I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Hey
ho
His real name is Raymond Luxury Yacht but, of course, it's pronounced Throatwarbler Mangrove.
His real name is Raymond Luxury Yacht but, of course, it's pronounced Throatwarbler Mangrove.
Stop it! Stop it! Too silly!
So, you're saying that Gannon's credentials should be under his husband's name?
Let's Go!
Does that mean he took his wife's name?
Or is he gay and took his new husbands name?
I'm confused.
"Jeff Gannon" sounds like a porn name, doesn't it? At least a soap opera character.
Word on the street is his real name is Adrian Wapcaplet.
markC- extra snarky!
Whatta ya think? Ya think someone who is Obsessed with the Gaggle could ignore Jeff Gannon?
I think not.
Holden, you smart, smart whore.
I just spoke with Michael Hill, staffer to Cantwell.,
1.He says that Cantwell really believes the following:
"I vote for Dr. Rice because I appreciate her diverse professional
background as a Professor at Stanford University specializing in Russian
affairs, her experience as National Security Advisor, and her
demonstrated understanding of world affairs and diplomacy. "
When I stated that her failure in predicting/recognizing the Soviet breakup shows how incompetent she is he stated that's only an opinion.
He also said that he could care less what bloggers did regarding this issue.
Folks, I'm copying this to other threads.
I'm declaring WAR on Cantwell, will y'all join me?
Call that little asshat staffer who could care less about bloggers/constituients and give him a tase of the blogosphere.
We can't afford to have assholes like this on "our" side.
Call: Michael Hill
717 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
202-224-3441
202-228-0514 - FAX
Time for smackdown!
You mean from the show "Pink Lady & Jeff"?
We're talk'n bout Pink Lady?
But Pink Lady was two ladies...right?
I'm gonna go to sleep now.
Huh? My Babelfish broke. Can anyone translate what Atrios wrote?
Holden, you smart, smart whore.
chica toxica
Well, I'm no Attaturk but I have my moments.
Holden, I love what you do with those gaggles. 
Some days Attaturk isn't Attaturk, and some days Gannon isn't a bottom.
I don't get it? Is Gannon gay, and took his gay lovers surname?
perhaps you're more a partisan whore, holden. in the best of ways, of course.
Re: "Jeff Gannon" (or whatever his real name is), how do asshats who ask President Asshat "questions" like "How can you hope to work with Democrats who are divorced from reality as evidenced by [insert lies I heard from Rush Limbaugh today]" get White House credentials as actual reporters in the first place?
Here we go
Pink Lady & Gannon?
Of course, Attaturk is still trying to turn Turkey to the West. So for that I forgive him the whoring.
Gannon...well...he's still feeling around for his manhood.
Some days Attaturk isn't Attaturk, and some days Gannon isn't a bottom.
chica toxica | Email | Homepage | 01.28.05 - 5:35 pm | #
and some days, this place is a real hoot- thanks CT.
nite, all. everyone have a terrific weekend.
Maybe I'm Friday-weary or just thick, but this doesn't seem that strange unless I'm missing something huge. Is Jeff Gannon is his legal name, then that's his credentials. If that's not his name and he's a spy undercover, then he's a crappy spy for getting his cover blown.
Honestly, I need a little more for my interest to be piqued.
even though married female reporters, who use their maiden name professionally, are given credentials with their married name and aren't allowed to be credentialed under their maiden names
Goddamn it, Robert M. Jeffers! I want my timeshare in bedlam, and I want it now! Give!
How odd. Why do women's credentials have to be in their married names? I understand they have to include it in the security background check they all get, but shouldn't the credentials be under the name everyone knows them by?
Oops, sorry. I was using logic.
Here's the big question. What's his real name?
oh, I know I closed that tag.
Oh, sorry, eyes skipped over the word "pseudonym".
Jesus told Dubya He didn't want married women using their maiden names, since they are their husbands' property now. Jesus hasn't spoken to Dubya about "Gannon," so his fake name is OK.
I get the post. The rules are different for us womenfolk. If we are lucky enough to be married we should honor the husband's name. Or something like that.
From
Mrs. Typhoon
'n' I guess the other question's, "What proportion of the gaggle will said asshats have to comprise before actual reporters refuse to participate as extras in the taping of White House promotional videos?"
Regardless of the name the twit uses, he's still cheneying Duck Pit fodder.
Yeah, I bet this is a smack down of women, rather than a quid-pro-quo for Gannon's scabby knees.
I got it. Jeff is married to officer Bill Gannon from the old Dragnet TV movie. Back then Bill's "partner" was Sgt. Friday.
Hey, there's this guy named Clark Kent who shows up at the gaggle... he's from the Metropolis Daily Planet, but I swear I've seen him somewhere else...
Oh, I get now...
Wow. "Special treatment" for a professional pseudonymph.
Sexy...in a fake sort of way.
does Lou Grant come in here somewhere?
That's so unfair because the Moscow Bugle's Kitanya Irenya Tantanya Karenska Alisoff couldn't by her pseudonym, Catwoman.
Quoi,
You're on FIRE!
Bill Gannon and "His Girl Friday."
Perhaps it's to make it harder to trace the taxpayer-funded checks made out to his real name.
Harold Ickes just endorsed Howard Dean.
Hey, I hear this guy has some weird issues in his personal life.
That's so unfair because the Moscow Bugle's Kitanya Irenya Tantanya Karenska Alisoff couldn't by her pseudonym, Catwoman.
NTodd
jeebus, NTodd, you are a font of interesting information about, er, interesting women.
very interesting.
Yoshimi where did you see that please?
They figure if he were referred to as "Mr. Rove", that would only lead to confusion.
Screw Jeff "Loose" Gannon
Suck the dick, get the press kit. Pay to play etc, talon news having credentials is like giving credentials to a geocities site
Cantwell is already on my shitlist for voting for the Iraq war powers.
Prior to the vote, I sent her an email about it with links to several newspaper articles (not editorial opinions) showing the weak case for WMD's (yes, the info was publicly available before the war), and got a detailed canned response why she decided to believe the BS from the Administration.
Are there any polititians who were former CEOs who are not total whores?
Waiting: here you go on Ickes endorsing Dean link:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?
tmpl=...mocrats_chair_3
another dick, another dollar
Pink Lady and Jeff! Ha! What dirt did that Jeff Altman putz have on some Hollywood exec? Goddamn was he not funny!
Jeff Gannon is a graduate of the Leadership Institute's Broadcast Journalism School. You pay $50 for a two-day seminar, meals on Saturday and Sunday. Plus free books!
Money quote from Yahoo piece on Ickes' endorsement of Dean:
While Ickes would not comment on the Clintons' preferences, he is a close ally and would not be endorsing Dean against their strong objections.
If you have a minute, go check out the Independent. Several very good articles today:
Is the world safer now?
Why hasn't Blair resigned yet?
Bush's arguments for war have fallen apart
does leslie blitzer have white house credentials?
I disagree with anyone's getting this kind of preferential treatment as well. Still, what's the source on this use of a fake name? Link, please?
If the source is accurate, the question now is, what is his real name? Surely we have some intrepid people out there who can find out...
jeebus, NTodd, you are a font of interesting information about, er, interesting women.
Actually, I just watch a lot of shitty movies, but thanks!
Cantwell's solid, lay off.
IOKIYAR
Handmaiden's Tale anyone?
Um, and Gannon needs a pseudonym *why*?
And I love Holden's gaggle excerpts where Gannon's questions are all of the "So isn't it true that the administration has been absolutely right about everything all along, and everyone in it is positively brilliant, and everyone who criticizes them should just go straight to hell?" variety.
Thx CDE.
I'm declaring WAR on Cantwell the DINO.
All I need are 1500 validated WA voter signatures and I can file to run for Senate in 2006.
Surfdork for Senate?
Of course I'll have to give my real name.
So, how do I deal with my past?
Which includes a DUI?
I'm thinking if/when I run I'll need to post ALL of my transgressions and ask forgivness.
After all we have a prez with a DUI etc, why not ME?
I originally read that as "marred female reporters". Thought for a moment the story was going to be a lot more interesting..
I received a mass-mailing letter from Walter Cronkite today on behalf of a group called the Interfaith Alliance. In this very interesting letter, he writes:
"When I anchored the evening news, I kept my opinions to myself. But now more than ever I feel I must speak out.
That's because I am deeply disturbed by the dangerous and growing influence of people like Pat Roberston and Jerry Falwell on our nation's political leaders.
Like you, I understand that freedom of speech is a founding principle of our nation, and I respect people with the courage to speek their minds.
As a concerned person of faith, however, I HAVE WATCHED WITH INCREASING ALARM AS THE CHRISTIAN COALITION AND OTHER RELIGIOUS GROUPS MANIPULATE RELIGION to further their intolerant political agendas [in the original the caps part was underlined]
snip...
.. they have shrewdly twisted the trational healing role of religion into an intolearant political platform."
Mr. Cronkite then asks me to give money to this group. They don't include Ba'al worshipers as part of their alliance, which is perhaps why they are new to Ba'al, but Ba'al is a forgiving deity and wishes nothing but good things for Mr. Cronkite, who he remembers from childhood (not my new childhood here in the US, my earlier childhood back in ancient Canaan).
Anybody heard of this group? Are they on the up and up?
Mr. Cronkite finished with a nice postscript in which he reiterates the the Religious Right's influence over America's politicans has gone too far.
talon has gotten les kinsolving much wider exposure in his old age though. he used to just be a local baltimore broadcasting curiosity. maybe there is hope for dr. bob and zoh hieronymus.
OK eek, if you're not a troll please enlighten as why Cantwell is "solid"?
I KNOW she is SOLID when it comes to backing corporate interests, is that what you mean?
When we learn Jeffy's real name, it'll either be the same last name as some Rightwing dick we all know and love (Jeff Savage?), or else something like Ferdinand Throckmorton Spooge III. Or Buffy.
Surfdork for Senate?
Of course I'll have to give my real name.
Not if you ran as a Republican. Only Democrats have to follow the rules for little people.
Reg. record:
Domain name: JEFFGANNON.COM
Administrative Contact:
Daniels, J. bedrockcorp@aol.com
4001 Kennett Pike
Wilmington, DE 19807
US
202-547-8825
That 202 number belongs to:
Bill Turnley - (202) 547-8825 - 616 E Capitol St NE, Washington, DC 20003
goonnon's bio says:
"Jeff lives on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC and covers the White House for Talon News."
Is jerky jeff really bonehead bill?
NTodd,
You watch bad movies.
You know what to do.
Ba'al craves the pleasing aroma!
I'm serious, I should run. I'm a GREAT public speaker and shit stirrer.
You watch bad movies.
You know what to do.
I'm on it, my lord Ba'al. Right after I get done watching this movie...
Ba'al- aha! another characteristic on that 14 signs of a fascist country.
What's his real name?
Engelbert Slapdyback
surfdork - Just be sure to note that your DUI was just a "mistake of youth" and that since then you've accepted Jeebus as your personal lord and savior.
i'd vote for you if i lived out there surfdork. i will never vote for either of my democratic senators again.
OT: Kos has a horrifically disturbing diary up with a link to a website featuring photos by US soldiers that shows, among other things, US troops in Iraq desecrating corpses, flinging dead bodies around, etc. etc. Mind bogglingly disturbing (and equally graphic, so be forewarned), and flat out astounding that with all that has happened they would still post this crap. Photos also feature "witty" captions beneath the images with things like "10 points fo [sic] every punjab you hit" beneath the photo of a bloody tank, etc. (Punjab? In Iraq? WTF?)
Freedom on the march, indeed.
U.S. troops desecrating the dead
It starts off pretty tame; gets really bad around page 50 or so. But, I'm sure it's just an isolated case or something.
Completely OT, but did anyone else catch the re-run of Robotic Ghost of Christmas Past on Aqua Teen Hunger Force the other night? I'm still laughing my ass off every time I think about it - and it's not the first time I've seen it.
Dave J. - Undoubtedly, just a few bad apples, even if posted with it is the directive from the Pentagon to desecrate corpses, with Rumsfeld's signature on it.
The Interfaith Alliance is a reputable group. If you do have concerns about issues of keeping church and state separate and feel like a contribution would be appreciated, then by all means contribute. Jimmy Carter's Presidential Foundation (I think it's the Carter Foundation, IIRC) also works on matters regarding church/state separation, among others. So does the ACLU. Just depends on where you want to send your monetary support.
When we learn Jeffy's real name, it'll either be the same last name as some Rightwing dick we all know and love (Jeff Savage?),
Jeff Wiener?
Ba'al:
A smoldering offering...
no boobies, tho...
Re: "Jeff Gannon" (or whatever his real name is), how do asshats who ask President Asshat "questions" like "How can you hope to work with Democrats who are divorced from reality as evidenced by [insert lies I heard from Rush Limbaugh today]" get White House credentials as actual reporters in the first place?
With this White House, the amazing thing is that anyone else gets White House press credentials.
i'd vote for you if i lived out there surfdork. i will never vote for either of my democratic senators again.
Olaf glad and big
Olaf, you just don't get it, do you?
Except in the capacity that you still amuse us, YOU NO LONGER EXIST.
Vote or don't vote, you no longer matter.
Jeff's real name is Dirk Diggler.
Jennifer,
I love Aqua Teen Hunger Force but my wife can't stand it so I haven't seen it in awhile.
I love Shake. He's the lovable Republican (weasle) of the group.
kall - naw, more like Chest Rockwell.
Olaf, you just don't get it, do you?
Except in the capacity that you still amuse us, YOU NO LONGER EXIST.
Vote or don't vote, you no longer matter.
GOP
Yep, that's just about what I've been saying...
Yoshimi - I think I gotta go with Carl as my favorite ATHF character. His most memorable line from the episode I mentioned:
"Yeah, uh, I know it's been a while and all, but there's no way I'm gettin' humped by a giant red gorilla in space."
Some days Attaturk isn't Attaturk
Man, you're like blowing my mind!
I have no idea what Jeff Gannon's real name is but I guess his initials are CIA or NSA.
Great Ba'al,
The Interfaith Alliance emits a pleasing aroma, IMHO. I joined up and appreciated their regular emails during election season calling attention to those intent on blurring the distinction between church and state, as well as those standing up for the principle.
Their current president is a Southern Baptist and issues pithy quotes at opportune occasions that must chap the fannies of the Radical Right...
Some days Attaturk isn't Attaturk
No disrespect meant, you know!
OT and shamelessly blogwhoring:
Georgia State Don't Know Sheep Shit From Wild Honey When It Comes To Science. Rep. Ben Bridges (R-Cleveland (yes, there's a Cleveland, Georgia)) has issued legislation that would require teachers to include "facts" for generally accepted scientific theories - like, oh, I don't know, maybe evolution - and include alternate ideas for said theories - like, maybe, creationism or intelligent design, perhaps. The Honorable Gentleman says teachers are teaching "evolution" as a "fact" and "not a theory", which isn't the same thing, and it confuses him. Bless his heart.
He's also said they've been doing it since he was a school boy, which would've been in the mid '50s and I know he's lying through his teeth on that one.
Some days Attaturk isn't Attaturk
No disrespect meant, you know!
chica toxica
Oh, none taken.
i think jeff's real name is Karen Ryan
or at least it has the same derivation
i'd vote for you if i lived out there surfdork. i will never vote for either of my democratic senators again.
If you want to run in CA, I'd still have to vote for Boxer, but you're more than welcome to come and run Feinstein out of town! Her lauding of Condi Rice was the last straw.
BTW, surfdork, I posted those candid nudibranch sex pics you were begging for last week.
Jeff Wiener?
cmdicely
Um...ah, actually, that's what I meant. Brainfart, I guess.
Olaf, you just don't get it, do you?
Except in the capacity that you still amuse us, YOU NO LONGER EXIST.
You've been reading too many comic books, pal.
Where's our regular poster WH'ho? Seems like (s)he could perhaps provide more info on this issue, no?
I've missed you, Ba'al, and I couldn't find you in Rome...
Except in the capacity that you still amuse us, YOU NO LONGER EXIST.
I think, therefor I am. Descartes said that. So fuck off. I said that.
Thanks Philatles.
I would NEVER run against the likes of Boxer nor do anything to hurt her politically.
Cantwelll OTOH is #1 on my shit list.
All I need is 1500 signatures to get by the filing fee.
I would LOVE to mess up her political career. She is a corporate shill parading in Demo feathers.
I get on the ballot I can raise hell.
Problem is it will help the rethugs unless I succeed in derailing Cantwell's campaign (dreamin' eh?)
Then again , what's the difference?
