I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

Gravatarfrist?


GravatarIt's election day in iraq. Wonder who's winning.


Gravatarhey hey hey


GravatarWho wants more whiskey sours?


GravatarHas it started yet officially, semper fubar? My time zone information is lacking.


GravatarSemper Fubar, haven't you heard? We lost.


GravatarI got a tray of rumaki coming out of the oven any minute.


Gravatarwell, I guess it's still early there - 4:30 am or so??

But I imagne the winner has already been "chosen."


Gravatar"It's election day in iraq. Wonder who's winning." - semper fubar -

We are semper, we are.


Gravatarhey haloscan ate my snark


GravatarCognitive dissonance alert:
To start an entirely new topic - I was listening to AAR today and they were running an ad for Barrons! WTF is that about??

Wingnut Central (Wall Street Chapter) has figured out that we - the few, the proud, the 49% - actually have some disposable income to our names?


GravatarHighly unamusing for a Saturday night, but why isn't anybody raising hell about the six BILLION dollars Bush is laying out for 23 personal helicopters?


GravatarHey, it's also the anniversary of Tet! Coincidence I guess.


GravatarWho wants more whiskey sours?

Ever throw up after drinking too many of those?

It'll put you off for life.


GravatarFifteen minutes later
We had our first taste of whiskey
There was uncles giving lectures
On ancient Irish history
The men all started telling jokes
And the women they got frisky
By five o’clock in the evening
Every bastard there was piskey


Gravatarmaybe that's what's up with haloscan - maybe too much sarcasm hurts it - in my house, we call sarcasm the gift that keeps on giving.


Gravatarhey haloscan ate my snark


MMMmmm...ssssnark.....me love sssssnark...


GravatarI heard that millions of potential voters were excluded due to work by a private company hired by the Florida secretary of state.


GravatarI was watching "Born on the 4th of July" earlier this evening (possibly the only decent Tom Cruise movie) and they were running USMC recruitment commercials on it. WTF???


GravatarThere's Whiskey in the Jar?


GravatarWho wants more whiskey sours?

Ever throw up after drinking too many of those?

It'll put you off for life.


On y 20th birthday a friend tried to get me to drink 20 shots of tequila. I actually came reasonably close (I think).

The next morning I tried to hydrate myself by drinking grape juice. It didn't work.

Ever puked purple?


Gravatarand the next proxy vote goes to ...

IYAD ALLAWI!!!!

Hooray!!!


GravatarJust caught a second of a Fox nescast, yes I s till watch for the humor or it all, and behind the newsperson reporting was a sign which his head partially blocked out. The message left visible from behind his rather large head was "come voters", which I took to be "welcome voters" in it's entire. But the propaganda was still there. Down the the very angles of camera play.

Pay a visit over at "Hairy Fishnuts", Google it up, for his take on reactions should things go off without a hitch, or fail miserably.

Or you could go read "SHAMELESS PLUG", and decide for yourselves.


Gravatar
This
puts the whole payola scandal in the right context:

Bush payola scandal deepens as third columnist admits being paid

Saturday, January 29
By Suzanne Goldenberg, The Guardian

The Bush administration was confronted with fresh evidence of a far-reaching clandestine campaign to influence public opinion yesterday after a third conservative commentator admitted receiving payments for championing its policies.


GravatarBack soon. Herb calls...


GravatarWhiskey sour makes me paranoid.


GravatarMMMM-haaah. Love that new-thread smell.


GravatarYou and Kos are two major reasons the Democrats are in the place they are right now.

How about turning off all the hate, all the sarcasm, all the BS, and actually listen to what he has to say.

I was at the inauguration protest in SF, and there were people openly supporting the intifida against Isreal, openly supporting the terrorists in Iraq, and openly supporting even North Vietnam after all these years.

Listening to Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, Michael Moore, et all is just a reflection of how far off the rails this party has become. I have volunteered my time and money for almost 10 years with education and youth athletics. I have been involved in the environment and mildly in policics.

Honestly take a look in the mirror. I voted for Clinton twice, but this is not the same party anymore. I am not going to cheer Kos on when he says "screw them" to the deaths of Americans in Iraq. I am not going to listen to Barbara Boxer call out a Bay Area resident as being a liar, only to lie twice about the war resolution and the numbers of Californians who died in Iraq. I am not going to listen to Ted Kennedy say the war is lost, when the biggest day in Iraqi history is tomorrow. A day when they will finally get to vote after 30 years of a muderous dictatorship whose horros have been all but forgotten by the left and the media.

Wake up.


GravatarFreep this article on Barbara Boxer on Yahoo. It's pitifully low right now.


GravatarThers, I puked up blue motorcycles in a Denny's once. Doesn't leave you with much of an appetite for a Denver omelette.


GravatarEver play the drinking game "Bishop"? I tried to become a bishop once. 17 times. On gin and tonic.

That was over 20 years ago--I still can't even *smell* gin without my throat closing.


Gravatarnothsylvania - when you got 100 B$ for an anti-missile system that doesn't work, 6 B$ for a few copters that do seems like a bargain.
- Generals gathered in their masses...


GravatarSam Peckinpah's Convoy is on tonite. Hopefully they'll play the song.


GravatarOh Christ!! He followed us.....


GravatarSorry wrong thread.


Jeez, I shoould get a mac like the rest of you wankers so I wont make those kind of mistakes.

LOL!

(windows xp running on a home built rig)


GravatarClean Sheets.

Oh I see we've got troll skid marks on them already!


GravatarAnonymous -- projection doesn't become you:

Honestly take a look in the mirror. I voted for Clinton twice, but this is not the same party anymore. I am not going to cheer Kos on when he says "screw them" to the deaths of Americans in Iraq. I am not going to listen to Barbara Boxer call out a Bay Area resident as being a liar, only to lie twice about the war resolution and the numbers of Californians who died in Iraq. I am not going to listen to Ted Kennedy say the war is lost, when the biggest day in Iraqi history is tomorrow. A day when they will finally get to vote after 30 years of a muderous dictatorship whose horros have been all but forgotten by the left and the media.

Wake up.


Gravatar... ummm... I run WinXP on a home-built rig, and I know what thread I'm on.

Isn't that right, Oliver?


GravatarBye.....ya'll don't come back now - y'hear?


Gravatar... Holden?


GravatarWake up ! It's mourning in America!


GravatarFor fucking baby Jeebus' sake, Anon... you're embarrassing America. Yes, you are making America cry because you're a very, very bad citizen and you hate democracy and the American way of life.


GravatarWonkette?

Glenn?

Sully?

C'mon, you guys, this isn't funny anymore! Turn on the lights!

Guys?






Guys?






I'm gonna tell Mom....


Gravatar"Who wants more whiskey sours?"

Yes please. And some of that rumaki would be nice too, for Arthur.


GravatarHee Haw is on every Saturday night.


GravatarOh I see we've got troll skid marks on them already!

eeeeewwwwwWWWWW. Now I have to go bleach my monitor....


GravatarI posted this earlier, but I'm still freaked out.

Hey, guess what!

I was at McDonald's with a friend--one of the few places you can take children and let them run in the winter--and the older son of my friend came in and tossed a Chick Tract on the table. "Where did you get that?" I asked. "This little kid gave it to me. His mom's got a whole pile of them on the table. He's giving them to everyone." This one, called Titanic, happened to not contain any anti-Catholic or anti-Muslim propaganda (the plot was about hubris and the smiting of God). But still.

I went to the manager, a large pimply fellow, and explained that someone was handing out propaganda in his store. I pointed her out, and he said he'd deal with it. Not only did he not deal with it, he mocked me to his employees after I left the counter.

Wow.


GravatarIgnore an0nymous- it's posting the same comment all over the blogosphere, hijacking threads all over the place. Starve it, and it will go away.


GravatarThat was over 20 years ago--I still can't even *smell* gin without my throat closing.

I'm done with tequila and wild turkey going on 25 years for similarly reasons.

Hell, I can't even look at a bottle of wild turkey without feeling slightly nauseous.


GravatarMuch of my understanding of the republican party has come from having the sputum of a Frist, Strom, or Bush dribble from my lips.
-Liddy Dole


GravatarWonkette?

Glenn?

Sully?


John Boy?

Chief?

McCloud!


GravatarLiberal Hawk--but,but, it's my money. Oh, wait, it's the kids' money. Never mind.


GravatarMaaatloooooock!!


Gravatar"...openly supporting even North Vietnam after all these years."

I didn't know there was still a North Vietnam - I'd heard that it was just plain Vietnam now. Who were these protesters still stuck in 1975? Why are you giving them credence and associating them with the rest of us?
As for Moore - he films editorials - It's a free country so good for bloody him! If the media had done it's job pre-Iraq war, everything Moore put in his movie would have been old news and it would not have made 200 m$ And by the by, he was fucking right about the stupidity of invading Iraq, so fuck off! you are not needed or wanted here - as for Ted and Barbara, they are patriots - read the fucking constitution asswad -
There was no sarcasm there - make you feel better?


GravatarHey, WTF is going on with the investigation of the Valerie Plame affair? How come the FBI haven't made one single arrest after all this time?

Isn't it about time for them to slam No-facts' ass in jail until he coughs up the name of the Bushco slimebag who leaked Plame's name?

Just sayin'.


GravatarI can't drink gin. Allergic to juniper = allergic to gin. One drink, and I'm sick for days.

Whiskey--Never again. Never. Once drank an obscene amount of Jack Daniels. I don't EVEN like thinking about what people told me I did during the blackout. And the hangover....

Same thing with rum. It's a wonder I'm not dead from the 151 Bacardi night. Worst hangover ever. If someone had sneezed in Duluth, my hair would have hurt.

So I stick with tequila and vodka. I can drink as much as I want, and not have a hangover in the morning. Win-win!


Gravatarliberal hawk- DO NOT ENGAGE! DO NOT ENGAGE! DO NOT ENGAGE!

Sorry for the shouting.


GravatarA Voice From Beyond

the late Susan Sonntag, an address to the Lannam Foundation last year, in Santa Fe...She was a formidable woman...we're always poorer for the loss of one of those...


Gravatar"If you had your way, Saddam would still be in power." Yes, if I had my way, Saddam would probably still be in power. And ten thousand American families would not be suffering. That's an easy call."

- Max said that today - pity no major Dem had the cojones to stand up and say the same -


GravatarWonkette?

Glenn?

Sully?

John Boy?

Chief?

McCloud!
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 8:43 pm


Fred?

Velma?

Scooby-Doo? Where are you?


GravatarNYMary - worth a call to the MacDonald's -owner- to get the 'manager' fired. Mocking customers? No, no, no, no. They might go to Whatataco instead.

Oh, and always remember to carry a small quantity of roofing nails with you for the drive-thru. They should freeze particularly well. (Whaaaat a frieeeend we have in Chuuuuuuuyyyyy....)


GravatarI puked up blue motorcycles in a Denny's once. Doesn't leave you with much of an appetite for a Denver omelette.

We used to do a weekly brunch at Denny's on US 1 in South Miami. Until one week we noticed that the same smeared cockroach that was on the wall the previous week was still there the next.

Then we started going somewhere else.


GravatarThere's a bball game starting on WGN (Chicago), and before the game they swore in a bunch of guys who had joined the military.

I don't watch sports at all, is this typical?


GravatarNighty night, kids: CIA Rebuffs Congress on Nazi Files


GravatarSempar fubar:
I think the troll's gone back to the last thread. There are still some unlucky folks there talking to him.


Gravatarsorry for getting all hot and testy - I should know better -


GravatarIn Soonerland, it is Dr. Pepper and vodka, but this thread seems bizarre anyway!


GravatarWhiskey--Never again. Never. Once drank an obscene amount of Jack Daniels. I don't EVEN like thinking about what people told me I did during the blackout. And the hangover....

JD is NOT whiskey.


GravatarIf everyone would either shut up or just agree that I'm right, freedom and democracy would flourish both here and in Iraq.

Whoever said "sticks and stones can break my bones but words will never hurt me" didn't know WTF he was talking about. Words are dangerous, especially if they are words of disagreement with Dear Leader. Anyone who publicly disagrees with Dear Leader is a traitor, a criminal, and should be punished. Otherwise, we can't be free to worship Our Leader in eternal gratitude.


Gravatarflory, "when will they ever learn?"

and swearing in guys to the military at a bball game? That is SICK.


GravatarZowie, I'd never heard of Chick Tracts--I had to google it. That's very creepy. And yes, complain to someone about the idiot manager. Get him fired for being an asshole.


GravatarGWPDA,
I wrote to the corporate office. Here's the bot reply:
Thank you for your feedback regarding your restaurant experience at McDonald's. We value your comments and will be responding to you soon. Thanks again for contacting us.

Replies to this e-mail cannot be received. Please feel free to contact us through mcdonalds.com. Thank you.


GravatarAnyone who publicly disagrees with Dear Leader is a traitor, a criminal, and should be punished. Otherwise, we can't be free to worship Our Leader in eternal gratitude.
An0nymous


Now that's a troll we can all love!


GravatarSounds like you all may want to visit Modern Drunkard Magazine. They'll help you maxmize your (and my) favorite hobby!


GravatarIf everyone would either shut up or just agree that I'm right, freedom and democracy would flourish both here and in Iraq.

And I thought the people who don't watch the game on TV because their team will lose had power fantasies....


GravatarWe used to do a weekly brunch at Denny's on US 1 in South Miami. Until one week we noticed that the same smeared cockroach that was on the wall the previous week was still there the next.

Thanks, Thers, for that lovely memory. I'd all but forgotten that.


GravatarJD is NOT whiskey.
Thersites

Burboun?

.


GravatarHmm. This is comforting: Bill Gates Bets Billions On Buck Going Bust


GravatarAgave, it's Freedom Whiskey - geez, get your AmericaSpeak straight.


GravatarMake that last post by leftsooner. I am not typing responsibly.


GravatarKennedy is courageous and Reynolds insults him, questions his patriotism. What the fuck is wrong with these people. McNamara wrote Johnson a memo in 1967 saying the Vietnam war was essentially lost, and they kept fighting for what another 6 years? People died because politicians were cowards. Why does Reynolds hate our soldiers, why does he want them to die and get maimed. Why is the worship of the neocons more important than our American soldiers.


GravatarGWPDA,

Any of those cookies left?


GravatarNYMary - me, I'd try the local Chamber of Commerce for the owner's name and, oh, home phone number and address. You live in a very, very, wee, tiny, small town, after all. Better Business Bureau will know too. Nothing says shame better than saying in person.... Remember, never buy anywhere that you can't ultimately get your hands around the owner's neck.


GravatarBecause Bush says so, Hoyt


GravatarBREAKING NEWS!!!!

The administration has just announced its replacement for Education Secretary Rod Paige:

Jack Chick.

"It's an inspired choice," said columnist Peggy Noonan from beneath the dolphin that was fucking her. "After all, they both have only two syllables in their names. Clerly, we can see the hand of God at work. Harder, Flipper, HARDER!"


Gravatarand swearing in guys to the military at a bball game? That is SICK.

Oh goody.

I wonder what the military and the NFL are going to do for the Stupor Bowl:

1. Bush parachutes in to the center of the stadium with Cheney's Fargo outfit?

2. Branson-ize the halftime show (sponsored by Levitra: "Although rare, if you have an erection lasting more than four hours...")?

