I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarDouble, double...


GravatarAhhhh!


Gravatartoil and trouble.


GravatarFuck Bush.


GravatarAnd I'm already full of bourbon, and heading out to buy a fridge, a stove, and wedding shoes...with my future mother in law!

Good times.


GravatarThanky. I was getting ready to post at the end of the last one, after reading/lurking through 3 long threads, in the hopes that a new one would magically appear.


Gravatarmmm, haloscan fresh...


Gravatarrorschach - You're having too much fun!


Gravatar"And I'm already full of bourbon, and heading out to buy a fridge, a stove, and wedding shoes...with my future mother in law!"

The very best way to shop under the circumstances. Go for the Amana with the freezer at the bottom - those are so good!


GravatarRorschach: A man who knows how to have fun on a Saturday.


Gravatar(and, oh sure, as soon as Thers asks about my nuptials, it's time for a new thread! It's a conspiracy, I tells ya!)


GravatarHappy Year of the Rooster! (It's parade night in SF tonight... if you catch the love TV feed, you'll see Ben Fong-Torres as the anchor!)


GravatarThe strange thing is, it actually
looks good up my own asshole.
Honestly. I can't figure it out,
but there you you are.
V/R Arthur (coprophilia is still an option) Miller


GravatarOkay, it was really late and I was half-delirious, but I think I, um, may have bought a Nikon D70.

I guess I'll know for sure in a week or two...


Gravatar(and, oh sure, as soon as Thers asks about my nuptials, it's time for a new thread! It's a conspiracy, I tells ya!)
rorschach


S'matter with your nuptials.
Are they sore?


GravatarS'matter with your nuptials.
Are they sore?


Nup.


GravatarHere's what happens when you Leftists get into fights with rightwingers:

“They grabbed us and started kicking and punching. Then when we were on the floor they tried to push huge filing cabinets on top of us to crush us.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ art...1487741,00.html

LOLOLOL!!!!

Got YOUR ASS KICKED !!!!
>
>
>


GravatarHere's for Tena, and all the rest of you keeping track of those wacky polygamists now heading east to Texas....



GravatarIs light posting anything like lamp posting?


GravatarEli,
Is that the SLR digital?


GravatarEli: Okay, it was really late and I was half-delirious, but I think I, um, may have bought a Nikon D70.

Was alcohol involved?

Speaking of alcohol involvement, I'm trying to shit out a massive hangover... the coffee isn't cuttin' it, the water is helping, but I feel like I was eaten by a goat, and shit over a cliff.
.


GravatarEli, you did it! Congrats!


GravatarI happened to check in late last night on the open thread.

What a train wreck, Old Hat had ether sputtering and spewing like I have never seen before. Really, it was a thing of beauty. Don't know what button Old Hat pushed, but ether was really unglued.

Anyway, if you want a good laugh, it was at around 1:00am EST or so.


GravatarS'matter with your nuptials.
Are they sore?
Stony Curtis


My fiancee finds that hilarious, and she also wants to know the answer. And I ain't telling.


GravatarAh hell. Try this


GravatarLooney Toons Revisited:

My cable company just added Boomerang, an offshoot of the Cartoon Network.

They show lots of the old Merrie Melodies 'toons. Last night looked like a Bugs Bunny marathon. Turned on the TV this morning and they were showing Magilla Gorilla.

Good stuff.


GravatarOkay, it was really late and I was half-delirious, but I think I, um, may have bought a Nikon D70.

Dude! You won't regret it one bit.


GravatarThe best way to get Syria to withdraw from Lebanon in compliance with UN Resolution 1559 of 2 September 2004 is to begin negotiations with Israel on a withdraw from the Golan Heights. But Washington has imposed sanctions on Damascus and allows doubt to swirl around its intentions concerning the régime of Bashir al-Assad. Surely it knows that if al Assad is toppled, chaos will ensue.

the invaluable NurAlCubical posted the whole piece at the end of the thread, two bacvk, and i reposted it at the very end of the last thread, and it really IS worth the read....
just sayin


Gravatarether was really unglued.

Methinks ether sniffs a bit too much of the namesake.


GravatarSaturday dogblogging!


GravatarIf I didn't weigh 300 pounds and I could leave home without a sturdy pair of Depends, I'd be kicking some leftist asses too. So watch out!


GravatarDamn, GWPDA.
We northeasterners just have our pervert priests. Obviously, we're rank amateurs.


Gravatari don't know if i approve of this (digital photography being evil and all that) but for some good Photo Snark check out thepoorman.


GravatarAravosis tees off on that fawning Howie the 'Ho interview with JimmyJeff:

I had to get up early today to go to an event, and boy that interview got my blood moving.

1. His past. The escort profiles soliciting clients are still live, Jeff. You say once something is on the Internet it's always there. We're talking about LIVE profiles you have up. They're only "always there" if you choose to leave them live. This is ridiculous.

2. We're "abandoning our principles" by going after you? Don't lecture me about principles, Mr. Anti-gay by day, and gay-for-pay at night. You worked for anti-gay bigots, sucked up to an anti-gay president, helped him get re-elected, and expect us to, what, thank you for it?

3. "Every day I learn about another site where there are allegedly pictures of me." Ok, see, here you're lying again Jeff in pure Clintonian style. What "other sites" are you talking about? I've posted links to 8 Web sites, all definitively linked to the same escort Jeff/Bulldog in DC. You're now giving quotes to the Washington Post suggesting that these sites are not yours.

4. Valerie Plame. You didn't have the document, you never saw the document, it was written about in the Wall Street Journal. Nice. But you never told Howard that the WSJ is how YOU knew about the doc. Sure, it was IN the WSJ, but is that how YOU found out? You never told Howie in the article that no one ever TOLD you about the document. Again, parsing parsing parsing.

5. Gannon could "sense" the attack on Iraq was coming? The person I interviewed said Gannon told them that the president was going to speak to the nation in four hours to announced we were attacking Iraq. Pretty damn good "sense" he's got - he even accurately predicted the exact time the president was going on TV.

6. "People criticize me for being a Christian." What?


BTW, I guess I was the last to know that Aravosis was gay...


GravatarIs that the SLR digital

Sure is.

Was alcohol involved?

No, I don't drink, but I'm pretty sure sleep deprivation is a fair substitute.

Eli, you did it! Congrats!

Thanks!

My biggest concern was whether I would use it enough to be worth it, but the degree to which I kept thinking about it and photography in general, and the upcoming pleasant weather, made me think I probably shouldn't wait any more.


GravatarThis is the Ignore the Trolls thread.


Gravatar...and I would have got away with it too, if it weren't for those nosy kids and their pesky blogs.


GravatarDude, if you want to test the might of the left wing, drop me a line and we'll go toe to toe, fucko. Seriously, if you're in NYC, I'm down anytime you are. That's the worst thing about the right wing, you're all talk! Please challenge me.
Sweet dreams,
Your Mayberry Machiavielli.


GravatarIraq really is "the model."


GravatarOh, and this one from Olbermann was pretty good...


Gravatarthinking about it and photography in general, and the upcoming pleasant weather, made me think I probably shouldn't wait any more.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 2:38 pm | #


if you wanna, can you say what it cost? just askin


GravatarSpeaking of alcohol involvement, I'm trying to shit out a massive hangover... the coffee isn't cuttin' it, the water is helping, but I feel like I was eaten by a goat, and shit over a cliff.


What a description! I feel your pain.

There was a name stealer dancing about with my name last night. Didn't use my e-mail address.


GravatarTurned on the TV this morning and they were showing Magilla Gorilla.

RC, funny. My munchins are here, and one turned on Boom before I got up today. They just left it on while burying themselves in their GameSlaves. I was reading here, heard the Magilla Gorilla theme, and had to give them the old-timer's "wow, that's what I watched when I was a kid and had to walk three miles uphill in the snow just to change the channel" talk.


GravatarDude! You won't regret it one bit.

but i will.


GravatarHi Vicki!


GravatarS'matter with your nuptials.
Are they sore?
Stony Curtis

My fiancee finds that hilarious, and she also wants to know the answer. And I ain't telling.


You should tell say yes, and ask her if she wants to nibble on your tender nuptials.


GravatarRemember kids - Ignore the Moronic Brownshirt Fucks Day has been extended!

Ask for it by name!


GravatarThanks, GWPDA, for the article on the FLDS. I knew there was a community here - since the FLDS murdered 3 people in the space of about 5 minutes here a number of years ago.

I consider the FLDS a terrorist cell, frankly.


GravatarNTodd - now why on earth do you want a pony? Your wife is right, you've got Cairo and his friends and that's more than most fellows have.

And NYMary? We can't take real credit for these guys - after all, seems to me they started out trekking from your neighbourhood. Now, we're just trying to encourage them to find someplace more compatible with their 'philosophy.' You know. Like West Texas.... (run away, run away!)


GravatarNYMary ~

I was the one who posted as "A Regular Poster" yesterday. Wanted to stay at least somewhat discreet on that particular topic.


GravatarNorman Mailer says. . .


GravatarHecate:

Every thread is an "Ignore the Trolls" thread for me.

I know what they're doing, and I refuse to allow them to play me. Every time they get someone to respond in anger or frustration, they win, and they get paid.

I'm not putting any money in their pockets.

Trools™, practice this phrase:

Would you like to try our hot apple pie tonight?


GravatarHi Blak! Hi Everyone!


Gravatarif you wanna, can you say what it cost? just askin

Just a hair under $1100 with the zoom lens, plus another $100 for accessories from various places (case, 1GB flash card, lens cleaning stuff). I found an online store with good prices *and* a high rating at resellerratings.com (SWR's probably still going to rant at me, though).


Gravatari don't know if i approve of this (digital photography being evil and all that)

charley, you really must drink the koolaid. it's so tasty!


GravatarGWPDA,
Yeah, Joseph Smith's first stomping grounds were only about an hour away from here. But, you know, we thought he was crazy and kicked him out. Mark Twain later settled in the same town.


GravatarTrools™, practice this phrase:

Would you like to try our hot apple pie tonight?


Would you like pies with that?


Gravatarchris/tx:

Wow, that ether smackdown sounds
great. Gonna go look -- thanks for the
tip


GravatarRCSanders,

It's called Trollshit. Rhymes with bullshit.

I've been making a focused effort not to feed, as well.


GravatarDude! You won't regret it one bit.

but i will.


Heh. You Jedi are just so jealous of us Sith because the Dark Side is so cool and powerful.


GravatarCarlos troll forbidden to leave house because his b.o. causes neighbor's shrubbery to turn brown and wither. He can only go outdoors if he is completely covered with Dr. Scholl's Odor Eaters Extra Strength.


GravatarI can't find the FLDS link


Gravataryou forgot

wow, that's what I watched when I was a kid and had to walk three miles uphillboth directions and barefoot in the snow just to change the channel" talk.


GravatarDear Tim Rutten:

Just finished reading your "Reporters Should Be Shielded From Jail" article in today's LAT, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to take the strongest exception to it.

I trust you know I've written about unnamed sourcing, especially in regard to Judith Miller and her (to put it charitably) highly questionable journalistic practices in the past:

"Swallow This Deep Throat"

As you note "Miller and Cooper were held in contempt for refusing to name names before a federal grand jury investigating what may have been the illegal release of a covert CIA agent's identity. " In other words they were witnesses to a crime. Yet you and others in the "mainstream" media persist in insiting they have a special status above the law -- even while claiming not to do so.

Some highly placed individual in the White House contacted a number of journalists in the hope of floating the Plame information. As I recall a figure of around 19 or 20 was mentioned when the story first came to light. That means all of those journalists plus their editors, who were doubtless informed of this contact.. I have no doubt that the editors of the LAT, the NYT, the Washington Post and a number of other major newspapers and news providers know who this person is. Yet you and a great many others persist in claiming "The existence of a free press going about its responsibilities unfettered by governmental intrusion is the practical vindication of the individual's constitutional liberties," and "Without the daily reality of a free press, the 1st Amendment, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, becomes little more than a moral promissory note to be redeemed in some distant and idealized future." Obviously obtaing "relaible sources" is hard work. Yet I see little "freedom" in this network of insider tipsters and "Made Men" -- to borrow a term from the Mafia, which the fourth estate in its "omerta" has come to resemble.

Thankfully our government isn't an imprenable monolith. Just as the existence of dissenting voices in the armed forces and the CIA have made themseleves known in light of our unproved attack on Iraq, so does this investigation work against the increasingly criminal grain of the Bush administration. I cannot see into prosecutor Fitgerald's mind, nor do I know what he may be planning to do with Robert Novak. But the fact that he's gone in pursuit of Miller and Cooper suggests that there's more to this story than has been made generally available to the mere mortals who read the news.


GravatarTo call Judith Miller a "reporter" is like calling Glenn Gould a piano player. She has enormous editorial authority at the NYT, and in light of her escapades in the Middle East she is quite obviously a person of considerable "interest" to the CIA. In fact, her relentless pimping of blatant, easily proveable lies about Saddam Hussein's "Weapons of Mass Destruction," shows that rather than conforming to the image of First Ammendment Heroine that she and the pr mavens of the NYT have confected she's little more than a tool, working at the behest of whatever bidder will grant her the authority of an "exclusive." Indeed with her recent declarations about long-time pal Ahmed Chalabi being destined to rule Iraq, despite the results of the recent elections ( launched across the airwaves rather than written in the NYT -- a situation that raised the ire of Daniel Okrent's readers) she is well-nigh a law unto herself. Not just in American journalism, but the world at large.

That Miller faces the fate once assigned Mary Tyler Moore (in that famous episode referenced in my article) is a source of dark amusement. She's not Mary. She's not Phyllis. She's not even Sue Ann.

She's J.J.Hunsecker from Sweet Smell of Success. And the sooner this fact is acknowleged the better.

I'd appreciate it if you passed this letter on to Michael Kinsley, as I'd like to make a pitch to do an "Outside the Tent" piece about this matter.

Cheers,

David Ehrenstein

Los Angeles, Ca


GravatarNTodd - now why on earth do you want a pony? Your wife is right, you've got Cairo and his friends and that's more than most fellows have.

Oh, fine. I'll just give up yet another childhood dream because it "makes sense" and is the "adult thing to do." Like a modern day Hans Giebenrath, I am crushed beneath the wheel of expectation and responsibility. Woe is me.


GravatarHi, Vicki,
I knew I liked that Regular Poster person!

And thank you, thank you, for spelling discreet correctly. I think Guckert should be hung out to dry for that spelling error alone.


GravatarWhen Hitler decided to invade and occupy Chechoslovakia, he accused the Chechs of mounting a terror campaign against Sudeten Germans, and at the same time ordered the Sudeten German, Konrad Henlein neé Chalabi, to begin subversive provocations against the Chech governement.

We learn from history.


Gravatar
David Ehrenstein | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 2:46 pm | #


Damn, David, you give such great comment!


GravatarDavid- Great job as usual.


GravatarHey Vicki:
I suspected that was you yesterday.



GravatarNYMary - exactly - they kept going of course; and now, the blowback. Keep your eye peeled!

Incidentally, I was just thinking about the Frederick Remington museum in Ogdensburg - funny the east/west ties that turn up. There's a tremendous Remington collection here in Wickenburg, and I think often of that cramped, close little town producing Remington.


GravatarWGG's being name stolen downstairs.

Robert fucking Benchley, these trolls.


GravatarAnyone want to go hunting for fags? Let's get them fuckers.



Duncan, open a fag hunt thread.


GravatarWoe is me.

Now, since you're obviously feeling so much better, don't you have chores to do?

Btw, Red River is just coming on, TCM..... Time to start baking!


GravatarDuncan, open a fag hunt thread.
WoodyGsGuitar(aka konopelli


Yeah, this is boring. I need my fag hunting fix.


Open a fag hunt thread, Duncan.


GravatarBTW, any of you Texans heard about this?

...The (Texas) legislature is considering a bill that would block any form of municipal networking, according to the reading of the blogger I’ve linked to. It’s hard to disagree in reading the text of the bill, shown here with emendations to the existing law. This is a deregulation bill that also sneaks in some nasty language throughout.


Gravatar>>>"I know what they're doing, and I refuse to allow them to play me. Every time they get someone to respond in anger or frustration, they win, and they get paid."

LOL!!!

Just coming in here and quietly watching you losers bitch and moan is all the payment I need. And then the half-hearted, short-lived attempts at false bravado from the occasional fighter amongst you just adds to the fun.