Those photos are HOT invertibrate action!
NSFW
Backslider Johnson is right!
i can and only humbly add-
...and die shitbag
(From the lower thread.)
Having grown up with television doing actual news specials, it saddens me to see how far down the rabbit hole our mess media has fallen. If, indeed, they have fallen. It looks more like they rushed headlong into the place following the White Rabbit of Corporatism: but I am only a citizen, so what do I know? In an effort to let the dorks try to redeem themselves, I am going to give them a list of documentary subjects worthy of spending some of their shekels investigating:
1. Election theft. Concentrations in both Florida and Ohio. What exactly is going on in these states? We are receiving mixed messages and the truth is probably available.
2. What connection does Dick Cheney have to Halliburton and KBR and the rest? What schemes have been hatched within the unholy allegiance of government and nefarious businesses?
3. What is the truth about right wing pundits being paid by the White House under the guise of consulting fees? Again, for a decent news organization this should be relatively easy to investigate.
4.How about a personality profile of the Rush man? Three marriages, drug addiction, and constant lies and half-truths are worthy of being investigated.
5. How safe is America’s food supply? We hear rumors about feed additives such as blood, antibiotics, and other questionable substances. What is the truth?
6. Why are American corporations continuing to sell pesticides, drugs, and other banned subjects in third world countries?
7. How questionable are the ethics of the SCOTUS? Between Clarence Thomas’s gifts and the favors delivered to Scalia, there seems to be plenty to investigate.
8. How about an accurate assessment of what exactly is happening in Iraq? While bloggers and frequenters of the web have Riverbend and Juan Cole to read: the rest of the world is left with Pollyanna reportage. If the situation is good, let us see. If the situation is as bad as we suspect: we need to know that as well.
9. The nexus of fundamental religion and politics needs to be thoroughly investigated. If churches are actively pursuing a political agenda, why are they receiving tax exempt status reserved for non-political entities?
10. Why are senior analysts abandoning the CIA and other governmental intelligence organizations? What are their reasons.? America would be better served by someone giving us some straight information.
11? Well, why isn’t the news media investigating itself for the death and destruction caused by an insane war that they actively encouraged? (I really do not expect them to act on this one.)
In Thailand environmentalist monks ordain trees so villagers won't cut them down, but they won't ordain women.
I just like to think it's nice to be living in such a quaint, medieval era. Most of my life I thought the bomb had changed everything, that science had enlightened and sobered the world for good or ill, but no, we're just as wacky and full of delightfully absurd superstitions as ever! woohoo! no intellectual or moral standards, just lots of SUVs, corporate perks, sexism and torture! And all in the name of JESUS! what's not to like?
Backslider Johnson is right!
Thank you, man. (or does he say "ma'am", I never can tell)
i can and only humbly add-
...and die shitbag
focus | Email | Homepage | 01.28.05 - 6:52 pm | #
Being of the charitable sort, I really can't agree with that. More like "fuck off, smoke more pot, listen to The Faces and get the fuck over yourself". Or there along those lines somewhere.
Wondering if "I fuck off, therefore I am" would be a valid philosophical statement.
Focus Johnson is right about Backslider Johnson being right...
Dave J.
Those photos were horrific! The corpse desecration starts at #49 and goes to at least #53. I couldn't look any further. Too afraid of having nightmares.
What the fuck is wrong with this country that our soldiers think it's funny to make jokes about dismembered bodies? These bodies and the body parts strewn about the bloody sand are funny? Because they belonged to insurgents?
These ARE PEOPLE! Fer chrissakes! Would they have done that to a white enemy?
A soldier's job is to kill. Yeah. But is it his or her job also to take pictures of dismembered heads, arms and legs, put comical captions under the photos and then FUCKING PUBLISH THEM ON THE INTERNET????
We are a degenerate country.
Thank you Mr. Bush. May you and your neocon monsters rot somewhere. Somewhere.
"problem is it will help the rethugs if i wind up derailing her campaign."
-surfdork
truth is helps the rethugs if democrats like the ones we have keep getting re-elected.
Noise, noise, noise...smokin' weed, smokin' weed, doin' coke, drinkin' beer. My good man its time to kick back, drink some beer and smoke some weed.
from a quick whois search...
Whois info for, jeffgannon.com:
Registrant:
Bedrock Corp
4001 Kennett Pike
Wilmington, DE 19807
US
Domain name: JEFFGANNON.COM
Administrative Contact:
Daniels, J. bedrockcorp@aol.com
4001 Kennett Pike
Wilmington, DE 19807
US
202-547-8825
Technical Contact:
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thanks krsazj
But is it his or her job also to take pictures of dismembered heads, arms and legs, put comical captions under the photos and then FUCKING PUBLISH THEM ON THE INTERNET????
And not only is this just plain fucking evil on its own merits, but it also sends a loud and clear message to the Arab/Muslim world about how much respect America has for their people.
Maybe the desecratees look like terrorists to the troops posting this shit (and I really don't want to look and see), but I'm betting that most of them just look like Iraqis to anyone who doesn't think they're all the same (i.e., Iraqis).
surfdork (& cde also):
Overwhelmingly, I like your activist antics directed at throwing a monkey wrench in the right wing machinery. Your action to put right wing publications in the bookstore in hidden places was great.
Two areas in which I take strong exception are 1) your targeting of yellow ribbons on cars - the majority of these people are not right wingers. They're either misguided in their patriotism or have someone serving in the armed forces. These are people we should be winning over rather than alienating. 2) Opposing Cantwell - Washington is a swing state. Cantwell's background is one of an administrative asst. to an elected representative who then struck out on her own & ran for Congress & lost. She then got into the tech boom at the right time & made a lot of money. She then used that money to unseat a right wing senator in a very close race. Her voting patterns are liberal. I hope you can forgive her a transgression or two, given that she votes the right way 90% of the time.
She's probably trying to show Washington voters, on items that are lost causes anyway, that she's not an ideologue. This is a good little trick that I wish all progressive elected officials would learn.
If you want someone to go after, look no further than Senator Feinstein from the nearby state of California. The state is flaming liberal & she's a centrist/right of center Senator. She ensured the passage of Gov Schwartzneigger's budget by actively supporting it, which escaped additional taxes on the rich & corporations. Another one is Senator Baucus, who bypassed Democratic committee procedures to get Bush's pharma bill through. I can give you more names if you like, but Cantwell is one of the good guys.
funny thing, too, that Bedrock Corp appears to be an accounts receivable factoring business.... not an ISP or web services provider.. has anyone looked ot see if Mr. Gannon writes much on the seamier side of "banking?"
http://www.google.com/search?
hl=...G=Google+Search
We are a degenerate country.
Thank you Mr. Bush. May you and your neocon monsters rot somewhere. Somewhere.
Shaw Kenawe
I'm not apologizing for the soldiers who provided the captions but I honestly wouldn't know how to react if I'd seen that horror every day. Are they doing it to cope?
I guess mortitions have a very dark sense of humor to help them cope.
It is F'd up regardless. I guess I am less offended by the captions than the actual act of blowing someones head off.
Maybe the desecratees look like terrorists to the troops posting this shit
Interesting question. How do you distinguish a dead terrorist from a dead innocent civilian? I'm assuming you'd have to go on more than appearance....
...but that's all photographs are: appearance. Which, of course, is the whole problem.
When they said "War is hell," they didn't mean it was hard to put up with. This, unfortunately, is what war inevitably leads to.
Interesting:
eff is a graduate of the Pennsylvania State University System and holds a Bachelor of Science in Education. He is also a graduate of the Leadership Institute Broadcast School of Journalism.
from Link here
That's one of the wingnut organizations, isn't it?
It is F'd up regardless. I guess I am less offended by the captions than the actual act of blowing someones head off.
I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't seem pretty seriously fucked up that they're posting this stuff like it's something to be proud of???
i disagree with carter. the message we should send to democrats is this:
fight the republicans or lose your comfy senate seat and go work for a fucking living.
I guess mortitions have a very dark sense of humor to help them cope.
Morticians who resort to desecration of corpses are not "coping." And photographs as described would conform to any reasonable definition of "desecration of a corpse."
goonnon's bio says:
"Jeff lives on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC and covers the White House for Talon News."
He LIVES on Captiol Hill? Under whose desk?
"Journalists", like cats, have "secret names".
truth is it helps the rethugs if democrats like the ones we have keep getting re-elected.
Olaf glad and big
Olaf, you still don't get it, huh? Elect whichever democrats you like, it doesn't matter.
Except to the degree that you still amuse us, YOU NO LONGER EXIST.
"how do you distinguish a dead terrorist from a dead innocent civilian?"
-rmj
they probably use the same method that was used in vietnam. if they are dead they are terrorists by definition.
Wondering if "I fuck off, therefore I am" would be a valid philosophical statement.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.28.05 - 6:59 pm | #
Hell, it's more or less mine.
IMHO the best thing about Gannon is how this control crazy White House has lost control of the loose cannons it coddled for the last four years.
Gannon lied to the President when he "quoted" Reid. Looked him in the eye and lied, in hopes he could get his man to bite. Did he think people would just let it slide? Not everyone pays attention to press briefings, but an actual Pres press conf is another level, watched by more than just the true belivers on Faux News.
Rove and Co has lost control, and someone bit the hand that feeds him.
"Journalists", like cats, have "secret names".
Like "Hackavity"...
Backslider, it's Van, as in Van Johnson.
Backslider, it's Van, as in Van Johnson.
Atablarasa Johnson | Email | Homepage | 01.28.05 - 7:18 pm | #
Well, that makes sense. Odd I'd never noticed it before. What a silly bunt.
Mr. Cronkite finished with a nice postscript in which he reiterates the the Religious Right's influence over America's politicans has gone too far.
I hope they are on the up and up. I've been waiting for Walter (whom I, too, remember from my childhood... my dad watched CBS news and Walter was in my living room for dinner every night... Dad affectionately referred to him always as "Cronker Walltight") to jump on these assholes in the Bush Admin... I'll be checking into them and if they are legit, I'll do what I can to help support them.
I just started a Jeff Gannon blog.
www.jeffgannon.blospot.com
He LIVES on Captiol Hill? Under whose desk?
Liddy's of course. She has him do special tongue exercises.
So, is Gannon's big purpose in life to make sure the administration's message is clearly conveyed during press gaggles -- by asking pointed questions that he probably already knows the answer to so that McClellan can respond on cue?
This Leadership Institute that Gannon graduated from is a wingnut propaganda mill. What are the journalistic principles it teaches? Might be interesting to find out.
Backslider, it's one of the many things about that movie that makes it the best of Mel's outings. There's a whole lot of subtle humor in the midst of the crass and vulgar.
So, why is Jeff Gannon using Jeff Gannon if he's only professorially JG? And who is he when he's not?
OT - NOT
Third Columnist Was Paid by Bush Agency
1 hour, 15 minutes ago Politics - AP
By SIOBHAN McDONOUGH, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - The Department of Health and Human Services (news - web sites) said Friday that a third conservative columnist was paid to assist in promoting a Bush administration policy.
Columnist Mike McManus received $10,000 to train marriage counselors as part of the agency's initiative promoting marriage to build strong families, said Wade Horn, assistant secretary for children and families.
...scum
Morticians who resort to desecration of corpses are not "coping." And photographs as described would conform to any reasonable definition of "desecration of a corpse."
Robert M. Jeffers
Again, I'm not defending what they've done but if I were to rename one of those photo files, would it be desecration? I'm trying to wrap my head around a very ugly thing and I am probably coming off insensitive.
Would the photos be as offensive if there were no captions? Would it be desecration?
How would you cope if you were over there? I try to imagine it everyday and I honestly think I'd go insane.
Cantwell - great name for a politician. Right up there with Sen. Bedfellow.
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Jeff Gannon had a two day seminar in journalism!!!!!
Training
Earlier today I saw some program where a Vietnam vet had saved a picture for 37 years of a Vietnamese soldier. The picture was of this soldier and his little daughter. The Vietnam vet had taken it off the Vietnamese soldier's body after he shot him in combat.
The picture haunted this American for 37 years. Through a series of coincidences and investigative work on this vet's part, he found the little girl, who, of course is now a grown woman. The American went to Vietnam to return the photo (the only one, it turns out, that existed of this little girl and her father) to the grown woman and asked her forgiveness.
After the American and the daughter embraced and wept, she forgave the man, and her large family that had gathered in the small village to greet the American, sat down with him, honored him and served him a meal.
This is the tragedy of war. These two men had no quarrel with each other. But because their countries were engaged in a war, the American had to kill the man, and because the American had a conscience and a heart, never forgot the dead soldier's daughter in the photo, and this stayed with him for 37 years!
Nobody, of course, thinks of these things when nations decide that war is the only answer to political problems.
Do you suppose Bush ever EVER spends a moment thinking about little girls whose daddie's heads have been blown off?
How many of those soldiers who took those horrendous pictures will someday return to Iraq and ask forgiveness of a fatherless young Iraqi woman?
So Attaturk finally got his link from Atrios! Thank God we don't have to hear about that anymore.
Backslider, I do remember alternate theories being taught in HS Biology. Those theories included creation (it was a native american creations story IIRC), spontaneous generation, and the garbage theory. For the most part, the alternative theories were dealt with on the first day of the section that included natural selection. I came from a strict religious background and was drilled in creationism. All that preventative religion was no match for the simplicity, elegance and awesomeness of natural selection. I saw God in Darwin's "theory".
All this took place back in the 70's.
I don't know what both sides get so worked up in a lather over. Introduction to the alternative theories didn't hurt as it was presented exceptionally well. Many years later, my career in research couldn't exist without natural selection. And that's a fact.
focus,
I'll say it again: why are they shelling out so much dough to third-rate hacks like McManus, Gallagher and Williams? Man, can you imagine the scratch Limbaugh or O'Reilly are getting?
And am I the only one who thinks it's a bit odd that conservatives - who are traditionally in favor of limited government - are apparently eating well at the governmental trough? Also, am I the only one who's getting the screaming heebie jeebies at it apparently being fine and dandy for journalists to take money to do what's basically government propaganda as long as they tell everybody? That's just awfully worrisome to me.
"even though married female reporters, who use their maiden name professionally"
That's the lifeline for Michelle Maglalang.
Jesus.
I did Robert McKee's screenwriting
seminar for three days, and I can't
get a movie deal.
Two days to become a journalist, on
the other hand.....hmmm.
the point is that he's allowed to be credentialed under his professional pseudonym even though women whose "professional pseudonyms" are their maiden names aren't.
Makes one wonder what dear Maggie Gallagher has been paid to think about the situation. Surely, it's best to reinforce the institution of marriage by forcing women to use their married surnames in a White House-related context.
I look forward to Gallagher's next column on this very subject.
Carter,
Cantwell is NOT one of the good guys PERIOD. She does not vote the right way 90% of the time.
Anybody who EXPLICITLY states the following: I vote for Dr. Rice because I appreciate her diverse professional
background as a Professor at Stanford University specializing in Russian
affairs, her experience as National Security Advisor, and her
demonstrated understanding of world affairs and diplomacy
Is either IGNORANT, DELUDED or LYING.
None of the above meet my criteria for being a Senator.
Cantwell is in office BECAUSE of progressives like me.
She is in office BECAUSE of techies, that thought she'd be their voice.
She has betrayed BOTH groups.
If I wanted rethug lite, I'd have voted for Slade, at least he kept the pork barreling in.
She then got into the tech boom at the right time & made a lot of money.
BULLSHIT, ALL LUCK! She has ZERO tech creds and consistently supports outsourcing and H1B's.
See that's HER perspective, that of an EXEC and bullshit exec at that.
She does not speak for us techies in the trenches.
I'm not the only progressive that has had it with her in Washington.
Oh and have you dealt with her DC staff?
At least Murrays are congenial.
Try talking to an asshole like Michael Hill.
Steve, making movies is a lot more complex and involved than journalism. You need at least a full week to master all the intricacies.
Has Cantwell been traditionally "centrist"? I had the impression that she was more leftish than the DLC. Could be I drank too much Kool-Aid™.
Oh, no more targeting yellow ribbons. I target "W" stickers.
Now tell my why Cantwell sided with the RIAA when it came to supporting internet radio?
Why did she do that if she's such a progressive?
Eli:
Now you tell me......
Olaf - I agree with the overall strategy of fighting the Repubs. But let's fight them smartly. Cantwell is one of us on the main issues. This vote for Rice was a misdirection play - Look at me, I do whatever is right regardless of the politics (Rice was in whether Cantwell voted for or against her). This is piddle stuff that doesn't mean anything. If it increases her chance of winning her upcoming election, I'm all for it. Senators, who are not ideologically with us - like Baucus & Feinstein, are a different story. We should knock them off. I suspect your strategy would ensure a right wing majority for the next millenium.
