I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

G'day Moonbats!


GravatarHey, FUCK BUSH


Gravatarhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/ worldl...4908847,00.html

this is really fucked up.


GravatarMore sunlight please


GravatarIn honor of Espumoso from the thread below, and dedicating the rest of my life to remaining on topic, I'd just like to say "happy daylight savings to you too."


GravatarYeah! Now I can cheat Hank the Lab into believing that it's an hour earlier than it is. She usually starts gently poking me at six a.m., but tomorrow I can sleep to seven! Or the new six a.m. if you get my meaning.


Gravatargood.
one less hour before the '06 elections.
uhmmm...i mean selections.
whatever, someone better teach the chimp how to set the clock forward an hour.
and the twins--drunk again, sucking off secret service agents, pissed they won't have an extra hour to diddle with their coulters...


Gravatarback is not progressive- and there is no context to your post to guide us in discourse- Atrios why are you even here... man- you used to be relevant, what happened?


GravatarWhich made no sense whatsoever. Too much nectar, too little brain.


GravatarToo freakin windy...


GravatarAgreed: I live on the Western edge of the Eastern time zone. This makes it fairly strange around here in the summer. Usually gets fully dark about 10:30 at night. Eighty miles west of here in Milwaukee, it gets dark at 9:30. Either way, I would prefer not to switch times.


GravatarI will go firmly on record as opposing the absolute hell out of DST. Tomorrow morning is the saddest morning of the year, as I wake up and start fixing all the clocks to show the hour that's been gobbled up, and I will have a hell of a time avoiding being late for work for about 10 days.

However, switching back to Standard Time is better than Christmas morning around here.


GravatarHey, not getting enough hate mail at your blog?

Have some of mine!

Yes, it's this weeks installment of Moron Mail from the MBF Brigade.


GravatarI grew up without this clock changing, and I never get used to it. I usually have my car's clock unchanged all year, for example, so it's right only six months out of twelve.


GravatarDST blows. In the spring.
In the fall, it ROCKS!


GravatarHere's a question: will Haloscan adjust at 2AM?

Echidne: I used to do that (before someone busted my car window and stole the CD player w/clock). It took a toothpick or something to get in there and change the time, so I just never bothered.


GravatarSo the next Pope - Condi or Wolfowitz?


GravatarI don't want more sunlight, goddammit!


GravatarBefore it left for its spring recess the full Senate had been expected to vote on the nomination of Anthony Principi, former secretary of veterans affairs, as chairman of the Defense Base Closure and Realignment Commission. The other commissioners, nominated by Bush on March 15, also required Senate confirmation.

However, Lott - who opposes base closures and has pledged to protect military facilities in his home state - placed a ``hold'' on Principi's nomination, according to aides and lobbyists speaking on condition of anonymity. The hold delayed voting on the his nomination.


Is this what some of his Republican colleagues would call an "unconstitutional filibuster" of the "President's" "right" to appoint whoever he likes?

What does Bill Frist (R-Pigfucker) have to say about Trent Lott's behavior? HMMM?


GravatarWhy do we still DO this??? I don't know many people who like changing time. Every year, I wonder why there's not some great uprising over it and demands that we quit messing with the clocks.

We apparently don't have great uprisings involving sensible things anymore, though.


GravatarWhy can't we have DST year around?

I like to sleep till at least noon, so I could use as much daylight as I can get.


GravatarWhat is this moonbat thing?

More importantly, how can I do links and embolden/italicize text in the haloscan world?


GravatarAnother stupid law enacted by our Congress. It isn't even healthy. Long ago I heard it was for the farmers. Then I learned the farmers hated it. Everyone hates it yet we still do it. I am all for moving it 30 minutes ahead and then leaving it alone forever!


Gravatar"I will go firmly on record as opposing the absolute hell out of DST. Tomorrow morning is the saddest morning of the year, as I wake up and start fixing all the clocks to show the hour that's been gobbled up, and I will have a hell of a time avoiding being late for work for about 10 days."

I've always been viciously opposed to losing an hour on the weekends. The horror of it all!


GravatarI've been thinking for some time now of abandoning daylight savings time. It's an anachronism from when this country was predominantly an agrarian economy. It's an unnecessary thing to be doing in the age of electricity.

(don't take me too seriously)


GravatarHey, I love DST! I love it staying light 'til 9 pm, or even later! When I lived near the beach in SF, there were always a couple of days a year during the summer when it would never get completely dark - there would be a slight glow from the western horizon shining into the sky all night... summer equinox is my favorite day of the year - sun up at 5:45 am, down at 8:50 pm... bring it on! Summer means FUN!!!


GravatarLisa Daniels, idiot MSNBC reporter that got bitchslapped by Dr. Cranford on Scarborough last week, has hosted a special "Schiavo, Lessons" (or something like that). It was supposed to run this afternoon but was preempted by the Pope coverage.

That's what I'm thankful for today.


GravatarToby,I'll give you credit for your song post.

Namaste, good human.


Now, en garde!


Gravatar"So the next Pope - Condi or Wolfowitz?"
Super Milk Chan

Uh, I'm not sure anyone has broken it to Chimpy, but he doesn't have anything to say about electing the next pope...


GravatarI grew up without this clock changing, and I never get used to it. I usually have my car's clock unchanged all year, for example, so it's right only six months out of twelve.
Echidne of the snakes

Echidne, me, too!

And, my cats hate it. It disrupts routine.


GravatarRusty, please see the web pages I've set up at:
http://tinyurl.com/2bzyk,
or:
http://web.newsguy.com/christucker/tips.html

For the answers to your questions.


GravatarIs this the night we throw our clocks out the window?


GravatarKind of funny, Indiana is working furiously to enact DST. We are so retro out here that we might be ahead of things!


GravatarRanty, just above the box where you type your message is a blue question mark. Click it, and all your questions will be answered.


GravatarI run my air conditioner in the winter time.


GravatarI hear the farmers hate it, too, Sarah, esp. dairy farmers because the cows are used to a schedule.

I'm not sure why the farmers are working on a clock but....


Gravatarohio man(dst) living in indianapolis (no dst)

no comparison dst is the only way to go

who the hell is up to enjoy the 5-6 AM daylight in the summer

(disclaimer) i am a golfer - evening golf is beautiful


GravatarRanty: "Moonbat" is a term bestowed upon us by the rightards. We find it endearing and have adopted it as our own.

To bold text: On either side of the text you want bolded, type this:

<b>text you want bold</b>

To italicize: Use the same tags, but substitute the letter "i" for the "b".

To embed text:

<a href="http://www.the-URL-you-want-to-embed"> Text You Want To Turn Blue</a>

Hope I didn't screw that up (you can't just type the lesser-than and greater-than symbols without them creating code here). Note the space after the <a , and the quotation marks around the URL.

Chris Tucker has probably already beat me to answering you, however, and he probably didn't make any mistakes, either.


GravatarIs this the night we throw our clocks out the window?

back in college, we used to burn a paper clock at 2 a.m., in sacrifice to the god Kronos


GravatarOT, here's a pretty good deconstruction of where we are in Iraq after all this.

via MoJo

It reminded me, we set up a democratic government in Viet Nam, too. Democracy on the march!

Also, my Pope obit.


Gravatarjohn, you have to experience the sweet serenity of delivering papers at 6am.


Or the sweet serenity of driving your little fishing boat to the backwaters of the Mississippi as the sun comes over the bluffs. I was 13 or 14 but it was beautiful...


GravatarUh, I'm not sure anyone has broken it to Chimpy, but he doesn't have anything to say about electing the next pope...



Oh ya, that's what you think, Chimpy's still spending that political capital. (like a drunken sailor)


GravatarHappy Daylight Savings

Actually, it's "Daylight Saving Time" (no -s)


GravatarRanty, apologies for screwing up your name.


GravatarNaturally, the French Catholic church may be somewhat relieved at seeing "the Slavic Pope from the East" depart.

French Bishops and the Roman Curia fought 20 years of pitched battles. The French were particularly miffed at JP's support for winger priests. After 10 years of cajoling Lefebvre (Piux X Society)and his breakaway winger seminary, his concessions blew up in his face with a Category V heresy. They felt JP was too easy on the wingers and very harsh on progressive Catholics who got the Papal hammer in 10 minutes, not 10 years.

The French did not care for JP's showy, public faith-affirming "evangelical" style which they felt was Polish overreaction to communism.

The Pope was also embroiled in a standoff with Zapatero over the obligatory teaching religion in the classroom...everyone seems to be grateful for the end of Cold War priests.


GravatarNur-al--well said.

BTW, I really like your name. I have no idea why. I just really enjoy it.


Gravatartesting...

bold normal


GravatarRipley:

Toby,I'll give you credit for your song post.

Thanks. But did you catch the cool photo of Karol Wojtyla I posted?


Gravatareveryone seems to be grateful for the end of Cold War priests.
Nur al-Cubicle


List of potential successors.

Almost all are conservative.
None are under 60.


GravatarEvidently, Cardinal "Molesters 'R Us" Law is going to be on ABC's "This Week".

If I were on that show, my first question would be : "As someone who covered up for and enabled child rapists, why the hell aren't you in jail?"


GravatarIt's time for a pope from Latin America or Mexico.


GravatarI'm not sure why the farmers are working on a clock but....
Ripley

Rip, I think it's because dairy farming is damned hard work and there are only so many hours in each day.


GravatarIf Phila is around, there's an interview with Marilynne Robinson in the Guardian, here
I know he's a big fan.


GravatarWhere's that place in Indiana where they don't observe DST? It's like a few of their counties or something.


Gravatarwho the hell is up to enjoy the 5-6 AM daylight in the summer

"Enjoy" may not be the word, but if you have to be at your high school by 7AM and have to catch a bus to get there, you're up to "enjoy" the darkness at that hour. Just ask my 16-year-old.

IT people generally hate this shit, too. There are also more car accidents around the time of each time change.


GravatarDoesn't nur al-cubicle mean something like woman in the room? I'm probably making this up.


GravatarList of potential successors.

Almost all are conservative.
None are under 60.
Vas Deferens |

Vas, the definitive sentence is, "none are under 60."

I like that.


Gravataruh, though it should have been "none IS under 60."


GravatarMy papal ducats are on Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga of Honduras. It ain't going to be an Italian.


GravatarToby, I did but, not being part of the Pope-arazzi, I wasn't sure what it meant.

As pictures go, not bad - reminds me of Anthony Hopkins for some reason. Think "The Edge".... ??


Gravatar"I grew up without this clock changing, and I never get used to it. I usually have my car's clock unchanged all year, for example, so it's right only six months out of twelve.
Echidne of the snakes

Echidne, me, too!"

And, me too!


GravatarRip, I think it's because dairy farming is damned hard work and there are only so many hours in each day.

I suspect it might also have to do with the farm animals themselves not relying heavily on clocks.


GravatarWashington:

Lisa Daniels, idiot MSNBC reporter

But she's stunning.


Gravatarit means IT wench in a cubicle, pining for a window.


GravatarIt's hard to give a shit about DST when you're going on two years without a job. Sigh.
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GravatarNur al-cubicle, I used to have one of those cubicle offices without a window. I turned all pale and translucent and nocturnal.


GravatarWe'll be fighting in the streets,
with our children at our feet,
and the morals that they worship will be gone.
And the men who spurred us on
sit in judgement of all wrong,
they decide and the shotgun sings the song.
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
take a bow for the new revolution,
smile and grin at the change all around,
take up my guitar and play just like yesterday,
and I'll get on my knees and pray.
--- We don't get fooled again.
The change it had to come,
we knew it all along,
we were liberated from the fold, that's all.
And the world looks just the same,
and history ain't changed,
'cause the banners were all flown in the last war.
I'll move myself and my family aside,
if we happen to be left half alive,
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky,
though I know that the hypnotized never lie.
Nothing in the street looks any different to me.
And the slogans are replaced by the by,
and the parting on the left is now parting on the right,
and the beards have all grown longer over night.
Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss



GravatarVas Def--I think Danneels looks like a possibility. Also Lehmann.


GravatarI kinda like DST. It's bright like noon here right now, and we won't see night again until October.


GravatarRip, I think it's because dairy farming is damned hard work and there are only so many hours in each day.

Sarah, I meant that I wouldn't think famers would be driven by the time of day, as in "am I on time?". Ergo, the cows don't like DST because it changes their schedule.


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian, so sorry to hear that. It stinks.


GravatarI can't believe all you hypocritical liberal DST-hating timeophobes! Typical, always wanting to march in lock-step to Swiss timepieces - or is that the Germans? The Japanese? - anyway, the point is that you're all aginst the Murkins plus you're a bunch of moonbats, so no wonder you hate the daylight! How come I didn't hear a peep when Roosevelt put us all on War Time? Huh? Huh?

Seriously though, I still remember standing out in the freezing cold and snow in freakin' pitch blackness waiting for the schoolbus back in the 70's. Damn near lost three toes, and we never did find my little brother till the spring thaw. Damn you, Nix-on!!!

These days, given that Boulder snuggles up against the eastern Front Range of the Rockies, the sun slips away too soon anyway, so I'm all for moving the clocks. Heck- move 'em up two hours.


GravatarNur-al--he's definitely a front runner.


GravatarEchidne, how are your canine teeth? Mine seem to be getting longer. Been eating steak awfully rare, too.


GravatarList of potential successors

With regards to that MSNBC article, I found some of the comments about the various candidates trivial bordering on inane, the kind of thing you'd expect to see for beauty contest contenders. For example...

Cardinal Camillo Ruini
Of note: Considered long-winded, ambitious, wants to be pope

Cardinal Miloslav Vlk
Of note: As a bishop under communism was forced to work as a window washer for years; considered charming, popular

Cardinal Angelo Sodano
Of note: Intelligent diplomat-politician, Vatican man, considered bland

Cardinal Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga
Of note: Young, intelligent, politically able, but from a small country

Cardinal Francis Arinze
Traits: Funny, smiling facial expression, avid tennis player


GravatarSigns of age, I hated DST at this time due to getting up earlier. Now, I have a chance to do the lawn after work and have my weekends open. But then again, other signs of age, when you realize that 50 something lady on the television is hot. Course I am really messed up on this whole thing since the wife is 11 years my senior. Damn, nevermind, I am so confused. DST is a pain, it got me into this vein of thought and now I have to fight my way out of it.


GravatarEchidne -- Aw, no tears, here. A country boy can survive.
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GravatarWe lived in town but my folks had a beef farm outside town (where else would you have it?).

My parents and I were no strangers to the frustration and demands of farming.


Gravatar"Enjoy" may not be the word, but if you have to be at your high school by 7AM and have to catch a bus to get there, you're up to "enjoy"

That's about the extent of it. I get the newspapers in with daylight, but that only makes my neighbors suffer the sight of me at the crack of dawn, so a limited fan club, as far as I can tell.


GravatarEchidne, how are your canine teeth? Mine seem to be getting longer. Been eating steak awfully rare, too.

Yes! And the weakness in my knees when I look at the throbbing veins in people's necks...


Gravatar"It's hard to give a shit about DST when you're going on two years without a job."

Wanna reset all our clocks?


GravatarDavid E, something on your mind?


GravatarNur-al--when my husband started out in programming, he shared an office with a door and a roommate. Then he had an office to himself. Then an office with a locking door. then a window and a locking door.

And then, Bush took office.

He then had a cubicle of his own. Then a cubicle he shared with someone else. Then a cubicle he shared with three others, but with a window. Now he shares a cubicle with three others, no window, and right next to the electrical closet.

He feels your pain.


Gravatarjdw: Wanna reset all our clocks?

Only if mileage/fuel costs are figured in...!
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GravatarErgo, the cows don't like DST because it changes their schedule.

That's ridiculous.

Cows don't wear watches.


GravatarGreat post at Americablog, about DeLay:

And a word about Tom DeLay, I figured it out
by John in DC - 4/2/2005 10:50:00 PM

DeLay didn't use Terri Schiavo to divert attention from his ethics problems. He used Terri Schiavo to suck up to the religious right so they'll put pressure on Congress and the White House to save his ass. That's why he's going off on judges, even though the polls say he's out of his mind. He's sucking up to the wingnuts so he'll become indispensable to them, their hero, their number one fan in Congress. He doesn't care HOW much his loony toons comments hurt the party or the White House. He's in the process of saving his ass. And that's why Cheney finally weighed in. To tell DeLay that he's not going to sacrifice everyone else in order to save himself.

