I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
I hate em too. Can we all chip in and buy alittle island up here (we got a lot), and call it Eschatonia? Please?
Fuck Bush and the Wolf he rode in on.
fuck bush!
SECOND?... I hate them too....bastards!
Is Blitzer even Catholic?
Leslie is lucky he didn't get a well deserved literal ass-kicking. Even the Douchebag of Liberty was sticking up for Begala after that.
Opus DIE! Leslie.
Meanwhile, OT: Iraq demonstrations then and now!
Blitzer needs to formally -- and publicly -- apologize. I just called CNN and told them so. Feel free to be a copy-cat: 404-827-1500.
attaturk-CNN estimates the crowd in your lower picture as 30 (plus or minus 20,000).
And Catholic doctrine is NOT conservative!
I'm getting a sick of this crap.
What little I saw of the Popeathon, whenever Blitzer came onscreen, he never passed up an opportunity to demonstrate his lack of knowledge of Catholicism and its practitioners.
Blitzer first came to some minor prominence two decades as so ago as the Washington correspondent for the Jerusalem Post. I believe he has dual Israeli and US citizenship.
Chicken Noodle News also did a segment on Bob Novak's conversion to Catholicism.
Unfortunately, there was no mention of how outing a covert agent during wartime fit into his new-found Christian principles.
Mike Malloy last night suggested that the reason Novak wanted to be Catholic was he wanted to join Opis Dei because they like to kill people. I go along with that.
Actually, Jew or Catholic, Novak gives them both a bad name.
You can be Vice-President, Atrios! 
Attaturk--I think the media has a tad of trouble with basic counting.
attaturk-CNN estimates the crowd in your lower picture as 30 (plus or minus 20,000).
spinoza
And Leslie Blitzer added that the Muslim crowd was comprised of "bad Catholics"
Jesus, but Blitzer is an insulting asshole. Could you imagine him "teasing" James Dobson or Jerry Falwell by impying they're not good Christians?
Fucken-a.
My definition of a good catholic is Cardinal Fang, who I understand fathered one of Novak's ancestors by coupling with a loose nun.
Attaturk--I think the media has a tad of trouble with basic counting.
Sallyh, Countess Aerohen
You mean like the solidly popular President Bush?
Stinky,
I hesitate to ask, but what is the opposite of an insulting asshole?
I hesitate to ask, but what is the opposite of an insulting asshole?
Complimentary Junk!
Little Shitbeard's just misunderstood.
He's assumin' a librul's no good.
After years of putdowns
By "conservative" clowns,
Libruls oughta apply for sainthood.
I hesitate to ask, but what is the opposite of an insulting asshole?
spinoza
Is this one of those Zen Koans?
Is this one of those Zen Koans?
What is the sound of one of Liddy's labia clapping?
Here's my letter to CNN:
I recently learned of Wolf Blitzer's outrageous comment that Paul Begala isn't a "good Catholic". I think Wolf Blitzer should publicly apologize not only to Mr. Begala, but to all Catholics, MANY of whom are liberal. Mr. Begala is absolutely correct that many of the Catholic church's doctrines are liberal, including its stance against war, the death penalty, and, most importantly, its REAL commitment to helping the weak and the poor. In fact, I believe that nearly ALL of Christ's actual teachings match far more closely with the beliefs of liberals than with those of conservatives.
I know Mr. Blitzer tried to dismiss his comments as a joke, but I don't buy it. As a liberal Catholic, I was completely offended.
Just between you and me, I admit that I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but CNN doesn't need to know that.
Yeah, and fuck Fido Lightning, anyway.
Goddamn Liberal Media...
Blitzer first came to some minor prominence two decades as so ago as the Washington correspondent for the Jerusalem Post. I believe he has dual Israeli and US citizenship.