3. The cermonial first kick using Rush Limbaugh as the football (complete with ABC/ESPN/Disney logo on his face)?


GravatarAgave, it's Freedom Whiskey - geez, get your AmericaSpeak straight.
Ripley

The French make Wiskey?
I'm confused

.


GravatarYes, I know the Super Bowl's on Fox. Which is scarier yet.


GravatarI was just snarking, agave.


GravatarWatched Saved last night on DVD, having been unwilling to pay $7 to see it in the theatre. Pretty scary. They don't really indoctrinate teenagers like that, do they?


GravatarCookies? Funny you should ask, Hecate. There are, in fact, something along the lines of six dozen of my lovelies now in the deep freeze. In addition to the half dozen waiting for me bedside, out of Arthur's reach. I also happen to have an extremely good packing container at hand, if you're interested.


GravatarThen we started going somewhere else.
Thersites


I gave up on Denny's when I saw the little pair of antennae waving at me from the other side of the "Specials" menu.

Before that, though, we had an amusing experience with a flasher at one of them.. amazing sights to see there at 2:30 A.M.
-


GravatarJack Chick Chic Tract

What's the chances?

.


GravatarWhiskey--Never again. Never. Once drank an obscene amount of Jack Daniels. I don't EVEN like thinking about what people told me I did during the blackout. And the hangover....

JD is NOT whiskey.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 8:49 pm


That settles it. We ever have a meet-up I can get to, I'm bringing the Tully. The real good stuff. I don't even drink, and I like this.


GravatarYou bet your sweet ass they do, Hecate. I was around a lot of them in Grand Rapids - ever wonder why Vicki hates that town?

"What are you doing, Billy?" "Going to the bathroom" "What???" "I mean, taking a leak for Jeebus, Dad" "That's better"


GravatarThere's a bball game starting on WGN (Chicago), and before the game they swore in a bunch of guys who had joined the military.

I don't watch sports at all, is this typical?
Central Scrutinizer | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 8:47 pm


No shit! And to think I have the bulls game on downstairs. But no, this isn't common at sports events. Occasionally they'll show the color guard, but an actual swearing in is unheard of (and I watch a lot of sports). I get bad vibes about the upcoming year.

We're prolly the only nation in the world that cheers when fighter jets scream overhead.


GravatarMcCloud!

Sam McCloud? Dennis Weaver? I LOVED him as McCloud! Mmmmmmm McCloud.


GravatarWhite russians. I will never drink white russians after that incident with the backhoe.


GravatarFor those unfamiliar with Chick Tracts:

http://tinyurl.com/ceud


Gravatar3. The cermonial first kick using Rush Limbaugh as the football

No way. How's the kicker supposed to aim a gasbag?


GravatarJack Chick Chic Tract

Eat them up, yum.


GravatarI was just snarking, agave.
Ripley

I saw that
I was trying to be funny, dammit.

.


GravatarThers,

I thought a woman named Spelling got the job as Ed. Sec. Both have 2 syllable names, so maybe that explains my confusion.


Gravatar"It's an inspired choice," said columnist Peggy Noonan from beneath the dolphin that was fucking her. "After all, they both have only two syllables in their names. Clerly, we can see the hand of God at work. Harder, Flipper, HARDER!"
My god what a shit hole this place has become.


GravatarRipley:


...



...



...



... "Taking a leak for Jeebus"!?



Ohhh, please, if there is a God, hurry up with the damn Rapture, and, oh Lord, make sure I don't go.


GravatarI've got some really nice Chardonnay (French) and some homebaked cinnamon buns. Just so long as we're eating and drinking, figured I'd offer.

I don't recommend them together, however.


GravatarJD is NOT whiskey.
Thersites


then what?

It's not my favorite blend, and it declined notably by reducing the proof from 90 to, finally, 80 proof... I visited the distillery one time, but they couldn't dispense hooch: it's in a dry county...we got a sliver of branded pound-cake...not bad, but i woulda liked a snifter...

there are apparently a lot of 'aficionado' bourbon/sour-mash/whiskeys in the world. I drank WAY too much rotgut (Ten-High?) as a youth to obsess upon 'em...I like scotch, beer, red wine in descending order...after that, it's whatever the host is serving...


GravatarFor my eastern friends: The Okie Doctor Says pour 12 oz. Smirnoff Silver straight from the freezer into chilled glass, add one drop of Dr. Pepper, shake don't stir, drink until glass is empty. Repeat as necessary.


Gravatarbigvic,
And Spelling is a school subject, so there ya go!


GravatarWatched Saved last night on DVD, having been unwilling to pay $7 to see it in the theatre. Pretty scary. They don't really indoctrinate teenagers like that, do they?

I haven't seen saved yet but I saw a documentary called Hell House. It was a tradition started I believe in Texas (been a while since I've seen it). Somewhat like a haunted house but inside sinners like women who have abortions and drug users are taken to hell. At the end you have a choice to speak to someone who tries to save you or go through the doors marked hell.

Check it out. It's the weirdest friggin' thing I've ever seen.


GravatarHecate:
I will never drink white russians after that incident with the backhoe.

Backhoe? C'mon - you can't leave us without the details.


Gravatarwhat's this i hear about the u.s. embassy in baghdad being bombed?


GravatarNo shit! And to think I have the bulls game on downstairs.


Yeah, that's where I saw it.


Gravatar"go through the doors marked hell."

Do you get your own hand basket?


GravatarWGG,

Thers's is an Irish prejudice, trust me. No one knows the man better than I do. Jameson's all the way.


GravatarOlaf -- right here. Two killed, five wounded.


GravatarI will never drink white russians after that incident with the backhoe.

After my time in the Soviet Union, I learned 2 things: never drink with Russians; never drink with a backhoe. Oh, I learned some Russian, too, but I can only speak it when drinking vodka.


GravatarNYMary,

You and Thers having a battle of the keyboards tonight? Heh.


GravatarEat them up, yum.
filkertom


They can't play baseball they don't wear sweaters,
They're not good dancers they don't play drums...
-


GravatarHow's the kicker supposed to aim a gasbag?

Nothing like hog-tying wouldn't fix...
I'm just hoping the kicker doesn't get his foot stuck in Rush's Grand Canyon.

(and to the Secret Service/MIB/EIB: this is a joke; I will not do this for real nor have contacted anyone to do same; aren't y'all supposed to be on a pretzel-and-porn run for the preznit anyway?)


GravatarAway for a bit. Back soon.


GravatarHell House looks... disturbing.

Hec, Saved is still in my Netflix queue, so coming up any day now.


GravatarDo you get your own hand basket?
Naw, just cast out of a backward, fucked up little Texas town. Worse things could happen.


GravatarI think I see what's wrong with the left. Everybody's pickled.


Gravatar"Thers's is an Irish prejudice, trust me."

And there's a problem with this? The idea, calling Jack Daniels whiskey. Or even whisky!

Ah, would that I qualified for a duty free any more, just for a nice bottle of Bells. I know, it's not the same as one or the other, but very nice, very nice. I wonder, is it worth a weekend in Winnipeg?


GravatarMy god what a shit hole this place has become.

What do you have against dolphins?


GravatarOlaf -- right here. Two killed, five wounded.
filkertom | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 9:06 pm | #


Dammit. It would really be a serious blow to democracy worldwide if Ambassador Negroponte were among the victims.


GravatarWonkette?

Glenn?

Sully?

John Boy?

Chief?

McCloud!

Fred?

Velma?

Scooby-Doo? Where are you?


Superintendent Chalmers!?!

Skin-NER!!!


GravatarI love Pod People, Thersites.


GravatarI had a bottle of cheap Freedom Wine tonite. Now, I'm wondering if it REALLY was Freedom wine. The label said Andre. That sounds French to me! Well, damn!


GravatarOnce, after drinking way too much Two Fingers tequila and smoking hash, I threw up in a guy's fish tank, killing his 5 year old 12 pound oscar. Yow. Totally ruined the party. Today, I'm rather fond of Bombay Sapphire on the rocks with olives. Yum! Who wants to go out and down a few?


Gravatarpossibly the only decent Tom Cruise movie

I harbor an irrational dislike of Tom Cruise. I used to lurk at BHORC -- Bizarre Hatred of Random Celebrities -- but that was just feeding the beast.


GravatarWe're pickled pink...errr.. tickled think... minkled shrink... damn this alcohol! I reject Islam and open my heart to.. damn that Chick Tract!

What I'm trying to say is.. uhhhh... Korg like beer


Gravatarflory,

Well the details are blurry, but if you've had too many white russians and your equally drunk friend wants to show you his new backhoe and you manage to get up on the backhoe in heels and stockings and a straight skirt, take your pearls off before trying to get down. Trust me.


Gravatarin the print ads for jack daniels they try to make it look like it is a small operation run by hillbillies in the back woods of tennessee. somehow they produce enough of the stuff to stock dozens of cases in every liquor store in america.


GravatarOnce, after drinking way too much Two Fingers tequila and smoking hash, I threw up in a guy's fish tank, killing his 5 year old 12 pound oscar. Yow. Totally ruined the party. Today, I'm rather fond of Bombay Sapphire on the rocks with olives. Yum! Who wants to go out and down a few?


GravatarI harbor an irrational dislike of Tom Cruise.

No such thing.


GravatarJack Chick Chic Tract

What's the chances?



When I was in college, a fundi wingnut used to hand out Chick Tracts.

Anyway, he decided to hand them out one Halloween to protest the Satanic nature of the holliday and a gang of drunken soriority girls in devil costumes started chasing him around and poking him with their plastic pitchforks.

I still laugh thinking about it.


GravatarBut then, good sense kicks in and I remember that nothing on this earth is worth a weekend in Winnipeg. Certainly not in January.


Gravatarbigvic:
(1) cable modem
(2) wireless hub
(3)matching laptops

His has our son as the wallpaper, mine has our daughter. That's about the only difference. You've never been around for this routine? Serously?


GravatarMy god what a shit hole this place has become.

That's what the dolphin said.

(Quagmire)
OOH!
(/Quagmire)


GravatarJack Chick Chic Tract

And Chicklets sales go through the roof!


GravatarWe're prolly the only nation in the world that cheers when fighter jets scream overhead.

Actually, not. One of the special features of this year's Paris Air Show is going to be unmanned military drones.

In fact, even Canada has their own team of stunt fighter pilots similar to the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds.


Gravataraviator
sideways
or
million dollar baby


GravatarWell the details are blurry, but if you've had too many white russians and your equally drunk friend wants to show you his new backhoe and you manage to get up on the backhoe in heels and stockings and a straight skirt, take your pearls off before trying to get down. Trust me.


Sounds like a scene from a movie.


GravatarHecate, I think I may have just fallen in love with you. Some day I'll blog my fishing lure earring story - it's brutal.


Gravataryour equally drunk friend wants to show you his new backhoe

Wrong on so many levels...


GravatarLe freak, c'est Chick.


GravatarAnyway, he decided to hand them out one Halloween to protest the Satanic nature of the holliday and a gang of drunken soriority girls in devil costumes started chasing him around and poking him with their plastic pitchforks.

Bet that fucked up his sexuality good and proper....


GravatarIf I remember right, the U.S. boycotted last year's Paris Air Show. I guess that showed them!


GravatarHecate, I think I may have just fallen in love with you.

Slow learner?


GravatarHa ha.. That Modern Drunkard Magazine is pretty good!


GravatarThe embassy was bombed.

Bush is always bombed but pretends he is sober.


GravatarThe dollar will bounce back when President Sluggo is gone.

Forgive me for being selfish... but what the heck is going to pay our bills in the interim? If we raise taxes now, we can head this off and the dollar will strengthen.

OK, let me explain this macroeconomically: The rich take their tax cuts and buy assets like real estate and stocks. Both of those are wildly overvalued now because of this loose money. If they had been taxed at previous rates, it would have cooled off inflation as well.

Bully boy has zero intelligence. They think they're winning a con game against the stupider voting public. They think there is no price for ransacking the economy. HA!

People, seriously....sell your real estate and stocks, hide your freaking money in Zurich. Get ready for the megashit to hit the fan, and soon. The furriners are ready to choke us off.


Gravatarif you've had too many white russians and your equally drunk friend wants to show you his new backhoe and you manage to get up on the backhoe in heels and stockings and a straight skirt, take your pearls off before trying to get down. Trust me.

Tell me about it. When will I ever learn!


Gravataryour equally drunk friend wants to show you his new backhoe

Wait a minute - are we actually talking about heavy landscape construction equipment here or did I miss an Atriopedia entry?


GravatarGoodness, this new vibrator is soooooo big.


GravatarAnyway, he decided to hand them out one Halloween to protest the Satanic nature of the holliday

I always enjoy watching boneheads like that who are too fucking stupid to realize that Halloween is a CHRISTIAN holiday, that would not exist without Christianity (because there wouldn't be an All Saints' Day for there to be an eve of).


GravatarNYMary, but Thers is right on this one. Ah, Jameson's, the good stuff.


Gravatar"Bush is always bombed but pretends he is sober."

A pose that only convinces the godly, teetotalers. The rest of us pretty much can tell when he's been nipping.


GravatarBush is always bombed but pretends he is sober.

Pretzel juice.


GravatarIf you had a nickel for every stupid thing Bush said, you'd be rich


GravatarI still laugh thinking about it.
SWR


That's a classic. Best one I ever witnessed was when a fundie was holding forth at the student union.

She stated she "used to be a disco queen" but "rejected the devil's music." She continued, "but the bible says praise the lord with your instruments."

Some wiseass pipes up with, "How about the skin flute?"

It all went downhill from there.
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Gravataryou manage to get up on the backhoe in heels and stockings and a straight skirt

Hecate


Where's my Nitro!

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GravatarHa ha.. That Modern Drunkard Magazine is pretty good!

I'd say it rules... or rooolths.


GravatarNYM:
I had a cool sort of epiphanic moment one time which involved cockroaches.

I was teaching an evening class, in the basement of a large lecture building at LSU. At a particular point in the class, I noticed a dark spot which seemed to move around on the back wall of the classroom (probably 50 feet from the podium). I was beguiled by this phenomenon and finally interrupted the class to try to solve the mystery of the spot moving on the wall.

It turned out that it was a colony of ants which was trying to move the carcass of a largish German Brown cockroach from the floor, where they had overwhelmed it, up to their nest, through a crack in the ceiling tile.

What the ants were having trouble with was the fact that, while they could move the carcass pretty easily through the vertical plane, when they had to traverse the upside-down horizontal plane, the ants made the journey faultlessly, but the carcass of the roach fluttered to the floor, where it was soon discovered by the ants again which, after which it strted up the wall again until the same physical problem once again recurred; if they were theistic ants, they must have believed they were being blessed with a shower of roaches...

multiple lessons in and reminders of the importance of relative positionality and perspective and the construction of myth and all the things of which my students didn't want to be reminded they were voluntary participants and agents...

there are just almost too many lessons to be drawn in that story. I tried to write a paper about it one time...sigh


GravatarNYMary,

Jeepers H. Christmas, are you kidding? There must be a spy cam in our house. You got it right down to the wall paper.

BTW, I used to be stictly a Scoth drinker. Till I drank so much of it at a party one night that I puked out the car window all the way home. To this day I can't stand the smell of it.


