I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
frist-fuck bush
IOKIYAR?
califone! fuck bush!
Bush is a murderous thug,
and Toby smells of elderberries.
I'm disgusted alright.
"non-beneficial" means "insurance has run out and no political hay to be made so die you poor fuck."
Discuss?
We don't need no stinking discussion.
George Bush is the worst fucking president ever. And in fifty years everybody's going to know it.
For those interested in S653, the proposed bill mentioned by Reid and Frist today,
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/qu...y/z?c109:S.653:
Essentially, they've done a carve-out, giving the Federal District Court in Florida jurisdiction to hear the parents' case.
Now the Congress get back to serious bidness, like steroids and baseball and spring break and such like.
Seriously, though. It is OK in Texas for the hospital to withdraw life support, but it is not OK for the legal guardian to do so? What a fucked-up world we live in.
Excellent catch, Atrios --
hypocritical asshats --
Republicans only pretend to give a damn about people. Bush cares only for himself -- and by that I mean himself and not his wife, or children or anyonbe else (except perhaps mommy dearest).
Do you think he ever had sex with his mother?
I think we've been through the looking glass so many times over the last four years that stacking another example of hypocrisy onto the pile doesn't really help. At this point, we're all desensitized.
There you go with your fancy facts again.
Since that came from Bush, I'm guessing "nonbeneficial" would mean for the insurance companies. He sure as hell doesn't care about patients...
Oh, snap! What a great catch, A-man!
But that was 1999. Everything changed after 9/11®.
Answer: The Cognitive Dissonance that keeps Republicans in power.
Next question.
Ooh I wonder if this will make the talk shows tomorrow morning.
Cut Our Leader some slack. Have you considered the possibility that after he signed that bill, he sat down with Jesus and discussed the issue over pizza and near beer.
Footloose:
You are pure and naive aren't you....
hey if god wants her to live...she will start to eat on her own...isn't using artifical means against "Gods" will...
In 1999 then governor Bush signed a law which allowed hospitals to withdraw life support from patients, over the objections of the family, if they consider the treatment to be nonbeneficial.
9/11 Changed Everything©
Typical liberal! You carry your Bush-hatred so far that you'll dig up and post any fact that suggests he's some kind of despicable hypocrite with no moral center.
Well, I just think it's sad.
very funny frank
FLIP-FLOP!
If Terri Schiavo's husband seriously wanted to end her misery, he'd rat her out to the CIA so that they could beat her to death.
Actually, I don't watch talking heads as a rule. I do enjoy the play by play on this station though.
or change her name and move to a new state...
"F" is for "Flip-Flop!"
"F" is for "Fuck-up."
"F" is for "Fredo."
jmb --
This is the point I think is the most important. Are we really to believe, as religious people (if we are) that God demands constant intervention? That is, that humans must frustrate Her/His will because we have the technology? If so, isn't murder also Godly? This seems absolutely contrary to the Catholic teaching on the mantle of life (birth control, abortion, etc.).
Wher is RMJ when I need him?
Damn. Own3d.
Actually, I can't believe this is the same country I grew up in. I know, I know, 9/11 changed everything. But fuck that.
What I'm curious about is what level of repercussions from deaths in Iraq have the Republicans inoculated themselves against with their hideous exploitation of Terry Schaivo?
I figure she's worth about 500 U.S. soldiers, and at least 100,000 Iraqis.
"Mass murderers? Us? Look how hard we fought to keep a brain-dead woman on life support!"
Seriously, though. It is OK in Texas for the hospital to withdraw life support, but it is not OK for the legal guardian to do so? What a fucked-up world we live in.
Yes, this is true. There was a case recently of a woman who didn't want her infant son pulled off life support, but one of these cabals decided what was best.
Women: We're too stupid to decide if we can abort a child, and we're too stupid to decide if one deserves to live.
Thank you, white Xian male authorities, for your confidence in our reasoning ability. Thank you for being so kind and strong and telling us what it is we must do. Why, we'd just be all adrift without you.
/sarcasm off
If Terri Schiavo's husband seriously wanted to end her misery, he'd rat her out to the CIA so that they could beat her to death.
hahahahahahahaahaha!
(gasp for breath)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Sounds like a big fat fucking flip-flop to me.