Ben Brackley
Jerusalem Post? Isn't that the rag formerly run by Conrad Black? Somewhere to the far right of Rupert Murdoch's rags.
blitzer is such a fucking douchebag. this idiotic exchange is from yesterday:
...And Judy, the president said that this was a ceremony so moving to him, that he called it a reaffirmation of this own faith and he predicted it would be a reaffirmation of faith for millions around the world -- Judy.
WOODRUFF: Now John, we understand the president also had talked to reporters a little bit about what it was like to "hang out" with the two former presidents.
KING: He did. It's a remarkable scene.
The president has now spent three days with his father, the 41st president of the United States, and Bill Clinton, his predecessor, the 42nd president of the United States. Quite remarkable.
On the ground the past three days, those two former presidents have been invited to the highly classified daily intelligence briefing. Mr. Bush saying he wanted to do that because he wanted to learn from them. He said when issues come up about intelligence, about the terrorist threat, about other developments around the world, that both his father and Bill Clinton offer their insights, offer some examples of their own interactions with other foreign leaders that they all, of course, encountered on this trip here to the pope's funeral. Mr. Bush saying that he learned quite a bit, and also saying that he had quite a bit of fun -- Judy.
BLITZER: It's Wolf, John. What about some of the other subjects that came up during that 45-minute session aboard Air Force One? For example, the president's commenting on the recent poll numbers and on the House majority leader, Tom DeLay?
KING: More fascinating political talk, Wolf, from the president in that conversation. I'll take Tom DeLay first.
The House majority leader, Mr. DeLay, has suggested maybe some retribution against those federal judges who refused to intervene after Congress passed that legislation giving the federal courts jurisdiction over the Terri Schiavo case. Mr. Bush was asked about that, and he said that he believes that we need an independent -- "I believe in an independent judiciary. I believe in proper checks and balances."
So the president clearly in no mood for any retribution against those judges. ...
BLITZER: All right. Our John King is in the Vatican doing our reporting for us. Thanks, John, very much for that report.
Judy, who would have thought when this president took office foreign policy would emerge as his strong point with the American public given his lack of experience when he was governor of Texas...
WOODRUFF: In so many ways.
BLITZER: ... and earlier hadn't even traveled that much abroad. But now it is his strength as the president, national security, the war on terrorism, and foreign policy.
What is the sound of one of Liddy's labia clapping?
bebe rebozo
Would that be with or without someone around to hear it?
It's always charming when someone patronises someone else. "BLITZER: Don't be so sensitive." They always say. 'Take your hand off my breast.' 'Oh, don't be so sensitive, just joking.' 'Take your bootheel off my throat.' ''Oh, don't be so sensitive, just joking.'
Words only have the meaning that the greatest bully wishes them to have - and those that the honest man permits.
(/aphorism)
BLITZER: I was certainly not questioning -- I was only teasing.
Wolf Blitzer likes to blow goats for spare change.
Hey relax Wolf. Don't be so sensitive, I'm only teasing.
The more I think about this, the more pissed I get. Particularly about Wolf's suggestion that NOVAK is a good Catholic! Novak=good, Begala=bad.
Novak and his war-mongering ilk would be on a straight path to hell, were it real.
Jesus, but Blitzer is an insulting asshole. Could you imagine him "teasing" James Dobson or Jerry Falwell by impying they're not good Christians?
Fucken-a.
Just replace "Robert" with "Paul" in Blitzer's "teasing comment," and try to imagine Blitzer telling Novak "Don't be so sensitive."
BLITZER: ... and earlier hadn't even traveled that much abroad. But now it is his strength as the president, national security, the war on terrorism, and foreign policy.
If foreign policy is w's strong point we are fucked up the ass with a double chain saw. That ratfucker has made enemies all over the globe and is possibly more despised that OBL. And what the fuck is up with Clinton and w being pals.
Here it is again in Blitzer's mouth - the presumption that the only "good" Catholics are politically conservative. Never mind that the late Karol Wojtyla (may he rest in peace) was liberal on many social issues, however much of a dinosaur he was doctrinally. Never mind that American Catholics voted with the same split as the rest of the American electorate.
