I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
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mo
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mooooj
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HR!
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I can say no more.
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All right, break it up
Ms. Goodling is the spawn of evil.
I should probably take off my belt and discipline her.
speaking of monica goodlinks
"Don't ever send this kind of email to me."
Heh. There's a nice way to speak to your wife. Your partner. Your equal.
What really bothers me about Goodling and the rest of these lawyers for Bush is that they have to know, I mean they absolutely have to know, that this is going to unravel. That is something lawyers just know.
Religious wackos are great for guilt. Come to Jesus, Monica.
http://www.somebits.com/~nelson/
...ggartCrying.jpg
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Religious wackos are great for guilt. Come to Jesus, Monica.
http://www.somebits.com/~nelson/ ...ggartCrying.jpg
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QuentinCompson
Stop flirting.
NTodd, I would pay hefty admission to see you discipline Ms. Goodling.
Suck my gravatar
questions that several United States attorneys said were inappropriate, like who was their favorite president and Supreme Court justice.
a goddamn lickmust test?
I'm glad Monica's squealing like a pig but I'd still like to see her do hard time.
I have problems too, you know.
NTodd, I would pay hefty admission to see you discipline Ms. Goodling.
Since I am chopped liver, I shall be selling myself for $0.30/lb.
NTodd, I would pay hefty admission to see you discipline Ms. Goodling.
I'll post a link to the video shortly.
I mean they absolutely have to know, that this is going to unravel. That is something lawyers just know.
cosmic tumbler
Did they all really believe Rove was going to bring about a "new millennium" of Republican rule?
I mean they absolutely have to know, that this is going to unravel. That is something lawyers just know.
cosmic tumbler
...actually, as much younger and better-looking dirty fxxking hippies than we are now, many of us said the same things about the people surrounding Richard Milhouse Nixon back in 1973...
I mean they absolutely have to know, that this is going to unravel.
Moyers had a segment on Regent University law school tonight. I'd never hire anybody from a place like that, if for no other reason than that degree of self-righteousness really hinders a person's ability to think critically.
Oliver Willis wrote something very funny:
http://www.oliverwillis.com
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Media Re-Elects Al Sharpton As Official Spokesman For Black America
Sharpton celebrates victory as the Official Voice Of The Black Man
NEW YORK, NY - With over 65% of precincts reporting, Al Sharpton has been re-elected as the spokesman for black Americans.
Every four years representatives from broadcast and cable news, newspapers, local television and a few conservative bloggers go to the ballot box and vote to see who will represent "the blacks". Harry Throckmorton, editorial director for Fox News Channel said "A lot of people say we should look for more black voices in the media, that when a racial issue comes up we shouldn't just always run to Al Sharpton. To those people I say: I couldn't make my tee time if I did that."
"I'm a loudmouth who just says any old thing that comes to my head", Sharpton told the throng of microphones that follow him 24-7, "and that means the media loves me. Sure, coming to me all the time gives many Americans a warped perspective of what all blacks believe, but hey, what am I going to do - not talk? Better God strike me down dead."
For his second place finish in the election, Rev. Jesse Jackson will serve as Vice Official Voice Of The Black Man.
I should probably take off my belt and discipline her.
NTodd
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It would be the Christian thing to do.
I must drift.
Moyers had a segment on Regent University law school tonight. I'd never hire anybody from a place like that, if for no other reason than that degree of self-righteousness really hinders a person's ability to think critically.
MP
Hitler would have done well at Regent.
I am hereby naming my popcorn-popper "W".
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NTodd, I would pay hefty admission to see you discipline Ms. Goodling.
I'll post a link to the video shortly.
NTodd, Malevolent Orgasm | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 12:28 am | #
I await it with breathless anticipation.
questions that several United States attorneys said were inappropriate, like who was their favorite president and Supreme Court justice.
Easy: Bush, and Goodling.
...actually, as much younger and better-looking dirty fxxking hippies than we are now, many of us said the same things about the people surrounding Richard Milhouse Nixon back in 1973...
Jack K, the Grumpy Forester
Touche. I guess it is always about power.
“She believes you’re a Democrat and doesn’t feel you can be trusted.”
Damned if that doesn't nicely sum up the past six years in one concise sentence.
simels - you realize the video will feature white people. Soundtrack by Yes.
Just watching Moyers on Robertson's law school.....
Fucking scary.
Hmm ... polygamy and crotchless pantaloons and a wooden spoon. Oh ... I'm sorry ... what was your question ?
Just watching Moyers on Robertson's law school.....
Fucking scary.
angryspittle
I know, I saw it earlier. Can't sleep.
simels - you realize the video will feature white people. Soundtrack by Yes.
NTodd, Malevolent Orgasm | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 12:33 am | #
Yipes!!!
Ideologues always crash and burn eventually... democracy is the shovel with which to bury them.
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I really hope you are right Mr X.
Fucking scary.
angryspittle
I love Moyers. But his show keeps making me want to throw things at my TV.
FU Haloscan cookies!
My concern is the damage they do in the meantime.
"CNN International Chyron: "Bush Resigns"
Following up on this post, it did happen. Here's a screen grab from CNN International around midnight ET:"
http://www.mediabistro.com/
tvnew...signs_58889.asp
Ridcully, sweets, you need to drink more.
A Fat Tire Ale?
Ideologues always crash and burn eventually... democracy is the shovel with which to bury them. - MisterX
Must first be applied up-long-side the head of said ideologue.
When I watched Moyers tonight I realized the divide in this country is as greater as it has been since the civil war.
Ridcully, sweets, you need to drink more.
A Fat Tire Ale?
Sallyh
Yeah. Especially during and after Moyers. But at least Dr. Who was good. Woof!
Me and Terry Schiavo are like ... you know ... doing it.
"Republicans and right-wing sympathizers have been insisting for weeks now that there is "no evidence of a crime." Leaving aside the reams of circumstantial evidence that's piled up, the primary reason there has been no "smoking gun" is because Congress hasn't had access to the most crucial aspects of the potential crime — Goodling and the millions of missing emails. Well, they have Goodling now."
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
When I watched Moyers tonight I realized the divide in this country is as greater as it has been since the civil war.
Reconstruction weren't no picnic.
ooo oo! business opportunity!
I love Moyers. But his show keeps making me want to throw things at my TV.
A TV with a built in chickenwire cage around it! oo yeah! now I just need to figure out a way to block the spit.
Kindasleazy:
Everyone thought he had weapons......blah blah blah.
Yeah bitch, but it was only you assholes that went to fucking war, cunt.
Oish.
Gotta go to sleep...
Talk to you all in the matin,
j'espere.
I love Moyers. But his show keeps making me want to throw things at my TV. - Ridcully
Friend of a friend in 70's was purported to have put a round from his .357 through the face of Richard Nixon on his TV.
When I watched Moyers tonight I realized the divide in this country is as greater as it has been since the civil war.
cosmic tumbler
It irks the shit out of me that Shrub and his ilk approach compromise by first insisting on getting everything they want, *then* talking with others.
Fucking gangsters.
When I watched Moyers tonight I realized the divide in this country is as greater as it has been since the civil war.
cosmic tumbler | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 12:37 am | #
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I saw a sticker on the back of a 4 wheeler pickup that said "buy a gun. shoot a liberal"
Reconstruction weren't no picnic.
NTodd, Malevolent Orgasm
True, but i see that as a continuation of the civil war. Maybe it's all been a continuation of the civil war.
Sallyh is getting us all drunk. Whooooo...!
My concern is the damage they do in the meantime.
angryspittle
The Right has always been on the side of setbacks.
The sad thing to me is that the damage they do takes a half a lifetime or so to fix... I really had high hopes for the 21st century, but I'm starting to come to the conclusion that my children or grandchildren will hopefully live in the future society that could have been possible this decade if only the Shits hadn't wrested power...
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“She believes you’re a Democrat and doesn’t feel you can be trusted.”
how did she come by this knowledge? it remminds me of a supposed 18 year old would-be recruit caller to rush/handity - he said "I know Clinton destroyed the military, but which republican could save it?" ...
Where's my fucking astrologer ?
Simels, before you go, please regret my error.
Thank you.
I'm going to bed now because I think NTodd is going to show a scary movie.
Maybe it's all been a continuation of the civil war.
Certainly there are some folk below the Mason-Dixon line who feel that way!
monica goodstinks...... the weasel that could.
Wah of Nawthun Aggreshunn
Where's my fucking astrologer? - Laura Bush
You have exclusively for that? Do they do calculations of the blue moon for you?
Wah of Nawthun Aggreshunn
Trent Lott
Recent Unpleasantness.
Forward men!!
To the twelfth century!!
Gettin' so a man can't even hang a noose on the wall of his Senate office these days ...
The Uniter is the Greatest Divider.
The LTK Presidency: Lie, Torture, Kill.
Nice legacy, asshole.
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So we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaslessly into the past........
God, isn't the right grand??
via
Booman:
John Barrow (GA-12), Lincoln Davis (TN-04), Chet Edwards (TX-17), Jim Marshall (GA-0
, and Charlie Melanchon (LA-03) all opposed curtailing the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping.
Two hundred and twenty-two Democrats voted to reiterate the FISA law. Five did not. Are these clowns actually afraid to oppose the President over this constitutional overreach? Just to give you an idea how cowardly these five men are, twenty-three Republicans crossed the aisle to vote with Schiff. Thankfully, there are still some vestiges of libertarianism left in the GOP. But these five Blue Dog Democrats are scarlet letter disgraces. They are worse than pathetic. They have no party loyalty excuse. They just forgot their oath of office. Cowards. And they think this makes them look tough. Pfft.
No music from Atrios yet? If ya need a dirty fucking hippy fix, here is the #4 song of 1974 , the year Nixon resigned. Dirty fuckin' hippies are teh kool.
So we beat OFF, boats against the current, borne ceaslessly into the past........
God, isn't the right grand?? - Angryspittle
Typo fixed.
It's not the South, it's the racism and bigotry and etc.
Bad thinkers live all over the place in this country, but they're fairly inarticulate until they're given voice...
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Bad thinkers live all over the place in this country, but they're fairly inarticulate until they're given voice...
Are they clean?
It's not the South, it's the racism and bigotry and etc.
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Historically and statistically, the concentration is in the South.
When I was 5, I would sing a song when we'd get in the car:
Buckle up for Jesus! Buckle up!
Mister X, what I find disturbing is that over the past half dozen years, it's again acceptable to give voice to racist impulses. For a while, despite what one might think, it was considered bad form to enunciate one's prejudices.
