KOS while you are still piddling around with your thumb in your ass.
Duncan, here's a hint:
Come up with something important and you just may redeem some of your lost credibility.
Sheesh.
Aqua Teen Hunger Force is funny. I really like the Shake guy. And the neighbor (larry?).
Oh, for crying out loud, Duncan, can't you come up with anything significant? Right wing bloggers took down Trent Lott, CBS and KOS while you are still piddling around with your thumb in your ass.
Maybe you would know the answer to this.
Is Zephyr Teachout related to Terry Teachout of the Wall Street Journal?
It's a blog, MX, not the be all-end all of political discourse and action. The topics are his to choose; there are no talking points handed down from Sr. Editors, ala Fox (snicker) News.
And it's not like Charles Krauthammer has cornered the market on breaking news and opinions in American politics. He's Anne Coulter with the treble turned down - same sycophantic BushCo cheerleading routine, in suspenders.
Amy, what are your thoughts on Sea Lab? I think it's flipping hysterical, esp with Eric Estrada on there... cartoons... sigh..
I'm also a Family Guy nut and I like the Dr Katz and Paula Poudstone cartoons that were on a while back.
PS - I'm 38 but soooo childish... childlike? umm.... me likey cartoons....
you'd think he's be proud..of course there was the attack by the Nooner - so maybe sourKraut decided to be modest
Kraphimmler and Vicar Hamster wrote that fanaticist's screed? I can believe it. It's straight up their alley. "Freedom, freedom everywhere, nor any rights to keep"
I have seen Sea Lab a couple of times and laughed my ass off. And I watched Family Guy when it first came on and thought it was a tribute to how stupid Fox is (in general) that they cut it then brought it back on because of the DVD sales. I've always been a huge cartoon (and Muppets) fan and no matter how old I get I don't see that changing. And now that I have a kid old enough to enjoy them with me I'm disappointed that the daytime cartoons suck so much. By the way Ripley, how's the snow? I used to live in New England (both Boston and NE VT) as well as Cinci but now thankfully live in WA where we get rain instead. I beleive I paid my dues when it comes to snow. I hate being cold.
I like what Dmitri Simes of the conservative 'Richard Nixon Institute' said, "If that speech was serious, we have an extremist in the Oval office"
WGG, the frostee joint was in Higbee's basement. They were called Frosted Malteds, and they were wonderful.
In addition to Higbee's, May's and Halle's, there was in my day Sterling Lindner Davis, which had its floors arranged around a sort of atrium. At Christmas they had an enormous live tree that went up several stories. Our family tradition was to go and see that tree, and visit the Santa there. Then we'd stop at Morrow's Nut House (or House of Nuts?) for a box of cashews to take home. Morrow's was near May's, and they used to exhaust their roasting smells outdoors to tempt passers-by.
All long gone.
BTW, the weather channel said a few days ago that Cleveland had had 60.5 inches of snow so far this winter - before the current storm. Why I finally gave up and left.
We used to love watching Danger Mouse. I think it ran on Nicklelodian (sp?) didn't it. Don't remember Banana Man but do recall Bananas in Pajamas
You're absolutely right Klyde.
Has anyone here ever read Little Green Men by Christopher Buckley? It's actually a great rip on Rush Limbaugh, I think.
I like what Dmitri Simes of the conservative 'Richard Nixon Institute' said, "If that speech was serious, we have an extremist in the Oval office"
Earth to Dmitri. It is serious. The Kissingerite/Nixonian realists got their butts kicked.
Powell and Armitage are going back home to dwell on just how punked they were.
James Baker and Brent Scowcroft are getting set to move into the senior citizens wing at the home for the poltically irrelevent.
Just for any new people out there
Oh, for crying out loud, Duncan,
an econ prof who taught in Belgium; clearly, the inferior of some kid with the Army video game and an internet connection
can't you come up with anything significant?
that's actually kind of a joke around here: the prople you would be accuising...run everything. It's like keeping track of a third world dictator's actions and then getting blamed when he fails to indict himself (without of course killing you). In a way it's good that Rethugs with their established penchant for violence do not worry so much about him.