In the meantime, we, the base, have to expand the number of Americans who think like us. That's our job.
Cantwell has an IMAGE of progressivsm however her ACTIONS are htat of the standard DINO corporate shill.
See her siding with the RIAA on internet radio.
See her vote for the war and partiot etc.
We FLAMING liberals are what got her elected, the Nader 2000 voters got her into office.
So fuck the centrist crap, Slade Gorton was a centrist. Maria pretends to be otherwise when in fact she is a corporate shill.
Look at her words regardign Rice.
Now you tell me......
Hey, it's not like you're not doing well as it is. I see you were able to purchase a shift key recently.
I love this press release where "Jeff Gannon" tries to spin his being subpoenaed over the Plame treason into a pity party from the Freepers.
March 9, 2004
WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- A federal grand jury has subpoenaed White House records on administration contacts with more than two dozen journalists and news media outlets in a special investigation into the alleged improper leak of a covert CIA official's identity to columnist Robert Novak last July.
Talon News has learned that one of the journalists being targeted is Jeff Gannon, Washington Bureau Chief and White House correspondent for Talon News.
He's not in jail now, is he, so that must mean he squeealed everything he "could remember" to the Grand Jury?
Carter,
How is supporting outsourcing being on our side?
Seriously?
How is supporting the RIAA being on our side?
I live in Washington and I can tell you that progressives are FED UP WITH CANTWELL.
So Carter, why do you stick up for her?
Jeff Gannon had a two day seminar in journalism!!!!!
Great leapin' horny toads! I spent four fuckin' years at the University of Florida to get a degree in journalism, and nearly 15 years in the profession. Jay-sus...and y'all say this yay-hoo has got White House creds? Where the hell are mine, then? I reckon I could ask Scottie Boy some awfully interesting questions...
portia.vz,
I don't think I'd have a problem with "alternate theories" if they were, as you say, presented properly, but the problem is...they won't be. And the creationism folks never mean anything but their view when they holler about "alternative views on creation". By the time it gets to a high school science class, a scientific theory has been gone over but good by folks who know such things. Furthermore, while scientists fight like boar hogs over the specifics of evolutionary theory, they all pretty much agree the core of the concept is as rock-solid as a scientific theory gets.
I think back to my eighth-grade natural science teacher Mrs. Long, who taught us evolution as an accepted theory, but also said she didn't think it had anything at all to do with God's word or the "truth" found therein. It was seperate, and that's that. Creationism and intelligent design simply do not hold up under scientific scrutiny, mainly because it fails to show how one could, more or less, predict God's actions (predictability being a key reason for a theory's success or failure).
I've come to the decision that the creationists fight against evolution - while completely ignore other, more faith-quivering ideas like string theory - stems mainly from the all-too-human idea that we're the top of the heap when it comes to life on this, the third stone from the sun. In other words, no one likes the idea that we as individuals are pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of life, but that stroke apparently really gets up some folks' noses.
He's not in jail now, is he, so that must mean he squeealed everything he "could remember" to the Grand Jury?
I don't know about you, but I have trouble telling the difference between Teddy Kennedy and Scooter Libby. If one of them called me, I can't guarantee that I would remember accurately which one it was if you asked me a few weeks later.
Memory is a tricky thing.
Wait! I got it! This "Jeff Gannon" is really a DEMON! See, if you know a demon's true name, you can BIND IT and make it do your bidding!
Just another tiny cog in bringing on the Apocalypse, I would assume.
Actually it DECREASES her chance of winning because again she turns on her progressive base.
The Nader voters on 2000 are responsible for her victory not fucking moderates.
The rethugs will run a moderate if smart however I'm sure they are running low on moderates acceptable to Washington voters.
So tell me why I should support a Senator that does not support nor entertain my views.
Carter,
She is going DOWN! Mark my words, the shitstorm is just beginning for her.
Olaf, you just don't get it, do you?
Except in the capacity that you still amuse us, YOU NO LONGER EXIST.
Vote or don't vote, you no longer matter.
GOP
This makes it much, much easier to drop my pretenses of civility and just kick winger ass upon contact. Good luck.
Jeff Gannon had a two day seminar in journalism!!!!!
Great leapin' horny toads! I spent four fuckin' years at the University of Florida to get a degree in journalism, and nearly 15 years in the profession. Jay-sus...and y'all say this yay-hoo has got White House creds?
I think you may have this backwards, Backslider. Lack of journalistic background is exactly what they *want* in a White House reporter.
There was an SNL sketch where the Secret Service kept shooting Helen Thomas with trank darts so reporters from the likes of Cat Fancy and the Johnson Family Newsletter could ask Bush questions. Not that much of an exaggeration, really.
Why I still ever listen to CNN at all....
That twit Zahn just led Halen's family through the obligatory public statement that the kidnappers forced him to say unkind things about "Our President". I'm sure they proably did but this obvious prompting by Zahn to get his wife to say that was pathetic.
I had no idea you were a journalist, 'Slider - I never would have guessed that. No offense intended, my girlfriend got a degree in that as well, but it hasn't done her much good.
My mom's maiden name is Gannon. She complains that movie characters named "Gannon" are invariably alcoholics, which is not the case in her family.
Speaking of CNN, here's the funniest thing I've seen today.
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Makes one wonder just what they're trying to hide.
regards
.
Ha ha ha - Did ya'll see the cat fight between Sully and Kaus?
Sully's got a post up bitch slapping Kaus, after Kaus bitch slapped Sully. Like watching two dorks duke it out, both afraid to break a nail.
talon news having credentials is like giving credentials to a geocities site
...funniest thing I have read since the election.
Carter,
Here's how it's going to happen.
1. ALL Washington progressives outside of the Democrat party will abandon supporting her en masse (already happening).
2. Progressive Democrats will be split when another more progressive candidate runs against her.
3. The Republican dirty tricks machine will work overtime.
Hey! It was a very intense 2-day semen-ar...my large white buttcheeks and my puffy lips hurt for days afterward. And, even with the positive spin from the liberal press, I discovered afterwards that all it really does take is one time...who knew?
Going out for a couple of hours to
drown my sorrorws.
Have fun, all!!!!
Well, have fun all except the trolls.b
23 more dead Americans on pbs right now. fuck you, George Bush.
Steve - Is their a night you don't go out? My advice, buy a bar, it would be cheaper.
jfrjfrjfr - What happened?
OT: been out all day...is it too late for a kitty pic?
surfdork - My position isn't that Cantwell is perfect but that she's on the left on all the major issues that come before Congress, ie. SS, the Medicare pharma bill, Bush's tax cuts, support for the safety net, women's issues etc.
You mention a couple of poor policy decisions: H1Bs, RIAA & outsourcing. OK, but I ask you to look at the big picture. Put up a matrix of all the big policy decisions before Congress the past 4 years. Put where Cantwell voted on a progressive-right wing continuum & judge her accordingly.
Sounds like she has a shit administrator. Get through to her & tell her this guy is toxic.
I wish pbs would take the time (once a month, maybe?) to show the faces of (1%, 10%???) the dead Iraqi's. fuck you george bush.
I've got broken picture icons where the kitties should be. I can still see Bob and Doug McKensie's evil cousin though.
steve,
Jim Lehrer shows the faces of dead Americans as they are released by the Department of Defense, every night, in silence.
George W. Bush is what happened.
I had no idea you were a journalist, 'Slider - I never would have guessed that. No offense intended, my girlfriend got a degree in that as well, but it hasn't done her much good.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.28.05 - 7:49 pm | #
Honest truth is I tried to be a journalist, but I never was any good at it. I'm an okay writer, I suppose, but I've always lacked the focus it takes to be a real journalist (the idealized version, mind you). I did sports reporting, small town news (cops, commissioners' meetings, 104-year-old ladies at the retirement home, that sort of thing) and music journalism, and got soured on each and every one eventually.
Fact of the matter is, I don't like editors, I don't like being told what to write and, frankly, don't have the attention span. These days, I just write about whatever drifts in front of my attention and say whatever I damn well please. It's admittedly highly (no pun intended) by Hunter Thompson and Joe Bob Briggs/John Bloom, but I haven't paid the dues to do things like they do 'em (i.e., get paid for it).
I figured if I couldn't reach what I saw as the ideal for a journalist, I shouldn't do it. Plus, I refuse to piss in a cup, and you'd be amazed at how many newspaper jobs require drug testing. Though, obviously, not at Fox News or New York Times.
There was an SNL sketch where the Secret Service kept shooting Helen Thomas with trank darts so reporters from the likes of Cat Fancy and the Johnson Family Newsletter could ask Bush questions. Not that much of an exaggeration, really.
further proof that Tina Fey knows that the writers for the Onion are prophetic. are long national nightmare of peace and prosperity is over, just like The Onion writers said it would be.
I figured if I couldn't reach what I saw as the ideal for a journalist, I shouldn't do it.
Too bad that seems to be a minority opinion...
http://www.sfgate.com/columnists...nists/asmussen/
A funny take on 'disclosure.'
Isn't all that really matters to chimpy that you parrot the party line?
Plus, I refuse to piss in a cup, and you'd be amazed at how many newspaper jobs require drug testing.
The first time I had to piss in a cup, I knew I would fail. So I paid the taxi driver (from the interview to the clinic) to piss in a test tube for me. They called me a few days later and said I had passed the drug test, but I was suffering from liver failure.
"Would the photos be as offensive if there were no captions? Would it be desecration?"
one of the pictures in question is of a man's head with a large hole in the top of it. sticking out of the whole is a glowstick, the kind kids use on halloween. ha ha get it? we blew his fucking brains out and then stuck a glowstick in the hole. get it?
by the way, these guys will be returning to a society near you very shortly.
Sounds like she has a shit administrator. Get through to her & tell her this guy is toxic.
Without taking a position on other things you said about Cantwell, how do you suggest someone be able to do the above?
I-N-T-E-G-R-I-T-Y, find out what it means to I...
BGK,
Any time is the right time for kitties.
"Jeff Gannon" sounds like a porn name, doesn't it? At least a soap opera character.
Sounds like a bill collector to me. If, for one, would not talk to someone with that name if they called me and gave me the ol'
"Is this xxxxx xxxxxxxx, of 123 your street?"
And am I the only one who thinks it's a bit odd that conservatives - who are traditionally in favor of limited government - are apparently eating well at the governmental trough?
welfare for the 2nd stringers who are too stupid to cut it at AEI or Heritage, slackers who got in on their tasteful dog slobbering on their master's pants legs, rabid ideologues willing to sling a blade, etc... is this really surprising that the whores on the 2nd string need government handouts while slicksters like Stu Rothenberg know how to parlay their "skills" into regular paying gigs and sweet speaking fees from Monsanto (courtesy of the Dairyman's Slush Fund)? what's the mystery?
not that each and every Payola Shill shouldn't be outed and ridiculed...I'm just saying ...
not that each and every Payola Shill shouldn't be outed and ridiculed
Preferably accompanied by a running total of Your Tax Dollars At Work.
Why do women's credentials have to be in their married names?
To show proper deference to chimpy and the rest of his expectations for postive spin -- even his administration cannot afford to pay off all reporters.
Here's what I would like the EH to explain. Since they are ultra security nuts, how could they allow a fake journo to obtain fake press credentials? Surely the WH press corp is screened for security purposes, so Gannon could not have escaped their attention. Are they paying him? Is he a WH plant at press briefings and Q & A's? Holden's (god love him) gaggle reports sure make it appear that he is a plant. No real reporter asks those ridiculous questions Gannon does.
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I just started a Jeff Gannon blog.
www.jeffgannon.blospot.com
Jeff Gannon
you should sign the blogger petition against Gonzalez at Kos' place.
To see Gannon's name there might make some wingnut cry.
2 day seminar in journalism!!!!
EW=WH
Too bad that seems to be a minority opinion...
Eli | Email | Homepage | 01.28.05 - 8:03 pm | #
Well, that's where it all falls apart, of course. Journalism is a tough gig. Those who've been in it know what I'm talking about. You do a hundred things right and no one notices, but one misspelled word and it's the end of the world. You gotta find a different way to say the same shit was said at last night's comission meeting that's been said at every comission meeting (I still have nightmares about writing high school basketball). To actually get anywhere, you have to work like a mother, be it at actual journalism or (more often than not, these days) self-promotion. No one is ever, ever totally happy with the newspaper and they all think you're doing it on purpose, but you gotta keep trying. Advertising in general...*shudder*. You bust your nuts to get the magazine/paper out, and as soon as you're done, you gotta start all over again. The beast is never satisfied. And, finally, you're about two steps above a pimp when it comes to social respectability.
Most people working the journalism field are fairly hard-working and honest-as-they-can-be folks just trying to do a job I wouldn't wish on the most egregious sinner. The ones bitch about are either lazy or on the take, or usually both. That's the problem with the media, frankly. It's a powerful tool and sacred trust, and just like any other such item or concept, it's way, waaaay too easy to abuse and way, waaay too many folks abuse the living hell out of it.
Dogs Rule and Kitties Drool (or have Freudian fantasies about stuffed doggies, etc.) cuz it's Friday!
time to find a fattie and discover my inner inner.
Jeff Gannon ex-mall guard, now White House beat reporter. Is this a great country or what?
This is my obligatory Friday blogwhore for Babyblogging: let's have a caption contest!
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I'll say it again: why are they shelling out so much dough to third-rate hacks like McManus, Gallagher and Williams? Man, can you imagine the scratch Limbaugh or O'Reilly are getting?
Who is McManus, I haven't heard about this one.
How are these people getting busted? And how can more get busted?
Wondering if "I fuck off, therefore I am" would be a valid philosophical statement.
Guess it depends if it is on company time and if you get caught by one of the "big bozos on the bus." If so, the "I am" part might be fleeting.
NYMary,
Cute little hat on baby Mary.
Here's my caption: AAIIEEE! Mommy mommy, that bad, scary man GWB is on TV. AHHHHHHH!
And am I the only one who thinks it's a bit odd that conservatives - who are traditionally in favor of limited government - are apparently eating well at the governmental trough?
Did you forget the Repub motto: Do as I say not as I do.
Their rules are for the great unwashed masses, not for them.
That's the problem with the media, frankly. It's a powerful tool and sacred trust, and just like any other such item or concept, it's way, waaaay too easy to abuse and way, waaay too many folks abuse the living hell out of it.
Backslider
Well put, country boy! Yes, and way to many folks abuse the living hell
out of it.
And there are millions of people out here who would love someone to step up to the plate, like Bernstein and Woodward, and do the real investigative journalism that this country so desperately needs.
Lets face it this has not been journalism's finest hour.
meow meow Chessie again meow meow
meow catblogging, early? (hiss)
meow meow Romping in Snow meow
meow Kittydaddy needed Cheney coat meow
meow brrrr! meow meow
(turns, hears bird, walks away, eats grass)
Coming to Fox this fall.
Jeff Gannon...international journalist of mystery. All the women want him. All the bigwigs want to be interviewed by him. The man, the myth, the legend.
Don't miss it.
BGK,
Hurry, pull that cat's head out of other cat's ear. Hahaha. pretty kitty.
Hoyt, I'd have to disagree. I don't think that they believe they're above the rules; I think that they believe that they're only getting their true share. "Of course I deserve $210,000 for my help in pimping NCLB!"
nymary,
Babies United For Pink People!
bigvic,
That's Thersites' favorite hat. He loves it--on her, not on himself....
"with their married name"
Say what? I never changed my name; not "socially" or otherwise. I know I'm not alone here. So how can the Busheviki get away with unilaterally renaming women? Punks.
Hi Monica: how do you suggest someone be able to do the above?
Its tough because staff filter what gets through to her. However, a senator participates in all kinds of public forums. Just make sure you're there when she's in your area & give her the news. Another, if you know local party officials with clout, ask them to contact her with the info.
Regarding Cantwell, I'm a leftie. One-third of national democrats, I'd love to see dumped. However, I'm not Don Quixote. My criterion isn't you have to pass through the eye of a needle for my support. If you're progressive on the vast majority of thing, I'll give you a pass on a couple of minor transgressions.
Washington has a big defense industry & is a major, national high tech center. The things surfdork is disturbed about are items that the defense & hi tech industries support. I suspect that Cantwell is fearful if she crosses Microsoft or the aircraft industry, they'll do her in. I sympathesize with surfdork but think Cantwell is right in her fears.
And am I the only one who thinks it's a bit odd that conservatives - who are traditionally in favor of limited government - are apparently eating well at the governmental trough?