OT blogwhore : Like public opinion only sooner
A couple of stories you gotta read together. Warning, It'll make your blood boil.
http://
seattletimes.nwsource.com...2003694662.html
http://www.kfdm.com/news/
bees_20..._apartment.html
Mister X, what I find disturbing is that over the past half dozen years, it's again acceptable to give voice to racist impulses. For a while, despite what one might think, it was considered bad form to enunciate one's prejudices.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere | 05.12.07 - 12:53 am | #
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Well said, Sally. Thank you.
Mister X, what I find disturbing is that over the past half dozen years, it's again acceptable to give voice to racist impulses. For a while, despite what one might think, it was considered bad form to enunciate one's prejudices.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Yes, absolutely, that's what bothers me too. The Bush years have created a climate where that kind of shit is OK again, after having been tamped down for the last 40 years or so... again, nice legacy, asshole.
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For a while, despite what one might think, it was considered bad form to enunciate one's prejudices.
Sallyh
It was a trick. They confused being PC with being civilized. So naturally, being Non-PC became an excuse for being an asshole.
FU Haloscan!
For a while, despite what one might think, it was considered bad form to enunciate one's prejudices.
Sallyh, Grandmere Poissonniere
Yes. I always hated the term "politically correct". Has nothing to do with politics. It's about not acting like a closed-minded asshole in public.
When I was 5, I would sing a song when we'd get in the car:
Buckle up for Jesus! Buckle up!
NTodd
when I was 25 my girlfriend and I would sing a similar song when we'd get into bed ... hold the Buckle for Jesus! hold the Buckle ... please.
Damn Ridcully, that was synchronistic.
Moyers is a national treasure.
Yes. I always hated the term "politically correct". Has nothing to do with politics. It's about not acting like a closed-minded asshole in public.
MP | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 12:56 am | #
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It's always been code for saying "I'm pissed off that I can't tell n*gger jokes anymore." Reagan collected a lot of these "disaffected" votes in 1980 and 1984. I know this personally from my own racist family.
They confused being PC with being civilized. So naturally, being Non-PC became an excuse for being an asshole.
Am I an asshole?
Hey, Steverino - this one's for you!
We can still tell faggot jokes though, right?
Am I an asshole?
Man, talk about shooting fish in a barrel...
Yes. I always hated the term "politically correct". Has nothing to do with politics.
Had a lot to do with politics, a means for the neocons for juxtaposing raceism.
I never bought into PC. I just thought good manners always carried the day.
Yes, George W Bush is a Dick Tater
Am I an asshole?
NTodd, Malevolent Orgasm | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 1:00 am | #
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Did someone on the Hindenburg drop a cigarette ?
We can still tell faggot jokes though, right?
NTodd, Malevolent Orgasm | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 1:01 am | #
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You can always malign a group that you are a member of.
Am I an asshole?
NTodd
Do you use the excuse "Well, I'm just not PC." to say or do racist things? Or use it to go out of your way to hurt someone because they are different?
If not, then no problem.
Man, talk about shooting fish in a barrel...
Yeah, I...HEY!
Did someone on the Hindenburg drop a cigarette ?
Doug Watts
Why did folks think that riding around under an enormous cloth bag of extremely flammable gas would work out OK?
Am I an asshole?
NTodd
well, not physically ...
If not, then no problem.
Oh, whew.
Why did folks think that riding around under an enormous cloth bag of extremely flammable gas would work out OK?
MP | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 1:06 am | #
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It's sort of like the guys driving trucks on barely frozen lakes and breaking through the ice and dying. And just before dying, they all say, Well, if someone had broken through right in the spot where I was driving, I wouldn't do it. [truck breaks through ice, guy dies]
Why did folks think that riding around under an enormous cloth bag of extremely flammable gas would work out OK?
Seemed like a good idea at the time.
Oh, whew.
NTodd, Just Not PC
No problem, for me. Which I certainly realize may mean nothing to anyone else.
Jeeze.
The show I linked to all wek describing an FBI investigation of the Republican candidate from Bud Cummins' same first disctrict in Arkansas was not aired this week.
Guess they stepped on the wrong toes?
I don't let bundles of wood fuck my daughter, I tell ya.
I'm dying to visit the Moyers blog... so many good topics there, where to start?
Well most recently I think higlighting Liqour Officer Pat Robertson's REMF contribution to the Korean War may be a start, since he covered their graduation and the goolding fiasco.
He put a former Regent dean in charge of all hires? She hired proportionately fromt he same school?
Can someone enforce the Hatch act?
Jeeze.
Gesundheit.
Seemed like a good idea at the time.
NTodd, Just Not PC
Didn't the Navy also have terrible accidents with those airships, until somebody finally said fuck it?
I blame Connecticut.
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I don't let bundles of wood fuck my daughter, I tell ya.
Would you let me?
Gesundheit.
NTodd, Just Not PC
Thank you.
Didn't the Navy also have terrible accidents with those airships, until somebody finally said fuck it?
Yeah, a few got lost or crashed. But I have in my head that the Navy was thinking about trying again? Maybe I was smoking crack when I thought of that...
Would you let me?
NTodd, Just Not PC | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 1:13 am | #
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Divorced Quaker.
Heh.
Sigh.
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I wasn't smoking crack: space command was interested.
Saw this horny young lady at the flea market.
She wanted a kiss.
I wanted to dicker.
Divorced Quaker.
I'm very trustworthy.
People need to know that this isn't just about Regent University and the Department of Justice, and that the phenomenon of neoconservative Republicans infiltrating key positions isn't confined to government.
Mr. Moyers, I hope you'll follow this piece with an in-depth look at Morton Blackwell's Leadership Institute -- particularly, its Journalism program, the same one that Jeff Gannon/J.D. Guckert used as a stepping stone to the White House Press Corps.
Thanks to institutions such as Regent University, groups like the Young Republicans/College Republicans, and organizations like the Leadership Institute, there has been a well-financed, organized effort to tip the scales of democracy in this country in place for years.
Remember, I am only citing examples. Think of a hydra, or a pack of hydrae. Or if you're a Trekkie, think Borg.
Civic-minded Americans are finally waking up to their strategy of multiply and conquer, working to expose every strand of the web jokingly referred to as the VRWC or Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
It exists, and many of us won't rest until it is swept away.
Posted by: wanderindiana | May 11, 2007 11:47 PM(Moyers comments)
Between 100,000 and 300,000 barrels a day of Iraq’s declared oil production over the past four years is unaccounted for and could have been siphoned off through corruption or smuggling, according to a draft American government report.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/
1...agewanted=print
Stripsearch Ollie North.
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Regent University sounds like the name of a university in "Clue" or the "The Game of Life."
Why now just call it "Vaguely Insignia Sounding University" ?
Civic-minded Americans are finally waking up to their strategy of multiply and conquer ...
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Ahem ...
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I don't let bundles of wood fuck my daughter, I tell ya.
Would you let me?
NTodd, Just Not PC | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 1:13 am | #
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Why now just call it "Vaguely Insignia Sounding University" ?
Too vaginal sounding.
Divorced Quaker
Isn't he the guy who did that "Israelite" song?
"I don't wanna end up like Bonnie and Clyde..."
Desmond Dekker !!!!
NTodd and the Depleted Johnsons is probly the best new band name of the nascent Spring 07 season.
Between 100,000 and 300,000 barrels a day of Iraq’s declared oil production over the past four years is unaccounted for
$6.5-19.5 million/day X 365 X 4
= $9.5 - $28.5 billion dollars unaccounted for. It's a good thing that the terrorists don't know anything about this.
Regent University sounds like the name of a university in "Clue" or the "The Game of Life."
Why now just call it "Vaguely Insignia Sounding University" ?
Doug Watts
Regent is a temporary caretaker, until the King can take over. The King is you know who.
Regent is a temporary caretaker, until the King can take over. The King is you know who.
King Edward V?
Regent is a temporary caretaker, until the King can take over. The King is you know who.
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Ernest Angley ?
Regent is a temporary caretaker, until the King can take over. The King is you know who.
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Amenhotep XIX ?
Can I set them up on the tee, or what?
Regent is a temporary caretaker, until the King can take over. The King is you know who.
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A mummified cat ?
Popcorn balls, bitches!!!
-The King is you know who.-
Elvis has just left the building?
"Pat Robertson's father was a US senator who intervened with the Marine Corps to have his son assigned to duty in the rear, away from combat. Robertson served in Korea as the "liquor officer" -- responsible for keeping the officers' clubs supplied with liquor. There he also was known to drink himself and to frequent prostitutes -- he even feared that he had contracted gonorrhea."
Reality 3:16
Desmond Dekker !!!!
It mek, pickney girl!
In 007 shanty town...
Secret princess?
http://rantsfromtherookery.blogs...els-
pretty.html
Groan!
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The World Bank executive board has concluded that the bank's president, Paul D. Wolfowitz, broke ethics rules in engineering a hefty pay raise for his girlfriend, and plans to try to end his tenure next week, senior bank officials said yesterday.
Board members do not want to vote to fire Wolfowitz, the officials said, since that might provoke a rupture with the bank's largest shareholder, the United States. Instead, they are inclined to adopt a resolution saying they have lost confidence in him, hoping that will persuade him to resign.
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Come on folks, show some guts and fire the comb-sliming bastard.
/drags out umbrella
I'm siiiiinnngggging in the raaaaaain oh I'm siiiinnnnnngggg in the rain...
/tappity tappity tappity
I wasn't smoking crack: space command was interested.
This should give them visual resolution of about 1 millimeter.
Do de do do dah de do de do dah de...
I'm singing ...
Just singing ....
In the rain....
first!
"Pat Robertson's father was a US senator who intervened with the Marine Corps to have his son assigned to duty in the rear, away from combat. Robertson served in Korea as the "liquor officer" -- responsible for keeping the officers' clubs supplied with liquor. There he also was known to drink himself and to frequent prostitutes -- he even feared that he had contracted gonorrhea."
"Where's my drink Spider? What am I on the pay no mind list? You stuttering prick."
"The rain is falling through the mist
Of sorrow that surrounded me.
The sun could never thaw away
The the bliss that lays around me.
Let it rain, let it rain,
Let your love rain down on me.
Let it rain, let it rain,
Let it rain, rain, rain.
Her life was like a desert flower
Burning in the sun.
Until I found the way to love,
It's harder said than done.
Now I know the secret;
There is nothing that I lack.
If I give my love to you,
You'll surely give it back."
HELL-O-SCAN.......
aaaiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whole Wide World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...h?
v=IBEPHLBrN9s
Wow, a three hour break in the comments.
So Haloscan sucks donkey cock. What's new?
Wow, a three hour break in the comments.
My donkey needs its cock sucked.
Where is Haloscan?