You don't need me to look pathetic.


Gravatar
Open a fag hunt thread, Duncan.
NTodd


Yeah! Let's fucking do this!




Which fag should we go after next, Duncan? Tell us who to get!


GravatarUh, Arthur Miller just now was me.
Don't ask.

Sorry.


GravatarBush. huh, huh


GravatarNTodd - now why on earth do you want a pony?

That's a good point.

If we had a pony we would have to keep it in the basement. There are just too many wild pumas around here.

But we are interested in purchasing a Lovely Horse.


GravatarNYMary - Robert fucking Benchley, these trolls.





[bet none of them have the slightest idea who Benchley is]


GravatarHave you Ignored a Moronic Brownshirt Fuck today?

It's easy - it's fun - and it builds strong bodies 12 different ways!


Gravatar[bet none of them have the slightest idea who Benchley is]

Wasn;t he Higgins on Magnum P.I.?


Gravatarcharley, you really must drink the koolaid. it's so tasty!
NTodd

well, i probably will have to. first thing anyone says anymore if you say you are a photographer, is, "ooh do you shoot digital" to which i'd like to reply "give me the .357 mag." and i'll shoot the shit out of it.

digital photography is great for the consumer market, and that's where the money is made. it's "good enuf" for the commercial market, so digital it will be, but it's really a pain in the ass.

Eli, congrats. on your new camera.


GravatarBut we are interested in purchasing a Lovely Horse.

Don't forget to polish its hooves every single day, and take it to the horse dentist.


GravatarYou don't need me to look pathetic.

But your so good at it, it's a gift!


GravatarI'm such a brave boy.


GravatarLEFTISTS PICK FIGHT WITH RIGHWINGERS, GET THEIR ASSES KICKED:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/ art...1487741,00.html


Gravataryou're, even


GravatarArthur Miller just now was me.
Don't ask.


I remember!


GravatarWhich fag should we go after next, Duncan? Tell us who to get!
BlakNo1


We'll dig dirt on them and post it on our blogs. The mainstream media can't ignore us now! Who we gonna get?


I can't wait to hunt down some fags! Tell us who to get, Duncan!


Gravatarfirst thing anyone says anymore if you say you are a photographer, is, "ooh do you shoot digital" to which i'd like to reply "give me the .357 mag." and i'll shoot the shit out of it.

35 millimeter cameras aren't enough for ya? You really need that extra 2% to feel like a big shot?


Thanks. I hope I don't regret this.


Gravatar[bet none of them have the slightest idea who Benchley is]

Wasn;t he Higgins on Magnum P.I.?


Nah, he was the butler on "The Nanny"...


GravatarI want to be a big tough fascist like those hunky men in that article I keep pasting over and over again.

I'm sure showing those liberals.


GravatarMy hubbie has an Olympus digital camera that he really likes. For an early graduation present, we got our daughter a Sony cyber-shot DSC-T1, which is a cute little gadget.


Gravatardave

did new years in san fran 1976. watch out for the cheery types freely throwing firecrackers. hope that dangerous custom has fallen away.

eugene


GravatarLET'S HUNT SOME FAGS!!!


GravatarFucking lazy trolls, can't even be bothered to pretend to have my e-mail and Homepage.

it's "good enuf" for the commercial market, so digital it will be, but it's really a pain in the ass.

It's very easy to use, and the quality will only improve as more people adopt and drive prices down. Cameras are subject now to Moore's Law just like any computing device. And again, with the D70 and my HP 8450 printer, I've been getting stunning results for both B&W and color.


GravatarAren't you impressed yet? Why don't you give up? This is my country, not yours! I'm gonna hit you with a filing cabinet, right after I finish this Moon Pie.


GravatarBush. huh, huh


GravatarI've taken some really nice shots with my digital, a couple that were worth blowing up and framing, but I still keep the old 35mm SLR with the 90-230 Bushnell zoom. It's much better for wildlife photography IMHO. Lots of great wildlife subjects down here on the Gulf Coast, too.


Gravatar[bet none of them have the slightest idea who Benchley is]

Wasn;t he Higgins on Magnum P.I.?

Nah, he was the butler on "The Nanny"...


Jeez, you people are ignert. Everyone knows Robert Benchley is the guy who wrote Jaws!


GravatarWGG's being name stolen downstairs.

Robert fucking Benchley, these trolls.
NYMary


funny juxtaposition of your p[ost and then the trool's nominal appropriation just below it...

There is not a trool in existence, anywhere, whose mastery and experience of, or facility with, the arcana of semantics, grammar and vocabulary remotely approaches mine, of that I am completely satisfied.

By my discourse will you know me...


GravatarLeftist hypocrite - there's a small typo in your moniker. It should read: Rightwing projection.


Gravatar[bet none of them have the slightest idea who Benchley is]

Wasn;t he Higgins on Magnum P.I.?

Nah, he was the butler on "The Nanny"...

Jeez, you people are ignert. Everyone knows Robert Benchley is the guy who wrote Jaws!


Nah, that was Christie Brinkley.


GravatarHow many quatloos should I wager
that our multiple namestealer is
our old buddy Rob?


GravatarWell, well, well. Looks lilke this GanGuckerton thing is hitting a little harder than the WH wants to admit. Why, look what Aravosis now has on his site:

Well, isn't this interesting. Defenders of Gannon are now phoning people who post comments on AMERICAblog, they pretend to be me, and ask the person to stop posting on the forum. This happened to a good friend of mine who posts here (guys, get a clue, don't call a friend of mine and pretend to be me), and now it's happened to someone else.

First off, when you use a phone, there's an electronic paper trail. Second of all, when you pretend to be someone else, you're very likely bordering on a crime. If this story is so hot that Gannon's, and/or the White House's defenders, are feeling the need to try to sabotage this blog, well all I can say is thanks, and I'm posting this publicly so perhaps we can get another media story out of this.

In the meantime, folks, maybe you shouldn't post your full name to your comments, and be assured I'd never phone any of you.

One more point, this is pure Karl Rove. His MO is to contact people during a campaign and pretend he's representing the other candidate, then do something obnoxious. Good to know we're getting to them, and if any reporter wants the story, give me a holler.


Using the phone lines to pretend to be someone you're not? To get people not to post to a blog? Now why, oh why, would anyone go to all that trouble, if they had nothing to hide?


GravatarI think Dobson has a little fag-a-licious love in his closet!

Let's go after Dobson!


GravatarMy hubbie has an Olympus digital camera that he really likes. For an early graduation present, we got our daughter a Sony cyber-shot DSC-T1, which is a cute little gadget.


It's great for hunting fags, too. I'll send you the footage Duncan and you can post it on your blog. We can out fags and destroy their lives.


This is awesome! Let's get those fuckers!

Who's next, Duncan!?


GravatarNah, that was Christie Brinkley.

Didn't she have a news show with that Huntley chick?


GravatarOh, and hello all my pervy (and not so pervy) friends.


GravatarBitch and moan, bitch and moan. You liberals bitch and moan. Meanwhile, President Bush is defending Israel against all, and spreading democracy (same thing, really) in the Middle East. What's a few hundred thousand dead Iraqis against a free hand with the Palestinian from here to eternity.

Look, there's a really good candidate for democracy over yonder, just north of us. Those Syrians are born tehhrrrororrrhhhrists, you know. Same as the Iranians. To the bone.

Finally, I'd like to thank you suck....I mean, you democracy loving Yanks.

Arik

PS Elie Hobeika got what was coming to him.


Gravatar"One more point, this is pure Karl Rove. His MO is to contact people during a campaign and pretend he's representing the other candidate, then do something obnoxious."

Good Lord.

And so redolent of the trolls we've met here, before.


GravatarDon't forget to polish its hooves every single day, and take it to the horse dentist.

And shower it with sugar lumps!


Gravatarsteve simels - How many quatloos should I wager
that our multiple namestealer is
our old buddy Rob?


Sucker bet, steve.

and "rob" is actually America's Memory.

All roads lead to the same obsessed trool who will not stay away from this board because he loves to come here, stay all day into the night, and claim that we are a waste of his time.


GravatarBy my discourse will you know me...
WoodyGsGuitar(aka konopelli


All I can say, oh master of words, is ain't that the truth!

Keep up the good fight! I love reading what you have to say!


GravatarUsing the phone lines to pretend to be someone you're not?

We had a troll that used to do the same thing here. Haven't heard anyone talk about being targeted lately.

Truly hilarious.


GravatarCan't out people who out themselves, fake pie. You know, by posting nudie shots of themselves and advertise on the internets that they'll be somebody's gay fuck for $1200/weekend. But you knew that.

Try again.


GravatarYou know who is gonna really spew
any minute now. I'm talking Krakatoa.

It's his MO. You can set your
watch to it.


GravatarRe: Digi-cams

I have an elderly Kodak DX 3500. It works for me, and I like the docking station principle...


GravatarSo when is Phase Two of Operation Namesteal? You know, the one where someone posts all these comments from "Eschaton regulars" to demonstrate what evil homophobes we libruls really are?

Hell, it's probably happened already, I'm just too squeamish to frequent those particular sewers.


GravatarProbably shouldn't admit it, but I had to Google "Robert Benchley".

Back to the kid's section at the liberry for me!


GravatarHiya, LJ. How's the wheel?


GravatarWho's next, Duncan!?

How 'bout fake pie? Clearly that wacko is projecting his self-loathing homophobia shit, and is ripe for a takedown. Probably a business partner of Guckert's.


GravatarTHAT'S RIGHT LJ. IF THAT FAG WANTS TO HAVE A WEBSITE THEN HE DESERVES EVERYTHING HE GETS. NAIL THAT FUDGEPACKER!


Gravatarthey'll be somebody's gay fuck for $1200/weekend
LJ


You're right, LJ, those faggots are filthy! Let's go after some.


Duncan, tell us which faggot to hunt down next!


GravatarProbably a business partner of Guckert's.

He's the bottom to guckie's top?


GravatarRe: Robert Benchley


See Hitchcock's "Foreign Correspondent."

For any number of reasons, but
including Benchley.


GravatarYou know who is gonna really spew
any minute now. I'm talking Krakatoa.

It's his MO. You can set your
watch to it.
steve simels |


This is so fucking true, he's like Old Faithful. Except he should be called Old Asshole.


GravatarThen again, maybe the new strategy is just to bore us all to death...


GravatarWe are so winning this one. Pass the popcorn.


GravatarVicki: What a description! I feel your pain.

I hope not, sincerely!

The coffee's finally kicking in... it was just stupid, what I did last night. I let a friend talk me into visiting a neighborhood sports bar for a few beers, and I dunno... bizarrely enough, I was "hit on" by two different women. So, beers were consumed, smalltalk ensued... but the one woman who stuck around -- the more attractive one, I might add -- it became obvious that the only thoughts in her head were about NASCAR and the bitchin' Mustang she wanted to buy. I ended up walking home (just two miles -- the friend seemed to be making good progress with another lady, so I wasn't gonna spoil his fun), carrying a 12-pack of SNPA on my shoulder. Not bad for a fat guy who smokes, heh... but too many beers. Too Many Beers.
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GravatarI'm just too squeamish to frequent those particular sewers.
Eli


Yeah, the fag hunting is good right here in this sewer.


GravatarHey LJ!

I'm probably in the semi-perv category for this afternoon. Put me on pink alert.


Gravatar Except he should be called Old Asshole

No, that's just his cologne.


GravatarHey LJ! Have you heard the new System Of A Down song yet? Kick ass!

Call me whacky, but I don't think it's rob.


GravatarHe's the bottom to guckie's top?

Totally. Clearly a bottom since he acts so absolutely gaygaygay.


GravatarAnything new on this Jeff Gerkin fellah?


GravatarMy boogers taste good. If you leftist moonbats don't believe in eating boogers, then get out of my country, LOSERS.


GravatarHey, if GanGuckertCon wants to be a gay whore, that's his, er, business. What do I care?

I do kinda care if someone is a criminal and getting access to the President of the US, though. I mean, isn't it strange that I seem to be more worried about Bush's safety than his fanboys are, and I don't agree with this particular President on anything? And yet I care about his well-being enough not to want him harmed.

Alas, the trials of having a bleeding heart...


GravatarMovie buffs I see


GravatarRobert was Peter's grandfather

great comedy writer, member of the Algonquin Round Table and screenwriter for numerous Marx Bros films


GravatarJeff P ~

I don't feel your pain to that extent, but wow!

The fun we never remember we had on beer!

Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better.


GravatarLove Robert Benchley. Perhaps our *genius* trools will take his advice:

Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing.


GravatarIO think Rove is the namestealing troll. All roads, as well as outcalls, lead to Karl.


GravatarI said this down on the other thread, but I think it bears repeating.

Nothing says "you're on the right track" better than a bunch of trools spending the day here, day after day after day, saying "you're on the wrong one."


GravatarJeffraham:

Dude, you totally rock!!!!


GravatarWGG,
How's the movie?


GravatarHey fake pie, where do you live? I have a proposition for you.


GravatarThe squealings of the pathetic troll are unpleasing to Moloch. As it is written in the sacred temple scrolls, "the hit dog howls."


Gravatar>>>"Nothing says "you're on the right track" better than a bunch of trools spending the day here, day after day after day, saying "you're on the wrong one."

Exactly. On the right track to loserdom.
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GravatarJeffraham Prestonian - Nothing like being a good wingman. As for the hangover, massive water, some vitamin C and aspirin, a good meal, and a few puffs on a spleef use to do it for me.


GravatarFolks, something for the unbelievable file ...

Click my homepage and look at " wet Sock for a Brain"'s daily poll ...

I had no idea ....


Gravatar
I'm probably in the semi-perv category for this afternoon. Put me on pink alert.

I'm on black & blue alert.


GravatarRobert was Peter's grandfather

great comedy writer, member of the Algonquin Round Table and screenwriter for numerous Marx Bros films


Was he the guy who wrote, "and now I would like to sing 'Somewhere my love lies sleeping', with a male chorus"?


GravatarI mean, isn't it strange that I seem to be more worried about Bush's safety than his fanboys are, and I don't agree with this particular President on anything? And yet I care about his well-being enough not to want him harmed.

On the other hand, they do seem awfully concerned about gays getting a fair shake all of a sudden, so maybe they're attaining some kind of enlightenment.

Assuming they don't suddenly get selective amnesia the next time gay marriage comes up, but that couldn't happen because I'm so sure they're sincere this time.


Gravatarpatriotboy - IO think Rove is the namestealing troll. All roads, as well as outcalls, lead to Karl.

I do believe you have it, patriotboy.

Hiya Karl! Sorry your lover outed himself so spectacularly.


GravatarRawstory says the New Yorker and other big media are locked and loading for Gannon in Sunday, Monday editions.

And c-span2/BookTV has an interesting line-up tonight for incurable pommes de terre de divan, including Joe Wilson, George Soros, Lindsay Moran, Clare Short, and more.
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Gravatar>>>"And yet I care about his well-being enough not to want him harmed."


HAHAHA!!!

pure comedy!


Gravatarthey do seem awfully concerned about gays getting a fair shake all of a sudden, so maybe they're attaining some kind of enlightenment.

Perfect time for us to push for legalizing gay marriage in every state.


GravatarA little drinkypoo, a little rhumbapoo, a little namestealypoo...


Gravatarwhy does that little wuss keep posting about UK wingers beating up lefties?

Is he expecting the brits to assist when we decide to destroy american wingnuts?


GravatarHm. Interesting that the trollies will attack someone for saying the pathetic excuses for human beings that are trolls might be over here just to dissuade us, but can't explain why they have so little concern about the potential for harm of having a criminal in contact with their Glorious Leader...


GravatarRe: Robert Benchley

"I had just dozed off into a stupor when I heard what I thought was myself talking to myself. I didn't pay much attention to it, as I knew practically everything I would have to say to myself, and wasn't particularly interested."


GravatarI bet the French go after Deputy Leader next, but I don't see anything wrong with his Halliburton Hotties web site.


GravatarA.s.H. - Medved is doing our job for us! We're going to have to monitor the results of that poll to get just the right phrase that annoys the most wingers most of the time.

What a maroon!


GravatarJeffraham:
Actually, the best cure for a hangover
is a five milligram valium and a
Heineken, but of course it's hard to
get the valium anymore.


GravatarKarl,

It was fun, in a sad, pathetic way, to watch your lov-ah melt down on Anderson Cooper's show last night.