'twas always so -- how do you think chimpy's base got so fabulously wealthy. It is through the power and the collective public trough that big business got big -- virtually ALL basic computer technology was developed at government expense and given away, gratis, to IBM and the likes. The same is true with medicine patents.
Corporate America has grown because of its ability to manipulate government to achieve its ends, while soaking the rest of us with the bills. The war mathine is especially profitable -- figure the Iraq was will cost AT LEAST $300 Billion by the end of the year.
Do the math -- that represents more than $2.3 MILLION DOLLARS FOR EACH OF THE 130,000 troups there. Where do you think that money actually went -- certainly did not "support our troops!"
Sisi,
Neither did I. With the exception of a few elderly lady relatives on the spouse's side, few people seem confused by this. WTF is the WH's problem? Wait, don't answer that....
Sisi, they don't let "feminazis" like you (anyone who would have the nerve to keep her name) in the room, so it's not an issue.
jfrx3,
BUPP? That's an odd acronym....
So how can the Busheviki get away with unilaterally renaming women?
Didn't you see the Bybee memo? George Bush is the undisputed master of the universe. Just ask Gonzalas.
Chessie,
Do you walk your snow kitty on a leash? My cat would just lie down and not budge. I tried to walk him with the dogs and he wouldn't move with the leash on. He just trots behind us with out it.
Out of nowhere on Wednesday, at about 1:00 PM ET, Jack went absolutely bananas and started mauling the Dubya chew toy. Anything happen around that time that might've started a sixth-sense frenzy?
Chessie's spokesman here - we have a substantial drainage pond and woods behind the apartment building. She's a flight risk taking her outside, because the woods just smell yummy. Hence the leash.
Suprisingly, she did walk in the snow a little this last time, because there was no grass visible. She will walk toward plants to sniff (and possibly nibble upon) them. In the summer, she plops down wherever we sit her, as long as there is a buffet of grass to nibble.
I'll bet "Jeff" is really named something like Norbert Pisher. It never fails. Would Kim Du Toit be such a wanker if he'd not been landed with such a perfect Beavis-and-Butthead joke of a name? "heh, heh, heh. he said "toit" (pronounce in the original French) Couldn't his parents at least given him a less gender-ambiguous first name? What were they drinking?
BUPP? That's an odd acronym....
Well, the outfit is too light for Babies United for Rosy People.
It is through the power and the collective public trough that big business got big -- virtually ALL basic computer technology was developed at government expense and given away, gratis, to IBM and the likes. The same is true with medicine patents.
so wait, your saying that the work done by DARPA and NSFNet, and the NCSA, and CERN to create tcp/ip, isn't something capital formations should be allowed to profit from? and that socializing the cost and privatizing the benfit of technology and pharmaceutical development is soemthing we should worry about?
communist. you sound like that well known Marxist Dwight D. Eisenhower, whose Interstae Highway System was a well known plot to socialize the cost and privatize the benfit, or that commie FDR, whose welfare for old folks got us into this HUGE CRISIS we face today... daMN
Babies United for Rosie People, on the other hand...
NYMary: (caption) I may not be a kitty but I'm just as cute
Sully's got a post up bitch slapping Kaus, after Kaus bitch slapped Sully. Like watching two dorks duke it out, both afraid to break a nail.
I imagine there would be a lot of ineffectual slapping of air at high speed until someone gets winded.
BURP!
jesus -- margaret carlson on msnbc talking about press ethics.
Or, alternatively, Babies United for Tiny Tantrums...
Haven't seen comment on Night Line last night.
Joe Wilson and Fuck head Pearle were on.
The part I saw was a question and answer deal with an audience.
I thought Kopple did good.
Some of the war supporter GI's, I swear, had to be Repub plants.
Susan at Suburban Gueilla has a transcript of a Rabbi, anti war, speaking during a break. Apparently one of the highlights of the night, but not broadcast.
Also some dude Gets up to a mike and yells "Hey Perle, tells about PNAC, I'm outta here".
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FTR, I have an excellent reason for not taking the Mr.'s name: it's one that could be a woman's first name. This leads to occasional confusion, as his mother knows too well. If C+ Augustus took it into his pointy head to call me "Rosie" no amount of dope-slapping would ever get him to stop.
nymary
pink power
pink software
pink diaper babies
pink and proud
pink: the new magenta
just off the top of my head. sorry the acronym don't work.
Babies United: Since Half Sisters Utilize Conundrums, Kissing Sisters Iterate Syllogisms!!!
better?
Upthread there was a comment about how the repugs are not really the party of fiscal conservatism. History proves this, so does this link:
Lockheed Martin Wins $1.6 Billion Marine One Contract
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/
2...artner=homepage
This is obscene -- but I guess if they can steal by snooking the public into thinking that $2.3 Million has been responsibly spend per each of the 130,000 troups -- why not go for it all.
Where were the dems on this one before the election and where are they now. Evidently, when chimpy talks about "is our children learning," he doesn't mean MATH!
I just clicked past Fox but not before noticing this on the screen:
The Fifth Estate. Fox under Fire (or attack. Didn't stay long enough to get a good look. Don't care).
If Fox is doing a story about some attack on its reporting, I can just imagine the drivel it would broadcast. Those people are nothing but like entertainment. Lousy entertainment.
BGK,
God boy, Jack. Good good boy!
Bryan,
Cool cat. Loves grass? Heh.
No like. 
so wait, your saying that the work done by DARPA and NSFNet, and the NCSA, and CERN to create tcp/ip, isn't something capital formations should be allowed to profit from? and that socializing the cost and privatizing the benfit of technology and pharmaceutical development is soemthing we should worry about?
Certainly not saying it is inappropriate to build capital on public investments -- I am just saying lets call it what it is and quit lying about who really supports free markets and who is just bellying up the the public trough and proclaiming that everyone else need not apply!
I wish Fox was on fire.
BGK,
I meant Good boy, Jack, not God boy, though he would probably agree with the former.
It is really cold in D.C. tonight, but the sky is really clear and the stars are amazing.
Those people are nothing but like entertainment. Lousy entertainment.
I think there's more reality programming on the non-news Fox...
mr. bill
watching ABC's broadcast of the catfight between Sikorsky and LockheedMartin (America's number one Superfund polluter of perchlorethylene) over who would get bragging rights to build the NextGen Presidential Helicopter was the highlight of my night so far.
Sikorsky worker:"Buy American"
Berlusconi, Blair, Queen Elizabeth:@ buy the Euro-designed and euro-parted but American assembled LockheedMartin product"
a clash of Titans. and of course ABC agreed with the decision, the "Euro"Chopper afforded better armor and communications and had 3 engines. in a 9/11 world can we really afford to let the Prezident ride around in a 2-engine MarineOne? I think not.
9/11: LockheedMartin Can Keep Us Safe!
Geez, it's 15 degrees here. We're having a heat wave.
Didn't Ted Turner compare Fox to Hitler the other day? that's probably what their whining about. BTW did you read Wolcott's post about Fox hiring Feith? it's hilarious.
pie,
Dang, I thought Fox was ON fire, not under fire. Those martyrs are always crying about how abused they are. Sniveling babies.
I think there's more reality programming on the non-news Fox...
I can't imagine being a journalist and landing a gig at Faux. Yuk. Those people are such jokes. The way it's run is even a bigger joke.
Snakeoil salesmen.
florida is very very cold right now. butt no snow. damn.
damn Northerners and their damn Cold Fronts and piles of snow. oh February, with your lows in the 70's, how I await thee.
Hoyt C.,
Wolcott is the man. Feith and friends, indeed.
Dang, I thought Fox was ON fire, not under fire.
It would just rise from the ashes, worse than ever.
pie
Why are you trying to denigrate snakeoil salesman? comparing them to Fox journalists. Snakeoil salesmen were just trying to make a buck. Fox is trying to bring down a great nation, by poisoning the public discourse.
O'Reilly and Hannity wouldn't have jobs if it weren't for Bart Simpson.
9/11: LockheedMartin Can Keep Us Safe!
jfrjfrjfr
LOL -- to frame this issue as "buy American!" No, this is not the biggest contract the pentagon has ever handed out -- BUT IT IS ONLY 1 FREAKIN' AIRCRAFT. Guess when the public is as numb about numbers, whats another billion here or billion there?
Oh, but ask for a dime to help fight the effects of poverty and its effects on a child's development and the public is up in arms. This $1.6 BILLION is nothing less than THEFT -- does it really matter who stole it and if the theives were 100% American?
The dog woke me up at 2am two nights ago. She needed to use the yard. The moon was so bright I thought the flood lights were on outside. Truly magical.
O'Reilly and Hannity wouldn't have jobs if it weren't for Bart Simpson.
O'Reilly could be a vibrator demonstrator. And Hannity could go back to being, chief penis washer at the whorehouse.
www.jeffgannon.blogspot.com
Sisi, as a follow up and for full disclosure, my wife took my name and then gave it back. My mother has not forgiven her but I told her not to use mine in the first place. Too hard to spell, I have no love of it, and I'm somewhat inclined to follow the tradition of changing your name after big events in your life.
I'm considering taking my wife's name after my mom dies. That might piss off our hyphenated kids, though.
mer & Hecate,
The amazing part is when the moon's bright enough to bring out the sparkle in the snow. Had a long talk this morning with Young Thersites about why snow sparkles. He was amazed.
O'Reilly and Hannity can bob on each other's knobs at a carnival.
Fox is trying to bring down a great nation, by poisoning the public discourse.
My humblest apologies to snake oil salesmen.
I just emailed the *Billie* post to a bunch of people. Boy, that was a great way to start the day.
You've just commited mass murder in support of your (and your pals) ideological aims. You've subverted the Constitution of the United States. Your aides are being investigated by the FBI as active agents of Mossad, and most of the Pentagon recognizes you as a clear and present danger to our way of life. If your name is Douglas Feith you find yourself
a)rotting in Hell
b)rotting in a cell in Hague
c)facing Congressional committees
d)recruited by Fox News
there will be a quiz.
jfrx3,
Can't help but notice that "I'm going to Disneyworld!" isn't a choice...
Who is McManus, I haven't heard about this one.
How are these people getting busted? And how can more get busted?
Another Bruce
From Salon:
Third columnist caught with hand in the Bush till
Michael McManus, conservative author of the syndicated column "Ethics & Religion," received $10,000 to promote a marriage initiative.
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By Eric Boehlert
Jan. 27, 2005 | And three makes a trend.
One day after President Bush ordered his Cabinet secretaries to stop hiring commentators to help promote administration initiatives, and one day after the second high-profile conservative pundit was found to be on the federal payroll, a third embarrassing hire has emerged. Salon has confirmed that Michael McManus, a marriage advocate whose syndicated column, "Ethics & Religion," appears in 50 newspapers, was hired as a subcontractor by the Department of Health and Human Services to foster a Bush-approved marriage initiative. McManus championed the plan in his columns without disclosing to readers he was being paid to help it succeed.
Mr. bill,
You are right about the Rethugs spending my tax money on useless crap like Star wars, waste gobs of dough on shady Military Industrial Complex deals. But try to insure more poor children or raise the minimum wage and these spend thrifts do a 360. Then they become the guardians of the beloved taxpayer's dollars.
This was posted at 5:15 Atrios' "party" started at 5:30. Man, get to work!!
e)all of the above
I think I'm going to go watch some TeeVee, but before I go I'd like to quote my 79 year old Ukrainian grandfather, "No lika da Boooooosh!"
Shaw,
"Ethics & Religion," Not in the Bu$h White House. Hahahaha. Don't even tell me Bu$h didn't personally approve all this.
jfrjfrjfr
all of the above.
I get an A+
DisneyWorld. aaaaargh.
when I was at UCI I never went ot DisneyLand, and after 8 years in Florida I have never been inside the actual borders of DisneyWorld (though really close many times.) in April I will finally go when 2 nephews and 1 niece and I (+wife, +sister+husband) go. I am very very very scared.
read too many "Disney" comics (ie Carl Barks and Floyd Gottfriedson, +other hacks) not to be scared of Uncle Walt's Global Village.
butt flying in and out of Orlando, it's the Euro tourists going to "Disney" I am fascinated by.
oh well, Space Mountain Here I Come.
Dear Mr Bush,
Had a great time at the inauguration. How about inviting us to the democracy?
Sincerely,
America
NYMary,
That's the great thing about having kids, when you get to reexperience the wonder of learning about the world and see things through their eyes for a minute or two. There was a full moon on Tuesday, so we got the full effect on the snow, with shadows cast by the stark trees, as well. Lovely -- from inside.
even though married female reporters, who use their maiden name professionally, are given credentials with their married name and aren't allowed to be credentialed under their maiden names
Well, his name was Jeff Gannon when I knew him.
He wasn't that great.
All he did was lie there and sweat.
.
Yo !
Quick question from an occasional lurker.
Why isn't "Eschaton" on the list of blogs that oppose Gonzales' nomination ?
I just emailed the *Billie* post to a bunch of people.
I did that this morning. I got a bunch of e-mails back asking if it was from the Onion or another parody site. I wrote back that in Bu$h world, you cannot make shit like this UP.
I agree with Hecate. Baby's Rule. I envy my sisters who have them. Marx's encomium on the "Holy Family" notwithstanding.
pink power!
ch2
get a life.
Get a president.
ch2
obviously Atrios supports our Torturer General.
now fuck off.
mer,
you missed an occasion to shut up.
I think I'm going to go watch some TeeVee, but before I go I'd like to quote my 79 year old Ukrainian grandfather, "No lika da Boooooosh!"
Well, we know that Ukrainians have a low tolerance for electoral fraud...
Sorry I fed a troll
hey, is anybody else waiting for the new Monk? if I didn't have the flu we (after Sushi and a fattie in the theater parking lot) would be watching the remake of Assault on Precinct 13 by now. instead it's Bacardi and Coke Friday, waiting for the new Monk, and reading Eschaton.
what a loser I y'am! oy vey
I just clicked past Fox but not before noticing this on the screen:
The Fifth Estate. Fox under Fire
If you are a retiree and interested in helping deliver fair and accurate news stories, Talon News is the place for you to do it.
Sounds like Talon News is a front for FreakRepugnant.
jfrjfrjfr,
First, fuck off as well !
I don't take to insults well.
Second, I don't think Atrios supports Gonzalez (duh !). But I want to know why he's not on the list.
If you DON'T know, it's ok to say nothing, instead of spouting verbal diarrhea.
instead it's Bacardi and Coke Friday, waiting for the new Monk, and reading Eschaton.
That sounds a lot better than watching two hours of Ethan Hawke, actually...
Awww, fudgenuts--didn't notice that improperly closed tag until after I hit submit. Sometimes I fail to smack shift and . simultaneously--or I manage to hit shift and / at the same time.
d'oh.
I don't take to insults well.
ok, butt do ya like goat sex?
florida is very very cold right now. butt no snow. damn.
damn Northerners and their damn Cold Fronts and piles of snow. oh February, with your lows in the 70's, how I await thee.
jfrjfrjfr
Grew up in Ohio.
As a kid I loved the snow.
As an adult I grew to hate it.
Sure, if like in NM you could get several inches of snow, but by noon, it's mostly melted, well cool.
(and get to watch all the locals play bomper cars)
But imagine days, weeks of -10 even -20 degrees, drifting snow. Going out in the morning, not to play in the pretty snow, but just to go to work, and having to shovel just to get out of the drive way. Then getting in your car and hearing ur ur ur and nothing. Having to jump one car with the other in bitter cold wind.
Fuck, count your blessings.
If I never see cold and snow again, it won't be long enough.
I hate that shit.
.
goat sex ?
Reminds me of the goat-f*cker joke I read at Rudepundit.
Anyway, as I was saying... there's a weekly hour-long in-depth journalism program on CTV up here called "the fifth estate".
And Fox News just received approval a few months ago for a licence on the digital tier up here.
Kind of demonstrates how snotty and self-centered Fox News collectively is, eh?
I walk to & from work, have some seriously warm gear, and don't have to do any shoveling, so the snow doesn't bother me too much. Not real fond of the real slick ice, though.
My only problem with winter is that there's no softball (or baseball, for that matter). Other than that, I'm cool with it, so to speak.
Any chance we'll get enough Senate repuglicans to vote nay with the dems to defeat Gonzales nomination?
It seems that the tide might be turning, at least with the dems, who might be voting in a block. But we need more, of course.
Who do you think might join us, for the good of the country, and to let the world know we are a nation of principles?
Names, thoughts?