GravatarWake up.
An0nymous | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 8:36 pm |


ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz......


Gravatarmmm...devil costumes...


GravatarThe embassy was bombed.


I hope Ambassador Negroponte is safe. He's our representative in Iraq after all and any harm that befalls him would be greviously harmful to the cause of freedom.

Without Ambassador Negroponte, young men would not be free to show their love to American nuns.

Without ambassador Negroponte, young men and boys will not be able to find their calling in the death squads of their choice.

I sincerely hope that Ambassador Negroponte is never, ahem, invited to star in a home movie made by the Iraqi resistence because that would, sob, be a shame.


GravatarGotta love those Texas Pinstripes, eh Vic?


GravatarPresident Sluggo

The boy king says today that the election won't end the violence in Iraq.

Who'da thunk it, Sluggo?


GravatarHecate,
I warn my students at the beginning of the term that they'll probably see me trip comically at least once, grace not being my strong suit. One class complained toward the end of the term that they hadn't had a single pratfall, at which point, I started to hear a gentle pattering. My pearls had broken their string, and were falling, in slow motion all around me. As I tried to stop the drip, it sped up.... well you can picture the rest.

They stopped complaining.


GravatarKono,

4 words: Flashbacks from '68, man.


Gravatargwpda and elaine are correct. i am a binge drinker myself and it is obvious to me that gwb never actually quit drinking. he just quit going out in public unsupervised.

and "spending time at his ranch clearing brush" really means "too shitfaced to stand up".


GravatarWGG,
Sisyphean cockroaches?


GravatarTheri:

It's whiskey. It's vile. So is bourbon, scotch, rye, canadian--whatever you want to call it. I get the same hangover from it. Nasty, vile, evil stuff.


Gravatarand fwiw, fifteen or twenty thousand Iraqis have already voted in the US.

Not to mention a few thousand in Australia, where I guess anybody living on the west coast had to fly across the continent because all the polling places are in the southeast.

With 150+ parties on the ballot, the likelihood that anyone other than Allawi is going to be running things from here on out has got to be pretty slim.


GravatarThe RNC talking point of the month is that the Left is full of hate. Hate. Hate. Hate.


GravatarJeeze, all you pearl people. Let me introduce you to the world famous, home pearl-restringing kit. Now, you too can lose your eyesight and your health double-knotting each pearl, carefully sorting them out by size only to have your beloved casually knock over the little tray.... Discovering that the one and only needle that fits thru each and every pearl has been 'borrowed' to do a little work on the toothpick mansion being constructed....


GravatarIt's whiskey. It's vile. So is bourbon, scotch, rye, canadian--whatever you want to call it.

Ah, see, you left out the Irish!

(Piously raising hands in benediction to Saint Tibulus)


GravatarNYMary,

LOL! I have a necklace of blue glass beads that I love and that happened to it once. I picked up every one of the beads and got it restrung with knots between the beads. That way, even if the string breaks, you only lose, at most one or two beads.


GravatarThe boy king says today that the election won't end the violence in Iraq.


I'd love to make a comment about that, but what else can be said. Maybe Reynolds can explain that to the families of the soldiers that will die or be maimed after the elections. Fucking war mongering coward.


GravatarI was a hero in error.
What's the big deal?

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GravatarThersites, technically Jack Daniels is whisky. So is 25-year-old MacAllan.

Whisky is generally defined as spirits distilled from a mash of starchy/sugary origin which is then aged in wooden cases, so Jack does fit.

Little League is technically baseball, but the Sox are better at it. I tend to think of Jack Daniels as strictly little league.


GravatarI always thought they sent Bush to Crawford to dry out, like after the pretzel incident. It's the only reason that I could figure out that he vacations so much. You wanna clear brush dude? Fire the white house gardener. Sheesh.


GravatarThe crazy thing I hear about this election on Sunday is that over half of Iraqis think they are voting for a president.

Oops. Must be a language thing...


Yeeeeee Hawwwww...


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GravatarFielding - Ahhh, so you too are acquainted with the verbal stylings of Sister Cindy. She did a circuit, you know, going to college campuses all over the place. I still remember her ranting about how she once was a whore, a wicked "Disco Queen" but that she was now a "born-again virgin." Best of all was the time that she told the story of how Holy Brother Hubert was assaulted for witnessing, but after the awesome beating had ended, with Hubert's jaw and several ribs being broken, Hubert spoke up and said "......"

From the back of the crowd, someone yelled "MMMPPPHHHHWWWTTTTZZZZ" (Hubert's jaw being broken and all) and she actually lost it and started laughing.

She was a real sideshow act.


GravatarGWPDA,
My pearls weren't real, just decent paste ones. I strung 'em on fishing line and they've been fine ever since. And fishing line has enough heft to thread a pearl without a needle.


Gravatar"Mr President, do you feel that your Bring It On statement may have fanned the flames of terrorism and insurgency in Iraq?"

"I'm sorry? Bring it on? No, I said Sing A Song... like the Muppets, you know? Boy, I love those Muppets. That crazy drummer used to crack me up. What was his name again, Beasty Boy or something? So in conclusion, I urge all Americans to pray for the election and let freedom reign. Oh! It was Animal, that was his name! He's just go all crazy and fall over, that was funny stuff."


Gravatarmultiple lessons in and reminders of the importance of relative positionality and perspective and the construction of myth and all the things of which my students didn't want to be reminded they were voluntary participants and agents...

WoodyGuthrie'sGuitar


Ok, pass that thing over here.
Bogart!

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GravatarGlenn Reynolds, how come you weren't in either war in Iraq? Wouldn't want to take the paycut? Mr. Tough wants to send your kids to end up in chairs of the wheeled variety or boxes of the buried variety but won't don the uniform himself. Chickenhawk pussy. Lets keep the troops in Iraq until 3005


GravatarNYM:
Yeah...well even curriculum theory journals thought the Cockroaches of Sysyphus was a bit over-the-top.

Did i ever recite my little hymn to Sysiphus for ya?

Here it is:

To Sisyphys

Struggle on Sysiphus, though it sore torment your soul.
Push on, Sysiphus, cuz it's only rock'n'roll...


GravatarWould someone please explain why the election in Iraq is a bad thing? As much as I hate Bush, I can't help but be happy for them.


GravatarHey Reynolds, the inspectors were on the ground doing their job, when your president lied right to your face and said Saddam wouldn't let them back in.


GravatarI had no idea pearls could be so hilarious, as well as dangerous. Hecate, that backhoe, pearl story you told damned near had me pissing myself.


GravatarBet that fucked up his sexuality good and proper....

If you could possibly trick him into seeing Myra Breckinridge and/or the uncut version of Crimes Of Passion (great movie if you're a little... bent), that would probably send him over the edge once and for all.

(considerably more topical before my wireless connection went kaflooey... again)


GravatarEli,
You hip to The New Pornographers?


GravatarMy friend, a Reformed Church minister now, was taking his girl to the beach in Holland when his planned soiree was interupted by what he described as, "A big yellow bus full of Bible Beaters." Have never forgotten the appelation.


Gravatarjohn d. the election is not really evil so much as it's fake.


GravatarYou hip to The New Pornographers?

Apparently not. It's all I can do to keep up with the old pornographers.


GravatarDC


Gravatarjohn d:

1) there's no reason to assume everything's fair in the election. Allawi may win unfairly

2) the election will be accompanied by waves of violence in an unsecure Iraq, most likely

3) if Allawi does win, nothing will have changed, really


GravatarStart here.


GravatarThers, buy your wife some real pearls. A couple of jars will make no difference to you, and you'll have a crown in heaven.


GravatarI digs 'em


GravatarI'm a fan of the Shy Pornographers,,,


GravatarI still can't even *smell* gin without my throat closing.

Once, when I was in high school, I drank a lot of gin with a bunch of friends. I woke up next morning in bed nekkid with one of those friends, and I didn't remember having gone to her house, having gotten nekkid, or anything we might have done in bed. Not really a problem for me -- apart from feeling like crap physically for a week -- cuz I already knew I was gay and that we were attracted to each other. But she didn't. End of friendship, end of drinking gin.

For years now, whiskey has been my drink of choice.


Gravatarwhat else can be said.

Both parties are complicit. Bush wouldn't be able to say things like that if the Democrats in Congress, notably the junior senator from Massachusetts, didn't concur in describing Chimpy and Dick's Excellent Adventure as "defending America".

That's a lie; it's a lie when it comes out of John Kerry's mouth, just as much as it is when it comes out of George Bush's.

The underlying truth is that Congress makes the calculation every day; it's more important for them to be able to continue to deny that they fucked up than it is to preserve the lives of our armed forces.

Every war since WWII has been an imperialist project


GravatarJohn D,

Elections, per se, are not bad. But it is like putting the cart before the horse. How in the hell can you have elections in a place that has become a living hell?

The correct course of action would have been to continuing training the Iraqis to handle their own security. When the place achieved a modicum of stability, then have the elections.

Of course the CORRECT course of action would have been to never invade . . . .


Gravatarjohn d. the election is not really evil so much as it's fake.
Olaf glad and big


They are not actually tallying the votes?


GravatarCall it for Allawi! Call it for Allawi!
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GravatarHere's the Will Ferrell Bush ad, just for fun.


Will does Bush

and another great ad

They're both QuickTime and should play in your browser.


GravatarThey are not actually tallying the votes?
john d | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 9:34 pm | #


Yeah. OK. You're sincere. I believe you.

But as I said, tell me what you think of this article.


Gravatartheodoric

The president lied to congress. Congress doesn't see all the intelligence that the president sees.


Gravatar
The correct course of action would have been to continuing training the Iraqis to handle their own security. When the place achieved a modicum of stability, then have the elections.


All the polls I have read show an overwhelming majority of Iraqis want the elections held, not delayed. Why shouldn't they get their wish?


GravatarHate. Hate. Hate.

Professional victims and cowards, all of 'em.


GravatarJennifer, I can't believe you actually saw the same obscure nut on tour! It's a small blog, after all..
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GravatarWould someone please explain why the election in Iraq is a bad thing? As much as I hate Bush, I can't help but be happy for them.

I don't know anyone who thinks it's a bad thing.

But I don't necessarily think it's worth the price that has been paid in American blood.


GravatarToo many gin and tonics was 2 for me on one memorable occasion. Barely managed to get out of bed. Worst hangover was on some cheap Scotch my parents brought along when they visited me a number of years back.

As long as we're eating and drinking, I've got a batch of spiced soynuts in the oven. basting with mixed soy, Worcestershire, hot, and West Virginia Zest sauces, and letting dry between coats.

And now that I've thought about that horrible Scotch, I'm missing my mother again. She died the Sunday before Christmas, the day after I mentioned she was in the hospital. I emailed a couple of people about her death but didn't feel like making a general announcement till now.

The last time I saw her, just after Thanksgiving, she was bragging about getting several of the nursing home aides to register and vote for Kerry. We had a funeral Mass without a body because she left hers to the University of Iowa medical School. As long as we're drinking, raise a glass to Ruth O'Mahoney Sheller. Slainte!


GravatarStupid drunk Texans/Lousianans:

My friend Melissa and I had a bit too much vino and champagne at a wedding at which we were both bridesmaids. We were in the back of the party, out near the back 40 (the bride's family owned a ranch). The bridesgrooms got this crazy game going of jumping over the barbed wire fences. Well, Meliss and I weren't about to be left outta that.

So we hiked up our godawful mauve taffetta bridesmaid skirts, petticoats, too, I doubt discreetly given our condition, and took a mad dash for the fence. We both made it over. Well, except for Melissa's little toe. On her right foot. Which, um, kinda came off. Snap! Never did find it. We used to joke that maybe it flew over to the banquet table and somebody mistook it for one of the canapes...

Meliss was also the person who used to add things to beer bottles in a fridge. Ever hear people saying beer tastes like piss? Well, Meliss gave 'em a reason to say it...


GravatarJimmy Jebus points out that the two richest men in the world, both Americans, are SHORTING the US dollar. When are you gonna link me Atrios?


Gravatar>apart from feeling like crap physically for a week -- cuz I already knew I was gay<

One time I was having a really great one night stand with this guy and woke up with a vodka bottle up my ass. Does that make me an alcoholic?


GravatarIf you had a nickel for every stupid thing Bush said, you'd be rich
Jim

You could live comfortably on a penny for two.

LEARN TO SPEAK LIKE A COLLEGE STUDENT

Lesson One:
But that's haarrrd!

The proper inflection follows this pitch line ~ .
It is important to understand that this is the proper response to any assignment. It is also properly said when a test is returned.

Repeat until mastered:
But that's haarrr!

Lesson Two:
I didn't know that was going to be on the te-est!

The hyphen represents a short dip in pitch before rising to the beginning pitch. The pitch level is high throughout.
This is a more specific response for a test being returned but only if there is a discussion of the individual items on the test.

Lesson Three:
Is this going to be on the test?
While there is no particular pitch inflection it is necessary to squint the eyes and slightly purse the lips when saying this.


GravatarAhianne - God bless all here, mija. Your mother will have been very proud of you.


GravatarLJ,

LOL. Bet she didn't feel a thing.


GravatarOne time I was having a really great one night stand with this guy and woke up with a vodka bottle up my ass. Does that make me an alcoholic?
Sully's Beard


I think that'd depend on what you did with it afterwards...


GravatarAs long as we're drinking, raise a glass to Ruth O'Mahoney Sheller.

To Ruth!


GravatarOT: As an expatriate Philadelphian, I found this amusing:

A guy from Philadelphia dies and is sent to Hell. He had been a horrible man his entire life. The devil puts him to work breaking up rocks with a sledgehammer. To make it worse he cranks up the temperature and the humidity. After a couple of days, the devil checks in on his victim to see if he is suffering adequately.

A guy from Philadelphia dies and is sent to Hell. He had been a horrible man his entire life. The devil puts him to work breaking up rocks with a sledgehammer. To make it worse he cranks up the temperature and the humidity. After a couple of days, the devil checks in on his victim to see if he is suffering adequately.

The devil is aghast as the Philadelphian is happily swinging his hammer and whistling a happy tune. The devil walks up to him and says, "I don't understand this. I've turned the heat way up, it's humid and you're crushing rocks; why are you so happy?"

The Philadelphian, with a big smile, looks at the devil and replies, "This is great! It reminds me of August in Philadelphia Hot, humid, a good place to work. It reminds me of home. This is fantastic!"

The devil, extremely perplexed, walks away to ponder the Philadelphian's remark. Then he decides to drop the temperature, send down a driving rain and torrential wind. Soon, Hell is a wet, muddy mess. Walking in mud up to his knees with dust blowing into his eyes, the Philadelphian is happily slogging through the mud pushing a wheelbarrow full of crushed rocks.

Again, the devil asks how he can be happy in such conditions. The Philadelphian replies, "This is great! Just like April in Philadelphia. It reminds me of working out in the yard with spring planting!"

The devil is now completely baffled but more determined to make the Philadelphian suffer. He makes the temperature plummet. Suddenly Hell is blanketed in snow and ice. Confident that this will surely make the Philadelphian unhappy, the devil checks in on him. He is again aghast at what he sees.

The Philadelphian is dancing, singing, and twirling his sledgehammer as he cavorts in glee.

"How can you be so happy? Don't you know its 40 below zero!?" screams the devil.