I thought you played with only the best, Karl. Tsk tsk...your true colors are showing.


GravatarNo, rightwinger, it's a tragedy that your hate makes you not care about that which you claim to love most.


GravatarHiya Karl! Sorry your lover outed himself so spectacularly.

tsk. tsk.


GravatarTrolls/Trools spending days here is because they truly love America and it's their way of fighting for our, ahem, freedoms.


Gravatar"Somewhere my love lies sleeping with a male chorus" was from a Marx Brothers film, Animal Crackers. I don't know who wrote the screenplay, it may have George M. Kauffman.


GravatarMmmmm...love those hot military studs.


Gravatar>>>"And yet I care about his well-being enough not to want him harmed."


HAHAHA!!!

pure comedy!
rightwinger


I personally don't want to see him harmed until after he loses the trial.


Gravatar>>"No, rightwinger, it's a tragedy that your hate makes you not care about that which you claim to love most."

LJ,

you mean this is all just about you "caring"? Then why didn'tcha jus say so? You can count me in!!


GravatarNTodd - Perfect time for us to push for legalizing gay marriage in every state.

My god, you are so right. Let them slip and slide on all the drool they've been producing for the last week on the poor poor gay JimmyDaleJeff. Holy shit, NTodd, that is just brilliant.


Gravatarwhy does that little wuss keep posting about UK wingers beating up lefties?

Is he expecting the brits to assist when we decide to destroy american wingnuts?


Fascism is an international language. Next they'll be listening to oi! punk and screaming "ain't no black in the union jack!" and think that it fucking means something.


GravatarWhoa, who knew there were Canadian freepers?

LOL, I think they're trying to be serious!

"When the television show, South Park parodied an intimate relationship between Saddam Hussein and Satan, the world laughed," noted the Independent Women’s’ Forum. "Now a paper trail revealed by Britain’s Sunday Times shows the cartoon comedy wasn’t that far off.


GravatarIs it time to come out yet. It's cold and dark in here and I am getting scared...Jim/Jeff, please let me out...

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Gravatarbut of course it's hard to
get the valium anymore.


steve - You ain't looking in the right places my friend. It's easier here in Houston to get valium than it is pot. I think they go for two bucks each in twenty packs. I don't fool with pills, but know plenty who do.


Gravatarbut can't explain why they have so little concern about the potential for harm of having a criminal in contact with their Glorious Leader...

Well, he didn't sound too violent or dangerous on his website. After all, he said he didn't leave marks, only impressions.

Then again, Junior *is* pretty impressionable, so there would have been a danger to 'Merica by potentially exposing the preznit to the gay agenda, that is, if the rightwing wasn't already so clearly on board with it.


GravatarHey,

I'm gay. Are you going to take me down and destroy my life too just because I have a website?


GravatarI think it's time for a "tokin' liberals" party. Blak, Tena, Steve ~ ya in? I'll go grab the bong.


GravatarMy country's going down the toilet, but I don't care because I'M A WINNER! HA HA HA YOU LOSERS!


Gravatarchris/tx: Nothing like being a good wingman.

Well, isn't that just the irony of it? Heh -- I feel relatively certain my pal wanted me to tag along with him lastnight in order to get me laid. Unfortunately, I can't get him to understand that masturbating in someone else's body isn't a big thrill for me...

As for the hangover, massive water, some vitamin C and aspirin, a good meal, and a few puffs on a spleef use to do it for me.

Thanks -- I'm much better now. I've done all of the above, except for the C and the aspirin. A shower helps, too.
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GravatarEven better than Medved's "poll" (which is basically a self-test for his readers to find where they rank on Rove's gullibility scale) is the blurb announcing "Michael Medved will appear on a special FOX News documentary, 'Hollywood vs. America'. Sunday at 9 p.m. EST, Feb. 20, 2005".

I hope it's as fair and balanced as it sounds!


Gravatar"My boogers taste good. If you leftist moonbats don't believe in eating boogers, then get out of my country, LOSERS.
... |


You're not a real troll. You spelled "losers" correctly.


GravatarSekmet:
Kaufman, definitely.

When they did it on Broadway,
the Marxes used to adlib so
outrageously that one night Kaufman
was hanging backstage
and interrupted a conversation by
saying "Wait a minute....I think
I just heard one of the lines I
wrote."


Gravatar More Robert Benchley Wit & Wisdom

A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three times before lying down.
Robert Benchley

An ardent supporter of the hometown team should go to a game prepared to take offense, no matter what happens.


Anyone can do any amount of work provided it isn't the work he's supposed to be doing at the moment.


As for me, except for an occasional heart attack, I feel as young as I ever did.


Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.


Dachshunds are ideal dogs for small children, as they are already stretched and pulled to such a length that the child cannot do much harm one way or the other.


Drinking makes such fools of people, and people are such fools to begin with that it's compounding a felony.


Even nowadays a man can't step up and kill a woman without feeling just a bit unchivalrous...


For a nation which has an almost evil reputation for bustle, bustle, bustle, and rush, rush, rush, we spend an enormous amount of time standing around in line in front of windows, just waiting.


I can't seem to bring myself to say, "Well, I guess I'll be toddling along." It isn't that I can't toddle. It's that I can't guess I'll toddle.


I do most of my work sitting down; that's where I shine.


I have tried to know absolutely nothing about a great many things, and I have succeeded fairly well.


I know I'm drinking myself to a slow death, but then I'm in no hurry.


If Mr. Einstein doesn't like the natural laws of the universe, let him go back to where he came from.


In America there are two classes of travel - first class, and with children.


It took me fifteen years to discover I had no talent for writing, but I couldn't give it up because by that time I was too famous.


Most of the arguments to which I am a party fall somewhat short of being impressive, owing to the fact that neither I nor my opponent knows what we are talking about.


Tell us your phobias and we will tell you what you are afraid of.


The biggest obstacle to professional writing is the necessity for changing a typewriter ribbon.


The free-lance writer is a man who is paid per piece or per word or perhaps.


The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him.

And finally:

Why don't you get out of that wet coat and into a dry martini?


GravatarHey,

I'm gay. Are you going to take me down and destroy my life too just because I have a website?
Jake


Are you whoring for this administration? Are you spreading propaganda while pretending to be a journalist?

If not, then shut the fuck up, do some sit-ups, lay off the jackass juice, and you should be fine.


GravatarHere. Get me. Watch this.


GravatarWayyyyyy ahead of you, Vicki!


GravatarGOP dirty tricksters posing as AmericaBlog proprietor have been phoning posters and telling them to stop posting about Gannon.

There's nothing to this scandal people. Story's played out. See?

yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn. Mmmkay?


GravatarHow many gay journalists are you going to destroy before you're satisfied?


GravatarI have nothing to say, but I like to laugh at people who are smarter than me. It makes my useless life seem worthwhile.


Gravatar...


GravatarUnfortunately, I can't get him to understand that masturbating in someone else's body isn't a big thrill for me...


I know this may sound odd, given the above statement, but I like the way you think on this issue. You sound sweet. Stay that way.


GravatarI'm gay. Are you going to take me down and destroy my life too just because I have a website?

Are you fucking Rove for money while assisting in the Administration's war against gays? If so, then yes.


GravatarSee that?

I'm ignoring the moronic brown shirt fucks, and I'm getting really good at it.

Like spinky all over. Hi peoples.


GravatarI'm considering getting my 2nd master's degree... in exorcism!

Then I'll come back here and cast the spirit of Nixon and Cohn out of Charlie and the wingnuts, as a public service.

Look out rightwinger and you other kooky asstards, I'm comin' for ya! OUT demon! Heeeaaal!


GravatarIgnore ignore ignore.

It's really better that way, at least with these retards.
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GravatarUnfortunately, I can't get him to understand that masturbating in someone else's body isn't a big thrill for me...

"Sex without love is an empty experience."

"Yeah, but as empty experiences go, it's one of the best."


GravatarI'm gay. Are you going to take me down and destroy my life too just because I have a website?

Not unless you're illegally receiving classified info, playing a part in outing a CIA whose job was finding WMD, and being a paid stooge who spreads agit-prop. If you're just running a gay webcam site, more power to ya--and could you provide me with the URL?


Gravatar think it's time for a "tokin' liberals" party. Blak, Tena, Steve ~ ya in? I'll go grab the bong.
Vicki

you gonna leave out a fella born 4/20, and whose surname MEANS cannabis???

Clottish behavior, mes amis...


Gravatar>>>"If not, then shut the fuck up, do some sit-ups, lay off the jackass juice, and you should be fine."

Oh I see. So you'll use my gayness to destroy me if I decide to "whore" for the Republicans? Interesting. Keep talking.


GravatarI'm gay. Are you going to take me down and destroy my life too just because I
have a website?
Jake | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 3:23 pm | #


Uh, actually, if you wrote virulently
anti-gay articles for a fake news
organization, I'd take you down
in a heartbeat.

Makes sense to me.


GravatarThat's right Jake. You're a FAG. And we is goin FAG HUNTING!!!


Gravatarrightwinger, if you're sincere, then consider yourself counted. Care about something that doesn't involve hating. But it's difficult to believe the sincerity of someone who has so little faith in the caring of others that he must put that word in quotation marks. Seek first to care, before you ask others to care.


GravatarNo, really! I'm a gay journalist! Why doesn't anybody believe me?





Damn.




Have to try something else, I guess.


GravatarWhew....Haliburton Hotties, now that's disgusting!


GravatarWGG ~

Hell No!

We're equal opportunity around these parts!

Had I known of your interest, you'd be among the first invited!

I imagine that being high with you would be a blast of tangents unexplored!


Gravatar
I know this may sound odd, given the above statement, but I like the way you think on this issue. You sound sweet. Stay that way.
Vicki


Not for nothing, but several animal studies looking at sexual antagonism and mate selection conclude that females of several species preferentially mate with "attractive" or "sexy" males DESPITE very high direct costs (mate doesn't stick around, difficult labor, large eggs, large energy expenditure).

The idea is that the INDIRECT benefits of siring attractive offspring outweighs the direct costs ...

So ... don't stay sweet ... ???!!!


GravatarHow many gay journalists are you going to destroy before you're satisfied?

If Guckert's the only traitor, then I'm fine with destroying just 1. If there are other traitors to America's True Ideals, then I will happily help destroy them as well, gay, straight, bi or transgendered.


GravatarSo you'll use my gayness to destroy me if I decide to "whore" for the Republicans?

No we'll use your prostitution to do it.

If you're really gay, why do you support a party that wants to pass a constitutional amendment sactioning discrimination against you?


GravatarMake pot legal, and I'm in for the tokin' liberal brigade. Until then, I'll have to deal with reality as best I can.


Gravatar>>>"But it's difficult to believe the sincerity of someone who has so little faith in the caring of others that he must put that word in quotation marks."

Just because I put the word care in quotes doesn't mean I don't believe in caring. It means I don't believe YOU care. See the difference?

You Lefties are so brilliant!!!


GravatarVicki:
Gave up pot years and years ago,
so I can't join the party. In
Woody Allen's phrase the stuff used
to make me unbearably wonderful.

But party on anyway -- I'm with you in
spirit!


GravatarHow long until some of this trolling anti-gay sputum gets quoted in a Michelle Malkin column, as proof of the hate-filled posters on Atrios' blog?

I give it less than a week.


GravatarRemember folks, wear the title MoonBat with pride.

Beats the hell of out a trivial hardware piece (wingnut) or moronic brownshirt.


Gravatarsteve simels: Actually, the best cure for a hangover
is a five milligram valium and a
Heineken, but of course it's hard to
get the valium anymore.


I found out that me and the "pams" don't mix -- the hard way. Took a 5mg Val, and proceeded to fall asleep at an ear-bleedingly loud Hoodoo Gurus concert, circa 1990.
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GravatarIgnoring is next to Godliness.


Gravatargiven the regularity with which malkin whines ABOUT this blog, I'm sure her or her minions surf it regularly.


GravatarJake, you're suddenly silent.

If you're really gay, why do you support a party that wants to pass a constitutional amendment sanctioning discrimination against you?


Gravatar>>>"If you're really gay, why do you support a party that wants to pass a constitutional amendment sactioning discrimination against you?"

Who says I don't?

And if I did, it wouldn't make the outing of that pathetic loser any less despicable. You should be ashamed of yourselves.


GravatarOh I see. So you'll use my gayness to destroy me if I decide to "whore" for the Republicans? Interesting. Keep talking.

No, we'll use your whoring to destroy you. Your homosexuality is beside the point. Although, I must admit that if you're shilling the most homophobic administration in recent memory, it is kinda funny that the only way the media would notice that you're a traitor is because we point out you run gay websites. Rich with irony, one might say.


GravatarSilly me, been wondering all over the house, forgot where I put my bong.


GravatarI imagine that being high with you would be a blast of tangents unexplored!
Vicki


not to put too fine a point on it, but, yeah, well...i usta get really stoned before i went to teach those once-weekly, three-hour pedagogy marathons, cuz it loosened me up enough to play in public with the ideas that emerged from the conversations...students said they liked those classes


GravatarWhy don't you get out of that wet coat and into a dry martini... is that from Mr. and Mrs. Smith?


GravatarAnd if I did, it wouldn't make the outing of that pathetic loser any less despicable. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

You mean the guy who told us he was "hiding in plain sight" and dared us to dig into his side businesses? We didn't out him any more than Kerry outed Mary Cheney. He was out, by definition.


GravatarHow many gay journalists are you going to destroy before you're satisfied?
Jake | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 3:26 pm | #

Uh, all the ones who are publically
anti-gay, if possible.

What's the problem?


GravatarTroll Alert

also known as oddity.


GravatarThey're not buying it, Mr. Rove? What do I do now?


Gravatarjust watched the anderson cooper video with gannon/guckert.

it's funny, when gigi was talking about simple stuff, like why his writings were mainly just transcripts of WH press releases or talking points, he did ok. but whenever the questioning got tougher, like how he got his press pass, and did the white house know about his background, he started blinking his eyes rapidly.

now i don't proclaim to be an expert, but even i know that rapid eye-blinking is one of the signs that someone's lying, or at least not being completely truthful, trying to hide something.


GravatarAnd if I did, it wouldn't make the outing of that pathetic loser any less despicable. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Jake


The outing of pravda from within the media circus is worth any effort.

The fact that he's a gay male prostitute is just ironic icing.

You see, the fundie base finds you and other gays icky ... it is possible that this admin has stretched itself so thin in its whoring that they turn upon themselves in a rightwing implosion.


GravatarAnd if I did, it wouldn't make the outing of that pathetic loser any less despicable. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Howe do you out someone who peddles his ass on a dozen websites?

For the record, I fully support outing any gay who helps the GOP with their anti-gay agenda. It neutralizes them.


Gravatarit wouldn't make the outing of that pathetic lose

He outed himself, Jake. He provided all the material. It was no secret.


Gravatar>>>"No, we'll use your whoring to destroy you. Your homosexuality is beside the point."

I know Gannon didn't bring his gayness up. But somebody did.

So if it's besides the point, why was it such an issue? You hunted down his websites and put him on display as a filthy fag just to get at Bush. It's despicable.


GravatarJeffraham:
I hope they played "Bittersweet" before
you nodded off.


GravatarThey're not buying it, Mr. Rove? What do I do now?

Taunt them more and maybe put your gay escort website in Homepage. That might lure them in.


GravatarHey Jake,

we's coming to get you next you FAG.


GravatarHow many gay journalists are you going to destroy before you're satisfied

I wasn't aware that we'd destroyed any gay journalists. Now, if you're talking about gay prostitutes posing as journalist, then, how many you got?


GravatarEli, your story reminds me of the time my husband went out to buy sneakers and came home with a wide screen TV instead.


GravatarWhy don't you get out of that wet coat and into a dry martini... is that from Mr. and Mrs. Smith?
Tarzan


I thought it was from one of the Thin Man shows...Wm Powell and Myrna Loy (and Asta)...but i dunno fer shere...


GravatarUm, the probing into his secret identity began *before* anyone had the faintest idea that he was gay.


GravatarSo if it's besides the point, why was it such an issue? You hunted down his websites and put him on display as a filthy fag just to get at Bush.

Are you trying to tell us that you see know difference between prostution and homosexuality? How much do you charge?


Gravatargannon's whoring as a male prostitute didn't bother me nearly as much as his whoring for bushco.

not too hard to understand.

stop whining. fuck him until the press pool is purged of plants.