Ain't Wolf's business to tell me whether or not I'm a good Catholic. Ain't even my pastor's, though he might have an informed opinion. It's between me and God.
I hate em too. Can we all chip in and buy alittle island up here (we got a lot), and call it Eschatonia? Please?
At a minimum, can we start to plan for a Peak Oil Eschaton Community?
The more I think about this, the more pissed I get.
Me too. I'm sitting here seething, actually. I already called CNN. I don't know what else to do. Is there a place that lists the people who advertise on "Inside Politics?" I might have to give them a piece of my mind.
I wish those whacky college kids who are pie-ing all the conservative trash would start pie-ing media, too. Blitzer gets a big banana cream pie in the face first.
WOLF: Judy, who would have thought when this president took office foreign policy would emerge as his strong point...
Maybe "strong" as in "strong-smelling". I can't think of a period in American history when our nation was so weakened and reviled.
I'd hate to see what one of Bush's failures would look like.
I hate em too. Can we all chip in and buy alittle island up here (we got a lot), and call it Eschatonia? Please?
Oh yes yes yes, can we? I'm in.
Great article - go read
The counterattack of the culture war has begun, and this is just one more sign of it.
The left is finding its moral voice, and part of expressing it will be an all out assault on the false piety and bogus religiosity of the right. The bible thumpers are going to rue the day they tried to jam their phoney Death Cult bullshit down our throats and call it "Life". How dare they! Shame on them! We're coming after YOU false preachers of the Apocalypse! And YOU, money-changers in the temple of spirit!
Here's hoping we can keep Civil War II cold. I'm guardedly optimistic.
I hope CNN's ratings continue to plummet. Ted Turner must be revolted by what his little creation has become. I hope CNN fails, fails, fails miserably. They deserve it.
all too often i find myself needing several John Stewart screamy "please stand by" moments.
Mondo - I think you're right, but you realize that means even more hysterical reactionism from them in the short term? In other words, it's gonna get so much worse before it gets better.
TJ and Tena - cool! Where shall we have our Constitutional Convention?
... now it is his strength as the president -
A president with a 43% approval rate is strong exactly how???
religion and politics, bad mix.
my fav. blitzer line was with the video of the tsnunami rushing through the streets. he exclaimed "Awesome, ah,ah,,,er i mean, that's horrible"
how did he get that job?
Jerusalem Post? Isn't that the rag formerly run by Conrad Black? Somewhere to the far right of Rupert Murdoch's rags.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
Isn't Wolfowitz on the board of the Jerusalem Post? What it is with guys who have "wolf" in their names?
begala pussied out moments later:
BLITZER: I was only teasing.
BEGALA: OK.
BLITZER: Don't be so sensitive.
BEGALA: Well, it's an important day for my faith.
BLITZER: It's a very important day.
BEGALA: He's the only pope of my adult lifetime, so I'm a little emotional.
(CROSSTALK)
... [insert obligatory clinton bashing, preferably smutty]
WOODRUFF: What about the comments on Air Force One today? We know that Bill Clinton -- I gather former President Clinton on the way over had talked to reporters about the mixed legacy of this pope.
NOVAK: Yes.
WOODRUFF: President Bush today weighed in and said, no, he thinks the legacy is a straight, positive... (CROSSTALK)
NOVAK: Yes. I was disappointed in President Clinton's comments about a mixed legacy. I believe that -- I believe that you should give a little leeway to ex-presidents to say things and make mistakes.
But I thought that was unfortunate. I thought he was triangulating again, trying to please people, conservatives and the liberals in the church who don't like some of the orthodox doctrine of the pope. And he really didn't have to do that, because I do believe that, in addition to what I mentioned, the conservative anti- communism, this pope this was a -- this was a very exciting thing that I particularly began to appreciate after I became a Catholic.
...BLITZER: What was amazing about the three presidents who went over, this great relationship that has developed between President Clinton and the two Presidents Bush.
