I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
"Liberal" in this case means five inches to the left of Attilla the Hun.
Oh, and FUCK BUSH!
Can YOU say "fascist fucks"?
KNEW you COULD!
(Paraphrasing the late, great Fred Rogers)
But, but it's the liberal media.
I like saying Heginbotham.
Now take off your shoes.
MM is doing really great work. Let's face it. There are no liberals on MSM. What we think of as liberal today is really just sort of a centrist, reasonable, Republican position. That is because the conservatives have pulled the dialog so far to the right that they've "moved" the center. How did they do that? By being outrageously conservative. Remember that the next time someone suggests Democrats would be well-advised to move to the "center."
Yeah Viacom, Inc. is a front for liberal atheist commie hippies just like General Electric, Inc. Disney, Inc. and AOLTimeWarner, Inc.
CBS = Conservative BullShit?
Looks like it's a good day to drink beer and fart till I pass out.
MM is doing really great work.
heeeeey.....I just realized I haven't been getting my MM emails for a while, none this week for sure. How did that happen?
centrist, reasonable, Republican position
please identify the "centrist, reasonable Republicans" I don't know of any.
Oh yeah, I forgot: FUCK BUSH.
One sure way to become a conservative is to age thirty years without changing any of your views. (Paraphrasing R A Wilson)
i.e. Change with the world, or become outdated.
Now take off your shoes.
"centrist, reasonable Republicans"
bwaahahaaaahahahahahahaha!! Oh, man, that's a good one. 
Now take off your shoes.
already done. i hate 'em and wouldn't wear any if i didn't have to. and i prefer throwing chairs.
Now take off your shoes.
I can't--I cut the soles out of them so's I could sit in a tree and learn how to play the flute.
Are you Joe Beats?
OT, but not really. Can we all agree that CNN (Cracker News Network) has offically jumped a school of sharks to become "Worse than Fox"tm.
Who is the worst broadcaster on CNN-Daryn, Rick, Kyra, or Miles? I'd say it's a toss up with a slight edge to Kyra. Who will ever forget her plaintive question about the armless little boy in Iraq-"but did he mention Operation Iraqi Freedom?"
Watching her aw shucks Okie from Muskogee interview with Richard Petty just now, made me hurl my Lean Cuisine. Apparently little Kyra is really upset that hard "likers" can sponsor NASCAR drivers!
Keeerist.
On Negroponte 95 Balt. Sun story.
this site had interesting links and comments. Fuck Bush
and did i also see over at media matters that Limpnuts had called Katrina vanden Heuvel a communist?
It's Happening.
by "liberal" you mean they don't make components for nuclear weapons, like Peter Jenning's employer? not sure what you mean by liberal here?
If you look at CBS from the EXTREME rightwing (like Freeperville and LGFreak world), then CBS is a liberal playground. If you look at it from the middle or left of center, then it is conservative/right wing, though not as radical as Faux News. It's all relative, don't you know.
hotbobschiefferstud.com
If it wasn't CBS, it'd be one of the others. Corporate Non News insults us all by proferring Wolf Blitzer (it hurts me as much to type as you to read) and Woodruff and Daryn as something to be taken at all seriously. They have had it in for Rather for a long time, though. Remember the hemorrhoid story? Standin' Dan?
If you look at CBS from the EXTREME rightwing (like Freeperville and LGFreak world), then CBS is a liberal playground.
True that. And you know what's just as scary? See the recent "Hannity v. the Freepi" post. They think Hannity's Gone Over to the Dark Side.
I'm glad I get to see all this. I hope I survive.
It's a great list, but it's not exactly news at this point.
Shoes for Industry:
Shoes for the dead?
(Damn, how many Firesign Theater people are there out there?)
Porgy Tirebiter, he's a spy and a girl delighter. Porgy Tirebiter, just a student like you. . . .
Remember that the next time someone suggests Democrats would be well-advised to move to the "center."
Hecate
word, goddess...
I've been paying attention for just over 40 years. There is just about ZERO relation between the 'left' of my youth and even the most progressive (public) voices today...
Nobody with influence on the 'new left' is opposing the war in Iraq. Everybody seems to be willing to countenance some continuation under some conditions...
and we don't want even to THINK about the economy...civil rights? social programs (cuz in this economic system, there can't be winners without losers)...the big roll-back...
have i mentioned in this thread how much i utterly detest, hate, and abominate these fucking goons?
Now take off your shoes.
Do you have a good arm? Is your aim true? Is Richard Perle in the same room?
(Damn, how many Firesign Theater people are there out there?)
"He's not your son, Fred."
I'm glad I get to see all this. I hope I survive.
Harrison Bergeron
Yeah, me too. And I hope a democratic America survives, too.
Do you have a good arm? Is your aim true? Is Richard Perle in the same room?
jrm78 | Email | Homepage | 02.18.05 - 3:44 pm | #
although my arm is good and i aim pretty well, i was wearing boots the day i was in the same room as feith. and the chairs were bolted to the floor, so i had to settle for heckling and derisive laughter.
And that bridge won't be built until free hands on both sides of the big ditch can push the same button at the same time . . . .
And remember, "It surrounded by a thin, thin, thin 16 MM shell. And inside? It's delicious!"
Organ Leroy, at his organ again
Dan Rather was, once, a real journalist - he actually said bad things about Republican presidents. Therefore, CBS is a bastion of liberal, commie, America-hating scum.
CNN, OTOH, is just plain pathetic. I'd love to hear the conversations between whatever passes for their business plannners and the finance people. Someone there has to have enough brains to know how incredibly bad their business model is. But they'd rather be Faux-lite than go after the underserved audience.
Hecate - Let's face it. There are no liberals on MSM. What we think of as liberal today is really just sort of a centrist, reasonable, Republican position.
I think you just described the present state of Public Broadcasting. A sort of a centrist, reasonable Republican position.
Put down that dwarf and hand me the pliers!
Blogging from the right hand of adolph= freps.
oldtvciaescortsm4m.com
*&*&^ T9(*&( Mff99-- electrician! Haha haha ahaha*)(%$#@(*
Bush. huh, huh
Porgy Tirebiter, he's a spy and a girl delighter. Porgy Tirebiter, just a student like you. . . .
Damn you, DWD - now I can't get that bloody tune out of my head.
Democrats will ban the Bible and force you to marry homos if you don't support the president's plan to give the Social Security trust fund to Wall Street.
I'm still trying to find that liberal media I keep hearing about...
Put down that dwarf and hand me the pliers!
What JD, wanting to leave a mark, said to Karl.
'Nick, Nick, are yout all right?'
'Yes, I am.'
'Then stop slapping me!'
Harrison - The Freepers eat anyone who turns the slightest bit leftward on any single issue. They have no tolerance for debate or perceived 'waffling' on their talking points. It is so sad really. But it is a wekaness we must exploit.
I've said it before, they have several schisms building we should exploit. They have (somewhat) rational evolutionists vs Jeebo-creationists. They have True Conservatives vs Zany Libertarians. And there are more. They are not a solid coalition at all, except in their hatred of all things leftwing.
'Be you ghost or goat, or ghost of goat or both...'
I say we do away with the news (cough-Bullshit!) and have SOS Rice perform piano recitals for us. That was one of her major qualifications for position as stated by most Republicans and the Democrats support the arts!
I'm still trying to find that liberal media I keep hearing about...
Maybe W can help with this. He really had em in stitches with his search for WMD's under the bed.
That's the dignity of the Presidency for you.
Just perused Kos, Americablog, et al. and am now officially convinced the JeffJim was fucking Scottie or someone higher up. The "shock and awe" scoop, the Plame scoop, the Rather scoop . . . I wonder if Scottie was being pounded while he sang these songs or was it the other way around?
"Don't torture me, Ethel."
Organ Leroy, at his organ again
"The little red needle's pointing to E. And while that's always stood for 'excellent' in my book..."
" How can you be in two places at once..."
Gee. I wonder if Mr. Guckert was a cock-teaser at Roosterama, paid to enrage the bantams before the big bout?
CNN, OTOH, is just plain pathetic.
True, flory, but it was once much, much better.
I wonder if Scottie was being pounded while he sang these songs or was it the other way around?
Freeperrama
JimmyJeff is an avowed Top.
Freeperrama - I think you're very close, but as well, that knowledge of the goings on, held by Rove or that ilk, presented a convenient method to implement an existing plan.
How do you like this Bullshit?
Yep, we have freedom of speech so long as we parrot right wing garbage and don't think or question.
"Move America FORWARD" - what a fucking joke!
I wonder how many of the uber-patriots in this story SHOULD be in Iraq, but aren't!