If Terri Schiavo's husband seriously wanted to end her misery, he'd rat her out to the CIA so that they could beat her to death.
Gen. JC Christian, patriot | Email | Homepage | 03.19.05 - 8:38 pm | #
Who is this guy? He says the most hysterical stuff when he posts. 
Nothing wrong with letting hosptital administrators play God. Bush has been doing that for years.
Oh des, des, unless you are kidding, click on his homepage. Treat of the day every day.
why are all those good christians keeping terry from meeting jesus?
I'll try running this up the flag pole here. Maybe someone will get it.
Bush pushes through tort reform legislation to limit medical liability awards. So what would have happened to Schiavo's malpractice award under the new Republican legislation?
Isn't that dangling award one reason she's received such expensive treatment this long?
Anyone know the details?
Who is this guy? He says the most hysterical stuff when he posts.
There you go again trying to marginalize my important conservative message by calling it humor.
They will ship her to Syria to be tortured and then complain about Syria torturing people. Then they can move her to Gitmo and torture her. This is freedom.
The General has the most heterosexually pure blog on the internet
Click on his homepage.
I take that back. Elaine got it the first time
and now, with feeling:
FUCK BUSH
Actually (and this is something I have found weird) I haven't heard ANY comment from Nero himself about the insane control-freak necrophiliac behavior exhibited by his partei.
Gen JC has me crying. Funny.
Fuck corpses.
IGOR get me some corpses.
Yes, it doesn't matter if they wear toupees.
Oh Boy. Reaching again I'm afraid. "...if they consider the treatment to be nonbeneficial". I don't think a feeding tube for someone who can breath on their own and make eye contact with visitors would be considered "nonbeneficial". Do you? Think that law you're referring to might apply to a "brain dead" person on complete life support? I do.
The General is sort of a straight Jeff Gannon....with about 100 more IQ points....
and a lot of right wing fans who never get irony.
There you go again trying to marginalize my important conservative message by calling it humor.
It's called 'liberal speak' -- it's how we get through the 8 years of darkness.
FUCK! It'll be 8 years before we get rid of that @sshat! I better uncork the good stuff.
Nancy, the General is a CHRISTIAN unlike Jeff who never kisses.
and a lot of right wing fans who never get irony.
you're kidding, right?
So why aren't the Dems skewering Delay with the hypocrisy?
Reid: “We are happy to join our Republican friends in their effort to preserve life where there's hope, but we would like to remind the public that Ms. Schiavo would not be alive today had the Republican’s medical malpractice legislation been in effect when Ms. Schiavo suffered her injuries.”
This is network news sound bite stuff. Where are the Dem strategists?
Remember: tonight is official FLIP FLOP FLIP OUT night.
We are supposed to rob graves and take the skulls to Yale.
April 15th is Skull and Bones official night to worship devils and kiss skulls.
Find those bodies!
That was before September 11th.
But now he has been touched by the grace of god.
He is the lords holy vessel of justice.
He has seen the sin of his past life and said "SATAN! Get behind me!"
He pushs Condi off the bed and cries out "Back! I say! BACK! No more schlong for thee!!"
He has stood on the rubble of the Twin Towers, the crushed bodies of the innocent dead beneath it and watched how the mindless masses of idiots rushed to his side.
The man can do anything he wants. He can say up is down, then tomorrow say the opposite and guess what? The lousy ignorant mutha fuccas will flock to his side and say that even god can change his mind.
Got that?
MYOB'
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>you're kidding, right?
He was on a list of right wing blogs
Oh des, des, unless you are kidding, click on his homepage. Treat of the day every day.
I checked it out and just added it to my blogroll! What an awesome find!
He was on a list of right wing blogs
That is too funny! I love the General even more now (in a manly, heterosexual way of course).
Anyone know, is it true that NTodd has taken up making out with guys? Bummer. 
Think that law you're referring to might apply to a "brain dead" person on complete life support? I do.
freeIran
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free, NO, go to RawStory and click through on the story about the baby boy who was removed from life support. He was brain-fine. His lungs were too small. You can see a photo of him and his mom--the one who didn't have the means to keep him alive when the insurance people convinced the doctors it's not beneficial, and that they wouldn't be paying. Texas applied Bush's nice shiney law, and nearly everyone lived happily ever after.
You don't know the Genral?