Gravatarrightwinger, you presumed to think I believed you. If is a conditional. It didn't mean I believed you were sincere. Or that I didn't. It also doesn't mean I was unaware of how you thought you were being so clever in your sarcasm. It was abundantly clear that you weren't sincere. You were the one who believed my compassion for your inability to reason occluded my ability to perceive you clearly.


GravatarI'm not even trying to make sense anymore. Wheee!


GravatarWGG ~

Next trip I take to the southwest, most likely this Summer, I'd love to meet you. We could "toke in" honor of "liberals" everywhere!

I'm meeting up with krsaz in April, but there's not enough time during that trip. We have a lot to accomplish in 48 hours...


Gravatar>>>"I wasn't aware that we'd destroyed any gay journalists. Now, if you're talking about gay prostitutes posing as journalist, then, how many you got."

That's right. We didn't destroy a journalist. We destroyed a gay fudgpacking whore! And there's plenty more where he came from!


GravatarEli, your story reminds me of the time my husband went out to buy sneakers and came home with a wide screen TV instead.

Was it a running TV, or more of a cross-trainer?


GravatarTena:

I would go one farther and remove the word gay from that one: A prostitute pretending to be a journalist. Whether or not he's gay doesn't matter. That GanGuckertCon is a whore does.


GravatarIT'S FEB. 19TH. Just so you know.


Gravatarfilthy fag

Huh? He looked pretty clean to me.


GravatarI have the same e-mail address as "rightwinger". Neat trick, huh?


Gravatar>>>"You were the one who believed my compassion for your inability to reason occluded my ability to perceive you clearly."

whatchu talkin bout willis? Get off the meds!


GravatarThat's right. We didn't destroy a journalist. We destroyed a gay fudgpacking whore! And there's plenty more where he came from!

Do you really think we'd be easier on a heterosexual fake journalist prostitute?


GravatarImplosions are wonderful things. Also feeding frenzys, feeding frenzys are good. The self destruction has begun, it is and always has been inevitable. I will gain immense satisfaction watching it unfold.


GravatarOkay let me get this straight...

We have a psuedo news man
working for a psuedo news service
with ties to the GOP
Lobbing blatant softballs to the
whitehouse
under an assumed name
with manjor discrepancies on his press pass and clearance
who doesn't really formulate original news
copying white houe press transcipts
who ran at least one sex based web site
soliciting his services as a sexual escort

and these folks are concerned we are after him because he is gay.

Meanwhile pigs are doing barrel rolls over the frozen landscape in hell.


Gravatarput him on display as a filthy fag just to get at Bush.

"Filthy fag"?

Wait a minute, who's homophobic here?

That has to have been intentional - this trool is having us on.

I'm ignoring from now on.


GravatarWell, I'm away to my novel now. Y'all play nice. Or as nice as you can with so many piles of trolll dung to navigate.


GravatarHow do you out a prostitute?
I'm having trouble with that,
conceptually.

I mean, how is turning tricks by the
side of the West Side Highway any
different from waving your willy
on a website?


GravatarOh yeah very well could be from Thin Man. All those movies from the 30's/40's were so great with the dialogue. Nowdays writers only have to be creative with where to place the verb.


GravatarNext trip I take to the southwest, most likely this Summer, I'd love to meet you. We could "toke in" honor of "liberals" everywhere!

I'm meeting up with krsaz in April, but there's not enough time during that trip. We have a lot to accomplish in 48 hours...
Vicki


there's all kinds of Doobie intendres ways to say "sure, call me"...i got a real reliable source...


GravatarLJ, you didn't really expect a troll to know what "occluded" means, did you?


GravatarDaiiiissssyyyyyy, daaaaiiiisssseeeeyyyy, giiivvvee meeee yooouuurr annnnssswwweeerrrr doooooooo.....


GravatarLJ's right ~

The word "gay" is merely an adjective with regard to Guckert's prostitution.

How he got in with no journalism creds and how and why he had access to classified info and top presidential advisors is the bigger story.


GravatarI know Gannon didn't bring his gayness up. But somebody did.

So if it's besides the point, why was it such an issue? You hunted down his websites and put him on display as a filthy fag just to get at Bush. It's despicable.


Hey, when you say "bring it on" who are we to refuse?

And it's NOT an issue. That's what "beside the point" means. What is at issue is that he gained access to the WH press room even though he didn't work for a media organization, but rather a partisan organization. Then when they realized he need media cover, a bogus news company was created by said partisan organization. And whilst many a legit journo couldn't get even a day pass, this guy did with a fake name (something female reporters cannot even do with their professional/maiden names). What's more, he claims to have been privvy to illegally leaked classified information.

I'll make a deal with you: you stop making false claims of gay bashing, and I'll never mention that somehow a gay prostie got access to the homophobic White House. Shake on it?

What's more, to prove that you and I earnestly want to protect gays from similar problems in the future, let's work together to promote gay marriage across the land. The only way to prevent potential blackmail of homosexuals is to remove any stigma associated with their orientation and acts of love.

I'm glad we had this little chat, and I am looking forward to working with you to finally give homosexuals the civil rights they have always deserved and have always been denied. You are truly a good person.

Peace.


GravatarAnd what's with the use of the words "faggot" and "fudgepacker?" Real liberals never use slurs even when they're parodying conservatives.


GravatarThanks -- I'm much better now. I've done all of the above, except for the C and the aspirin. A shower helps, too.
.
Jeffraham Prestonian


if you still can remember to do it after a night of too much drinking, a coupla' Vitamin B-12 and a couple glasses of water before you get to bed works wonders


GravatarI mean, how is turning tricks by the
side of the West Side Highway any
different from waving your willy
on a website?
steve simels


The photos more or less say it all, don't they? You're exactly right.


GravatarI thought the trolls were going to be ignored. Just can't resist, huh?


GravatarHey trolls, why don't you get a Mac?


Gravatar>>>So if it's besides the point, why was it such an issue? You hunted down his websites and put him on display as a filthy fag just to get at Bush. It's despicable.
Jake | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 3:37 pm | #


GravatarI won't resist replying. When these guys get quoted by Malkin, I want people to see that their bigotry was countered.


GravatarI'm more in favor of fundie hunting than fag hunting. Admittedly, a less challenging sport, but why not participate in canned hunting, just like our Repig 'friends'?


GravatarI believe good sir dave already announced an extension on IMBF day, no? Especially when they bleat the same suddenly discovered sanctimonious concern for homosexuality?

Bated breath for where this goes next. I am not generally an optimist (having seen to many scandals that should've taken Dubya down come and go over the past 4 years), but the degree of buzz that seems to be surrounding this does seem to be unprecedented. This odd, unhappy man truly does seem to be at the center of a whole house of cards ready to come crashing down.


Gravatartoo many

especially ironic given that I'm supposed to be grading papers right now.


GravatarThis time, I think they're here on a mission. Ignoring them won't stop them from fulfilling it.


GravatarI thought the trolls were going to be ignored. Just can't resist, huh?

Oh, but NTodd's call for the end of hostilities and the shared effort to promote the acceptance of gay marriage was just so beautiful.


Gravatar>>So if it's besides the point, why was it such an issue? You hunted down his websites and put him on display as a filthy fag just to get at Bush. It's despicable.
Jake


GravatarI hate myself and I want to die.


Gravatarsdf,
Hahaha. Did it all morning. This is a good respite.


GravatarJake, you didn't answer me. Do you think prostitution and homosexuality are the same thing?


GravatarActually, Eli, it was a 42 inch Mitsubishi that still lives, nearly 18 years later...I'm not sure what sort of sneaker that compares to

I'm always suspicious whenever my husband needs new shoes. Last year, it was a color photo printer and this year, a new DVD player.

He narrowly avoided a Vaio on one trip.


GravatarUh, guys, you do realize that when I
said the other night that I had go
see the Missus I was kidding? I mean
come on -- me married? Whose gonna
buy that?
V/R Arthur (wee willy wanker) Miller


GravatarTarzan:
The film I was just in, the dialogue was written in a style commensurate with the period: 1865-69. Also period clothes were de rigeur. I had a wool coat with a half-cape attached to the shoulders. I asked the costumier if i could buy it? $800 reproduction. The shoes were also made accoring to contemporary custom. They sucked...it was wet, and cold, and the shoes leaked, and had no arches...guys playing soldiers had to run back and forth one day, endlessly, in those shoes...i felt sorry for 'em...

This was film #4 in the 6-part, TNT?Spielberg western saga: Into the West...i know i'll be in one image, at least, in the film: the final shot. if you see the film, at the very last shot, I'm the guy on TOP of the engine at the extreme right-hand edge of the shot...


GravatarWhen these guys get quoted by Malkin, I want people to see that their bigotry was countered.

The counterposts won't be quoted, of course.


I wonder where The Gay Millionaire has gone off to - I know him from another blog, and I'd love to see him tear these phony wankers a new one.


GravatarI believe good sir dave already announced an extension on IMBF day, no?

My bad. I thought it was IIMBF day, so I was ignoring IMBF day.


GravatarI know Gannon didn't bring his gayness up. But somebody did.

So if it's besides the point, why was it such an issue? You hunted down his websites and put him on display as a filthy fag just to get at Bush. It's despicable.


Hello? We found his websites on the internets. He put himself on display you dipshit.
-


GravatarUm, the probing into his secret identity began *before* anyone had the faintest idea that he was gay.

and as Eli so perspicaciously points out that's really the essence of this story.

SECRET GOVERNMENT IS BAD!!!

it's also not democratic.


GravatarYes, kids, we got your letters and we listened to what you had to say: Ignore the Moronic Brownshirt Fucks Day has been extended!

And remember - every brownshirt ignored means one more fry-dropper at Jack in the Box! Cut the lines today!


GravatarI'm supposed to be grading papers right now.

So am I, but I'm so freaking behind (and my midterm grades are due to the Registrar on Friday), I figure what's one more day of drinking and taunting trolls?


Gravatarpie's right - C'mon, trools - you're so concerned for Mr. Guckgannon, let's join hands and issue a press release together, calling for an end to the Right's struggle to equate gay with "subhuman".

That seems to be the gist of your comments today - so let's get real here. If you are so fucking seriously concerned about poor old JimmyDaleJeff getting outed, then I challenge you to show the rest of the world your tolerance for homosexuality.

Call for a ban on attempts to legislate discrimination against gays and lesbians.

OR SHUT THE FUCK UP.


GravatarWhy do I get such a kick out of
doing that?


GravatarI won't resist replying. When these guys get quoted by Malkin, I want people to see that their bigotry was countered.
patriotboy


yeah, but good luck getting Miss Little LuLu Internment Camp to post those, or even acknowledge their existence


GravatarIs the bush admin gonna martha stewart howard stern?

SHOCK STOCK PROBE
February 19, 2005 -- The Securities and Exchange Commission has launched an insider-trading probe of shock jock Howard Stern's deal to join Sirius Satellite Radio.
In the two weeks running up to the blockbuster announcement last October, Sirius stock soared nearly 40 percent.

Even though there had been some speculation in the press that Stern might jump to satellite radio, the feds want to determine if someone who knew the deal was coming started buying up stock in anticipation of shares skyrocketing when the news got out.
http://www.nypost.com/news/natio...lnews/ 40825.htm

Nothing wrong with asking questions I guess. Like goss' statement that Iraq is now a training ground for terrorist that are dispersing to the rest of the world. So, the question is just what makes the neo-clowns think we are safer now that Iraq is a mess?


Gravatarjust as with clinton, you can't get a good scandal buzz going unless there's sex involved.

lie to gin up a phony war that kills over a thousand americans and untold iraqis? who cares?

let a gay male prostitute into the whitehouse? full speed ahead!


GravatarI hate myself and I want to die.

Do we have an Engrish fan among us?


GravatarHi everyone... I notice Atrios says he's having a light posting day. I feel that I need to Blogwhore a little bit and ask for some visitors over at my blog. I've been posting all morning and afternoon, yet no-one shows up. How bout a doorbell ring and then you can run away. Thanks - you can see by my smiley face that I'm crying over here.


GravatarWhat Tena just said! Yeah!

Steve,

Because you can, and because he is such a flickering twitch. Or maybe I should just say "supernova asshole."


GravatarI know him from another blog

Sniff. Sob. (Getting contol of self, with difficulty.)

So... you're seeing another blog, then. We should have guessed it when we saw that lipstick-red HTML code on your collar.

So... (sob)... how long has this been going on?

(Weeps.)


GravatarHet guys,
What do we know about John Spratt of South Carolina? He did the Dems radio address today and sounds not half bad.

"Democrats believe that deficits matter," Spratt said. "That's why over eight years of the Clinton administration, we worked hard to balance the budget. And we succeeded. We moved the budget from record deficits to surpluses no one thought possible."


GravatarSallyh, maybe you should just buy his sneakers for him? Or at least not let him out of the house without adult supervision?


GravatarI find it extremely amusing that the people who were absolutely rabid over every little nuance of Monica and Clinton's affair are in such a dither over a man who once had nothing to hide and now resorts to wearing camouflage.


GravatarI thank the Lord Jimmy Jeff Gannon Guckert isn't a cartoon character. If that were the case, Our Leader would be in real trouble.


Gravatarhadenough, I saw some strange things happen with a client's 401k participants when I was in emp benefits. Obvious insider trading issues with employees shifting to company stock plans during a one week period. And man, were they fanatical about the timing. Interesting stuff....


GravatarSo... you're seeing another blog, then.

Nah, I broke it off when I found you guys. But we're still friends, and occasionally get together for a quick lunch.


GravatarRe The Possible Stern/Sirius Probe

I remember checking Sirius stock the day Stern mentioned going to Sirius. I believe it was a Monday. The stock definitely began a meteoric rise on the Thursday before. Not a few months but definitely a few days before. Anyone checking could see the cat (er Sirius dog) was out of the bag.


GravatarRe The Possible Stern/Sirius Probe

I remember checking Sirius stock the day Stern mentioned going to Sirius. I believe it was a Monday. The stock definitely began a meteoric rise on the Thursday before. Not a few months but definitely a few days before. Anyone checking could see the cat (er Sirius dog) was out of the bag.


GravatarWhere'd our *concerned* little trool go?


GravatarVicki....yup, that's it I guess.
Now off to pay a visit to oldwhitelady


GravatarNah, I broke it off when I found you guys. But we're still friends, and occasionally get together for a quick lunch.

I just wish I could believe you...

(Stuffing face with Dove Bars in tearful fashion.)


GravatarI wonder how soon before we find out that the happy hooker was on the taxpayers nickel with Armstrong Williams and friends?


GravatarAnd if you have a spare moment, look at a 3 or 4 year graph of Halliburton's stock prices. Interesting reflection of the times. Stock symbol HAL


GravatarOldWhiteLady ~

I visited your blog ~ like the references!


GravatarHey Eli,
I hear that Nikon D70 is so fast it could catch Michelle Magagag with her mouth shut.


GravatarOuch... Sorry for the double post. I literally just changed to a new keyboard a minute earlier and it happened when I hit F5. It never happened before on the keyboard. Is the trick to close the Haloscan window before F5 ing
Again...Sorry


Gravatar(Stuffing face with Dove Bars in tearful yet manly fashion.)


GravatarWhat will the trolls say when it's discovered that JeffyJims secret friend in the WH is none other that the Chimpster. Will they reject the Chimp or will they once again use some kind of twisted logic to him.


GravatarDoh!....'twisted logic to him.' should be 'twisted logic to defend him.'


GravatarNAIL THAT FUDGEPACKER!

Hey! Leave Green Bay outta this!


GravatarOldWhiteLady:

What, no self-portrait?


GravatarWell, let's just try that link again. Thank you, Vicki and Dave for coming over My blog for some reason, the other link had www.haloscan at the front of it. I wonder if it will do the same, this time?


GravatarWas it just me, or did oldwhitelady's link not work?

Anyway, I fixed it.


GravatarI'm more in favor of fundie hunting than fag hunting.

I'd be up for that.

Let's hunt for fake fundies too. Like Guckert, who participated in a marathon bible reading.... what a fucking hypocrit.


Gravatar"Why don't you get out of that wet coat and into a dry martini?"
Robert Benchley - The Major and the Minor (1942)


GravatarWill they reject the Chimp or will they once again use some kind of twisted logic to him.
**
Im guessin the twisted logic one. Then theyll create a big story to take the attention away ....