Jumping up and down the Philadelphian throws a snowball at the devil and yells, "Hell has frozen over!! This means the Eagles won the Super Bowl!"
The devil is aghast as the Philadelphian is happily swinging his hammer and whistling a happy tune. The devil walks up to him and says, "I don't understand this. I've turned the heat way up, it's humid and you're crushing rocks; why are you so happy?"

The Philadelphian, with a big smile, looks at the devil and replies, "This is great! It reminds me of August in Philadelphia Hot, humid, a good place to work. It reminds me of home. This is fantastic!"

The devil, extremely perplexed, walks away to ponder the Philadelphian's remark. Then he decides to drop the temperature, send down a driving rain and


GravatarThe scary part would be not finding the cap...


GravatarAhianne,

I'm sorry for your trouble. Peace be upon you.


GravatarAhianne,
I'm sorry to hear about your mother. I lost mine a long time ago, but you never stop missing her.


GravatarRuth O'Mahoney Sheller. Slainte!
Ahianne


Yeah, my Dad died not too long ago; fucking sucks.

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GravatarAnd the rest:

The devil, extremely perplexed, walks away to ponder the Philadelphian's remark. Then he decides to drop the temperature, send down a driving rain and torrential wind. Soon, Hell is a wet, muddy mess. Walking in mud up to his knees with dust blowing into his eyes, the Philadelphian is happily slogging through the mud pushing a wheelbarrow full of crushed rocks.

Again, the devil asks how he can be happy in such conditions. The Philadelphian replies, "This is great! Just like April in Philadelphia. It reminds me of working out in the yard with spring planting!"

The devil is now completely baffled but more determined to make the Philadelphian suffer. He makes the temperature plummet. Suddenly Hell is blanketed in snow and ice. Confident that this will surely make the Philadelphian unhappy, the devil checks in on him. He is again aghast at what he sees.

The Philadelphian is dancing, singing, and twirling his sledgehammer as he cavorts in glee.

"How can you be so happy? Don't you know its 40 below zero!?" screams the devil.

Jumping up and down the Philadelphian throws a snowball at the devil and yells, "Hell has frozen over!! This means the Eagles won the Super Bowl!"
The devil is aghast as the Philadelphian is happily swinging his hammer and whistling a happy tune. The devil walks up to him and says, "I don't understand this. I've turned the heat way up, it's humid and you're crushing rocks; why are you so happy?"

The Philadelphian, with a big smile, looks at the devil and replies, "This is great! It reminds me of August in Philadelphia Hot, humid, a good place to work. It reminds me of home. This is fantastic!"

The devil, extremely perplexed, walks away to ponder the Philadelphian's remark. Then he decides to drop the temperature, send down a driving rain and torrential wind. Soon, Hell is a wet, muddy mess. Walking in mud up to his knees with dust blowing into his eyes, the Philadelphian is happily slogging through the mud pushing a wheelbarrow full of crushed rocks.

Again, the devil asks how he can be happy in such conditions. The Philadelphian replies, "This is great! Just like April in Philadelphia. It reminds me of working out in the yard with spring planting!"

The devil is now completely baffled but more determined to make the Philadelphian suffer. He makes the temperature plummet. Suddenly Hell is blanketed in snow and ice. Confident that this will surely make the Philadelphian unhappy, the devil checks in on him. He is again aghast at what he sees.

The Philadelphian is dancing, singing, and twirling his sledgehammer as he cavorts in glee.

"How can you be so happy? Don't you know its 40 below zero!?" screams the devil.

Jumping up and down the Philadelphian throws a snowball at the devil and yells, "Hell has frozen over!! This means the Eagles won the Super Bowl!"


GravatarYou can't beat alcohol and free association on a thread!


GravatarAhianne,

Sorry to hear about your mom; she sounds like a great lady. May the Goddes guard her. May she find her way to the Summerlands. May her friends and family know peace.


GravatarAhianne,

Consider it done. You have my sincere condolences.

Peace.


GravatarEli, You're hip now. Proceed.


GravatarOh, did I screw that up or what!

Just like a native Philadelphian!


GravatarSully:
No, it means your not a virgin.


GravatarBigvic: Nope, not a thing! Didn't need any anesthetics at the hospital, either, but damn, what a pain in the ass getting her there at all! She fought us tooth and nail. We're all laughing and stumbling and yelling at her that she's gotta get her foot fixed and she's fighting it! FInally threw her in the back of a pickup and took off. First mile or two, she kept trying to jump out and get back to the party. Crazy woman.

Melissa is still nuts in a similar way. I can't take her anywhere!


GravatarI once had this boyfriend who admired my pearl earrings, so I drew some on his earlobes with a pen. He sort of forgot about them being there... and then he was late for work. Giving major presentations to an important customer of the firm.


GravatarMy God they are just all a-twiter on Fox over these sham elections.


GravatarThe president lied to congress. Congress doesn't see all the intelligence that the president sees.

Anybody in Congress who believed the bullshit that Chimpy was feeding them is too goddamned stupid to be an elected official.

I know of at least three CARTOONISTS - who have NO access to intelligence - who knew what was going down in Iraq from the outset. Scott Ritter bitchslapped Shepard Smith on Fox News. NPR interviewed Iraqi refugees who testified that there hadn't been any WMDs in Iraq since Iraq I.

Anybody who was seriously paying attention to Chenopet and Dumsfeld at that point in time could have figured out that they were lying. I'm not a foreign policy expert, and it was obvious to me.

In any case, anyone who was stupid enough to buy into Bush's WMD fantasy hasn't had a viable excuse for at leas a year and a half.


GravatarSo the Oklahoma City Zoo, having been without a gorilla for quite some time, gets a new gorilla. Everything goes fine for awhile, then one day, the gorilla's disposition turns ugly. Finally it is determined that the gorilla, a female, is in heat and cranky because there is no male gorilla for her to mate with. The zookeepers finally settle on a solution, and approach the redneck who cleans the manure out of the cages. They ask Jimmy Ray Joe Bob if, for $500, he'd be willing to help out by having sex with the gorilla. Jimmy Ray Joe Bob scratches his head and say, "let me think on it for a spell, and I'll let you know."

The next day Jimmy Ray Joe Bob comes in to work and announces that he'll do as asked, with 3 conditions.

"First of all, I don't have to kiss her." They tell him that's fine, they doubt the gorilla will care.

"Second, if there are any kids, they have to be raised Southern Baptist." Again, the condition is agreed to.

"And third, you're gonna have to give me a couple of weeks to come up with the $500."


GravatarI once had this boyfriend who admired my pearl earrings.

What did he think of your pearl necklace?


GravatarCurious earthlings, what's the buzz?


GravatarSlainte mhath, Ahianne.

She sounds like she was a great lady.


GravatarSorry about your mom, Ahianne.


GravatarSo the Oklahoma City Zoo, having been without a gorilla for quite some time, gets a new gorilla...

Where does that crazy misconception of lefties being condescending shits come from again?


GravatarAhianne:

Sorry about your Mom. Sounds like she was a great woman.

I raise some Chinaco in her honor.


GravatarTheodoric,

You are SO correct. The empty head crowd are all singing from the same hymnal and hoping the rest of us are following along.


GravatarWhere does that crazy misconception of lefties being condescending shits come from again?



Jennifer,

Did Jimmy Ray Joe Bob vote for bush?


GravatarMy thoughts are with you, Ahianne. And I drink to your mother's name. She sounds like a wonderful woman.


GravatarWhere's dave's troll categories?

I think I smell a waaaaaaaaa in the room.


Gravatar>Where does that crazy misconception of lefties being condescending shits come from again?<

70% of those voting for Bush do not believe in Evolution.


Gravatartheodoric

The authorization congress gave the president required him to go back to the UN for a second vote, which he never did. And it required him to prove to the American people that the inspections were not working which he never did. He lied to congress. There's no way to hold him accountable because of the Repub control.


GravatarWhere does that crazy misconception of rightards being humorless buttwipes who can dish it out but can't take it come from again?


GravatarSo the Oklahoma City Zoo, having been without a gorilla for quite some time, gets a new gorilla...

Where does that crazy misconception of lefties being condescending shits come from again?
Lurker | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 9:49 pm | #


Lurker. It's not my fault if you didn't get your 500 dollars worth.


GravatarOh, did I screw that up or what!

Just like a native Philadelphian!
monchie b. monchum


Yeah, how'd you do that?
Glue get every where when you where cutting and pasting?

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Gravatar70% of those voting for Bush do not believe in Evolution.
Sully's Beard | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 9:51 pm | #



Over 50% still believe Saddam was behind 9/11.


GravatarFrom the squeaky clean, all-tolerant humanity loving folks on the right


GravatarLJ,

You owe me an adult diaper.


GravatarThe boy king says today that the election won't end the violence in Iraq.

BushCo, LLC: "Diminishing your expectations since 2001."


GravatarWe have a winner!

Lurker. It's not my fault if you didn't get your 500 dollars worth.

Congratulations, SWR!


GravatarI like SWR's response, too. That was gold. Heh!


Gravatar" 'Night, Ralph..."
" 'Night, Sam..."


GravatarAnybody who was seriously paying attention to Chenopet and Dumsfeld at that point in time could have figured out that they were lying. I'm not a foreign policy expert, and it was obvious to me.

In any case, anyone who was stupid enough to buy into Bush's WMD fantasy hasn't had a viable excuse for at leas a year and a half.
theodoric


I have never understood that. With a little interest and an internet connection we seemed to know more than our elected fools.

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GravatarSlante mhath, Ahianne. Much love to you and yours.


Gravataragave,

Damned sorry to hear of your Dad's passing. *Sigh.* Too much of that going around.


GravatarMy God they are just all a-twiter on Fox over these sham elections.

Which should set off alarm bells in everyone's head. Is Kenneth Blackwell prestaged in Jordan yet?


GravatarThe authorization congress gave the president required him to go back to the UN for a second vote, which he never did. And it required him to prove to the American people that the inspections were not working which he never did. He lied to congress. There's no way to hold him accountable because of the Repub control.

That's all true. What I am saying is that Congress is culpable for the first authorization, because anyone with any sense knew he was full of shit.


GravatarEli, You're hip now. Proceed.

So many pornographers, so little time...


Gravatar"9/11 wasn't a triumph of the human spirit - it was a fuck up by a guy on vacation" - Bill Maher


GravatarAnd my condolences to you as well, Ahianne. Your mum sounds way cool.


Gravatartheodoric

I agree with you, I think Congress was wrong and a bunch of cowards for giving chimpy authorization. But if he would have followed the law, he couldn't have gone to war.

What we really need to do is take back the house in '06, so articles of impeachment can be started.


Gravataragave,

Damned sorry to hear of your Dad's passing. *Sigh.* Too much of that going around.
bigvic


Yell, damn bigvic, thanks for the thought.

We basically hated each other for along time. But had the opportunity to put that behind us and started enjoying seeing each other, which wasn't often.

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Gravatar"Wahh"!!! is a category 3, IIRC.


GravatarWhat we really need to do is take back the house in '06, so articles of impeachment can be started.

This is based on a presumption that the votes will be counted properly...if they're entered into the systems properly at all...


GravatarAll that was needed to detect the lying, at the time and every day since then, was common sense.

When someone tells you they have solid evidence, and they'll show it to you "soon, real soon" and then they trot it out and it's transparently flimsy and is completely debunked within a matter of days, and this cycle is repeated over and over and over without variation for the space of over 6 months, you'd have to be a fool of the magnitude that would allow an Amway acolyte into your living room to believe that you're being told the truth.

Because the converse is true: when there is good solid evidence, there's no reason not to present it. You win in court and the court of public opinion when you present your strongest facts. They never presented strong facts; strong facts cannot be debunked, whether in the space of several days or decades. You don't throw out weak-ass half-truths if you have stronger ammo. This is not how things are done by rational or competent people. And though we know that Bushco is neither rational nor competent, subsequent developments have shown that they never had any strong facts to back up their claims. So it's not a matter of them simply cherry-picking their weakest evidence to win public support, as one would expect those who are merely irrational and/or incompetent to do - they went with the best they had. Which was known at the time by anyone with a lick of common sense to be complete shite.


GravatarAnd with that happy thought, I'm off to scribble on my lowly novel. Sigh...


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Lurker. It's not my fault if you didn't get your 500 dollars worth.
SWR


SWR wins for best off the cuff remark!


GravatarAlways loved Sam and Ralph.

How is it that the big question about Iraqi elections is "will it be successful?" and not " "successful" (by anyone's definition) or not, will it be worth it?" almost 1500 american lives, tens of thousands of iraqi lives, over 10,000 wounded, $300 bil, not to mention the physical destruction of people's homes, communities and history. There's no success to be had at this point.


GravatarThersites: Ever puked purple?

I can puke a rainbow
Puke a rainbow
Puke a rainbow, too.

monica_nyc: And Chicklets sales go through the roof!

Novak's dental insurance premiums just went up 837%.
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GravatarThanks, y'all.


Gravatara fool of the magnitude that would allow an Amway acolyte into your living room to believe that you're being told the truth.


Now, that's good. Jennifer, I may steal that.


Gravatar70% of those voting for Bush do not believe in Evolution.
Sully's Beard | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 9:51 pm | #



Over 50% still believe Saddam was behind 9/11.
SWR

100% of them are idiots.


GravatarDon't forget about that whacky UN resolution we submitted, then pulled before anyone could vote on it and prevent us from doing what we wanted.

It's people like Alberto Gonzales that make this county what it is today... (cue proud swelling of chests and wiping of patriotic teardrops)


Gravatarand countRy... yeesh


GravatarMann Coulter, punked on Canadian TV

Enjoy.


GravatarPlease click "homepage" for url for a most excellent column by David Waters re the fiscal issues/national values in our current spending beyond our means in Iraq while spending less and less on health care, education and so on. It's so matter of factly well done you can mail it to all your conservatives and give them (one hopes) some good hard thinks.


Gravatarjennifer is right about the evidence. they also never showed anyone any evidence that 9/11 was an al-qaeda/bin ladin job either.

but really all the evidence that there were no wmds that anyone needed was the fact that they wanted to invade in the first place. invading a country that was as heavily armed and dangerous as they claimed iraq was would have been too stupid for words.


GravatarAnd with that happy thought, I'm off to scribble on my lowly novel. Sigh...
LJ


Oh, come on, someone ask LJ about their novel.

Jeez.

LJ, you writing a novel!?

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GravatarMann Coulter, punked on Canadian TV
Enjoy.
Ilya Kuryakin | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 10:09 pm | #


Good God Ann.

If Canada was taking in American draft dodgers, doesn't it stand to reason that it probably didn't send troops to Vietnam?

It's really a shame that "lurker" paid 500 dollars to sleep with her, isn't it?


GravatarOlaf glad and big,

Cyndi Lauper is on PBS right now. (CST)

Thought you might like to know.


GravatarI'm gonna guess that LJ's novel is considerably less soft core than DWD's. Dunno what makes me think so....


Gravataragave,

If this is of any comfort to you, here is what I heard at the wake I went to today. The son of the deceased was kind of staring out into space and said, "my dad hated me." I replied, "Your dad revered you boys! I'm just sad that you were the only ones who didn't notice, but I blame him for that impression."

The dad was gruff and critical, but he really adored his sons. Bet your dad was like that but couldn't ever express it with words.