If everyone plays their cards right, DeLay is toast. Of course, it also means the Dems should jump up now and take advantage of this split between DeLay trying to save himself and his embarrassing the party. Link what he's doing to the debate on the filibuster and the upcoming Supreme Court nominations. Hell, it IS linked. What the Dems need to do is start TALKING about the linkage. Or will they sit back, like they always do, and say la la la, with their fingers in their ears, hoping things turn out well without their intervention?


GravatarJeffraham, I'm so sorry to hear that.


GravatarWould it be wrong for me to break in and say Katie Holmes?

I just watched "Go".

DST? Bah, I laugh in the face of time.


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Gravatar"Only if mileage/fuel costs are figured in...!"

Sorry, couldn't resisit. Seems like a perfect service sector new job in the chimpco economy. That and ebay.


GravatarRichard--it's MSGOP. You were looking for insight?


GravatarYes, a 19th century mill with a skylight sounds kinda nice...but the work would wreck ny nails...


GravatarSilleigh is right about the dairy farmers, the cows and the time switch- it's a pain in the ass because the cows are accustomed to being milked on a schedule, and get unhappy when they aren't...reconciling the cow's timetable to the world's takes some doing.


GravatarThe Swiss cows do, Thers.


GravatarSallyh

When I went into IT I had a corner office with two windows and a private cubicle. Then they decided I was a support function and I got buried in the middle of the building. I have not had a window or a hint of one since '85 anywhere. If I didn't smoke, I would never get anything close to a tan.


Gravatar"Yes, a 19th century mill with a skylight sounds kinda nice...but the work would wreck ny nails..."
Nur al-Cubicle | Email | Homepage | 04.03.05 - 12:13 am | #

i'm delighted to hear another woman who's not afraid to keep her nails intact!


GravatarGO! is an awesome movie. And Katie Holmes still owes me a dance. God, how long does it take for a girl to find the ladies room in a bar?


GravatarEkC,

That is an upside, must grudgingly admit. I do like the later night light. But then again, I will always bitch about losing an hour of sleep. I have to take a morning flight tomorrow so I'm peeved.


GravatarCows don't wear watches.
-- Thersites

They could wear Bullovas.


GravatarTheOtherWashington: Jeffraham, I'm so sorry to hear that.

Well, it'll be okay. I'll get to file bankruptcy before the new law takes effect!

Cautionary tale, though: Do not speak truth-to-power when the power has a relative in the Congress, and the whole goddamned shootin' match is GOP, through and through. They won't fire you, though -- you'll just wake up every day and wish you were dead for a couple of years. At least I don't have that issue anymore!
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GravatarThe Swiss cows do, Thers.

I don't trust Swiss cows. Standing there in the fields with those bigass holes in them.


GravatarAnyone ever see the comic who did the bit about his dad being in a different time zone?

"It's 3 o'clock here... what is it, Thursday there?" or some such...


GravatarHoytC. Consigliere DeLay is in no trouble, neither is any other mafioso. He was setting the stage for an attack on Roe v. Wade. All the Rethugs collaborated on that fetid stench of a midnight act of congress.


GravatarEkCenTrik--I think not being able to smoke indoors kept my freckles going. Unfortunately, I've reached the time of life where they're called age spots.


GravatarAh yes, Sallyh, I share your husband's pain. I've gone the route from cubicle to office and back to cubicle again. The ones I hated the worst were when it's not even a real cubicle, walls on only one or two sides, or only 3 or 4 ft high. You feel so exposed.
But since I got laid off from my last IT job my worries are over.


GravatarStanding there in the fields with those bigass holes in them.

Bless the Cheese God they're not filling then holes...

"Yes, I'll take a 1/2 lb of brown cheese and slice it thin, please."


GravatarJohn Entwistle was the phattest bassist ever.


GravatarIf everyone plays their cards right, DeLay is toast.

From your mouth to god's ears.


GravatarWho remembers this?


I never saw a purple cow
I never hope to see one
But I can tell you anyhow
I'd rather see than be one


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian, yikes! It seems you still have your sense of humor. Even the gop can't take that away.


GravatarRiply sez:

Katie Holmes still owes me a dance/i

Me first. Wasn't she on one of those horrible teen shows? I first saw her in "The Wonder Boys".

And as per "Go"...a bit close to my younger life. It made me uncomfortable.


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GravatarRipley, absolutely!

(God, how old are we???)


GravatarThe Ox RIP


GravatarShit, Karin. That seems to be a constant refrain in IT. We know more people laid off in IT right now than we do working in it.


GravatarOh, fuck, I have absolutely nothing germane or worthwhile to add.

I religuish to better minds, fer sure.

You all are lovely.

Sweet dreams, and ny'tol.

SD


GravatarWould it be wrong for me to break in and say Katie Holmes? -spork_incident

Seen Pieces of April? Katie is great in it, but Patricia Clarkson is (technically speaking) fan-fucking-tastic! Just one of her amazing performances (she was also in All The Real Girls, The Station Agent, and Dogville) that year.


Gravatar"I've reached the time of life where they're called age spots."

Nah, they are still freckles. Shouldn't let people define you eh?


GravatarActually, I mistrust all cows. Why humanity has chosen to live in such proximity to one of Nature's Fiercest Predators, I'll never understand.


GravatarI'm a fashionably and handsome 38, nigh on 39.

So, do I get a Hummer when I turn 40? That's the new New Deal, right?


GravatarI hope Father Guido Sarducci, gets the nod:

On The Last Supper: It was actually a brunch. The check (discovered by Sarducci himself!) reveals that one guy only had a soft-boiled egg and tea, while everyone else stuffed themselves. But when the bill was paid, it was divided equally. The moral: "In groups, always order the most expensive thing."

On The "Missing" Commandments: There were actually more than ten, but Moses was old and grumpy, and after he broke the tablets he could only remember the negative ones. "Don't do this. Don't do that." The truth is, most of them were more like advice. The Twelfth Commandment, for example, was "Whistle while you work." (People think its from Disney, but Disney stole it from God.)

On Former Vice President Dan Quayle: Dan Quayle was going around the country giving C students a bad name.

On Masturbation: Life is a job. You get $14.50 a day, but after you die, you have to pay for your sins. Stealing a hub cap is around $100. Masturbation is 35 cents (it doesn't seem like much, but it adds up). If there's money left when you subtract what you owe from what you've earned, you can go to heaven. If not, you have to go back to work. (Sort of like reincarnation -- many nuns are Mafia guys working it off.)


GravatarEkCenTrik--nah, you're right. Especially not when Lancome has a great makeup line to help it along


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian

I hear Tommy boy Delay sicks the IRS on his foes on a regular basis. I detest repukes. No sense of fair play whatsoever.


GravatarI live in AZ, but I do help desk support across six time zones. When DST comes upon us, I have to remember that now the west coast is with us, and everything else has shifted up an hour. It's annoying. But not as annoying as it is for my coworkers who support bank branches. Their hours actually get changed. Ugh.


GravatarThey're a bunch of hyenas in St Peters Square. People playing guitars, singing and clapping...What every happened to the concept of quiet mourning?..anyway things got so unruly, the polizia had to be sent in.


GravatarSo, do I get a Hummer when I turn 40? That's the new New Deal, right?

Good Lord, I HOPE someone has given you a hummer or, y'know, 700 of 'em long before you turn 40!


Gravatar"I'm a fashionably and handsome 38, nigh on 39.

So, do I get a Hummer when I turn 40? That's the new New Deal, right?"
Ripley

Ripley, I've got 11 years on you...what do I get when I turn 50?


GravatarNite Sarah Dear!


Gravatarso it's right only six months out of twelve.

Echidne:
So you're saying you'clocks are right, it is time itself that is corrupted?

yeah, i'd buy that...


GravatarWould it be wrong for me to break in and say Katie Holmes?

I just watched "Go".


Yes. You should be saying 'Sarah Polley'.


GravatarYes, a 19th century mill with a skylight sounds kinda nice...but the work would wreck ny nails...

Trouble at the mill. One on't cross beams gone awt askew on treddle.


GravatarSo, do I get a Hummer when I turn 40?

If you don't have a girlfriend you'll probably have to pay for it.


GravatarThersites sez:

I mistrust all cows

Heathen.

Cows are dumb but well-meaning.

Pigs on the other hand...


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GravatarThersites

That mistrust of cows is shared. Emphasis on Oklahoma cows. When I was running between OKC and Altus, the cattle always seemed to be huddled together in the fields and I know they were watching me and making jokes as I rolled by. Texas livestock do not seem to duplicitous.


GravatarHoyt C--thanks for the Sarducci memories!


GravatarBut she's stunning.
Toby Petzold


Feh. Just another cookie-cutter blonde.

Now THIS is stunning!


GravatarThers, you joke, but I once saw a Holstein chase a ferocious bird off the barnyard in Sheboygan, WI. Actually, it was pretty funny...

However, I've been on the receiving end of a mama-cow charge when we had the farm. A 500 lb cow running headlong at you isn't as funny as it might appear to the casual observer.


GravatarWoody G's Guitar, I have always used the subjective concept of time. It's much more forgiving for one thing and it goes round in circles. I'm working on going backwards but so far I can only stop it for a second or so...


GravatarWhen I was running between OKC and Altus, the cattle always seemed to be huddled together in the fields and I know they were watching me and making jokes as I rolled by

Damn straight. I think they're all mobbed up.


GravatarSo, do I get a Hummer when I turn 40? That's the new New Deal, right?"
Ripley



the ideal male birthday present for ANY age past puberty: a t-bone, a six-pack, and a blow-job...a ball game in season...simple pleasures

so i've heard, and it seems reasonable to me, on current evidence, anyway...


Gravatar"appear to the casual observer.
Ripley"

That is versus the more formal observer in tux and cumberbund right?


Gravatar'What time is it, Eccles?'

'Errr, Just a minute. I've got it written down on a piece of paper. A nice man wrote the time down for me this morning.'


Gravatarpseudonymous in nc sez:

Yes. You should be saying 'Sarah Polley'

I was remiss. I apologize.

Also the babysitter in "Exotica" and the little girl in Gilliams "The Adventures of Baron Mnchausen".





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Gravatarcows are cool...


(careful they're watching)


GravatarA 500 lb cow running headlong at you isn't as funny as it might appear to the casual observer.

No, a 500-lbs cow running at me would not be funny. Watching it run at someone else however would of course be hilarious.


GravatarCows are a lot smarter than people think , so I wouldn't be surprised if they're plotting against you lot. I used to own a cow (it was birthday present from my grandma). She was very smart except that she ate some iron nails and then died.


Gravatar699 is the loneliest number....


Gravatar"Nature's Fiercest Predators"... a certain mocking tone there (but cows have no more sense of humor than that "Espuwhatis" guy... two things you don't want to come between-- a cow and her lunch (especially if you're late providing it) and a cow and her newborn calf-- you *will* pay.


GravatarEvidently, Cardinal "Molesters 'R Us" Law is going to be on ABC's "This Week".

That man is a moral midget. I talked to him down home once, in the 60s in the midst of heavy racial upheaval in the South, and he was oh so sympathetic with the white racists for the turmoil they were having to endure. I was so dumbstruck I just left the interview and left him out of the work I was doing. It was a time of clear moral choices and he showed himself to be an unctuous slimeball.


Gravatarmmmm..... steak....


GravatarNow THIS is stunning!
cory -- 12:27 am


THAT is positively feral, imo...


GravatarDon't fool with renegade cows.

Just sayin'.


Gravatarthe ideal male birthday present for ANY age past puberty: a t-bone, a six-pack, and a blow-job...a ball game in season...simple pleasures

There's a website, for that, WGG. Let me look


GravatarYes. You should be saying 'Sarah Polley'.
pseudonymous in nc | Email | Homepage | 04.03.05 - 12:26 am | #


She's an actual socialist, NDP member. She's also about 4'10".


GravatarCentral Scrutinizer: Don't fool with renegade cows.

Just sayin'.


Especially the ones wearing leather jackets.


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GravatarShe was very smart except that she ate some iron nails and then died.



No, no, no I think this indicates that she was very dumb!


Gravatarand a cow and her newborn calf-- you *will* pay.

Nick's not kidding. As dumb as cows seem, they're not very cuddly when they have calves.

I don't mean calves as in gastrocnemius muscles, I mean baby cows....


GravatarWalked out of a cocktail party in Houston once and a goddam cow was waiting outside...it fell off a cattle truck. Naturally some foolish females wanted to pet poor bleeding Bossy...and naturally, she charged. Have you ever seen a bunch of tipsy people running with their rears tucked in? Unforgettable.


GravatarIn grad school (Rutgers), my lab was next to one of the cow pastures for the Ag school. If you walked up to the fence, all the Holsteins would amble over and nudge you so you'd pet them. Like big dogs. Granted these were very pampered animals, but they were sort of cool. Some friends and I "adopted" one for Ag Field Day; got to groom it and show it. Fun Fun Fun in the Garden State....


GravatarI didn't want to mention this, but the squirrels in the city are agents of the conspiritorial cows. Really, I don't want to alarm anyone, but you might want to keep your conversations sparse around them. Ever notice how they always seem to be craning forward when watching you, as if they want to hear better.


GravatarJeffraham Prestonian,

Especially if they're smoking cigarettes.


GravatarI said, One of the cross beams has gone out askew on the treddle. Well, what on earth does that mean? I don't know. Mr Wentworth just told me to come in here and say that there was trouble at the mill, that's all - I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition.

Confidential to Toby: I saw The Ox play in a little club back in the '80's. It was a bit of time ago, but I seem to recall his blathering on about his wife and spiders or something.


GravatarI once almost broke my wrist trying to keep a six month old calf from running over me. Those little fuckers are hard as rocks.


GravatarHey Toby, have you ever had sex with a cow?

some people say.....

just asking


GravatarShe was very smart except that she ate some iron nails and then died.



No, no, no I think this indicates that she was very dumb!


Humans smoke dried herbs wrapped in industrial paper...Cigarettes


GravatarI'll go with the pro-DST minority. Right around now it gets light before 6am, and my late-waking ass can't stand that. Plus it's all about saving energy, so as good liberals we should all be in favor, no?

On the downside it gets harder to bring the kid in to go to bed when we'd like ...




On a completely unrelated note --

List of potential successors.

Almost all are conservative.
None are under 60.


Hmmm, Soviet Union in 1982?


GravatarCow talk... the trolls are weeping on their Cheetos....


GravatarI hate DST with a passion. It's one of the little things that drove me into politics, no lie.

MUST END DST.


GravatarGeorge Bernard Shaw's mother was killed by an enraged cow on a family picnic.


GravatarSo, do I get a Hummer when I turn 40?

This is what becomes of people who buy Hummers...

http://www.mellody.co.za/michael...y/ emperor09.jpg


GravatarAmongst our weaponary are such diverse elements as surprise, fear, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope and nice red uniforms!


GravatarI didn't want to mention this, but the squirrels in the city are agents of the conspiritorial cows.



Just spit my drink all over my keys!


GravatarBy the way, I've read it most of the way through, but I'm not quite sure how this thread got turned in to an extended riff on that old FarSide cartoon that adorned coffee mugs too numerous to mention about ten years back ...


GravatarI've told this story before, but years ago I witnessed 5 cows walk out of the back of a trailer as it travelled down the road at 50 mph.

The most horrific/comical thing I've ever seen in my life.


GravatarCS...was it on the Katy Freeway?


GravatarWhat I want ot know is why do a bunch of cows in a field all face the same direction?


Gravatar"I didn't want to mention this, but the squirrels in the city are agents of the conspiritorial cows. Really, I don't want to alarm anyone, but you might want to keep your conversations sparse around them. Ever notice how they always seem to be craning forward when watching you, as if they want to hear better."
EkCenTriK

The squirrels, aka rats with executive hair that inhabit the UCLA campus are amazingly aggressive. I've lost lunches to these bastards.


GravatarEkCenTik sez:

I didn't want to mention this, but the squirrels in the city are agents of the conspiritorial cows.

Don't.