GravatarWhat will the trolls say when it's discovered that JeffyJims secret friend in the WH is none other that the Chimpster. Will they reject the Chimp or will they once again use some kind of twisted logic to him.

Our Leader should be praised for helping a young man out with his internets business. What Jimmy Jeff did was "uniquely American"--like that single mother with three jobs Our Leader recently praised. It's all part of becoming an ownership society.


Gravatar"I thank the Lord Jimmy Jeff Gannon Guckert isn't a cartoon character. If that were the case, Our Leader would be in real trouble."
--Gen. JC Christian, patriot

Oh General Sir, I beg to disagree. At that point the FCC could just fine him $500,000 and pull him off the air. (I do think about reading his obituary though.)


GravatarOn the sten thing

Look at the mess of a "case" asshcroft had against stewart. Year old notes, lying expert witnesses, the usual slipshod work asshcroft is know for. There was no there there. Stren could easily face the same fate.

But, I don't think stren would go quietly.


GravatarI'm guessing fake assassination attempt. Or threats, thereof.


GravatarOldWhiteLady:

What, no self-portrait?
steve simels | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 4:08 pm


No, for some reason, I just can't understand it, camera pictures make me look kind of fat... and old... I guess I could paint one, hmmm..


GravatarNYMary--

All I know about Spratt is that he is a Democrat & my mother was a Spratt, so he is okay with me!

BTW -- Congresswoman Slaughter is an Episcopalian & that is okay with me, too



GravatarHey FourLegsGood ~

how're the gams?


Gravatar"Why don't you get out of that wet coat and into a dry martini?"
Robert Benchley - The Major and the Minor (1942)


I've seen that, yet I don't remember that line (at least, not from that movie). I was probably too busy going "Mmm... Ginger Rogers..." to notice any dialogue.


Gravatarhypocracy is hypocracy any way you slice it


GravatarAs for digital cameras, i really love the feel, heft and quality of my old AE-1, and my collection of lenses, but i am a photographer of the take shitloads of 'em school, and digital saves me a lot of Monet.

Just got an Olympus C-770 Ultra-Zoom, as in a week ago. Nice unit, good for closeups and the optical zoom is 10X all by itself. USBs right to the computer so no card reader needed. All in all a fun toy; my first big use will be the wife's belly dancing school show tomorrow.


Gravatar"Why don't you get out of that wet coat and into a dry martini?"
Robert Benchley - The Major and the Minor (1942)
QuentinCompson


Thangs, QC...I doubt you could get away with that title today...


GravatarWhat will the trolls say when it's discovered that JeffyJims secret friend in the WH is none other that the Chimpster?

Terror alert level RED! Terror alert level RED!


GravatarWas it just me, or did oldwhitelady's link not work?

Anyway, I fixed it.
dave | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 4:08 pm


Dave, it wasn't just you. Thank you for fixing, too.


GravatarThe quality of flame-baiting trolls has really detriorated around here lately. Back in the day, a good troll would study the nuance and language used by the target(s), fashion a similar sounding argument but with a single, innocent seeming difference. Then, when someone engaged on the topic, this difference would be pushed, prodded, and expanded untill some generaliztion could be suddenly turned into what appeared to be a contradiction. Then a charge of inconsistency or hypocrisy would be introduced, but "more in sorrow than in anger" in order to milk it to its utmost. It could take days sometimes to accomplish a good troll. Now, we get turds that pound on a keyboard -- the thought that they might be getting paid for this sorry ass level of performance is pretty pathetic.


GravatarHey Vicki - you find that bong yet... it's getting mighty close to 4:20.


GravatarAll in all a fun toy; my first big use will be the wife's belly dancing school show tomorrow.

Friday Belly Blogging... I like the sound of that...


GravatarWhat will the trolls say when it's discovered that JeffyJims secret friend in the WH is none other that the Chimpster. Will they reject the Chimp or will they once again use some kind of twisted logic to him.

I want to know what Condi will say when she finds out JimJeff and Pres Poopypants are alleged butt buddies.


GravatarWell, since I'm not alone in this, perhaps I can grade papers and read y'all at the same time? Although my students might get confused why I accuse them of "trolling" every time they use passive voice, and of being a Moronic Brownshirt Fuck whenever they make an unsubstantiated assertion.


Gravatar"I'm supposed to be grading papers right now.

So am I, but I'm so freaking behind (and my midterm grades are due to the Registrar on Friday), I figure what's one more day of drinking and taunting trolls?"

Tee-hee. I have something like 75 years worth of Great War books, speeches, analyses, maps and debates to scan, and I'm not doing that either.

You know, my yard's big enough to have a -couple- of ponies. Wonder if Arthur would mind much.... Nah, then we could put on a show!


GravatarBTW, o.w.l., thanks for the mention on your blog... I'm honored!


GravatarQuentinCompson (you little Fauulkner you) thanks for the movie title - even they were good! All I know is I can't wait to use this one night!


GravatarAll in all a fun toy; my first big use will be the wife's belly dancing school show tomorrow.

It'd beat the hell out of pictures of cats. Course, I'm biased, as I don't like cats but I'm quite fond of bellydancers.


GravatarI think catalexis may be hearkening back to some bygone Trollden Age that never really existed...


GravatarI don't know much about Spratt, by the way, but I hear his wife could eat no lean ...


GravatarWell, since I'm not alone in this, perhaps I can grade papers and read y'all at the same time? Although my students might get confused why I accuse them of "trolling" every time they use passive voice, and of being a Moronic Brownshirt Fuck whenever they make an unsubstantiated assertion.

OK, I won't tell you what just shot out of my nose, but you're to blame for it.


GravatarMen, don't let this happen to you. See your proctologist, this year. Trust me, it won't hurt a bit.


GravatarCourse, I'm biased, as I don't like cats but I'm quite fond of bellydancers.

I would be happy with either one on my lap right now.


GravatarRe: Drug administration devices

I prefer to roll 'j's.
Bongs get all stale and yucky.
Pipes get hot, harsh, and coughing gives me headaches...
A 'j' is fun to prepare, easy to roll, cool to smoke, and roaches are so easy to store...

they don't call me "Doctor J" for nuttin (and it wouldn't be cuz i can jump)...


GravatarBarndog!

Woo-Hoo!

Couldn't find the bong, but the rainbow colored, deadhead style glass pipe will do!


GravatarI watched this belly dancer put six quarters on her stomach, and flip each one over one at a time (using her stomach muscles).


Gravatarsdf,

Anything you can do to beat them out of using passive voice will be a service to humanity. I spend half my time editing passive voice out of pleadings. Aaarrrgh!


GravatarI don't know much about Spratt, by the way, but I hear his wife could eat no lean ...
sdf


Nothing like a nursery rhyme reference to get me all giddy!


GravatarI don't remember it in that Ginger and Ray movie either; in fact, I clearly hear and somewhat picture Cary Grant saying it, which leads directly to the old "brain/reality" problem.
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Gravatarthink it's time for a "tokin' liberals" party.

Ummmm, i don't smoke. Even trying makes me retch. Maybe a plate of brownies on the side for we virgin-lunged?


GravatarHoytC -- I think that's exactly what they fear, and why they're so frantic about it. Deep down, they're afraid President Codpiece is implicated, and the only ad hominem they can come up with is to accuse the left of "gay bashing" because ... well, it's really the only remotely questionable thing out of all this. Web sites are "public places" for the purpose of this discussion, so the accusation of invading the guy's privacy don't really stick very long ... it's clear he was exactly what he was being accused of being -- a fake reporter paid by the GOP, inserted into the gaggle to loft softball questions to President Codpiece when he was uncomfortable about a question asked by a real journalist. But that liberals mention that the guy was gay -- ooh! Let's lean on that and try to turn it into the story! Because basically ... they got nothin'


GravatarDoh!..Must improve typing and spelling skills..


GravatarI don't remember it in that Ginger and Ray movie either; in fact, I clearly hear and somewhat picture Cary Grant saying it, which leads directly to the old "brain/reality" problem.

Maybe it was The Bachelor & The Bobby Soxer?


GravatarI watched this belly dancer put six quarters on her stomach, and flip each one over one at a time (using her stomach muscles)

HEY! No makin' change with - or upon - my wife!


Gravatar"I spend half my time editing passive voice out of pleadings. "
They think it makes them sound grave and lawyerish.


Gravatar('course, I don't remember it being in *that* either...)


GravatarA.s.H. -- The poll was hysterical. Why didn't Medved just head it "Which version of the truth can't you handle the most?"


Gravatarhypocracy is hypocracy any way you slice it


Or spell it, apparently....


GravatarShe's actually a beard. i am sooooo gay. Oh, JEFFIE! YOOOOO-HOOOOO!


Gravatarcory,

Certainly! I'm all for equal opportunity cannabis experiences!


GravatarFor the record, I just want to say
that I have lead a totally blameless
life, and therefore there is
absolutely nothing
I've ever done that be used to out
me in any way.

Except for that one night with ether
and the Liquid Prell. Oh wait, that was
concensual. Okay, I'm off the hook
again.


Gravatar the thought that they might be getting paid for this sorry ass level of performance is pretty pathetic.
catalexis


maybe that explains the big cash Williams and friends were getting


GravatarLiquid Prell?

Haven't heard of that in years!


GravatarSorry steve, ether is now officially Old Hat's bitch.


GravatarMan, this is scary stuff. I'm looking at the finance section of my ISP's site. Just checking the news on General Dynamics, Lockheed and Halliburton - there's about 10 days worth of news links for each company, and you should see the dollars being thrown to these corps. It's downright frightening.


GravatarAnything you can do to beat them out of using passive voice will be a service to humanity.

And how. I had a crotchety 11th grade English teacher who drummed it into my skull, and now I try to drum it into my students' skulls. Amazing how many of the students at the highly selective place where I teach stare at me blankly when I try to explain it to them.

OK, I won't tell you what just shot out of my nose, but you're to blame for it.

Okay, I think I can now retire from blog-commenting happy and fulfilled (not to mention deeply honored) -- where can you go, really, after having helped to clear patriotboy's nasal passages?


GravatarNYMary--

Turns out Spratt is a Presbyterian -- well, the Spratts were always kind of uppity -- grandma -- wouldn't let Mom play with the Catholic kids -- she was always kind of uptight when she was sober

BTW --the power pop CD is great

Vicki -- got your email -- thanks -- you know where to find me (BTW -- the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers always said, "Remember, drinking beer and smoking dope is like pissing into the wind" -- also "Dope and no money will get you through bad times better than money and no dope")

Benchley -- only quotation I remember is the telegram he sent a friend at the beginning of his holiday in Venice, "Streets full of water -- please advise"


GravatarI've been hanging out over at Americablog today. Quite a few interesting tidbits of info over there:

The Bushes Heart Clinton -- apparently the Pres. really enjoys hanging out with the Big Dawg. I mean, he really really likes him.

Conservatives Whining at talk of tax hike -- the President has mentioned making high-income workers pay more in SS taxes. Perfect.

Then, the linkage between JimmyJeff and that porn and prostitution ring that was thriving during Bush 41. I had no idea such a thing was going on. I need to do a little research on that today. Anyone have info to share on this?

It almost makes the Bush re-election liveable seeing the freepi so miserable.


GravatarI watched this belly dancer put six quarters on her stomach, and flip each one over one at a time (using her stomach muscles).
chris/tx


I once had a belly dancer girl-friend, and everything you might imagine is true, true, true...

I used to lie on my back on a weight-training bench (cuz it was no wider than my own body which she could straddle and...

(breath starting to become ragged...clutches groin spasmodically and lurches toward shower...)


GravatarI've been thinking today about the similarities between Gannon and the aide of Maryland's Republican governor Erlich. Both posted at FreeRepublic. Both were basically engaged in psyops. Erlich's aide was spreading, on FR and elsewhere, lies about a potential rival for the governorship. Gannon was shilling the Bush agenda and helping Lame Duckie and Scotty deal with the fact that they can't answer hardqwestchuns. Interesting parallels. Wonder how many other plants there are out there?


GravatarExposing Chimpy as being gay would be the single most important event in wingnut history. It would make watergate look like shoplifting. The sound of exploding heads would be deafening. Other than the rank hipocracy, most libs would be like, "that's cool."


GravatarVicki:
I have a stash.

chris/tx:
Which thread was the ether smackdown
on? I couldn't find it on the late
night.....


GravatarWGG- I'll be sure to look for you! My brother is actor in New York but very rarely on film (last was Arnold movie-something with a kid-name totally escapes me)When his one appearance did come up on screen, we all jumped up hootin and hollerin for his time in the sun! It's nice to live movie star life vicariously through him!


GravatarBTW, earlier I linked to that great Leonard Pitts column. I knew he had won a Pulitzer, but I didn't know he started out as a music writer, including a stint writing for Casey Kasem (!), and didn't switch to a "general interest" column until the early 90s:

Pitts was a stringer and then the editor of Soul, a pioneering national black entertainment tabloid... Pitts also wrote for all-news radio stations KFWB and KNX in Los Angeles, was the co-creator and editor of Radioscope, a black entertainment radio newsmagazine, and wrote for Casey Kasem's Top 40. He did radio special events, including: Blond Ambition: The Madonna Story; King: From Atlanta To the Mountaintop; Who We are: The Life and Times of Black America; Roots, Rock & Rhythm and Young Black Men: A Lost Generation?, a Mutual News documentary.

He received a first place CEBA award for Who We Are; a second place CEBA for King; and Angel award for a KFWB series, "Success"; the Armstrong award for Young Black Men and two International Radio Festival awards for Casey's Top 40 and Young Black Men.

In April 1991, Pitts joined The Miami Herald as its pop music critic and won an award from the American Society of Sunday and Feature Editors and three National Headliner awards. In 1994, he became a general columnist for The Herald and Knight Ridder News Service.


So, Simels, get cracking!


Gravatarhypocracy is hypocracy any way you slice it


Or spell it, apparently....
Hecate


(Snort, spit, spew...)


GravatarI'll tell you what the wingers are afraid of, and it's not that Bushie was GuckGannon's "bottom" -

It's because GuckGannon is the link between Rathergate and the Freepers.

Where do y'all think they came up with the whole "documents were forged, look at the kerning" thing? GuckGannon worked for the WH and spent a lot of time on Freeper blogs.

That's what they are afraid of - Rathergate is getting ready to blow open.


GravatarHecate --

As many "plants" as they can afford -- sadly, a lot -- apparently the entire MSM

How's that case coming?


GravatarHmmmm...Saturday Belly Blogging...i like it. i'll even contribute.

One of
these lovely ladies has the misfortune of being married to me....


Gravatarlast was Arnold movie-something with a kid-name totally escapes me

Last Action Hero?


Gravatarbeginning of his holiday in Venice, "Streets full of water -- please advise"
Prior Aelred


Ummm, okay, ignore the bellydance post, ok? (blushes furiously behind beard)

Didja check out the Christ in the Desert site, padre?


GravatarWow, I REALLY need to Photoshop Mike-n-the-Bots (or maybe Joel, since freakin' Mike is a BushBoy) into that picture....


GravatarBTW, any of you Texans heard about this?

Holy crap! No, but thanks for telling me. We have wifi in our downtown district, including the RiverCenter mall. Why would the Texas lege want a bill against municipal wifi? /naivete

Now I have another item to research on top of the Bush 41 prosti ring.


GravatarThe Bushes Heart Clinton -- apparently the Pres. really enjoys hanging out with the Big Dawg. I mean, he really really likes him.

Well duh. Clinton gets the rock star treatment everywhere he goes overseas. The Bushies get angry lynch mobs and rotten tomato's.

WGG - huh,huh. What I was thinking but wasn't going to go there, but since you bring it up, reminds me of this panamanian ballerina...good times...good times.


GravatarYou know, my yard's big enough to have a -couple- of ponies. Wonder if Arthur would mind much.... Nah, then we could put on a show!

GWPDA, what, this ain't good enough for you?

you're funny.
digital is still evil.


GravatarRather,

Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope.


A-fn-men to that.
-


GravatarDear Prior Aelred,

Last brief files early next month. If I can make it through then without killing my purported allies in the case, I will consider it a major victory. Was at work earlier today and will have to work some tomorrow, but come home early to cook dinner for some guests.

How's the knee>


GravatarBTW -- the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers always said, "Remember, drinking beer and smoking dope is like pissing into the wind" -- also "Dope and no money will get you through bad times better than money and no dope")...
Prior Aelred | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 4:28 pm | #

I remember the truck driver saying "A dancing cat, I need to stop taking those little white pills". This was the episode where Fat Freddy's Cat was trying to hitchhike home.
The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers have given me and my family - brothers/parents/possibly my sister(she might or might not have read them) - some real good entertainment.