Peace.


GravatarSWR, let me be the first to say.... you're on fire tonight!


GravatarDamn, I've got to run out to 7-11 and get some new batteries for this vibrator.


Gravatardude, HELL NO they're not tallying the votes!! the vote counters are being shot up as we write these comments, the MONITORS of the elections are IN JORDAN, both the Sunnis and the Shiites have denounced the elections. Iyad Allawi IS EXACTLY LIKE SADDAM HUSSEIN, including the same intimidation tactics, the same history of collaboration with the CIA, the same religious/ethnic/philosophical background.

Now what exactly about these "elections" could possibly mean a damn thing to anyone other than self-congratulatory armchair generals back here in the states?


GravatarJennifer: Fielding - Ahhh, so you too are acquainted with the verbal stylings of Sister Cindy. She did a circuit, you know, going to college campuses all over the place. I still remember her ranting about how she once was a whore, a wicked "Disco Queen" but that she was now a "born-again virgin."

Oh, I remember her from when I used to work at a small state university in a backwards part of the world. Didn't she travel with a dude, "Brother Jed?"
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GravatarJeffraham Prestonian,

Hoo boy. THAT was funny.


GravatarI've come to believe that the true sign of adulthood is the ability to accept your parents as people, flawed, confused, sometimes wise, sometimes fucked. But people.

Having said that, it took me several years to recover my "spark" (as Thers puts it) after the death of my mother. I expect my dad's death will hit harder still.


GravatarJeffraham - that's the one and the same. Did you know that she eventually married Jed and they had a baby? Last time she showed up at our campus they had the baby with them. Guess she had to drop the "born-again virgin" line then.


GravatarBill! Love you, long time.


GravatarMy dad died last year, a week before Xmas. We didn't have the greatest relationship when I grew up, which was mostly my fault. I was able to apologize while he was still lucid, just before he died.

His body was cremated and we buried him at the family cemetary out in the middle of nothing on a cold, windy December day. They had dug a hole about the size of a 5 gallon bucket and 3 ft deep to place his ashes in.

A friend of the family, that I didn't know, came up to us and told us all what a great man my dad had been. As he turned to leave he stepped back and stepped right into the hole they had dug for Dad's ashes.

My brain split a little between "Oh my god, is he ok???" and "He's got his foot in my dad's burial spot!" It was fairly amusing afterward and definitely helped me get over myself a little. Not to mention giving me a great story to remember the very last of my Dad's time here on earth before we let him go, if you that makes sense.

I can just imagine him telling that story if it had happend at someone else's funeral and I think he probably laughed as he watched it happen at his.


GravatarLJ, you writing a novel!?

Two of them, actually. Neither of which would interest anyone here, most likely.


GravatarFox News is reporting that NYMary is projected to win Chief of Police in Al Anbar Province.


Gravatarwow, we're still arguing about the "authorization vote" in Congress? Its simple, it was a Republican trick, a tactical trick designed specifically to fuck with Kerry, who they expected to be running against.

The vote Congress made was cleverly designed to accomplish two things. Establish legally American demands for weapons inspections with Iraq, and back those demands with the threat of force. In this way, the Dems were thinking "we'll get inspectors in there, and see what's up, most likely that will be it". BUT - the truth was the these idiots were going to war no matter what, and if the Dems had voted against the measure, they would have been tarred with "being against both inspections AND the war". That's it, its that simple. If Kerry had voted no, GWB in those debates would have said "but my opponent also voted against the inspections! WHAT is he in favor of? he doesn't support either the war or inspections"


GravatarTwo of them, actually. Neither of which would interest anyone here, most likely.

Try us.


GravatarIt's election day in iraq. Wonder who's winning.

It keeps going back and forth: Bechtel... Halliburton... Bechtel... Halliburton...

Maybe the Supreme Court will decide it again.


GravatarI'd guess I'd just like to think that our Congress isn't as corrupt as the executive branch, but yes you guys are right. It didn't take a rocket scientist to know Bush and Co. was lying about WMD. I didn't know for sure, but I was suspicious and I'm just a lowly engineer. But you've got to admit, the president has access to more intelligence than anyone else.


GravatarI ordinarily don't like to call another woman the "C" word, but she IS a stupid, ignorant cunt!

" Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?"

McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter: "I don't think that's right."

McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?"

McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada."

Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops."

McKeown: "No."

Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

McKeown tags out in script:

"Coulter never got back to us -- but for the record, like Iraq, Canada sent no troops to Vietnam."


Gravatarbut really all the evidence that there were no wmds that anyone needed was the fact that they wanted to invade in the first place. invading a country that was as heavily armed and dangerous as they claimed iraq was would have been too stupid for words.

After such knowledge, what forgiveness? Think now

History has many cunning passages, contrived corridors

And issues, deceives with whispering ambitions,

Guides us by vanities. Think now

She gives when our attention is distracted

And what she gives, gives with such supple confusions

That the giving famishes the craving. Gives too late

What’s not believed in, or if still believed,

In memory only, reconsidered passion. Gives too soon

Into weak hands, what’s thought can be dispensed with

Till the refusal propagates a fear. Think

Neither fear nor courage saves us. Unnatural vices

Are fathered by our heroism. Virtues

Are forced upon us by our impudent crimes.

These tears are shaken from the wrath-bearing tree.


GravatarBut you've got to admit, the president has access to more intelligence than anyone else.

Too bad none of it is his own.


GravatarHaving said that, it took me several years to recover my "spark" (as Thers puts it) after the death of my mother. I expect my dad's death will hit harder still.

I'll take my mother's death very badly.

I took my (first) stepfather's death that way. Fourteen years later, and I still miss him.

My real dad's death... Argh. My public reaction was: "One less bastard in the world, thank goodness." I wasn't kidding. He was a monster.


Gravatarmustachio man has a tux. FOX is festive.

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GravatarBut you've got to admit, the president has access to more intelligence than anyone else.



Haha!

Sorry, but that was hilarious.


GravatarNote that LJ has not addressed the relative "core"-ness of her novel....

TKK, ya think this Chief of Police thing is a steady gig? It's gotta beat adjuncting, what with the paycheck-free Januaries.


GravatarNYMary - That's a totally wise comment. My dad was a difficult person, but I continued to engage him and learned the way to deal with him, which included me just telling him in an unvarnished way when I thought he was full of shit. I had friends who would say to me, "I can't believe the way you talk to your dad," and I would just say, "hey, that's the way to deal with my dad," and despite the surface appearance of disrespect, it actually allowed us to remain close because Dad respected that, even if he never admitted he was wrong about anything. My brother just chose not to deal with him at all or little as possible, and I think Dad's death was a lot harder for him to deal with as a result.

Parents are just people who, if you're lucky, try to do the best they can and have good enough sense to figure out what it is they need to do. Any expectation beyond that is pretty likely to be unfulfilled.


GravatarEli:

Thanks for the interest, but I don't want anyone here falling asleep (unless they need to...).

I write for me, not for publication. The books I write are the ones I want to read. They're not literary masterpieces--I admit that. They just are.


GravatarEli,

So true. Using intelligence and Bu$h in the same sentence is a criminal assault on the human mind.


GravatarTerry C,
Yeah, we women save that word for special occasions. Ann Coulter's a cunt, though, no doubt.


GravatarThe dad was gruff and critical, but he really adored his sons. Bet your dad was like that but couldn't ever express it with words.

Peace.
bigvic


Like my Dad. What hurt was I knew he was incredibly intelligent.

But no, several years before, we got to the point of hugging goodbye and saying 'I love you' on the phone.

The turning point was at a dinner, after a few scotches, he stared grilling me about facts and dates of the Veitnam war and such, He expressed disgust at my ignorance, although I thuoght I responded fairly well.

The next morning, a real shocker, HE APOLOGIZED, saying sorry he was to rough on me last nite.

It was all down hill after that.

But enough of that before I start sobbing in my vodka, (don't know the smily faces)

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GravatarThe idea that the president is off the hook because of the mistakes of the CIA or because 'everyone in the world thought he had WMD' is the biggest distortion and lie they have yet told. I heard a democrat recently peddle this line. Democratic constituencies should have no tolerance for this big lie.


GravatarNYMary:

Since you seem so curious, they're harder core than DWD's stuff. No surprise. But one of them is far softer than you would believe possible for me. Go figure....


GravatarSo it's not a matter of them simply cherry-picking their weakest evidence to win public support, as one would expect those who are merely irrational and/or incompetent to do - they went with the best they had. Which was known at the time by anyone with a lick of common sense to be complete shite.

During the runup to the war and the Bush regime's incredibly dishonest propaganda assault on the American public, you didn't even have to read the foreign press to be aware that said regime was pathologically lying. All you had to do was read Walter Pincus's stories, which the presstitute editors of the Washington Post buried on p. A-19 or so, or read some of the Knight-Ridder coverage, part of which was buried and part of which was not.


GravatarSo anyway, Bill! What's the haps?

I hear there's a swingers party over at Cheney's place tonight, wanna go?


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GravatarOne other thought about letting go or parents.

We hung around the church so long after the funeral service that we got a late start for the cemetary. One of my dad's favorite sayings was "you'd be late for your own damned funeral" and as we were trying to get everyone going, I thought "how hilarious is this? Dad - late for his own funeral because of us." It gave me a little something to chuckle about and help break the mood for my mom and sisters.


Gravatar TKK, ya think this Chief of Police thing is a steady gig?

It's a lifetime contract.*






*Lifetime in Al Anbar province = 3 weeks.


Gravatar
All that was needed to detect the lying, at the time and every day since then, was common sense.
Jennifer


Yup. Why so many people seem to have deliberately turned theirs off is a mystery to me. You don't have to be very bright to see through the Bush administration's lies. They're practically rubbing our noses in it.


GravatarHow could the president blame the CIA for faulty intelligence, he gave "The Medal of Keeping Your Mouth Shut" I mean "Freedum" to Tenet, recently.


Gravatar(Psst! LJ! I write secret stuff too! No one gets to see it, not even Thers, though I suspect he sneaks peeks when I'm not around. I'm just yanking your chain because I know you're a woman in touch with your animal side. My stuff's pretty racy.)


GravatarOrbitron, you're forgetting the real issue. Gay people eat babies and ruin the economy!!!

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GravatarGay people eat babies and ruin the economy!!!

That's horrible! What kind of inhuman monsters would try to ruin our economy?


GravatarNYMary:

Ha, I know what you mean about not showing your stuff to anybody. My writing is like a diary, almost, even though it's not about me. Still, the thought of someone looking at it is like having Dick Cheney or Liddy Dole digging through my undies drawer. Blech!


GravatarI guess I'm one of the lucky few, because everything important that I know, I learned from my father. He's a very wise man.


GravatarMcKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter: "I don't think that's right."


reminds me of the stupid baptist asshole terry gross had on the other night saying that it was wrong for anyone to think that bush misled the public, because at the time EVERYONE believed that saddam had WMD.


GravatarHoyt, the medal of freedom was given to those nozzles before the Columbia crew was even nominated.

BushCo makes me sick. I know that a medal doesn't mean much for the space shuttle crew, but for fuck's sake! Bush is honoring the twits that gave us bad info, created a complete goatfuck in Iraq, then quit their jobs?


GravatarI hear there's a swingers party over at Cheney's place tonight, wanna go?


He's going to wear his big parka for me (with nothing on under it) and we're going to play, whose nose is that.


GravatarKarin:

I'm the opposite. I learned to do the opposite of everything my father did, and my life would be a lot happier--and is. One CAN learn from a fool.


GravatarSilly Orbitron. Babies are all fat.

Anyone who didn't get a chance to offer a caption to yesterday's babyblogging should hit my homepage link. Seriously.


GravatarAll that was needed to detect the lying, at the time and every day since then, was common sense.


Like when my sister married her asshole conman husband, and after they divorced amidst much pain and anguish, I told her that I knew he was a worthless SOB from day one.

"Why didn't you tell me that then?" she asked.

I replied, "Because you wouldn't have listened."


I wonder how bad it has to get before most people realize that they've been conned.


GravatarWe're still recovering from the lies from the Clinton Adm.


Gravataragave, Ripley,

Your dads didn't know how to express their love the way that today's man does. They loved you dearly, of that I am sure.


Ok, and remember this: THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL!! (Tom Hanks movie line, in case I sound nuts.)


GravatarNYMary--Done.


GravatarI still say who ever wins goes boom in less than 30 days. Then on the news, Oh the tragedy! Bushit.


Gravatarshut up! shut up!

whose nose is that, should have been, who's nose is that?


GravatarStill, the thought of someone looking at it is like having Dick Cheney or Liddy Dole digging through my undies drawer. Blech!

I still get angry over Ken McStarrthy's goons rifling through Chelsea Clinton's underwear drawer, looking for her mom's missing copy of those billing records.

Not to mention the fact that those records eventually confirmed Hillary's testimony...and I believe McStarrthy had already had access to another copy of the records.


Gravatar..and Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower.... I could go on and on.

Wow.. an admisnistration lied that NEVER happens do it????


GravatarKarin,
I thought my dad was a fool for a long time, and I changed my mind, but partly because he changed too. A lifelong registered Republican and a Marine--donated money to the Kucinich campaign this time around. He's a born-again lefty idealist. Plus, he loves to come up and putter around our house fixing things--I ain't stopping him. Though he did catch me and Thers on the couch recently.... oops.


GravatarJust make sure Grandma Bush stays away from me!

She's plays too rough.


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GravatarTroll logic: Two wrongs DOES equal right!


Gravatar
Orbitron, you're forgetting the real issue. Gay people eat babies and ruin the economy!!!
Ripley


I'm surprised they haven't started hinting that Saddam is gay.


GravatarI had always thought that liberal/leftist politics ran in the family, but judging by the people here, it seems like a lot of apples rolled WAY down the hill from the tree.


GravatarPerson posting as Bill O'Reilly:
You fucked up. O'Reilly would never admit a mistake!


GravatarWow.. an admisnistration lied that NEVER happens do it????
Troll


Washington didn't lie. He even said so.


GravatarAbsolutely, Vic - he was pretty rough on me when I screwed up but gave me a very good life, compared to what some kids get.

It's a shame it took so long for his lessons to sink into my thick skull.


GravatarLJ: No that's lefty logic. Dem lies OK Rep. lies bad.

A lie is a lie don't matter if anyone die!!!


GravatarI am tiresome. You, name stealer. I dare you to debate me. How will we know when the Iraq war is won, huh? Tell me.


GravatarOops, B O'R--correcting yourself to *make* a mistake--that's good!


GravatarOur government is pure evil. We're living under a criminal regime. I know this will come as no surprise to anyone here, but for some reason as I was driving this afternoon it hit me hard.

I'm trying to understand how this happened, how we have a cabal in control of this powerful nation who is putting the citizens of this country in terrible danger by inciting the hatred of the world, especially those who would do us harm, so egregiously.

I'm kind of scared, to tell you the truth, and I don't really know if we'll get out of this alive. A lot of people I talk to think this is just a crummy "phase" in our history, that things will be made right again, with the passage of time. But we're in a deep, deep hole and our enemies are multiplying by the second. I don't see how we will ever emerge as the U.S.A. we once knew.


GravatarTwo of them, actually. Neither of which would interest anyone here, most likely.
LJ


You crack me up!