It's the dead of night...even the trolls are abed...
It's the dead of night...even the trolls are abed...
Buzz Bomb | 05.12.07 - 4:43 am | #
Fuck em. They're trolls.
Joe Strummer RIP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T...h?
v=TRwmZ2bp_B0
Fuck em. They're trolls.
steve simels
Trolls eat shit and suck ass...
OMG, Spinoza caught the slanties.
Hmmmm.
Now Laura is missing during the press the meat activities. Maybe she's exhausted from entertaining the queen.
OMG, Spinoza caught the slanties.
ql in ny | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 4:52 am | #
The horror, the horror!!!!
Hey QL -- what are you doing up so early?
Hmmm.
Dont know what the deal on Pickles is.
Wouldn't surprise me if she's hitting the sauce now. The need to numb must be great if you're married to shithead.
tnis scares me:
Rudolph W. Giuliani directly challenged Republican orthodoxy on Friday, asserting that his support for abortion rights, gun control and gay rights should not disqualify him from winning the party's presidential nomination.
He said that Republicans needed to be tolerant of dissenting views on those issues if they wanted to retain the White House.
.... what if he succeeds in bringing normal people back to the rethugs and gets himself elected
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2...h?
v=2YJo87ijRn8
Party the fuck on, turds.
I just have to say, before I return to bed, what a lovely group of people there are here. Morning.
Goodling = Fawn Hall
gwb:drf
Ah, sally. So witty and so wise.
I never bought into PC. I just thought good manners always carried the day.
So true.
gwb:drf
Well, more sleep sounds like a good idea to me. Have a nice time.
It's a new day. I love early morning.
gwb:drf
I could rule this place now.
gwb:drf
Morning, insomniacs!
If there's a new thread, I don't see it.
Where are all the depressed people? Oh, I know. When I'm depressed I can't get out of bed in the morning.
Also, I go to bed at 9:30 or so.
gwb:drf
Hi, plantsman.
gwb:drf
hell-o
I wonder if LFoD has a hangover today. He was drunky wunky last night.
gwb:drf
“She believes you’re a Democrat and doesn’t feel you can be trusted.” […]
Hmm. How things have changed!
Hi, dear sally.
gwb:drf
Hello, Sarah; how are you?
LFoD has been *so charming* of late; I might be sorry I missed him drunk. Or maybe not.
She sounds like a moron. She even sounds like a mormon.
gwb:drf
plantsman - It was very funny. LFoD is such a pathetic dweeb. I almost feel guilty for getting him riled up.
gwb:drf
Moonboo told LFoD to "sod off."
gwb:drf
Morning again peeps. I got Arabella beat. I go to bed around 8:30 and get up at 4:00. Can be nice most of the time. Just don't like trying to be quiet so as not to disturb the neighbors.
( It's funny. Crawling out of winter in this climate zone is s-l-o-w business. At the beginning of each month, the weather page in the paper lists how many rainy, cloudy, or clear days can be expected in the month ahead. By May, we're up to 3 or 4 clear days a month! One of them is expected Monday, and 81F. Can hardly wait!)
Moon's command of UK slang is prodigious and fearsome!
Hi ql. I was just about to ask where you were. I used to keep hours like yours and I loved it.
My husband is a night person, so we try to sync up.
gwb:drf
Goodling = Fawn Hall
gwb:drf
Arabella Trefoil | 05.12.07 - 5:29 am | #
Really?
Don't know about Goodling -- BTW, what a wonderfully Dickensian name -- but Fawn Hall was stone gorgeous.
Looked like a lusher version of Rita Hayworth.
Whoa!
plantsman - Where do you live?
I love it when Moonboo says "tosser" and "vulgar libertarian."
gwb:drf
Barry in Alaska sent me a lovely MP3 of some British guys performing a song called "The Bindley Tree" about a woman who would not let a Town Council destroy an evergreen she loved. He nailed me, but good on that one!
.... what if he succeeds in bringing normal people back to the rethugs and gets himself elected
wtf | 05.12.07 - 5:12 am | #
Not a snowball's chance in hell.
I live a stone's throw from the Willamette River, about 10 miles south of Portland, OR.
My husband is a night person, so we try to sync up.
gwb:drf
Arabella
Frequently we pass each other in the hall. Me getting up, he going to bed.
Adding together both civilian and military financing, the report concludes that the United States has spent $5.1 billion of the $7.4 billion in American taxpayer money set aside to rebuild the Iraqi electricity and oil sectors.
Despite those enormous expenditures, the performance is far short of official goals, and in some cases seems to be declining further.
diminishing returns...
steve - You just like Fawn Hall because of she stuffed documnents in her boots to smuggle them out of the White House.
gwb:drf
Having seen "great rivers" in the Eastern 2/3s of the country and harnessed-till-dryness rivers in the Southwest and CA, The Willamette and the huge Columbia are a bit of a shock. Real rivers, right here!
It is no accident that, in the English language, “spanking” has four common definitions - only one of which mentions the buttocks. Nor - although American divorce rates have historically been higher than those of Europe, perhaps owing to the type of woman likely to emigrate from Europe to America - is it coincidental that divorce rates spiraled as spanking declined.
watertiger
WT is really hung up on that xtian spanking site. I hardly can believe it's real, but she assures me it is.
I think there is an opportunity to deeply discredit The Republican Party in the eyes of most Americans between now and 2009. To be more precise, to allow their own wicked ways to utterly
discredit them.
Last night there was a guy on Hardball who talked about the expense of the war. He said it was ludicrous to say that the war would pay for itself.
He knew a lot about the supply of oil in Iraq and he said that it was ludicrous to think we'd make money getting it out of the ground.
He wouldn't let Tweetie interrupt him. Tweetie looked like he was about to cry.
gwb:drf
Is everyone brushing and flossing right now? (Looks at watch.)
gwb:drf
wt is a wonder; I see bits of Helene Hanff (sp?) and Dorothy Parker in her -- I hope she's happy!
And wt is related to (Sing Along with Mitch's) Mitch Miller, who inspired my affection for goatees!
steve - You just like Fawn Hall because of she stuffed documnents in her boots to smuggle them out of the White House.
gwb:drf
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Why are you making that sound negative?
wt is always happy.
It sounds like you live in a beautiful place, plantsman. What is the growing season like?
gwb:drf
Speaking of Dorothy Parker - Modo steals her shit all the time. If you read Parker's old New Yorker theater reviews and her short stories, you spot it right away.
gwb:drf
Do you want me to copy and past the NY Times OpEd page?
Just kidding.
gwb:drf
Jesus, guys read the thread that begins around 8:00 last night, it is fucking hysterical.
It's the greenest place you can imagine, between the conifers and broadleaf trees. The range of flowering plants that will grow happily here is stunning. Our growing season starts in earnest about now, and extends through about the first half of October most years. The grey and rain are a real mountain to climb each winter - and I almost don't make it - pining for sun so badly I am. But when the warm, clear days come, and the snow-capped Mt. Hood stands starkly in the blue, there's no place more lovely!
(Tomorrow kicks off the Nursery season here, and it's usually the biggest sales day of the year in a plant nursery. All those loved Mothers getting all those plants to care for all on one day!)
Christopher Walken's Op-Ed about hot dogs.
Don't mess with this guy...
http://www.geocities.com/
dmoefun...cle_walkin.html
On the NYT, if Atrios feels comfortable pasting up
the OpEds I say let him do it. I fear he's high-profile enough that action might be taken against him for copyright infringement, so I don't make that decision for him -- but I've thought about it.
The HaloBurp® hour approaches, oh dear!!!!
here's a xtian spanking story for ya:
Pastor faces new charges in paddling incident
ay 11, 2007, 8:01 PM CDT
An Elgin pastor charged with paddling a girl with a piece of wood last year will face two additional misdemeanor counts, authorities said Friday.
A Kane County judge approved another charge of battery against Rev. Daryl Bujak in incidents that led to his May 2006 arrest. He also was charged with failing to notify authorities of a sex crime.
Bujak, pastor of First Missionary Baptist Church, was initially charged with battery after authorities said he disciplined a 12-year-old girl with a piece of wood, causing welts and bruises. The girl's mother took her to the pastor for guidance because she did not believe her daughter's story that she had been abused.
An Ingleside man was later charged with sexually assaulting the girl.
The new charge accuses Bujak of "conduct of an insulting or provoking nature" because the spanking was psychologically damaging, Assistant State's Atty. Steve Sims said.
Wolcott wishes Mort Sahl a Happy Birthday and reminisces about The Gilmore Girls at his place:
http://www.vanityfair.com/politi...s/blogs/
wolcott
Plantsman - It sounds wonderfully lush.
I only mention the copy and paste thing because there are folks that copy and past the NY Times OpEd pages at 6:30 AM and then have a hissy fit when somebody else does it at 9:00 AM.
gwb:drf
Following one of the links from last night's thread, I ran into this.
What the fuck.
The last few days at about this time I have found myself wishing for something I'd never considered before: an extensive and gentle knee-massage , of all things!
Damnable HaloBurp!
morning, all.
haloscum won't let me on.
does ql's link being age restricted mean I'm too old for it? Too mature, too wise, too fuddy duddey?
ql, The Yahoo Adult Groups Link was a dead end, but I have an idea of what you're talking about.
Ruth, I'm appalled.
does ql's link being age restricted mean I'm too old for it? Too mature, too wise, too fuddy duddey?
Nope, it means your beautiful mind might be sullied by animalistic thoughts and/or images.
If NYT eds are behind a registration shield, so are WaPo - and WSJ and pro'ly others.
If you're registered, you can comment at their websites, why not at your own website?
I don't think prosecution would be easy.
Wolcott wishes Mort Sahl a Happy Birthday and reminisces about The Gilmore Girls at his place:
Mort Sahl was one of my heros back in the day. Alas, he went over to the Dark Side of the Force some years ago.
Gilmore Girls?
Lauren Grahame (the mom) could so have me if she played her cards right.
animals are good - why not animalistic?
My beautiful mind is thinking Yahoo should be an inappropriate purveyor of actual porn profits?
I was joking about the NYTimes OpEds. Joking.
"I copy and pasted it first, and now it's all over the blogs. Not fair! Nobody gave me any credit. Not one blogger."
gwb:drf
WSJ's are restricted and I care not enough to read them (I've been nauseated by Noonan's "Pleasure me Ronnie" fantasies before, thank you) to register and/or pay. WaPo's never have been -- but I'm no legal scholar -- I pay, to my chagrin, for Times Select, but I don't make decisions for Atrios, is all I'm sayin'.
Fucking shit. I pay for NYTimes Select so that I can copy and paste from it. Does anyone thank me? No. Never.