Right wing bloggers took down Trent Lott,
this is sort of like giving Richard Nixon credit for the civil rights movement. We don't remember any uppity [time-]negroes around the time of Trent's remark, do you?
CBS
fantastically wrong. It is true that the pro-genocide racist bloggers such as LGF threw a number of wild acccusation-like screamings at CBS, but none of this matters, because none of it struck. For example, they alleged that a typeface developed in the nineteenthirties did not exist until sixty years later. What took down four producers at CBS was CBS--specifically, pro-Bush execs at Viacom (one of the impartial inquisitors mandating the axing was tied professionally to George H.W. Bush for most of his life), American telejournalistic skill and a fantastic almost English standard of evidence.
and KOS
having been fantastically wrong, he is now just lying.
while you are still piddling around with your thumb in your ass
the best refutation of this is to keep visiting (or catch Eschaton in a book thread. those are awesome but you wind up spending a lot of money).
CBS
fantastically wrong. It is true that the pro-genocide racist bloggers such as LGF threw a number of wild acccusation-like screamings at CBS, but none of this matters, because none of it struck. For example . . .
kei & yuri | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 6:00 pm
They've created a grand illusion in their collective heads, haven't they?
It is a beautiful metaphor for the larger collective dream that Bush is glorious "wartime" president . . . its all just a long Chevy commercial.
Chicagoland is a winter wonderland - thank god I'm stocked up on beer and pizza.
Amy, I agree. Morals = "mores", from the Latin.
Ethics are right/wrong.
I am not an especially "moral" person, were I to be judged by some community or another. But I would hope I am considered ethical by my peers - and beyond my peers.
ah I'm making bruschetta tonight with red wine - cause I only have 1 beer left and don't feel like going to the store for more
exactly Sarah - I don't care what society thinks I care what I think about myself. I couldn't live with being a bad person but some of these rules (morals) are just stupid
This just in - Dr. James Dobson decries "no two snowflakes are alike" statements by Left. Urges Xian families to boycott snow and move to Florida.
Guy: snow01.jpg is gorgeous. I used to see that sort of thing when I was little kid. My parents hated it but of all weather I loved blizzards the best; of course I didn't have to try to drive in them. They moved to Florida forty-two years ago and I never moved back up North. How I miss snow. Can I ask a favor: do you have a higher resolution version you could email me so I could use it as a background bitmap?
you know, it's not really possible to prove this about snowflakes. In fact, there was a guy who had a thesis about fingerprints (that they shouldn't be accepted as perfect damning idenitfiers because there could be repetition) in the same vein.
Who is this Freedom Based MURKAN?
Well, k&y, if Kerry hadn't gutted the CIA, maybe we'd be able to find out if that's true... [/freeptalk]
Reading thru the varied articles, I found the last sentence to be of interest...
"If we continue along our current route, Bush’s fire will certainly “purify” everything in its path – and destroy so much of life and civilization that there may not be a world left to save."
I remember from history that when the Germans invaded Russia, the Russians burned everything as they retreated, denying the invading Germans the luxury of using the Russian infrastructure to mount their invasion upon. In essence, they "purified" the German path to Moscow. In doing so, they destroyed so much of life and material that what was not much left to ignite a simple spark of life.
The Russian destruction was to deny the means of access to an invasion force. Bush, on the other hand, sounds as if he is going to set a trap and purify those who get tangled in his web of deception.
The world an only tolerate a bully for so long. The problem is, the bully will go away in a few years, but the stigma he creates will linger and the US will later feel the wrath of those scorned. Perhaps the fall of the Twin Towers is nothing but a prelude to what is in store for us in the future.
regards
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Ethics? You got to be kidding me! You are basing a blog entry off the 2nd hand reported story of Justin Raimondo?!?!? The man that thinks that "The Jews" were behind 9/11. You should be ashamed of yourself, Atrios.