---------------------------------
ON THE HOME FRONT
New hanging effigy: Bush lied, I died
California residence becomes ground zero for protests
A California couple who created a national uproar last week by hanging in effigy a U.S. soldier on its home with the message "Your Tax Dollars at Work" now has a new message with the hanging uniform: "Bush Lied. I Died."
In reaction to the latest message, Move America Forward, the national organization that supports American troops and the war against terrorism, has announced it will hold a candlelight vigil tomorrow night at the Sacramento home of Steve and Virginia Pearcy.
The three-hour vigil, slated to begin at 7 p.m., is designed to show support for U.S. troops and "register our opposition and disgust with the hateful 'soldier hanged in effigy' display."
"Move America Forward supports the right of free speech," a statement from the group said. "However, the right to speak freely does not mean all words or sentiments should be warmly embraced. The hateful messages that undermine our troops should be treated the same as the hate that spews from the likes of KKK members – we must step forward and make it clear that these voices of hate do not speak for our greater community, and that we will reject them through peaceful assemblies of the community."
Iraqi and Palestinian flags are also being displayed in the windows of the home.
The Pearcy family released a statement to the media in connection with its original effigy, which eventually was torn down by an individual who scaled a tree on the property.
"There will always be people who are offended by political speech, and the most important forum of all ... is one's own residence," the statement said. "The First Amendment is meaningless unless dissent is allowed."
The display has been a source of contention among neighbors who live on Marty Way.
"I'm outraged," neighbor Marque Cohen told the Sacramento Bee. "We have our men and women in uniform that are dying to protect our rights and I think it's a disgrace that somebody would be allowed to hang a U.S. soldier in effigy in front of their house."
Oops. Didn't mean to set off a FireSign mudslide. 
I yield to the chair. Uh, to the person wielding the chair!
Hey DWD, remember the "Department of Redundancy Department"?
and to the reichwingers:
"Everything You Know Is Wrong!"
I guess we're Friday FireBlogging.
So take off your shoes, already!
Fucking Judy, Judy, Judy Woodruff and Howie the Putz are banging on about Blogs and fucking Putz is at it again, insisting bloggers were responsible for *proving* the docs were fake for the Rathergate incedent. He is also very upset that bloggers don't have editors or fact checkers. I detest that worm. He has a lot of nerve. He rarely gets anything right.
and I think it's a disgrace that somebody would be allowed to hang a U.S. soldier in effigy in front of their house."
Yes. The First Amendment is a "disgrace." And no one should be "allowed" to just put whatever they want on their own damn house! The power of the government should extend to house decoration. And these people rail against "Big Govmint."
Honestly, the people saying things like this are Un-American. There's no other way to put it.
Terry C | Email | Homepage | 02.18.05 - 3:58 pm | #
Revive the Sedition acts!!!
just kidding
But the workday is drawing to a close, so I will be back monday. Maybe drop in over the weekend, who knows? later all
"...and the natural guard. And you can believe me, because I never lie, and I'm always right"
Er, tooting my own horn.
http://www.doctechnical.com/fst/...otes/sfi-
cd.htm
Liner notes to the Firesign Theater
box set best of.
By me.
Coffee with a shot!
(of espresso, that is)
They have had it in for Rather for a long time,
Yes. Remember the whole "Kenneth, what's the frequency?" business from a dozen or fifteen years ago?
He also caught a lot of Rethug hate during Watergate, when Nixon made a snarky comment to him at a professional association dinner for journos or publishers or some such and Rather responded in kind.
They've had him in their sights for years.
As for what Tena said about PBS, in retrospect the handwriting was on the wall when LBJ failed to get the independent funding (an excise tax on televisions, IIRC) when the CPB was set up in '67. The Nixon admin went after them with a vengeance for airing programs criticizing his policies.
Shoe throwing should become a new fad. I say lets pelt some wingers with wingtips.
bigvic - "He is also very upset that bloggers don't have editors or fact checkers." I don't understand. Half the people here are either editors or fact checkers. I suspect we have the entire pool available working the lefty blogs, just to keep their hands in.
Looks like there are a lot of graduates of More Science High reading Atrios.
ON THE HOME FRONT
New hanging effigy: Bush lied, I died
California residence becomes ground zero for protests
Those are some BRAVE folks...
if there's any (p)atriots in Sacramento, y'all shoud arrange 24-7 protective surveillance, cuz Sac's a bourgeois town...Where Rush caught his first big break, iirc...
Just perused Kos, Americablog, et al. and am now officially convinced the JeffJim was fucking Scottie or someone higher up.
Scotty can leave the WH without an escort and get some on the side. So can Karl. There is only one person in the WH that would require a hooker coming to him instead him going to the hooker. Hints: he travels in a motorcade and has publically displayed an affection for bald heads.
I prefer to Lick Bush.
In reaction to the latest message, Move America Forward, the national organization that supports American troops and the war against terrorism,
Yep. There they go again pretending lefties hate *our* troops and love terrorism. How stupid are these schmucks?
CBS going the way of NBC. IN Roves pocket.
Brian Lamb has always been fairly convervative, but now he has gone completely over to the dark side.
Notice his guest list over the last year. Far out RAT Wingers with a weak ass Alan Combs type on the left.
This morning he had fire balls a plenty Coulter on followed by a weak ass Wash Post dude that pretended he was a Liberal. Check out todays Daily Howler on how great a liberal this mornings Lambs sacrifice really was.
He is also very upset that bloggers don't have editors or fact checkers.
Shows what an idiot Howie the Putz is, bigvic. In the blogosphere, the editors and factcheckers are other bloggers and commenters. If a blogger gets something wrong, there are plenty of other bloggers, especially on the other side of the political divide, who are happy to point out the error.
Damnable thing, that freedom of speech!
I think it's a disgrace that somebody would be allowed to hang a U.S. soldier in effigy in front of their house."
Terry C | Email | Homepage | 02.18.05 - 3:58 pm | #
Did anyone see on the Not so Liberal Media a report last night about returning vets with brain and spine injuries who have had all of their military pay cut and have been refused access to bases and medical care? Spouse couldn't tell me where he saw it...yeah, support the troops!
love bald heads
Shoe throwing should become a new fad. I say lets pelt some wingers with wingtips.
Or flip-flops. They're cheap, come off your foot easily, and I'd like to throw them at wingers after the last election.
Nauseating how CBS has been ignoring the Gannon story. They're just waiting for Rather to retire and replace him with a true-blue winger, as NBC did with the pompous blowhard Williams.
In reaction to the latest message, Move America Forward, the national organization that supports American troops and the war against terrorism,
heh! But not a word from them how Bush is trying to screw the soldier POW's from Iraq War I, right? Am I right? hunh! thought so.
I don't believe for a minute that Chimpy and Gannon "did" anything.
But if they did, and details of ANY kind became known (and believed), it would be the Schadenfreude All You Can Eat Buffet of the millenium.
I only wish there was/is more to the Gannongate storyline. Presidents are always savaged during their second term. Nixon, Reagan, Clinton. We just have to find the Chimperor's "Monica-gate."
I'm only dreaming here, but if it involved gay sex, I might have to take another look at religion. Because nothing that perfect just happens right when you need it.
GWPDA,
I wanted to leap through my TV and punch Howie in the nose. So sanctimonious and smug. He could use a fact checker, for real.
Update on EPT via Digby:
I just talked to EPT's brother and it isn't as bad as they thought. He's still very sick but they think he's going to recover.
His brother says to thank people for their good wishes. He will pass them on. EPT has only told his brother and me who he is so he probably would rather remain anonymous. His brother said that if he would like to be able to tell him that people are using a word he invented, cabloid. He used it for the cable news stations and asked his brother last week if he had heard anyone use it yet. He thinks that would make his day.
I will let you know if there is any more news.
Ragnarsson | 02.18.05 - 2:27 pm |
Sorry to repeat if anyone has already posted this; I left a message at Digby's place yesterday and have been checking sporadically. Good news.
[Kurtz] is also very upset that bloggers don't have editors or fact checkers.
So why's he such a fuckup then?
Seriously: I don't think people dumber than me should be diddling with our public discourse. Lest you think that megalomaniacal, I assure you: given my sense of self, that's not a high standard at all. Which is why I'm continuously appalled that the Times and the Post and the Star-Ledger can't even come close to meeting it.
So when are we going to start seeing this kind of thing here -- only about any publications that dare to question anything?
BEIJING : Foreign newspapers have been given the green light to print in China but they will not be allowed to circulate on the domestic market.
"Foreign newspapers can be printed in China, but all should be exported," Zhu Weifeng, an official with the State Press and Publication Administration (SPPA) told the China Business Weekly.
