I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
New computers are fun, but getting everything set up properly is a pain in the ass...
FUCK BOOSH!
Today Bush dropped "The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch" on Iran but forgot the 3 count.
Not any more, Thers. I have good crack. Ha! You get it if you're Irish.
I'm beginning to wonder if the death of the Pope and the process of selecting a new one might dim the spotlight the radical evangelicals in this country have been enjoying for years.
It would be good to see the corporate media obsessed with a legitimate, established religious sect like Catholicism instead of snake handlers. It might actually get a lot of moderate religious people out in the open about their faith. With any luck they'll take Christianity back from the lunatics.
George W. Bush: Worst. President. Ever.
OK you guys. Here I go regarding the pope.
I'm Catholic. I admire the hell out of the pope. Don't agree with him on a lot,but I do admire him. I think he's one of the rare genuine holy men. His hearts in the right place. He cares 1000% more for the poor than he gives a rats ass for the wealthy.
I am amused listening today for the few minutes I could stomach Faux News that they are claiming him as a "conservative". While technically true,maybe, the Pope is more of a humanitarian than anyone I have ever heard of. He is truly "pro life". He's anti abortion, anti death penalty and very much anti any of Bush's dumb ass, opportunistic wars.
Would that dim hulk of a shell pope just go the fark away? Really. Expire, already!
It would be good to see the corporate media obsessed with a legitimate, established religious sect like Catholicism instead of snake handlers.
The Catholic church is a de facto ally of these "snake handlers" and they all but endorsed the Snake Handler in Chief against a practicing Catholic.
The more coverage it gets, the happier the fundis are.
Or have we all forgotten the lesson of the Passion of the Christ?
I know this probably has been written in earlier threads, but I'm really going to miss John Paul II. He was really a good Pope who truly cared about all of God's children. If only our world leaders can show 1/4 of the compassion he has shown the world would be a better place. Good night you princes and princesses of Eschaton.
WONDER WHY CORPORATE AMERICA FAVORS ARBITRATION ?
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/
2...ain684802.shtml
Consumers screwed again.
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Where you been, EarthMerm?
Glad to see you.
I have good crack. Ha! You get it if you're Irish.
Not craic?
who truly cared about all of God's children.
Don't think so, but I don't begrudge people who mourn their own dead.
Alec Baldwin is smacking Repubs and Christian Right on Bill Maher.
What does "holy" mean?
thanks,
SD
(also, if anyone has link to entire Dancing in the Dark by Big Daddy, I would appreciate)
double thanks/S
What kind of computer did you get, Thirsties? i'm hoping it's a Mac.
He was really a good Pope who truly cared about all of God's children.
Except if you were gay, a woman who wanted the freedom to chose an abortion, an African aids victim or a nine year old boy in an American catholic school.
R.I.P. Frank Perdue
Oh no, the snake handlers truly hate the Catholics. Sure, there's been a marriage of convenience between the snake handlers and the established sects, but that's only because the snake handlers are using them to push a pro-religion agenda.
You want to scare the crap out of the radical fundamentalists? Start advocating Catholic religion in public schools.
(I think the Vatican was misguided in sort of supporting Mel Gibson's Bloody Torture of Christ, but I think it came from being blinded by the authenticity of the setting. They liked the pushing of the story even while overlooking the sadomasochistic excesses.)
This pope may have cared about all of God's children, but he ranked them in order of importance-men over women, straights over gays, etc. and that was his "cardinal" sin.
I think the Pope would be appalled by the phonies on parade in front of Mrs. Schiavo's hospice.
Those people are the worst of
Christianity. The best thing about religion to them is that they can beat everyone over the head and let us all know just how "religious: they are.Those people are horrible.
My dad was the most genuinely religious and spiritual man I have ever known. He would have cut off his own arm before he'd parade and strut in front of TV cameras and cable TV "reporters", carrying some dumb-ass sign and avowing how close to God he was. The Ku Klux Kristians give all truly religous people a black eye.
Thersites--I know exactly what you mean about new computers. After years amassing compatible programs for my ack ack Win 98, I got an eMac, only to find that many of the programs had no Apple equivalent. So now I have a superior system with fewer options. It kills me that PaintShopPro doesn't even bother with Apple.
You want to scare the crap out of the radical fundamentalists? Start advocating Catholic religion in public schools.
I'm pretty sure there's a better way.
Pope Ratzinger [shudder]
His "unofficial" Fan Club
on matters papal I'll say, roughly, "what josh marshall wrote" and add that no matter what one thinks of this pope (great,good, bad) - all signs point to the next one being much worse.
Thers,
Not craic? Sorry! The first time I went to Ireland, I was stunned to hear about all the good CRACK untill it was explained to me as a jolly good time. Whew.