Moad-Dib(dumb),
Get your head out of your ass.
I think alot more like Dr. Charles Crappenshitler since my brain tumor operation.
The surgeon spatulaed a bit more brain matter than tumor and so now I use wood spackel to even up my talking head...Just like Charles, well, except he has to have help as his little flipper arms only go so high...
Ethics? You got to be kidding me! You are basing a blog entry off the 2nd hand reported story of Justin Raimondo?!?!? The man that thinks that "The Jews" were behind 9/11. You should be ashamed of yourself, Atrios.
Duncan long ago gave up all ethical pretenses. That's why posts like this are so amusing. The right-wing blogosphere has proven itself a force to be reckoned with and the MSM sees that. Duncan, desperate to break through in his own right, falls for this nonsense and further marginalizes himself and his followers. Sadly, enough follow that the democrats listen and, in turn, they have lost credibilty as a political party. This is not good for the country, we need a strong and principled opposition party not a mob of foaming at the mouth lunatics. I am honestly hoping that Duncan has his moment in the spotlight. If he manages to root out a story and get it the attention it deserves he does us all a service. However, based on Duncan's track record, I will not hold my breath.
Oh hey Schwa! How much have you given to the tsunami relief fund?
Ethics? You got to be kidding me! You are basing a blog entry off the 2nd hand reported story of Justin Raimondo?!?!? The man that thinks that "The Jews" were behind 9/11. You should be ashamed of yourself, Atrios.
Schwa? | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 6:55 pm | #
Of course the fact that Bush's speech was right out of the loony right's wildest neocon fantasies can't be lost on you.
Once again, even a conservative has to find it disturbing that the last vestiges of any Kissingerite realism seem to have been purged from the Bush administration along with anybody in the CIA who doesn't toe the ideological line.
For anybody who wants to see a historical parallel, you should read Barbara Tuchman's book on Stilwell. There are some genuinely spooky similarties between the purge of the China experts under McCarthyism in the 1950s and the purge of any last trace of realism in the Bush administration today. Remember, the ouster of the real experts on China in the 1950s for political reasons led inevitably to Vietnam, 50,000 dead Americans, and the breakdown of the American military.
History repeats itself.
Ethics? You got to be kidding me! You are basing a blog entry off the 2nd hand reported story of Justin Raimondo?!?!? The man that thinks that "The Jews" were behind 9/11. You should be ashamed of yourself, Atrios.
It was the LA Times that reported the fact that Krapphammer and Hanson had a huge hand in the speech, not antiwar.com
As they drafted the speech this month, White House political aide Karl Rove and chief speechwriter Michael Gerson held a two-hour seminar with a panel of foreign policy scholars, including several leading neocons — newspaper columnist Charles Krauthammer, Fouad Ajami of Johns Hopkins University and Victor Davis Hanson of Stanford's Hoover Institution — according to a person who was present.
They waited a few minutes and went off following his path. He hadnt made it out of the building. He was on the floor, face down, hands behind his neck with 4 Detroit city cops, guns drawn and pointed at him.
I call bullshit the Detroit cops never respond that quickly in "the bad area" of the city. Unless you call and say there are a couple of N***ers raping a white woman. Then they would be on the spot in minutes.
As they drafted the speech this month, White House political aide Karl Rove and chief speechwriter Michael Gerson held a two-hour seminar with a panel of foreign policy scholars, including several leading neocons — newspaper columnist Charles Krauthammer, Fouad Ajami of Johns Hopkins University and Victor Davis Hanson of Stanford's Hoover Institution — according to a person who was present.
SWR
So, what do we have here? The president's speechwriter holds a seminar with a bunch of scholars? STOP THE PRESSES!
I repeat: what do we have here?
So, what do we have here? The president's speechwriter holds a seminar with a bunch of scholars? STOP THE PRESSES!