This "means they are made for export for an international market, so not one copy should be left to enter the Chinese market ... the circulation of overseas newspapers will remain forbidden in China, in the near future."
Feb. 15, 2005:
Limbaugh: "We don't retract anything we do here because we never lie and make things up on this program"
O'Reilly: "No lies have been told about anyone ... and you can't produce one, madam"
I sure picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
"We have our men and women in uniform that are dying to protect our rights and I think it's a disgrace that somebody would be allowed to hang a U.S. soldier in effigy in front of their house."
Nationalism... hmm...
and just how fuck'n stupid can these people be?
i've considered hang'n my flag upside down in the front yard, but then i considered again.
however, i did flip off 3 drivers with W signs in their windows. i guess we all want to express ourselves.
I wish someone could explain how anybody in Iraq is fighting or dying for our rights. I am not in any denigrating the people who are there or the sacrifices they and their families are making. I just don't see how anyone here's "rights" depend on anything that happens there.
Also seen at Media Matters:
Limbaugh: "We don't retract anything we do here because we never lie and make things up on this program"
Gingrich falsely claimed that Republican senators never "systematically tried to obstruct" Clinton judicial nominees
Proof positive, as if more were needed, that they just don't care if they get caught lying or not.
njbrad: so China wants to profit from the publishing industry yet deems what is published too subversive for the hoi polloi. Ho hum.
Oh, blinding light /
Oh, light that blinds /
I cannot see /
Look out for me!
...can't... resist...
must... pick... nit...
Wouldn't the title be
"Those Liberal Media"?
OT, slightly...Remember...
Sam Francis?
The Rightwing syndicatoad?DEAD AS ROADKILL, which fate he so richly deserved...Scroll down a bit; there's a couple of links to some of Sam's more memorable pronouncements.
I shed not a single tear; i wouldn't sluff off a single skin cell to save the slimy fuck from an eternity of agony...
Digby and the Poor Man burn down the house.
From *gannon-gate central:
A note about outing gay reporters
I just did a segment on CNN with Howard Kurtz for his "Reliable Sources" show that runs this coming Sunday, and another guy on the show was this John fellow with Powerline blog, or something like that. He decided to attack me for "gay-baiting," which I always find a fun charge coming from a right-wing Republican. Oh that the GOP was as concerned about gay-baiting in every other aspect of life as they are in the Gannon case.
...
A Canadian-born correspondent for ABC News is the reported target of a White House smear campaign after broadcasting a story on plummeting U.S. troop morale in Iraq, according to the Ottawa Citizen.
Published reports suggest the Bush administration retaliated by notifying Internet news sites and other media outlets that Jeffrey Kofman is not only Canadian but also an openly "gay" man.
A headline on Matt Drudge's website Wednesday evening read: ''ABC News correspondent who filed troop complaints story is openly gay, Canadian.''
http://americablog.blogspot.com
/2005/02/note-about-outing-gay-reporters.html
*Holden spotted gannon way back when. Holden gets no respect.
charley: I saw someone on the NYC subway to work today carrying a knapsack adorned with an upside-down S&S with "SOS" superimposed on it with marker and White Out...
SFI: um, Media is a mass noun, so I think according to Chicago Manual at any rate using the singular is legitimate.
don't believe for a minute that Chimpy and Gannon "did" anything.
hueyplong
I wouldn't have thought so myself a while back, but the silence of most of the SCLM and anxiety levels in freeperland really have me wondering.
I think I'll throw my pink cowgirl boots with fringe. 
CNN, OTOH, is just plain pathetic.
True, flory, but it was once much, much better.
I know what you mean. How pathetic is it to be nostalgic for the 'good ol days' of a TV station?
Liner notes to the Firesign Theater
box set best of.
By me.
That would make you a god to every guy I dated in high school.
How many times has Noam Chomsky been on CBS? They are so unliberal that one day Michelle Malkin will appear all moderate on one of their shows. This is true more generally as well. I have known some real Stalinists and they are a very different fish from us liberals. For example, I don't keep lists on who to execute after the revolution. But in the Malkin-world we are all communists.
Heard that "soldiers hung in effigy" story on the local radio news last weekend... the thing about it is, they aren't really "hanging" the soldiers in effigy, in the way I understand the practice. What they were actually doing was calling attention to the fact that soldiers were being killed needlessly.
Of course, then the moronic brownshirt fucks in Sacramento have to come to terms with their own complicity, and take it from me, those are some of the biggest yahoos around.
It's all fucking hopeless. We have no free media to speck of anymore. No newspapers, television, radio....nothing.
Perhaps, its a republican ploy to make them so irrelivant that no one will pay any serious attention to them, unless they like being told what to believe as the true. There's 51% of the voting public that falls into that category.
The First Amendmant is gonna die a silent death by the mid-term elections.
regards
.
The Times had a front page story today about Bush nominating Bob Schieffer's (Face the Nation/CBS News) brother to be ambassador of Japan. Not like Japan will never be reported on. That is just wrong.
TerryC -
"I'm outraged," neighbor Marque Cohen told the Sacramento Bee. "We have our men and women in uniform that are dying to protect our rights and I think it's a disgrace that somebody would be allowed to hang a U.S. soldier in effigy in front of their house."
This quote is probably the best living example of doublethink I've ever encountered.
democracynow.org had a good piece on yesterday about the three CBS staffers who are refusing to resign as ordered as a result of the investigation into the Bush National Guard story. You can still see it or read the transcript. There is a link to a story in the NY Observer
Mass noun like Jell-O and oatmeal?
Ohh, I getting it.
Still don't like Nookuler though the dictionaries are starting to 'allow' it.
Taking shoes back off now.
that's great about EPT. don't know this guy (is he a guy) but been reading his comments for a year or more and i liked that guy, if he was a guy.
Just a small, probably misguided bit of lefty optimism, folks, but I have in recent weeks gotten the feeling that the Rethugs are rapidly running out of spackling for their Potemkin village.
Yes, good vibes to EPT. We need him or her back healthy and angry. And cabloid is great. I'm going to use it in a post soon.
Looks like there are a lot of graduates of More Science High reading Atrios.
Aeolus | Email | Homepage | 02.18.05 - 4:05 pm | #
Communist Martyrs, class of '75.
Here is the drudge link to gannongate:
Flory:
Yipes!
Oh, and BTW: there is now a clothing
line called Nick Danger.
Really.
Fear of Canadians has been a characteristic of this administration. And why not? An entire nation, filled with people too cold to unclench their teeth, determined to avoid being absorbed into the Borg - my God they could do -anything-! They could insist children be taught to read! They could demand equal pay for equal work! The right to vote and have their vote counted! And then, after prolonged group taunting highlighted by a refusal to admit people convicted of DUI, the Canadians could simply change languages and run away! My God the horror of it all.
'cabloid' just plain rocks.
And I still like saying Heginbotham.
Steve: Excellent notes. I would not add (or subtract) a thing. For me this is simply remarkable.
We used to listen to Don't Crush That Dwarf after supper nearly everyday in the dorm. We got so we could do the voices along with the Firesign Theater. Not really sure why, but to this day it remains circling my brain. It is not unusual for me to reference the silly thing several times a day. I guess that either makes me screwed up (likely) or a fan(definitely.)
"But if you looking for a captain of the ringball team, he's sure to be there. . . ."
The preceding was brought to you by the Howl of the Wolf Movie -- why that woman is trying to kill me . . . which would you rather do? Hit this . . . and on and on
This quote is probably the best living example of doublethink I've ever encountered.
Who said irony was dead?
hadenough,
You are correct. Holden and his beloved gaggle watch was onto Gannon's ass from the get-go.
DWD:
Thanks. It was a real labor of love...
got to interview all four of them
at length, which was a thrill.
Steve:
I understand - its a heavy burden to bear.
GWPDA:
You forgot that whole 'let anyone who wants to marry do so' thingy.
Gerald Ford, 1974: My fellow Americans, our long national nightmare is over.
What a maroon!
this isn't my site. this is not a shameless plug.
http://www.frameshopisopen.com/
somebody just showed me that blog.
"You forgot that whole 'let anyone who wants to marry do so' thingy."
That too, and what about flannel? Plaid flannel? No, it's time we had someone in the White House to protect the good people of places like Sacramento from the fear of plaid.
Conservatoid gibberish really is mostly regurgitation of their holy catechism of talking points. It is reminiscent of communist blather in which every possible thing that could happen is explained by the historical dialectic. None of this twaddle should pass for discourse among serious people. Everything that happens fits neatly into conservatoid world view. All of reality, they think.
The Times had a front page story today about Bush nominating Bob Schieffer's (Face the Nation/CBS News) brother to be ambassador of Japan. Not like Japan will never be reported on. That is just wrong.