That ch2 is some rude dude. I was never allowed to say "shut up"--still don't. Worst than curse words IMO.
agave,
Boston born and bred, so days and days and days of snow I know. and now, living in the Sunshine Sate of jeb, I miss it. in a horrible, see it when I visit the folks, want to ski right now, kind of way.
but slush sucks, and snowplows are our enemy, and the Homer/Barney SnowPlowKingFeud is my favorite....
damn I miss snow. and sorry, ch2, if you were asking a legit ? butt goat sex trolls have been plentiful in these parts of late...etc....snow.
Eli, try Yaktrax for ice. (And no, I don't have a dog in this hunt.) I bought a pair last year and then it didn't get icy. This year I've used them for two ice storms and found them pretty handy.
Weird about "Monk". It's really a crappy show and yet I can't get enough. The lure of Tony Shaloub, I guess. I can watch them in rerun over and over, and there's always some great nuance in his performance I didn't see the first time.
He had me at "Galaxy Quest"!
Anyway, as I was saying... there's a weekly hour-long in-depth journalism program on CTV up here called "the fifth estate".
Didn't Franken have a piece about Coulter getting into a kerfuffle with a Canadian "fifth estate" journalist regarding Canada's military involvement in the VietNam War? As I recall, she said something stoopid, he corrected her, she refused to acknowledge that she was wrong.
No space for faux footnotes if not in print, I guess.
mer,
And I was never allowed to say "get a life" either.
So rudeness begat rudeness. Anyway, if someone can send an email to Atrios.
Here is the website:
http://newsfare.com/no-to-gonzales/
I don't remember people being so quick to jump on you, but last time I lurked was pre-election.
Thanks, ATRJ. Fortunately, I have pretty good balance and ice-walking skills, so I fall maybe once every 2-3 years. But a little extra piece of mind couldn't hurt. Especially on that one bit of sidewalk where it inexplicably tilts downward to the street like a phantom driveway...
bigvic -- I guess I missed your BILLIE story, but you are absolutely right about chimpy's world sounding like something from the Onion. How about "Go F2ck Yourself" cheney (you know, the one with the "values voters") and his dress at the Auschwitz memorial (parka and ski hat?)
He either should have known better or just did not care and did it deliberately. Which one is worse -- six or a half dozen.
I have my opinion of which of the 2 it was -- but it doesn't really matter. I wouldn't call it passive aggressive resistance, but I can see your point too.
Perhaps he did it because he knew he could and everyone else can be damned. After all, what fun is it to be a neocon repug, participate in wholesale theft from the US Treasury and AT LEAST 1 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION if you cannot rub people's nose in it?
I don't believe that chimpy is actually in control -- just too incompetent. "Big Dick" Cheney is probably more "in charge," but he is probably not running the show either.
The power behind this administration, IMHO, lies outside of any official government office (this is often called the "shadow government"). These interests have been around for decades -- probably even longer. They have the US where they want it now and aren't afraid to flaunt it.
Who are some of these players? Good question! I don't know whom they are now, but in the past they included chimpy's grandfather. The guardian had an excellent article on the forces that brought Hitler to power.
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/
st...1312540,00.html
While I was taught in school, k-12, that Hitler was this evil genius, I now have to wonder if he was just another "smirking chimp" (read ignorant, self-absorbed fool) that was doing the work of others -- all along thinking he was "in charge."
Yes, Cheney must know better, but then I need to humbly recognize that I don't think like a pathological liar or excessively greedy, unethical person. I am sure "Go F@ck Yourself" Cheney really enjoyed that stunt.
Second, I don't think Atrios supports Gonzalez (duh !).
Then why does he have to sign something?
Do you know how often everyone is asked to sign a petition?
Maybe some people feel that it's important, but not all do, and we all do it when the mood strkes us.
I am not speaking for Atrios, but his position on Gonzales is crystal clear.
He had me at "Galaxy Quest"!
Have you seen Big Night (great movie) or Quick Change? He only has a small part in the latter, but it's hilarious.
My only problem with winter is that there's no softball (or baseball, for that matter). Other than that, I'm cool with it, so to speak.
The world champion red sox "spring season" schedule can be found here. fucking A bubba! the March 3rd game against the Twins is a "Home" game. hahahahaha, by March Florida has highs in the 80's.
and the snorkeling in March in the Keys is outstanding. March 3rd is the beginning of my Spring Break. go figure.
red(s)ox fans who need a Florida Crash Pad for Spring Break Training, see my email link. seriously. Red Power!
che, there's another website with 400 some blogs signed on - I don't remember if Atrios was on the list. The orange fonts links were too hard to stare at for that long and it wasn't alpabetized.
Sweet, Shaloub is great, eh? Remember his taxi driving character on Wings?
While I was taught in school, k-12, that Hitler was this evil genius, I now have to wonder if he was just another "smirking chimp" (read ignorant, self-absorbed fool) that was doing the work of others -- all along thinking he was "in charge."
If that were the case, you'd think they would have figured out a way to take the keys away from him when he started losing the war...
Sweet, Shaloub is great, eh? Remember his taxi driving character on Wings?
Oh, but that pales in comparison to his taxi driving character in Quick Change...
("Bloftoony! Bloftoony!")
Evening.
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you'd think they would have figured out a way to take the keys away from him when he started losing the war...
Eli | Email |
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You would think so right now, wouldn't you?
Eli -
I haven't seen either of those films, but I will.
Guess nobody here is hopeful that we'll get some kind of bi-partisan help in rejecting the Gonzales nomination?
One can dream...
People feel that it's important to sign a petition, that is.
The issue of Gonzales as A.G. is very important.
ch2, I do not think anyone here supports Gonzales for AG. Therefore, I thought your comment was unwarranted. Your tone struck me as being a troll.
If that were the case, you'd think they would have figured out a way to take the keys away from him when he started losing the war...
They tried--the July 20 plot.
Anyway, if someone can send an email to Atrios.
The link for sending an e-mail to Atrio [CONTACT INFORMATION : email:atrios@comcast.net] on the page that you have loaded doesn't work?
yaktracks are great. Someone here recommended them to me and I feel much more secure on ice and snow.
Wow, the moon here has a halo effect.
Beautiful.
But try to insure more poor children or raise the minimum wage and these spend thrifts do a 360. Then they become the guardians of the beloved taxpayer's dollars.
bigvic | Email | Homepage | 01.28.05 - 9:09 pm
Err... not to be a jerk but that would be a "180"... a reversal. A "360" would just swing you all the way around to precisely where you started from. I know you knew that, it's just that I used to be a Land Surveyor and that just jumped out at me.
I'll shut up now.
Eli, another really great, food-related movie is Babbette's Feast. Mid 80s, French. From an Isak Dinesen short story. Just beautiful.
Ripley -
Never saw Wings either! Need to catch up on my Tony Shaloub filmography, for sure.
Atrios. Not Atrio.
Dang, I thought Fox was ON fire, not under fire.
It would just rise from the ashes, worse than ever.
pie
Like the Termonataur?
.
I sent mail to Durbin, thanking him for his NAY!!! vote on Rice and urged him to do the same for Gonzales. I think the Gonzales vote will be more turbulent and enlightening.
Harold Ickes is supporting Dean for DNC chair. This is very good news.
Mena, Babbette's Feast is one of my most favorite movies of all times. I think I have watched it at least 6 or 7 times.
Sweet, Wings was a sitcom in the 90's. Crystal Bernard, Tim Daly, Steven something. It was pretty funny and Shaloub was a riot.
dream on sweet poison,
jeffords. and how many D's. a straight Party Line Vote? now that is a sweet dream. D's Voting For our new Torturer General:
Joementum
DiFi
Nelson
Salazar
[DO NOT MAKE ME KEEP COUNTING THE QUISLINGS]
why is john yee teaching at UC Berkley School of Law and not in a cell at the Hague?
Wow, the moon here has a halo effect.
Beautiful.
I got to watch it rise past the CN Tower.
That was kinda neat.
pie.
I think that's supposed to mean you'll get precipitation.
pie: "the moon here has a halo effect"
probably made more beautiful by the lack of Bush's face in the picture
re: Cheney's Auschwitz attire- he just got Death Camps and the Bataan Death March conflated. Y'know the guy kinda avoided war and the nastiness surrounding it til he was old enough to send other people.
Maybe THIS is why Gannon gets special treatment?
http://
www.democraticunderground...ess=102x1193511
mer, it's alright.
The petition I went too was linked from DailyKos, and it was a BLOG's petition with links.
Thanks Monica in NYC.
And jfrjfrjfr,
i don't get the troll-goat sex reference, but you really should this beautifully rude "goatf*cker" argument against Bush.
http://tinyurl.com/6svgk
peace.
Strom had a hemorrhoid in the shape of a dodecahedron. I felt very Greek licking it.
-Liddy Dole
mer. yes. one of those movies that just make you feel good to think of.
You would think so right now, wouldn't you?
The thought certainly occurred, but it's not really the same thing, since Iraq was pretty much unwinnable from Day One, and I don't think Bush is personally making it worse - he's delegating that to Rumsfeld.
(yeah, I know, Mark - but if he was just a front man, would they have really needed to resort to blowing him up?)
Eli, another really great, food-related movie is Babbette's Feast.
I've seen that. The food stuff is great, and the movie overall is pretty good, but I still prefer Big Night's humor and finely-crafted script.
OT PSA for anyone with WWII vet family members:
There's a bill in Congress (it may have passed by now) to make payments to WWI POWs that were on the Death March of Bataan. My uncle was a POW there and it did things to his body that we should pray never happen to anyone again.
jfr -
I bet DiFi drops out. I feel a shift coming, the winds are blowing harshly for Gonzales and maybe there will be such a piling on of bad news about him they will feel safe enough to vote against him. I think there's a groundswell of negative news on him and it's growing.
But yeah, I won't expect anything more than what we've already seen from the quislings. You know, if this were a different time, we would have Republican no votes on such a hideous, controversial figure. sigh.
why is john yee teaching at UC Berkley School of Law and not in a cell at the Hague?
Atrios. Not Atrio.
There's more than one Atrio? Is there one for each internet?
Bebe's the funniest person online
mer. yes. one of those movies that just make you feel good to think of.
Have you seen Tampopo? Another truly great food movie. Be sure to have lots of noodles ready before you watch it.
I love Glenn Reynolds:
When Ted Kennedy can make an absurd and borderline-traitorous speech on the war, when Michael Moore shares a VIP box with the last Democratic President but one, when Barbara Boxer endorses a Democratic consultant/blogger whose view of American casualties in Iraq is "screw 'em," well, this is the authentic face of the Left. Or what remains of it.
There was a time when the Left opposed fascism and supported democracy, when it wasn't a seething-yet-shrinking mass of self-hatred and idiocy. That day is long past, and the moral and intellectual decay of the Left is far gone.
Is HaloScan drunk too, or is it just me?
Joe Lieberman is...
Ugh.
He's just awful. He isn't representing his constituency, is he?
Really?
But he is representing someone.
You know, if this were a different time, we would have Republican no votes on such a hideous, controversial figure. sigh.
Pfft. He shouldn't even *be* controversial. How the hell is torture not unanimously reviled in this country???
Monk is on. bye 4 now. Obsessive Compulsive SF Dicks are more impotant than the Internets.
Red Sox Repeat!!!!!
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borderline-traitorous speech on the war
OK. It's not just me.
Ripley, I had a relative who took the march, too. I've been told that he was a broken man ever after, couldn't hold a job, drank and blew out his brains in the 1950s. Too late for compensation.
Is HaloScan drunk too, or is it just me?
As long as you're not driving, it's Hell-o-scan, of course.
If that were the case, you'd think they would have figured out a way to take the keys away from him when he started losing the war...
Perhaps you missed my point -- the is a ton of money to be made on this war. Halliburton and freinds are not losing. These same interests also did not "lose" money on WWII -- they made it HANDS OVER FISTS! This is actually where the Bush family fortune comes from.
When Ted Kennedy can make an absurd and borderline-traitorous speech on the war
I'm sorry, I thought you said "When Republicans can make absurd and borderline-traitorous speeches on the Clinton intervention in Bosnia and missile strikes against terror in Afghanistan"
Oh, I forgot--DissentIOKIYAR, dissentITreasonIYAD.
HaloScan is drunk. I've refreshed, quit, refreshed again, and it still won't let me see Atrois's kitties. Damn.
Eli, Tampopo? Never heard of this one. Is this available on DVD or Video?
I'd add to mr. bill's comment that Vietnam had a lot of profiteering going on in one way or another. Not all of it in cash -- the armed forces ran the officers through so they could get their qualification in, thereby screwing the troops who were thus deprived of trained leaders and were forever breaking in new ones.
I'm conifdent that there will be comparable stories out of Iraq. So the brass and the money people have no motive to get the troops out any time soon.
Have you seen Tampopo?
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Yeah, but I don't remember it well. I should rent it. I do remember I liked it.
Is HaloScan drunk too, or is it just me?
I'm drunk, and you're drunk, so HaloScan must be drunk.
Right1, I'm always confused when neocons label liberals as "haters"; what exactly is it that we hate?
We're pro-people, and I think you'll find that most of us do not celebrate American/Iraqi casualties but are pissed beyond belief that BushCo sent these kids to die in a conflict without merit.
We support democracy; remember how we asked that each vote count and be legitimate? And isn't facism the restriction of individual liberty via a terror-based form of government? Why would we love fascism?
I don't understand the neocons views of America or the "Left". Speculation and urban legend philosophy seems to be the logic de rigeur.
I'm drunk, and you're drunk, so HaloScan must be drunk.
The Haloscan has been drinking, not me.
Echidne, my uncle would never, ever talk about what happened. I'm surprised that most POWs are able to function in society afterward.
We are the saddest species sometimes.
Thersites,
a Waits ref! Huge fan here.
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but slush sucks, and snowplows are our enemy,
Fucking slow plows. I spent 2 hours shoveling snow after one of the worst blizzards I ever saw in Ohio, just to have a snow plow make a wall of packed snow across my driveway.
Maybe the difference is I was more in a rural setting.
That same year I ran out of, $250 of heating oil, in 1981 $, but I had a kick ass wood stove and a pile of wood. So in my infinite wisdom, what the fuck, who needs fuel oil, I'll use the wood.
Well, I went to an Xmas party in downtown Dayton on the 23'rd, it was getting towards 20 below and the next day nobodys car starts.
I didn't get home till 10 pm Xmas, I missed some major shit, and I don't mean the typical family shit.
When I get home it's fucking cold, the pipes are frozen, there's ice in the toliets, but eventually no real damage.
But I have to go out in blinding cold wind and split wood. I'm serious, the wind was tearing my eyes up and it was dripping on my glasses and freezing.
So call it bad planning or supidity on my part, but when I hear people say I wish it would snow a foot, I wish it would get real cold, I want to strangle them.
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the is a ton of money to be made on this war. Halliburton and freinds are not losing.
Damn straight.
That's why BushCo has been sticking with the same plan in Iraq since the beginning, even though it is obviously not "working" in the sense of keeping people safe & alive.
Which is not really their goal, of course.
In fact, the longer this mess drags on, the more money Congress is going to appropriate for it, a significant portion of which flows directly into the coffers of Haliburton et al.
Losing a thousand or so soldiers per year is absolutely nothing to them. A number that small can easily be replaced.
I wouldn't look for Bush to be pulling troops out of Iraq anytime soon. That is just not the plan. We are there for good, or at least until someone somehow forces Bush to give Iraq up, or somebody else takes over the presidency.
Right1, I'm always confused when neocons label liberals as "haters"; what exactly is it that we hate?
I was slammed onto a mailing list back in early 2001. A list full of wingers. At first I thought it was just some wackos on another list I belonged to being vocal, but I came to learn they were all rabid jokers I'd never met before.
Anyhoo, I'd just replied to somebody's silly, ignorant memes with a number of rational complaints about Bush (this was before I began to really hate the fucker). People didn't respond at all to my points, just began to attack me as a "stupid lib". I'll never forget what one person said:
Why do libs hate regular people? Really. It haunts me.
I realized then there was no dealing with these people. Okay, so I'm a slow learner.
Anyway, as I was saying... there's a weekly hour-long in-depth journalism program on CTV up here called "the fifth estate...
This is probably repeat of the program I saw earlier in the week with that skank Coulter arguing that Canada sent troops to Vietnam
Diner? Eating Raoul?
I'm ready for tomorrow.
of course big business was the dr. frankenstein of the third reich. they lost control of hitler. he did not play well with others. just like a certain chimperor.
Todd, it just boggles the mind, doesn't it? I think it's just a neocon talking point - "the Dems are the Hate party". Hate America, hate democracy, hate freedom, hate success, hate babies, blah blah blah...