GravatarI wonder how rorschach is making out with those wedding shoes?


GravatarAnyone see Maher last night? He's sobered up since the election; he sees the way the world is turning and is adjusting his views accordingly.

Anyway, I may not agree with his politics, but he's always had the right idea about the Islamist problem. I saw his Broadway show on HBO, and one of the great lines was:

"Of course this is a clash of civilizations. They keep their women in beekeeper suits..."


GravatarThe Honorable Christopher Cox

Dear Sir

Never before have we been at a crossroads as that which we stand today. Your strength, courage and leadership in the fight on terrorism and our problems with liberalism and intellectualism can only inspire the noble animal within all of us.

Thank you sincerely for finally revealing the TRUTH about Iraq and the weapons of mass destruction that our communist liberal press continue to cover up.

Bless you sir, you are the beacon for a new and glorious age. I thank you. The true American people thank you. God thanks you

Yours Truly,
XXXXX

PS: When will you be revealing the TRUTH about the faked moon landing and our government's attempts to hide the existence of a master alien race living in underground caverns in New Mexico? And what about the secret government report on fluoride and the poisoning of our precious bodily fluids? My "friends" tell me that Saddam had fully equiped underground ICBM silos with fueled missiles only moments away from launching when we reached Bagdad. So much TRUTH, so little time.


GravatarDown under:
Middle East: 12 Australians wanted over Hariri’s murder
29 Hours,32 minutes Ago
[Middle East News]: Lebanon’s Justice Minister Adnan Addoum said on Friday that authorities were hunting for twelve Australian men wanted over the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq al-Hariri.

Addum said that six of the suspects left Beirut for Australia hours after Monday’s deadly blast, adding that police found traces of explosives on aircraft seats.

Hariri was killed in a huge explosion in Beirut which also claimed the lives of additional 16 people.
http://www.keralanext.com/news/i...d.asp? id=121073


GravatarHoyt C ~

I bet he's tripping the light fantastic!

(Love ya, rohr!)


Gravatarsteve simels, ether smackdown starts about here and goes on down for a while. Old Hat got him all apeshit, it was quite magical.


GravatarThis may have already been mentioned in other threads, but this guy is donating a buck for every comment he gets on his blog to Medecins Sans Frontieres.


GravatarThat might be true. I don't know, if it is true, whether or not it should be a cause for relief. If what passes for trolls today are all that trolls ever were, then I have dreamed of worthy adversaries who never lived and never came to match wits with me or anyone else. If, however, trolls of true cunning and wit did once live among us, and these poor, pale shadows are all that remain of their kind, have we then anyone to blame but ourselves? Did we so love the hunt that all the great battles were consumed before our appetites were sated? Have we, in truth, slain all the great trolls and have nothing left for our sport but these mewling pustules of playground quality declamation?

No contest exists twixt their like and ours. No striving of intellectual muscle; now 'tis but foul smoke in our nostrils; now 'tis but refuse underfoot. Mayhaps Eli is correct and I but dream of dragons that never were. These scrawny lizards in our midsts could not grow so great as those dragons. My power to pretend is not so strong as to lend a glamor on such a nothing. Be they dreams or memories, they do not live among us now.


GravatarThat's what they are afraid of - Rathergate is getting ready to blow open.
Tena

the secret revealed. i hope you are right, i hope it sticks, and most of all, i hope there is a crime that get's pinned to as many of these bastards as is feasible.


GravatarWhat do we know about John Spratt of South Carolina?

What do you want to know about?


GravatarLast Action Hero Yes! It was funny cos he would call home constantly telling us how he was chosen for this particular scene or how many takes it took to do this or that...
and when the movie came out he's in one scene jumping up and down like a starstruck fan at a movie premiere. But it was one more than I ever did!


GravatarMichell Malkin is supposedly the next "journalist" to be outed as a payed pundit. Her email: malkin@comcast.net


GravatarI'll tell you what the wingers are afraid of, and it's not that Bushie was GuckGannon's "bottom" -

It's because GuckGannon is the link between Rathergate and the Freepers.

Where do y'all think they came up with the whole "documents were forged, look at the kerning" thing? GuckGannon worked for the WH and spent a lot of time on Freeper blogs.

That's what they are afraid of - Rathergate is getting ready to blow open.



Oh, the plot thickens or sickens. The trollz sure are in a dither.

heh heh.


GravatarLet's call him Guckert. That's his real name. Besides, it sounds funny.


GravatarCharley,

I think Tena is right about Rathergate. The Mapes connection, Rove ~ all of it.

I hope so.

Too bad this didn't happen prior to the election, however.


Gravatar"great trolls" = "jumbo shrimp"


GravatarSupport our troops. Bring them home.


GravatarThese scrawny lizards in our midsts could not grow so great as those dragons

catalexis, that's what i used to think about rush. i was wrong.

of course you are right about the useless idiots who waste bandwidth in here.


Gravatarpie ~

Do you garden? Here's what I observed today in West Michigan:

I was cruising my garden, and I think I see the first hint of crocus peeping through the ground!

There is hope for the year!


GravatarLet's call him Guckert. That's his real name. Besides, it sounds funny.

"Bulldog".


Gravatar"Turns out Spratt is a Presbyterian -- well, the Spratts were always kind of uppity -- grandma -- wouldn't let Mom play with the Catholic kids -- she was always kind of uptight when she was sober"

-This- from a Piskie? Kindly remember just what congregation it was that consecrated Piskie Priests in the Colonies....

Uppity Presbyterians. Hah!


Gravatarsdf - Thanks for posting Steve the link, got distracted. It was pretty funny. ether really does not like being called tubby or chuncky does he? And specially when Old Hat got into the SF vs Sacramento or whatever that was all about.


GravatarI liked the belly dance post (I wasn't always a mink, you know)

Hey everybody! I just got my "NEVER SURRENDER" bracelet from Working Assets -- it's purple -- one of our postulants said, "People will think you're gay!" -- another monk (who is gay) said, "I don't think so!"

check out NeverSurrender.org

I have been to Christ in the Desert -- I use a tschotki made by their abbot (I used to make them myself but I don't have the time anymore -- I spend it all reading comments on Artios's Eschaton)


Gravatarsteve simels,
Boy, I can't say that. Course, I've never done anything I'm ashamed of. Done a lot that other people might be ashamed of but that's their problem, not mine. That being said, I've never been really one to hide things I've done, which means I'll never have a career in politics.


Gravatarcatalexis, some of the trolls who used to post here actually believed the Bush lies that Saddam had WMD's and needed to be taken out. Their little allusions have been shattered big time, and the post-invasion debacle has been embarrassing.

The smart ones don't bother to defend georgie and the neocons any more.

Only the very stupid and/or very partisan idiots keep playing the game, but they've lost all credibility. Their only weapons are to twist words and pretend that up is down, etc.

Pathetic.


GravatarPrior A, you're sounding a bit like Clouseau all of a sudden...


GravatarWhat bothers me is, the closer the media gets to exposing a crime or crimes in the WH. The closer we get to the WH using their ace-in-the-hole, and old family friend, Osama Bin Forgotten. Just what would be the WH's reaction be to another attack on American soil. Would it be the clampdown? would the Dems or anyone in the miltary put up a fight? would civil liberities end as we know them? I wouldn't put anything past these fuckers.


Gravatar That being said, I've never been really one to hide things I've done, which means I'll never have a career in politics.
Backslider


Word on that. I'm not ashamed of what I've done, either...even though I've had bouts of wild in me. However, too wild, apparently, for the squeaky clean life of politics. Otherwise, I would run. I have Barbara Boxer's passion right now.


GravatarBackslider:

My life has not been lived in such a manner as to admit of much scrutiny, if enough of my reputation were to survive sufficiently long to permit me to be considered for elective office by any district other than Bedlam...


Gravatar(breath starting to become ragged...clutches groin spasmodically and lurches toward shower...)

Reminds me of years ago when one of my buddy's wife was with child and I asked him how he was holding up.

His reply was that he's jacked off in the shower so much that every time it rains, he gets a hard on...


GravatarDo you garden?

Vicki, yes, but no crocuses. Tulips and daffodils. But if I take the evergreen branches off the flower box, I'll bet the pansies I planted last fall will be starting to bloom again.


Gravatarsdf:
thanks for the link -- I laughed a
lot.


GravatarRush is little more than an image in a funhouse mirror. For all the "power" his dittoheads ascribe to him he will not appear in an unfriendly forum, he will not debate anyone, and he insists (in memoranda of understanding prior to appearing) that any comments he might make in someone else's production be "unrebutted" by host or other guests.

He wants to be treated like Kim Jong Il, all adoration all the time. Whenever he does get called out on his crap he reverts to the "I'm just an entertainer" defense. And, that's true, that is all he is. It's the sorry excuses that serve as his audiance who need to be reminded of that more often.


Gravatar Would it be the clampdown? would the Dems or anyone in the miltary put up a fight? would civil liberities end as we know them?

yes
no
yes

No less a military loon as the notorious satchell-assed gunsel Tommy Franks had the temerity to admit that the US Constitution would probably not survive another attack of the ferocitry or severity of the 'terror' attacks of 9/11...


GravatarI think Tena is right about Rathergate. The Mapes connection, Rove ~ all of it.

Mapes - hey, ain't they suing? With discovery? Subpoenas and judges' orders and power of law and all that?

I remember when the criminal, John Mitchell, abused my country and went to prison for it. As US Attorney General, he was the head of the government's laws and their enforcement, and had powerful connections. If the rule of law can nail his ass, it can take down these motherfuckers.
-


GravatarPie,

One nice thing about Michigan, I know there are many, but one nice thing is the change of seasons. I love mid-Winter, when flora starts waking.


GravatarWould cedric mind....
Limpballs the Entertainer.


Gravatarcatalexis,
So, in other words, he's a coward, like the Savage Weiner. Say what you will about Coulter or Malkin or Buchanan or the rest that infest the public airwaves: at the least they got the intestinal fortitude to face opposition (such as is given by the craven network heads).


GravatarNYM--Missed your query...i wrote a bit about it up-thread...somewhere...

if ya missed it, i'll email ya the pertinent shit (cold, wet, period clothes and shoes. But the Transcontinental Railroad was fininshed...and I am proud to have been a apart of the effort...)


Gravatarspelling not good today --SIGH!

"monk"

"Atrios's"

BTW, WGG (aka K) -- I am in occasional ecorresopndence with one of the nuns at Our Lady of the Desert (convent a couple of miles from Christ in the Desert)

Hehe -- I was reared Baptist -- it wasn't till I was growed that I become 'Piscopalian

(Presbies sit on Man's Chief End!)


GravatarBackslider:
Ever hear Bill Hicks' routine about
how he couldn't get on the Supreme
Court because of his porno collection?


Gravatarbut one nice thing is the change of seasons.

Warm spring days are the BEST!


GravatarSnowdrops are out! The only reason I have them is to see them in February.

Bellydancing is fun. Just don't eat a lot right before a class... I know what steve is talking about, by the way .


GravatarSorry, Prior A - I don't usually razz people about spelling, but that one just tickled me...


GravatarAnyone see Maher last night? He's sobered up since the election; he sees the way the world is turning and is adjusting his views accordingly.

Little Goofy Fucker:

Maher is a pimp. Stand up is not the boy's strong suit. He's about as funny as a turd in the punch bowl.

You can take your war of civilizations and shove it up your ass.


Gravatar(and "Prior A" works for me in kinda the same way that "Principal Victoria" on South Park does...)


GravatarOne nice thing about Michigan, I know there are many, but one nice thing is the change of seasons.

Fall, October specifically, is my favorite time of year in Michigan. The weather is absolutely perfect all 24 hours of the day.


GravatarClouseau?

I've always identified more with Herbert Lom's character...

Gotta run to Vespers


Gravatarsteve simels,
Of course. My brother's now ex-girlfriend, upon first viewing the late Mr. Hicks on video, asked Little Brother, "So, when did Matt see this guy first?" He said around '90 or '92, somewhere in there, and she said, "That explains a lot."

I gotta admit, it's almost an automatic reaction of mine to go into full-on doubting Thomas mode whenever some politico from either party says s/he's someone with a strong "moral base" and an interest in "family values" who has a "strong relationship with God". No, you're not. If you were, you'd just live your life in that manner instead of trying to constantly convince everyone that you do. Simple as that.

And as much as I hate to admit to such cynicism on a lovely Saturday off, I generally think the people that crow the loudest about "moral values" have the most to hide.


GravatarSean, October is lovely here. I love the smell of autumn in Michigan.


GravatarBackslider:

Nail, meet head.


GravatarBackslider - And as much as I hate to admit to such cynicism on a lovely Saturday off, I generally think the people that crow the loudest about "moral values" have the most to hide.

Oh honey, that's just one of those universal laws of nature - they who talk the loudest about their virtue are the ones to watch, because they are not virtuous.


GravatarFall is nice, too, but sort of bittersweet, because you know what's coming.


GravatarBTW, WGG (aka K) -- I am in occasional ecorresopndence with one of the nuns at Our Lady of the Desert (convent a couple of miles from Christ in the Desert)

in a previous post i told you about my family connection with the monastery and its first two priors. I was not even aware of there being a convent in the vicinity. Don't get around there much anymore since I moved south (ABQ)...
I have long thought the Rio Chama was the most beautiful in all Northern NM...Say what you will about her "art" (great posters, otherwise, not so much), Georgia O'Keefe had an eye for landscape...if you travel this direction, lemme know and we'll do comida...


GravatarClouseau?

I seem to recall him using the word "minkey"...


GravatarVicki, am I wrong or doesn't it rain every Halloween in GR, though? Seems to be it would always be that day when the weather would turn cold and wet.


GravatarOr should that be, "Hammer, meet nail?"

Sheesh. Try to give someone props and I fuck it up.


GravatarBackslider:

Nail, meet head.


Whaaaaaaa???!!!


GravatarPrior Aelred sez:

Hehe -- I was reared Baptist -- it wasn't till I was growed that I become 'Piscopalian

Or as I like to call them: Catholics Without a Cause.

(A friend of mine is an Episcopalian priest; she thinks the line is funny.)


.


Gravatarbecause you know what's coming.

true, true. This is the time of year that I don't miss Michigan all that much. By now I'm sick of the cold and you know there is more to go.


GravatarI was cruising my garden, and I think I see the first hint of crocus peeping through the ground!

Hey, Vicki - thanks for the news. I went and checked on my croci - they're peeping thru also. Yippee!!!

Cept'n we're supposed to get 3-6" of snow tomorrow night. I reckon Punxatawny Phil told the truth this year.


Gravatar"Whaaaa?" Indeed.

(hides head)

(slinks off)


GravatarTena,
Hey, I've seen small-town Southern church-inflected (somehow or another) politics at work. I'm from Mississippi, remember, and that's definately a Southern thang: say you're acting this way, but really, act however you want. All that matters is appearances. If it's on TV, it's real. Ain't that America?


Gravatarthey who talk the loudest about their virtue are the ones to watch, because they are not virtuous.

Yeah, I always put one hand over my wallet, and use the other hand to make sure they havn't stole my watch.


GravatarSorry, Prior A - I don't usually razz people about spelling, but that one just tickled me...
Eli


I too, chortled over his not always having been a mink...but you don't just gratuitously diss a priest--especially one up in the hierarchy-- for his spelling gaffes...you laugh, but don't say nuthin...just sayin...


GravatarBackslider - It's kind of the same thing that my mother taught be about other women. She taught me to beware of any woman who acts like she wouldn't say "crap" if she had a mouthful.

Them "sweet" kind are deadly dangerous.


GravatarObviously, my latest efforts are proof that I need to get outta here and actually do some work...

...OK, well, maybe in a minute or two.


GravatarBackslider:
You got that right, buddy.


GravatarBomb Drudgie's tip line...my tip:
Pssst, Matt, a male prostitute has been working in Jesus' White House...developing.

ROTFLMAO!!!


Gravatarbut you don't just gratuitously diss a priest--especially one up in the hierarchy-- for his spelling gaffes...you laugh, but don't say nuthin...just sayin...

there're always more of us around than you think....


GravatarOr should that be, "Hammer, meet nail?"