Hmmmm, now let me see. I seem to remember Bob Schieffer doing something nice for the president not too long ago. What was it? Hmmmm...
Gotta go for awhile....have fun!
I typed up my LtE an hour ago and sent it off into the atmosphere. Just got a call from my local paper to confirm I wrote it and they will publish it. Probably won't be until Wed because we have local elections going on right now and voting on this coming tuesday.
I included fake reporters, paid journalists, etc. My line re Gannon went thus "Now a fake reporter (and alleged prostitute w/porn website) employed by a fake news organization run by supporters of Bush has been unmasked attending daily WH press briefings." I willfully chose not to identify the sex as I thought it would have more impact locally.
Not too surprised w/rapid response because I have been having e-mail with head man for last few weeks.
i've considered hang'n my flag upside down in the front yard, but then i considered again.
Here's something you can do:
Buy the American flag postage stamps and stick them on the envelope upside-down.
Also, you could fly the Gadsden Flag instead of the Stars & Stripes.
Gosh. This couldn't be because Republicans are in government, and the program is called "Evening News" rather than "Evening Opinion", now could it, you great twat?
And how funny is it to see Media Matters placing Juan Cole under "Neutral Commentary"?
Or flip-flops. They're cheap, come off your foot easily, and I'd like to throw them at wingers after the last election.
They don't weigh enough. They just kinda fly off whichever way their own bad aeronautics take them.
If you're gonna throw shoes at wingers, throw brake shoes.
For example, I don't keep lists on who to execute after the revolution.
~Looks around sheepishly. Quietly takes little tiny folded up square of paper out of pocket and swallow it.~
Want a yellow ribbon with a twist?
I'm ordering these for all my vehicles.
Or flip-flops. They're cheap, come off your foot easily, and I'd like to throw them at wingers after the last election.
You can frisbee them easier, too.
Glad to hear EPT is okay.
That too, and what about flannel? Plaid flannel?
Forget flannel. What about 'eh'? That utterance needs to be forever banished - its just not American.
And universal health insurance? Its a sign of the end times!!
Oh wait - that's good, right?
There is something extremely petty and childish about picking on Canada. The wingnuts can't stand liberal free thinkers. They hate it that liberals won't drink their nasty kool-aid.
Hecate - rice paper next time.
dave,
"...that they just don't care if they get caught lying or not."
What really has me concerned is that they are so eaten up with their hubris that everything the Constitution stands for is irrevalent to their Party ambitions.
The Founding Fathers established the system of checks and balances to ensure that no one political party could run roughshod over the Constitution. Seems the republican have been working on this plan for a number of years. With Bush's re-election, it's no holds barred and the checks and balances are no longer in place.
With the aged Supreme Court that is already leaning to the right, any slightest tip in that balance and Democracy in our Republic will cease to exist. The lessons of Hitler are bearing fruition with the republicans.
We may not make it to the mid-term elections before they do something that makes it obsolete. It'll be like the Soviet Union...you can vote for anyone you wish. It doesn't really matter who you select, they're all in the same party.
regards
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If you're gonna throw shoes at wingers, throw brake shoes.
wooden clogs make a nice "toink" noise when they hit you.
Hey DWD, remember the "Department of Redundancy Department"?
Eat The Rich!
And the Church of The Erroneous Assumption.....
OT (Cont'd Discussion on PBS with Tena & Chicago Dyke (CD):
Granted that PBS has been pulled away from its liberal orientation toward a very slightly left of center orientation (only PBS, among the major media outlets does segments on the plight of the poor, faults in the healthcare system, serious reports on the environment etc.), but this occurred because of its financial difficulties caused by a Repub Congress sharply cutting back on its funding.
The right systematically goes after particular institutions that are left of center with the aim of bringing about their demise or getting them to shift more in their direction. Groups they have targeted, in a campaign spanning decades, include: unions, lawyer groups that represent middle class & poor populations, Hollywood, centrist to left of center media outlets & teachers. Their successful campaigns have led to the significant weakening of the power of these groups.
Liberals are generally unaware that this is a deliberate, systematic campaign to destroy the power base of liberals. The media war of the right has led to the intimidation of the major media news outlets - CBS, NBC & ABC, the shift of CNN from centrist to FOX lite, the inihibitions of PBS from seeming to appear too liberal.
(Continue in a moment)
that info from americablog about gannon and the cbs memogate thing definitely tears thing wide open!!!!!!!!!!!
rove was behind memogate!! it is wide open now!
we must keep pounding pounding pounding.
this tears it wide open. fuckall.
this is big.
Wingnuts fear Canada because Canada is doing well without wingnuttery and it's cold there, too. This is totally against the wingnuts' basic beliefs and values so Canada must fall!
What can I throw if I don't wear shoes? Other than snake venom?
Military medicine experimenting with MDMA (Ecstacy) as treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
Interesting. Now, I can see where this would be helpful, but just one night of rolling can leave one quite spent.
Interesting column at CBS.com:
...when Jeff Gannon, White House "reporter" for Talon "News," was unmasked last week, the leap to a possible Rove connection was unavoidable. Gannon says that he met Rove only once, at a White House Christmas party, and Gannon is kind of small potatoes for Rove at this point in his career.
But Rove's dominance of White House and Republican politics, Gannon's aggressively partisan work and the ease with which he got day passes for the White House press room the past two years make it hard to believe that he wasn't at least implicitly sanctioned by the "boy genius." Rove, who rarely gave on-the-record interviews to the MSM (mainstream media), had time to talk to GOPUSA, which owns Talon.
GOPUSA and Talon are both owned by Bobby Eberle, a Texas Republican and business associate of conservative direct-mail guru Bruce Eberle who says that Bobby is from the "Texas branch of the Eberle clan." Bobby Eberle told The New York Times that he created Talon to build a news service with a conservative slant and "if someone were to see 'Gopusa,' there's an instant built-in bias there." No kidding.
Some of the real reporters in the WH pressroom were apparently annoyed at Gannon's presence and his softball, partisan questions, but considered him only a minor irritant. One told me he thought of Gannon as a balance for the opinionated liberal questions of Hearst's Helen Thomas. But what Gannon was up to was not just writing opinion columns or using a different technique to get information. He was a player in Republican campaigns and his work in the South Dakota Senate race illustrates the role he played. It is also a classic example of how political operatives are using the brave new world of the Internet and the blogosphere. Gannon and Talon News appear to be mini-Drudge reports; a "news" source which partisans use to put out negative information, get the attention of the bloggers, talk radio and then the MSM in a way that mere press releases are unable to achieve.
One of Gannon's first projects was an attempt to discredit the South Dakota Argus Leader, South Dakota's major paper, and its longtime political writer, David Kranz. According to the National Journal, which reported on this last November, Gannon wrote a series of articles in the summer of 2003 alleging that Kranz, who went to college with Democratic Sen. Tom Daschle, was not only sympathetic to him but was an actual part of the Daschle campaign. These articles then got a huge amount of play on the blogs of John Lauck and Jason Van Beek, and were picked up by other conservative sites and talk radio. The paper was bombarded with messages about its bias and acknowledges that these had an impact on its coverage.
Daschle opponent John Thune's campaign manager was Dick Wadham, an old political crony of Karl Rove's; the kind of pal Rove could ask to hir
wooden clogs make a nice "toink" noise when they hit you.
With the added feature of reverb if they hit a freeper empty skull.
Clogs it is, then.
bigvic,
Holden is the rodney dangerfield of blogging.
I mean that in a good way.
Listen, there are more than enough jackasses in Canada to satisfy the administration - but they tend to want to remain Canadian and that's just outrageous.
Btw, the appalling Dodgson crew is attempting to strongarm Canadians into 'pressuring' their MPs into opposing same sex marriage. It's actually kind of funny as a project - it reminds me vividly of how the Texas oil companies went around signing up Alberta oil rights, using Texas leases. In other words, the darling little Dodgsons imagine that 'pressuring an MP' by sending in duplicate coupons is somehow effective. Presumably these people are the same ones who believe that if Canadians could just be brought to support the Bill of Rights (and that 2nd thingey), then all would be well.
cont...
Daschle opponent John Thune's campaign manager was Dick Wadham, an old political crony of Karl Rove's; the kind of pal Rove could ask to hire his first cousin, John Wood, a few years back. Wadham put the bloggers on the campaign payroll and the symbiotic relationship between the campaign, the bloggers and "reporter" Gannon” continued. On September 29, Gannon broke the story that Daschle had claimed a special tax exemption for a house in Washington and the bloggers jumped all over it. According to a November 17 posting on South Dakota Politics – a site that Van Beek, who has become a staffer for now-Sen. Thune, has bequeathed to Lauck – "Jeff Gannon, whose reportage had a dramatic impact on the Daschle v. Thune race (his story about Sen. Daschle signing a legal document claiming to be a D.C. resident was published nearly the same day Thune began to run an ad showing Daschle saying, "I'm a D.C. resident) has written an analysis of the debacle."