I repeat: what do we have here?
MisterX | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 7:48 pm | #
A conflict of interest between Kraphammer, who appears on cable TV shows pretending to be a journalist and his actual political affiliations.
For me a more blatent example is Pat Buchanan. Buchanan worked for Nixon and Nixon was the orginal source of the Swiftboat Vets organization. And yet Buchanan was allowed to pimp the Swiftboat vets for months before the election with nobody asking any questions.
And it's interesting that you tried to lie about the original source of the story. If it was nothing, then why try to say it came from antiwar.com and not the LA Times?
Oh and you never tried to answer my question. You brought up Zephyr Teachout and the Daily Kos.
Is Zephyr Teachout related to the Terry Teachout who's a longtime write for the WSJ?
Nobody's even bothered to look into this but it would raise some interesting questions if she were.
thankfully live in WA where we get rain instead.
you can have it. I had fifteen winters in Seattle and hated them all. I'd rather be in Manitoba.
The LAtimes is now considered to be a credible news source?
The LAtimes is now considered to be a credible news source?
danny | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 7:57 pm | #
Well most people outside of the genocide groupies at LGF think so.
But if it isn't, then why did "Schwa" and "Mister X" try to lie about the source of the story and say it was Antiwar.com?
Slips like this tell a lot about you.
A conflict of interest between Kraphammer, who appears on cable TV shows pretending to be a journalist and his actual political affiliations.
Wait, I get it. This is supposed to be like George Stephanopoulas pretending to be a journalist, right?
Wait, I get it. This is supposed to be like George Stephanopoulas pretending to be a journalist, right?
MisterX | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 7:59 pm | #
What do you think about the fact that Pat Buchanan was allowed to pimp the Swift Boat vets for months and nobody talked about how he was part of the Nixon administration?
But you can quibble about this story all you want.
The real issue is that Bush is obviously quite deeply influenced by extremists like Krapphammer and Hanson more than by the old Kissingerite wing of the party.
Imagine Eisenhower consulting McCarthy before a major speech and attending John Birch Seminars and you'll get an idea of how disturbing it is.
Bush is not a conservative. He's close to being a full-blown fascist.
Wait, I get it. This is supposed to be like George Stephanopoulas pretending to be a journalist, right?
MisterX
Oops, my mistake. George (clinton political veteran)is a moderator who prefesses objectivity while Krauthammer is a known conservative columnist who offers opinions.
Now I get it.
strangely, I am removed from Charles Krauthammer by a single degree of acquaintance, through an old Georgetown espresso-drinking buddy.
I've never met him personally, but Joe says he's a nice guy.
I have met a few people on the opposite end of the political spectrum who in real life are truly as reprehensible as they seem, but when it gets right down to it, most folks are human beings regardless of their political persuasions.
Sometimes I find it helpful to remember that.
Oops, my mistake. George (clinton political veteran)is a moderator who prefesses objectivity while Krauthammer is a known conservative columnist who offers opinions.
I never brought up Stephanopolous. You're talking to yourself.
I brought up Buchanan. Why was Buchanan allowed so much air time to pimp out the Swift Boat vets when he was quite possibly at the center of their origin in the Nixon administration?
And are Zephyr Teachout and Terry Teachout related?
Oops, my mistake. George (clinton political veteran)is a moderator who prefesses objectivity while Krauthammer is a known conservative columnist who offers opinions.
I have no joke here, I just like saying, "George Clinton, Political Veteran."
But if it isn't, then why did "Schwa" and "Mister X" try to lie about the source of the story and say it was Antiwar.com?
Excuse me but I don't recall lying about anything. Schwa criticized Duncan for linking to antiwar.com. Perhaps the fact that Duncan provided the link is the reason Schwa criticized him for using them as a source?
Sheesh, is it really that complicated?
Excuse me but I don't recall lying about anything. Schwa criticized Duncan for linking to antiwar.com. Perhaps the fact that Duncan provided the link is the reason Schwa criticized him for using them as a source?
