HULK SMASH

GravatarHello, moonbats.


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GravatarNot rocking on, either, Atrios.

I'm tired.


GravatarSorry, TKK


GravatarDefiantly not rocking:
March 23 (Bloomberg) -- A mortar assault on Baghdad's
heavily fortified Green Zone, followed by a series of attacks
across Iraq left at least 54 people dead today, Agence France-
Presse reported.


Gravatar"So?"


Gravatar60 Minutes airing some Indiana Jones stuff which indicates just how fucked up archeology can be.


GravatarOut out damned spot


GravatarMarch 23 (Bloomberg) -- A mortar assault on Baghdad's
heavily fortified Green Zone, followed by a series of attacks
across Iraq left at least 54 people dead today, Agence France-
Presse reported.


The surge continues to work its magic!


Gravataras you say, it don't wash out


GravatarIt's okay, the caskets can't be photographed. And there aren't any journalists left who give a shit about the reporting the war. The profits from the jingoistic war coverage have been made.


GravatarIt's okay, the caskets can't be photographed. And there aren't any journalists left who give a shit about the reporting the war. The profits from the jingoistic war coverage have been made.

Journamalists like the worthless whore Punkinhaid are growing fat on Rovian cocktail weenies.


GravatarEnjoy!


Gravatarstop the fucking war. now.

btw, did Carney (D-PA) ever garner an antiwar primary challenger?


GravatarI firmly subscribe to the Starr Doctrine.

Edwin, that is-- although I'm pretty sure Ringo concurs:

WAR! What is it good for?
Ab-so-lute-ly NOTHING!


GravatarThanks for the suggestions.

Tomorrow we'll do music to exercise to.

Now: bed.


GravatarWho'd have thought Iraq to have had so much oil in it?


GravatarWe've got My Cousin Vinny on now. They just got the grits.


Gravatarman, watching that John Adams on HBO sure makes me depressed


GravatarWho'd have thought Iraq to have had so much oil in it?

your fellow Republicans.


GravatarNot worth it.
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GravatarWho'd have thought Iraq to have had so much oil in it?

"that's not oil that blood"

/Bruce Springsteen


Gravatar man, watching that John Adams on HBO sure makes me depressed

It's good news for Ben Franklin!


Gravataroh shit, bruce doesn't sing like that--i left off an apostrophe s. simels regrets...


GravatarHey, y'all.

I'm very troubled. My mother said tonight basically that this jerk she's having to deal with in a legal matter is a jerk because he's Jewish. I nearly started a fight.


GravatarWho'd have thought Iraq to have had so much oil in it?



Yet who would have thought the old man
to have had so much blood in him.


GravatarWhat need we fear who knows it, when none can call
our power to account?


GravatarIt's good news for Ben Franklin!
The Kenosha Kid

i mean, a Congress that talks about IDEAS and stuff? And look what it's end up being! Very depressing.


GravatarI come from a long line of right-wing fucktards.


Gravatar"liberal hawk" = accessory to murder


Gravatar4,000 soldiers, a million Iraqis, sure it seems like a lot, but it may be nothing compared to the bloodbath that boosh/cheney will subject us to before they leave the white house.


GravatarWhat need we fear who knows it, when none can call
our power to account?


Hu Jintao is laughing at you, and the incompetents you put into power. the Chinese Communist Party thanks useful idiots like Allen Butler. without them the CCP would be less than all they can be.


Gravatar4,000 soldiers, a million Iraqis, sure it seems like a lot, but it may be nothing compared to the bloodbath that boosh/cheney will subject us to before they leave the white house.

Oh, for fuck's sake...


GravatarHere's the smell of the blood still: all the
perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little
hand. Oh, oh, oh!


Gravatarman, watching that John Adams on HBO sure makes me depressed

That's why I stopped watching The West Wing.

Fiction was so much preferable to the cretinous sack of shit we actually have in the Oval Office.