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GravatarKarin:

It does run in the family. I just had the fortune of growing up around my mother's family. Even if they lived in East Texas, they were fervent liberals. It happens, even though some of the gunger-ho blue staters think everyone here is a backward redneck. Try being a liberal in Texas. That's when you know you're tough.

Then again, Molly Ivins used to say that the working definition of a masochist was a liberal in Texas.

Guess it depends on your perspective.


GravatarA lie is a lie don't matter if anyone die!!!

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


GravatarA lie is a lie don't matter if anyone die!!!


Lie 1: No Honey. You don't look fat in that dress.

Lie 2: Saddam has WMDs and besides he was behind 9/11 so send me a lot of your 18-25 year old children to die in a meatgrinder 5000 miles away from home.

Are you saying these lies are moral equivalents?


GravatarI'm surprised they haven't started hinting that Saddam is gay.


Remember when Saddam showed up in the papers, clean shaven and in a suit. They were talking about his upcoming trial. Fuckhead Rush made a comment about him being all dressed up for the Democratic National Convention. God I hate that guy.


Gravatarbigvic: Hoo boy. THAT was funny.

I hope that was in regards to the Chiclets/Novak dental premiums line, and not the recognition of Brother Jed...

Jennifer: Jeffraham - that's the one and the same. Did you know that she eventually married Jed and they had a baby? Last time she showed up at our campus they had the baby with them. Guess she had to drop the "born-again virgin" line then.

Maybe she hooked up with the folks who patented the Eventide Re-Hymenizer.

When I was working at Morehead State (yes, Phil Simms played football there -- love the cheers, btw), Jed & Cindy apparently made regular stops. I worked odd hours for a long time, so I'd normally not hear about it until after the fact. One night after a midnight-dreary, I happened upon them on campus. The crowd was much funnier than they were.
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GravatarI'm sitting here at the computer and all I can hear is my 23 year old upstairs laughing her ass off.

She's just gotten "The Office" DVD box set.

Funny stuff.


GravatarAlright, who posted the prog rock joke? Not bloody likely!


GravatarThe Cia did not give the president bad info. That is the lie, quit peddling it. THE REPORT THAT WAS PUT ON HIS DESK CONTAINED A DISSENTING OPINION BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT THAT HUSSEIN WAS NOWHERE NEAR A NUKE. Cheney talked Tenet into making slight language changes and other Neocons introduced lying iraqi ex-patriots to Tenet at the last minute that made up stories whole cloth about chemical and biological weapons. Even given this, Tenet's NIE clearly said we had NO EVIDENCE OF CHEMICAL OR BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS. The language change, the part that gave Bush deniability was this... ' We believe Saddam has chemical and biological weapons'. Which is decoupled from the sentence that says we have no evidence. The CIA is made up of at least 10 different intelligence agenies including the Energy department, State, Defense, Air Force etc. Some of those departments offered additional and scathing critiques of the Public claims Bush was making MONTHS BEFORE THE WAR. Bush has no one to blame. Any Democrat that claims Bush is not fully responsible needs to be defeated in the next election.


GravatarTry again, trollie. You're the one who brought up Clinton's lies when people were discussing Bush's. Clinton's lies aren't relevant here. Only Bush's. Clinton didn't send those troops into Iraq. Bushie did. You still can't counter Bush's lies. They're still lies. Bringing up Clinton won't change that. But you'll keep offering the Kool-Aid, and we'll keep refusing to drink it.

What's that about insanity being the refusal to learn from failure?


GravatarFuckhead Rush made a comment about him being all dressed up for the Democratic National Convention. God I hate that guy.
Hoyt C.


Rush is about as funny as a case of poison ivy...and just as big an itch.

I agree - I wish someone would shoot his fat ass into space.


GravatarIt's hard to think about politics while listening to Duran Duran...

I keep thinking about Kostner's "The Postman", Swayze's "Red Dawn". Isn't it funny how we used to mock the militia-types a few years ago?


GravatarHa, I know what you mean about not showing your stuff to anybody. My writing is like a diary, almost, even though it's not about me.


LJ

I wrote something like that once, more like a short story.
A diary of a serial cop killer, who otherwise lived an unassuming life.

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GravatarRipley, agave, sorry to hear about your losses too. This thread seems to be turning into a virtual wake.

My mother wanted us to throw a party and tell family stories after her funeral, so we did. My big sister and I picked out music to play, including some of filkertom's. Couldn't find anything at her place with "Rocket Ride" on it, which I really wanted to play. We also took Michael Longcor's Drunken Angel tape. I'm not sure if anything else got played;the sound system was downstairs and we couldn't hear it much up in the living room and kitchen.


GravatarDebate me, peon namestealer.


GravatarNO one DIED when CLINTON lied.

Hey, better a blowjob than a cocksucker like Bush!


GravatarAgave:

I didn't mean to be funny, really. I'm just realistic. I don't think they would interest anyone here. I don't lose sleep over it. I just keep scribbling, anyway. The journey is what interests me, not the destination.


GravatarBut you'll keep offering the Kool-Aid, and we'll keep refusing to drink it.


Or keep throwing it in their faces.


GravatarSo, ok HOW many euros can I get for 46 billion again?


Hey, can a get a bunch of those cool gold plated Churchill coins?



BG
C:\DOS\RUN


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GravatarWhoops

Shut up! Shut up! Cut her mike!


Gravatar Alright, who posted the prog rock joke? Not bloody likely!

(whistling, walking away, selecting Long Distance Runaround on my iPod..)


GravatarA diary of a serial cop killer, who otherwise lived an unassuming life.

I don't write in diary format. Sorry about the misconception. I was just referring to the concept of writing that comes from so deep within you and feeling so personal to you that it might as well be a diary.


GravatarHoyt C.

Nah, South Park already ran with that one.


GravatarHoyt, I read something that said We cleaned Saddam up so that when he goes to trial, he looks like the old Saddam for PR purposes. Have to make sure Americans recognize the horrible tyrant and all....


GravatarYou and Kos are two major reasons the Democrats are in the place they are right now.

How about turning off all the hate, all the sarcasm, all the BS, and actually listen to what he has to say.


Anon, why don't you shut the fuck up and go over to some freeper board?

You will be MUCH happier there with your own kind.


GravatarMy father will never die! Do you hear me God?!


GravatarTKK,
Should've guessed. Did you like "Mary of the Fourth Form"?


GravatarYes I do hear you Troll. Now go to bed!


GravatarI feel for those GIs that have to deal with Geraldo on the roof.

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GravatarNYMary: Alright, who posted the prog rock joke? Not bloody likely!

I missed it, but looks like Kenosha Kid took the blame... I'll scroll up.

So, you & Atrios both proggies? Have you heard the first U.K. album?
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GravatarGive that nice boy a cookie, you old crank!


GravatarI did like that song. Didn't know Geldof had it in him. I refrained from sending you "Riding With Mary" by X, "The Wind Cried Mary" by Jimi Hendrix, and "Mary, Mary" by the Monkees.


GravatarContrast & compare these headlines currently on salon.com...

AP: Iraqi president: Most people won't vote

Iraq's president said Saturday that many Iraqis will stay away from the polls in his country's historic election because of security fears and warned the vote will fail if Sunnis don't participate.

AP: Bush: Iraq vote will set global example

The elections in Iraq will set an example of democracy for the rest of the Middle East, President Bush said Friday.

"This history is changing the world," Bush said, speaking of Sunday's parliamentary elections. He spoke at the ceremonial swearing-in of his new secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice.

Jesus, our chimperor is a real piece of crap.


Gravatar"Geraldo on the roof"


Hmmmm, could that make it to off-off-off-off-broadway?



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GravatarEven if they lived in East Texas
LJ

Live in SE TX now.
People here mention going to church and region (christain, in conversation, like dogs sniffing butts.

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GravatarMrs. God

I know I know...


GravatarIt's hard to think about politics while listening to Duran Duran...

Duran Duran? I thought they got divorced.


GravatarMrs. God

I know I know...


GravatarTKK,
Thanks! The curse of a dirt-common name, I tell ya. There's a sorta famous poem with my first and last name--can't tell you how often I get that one.

OK, off to bed, all. Short night last night, long day tomorrow. Play nice.


GravatarSuite Sister Mary by Queensryche.

Actually, the Operation Mindcrime album is a beautiful testament to what's happening right now. Politics run amok, religious leaders trying to influence the government, assorted skullduggery and murder.

God bless the 80's - at least then people weren't afraid to speak up.


GravatarSlipping into alcohol induced stupor, determined not to let the loonie lefties at Atrios' place scare me...why do I come here? If the US was this bad, wouldn't someone stand up and say so? Wouldn't Clinton or Kerry or someone stand up adn say - this is not right - this is the wrong direction? I try...I really do..I...There...There...is...no...Hope.

There is Hope and Faith, though, Fridays on ABC!


Gravatar"This history is changing the world,"

All—is the price of All—


Gravatardieselcreek: "Geraldo on the roof"

Hmmmm, could that make it to off-off-off-off-broadway?


Perhaps, but I think this was mistranslated. Someone was actually saying what a horrible chore these G.I.'s were going to have, scraping Geraldo off the ceiling.
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GravatarThe End is near... a little too near... Take a shower, brother!


Gravatarwhy do I come here?

To what purpose, April, do you return again?
Beauty is not enough.
You can no longer quiet me with the redness
Of little leaves opening stickily.
I know what I know.
The sun is hot on my neck as I observe
The spikes of the crocus.
The smell of the earth is good.
It is apparent that there is no death.
But what does that signify?
Not only under ground are the brains of men
Eaten by maggots,
Life in itself
Is nothing,
An empty cup, a flight of uncarpeted stairs.
It is not enough that yearly, down this hill,
April
Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers.


GravatarI stand corrected.


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Gravatar"I tell you, those guys are the most crooked bunch of liars"
- John F. Kerry

THE PRESIDENT:
...
We've got a lot of big challenges ahead of us. And one of the biggest challenges of all is Social Security. And it's a challenge because if you're a dad, for example, of a 23, 24-year-old child, when that child comes time to retire, the system is broke. It's flat bust.
...
If we do not act, there's going to be a need for huge payroll tax increases, and/or major benefit cuts.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/r...20050126- 5.html

THE 2004 ANNUAL REPORT OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE FEDERAL OLD-AGE AND SURVIVORS INSURANCE AND DISABILITY INSURANCE TRUST FUNDS
Solvency
The combined OASDI Trust Funds are projected to become insolvent (i.e.,
unable to pay scheduled benefits in full on a timely basis) when assets are exhausted in 2042 under the long-range intermediate assumptions. For the trust funds to remain solvent throughout the 75-year projection period, the combined payroll tax rate could be increased during the period in a manner equivalent to an immediate and permanent increase of 1.89 percentage points, benefits could be reduced during the period in a manner equivalent to an immediate and permanent reduction of 12.6 percent, general revenue
transfers equivalent to $3.7 trillion (in present value) could be made during the period, or some combination of approaches could be adopted. Significantly larger changes would be required to maintain solvency beyond 75 years.

Page 4:
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/TR/TR04/tr04.pdf


GravatarMrs. God

I know I know...


GravatarNamestealer, debate me. When will the war in Iraq be won?


GravatarNYMary,

If your dad gets tired of puttering around your house, or you get tired of his puttering, may I borrow him? I could really use the help in the bigvic money pit.


GravatarIf the US was this bad, wouldn't someone stand up and say so? Wouldn't Clinton or Kerry or someone stand up adn say - this is not right - this is the wrong direction?

You would think so. But they're not. And I don't think I'm a loony lefty. Listen to Seymour Hersh. And so many others who are writing for highly regarded European newspapers. They're saying it everyday. We're propagandized to such an extent my our media that we haven't a clue.


GravatarAnother drink then, then off to war...uh...bed!


GravatarI had always thought that liberal/leftist politics ran in the family, but judging by the people here, it seems like a lot of apples rolled WAY down the hill from the tree.

My late dad was an enigma at times. He was a registered Republican, but mostly so he'd have some say in local primaries -- Democrats had absolutely no chance winning any office in our suburban Philadelphia town or at the county level. Voting Democrat in our town would've been equivalent to voting Green Party on the national level. However, he loathed Nixon, Reagan and Poppy Bush. OTOH, he was a practicing Catholic and staunchly anti-abortion, so in 1992, he wrote in Bob Casey for President.

But he didn't really seem to mind moderate Republicans, nor did I at the time. Heck, I even voted for Arlen Specter and Dick Thornburgh. But that was before the full-fledged Invasion of the Right-Wing Body Snatchers.

Now, I consider myself a moderate liberal Democrat -- though not a quisling Democrat a la Lieberman. I've cringed at some of the candidates the Dems have nominated for NYC Mayor, such as Dinkins, Messinger and Green.

So I guess I haven't fallen all that far from the tree.

Interestingly enough, though, in recent years, my old county -- and, I believe, my old hometown -- have gone Democrat for President. They voted for Clinton twice, Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004. On the county level in 2004, it wasn't even close: Kerry won 57-43%. Yet the county government is still 100% controlled by the Republicans.

My guess is that what you're seeing in blue state suburban counties like mine is similar to what happened in the South with the Republicans after the Civil Rights Act passed. At first only the presidential races will trend Democratic, then they might win one or two county-wide offices, and finally the Dems will start winning at the municipal level.


GravatarBrother Jed and Sister Cindy now have five girls, the oldest of which ought to be in her late teens or early 20s now.

Although I thought Jed was funny when he used to come around the University of Texas in the early 1980s, I couldn't help but hold him in contempt after he wrote this book about how great the White government in South Africa was (and by extension apartheid), etc. etc. etc.

And I'll never forget when he had a couple of devout female college students (denizens of the Baptist Student Union) in tears because he told them they weren't Christians.

Yeah, that Jed, a real firecracker.


GravatarAdios philosopher kings, thanks for the insight and the laughs.


GravatarWouldn't Clinton or Kerry or someone stand up adn say - this is not right

In case you missed it Barbara Boxer just stood up and called the Secretary of State an incompetant, lying, torture enabling shitstain.

And she's a politician and politicians don't usually come out and say shit like that.

Maybe some day America will get its reputation back. Maybe some day Russia will be a superpower again.


GravatarNite, Mary.


GravatarI had always thought that liberal/leftist politics ran in the family, but judging by the people here, it seems like a lot of apples rolled WAY down the hill from the tree.

Both of my parents are deeply conservative although neither (thank God) is religious.

I started out as a Reagan Republican, became a leftist for a few years in my early 20s, progressed on to being a centrist/independent through most of the 90s (didn't vote for Clinton once) and became a leftist again after I realized Bush exploited 9/11 to get us into a colonial war.

The apple didn't roll far from the tree. I'm deeply conservative inside but the current crop of "conservatives" make the current crop of "leftists" look good by comparison.


GravatarAnd maybe someday George Bush will finally be recognized as the great overlord of the entire world - I'll take my chances in the woods with the bears and wolves and deer ticks.


GravatarThe End is near... a little too near... Take a shower, brother!
Ripley

Not to worry that is my job... as well as being all wet... Oh sorry for W... He is gone...


GravatarSomething to think about. Well, for economist anyway...

http://www.optimist123.com/./ pho...ry_20050128.gif


GravatarOf course I grew up with "conservative" meaning "get the government off my back".