Frank Perdue was a chick magnet
You want to scare the crap out of the radical fundamentalists? Start advocating Catholic religion in public schools.
Wouldn't that also scare Jews, Muslims, atheists, Buddhists, Hindus and Scientologists.
Let's face it, the fundis may hate Catholics deep down inside, but they both hate gays, uppity womyn, and seclarists a lot more.
Common enemy and it's love. Pass the snakes and the sacremental wine Bubba. Sure Seamus. Thank God we're not like them nasty faggots and Jews.
OMG Cardinals have fan clubs????
Color me shallow, but I have no
brief with any leader of organized
religion.
Even the one's who do some good
works.
They've all made deals with the
devil like politicians, but because
they're spiritual, we're supposed to
cut them slack because they're quote
better.
Sorry. This Pope may have been good
on some issues, but he was horrific
on others.
and, okay, what is the lesson of the passion of christ?
I flat don't know.
Bigvic;
I've been busy with grandkids, yada yada.
How have you been?
and, okay, what is the lesson of the passion of christ?
Fundis and Catholics both loved it. It revealed the common bond between the Evangelicals and the Catholic church.
Atrios has struck a cold, chilling knife into my heart, NOT!
Fuck all of them. The Catholic Church is dead to me.
It takes a tough man to make a tender chicken.
bigvic
Hope you're following the last thread also cause there are more good messages to you about losing Blue.
I finally read the last thread just in time to find out there's another thread.
Grrrrrrrr. 
Agree with Josh and Atrios, they're liable to pick a real loon as the next pope.
Let the dark ages begin!!
and, okay, what is the lesson of the passion of christ?
it confirms my suspicion that Mel Gibson's career high water mark was lethal weapon #1
I'm Catholic. I admire the hell out of the pope. Don't agree with him on a lot,but I do admire him. I think he's one of the rare genuine holy men. His hearts in the right place. He cares 1000% more for the poor than he gives a rats ass for the wealthy.
I am amused listening today for the few minutes I could stomach Faux News that they are claiming him as a "conservative". While technically true,maybe, the Pope is more of a humanitarian than anyone I have ever heard of. He is truly "pro life". He's anti abortion, anti death penalty and very much anti any of Bush's dumb ass, opportunistic wars.
I'm not a Catholic (or Christian) so I won't judge how good a Pope JPII is, although I'm sure he's a far better man than anyone the Fox sycophants admire.
Oh no, the snake handlers truly hate the Catholics.
A former Catholic work collegue of mine once told me that when he was growing up (and he was only in his mid 20s) his family would sometimes get hate phone calls from fundamentalists harassing and condeming them for being Catholic.
Strange thing was this guy was a hard core Bush fan & knee-jerk conservative. He left not long after the 2000 "election" so I don't know what he thinks of Bush now, but he was pretty clue-free so I don't hold out much hope that he has since seen the errors of his way.
I've been to Vatican City many times and I think it's one of the most beautiful places on Earth.
I was there when the Pope blessed us in June 1987. That was a lot of fun.
Let the dark ages begin!!
fourlegsgood | Email | Homepage | 04.01.05 - 11:47 pm
I think the Dark Ages roooooock!
I went to a club in Dublin called the Craic House once. Let's just say we could use more of that kind of craic.
As a great man once said:
"Up with hope, down with dope."
I like the story about when the Pope came to Denver and someone had made up all these T-shirts referring to him as "La Papa" ---Spanish for "the potato."
"Up with hope, down with dope."
And fuck da Pope.
(sorry couldn't resist)
Jack Van Impe at one point fingered this guy as the Antichrist, or as the High Priest of Antichrist, and the countdown begins before the next one is so designated.
Fourlegs,
I hope you are wrong. I hope they realize they are hemoragging members if they don't get out of the dark ages and move along into the modern world.
I go to Mass and feel guilty. I am pro-choice, anti death penalty, anti war. I raised our 7 kids, sent them all to Catholic schools and admire the basic tenents of Catholicism. However, I am ashamed of the way the Catholic church handled the priest/sex scandal, ashamed of their stance on women in the church, ashamed of their stand on gay marriage.
It would be nice if the next pope was a lot more modern. I hope they realize this.
Years ago I bought a bunch of black "Pope Tour" T-shirts from Don Smith Sales for a buck each and gave them to everyone as part of their X-Mas presents. They looked like a rock group tour t-shirt with all the cities listed on the back.
Everyone had a good laugh.
Earthmerm,
Well, if not for the loss of a pet. I think we all know how that goes. Love hurts. We go on to love others, though.
and the fan club's comments section about Catholics in the News is a real hoot, scout prime. Re the Schiavo horror, and I quote:
Death to the Culture of Death!