Sheesh. Try to give someone props and I fuck it up.
Captain Gota | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 5:06 pm | #


It's okay. And as my buddy and Magnolia State songsmith Paul Thorn was told by Roberto Duran after receiving a rather serious pummling from the pugalist, "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail."


Gravatarwildly OT, no Anne Lamott articles posted on Salon since late October. The talk of flowers reminded me--for her theme that we plant flowers even if Bush wins.


GravatarAll that matters is appearances. If it's on TV, it's real. Ain't that America?

Someone in the bookstore just showed me a book (being returned; nobody bought it) about W.'s pious religiosity. I told her his "pious" image reminded me of Bakker, Swaggert, Robertson, Falwell...all the pious humbugs who are only about $$$ and power, with no real concern for God.

But then, most people thing $$$+power=God, so....

...and that equation continues to amaze me. Then again, if the church weren't an institution, and behind such stuff...which is a further paradox, because if the church weren't an institution, all knowledge of the God of Abraham would have long ago disappeared....not, from my POV, a good thing, so.....

Yes, it's a slow afternoon. Why do you ask?


GravatarI can't remember who wrote it---but a while back, someone made the case that Bush got away with it exactly because it WAS lip service and nothing else. Something about, at least he was paying respect to the idea that the nice frauds were at least trying to ACT proper, even if they really weren't.

Or something like that.


GravatarI worked as a roofer one summer during college in East Texas. The first rule my boss taught me - If you have to go into their attic, don't say anything about the liquor stash they keep at the top of the attic stairs.


GravatarRipley,

It does seem to rain here on Halloween! God, that's too funny. Must be the curse of the fundies!

The nicest Halloween I've ever had in Michigan was in Marquette of all places, 1981. It was warm, ab beautiful night ~ very magical. I had all kinds of fun. Went as Glinda the Good Witch.

*Good times/sigh


GravatarTaking a break....have fun!


Gravatar "I'd rather be a hammer than a nail."

Shit, Duran - Manos de Piedra. A truly bad, bad man. Whipped the shit out of any and all comers. Until the 2nd Sugar Ray bout, that is.

Roberto was truly an iron man, tho.


GravatarDamn. Now that I know that, I'd'a liked to have seen Paul Thorn when he was in town a couple days ago.

This, after missing James McMurtry last night because my kid had a basketball game.


GravatarI can't remember who wrote it---but a while back, someone made the case that Bush got away with it exactly because it WAS lip service and nothing else. Something about, at least he was paying respect to the idea that the nice frauds were at least trying to ACT proper, even if they really weren't.

This sounds about right. So long as we can say we are doing the right thing, we don't actually have to pay the price and do it....

...much cheaper all around, and more profitable, to boot.

I'll retire to Bedlam....


GravatarIt smells of spring here right now. Even though winter will come back with a vengeance it's a nice smell to remind us that the snow won't be for ever.


Gravatarwildly OT, no Anne Lamott articles posted on Salon since late October. The talk of flowers reminded me--for her theme that we plant flowers even if Bush wins.

Sounds like the end of Dark Victory, which was on last week.

heh.


GravatarI worked as a roofer one summer during college in East Texas. The first rule my boss taught me - If you have to go into their attic, don't say anything about the liquor stash they keep at the top of the attic stairs.

Oldest joke in Smith County (East Texas), a "dry" county, was that we sobered up all the Baptists whenever the wet/dry issue was on the ballot, so they could vote it down again.


GravatarRMJ, between you and the Prior (and my new pastor, who drinks Long Islands), I might not become an atheist after all.


GravatarWhat will the trolls say when it's discovered that JeffyJims secret friend in the WH is none other that the Chimpster

But, but he's NOT gay. He's just on the down low.


GravatarI remember when the criminal, John Mitchell, abused my country and went to prison for it. As US Attorney General, he was the head of the government's laws and their enforcement, and had powerful connections. If the rule of law can nail his ass, it can take down these motherfuckers.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it'll never happen, partly because of Watergate.

You see, the ReTHUGs' response to the crimes of Nixon and his cronies wasn't to clean up their act and become decent people again. No, what they've been doing for the past 30+ years is manipulating the system -- particularly the media and justice apparatus -- so that they'll never again get called on their BS.


GravatarBut then, most people thing $$$+power=God, so....

...and that equation continues to amaze me. Then again, if the church weren't an institution, and behind such stuff...which is a further paradox, because if the church weren't an institution, all knowledge of the God of Abraham would have long ago disappeared....not, from my POV, a good thing, so.....


Granted, I'll admit to being less than respectful to religious trappings, but isn't this the basis for nearly every powerful church institution? I mean, yeah, the Catholic Church hierarchy's so far removed from the world of guys like Father Damien it ain't even funny, but are we to believe the Southern Baptist Convention is just a collection of simple church folk right in tune with the thinkings of Roger Williams, much less some of the fine men I've known who stood in the pulpit?

Mankind as a whole worships just one god, and that's a god of power. If there were no power in money, it'd be as irrelevent as me and Gene Roddenberry wish it were. Power is the utmost, and everything else - be it religion, money, sex or politics - are mere tools to get just one more hit of the sweetest drug known the man.


GravatarRMJ, between you and the Prior (and my new pastor, who drinks Long Islands), I might not become an atheist after all.

All my old East Texas Baptist friends would be so confused....


GravatarRobert - It cuts deeper than just being able to say something without paying the price for it. The claims of piety and virtue actually are smokescreens, as you know. They are thrown up to hide the truth - look at Swaggert.

You know as well as I do that these guys are nothing other than conmen. For fuck's sake, they all use the same handful of lawyers, if I recall my Ole Anthony correctly. It's such a time-honored scam that they mentor each other in how to fleece the flocks.


Gravatarso that they'll never again get called on their BS.

That's what thugs like that always think - that they'll *get away* with it.

Hasn't happened yet. Something about failing to learn the lessons of history comes to mind.


GravatarWell said, Tena, but sometimes I wonder if for the average souls who lionize these smarmy phonies, it's not that they're fooled, but that they're content knowing these guys are TRYING to fool them. Validates them somehow.


GravatarY'know, I hate it that every time I hear Guckert referred to as JeffyJim, I am reminded of Jerry Jeff Walker.

Sad that a good man's memory is soiled as such.

"Up against the wall redneck muthers...


GravatarI was just over at Brent Bozell's web site, doing a little research. He has a new column up on "attack bloggers," and guess how it ends? It blames the Clenis™ . Surprise~!


GravatarWoo hoo, my copy of "Beneath A Panamanian Moon" just arrived. I'm off to curl up in a comfy spot....


GravatarNever underestimate the power of the Clenis™!!

To fire up the freepers, at any rate.


GravatarCaptain Gota - well, the psychology of the people who follow these idjits eludes me, frankly. I don't understand that depth of gullibility. So you could well be correct.

I pretty much understand the televangelists and morals czars - they're easy. The people who fall for them are another matter.


GravatarI second Captain Gota's point. Do we not all relish an inside joke? The act on stage is a bit different but the framework is similer.


GravatarValidates them somehow.

They want to believe that these conmen care about them, when it couldn't be farther from the truth.
Goes to show you how little they're actually loved and cared for in real life.

Then Bush sends their children off to war and refuses to personally acknowledge their sacrifice (other than a form letter) or allow the country to view them as they're laid to rest.

It is so sad.


GravatarOT, but it's an open thread - Man, it's a bad day in Iraq. Major attacks all across the country, 55 dead.

I just got the headline off of Google news - I didn't follow a link, but I'll go get one if you want me to.


GravatarHasn't happened yet. Something about failing to learn the lessons of history comes to mind.

Well, they certainly got away with Iran-Contra. In fact, the Shrub even appointed two of the worst Iran-Contra criminals -- Eliott Abrams and John Poindexter -- to powerful positions in his administration, and the SCLM was eerily silent. Not to mention the appointment of John (My Death Squads Target Nuns) Negroponte as Intelligence Chief.

I have a gut feeling that by the time the country wakes up to the totalitarian thuggery of the Republicans and starts punishing it, I'll be long gone, dead of old age -- and I'm not that old.


GravatarHere are some candidates for future wanker of the day awards:

http:// www.rockymountainnews.com...3559945,00.html


GravatarGranted, I'll admit to being less than respectful to religious trappings, but isn't this the basis for nearly every powerful church institution?

Well, of course (unfortunately); but if we let our pragmatism override our idealism, none of us would have anything to complain about here, except being among those out of power. And the complaining is usually much more idealistic than that.

One can look at any institution pragmatically, and say it is only about power. Or one can look at it idealistically, and say it is about high ideals, unfortunately corrupted in the present, but to be returned in the future to the state it knew in the past.

Or one can grasp the paradox: without the institutions, no memory of the past; but in the institutions, a desire to destroy the past, in order to make the present more immediately comfortable.

Or something like that.....


Gravatar"55 dead."

Aw, shit. It's so fucking pointless.


Gravatar I pretty much understand the televangelists and morals czars - they're easy. The people who fall for them are another matter.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 5:28 pm | #


A much smarter man than me once said something along the lines of if you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. However, if you actually make them think, they'll hate your guts. There's something to that, I think.


GravatarWell, they certainly got away with Iran-Contra.

Would they have gotten away with it today?

Bush got his war, but did he *get away* with it?


Gravatar55 dead? Jeez....horrible.

Yep, Freedom is on the march.


Gravatar"Or something like that....."

Hey, that's my line.


GravatarIran-Contra was truly breathtaking. I didn't even follow politics, and when I heard about it I was in disbelief that no one cared.
Little did I realize that 10 years later the power of the Clenis would wake us up from our slumber! Even now, the gift that keeps on giving!
Aaaaah hayevv siyunnnd!!!!!


GravatarI was just over at Brent Bozell's web site, doing a little research. He has a new column up on "attack bloggers," and guess how it ends? It blames the Clenis™ . Surprise~!

Let me guess: "Attack bloggers"="those who outed Gannon," v. "the righteous handful" who brought down the evil Dan Rather at "liberal" CBS.

Even though "they" apparently (I visit precious few blogs) outnumber 'us.'

Right?


GravatarIFHB, in case I forgot to mention it today.
Also, never underestimate the will of the people.


GravatarA much smarter man than me once said something along the lines of if you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. However, if you actually make them think, they'll hate your guts. There's something to that, I think.

Already been booted out of two pulpits for doing the latter instead of the former.


GravatarWould they have gotten away with it today?

Yes. And they'd have an easier time getting away with it today because the media and justice apparatus is even more corrupted than it was in 1986.

Bush got his war, but did he *get away* with it?

He certainly has. He's still in office, isn't he? And I don't even see any investigations, let alone criminal indictments and convictions or an impeachment.


Gravatar A much smarter man than me once said something along the lines of if you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. However, if you actually make them think, they'll hate your guts. There's something to that, I think

Backslider - that is brilliant.


GravatarDoes anyone think that maybe, just maybe, JimJeff has a blue dress?


Gravataranother point to bring up when the trools start whining about "invasion of privacy" on GiGi, he was paying for the website that showed him in his birthday suit and advertising his services in the interest of getting more business.


GravatarOr one can look at it idealistically, and say it is about high ideals, unfortunately corrupted in the present, but to be returned in the future to the state it knew in the past.

As soon as it loses power.


GravatarTean/'slider:

Denial is one powerful mutha. My ex and I had a lot of shit to trip over, but the one thing that plain-as-shit freaked me out, was when she would just plain tear me a new one over something, leading me to say "Fuck it" and just split for the couch.

Then, just a few minutes later, she would ask me, quite innocently, "Why did you leave?"

And she was DEAD SERIOUS. She couldn't imagine what I was so hurt about. Happened more than once, and it still messes with my head (obviously).


GravatarAlready been booted out of two pulpits for doing the latter instead of the former.
Robert M. Jeffers


And i, from two major universities, for much the same offense...


GravatarTean = Tena. Dammit.


GravatarRMJ/WGG: Well, I guess that's what they mean by, "The truth will set you free"...


Gravataranother point to bring up when the trools start whining about "invasion of privacy" on GiGi, he was paying for the website that showed him in his birthday suit and advertising his services in the interest of getting more business.
Somebody gets a picture of me and posts it on their website, maybe I can claim ignorance of same.

Somebody gets a posed nude of me...that's no accident. Trying to argue Gannon was a dupe in this is just...pitiful


GravatarRobert - pretty close. It is about Gannon, but he goes off on the fact that if Gannon was lobbing softballs to Scotty, then surely the way the press treated the Clenis™ was even worse, because they kissed his ass.

What can you say about someone that disingenuous? The media crucified Clinton. But it's never enough. It will never be enough. They don't recognize the concept of enough. A nuclear blast that left only a gaping, smoking radioactive hole where Clinton used to stand wouldn't be a enough.


Gravatar A much smarter man than me once said something along the lines of if you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you. However, if you actually make them think, they'll hate your guts. There's something to that, I think


I heard an interview with a religious woman who was asked all sorts of challenging questions about how Bush wasn't actually for all the things that she believed in, and she answered that none of this mattered because Bush acted AS IF her views were important.

She wants the outer trappings of morality and within that each person to hide what they are actually doing. This makes her look like a winner and at the same time it gives her enough fodder to drool over. Or that's how I interpreted what she said. A kinder interpretation would be that she wants simple solutions even if she knows that they are not workable because the lack of any solutions is too frightening.


GravatarSorry if I tend to be extremely cynical about the prospect of the Republicans ever getting punished for their incredible dishonesty and thuggery. I saw the corruption of the media starting to happen in late 1981, and I guess the first sign of the corruption of the judiciary was when Ollie North's conviction was overturned by a judge who later turned out to be a key behind-the-scenes player in the smearing of Anita Hill.


GravatarHe certainly has.

But he hasn't gotten away with it. I see what you're saying, but he definitely hasn't gotten away with it.

He got elected?

Actually, no. Too many questions to admit that. And this whole Gannon thing has put a big crack in the iceberg.

Many of these people aren't even that smart. They're just well-financed.


Gravatar"But it's never enough. It will never be enough."

The Republican strategy, in a nutshell.


GravatarWGG--

I recall the National Lampoon version of the "Desiderata" included a line we obviously never learned (and never will): "Know what to kiss, and when."

Not so much proud of being bull-headed, as I am reconciled to it. My father's and grandfather's "gift" to me (along with the hair, which I passed on to my daughter. Whether she'll be as mule-headed remains to be seen....)


GravatarI love, love, love the way that the sun is setting a little bit later every day! We're supposed to get snow tomorrow, but I'm thinking it will be winter's last hurrah. Spring really is coming. My crocus and daffodils are poking out of the ground and helibore is looking perky, as well.


GravatarMr. Jeffers,
Maybe, but how do you restore these institutions to what they were originally supposed to be? And who's to say what they're "supposed to be"? And who, frankly, to say they were ever that truly "noble" in the first place?

Maybe we should allow evolution to take its course. There's a reason people don't worship Zeus anymore, or Horus or Odin or Leir or any of the number of once-mighty gods now lost in the wilderness of human thought. Spirituality is a wonderful and powerful thing that goes beyond our poor attempts at defining just what it is. It's imortal where man-made institutions are nothing but sandcastles on the beach of history.


GravatarEchidne:

THAT'S the piece I was thinking about. Thank you!


GravatarOr that's how I interpreted what she said. A kinder interpretation would be that she wants simple solutions even if she knows that they are not workable because the lack of any solutions is too frightening.

I think the truth is definitely at some ultimately undefinable point in between.


GravatarTean = Tena. Dammit.

It's the same 4 letters, Captain, and I've done it myself.

No worries.


GravatarThere is a strain of American religious institutionalism that thrives on presenting itself as under attack. In very much the same mode as ultra-nationalist. The tele-vangelists especially are prone to goading their watchers into giving more and more to 'ward off the certain destruction of this very important ministry by the forces of Satan and his minions' or some such. This winds up going all the way back to the clever chimp who figured out that if he screams 'leapord' the whole tribe will jump.


GravatarSorry if I tend to be extremely cynical about the prospect of the Republicans ever getting punished for their incredible dishonesty and thuggery.

Cynical's okay, as long as you're not giving up.

But what goes around comes around.

Just sayin'.


GravatarFresh linen.


GravatarIt's imortal where man-made institutions are nothing but sandcastles on the beach of history.

Yup, but back to the paradox, Mr. Backslider, sir: even the spiritual needs a vessel.

The sword wears out its sheath, the soul wears out its breast; but both need those carriers.