I've noticed that most of their "arguments" come without a shred of evidence - hence, the "urban legend" sticker.
I hate war, not soldiers with integrity and honor. I hate fascism, not democracy. I hate oppression, not freedom. I hate predjudice, not opportunity.
There's the "liberal hate" machine at work.
I'd argue for Moonstruck as a great food movie: any movie where a seduction starts with a table getting thrown out of the way is ok by me. Plus, most major family events occur in the kitchen.
Also, Like Water for Chocolate.
WARNING:
If you live in California, please take note, every single place on the planet that tends to have earthquakes have been shaking like crazy for the last two months! Now some very odd places are shaking: just two hours ago, Tucson, Arizona had one! This is crazy.
There have been over 30 5-6+magnitude quakes in the Nicobar Islands in the last 24 hrs. This is a sign something very large is going to heave again.
Peru just had a series of 6+ earthquakes in the last three days and up the spine of South America to Central America, trembles and groans as the earth moves...NORTH.
Today, at the intersection of Arizona and California and Mexico, the earth trembled and shook...this is seperate from the Tucson quake...
This means the Pacific Plate is pressing very hard against the Americas plates and the San Andreas plate is being squeezed very hard.
Please take whatever precautions you can do if you live in the Rim of Fire regions. No one in any of these regions are safe right now, the earth is very active this month.
The 9+ earthquake isn't the end, it seems to be the middle of some deep seated process that is happening.
view of American casualties in Iraq is "screw 'em
Rumnsfeld doesn't sign the letters. Bush doesn't care about casulaties.
Bush cuts budget for VA.
Fuck off and die troll pig.
Ba'al has spoken.
9 1/2 Weeks had an interesting food scene...
Eating Raoul was a good show. I liked Chocolat, as well. I'm not much of a movie buff so I've missed thousands of great movies, I'd imagine.
I blame Bush - just cuz it feels so right.
Ripley,
yes, it's typical projection at work. "I know you are, but what am I!?" They hate so much, they can't believe anyone could operate differently.
agave,
I know what you mean. I remember one winter when I was poor and we had no more heating oil and it was freezing and I just thought winter would never end. I try to enjoy it now for what it is, but I often find myself saying, "Just have to make it through February; just have to make it through February...."
I often find myself saying, "Just have to make it through February; just have to make it through February...."
Hecate
Like where I live, only "April."
And Ba'al enters the fray... lol
Hail Ba'al, cuz it's easier to type than "Our gracious and loving Father who smites the unbelievers with his mighty sword of retribution and mercy, yet preserves my scalp but is apparently not doing much to keep the liberals off the internet not that I'm complaining but c'mon, Jeebus, I mean really!"
Hello, all. I slept the day away. Anybody else getting broken pic links for catblogging? Right-clicking and "View Image" gets me a page that says "Forbidden" in very large letters.
Yet Sore-Thumb Cheney down there appears in all his I-don't-give-a-shit glory.
Like where I live, only "April."
Here, too, although June can be a bitch.
My hubbie said he saw annuals at the hardware store yesterday.
Seems obscene.
Silleigh,
The kitties were there earlier today, but not for several hours. Those damn internets.
I find it incredible that people, who no longer live in Iraq, are voting-- smiling and happy--for a government that doesn't govern them--and that people who live in Iraq are scared to death to vote.
Silleigh,
No kitties for me either. But a pretty good Cheney joke at my blog, if I do say so myself.
I remember reading a story in some mag my folks had about a guy delivering heating oil one winter. He cleared the snow away from the inlet pipe and started pumping oil. After some time the owner ran out of the house, screaming. The delivery guy had been pumping the oil into the septic tank and it backflowed into the plumbing and was coming out the toilet.
Very possibly an urban legend but what a great laugh, nonetheless.
no such thing as "enough" firewood no matter how the winter goes
of course big business was the dr. frankenstein of the third reich. they lost control of hitler. he did not play well with others. just like a certain chimperor.
capio
I am not so sure anyone lost control of hitler -- perhaps they just chose to "bleed that corpse" dry (refering to Germany) and then moved on to bigger and better things -- laughing all the way to the bank. The connections between chimpy and hitler, considering family connections as documented in the Guardian, are more than a little disturbing...
Halliburton to Wind Down Operations in Iran
so nice of them to acknowledge their illegal acts, hmmm?
My hubbie said he saw annuals at the hardware store yesterday.
Pouring over the seed catalogs with those plant porn pictures is one of the things that gets me through the winter. I'm always sure that this year, I'll plant the absolutely best garden ever.
watertiger,
That is fucking obscene.
Yet Sore-Thumb Cheney down there appears in all his I-don't-give-a-shit glory.
He's not use to being uncomfortable, was never a soldier, never poor, never anything that would have influenced him to be better.
Having a gay daughter was probably a temporary blip on the screen. He even managed to avoid the issue while sending others into a hellish existence. And let's not forget the thousands of people who have died, so that he and georgie can achieve *glory*.
Quite a *man*, that Dick Cheney.
heh.
John Stossel is the biggest scum sucking pig/corporate whore on the planet.
Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.
Hecate,
We're more than doubling our garden this year. Consider it our Victory Garden. We just want to depend as little as possible on this economy.
And how's your night, Sue?
Halliburton to Wind Down Operations in Iran
so nice of them to acknowledge their illegal acts, hmmm?
watertiger
christ on a piss pot; it's fucking Milo in Catch 22...
NYMary -
That final scene in Moonstruck around the breakfast table is a classic of all time. "I need my family around me!" Heh.
well, then neither opinion bodes well. i get the feeling that the u.s. is being sucked dry by big business presently.
Hecate, White Flower Farm?
Heaven.
mer: It's the goddamnedest thing, really, to hear some Iraqi exile on NPR, all giddy about voting from Australia.
It's screwed in a way I can't describe- that someone who had the luck or the connections or whatever to get OUT of Iraq, however many years ago, gets the same vote as someone who's stuck it out all these years and has to decide "vote or die" or "not vote or die".
John Stossel is the biggest scum sucking pig/corporate whore on the planet.
Stossel's no Dick Go Fuck Yourelf™ Chenron, but, yeah, he is a whore only a whore could whore.
it's a free-for-all. let's get while the gettin' is good.
Ba'al wishes a truly happy evening for the non-Trolls, and a fulminating case of genital lice for Right1 and the other proto-Neanderthals with similarly diseased minds.
For those of you who appreciate these things, Ba'al wishes the kitties to return.
But, after this transient appearance, Ba'al must retire, to return again in the fullness of time.
We're more than doubling our garden this year. Consider it our Victory Garden. We just want to depend as little as possible on this economy.
NYMary
please do raddishes- mine won't mature; but i have a grim thumb
Halliburton to Wind Down Operations in Iran
so nice of them to acknowledge their illegal acts, hmmm?
Do you suppose they have just decided it will be better to get out now, only to return later with HUGE, NO-BID CONTRACTS later when we go to war against Iran?
It is insane to think that the the billions of dollars being thrown at the Iraq mess are being responsbily accounted for -- certainly "Go F@ck Yourself" Cheney's corporate cronies cannot account to large amounts of the cash they have managed to steal.
John Stossel is the biggest scum sucking pig/corporate whore on the planet.
Any particular event lead you to this declaration, Sue? Not that it doesn't work fine as a general rule of thumb.
Night, Ba'al, you cutie.
We're more than doubling our garden this year. Consider it our Victory Garden.
Dibs on the rhubarb!
Wait until China gets pissed at us, capio. Bush hasn't seen a "crisis" yet....
I'm giving serious thought to putting together my "head for the hills" gear. A rifle, ammo, freeze-dried food, the tent, sleeping bag, etc. (Thank god for the Boy Scout years) When BushCo finally wrecks this country, they can tow my car wherever the hell they want.
Oh, dreaming about the garden..
The catalogs (white flower farm!) are luscious, and work free. I have my priorities in order, after all: loafing comes first. Lucky for me I live in the most garden-friendly part of the country, IMHO. So it's doable enough to get a body off the couch.
NYMary-Stossel is on ABC explaining that outsourcing our jobs is good for the middle class because the crap that Walmart sells is, consequently, so cheap.
Hubby and I are screaming to the TV: so what if you don't have a fucking job?
Ach, the blood pressure.
mena,
When I lived in Florida, I had an 8' tall tomato plant. It didn't bear fruit that tall, of course, but I was curious to see how high it would gro.
grow, duh.
I love pretty plants and flowers and garden-fresh vegetables all that, but I am a disaster at gardening. Probably because I don't like the getting dirty part. I hate the heat and the bugs. I can never remember when to water and mulch and fertilize and--and--whatever else gardening entails. I don't even do my own yard work. That's what Abel and Enrique are for (well, that and the pleasing vistas they provide of tight jeans and damp shirts against firm young abs...).
Did it just get warm in here...?
NYMary, I saw that earlier -- love the caption. And that's some Grade-A cute babyness goin' on there.
In other news, most of you are probably too sane to still be mulling the Billie Miller issue, but in another trip back to the Daily Independent, I found this: Man left in coma after hit with bong, speaks out. "Hit" in this case refers to assault with a deadly bong.
I'm thinking of relocating to this Peyton Place of a town. Could be exciting, if the local paper's any indication.
We had a pen full of geese for a couple years. Tore it down, tilled it under and put in about a dozen tomato plants. Could not pull enough tomatoes off the vines they were so thick. { ah! } Tomatoes are lovely right off the vine, washed in a hose and sprinkled with salt.
Wow Mary, is that remotely common there? I grew up in So.Cal and we always grew tomatoes, along with a lot of other stuff, but nothing like 8'!
I have grown a 10' sunflower here in WA though. I was pretty proud of that.
Stossel is on ABC explaining that outsourcing our jobs is good for the middle class because the crap that Walmart sells is, consequently, so cheap.
That's pretty much the standard special pleading that's made on behalf of outscourcing jobs from wealthier to less wealthy countries.
What I find so annoying about Stossel -- apart from his spectacular whoring -- is his smug demeanor, by which he expresses his certainty not only that he knows more than his audience but also that he knows better than his audience.
Stossel is one arrogant, hateful fuck.
Sweet Sue,
Fair enough. I knew Stossel was a twit, but that's pretty spectacular, even for him.
OT: Glad to see Ba'al's making a comeback these days. Must be all those guest appearances on "Stargate SG-1."
HaloScan is drunk. I've refreshed, quit, refreshed again, and it still won't let me see Atrois's kitties. Damn.
Eli, Tampopo? Never heard of this one. Is this available on DVD or Video?
Sorry, my wireless network was drunk for a while there.
Tampopo appears to be *slightly* available on VHS & DVD. VHS looks like a better bet.
Ah, from Gannon to garden. I love you folks. Luckily my husband has a green thumb, and a garden is in the works for this year. Wish we could all pool our resourses.
But what if I don't shop at Wal-Mart?
Their stores disgust me.
Silleigh,
Just popped back in from dinner to see your post. Hahahaha. That is one wacked out town. Those *Billie* letters will be with me forever. I emailed those to my friends this morning and they all wondered if I got them from The Onion or something. The bong thing is going out in the next mailing. Whew!
mena,
Well, I had other plants to get fruit from. I think it was pretty common. Plants only die in Miami when the sun gets too inttense, so they'll pretty much grow nonstop. We had a mango tree of about 40' in our yard, but they only produce every other year. Herbs of all kinds did well, too.
Wish we could all pool our resourses.
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Does anyone else out there have subscription organic farming going on in their area, or is this a local phenom?
LJ - You don't shop at Wal-Mart?
What are you, some kind of terrorist-loving commie?
Bigvic -- heh. Eschaton's gonna put li'l Ridgecrest on the mother-cheneying MAP. My fantasy of TDS going out and doing an exposé of this tawdry town with all its dark secrets is picking up speed.
LJ - everyone I know who has ever set foot in a walmart says the same thing, including me. They are repulsive. I guess that makes me an elitist snob. Oh well.
But what if I don't shop at Wal-Mart?
Cheap goods generally are said to be available in the U.S. as a result of shipping jobs from the U.S. to countries that provide even fewer protections for worker and safeguards for the environment. Wal-Mart is the evil frontrunner.
Does anyone else out there have subscription organic farming going on in their area, or is this a local phenom?
There's at least one in Tampa I know of.
Jennifer:
This will sound silly, but Wal-Mart give me acute claustrophobia. Their aisles are always so narrow, and the stuff piled so high and haphazardly that I'm afraid of things falling on me! Not to mention that most of them are the filthiest stores I've ever seen.
They had mice running all over one Wal-Mart near where I lived. I'm terrified of mice. Get on the table dancing and screaming scared of them. And nowhere to go! Another time, I went shopping with a friend of mine who insisted on going there. She picked up a watermelon, and roaches--HUNDREDS of them!--came scurrying from beneath it. I fucking freaked, and left the store, right then.
Oh--and they don't have butchers for their meat department. The ONLY successful unionization within Wal-Mart came from a group of butchers (in Jacksonville, TX, of all places). So Wal-Mart got rid of all its butchers, rather than pay union wages and benefits.
Mena, thanks for the reminder. We do have subscription organic farming here. Gotta remember a name or two.
Hecate,
If you're still here, my best friend and I start salivating all over the Burpee catalogs this time every year. Bulb, annuals, seeds, you name it. We split orders with each other and plan grand gardens, but generally they look that way mostly in our minds. By the end of summer, it's always the same...well next year I'll get it right. Ha!
We don't have subscription organic farming, but our town makes free mulch and compost from the yard waste they collect. Folks just drive up, fill a few garbage bags, and head home.
Stossel is on ABC explaining that outsourcing our jobs is good for the middle class because the crap that Walmart sells is, consequently, so cheap.
To corrupt something I once saw on Slashdot...
"Thanks to outsourcing, I can buy more stuff at Wal-Mart at low prices with my unemployment cheque!"
Silleigh,
My fantasy of TDS going out and doing an exposé of this tawdry town with all its dark secrets is picking up speed.
Damn, you really should contact TDS. This would be even better than the vagina fest. Seriously, that bong thing had me LOL.
Dick Cheney just wore a "Staff 1939" beanie to Auschwitz.
I guess the gift shop was out of the press-on tattoo's.
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The ONLY successful unionization within Wal-Mart came from a group of butchers
Two Quebec Wal-Marts are now unionized.
Suck it, Walton.
This would be even better than the vagina fest.
Several seconds of head-shaking, then "oh, yeah, Cooter-Fest!" (I slept all day, li'l fuzzy.) At first I thought you were referring to a link here this morning about... AbsorbShun? Did you read that sucker?
The city composting is such a wonderful example of what a healthy community does. We have that here as well. The zoo here also packages and sells "zoodoo", exotic lion and baboon shit and such. I think this goes on all over. I haven't used it myself, but it's very popular.
NYMary,
That's the way it works here, too. The city mulches X-mas trees and gives away free mulch to anyone who can cart it away. Same with compost. The funny part is where you pick up your free compost. It is accross from the Zoo.
Silleigh,
AbsorbShun? Did you read that sucker? Nope. Do tell. BTW, the Cooter-Fest was a laugh riot. Loved it when the *reporter* asked the festival head if she (he?) could play with her Cooter.
LJ - I was just kidding. I refuse to go to Wal-Mart myself. My objections are all of those cited plus...Wal-Marts are full of really stupid (and usually fat) people who move so damn slow that it's impossible to get in and out, even for one item, in less than 30 or 45 minutes. It's like some damned Aisle of the Living
Dead all over the store. Haven't shopped in one in something like 6 or 7 years now, and never did go there that much. I tell people (and mean it) that I'd rather go to the dentist than Wal-Mart.
Okay, I'm back, tanned rested and
ready.
Did I miss anything?
By which I mean sort of inportant.
Oh, bigvic, if you loved Cooter Fest, you'll LOVE this. Be sure to click on the link within the post to check out the AbsorbShun site.
From World O' Crap. If it doesn't take you to the right place, scroll down 'til you see the "Filling A Niche. So To Speak" entry.
Honeybear Kelly posted it this morning, and I'm still agog.
Oh yes the White Flower Farm catalog. Sigh. The Wayside Gardens catalog's another. Yearn. Oh well. My garden looks good for about two weeks in June when the roses get out ahead of the fungus for a bit, and the rest of the year it looks kinda feeble. Looks good covered in snow right now, though.
You know, I wish people wouldn't trash "fat" people.
I'm 5'6" and 125 lbs, but I have a dear friend I have had for over 35 yrs who is what a lot of people would call "fat".