I've already had those beady-eyed bastards invade me house. I don't need cows running about my attick.


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GravatarHumans smoke dried herbs wrapped in industrial paper...Cigarettes

Hmmmnnn, what dried herbs are you talking about, and would you happen to have any you can spare?


GravatarThen there's that papal bull...


GravatarWhat I want ot know is why do a bunch of cows in a field all face the same direction?
-- The Old Man From Scene 24

If they face into the wind, it helps keep the flies out of their eyes.


GravatarI hate DST with a passion. It's one of the little things that drove me into politics, no lie.


I remember when I was a kid, seeing a response to a letter my almost entirely apolitical dad wrote (actually, apparently, there was more than one) to our coungressman demanding changes in DST. He was neither for or against, but as an engineer he was outraged that it was not symmetrical vis-a-vis the equinoxes.

As I recall, the switch from Standard to Daylight Savings used to be later in April? Still ain't symmetrical, but closer than it used to be. Perhaps dear old dad showed it to The Man.

My introduction to politics ...


GravatarI had a cat that caught a bat in mid-flight once. And had no intention of relenquishing his prize to me, his "WTF was that?!?" master.


GravatarWhat? Squirrels are Executive Rats?


GravatarRe: Angry Bovines

one time in my mad youth, i volunteered to try to ride a bull in a tiny community (Guadalupita, NM, 1972, pop. 200 mas o menos) rodeo.

it wasn't even a real rodeo bull. but that is not to say it was placid with its genitals tightly wrapped with a leather strap, the other end of which is part of the rigging to which the rider clings.

i did not 'ride' that animal in any meaningful sense. it would be a fatal disservice to anyone who has actually ridden a bucking bull to put my accomplishment in that category.

i remember nodding to the clown holding the gate to the chute, and then i was on the ground, writhing and gasping for breath, while the bull capered off into the pen at the end of the arena.

it was not a thing i ever ventured again...


GravatarGeorge Bernard Shaw's mother was killed by an enraged cow on a family picnic.

Was this the cow? ...
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendi...ndix/ hellcw.htm


GravatarErr, more than one letter, not more than one dad ... but boy misplaced modifiers sure can be funny, can't they?


GravatarThey have the keys to the washroom, don't they, Nur?


GravatarNur al-Cubicle,

No, it was an old country highway, but I suppose it wouldn't have made any difference to the cattle involved.

Man, I wish I would have had a video camera.


GravatarI used to own a cow (it was birthday present from my grandma). She was very smart except that she ate some iron nails and then died.

I'm sorry to hear about your grandma.





(I was unable to resist making that joke, though I tried.)


GravatarThe cows my aunt had were interesting to observe. Lots of human-type jockeying for power, lots of close friendships between just a few cows and then hatred between the cliques. And when the heifers went into heat they'd mount each other cheerfully.


GravatarSo the squirrels and the bovine are in this together. Hmmmnn, the plot thickens, do you think they had anything to do with the Pope expiring? Terri Schiavo's passing?


GravatarI've told this story before, but years ago I witnessed 5 cows walk out of the back of a trailer as it travelled down the road at 50 mph.

The fifth cow must have been a real dumbass.


GravatarCattle are dumb sometimes... usually when you're trying to put them back in the same hole in the fence they snuck out of to get in the neighbor's cornfield...

A while back, there were three bachelor brothers who lived and farmed together into their 70's... a beef bull charged one of them and put him in the hospital. While he was there, the other two went to load the bull up and sell him- the bull killed both of them...when they told the one in the hospital, he told the neighbor or sheriff (I forget which) to shoot the bull. I sometimes wonder what became of that guy...


GravatarMakes sense Toonscribe.

When I smoke dried herbs I use a little ceramic pipe.


GravatarRichard, looking at that webpage, my favorite part is "Additions/Corrections? please let me know."

at the bottom of the page.... lol


GravatarThersites. I deserved that one. My grandma would have loved it, too.


Gravatari did not 'ride' that animal in any meaningful sense. it would be a fatal disservice to anyone who has actually ridden a bucking bull to put my accomplishment in that category.

Not to brag or anything, but I am totally kickass in the squirrel rodeos.


GravatarHELLCOW

Real Name: Bessie


WTF???? you people need help


GravatarSo I come in here rhapsodizing about Katie Holmes (and Sarah Polley) and now it's all cows.

Well.

I say, "Spring back and fall forward".


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GravatarSarducci may once again be suffering from post-papal depression.


GravatarDST? I question the timing.


Gravatar"I've already had those beady-eyed bastards invade me house. I don't need cows running about my attick.
"

Well, the first thing to do is find and close any holes the cows could use to get into your attic.


GravatarThe fifth cow must have been a real dumbass.

It was from Texas, Crawford to be exact, where it lived on a fake "ranch".


GravatarWait... I missed the Katie Holmes and Sarah Polley discussions. Crap.


GravatarThe fifth cow must have been a real dumbass.
Dinty Moore -- 12:49 am



yup...musta been a Republicown


GravatarMy grandma would have loved it, too.

hee hee. She must have been quite the character, bless her.


GravatarThe fifth cow was a junior GOP sort that listened to the four senior GOP cows say "Trust me"


GravatarThings have been a bit weird here lately, suddenly it feels normal again.


GravatarOops didn't see that GMTA moment WGG.


GravatarJohn Entwistle.....ahhh...I've played bass for ten years and have just recently been able to masterfully play My Generation


GravatarBtw, if you put "mad fucking cow" into Google, you get this at the top.

Ubersite

Warning, Ann Coulter is a veangeful Princess....


GravatarAnimal Acrobatics

One of the most fascinating sports i've ever seen is cutting-horse competitions...


GravatarToby, is cow sex as good as human sex?


just asking....


GravatarThe fifth cow was known as "Joementum" to her herdmates...


GravatarSpeaking of John Entwistle (somebody was upthread), I found this story about his girlfriend's recent death. Lisa Pritchett-Johnson, 43. Grief and drugs are a bad combination.


GravatarDon't know about all you luddites, but over half my clocks link to some kind of server, so if my cable company gets it straight this time, I should get away with 3 clock changes (IKEA wall clock, clock radio and car).
Official time here


Gravatarcutting-horse competitions


Glad I know what you are talking about in that line.


Gravataryo


GravatarEkCenTriK sez:

Well, the first thing to do is find and close any holes the cows could use to get into your attic.

No, those are the mice.

Let me move this chair...


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GravatarWould that be an 8"+ cutting-horse?


GravatarCrossing things Python and cow-related, did you know you can buy your very own Cow-tapult?


GravatarCutting horse... isn't that adding baking soda to heroin to increase its volume?

Like cutting cocain.


GravatarShrub is going to privatize Daylight Savings.


GravatarSpeaking of John Entwistle (somebody was upthread), I found this story about his girlfriend's recent death. Lisa Pritchett-Johnson, 43. Grief and drugs are a bad combination.
TheOtherWashington

*looks like she finished off the rest of his stash..and since I'm feeling cruel:
http://durrrrr.blogspot.com/


GravatarNur-al--executive rats, rats with executive hair, eh, what's the difference?


GravatarJeffco

That would perfect for me to just leave on the desk at work. Conversations ought to be interesting.


GravatarCome learn the history of daylight saving, from Benjamin Franklin to the present...

Just as sunflowers turn their heads to catch every sunbeam, so too have we discovered a simple way to get more from our sun.

We've learned to save energy and enjoy sunny summer evenings by switching our clocks an hour forward in the summer.

Link


GravatarCutting horse... isn't that adding baking soda to heroin to increase its volume?

Like cutting cocain.
VAN


Baking soda? are you nuts?

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GravatarSorry, I should have linked here for the cowtapult. It also comes with ducks and sheep!


Gravatar"executive rats, rats with executive hair"

Makes me think of an Eddie Izzard routine.


GravatarWell I've never done it! I just know that baking soda or some extra medium is added to all kinds of illegal pwders to increase its volume and street price.


GravatarEntwistle's girlfriend "slept with a casket containing his ashes"?

It seems like people are very intent on denying the reality of death these days.


GravatarDID YOU KNOW:

At a point in history, some countrys would spring ahead two hours.

Everybody knows that bigger is better. I say we spring ahead 5 hours. Think of all the time we will save, and how cool everyone will think we are.

Who is the SUN to say what we do?
HUH?

-eric: Revolutionary


GravatarBaking soda? are you nuts?

Baking powder? They're so easily confused...


GravatarGlad I know what you are talking about in that line.
EkCenTriK | -- 12:57 am


as toonscribe noticed, it is a term fraught with unintentional ambiguity...

the real thing is, however, the closest you'll ever get to a horse having the kind of fun even the dullest human can recognize; they'll actually smile...


GravatarMoo.

(It had to be said. Or lowed.)


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GravatarHow much of the baking soda that is sold is actually used in baking anything?


GravatarI just know that baking soda or some extra medium is added to all kinds of illegal pwders to increase its volume and street price.

Back in the day I bought some coke that was cut with fucking powdered sugar.

25 years later, I'm still pissed about that transaction.


GravatarJeffCO--I should try to sign them on for tomorrow's Troll Chow Breakfast Buffet as a sponsor


GravatarI bought some weed once that was just pencil shavings. I was very, very young.


Gravatarspork_incident

Basic cow speak, or achieving your message for the lowest common demoominator.


GravatarI bought some weed once that was just pencil shavings. I was very, very young.
VAN


Very, very something.


GravatarBack in the day I bought some coke that was cut with fucking powdered sugar.

25 years later, I'm still pissed about that transaction.


Can't exactly go pounding on the front door of the White House right now, though.... hey, what's 3 more years?


GravatarHeya, moonbats!


GravatarDon't know about all you luddites, but over half my clocks link to some kind of server, so if my cable company gets it straight this time, I should get away with 3 clock changes (IKEA wall clock, clock radio and car).

Humph! Luddites eh? Here in Boulder, the NIST lab implanted all the residents with time chips for free a few years back. At least that's what they said they were. Anyway, now I don't even wear a watch!

OTOH, I think it may have strangled up my mind - now people just get uglier, and I have no sense of time.


Gravatar"Karl, tell him I'm not here"


GravatarShrub is going to privatize Daylight Savings.

At this point its a moooot point.


GravatarIs "Moody" what you call a pre-mensmooal female bovine???


GravatarRipley,

That's hilarious, because the guy's name was George.

He pulled the old bait-and-switch on me.


Gravatarouch


GravatarThat's funny...I once sold some pencil shavings as dope. Hmmmmm?


GravatarJeff, please report to Control immediately.

"Looks like someone needs a little reNEDucation!"


GravatarBMR, ever sell to stupid 13 year old kids in the Western NY area?


GravatarGood night, moonbats and freethinkers. See you tomorrow, an hour earlier than moosual.

I cud not help myself.


GravatarMooYawk Mary in the hizzouse!


GravatarThat's funny...I once sold some pencil shavings as dope. Hmmmmm?
BMR -- 1:10 am


in the day, i both bought and sold oregano as weed...


GravatarThe death of the Pope is a mooomentous occasion.


GravatarRev. Terry Fox is coming up on my local channel right now.

I'll keep ya'll posted.

(He's Rush behind a pulpit, with a frighteningly large congregation.)


GravatarActually, I'm more of a Fuddite.
E-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-eh!


GravatarWhen a cow refuses to laugh, would you say it was not amoosed?


GravatarEkCenTriK sez:

Basic cow speak, or achieving your message for the lowest common demoominator.

Yeah. [I see trails!] [the cow's speak}.


.


GravatarDID YOU KNOW:

At a point in history, some countrys would spring ahead two hours.

Everybody knows that bigger is better. I say we spring ahead 5 hours. Think of all the time we will save, and how cool everyone will think we are.

Who is the SUN to say what we do?
HUH?

-eric: Revolutionary


GravatarIs a cattle truck a mooooving van?


GravatarWhen a cow refuses to laugh, would you say it was not amoosed?

I cud'nt even guess....


Gravatarin the day, i both bought and sold oregano as weed...

I once smoked oregano, remembering a David Cassidy movie that said it smelled like pot when burned.

There were really no serious effffffffffffffffects that I can recccccccccccccal


GravatarGRRR OI hate laying in bed waiting for sleep!!!


Gravatarchange your clocks

go forward
move ahead
try to detect it
it's not too late
to whip it
whip it good


GravatarRev. Terry Fox is coming up on my local channel right now.

I'll keep ya'll posted.

(He's Rush behind a pulpit, with a frighteningly large congregation.)
Central Scrutinizer


Too bad he's got the same name as that awesome kid who tried to walk across Canada with a prosthetic leg a coupla decades ago to raise money for cancer research.


GravatarWhen a cow refuses to laugh, would you say it was not amoosed?
WoodyGsGuitar/Happy Desparado
__________________________________
Cows cannot talk. Therfore, your point is moo.


GravatarHow much of the baking soda that is sold is actually used in baking anything?

I once tried to make baking soda at home. Eight 2-liter bottles of Coke for 45 minutes at 450 degrees.

The results were not encouraging.


GravatarWhen a cow refuses to laugh, would you say it was not amoosed?

I cud'nt even guess....


I hoof an idea about that.


GravatarIf a cow were to walk across Canada with a prosthetic leg, then she would be very mootivated.


GravatarHad a drink with kent today, Believe me, meeting Eschatonians in real space and time is a wonderful, wonderful experience.


GravatarRev. Fox, re Schiavo:

"Culture of death, culture of death right there on television. Death is entertainment now."


GravatarI smoked instant coffee in college once. A bunch of us were conducting a series of carefully controlled lab experiments.


GravatarMooYawk Mary in the hizzouse!

No, Indianapolis.


GravatarCow jokes are stooopid.

-eric Revolutionary


GravatarFor the second time, goodnight.

Happy DST to all! May you wake up early!


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GravatarI once smoked oregano.

I think we've all been there. I smoked oregano once laced with PCP. That was one of the strangest nights of my life. I actually could not tell up from down, hey... when you think about it, it's kinda like our present administration, maybe they're all on PCP?!?


GravatarI hoof an idea about that.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |


It would, however, be udderly ridiculous...


GravatarThis thread is getting udderly ridiculous.


GravatarCows think that George W. Bush is a mooooron.


GravatarNew stuff, in between finishing up third Wonderfalls DVD:

Goodbye, England's Rose; Or, The Death (And Coverage Thereof) of Pope John Paul II:
April Foolishness

Catch HBO's Left Of The Dial....and get ready to fumble:
Err America


GravatarLest I forget, from the TMBG vaults:

Cowtown
I'm going down to Cowtown
The cow's a friend to me
Lives beneath the ocean and that's where I will be
Beneath the waves, the waves
And that's where I will be
I'm gonna see the cow beneath the sea

The yellow Roosevelt Avenue leaf overturned
The ardor of arboreality is an adventure we have spurned, we've spurned
A new leaf overturned
It's a new leaf overturned

And so I'm going down to Cowtown
The cow's a friend to me
Lives beneath the ocean and that's where I will be
Beneath the waves, the waves
And that's where I will be
I'm gonna see the cow beneath the sea

We yearn to swim for home, but our only home is bone
How sleepless is the egg knowing that which throws the stone
Foresees the bone, the bone
Our only home is bone
Our only home is bone

And so I'm going down to Cowtown
The cow's a friend to me
Lives beneath the ocean and that's where I will be
Beneath the waves, the waves
And that's where I will be
I'm gonna see the cow beneath the sea

Yes I'm going down to Cowtown
The cow's a friend to me
Lives beneath the ocean and that's where I will be
Beneath the waves, the waves
And that's where I will be
I'm gonna see the cow beneath the sea
Yes I'm gonna see (I'm gonna see)
The cow (the cow)
Beneath the
sea...


GravatarExcept for kent, I dislike Indianapolis.


Just sayin'...


GravatarCow jokes are stooopid.

-eric Revolutionary
eric -- 1:20 am


Mooooronic, actually...


GravatarIf a cow were to walk across Canada with a prosthetic leg, then she would be very mootivated.
VAN
_____________________________________
She'd just keep circling, constantly ending up in Windsor.


GravatarI had a college friend who opined that all cows were all stupid because when he honked at them while driving by, they never looked. One day as we approached a herd of cows I noticed before he did that they were running towards the fence. I said "honk, cows!" - and he was convinced they were running towards us. "Those are SMART cows," he said.