He was really a good Pope who truly cared about all of God's children.
Except if you were gay, a woman who wanted the freedom to chose an abortion, an African aids victim or a nine year old boy in an American catholic school.
Amazing. Having been nine years old and in an American Catholic school long ago, and being gay, and watching my partner and many of my friends die of AIDS in the 80's & 90's, I can fully agree with this statement.
Abortion disturbs me deeply, but making it illegal gives me nightmares.
The pope himself had some finer points, but the church and its (in)doctrine essentially kills the already-living.
Jack Van Impe at one point fingered this guy as the Antichrist, or as the High Priest of Antichrist, and the countdown begins before the next one is so designated.
kei & yuri | Email | Homepage | 04.01.05 - 11:54 pm
You had me at "Jack Van Impe fingered" . . .
The sociopath is here.
Try not to talk to him.
Thanks!
The pope himself had some finer points, but the church and its (in)doctrine essentially kills the already-living.
Tomorrow I'm going to Barnes and Nobles and buying a nice big, fat, copy of "The Collected Works of Voltaire".
I'm going to mourn the Pope by reading it.
Brandy Canyon -
I think you gave me a lap dance once.
No dialog with sociopaths!
Thanks.
You'll feel better.
I think you gave me a lap dance once.
Toby Petzold | Email | Homepage | 04.01.05 - 11:59 pm | #
So funny that someone can mention visiting the Vatican many times and a lapdance within a few minutes of each other.
A repressively authoritarian institution dedicated to controlling peoples' sex lives and the sex industry.
They need each other somehow.
Seriously.
No dialog with sociopaths.
Badinage with amoral idiots, okay.
But no dialog with sociopaths.
The Catholic church is a de facto ally of these "snake handlers" and they all but endorsed the Snake Handler in Chief against a practicing Catholic.
The American Catholic hierarchy isn't particularly representative of much on-the-ground Catholicism, or much of the overall Catholic clergy. It's bedded-in, and there's a growing divide between the kind of third-generation suburban conservatives and the first-generation urban liberals.
I remember being unpleasantly surprised when I moved from a working-class town with a big Irish and Italian Catholic base to one where the local church was an Oratory, and had a very middle-class base. Let's just say I'd never heard prayers offered for the queen before.
Anyway, I have a sense that we're going to be surprised who emerges from this conclave. And not necessarily in a bad way. Then again, I thought Americans were going to kick George Bush back to Texas; but I am a (col-lapsed) Catholic, and not an American.
Pat Buchanan, of all fucking people, said something on the button earlier this evening to Keith Olbermann (who I'm now pretty certain is a practising Papist). The gist was this: there's a sizeable section of Catholics who've muddled and muddied doctrinal differences simply because of their respect for JP2. People who, like me, were little kids when he got elected; were little kids when he was shot; and were kids when he travelled to their country and you got to go on the school trip to see him.
A new pope doesn't inherit any of that; he does inherit the reactionary doctrinal stuff that has been given lip-service in the developed world. And if nothing's done to fix that, you'll see young European Catholics, in particular, giving a holy fuck-you to the chuch when their own kids come along.
That's why I wouldn't be totally shocked to see someone like Atrios's old uber-boss get the job.
Draco: You truly do have a superior system with fewer software options, but to lament the lack of equivalent programs- if you want to get the most out of that superior system, get the superior software that optimizes your system. I have no ties to any computer system or software manufacturers, but try the products from Adobe for your Mac. You'll never go back to Microsoft.
Seriously.
No dialog with sociopaths.
I'm down with that. Peace!
Draco, it's called "Graphic Converter".
Makes Paintshop Pro look retarded.
You'll also want "USB Overdrive" for your multi-button/scrollwheel mouse. Seriously!
I second the motion. No dialogue with sociopaths. (even if they say something that makes sense).
DO NOT FEED THE ANIMALS.
...but try the products from Adobe for your Mac. You'll never go back to Microsoft.
Once you go Mac, you'll never go back.*
*I don't own a Mac, I just wanted to say that.
10/4, Chris Tucker.
Draco, you'll also want Popchar Pro.
The greatest little application for inserting those oddball characters into, oh, Haloscan comments:
Æ?¥€
For example.
Has it been mentioned yet that Toby is stupid and ugly and nobody likes him?
Anybody remember Pope John XXIII? He was a good one.
This tract from fundi-nutcase Jack Chick basically sums up what the fundamentalists think of Catholics...
http://www.chick.com/reading/tra...071/
0071_01.asp
Seriously.
No dialog with sociopaths
can i still quote Thersites? i promise i won't talk to him...