(LAUGHTER)
BEGALA: I think that's good for America. It really is. There's a long history between those families.
NOVAK: You know what the problem -- you know what the problem is there.
BLITZER: Is there a problem? Why should there be a problem there?
NOVAK: The problem you is, you put anybody in a room with Bill Clinton and he gets seduced.
(LAUGHTER)
WOODRUFF: So, you think that is what has happened to President Bush?
NOVAK: Of course. You can't -- you can't help but be charmed by him. Now, I know one person...
WOODRUFF: Has that happened to you?
NOVAK: No.
(LAUGHTER)
NOVAK: But I'm a little different.
(LAUGHTER)
BLITZER: Newt Gingrich used to say that all the time.
NOVAK: It was true. It was true.
BLITZER: When he the speaker of the House, he used to always say, I go to the White House and I'm there with Bill Clinton and he -- sort of melts.
(CROSSTALK)
...BLITZER: I think it's fair to say, Judy, two very good Catholics.
(LAUGHTER)
BEGALA: Sorry to jump on you like that.
BLITZER: Excellent Catholics joining us.
NOVAK: OK. Thank you.
WOODRUFF: And influential individuals.
(LAUGHTER)
IOKIYAR:
G.O.P. Consultant Weds His Male Partner
Arthur J. Finkelstein, a prominent Republican consultant who has directed a series of hard-edged political campaigns to elect conservatives in the United States and Israel over the last 25 years, said Friday that he had married his male partner in a civil ceremony at his home in Massachusetts.
These people are so evil, but they are also so doomed. How is it that with the rise of ubitquitous information in the age of the inter, religion has once again been harnessed by the Authoritarians to control the masses. Oh sure, your Walmart crap is cheap now, but wait till Chinese demand for unrenewable energy resources drives the price of gas up to $250 a gallon? Will your Walmart shit be so cheap then. We are doomed, doomed, doomed, all of us, and instead of the truth they are still peddling pie in the fucking sky when you die. Yikes!
My comment to CNN:
Ten years ago, I got up in the morning and turned on CNN even before getting a cup of coffee. I pretty much left the station on all day. Sadly, that is no longer the case. The past few years I have noticed that CNN has basically stopped covering the news, and instead offers such fluff as "People in the News." More ominously, the network seems to be taking a hard turn to the right and is morphing into Fox lite. Wolf Blitzer's comment that Paul Begala was not a "good" Catholic because he was "liberal" is a good example of this. Frankly, I was highly offended by this comment. Have we now reached the point in this country that only conservatives can be "good" Christians. As Mr. Begala pointed out, Pope John Paul advocated many "liberal" positions, such as his opposition to the war in Iraq and the death penalty. Will Mr. Blitzer now claim the Pope wasn't a good Catholic because he was a "liberal."
I think Mr. Blitzer's attempt to cover up the remark by claiming he was just joking is every bit as offensive as the comment itself. Mr. Blitzer owes every American, who believes in the Constitution, an apology.
"Most observers are familiar with Pope John Paul II's attacks on communism, but fewer are familiar with the extent to which John Paul has criticized capitalism."
Gee, maybe because the SCLM hardly ever mentioned it? Much easier to play up other aspects, thus avoiding the tiresome rightwing whining we've come to know and loathe over the past 25 years.
I'd be willing to bet there was more ink expended over some functionary's threat to excommunicate Kerry than devoted to covering the ole' Pope's anti-war statements.
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Particularly about Wolf's suggestion that NOVAK is a good Catholic!
Not that is really means anything, but wasn't Novak Jewish? A Father McCloskey, who has gotten other high profile Jews, like Larry Kudlow to convert, got Novak to convert to Catholicism in 1998, and Novak joined Opus Dei?
What it is with guys who have "wolf" in their names?
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Compensation for being giant pussies?
Besides being an asshole, Wolf Blitzer strikes me as the kind of man who save his toe nail clippings in a shoe box, and then every year or two uses them to fabricate miniature doll houses.
