HULK SMASH
Daniel Okrent is a threat to America.
Thank God I got in there and posted before the "Frist!" asshole.
I's on third !
Like Rice pleading executive privelege when asked anout administration policy and then blabbing every sunday morning on the talk shows.
Doesnt Fourth get a medal or something?
Sith!
Orkent is right? Well, you know, even Haloscan works once in a while.
Can anyone tell me why that crazy bitch still has a job?
If there's an act of suppression going on, the price is of course incalculable. But I don't remotely think that is the case.
Gee, that would never happen at the Times, would it, fuckhead?
Fuck the New York Times.They have decided they want to be Bush ball likers,they can have the rabid right wing readers.I refuse to even pay them a visit.
Let me be the first to say bush is the worst ever. I’ll get to the 92% later…
Hahahaha. I was just bitching to RMJ about that hack before this thread came up.
Thanks, Ripley
I remember when The New York Times would not allow their journalists to appear on television. Ah, the good old days.
If that policy were still in place, I could dream that Adam Nagourney was hot!!!
13th.
Thank your lucky stars, Orkent's time is up within a few months. Maybe the Times will find a worthy public editor. Hahahaha.
Maybe Orkent will publish Judy's address?
I swear to Ba'al, I hate Judith Fucking Miller. I hate George W. Bush, too.
Pay attention to MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
Judith Miller! Queen of Iraq!
Judith Fucking Miller! JUDITHFUCKINGMILLER!!! SAY MY NAME, BITCHES!!!
I try not to buy the deadtree times ever since the hired Ken Starr.
Apparently it's ok to spend 2.5 Trillion dollars,but its not supposed to fight infectious diseases nor pay to help those that cannot help themselves,nor pay for Health and human services.It doesnt have to pay for national parks nor help fund police that guard us from people that would inflict damage or pain.
But , hot dam if we shouldnt pay the military alot more and fuck fixinig the environment.It is not worth fixing.
Wars= good
Helath of the planet = Bad bad bad.
This administration is beyond evil,they are corrupt,arrogant.Impossible to deal with and irresponsible.
Starvation to those that voted for this shit is all have as a response.
Sweet Sue,
It's not entirely clear the Times knows what JFM is doing behind their backs. That Tweetie segment was beyond the pale. She might as well confessed to being his concubine.
Oh, and Keller's got it wrong as usual. She's not protecting an anonymous source; she's concealing information about the commission of a crime. Two entirely different things, and just because the latter happens to be done by someone who calls herself a reporter, that doesn't make it a case of the former.
BTW, if Miller's out of line on this one, according to Okrent, is anything going to happen to her? Like, you know, anything that might suggest that the New York Times is displeased with her? Or am I dreaming here?
It's shock and awe freedom.
What smallfish said.
OT, but I've wanted to get this spread around a little for a while. Regarding the nominee for the head of Homeland Security, this scared the hell out of me.
I realize that we're all pro-torture now that Gonzales is our new A.G., but this is just disgusting. Imagine if we'd known, back in 2002, about what was going on in Gitmo. We could have. Chertoff made a point of concealing that from us.
Rule of law, anyone? Oh, I forgot, that must be "quaint", too.
This happened last Sunday, and it's just now being critisized? )Other than in the blogosphere of course.)
Wow, the NY Times is lamer than I feared.
Did she really fuck Chalabi? And most of the guys on that WMD search team?
I can believe in the death penalty for certain acts of treason, like, say, if it leads to the death of US citizens and other human beings.
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i've been to a million cities and they're all the same:
people laugh and talk the same,
girls all flirt the same, employees all dream the same.
love your grid and your comfort zone,
look out for the white-girl suicide bombers
look out for your time or your piece of mind
or entertainment above the fifth grade level.
stay ignorant and easily corralled through conservative reforms
'til we're broke from the half-measures,
taxed to the teeth to fund the caste system.
living it up for our stereotypes
and i know nothing, but at least i know;
while they vote green and drink their espressos,
discussing film festivals, all as a write-off. off with your head;
body loves the dirty work,
love your job, but it will never love you like an automobile,
fetuses, peoples, and angels hang the same on the mobile.
if it wasn't for the blindfold, you'd ask,
"what am i looking for, living for, breathing for?"