Since Dave's not here ('dave's not here, man'), I'm going to take this opportunity to announce that you're in the middle of a fabulous "Ignore the Moronic Brownshirt Fucks Million Dollar Weekend!"
Brought to you courtesy of Cal Worthington and His Dog Spot!
"Go see Cal, go see Cal, go see Cal!"
This is my favorite picture of Karol Wojtyla.
I think he's wearing some Converse high-tops.
Richard--it wasn't lost on me that Ba'al received a mention in the Chick tract.
Piss off the fundoids today! Worship Ba'al!
Yeah, JPII may not have been really touchy-feely close to gays, and women's rights, and all that abortion stuff.
Of course, none of it applies to you if you're not Catholic...
However, JPII came out with a statement some years ago, "Truth cannot contradict Truth".
Simply put, science is cool. It's a way for us to more fully understand the wonder and diversity of God's Creation and to get closer to God by constantly discovering the microcosmic and macrocosmic secrets of the Universe.
He also said that, when ever Science and Scripture contradict each other, go with Science, because there is no real contradiction between the two, we, as flawed and imperfect humans, will, by our very natures, have a flawed and imperfect understanding of Scripture.
A very large and explicit "Bugger Off!" to the fundie thumpers who decry evolution, et al.
Brought to you courtesy of Cal Worthington and His Dog Spot!
wow- for Cal Worthington the movie, Billie Bob Thorten would be spot on
Lap dances? Ha, ha! I've had exactly two in my whole life (both times at bachelor parties) and it's very uncomfortable. For my crotch.
THE NEXT POPE WILL BE THE ANTICHRIST(/MERKIN PANTYCOSTAL ASHCROFT)
John Ashcroft for pope?
Pat Buchanan?
Clenis(tm) regretfully turns down the post citing celibate conflict...
Father Guido doesn't get enough ratings for the task these days.
Those of you who practice, demand a new advocate for Human rights be indoctrinated. One with Latin heritage or influence to mirror the link to the Contra infringement of sovereignty.
Or my personal favorite choice- Bishop Desmond Tutu.
Human rights and sovereignty. The higher purpose of human existence. Universal(Catholic) values have matured. New fruit born of old faith.
Go, Sally, go!
One problem, Mr. Murder. Bishop Tutu's not a Catholic.
Has it been mentioned yet that Toby is stupid and ugly and nobody likes him?
I was waiting for you to remind me.
Just saw on Olbermann that the pope might have stabilized a bit- apparently his kidneys are producing urine.
I think this thing is gonna drag on for a while.
Of course CNN international is being pretty glum. So who knows?
One problem, Mr. Murder. Bishop Tutu's not a Catholic.
As long as we're nominating non Catholics for Pope, may I suggest Bill Clinton?
Just saw on Olbermann that the pope might have stabilized a bit- apparently his kidneys are producing urine.
Too much information.
"Bill Clinton for Pope.
Let's make the Vatican fun again."
Just saw on Olbermann that the pope might have stabilized a bit...
That's putting a big crimp into somebody's plans...
Let's make the Vatican fun again.
This would be a good place to start...
The Vatican Rag
First get down on your knees
Fiddle with your rosary beads
Bow your head with great respect
Then genuflect, genuflect, genuflect
Do most any step you want if
You have cleared it with the Pontiff
Everybody say his own
Kyrie Elieson
Get into that small confessional
Step in line in that processional
There the guy who's got religion'll
Tell you if your sin's original
If it is, try playing it safer
Drink the wine and chew the wafer
Two- four- six- eight
Time to transubstantiate
Make a cross on your abdomen
When in Rome do like a Roman
Ave Maria,
Gee, it's good to see you
Doing the Vatican Rag
I dunno. Seems to me like non-human animals we live with are companions, not "pets". Whatever that means.
A repressively authoritarian institution dedicated to controlling peoples' sex lives and the sex industry.
They need each other somehow.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 04.02.05 - 12:01 am |
Back with the sex again?
Modern Poetry:
The insurgency in Iraq has demonstrated that a relatively small force of lightly armed insurgents in an area roughly the size of California can bog down, stretch to the limit, and effectively counterbalance for two years the might of the U.S. military, despite its trillions of dollars worth of satellites, armor, artillery, air power, futuristic weapons, and old-fashioned bullets.
From Tom Dispatch "If you build it, they will kill"
Puppethead is right on the money. Growing up, I heard an End Times/Pope is AntiChrist sermon several times a year. It remains the sermon of choice for the last night of southern rural revivals.
But maybe things are changing a bit. Yesterday, one of my students suggested that the Catholics were "a lot like" Christians. Some resisted my explanation that they actually were Christians. These were high school juniors. We moved on. Gotta cover those danged SOLs.
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