GravatarGive me your hand: what's done cannot be undone: to bed, to
bed, to bed.


GravatarFrom a thread earlier:

Developers in Miami and Fort Lauderdale, Fla., are readying nearly 10,000 total new units in a market already struggling with canyons of unsold condos.

I'm about 30 miles north of Fort Lauderdale, and there's a huge condo community going up practically across the street from me. I don't know how many units, but if it's less than 1,000 I'd be surprised.


Gravatar i mean, a Congress that talks about IDEAS and stuff? And look what it's end up being! Very depressing.

There's a line in one episode where John Adams is whining that there are no men of the caliber of Aristotle or Demosthenes - in a room with Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin etc.


GravatarTo the Liberal Hawks --
Can't get the stink off
He's been hanging round for days
Comes like a comet
Suckered you but not your friends
One day he'll get to you
And teach you how to be a holy cow
You do it to yourself, you do
and that's what really hurts
You do it to yourself, just you
you and no-one else
You do it to yourself
You do it to yourself
Don't get my sympathy
Hanging out the 15th floor
changed the locks three times
He still comes reeling through the door
and they'll get to you
And teach you how to get to purest hell


GravatarAtrios, all you gave us to click on the link is a comma. It's clickable but only if you're very careful.


GravatarAdams had some serious issues with foreign diplomacy, at least during the Revolution.


Gravatar1,000 units are coming online in G-ville in the next 6 months. the Condo market is gonna turn to shit, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of greedy developers.


GravatarI'm out.

Goodnight.


GravatarThere's a line in one episode where John Adams is whining that there are no men of the caliber of Aristotle or Demosthenes - in a room with Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin etc.

Familiarity breeds contempt, it seems.


GravatarCNN reporting just now that four more soldiers have died, bringing the death toll to exactly 4,000.


GravatarAtrios, all you gave us to click on the link is a comma. It's clickable but only if you're very careful.
TheOtherWA


That's the point.


GravatarCNN reporting just now that four more soldiers have died, bringing the death toll to exactly 4,000.
Bob


Again, that's the point.


GravatarGive me your hand: what's done cannot be undone: to bed, to
bed, to bed.


Re-education Camps for Texas Republicans would be a good start.


GravatarMcCain 08 - Four More Thousands!


GravatarThere's a line in one episode where John Adams is whining that there are no men of the caliber of Aristotle or Demosthenes - in a room with Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin etc.

Aside from Franklin, they were all nobodies at the time. And if they had lost they would be a minor footnote in the history books.


Gravatarin a room with Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin etc.
The Kenosha Kid

if they had known a free republic would lead to George W Bush 224 years later, i think they'd stayed british.


Gravatar"that's not oil that blood"

/Bruce Springsteen
her whiskeyness |

Great line.


GravatarCNN reporting just now that four more soldiers have died, bringing the death toll to exactly 4,000.

So?


GravatarMcCain 08 - Four More Thousands!
The Kenosha Kid


More like eighty more thousands. After all, if you extrapolate over 100 years ...

Ugh, that's horrible to even contemplate.


GravatarI think the minimalist comma-link is elegant.

At first, I didn't see it at all, so I agree it's a challenge. But it's apropos, no?


GravatarHow did LH Paul Berman not get wanker of the day?

But that was then. In today’s Middle East, the various radical Islamists, basking in their success, paint their liberal rivals and opponents as traitors to Muslim civilization, stooges of crusader or Zionist aggression. And, weirdly enough, all too many intellectuals in the Western countries have lately assented to those preposterous accusations, in a sanitized version suitable for Western consumption.