"who's them? not i, but it must be the plutonium in me."
-Sole, "Plutonium"
Ot
Spent half the day getting our little cat out of a tree.
Anybody have this happen and if so, did they do it again?
I, mean this cat rocks in her own way, but she doesn't come when you call, and hates to be picked up, so getting her out of that tree was a bitch.
It's so cool to go out with both cats and watch them romp around the yard and woods, so I would hate to make Zoey an indoor cat because of one youthful miscalculation.
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Perhaps if the Times or any other papers want to protect their "appearance" of integrity, they should insist that "reporters" be identified on camera as reporters, and not give their opinions; you know just stick to the facts. But then that would mean Miller wouldn't be able to say anything, since facts seem to be as foreign to her as say speaking African Tutu. She is such a tool. I agree upthread about her refusing to reveal sources, the point should be moot when dealing with a criminal investigation.
I had high hopes when the New York Fucking Times decided to hire an ombudsman to try to restore some shred of credibility to what has become a pathetic rag, and this after the relatively minor scandal involving Jason Blair.
Okrent has contributed nothing. He has been used solely as a funnel for complaints to the Times. He does nothing but defend the indefensible.
I suppose it isn't really his fault; the Times is too far gone and probably needs to be drowned and thrown out with the bathwater.
Thanks for reading it so I don't have to.
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Mentioned earlier, but here's more deets on the latest installation of "Bobo's World":
Couple May Sue Over Discarded Embryo
CHICAGO - A couple whose frozen embryo was accidentally destroyed at a fertility clinic has the right in Illinois to file a wrongful-death lawsuit, a judge has ruled in a case that some legal experts say could have implications in the debate over embryonic stem cell research.
In an opinion issued Friday, Cook County Judge Jeffrey Lawrence said "a pre-embryo is a 'human being' ... whether or not it is implanted in its mother's womb."
He said the couple is as entitled to seek compensation as any parents whose child has been killed.
The suit was filed by Alison Miller and Todd Parrish, who stored nine embryos in January 2000 at the Center for Human Reproduction in Chicago. Their doctor said one embryo looked particularly promising, but the Chicago couple were told six months later the embryos had been accidentally discarded.
In his ruling, Lawrence relied on the state's Wrongful Death Act, which allows lawsuits to be filed if unborn fetuses are killed in an accident or assault. "The state of gestation or development of a human being" does not preclude taking legal action, the act says.
Lawrence also cited an Illinois state law that says an "unborn child is a human being from the time of conception and is, therefore, a legal person."
(snip)
more here
Query: how good a Christian is Alison Miller that she doesn't take her husband's name? They ARE married, aren't they? AREN'T THEY?
FUCK,
Hecate, please tell me you are making a funny ha ha about the Times hiring K. Star. Please. I get that rag every day, and so far don't see Ken the Hun in print.
Do I have an explosive head situation on my hands again?
At several points during last year's presidential campaign, readers complained that one or another of The Times's political writers, appearing on TV, had said something that indicated they were biased for or against (in fact, almost always against) one of the candidates, and should therefore be disqualified from further coverage. This is not what you want your readers to think.
Sure, best to keep your readers in the dark so they can go on believing every reporter is objectivity personified.
If you're ever in Cody, Wyoming, just ask for Wild Bob!
woowoo!
He's trying to rehabilitate himself before he's thrown out the door on his ass in May:
"Look, she's worse than I am! And so are her editors!"
Bill Keller, he just wants turkee. Lots and lots of it. All the turkee that's fit to print!
AP Reporter Bucks the System, Reports Facts Rather than Administration Talking Points
Robert Burns, AP military writer, has his priorities in order, it seems.
While most of the (few) outlets reporting the story on Rumsfeld's 2x offered resignation buried the information about the war crimes charges against him deep in the story, Burns brings it to the forefront.
The New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights, which represents Gitmo detainees among other activities, recently added to the complaint the name of recently-confirmed Attorney-General Albert Gonzales. Also named in the lawsuit are such figures whom we've come to know and want to piss on the graves of as former CIA Director George Tenet, Deputy Defense secretary for intelligence Steven Cambone, and Generals Ricardo Sanchez and Janis Karpinski.
bigvic,
They hired him to defend them in some case; I forget which one. That was the last time I paid to read the NYT. Fuck them.