Plus I was up all night because there must be electronic mouse traps in the walls and the noise gave me a headache.
gwb:drf
I recognize and enjoy my animal instincts with certain other humans. I'll say no more.
On the subject of tv shows, one of my comments at correntewire that was on a finding about diminished tv viewing has collected a bunch of comments on 'their favs' from people who evidently finally found something they could comment on. it's funny.
Morning, all. Very disturbing local news-- someone is murdering gay men. In two separate incidents, a gay man has been killed and their bodies ditched in wooded areas. The cops are being pretty good about it, at least so far as I can see and so far as the local gay groups are saying, but it's very disturbing. There may be more bodies out there.
I'm assailing no one -- I pay for Times Select for personal use because I value Krugman and Rich that much, they add enough to my life to make it (almost) seem worth it.
of course, my 'puter has a malfunction so that I have to save from my internet to my office in order to cut and paste. it's too much trouble, so I don't. I'm told I need to download and use Firefox which will let me c&p from the internet again. Dunno, hear bad things about Firefox.
Oh, Moe, I'm sad to hear that. Such grisly things are not merely the realm of gay-haters, as we in the near-by to The Green River Killer and Vancouver, BC are sadly aware.
Of course, you could save the money and just go here.
"and the snow-capped Mt. Hood stands starkly in the blue, there's no place more lovely!"
All you folks with mountains say that.
Rats, I miss mountains.
electronic mouse traps get caught in the tinfoil hats?
good grief Moe, I tho't you were in an enlightened shining hill or something.
"Dunno, hear bad things about Firefox."
Such as?
I use a Mac, and normally surf in Safari; but I d/l'ed
the newest Firefox and have it for back-up. It's been bug and trouble free the few times I've used it.
"Dunno, hear bad things about Firefox."
musta been talkin to that dude bill gates
Pretty conservative area around here, Ruth. Well, socially conservative and economically progressive, hence the old "Progressive Conservative" party-- strong support for unions, AND Sunday closing laws, anti-gay sentiment, etc.
I have a tiny gripe about NeoOffice ( the free Mac OS X build of OpenOffice). There are not many Avery Mailing Label templates installed, and none of the ones I commonly use. Otherwise, it's great!
Speaking of mountains, just reading an editorial in Dallas Morning news about restoring strip mined areas (mountaintop removal is the going thing) by planting seedlings directly into the loose 'spoil' left over. Trees grow really quickly if you don't compact the soil. Nice.
I was out drinking last night, and learned that just ten years ago Nova Scotia still had a separate "drinking licence" that you had to apply for through the provincial liquor stores. It had your picture and age, and you needed it to buy booze in a bar or from the liquor stores. Back then, drivers licences didn't have pictures on them. This strikes me as a perfect example of inefficient government.
We just got legislative passage of anti-discrimination and gay Domestic Partnership laws here, and the fundies are revving up to try and challenge them with Initiatives. It never ends, this fight.
There must be a thousand comments here and it said O. I thought maybe I could come on with something like First or Frist or Worst DOJ ever or Bush sucks.
By the time I read what you all had to say, I forgot whatever it was I thought I needed to say. Another of life's little pitfalls.
Wasn't aware of NeoOffice.
Apparently, it’s not worth the paper it’s printed on:
Mary Cheney’s book sells for .07
EkCent, to tell the truth I only recall that some people here have said things about difficulties withFirefox, and when I got an offer of it from somewhere my son said he'd also heard bad things. I don't remember any specifics.
Morning y'all.
Jeevan (who does something with HaloScan) was by night-before-this and did something to smooth its performance. Yesterday AM, the comment counter was working, but HaloScan was asking for "cookies" again. Since I've been here today, the number has stood steady at (0) on ALL threads.
But I'd say that attitudes have changed big time around here. You don't hear anyone trying to overturn gay marriage, for example, outside a few nutty preachers who no one pays attention to.
Yeh, it says '0' comments to me too which means haloburp is getting very annoying.
NeoOffice is fully integrated workware, like the old AppleWorks. It's pretty cool.
Bigfoot risks extinction, says Canadian MP
OTTAWA (AFP) - Bigfoot, the legendary hairy man-like beast said to roam the wildernesses of North America, is not shy, merely so rare it risks extinction and should be protected as an endangered species.
So says Canadian MP Mike Lake who has called for Bigfoot to be protected under Canada's species at risk act, alongside Whooping Cranes, Blue Whales, and Red Mulberry trees.
"The debate over their (Bigfoot's) existence is moot in the circumstance of their tenuous hold on merely existing," reads a petition presented by Lake to parliament in March and due to be discussed next week.
"Therefore, the petitioners request the House of Commons to establish immediate, comprehensive legislation to affect immediate protection of Bigfoot," says the petition signed by almost 500 of Lake's constituents in Edmonton, Alberta.
A similar appeal has been made to the US Congress.
I generally switch back and forth between Firefox and Safari. I prefer Firefox, but every now again it freezes and I need to totally shut down and reboot.
I'm not surprised about the gay stalking. These asshats have mainstreamed gay bashing. I look to see more of it.
Bigfoot risks extinction, says Canadian MP
OTTAWA (AFP) - Bigfoot, the legendary hairy man-like beast said to roam the wildernesses of North America, is not shy, merely so rare it risks extinction and should be protected as an endangered species.
The famous 8mm home movie of Bigfoot?
Turns out it was a hoax done by the guy who did the makeup for the original Planet of the Apes movie.
Bummer...
It sounds Pollyanna-ish, I know; but for a free program that lets us communicate world-wide in real time, it's easy to take Haloscan for granted - and we do.
Moe, nutty preachers are considered oracles in the bible belt.
There must be a thousand comments here and it said O.
It's always been like that for me. I can never trust what the number of comments is beecause half the time it's wrong.
well that should bring out all the nutcases. WashJournal calling for viewer reactions to Giuliani's abortion stand.
Ruth
Well, everything has it's quirks. FireFox has had issues at times. But I use it exclusively here and on the job. The only time we dip into Internet Explorer is when a site specifically requires it and that usually means it is a web based application.
When I am using a Mac, I do have an issue with FireFox in scrolling with the scroller on the mouse or trackpad. For some reason it is never as smooth as when in use on a PC. Usually not a problem, but on comment threads, it can be annoying.
*yawn* G'morning all. What's new? Other than the fact that alternate Haloscan refreshes stop at the 1 AM posts, that is.
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Moe, no one paid attention to our nutty preachers either, until it was too late.
I'd be paying attention if I were you. You don't want our disease spreading north.
I thought only Larry Ellison was considered Oracle.
Morning, kids.
I had a student tell me yesterday I was going to hell. Nice way to end the semester.
There's a big church up on a hill in the suburbs east of here, and I gather it's pretty conservative. I've been thinking about dropping by to see what they're about.
Only about 20 percent of Canadians go to church, but the number is probably higher here. Still, I doubt this church is self-supporting-- it probably is funded in part by some outfit in the states.
I had a student tell me yesterday I was going to hell. Nice way to end the semester.
Tell him "I'm going to Hell, and you're going to flunk. Guess which one of us is going to face the consequences first?"
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plantsman, my computer at work hung up a couple of time yesterday, and I was livid, but it reminds me of what it was like to do legal work on a typewriter, I'll take our cranky computer any day.
Canada has significant Federal Legislation protecting the rights of gay people, does she not?
"I had a student tell me yesterday I was going to hell"
What brought that on?
If there is a hell and I'm not going, I'll be surprised.
University panel says student parody "harassed" blacks
BOSTON --A judicial panel at Tufts University on Thursday ruled that a conservative campus journal "harassed" blacks by publishing a Christmas carol parody called "O Come All Ye Black Folk" that many found racist.
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The parody of "O Come All Ye Faithful" calls black people "boisterous" and proclaims, "Born into the ghetto. O Jesus! We need you now to fill our racial quotas."
The lyrics also say, "No matter what your grades are, F's, D's or G's, give them all privileged status."
The school's Muslim Student Association filed a separate harassment claim in April after the magazine parodied their advertisements for Islamic Awareness Week with factoids about brutality in Muslim countries.
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He said the magazine would continue to publish, even if student government cuts off funding.
"We're interested in preserving our magazine on campus," he said. "The one, lone conservative voice we have."
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Yes please do continue to publish, you continue to make our point that the "conservative voice" is an intolerant, bigoted one. Better that you tell the world that than us.
i hqave long suspected that Hell would turn out to be like Dante's Divina Commedia - that is, the only interesting part is the Inferno. Purgatorio and Paradisio are boring, bland, and lack verve.
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"I had a student tell me yesterday I was going to hell"
What brought that on?
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You must have said something "librul."
What brought that on?
Ha, I realize now how out of context that sounded. But it was a paper on gay marriage, which, the student agreed, probably couldn't be banned according to the US Constitution. Nevertheless, since gay people choose their own path and are clearly possessed by Satan, it shouldn't be legalized either.
I pointed out that in academic argument (as we discussed in class in some detail), making an argument based on religion is ineffective rhetorically. I asked if there was some other way to make the argument, based on some other principle, which might convince someone who didn't believe in God.
He replied, "Yo can not believe in God if you want, but you'll pay for it later."
I wish I had thought of Cynicus's comeback, but I was more focused on getting his presentation done and getting him back to his seat, I'm afraid.
If the fundies get to heaven,they'll ruin that for everyone too.
One of the quirks of our climate is that the window for planting sweet basil and getting a good response is very small, typically about a month from now. Planted correctly, the little starts grow on unfazed into lush, fragrant plants that beg for 'maters and fresh mozzarella, but put 'em in too early or late, and they'll sulk and shrivel to death!
If there is a hell and I'm not going, I'll be surprised.
I'll buy you a lemonade when we meet up there.
Canada has significant Federal Legislation protecting the rights of gay people, does she not?
plantsman
Gay people are considered people.
They have full rights to everything every straight person has-- marriage and everything it implies, shared pensions, etc.
The only fights now are retroactive ones-- I forget the year that the Canadian Pension plan (sorta our Social Security) extended death payments to gay partners (early 90s, iirc), but it wasn't retroactive. There was a recent court ruling extending it backwards in time a bit, but it was pretty arbitrary. I think it's still working its way through the courts.
Otherwise, Harper made good on his promise of a parliamentary vote on gay marriage, and it passed with no problem (gay marriage was implemented through court orders, not through legislative votes). It's a dead issue. Gay people get married every day.
I was out drinking last night, and learned that just ten years ago Nova Scotia still had a separate "drinking licence" that you had to apply for through the provincial liquor stores. It had your picture and age, and you needed it to buy booze in a bar or from the liquor stores. Back then, drivers licences didn't have pictures on them. This strikes me as a perfect example of inefficient government.