Even in the Western countries, quite a few Muslim liberals, the outspoken ones, live today under a threat of assassination, not to mention a reality of character assassination. Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Somali-Dutch legislator and writer, is merely an exceptionally valiant example. But instead of enjoying the unstinting support of their non-Muslim colleagues, the Muslim liberals find themselves routinely berated in the highbrow magazines and the universities as deracinated nonentities, alienated from the Muslim world. Or they find themselves pilloried as stooges of the neoconservative conspiracy — quite as if any writer from a Muslim background who fails to adhere to at least a few anti-imperialist or anti-Zionist tenets of the Islamist doctrine must be incapable of thinking his or her own thoughts.

A dismaying development. One more sign of the power of the extremist ideologies — one more surprising turn of events, on top of all the other dreadful and gut-wrenching surprises.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/2...n/ 23berman.html


GravatarThe comma is there for a reason

BLITZER: Let’s move on and talk a little bit about Iraq. Because this is a huge, huge issue, as you know, for the American public, a lot of concern that perhaps they are on the verge of a civil war, if not already a civil war…. We see these horrible bodies showing up, tortured, mutilation. The Shia and the Sunni, the Iranians apparently having a negative role. Of course, al Qaeda in Iraq is still operating.

BUSH: Yes, you see — you see it on TV, and that’s the power of an enemy that is willing to kill innocent people. But there’s also an unbelievable will and resiliency by the Iraqi people…. Admittedly, it seems like a decade ago. I like to tell people when the final history is written on Iraq, it will look like just a comma because there is — my point is, there’s a strong will for democracy. (emphasis added)


http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport...hives/ 8551.html


GravatarThis is just a comma, a footnote in history.

Dubya, on the other hand, is a stain on history, a large smear of excrement.


GravatarI hate being forced to go to the Mall of America to buy something. I really hate going there on frigging Easter and finding everything (except the kid-filled amusement park) closed.


GravatarOh, now I get the comma. Thanks, P. O'Neill and very clever, Atrios.


GravatarIs the Iraq War really a comma?

I've always thought it bore closer resemblance to a semicolon.


GravatarDid you get your fill of Easter snark?


GravatarCat's Eye Hubble Remix

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod...d/ ap080322.html


GravatarYo Atrios?
Weren't there a few victims from the Gulf War? And where's your righteous indignation at this?

By the way, I would reach out to the first George Bush. You know, one of the things that I think George H.W.
Bush doesn't get enough credit for was his foreign policy team and the way that he helped negotiate the end of the Cold War and prosecuted the Gulf War. That cost us 20 billion dollars. That's all it cost. It was extremely successful. I think there were a lot of very wise people...
Barack Obama, Larry King Live.


And who exactly are those "very wise people" Senator Obama?


GravatarWho'd have thought Iraq to have had so much oil in it?

At #2 in reserves behind the Saudis, I'd say pretty much everybody...


Gravatarok, I'm a bit ignorant of the law as it applies to preznits and stuff, but is it possible, if none of the bushco mafia are indicted prior to his leaving office, that they cannot be pardoned, and that the following Dem congress, or DOJ prosecutor, can then begin investigations in earnest and put the whole bunch in jail?

Just curious. Not saying the Dems would actually investigate anything, even with a supermajority in both House and Senate. (although its nice to dream).


GravatarDid you get your fill of Easter snark?

Onto the next commercialized piece of shit holiday (Mothers' Day?).


Gravatarbad day


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It used to be that the word "conspiracy" was in and of itself an accusation of lunacy launched with  raised eyebrows. But then again as every educated person knows there literally is an actual real-life conspiracy of people who refer to themselves as neo-conservatives, who literally infiltrate governments, intrigue against colleagues and foment wars in real life.
themselves pilloried as stooges of the neoconservative conspiracy


GravatarA golf coach. LOLZ.

Very nice, sinfonian.


GravatarThanks, P O'Neill. I can't believe I didn't get that.


Gravatar"I must say, I'm a little envious,If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed."
- Comma in Chief, March 13, 2008


Gravatarif none of the bushco mafia are indicted prior to his leaving office, that they cannot be pardoned, and that the following Dem congress, or DOJ prosecutor, can then begin investigations in earnest and put the whole bunch in jail?