I would hate them too, but that is simply stooping to their level. Attribute not to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Seething here as well on this beautiful spring day.
I think I'll shoot another email off to CNN suggesting that he found out from Bob whether his wife uses (or used) birth control, whether he has ever worn a condom, whether he goes to Mass every week and does not take communion unless he has been to confession, whether he goes to Mass on every holy day of obligation, whether he opposes the death penalty, whether he supports programs to feed and house the poor. Good Catholic then huh Wolf? Stupid fucking asshole...
Is it possible that the tide is turning? We've seen so many outrages that should have done it years ago, yet polls showing growing distrust of Bush are undeniable.
It may be that expensive energy will finally make Americans understand that their standard of living is going down due to Republican governance.
I hope CNN's ratings continue to plummet. Ted Turner must be revolted by what his little creation has become. I hope CNN fails, fails, fails miserably. They deserve it.
Res Ipsa Loquitor
I used to be a self-professed CNN junkie back in the 80's and early 90's. If my TV was on, it was pretty much tuned to CNN. Now, it's so god-awful it's unwatchable.
There is no reporting anymore, no news and sure as hell no information on current events - if there is an issue, it's covered by pundits and "analysts" they dig up from the dregs to spew their PR points. Or it's "infotainment" segments, usually on some gruesome crime story about serial killers, child molesters and celebrity trials. Don't even think about getting international news unless it's about Iraq or the Pope's funeral.
All I can say is thank god my cable provider offers digital music channels.
Leslie Blitzer is a dick. He is hurting America. That smug moron needs to get booted out of a job, as he is totally dead from the neck up.
TJ and Tena - cool! Where shall we have our Constitutional Convention?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
We don't need a constitutional convention. Our founding fathers presented us with a dandy.
Well, maybe we do away with the Electoral College.
Boy am I pissed. I will make a quilt for every founding member of Eschatonia.
BTW, referring to the earlier post by Atrios, lower down, about the Sheraton Rittenhouse:
Here in NYC, the famous Plaza Hotel is also going condo, at the end of April.
Just got done offering my slaps to CNN.
I'm weary of the media's mischaracterization of American Catholics and Catholicism. They have portrayed us as moving towards Protestant fundamentalism, when in fact this is only true of a very few Catholics. Blitzer clearly knows nothing of Catholicism and the people who were raised in it and/or practice it.
I've observed that CNN treats Catholicism as a modern offshoot of Protestantism, when in fact the opposite is true.
And the phrase 'Catholics and Christians': if anyone ever uses this again, I should personally like to remove their genitalia.
Here in NYC, the famous Plaza Hotel is also going condo
So is Liddy Dole's nether region. Unit names include Twat House, Santorum Corner, and Anal Leakage.
"Besides being an asshole, Wolf Blitzer strikes me as the kind of man who save his toe nail clippings in a shoe box, and then every year or two uses them to fabricate miniature doll houses."
spinoza
Best. Comment. This. Morning. 
QL - I will make a quilt for every founding member of Eschatonia.
Wow - refuge and a quilt too! That's almost too much to ask.
Thanks, QL.
I thought we already had our island of Eschatonia, right here.
Breakfast is served!
I don't have cable TV. The few times that I have watched CNN I found it to be a poor excuse for a "news channel". I wonder though, at one time it had much better ratings and viewership numbers than it does now. I wonder how much decline in viewership numbers had to do with the fact that CNN made the decision to go after the Fox news demographic. This in turn pissed off the liberals who have abandoned CNN. I just wish it would go away. CNN is the Joe Lieberman of cable stations.
I will make a quilt for every founding member of Eschatonia.
Nice!
I'll cook.
OT,
As we continue to goosestep toward fascism...
And the Verdict on Justice Kennedy Is: Guilty
Blitzer: You're too sensitive! I was only teasing!