Strike me as a perfect example of a government wanting to know just exactly who's drinking and how often and how much - for whatever reason.
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Moe I hate to tell you this but you have a pretty active conservative Christian movement up there. The pendulum hasn't swung their way yet, but when it does, watch out.
Conservative Christians are a pretty small % down here, but they got organized, they got their people elected, and now they have power.
You know, it didn't start with George Bush. They've been working on this for 25 years.
I had a student tell me yesterday I was going to hell
Cool. It must have not done very well in one of your classes.
(winds up the Waaaaaaaaaaaa-machine)
HICA!
Oooh! An unfinished beer from 8:30 last night!
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Goodbye sane triots -
I must go about attending to my errands and doing good works.
lurve,
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My daughter is really pissed that Washington went with civil unions instead of marriage.
god as threat, there's your fundie lore.
Litz, priceless. Lots of waking up to the fact that 'conservative' is much too nice a word for the practitioners of crooked politics, raciial and socioeconomic polarization and corruption.
Strike me as a perfect example of a government wanting to know just exactly who's drinking and how often and how much - for whatever reason.
Many years ago, I bought a piece of drug paraphernalia in WV and not only had to show ID, but also had to put my name and address on a list.
Moe, is gay marriage Canada's abortion? This old NYT story says so:
Gay marriage galvanizes Canada's religious right
Well, one of the joys of the parliamentary system (especially one that has a swing bloc of french separatists) is that it's highly unlikely, and probably impossible, for the wacko christers to make much progress.
Yeah, but that's the thing: Evengelicals peaked in power in 2000 and 2004, got exactly who and what they wanted -- and look how it turned out. Back to the Intelligent Designing Board, folks!
I'll buy you a lemonade when we meet up there.
Molly Ivors
that's probably because you and thers don't a Christian Discipline Relationship
But that's okay, I'll be right there waiting.
If the fundies get to heaven,they'll ruin that for everyone too.
Old Baptist joke: A group is taken on a tour of Heaven by Saint Pete. They see Catholics holding the perfect Mass, Jews celebrating in the true Temple, one smoking hot musical service by the AME. Then St. Peter says "Shhh, please tiptoe past this room." After they are safely past, someone asks the saint why the silence. "Oh, that's the Baptists. They think they're the only ones up here."
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Here, the cheapo gas station sells rolling papers, and only currency is exchanged.
that's probably because you and thers don't a Christian Discipline Relationship
Well, it's not really Christian-themed....
So nobody else is appalled that for certain adult sites on Yahoo one has to register.
"Oh, that's the Baptists. They think they're the only ones up here."
LOL
That would work for Church of Christ, too.
Heh, I was talking about this with a friend yesterday, and I said, "Shit, I was raised Catholic. We're pretty sure all the Lutherans are going to hell."
Heh. One of the sites WT linked to last night has been pulled.
from the Times article: One department official said an applicant was even asked, “Have you ever cheated on your wife?”
This was probably meant to be used as a perjury trap (only against Dems, of course)
So nobody else is appalled that for certain adult sites on Yahoo one has to register.
Yes, appalled enough not to register. Surprised, not so much.
On another matter, what do we know about hostas? I know they can take shade, but do they need lots and lots of organic material, or is well-drained soil enough?
We in the pro-cannabis movement don't use the word 'drug paraphernalia' (part of the effort to keep Americans scared of cannabis).
A smoking apparatus is acceptable.
Cannabis is a plant, not a drug.
Hell is no blood-glucose Test-Strips, AFAIC.
from the Times article: One department official said an applicant was even asked, “Have you ever cheated on your wife?”
Typical fundies. It's "When did you stop cheating on your wife?"
Get it right.
What kind of adult Yahoo sites does one register? And what sort of registry - a name, a soc.sec. number, your credit card info for billing purposes?
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We in the pro-cannabis movement don't use the word 'drug paraphernalia' (part of the effort to keep Americans scared of cannabis).
Apologies. And I do recognize the distinction. Still have the bong someplace, too.
And who shot Ol' Yeller? Jeevan!
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I think if Yahoo is your porn purveyor, you probably deserve what you get.
Evengelicals peaked in power in 2000 and 2004, got exactly who and what they wanted -- and look how it turned out.
Right, which horrid as it's been has pretty much scared the bejeeezus out of the country. "Christian" is no longer cool. I'm thinking they've "poisoned the brand" for at least a generation. I hope so. Now when someone comes forward and says they're a Christian and they want to influence politics, a crazed mob will surround him and put duct tape over his mouth.
Which isn't necessarily a good thing. Religious people used to be the leaders of progressive politics, with the labor movement, civil rights, anti-war movement, etc. Sometime in the 70s the political left divorced itself from the Christian left. The Christian left has been largely silent, until recently. It's not worked out very well for either side.
I think if Yahoo is your porn purveyor, you probably deserve what you get.
hey, Molly Ivins had a wonderful bit on TX sex toys being sold as educational devices. There you are Molly, all you educationers are going to hell.
Except their jesus was a rabbi, (teacher).
The biggest drawback to hostas I'm aware of is slugs or snails, which consider Hostas ambrosia . Higher amounts of organic matter will let the crowns develop more fully and rapidly, giving you larger plants sooner. Once their leaves are up and unfurled, slug damage is a bit less of a worry. The cool thing is there are zillions of varieties for differnt foliage color, texture, etc -- and great variation in overall size and scale.
Tommy Douglas, father of Canada's socialized medical insurance system and North America's first elected socialist, was a Baptist preacher.
His grandson tortures people on TV, but that's another matter.
"I pointed out that in academic argument (as we discussed in class in some detail), making an argument based on religion is ineffective rhetorically."
I think there is room for someone to effectively argue using faith and religion. The problem is they move to simply taking a "That's just the way it is" position. Which I consider lazy. If they were to actually take it on, they would end up not only winning the debate, but would prove god exists as well. 
I've gotta do the coffee thang. I only had two half-cups yesterdiddy (the only place nearby on campus was closed, and I got the last half-cup from the commencement breakfast before the caterers whisked all the goodies away).
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Litz, it's the religious left that's leading the effort to keep the Liebury off the SMU campus - especially the 'think tank' - on the grounds that it will associate SMu with the horrors of war crimes and torture.
Litz; Right, which horrid as it's been has pretty much scared the bejeeezus out of the country. "Christian" is no longer cool. I'm thinking they've "poisoned the brand" for at least a generation.
I think most people know a real Christian from a Fundie.
Next thing we need to do is lift the veil on this fake "Pro Life" bullshit. Reporters let these people get away with calling themselves "Pro Life" when most of them are pro death penalty, pro war and anti stem cell research.
We need to start calling them on this bullshit, loudly, every chance we get.
Now when someone comes forward and says they're a Christian and they want to influence politics, a crazed mob will surround him and put duct tape over his mouth.
Another great moment from the final presentations: Apparently, the First Amendment guarantees churches freedom from governmental regulations, but does not, and should not, guarantee government freedom from religious intervention.
Huh.
'S funny, plantsman, but susan was just fussing that she's going to have to do a bunch of transplanting, because the hostas were growing like weeds, crowding out everything else in her flowerbeds. Is that normal? Especially given that we have snails like nobody's business around here?
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Here's Jesus General's take on xtian discipline.
And okay, that's enough, I'll drop it now.
Some hosta breeders talk of their plants aving fragrant flowers. In my estimation, you want fragrance in part shade, get Oriental Lilies.
JP, every now and then I go cold turkey on coffee, but find I keep dropping off all the time.
I gotta go talk to this guy cutting down a tree next door. Be back in a bit.
Molly - it's only through the proper education of Americans, helping them to see the ways of the drug laws - all built around fear.
Now, with even more ways to clean hard earned $$$ from your wallet - from utilizing a God-given plant.
Cynicus, nope; you have happy Hostas, is all.
Thinning them out as they're just emerging is probably the most effective way.
Barndog: Molly - it's only through the proper education of Americans, helping them to see the ways of the drug laws - all built around fear.
Anyone else think it's weird that alcohol is legal but pot isn't?
I think there is room for someone to effectively argue using faith and religion.
I say if they can make a broader ethical argument, I'll consider it, but a faith-based argument must necessarily be based on the assumption that your reader already agrees with you on fundamental truths, thus making persuasion unnecessary.
It's about more and less effective rhetorical positions. It also (usually) reduces the number of wingnut Christian arguments, since they generally don't have a backup ethical argument. (Liberal Christians do, luckily.)
Here's Jesus General's take on xtian discipline.
I have honestly never heard of this before today.
I never saw this before... funny.
President Clinton's Last Days in Office
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y...h?
v=ywaWz56Ha4c
Good morning peeps.
Alcohol occurs naturally less frequently than cannabis and requires more processing, which makes it easier to control. Anyone can dry leaves, stuff em in a pipe, and toke up!
BD,
My students are convinced that pot is illegal because it replaces pharmaceuticals people have to pay for. It's all about money.
I'm not convinced they're mistaken in this.
Morning, rational people.
Love it that we have had a couple of weeks of constant rain, but the sloppy wet is rotting a flame-colored plant I have here, that last year died off without blooming because of the drought. Don't know what it is, but great huge deep green stripey leaves.
Ah, the gardens are Susan's. i provide stoop labor as directed, but if given my way, i'd leave the whole of the property untouched, to let Mom Nature deal with as she sees fit.
Susan is a lineal descendant of Daniel Boone (via the Calloways), and she can't see our acreage without wanting to tame the wilderness.
i do a lot more yardwork than i would if things were all my way.
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"Anyone else think it's weird that alcohol is legal but pot isn't?
Riesz Fischer"
In the past, I was never concerned about violence with someone doing weed (Unless they added something to the mix). When I have had to worry, the individuals were all boozed up.
Each has it's problems, but weed is demonized beyond it's real liabilities.
Ruth: JP, every now and then I go cold turkey on coffee, but find I keep dropping off all the time.
Well, this was forced... now that summer's here, it'll be more difficult, since the closest place (right next door to my building) is closed for the entire summer. They had a little cafeteria that did breakfast and lunch, and a convenience store, all in the basement of that building. Now, coffee has to come for the building on the other side, and they'll have limited hours through the summer. And no food, unless you wanna pay $2.50 for a bagel.
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Ruth, is there and eave the plant might be tucked under, to shield it from rain?
I was gardening last weekend and thought I had a localized sunburn, or possibly a bug bite, on my back. It really hurt, though, so I went to the doctor yesterday.
Fucking shingles.