GravatarI smoked instant coffee in college once.

"Instant coffee's gonna gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you’re gonna be dead"


GravatarI'm angus to steer the conversation Elsiewhere, because you people are milking the topic dry.


GravatarYes Mrs. Bovine, this handly device will let you clean up the pasture in no time at all. We are quite proud of the Hoofer Vacuum.


GravatarI'm not trying to steer the conversation but wouldn't it behoof us to lay off the cow puns?

I have no beef with anyone here, of course...


GravatarNYM?

Didja get to the cowboy art museum? that usta be quite cool, iirc, with the running horse sculptures in the reflecting pond?
...also, there's a renovated Union Station that was once a highlight (mild irony)...

just wondering?


GravatarRipley hits the 3-pointer!


GravatarHeywood J.,
XTC apparnetly loomed large in the Wonderwalls Catalog.


GravatarWe're trying to milk the cow thing for all its worth.


GravatarWHere did this cow thing start anyway?


GravatarI'm not trying to steer the conversation but wouldn't it behoof us to lay off the cow puns?

I have no beef with anyone here, of course...


I've been ruminanting on that. And I agree -- these puns are making me sick to all four of my stomachs.


GravatarI'm angus to steer the conversation Elsiewhere, because you people are milking the topic dry.
Dinty Moore
____________________________________
Angus fucking rocks!


GravatarHey, one way or the heifer, I don't mind...

Oh hell, that's just Bad....


GravatarI have no cow puns.


GravatarI'm not trying to steer the conversation but wouldn't it behoof us to lay off the cow puns?

Well, I guess we cud.


GravatarI don't like Indianapolis. I go there for the Formula One race and the bastard hotels quadruple their rates for that weekend. Its moost annoying.


Gravatarquit while you're aherd, ripley


GravatarWHere did this cow thing start anyway?

Oh Lord. Break out the diagrams...


GravatarBe careful, what you say about cows...

Just saying..


Toby, what's the secret of good cow sex? is it the foreplay? or the mooooves, you put on them?


GravatarI agree with Ripley, anyone with cow jokes should Scat now Elsie we will have to take the bull by the horns and make you stop milking this whole thread for what it is worth. Go ahead I am Dairying you to pull another cow pun.


Gravatarkobe or not kobe...

what a silly question.


GravatarYes sir omasum, whatever you say.


Gravatarmoo?


GravatarI have no cow puns.

"Yippeee aye a... ____ ______!"


GravatarWHere did this cow thing start anyway?
VAN -- 1:26 am


i think it was Heiffer Sutherland's idea...or JenHeiffer Beales?


GravatarI guess Eli is not in the moood for puns tonite.


GravatarBe-cud-s of you, Thers, I'll put these puns out to pasture.

You guys smell BBQ?


GravatarOh Lord. Break out the diagrams...
Thersites


It would take us until the cows come home to figure it out now.


GravatarHere's a weird one, if a cow went to the zoo, wouldn't she just be going to the moo?


GravatarYou've got to mmmmooooooooove way back to Ripley's post about rather seeing one than being one. And this is one of the most hilarious threads I've read.


GravatarOr if she got the flu... she got the moo.


GravatarThese puns are getting really cheesy.


GravatarJust so long as we keep the lemurs out of it.


GravatarI have no cow puns.

Or cow pies, I should hope.

Hey, rorshach will be encouraging us to go looking closely at cow pies this summer.


GravatarBefore my involuntary celibacy, I liked blow jobs just fine, but they never went anywhere.

But what I really miss is making women wish they were my own tongue.


GravatarI have no cow puns.

And yet, you have us...

nevermind....


GravatarI have no cow puns. NYMary

Know when cowpuns are a bitch? When you have to slide them in one at a time in the self-serve checkout lane.


GravatarI have no cow puns. NYMary

Veal let you stay anyway.


Gravatarkobe or not kobe...
.
rorschach -- 1:29 am


what is the Pre and Post-earthquake condition of this Japanese city?


GravatarBarn it! Isn't it pasture bedtime, Thers?


GravatarI guess Eli is not in the moood for puns tonite.

Not cow puns anymoo. I'm sure he's out horsing around somewhere.


GravatarWell, it's Sunday, so I guess everyone's clipping cowpuns. Or at least I wish they would.


GravatarTime begins and then time ends,
And then time begins once again.
It is happening now,
it has happened before,
It will surely happen again.


GravatarHumble bow to Rory for the kobe pun....


Gravatar
Hey, rorshach will be encouraging us to go looking closely at cow pies this summer.


Actually, late spring is the best time. Early May, 4 AM, moonlight, cows, and fresh psilocybin. Ah yes.


GravatarYou may be high, you may be low,
You may be rich, child, or maybe poor.
But when the Lord get ready,
You got to moo.


GravatarWith all the puns running around here all I can say for you folks is "Manure wasted!"


GravatarOoooh, The Octagon is on. What a really great horrible movie!


GravatarHay, clover here are some new puns, man.Ure into it, right?


Gravatarmakin' puns is herd, its herd work.


GravatarWith all the puns running around here all I can say for you folks is "Manure wasted!"


Ding fuckin ding! That's Grade A, my friend...


GravatarI'm sure he's out horsing around somewhere.

Probably without the least bit of cowpunction.


GravatarWhoopi just made an observation on Mahar that I had not heard before - I liked it: During Michael and Terri's wedding didn't her father "give her away"?


Gravatar
Not cow puns anymoo. I'm sure he's out horsing around somewhere.


Yep, he's on the lamb. (Sorry, that was baaaaad)


GravatarActually, late spring is the best time. Early May, 4 AM, moonlight, cows, and fresh psilocybin. Ah yes.

Not sure that's true in our climate. Research is required.


Gravatarhave no cow puns.
NYMary 04.03.05 - 1:27 am


Thank you.

-eric Revolutionary


GravatarWhat a really great horrible movie!

I'm watching "Dead Alive" for the first time.

This guy went on to do "Lord of the Rings"?

Yowza.


Gravatarmakin' puns is herd, its herd work

Ding fucking ding again! lmao

I'm not worthy....


GravatarWell I think I will cease and desist before things get squirrely around. The cows are bad enough.


GravatarActually, late spring is the best time. Early May, 4 AM, moonlight, cows, and fresh psilocybin. Ah yes.
rorschach -- 1:34 am


In Wash.State, they started putting fungicides in all ag feeds about 1980 to prevent the spawning of 'shrooms in pastures. Folks would absolutely swarm through dairy pastures, as soon as the sun was up. folks'd camp-out to be up and at 'em in notoriously productive sites all over the Puget Sound area...


Gravatar
Not sure that's true in our climate. Research is required.


Indeed. I'm speaking as a Southern boy, who's only done Southern shrooming.


GravatarWell, early in the mornin'
'Til late at night,
I got a poison headache,
But I feel all right.
I'm pledging my time to you,
Hopin' you'll come through, too.


Gravatar"Yep, he's on the lamb. (Sorry, that was baaaaad)
rorschach"

Mooooo
Hissssss


Rancid.


GravatarI'm watching "Dead Alive" for the first time.


Ha Ha. Wait until the lawnmower scene!


GravatarKnow what I hate about Catholicism? All the sacred cows. And the Dogma.


Gravatar"Well, that would make me stupid -- and you a whore!"

Ah, Chuck Norris. Only a truly great actor could deliver a line like that.


GravatarHaven't people milked this cow thing about as much as humanly possible?


GravatarWell, I've put in my 2% into this whole Pet project. The rest of you just skimmed the cheesy surface.


GravatarNow you see this one-eyed midget
Shouting the word "NOW"
And you say, "For what reason?"
And he says, "How?"
And you say, "What does this mean?"
And he screams back, "You're a cow
Give me some milk
Or else go home"

Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?


GravatarWell I think I will cease and desist before things get squirrely around. The cows are bad enough.

Yeah, might be wise to steer clear, and perhaps await a brand new thread.

Folks would absolutely swarm through dairy pastures, as soon as the sun was up.

Um, pay attention. Not swarm, "stampede."


GravatarI'm not going to steak my reputation on this cow thread but I hope I can tickle a few ribs.


GravatarI once did a story on a rodeo class in a local high school in this small Florida town where I worked after college. They had a training bull the kids could ride on. The coach asked me if I'd ever rode a bull and in learning that I hadn't, asked me if I wanted to ride the training bull. I said, sure, and went out to buy the damn $45 leather glove thing you gotta have so your hand doesn't get all torn up.

What happened was, I got on the bull, the coach walked the bull out into the ring and the bull just stood there. Needless to say, I was let down a bit...until the coach told his dog, "Git 'em, Bill", whereupon Bill the dog bit the training bull somewhere in the testicle region.

I don't remember much after that, but I think the coach did it to me on purpose.


GravatarAh, goddddd, the fresh psilocybin cap... a drug for the connoisseur

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

.


Gravatar"Yep, he's on the lamb. (Sorry, that was baaaaad)
rorschach"

Mooooo
Hissssss


Rancid.


You shouldn't be so, shall I say, jerky.


GravatarI'm not going to steak my reputation on this cow thread but I hope I can tickle a few ribs.
Ripley


Your flanking manuevers have proven worthwhile. Sir,loin me a few pointers please.


GravatarA cat's meow and a cow's moo, I can recite 'em all,
Just tell me where it hurts yuh, honey,
And I'll tell you who to call.
Nobody can get no sleep,
There's someone on ev'ryone's toes
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here,
Ev'rybody's gonna wanna doze.
Come all without, come all within,
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn.


GravatarThe rest of you just skimmed the cheesy surface.

So, dairy products are on the table now?

That's gouda you.


GravatarKnow what I hate about Catholicism? All the sacred cows. And the Dogma.
-BMR

Well the pope is dead now, I hope your happy.

-eric: Revolutionary


GravatarI smell barbecue.


GravatarBackslider


ROFL


GravatarBest cowpost:

I agree with Ripley, anyone with cow jokes should Scat now Elsie we will have to take the bull by the horns and make you stop milking this whole thread for what it is worth. Go ahead I am Dairying you to pull another cow pun.


GravatarKnow what I hate about Catholicism? All the sacred cows. And the Dogma.
-BMR

Well the pope is dead now, I hope your happy.


Ummm... eric, that post was the funniest cow pun of them all. You moost not have a sense of humor.


Gravatarthe fresh psilocybin cap... a drug for the connoisseur

No shit. My thirtieth is coming up and a buddy of mine is getting me a half-ounce of some serious lab grown stuff. So people ask, "Matt, what special are you gonna do for your birthday" and I tell I'm goin' off to see the wizard for a couple days.


GravatarWell the pope is dead now, I hope your happy.

Remember him fondly as he rides into the sunset, for he was an old cowpope at heart.


GravatarBackSlider that reminded me of an employee who "paid" to bull ride here. I didn't know they had these private bull riding clubs or such. He was explaining all the gear they have. When he got to the Kevlar vest to protect them when they get stomped, I put bull riding into the Darwin Awards group. Course the guy was a bit weird already. He gave me ample opportunity to remove that weirdness from the department at a later point.


GravatarKnow what I hate about Catholicism? All the sacred cows. And the Dogma.
-BMR

Well the pope is dead now, I hope your happy.
eric
_____________________________________
Pope's been dead since 4pm or so. I've been happy since '85 when I downed my first psilocybin.


GravatarBecuds SciFi was showing Apollo 13, we were stampeded into watching


Gravatarmoovies that were not so cheesy. (Damn cat).


GravatarBackslider...I hate you.


It's nice to share.


GravatarKnow what I hate about Catholicism? All the sacred cows. And the Dogma.
-BMR

Well the pope is dead now, I hope your happy.


Abbatoir has his soul gone? That is the question..


GravatarWell, its time for me to hit the hay.


Gravatareric,

You've got a few things to learn about blogwhoring.

Your grammer could use some work too.


GravatarSo, dairy products are on the table now?

I have this incredible sense of deja mooo, so, in as brie-f,
stiltoned prose as I can fromage, beware the Kurds...and goodnight, one and all...


GravatarUmmm... eric, that post was the funniest cow pun of them all. You moost not have a sense of humor.
The Old Man From Scene 24


HAHAHA... I am ready for a new thread.

-eric: Revolutionary


Gravatar"Your grammer could use some work too."

Spellcheck, Central. It's your friend.

Grammar


GravatarSome folks get a little moody on these threads, leather it's warranted or not.


Again, that was so Bad...


Gravatareric,

You've got a few things to learn about blogwhoring.


Indeed, but teasing trolls is calf the fun!


GravatarSpellcheck, Central. It's your friend.

Irony. It's your jealous mistress.


GravatarI don't have much to say about cows... except that they're delicious.


GravatarTime to make shroom for more acid humor. Be careful to trip on your way out.


GravatarWell onwards, my mootivation is waning and I would stay and hang out if I could find a whey, butter rising early is a problem here. So I guess I will hit the hay and let my thoughts churn about in my dreams.

So niters folks


GravatarGotta go mooooooove my clocks forward an hour.


Gravatardeja mooo ?!?! WTF, over...


Time for bed, goodnite moonbats, you have no idea how much I appreciate just knowing that your there.

Peaceout....


GravatarThey had a training bull the kids could ride on. The coach asked me if I'd ever rode a bull and in learning that I hadn't, asked me if I wanted to ride the training bull. I said, sure

I went to exactly two rodeos in my life, both in Florida. The thing that impressed me the most was that you could buy beer in something like 45-ounce tubs. And that during the national anthem, there were guys holding these immense beer containers with one hand and holding their giant hats over their hearts with the other. Just big men holding big things: America.


GravatarNite Ek.


GravatarAbbatoir has his soul gone? That is the question..

Again, Rory... humble bow... that was a good one... (and a crappy death metal band from the 80's)


GravatarI hate daylight saving time too.


Wouldn't it make more sense to do it in the winter when it gets dark so early?



Or better yet, let's not fuck with the clocks at all.


GravatarFourLegs--how're you tonight?


GravatarYes, my grammer could use some work....

She's older than the pope.


GravatarAnd that during the national anthem, there were guys holding these immense beer containers with one hand and holding their giant hats over their hearts with the other.


Ack. And I'm sure they were feeling damn patriotic too.


GravatarThe grave of Karl Marx is just another Communist plot.


GravatarOr better yet, let's not fuck with the clocks at all. fourlegsgood

Would you rather cluck with the fox, Rev. Spooner?


GravatarFourlegsgood. Fourstomachsbetter.


GravatarAbbatoir has his soul gone? That is the question..

Again, Rory... humble bow... that was a good one... (and a crappy death metal band from the 80's)


Humble bow in return. I do what I can, my friend.


GravatarI went to a Bears game last December and people were literally looking around to check hats and hands during the Nat'l Anthem.

All I could think was, "Sing, asshole! Stop worrying about my fucking hat and wave at the camera!"


GravatarI don't have much to say about cows... except that they're delicious.

Really!

(Grabbing knife, fork, A1, heading across the street into the pasture)


Gravatarsally, tired. Had to go to a work cocktail party tonight.


Now I'm ticked about DST.


GravatarAck. And I'm sure they were feeling damn patriotic too.
fourlegsgood


Out of pure respect, they held in their 5 second T-Rex belches until after the home of the brave.


Gravatar"She's older than the pope."
Central Scrutinizer

Hopefully not deader.


GravatarOr better yet, let's not fuck with the clocks at all.

God no. I learned that the hard way. Those little gears really chew up your pubic hair.


GravatarReally!


It's true!


Perhaps you should get Hecate to whip you up a lightning storm first- they're better cooked.


Gravatar(Grabbing knife, fork, A1, heading across the street into the pasture)
Thersites

A1. It's that important.


GravatarYou have pubic hair?

Gillete.... sure it sounds French but....


GravatarFourlegsgood. Fourstomachsbetter.



Now you guys are making puns of my name.


I shall smite you all with mah superpowers!!


Gravatar(Grabbing knife, fork, A1, heading across the street into the pasture) Thersites

Aren't you full after eating the giant blancmange?


GravatarGod no. I learned that the hard way. Those little gears really chew up your pubic hair.

And don't even ask what happens if the alarm goes off!