WSe need to quit reading the times,it seems that it may be the only way to try and get some credibility back into journallism.
Sort of llike not watching the cable news outlets.
A shot in the readership/wallet seems to be the only thing the corporates really pay attention to.
"Anybody have this happen and if so, did they do it again?"
Yes.
No, we got her front claws removed.
It was kinda funny when she tried it again.
agave,
As a cat worshiper, I just got to tell you you wasted your time. Sorry.
My cat gets his fat butt up and down a Hawthorn tree in our front yard several times a year. Hawthorn trees have 5 inch long, very sharp thorns all over them.
Your Kitty is begging for attention.
I'll happily join the Fuck The Times bandwagon, now that they've insulted my sister in their Weapons of Mass Deception movie review. They seem to have equated her concern for lives of the troops she was embedded with for being an administration shill, which is utter and complete bullshit. She thinks Iraq was a travesty, just like almost every other member of my family.
Fucking wankers.
Send a message of hope to the worlds children:
Free Tom Friedman
Thanks for the info, bigvic.
Sheesh. Someone had to go and bring up Tom Friedman. Can we deal with one NY Times douchebag at a time, please? 
While Friedman does make my ass ache, he doesn't have nearly the body count as Judith Fucking Miller.
OT but not so . . .
Fuck Bush and all of the people who believe that he is anything other than a cretinous crate of corrupt cytoplasm.
(Remember, it is a rule.)
DWD, nice alliteration.
Here is my view. There is a percent 92% to be precise that just don’t think. Here is the issue the 92% are the ones that don’t get it. We get it at time, but they don’t ever and that scares me to death. There are more people in red states that are part of the 92%. They just go through life not thinking for them self just going long with the stats quo, what ever Rush said is good enough for these types, oh my. The 92 percent are going to win if we don’t stop them. Blogs are a start a free flow of truth is a start. We need to see the 92% where ever they are and teach them about the truth! Bush is a fraud, dealing in the 92% leading to the gallows along with the rest of us. We must stop them, there’s how, and it is a BIG one. One April 20, 2005 we stop working every one of the 49% that did not vote for the fraud… we just take the day off….
We need to do something we just can’t just blog without doing something!
Try putting a dish of tuna at the base of the tree. Kitty will figure out how to come down pretty fast.
Here is my view. There is a percent 92% to be precise that just don’t think. Here is the issue the 92% are the ones that don’t get it. We get it at time, but they don’t ever and that scares me to death. There are more people in red states that are part of the 92%. They just go through life not thinking for them self just going long with the stats quo, what ever Rush said is good enough for these types, oh my. The 92 percent are going to win if we don’t stop them. Blogs are a start a free flow of truth is a start. We need to see the 92% where ever they are and teach them about the truth! Bush is a fraud, dealing in the 92% leading to the gallows along with the rest of us. We must stop them, there’s how, and it is a BIG one. One April 20, 2005 we stop working every one of the 49% that did not vote for the fraud… we just take the day off….
We need to do something we just can’t just blog without doing something!
Speaking of Okrent, did I miss the discussion when it appeared, or did no one see his 12/19/04 blog entry acknowledging that the Times had been extensively and aggressively researching the Bush Bulge, then killed the story at the last minute, right before the election?
FAIR's Extra! has a lengthy article up about it, called "The Emperor's New Hump: The New York Times killed a story that could have changed the election—-because it could have changed the election."
It's at:
http://tinyurl.com/4kag3
Okrent's blog post is at:
http://tinyurl.com/4mxxr
Okrent says the story was killed because they couldn't take it beyond speculation, but the FAIR story casts some doubt on that explanation. The story's main source ultimately gave his information to Salon, which published an article on it. But it would have had vastly greater impact, obviously, had it appeared in the Times.
(If this is old news, NEVER MIND. I just hadn't heard about the spiked Times story until today.)
RE: Judith Miller.
I think she's a spook. She doesn't act like a working journalist. Her assignments, her lousy reporting over the years, and now the Chalibi story being broke on Hardball......my gut instinct says she's working for the CIA.
In a previous life, I worked as a journalist. In a life before that, I worked in the Third World with a non-profit agency with a State Department contract When I was overseas, it seemed like about one-third of the State Department officers I met were actually working for the CIA--some were pretty open about it.
