Gawd - Maybe I should prepare something so I will have something pithy to say when I am first. But that might be taking this whole first thing entirely too seriously.
QL in NY |
04.02.05 - 2:07 pm | #
The Pope is still seriously dying...
Agitprop |
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04.02.05 - 2:11 pm | #
Ahh, the clean smell of fresh thread....
Mr. Bill |
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04.02.05 - 2:12 pm | #
But with all this talk about the pope, has anyone heard if Falwell is still dying too?
wolferj |
04.02.05 - 2:13 pm | #
Wolferj--from what I hear, Falwell is, regrettably, improving. However, I also heard that upon his passing, Fred Phelps plans to picket his funeral.
Sallyh |
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04.02.05 - 2:14 pm | #
Ah, a new thread, upon which we can debate whether Leibnizian or Spinozan monads are more tenable...
(Lynchburg, VA) Reverend Jerry Falwell continues to improve and his condition is now listed as fair at Lynchburg General Hospital.
On Friday, Reverend Falwell discontinued all breathing assistance and he is getting exercise by walking the hallways of his hospital unit. Doctors continue to monitor his progress and are encouraged by the pace of his recovery.
TROY - An Army reservist who recently returned from Iraq was arrested Thursday after Troy Police detectives investigated a shaken-baby incident that left his 7-month-old son with brain damage, authorities said. link here
Karin |
04.02.05 - 2:17 pm | #
Reverend Jerry Falwell continues to improve and his condition is now listed as fair at Lynchburg General Hospital.
Definitive proof there is no god.
flory |
04.02.05 - 2:17 pm | #
CD, I will look around. I can let you know.
DWD |
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04.02.05 - 2:17 pm | #
WGG: I realize your new title came straight from one of the name-generators we wuz playin' with, but you DO realize they misspelled "desperado," right?
Silleigh |
04.02.05 - 2:18 pm | #
QL in NY,
Hey, FUCK BUSH always works for me. (It cannot be said often enough or passionately enough)
DWD |
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04.02.05 - 2:18 pm | #
Once again, your tax dollars in action, and no, this is not WorldNetDaily. Next time, I'll duly warn if that's the case.
Well, if only his condition were like the pope, in which he seemed to get better, then took a turn for the worse and returns to the brink of death. That would be justice, indeed.
wolferj |
04.02.05 - 2:20 pm | #
Karin--I suspect there are going to be a lot of child and spousal abuse cases related to soldiers returning from Iraq. Of course, we won't spend any money to help these people whose tours we have extended unmercifully and whose lives we have ruined.
Sallyh |
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04.02.05 - 2:20 pm | #
Of course, we won't spend any money to help these people whose tours we have extended unmercifully and whose lives we have ruined.
Oh, I'm sure they'll be able to spare a few thousand for their "Suck It Up And Deal" ad campaign...
Eli |
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04.02.05 - 2:22 pm | #
Shouldn't we be erroring on the side of life with the Pope? I know after living a life devoted to his faith and the welfare of others, he has decided not to return to the hospital and to die with dignity, but has Terri Shiavo taught us nothing? Where are the people with the life stickers on their mouths? Where is Randall Terry? It's the weekend, shouldn't we be seeing Delay making a speech on this? Or a diagnosis of the Easter video by Dr. Frist? Get into Air Force One NOW Mr. President. The Pope himself expressed his desire to keep Terri alive, we can let him decide an issue like his own death for himself! It's the CULTURE of life, not QUALITY of life. Has the world gone SANE??
Scrawler |
04.02.05 - 2:23 pm | #
Sallyh-yes it's tragic. I imagine a crying baby just got on this guy's last nerve.
Karin |
04.02.05 - 2:23 pm | #
Of course, we won't spend any money to help these people whose tours we have extended unmercifully and whose lives we have ruined.
Oh, I'm sure they'll be able to spare a few thousand for their "Suck It Up And Deal" ad campaign...
Indeed. I mean, it's not like we're trying to hide what this war is doing to them.
rorschach |
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04.02.05 - 2:25 pm | #
Sallyh -- glad somebody's bitching about this stuff.
I just love the quote from whoever it was about how complainers "have always disagreed with us about abstinence." Talk about your scurrilous spin.
Silleigh |
04.02.05 - 2:25 pm | #
The battle over Social Security also has caused a rift between the AARP and USA Next, a more conservative group whose members include former television host Art Linkletter.
``AARP is actually to blame for the predicament we find ourselves in with Social Security,'' said Charlie Jarvis, chairman and chief executive of USA Next. ``They have been the behemoth that has been pushing the liberal agenda, including 18 payroll taxes (since Social Security's inception). We intend to make them pay very dearly for their opposition to personal retirement accounts.''
Steve Hahn, an AARP spokesman, said Jarvis' remarks were erroneous and a distraction. ``Our members still view AARP as the most credible source when it comes to Social Security,'' he said.
Pay very dearly? What *punishment do these morons have in mind? And why do they want to continue to piss off the AARP? I suppose they don't think any longterm damage will be done to the Republican Party, since this is a really lame, lame duck president and his supporters that are pushing this.
pie |
04.02.05 - 2:25 pm | #
Another scandal in America's Heartland!
Kaukauna
Ms. Wheelchair Wisconsin Loses Crown for Standing Up
Apr 1, 2005, 7:27 PM
Ms. Wheelchair Wisconsin 2005 was stripped of her crown after she was photographed standing up.
Kaukauna High School math teacher Janeal Lee was photographed with her class about a month ago for a local newspaper.