GravatarDid we just hit DST or is HaloClock messing with my mind?


GravatarUmmm... eric, that post was the funniest cow pun of them all. You moost not have a sense of humor.
The Old Man From Scene 24


HAHAHA... I am ready for a new thread.

-eric: Revolutionary


GravatarA1. It's that important.


Actually, any decent liberal would prefer Heinz 57.


Gravatar"I shall smite you all with mah superpowers!!"
fourlegsgood

Why waste it on us? How about smiting Robertson, Falwell, Phelps, Dobson et al?


GravatarGoddamn it! Enough with the cow puns.

Sorry, didn't mean to carpaccio.


GravatarActually, any decent liberal would prefer Heinz 57.

Does she have a younger sister?


GravatarAnd don't even ask what happens if the alarm goes off!
Ring my be-e-e-el
Ring mybell


GravatarHAHAHA... I am ready for a new thread.

-eric
_______________________________-

I have to believe this the TAIL end of this one.


GravatarWE JUST WENT FROM 1:59 to 3:00.

That was way more anticlimatic than the newyear.


GravatarWhy waste it on us? How about smiting Robertson, Falwell, Phelps, Dobson et al?


I thought I'd practice first.


GravatarThersites,
Like everyone else apparently, old cowboys go to Florida to die. This little town I mention - Williston - is a serious horse town. It's also one of those towns that's just big enough to take seriously (civil leagues, McDonald's, colored pamphlets and whatnot) but still small enough where there's only so many people to go around. There was a lot of crossover, in other words, like during halftime half the football team and a couple cheerleaders would play with the marching band, that sort of thing. The homecoming queen took second in calf roping in state and dipped Coppenhagen when she went hunting. The mayor's nickname was "Fuzzy" and that appeared on the ballot. At the high school talent show, 12 different acts did "Wind Beneath My Wings" and one kid did a lasso act.

It makes a stone country boy weep, I tell ya.


GravatarSorry, didn't mean to carpaccio. -rorschach

I am humbled in your presence.


GravatarThat was way more anticlimatic than the newyear.
eric


It's anticlimatic. It hates the change of seasons.


GravatarTo err is human; to moo bovine.


GravatarAnd I'm sure they were feeling damn patriotic too

At the time I thought it was just kind of interesting. And frankly I was doing the same thing. Look, I get sentimental about a nation that can invent the 45-ounce beer.


GravatarAnd the best part of rodeo is after the cowboy gets thrown from the bull. He always does that agitated walk back to wherever they go, always shooting the bull dirty looks over his should, like he's seriously contemplating going back and whippin' that cow's ass.

And I'd believe they could do it, too. Bikers and sure'nuff cowboys are two groups of folks I wouldn't mess with if my life depended on it.


Gravatarsally, I thought I'd practice.


GravatarMy sister's family lived in MT for a few years. There are kids out there getting full college scholarships in rodeo, I kid you not.

MT, UT, CO, WY... they's crazy for the horses, they is....


GravatarCluck with the fox? Cluck with the fox?
Ah HA! Poultry in motion. Turn forward the hens of time.


GravatarI hate haloscan.


GravatarFeeling peckish, Sidhra?


GravatarHaloscan must have been down for awhile.


GravatarWell, bedtime for these four legs.


GravatarAnticlimactic


Gravatar"sally, I thought I'd practice.'
fourlegsgood

Practice on NTodd. He's missing and it's been hours since he posted a new Sam pic.


Gravatar Bikers and sure'nuff cowboys are two groups of folks I wouldn't mess with if my life depended on it.
Backslider


Nor any of the 16 clowns willing to cram into a VW and drive it.


GravatarCluck with the fox? Cluck with the fox?
Ah HA! Poultry in motion. Turn forward the hens of time.


Cue all the cock jokes you can imagine, and more.


GravatarWhat, rory, we're just going to wattle into these fowl jokes and scratch around for a laugh?

Please.....


GravatarHe always does that agitated walk back to wherever they go, always shooting the bull dirty looks over his should, like he's seriously contemplating going back and whippin' that cow's ass.

I noticed that! I liked very much the way bravado was so quickly manufactured out of "goddamn do my nuts hurt."


GravatarCue all the cock jokes you can imagine, and more.


Do these pants make my pecker look big?


GravatarRorschach--not to be rude, but I have a question for you: what are you doing here in the barnyard when you've got such a gorgeous bride nearby?


GravatarNor any of the 16 clowns willing to cram into a VW and drive it.
Dinty Moore | Email | Homepage | 04.03.05 - 3:09 am | #


Well, yeah...don't fight with crazy people, that's sort of what I was getting at. It's like, "Hey, this guy gets on 2,000-pound bulls - animals not noted for their easy-going nature in the first place - and jabs 'em in the side on purpose, as in no one's making him, and you wanna tangle with him?"

If a guy does shit like that to himself on his own, he's not gonna be to concerned about what gets done to you in the process of adjusting your attitude.


GravatarWell, bedtime for these four legs.
fourlegsgood
________________________________
Dunno how you do that sleep standing up thing but I promise not to tip you over tonte.


GravatarJust hanging about the roost looking for another cock and bull story. I think I may be chicken out, though. I'd like to get some shuteye before the rooster crows.
Too bad about Frank Perdue. Tough man, that.


GravatarI'm not a fan of bullfighting but it puts a bit of a point to our cowboys, doesn't it?

Not that I'd climb on a bull at my age, mind you....


GravatarAnd I'm sure they were feeling damn patriotic too

Any Robyn Hitchcock fans around?

How do you know when you've gone too far?
Look in the mirror, that's where you are
People go by on their legs and their hands
Bury their heads in the evening sands

I gave America my blood and she drank it gratefully
I told America her weight and she said you'd wait for me
All of me


GravatarI noticed that! I liked very much the way bravado was so quickly manufactured out of "goddamn do my nuts hurt."
Thersites


9 years old...bike....pedaling hard...foot slipping...metal bar...laying in ditch...can't breathe


GravatarDunno how you do that sleep standing up thing but I promise not to tip you over tonte.
BMR


Lmao


GravatarRorschach--not to be rude, but I have a question for you: what are you doing here in the barnyard when you've got such a gorgeous bride nearby?

Matter o' fact, we are nesting comfortably tonight. My chick is three feet from me, and we're watching a movie, and she's playing Civilization, her most severe addiction.


GravatarYou know, the daylight savings account is going to go into deficit in 2018 so we need to establish some private daylight savings accounts before the whole daylight system breaks and we all go into that perpetual twilight....


GravatarThis little town I mention - Williston - is a serious horse town.

Florida's weird like that, or at least South Florida. I'm for the moment blanking on the name of the town where I saw the rodeo, but it was only about 45 minutes north of Miami -- and the McDonald's had a hitching post in front of it. And five minutes east was a retirement community of sterotypical proportions, and just south of that, well, North Cuba.

Florida: a state of highly disparate residents of all nationalities and backgrounds, all united in their lack of sensible building codes and their unwillingness to signal lane changes.


GravatarDo these pants make my pecker look big?
Central Scrutinizer
_____________________________________
Don't be silly. Your pecker makes the pants look small.


GravatarThersites,
I've already seen a monster truck completely fall apart after winning a race, several fallen country stars drunker than piss singing golden oldies at the VFW, and more than one rassler lose his drawers thanks to a mis-laid body slam, so I think the sole observance I'd like to make in this is life is a rodeo cowboy actually going up to a bull that threw him and knocking the fucker flat out, a la Mongo in Blazing Saddles.

I think I could die contented in knowledge that I've seen all things that I need to see, then.


GravatarAnticlimactic


GravatarI noticed that! I liked very much the way bravado was so quickly manufactured out of "goddamn do my nuts hurt."
Thersites

9 years old...bike....pedaling hard...foot slipping...metal bar...laying in ditch...can't breathe


13-ish.. Swim Team... changing in the changing area... turned around... at the Wrongest moment... caught a towel-snap-to-the-ass on the tip of... wee Master Ripley... something about pain and veangence and suffering...

I forget the rest....


GravatarAny Robyn Hitchcock fans around?

I'd have responded earlier, but couldn't type. Balloon man blew up in my hands...


GravatarToo bad about Frank Perdue. Tough man, that.

I said this in an earlier thread, but it bears repeating.

When Frank Purdue tells you his chicken's been boned,
You know he's done the job himself.
It takes a tough man to make a chicken tender.

Thank you.


GravatarMiriam! Miiiiiriaaaammmmm !!!

We're just sayin...


GravatarDamn it! I thought it was only Midnight, I guess it's 1AM... And I guess that means I've gotta sleep.


Gravatar
13-ish.. Swim Team... changing in the changing area... turned around... at the Wrongest moment... caught a towel-snap-to-the-ass on the tip of... wee Master Ripley... something about pain and veangence and suffering...


Oy. Not going to relate a tale, but let me just say: If your girlfriend ever gets the notion of jokingly seeing what happens when she takes the term "blow job" literally, be afraid.


GravatarIt takes a tough man to make a chicken tender.

It takes a two week class and a friendly attitude to make a bartender.


Gravatar9 years old...bike....pedaling hard...foot slipping...metal bar...laying in ditch...can't breathe

Plus Nixon was President.
Good ending though.
Nixon was run out of town on a rail, and I embarked on a lifelong scrotum massage regimen that was worked out marvelously.


GravatarWell, yeah...don't fight with crazy people, that's sort of what I was getting at. It's like, "Hey, this guy gets on 2,000-pound bulls - animals not noted for their easy-going nature in the first place - and jabs 'em in the side on purpose, as in no one's making him, and you wanna tangle with him?"

I once went to a bullfight in Spain. I wouldn't mess with a matador, either. Anyone who dresses like that, carries a sword, and screws around with angry livestock, well, let me stay home and watch The Octagon, is all I'm saying.


GravatarPut up or shut up!


GravatarFlorida drivers are nothin' once you've navigated Atlanta and I-285 a couple times. I'd rather deal with in-town traffic through 20 then get on that nightmare. People consider speed limit signs a suggestions. They do the same for lanes, too, now that I think about it. The upside is there's no alligators. I used to be scared to death of hitting an alligator when I lived in Florida, because I knew hitting one of those big fuckers would do more damage to my 1988 Ford Mustang POS than him, and I'd have to deal with one royally pissed off lizard.

Lizards in general give me the willies - never will figure out people who keep 'em as pets - but alligators give you that look that says, "Hey, I can eat you if I so chose. Isn't that interesting?"


Gravatar"When Frank Purdue tells you his chicken's been boned,
You know he's done the job himself.
It takes a tough man to make a chicken tender."

Another iced tea up the nose moment, courtesy of the Big Cheeses at Eschaton!


GravatarToo bad about Frank Perdue. Tough man, that.

Yeah, it broke his heart to have to enlist Paul Castellano's Gambino thugs to "persuade" New England grocers to stock his products.


GravatarIt takes a two week class and a friendly attitude to make a bartender.

It takes an electronics company and a bad accent to make a Nintender.


GravatarThersites,
Nah, they drug the bulls in bullfighting, so it doesn't count. Me, I like those nuts in Portugal who all line up one right behind another and let a bull hit 'em in the chest.

And while I'm thinking about people doing incredibly dumb things around bulls with pointy things in their heads and really short tempers, y'all notice no country folks ever turn up in Pamplona for none of that nonsense. "So you want me to pay money and line up with a bunch of other dickheads and get chased down a narrow street by a bunch of bulls who've been cooped up for a long period of time? Nope, believe I'll go grabblin' for catfish, thank you very much."


GravatarLizards in general give me the willies - never will figure out people who keep 'em as pets - but alligators give you that look that says, "Hey, I can eat you if I so chose. Isn't that interesting?"

On the first trip I ever took with my wife, I took her out to Jean Lafitte Nat'l Park, and we walked the trails, upon which, at one point, was a four-foot long alligator, its jaws agape, with that precise "I could fuck you up" look. We edged around it carefully, nearly stepping on a cottonmouth. Never thought I'd be within three feet of two nasty reptiles at once!


GravatarI think I could die contented in knowledge that I've seen all things that I need to see, then.

I'd settle for an athlete in any sport winning a championship and then saying on national TV, "we won because we're better, and it had jack shit to do with Jesus Christ."


Gravatary'all notice no country folks ever turn up in Pamplona for none of that nonsense.

Which may explain why you skipped the punning of the bulls here.


GravatarUmmmm... I feel the need to post this because I'm in a gloomy mood:

This Vicious Cabaret
Written/Composed by: Alan Moore and David J (1983)

They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway.
They say that life's a game, then they take the board away.
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
Then leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret...

In no-longer-pretty cities there are fingers in kitties.
There are warrants, forms, and chitties and a jackboot on the stair.
Sex and death and human grime, in monochrome for one thin dime,
But at least the trains all run on time but they don't go anywhere.
Facing their Responsibilities either on their backs or on their knees
There are ladies who just simply freeze and dare not turn away
And the widows who refuse to cry will be dressed in garter and bow-tie
And be taught to kick their legs up high in this vicious cabaret.

At last! The 1998 Show!
The ballet on the burning stage.
The documentary see
Upon the fractured screen
The dreadful poem scrawled upon the crumpled page...

There's a policeman with an honest soul that has seen whose head is on the pole
And he grunts and fills his briar bowl with a feeling of unease.
But he briskly frisks the torn remains for a fingerprint or crimson stains
And endevours to ignore the chins that he walks in to his knees.
while his master in the dark nearby inspects the hands, with a brutal eye,
That have never brushed a lover's thigh but have squeezed a nation's throat.
But he hungers in his secret dreams for the harsh embrace of cruel machines
But his lover is not what she seems and she will not leave a note.

At last! The 1998 Show!
The Situation Tragedy
Grand Opera slick with soap
Cliffhangers with no hope
The water-colour in the flooded gallery...

There's a girl who'll push but not shove and is desperate for her father's love
She believes the hand beneath the glove maybe one she needs to hold.
Though she doubts her hosts moralities she decides she is more at ease
In the Land Of Doing What You Please than outside in the cold.
But the backdrop's peel and the sets give way and the cast gets eaten by the play
There's a murderer at the Matinee, there are dead men in the aisles
And the patrons and actors too are uncertain if the show is through
And with side-long looks await their cue but the frozen mask just smiles.

At last! The 1998 Show!
The torch-song no one ever sings
The curfew chorus line
The comedy divine
The bulging eyes of puppets strangled by their strings

There's thrills and chills and girls galore, sing-songs and surprises
There's something hear for everyone, (reserve your seat today)
There's mischief and malarkies but no queers or yids or darkies
within this bastard's carnival, this vicious cabaret.


Sorry.


GravatarThersites, Backslider--ever been to the Running of the Bulls in Pamplona? That was actually one of the scarier experiences I had, and the bulls were the least of it. I never thought so many people could be so drunk for so many days in such a small area.


GravatarNever thought I'd be within three feet of two nasty reptiles at once! rorschach

There's some joke to be made here about lunch with DeLay and Frist, but I'm not gonna be the one to make it.


GravatarJeffCO,
Nope. I have the utmost respect for our bovine cousins. Doesn't mean I won't eat 'em, but I do think making baseball gloves and belts out of them is sorta tacky. I've always wonder what cows thought of cowboys wearing leather boots and chaps and coats and whatnot. "Look...he's got on Wanda. She always did have fair skin."


GravatarMy family boated on the Mississippi when I was growing up. Around 9 or 10 yrs old, as I was fucking about in the water while the family was enjoying their beach time, I proudly pulled a 3' snake out of the water on a stick.

Me big hunter... family not amused.


GravatarIt takes a two week class and a friendly attitude to make a bartender.

It takes an electronics company and a bad accent to make a Nintender.
rorschach
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It takes a double scotch and a couple ho's to make a weekender.


GravatarNever thought I'd be within three feet of two nasty reptiles at once! rorschach

There's some joke to be made here about lunch with DeLay and Frist, but I'm not gonna be the one to make it.


Heh. Indeed.

I guess I never thought that because I'm not a Repub.


GravatarBMR, it's Ho-Ho's™... no need to fear the Hostess lawyers here...


GravatarDailight saving time is a plot by morning persons against night persons.