Anyhow, Judith sure reminds me of spooks I've met I've in the past.
RE: treed cats. None of my cats ever starved to death in a tree. When they got hungry enough they came down. Every time.
Your Kitty is begging for attention.
bigvic
If so, she needed it bad, cause she was up there all nite and till ~2PM today.
When I finally got ahold of her she screeched and clawed, but calmed down when I actually held her close.
Our other cat has never done this, He'll shoot up a tree then back down butt first till he can jump.
I think the problem is some cats don't realize they can go down a tree backwards. They want to go head head first, and so only have their 'thumb' claws for support.
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Here's the kind of speech I can picture Judith Fucking Miller making to her critics (courtesy of the movie "Scarface") :
What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don't have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There's a bad guy comin' through! Better get outta his way!
92 Percent
a) it wouldn't work, you'd just get canned;
b) paranoid thoughts like that are precisely why the freepi can seize on us as dangerous tinfoilhatwearing libruals. Find another board.
92 Percent
a) it wouldn't work, you'd just get canned;
b) paranoid thoughts like that are precisely why the freepi can seize on us as dangerous tinfoilhatwearing libruals. Find another board.
I'm sick of Judith Miller. She looks like OJ murder profiteer Marcia Clark. I'm sick of her constant phone sex with the John Bolton's of the neocon world giving her faux war rationale weaponary tall tales. She's like a cobweb cunted Jeff Gannon.
Finally, not slapped down enough...i.e. not fucking fired.
Meanwhile, Wolcott's been busy today, he skewers Michael Medved. It's priceless.
Way off topic,but kind of whats at stake for all of humanity.
Antarctic ice sheet is an 'awakened giant'
Seems as if Antartica has become an anti-administaration fanatic.
The massive west Antarctic ice sheet, previously assumed to be stable, is starting to collapse, scientists warned on Tuesday.
This is another in a string of ice shelves that have become unstable in the last few years.This one is one of the major shelves and is capable of really making things get ugly.
Ice shleves create a kind of dam that enclose major glaciers and witha shelf gone,these glaciers have no impediment to flowing strait into the sea.
I do believe that the time to try and repair the atmosphere of its Carbon excess has come and gone.
Meanwhile we have shills who insist that "theres nothing to see here,move along".What bags of wind believe this now are sure to run us off the edge of a cliff.
Cliff,meet humanity.
They [The Times] need to enforce a policy ensuring that no staff member will "say anything on radio, television or the Internet that could not appear under his or her byline in The Times."
Should be easy: those words are directly from the paper's "Ethical Journalism" handbook.
So, is Danny hinting that Miller should be punished for violating the Times' employee policies?
You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy."
Richard:
Someone already did a video of Cheney at RepugCon with that speech from Scarface. It was funny as shit.
What a blathering idiot. He could have made his point in about a paragraph and a half.
Have you ever seen a dead cat in a tree?
They can get down as easy as they get up.
on programs dominated by interrogators as insistent and adept as Matthews not at all.
wtf?
on programs dominated by interrogators as insistent and adept as Matthews not at all.
wtf?
You probably didn't see any of the ones with the thong and miniskirt.
Have I mentioned yet tonight that Thomas Friedman is a blithering idiot?
Too much. Too little. Too late, Douchebag Danny!
As I wrote in these pages last wk, that interview was set up by neocons or Judith herself, but not by Times. Judith was on vacation (she said). How would Matthews or his producers know that she had that info? Also those couple of days, Chalabi was on TV and NPR doing interviews. So this was a coordinated effort from neocons, Chalabi and Judith. She used Times marquee to push her speculation. When Chris asked her why she didn't write about it in NYT, she said she was on vacation. If it is a real scoop, would she not file the story, even from her vacation spot? She knew it wouldn't get past her editor, but Hardball is a bottomless pit.
Okrent lost me totally with the Times's weaselling this summer with AdNag's comment about the "transfer of power" causing a definite decrease in casualties. Getting the retraction for the obvious transcriotion of administration BS was like pulling teeth. And they never really did admit to the transcription...
Wankers.
Why do ice shelves hate America?
some girls just can't resist oily unctious lying millionaires.
Hardball is a bottomless pit.
Roger that.