Hi, Diane, jeez don't you realize them's Gitmo terraists, they don't get rights, they get whupped. Trying to give 'em justice is just deranged. So saith your gov't - at the homepage.
A good hosta site.
But it's more fun to ask plantsman.
My students are convinced that pot is illegal because it replaces pharmaceuticals people have to pay for
I still take my pharms - I just take less of the pain meds. I wonder where the issue is with that? Hell, they're the cheapest meds in the bunch.
Example: Tramadol, an addictive synthetic opiate antagonist - costs me (after BCBS) $35/per script. On the other hand - Dilaudid, a highly powerful narcotic - only runs $8.45/per script. If a prescription costs less than the assigned co-pay - you pay the original amount.
You make the call.
These people are just vile.
Shingles are bad business, for those who are susceptible; but I think new meds are in the pipeline, maybe?
"but a faith-based argument must necessarily be based on the assumption that your reader already agrees with you on fundamental truths,"
Exactly. This also follows along with how can a person who does not have a formal or recognized faith be moral?
Fucking shingles
Arrgh. Sorry to hear that, Molly.
Helps keep my mind less cob-webby, too!
It's not the direct rain plantsman, it's the sloppy wet in the foliage. I would have to replant it in a built-up bed to keep it from rotting right now. Not gonna do it.
JP, sounds like you need to get one of these little stands that sells snowcones and such to set up in the coffee business.
The best cat photo I can manage this morning. It's foggy, but looks like the sun may come out.
Turn me loose on those new laundry apparatuses!
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: o)
BD, opioids are cheap because their synthesis has been studied since the 19th century - there's not a lot of R&D or marketing expenses on them. Plus, for the opium/morphine derivatives, the source is inexpensive Third-World-grown opium poppies...which, for some strange reason, Afghanistan is turning out in bumper quantities right now.
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The colors of hosta leaves are just awesome: bright golden, deep or fresh green, dusty, folded blue, and any combo with yellow or white variegation or striping you can imagine!
Fucking shingles.
Molly Ivors
Oh, no!
Damn, that is one painful condition. I hope this is going to be a self-limiting episode.
As your lawyer, I recommend you have Thers take over all the household duties.
Shingles are bad business, for those who are susceptible; but I think new meds are in the pipeline, maybe?
Well, anyone over about 15 is susceptible, since all you need is to have had chicken pox at some point. The meds can speed recovery, but once you have them, you have them.
I'm pretty sure I've had them more than once, but the doc is skeptical.
Ruth: JP, sounds like you need to get one of these little stands that sells snowcones and such to set up in the coffee business.
I could probably make more than $20/hr., too! But I'm sure Vandy would never permit it.
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JP, sounds like you need to get one of these little stands that sells snowcones and such to set up in the coffee business
We went into a Starbuck's shop last week in Indianapolis on our journey. First time I have ever set foot inside one.
My God - who in their right mind would pay $5 for a cup of mud? I love their coffee, but for fucks sake - I can get a pound of the varieties I enjoy, for the price of 2 "grande" cups of black coffee (plus tax).
To me, that's assinine.
As your lawyer, I recommend you have Thers take over all the household duties.
I wish! Nah, his..... cleanliness standards are different from mine.
Something like 80 percent of the world has no access whatsoever to pain medicine, and yet we demonize the Afghan popply industry.
Arrggh, shingles! Much sympathy. My wife has had a session of those. Mercifully, a very brief one.
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I wish! Nah, his..... cleanliness standards are different from mine.
Molly Ivors
Never had chicken pox, a cold sore, or any herpes related-condition -- not wanting to tempt fate, mind you.
But I'm sure Vandy would never permit it.
So, if you utilize that computater at you home, I bet you could figure out the zoning fiasco, and set yourself.
Hey, if Starbucks can get $4-5/cup for good coffee, you should be able to do well at half the price.
And, sell tobacco. Fuckers like their cigs with their mud.
Mavis, Bitches!
You have GOT to get her new album, a collection of Civil Rights and Civil Rights-inspired songs.
Buy it for yo mamas, too.
Whaddayano, there's a direct correlation between Republicans and sunspots.
Afghan poppy production is demonized because the Afghani growers are too free market - they will sell resin to anyone who has money.
If their production was just the captive monopoly of any Big Pharma company, then their growing metric tonnes of opium poppies would be an innate good.
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Gots to make me a pot of Cawfee, right now!
Thanks for the good wishes, folks. It's more of an annoyance than anything else, no doubt brought on by end-of-the-semester stress.
To treat this, I'm going to go play with the rototiller and plant some hostas. I also need to think about my next Whiskey Fire post, about the girl in Ireland who's going to be allowed to get her abortion after all.
Have a great day!
Whaddayano, there's a direct correlation between Republicans and sunspots.
Moe Szyslak
So the solution is obvious - let's shoot all the Republicans into the sun.
We just clean differently. It's a philosophical thing, also a visual thing. We don't see the spaghetti stain on the wall. We just figure it's new texture.
On Firefox: Version 2.0.0.2 (AFAIK) had bugs and issues. The newer Version 2.0.0.3 is pretty clean.
While I suspect that one part of the high price of prescription meds is due to research and development costs, I also think 'marketing' is another huge part.
Maybe if PHARMA stopped with the tv and print ads for the latest replacement and quit passing the big bucks to doctors via "consultation fees" and conference gigs, profits could still be made without the steep prices.
Reminds me of a friend who made spaghetti sauce in my kitchen once, and then cleaned up the counter and stove, but left the spots on the ceiling and walls.
I played with the rototiller the other day. Big fun.
The big pharms ads have got to be bigger expenses than their research.
anyone know when gossling will get her day to snort?
I also think 'marketing' is another huge part.
How many thousands of Viagra, Cialis et al commercials did we see? Holy fuck!
The big pharms ads have got to be bigger expenses than their research.
Don't forget their bribes to the US government to prevent national health coverage.
Maybe if PHARMA stopped with the tv and print ads...
IIRC that provision allowing them to advertise is up for renewal this year. Consumer groups want it repealed, citing all of the abuses, misinformation, etc. that has resulted.
But good luck. Big PHARMA and big MEDIA are in cahoots on this one. I guarantee the big media giants will be lobbying hot and heavy to keep their cash cow ...
Farmers Branch vote today on anti-illeguls laws. The mayor made a statement against them (like making landlords liable if they rent to them illeguls) and his house was vandalized.
JP, sounds like you need to get one of these little stands that sells snowcones and such to set up in the coffee business
We went into a Starbuck's shop last week in Indianapolis on our journey. First time I have ever set foot inside one.
My God - who in their right mind would pay $5 for a cup of mud? I love their coffee, but for fucks sake - I can get a pound of the varieties I enjoy, for the price of 2 "grande" cups of black coffee (plus tax).
To me, that's assinine.
Barndog, certified alpha hippy | Homepage | 05.12.07 - 7:51 am |
We showed this Starbucks calculator to a couple of people at work, they were appalled at how much a 'special' coffee a day adds up.
http://www.hughchou.org/calc/coffee.cgi
Something like 80 percent of the world has no access whatsoever to pain medicine, and yet we demonize the Afghan popply industry.
I would suggest that there are two different subjects in the above.
Our family doctor told me that, marketing is a large problem with drugs.
Older people (and some younger ones) - see some new medication on TV, then come tell the Doc's that "they need this medication" - when they don't even have symptoms.
The power of persuasion strikes again.
The big pharms ads have got to be bigger expenses than their research.
Big Pharma is run by the same arse-headed, bottom-line-only Harvard MBAs as all other industries. So, yes, they prefer to spend on advertising, with immediately quantifiable effect, than on R&D that may or may not ever pay off.
Cynicu's Law # 30 - if you want to utterly remove the human capability to consider long-term effects, and reduce someone's mental world to 3 month lengths, send them to get a Masters of Business Administration degree.
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Ahhh... coffee. I'm feeeling human, already!
Gee, do I think I can work up a load... of laundry? I don't have a single clean thing to wear, other than socks and man-panties. How about that.
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Much of the drug R&D was payed for with government grants, so the whole "passing it on to the consumer" BS is a non-starter with me.
I have honestly never heard of this before today.
Molly Ivors
Read last night's thread around 8. WT and res had a field day. It was truly hysterical. Then it got kind of depressing.
PAID for not payed.
More coffee, please.
But good luck. Big PHARMA and big MEDIA are in cahoots on this one. I guarantee the big media giants will be lobbying hot and heavy to keep their cash cow ...
Litz, bamboo alarmist
Sadly, I have to agree with you, Litz. The fact that the cost of meds is one that strains not only the citizen's budget but also the Medicare budget doesn't seem to matter to anyone.
I don't like ultrasweet stuff, so Starbucks has no appeal. See the cups around everywhere tho. I notice them on the table at hearings so think there's a capitol hill niche nearby.
Something like 80 percent of the world has no access whatsoever to pain medicine, and yet we demonize the Afghan popply industry.
I would suggest that there are two different subjects in the above.
billy b -
Not at all. Lots of people have suggested that Afghanistan deal with the poppy issue just as Turkey has-- growing poppies is completely legal, so long as the farmers are registered with a UN program to turn the poppies into pain killers. The farmers are paid a high enough price to discourage selling the crops to illegal drug dealers, and poor people around the world are helped with pain issues. There's plenty of room to expand the program to Afghanistan.
Yes, and then you have all those sneaky ads, the "VNR's" with "Karen Ryan reporting" on some new drug or technique, broadcasting on local news stations, all paid for by Merck or Wyeth or whatever.
I saw one last week about a 10-minute nose job, I guess they use botox or injections of some kind. It was presented as this wonderful new non-surgical thing, get your nose fixed on your lunch hour, the wave of the future.
Whenever I see stuff like that I write the news station and ask if it was a VNR supplied by the pharmaceutical company and if so, don't they feel obligated to offer another side of the story, perhaps speak to a medical ethics person or whatever? I mean come on.
growing poppies is completely legal, so long as the farmers are registered with a UN program to turn the poppies into pain killers.
That makes sense.
My understanding (and I know little on this issue) was that most of the Afghanistan poppy crop ended up as heroin in the U.S. and Europe, not as third-world pain killers.
Litz -- What do you think of the shakeup at WKRN? I think Brittney's still a little a-skeert for her bloggin' job, there.
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DEMON KITTEH!
Now, that's a cat communicating with the Mother Ship if I ever saw one ...
I think that the effect of advertizing is wearing out, especially among the under 40's crew. Too many bad experiences. Like It's Grrrrrrrrrreat (forget your ttttttteeeeth).