Sure, in theory. Crimes are crimes. Me, I'm pushing for impeachment after they leave office.


Gravatarthemselves pilloried as stooges of the neoconservative conspiracy--other commenter

It used to be that the word "conspiracy" was in and of itself an
accusation of lunacy launched with  raised eyebrows. But then again as
every educated person knows there literally is an actual real-life
conspiracy of people who refer to themselves as neo-conservatives, who
literally infiltrate governments, intrigue against colleagues and
foment wars in real life.

FUCK YOU HALOSCAN.



GravatarOT: Lizzy Bum on how Maverick was nearly a Dem -- twice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/2...s/ 24mccain.html


GravatarThis is just a comma, a footnote in history.

An assterisk...


Gravatarbad day
Ham




Nice. That took me a moment.


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ok, I'm a bit ignorant of the law as it applies to preznits and stuff, but is it possible, if none of the bushco mafia are indicted prior to his leaving office, that they cannot be pardoned,


Ford pardoned Nixon before he was indicted of anything.

I suspect that Bush will do a mass pardoning of folks in a similar manner, perhaps even pardoning himself.


GravatarOT: Lizzy Bum on how Maverick was nearly a Dem -- twice.

I would have thrown him back.


GravatarAnd who exactly are those "very wise people" Senator Obama?

Again, as no fan of GHWB, I would prefer his administration over his son's.

Second, there were some sane voices in GHWB's White House who stopped insane hawks like Cheney from marching into Baghdad. Some of those voices have spoken out against the war.

Third, I'd have more righteous indignation against Albright for her comment about the Iraqi young being worth it.

Fourth, you tried this last thread, adding in the Reagan comment.


GravatarAnd when did this horrific war really start Atrios?


By the way, I would reach out to the first George Bush. You know, one of the things that I think George H.W.
Bush doesn't get enough credit for was his foreign policy team and the way that he helped negotiate the end of the Cold War and prosecuted the Gulf War.


GravatarRick 'Undead' Sanchez said on CNN earlier that he personally thought black lib theology or something was leftist or communist, while 'some people' thought it was something else.

I credit him for not saying commonist.
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Gravataris it possible, if none of the bushco mafia are indicted prior to his leaving office, that they cannot be pardoned, and that the following Dem congress, or DOJ prosecutor, can then begin investigations in earnest and put the whole bunch in jail?

The scenario will work like this.
Just before leaving office, Bush will pardon everybody.
Then he'll resign.
Then Cheney will become President and pardon Bush.
nya nyah nyah...


GravatarRepost, from the thread where we were talking jazz...

Holy fuck, Acker Bilk is still playing!


GravatarI don't think the preznit can pardon himself, can he?


GravatarBy the way, I would reach out to the first George Bush. You know, one of the things that I think George H.W.
Bush doesn't get enough credit for was his foreign policy team and the way that he helped negotiate the end of the Cold War and prosecuted the Gulf War.


Still, he put his Yale dick in Babs and spitted out some junk DNA.


Gravatar"I must say, I'm a little envious,If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed."
- Comma in Chief, March 13, 2008 focus, now cultless


okay. not that i haven't seen that before, but in this context, all the death and suffering, it's more than i can take.

i know this whole politics thing is a song and dance that i just don't get, that there's strategy and dry powder and all that, but if we don't impeach them, if we can't even get it on the table, who are we?

i must sign off before i get banned for suggesting what i would like him to fantastically experience.


GravatarFourth, you tried this last thread, adding in the Reagan comment.
Anon


And it's even more appropos to this thread. You can't seriously deny that Reagan/Bush was the start of this 30 phase of American Empire which has resulted in this charnal house called Iraq. Do I need to go through it all.
US bases in Saudi Arabia.
Pro-Israeli policies, on and on?