If the NY Times fired Judith, would she then be considered a journalist and her records worthy of sealing?
hmm...
Wonder why Okrent is finally doing his job?
RE: treed cats. None of my cats ever starved to death in a tree. When they got hungry enough they came down. Every time.
Midwest Meg
Wondered about that.
Risking a 25 foot jump into pine needles, even, would be be better than starving to death.
But I've had 9 cats and have never seen this happen.
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If the New York Times didn't fire Judith when it made its weaselly mea culpa for its Iraq coverage, it's not going to. Not ever.
Most companies have a policy regarding employees speaking to the press, and I would think the Times has some such policy regarding other media outlets, especially if you're not even writing an article on the subject.
At best, it smacks of impropriety and a lack of loyalty to your employer. At worst, it would seem to be an ethical no-no that should be grounds for some type of professional reprimand. In either case, it hardly enhances her journalistic credibility.
I wonder if she's hiking up her skirt for the folks at Fox (snicker) News. (No offense to any of the lovely female readers here. I would have found a similar metaphor for a male journalist.)
If the New York Times didn't fire Judith when it made its weaselly mea culpa for its Iraq coverage
Republicans dont get fired.They just move up in rank.
The NYT is not going to fire Miller because it supports everything she has done.
They can get down as easy as they get up.
firefighter (yes really)
Well, besides the obvious observation that a dead cat would probably fall out of the tree...
I had one 30 ft up a tree for a week once, and I thought I was never gonna get her down. And as soon as i did, she hid under the shop floor for a few days. What is it with cats? Underneath or all the way on top, fuck that in between shit, eh? (Fruney's first nickname was the "Queen of Under Things")
Insurgents have killed 17 Iraqis and two US soldiers in a fresh wave of attacks, as partial returns from the elections show a Shiite alliance with ties to Iran rolling up a strong lead over pro-US prime minister Ayad Allawi.
When will it stop? 4-20-2005 workout
this may not belong here, but i urge you to pick up the weekend edition of the financial times.
view the front page photo of condidi amin dada rice.
bad teeth. and if you wanted a view that illuminated her consummate vileness, this is the photo.
i study on this photo and i think of the lamprey, an ugly creature in the sea that attaches itself to healthy creatures and sucks the life out of them.
so, that is who she is, condi the lamprey.
any arguments?
I don't know who's face causes a worse bowel reaction...Judith Miller? or Chris Matthews?
If it sounds like shit, looks like shit, smells like shit...MUST be shit
Insurgents have killed 17 Iraqis and two US soldiers in a fresh wave of attacks, as partial returns from the elections show a Shiite alliance with ties to Iran rolling up a strong lead over pro-US prime minister Ayad Allawi.
When will it stop? 4-20-2005 workout
Matthews is the sort of television host who will interrupt a guest about as often as he blinks, and his reliance on exclamation is roughly equal to his reliance on breathing.
That's so funny. Matthews' communication with his audience is like a man communicating with his dog; it's as if he's yelling "Here, Sparky, here! No, Sparky, down!" That kind of thing.
Quote of the day:
Hardball is a bottomless pit.
Roger that.
Hecate
Jeepers H. Christmas. True.
Sez Okrent: "...the paper has suffered a blow to its credibility.."
WHAT credibility?
If it sounds like shit, looks like shit, smells like shit...MUST be shit
Reminds me of the Cheech and Chong skit.
TASTE!
Hunh?!
TASTE!
OK.
Taste like dogshit?
Un hunh.
Must be dog shit.
How many of our intrepid reporters have had to taste dog shit to get along within this rabid world of right wing journalism?
Hmmm, I wonder what giant of journalistic rectitude the NYT will replace Okrent with...
Sully's name has been floated somewhere...
Here's my dark horse candidate:
Ari Fleischer.
"Judging by their absence from the paper, one must conclude that either Miller's Chalabi revelations were wrong or unsubstantiated or that The Times is suppressing an important piece of news."
Suppressing an important piece of news?!? No, no, never...
Imagine if we'd known, back in 2002, about what was going on in Gitmo.
Yeah! If we'd known in advance of elections, then the Democrats would surely have made a bid deal out the torture and....oh, never mind.