Daschle aides told Roll Call, "This guy (Gannon) became the dumping ground for opposition research." The connections are so strong that there is an FEC challenge which could be a test case on the limits of the use of the Internet in federal campaigns.
Gannon also had Thune on his radio show "Jeff Gannon's Washington," and the White House correspondent for Talon became touted as the "resident D.C. expert on South Dakota politics" by the bloggers. Thune and Wadham (who has been hired by aspiring White House Republican Sen. George Allen) have become go-to guys on the use of blogs in campaigns. Thune was cited in The New York Times as introducing "Senators to the meaning of 'blogging,' explaining the basics of self-published online political commentary and arguing that it can affect public opinion."
This week Democrats, who have serious case of Rove envy, went a little nuts and started sending around information and graphic pictures of Gannon and his porn Web sites. But it is the more routine part of Gannon's life that deserves serious scrutiny. Planting or even just sanctioning a political operative in the WH press room is a dangerous precedent and Karl Rove's hope to become a respected policymaker will be hampered if the dirty tricks from his political past are more apparent than his desire to spread liberty around the globe.
Not clogs! What if the wingnuts won't return them!
Kyork,
Good for you. Kos is having a letter and email writing campaign going over at his site.
Echidne:
What can I throw if I don't wear shoes? Other than snake venom?
Don't you molt a couple times a year?
You know the funny thing is: I did not need anyone to tell me how conservative and truth-evasive CBS is: I knew it. In truth I perceive them all about the same. Liars of convenience and truth-tellers as a last resort.
If you examine the news - top to bottom - the only difference between the MSM and Fox is that Fox is unashamed to be following the party line.
My only answer is to seek the truth in other places. But how many Americans actually do this? (I know there are some, but not the millions who watch the Evening News)
Nauseating how CBS has been ignoring the Gannon story.
Not so fast...
...when Jeff Gannon, White House "reporter" for Talon "News," was unmasked last week, the leap to a possible Rove connection was unavoidable...
But Rove's dominance of White House and Republican politics, Gannon's aggressively partisan work and the ease with which he got day passes for the White House press room the past two years make it hard to believe that he wasn't at least implicitly sanctioned by the "boy genius." ...
Daschle opponent John Thune's campaign manager was Dick Wadham, an old political crony of Karl Rove's; the kind of pal Rove could ask to hire his first cousin, John Wood, a few years back. Wadham put the bloggers on the campaign payroll and the symbiotic relationship between the campaign, the bloggers and "reporter" Gannon” continued. On September 29, Gannon broke the story that Daschle had claimed a special tax exemption for a house in Washington and the bloggers jumped all over it. According to a November 17 posting on South Dakota Politics – a site that Van Beek, who has become a staffer for now-Sen. Thune, has bequeathed to Lauck – "Jeff Gannon, whose reportage had a dramatic impact on the Daschle v. Thune race (his story about Sen. Daschle signing a legal document claiming to be a D.C. resident was published nearly the same day Thune began to run an ad showing Daschle saying, "I'm a D.C. resident) has written an analysis of the debacle."
Daschle aides told Roll Call, "This guy (Gannon) became the dumping ground for opposition research." The connections are so strong that there is an FEC challenge which could be a test case on the limits of the use of the Internet in federal campaigns.
Gannon also had Thune on his radio show "Jeff Gannon's Washington," and the White House correspondent for Talon became touted as the "resident D.C. expert on South Dakota politics" by the bloggers. Thune and Wadham (who has been hired by aspiring White House Republican Sen. George Allen) have become go-to guys on the use of blogs in campaigns. Thune was cited in The New York Times as introducing "Senators to the meaning of 'blogging,' explaining the basics of self-published online political commentary and arguing that it can affect public opinion."
... Planting or even just sanctioning a political operative in the WH press room is a dangerous precedent and Karl Rove's hope to become a respected policymaker will be hampered if the dirty tricks from his political past are more apparent than his desire to spread liberty around the globe.
"What can I throw if I don't wear shoes? Other than snake venom?"
Echidne of the snakes - try a nice set of bolos.
There is something extremely petty and childish about picking on Canada. The wingnuts can't stand liberal free thinkers. They hate it that liberals won't drink their nasty kool-aid.
bigvic
But bigvic, albertchampion pointedly remarked last night on your ignorance of the fact that the Rockefellers have been running global leaders since forever.
Though I really don't care for the Rocky's choice with that whole Caligula thing.
They have some 'splainin to do.
I guess if you steal enough money you can go to trial whenever you want.
Finding best date for trial not easy
Lay's attorneys want to go early; others say no way
By MARY FLOOD
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle
The big question in the Enron case is when ex-Chairman Ken Lay and ex-Chief Executive Jeff Skilling will go to trial.
In anticipation of a hearing on that topic next week, lawyers for two defense attorneys have told the court they are not available in June, if not the whole summer, and want the case to start later rather than sooner.
U.S. District Judge Sim Lake asked prosecutors and defense attorneys about scheduling conflicts for June through September, indicating the judge is thinking of starting the trial in the summer.
Daniel Petrocelli, the trial counsel for Skilling, told the court he's busy in June, with a baby due at the beginning of the month and a trial starting midmonth. The California-based attorney said because of the amount of evidence and the way the government has made it available, the trial should not start before September or perhaps even later.
Not free for summer
Reid Weingarten, the Washington-based trial counsel for ex-chief accounting officer Rick Causey, who is to be tried with Lay and Skilling, told the judge he's not free from June through September.
Weingarten, currently defending ex-World Com chief Bernie Ebbers in New York City, asked that the case be put off until Dec. 1. Courthouse insiders say that such a late date is not likely as Lake runs a speedy docket and is not known to postpone very long.
Lay's lawyer, Mike Ramsey, has asked for a speedy trial and said he wants the case to go sooner rather than later. In this he agrees with prosecutors who have specifically asked that the case go in September or sooner
Radio Producer Could Always Count on 'Gannon' for Tips
San Antonio radio producer Susan Farris could always count on James Guckert, a.k.a. former White House correspondent Jeff Gannon, to pitch an appearance on the shows she produces at conservative talk station KTSA.
He was not only anxious about pushing his story of the day, but seemed to always have some kind of inside knowledge about the White House, as well.
"I said, 'How do you have such great sources?' and he just laughed it off," she told E&P Friday. "Now we all know how."
...
hadenough,
Holden is the rodney dangerfield of blogging.
Yep. Holden deserves major respect. He's funnier than Rodney ever was, too.
Wingnuts fear Canada because Canada is doing well without wingnuttery and it's cold there, too. This is totally against the wingnuts' basic beliefs and values so Canada must fall!
Not to mention the 3 trillion (that's trillion, with a "t") barrels of oil they have up there in Athabasca...
Echidne:
What can I throw if I don't wear shoes? Other than snake venom?
Don't you molt a couple times a year?
flory, you are confusing me with chickens, I think. I shed, but the skin is kind of soft for throwing purposes.
Is there really any doubt that Rove neutered CBS with his planted "fake documents"?
Why does the porridge bird lay his eggs in the air?
"Nauseating how CBS has been ignoring the Gannon story."
Not so fast...
Posted it first.
However, let's point out, that's a column from their website. Will anything from it get on the air? Remains to be seen...
charley: I saw someone on the NYC subway to work today carrying a knapsack adorned with an upside-down S&S with "SOS" superimposed on it with marker and White Out...
TheaLogie
a braver man than me. my parents taught me never write anything in public you would be worried about seeing printed in the press.
oops...
but i can't resist flipping off people with W stickers. an involuntary reaction born out of my fear they will one day be wearing that symbol on arm bands.
He's funnier than Rodney ever was, too.
And he looks much better in a frilly dress than Rodney ever could.
Yeah, RCSanders, but that's all sandy and icky. Hmmmmm, Turner Valley....
I shed, but the skin is kind of soft for throwing purposes.
True, but I was thinking if you kind of let it sit around and decay for awhile....nice and gooey and odiferous.
Why does the porridge bird lay his eggs in the air?
sekmet
To get to the other side?
y'all crack me up. Stay in SF you commie bastards. I hope you all die.
charley: I saw someone on the NYC subway to work today carrying a knapsack adorned with an upside-down S&S with "SOS" superimposed on it with marker and White Out...