And you approvingly quoted it without making the obvious correction.
As I said, slips like this say a lot.
Since you're not addressing the substance of anything I said so I'm assuming that your attempt to conflate the two sources represent your entire argument.
I'm getting bored with you. Why not go back to LGF and tell some Rachel Corrie jokes or fantasize about genocie a bit?
the one thing you might (momentarily) feel a little bad for the bushcriminal is when his handlers have there little catfights. The poor boy must be really lost and confused when that happens - kinda of schizo I would think.
Since the bushcriminal is dumb as a stump, he gives new meaning to the phase:
Stump Speech.
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And you approvingly quoted it without making the obvious correction.
What correction? Duncan is the one who vouches for them as a source.
Unfuckingbelievable.
"The poor boy must be really lost and confused when that happens - kinda of schizo I would think."
you can picture him yelling at himself, and/or hitting himself in the face, first with the right hand, then the left.
Excuse me but I don't recall lying about anything. Schwa criticized Duncan for linking to antiwar.com. Perhaps the fact that Duncan provided the link is the reason Schwa criticized him for using them as a source?
But just for laughs, why not address my point about Pat Buchanan.
Buchanan was allowed I'd guess to be about 20 hours of airtime to pimp out the Swift Boat vets.
Yet nobody brought up the fact that he worked for Nixon just like John O'Neil.
Nobody even asked.
Don't you find this strange?
Or do you want to quibble some more about the source of a blog entry?
What correction? Duncan is the one who vouches for them as a source.
Unfuckingbelievable.
MisterX | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 8:13 pm | #
No. He linked to a blog that quoted both antiwar.com and the LA Times.
Your entire point seems to depend upon conflating the two sources.
But why not address the point the LA Times article is making. Bush is now totally the captive of an extremist group within his own party.
Don't you find that disturbing?
What correction? Duncan is the one who vouches for them as a source.
Unfuckingbelievable.
MisterX | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 8:13 pm | #
And this post constitutes an actual lie, not just an approving quote of a lie.
Black never mentions antiwar.com
He mentions a blog called Cold Fury, and that blog quotes the LA Times as the source.
But this once again is boring me. I don't want to go back and forth with you for hours about a blog entry.
You obviously don't want to address any of the substance so it's not really worth continuing, is it?
But just for laughs, why not address my point about Pat Buchanan.
Buchanan was allowed I'd guess to be about 20 hours of airtime to pimp out the Swift Boat vets.
Yet nobody brought up the fact that he worked for Nixon just like John O'Neil.
Nobody even asked.
Don't you find this strange?
Or do you want to quibble some more about the source of a blog entry?
SWR
Just for laughs, sure.
nobody brought up the fact that he worked for Nixon just like John O'Neil.
Nobody even asked.
Don't you find this strange?
Not really. This is the state of "journalism" in this country.
Look, SWR, if you are unwilling to even hold Duncan accountable for his links then there is no point in trying to reason with you. Unsurprisingly, you are bringing up unrelated arguments that have their origins thirty years in the past. Typical. You guys do your best work thirty years in the past. If you ever make it back to the present moment let me know, there is a democratic party fighting for survival. They could use your help.
Yet nobody brought up the fact that he worked for Nixon just like John O'Neil.
Buchanan was a key member of Nixon's staff. O'Neill was given an insignificant patronage job in exchange for favors rendered.
what's your point?
He mentions a blog called Cold Fury, and that blog quotes the LA Times as the source.
You can't even follow a link. It mentions antiwar.com three times and LATimes zero times. This argument is pointless.
Buchanan was a key member of Nixon's staff. O'Neill was given an insignificant patronage job in exchange for favors rendered.
what's your point?
E. Rectal Frogpecker | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 8:30 pm | #
Markos Moulitsos had a short term consulting job with a political candidate who lost in the primaries.
What's *your* point.