Litz -- What do you think of the shakeup at WKRN? I think Brittney's still a little a-skeert for her bloggin' job, there.
I hadn't heard about it.
I don't pay attention to local media too much. It's sucks, always has, always will.
Not at all. Lots of people have suggested that Afghanistan deal with the poppy issue just as Turkey has-- growing poppies is completely legal, so long as the farmers are registered with a UN program to turn the poppies into pain killers. The farmers are paid a high enough price to discourage selling the crops to illegal drug dealers, and poor people around the world are helped with pain issues. There's plenty of room to expand the program to Afghanistan.
As i said with more snark at 7:57, the problem is that the Afghans are thinking free market, and selling to whoever brings money. If they were in a controlled/cartel/monopoly market, everyone would be fine with Afghan poppy production.
another in the series of "Why Worshipping Free Markets is a Fool's Religion"
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JP, my son's cat used to get under a box and run around 'playing turtle'. A stitch.
Litz: I don't pay attention to local media too much. It's sucks, always has, always will.
Well, I dunno that much, other than what Brittney's been able to discuss over at NiT (and I'm sure that's not the whole story, right?). Mike Sechrist, the GM, stepped down a couple of weeks ago, and then the guy who came up with the video journalist model followed suit a few days later.
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Am I the only one who has noticed that the yellow bar is gone?
so Starbucks has no appeal. See the cups around everywhere tho.
only in dumbfuckistan (aka america) can a paper cup signify some sort of 'class
i like the LaVazza coffee stands - they serve espresso in espresso cups and cappuccino in coffee cups
Not at all.
Whatever.
So you are recommending the use of heroin and opium as painkillers?
What goes unreported often is the heroin addiction problem in Iran, and how a bumper crop of poppy in Afghanistan fosters that.
Here is an article that gets into the Afghan poppy issue.
Litz, earlier discussion was that it was giving troubles that weren't worth the convenience.
Ruth: JP, my son's cat used to get under a box and run around 'playing turtle'. A stitch.
If L.E. could figure it out...
Right now, he's on a tear, chasing a mayfly. Or a mosquito hawk. One of them big, mosquito-lookin' bugs that ain't.
Anyway, cat toys are a waste of money. String, feathers and boxes -- those are what they enjoy most.
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Am I the only one who has noticed that the yellow bar is gone?
Litz,
It just drank a little bit too much last night.
I think it went out with Threadbot.
Expect it after lunch.
Goodling- "Rest in peas"
Most painkillers are opiate based, so yes, I'm suggesting using opium as painkillers. No doubt a bunch of middleman corporations will make a bunch of money on it, but that's better than a stupid unwinnable war and millions of people going without pain medicine.
Mike Sechrist, the GM, stepped down a couple of weeks ago ...
He's the one who brought "Path to 9/11" to ABC, no? Good riddance.
Mmm....warm brown elixir! Thank you, planet!
As i said with more snark at 7:57, the problem is that the Afghans are thinking free market, and selling to whoever brings money. If they were in a controlled/cartel/monopoly market, everyone would be fine with Afghan poppy production.
The problem is bringing said poppy production under contol and keeping it that way.
In the current environment in Afghanistan, I don't see that happening.
cat toys are people. And their shoes.
Litz: He's the one who brought "Path to 9/11" to ABC, no? Good riddance.
Huh? The local affiliate GM did this...?!
News 2 me!
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I have personally dealt with several of these youngsters appointed to positions in the administration. They are all the same, cultish, true believers who assume you are also a true believer until they are tasked to root out the infidels. I have been calling them the Hitler Youth for years because of this behavior. They are immature and inexperienced so they easy manipulated by the White House. We must rid our country of the mindset that says this is a perfectly reasonable way to operate. It's not.
Anyway, cat toys are a waste of money. String, feathers and boxes -- those are what they enjoy most.
i used to agree whole heartedly...but the 2 stray boy cats we got love the colored toy mice covered in some sort of fur or faux-fur...prior to them, i had thought just like you, but these 2 guys carry the mice around and bathe them.
only in dumbfuckistan (aka america) can a paper cup signify some sort of 'class
Here in Central Dumbfuckistan, a Starbucks cup signals you are part of the "liberal elite" and the really populist Dumbfucks are proud of their Dunkin' Donuts cups.
Talk about taking "brand identity" a bit too far. I mean, geez people. Get a fucking life. It's just coffee.
So you are recommending the use of heroin and opium as painkillers?
Unnecessary - the medical profession already does.
See, opium is refined into morphine. And heroin, in the body, breaks down into - morphine. Morphine is the oldest of the narcotic analgesics, and still one of the most effective and most used. Hospital pharmacies are extensively stocked with it. Neighborhood drugstores dispense it daily.
If you're wanting to trap someone with some sort of "Do you APPROVE of the use of OPIUM products as PAINKILLERS, you COMMIE!" bit, you're going to have to include the AMA in your attack...........
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You ever tried to harvest sap from a breadseed poppy pod? I have. If the Afghans can do that on a commercial scale, they can harness production.
Huh? The local affiliate GM did this...?!
News 2 me!
I may be remembering this wrong, but I thought it aired on WKRN right before the election, and Sechrist refused to pull it.
That doesn't sound familiar to you?
Here is another good article on the issue. Here's an interesting part of it:
Could opiates made from Afghan poppies make up the shortfall, if the INCB were to license growing there, as it does in France, India and Turkey? Undoubtedly. Meeting the global demand for pain medication has been estimated to require about double the current Afghan production. Maia Szalavitz, a senior fellow at Stats, a media watchdog group, has estimated the cost of buying the entire Afghan poppy crop at the current market price, set today by Afghan drug lords, as about $600-million — less than the $780-million the United States budgeted last year for eradication.
It's important to remember that buying poppies for legal use sends a different message to the Afghan people than destroying their livelihood to prevent illegal use. Legal traffic is, at once, more profitable for farmers, who need no longer buy protection. It is hugely more profitable in the long run, since it allows citizens to share in the benefits of a stable, law-based society — the very thing that we, our NATO allies, and the elected government of Afghanistan, are seeking to achieve.
Most painkillers are opiate based, so yes, I'm suggesting using opium as painkillers. No doubt a bunch of middleman corporations will make a bunch of money on it, but that's better than a stupid unwinnable war and millions of people going without pain medicine.
Let's see.
In the past 30 years, two of the most powerful entities in the history of the planet have been unable to control Afghanistan.
Given that fact, controlling the Afghan industry is not likely.
a senior fellow at Stats, a media watchdog group, has estimated the cost of buying the entire Afghan poppy crop at the current market price, set today by Afghan drug lords, as about $600-million — less than the $780-million the United States budgeted last year for eradication.
USA! USA!
LOL, but that is some funny shit!
Unnecessary - the medical profession already does.
That, I know. I'm playing devil's advocate here.
Oh hey I got a link on Nashville Is Talking!
Yay me!
Thanks, Brittney!
You see, farmers will opt into the program because they'll make more money.
Or maybe not, I dunno. We can argue about whether it'll work, sure. But certainly the two issues are related. And whatever is going on now is definitely not working.
Bayer Chemical, who brought the world Aspirin, also synthesized and trade-named Heroin.
You see, farmers will opt into the program because they'll make more money.
The farmers might do that if it weren't for the warlords that control Afghanistan.
Moe, the primary obstacle to such a tough-minded, realistic program like your buy-up is, imo, the hardcore resistance of the noble-minded idealists who want all less-than-praiseworthy things to just stop because said things are 'just wrong'. (And incidentally, because of the overlapping group that don't want any of THEIR money going to such - whether for noble idealism or simple love of their own money)
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Lessee, we're paying to wipe out a product that could be used legitimately - like marijuana?
FUCK!
BAGHDAD, May 12 (Reuters) - Five U.S. soldiers were killed and three others went missing after an attack south of Baghdad on Saturday, the U.S. military said.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/...k/
IBO243567.htm
Litz: I may be remembering this wrong, but I thought it aired on WKRN right before the election, and Sechrist refused to pull it.
That doesn't sound familiar to you?
No, but that wouldn't surprise me, at all... GMs often do exactly what the networks want done, programming-wise. I thought you were saying he was instrumental on a national level, somehow...
Besides, you see where that propaganda got 'em, right?
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So, you still saying the two issues aren't related?
Ah, I'm taking offense, when I probably shouldn't. Sorry, I'm going to go dig in the garden. See ya'all later.
Bayer Chemical, who brought the world Aspirin, also synthesized and trade-named Heroin.
We have an executive in the company that pronounces Bayer as BUY-er as opposed to the Anglicized BAY-er.
He 'corrected' me once and I told him to go listen to a TV commercial and see how they pronounced it.
He's an affected POS.
Bringing Afghani Opium into the legal pharmaceutical trade is so logical an idea it sings like a high pitched bell! People will try and out-think the logic of it, but it's truly elegant, and everyone would win!
Litz: Oh hey I got a link on Nashville Is Talking!
Yay me!
Oh, yeah -- I noticed that last night, before I went to bed at a ridiculously early hour.
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Lessee, we're paying to wipe out a product that could be used legitimately - like marijuana?
Yes. And, big time.
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Afghanistan controlling warlords are empowered by opium profits, and the public approval of resisting occupation forces (which are the anti-opium forces).
whether or not a buy-up of Afghan production would create an immediate paradise, it would seem to have a better chance of getting at the roots of the problem than human target occupation forces. But that's just silly me.
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Lessee, we're paying to wipe out a product that could be used legitimately - like marijuana?
It does seem counterproductive, no?
I just like fucking with Moe.
I think I'd better get some breakfast in me, so I'm off for a while.
While I'm gone, you might consider checking out the latest round of the Hide-The-Salami game the DOJ is playing in Gitmo cases.
He's an affected POS
You kill me, Bro.
Well, in Deutschland, your executive would be correct, of course -- and the province is called BUYER-N. But we're here.
You kill me, Bro.
Glad to be of service.
TPM:
And then there were ten
A former West Virginia federal prosecutor said Friday the White House fired him in 2005 in the middle of a corruption and vote-buying investigation but never told him why.
Karl K. "Kasey" Warner said he has "concerns" and sees parallels between himself and eight other ousted U.S. attorneys. Congress and an internal Justice Department agency are investigating whether those firings were politically motivated.
5 GIs Dead, 3 Missing After Iraq Attack
By Associated Press
Published May 12, 2007, 7:17 AM CDT
BAGHDAD -- An attack on a unit of U.S.-led forces patrolling outside the Iraqi capital before dawn left five soldiers dead and three missing, the military said.
The attack on the patrol of seven U.S. soldiers and an Iraqi interpreter soldier occurred near Mahmoudiya, in a Sunni insurgent stronghold about 20 miles south of Baghdad, the military said.