TheaLogie
a braver man than me. my parents taught me never write anything in public you would be worried about seeing printed in the press.
oops...
but i can't resist flipping off people with W stickers. an involuntary reaction born out of my fear they will one day be wearing that symbol on arm bands.
the troll at 4:42 pm was, obviously, not me.
The Times had a front page story today about Bush nominating Bob Schieffer's (Face the Nation/CBS News) brother to be ambassador of Japan. Not like Japan will never be reported on. That is just wrong.
bigvic
That's a nice big "thank you" to Schieffer for not asking any hard questions during the debate. And I remember all the freeper asswipes saying that Schieffer is too liberal...
What a bunch of crackheads.
Stony Curtis,
Hahahahaha. I forgot I was so ignorant. I'll remember from now on. Promise.
Why does the porridge bird lay his eggs in the air?
!!!
"Stay in SF you commie bastards. "
It couldn't be any damper and greyer and duller than it is here in Phoenix. With the Birchers.
And he looks much better in a frilly dress than Rodney ever could.
It was only a matter of time before fluffits entered the conversation.
Beginning to think this world is actually a Charlie Sheen movie. The Arrival.
Aliens hiding as public figures, manipulating the world and affairs to create an alien utopia of greenhouse gases. Nothing is as it seems. Up is down. And the bad guy is Ron Silver to boot.
I'm from Communist Martyrs High Class of '64.
That's to say the REAL Communist Martyrs High -- the High School of Music and Art in New York City.
Red diaper babies to the right of me, red-diaper babies to the left of me! And in my home room, Laura Negron -- who after changing her name to Nyro created a body of work that lasts to this day.
By the way have any of you guys seen Pico and Alvarado?
Good heavens, where are my manners?
Fuck Bu$h
Wouldn't want to forget that.
y'all crack me up. Stay in SF you commie bastards. I hope you all die.
That's nice. But I live in Missouri. That's Bush country to your geographically impaired self. Also, we don't wish you death. Why do you harbor this Stalinist like hate of us?
Oh, wait... Your party is built on that.
For example, I don't keep lists on who to execute after the revolution. But in the Malkin-world we are all communists.
Echidne of the snakes
I don't either, but I often wonder who is on those Stalinists' lists and if they're forgetting anyone.
this tears it wide open. fuckall.
this is big.
dan hoppe
Good Afternoon, all!
This may be big, but it's too late. THEY STOLE THE FUCKING ELECTION AGAIN.
Everything WGG has been saying about fair elections is spot on!
This makes me sicker than I already am.
Presumably these people are the same ones who believe that if Canadians could just be brought to support the Bill of Rights (and that 2nd thingey), then all would be well.
GWPDA
Well, they sent troops to Vietnam, didn't they? [/AnnThrax}
With 51% of the voting public in favor of Bush, the "Media" has made a conscience effort to sway their coverage .
Keep in mind, the "Media" today is not so interested in reporting the "news" as they are in "reporting the news in such a manner that boosts their viewership/readership/listening audience."
With mega-conglomerates controlling the print media and airwaves they measure their profits by the numbers that tune in to hear what they believe the news should be, not is.
In short, they're tayloring the news to fit the audience. Too many of the Bush base is against the "Media" because they don't report the news "as it should be". The "Media" has taken it into account is transforming itself to meet the needs of its audience. Seems they realize that the truth doesn't increase sales as it use to.
If you want the "truth" then read the foriegn papers...there aren't too many in the US anymore that are worth the paper its printed on.
regards
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By the way have any of you guys seen Pico and Alvarado?
You mean this?
Sorry, bud, but I'm in the Holy Theocracy of Talibama.
TJ, darlin' ~ we knew that!
You're far too eloquent to abbreviate SF and call us commie bastards. So unoriginal.
...Holy Theocracy of Talibama.
That's funny.
"Still don't like Nookuler though the dictionaries are starting to 'allow' it."
You're kidding, right?
With 51% of the voting public in favor of Bush, the "Media" has made a conscience effort to sway their coverage .
Keep in mind, the "Media" today is not so interested in reporting the "news" as they are in "reporting the news in such a manner that boosts their viewership/readership/listening audience."
So all the media are trying to boost market share by going after that same 51%. Meanwhile, we, the 49%, have no place to go.
Hello? WTF kind of business planning is that?
The shoe thrower is on big ed's radio show.
I know all about big eddy. I like big eddy.
He threw two shoes. Only one hit the podium. He said he is 52 and a little guy, so of course goons in the audience beat up on him. He was arrested for disorderly conduct.
perle came out making jokes. The little guy thought about all the dead and that moron perle making jokes and his blood started boiling.
America:
perle is out collecting speaking fees and making jokes
The little guy gets arrested
I want to know if Stringey got her present today on A's birthday and I want to see A's cats covered with mushed up chocolate cake and vanilla ice cream.
Just two, small wishes. Either I get them, or I'm moving to Claresholm (or Pincher Creek or possibly Frank. Can't decide.)
Many progressives respond to ongoing right-wing campaigns against left of center media outlets by opting to cease financially supporting them or discontinuing viewership. The net effect is to leave the media field solely to the right. Over time, this will mean that the right wing will seal every window & door of progressive access to the public through the major news media. The result will be that only a conservative slant on events will be heard by the general public. This will make it extremely difficult for non conservatives to win national elections & the right will have a permanent & growing majority in Congress & further consolidate their hold on the courts.
(To be cont'd)
Perle needs some Instant Karma. Fast.
Yes, hadenough, I heard the guy on Ed Schultz's show. He sounded like an ordinary person who just came to the edge of his tether. And then threw a shoe! Wingnuts tend to bomb places to smithereens but we tend to throw pies or shoes. That's why I love us, of course.
y'all crack me up. Stay in SF you commie bastards. I hope you all die.
Now, Reverend...
I've been to SF though. I liked the city a lot, but it's too darn cold there.
Yeah, I want to see birthday cats dressed up in their party clothes and rotten with cake and ice cream too.
We want cats! We want cats!
I just stumbled on this site through a link. Do you all just sit here all day and complain?
Picking a post at a quick glance, I find....
"Conservatoid gibberish really is mostly regurgitation of their holy catechism of talking points. It is reminiscent of communist blather in which every possible thing that could happen is explained by the historical dialectic. None of this twaddle should pass for discourse among serious people. Everything that happens fits neatly into conservatoid world view. All of reality, they think." ....
This is hillarious. I love when people use words like 'blather' and 'twaddle' with the intention of trying to sound smart.
I am a hard core right wing conservative. Does anybody here actually have any of their own ideas, or is this just a bitch and moan site? You wonder why people laugh at you.
With the Gannon story, the media types being paid under the table to promote the Administration, and Federal money being spent, illegally, to promote Bush's policies, one has to ask...where's the oversight?...where's Congress?....????
Isn't Congress's job to control the excesses of the Executive Branch and to launch hearings to investigate misappropriation of government funds?
IMHO, it seems to me that the Congress is derlict in their duties to rein in the excesses. It doesn't do any good to belly-ache about the spilt milk...it has to be cleaned up and measures taken so it doesn't happen again.
Need to get Reid and Dean involved to raise hell in the halls of Congress or suck it up.
regards
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rm - We're also at the moment jonesing for pictures of cats. With ice cream and cake.
Is visiting this site your part time, after school job? Did you get the forms to return to the monitor?
Hello? WTF kind of business planning is that?
Given my experience of corpoworld from the inside, I wonder how these guys manage to make any money at all--other than defrauding old people and breaking into bank accounts and such.
Pay no attention to the naked gay conservative male prostitute sitting in the middle of the family values White House:
http://americablog.blogspot.com/...alled-
jeff.html
Well, gosh, jack, I wasn't actually complaining. And you've proven my point, haven't you?
I just stumbled on this site through a link....
I never thought I'd be posting this to a liberal discussion forum, but this one time I did and you won't believe what happened...
First rule about the compromised press:
Don't talk about the compromised press.
TJ, darlin' ~ we knew that!
You're far too eloquent to abbreviate SF and call us commie bastards. So unoriginal.
Thanks, Vicki! Right now I do not feel eloquent; all my creative juices are being sucked dry by a pending motion to dismiss (actually think we have a shot at winning that one) and a memo on choice of law (the law my boss wants to apply does not). Ugh. Remind me again why I decided to become a lawyer.
well, messed that up, didn't I....
If you want the "truth" then read the foriegn papers...there aren't too many in the US anymore that are worth the paper its printed on.
Moad-Dib,
Yes, with the exception of Friday's NYT op eds by Bob Herbert and Paul Krugman. They never disappoint.
I am a hard core right wing conservative. Does anybody here actually have any of their own ideas, or is this just a bitch and moan site?