GravatarSallyh,
There are certain experiences and sensations in life that I don't wish to repeat, and both being chased by angry bulls and being in a crowd of drunk, obnoxioues meatheads all moving in one direction rather quickly whether you're keeping up or not are just two I don't wish to repeat even for free. I'll be damned if I plan a vacation around a twisted combination of college football tailgating and cow tipping.


GravatarBackslider--you're very funny, but don't you like anoles, the little lizards who eat mosquitos? Presumably they'd eat larval-stage mansquitos too. When I lived in Florida, it was great to see the anoles hanging out on my porch, ready to eat any bug that came along.


GravatarMy main memories of Hostess cakes consist of cupcakes that you could peel the frosting off of. And what was that stuff in the middle, anyway?


GravatarIt's people! People!!!


GravatarAnd what was that stuff in the middle, anyway?

Heh.


GravatarBackslider--we were there for one afternoon. It was not pleasant. I willingly forfeited the hotel we'd booked for that evening. (I was annoyed, since they'd have been able to easily fill the room, but anything to get out of town).

Other than that, I consider Spain a fabulous place.


GravatarPeople? In a cupcake? That's it. Night, all


GravatarI like those nuts in Portugal who all line up one right behind another and let a bull hit 'em in the chest.

Never made it to Portugal. I'm not sure the bull I saw was drugged, or what have you. Bt then again, if I was going to get stabbed to death by a Spaniard wearing tight pants and a funky vest, I'd like to be pretty wasted myself.

I never could figure out the Pamplona thing either. As a city kid I always wondered what the point was, as the Running of the Taxicabs was always obviously a lot more challenging.


GravatarMy main memories of Hostess cakes consist of cupcakes that you could peel the frosting off of. And what was that stuff in the middle, anyway?
Sallyh
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Dextrose glycose zutamate. Tasty, but turns to caulk in the colon.


GravatarDraco,
I'm in favor of anything that eats mosquitos that ain't me. Personally, I've always thought that mosquitos were either proof positive of the non-existence of God or, if he does exist, he's a bastard. I grew up in a Mississippi river bottom. We had mosquitos that could stand flat-footed and fuck a turkey. Mosquitos that killed time by huffing Raid. Mosquitos that slapped you back. Big fuckin' mosquitos, I'm sayin'.


GravatarSo who was the last non Italian Pope (not including John Paul II)?


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I'm in favor of anything that eats mosquitos that ain't me.


All hail the million bats that live under the bridge here in Austin!


GravatarSo who was the last non Italian Pope (not including John Paul II)?

Ted Smith?


GravatarSpain is a wonderful country, though, all things considered. Barcelona is a fan-tastic city.


GravatarSure, Backslider, you're a tough guy now... but do you have the crank in your pants to stand up to....

BlogSquito !!!

Ok, shameless blogwhoring there.. hell, it's late, we're all friends, let's just climb in the hot tub, ok?


GravatarCentral--it's been 455 years. Let me look this up.


GravatarThersites,
The best part is those guys are bigger than rock stars in Spain. And from what I can gather, one bull fight is pretty much like all the rest apart from the color of the dude's knickers. Granted, it's quite possible that I - a stone dumbass country boy if there ever was one - am missing something key here, but it's always seemed like they're basically cheering "Yes! You jabbed that bull and flapped that flag just like every other guy who's done it properly. Good job, oh refugee from a Gilbert & Sullivan musical."

I think maybe the only distinctly European folk art more entertaining is either Morris Dancing or the Italian parliament.


GravatarSpain is a wonderful country, though, all things considered. Barcelona is a fan-tastic city.
Thersites


For all the headlines that country grabbed for hundreds of years, it's amazing how low a profile they seem to prefer now.


GravatarSpain is a wonderful country, though, all things considered. Barcelona is a fan-tastic city.

True, but it's rather fancy. One might almost say that it's Gaudi.


GravatarGoddamn, 2:30 in the morning and I gotta get up at 6 AM.

Be well, you Muther Scratchers.


GravatarI grew up in a Mississippi river bottom. We had mosquitos that could stand flat-footed and fuck a turkey. Mosquitos that killed time by huffing Raid. Mosquitos that slapped you back.

Sheeeit.

We had mosquitoes that got elected to city council and put in anti-Off legislation. We had mosquitoes that called you on the phone and taunted you before they bit you. We had mosquitoes that had to circle the tower for three and a half hours before they could find a runway where they could land.


GravatarPope Callistus III, a Spaniard, pope from 1455-58.


GravatarI have the utmost respect for our bovine cousins. Doesn't mean I won't eat 'em, but I do think making baseball gloves and belts out of them is sorta tacky.

Well, I haven't gone the vegan complete-eschewment-of-leather path, but I haven't eaten a cow in 15 years (Bart Simpson notwithstanding). Don't go for the A1 with my tofu either- it's got little anchovies swimmin' around in it. Still, if I have a choice between leather or not, I go with not. Which reminds me,

Little girl visits a ranch on a school trip and learns all about how meat makes it to her dinner table. Later she asks her teacher what they do with the rest of the cow. The teacher points to her shoes and says "You know what those are made from?" "What?" "Hide." Not sure what the teacher means, the little girl repeats, "What?" "Hide" the teacher says again. Getting frustrated, the little girls asks "What are you talking about?" The teacher, also frustrated, says "Hide! Hide! The cow's outside!" To which of course the little girl responds, "So what, I'm not afraid of a cow!"

Thank you. I'll be here all week. Please tip your waitron.


GravatarAll hail the million bats that live under the bridge here in Austin!
rorschach | Email | Homepage | 04.03.05 - 3:43 am | #


Last time I was in Austin, I saw them fuckers take off from under that bridge while on acid. I mean, I was on acid. The bats, I don't know but I'm pretty sure there would've been a whole lot more bumping into one another had they been on acid.

And...
but do you have the crank in your pants to stand up to....

Do I what?


GravatarRory, there you Goya gain...

Sorry... sometimes the voices make me type, too....


GravatarPope Callistus III, a Spaniard, pope from 1455-58.


Rome or Avignon?


GravatarWe had mosquitoes that got elected to city council and put in anti-Off legislation. We had mosquitoes that called you on the phone and taunted you before they bit you. We had mosquitoes that had to circle the tower for three and a half hours before they could find a runway where they could land.
Thersites


We didn't have mosquitoes. They were afraid of the lice.


GravatarShit, when I grew up the mosquitoes delivered my papers on the paper route then carried my books to school... uphill... both ways.. then they drank my blood and dropped me off at home for a home cooked meal.

Life was simpler then....


GravatarNo time change here!! Ah being a desert cat has many advantages. Except many cable shows start an hour earlier for us now....


GravatarI see you all have been talking about cows. I assume this is because you are all racists, and hate Indian people since cows are sacred to them and they don't eat them.

Racist fake liberals.

Have a nice day.


GravatarThersites,
Those were yankee mosquitos, though, weren't they? That being said, there's some ugly things that happen to the bugs in Michigan and Minnesota when that part of the world thaws out every year. It's frozen solid half the year and the other half it's mud. The fuck were those people thinkin'?


GravatarAll hail the million bats that live under the bridge here in Austin!
rorschach | Email | Homepage | 04.03.05 - 3:43 am | #

Last time I was in Austin, I saw them fuckers take off from under that bridge while on acid. I mean, I was on acid. The bats, I don't know but I'm pretty sure there would've been a whole lot more bumping into one another had they been on acid.


Bat on acid: "Have you ever REALLY looked at your wings? And being upside down is, like, so cool."

Rory, there you Goya gain...

Is it dangerous to say that I shall Basque in my glory?


GravatarThe best part is those guys are bigger than rock stars in Spain. And from what I can gather, one bull fight is pretty much like all the rest apart from the color of the dude's knickers.

I don't pretend to understand it. But yeah, they are rock stars. I still have a photo of the people we met at the bullfight; they were pleased as hell to see Americans there, and walked us through the whole event, as it were. Local pride, local customs. Hard to judge.

One bullfight's enough for me, though.


GravatarWait, Pope Adrian IV, born in Utrecht, Holland, pope from 1522-1523. Only pope other than Marcellus II to keep his baptismal name.


GravatarSo who was the last non Italian Pope (not including John Paul II)?
SWR


The Pope of Greenwich Village.


GravatarState Says No To Patriot Act


GravatarI'll wait to hear from Madonna before I make any decisions about this Pope business....


GravatarThere was an English pope. I forget his Pope secret code name, but he was a doctor and his bumbling pretty much killed the three previous popes (and a king or two along the way). So they made him a pope, the only English pope. Something fell on him and he died, and that's why I imagine there's been no more English popes. One guy fucked it up for the whole country.


GravatarWait, Pope Adrian IV, born in Utrecht, Holland, pope from 1522-1523.

You've got your Roman numerals transposed.

Adrian VI was pope from 1522-1523.

Adrian IV was pope from 1154-1159 and he was actually born in England.


Gravatar...they were pleased as hell to see Americans there, and walked us through the whole event, as it were. Local pride, local customs. Hard to judge.

Sounds like the rattlesnake roundup in Okeene Oklahoma.

Seriously.


GravatarWhat? Hell yes, she calls me all the time... practically... or whatever...

Who are you to judge???


GravatarThersites,
Hey, I like monster truck rallies. It's bullfighting with big goddamn trucks, basically.


GravatarNow why are y'all a-hatin' on the skeeters? Why I've heard Skeeters sing so sweetly it'd make a grown man cry.

Why does my heart go on beating?
Why do these eyes of mine cry?
Don't they know it's the end of the world.
It ended when you said goodbye.


Sniff...


Gravatar
Those were yankee mosquitos, though, weren't they?


Mosquitoes is mosquitoes, I'm thinking. Nasty big or small, north or south.

Jeeebus! First thunderstorm of the year. Weird freaking weather this year so far...


GravatarSWR--it's late, and I indeed did transpose my numerals. Gracias. I am referring to Adrian VI.


GravatarAdrian IV. The only English Pope.

Brief summary
Nicolas Breakspear was born possibly on the site of what is now Breakspear Farm at Bedmonton near Abbots Langley in Hertfordshire. Born in about 1100, he became Pope for four and half years in 1154.

Nicholas Breakspear was the son of an educated but poor man. He was a Saxon and was not admitted to the Abbey at St Albans a few miles away, so went travelling to get on in the world. He went to France to study at Arles, and joined the St Ruf monastery where in time he became its tenth Abbot. He went to Rome on Abbey business, but was spotted by the Pope, Eugenius III, and kept there, being made a cardinal and Bishop of Albano in Italy. Because of his clear thinking, administrative abilities and knowledge of the law, Nicholas was given important jobs including organising the church in Catalonia after the defeat of the Saracens, and also in Scandinavia.

When he returned from Scandinavia in 1154, Eugenius had died and Nicholas was elected Pope as Adrian IV. It was a short but eventful pontificate. His ability to think on his feet became important because he had inherited a can of worms - there were power struggles in and around Rome which led to him briefly excommunicating the city. Crucially there was a dangerous tension with the secular power of the Holy Roman Emperor, then the ambitious Frederick I Barbarossa. The position of Emperor depended on him being crowned by the Pope in Rome. Eugenius had agree to crown Frederick and Adrian carried out the promise, but relations between Pope and Emperor became difficult and eventually broke down.

Pope Adrian was a scholar, a lawyer, a skilled administrator and problem solver and he made his mark in church history with two particular rulings. He looked after parish priests by allowing them to keep part of the tithe money. He also ruled that serfs could marry without having to gain permission from their lords.

For centuries Pope Adrian had a bad named in Ireland because of a papal bull Laudabiliter, known as the Donation of Ireland, which appeared to give Ireland in perpetuity to the British king - thus giving him the reputation of being a major contributor to the centuries of the Irish difficulties. Modern scholarship suggests that this is inaccurate and that others later put a different interpretation on events.



GravatarJeffCO--iguanas like skeeters a lot


GravatarCentral Scrutinizer,
Been there. They had barbecued rattlesnake, and people kept trying to get me to eat some. I do not like snakes not one little bit, even if they've been killed, cooked and smothered in Poppaw's Five-Alarm BBQ Ass-Kicker Sauce. They'd say, "But it tastes like chicken" and I'd say, "Well, if I wanted something like chicken, I'd eat chicken. Chickens, as a general rule, do not poison you when you disturb their nap, and that's key to me."


GravatarAdrian IV. The only English Pope.

That motherfucker.


GravatarOT


Blogwhore: Would like help to see if my poll works.

Who Will be Pied Next?Who Will be Pied Next

Thanks


GravatarThat motherfucker.


Adrian's most controversial act was a bull that allowed Henry II of England to annex Ireland to his kingdom. "...[S]trive to imbue that people with good morals, and bring it to pass, as well through yourself as through those whom you know from their faith, doctrine, and course of life to be fit for such a work, that the church may there be adorned, the Christian religion planted and made to grow, and the things which pertain to the honor of God and to salvation be so ordered that you may merit to obtain an abundant and lasting reward from God, and on earth a name glorious throughout the ages," he wrote the king. That decision left an aftertaste of bitterness that lingers to this day, more than 800 years later. It resulted in misery and conflict for both Ireland and England.


GravatarI saw a PBS Nature show ("Nature is made possible by a grant from Mobile Oil") on the urban bats in Texas and all the insect control they do. It's really amazing to think how well adapted certain animals are to the places humans have constructed, and they're doing us favors we don't appreciate.

There are also the prairie dogs of the plains states, who perform a great feat aerating the soil. But some of the fools living there consider the prairie dogs pests to be killed for pleasure.


GravatarRattlesnake does taste like chicken. I've had the pleasure of eating a good portion of the fine critters that inhabit the Midwest.

I should say tasting them, I didn't eat all the critters. Wait, that doesn't sound right, either.

I've sampled some of them..


GravatarBackslider,

I saw this dumbass biker get bit in the face by a Diamondback because he decided to play chicken with it.

I heard later he lost his nose because of his extreme stupidity.

Sometimes I wonder how some people get to be so old.


GravatarI saw a PBS Nature show ("Nature is made possible by a grant from Mobile Oil") on the urban bats in Texas and all the insect control they do. It's really amazing to think how well adapted certain animals are to the places humans have constructed, and they're doing us favors we don't appreciate.

Yep. When the bats first moved in, there were big debates about how to get rid of them, until they wised up and said, "Wait. Fuck! Bats are good!"

And OT-- Killing is fun! Perhaps the real reason we went to Iraq...


GravatarBut some of the fools living there consider the prairie dogs pests to be killed for pleasure. -Draco

Don't even get me started on that. When the local and state gummints out here in CO aren't busy persecuting perfessers and ignoring thirty-something tennis teachers as they hump the students, they're finding new and better ways to poison the prairie dogs so's they don't disrupt the new condo complex somebody's building.


GravatarTo err is human; to moo bovine.


GravatarGreat. Now I've gotten hooked on reading papal history. It's all your guys' fault.

I'm reading about St. Clement I. My favorite place in Rome is the Basilico del San Clemente, which is an old church built over an even older church which is over a first century temple. Some of the frescos in the fourth century church (second level) are being restored. It's an amazing place.

The catacombs were something of a disappointment.


GravatarI saw this dumbass biker get bit in the face by a Diamondback because he decided to play chicken with it.

He was not cowed.


GravatarPrairie dog mounds are a good place to find arrowheads and other native American artifacts.

Cute little diggers, they are.


GravatarJeffCO--sounds like the prairie dogs have a human problem.


GravatarCuz prairie dogs really go for the native american look. Frankly, it's become a bit passe. I mean, one hole looks like the next, as far as I can tell.

What's next, green "marble" vinyl in the bathroom and knotty pine on the walls? Pleeeease....


GravatarRipley,

The prairie dogs at the Sedgwick County zoo, (Wichita KS, World Class Zoo! Sorry for the pimp, but it's one of the few things we've got going on) dug down more than 14' to escape from their enclosure.

I love the tenacious little guys.


GravatarSin City


GravatarCuz prairie dogs really go for the native american look. Frankly, it's become a bit passe.

But do they have Authentic Indian Names?


GravatarWell, that's enough for me. I've just been rooting around the web b/c down in the Poped thread hat referenced a new Zogby poll, done for some anti-abortion group, that claims (unlike every other poll) that Americans really did not think Schiavo's feeding tube should have been removed.