Anyway, you obviously didn't see the coverage of the Swift Boat vets on the cable networks where Buchanan acted as the main pimp.
Nobody brought up his connection to the Nixon administration.
You can't even follow a link. It mentions antiwar.com three times and LATimes zero times. This argument is pointless.
MisterX | Email | Homepage | 01.22.05 - 8:30 pm | #
Whatever. The source of Kraphammer and Hanson as the advisors for the speech is from the LA Times, not a fringe website.
And you keep trying to ignore the important point for some petty blogsphere politics.
American foreign policy is now completely in the hands of quasi fascists.
But let me point out the historical parallel.
Israel = Tawain
Muslim World = Mainland China
Powell and the Realists = China Experts from the 1950s
Hanson and Kraphammer = McCarthy
Right now we're isolating ourselves diplomatically, militarily and financially as surely as Breznev's Russia was. We're not only pissing off a huge part of the world, China in the 1950s and the Arab world now, but we're pissing off even our allies.
So in a sense it's worse than our blunder of not dealing with China until the 1970s.
Sooner or later it's going to come crashing down on our heads.
Whatever.
SWR, you lie and dismiss it as whatever.
I've wasted enough of my time with you.
Goodnight.
SWR, you lie and dismiss it as whatever.
I've wasted enough of my time with you.
Goodnight.
Lie. I pointed out the correct source, the LA Times. You lied about it being antiwar.com.
And yet you don't address the substance of my posts. Sorry, this isn't LGF. Raising the antiwar.com/anti-semitism bogeyman doesn't cut it.
You actually have to have a point and be able to defend it. You obviously don't.
you know what? Anyone who supports W is no doubt an asshole, an ignoramus, an opportunist, a bigot, etc etc.
I am sick of their trying to justify their position. Their position is, really, indefensible.
There's nothing to compromise here.
Let them go their way, let us go ours.
But...I would say to their retreating backs....."Fuck you and everything you stand for."
SD
But...I would say to their retreating backs....."Fuck you and everything you stand for."
Oh. I agree. The only reason I even look at antiwar.com is because people like "Mister X" try to label it as "anti-semitic".
I assume that if they're trying to smear it it must have some trust buried inside.
But in this case the two trolls tried to pull a fast one. They tried to imply that the only source for the Hanson/Kraphammer story was antiwar.com when in fact the main source was the LA Times.
That's what they're trying really hard for you not to notice.
I only get hangovers if I mix othr thing with the hard stuff. Having said that, what does one put in mulled wine?
NYMary
Vodka.
It's not all that complicated. Chuckie and Hanson had a hand in the drafting of the speech, if they comment on it they have an obligation to let their audience know that they are not outside commentators but are cheering for their own work product. It's exactly the same kind of thing George Will did during Reagan's first campaign.
If we had an honest news media, one interested in describing what was going on in the world, perhaps analyzing it for possible implications and even venturing a modest suggestion as to how things should go then it would have an iron rule against this kind of fraternization. Without it the media are unable to resist the allure and profit of becoming part of the ruling elite.
Chuckie and co. are self-interested whores, not journalists. This is an important point since democracy is entirely dependent on an informed public, without an honest press democracy will always devolve into an oligarchy. With the press whore's full hearted participation. Bad journalism drives out the good.
Kraphammer is just another right wing token. They love to put up pundits who are like parodies of lib interest groups (Look, he's black! Look, she's a cute blonde (oops, I'm too drunk, it's just Ann Coulter!) Look, he has MS!) Krapper is bright, a fascist ideologue, and wheelchair bound so that the wingers will cluck at you if you give him the kind of scornful abuse he deserves.
SWR, you lie and dismiss it as whatever.
I've wasted enough of my time with you.
Goodnight.
These yo-yo's really crack me up. He thinks because Atrios linked to a piece that relied on antiwar.com three times to make a point, never once mentioning the LATimes, that is enough to make his point. So what if he never linked to the LATimes? Do we have to do all the work for them? Fuckwits.