Miller dodged the second danger lurking in the television studio, when she wouldn't take Matthews's bait and tell him whether she thought the elections, as he put it, "prove President Bush right, yes or no, about Iraq."
That's why Matthews belongs in the same bucket as Tucker Carlson- because he would make a gross over-simplification like that.
How could one election, the effects of which are to be judged only a couple days after-the-fact, by itself, prove President Bush right on Iraq? Encouraging that sort of fifth-grade thinking that doesn't address any pertinent points or issues that have any bearing on anything- setting an example like that for a nation-wide audience-
that's a real crime.
Attaturk, thanks for the Wolcott on Medved heads-up. It's an elegant little stiletto up there with the best of H.L. Mencken.
"...I've never encountered anyone who considered him to be anything more than a minor nuisance, a chronic post-nasal drip."
Michael Medved-- a chronic post-nasal drip. Selah. But there's more.
It's funny because it's true.
Judging by their absence from the paper, one must conclude that either Miller's Chalabi revelations were wrong or unsubstantiated ...
When the fuck did that ever stop the Times and Miller before?
Whoa, did everybody check out that Nation link that Nora put up near the top of the thread?
From the article:
John Walker Lindh, the young Californian captured in Afghanistan in December 2001 and touted by John Ashcroft as an "American Taliban," was scheduled to take the stand the following Monday in an evidence suppression hearing regarding a confession he had signed. There he would tell, under oath, about how he signed the document only after being tortured for days by US soldiers.
That's some stuff!
"Times had been extensively and aggressively researching the Bush Bulge, then killed the story at the last minute, right before the election?"
In addition, I believe that CBS was planning to air a segment on AWOL's TANG record, but after Rathergate blew up, they cancelled the spot.
Interesting isn't it how anything that might cast W in an unfavorable light gets cancelled, but the Swifties bombarded the public airways for a full month? Dear God, I hate the SCLM!
YES, I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY, CHECK THIS OUT
Have you ever seen a dead cat in a tree?
They can get down as easy as they get up.
firefighter
Absolutely, 100%, wrong.
I've watched cats go up and down trees.
They go up with excited ease and come down slowly with caution, see, (channeling bush) their claws only curve one way and they tend to want to go head first.
get it?
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Here's one of the more interesting passages (in a piece filled with them) from that FAIR piece:
Efforts to learn more about the history and fate of this story at the New York Times met for weeks with official silence. Several inquiries were made by phone and email to Times public editor Daniel Okrent over a period of three weeks, eliciting one response—an email from his assistant asking for the names of Extra!’s sources at the Times. He was not provided with the sources...
So to recap: Okrent's main concern in the matter of the story that got spiked was: who spilled the beans?
so, that is who she is, condi the lamprey.
any arguments?
Not from me.
It annoys the fuck out of me that someone so lame, so incompetent, so foul is representing this country.
A pox on her.
Tweety is a slobbering fool. Pure and simple. For all the lah de dah about the SCLM, it does not exist, It just doesn't.
Anywho, off to read my book and escape the madness. My time Share in Bedlam had better be there.
Nite, dear ones.
"RE: treed cats. None of my cats ever starved to death in a tree."
Of course not, silly. That's where the birdies live.
Who are these people that are pimping Dilby?
Are they trolls?
When the fuck did that ever stop the Times and Miller before?
There's no question that her source was, once again, Chalabi himself.
Notice that Okrent makes it sound like it's all the fault of those mean old talk show hosts, they just bully our reporters.
No fuckhead, your reporters are all over the place, spouting opinion.
Judith fucking Miller should be fired and then shunned from decent society.
Actually, I'd like everyone of these warmongering fucks to have to have their hands and forearms permanently tatooed in blood red- so no one can ever forget the blood on their hands.
I'm gonna get out- this thread seems kinda dead, and I got my vent on for tonight- I've got nothing to say.
But here's that Nation link that was toward the top of the thread- I'm probably the last to hear about this story, but just in case I'm not, check it out because it looks like it's something-something.
The Nation - Walker - Torture -Chertoff
Later, all 
agave, I've had cats stuck in trees before. Usually a can of tuna lures them down.
Once they've figured out that they have a tough time getting down, they won't go up as high again.
Declawing doesn't work. It never stopped Nikki from climbing trees. He just wrapped his little toes around the bark.