Problem is, they don't provide the full poll questions and responses and numbers - just snippets to support their assertions. A brief search failed to uncover said poll anywhere. I used last week's CNN.com's how-to-lie-with-statistics graphic to demonstrate to my research methodology students that there *is* actually a reason they should learn how to report results honestly (and never trust the media to do so). So I think I'll wait till I see the original data before embracing this one. Goodnight, moon(bats).

Change your clocks and grab your socks!


GravatarSo y'all out east already switched to daylight saving and we're still on standard here -- what's it like, what's it like? Wait, don't, no spoilers, I don't want to know ahead of time. I can wait, really, I can wait. Damn, I'll have to get satellite next year so I can see the switchover when it first comes on.

Whaddya mean you're all asleep already?


GravatarOf course Haloscan has its own unique time. Says it's 5:04 am, when it's 12:57 here. So even if you give it the benefit of the doubt in already having switched to DST, uh, and all, it's still ... well, I'm no math major and stuff ...

Perhaps that explains all the grief Haloscan causes: it's stuck in a time warp seven minutes in the future.


GravatarI think I finally figured out why they added Jerry Springer to the AA line-up.

Alan Colmes wasn't available ...





... yet.


GravatarThersites,
Those were yankee mosquitos, though, weren't they? That being said, there's some ugly things that happen to the bugs in Michigan and Minnesota when that part of the world thaws out every year. It's frozen solid half the year and the other half it's mud. The fuck were those people thinkin'?
Backslider


Yeah, no shit. Out mosquitos ain't as big as some I've seen in Louisiana and Florida, but they're meaner. "My daddy froze to death, but I didn't! I survived your damn winters and the monthly poison dumpings! You can't kill me! I am invicible!" which of course, sounds to us like WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
... I gotta get out of here.


GravatarWasn't there a Pope named Fuck Bush IV?


GravatarMooo...

-eric: Revolutionary


GravatarSin City


I think I'll wait for the DVD before I determine how much I hate it.


GravatarWhy didn't delay, chimpy and jeb proclaim we needed to stick a feeding tube into the Pope and use "extraordinary means" to save his Holy life?

Do they need to wait until his brain is more fully atrophic? Shouldn't someone be asking a judge to keep the Pontiff alive? Are there mobs of people protesting? Where's that juggling guy? Why isn't congress taking action? WHERE SHOULD I BE SENDING MONEY?!?!?!?!?!?!

Inquiring minds want to know...


GravatarI wonder how long our country will continue to be filled with "Charlie Browns'" eternally believeing Lucy will not pull the football away at the last second.

Just one more straw...The "news" that Sanchez ordered torture. It fucking goes higher than that, and WE ALL knew it within minutes of seing Abu Gharaib photos. Hell, we knew it BEFORE that story even hit, but still were taken aback by the shere perversity....but just as large corporations behave (if they were people...which they apparently ARE under the law) sociopathic, so do all large institutions. That is why TRUE leadership (i.e. not standing in a flight suit on a carrier, trying so hard to "look the part" but actually LEADING) is so important. When their morals rot...we pay, every time.

When they tell us black is white, 2 + 2 = 5, we need to spring back and counter it.

So as soon as the story hit, before they had even time to investigate, we heard "just a few misguided soldiers"....and the core population just wanted to believe in daddy Bush.

What a crock. What a crook!
This happens EVERY damn time, and the yokels don't wise up.

America is turning from a great nation of independant thinkers, doers, readers, thinkers, inventors...into one huge trailer-park.

That's our future now. The penny ought to have a winnebago on it instead of Lincoln.


GravatarBackslider,

I saw this dumbass biker get bit in the face by a Diamondback because he decided to play chicken with it.

I heard later he lost his nose because of his extreme stupidity.

Sometimes I wonder how some people get to be so old.
Central Scrutinizer


Heh...I remember once reading a small story in a newspaper and having one of those epiphanies where I just KNEW, reading between the lines what had happened.

Story of a guy that was killed by a rattlesnake while out hiking with a few buddies. The part that got me was the snake bit him on the (either lips or...) tongue.

That just doesn't happen unless you are rock climbing and unlucky (unlikely) OR you are playng "Nyah-Nyah" sticking out your tongue at a rattlesnake while thinking you are holding it tightly in hand.

So, there's one less moron cluttering up the gene pool anyway.


GravatarDoes a dead pope shit in the woods?


GravatarReposted from the beginning of this thread. Mother Jones detailing Iraq today. Happy reading.


GravatarOh. My. God.

I am just catching up with this "Curveball" story. And oh my fucking god.

They are fighting about whether anyone told them an Iraqi informant codenamed "curveball" was reliable or not?

You just gotta laugh. Let's see, next on the list codename: "lying, pimping, sack of weasel shit pathological liar"....okay, THIS guy is reliable though right?

And then I want to interview "dollarsigns", "stooge", and "corkscrew"


GravatarPossible backlash from the Wolferitz appointment.

Should I even bother turning on the teevee for some news. Probably not. I gave up last night and watched an episode of Deadwood. I think tonight I will watch two!


GravatarDo you think that the pope has met Terri Schiavo in heaven yet? I see them having cosmopolitans and sharing a good laugh over the last week.


GravatarMorning all. Weather here in Cleveland-why oh why-o did I ever move to Ohio?-is horrible. Snowy with forty mile per hour winds.
The electricity keeps going off-coming back on and going off again. Arrrrgh. I've set the alarm for my church going husband five times now.
How is it where you are?


Gravatarmorning free thinking moonbats and reality based memebers!

it is a cool, windy, rainy day here in ma. the rain and wind pounded on the windows last night making it difficult for sleep.

and, since we lost an hour due to dst, this moonbat will suffer from fatigue and have a difficult adjustment to the time change until october when they change it back.

absolutely no teevee for me today. no point. everything will be preempted with the coverage of the pope.


GravatarMorning Early Riser Moonbats!

I see we have scooped up the newspapers and are raring to go. Yep, that Curveball story has been around for quite a while and Il Papa bit the dust just in time to hush it up AGAIN.


Gravatarspinozapeep,

Ain't you done with them Peeps yet? Hahaha. They're on sale at fine candy stores everywhere. 10 packs for 1 dollar.


GravatarThe weather is great here in Sweden... Nice to be away from the Cheeto-Eating-Torture-Monkeys for awhile. I must find out what the translation for 'moonbat' is here. god morgon my fellow bats of the moon. Tack sε mycket Eschatonia!


GravatarLucky you, Ken. It's all pope all the time here. Ridiculous.

Meanwhile, a band of 60 or so insurgents bombed and rocketed Abu Graib prison yesterday. Anybody hear about that? Oh, yeah, the pope is a farking saint who ended Communism.


Gravatar"Whoever threatens to assault...or murder, a United States judge...with intent to retaliate against such...judge...on account of the performance of official duties, shall be punished [by up to six years in prison]”



http://johnkerry.com/petition/us...on/ usatoday.php


Gravatarand now the lighter side of politics.

here are some stupid things that have come out of chimpy's mouth.

it would be funny, if he wasn't such a fuck.

'Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and don't do it, that's trustworthiness.'


'The benefits of helping somebody is beneficial.'

'[We will] use our technology to enhance uncertainty abroad.'


'...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas.'

'If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow.'

'It's hard to be successful if you don't make something somebody doesn't want to buy.'

I had the opportunity to go out to Goree Island and talk about what slavery meant to America. It's very interesting when you think about it, the slaves who left here to go to America, because of their steadfast and their religion and their belief in freedom, helped change America. America is what it is today because of what went on in the past.'

'I think war is a dangerous place.'


'I know the human being and fish can co-exist peacefully.'

'I have said that the sanction regime [against Iraq] is like Swiss cheese. That meant that they weren't very effective.

''I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question.'

'The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case.''

Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to know it.'


'Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.'

'We don't believe in planners and deciders making the decisions on behalf of Americans.'

'It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it.'

'We want our teachers to be trained so they can meet the obligations, their obligations as teachers. We want them to know how to teach the science of reading. In order to make sure there's not this kind of federal — federal cufflink.'

'I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war.'


'He married a Texas girl, I want you to know... A West Texas girl, just like me.'

'I think it's interesting. I'm a follower of American politics.'

'I'm the master of low expectations.'


'I had my first 'scope', as we say in the business, I think maybe five or six years ago. They discovered polyps for the first time.'

'I'm a patient man, which is hard for me to believe.'


'It's amazing with the software that has been developed these days that enable a camera to distinguish the difference between a squirrel and a bomb.'

'You teach a child to read and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'

'I understand small business growth. I was one.'

'Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.'


GravatarFake liberals.

Have a nice day.


GravatarThis response to a troll was posted on Orcinus.

'Yeah, that's the kind of non-hyperbolic, reasoned speech I was sent to this site for.'
--whatwoulddylanthink

So the trolls ARE sent by someone! Who do you work for? How's the pay? Is it enough to fill the gaping hole in your conscience?
Bolo


GravatarThey won't be able to bury the real news forever, although people like us will have to force the MSM to do its farking job.
What am I saying? As long as there's a naughty celebrity in Hollywod, our gentlemen and ladies of the press will be pre-occupied.


GravatarI read over at Kos that Bernard Law is supposed to appear on ABC's This Week today. Is his reputation still that untarnished that his opinion counts for anything?

(That's sort of like inviting Ken Lay on to discuss high gas prices.)


Gravatarher eyes,

Hoo boy! Chimp is the most moroninc bastard alive. History will treat him with the contempt he richly deserves.


GravatarHistory will treat him with the contempt he richly deserves.

from your keyboard, bigvic, to the gods/goddess' ears!

i know i butcher the language sometimes, but i'm also not the leader of the free world.


GravatarIf Ken Lay were being forthright and honest, he could tell ya a lot about high gas prices and gaming the system through bribes to politicians (though some might call 'em campaign or PAC contributions *wink wink*)

And Bernard Law could tell ya loads about how to play shell games to hide pervs and the truth from the public and those that have placed their trust in you.


GravatarMorning Moonbats


GravatarMorning everyone.

Damn, missed the wall-to-wall "Pope On Ice 2005 Tour" yesterday because I was out watching "Sin City" and then took the family out to dinner and did a little shopping before coming home and watching "North by Northwest" followed by "Closer." Amazing what happens when you aren't home and the TV is off/on another channel.


GravatarBernard Law....hummmm. Help me out here. Can't quite place him.


GravatarShit - Super must not know about DST. Laundry room is locked. The only things I miss from my house are a washer and dryer. Other than those, apartment living is fine, if rather cramped.


GravatarIf Ken Lay were being forthright and honest, he could tell ya a lot about high gas prices and gaming the system through bribes to politicians (though some might call 'em campaign or PAC contributions *wink wink*)

Not to mention how to create numerous shell corporations to funnel millions into secret offshore private accounts.
(ie- the way ultra rich people 'privatize' money for retirement)


GravatarBig Daddy,

You must have had a bang up day. Sounds like a perfect Saturday. I avoided the pope fest of fools tour by watching NCAA basketball. Both my teams lost. *SOB* Some days you just can't win.


Gravatarnot sure, but i think bernard law is / was the cardinal in boston.


GravatarKen Shabby,

Phonetically "Varsa goo"


GravatarYou must have had a bang up day. Sounds like a perfect Saturday. I avoided the pope fest of fools tour by watching NCAA basketball. Both my teams lost. *SOB* Some days you just can't win.

Yeah, it was bangup. Was out at dawn rounding up breakfast for the family, then doing our all-day thing (the wife took the daughter to see "Robots" while I dug the ultra-violence) and nary the words, "The Pope is really, really, really dying this time" at any time.

I've had those days where you can't win--too many of them. But today I'm looking at doing a little grilling today. Picked up 48 lbs of Kingsford and I'm ready to fire it up.


GravatarI insist it's "spring back and Fall forward".

But what do I know.

Silvia Poggiooooooli just did the Pope's bio and didn't mention his Nazi-killing ways. Apparently he didn't exist before he was Pope.

And I want to say this up front: Woman are snakes and Homos are...are... ...are to terrble to talk about. [/snark]


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GravatarJeepers H. Christmas. No Frank Rich today? There is no justice in this world. I'm going on vacation just in time. The weeks long, perverted death crap on TV news black out has me steaming.


GravatarYesterday afternoon, Mrs DWD and I visited the youngest of my father's sisters. (and one of two yet alive) My aunt and uncle are not doing very well. After eighty, things just do not work very well. I think she wanted to see me before she checked out permanently.

They are good people - the daughter and son of Dutch immigrants. Hard working, church-going, family oriented, and no-questions-asked Republicans.

We sat in the pleasant afternoon talking of family matters. How her kids were doing, news of my sisters (Bizarre as usual) and such. I had signed a copy of the book for her and I gave it to her and so on.

As the afternoon dimmed, I finally decided to do a little subtle probing of why they were Bush supporters. I brought up, obliquely, issue after issue to ascertain what they thought. I listened to their responses and they were pretty much in agreement with me. (There were the occasional "Rush" talking points which are easily defeated by reason: "Think of WWII and how many died, ONLY 1500 have died in Iraq!" "Yes, and how many deaths for a mistake are acceptable?" I replied - no answer.)

Finally as the cake was consumed and the coffee drained we left. I did manage to ask about why they voted for the chimp and their answer was that they just did not like the other guy.

So, what is the answer, Moonbats? Even died-in-the-wool Republicans are in agreement with us on most issues: but they do not trust a Democrat to do a "Christian" job.


GravatarTed, they been mistreating you again, hun?


GravatarI'm sayin' Big Daddy went to Sam's. Only place I've seen Kingsford in double 24# bags round this shithole of a town.


GravatarAnd I want to say this up front: Woman are snakes and Homos are...are... ...are to terrble to talk about.

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Now you're catching on. Took you long enough. One little hint: "to" should be "too." But other than that, you are making progress. They'll kick you out of troll schoool if you make too many mistakes like that. Dontchyaknow.


Gravatar"Please do not tamper with freedom-loving Americans' Senate filibuster tool, which has served them well many times in the past," Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Committee, wrote in an open letter to Dr. Frist."


"Whoever threatens to assault...or murder, a United States judge...with intent to retaliate against such...judge...on account of the performance of official duties, shall be punished [by up to six years in prison]”


GravatarI'm sayin' Big Daddy went to Sam's. Only place I've seen Kingsford in double 24# bags round this shithole of a town.

Close. Costco. 2 24# bags, $10.49. I've been a member of Costco since the one opened up here in NW IN in 2001. I spend way too much money there . . ..


GravatarAs usual, Katha Pollitt gets it right. From the Nation. Now if we could just have this discussion instead of all pope all the time.


GravatarSo, what is the answer, Moonbats?

Easy. They are self deluded and willfully ignorant. They'll have to cure themselves since nothing liberals have to say penetrates their thick skulls.


GravatarClosest Cosco is like 60 miles away. Hence we do Sams's regretfully. But yeah, yer right though - charcoal is the deal at $9.50-$10.50/48 lbs... as opposed to Krogers, or Meijers where it's $9.49 for 20#.

I will not be overcharged for charcoal, dammit.


GravatarQL,

The Times needs to fire Freidman and hire Pollit. How I long for logic and reason on the op-ed pages.


GravatarI will not be overcharged for charcoal, dammit.

Same here. Last summer I went through a lot, so I don't what to be overcharged on the 20# bags when I can get twice as much for the same price.

Now I just need it to get a little warmer so I can start working on smoking a 6 lb brisket--mmmmm, nothing else like it.


GravatarI will not be overcharged for charcoal, dammit.,/i>

good on you, Barndog! it is about time somebody took a stand on this!


Gravatar"So, what is the answer, Moonbats? Even died-in-the-wool Republicans are in agreement with us on most issues: but they do not trust a Democrat to do a "Christian" job."

The answer is to mandate the melt down of every last diebold blackbox and go back to paper ballots, which worked just fine for 200 years in our great nation.

How long before the vast majority of decent people in both parties finally get sick and tired enough to kick these fascist goons back to the curb where they belong?


GravatarBigVic,

Not in disagreement with you in any way. I am just amazed at how they can listen to information, process the information, and come up with exactly the wrong answer. It is very sad.

But unless we can find a way, short of a depression of mammoth proportions, of making them see: then we stand little chance of change.