SWR, do you have the link to the LATimes story? I want to see just what bullshit that freeper cripple is trying to pull.
SWR, agreed. I would have your back on this one, which is to say, I would do what I could to help you in the "argument."
SD
Since I wrote the post that Atrios linked to, here are a few radical thoughts:
ONE: Rather than smearing the site I linked to (and which I linked to twice, not three times), why not inquire into WHAT IS TRUE, RATHER THAN WHO SAID IT? I realize that might stop much of this conversation, but there you go...
TWO: Why not inquire into what the actual issues are that ought to concern us, rather than attacking WHO SAID WHAT...which removes us several degrees from the FACTS and from the ISSUES that might deserve our attention? Just a suggestion...
THREE: For the record, smearing Antiwar.com with the "anti-Semite" accusation is a favorite of the neocon, Bushie, warblogging community -- and in the case of Antiwar.com, IT IS NOT TRUE. But it's a handy way to avoid discussing the issues altogether.
FOUR: As far as I can tell, anyone who doesn't sign on to Georgie's Excellent Adventure in Neofascism is an anti-Semite, a babykiller, a serial rapist and murderer, or some combination of all of the above. Nice.
FIVE: I'm done.
SIX: No, I'm not. The original source for the information was indeed the LA Times, and not Antiwar.com. It helps to follow links.
Arthur (Oh, and the name of my blog is The Light of Reason; it's only hosted at coldfury.com, but otherwise not affiliated with it.)
God Hates Gaffs
Freedom-based Patriotic Americ from like, afternoon or so:
But dude, power always beats freedom! Your wealth gets redistributed either way. Take another hit before you answer me back, my bro.
flippinfloppin
In regards to Atrios' affirmation of Justin Raimondo by using him as a source, You Link It, You Own It! Way to go, Atrios...bringing some street cred to the man that has promoted that Israel and "The Jews" were behind 9/11.
Ok, it would have been a bit cleaner to have linked directly to the LA Times but the information is still there. To use a link through an obscure blog to deflect attention to what should be a press scandal only serves the guilty.
How in the world did our press let the Nixon view of the world call itself "realist". It's a racist view of the world that depends on non-white (perhaps excepting rich Asians) rolling over and taking neo-colonialism without major problems. Hasn't turned out that way wherever people have the ability to fight back.
Maybe it's by comparison to the neo-cons who are even more pixilated. Vietnam was the "realist" war, Iraq the neo-con war. We can only afford one huge, immoral, hate-generating, expensive disaster per group. The fascists will have to come up with a new movement with new idiots to staff it before they get another imperial war.
Jim:
Kraphammer is just another right wing token. They love to put up pundits who are like parodies of lib interest groups
Yeah, cos everyone knows how blacks, women and people with disablities are all liberals.
Look, he has MS!) Krapper is bright, a fascist ideologue, and wheelchair bound so that the wingers will cluck at you if you give him the kind of scornful abuse he deserves.
It's amazing how simply accusing someone of being a "token" or being a tool of the right-wing is enough to excuse their critics of usual standards of social decency. Why bring up the fact that Krauthammer is in a wheelchair in the first place? Why make an issue of it?
The only reasons to bring up Chuckie being in a wheelchair are:
- to contrast his attitude to the ADA with his attitude towards other civil rights legislation,
- for those interested, to try to find some explaination for why he's such a hate filled bastard.
I don't need it for the second having given up trying to find an explaination beyond the fact that all conservatives are selfish, selfcentered, egomaniacal, dirtballs.
I hope no conservative would use his disability to excuse his ethical lapse here. No, they'd never try that, would they?
I am still curious about how the expression "new order" (Hitler's stump phrase) found its way into the speech -- pure accident? A speechwriter who knew the term, thought it sounded good, but didn't know where it came from? Was it deliberately slipped in by one of the too many cooks who hatched up this vapid mush? I would love to know
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