You misspelled "All you LIEBERALS and DEMONCRAPS can do is call names!!!!!!!" Hope this helps.
And yeah, I do have a few ideas. Most of them are better expressed in a little thing we like to call the United States Constitution.
What words do you use when you want people to think you are smart?
I am a hard core right wing conservative.
My sympathies.
Does anybody here actually have any of their own ideas, or is this just a bitch and moan site?
It's a bitch and moan site, idiot! I'll note that you're bitching and moaning about the content here, and it's only your first post!
You wonder why people laugh at you.
Keep talking, sonny. I have the feeling that there's some good comedy to be mined from your 'viewpoint.'
love, stranger
I am a hard core right wing conservative. Does anybody here actually have any of their own ideas, or is this just a bitch and moan site? You wonder why people laugh at you.
rm | Email | Homepage | 02.1
If you aren't aware of the laughter every evening comedy talk show produces at the expense of "hard core right wing conervative(s)", you're living in a dream world. I can't even count the number of parody blogs that liberals setup to pretend to advocate conservative positions, just to provide people with comedy. I have yet to even hear of a liberal parody blog.
And if you want ideas, try asking people. No one just sits around posting ideas all day.
Seriously, come on back out, hard core conservative. If you have an idea, throw it out here. Would like to find out if you're smart?
You know, it's funny in the wake of Gannon to hear someone describe themselves as a "hard core" conservative...
Edward R. Murrow spun in his grave.
Then he crawled out of it.
Urinated dead piss on the current MSM.
Then lit up a Marlboro.
This guy, rm, sez it all:..."You wonder why people laugh at you."
I have to admit, he does make a good point in that, at times, everyone is hellbent on bellyaching but no substance in their discussions.
If we want to be taken seriously, then we're gonna have to think, plan, and organize. All this talk is but gibberish and serves no useful purpose other than make us all look silly and ineffective.
I have viral pneumonia atm. Its hard to concentration, and my head is spinning, but I'm at a loss for the ranting and raving that's been going on here.
regards
.
Wonder why hard core conservative is not commenting on a conservative weblog?
Oh, that's right, silly me, they don't have comments.
Shoes for Industry:
Shoes for the dead?
(Damn, how many Firesign Theater people are there out there?)
Porgy Tirebiter, he's a spy and a girl delighter. Porgy Tirebiter, just a student like you. . . .
DWD
What's all this brouhaha?
Antelope Freeway one mile...Antelope Freeway two miles...
Oh, that's right, silly me, they don't have comments.
Or when they do, one misstep and you're banned. Like the freepers who didn't like W's immigration ideas.
Wingnuts tend to bomb places to smithereens but we tend to throw pies or shoes. That's why I love us, of course.
somebody at kos had a really funny thought along similar lines yesterday -- wingers were the cokeheads and liberals were the potheads. i don't necessarily disagree with that.
Man, have I been on the wrong thread. This is the one where everyone loves me.
Thanks to all.
Now, am I the last person to see this post at Daily Kos informing us that CBS sez JimmyJeff's man in the White House was none other than Karl Rove himself?
wingers were the cokeheads and liberals were the potheads.
One small correction - wingers are crackheads, liberals are potheads.
There, much better.
portia,
yeah..there are exceptions, granted. But they are so few and far between. ANd when they do make a point, it's drowned out by the right and is never heard again...it disappears from the mainstream conscienceness.
regards
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Last chance. Why you gotta come in here and criticize my post? I mean, it's not like I come down to where you work and knock the dicks out of your mouth.
Wow, one post and look what I did....i'm going home now. Don't bother responding anymore to me, I'm not going to be back to read any of it.
I hope you all have a good weekend. PS...I'm betting that I'm smarter and make more money than 90% of the people in here. I'm in that 1% category that pays for 70% of all of the taxes. And I didn't even get a graduate degree. Imagine that.
re: the term cabloids, i was perusing another blog the other day, and someone referred to the fascist thugs as MEpublicans. kind of sums it up very succinctly, i thought.
Yeah it's a bitch and moan site.
We've found it pretty easy to get you bitches moaning for more!
And I didn't even get a graduate degree. Imagine that.
rm
Correct.
You didn't even "get" a high school diploma.
But we still have hope for you.
Emblematic Party Drugs
The GOPukes aren't crackheads; they're crankheads, and dangerously unbalanced, desparate to do SOMETHING in those 15 minutes when they are certain they can do ANYTHING...
i agree the drug-of-choice on the left is weed: it leaves one laughing at the pranks of the cranksters, but vulnerable to their violence...
I'm betting that I'm smarter and make more money than 90% of the people in here....
There were these two really hot female liberal posters. Barely in their twenties, well while they were debating Mao or Stalin, you won't believe what they did to me...
JimmyJeff's man in the White House was none other than Karl Rove
oh, please god let it be true.
stranger: agreed, much better.
I'm in that 1% category that pays for 70% of all of the taxes. And I didn't even get a graduate degree. Imagine that.
Interesting that the troll thinks income is relevant. And yes, conservatives are always finding "ingenius" ways of getting hugely rich without college degrees.
David Ehrenstein-
I could have used a warning on that one.
Funny, though.
Whatever, Jeff, or J.D., or "Bulldog," if you prefer. People in the 1% you're talking about don't spend much time posting on internet message boards. Imagine that.
the troll at 4:42 pm was, obviously, not me.
TJ | Email | Homepage | 02.18.05 - 4:44 pm | #
I think the "Communist Martyrs" reference went right over its head. Not a Firesign Theater fan.
Wow, one post and look what I did....i'm going home now. Don't bother responding anymore to me
Chickenshit.
Remind me to remember in future how interested you "conservative" fucktards are in "ideas."
Falangist piece of crap.
I hope you all have a good weekend. PS...I'm betting that I'm smarter and make more money than 90% of the people in here. I'm in that 1% category that pays for 70% of all of the taxes. And I didn't even get a graduate degree. Imagine that.
rm
He's off to make $2,500.00 this weekend.
I'm in that 1% category that pays for 70% of all of the taxes
Wrong, 70% only applies to Fed income tax- does not include FICA withholding, state, and local taxes.
I (heart) David Ehrenstein!
that pic KILLS me!!!!
For real? No fair. You come in here acting like you want to talk about ideas, then run away when you catch some flack for being a jackoff? What gives? Your folks come home?
If we want to be taken seriously, then we're gonna have to think, plan, and organize. All this talk is but gibberish and serves no useful purpose other than make us all look silly and ineffective.
My dear sir, you must seriously misjudge your own efficacy if you believe being judged 'serious' by the likes of that pathetic post-pubescent poseur possesses the least chinchilla of relevance to the progressive project...
Folks here, regulars, yourself among them, know that eschatonians are active politically in their various regions, and that they come here to relieve the pressure of having to function in an atmosphere in which the opinions of the trool 'rm' are the numb-nuts norm...
Holden - that's it - we're there. JimmyJeffJeff was the missing link in the Rathergate thing.
He links the Freepers who came up with the whole "forgery" thing, CBS, and Rove.
I knew Rove was behind that whole thing. I knew it - it had his stink all over it.
I don't like that Conservatives are crankheads.
Crank can be a good thing.
CrackWhores are what they are.
Now, am I the last person to see this post at Daily Kos informing us that CBS sez JimmyJeff's man in the White House was none other than Karl Rove himself?
Oh, sweet mother of a prairie dog, let this be true.
PS...I'm betting that I'm smarter and make more money than 90% of the people in here. I'm in that 1% category that pays for 70% of all of the taxes. And I didn't even get a graduate degree. Imagine that.
Welp, hosed that one right down, didn't we?
He'll be here for another hour, talking about how he's really, really leaving now.
PBS, which was traditionally somewhat left of center, now is under siege by the right. Insteading of progressives disowning PBS, it would be better to imitate the right & wage a long term campaign to bring it left of center. This means much greater financial support by progressives - enough to make it financially secure, combined with concerted pressure to bring it back to liberal oriented programming.
CD & Tena suggest just forgetting about PBS & the other media outlets & relying on the internet or other progressive sources for information. However personally satisfying this choice may be, it has horrible societal consequences in progressives, in general, did this.
Since the general public does not rely on the internet or obscure news sources for info, leaving the major media outlets to the right would mean total right control of the media. Our situation would be akin to those of progressives in authoritarian countries - the major news media outlets that reach the general public would be controlled by the right, with very minor information sources left for the left to talk amongst themselves.
Regarding CD's suggestion to mainly rely on the blogs for information: If the right achieves total control over the major news media outlets & then followed by great government dominance, it wouldn't surprise me if they also made it impossible for progressive internet bloggers to operate. They could tax it out of existence, regulate political blogs to death, or require complex licensing.