And Obama is going out of his way to commend these war criminals, not once, but TWICE now?

Is that some sort of tactical positioning?


GravatarSanchez has to be taken off the air. Again.

Or moved to the cable public service channel.
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Gravataras always, Elias' Concern is duly noted.


GravatarAnd who are these young people we are sending to fight? This article is interesting - if you have the time to read.

Among the first I approached was Jason Thomas Adams, a slender young man dressed in a cook's white uniform. A twenty-five-year-old private from Brooklyn, Adams had joined the Army only nine months earlier. He had never really expected to, he told me—he'd wanted to be a police officer. After graduating from high school, he had enrolled in the John Jay School of Criminal Justice. To help pay the tuition, he worked at two jobs—Paragon Sports and a restaurant on Second Avenue—but quickly went into debt.

Meanwhile, he got married, his wife got pregnant, and he had no health care. From a brother in the military, he had learned of the Army's many benefits, and, visiting a recruiter, he heard about Tricare, the military's generous health plan. He also learned that the Army would repay his education loans. And so he signed up. When I asked about September 11 and service to the country, he said flatly that it had had nothing to do with his decision.


http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21201

Just kids whose trust funds didn't provide enough for them I guess.


Gravatar
I don't think the preznit can pardon himself, can he?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Par...e_United_States

In the United States, the pardon power for Federal crimes is granted to the President by the United States Constitution, Article II, Section 2, which states that the President:

shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

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If he hasn't been impeached, he can pardon himself.


GravatarNow, about those hugs and flowers....any idea when we will get them????


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Gravatarinstapundit:
"Even though Obama is not and never was an African-American, he has always been black enough to benefit from the superannuated slave culture that forgives every corruption and hypocrisy in those who have any claim on being black."


now thats ugly.


GravatarI'm getting in 2 full games of Spider solitaire between bouts of Haloscan. This is not as entertaining as some other things I can think of. If this message in a bottle ever reaches anyone...G'nite...


Gravataras always, Elias' Concern is duly noted.
mrs. ibrahim al-jafaari


A virtual chorus of one.


GravatarAnd when did this horrific war really start Atrios?

When SCOTUS accomplished the coup.

Thanks liberal hawks. BTW, that spot doesn't wash out.

Indeed, Atrios, I just can't forget myself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p...h? v=pYATbsu2cP8


Gravatarthe Concern Troll is concerned about being called a Concern Troll.

I, too, am concerned that the Concern Troll is so very deeply concerned about the prospects for a Democratic victory in Novemebr.

it is concerning.


Gravatar"U.S. death toll in Iraq hits 4,000.
Four U.S. soldiers were killed in Baghdad today, putting the U.S. death toll at 4,000 since the invasion in 2003, reports MSNBC."

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03...iraq-hits-4000/

stupid halo scan...... i don't know if anything has been posted


GravatarSanchez has to be taken off the air. Again."

dirty, dirty sanchez.


GravatarJohn Prine and Iris DeMent - In Spite of Ourselves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F...h? v=F5axlwCBXC8

'Nuff said.


GravatarThe ratio of dead to wounded is about 15.
So. About 60,000 wounded. So far.


GravatarThis is downright Lieberman-esque.
Or, as Atrios might put it, the mind of a "liberal hawk.":

By the way, I would reach out to the first George Bush. You know, one of the things that I think George H.W.
Bush doesn't get enough credit for was his foreign policy team and the way that he helped negotiate the end of the Cold War and prosecuted the Gulf War.

Obama, Larry King Live.


Gravataroh, there's a *real* spot there.

thought it was a booger on my screen.


GravatarEvening batses.

Have we hated on any new minorities today?


Gravatarthru my entire life when ever i read or talked about war we always were talking about "casualties".

now its just dead.

what happened to the wounded?


GravatarHave we hated on any new minorities today?

Just Republicans.