Judith fucking Miller should be fired and then shunned from decent society.
Damn. Not only is it true, that almost fits on a bumper sticker.
I'd like everyone of these warmongering fucks to have to have their hands and forearms permanently tatooed in blood red
Is it just me, or did all that purple finger nonsense conjure thoughts of blood on hands?
No question this came from Allawi himself. He may have even been 'playing' Miller to make himself look a little more untouchable re his 'problems' with Banks and so on. Either way, she is a tool, in the literal sense as well.
Actually, I'd like everyone of these warmongering fucks to have to have their hands and forearms permanently tatooed in blood red- so no one can ever forget the blood on their hands.
In one of Orson Scott Card's Seventh Son books (good series - early US alternate history where folk magic works), the participants in an Indian massacre are cursed to have their hands bleed continuously unless they go up to perfect strangers and tell them all about what they did.
Sounds pretty good to me.
I guess I just always expected better from these people. I know they are not perfect, but could they at least learn a little about something before they decide to espouse inelegantly?
smallfish
No duh, they are trolls. Hope you have an active firewall and anti spam programs running.
PEACE
I think Condiliar's tooth-gap does a great dis-service to David Letterman
About the Chertoff-Lindh affair -
The ethics officer at DOJ has filed a whistleblower suit over her removal for exposing the fact that Lindh was questioned against her advice when he had an attorney.
I advised him that Lindh should not be questioned without his lawyer. That was on a Friday. Over the weekend, the FBI interviewed him anyway. DePue called back on Monday asking what to do now.
...
Chertoff and the Justice Department mishandled Lindh's interrogation, then tried to cover it up and went after me for doing my job. Chertoff should not be confirmed as director of Homeland Security.
A Whistle-Blower's Inside View of the Homeland Security Nominee
could they at least learn a little about something before they decide to espouse inelegantly
No. Then they wouldn't be neojournalists.
Besides, everything they need to know, they learn from daily e-mails from Ed Gillespie.
Sully's name has been floated somewhere...
"Everything floats down here..."
It's pretty fucked up when "reporters" are the news.
The Gray Lady is a sick joke with neo-con-cocksuckin' stenographers like Miller.
Declawing doesn't work. It never stopped Nikki from climbing trees. He just wrapped his little toes around the bark.
Sure. But that's hardly a good reason not to rip put Judith F. Miller's fingernails with a pair of rusty pliers, and then make her try to climb a tree to find those WMDs she was blithering about.
When White House correspondent Elisabeth Bumiller served as a panelist in a televised debate during last winter's primary season, some readers were convinced that her aggressive questioning of John Kerry and a head-to-head scrap with Al Sharpton demonstrated hostility.
Ha ha ha ha ha! Yeah, she was really asking the "tough" questions.
agave, I've had cats stuck in trees before. Usually a can of tuna lures them down.
fourlegsgood
Had a can of tuna in a crook of the tree not three feet from the cat, going, come Zoey come, but she just hunkered down.
Finally, and I hate heights, got the nerve to step off the top rung of a 16' latter and up on to a branch and just grabbed her with one hand, like a death grip.
The thing that made it urgent was we saw hawks or buzzards circling, (could have had nothing to do with the cat, but it freaked my GF out) and this is a little cat.
But next time she comes down on her own, or not.
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Agave,
When I have a cat up a tree that won't come down, I ignore it, go about my business, go back into the house, whatever. After a while, he/she will come scratching at the door. By the way, a declawed cat can't defend itself. If always kept in a city apartment, that might be okay, but if the cat has any access to the wide open spaces, don't do it.
So much more fun to talk about ordinary stuff than fret about the fascist takeover of the known world.
92%
Work stoppage is absolutely the only way to
stop this regime from taking complete control. It must be longer than one day.
One month. Unfortunately, americans are to are to comfortable with all of their things
and will never jeopardize their material goods for their freedom. Even the people on this blog who I admire and who know
that we will, with out a doubt be a facsist
society in the next four years will not participate in a work stoppage. We have to shut the beast down to win.
Send Jonah Goldberg Some Love
Or chicken feathers. Whatever.
If once, just ONCE, one of their (fucking) reporters would go after George Bush the way they go after Dems...
Kill the vets!