Troops were searching for the three missing soldiers, the military said.
What has a chance of being created is a viable economy with the development and infrastructure that brings.
Michael Moore is more brilliant at marketing than film-making it seems.
getting the other side to blink just before the release of a documentary is sheer brilliance (and I am pretty sure MM didn't REALLY try to get the administration to blink, but blink it did)
Well, in Deutschland, your executive would be correct, of course -- and the province is called BUYER-N. But we're here.
Of course. As I said, the exec is 'putting on airs', as we used to day.
Well, in Deutschland, your executive would be correct, of course -- and the province is called BUYER-N. But we're here.
While my buddy Jost was here, he told people he was from Cologne. When one German speaker asked him why he didn't say "Koln", Jost said "I'm speaking English, in America. That makes it Cologne."
[Apologies for lack of umlauts]
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"why can't liberal bloggers be more civil like Monica Goodling?"-Mark Haleprin
Germans, in my experience, enjoy "putting on airs."
Gets them into trouble, a lot.
Troops were searching for the three missing soldiers, the military said
Wouldn't you feel better about the fate of these three if the US hadn't established the precedent that it's ok to hold captives indefinitely, torture them, treat them as outside the law, and so forth?
C'mon, speak freely!
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This is cute, on WashJournal, rash of Republic calls saying "We're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore". Oh, no, there's no organized fundie group there.
and I am pretty sure MM didn't REALLY try to get the administration to blink
Akin to placing a red hot poker in bed, when Bush wasn't looking.
I hope Miss Goodling gets exactly what's coming to her.
A German couple who were friends of mine used to have their most difficult arguments in English, claiming it helped keep the emotional sting out of them.
How does thy garden grow, goddess?
I hope Miss Goodling gets exactly what's coming to her.
Trust Hecate to know the fiercest curse you can wish on someone!
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On German pronunciation, Vladimir Nabokov (in "Speak, Memory!") hated teaching Business English to Germans in the 1920s. "They could not be persuaded to stop rhyming business with dizziness." He disliked Germans in general.
You'd think that DC could do better.
portia, they're coming out of the woodwork, now, all the gov't empl's who wouldn't work their positions for the WH crooks.
portia, they're coming out of the woodwork, now, all the gov't empl's who wouldn't work their positions for the WH crooks.
Ruth
pass the popcorn!!!
the latinos in catholic schools here used to enjoy pronouncing 'sheets' in latino fashion. Got the nuns all flustered.
If ya need a dirty fucking hippy fix, here is the #4 song of 1974 , the year Nixon resigned. Dirty fuckin' hippies are teh kool.
racymind, bitchy brain
Thanks, Racymind. Loved Redbone---
When the "grand" Berlin was being built, the East Prussians brought in Parisians to help shape the city. They affected the architecture, softened the accent a bit ("jut" stands for "gut" in Berlin) and generally made it more pleasant.
There will be more cats today, I promise!
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Morning(again)
so has the piece of shit comment engine been fucking up again?
good morning, batzers...
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When the "grand" Berlin was being built, the East Prussians brought in Parisians to help shape the city. They affected the architecture, softened the accent a bit ("jut" stands for "gut" in Berlin) and generally made it more pleasant.
And in return, the Prussians lined the streets of Paris with trees, so that the German Army could march in the shade.
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Troops are 'going to be stranded over there without a way to get home'? where do you find people completely devoid of any sense to believe anything you say no matter how totally devoid of relation to reality? Oh, the call is from GA.
so has the piece of shit comment engine been fucking up again?
Surely, you jest.
One department official said an applicant was even asked, “Have you ever cheated on your wife?”
That rules out Pastor Ted, I guess.
Would see a "Preussen" bumper-sticker in Berlin sometimes. Always gave me the willies.
so has the piece of shit comment engine been fucking up again?
Surely, you jest.
Would that it were so.
He disliked Germans in general.
Space | 05.12.07 - 8:48 am
i like german women...(probably) my last true love, whom i met, won, and lost within two years back in the '90s, was an enormously smart, sensual, sexy woman named Lila, from stuttgart...
i really love making love in two languages...
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Hecate, in re your Poiret reviewing fashion columnist -
Today, the figures in the media regard being a 'journalist' as a low-status, paying-your-dues waystop towards becoming a pundit. That is, toward becoming famous-for-being-famous, and toward getting-paid-millions-for-being-someone-worth-
being-paid millions.
Given that, is it any surprise to find those stuck in the journamalist level trying to jumpstart the process with some making the story about themselves? After all, that's what the no-more-qualified than themselves pundit class does.
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Ruth, I think they are very much in reality. The problem is they don't give a shit when it comes to the prize--control of the fields. Not nice folks here.
I'm having problems with the humanistic Hilton Hotel Family ad campaign versus dear little Paris Hilton -- but maybe it's just me.
Go, WGG!
French kiss, body English, then a little German speaking for the quiet times.......
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My students are convinced that pot is illegal because it replaces pharmaceuticals people have to pay for. It's all about money.
Alcohol and tobacco, which are addictive and cause numerous deaths, (especially tobacco), are readily available at my local 7-11. You really have to wonder...
Well, here's a big fuckin' surprise:
Between 100,000 and 300,000 barrels a day of Iraq’s declared oil production over the past four years is unaccounted for and could have been siphoned off through corruption or smuggling, according to a draft American government report.
Using an average of $50 a barrel, the report said the discrepancy was valued at $5 million to $15 million daily.
The report does not give a final conclusion on what happened to the missing fraction of the roughly two million barrels pumped by Iraq each day, but the findings are sure to reinforce longstanding suspicions that smugglers, insurgents and corrupt officials control significant parts of the country’s oil industry.
The report also covered alternative explanations for the billions of dollars worth of discrepancies, including the possibility that Iraq has been consistently overstating its oil production.
Iraq and the State Department, which reports the numbers, have been under relentless pressure to show tangible progress in Iraq by raising production levels, which have languished well below the United States goal of three million barrels a day. Virtually the entire economy of Iraq is dependent on oil revenues.
The draft report, expected to be released within the next week, was prepared by the United States Government Accountability Office with the help of government energy analysts, and was provided to The New York Times by a separate government office that received a review copy. The accountability office declined to provide a copy or to discuss the draft.
Paul Anderson, a spokesman for the office, said only that “we don’t discuss draft reports.”
People, in my experience, enjoy "putting on airs."
Gets them into trouble, a lot.
plantsman
FTFY
"you have a monica problem"
let that be the epitaph of this administration.
poetic justice.
PW, if the charges they're making are too farfetched for anyone else to believe them, what's the point? And how does it work that being totally rabid would get the brass ring?
One department official said an applicant was even asked, “Have you ever cheated on your wife?”
Was she making an offer?
Between 100,000 and 300,000 barrels a day of Iraq’s declared oil production over the past four years is unaccounted for and could have been siphoned off through corruption or smuggling, according to a draft American government report.
Ami the only one who wonders if this was covered in Dick Cheney's 2001 closed-door energy meeting?
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Bill Moyers last night on Regent University: clips of Mitt Romney pandering to this growing base of Monicas ready to create an all-republican world.
Monica boss Gonzales must be fired, and swiftly, as this travesty happened on his watch. Using party as a basis for DOD hiring is illegal. Its not a defense that Gonzo delegated to her and Sampson.
On his watch.
One department official said an applicant was even asked, “Have you ever cheated on your wife?”
To ask that, she would have had to ask if the guy was married. Which is illegal. Any question related to marital status would be off-limits.
And this dumb bitch worked at DOJ? I'm sorry she was granted immunity - she deserves to be punished by the system of justice she tried to destroy.
Cynicus, I doubt Darth let the oil execs in on his plans, actually. More likely, he let them know that prosecution for their crimes was a thing of the past.
I hope Miss Goodling gets exactly what's coming to her.
she should be sent to the Hague for the whole "structured handbag w/Ralph Lauren t-shirt, flip flops and jeans" crime.
Good morning.
I'm sitting here reading comments, and lo and behold, a fox just showed up on my back porch. I know she has six cubs somewhere out in the back woods because my neighbor caught them on film the other day.
Luckily, the dogs are inside and unaware.
On his watch.
el, silver | 05.12.07 - 9:05 am
nagahopun, brudda...
gonzales is more useful to the regime as a distraction than as a martyr...
they don't need martyrs...they need distractions...
also, pretty soon you'll start to hear from Rove and Meirs that they are unable to comment on questions about their propriety in office because of an 'on-going' investigation...
nothing is gonna change one fucking iota before Jan 20, 09, and by then it will already be too late...
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more than 140 graduates of Regency U's 'law school' are employed by the Bushevik regime...
there's no fucking way that we're gonne get all of 'em out of govt before 2040, when they fucking retire...
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Sheets.
Poor Monica.
she'll never work in this town again.
Until she's hired by K Street.
threadsplosion
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mer,
Sometimes I hate being me: aren't baby foxes called, "kits?"
Hecate,
The entire concept of a "Fashion writer" is bogus IMHO so being an ass . . . .
The monica problem is a Dem problem.
I see how Albert use the little 31 something stupid lawyer to ask the kind of question he knew better than to ask.
She was Albert's gopher. I wonder if Monica will ever find a decent job in legal realm again, gosh, I hope not. Dems shouldn't be offer that her anything. Just proscute and go. But now we know WHY she wanted to plead the fifth.
This why religion in government should be taboo, because religion becames anything, takes on any shape, becames tool to demonize any individual.
Bush and Cheney should be impeached now, and the clean up operation will be immense to put things to right. I have to wonder if the GOP had some kind of death wish, cause I personally, WILL NEVER, EVER vote for a Republican politican again. NOT EVER.
I think they offered immunity to the wrong person here. All they are going to do is prove that Gonzales was incompetent and farmed out his responsibilites, which not a criminal offense. The real criminal now has immunity, as will others from that office.
plantsman: A German couple who were friends of mine used to have their most difficult arguments in English, claiming it helped keep the emotional sting out of them.
I can see that; when I speak German, it's an intellectual exercise, even if I'm arguing or upset about something. It's easier to keep my emotions under control, because I'm putting so much energy into making the words come out right, and I'm more likely to get frustrated at the language than at the person I'm arguing with. Having their difficult arguments in their second language probably helped keep things on a more rational level.
My boyfriend is German, but I know him as an English speaker. It's almost like talking to a different person when we (attempt to) speak German, or I hear him talking to other Germans.
Elections do have consequences.
So who's sorry now, Monica? Kinda put a short end to your career with the federal government, heh heh heh! Maybe prayer would help. Ha!
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