That's Plato, straight up....


Gravatarnew thread above.


GravatarI have wild turkeys that come to my back yard daily - you know it's spring when the male's heads turn a vivid red, white and blue and they puff up (like the pictures on the serving platters). Lots of gobbling, butt pecking and scrabbling. Soon the fights will start, and the males twist their necks around each other and waltz across the yard. Females just enjoy the show and eat the crack corn.


Gravatar I saw the corruption of the media starting to happen in late 1981, and I guess the first sign of the corruption of the judiciary was when Ollie North's conviction was overturned by a judge who later turned out to be a key behind-the-scenes player in the smearing of Anita Hill.

monchie b. monchum

What happened in late 1981? Just curious.


GravatarTo me, the most disturbing thing is how the right (paints with broad brush) seems to conflate sports with governing.

They call Dems "losers", and screech about how "winning is everything".

That is so foreign to me, and to a lot of us over here. It's destructive to a nation, makes no sense, unless one's goal is to have totalitarianism.

So, that's their goal. I know this is not new news, but I still sit and scratch my head about it.


GravatarCatalexis: I have a weird comment on your last...see new thread.


GravatarThere's a reason people don't worship Zeus anymore, or Horus or Odin or Leir or any of the number of once-mighty gods now lost in the wilderness of human thought.

Um, actually, people still do. They've become less popular than they once were because the places where they were worshipped were conquered by people with other religions, in general. But people do still worship them. Trust me.


GravatarTo me, the most disturbing thing is how the right (paints with broad brush) seems to conflate sports with governing.


Yes, that's it exactly. See Alterman's concept of "working the refs" on how they treat the media to get "favorable calls"


GravatarHappened to catch Ann Coulter on c span last night and a caller asked her to define Liberal/Conservative. Her answer is conservatives believe in God and Liberals think they are God. Uh... yeah. Funnier was a big whole around the world blabber as to how she got to where she is. I think this is evolution at its best cos it explains why so many people would rather bleat at the moon than to actually think for themselves.


GravatarBackslider - that is brilliant.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 5:37 pm | #


Wished I could say I was the dude that thought it first, but I definately think there's something to that. I've basically lost patience with people who willfully don't want to think. I used to work with a rather buxom young lass who apparently had an inkling to see if all my hair was red, if you know what I mean and I think you do. However, everytime I'd go off on one of my distressingly regular rants about The State Of Things to whichever coworkers were listening, she'd say something "Oh, I don't want to talk about that" and start babbling about, of all things, television shows. I finally blew my top and said, "Well, then, piss off. The grown-ups are trying to have a discussion." And that was the end of that, as I'm sure you can imagine.

And she was DEAD SERIOUS. She couldn't imagine what I was so hurt about. Happened more than once, and it still messes with my head (obviously).
Captain Gota | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 5:38 pm | #


And people wonder why I don't put much time and effort into the whole "dating" thing. Been there and bought the fuckin' t-shirt, dude.

Hecate,
People like being told what they think is valid. Doesn't matter if the people doing the telling actually thinks that or not. That, I think, is the key to the Little King's success with the fundie crowd. They're all pissed because homosexuals aren't swinging from lamp posts, yet they never stop to consider that maybe they got took for a ride.

Course, given how the DNC treats issues important to progressives, minorities and women, I doubt we have much to laugh about, frankly. It's all gonna implode on itself, sooner or later, I think, and something decent will arise from it. Hopefully.


GravatarI gotta say folks: this group of regulars is one of the most intellectual and intellectually interesting (thereby challenging) I have known. And droll to boot.

I admit that I had to ask my wife about Robert Benchley (I of course immediately thought of Peter), even though I live down the street from the Algonquin Hotel.

I do have a favor to ask, however.

I've got the its/it's thing down, I know the difference between lie and lay (my mother, who was my teacher for two years made sure of that), and in my day, people were innocent until PROVED guilty (although I realize that rule has been changed), but someone has to come up with a mnemonic or some device to help this 50-year-old with this discreet/discrete business.

Thanks.


GravatarThat's Plato, straight up....
Robert M. Jeffers | Email | Homepage | 02.19.05 - 5:47 pm | #


Well, then, to me the obvious question is how can humanity be that sheath and not fuck things up like we have since, oh, the beginning of history. Or does it just have to keep changing, new institutions forming and eventually being corrupted by power and greed? Is that all that there is?

Hecate,
True, true. But none of those religions hold the same sway over the general populace like they once did. If anything, I'd say pagan religions have a better chance of being "more pure spirituality" than any of the world's major players. Folks who worship Thor do it because they dig the God of Thunder - and hey, who wouldn't? - than using religion as a socialization tool.


GravatarHe got elected?

Actually, no. Too many questions to admit that. And this whole Gannon thing has put a big crack in the iceberg.

Many of these people aren't even that smart. They're just well-financed.

Actually, if you scroll back up, you'll see that I didn't say that he was elected -- I said he was still in office. So he either a) got re-elected legitimately despite his record of incredible dishonesty and incompetence, or b) he stole the election and got away with it.

As much as I've been happy to see the Gannon story break, I think it's very premature to say it's put a big crack in their iceberg. At best, it's broken a tiny icicle off the iceberg. Now, if it does eventually lead to full exposure, including lots of media coverage of WH dirty tricks, especially in Plamegate and Rathergate, or to a much fuller picture of the dishonesty of their propaganda operation, I'll be more than willing to admit I was wrong. In fact, I'd be thrilled to admit I was wrong.

I will agree that they're not as smart as some people around here argue. But being well-financed will almost always trump being smart.


GravatarEchidne - Damn, what great insight - seriously. I think you just explained that mindset to me; nothing else I've read about it has ever been able to do that adequately.

I think I get it - the religious conmen allow their flocks, or in Bush's case his supporters, to avoid feeling guilty about pretty much anything they do. They bring them into the fiction they've constructed about religion - that Jesus actually wants you to be rich, for instance; or that as long as you aren't gay, lesbian, getting or performing abortions, and keep sending money to the preacher/party, then you are on the fast track to heaven no matter what else you do.


GravatarBackslider,

Word. I love the t-shirt that says, in runes, "I'll keep an eye out for you. Odin"


GravatarLemme try that again with the html tags done correctly:

He got elected?

Actually, no. Too many questions to admit that. And this whole Gannon thing has put a big crack in the iceberg.

Many of these people aren't even that smart. They're just well-financed.


Actually, if you scroll back up, you'll see that I didn't say that he was elected -- I said he was still in office. So he either a) got re-elected legitimately despite his record of incredible dishonesty and incompetence, or b) he stole the election and got away with it.

As much as I've been happy to see the Gannon story break, I think it's very premature to say it's put a big crack in their iceberg. At best, it's broken a tiny icicle off the iceberg. Now, if it does eventually lead to full exposure, including lots of media coverage of WH dirty tricks, especially in Plamegate and Rathergate, or to a much fuller picture of the dishonesty of their propaganda operation, I'll be more than willing to admit I was wrong. In fact, I'd be thrilled to admit I was wrong.

I will agree that they're not as smart as some people around here argue. But being well-financed will almost always trump being smart.


Gravatarooh oooh! dms! here's how I remember! to be discreet I cross the steet. usually on concrete that is discrete. But..that's just me.


GravatarNAACP: Social Security Plan Hurts Blacks

NEW YORK (AP) - Denouncing President Bush's plan for Social Security reform as one that would disproportionately hurt blacks, NAACP leaders asked to meet with the president to discuss the issue, the NAACP chairman announced Saturday.


Good luck!!!


GravatarHecate - Um, actually, people still do. They've become less popular than they once were because the places where they were worshipped were conquered by people with other religions, in general. But people do still worship them. Trust me.

Of course they do - those gods and goddesses are still with us, are they not?
They would be forgotten if they weren't still worshipped.

Ever read Neil Gaiman's novel, American Gods? He has a profound understanding of the relationship between worshipper and the object of worship, plus he writes beautifully and he's gorgeous. He's exactly my type - just exactly. Alas.


GravatarHecate,
Odin gave an eye for wisdom. Jesus died for our sins. So did Mithras and Krishna. Horus avenged his father.

What does modern religion do now that it's in power? Make life fucking miserable for everyone else. Figure that out.


Gravatarbut someone has to come up with a mnemonic or some device to help this 50-year-old with this discreet/discrete business.

dms - don't look at me. I was an English major, but in my dotage, homonyms have begun to be my particular bete noir.


Gravatar not fuck things up like we have since, oh, the beginning of history...

A really good question, that...since history begins only about 6500-7000 years ago, and 'we' have indeed fucked things up during that period.

But do not forget humanity extends, evolutionalrily unchanged, back at least 300,000 years...And things were never this fucked up...or we'd have history to show us. So there's about 290,000 years during which humanity didn't actually fuck things up...all of it BEFORE history even began...

makes ya wonder, don't it?

Blame hydraulic agriculture and the theocratic bureacuracy that developed to 'administer' it for 'history.'

So it begins to look like 'humanity' is not the culprit, so much as the culture which arose with hydraulic agriculture and bureaucratic theocracy.


GravatarCynical's okay, as long as you're not giving up.

No, if I were to give up, I'd have to emigrate to Canada or New Zealand or somewhere else where sanity seems to prevail.

"Never give up, never surrender" -- Captain Taggart in "Galaxy Quest"


GravatarFood Channel update.

Rachael Ray's engaged.

In case you're interested.


GravatarDiscrete/discreet.


GravatarNo, I believe in THIS IS AWESOME


GravatarMy Saner Friends

My saner friends have begun to notice when I am starting down a certain path, and move away.

That path often begins with someone saying 'you're not giving up?!'

Standing up to power eventually means, like that guy facing a column of tanks in Tiananmen Square, standing up to their guns.

I really wonder how many folks have drawn a cognitive line which admits of resistance rught up to the point just before the powerful draw their guns, unsheath the bayonets, take the glove off the iron fist, launch the first bomber or fighter sortie.

It can't happen here? At what point do you pass the limit? Does anyone in this country have that kind of courage to stand, absolutely alone, against the mass-murderous, deadly power of the state?

Does anyone remember what happened to the man in front of the tanks in Tiananmen?
iirc, a few moments later, he was machine-gunned... i do not recall exactly...

on the other hand, would you, in the tank, open fire? Mebbe a draft army might resist bad orders. But volunteers? Are you sure?

now's when my friends start to wander away...


GravatarHi everybody (who's still here) -- Vespers, mediatation, serving supper -- eating some -- back to the computer--

Damn you Eli for making my struggle to suppress giggles all through church because of Clouseau's "mink" -- if only Carlos Glidden hadn't put the "i" & "o" next to each other on the qwerty keyboard it wouldn't have happened (BTW -- Glidden is my family name & I have never forgiven Carlos for selling his patent to Remington)

WGG -- I missed you Christ in the Desert post, alas -- you can email me with the details -- you kin to Aelred Wall?

The nuns only moved to the area within the past few years -- the first batch just made their solemn professions on Candlemass -- they seem a pretty sound bunch

RMJ -- you da man -- great line from Backslider as well -- the former priest in my home town parish said that the people who were leaving the parish (which was growing under his leadership -- parltly because of his reachign out the the LBGT community) were leaving because he refused to tell them what to think & wanted them to learn to think for themselves

I prefer to think of the Episcopal Church as "Catholicism for grownups" (our clergy get in trouble for having sex with grown men instead of little boys)


GravatarI don't know if it's been covered already but....

"In Secretly Taped Conversations, Glimpses of the Future President"
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Click homepage for link...

WASHINGTON, Feb. 19 - As George W. Bush was first moving onto the national political stage, he often turned for advice to an old friend who secretly taped some of their private conversations, creating a rare record of the future president as a politician and a personality. In the last several weeks, that friend, Doug Wead, an author and former aide to Mr. Bush's father, disclosed the tapes' existence to a reporter and played about a dozen of them. Variously earnest, confident or prickly in those conversations, Mr. Bush weighs the political risks and benefits of his religious faith, discusses campaign strategy and comments on rivals...."


There's more......


MYOB'
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Gravatarsteve simels: Jeffraham:
I hope they played "Bittersweet" before
you nodded off.

I can't recall... I couldn't name ten Hoodoo Gurus tunes at the time,
even though I liked 'em plenty.

preznit giv me turkee: if you still can remember to do it after a night
of too much drinking, a coupla' Vitamin B-12 and a couple glasses of water before
you get to bed works wonders

Yeah, I try to do that... fortunately, I don't drink quite that much alcohol all
that often, these days. I'm gettin' too old for that shit.

Vicki: I know this may sound odd, given the above statement, but I like
the way you think on this issue. You sound sweet. Stay that way.

It's a curse, I tell you (and actually, I'm somewhat salty). It's not even that
I have anything against maintenance sex, per se, -- but please, Ba'al,
send me a woman who's got more than NASCAR and V8 Mustangs in her freekin' head!
Work with me! Let's try to make it at least a potential relationship,
sheesh. Last night, I felt like Fee Waybill... "Talk To Ya Later... don't
wanna hear it again tonight..."

Well, I just wanted to wrap up, an' catch up -- and give thanks to all who gave
the hangover advice. Stay frosty, and I'll catch yas in one fo the fresher threads.
.


GravatarOkay, no more Dreamweaver MX for trying to rip through comments.


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Gravataremail I just sent re:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/1...9brooks.html? th

and the excerpt:
"There's going to be another Ross Perot, and this time he's going to be younger. There's going to be a millionaire rising out of the country somewhere and he (or she) is going to lead a movement of people who are worried about federal deficits, who are offended by the horrendous burden seniors are placing on the young...."

Here's my extremely irritated reply:

"who are offended by the horrendous burden seniors are placing on the young "

Got to tell you, as a senior, I am *offended* that this fucking gov't, in its
shameless and criminal profligacy, wants to continue (of COURSE they do@!!!) to
set one generation upon another and to do any and every thing it can to avoid
taking responsibility for the fiscal mess we're in, and that W et al have
wrought majorly with their tax cuts for the privileged, both corporate and
individual. Any and everyone who looks dispassionately on this country's
priorities will easily see that the govt intends to fuck over both the young and
the old, and to suck whatever it can out of the middle.

As senior, I most certainly NOT have consciously placed ANY kind of *burden" on
the young.

FUCK this bullshit.

I have simply believed in a contract between me and my govt, a covenant, if you
will. These goddamned people have seen this coming, but they chose instead to
plunder the "trust fund" that had been set aside for SS and to not do what
needed to be done to keep SS in place.

And, now... they want to say that , by my existence, by my having trusted my
govt, that I am OF-FUCKING-FENDING the young by the *burden* I am placing on
them.....Oh, Goddamn, BITE ME.
Jesus in a prom dress.

May I now be allowed to sodomize the Bush administration with whatever I have
at hand? A vegetable peeler, perhaps? A baseball bat? Cheese grater???

And, yeah, that's how I REALLY feel.


GravatarDoh!....'twisted logic to him.' should be 'twisted logic to defend him.'
Hoyt C. | Pretzel logic for the prestzeldent!


GravatarBush blew the surplus, not seniors.

The greatest generation was poised to tretire in peace, somewhat prsoperous, with CLinton.


The surplus took care of Social Security, and promised a medicare overhaul.

Minus medical expense most seniors could do well on the remainder with social secuirty.


Here comes Bush- deregulate utilities, madicare scam artist, social insolvency maven.

Lucky Whitman or Twain is no longer with us to codify his failures into folklore...


GravatarWhat will the trolls say when it's discovered that JeffyJims secret friend in the WH is none other that the Chimpster. Will they reject the Chimp or will they once again use some kind of twisted logic to him.



Easy - 9/11, The West Coast version.

Hell, it worked when they did it the first time!


Gravatar""who are offended by the horrendous burden seniors are placing on the young "


Do these obnoxious little shits really believe that they are never going to age?

That they are never going to be "seniors"?

In other countries, older people are respected, but not in disgusting MURKA!


GravatarI've got the its/it's thing down, I know the difference between lie and lay (my mother, who was my teacher for two years made sure of that), and in my day, people were innocent until PROVED guilty (although I realize that rule has been changed), but someone has to come up with a mnemonic or some device to help this 50-year-old with this discreet/discrete business.

Thanks.
dms


What drives me nuts:

(a) "loose" and "looser" for "lose" and "loser"

(b) "loan" used as a verb. The word is "lend."


GravatarFirst- ha ha ha it is open thread, right.


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