I don't think progressives have any alternative but to fight for major media outlets to continue to be heard that are not right wing & to push major news media organization to the left. We're in a war with the right over the dissemination of information; one we can not afford to lose.
Now that I got that off my chest, your comments are welcome.
moad dib - so, how many gay prostitute Repug ops in the WH have you uncovered.
Talk about bitching and moaning - you're so convinced that the black helicopters are here and that it's all too late that that's all you've been saying all day.
That's real pro-active, that is.
Give me a very large break, please.
Thanks bigvic.
I read dkos everyday and this site too, but have only had the nerve to sign on to haloscan, which is easy to handle.
My only problem with reading or posting on this site, is I only get one shot at it and then have to log off the internet before I can read/post more. Too much firewall but I suffered mightily from a spyware hit that wiped out almost everything I had.
If you are on dkos, could you tell them my letter will be posted sometime soon in the Dispatch, Moline IL. Web site is www.qconline.com
Thanks again
I'm in that 1% category that pays for 70% of all of the taxes
Wrong, 70% only applies to Fed income tax- does not include FICA withholding, state, and local taxes.
no imagination
C'mon no imagination!
The amount the total income tax revenue that the top 1% ponies up is infinitesimally small.
Don't concede that childish bullshit statement!
Sorry, bud, but I'm in the Holy Theocracy of Talibama.
B-1 Bummer
the reason i like trolls, the responces.
and to the other troll yea we do some bitch'n. your boy is f'n up big time. some of it so egregious you have to wonder why. don't you wonder why? maybe you are fat and happy, for now...
HarrisonB:
Is there somehow to submit that as a team name for the GOPhux summer baseball league: the Fellating Falange...
JeffieJim could play catcher...
I hope you all have a good weekend. PS...I'm betting that I'm smarter and make more money than 90% of the people in here. I'm in that 1% category that pays for 70% of all of the taxes. And I didn't even get a graduate degree. Imagine that.
rm
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enought; and, darn it, people like me."
the opinions of the trool 'rm'
If you coined this portmanteau word on purpose, I applaud you. If it was a typo, I applaud you and your Joycean subconscious. There are no accidents.
Saddest commentary I can imagine:
Christians = bigots and warmongers
We still want to hear your ideas. They will be third generation Rush-derived garbage about individual freedom, free markets, and how capitalism saved the world by dinnertime. Prove me wrong.
Too much firewall but I suffered mightily from a spyware hit that wiped out almost everything I had.
maybe you could enlighten me on that. cause i'm having a serious browser hijacking thing going on.
ah, the internets.
Is there somehow to submit that as a team name for the GOPhux summer baseball league: the Fellating Falange...
I like it! Let's get the guys over at the sportslogos.net boards to do logos and uniforms!
Shows what an idiot Howie the Putz is, bigvic. In the blogosphere, the editors and factcheckers are other bloggers and commenters. If a blogger gets something wrong, there are plenty of other bloggers, especially on the other side of the political divide, who are happy to point out the error.
Damnable thing, that freedom of speech!
Wile E. Odysseus | Email | Homepage | 02.18.05 - 4:09 pm | #
Just curious and new to this blog, but if all bloggers are editors and commentators, than why are some of these stories getting coverage in the mainstream media?
I'm not dissing you or anything. I'm just a concerned citizen who prefers to get my news from other sources and enjoys hearing the variety of opinions expressed here and at other blogs.
Re: "trool
If you coined this portmanteau word on purpose, I applaud you. If it was a typo, I applaud you and your Joycean subconscious. There are no accidents.
I do not know whether i am responsible for the coinage or not. I know it appeard by Joycean 'happenstance' in a post way back last spring or summer, and I continue to use it consciously, at ever occasion.
But as to its origination, i do not know...i'd like to think it was 'mine'
Please salute when I open my fly.
Pay enough, and I'll be Semper Fi.
Just call me Gucky,
And if you're real lucky,
You'll get to peek in the dragon's eye.
Wile E. Odysseus
Sorry, I reread your comment.
*color me embarrassed*
RE: "Trool." Then yours it shall be. "After all, we are not communists."
I like it! Let's get the guys over at the sportslogos.net boards to do logos and uniforms!
Harrison Bergeron
Have 'em do the numbers from shapes of naked men in stylized gymnastic poses?
liberal media= the set of outlets that don't propagate right-wing talking points 100% of the time. Being only 99% pro-Republican makes you a liberal.
"After all, we are not communists."
I love me some Atrios comment boards. Firesign Theater...The Godfather...a nasty new name for a nasty baseball team...a sliced-and-diced troll (ahem: trool)...and a cool new word! That was fun.
Guck Bush.
Buck Gush.
I love me some Atrios comment boards. Firesign Theater...The Godfather...a nasty new name for a nasty baseball team...a sliced-and-diced troll (ahem: trool)...and a cool new word!
AND KITTIES!
Have 'em do the numbers from shapes of naked men in stylized gymnastic poses?
You don't even want to know about the big fuzzy purplish mascot. Or what the caps look like.
Yeah, RCSanders, but that's all sandy and icky. Hmmmmm, Turner Valley....
Unlike, oh, say... Iraq or Iran?
AND KITTIES!
How could I forget. I knew I was going to need those brain cells for something but no, I just had to...do whatever it was I did that was bad for my brain. Never mind. He forgot Poland.
All the seething mess comes out of Texas.
Hi Charley.
My computer started running a little slow, but not too noticeable because I am on cable. Then one day I went into the internet and my homepage was different. Didn't think much of it because my daughters come and use computer. When I exited the internet there was a lovely grey-boxed note saying I had been taken over by "180". At that point I could no longer access the internet.
Because I am not an expert, my daughters (who are very computer literate) tried to salvage things. Had to download anything on hard drive to disc that I wanted to save and managed to save my address book but lost all my trackers, past e-mail, etc.
If you get this far, the only recourse is to wipe out your computer and start all over. But if you catch it early, you can get help from any of the firewall places. Just don't let it go too far, because any corrections you want to make other than totally out, require internet access. What a way to run a railroad.
Perle needs some Instant Karma. Fast.
As opposed to slow instant karma?
I'm betting that I'm smarter and make more money than 90% of the people in here.
Crack dealers do make a lot of money.
Haha this link is a joke. First isn't the ratio of liberal congressmen to conservative congressmen pretty close to 65:82?
Second is it unreasonable to assume that maybe CBS is trying to clean up their act in light of the Dan Rather mess and the subsequent reports?
Third dear god they called them personal accounts instead of privatization? Aren't personal and private synonomous?
is it unreasonable to assume that maybe CBS is trying to clean up their act in light of the Dan Rather mess and the subsequent reports?
"some kind of men put quarrels purposely on others to taste their valour"
(belike this a man of that quirk?)
portia - well said.
David E...Pico and Alvarado? Aren't they still in East LA??
I love it when the Fireheads come pouring out!
I now return to the far-flung Isle of Langerhans(sp)...
"There is something extremely petty and childish about picking on Canada. The wingnuts can't stand liberal free thinkers. They hate it that liberals won't drink their nasty kool-aid.
bigvic
AMEN - I love the Canadians!
I loved the Canadians even before they told DUBya to shove his war in Iraq up his ass!
The media should not be labeled SCLM or "liberal" media, we should simply call it what it is today--the right-wing media. RWM
"I hope you all have a good weekend. PS...I'm betting that I'm smarter and make more money than 90% of the people in here. I'm in that 1% category that pays for 70% of all of the taxes. And I didn't even get a graduate degree. Imagine that.
rm "
I wonder if he's a top or bottom!
uh, uh...
cumming, mother...
We used to listen to Don't Crush That Dwarf after supper nearly everyday in the dorm. We got so we could do the voices along with the Firesign Theater.
I recently came across a bunch of Goon Show mp3's and was giving them a listen when I realized that I already knew several of the voices that were being used. I then read an article that one of the FS guys was a huge Goon Show fan.
The Goon Show is like Firesign Theatre, only even more so. Find them and give them a listen.
Peter Sellers and Spike Milligan were in the cast. What more would you want?
The scandal-plagued Bush administration.
Grow up you pathetic little whiners. Nobody gives a crap about some homo called "Gannon".
Isn't that a George Soros paid site?
It is a Soros sponsored site. Either way it matters little how many they have it's how they slant the story. I guess using fake documents has something to do with it as well.
Waiting until the fire dies down to get the last word, huh trolltards?
We give a crap about the "homo who called himself Gannon but that's not really his name" because he was a no-credential hack who served as the WH plant and had access to the Plame documents.
And speaking of wealthy financiers, Got Scaife?
Morans.
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