I gotta tell ya, I'll take her morality, her ethics, her decency, her humanity over so many thin people, it's just not funny.
(Nor does she eat at fast food places. She eats sensibly and well, and works out at a gym at least once a week w/ a personal trainer who helps her specifically w/respect to her two hip replacements.)
This is another divisive issue, another form of discrimination. And, it pisses me off.
SD
Wal-Marts are full of really stupid (and usually fat) people
I hate stupid fat hayseeds, lumbering from aisle to aisle with cartloads of processed food and knicknacks and cheap clothes. fat ugly poor people make me want to throw up. oh whoops did I say that out loud?
And, one more thing. Not everyone is intelligent. There are stupid people out there, but they're not all bad. Some - maybe lots! - of them are more compassionate, more decent than their thin, intelligent counterparts.
And there are plenty of thin, intelligent people I wouldn't cross the street to piss on if they were on fire.
SD
By which I mean sort of inportant.
Steve Simels
Nope, nothing inportant, steve...
Heh heh heh.
Paul,
Dick Cheney just wore a "Staff 1939" beanie to Auschwitz.
There was a whole thread on this earlier this afternoon. The Dick made quite a statement wearing a Staff 2001 knit cap, along with a hideous olive green parka and brown, casual slacks and outdoor boots to a somber occasion. His jacket even, quaintly, had his name stitched along the collar.
The pics are down, sadly, but it showed The Dick in all his "Fuck You Europe" mode.
One of my newest friends, a rather cute British girl, is overweight.
My ex-girlfriend, and still a good friend, was *dangerously* overweight. She's working on that, and I'm quite happy for her.
I'm thinner than I used to be, but the Paunch never dies.
So, I generally don't judge a person based upon their weight, though I do fear for the near-term health of people who are about as wide as they are tall. One of my relatives had a scare a few years back.
Totally OT. Read this article about my senior senator Dick Durbin -- it'll give you hope! Click homepage link.
I am always coughing up hairballs after eating out Bob. I don't mind excpt that it's embarrassing during a senate quorum call.
-Liddy Dole
Tampopo is available on amazon in wide screen DVD. See also Juzo Itami's Taxing Woman and Taxing Woman Returns, though not as good as Tampopo, with some of the same stars. Itami was shot by the Japanese Mafia because of his unflattering portrayal of them. He survived but sad to say apparently later committed suicide in his early sixties.
I see no kitties, but Cheney's there in technicolor glory for me. Unfortunately.
WalMart is evil, stay the hell out of there. They oppress working folks.
No amount of PR can spare them from their anti family, anti wage earner policies.
BTW, hopefully everyone's checked out Holden's prescient slapdowns of Mr. "Gannon" over the past year or so...
Sarah, yep, there are plenty of not-so-bright people out there with excellent hearts. And I've never been much of a fat-basher, but middle-aged spread, aging metabolism, and wack hormones have given me a whole new understanding of the issue.
Filkertom has mentioned this a couple of times and insists that he is huge. This stuff hurts good people, and if you've never had a weight problem or tried to empathize with large people, you can't imagine how hard it is throw off extra pounds.
So that was a very long "second" to what you wrote.
I'm just curious - why wasn't Condi at Auschwitz, being our new SoS and all... Or am I missing some piece of the larger picture that's only included in the RNC fundraising letter?
Why does hot and sour soup work so well as an enema?
-Liddy Dole
Silleigh,
Holy crap! Went to the "World o'Crap" link. Love that site, BTW, and damned near ruined a perfectly good adult diaper. Hell, I flat out ruined it. Boy Howdy, that was a riot.
How much you bet Gannon's on the payroll?
Mark Biakowski,
I have also known people who were "overweight" according to some table or another, who outlived fashionably thin folks.
A lot of this shit is genetic. We come in all shapes and sizes.
And a large part of it is the quality of food we eat.
So many - too many - people eat fast food. In many ways, it's cheaper than fixing one's own, more nutritious, meals, made at home. And people who work two or more jobs do what they can.
I don't have the stats, but people in the US have less and less time to take care of themselves and their families (Call it "Family Values"), so they rely on McDonald's, Taco Bell, etc. All heavily Repug contributers, by the way.
Those of us who are professional and semi-professional (present company included - I work in research at a teaching hospital) and who have relatively decent brains, prosper, or at least hold our own. (I'm holding my own rather than prospering! And I hope that continues.)
It is the responsibility of those of us with better brains to protect and care for the least among us. Not to criticise and marginalize them, IMHO.
bigvic -- the LiveJournal discussion linked from the World O' Crap article is not too bad, either.
Apparently this Purina Bacteria-Chow is like $35/bottle. You too can have vaginal abrasions for this low, low price! (Mane 'n Hoof cream to ease the pain not included. --*Mane 'n Hoof Cream*??? Why would THAT be someone's first choice to stick up her schtuff?)
Let's see how THIS pans out...
From the Talon "news" site:
MAJORITY OF IRAQIS LIKELY TO VOTE IN JAN. 30 ELECTIONS
Iraqis are likely to vote in their Jan. 30th elections, according to an International Republican Institute poll released yesterday. Over 80 percent of Iraqis polled are either very likely or somewhat likely to vote. Confidence that the balloting will be secret is high, with 70 percent very confident or somewhat confident in secrecy of the vote.
Close to 75 percent of Iraqis polled had received accurate official materials regarding voter registration , and more than 80 percent have read or heard about the elections in the media. Iraq will be prepared to hold elections, say nearly 75 percent of the respondents. Iraqis continue to be optimistic about the future of their country as they approach their first democratic elections.
Source: International Republican Institute
of course 89% expect to be blown up while voting...
OT but does anyone know how SS taxes work for companies that outsource? I'm assuming they're not paying SS on those wages, no? or.. yes? whichever is the proper trailing question for that statement...
Silleigh,
Thanks!!!
FLASH This just in! Alwari and U.S. backed party have swept Iraq elections with 98.2% of vote. The gave out a statement saying the U.S. should stay in Iraq forever..........What?............NOT YET! NOT YET!........................Nevermind.
How is it that they can conduct so many polls in Iraq lately? (Read: BushCo crapaganda) And if the polls are so accurate, couldn't they just hold the election via one of these polls?
Jeebus, George, lay off the CrapFest.
OT but does anyone know how SS taxes work for companies that outsource? I'm assuming they're not paying SS on those wages, no? or.. yes? whichever is the proper trailing question for that statement...
No, of course not, that's the whole point of off shore outsourcing. No SSA, no medical, reduced WC. reduced or no Unemployment, reduced OSHA type expenses.... all on top of reduced wages, etc.
Employee expenses are reduced from something like 32-35% of payroll to nearly nothing depending on the job receiving location.
I see where you're going. Keep going there.
www.jeffgannon.blogspot.com
Nothing - nothing! Is about size, gender, age, sexual preference. Nothing is about any "category" or box.
It's about human beings, in all their wonderfulness, all their horribleness.
We really are all the same.
At my age - 60* - I have learned that, and I embrace it.
I despise all who would cast any among us out of the circle for their differentness.
And, honestly, I'm tired of having to point it out. But, will continue to.
SD
Sarah, nope, thank you for mentioning it. It's kind of a mine field, fraught with very personal as well as societal implications (several of which you touched on).
We were talking about this at work last week. An artist who has worked in more mainstream advertising and publishing mentioned how relentlessly the photo spreads of people like Britney Spears are Photoshopped to remove entire sections of curve from their bodies. The brainwashing is hard to get around. I read an article somewhere years ago about the actress who played Tim Allen's wife on... whatever that sitcom was, her name was Patricia something, and the article talked about her "weight problem" -- which I'd never realized she "had" until reading the article.
I won't even go into the rant about what some people do to avoid gaining weight because of the way we manipulate public images.
I'm just curious - why wasn't Condi at Auschwitz, being our new SoS and all... Or am I missing some piece of the larger picture that's only included in the RNC fundraising letter?
I woke up this morning naked, hung over, and a parrot feather sticking out of my ass.
-Liddy Dole
I'm fat, and I'm neither stupid nor a Walmart shopper.
Objectifying people is a dangerous practice.
I'm just curious - why wasn't Condi at Auschwitz, being our new SoS and all... Or am I missing some piece of the larger picture that's only included in the RNC fundraising letter?
Clearly I shouldn't be up this late...
anyway....
As I said, before the tags ate it: Cheney said it was his turn. Said Condi can wear the parka and ski cap at the next official function in winter.
Well, hello, bebe. And it looks like Haloscan is toying with RMJ at the moment.
It seems we are in deep doo-doo if this is going to be the all-night, into-the-morning thread, with about 480 posts at the moment.
The Art of Bumfuckery:
An influential congressional committee has dropped a political bombshell by suggesting that a tax originally created to pay for the Spanish American War could be extended to all Internet and data connections this year.
Anyone for bartering bits?
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Here's a happy story: An Ohio state senator wants to regulate what professors can say in the classroom.
Professors are all "card-carrying communists," see.
Huzzah.
With pubic hair like kudzu, I am not an easy eat.
-Liddy Dole
Thanks, Kay, that's what I thought.
Now for the shameless blogwhoring. I haven't put too much time into the blog or decided on a "sound" yet, but I'd appreciate any feedback. The posts are just off the top of my head to see what I look like when I write.
Moose Lips
No, I have no idea where the name came from. I'm not looking for pats on the back (unless they're deserved) but could use some honest critique re: style, layout, etc. Thanks!
Just so I can pickup from where I left off earlier today...
The parka isn't a big deal. He has health issues related to the heart(or lack of) and circulation. He may have been having a bad day and dressed to match. Focus on his deeds not his attire.
Okay now that I have cast the die once again, please continue with the mild lambasting.
Bebe,
You never cease to amaze. I mean that in a good way.
Speech is never free, Q... oy
Moose Lips?
Mink Ships?
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Here's a happy story: An Ohio state senator wants to regulate what professors can say in the classroom.
That's it, Mr. Roboto. More Stepford children for the masses. What the hell is college for if not to learn, including about opinions that differ from your own. What dipshits. They don't know people are watching and getting more pissed off by the moment by their shenanigans. I guess they'll figure it out when they don't have a job by the end of the next election cycle.
Lol, Q Actually, it Did come from "loose lips". See what happens when you start a blog while drinking?
Speaking of drinking - Bush Lies !!
bebe is wunnerful, more please.
The Spanish-a-fucking-American-War????
Oh, good grief.
Where are OUR lawyers????
Aren't we smarter than these people?????
If not, we better give it up.
I have a mole on my left buttock that responds to Bob's kisses by taking the shape of a three-legged aardvark.
-Liddy Dole
Cheney's parka at Auschwitz is a deliberate slap in the face to his hosts and many others. If his clothing had been damaged or gone astray, all his protocol guy would have had to do was place a call ahead and buy appropriate off the rack clothing for a man of Cheney's build.
Not to mention, Monica - if these colleges are so "bad" because of their obvious liberal bias, how have they stayed in business all these years?
It's almost as though parents keep sending their children there, students keep attending and paying tuition and graduating. What manner of demonism is this???
What Pentimenti said.
Moose Lips. I like that.
The text reads well, Ripley. But it is 12.4%, not 13.4. But, otherwise, darn, you stole my favorite idea for getting fair compensation from outsourcing companies.
Make them pay 100% of the SS taxes that would have been paid to those workers in the US. Love it. Totally fair.
Mark:
Then only union in America. Unionizing in Canada doesn't really count for Wal-Mart, because Canada doesn't suck dick for them just because. And just you wait and see. W-M will find a way to boot those workers out, too.
And I wish people would stop knocking fat people around here, too. Some people just have the fat gene. Anyhoo,I see plenty of hideous skinny people going into Wal-Mart. And if you want the ultimate in how thinness isn't equal to decency or morality, I submit two names. Ready?
Ann Coulter
Michelle Magangbangalangaling.
That settles the matter.
Is it 12.4? I thought it was 6.7 x 2... but see what happens when we don't fact check first?
Hell, make em pay an extra 1% for outsourcing. Freedom Tax!
Coots lips
Snark snark
farts rip
snark snark
-Liddy Dole
I think it's 6.2% times 2 to a 12.4% total. But then I've had a drink (actually two - which is a big deal for me) tonight so double check me.
OK, what the hell--
Here's an imagined report by some high-powered consulting firm (e.g. Rand, AD Little, etc.) to GWB's Arab fundie dance partners:
http://tinyurl.com/6k6ra
One of the best not-ha-ha-funny sections:
"...there are indeed some well-informed commentators active in the United States. In terms of overall assessments we would point to Juan Cole (Informed Comment), in relation to al-Qaida there are people such as Bruce Hoffman (Rand-Washington) and in relation to Iraq there are many, but most notably Anthony Cordesman (CSIS). In their different ways, these and others are producing informed and largely accurate assessments.
The good news is that they are almost entirely ignored by opinion formers and decision-makers within the current Washington power-base..."
Propos to homie Fester for a good catch...
www.festersplace.blogspot.com
propos = props. Shit.
Nothing defines us but our heart.
Dear Lady Dole,
Having you stay at the Watergate was certainly an honor and we appreciate your business.
However, when management asked for a small memento of your stay that we could display for the public, we had in mind something such as a signed black and white photo of yourself. Stapling your panties to the bar piano with a post-it note saying "Eat me, Paris, you can't handle the cooch" was a bit, shall we say, misaligned with the overall ambience that we strive for at the Watergate.
Regards,
Management
P.S. - please find enclosed your memento, sans post-it.
Some people just have the fat gene.
Maybe you're right.
I've always been "fidgety."
This would explain why I've always been a whisper thin lad, despite eating and drinking whatever the hell I want. Truth be known, I gain a few pounds in the winter but revert to my "normal" weight of 165 by midsummer.
Same here, CS. My buddy would always say, "If you stuck your tongue out, you'd look like a zipper".
Ripley,
Anyon who steals a post name from Welcome Back, Kotter is okay by me.
And to answer your question about colleges: a lot depends on the student. I teach at two schools: one is a 4-year liberal arts school, the other a community college. At one, the students love to be challenged and I'm very popular. At the other, the vast majority are in job-training programs. There, I'm not so loved. Guess which is which?
Is it normal for one's nipples to leak santorum?
-Liddy Dole
Thanks, Mary - I was esp pleased with that title. And Let the Eagle Fry.... but I read something once that said writers are in love with words, esp their own. lol
I had a friend that attended Bob Jones U for a year and she said it was an absolute parade of freaks. College is about opening your mind, thinking about ideas and deciding who you are/want to be (at the time). New ideas? Oh no! Some people....
So when do we ship all the professionals and academics to the farms?
Bob usually falls asleep with one of my dildos in his mouth. He particularly likes the flavored ones.
-Liddy Dole
"Looks like you need some reNEDucation!"
The Simpsons
Is haloscan screwing up or have I just put a complete damper on the thread?
Ripley,
My 14 year old told me the other day she's been sitting down for the Pledge, by the way. No problem with that here in blue New York.
Isn't this "Internet Tax" thing an urban legend that has been circulating in emails for years?
Ek,
By Eschaton standards, we're having a mellow night. But you should look at my blog for a funny Cheney joke... not a critique, just a joke, promise.
Dick Cheney just wore a "Staff 1939" beanie to Auschwitz.
Umm, no, it was a "Staff 2001" beanie.
Max Vol,
Hey! The Records are in the studio again! Didja know?
Max, the USF on your phone bill was actually brought about to pay for the Spanish American Civil War and conveniently never repealed as telecomm grew.
There is a lot of state gov't bitching about the taxes they lose due to internet purchases. When I lived in MI, you were actually supposed to claim sales tax for mail order purchases form other states and I think they expanded it to internet sales but it may have been kicked down right away.
El, you put a damper on the trolls but we're still here. Hey did anyone hear about
BUSH LIES!!!!
Ek, also
NyMary
That is a cranky looking young'un there. Heh. But she has a point.
"
BUSH LIES!!!!
Ripley "
Are you saying he is a BS-ER? I don't see him on the membership list. An dI definitely do not remember sending off a card and members only guest towel to the white house.
Taxing all cellphone and data modules is a bad idea if your trying to get relected.Lets hope they try this little tasx hike because I dont think most people will stand for it.No matter what language they try to cover it up with.
And the Cheney dressing thing...I dont know if its been said yet,that parka looks to me like a military issue coat.Talk about snubbing your nose at the entire world?He was facing Americans and saying..I am Saddam now,but try and do something about it.Then turning around and telling the world that he and junior dont give one flying fuck what they think about them.They are going to rule with the world with an iron fist.