The current crop of Bush worshipping, fear mongering, statist, authoritarian assholes aren't real conservatives.


GravatarThe End is near... a little too near... Take a shower, brother!
Ripley

Not to worry that is my job... as well as being all wet... Oh sorry for W... He is gone...


GravatarI'll drink one for Barabra Boxer then - truely inspiring, and such a clear departure from the play nice politics we've been getting.

But will how many others will take up the opposition with her? I've only got so many beers!

Where's the fucking outrage? Everything BB said about Condi was TRUE and it did not matter one wit.

The President lies without consequence. The Vice-President lies without consequence. The Secretar...you get the idea...too drunk to rant...oh! the Press and Pundits fucking lie without fucking consequence!

Where the outrage? Where's my fucking beer?


GravatarJFK troll is still too fucking stupid to post a proper link.

Go figure.


GravatarBut he didn't really seem to mind moderate Republicans, nor did I at the time.
Years ago, I used to have a moderate, pro-choice Republican Congresswoman, and I voted for her. And some others in local elections, too. That type is extinct now.
I hope you're right about the trend, monchie.


GravatarAgave:

I live in San Antonio now. It's much better here. Not much. But a little. Still, I grew up deep in the Piney Woods. I can remember moving to Los Angeles in the mid-80s, and thinking something was kinda off about meeting people... Couldn't figure out what it was for a while. Then I realized what it was when I was waiting on a customer at a store where I worked, a tourist from Texas. Who asked me if they even had churches in California. Never mind that the mall where I worked was literally in the shadow of the Crystal Cathedral.

I realized that the problem was that the first question of the introductory script in CA wasn't "What church do you go to?" In East Texas, people ask that before they ask if you're married or have kids. And they don't think anything of it.

Why I'm glad I no longer live there. I won't even visit my family there. That's how much I despise it. My uncle has been joking about putting something in his will that he will leave me a nice chunk of money...but only if I go to his funeral there. I tell him it had better be six figures, or I'll just fax the order for the funeral flowers. And even then, I'll have to think about it...


Gravatarmmmm...

apples.


GravatarAaaaaahhh, the "John F. Kerry"-troll rears it's ugly head. Again. Sorry, troll, I'm not even gonna look at whatever link it is you're flogging, because I'm sure it's just your usual shit. Go home. That is all.


GravatarJFK troll is still too fucking stupid to post a proper link.

Go figure.
Central Scrutinizer

Prove it's the improper link then, moonbat.


Gravatar(whistling, walking away, selecting Long Distance Runaround on my iPod..)
The Kenosha Kid

Is the iPod not addictive? Lord, the time I spend making playlists and searching for music is ridiculous. Then I got an iPod mobile/radio device and complicated my life further. Oy.


GravatarWhat the fuck is a "moonbat"?

You right wing morons make NO sense whatsoever!


GravatarA strategically attached deer-tick can be an effective replacement for the tongue-stud!

The woods can be fun if you have no mirrors!

**Hick**


GravatarMy socio-political beliefs are all over the map but I just plain don't like BushCo. "Pull down your pants and close your eyes, and you will get a big surprise."


GravatarAaaaaahhh, the "John F. Kerry"-troll rears it's ugly head. Again. Sorry, troll, I'm not even gonna look at whatever link it is you're flogging, because I'm sure it's just your usual shit. Go home. That is all.
MisterX

Yes, by all means, keep sucking someone's ass before reading what was provided for you.

Moron.

Can you actually dispute the facts I have posted in the improper link?

Fuckwit.


Gravatar"moonbat"?

GOURDHEAD!

HAW HAW HAW!


Gravatartags, glorious tags.


GravatarProve it's the improper link then, moonbat.


Prove you're not a dickhead, freeper.


GravatarLovin' the breezy chatter in here!


GravatarTINH. 'Night.


GravatarWell, since the link goes off the edge of the page...

One can use a href or tinyurl to post links. But, given the idiocy level involved, that's probably asking too much.

Who cares what the idiot posts, anyway? It's not like anybody is actually stupid enough to follow anything a wingnut thinks is "factual."


GravatarTrolls... you can see their lips flappin' and feel the breeze but it's so hard to figure out what they're trying to say....


GravatarWhat the fuck is a "moonbat"?

You right wing morons make NO sense whatsoever!
Terry C

Terry C, I have told you at least 4 times what a moonbat is.

Put the bong and beer down, pay attention one last time.

Definitions
1. "Someone on the extreme edge of whatever their -ism happens to be." (de Havilland )

2. "someone who sacrifices sanity for the sake of consistency" (Adriana Cronin)

3. "... human whose cerebral cortex has turned to silly putty causing him or her to mentally slide down the evolutionary ladder to the level of a winged rat who is influenced by the moon and wants to suck your blood. Also not-so-affectionately known as a "Democrat"." (www.barking-moonbat.com F.A.Q)

4. Not liberals, but leftists. Whereas liberals are patriotic, leftists seek to undermine their national strength. Anti-war protestors, likely to call the US military "nazis," apt to blame the 9-11 attacks on a US government and Zionist conspiracy, are moonbats. Liberals who oppose the war, are not.

5. A poster at the liberal/progressive website Democratic Underground.
http://www.answers.com/moonbat&r=67


GravatarMy parents were both liberals and they really lived it; my dad was a trade unionist and my mom was a community organizer. So I came by it honestly!


GravatarYes, spend your lives in my comment section, my sheep, my wonderful sheep.


GravatarI started out as a Reagan Republican

Yuck. Just fucking yuck.


GravatarCalling people moonbats is taking your Lord's name in vain, isn't it, you cultist?


GravatarEveryone must read Maureen Dowd's column in the Sunday Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/3.../30dowd.html? hp

It's called Torture Chicks and, except for a couple of cheap shots at Clinton, it's devastating. One line: "However the Bush White House is redefining torture these days, the point is this: Such behavior degrades the women who are doing it, the men they are doing it to, and the country they are doing it for."

This is why every Democrat and any Republicans who still care about this country have to vote against Alberto Gonzales.


GravatarProve it's the improper link then, moonbat.


Prove you're not a dickhead, freeper.
Central Scrutinizer

Diversion.

The moonbats are good at that. Example above.


GravatarCountdown to the Iran invasion...

'Halliburton to End Iran Operations'

Click homepage for link

From Reuters
HOUSTON — Halliburton Co. will pull out of Iran after its current contracts there are wound down, its chief executive said Friday.
"The business environment currently in Iran is not conducive to our overall strategy and objectives," Chief Executive Dave Lesar said in a conference call."

MYOB'
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GravatarProve it's the improper link then, moonbat.

Teh funny!


GravatarHere's the problem I see with the current House o' Dems: What are they so worried about? That they might lose Republican votes? Hell, they know the Dem voters aren't going to vote Repub anytime soon, so why not show some courage and conscience? I'd rather be right and repsected than have people say "he's not a troublemaker".

You think voting for Condi will help you get any of your bills passed? Guess again, Dembot! Start listening to your consituents and vote accordingly. If you have a bill you want passed, it's up to You to get it passed - kissing BushCo's ass isn't going to get the job done for Americans.


GravatarJohn F. Kerry-troll

I'm sorry, did you say something?

I was busy sucking someone's ass.

HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!






gourdhead


GravatarDuncan, your followers are nothing but shills who suck your ass. All attack mode whenever something in FACT is brought to your "blog".

Dispute the facts provided or admit what was presented.


GravatarProve it's the improper link then, moonbat.

that's the whole point, bright boy: he can't, because you figured out a way to run your URL off the edge of the page, using the stylesheet that most of us are using.

and it's not clickable anyway, so why should he bother?

if you want any mindshare around here, the burden is on YOU to prove that you don't have your head up your ass.

tall order for you, I know.


GravatarPeon namestealer. Debate me. When will the war in Iraq be won?


GravatarA link for an economic outlook that is titled Optimist123?


I dont think so pal.

One thing we dont need is more optimism from a republican.Realism would be a good start.Reality would be doubleplus good.


GravatarI first saw this news on Wonkette about Condi Rice. Anybody out here have any more info about this.

http://www.vaginaldavis.com/ blog...688504995817949


GravatarArgh. Now I'm really going to devote myself to my novel. I might pop back in later. Depends on how much Ex-lax the wingnuts got from Rove today.


GravatarDispute the facts provided or admit what was presented.

Nobody cares what you think is factual, ass-boy. Go away.


GravatarWhen I was in college, a fundi wingnut used to hand out Chick Tracts.

Anyway, he decided to hand them out one Halloween to protest the Satanic nature of the holliday and a gang of drunken soriority girls in devil costumes started chasing him around and poking him with their plastic pitchforks.

I still laugh thinking about it.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 9:10 pm |


I was sitting in my dorm room on Hallowe'en night 1975 drunk as a coot when a sober young gentleman came in, asking if he could "talk with me for a moment." He told me he was visiting from Bob Jones University. I slurred excitedly, "Bob Jones! The golfer?!?"

It went downhill from there.


GravatarMy father will never die! Do you hear me God?!

Yes I do hear you Troll. Now go to bed!

God

(sotto voco)
God, dearest,

I'm not certain that Troll understands that just because You hear doesn't mean You'll do.

This confusion between Your plans and human wishes is prevalent in lots of places today.

Although You know all that, of course. Must be tireder than I thought. Will take myself to bed.

'night.


GravatarBreaking NEWS!!

Live on FOX:

An empty polling place.

More to come.


GravatarNot liberals, but leftists. Whereas liberals are patriotic, leftists seek to undermine their national strength

Can "silly" and "hateful" be successfully conjoined in a single sentence?


GravatarMy parents were both liberals and they really lived it

Mine, as well. They raised us to be tolerant, use our minds and question conventenial *wisdom.*

I came of age during the sixties and saw the Johnson admin. blow the Viet Nam war and boost civli rights. Very confusing time. And my parents set a fine example of doing charitable work and giving back to the less fortunate. I love them for that.


GravatarNoone can stop my sheep. They will do whatever I tell them too.


My lovely sheep.


GravatarWhat's the fucking point of your link, peon namestealer?


GravatarWilliam Milliken, former Republican governor of the state of Michigan earned my vote several times. A reasonable man who believed in fiscal responsibility, a clean environment for the Great Lakes, and a straight shooter. (Of course Bill, who still lives in Traverse City, endorsed Kerry for President.) Moderate Republicans could be good stewards of government. Darth Vader Dingbats cannot.


GravatarIt's election day in iraq. Wonder who's winning.

Good question -- but probably doesn't take a rocket scientist to answer. Let's see....

Chimpy stole the 2000 election -- most of the world has see the evidence for that. I know it isn't popular here to say anything stronger about 2004 then that there were "issues."

The success of the rest of chimpy's "plan" for he world depends on this outcome -- perhaps the success of his entire second-term agenda.

Secret candidates and polling places -- armoured vehicles demanding that people vote. Nothing "transparent" about the electorial system here. They are even encouraging those that don't live in Iraq to "participate."

If I were a betting man, I would place my money on chimpy's candidates.


Gravatar"The business environment currently in Iran is not conducive to our overall strategy and objectives,"

Read: Get the hell out, we're getting ready to bomb this sandy shit-hole into glass! Regards, ChenZilla.

Btw, nice corpo-speak - "..environment currently in Iran..."... yeesh, where do these corporate dimwits go to school and don't they teach English there?


GravatarNobody cares what you think is factual, ass-boy. Go away.
theodoric

Go back to DUmb-ass central and drink more koolaid, moonbat.

No comment from Duncan....very telling. (If he sees it) ;o)


GravatarI heart you, smallfish. Welcome back.


GravatarWHy does a troll come here and demand things of us?

SOunds just like a republican...Do this or I'll call you a mooonbat.

And for the record I am not a minion of anybody.I think for myself thank you very much.

Asshat.


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Gravatar
Mine, as well. They raised us to be tolerant, use our minds and question conventenial *wisdom.*
bigvic


Teh funny!


GravatarHey fuckhead John F. Kerry. No shit that debt burden goes down if you calculate it as % of GDP. What is your point?


Gravatar"blog"

Yegods and monsters! The term is in quotes!


GravatarNo comment from Duncan....very telling. (If he sees it) ;o)

atrios rarely responds to anyone here. why should he pay any attention to a garrulous asshat who can't be bothered to properly cite his sources?


GravatarMine, as well. They raised us to be tolerant, use our minds and question conventenial *wisdom.*
bigvic

Teh funny!
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 01.29.05 - 11:34 pm | #


Having been shot down by it's intellectual superiors, the troll resorts to name stealing, in a particularly lame fashion.


GravatarHow come the FBI haven't made one single arrest after all this time?

Do you think it has something to do with why Ken Lay is still a free man? I would have loved to have seen kerry win -- if for no other reason to see what crooks chimpy would have pardoned!


GravatarJohn F. Kerry = Hat = cumstain on the sheets.


GravatarAck. I clicked on a site and got a popup ad trying to get me to download a sponge bob squarepants screensaver.

GORDON. You're right. The internets is trying to make me gay. The leftist jewish homosexual america hating conspiracy is real!!!


Gravatarclio... I see you have been reading... Very good! However the wife seen to be upset with my current focus...

Go figure...


GravatarWHy does a troll come here and demand things of us?

SOunds just like a republican...Do this or I'll call you a mooonbat.

And for the record I am not a minion of anybody.I think for myself thank you very much.

Asshat.


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smalfish

Wrong, I was raised a democrat. Remember Sen. Sam Nunn, Zell Miller?

The original JFK?

REMEMBER, STRONG ON DEFENSE?!

DUh, Duh, DUmb-ass.


GravatarMy mother was a liberal who lived it as well. She went to the segregated schools and vaccinated children. She went to the homes of the poor and ran tests on them, gave them nutritional and medical advice.

My uncles are also liberals. They have served their country in the military and in civilian life. Funny, they can't stand Bush. They believe 9/11 was a horrible failure of policy and practice by the Bush Administration. They believe the Iraq war is a disaster, and they think that the social and economic policies are putting this country in the toilet.

Guess that makes 'em lefties...


GravatarRepublican John Kerry poster - did it occur to you that you're also spending your Sat nite in here? Whereas we enjoy each other's company and some generally lighthearted conversation, you're spending your time trying to argue with people that don't share your views. It's your time and all, I just think it's odd that you're here criticizing us for being here.

As for Duncan, I'm sure that if he knew you were here he'd come running right away to salvage his reputation against your biting and insightful wit, lest you prove to the world that he's somehow a lesser person than you are... based on some typing in a web log and all.


GravatarI had zero influence from my mom growing up. I didn't have a dad.

I had to figure things out for myself. My mom, to this day, claims that she allowed me to live my own life and make my own mistakes. Which somehow was considered a parenting program.

Food, shelter, 18? You're atta here!

Without any influence politically from my family, I came out a liberal. Why? I believe in Jefferson's vision for America. And populism is really a lifestyle for those of lower income.

Any of my friends with mean-grumpy dads ended up Repubs. Go figure.


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GravatarThe omelet gets bigger:

99 broken and 391 cracked eggs.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/ mi...lties_jan05.htm


Gravatarclio... I see you have been reading... Very good! However the wife seen to be upset with my current focus...

Go figure...


GravatarYou don't seem to want to respond to me, namestealer. Funny, since I'm the only one actually challenging you.