GO AND SEE!
make eye contact with visitors
This is not a person whose mind is trapped in a non-functioning body. Her mind is gone. She cannot make eye contact. That is just a bodily function. I know her parents want to believe differently; but, the clear and convincing evidence is that she is gone.
This isn't about Terri Schiavo.
It's about the fucking politicians who want their base to re-elect them.
Period.
Fucking abysmal asshats. All of them.
The General is a genius, absolutely hilarious, and on many a dark day, the ONLY thing that keeps me out of the pit of despair.
Oh,
I forgot. Bush is a fucking hypocrite.
FUCK HIM SIDEWAYS WITH A FEEDING TUBE.
Snow ... The last pictures we've seen of this woman date from 2001. God knows what condition she's in now.
Do you think he ever had sex with his mother?
Immanentize | Email | Homepage | 03.19.05 - 8:28 pm | #
In his mind, definitely. And probably violently.
The last pictures we've seen of this woman date from 2001. God knows what condition she's in now.
Res -- somewhere today, I saw a lovely old photo of her, pre-collapse. She was very attractive, and obviously someone who took pains to look good.
She'd probably be horrified if she knew her parents have been circulating those pitiful pics and videos we've all seen.
Silleigh .. Yeah, I saw that photo, too. She was cute. They looked happy.
Think that law you're referring to might apply to a "brain dead" person on complete life support? I do.
freeIran
Yeah, it would have to. Because otherwise, Bush'd be wrong. And that's just impossible.
Res Ipsa Loquitor - I don't know when the MRI was taken but it was shocking. It indicated massive brain cell destruction. Much more than I anticipated. Brain cells don't come back.
I also don't understand the charges leveled at the husband in light of the video footage, however old it may be. The video indicates that she is well cared for. But it is just a body. Her mind is gone.
Snow ... Yes, I saw the MRI, too. She's gone, gone, gone. What the heck can her parents be thinking? They are getting up there in years and won't be around to care for her forever.
As for the charges at the husband, I think they fake-pro-life crowd would level those charges at anyone. I feel for that man, I really do. I wonder if there's a legal fund set up for him somewhere. I would send cash.
What will happen if there is an economic meltdown? How will they keep the rabble in line? I wonder if the neocons have given much thought to that eventuality, or did they only plan for success?
CBS News, March 17, 2005
It's two minutes and three seconds long.
The pics showing Terri's brain scan, compared to a scan of a healthy, living brain, start at 1:25.
At the 1:26 mark, the doc's finger is pointing to the healthy brain. The whitish-grey stuff is all healthy brain tissue; the occasional dark markings show cavities filled with spinal fluid.
Contrast that with the scan of Terri's brain. It's nearly all spinal fluid -- very little cerebral cortex, and what little remains is shriveled and dead.
I wish I could show that pic at 1:26 to everyone in America.
Jerry, you mean here in the U.S., don't you? You're not talking about, like Iraq, right? Maybe we should start studying SunZoo or somethin'.
Wishful, of course I mean here in the US. I just wonder, how do they think they can continue to sustain the kind of job loss we've seen, do away with social security and just about every other entitlement program, run $500 billion deficits, continue to pour billions down the drain in Iraq, not do anything about the health care crisis, and still have anything like a majority of people behind them?
And in fifty years everybody's going to know it. - let's hope it's still standing. I firmly believe George W doesn't give a rat's ass - "We'll all be dead."
but stem cells could, possibly, bring her back. in a decade or two. oh! the moral -hic- quandry.
-J.T.
And Bush is flying back to Washington to sign the momentarily expected bill to transfer the case to a Federal Court--on a plane probably loaded with photographers to capture every prayerful moment.
God, may I live to see the moment when the President will be someone who can rise above the level of dignity posessed by a rodeo clown.
Jerry: if there's a meltdown, to quote one of my homies:
"The revolution is coming my bitches!"
And Bush is flying back to Washington to sign the momentarily expected bill to transfer the case to a Federal Court
And for this one case, the federal district court gets to review the decision of a state trial court. Federalism turned upside down.
Jerry, I know you meant the U.S., and I totally agree with you that we are deteriorating fast. My obtuse reference to Iraq was that this administration feels about us have-nots the same as they feel about the Iraqis, and we are about to suffer the same fate. All the while, the red-staters are fools enough to think they are having academic and philsophical conversations about what the Iraqi citizens should and should not be doing in the face of overwhelming US force. They will know soon enough exactly what they would do in that situation.