(Spits on the ground)


GravatarChimpy can do one egg for each fatality at the egg roll tomorrow

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ 20080...x7GW.7PP_Gs0NUE


GravatarI am gonna try this but Haloscan has been acting weirder than usual. These are some Gore Vidal's words on the passing of William F Buckley. (worth reading)

Parenthetically, I should note that, back in 1968, ABC TV had asked me and Buckley to “debate” each other at the Democratic and Republican conventions. Although Buckley was often drunk and out of control, he was always a spontaneous liar on any subject that his dizzy brain might extrude. When we were in Chicago during the Republican convention, the Chicago police decided it would be fun to attack the young co-ed demonstrators in Grant Park, not far from our studio. It was one of the worst displays of police brutality I’ve ever seen, and so I said on air; he liked what the police had done; in no time, the whole country was as shocked as I, but not Buckley. On air he was hissing like a cobra against the young people in Grant Park because, he said, they were egging on the Viet Cong to kill American Marines. They were not, of course. Buckley was a world-class American liar on the far right who would tell any lie he thought he could get away with. Years of ass-kissing famous people in the press and elsewhere had given him, he felt, a sort of license to libelously slander those hated liberals who, from time to time, smoked him out as I did in Chicago, when I defended the young people in Grant Park by denying that they were Nazis and that the only “pro- or crypto-Nazi” I could think of was himself. He sued me and got nowhere. He sued Esquire, in which our words appeared. By then the coming right-wing surge was in view. And so Esquire cravenly agreed to settle with him for a few paragraphs worth of free advertising for his weird little magazine The National Review, hardly the great victory he claimed.

Now, to Newsweek’s obituary of this late dishonorable American in which my editor-friend assures me that his brain-dead son Christopher had a hand: “Buckley bridled at bullies.” And who was the bully in context? Myself. He was also an expert at changing indefensible contexts. Buckley maintained that I supported revolutionaries who favored murdering U.S. Marines. Yet all the talk of Nazis etc. was started by Buckley. There was no lie he would not tell to get back at those who defeated him in debate.

and these. . . The unique mess that our republic is in can be, in part, attributed to a corrupt press whose roots are in mendacious news (sic) magazines like Time and Newsweek, aided by tabloids that manufacture fictional stories about actual people. This mingling of opinion and fiction has undone a media never devoted to truth. Hence, the ease with which the Republican smear-machine goes into action when they realize that yet again the party’s permanent unpopularity with the American people will cause them defeat unless they smear individually those who question the junk that the media has put into so many heads.
http://www.commondreams.org/arch...008/03/21/7800/


Gravatar'Nuff said.

awesome.


GravatarHave we hated on any new minorities today?

Glenn Reynolds, lover of hate speech, seems to be getting a little angry at the blowback from his link to a sewer racist.


GravatarJust Republicans.

(Spits on the ground)
Mr French


Fortunately, they are starting to look like a shrinking minority.

Maybe they will be extinct soon.


GravatarMillions dead, on our dime. My hands don't feel so squeaky clean. We've got to save our country.


GravatarIs anyone watching this abomination on CNN?

They are doing everything they can to ignore the role of the media in the war, its run up, and the deception that was pulled over the eyes of the American people.


Gravatarawesome.

Is that great or what?

I've had the hugest crush on Iris for some years now.


Gravatarsheets. Or so they say.


GravatarMr. French, thanks. What a great clip.


Gravatar"Have we hated on any new minorities today?"

took a day off for easter. i'll get my hate on tomorrow.


Gravatarremember i was for the war before i was against it, the way bush used that against kerry, along with his vote for the aumf, to paint him as though he actually supported bush? i can say for myself that i really hated that and thought it was unfair, and still dont like to see all of our senators who voted yes attacked as bad democrats, as though they all supported the rape of iraq with the same enthusiasm as the administration.


Gravatarblaming "liberal hawks" for attacks on US marines

=

blaming liberals for attacks on US Marines


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