I sure do hate these fuckers.They're death cannot come fast enough for me.And to those SS snoopers...Fuck off.This handle gives me a right to privacy so ya'll fuck off too.
Well, heavens, we're all different, aren't we? Some larger, some smaller, some taller, some shorter, etc etc etc.
Some hetero, some bi, some homo. Some black, some beige, some...whatever.
None of these is better. All just - simply - are.
George W. Bush, in some universe or anotrher, would be backhanded and sent to the back of the class until he learned this very simply, very essential, lesson.
Next lifetime???
I'd still love for it to be now.
Thanks to you all, and so...to bed!!
Bush is hardly qualified to join the BS-ERs, but I've seen a shadowy figure lurking outside our meeting hall. It may be an ex-Cabinet member looking for free booze and donuts but we never know.
Smal, privacy is unAmerican now. Please report to the internets rehabilitation website and engage the process.
"I'm George Bush - and I approve this tyranny."
Great, just great, My cats have discovered popcorn.
I have no peace. They attacked my ice cream. They attack my yogurt. Now it is popcorn.
And they lie too.
They have an 8:30 pm treat. They know it, they have been trained to it. i whislte they all come running.
But then later, after an hour or so, they start the chirping and the tail dance, as if I had forgotten treat time.
Still, their ethics are heads and shoulders over Republican Politicians.
But damn, leave a man' popcorn alone...
I can't believe you adopted Republican cats from the shelter. That's so tolerant... hehehe
So I made the mistake of watching a bit of O'Reilly tonight and he was railing against Canadian television, and the Coulter/Canadians in Vietnam bit came up. Bill and his guest, conservative c-lister Rachael McMahon, went on and on about how Coulter was right, there were 10,000 canadians who served in Vietnam.
I thought that sounded strange, so I did some googling and found that yes, some Canadians did serve in 'Nam. As members of the US armed forces! But the Canadian military had nothing to do with it.
Conservative fuck-tards.
Jesus, my kingdom for a new thread! This one's like a full, wet vacuum cleaner bag.
Or is that me?
You'd think folks, esp Canadians, would remember 10,000 troops serving there. That would be what, 18 to 20% of the Americans we lost there - no small number.
But Big O and crew will now spin this as "they said no Canadians and there were 37 of them - we're right once again". Bet on it...
And wait, doesn't Canada suck? According to Fox (snicker) News?
No kidding, MX - I think we're on our own, though. Wait - I wrote Atrios' password somewhere here, hang on....
"I can't believe you adopted Republican cats from the shelter. That's so tolerant... hehehe
Ripley "
I was trying an experiment. The one with the Naderite Labrador went completely south on me.
This one's like a full, wet vacuum cleaner bag.
And it's drooling soggy dustbunnies.
I have been following this thread for hours and have just now caught up,and now you want to change it?
Who has big plans for the weekend?
Cats are fickle, thank god they can't vote.
not in bed yet...where have we gotten to that Rush and Coulter have any credence at all.
Probably a monumentally stupid question.
No kidding, MX - I think we're on our own, though. Wait - I wrote Atrios' password somewhere here, hang on....
Ripley
Christ, gimme that passw- *HEY WHOOPSIE*! Aw shit, now I spilled my Genesee Cream Ale on it and I can't read the damn thing... awww this goddam thread's gonna go ON and ON and ON now...
Lately it seems that volume=knowledge, Sarah. Oddly, Coulter started out as a civil liberties attorney. Who woulda thunk?
MX, once we get this far down no one will bother to read so we can talk about anything at all.
So uhhh... how's your penis?
But damn, leave a man' popcorn alone...
Yeah, I know. Mamma, my cat, scarfs my popcorn and my crackerjacks. I've learned to love her excess.
Has anyone heard from heard about how Atrios and The Panel went in NYC?
I have been following this thread for hours and have just now caught up,and now you want to change it?
smalfish
Hell, I've been checking in on this thread all day while I do some computer work and all I can say is this thread needs either a silver bullet in the brain or a huge influx of cash and cocaine to keep going...
Or is that me? I can't remember very much anymore...
Been thinking. the bill to limit a professor's opinion, all the efforts to limit free speech. It is obvious these people fear knowledge. Nothing new there. I suspect the Internet is one of their biggest frustrations. For all their good work, I doubt the free range of this medium is something they can grasp well enough to control. The back channel is virtually uncontrollable without implmenting Draconian measures. This is similar to a situation I had once. We had an office cadre that attempted to control everything including the spoken word. They spun their failures wonderfully. However, (my revenge), we replaced our main systems with a package that not only enabled everyone to tap into information, but required it to be done to get the job done. A given department not doing their job would show up like a beacon in the night. The only way they would have been able to beat it was to shut down the system. They tried to short stop its implementation, they tried to corrupt the data, they tried to stop the training, they tried everything. But they couldn't do it, they would have to explain to the powers that be why it was not advisable to use the 1/2 million wonder child. It assisted in their eventual demise. Just a thought process. Hell even Harry Potter is scary to these people, it gets kids interested in reading. Horrors.
So uhhh... how's your penis?
And Nute turns around al sees the monster in the room with them both and screams .....RIIIIPPPPLLLLEEEEEEYYY!
I'll take the cash
One heard. Lousy typing.
Sorry. The sentence should have been... has anyone heard about how Atrios and the panel... etc.
"Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events but we're gettin our asses kicked here. Game over, man, game over!"
Ripley
Huh?
"Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events but we're gettin our asses kicked here. Game over, man, game over!"
Best.
Horror.
Movie.
Ever!
MX, once we get this far down no one will bother to read so we can talk about anything at all.
So uhhh... how's your penis?
Ripley
Ummmm...
Lemme check...
LOOKIN' GOOD!
Heh heh heh.
Aliens?
Aliens?
Yep,saw that one when it first came out and never turn the channel when it comes on to this day.I liked Aliens better than Alien.It was a trip.
Its after midnight, I am hanging in the thread, the cat is stealing popcorn, I have flue I think and these two jokers are pulling mutual shortarm inspections.
Yeah, this is living life large.
"Americans need to understand that the internets were created to keep Iraq free and.. what? no, I'm talkin bout Iraq and democracy here, Karl... and when freedom lights the fire in the... huh? America and moving forward, Karl, what else would I be talking about? the internets? I wasn't talking about the internets, Karl, I think I'd know, duh... and so, America, we need to look forward, so that the people of Syria can.. what? no, I said Iraq, Karl, damn who's giving this speech?"
"I'm George Bush - and I approved this clusterfuck."
Ripley -
Not "game over" but "tilt".
We're playing again. Fresh. Clean. Fair start. Dump the luggage. Come up with a good defense and a great new idea.
Best. Horror. Movie. Ever!
smalfish
What, Phantasm?
Or Triumph of the Will?
Flu bad - cats and popcorn good. Bush really bad.
The intenets were invented because of particle physics....Just a little known factoid.Where would we be without particle physics?
I thought the internets was a collaboration between Bush and Jeebus.
Yeah, this is living life large.
EkCenTriK
Oh, shut up and pass the freakin' popcorn! And don't cough on it if you have the flu... I gotta work tomorrow.
MisterX
The popcorn has some felinical spit on it. Thats not a problem right?
Sometimes you just miss the trolls, though, don't ya?
I thought the internets was a collaboration between Bush and Jeebus.
No,they're just in a conspiracy to limit free speech on the internets.They never claimed to invent it....unlike some one we all know and love.
"Where would we be without particle physics?"
A very loose association of pure energy?
Best horror movie ever?
Not a good movie, but ...my answer:
"When A Stranger Calls"
The intenets were invented because of particle physics....Just a little known factoid.Where would we be without particle physics?
smalfish
Yeah, and computers were an outgrowth of "Torpedo Data Computers" that were on submarines in the Second World War...
And why the Hell is Fidel Castro chugging on a huge spliff on the right side of my screen?
Hmm as a pure horror movie I was always fond of "Ghost Story".
Best horror movie ever?
The orginal Dutch version of "The Vanishing".
My buddies and I saw Aliens in the theater. At the scene where the little girl is in the room and the baby alien pops up, my buddy jumped up and broke the armrest off the seat. We took it home, intending to make a plaque with it.
"Yeah, and computers were an outgrowth of "Torpedo Data Computers" that were on submarines in the Second World War.."
I thought it was ballistic computations from WW II.
The popcorn has some felinical spit on it. Thats not a problem right?
EkCenTriK
I'll tolerate Kitty Spit™ over Puppy Drool™ any day.
"Yeah, and computers were an outgrowth of "Torpedo Data Computers" that were on submarines in the Second World War.."
I thought they wer a creation of Plato?Or who ever that genus was that lived in the Greek era.You know...The one who drew up the helicopter?Anyway ,wasnt he the one who came up with the concept?
Ripley
When we went to Alien, the scene with Ripley lounging, feet up on the bridge is memorable. We had a trio of tough chicks in front of us that were yakking and being a pain. They were making fun of her tennis shoes when the scene switched to the first attack. They gasped and shrieked and were silent for the remainder of the flick.
Kitty Spit, the porn actress?
Leonardo DaPlato?
I thought it was ballistic computations from WW II.
EkCenTriK
That too... imagine carrying fat volumes of artillery tables into combat...
That too... imagine carrying fat volumes of artillery tables into combat
Hello, Wolfgang? It's umm.. Adolph here... Just wondering it you were still at coordinates X and Y? Yes? (Set guns to X and Y!) Ok, thank you, Wolfie, bye bye.
Internets. Seattle 1983.
Coffee. Seattle 1993.
Unjustifiable death. Iraq 2003.
2013 End of the world as we know it.
Kitty Spit, the porn actress?
Ripley
You're thinking of Kitty Swallow.
Lmao MX Touche
Best horror movie ever?
Diabolique.
I know I am late to this, but the WH insists on printing a female reporter's married surname on their credentials whether they like it or not?
What kind of patriarchal bullshit is that???
Why don't they just fucking refer to them as Mrs (husband's name)?????
Fucking psycho fundies. Fuck them all.
"Girl reporters are just do darned cute, with their pencils and their questions. It's so darling the way they act like real grownup reporters."
"I'm George Bush - and I approved this misogynism"
Ripley, I like what you do and I just want to know...
How old are you?
I'm 38, Kay - can I get that compliment in writing? Wait..hmm..oh hell, nevermind...
More Bobo's world,
New Governor Trashes Union Rights of Indiana State Workers
Heres the money shot..
On January 11, Daniels, a Republican and former Bush administration official, unilaterally eliminated the unionization rights and contracts of approximately 25,000 state employees, effectively shredding agreements that were set to last as late as 2007. Although Daniels' election campaign platform had addressed issues affecting state employees in detail, it made no note of any intention to drastically alter labor arrangements for some two-thirds of the state's government workforce.
SO I guess it's ok to do whatever the fuck you want when you get elected to a republican post,eh?
The unmitigated gall of these people never stops flooring me.
Smal, drink the kool-aid and repeat after America... mandate, mandate, mandate
Best horror movie ever?
OK, help me out here.
When I was a wee lad, I saw this old BxW flick that scared the Holy Fuck out of me, and I have no clue what the hell it was.
One scene had a woman sitting alone in a room as a rope snakes its way through the window and wraps around her ankles. The woman is frozen in her chair as she looks out the window, watching a woman hung by the same rope slowly rise up to the level of the window.
Anybody?
Best horror movie? I don't know. But I do know that Hitchcock's "Shadow of a Doubt", starring the incredible Joseph Cotton, is chilling as all get-out. Here's widow-killer Uncle Charlie's speech to his namesake, little innocent adoring niece Charlie, who has just realized what Uncle Charlie might be (is he really?)... imagine this being said to a mid-teenage girl in the 1940s, by an apparently nice, mild-mannered father figure...
"You think you know something, don't you? You think you're the clever little girl who knows something. There's so much you don't know, so much. What do you know, really? You're just an ordinary little girl, living in an ordinary little town. You wake up every morning of your life and you know perfectly well that there's nothing in the world to trouble you. You go through your ordinary little day, and at night you sleep your untroubled ordinary little sleep, filled with peaceful stupid dreams. And I brought you nightmares. Or did I? Or was it a silly, inexpert little lie? You live in a dream. You're a sleepwalker, blind. How do you know what the world is like? Do you know the world is a foul sty? Do you know, if you rip off the fronts of houses, you'd find swine? The world's a hell. What does it matter what happens in it? Wake up, Charlie. Use your wits. Learn something."
Yikes.
FOr the sheer stark terror check out The Ring.That scene where the little girl comes crawling out of the television just made my skin crawl,and I dont usually get too freaked out by movie scenes.
You're freaking me out, guys. Did you plan those comments to show at the same time?
38 is very cool. You've survived much already. And you're definitely doing the things that need to be done.
It gets better. I didn't even have my only child until I was 43.
Heck, Ripley... if 38 is a compliment than my 38+10+? must be worth an major award somewhere.
I didn't mean anything before it's just that I knew I'd gotten your age wrong earlier when I'd thought 20-something. I was just trying to place your perspective..
I hope I'm not offending.
Anybody?
Central Scrutinizer
Yeesh! Nope, doesn't ring any bells... though it does remind me of a weirdass movie that I was haunted as a youth by called "Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte"...
Shit, now I'm remembering "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?"...
GAAAAH!
Oh come on now, Bush couldn't say mysoginism unless he were trying to say something else, like " I miss Shirly Chisolm" or something.
Oh come on now, Bush couldn't say mysoginism unless he were trying to say something else, like " I miss Shirly Chisolm" or something.
catalexis
That's pretty freaking funny.
And sad, too.
Well, Morpheus beckons... goodnight, all.
Well, Morpheus beckons... goodnight, all.
My sentiments as well.
Good night john Boy.Good night Mary Ellen.
No offense at all, Kay I just hope that fabled wisdom stars catching up to my age. lol
Oh... creep me out now. Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?
The "roasted rat meal" to top all gross scary scenes ever.
Not the scariest movie but definitely one of the weirdest. Suddenly, I miss Bette Davis. We don't have stars like her anymore.
Fabled wisdom lags behind.
But, I think it does catch up. My mother is becoming utterly brilliant at 70-something.
I know for a fact she was not terribly smart when I was 19.
"When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."
Mark Twain
Ripley, you're on a roll!!!
So is Ek.
Horror movie?ot frightening, but of an old, old genre: Dr Terror's House of Horrors. I think it was a Hammer film w/.Peters Cushing and Lee. Anyway, loved it. Even had a creeping hand!!!
Had the young and delectable Donald Sutherland as a vampire.
So, another good one was the Bad Boys w/Kiefer.
Scariest was Alien.
Though, honestly, Exorcist, in the threater, for the first time, was good.
I can;t do slasher/chainsaw movies......
Insomnia. Dammit.
This thread must die.
G'night y'all.
Have fun.
Woot, this thread is all we have. And we're being super good, what with no trolls to berate.
Perfectly said. I knew there was a quote. Thank you, Central S.
I'll re-read the novels soon but now I'm going to bed with "Letters from the Earth".
surfdork, become "born again" your past will be forgiven. it worked for jeebus w bush.
and 5th estate is on cbc - not ctv
just sayin...
Spanish American War
When I was a little kid about 50 years ago in our apartment building there were these two elderly amputee men always being pushed around in their wheelchairs by nurses. It was my understanding that they were Spanish American War Veterans that had lost their legs in the war. It's really a pity that we can't end this cycle.
So, the same presstitutes that had their undies all bunched up because Atrios uses a pseudonym are allowing a GOP fake reporter to use a fake name in their midst?
As the Daily Show reported, his real name is Right-Wing Hackenstein.
IOKIYAR
The bill to limit academic freedom of speech (Larry A. Mumper’s "academic bill of rights for higher education") is actually a propos, since Gannon is an official in the (hilariously titled) "Free Speech Foundation" that is dedicated to increasing campus conservative voices. Or, to put it another way, Lynne Cheney is married to Dick Cheney.
His real name is Henry Porter.
Okay, what name did he previously commit a felony under? Why is the White House abetting a person most likely a fraud suspect?
Only other case to be made would be a CIA-School of the Americas advisor kind of guy...
What is his freep name? He links as an attributable to Drudge anyone?
He blogs? Is he a noted font kerning authorit-eye? Has he made any appearances on CSpam?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Atrios, what do your sources say his real name is?
Hey, all found your tid-bit on Liberty Post. Thought you might be interested:
[url=http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/
1093819/posts]Federal Grand Jury Could Subpoena Talon News Correspondent (and RighTalk host) Jeff Gannon[/url]...you might like my back and forth with him/ me=JohnGalt.
Hmmm...well try this:
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