And strong on defense. Like letting 9-11 slip through your fingers? 3000 dead Americans. Yeah, that's strong on defense.


GravatarDUh, Duh, DUmb-ass.
John F. Kerry



Stright from the horses' ass.


GravatarAnother of those dems that care.


Gotta love em,till ya gotta shoo em out the door.


GravatarJohn F. Kerry = Hat = cumstain on the sheets.
smalfish

Nothing like your shills to respond with fact, huh Duncan?

Fucking Morons.


GravatarSo I'm sitting in the theatre with an amigo tonight waiting for the curtain, and who walks in and parks himself down on the aisle? Alec Baldwin, all by himself. No biggie, I see him around town, used to work out at my gym. Totally approachable, if that's your thing.

However.

Toward the end of the third act, I notice a woman in the third row stagger to the aisle and collapse. I don't have any kind of medical expertise, but my instinct is to get up and help in any way that I can. Who beats me to the punch? Mr. Baldwin. He leaps up and runs down the aisle to help her up and out into the lobby while an usher calls 911.

What was really sick was my first thought -- I bet he's doing that to give his career a much needed shot in the arm.

Sigh. I blame Bush. He has made me totally cynical.


GravatarWrong, I was raised a democrat.

This is how you make a link.

An unfortunate byproduct of George W. Bush's political strategy is that his success has depended on moving the base of the Republican Party down into a demographic that should by all rights be Democratic.

That's right, I'm talking about the moron vote.


GravatarWhat about the equation wasn't factual?


GravatarStright from the horses' ass.
Central Scrutinizer

I think you're missing an "a", and also a fucking clue.

Moonbat.


GravatarWow, that WAS a pathetic attempt at namestealing.

The troll needs to try to refute the facts here.

Run along now, troll.
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GravatarHey, asshat. I'm talking to you.

Bush is strong on defense when he's losing the war in Iraq? Ha. Ha. Ha ha ha ha ha.


GravatarSaying Bush is strong on defense is like saying the drunken fool who picks a fight in a bar and gets his ass kicked is an "expert on martial arts".


GravatarWow, Catch larry kudlow gushing about the phenomenal turnout as a picture of an empty polling place is shown next to him.......Fucker is delusional.


GravatarAnd yes, complain to someone about the idiot manager. Get him fired for being an asshole.

By all means yes -- maybe post who to contact here so more of us can see if this is really something that restaraunt operator tolerates (or if MdD's does).

On the other hand, maybe the people the leave those tracts and those that read them buy TONS OF CRAP TO EAT TOO, so maybe its all just a clever marketing campaign. Inquiring minds want to know.

Nothing would surprise me at fast food chains -- I quit eating at them years ago. Have you ever heard teenagers share their "horror stories." Many hate those jobs and take it out on the customers for amusement. I, for one, would never ask for anything, "my way!"

That industry is so abusive to their managers -- that I would not be surprised if some of them are just plain nuts.


Gravataryou're spending your time trying to argue with people that don't share your views

at least with one hand.


GravatarSWR, leave Iron Fist out of this. He was touching up his lipstick and got suckerpunched !


GravatarI have yet to see one fact from your shills, Duncan.

Nice...Very nice!

Idiots.


GravatarWow, watertiger. So how is Alec looking nowadays?


GravatarBush is always bombed but pretends he is sober.

Do you think god tells him to drink?


GravatarI'm proud to be a "Moonbat."

If I ever get a tattoo, that's what it will say.



Disclaimer:


*Unless you're sucking my cock, it won't be visible.


GravatarThe only way we're gonna see a bustling and happy Iraqi polling place will be with the help of Central Casting. Who's gonna risk their lives to cast a vote there?


GravatarBush is strong on defense when he's losing the war in Iraq

What passing-bells for these who die as cattle?
Only the monstrous anger of the guns.
Only the stuttering rifles' rapid rattle
Can patter out their hasty orisons.
No mockeries for them; no prayers nor bells,
Nor any voice of mourning save the choirs,—
The shrill, demented choirs of wailing shells;
And bugles calling for them from sad shires.

What candles may be held to speed them all?
Not in the hands of boys, but in their eyes
Shall shine the holy glimmers of goodbyes.
The pallor of girls' brows shall be their pall;
Their flowers the tenderness of patient minds,
And each slow dusk a drawing-down of blinds.


GravatarWow, Catch larry kudlow gushing about the phenomenal turnout

I would guess the phrase "vote with a bullet" is a surrealistically bad joke over there.

Freedom is on the march - in a basement room at the Pentagon.


GravatarOh, the troll needs to check out the facts in this link too.


Gravataryou're spending your time trying to argue with people that don't share your views



There's a difference between someone who doesn't share you views and someone you despise.

My father's a Republican who voted for Bush and I argue with him all the time.

Charles Johnson, Glenn Reynolds and the like are people who make my skin crawl. It's senseless for me to argue with them.

The key difference for me is state worship. My father got suckered into voting for Bush because of the fucking Kerry is a traitor campaign but he's still fairly skeptical of the government in general.

Most of our current crop of "conservatives" are state worshippers, authoritarians who believe that if you doubt anything the government says, you're a "conspiracy theorist" and a "moonbat".

In fact, I have common ground with a lot of conservatives. Statists and cultists and power worshippers need therapy not an argument.


GravatarThe Lipstick Crew seems to be out in force tonight, asprawl OIF2 while they daub away with Radiant Rose. The Office of Government Propaganda must be hiring, bigtime. And I've only glanced at TV news a few times today, and was truly amazed at the pervasive election coverage, which shouldn't be amazing really, since it's the sort of topic and coverage that can be bullshat at length at a safe distance from the action, and reality.

But this makes plain how important the framing and perception of elections in Eyerack are to President aWol's gang, and the horrorshow they have in mind for the next few years.
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GravatarThe only way we're gonna see a bustling and happy Iraqi polling place will be with the help of Central Casting.

cue faux news and its bent-over team...


GravatarThis is comforting: Bill Gates Bets Billions On Buck Going Bust

The scariest part is that he is a chimpy supporter -- they got him "off the hook" against the monopoly charges that were initiated under Clinton. If gates is moving his money -- you know his wealthy friends are. This in and of itself will be detrimental to our economy -- chimpy's policies make it even worse.


GravatarKarin,

He's a bit chunky, and was wearing the thickest set of glasses I'd ever seen. I thought my eyesight was bad.


GravatarI would assume that FOX and the administration would work together to get MANY Iraqis to the FOX camped polling areas.

Armored little yellow buses anyone?


GravatarKarin,

And Brooke Adams was sitting in the row in front of Alec. There was some guy from a sitcom in the second row, but I had no idea who he was. Some woman behind me I.D.ed him.

I was there as a guest of the show's PR people. I guess others were, too.


GravatarWatertiger,

For shame! Celeb sightings in NYC are cool, for the most part. I rode in an elevator, alone, with Dustin Hoffman several years back. 68 floors and the conversation was friendly and lively. Ya don't get all that OMG!!!!! shit going on in the city and celebs are given much more space to just move about on their own than in Arnoldville.


GravatarFreeper John Kerry - did it ever occur to you that maybe we just don't give a shit about debating you? You've shown that you don't regard us as people to have an intelligent discussion with, so why not just sod off and play on the freeper boards? There's no hate here but you're quite the tiresome little brat.


GravatarEpitaph On A Tyrant

W. H. Auden

Perfection, of a kind, was what he was after,
And the poetry he invented was easy to understand;
He knew human folly like the back of his hand,
And was greatly interested in armies and fleets;
When he laughed, respectable senators burst with laughter,
And when he cried the little children died in the streets.


GravatarI'm sure I speak for all of us here, aside from trolls, when I say that Atrios has never told me what I should believe. My own common sense did, as noted in my post at 10:04. All Atrios did was a huge public service for me and others who, not having surrendered all critical thinking faculties, were able to find out that there were other people out there who saw through the bullshit as well, rather than surrendering to their basest emotions (fear & hate) and allowing those to turn them into whimpering pussies masquerading as tough guys. As much as it sucks being wrong after you've tried to bully all the dissenters who were right all along, you merely compound the problem by continuing to repeat what is known far and wide to be lies and fabrications. It's not good for your mind to twist it like that in the service of beliefs that any rational person would adjust as new evidence dictated. But hey, we know, thinking is hard work. It's hard, I tell ya.

It's not our fault that you are either too lazy or simply refuse to use the brain the good Lord gave you. Atrios doesn't enter into it at all, because unlike those who suckle from the rwing media machine, people who actually use their brains don't need to be told what to believe. If you think otherwise, tell us who on the left is providing the daily stream of talking points, ala Rush, O'Reilly, Hannity, et al. You can't, because the few media (or other) voices that are genuinely progressive don't have access to the airwaves that the rightards have.


GravatarI heard that he put on some weight.


GravatarLove your style, Jennifer


GravatarWhat? There's a troll here? I didn't notice.

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Gravatar"The business environment currently in Iran is not conducive to our overall strategy and objectives," Chief Executive Dave Lesar said in a conference call."

Just wait till we start the war and start handing out the no-bid multi-BILLION dollar contracts that require no meaningful accoutability as to where that money goes. The "business environment" will improve dramatically.


Gravatarbigvic,

i've never had any interaction with him personally. From what I understand, he's very friendly.

I rode up in an elevator with Al Pacino and didn't give him the time of day. All I kept thinking was, "God, he's really short!"

As I like to think, they sit on the toilet like everyone else.


GravatarLJ,
Yeah the Piney Woods.
We're just south of Conroe.

I love it here tho.
It's humid and hot in the summer but winter is wonderful. I love the vegetation. The neighbors are gracious.
I just keep my politics to myself and my honey.

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GravatarI walked it to the reality based world on purpose.I saw that damned "Mission Accomplished" banner and thought to myself,this is buillshit.I promptly went in search of the "truth".I looked at many different web blogs and saw what was being spouted on both sides and came to the realisation that I dindnt like what the righty blogs and "news outlets" were trying to push off on me.It was then that I realised that I am in nature a liberal,I just never knew it.Atrios gives me an insight into who I am and what it is I believe in.He doesnt tell me what to believe.He makes me find out for myself,without any interference.Unlike the right,that wants me to buy into their belief system without question.


GravatarAhhh,

Fox now has footage of Iraqi soldiers voting.

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GravatarAs the walls are closing in
And the colors fade to black
And my eyes are falling fast and deep into me
And I follow the tracks that lead me down
And I never follow what's right
And they wonder sometimes when they see all the
Sadness and pain the truth begins to light

CHORUS
'Cause I can't see no reason
What is blind cannot see
'Cause I want what is pleasin'
All I take should be free
What I rob from the innocent ones
What I'd steal from the womb


If I cried me a river of all my confessions
Would I drown in my shallow regret
As the walls are closing in
And the colors fade to black
And the night is falling fast and deep into the sea
And in the darkness all that I can see
The frightened and the weak
Are forced to cling to mistakes they know nothing of
At mercy are the meek

CHORUS
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As usual, my mind heard slightly different lyrics but the chilling sounds of amoral victory cries from the vapid, souless right made me think of this spooky tune.


GravatarEverybody here waxes apopleptic about the Bush. I tell you that this will pass. He may have escaped the assassin Rold Gold Pretzel, but death by Stihl chainsaw is a virtual certainty. This will come to pass in most of your lifetimes. If you look closely at photos you will see that he has a prothetic pinky and ring finger on his right hand. It's been a popular misconception that Laura's private pet name for George, "Three Finger George", is in reference to his mastubatory technique. The reality is less prurient...Mr. Bush, the Brush Clearing President, accidentally cut off while trying to saw the horns off a steer. Once an Aggie, even if only in spirit, always a serial violator of ungulates.


GravatarShit, am I hearing this right?
Total lack of voters in Iraq.
Well I guess it's early.

Well, lots of voters in the Kurdish areas.


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GravatarWatertiger,

Dustin Hoffman is way short, as well. I'm only 5'8 and I towered above him. Love the city. It's a great place to be left alone.


GravatarFWIW, when the war started I was against it and was part of the "focus group" but had a niggling suspicion that maybe there really was a surprise that the cabal was going to whip out. Then Rumsfeld gave that "north, east, south and west somewhat" answer and I knew with absolute certainty that they were lying and had at best no idea whether there really were WMD's and at worse were certain there weren't and took us to war anyway. Nobody who really knew would have answered that way. He could have just said that they were around Tikrit (sp?) and that would have been enough, but he had to embellish it.

And that means he was not only lying, but he's a clumsy liar besides. And that in turn led me to believe that their world wasn't the same color as ours. They didn't practice the lies because in their world it wasn't necessary.

And that makes me very much afraid of how much else is different in their world. Like survivable nuclear wars and democratic reforms in China....


GravatarI need to get into the city more often. I want to see the new MOMA, but I hear they're charging a fortune for admission.


GravatarJennifer,

Right on.

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GravatarIraqis stayed home because of Sen. Kennedy's comments. After what he said, they figured they would never have freedom.


GravatarBlast at polling station on Fox news.


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GravatarExplosion, that is...


GravatarI was just wondering why the Iraqi elections are being held on what is a workday for them. Then I realized, 70-80% unemployment anyway, so what difference does it make.


GravatarVoting in Iraq is a sick fucking joke. Think back to Bu$h's Inaugral and the obscene amount of security there. Now in Iraq, voting=death and there is no security. None.

Oh, dear leader, give us Liberty. What a fuckwad.


Gravatarany whiskey sours left?

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GravatarI was just wondering why the Iraqi elections are being held on what is a workday for them.

Well, considering that only about half of the population will even have polling stations available to them, and an unknown number of those polling stations are secret, I am going to guess that there won't be much of a conflict with anyone's work schedule.


GravatarI was just wondering why the Iraqi elections are being held on what is a workday for them.

Karin



Duh, when did you last vote?

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GravatarIraqis stayed home because of Sen. Kennedy's comments

Hahahaha! Yep, that's the ticket. Jeepers H. Christmas. Any idiotic thing will do in Bu$$h world.

Fuck this. Going to bed.

Night, loved ones,


Gravatari ran inot dustin hoffman a couple of years ago, myself. i said, "i remember you! you were in the graduate!"


GravatarOlaf,

you ok or are you mocking your presumed friends?


Gravataragave-most countries do NOT hold their elections on a workday. The U.S. is an exception.


GravatarStolen. You knew that, right?


GravatarAh, so very late. Had to read forever to catch up.

To Ahianne and Ripley and others whose parents have died - my condolences, and a toast to your dears from me. Both my parents have died, most recently my dad 12 yrs ago. I still miss them both, flawed as they were, flawed as I am. Tough to be an orphan at any age!

Monica - I got the Edna, was the second Rupert?

Jennifer, I am a big fan. You say things so very well.

Drinking story: had a friend who built a sailboat from scratch, sailed to Hawaii and back to Calif. Needless to say, one does NOT drink whilst sailing.

Got back...went to bar not far from where they docked. He said he started drinking Rusty Nails seriously, and the last thing he remembered, he was outside throwing up icecubes.

SD


GravatarGosh, I'll never be "frist", but I can always be last.



GravatarIraqi turnout is higher than those of non-voting red-state red-neck good ol' boys?

America has a Democracy.

Sure, whatever. Iraq can put on a better show in making a puppet state.


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