It was also a culture whose descent into criminality forced the Department of Veterans Affairs nationwide to reckon with what an internal memorandum in 2003 described as "systemic weaknesses in the human research protections program, especially in studies funded by industry."
I think it basically boils down to FUCK BUSHCO !!!
If you're looking for something to send Jonah, there's always this... or this... or even this!
Thaks Bigvic,I thought they were,just needed confirmation.Yes,firewall and all the latest blah blah blah.
It must be longer than one day.
One month.
Forget it.there is no way in hell anything longer than one day works.I for one,could not do more than a day.Hell,I am not sure I could do a day.I work for individuals,and when I'm working,I HAVE to be there.My reputation relys on my showing up when I say I'm going to be there.And my business runs off my reputation.
All that said,I can schedual one day,but its very tricky doing even that one little thing.
How to tell a paying customer,whos house in shambles from your hand you have to take a day off to protest the world?
clean sheets upstairs, too
Does anyone think Goldberg could use some anal suppositories?
Atrios- next time use the link generator-
http://nytimes.blogspace.com/genlink
Sure. But that's hardly a good reason not to rip put Judith F. Miller's fingernails with a pair of rusty pliers, and then make her try to climb a tree to find those WMDs she was blithering about.
There is no good reason not to do that. None that I can think of anyway.
Isn't the real question whether Chalabi and Boy Francis give Judy head on demand? I mean, even though they prefers each other and the brave oiled INC lads, a little female drizzle on the shizzle ain't too much bother when an NYT hack will ho for ya, eh? And Judy don't mind blowin half the East Coast to keep her job anyway. If Chalabi gets touched to be PM, Judy could become the official Whore of Babylon. (WOB)
my first thought when i saw the congressional repugs raise their inked fingers at the state of the union address was 'heil hitler'
Whore of Babylon - LOL!
Just one more thing I wanted to say on this:
I wrote:
How could one election, the effects of which are to be judged only a couple days after-the-fact, by itself, prove President Bush right on Iraq? Encouraging that sort of fifth-grade thinking that doesn't address any pertinent points or issues that have any bearing on anything- setting an example like that for a nation-wide audience-
that's a real crime.
Well, I think we all pretty much agree that the Times isn't really that great. But do you know what would make it great?
What "goes to" (as we lawyer-types say) the issue of the Times' value as a news source-
Why won't Okrent just go and (in passing, of course, since it's not pertinent to the main point of his piece) spell out why what Matthews was doing with that remark about the elections was wrong, like I did. Okrent obviously recognizes it, but why doesn't he be overt about it? Shed some light on this stuff. Set a higher standard for guys like Matthews to have to live up to.
NYT reminds me of some Dems who are trying to curry favor/acceptance, like Hilary appears to be doing now.
Look those loonies on the right will never love them. Those librul labels are there for life. Unless they do a full Zell Miller somersault into Dick Cheney's lap.
Okrent displays a unflattering naivete by his refusal to acknowledge the elephant in the room.
Does Okrent (or the Times) consider Murdoch's Fox a bona fide news network? Does he think for a New York minute that if Miller left the Times under a less than auspicious circumstance, her sullied reputation would prevent her from being hired by Fox, or CNN, or MSNBC?
His newsprint "adheres to a higher ethical standard" blather is laughable. Or did I miss reading the Times in-depth analysis of where and how the Times went haywire in the (ad naseum) years of their Whitewater coverage/persecution of a democratic president?
Oh, that's right. Clinton enjoyed blowjobs.
Never mind.
We wouldn't want people who "atrios" hates to be, you know, discussing things in public now would we?
Okrent schwaffles on the whole issue of whether Miller was lying to Matthews or withholding something from her editors, though:
Judging by their absence from the paper, one must conclude that either Miller's Chalabi revelations were wrong or unsubstantiated or that The Times is suppressing an important piece of news. If the first, the paper has suffered a blow to its credibility: Matthews introduced Miller as "an investigative reporter for The New York Times." The ID on the screen said "Judith Miller, 'The New York Times'." At five separate points in the show Matthews invoked her connection to The Times, as any host would.
If there's an act of suppression going on, the price is of course incalculable. But I don't remotely think that is the case.
So, Danny Boy, you said, "It has to be either A or B. But I don't think it's either A or B."
Then what the fuck is it? Will you let us know a