Lee has muscular dystrophy. She gets around in a scooter but can walk on a limited basis. She says she raised that issue with state pageant officials before competing and was told that would be okay.
An official for the Ms. Wheelchair America pageant said candidates must mostly be seen in public using a wheelchair or scooter.
Lee said, "Obviously I'm disappointed in the outcome but it's not going to stop me from being an advocate. I have a wonderful opportunity to impact 150 students in my classroom daily."
Lee would have competed in the national pageant against her sister, Sharon, who is Ms. Wheelchair Minnesota.
Instead, Lee's runner-up, Michelle Kearney of Milwaukee, will compete in the Ms. Wheelchair America pageant, which is in New York in July.
RealTexan |
04.02.05 - 2:27 pm | #
I REALLY want to collect charlie jarvis and just beat the living shit out of him...i really really really really do...MR. Slugger & I are available if the opportunity ever presents...
Am I the only one noticing the irony of the Pope having chosen to forego treatment, i.e. dialysis and a ventilator, as the infection caused sepsis in his system?
The other night, some Catholic hot shot was on Lehrer extolling the "culture of life". Isn't all life sacred and shouldn't we be doing all we can to preserve life?
Where does the Pope get off refusing treatment as the quality of his life diminished?
Mike |
04.02.05 - 4:05 pm | #
Published Sunday
March 27, 2005
Harold W. Andersen: Republicans have way to protest party's takeover by religious right
BY HAROLD W. ANDERSEN
WORLD-HERALD CONTRIBUTING EDITOR
The "let Terri live" voices are by far the loudest, but three national polls have indicated that the majority of Americans, relatively silent as the controversy continues, feel that the most compassionate treatment for Terri Schiavo - as well as the proper legal course of action - is to let her vegetative existence end, as advocated by her legal guardian, her husband.
The majority of Americans are simply outgunned when it comes to anything like "equal time" in the debate and legal maneuvering.
Representing the minority viewpoint are people with their hands on the levers of power - President Bush, House Speaker Dennis Hastert, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (and isn't he a fine one to be lecturing on the "moral" way to handle the Schiavo case) and Senate Majority Leader William Frist - holders of the most powerful positions in the U.S. Congress and all members of the Republican Party. What do members of the relatively silent majority do? How do they speak out?
For Republicans who consider their party a captive of the religious right on matters like medical research and right-to-die legislation and now legislative intrusion into the judicial system, there is a way to at least feel more comfortable with their political consciences.
That way is to leave a party whose leadership is currently attempting to leave behind in the dust of American constitutional history the principle of separation of powers that has served this country well for more than 200 years.
Republican-mandated congressional action last week attempting to intrude into areas traditionally reserved to the courts was tragic, yet not without almost comic opera overtones. For example:
CNN's live coverage of proceedings in the House of Representatives included repeated references to the "save Terri Schiavo" bill as having been "passed unanimously" by the Senate earlier that day.
But only three senators were present when the bill was rushed through what has sometimes been referred to as the world's greatest deliberative body. (Under rules in the House of Representatives, there did have to be a quorum present - that is, at least 218 of the 435 members - when the House voted on the measure "unanimously" passed by three senators.)
The press, in my opinion, have generally done an inadequate job of coverage. For one thing, the fact that the Senate's "unanimous" vote involved only three senators has received too little attention.
And I've been reading story after story and listening to broadcasts on the Schiavo case and it wasn't until two days ago that I read that Terri's husband, Michael, was not alone in recalling that his wife had said she didn't want to be kept alive by extraordinary means if her case appeared hopeless.
In one of the many judicial proceedings - more than 20 in all - Michael Schiavo's brother and sister-in-law testified that Terri had said "I don't want to be kept alive on a machine" and made several similar statements.
And there has been too little public discussion of two other factors that seem to me to be of considerable relevance:
Presumably, the religious conservatives deeply involved in the case believe in an afterlife - eternal life in circumstances considerably more appealing than lying in a hospital bed in a vegetative state for 15 years, being kept alive by food and liquids fed into your body through a hole in your abdomen.
Wouldn't the more compassionate course be to release Terri from a vegetative existence in the belief you are sending her on to a better life after death?
Also scarcely mentioned is the great irony in this fact:
Conservatives who excoriate judges for intruding onto legislative turf by "legislating" in some of their decisions are now applauding legislators for intruding onto judicial turf by telling the courts they must yet again review the Schiavo case.
Incidentally, I wonder if those fighting to continue to allow Terri to exist believe that those televised hospital room scenes are helpful to their cause in that they show Terri with mouth and eyes open, from time to time turning her head and seeming to smile.
But I believe those pictures - including the shot of nurses' hands inserting feeding tubes into Terri's abdomen - can be interpreted as tending to confirm medical experts' testimony as to Terri's vegetative state.
Whatever the motivation, the pictures seem to me a cruel invasion of what should be the privacy of pathetic Terri Schiavo's hospital room.
* * *
I would think that I'm not the only Republican who feels the party's leadership has engaged in an irresponsible and perhaps unprecedented effort to subvert the traditional separation of government powers. How to express our disapproval?
I'm going to the Douglas County Election Commissioner's office on Monday to change my political registration from Republican to Independent, while continuing to feel sympathy for Terri Schiavo and her parents and believing that the most compassionate course is to free her from her sad existence, Republican Party politicians to the contrary notwithstanding.
• The writer, retired publisher of The World-Herald, may be reached at P.O. Box 27347, Omaha, Neb., 68127. The telephone number is (402) 593-4553.
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