GravatarI usually figger, since I operate with a Weber kettle, an hour a pound smoking time. If I can keep the outside of the kettle around 180-190 I'm rite in there. Means it's goin around 225.

I do hope you rubbed, and let that brisket set in the fridge overnite, correct?


GravatarHaloScam has eaten three of my posts.

I [heart] HaloScam.


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GravatarThe American Prospect magazine has an excellent article on the blogosphere and how, like everything else, the VRC is insidiously taking it over and using it to promote the rumors, lies and mythology of the rightwing in the same way more obvious mendacious media sources like FAUX NEWS, Flush Limbo, etc. do.

While we have Atrios and Kos, the Goopers are spreading their infectious media dementia through the blogosphere with funding from Richard Mellon Scaife (as usual) and other fascist fanatics.

There's a war going on for real freedom and civil liberties and anyone who thinks the VRC will be overcome easily or quickly is just as wrong as anyone who believes these frauds and fools cannot be defeated at all.


Gravatardamn tags.

since yesterday was so miserable weather-wise, i watched "gone with the wind" and about halfway through, my boy told me that the pope was dead, and i said, "what? again?" and he looked at me like i was crazy.

and i told him the press had him dead on friday, and then not dead.

so. i guess now he is really dead, but the question is, will he rise up again on mon/tues?

and, since freedom is on the march, and we have such a god-fearing president, and we live in the richest country in the world, with no child left behind, maybe we should be thanking god right now. /snark


GravatarI usually figger, since I operate with a Weber kettle, an hour a pound smoking time. If I can keep the outside of the kettle around 180-190 I'm rite in there. Means it's goin around 225.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sometimes I think we live in different worlds.


Gravatar"Bernard Law....hummmm. Help me out here. Can't quite place him."

-WWII British general who built his rep on victories won as a result of the enigma machine, which was not known at the time.

"The consensus among World War II historians is that he was overrated..."

http://clioseye.sfasu.edu/ bridge...bridgechron.htm

"I was well beaten myself, and I am better for it.
Bernard Law Montgomery"

...Oh, you meant the other guy. Former Cardinal of Boston who was overrated because he was secretly hiding child molestors, which no one knew at the time. Should have been well beaten himself. Would have been better for it.


Gravatar"I do hope you rubbed, and let that brisket set in the fridge overnite, correct?"

And good morning to all of you, too....

DST? Nah, not here. It's authentically 6.01am and the entire west coast is back in synch. Good morning LA!


GravatarDWD,

They'll *get it* when all those entitlements they claim to despise become unavailable. Then when they try to sue for relief, I'll laugh and laugh.


GravatarLord, I know you're all busy an' shit,
But please lean on these fundies a bit.
They're ignorin' your laws,
With their graven geegaws.
Force them to feed from the hindmost tit.


GravatarAwwww, pipe down GWPDA. Don't rub it in. Heh.


GravatarThe corporate media is a "bottom feeder" that feeds on it's bottom line.

"Profit" is their Mammon god and no Nightline, no Rather and no honest reporting will be allowed to remain if it doesn't maximize Profit's prospects.

Progressives have to resort to other media forms to get the truth out. Democracynow.org which relies on a network of small community TV stations is an excellent way to go for starters. The blogosphere is another, although as previously mentioned, the VRC is trying to monopolize it as they do every other media channel.

Word of mouth, emailing, and trying to get the Democratic party to be more of an opposition party are all worth doing.

I don't think there's a magic bullet to exposing and undermining the VRC. I think it's going to take many actions by many people and groups to finally alert America to the fact that there's a cancer called the Gooper party and it's metastisizing rapidly throughout our nation's government and media.


GravatarBTW, If everyone can agree to move to Montana, count me in. A beautiful place with an almost insignificant population. The influx of a million liberals hungering for peace and justice would probably be a coup.

QL in NY: love to show you the subtlties of grilling.

I am not sure what is happening in Cleveland, but in Michigan we are experiencing our second beautiful early spring day. The sun has risen silently, but gloriously and is now slanting through the slats in the of the mini blinds in the room where I am writing. So my advice to the people in the land of the Cleves is to just be patient, good weather is only a couple of hours away.


GravatarRight. Rub yer meat.


GravatarNot one single person in all of Phoenix is changing a clock forward backwards or sideways. That's howcome we're the great computerfarm center that we are. We just went to bed and and then got up - clocks? Clocks are fine. Yes, this is the time that sunrise comes. Looks overcast tho, a ring around the moon.


GravatarGWPDA sez:

DST? Nah, not here.

What, you live in Navajoland? Or Phoenix? Arthur knows from temporal nonsense.


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GravatarLime Rickey,

Excellent! On that happy note, Ya'll have fun today, and save me a slab of meat.

Peace Out.


GravatarI'm tired of hearing "how did you feel when you heard the pope was dead?"
Stupidest question evah.
I'm watching Black Beauty on HBO.


GravatarBarndog sez:

Right. Rub yer meat.

As a Pennsylvanian it sounds like you're endorsing Little Ricky.


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Gravatar"Right. Rub yer meat."

Errrr, thank you. The same to you, I'm sure.

Phoenix! That place everybody came to before they all decided to go to Montana and before that Santa Fe. Honest to God Phoenix, not Mesa, not Glendale, not Peoria, nor even SurPrise! Just Phoenix. No tempores, no mores. And it's already 65F, looking to - that's right, 87F.....


GravatarHey GWPDA,

I seem to find myself on chicago time now, though nothing has changed locally.


wooohooo.

Mornin Clockchangers.


GravatarI'm tired of hearing "how did you feel when you heard the pope was dead?"

reply: "I felt a slight chill run over me ..

then I shut the refrigerator door and popped open the can of beer I just pulled out."


Gravatarkent - Yours is a niche timezone I think.


Gravatari like daylight savings time. i like it when the sun sets at 9 pm.


GravatarI do hope you rubbed, and let that brisket set in the fridge overnite, correct?

Oh, yes. Put on a nice spicy rub and let it sit in the 'fridge about 12 hours, then got up early, lit up the grill and spent about 6 hours getting it right. The meat was just falling apart when you touched it with a fork.


GravatarAnd Lord? Thank you for Ricky. He's a pearl without price.


GravatarI'm tired of hearing "how did you feel when you heard the pope was dead?"
Stupidest question evah.


"How did I feel? Well, I'm not sure; I had to take a piss when the news came on the TV and I had other things on my mind--"


GravatarThe following is an email I sent to my local fish wrap about another propaganda letter from the RNC I caught this morning:


This 'letter to the editor' this morning in the paper is a copy and paste job. Every single sentence is from an email sent by Progress For America (funny, they all have names like that) which is a front group for corporate lobbying groups with deep pockets and close ties to the administration. When you get a slick letter like that with pure right-wing talking points, just copy a sentence or two and Google it. You will find it's not the person's words who submitted it but rather propaganda from special interests who have huge incentives to steal our retirements betting on Wall Street. I see these types of "letters" from the moronic wing nuts all the time in the letters section at your paper.......S


Support reform efforts for Social Security

Patrick Fertitta

Shreveport

We need to fix Social Security before it's too late. In 1950, there were 16 workers per retiree. Today there are only three workers per retiree, and by the time all of the baby boomers retire, we will be faced with just two workers for each retiree. It won't be long before Social Security will begin to pay out more in benefits than it collects in revenue.

President George W. Bush's plan for reform provides the best solution for all Americans. Younger workers will have the option to build retirement nest eggs through personal retirement accounts. Just as importantly, the current system will not change at all for seniors and those nearing retirement. We should not just hope, but should expect leaders in both parties to work together to fix our Social Security before it's too late. Bush's conservative, commonsense plan will ensure retirement security for years to come.

Let's support Congressman Jim McCrery and Bush with their efforts to overhaul and improve Social Security.

Dear PFA Supporter,

We need your help to save Social Security!

Although Social Security is sound for today's seniors, it lacks the resources to pay promised benefits to younger workers. While there were 16 workers per retiree in 1950, there are only three workers per retiree today and the government will begin to pay out more in benefits than it receives in payroll taxes by 2018. Further, unless we act now, the Social Security Trust Fund will be totally bankrupt by 2042 when today's younger workers begin to retire.

The longer we wait to fix Social Security for our children and grandchildren, the more difficult and costly it will be to solve the problem! In fact, the cost to reform Social Security increases $600 billion every year we delay reform.

Thankfully, President Bush and congressional leaders have the courage to make reforming Social Security - through the creation of voluntary personal retirement accounts - their top priority for 2005.

Here are some indisputable facts about Social Security:

• The Time is Now! The cost to reform Social Security increases $600 billion every year we fail to act;

• The Baby Boomers are Coming! Social Security is a pay-as-you-go system and 76 million baby boomers will begin to retire in less than 5 years. While there were 16 workers per retiree in 1950, there are just 3 workers per retiree today and soon there will only be two workers per retiree;

• "Doing Nothing" is Not An Option! The Social Security Trust Fund will begin to pay out more in benefits than it receives in payroll taxes by 2018 and it is projected to run out of money by 2042 if we do not act now;

• Massive Shortfalls. The Social Security Trustees estimate a shortfall of more than $10.4 trillion in order to meet Social Security's obligations and make it permanently solvent;

• Personal Nest Egg. Voluntary personal retirement accounts would provide younger workers - especially workers who could not otherwise afford to save - with a nest egg they can call their own, government cannot take away and they can pass on to their children;

• Optional. Voluntary personal retirement accounts would be 100% voluntary and future retirees have the option of staying in the current system;

• Good Investment. While retirees received a 114% return on their investment in Social Security in 1940, they only receive 1.7% today. Voluntary personal retirement accounts provide younger workers with a better vehicle to save and invest for their retirement; and,

• Protecting Today's Seniors. Reform will not change Social Security for those at or near retirement.

Progress for America (PFA) is working to support efforts to reform and modernize Social Security. PFA launched a new television ad - called "Courage" - which outlines the fundamental problems facing Social Security and applauds our leaders for having the courage to finally address them. We also began a telephone and email program to let Congress know that the American people support their efforts.

This week, PFA is gathering petition signatures to let Congress know that the American people support reforming Social Security now. Please take a minute to sign our Social Security petition today and urge your family, friends, neighbors and coworkers to do the same.

Unfortunately, some Washington special interest groups are more concerned with scaring seniors and demonizing Social Security reform than actually solving the problem. Indeed, some people in Washington continue to deny that there is even a problem. AARP has already spent $5 million attacking reform and other liberal interest groups have announced their intentions to join the fray. Incredibly, these groups will spend more than $100 million trying to convince Congress to "do nothing."

We need your help to counter their efforts and save Social Security! There are countless ways you can help and your support will send our leaders a message before it is too late. Please consider doing one or more of the following:

• Contact your Senators and Congressman to demand action now;

• Visit PFA's website to sign our petition;

• Visit PFA's website to make a financial contribution which will pay for future TV ads, mail and phone programs;

• Forward this email to five friends and urge them to join our efforts.

At the very least, let President Bush and Congress know that you want them to reform and protect Social Security by signing our petition.

We must deliver 100,000 petition signatures to Congress this week to send a message that reforming Social Security is too important to wait. Otherwise, our leaders will only hear from those want to pass Social Security's problems on to future generations.

So far, President Bush and congressional leaders are showing great courage in promoting reform and supporting voluntary personal retirement accounts. Please sign our petition today and help make sure that our leaders do not back down.

And after signing the petition, please help us counter the liberal misinformation machine by forwarding this email on to your friends and family.

Thank you for helping to save social security for future generations.

Brian McCabe
President
Progress for America


Gravatarkent sez:

Mornin Clockchangers.

I refuse to recognize this whole clock-changey thing.

[/indianan]

(Are there still counties in Indiana that ignore DST?)


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GravatarI too like DST. Now instead of arising at the ungodly hour of 4:00, I will sleep in blissfully til 5:00. Haven't needed an alarm clock in twenty years.


Gravatari love the long shadows of summer evenings too.


Gravatari like daylight savings time. i like it when the sun sets at 9 pm.
Olaf glad and big


Olaf, walk toward the light. DST is stupid and I hate it. I'll be resetting clocks and things for a week.


GravatarGood on you Incog.


Gravatari love the long shadows of summer evenings too.

Personally, I love the smell of napalm in the morning.


GravatarOkay - this thread now has over 600 posts. Methinks Atrios did not heed his own advice.


GravatarMy VCR resets automatically, though.


GravatarSunrise: 6.13am
Sunset: 6.50pm

Oh, it's good enough for me....


GravatarGWPDA,

95 percent of the state does not change, however there are two chunks NW and SW that appear to change. Not unlike the NE part of AZ.

Feel sorry for those folks, I do.


GravatarIncog sez:

My VCR resets automatically, though.

Isn't that cool?

Of course, it doesn't change the fact that it's fucking snowing here.


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Gravatar(Are there still counties in Indiana that ignore DST?)

Most of them.


Gravatar"i'll be resetting clocks and things for a week."
-incognito

you have way too many clocks.


GravatarClean sheets peeps.


GravatarMan, Incog - no shit you have too many clocks.


GravatarCan someone explain why 100's of millions of people are praying for the Pope now? Isn't he supposed to already be "tight" with God? Is everyone afraid God forgot about him or something?


GravatarMorning all,

Personally I would prefer it left on DST year 'round. I leave for work at 5am so am driving in the dark for most of the year anyway. I'd much rather have the extra daylight in the afternoon.


Gravatarhey.....you guys..........

There is this dead guy on every channel and it is really creepin' me out.


GravatarOf course, it doesn't change the fact that it's fucking snowing here.

Ya'll were all running to the window on tippy-toes gushing over it two months ago. I knew you'd end up bitching about it.


GravatarTo clarify re Indiana,

76 of 92 counties are on EST and choose not to implement DST i.e. no clockchanging. Counties around chicago change with chi town, as do counties surrounding evensville in the southwestern end of the state, and counties in the Lousville, and Cincinatti neck of the woods.

BTW fresh percale.


Gravatar" Not unlike the NE part of AZ.

Feel sorry for those folks, I do."

Yes, it's the Navajo Reservation, going across AZ and NM. The capitol, Window Rock is on the AZ side, but the NM side basically just whined about being in touch with their local white eyes and so it was. There's enough territory tho so if you forget you've still got enough distance to correct it without anybody realising you were almost 'late'. Or early.


GravatarIt's another example of how sheepish people can be. If we had any kind of discipline those who wish could simply agree to get up an hour earlier and leave the stupid clocks alone. No, those people who think they know best for everyone else (calendar nazis) determined they could force us all to do it for our own good. I like mornings. I hate bossy people.


GravatarThere's enough territory tho so if you forget you've still got enough distance to correct it without anybody realising you were almost 'late'. Or early.


Very good point.


GravatarI have no time change here in AZ, yet I get all my entertainment and news from internet, satalite TV, and Sirius radio.

My clocks dont change, but the daily show, and all of AAR are moved up an hour. confusing.

Cows have amazing internal clocks, especially a herd with milk filled udders.


GravatarCows rule us all.

Y'all just don't realize it.

That's what they want.

Mooo.


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GravatarWhen I attended UC Davis, the big social thing on campus was the annual changing of the cows. People competed for the honor.

The milk in the cafeteria was superb.

Still.


Gravatarfoobar sez:

Actually, it's "Daylight Saving Time" (no -s)

Actually it's Daylight Slaving Time (no rest)


GravatarSallyh asks:

Ripley, I've got 11 years on you...what do I get when I turn 50?

Old.


GravatarTo quote Blaine John Chaney:

"I like COWS.... and they like me.

I like -- COWS... just wait 'n' see.

'Cuz they go 'moo'... yeah, move over..."


GravatarRacist fake libruls.

Have a nice day.


GravatarMoo.


GravatarLaShawn reviews books! Who'd a thunk. Here she reviews
Charlie Daniels


Gravatarthanks


Gravataroh yeah, Frist :P


Gravatarwell what do you know? I'm the only one here


Gravatarahhhh, you east coasters must be at lunch


Gravatarmaybe you guys forgot to refresh?


Gravatarperhaps this ancient relic that I'm posting from is deceiving me


Gravatarok, maybe haloscan has crapped the bed?


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