Jerry, another thing--won't all those red state Bush voters be surprised at what side of the barrell they are on? Should we welcome them once they have their moment of enlightenment, realizing that they were being played for fools all along?
And for this one case, the federal district court gets to review the decision of a state trial court. Federalism turned upside down.
Well of course.
Like with everything else, the Republicans claim to support federalism, but they really don't. Whatever they say they support, odds are, it's a lie.
Jerry: if there's a meltdown, to quote one of my homies:
"The revolution is coming my bitches!"
Kinda like his flip flop on abortion.
Took him a while to learn the whole "let's jerk off the superstitions of the trailer park" menu.
Before that, he'd only smelled them. Not actually met them.
.
This need to be made "Story Number One"!!!
When there's money involved (as in fact it is in the Schiavo case, but it may be Michael's, not the hospice's), and the money's coming from the hospital, the Rethugs just don't give a damn about life.
Cut off their respirator, cut off their feeding, tell me what's the difference? And this in the case of people well enough to ask for some more treatment....
What a bunch of demagoguic azos those Republicans are. If I were inclined to puke, I would....
Cheers,
Lou Rawls- wkno.org
To the Shiavos!
Here's another article about the law. It states that the law was signed in 1999 and was the first of its kind.
http://www.dallasnews.com/
shared...baby.bc467.html
It is difficult for me to comprehend how any human being could be so consistently hypocritical about absolutely everything. Doing so would take an almost superhuman level of skill. It honestly makes my mind reel. Perhaps Bush truly isn't human.
[churchlady voice]
Could he be, ummmm, S A T A N !?!
[/churchlady voice]
Why Dems are losers!
I is Harry Reid.....
“I am pleased Senator Frist and I were able to pass the bill that protects the life of Terri Schiavo by allowing her parents to go to federal court. If the House Republicans refuse to pass our bipartisan bill, they bear responsibility for the consequences.”
Its none of his GD business. He has zero real facts. She is on Medicaid. If her parents want to take care of her, they can start by paying the bill.
State rights my ass. Their fine as long as they agree with the idiots in Washington; otherwise the answer is NO< NO< NO (medical pot, right to die, who won the election, etc.)
Repubs want to deregulate corporations and regulate people. They want to privatize the profits and socialize the risk. I am so sick of holy killer crooks and the stupid Dems who don't deserve to win.
"She was very attractive, and obviously someone who took pains to look good. "
Um, actually, that was the root of the whole problem. She took PAINS to "look good." Terri had an eating disorder which led to this condition she's in.
No one talks much about that.
While I think this can be used to point out the Repugs hypocrisy, this is one time where Bush did the right thing. I am an RN and can tell you there are plenty of times when the family refuses to accept reality about patients. But MDs and hospitals aren't going to use this except as a last resort, because they are afraid they will be sued unless the medical evidence is totally in their favor. Like the Sciavo Case.
We dont need no bill from Congefs. Why don't they just transfer Schiavo to TX and say she's not eligible for Medicaid?
Um, actually, that was the root of the whole problem. She took PAINS to "look good." Terri had an eating disorder which led to this condition she's in.
No one talks much about that.
de mortuis nisi bono.
Terri Schiavo is not on life support...there are millions of metally ill people in hositals around the country and the world...they are starving her...she has respirator...she has as much a right to live as me...furthermore if her parents wants to car for her let them ... laws and legialtion are not more important than life....
Here's a link to the blog of one of the co-authors of the bill in question, Thomas W Mayo of SMU:
http://
lawprofessors.typepad.com...upport_sto.html
He has a link to the bill in question.
Another irony, I believe it was PBS that reported that her medical care was being financed by a $1 million malpractice award. Things like that on the tort reform agenda?
What law? I can't find a reference to this law.
The Bush family embodies 'dysfunction' in all its aspects.
Bush signed the law or allowed it to become law by default?
Van, et al:
I don't know the details, and correct me (with evidence) if I'm wrong. but wasn't the Texas law contingent mostly on whether the patient's care-givers could *pay* for the treatment or not? That makes it a different matter than just pure medical judgments being requested to settle such cases.
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