It's that same, tiresome, childish bullying game that Limbaugh, O'Lielly, Shrub, all of them play.
When they are called on the hateful words that *just* slithered out of their pieholes, it becomes "I was kidding! Can't I kid? You don't understand the context, when I call you a failed Catholic or a worthless traitor on national TV!"
I suspect a flesh-splitting pop in the mouth would be not only appropriate and applauded by many but would also be protected in court.
Just once somebody should put them on notice that they run their traps irresponsibly at their own physical peril.
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And fuck you too!
I would hate them too, but that is simply stooping to their level. Attribute not to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
AB^3
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Sorry - horseshit. I don't think cockroaches are out to get me, but I hate them just the same.
These people are malignant.
QL - Shhhh. Don't you want to have a convention? We could wear hats!
And the phrase 'Catholics and Christians': if anyone ever uses this again, I should personally like to remove their genitalia.
Sallyh, Countess Aerohen
Sally, that's a tip of the hat and a wink to the fundies, a large portion of whom happen to hate Catholics and revile the Pope as an agent of Satan.
The only reason Catholics are being remotely tolerated is because Karl Rove sees their strategic importance as a Republican voting block given the Church's stance on gay marriage and abortion.
Everything else about the Church - especially its views on social justice issues like the death penalty, economic equality, family and medical leave, the "just war" theory and labor unions is completely at odds with conservatism.
i am telling you, wolf blitzer is NOT a journalist, he is a likkud agent undercover as a "news personality"
Geee, Leslie wasn't always a complete putz. I recall in the early day of "Chicken Noodle News" that he was an energetic reporter, quite effective, if a bit officious.
However, we see now that he has devolved into another "Hannity" with his quip back to Begala to "Don't be so sensitive."
Yes, he is now a "journalist" of the "Some Say" school now. Futher, he should be treated as such.
This fucking hooey between Leslie and Judy about foreign policy and the fake war on terrorism being Bu$h's STRENGTH is going to send me to the nervous hospital. The entire world hates us thanks to monkey boy cheneying up foreign policy and lying to the entire world to start his war in Iraq under false pretenses. I detest the talking butt-heads.
Res:
That would be wonderful. After the kids left home I stopped cooking. Literally. Didn't even have the gas turned on in my apartment the first six months we lived here. But I do love to eat.
Thanks Sallyh! You can ship the award to 666 Eschatonian Place, Moonbatville, NY.
Spinoza--you mean, as in, CASH???
Blitzer: You're too sensitive! I was only teasing!
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1.Where's your sense of humor, honey?
2.What're you? Frigid?
3.You gettin uppity on me, boy?
Yes, he is now a "journalist" of the "Some Say" school now. Futher, he should be treated as such.
I like that: "Some Say" Journalism.
Let's trademark it: CNN: 24/7 "Some Say" Journalism
The only reason Catholics are being remotely tolerated is because Karl Rove sees their strategic importance as a Republican voting block given the Church's stance on gay marriage and abortion.
Bingo! It hasn't been that long ago that JFK was reviled by *Christians* as a tool of the pope and not to be trusted. Fundie Catholics are nothing but useful idiots for Rove and CO.
Sallyh-
Cash would be good. Quatoos in mixed denominations?
i am telling you, wolf blitzer is NOT a journalist, he is a likkud agent undercover as a "news personality"
n69n
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Hmmm. He did sort burst onto the scene during Lebanon, or am I showing my ignorance?
n69n - bingo.
RIP
At least 42 schoolchildren were killed in northern Zambia when the truck they were travelling in crashed and overturned, police say...
I think that a lot of the media "organs" have made the decision to insult liberals and liberal viewpoints. CNN is one of them. Remember how MSNBC dropped Donahue, it's most highly rated show because it didn't want to be seen as the liberal news station? I also remember NYT ombudsman Okrent expressing annoyance over the fact that his tabloid was getting strident criticism from the left. Gee, that's some tough shit Daniel.
Shockingly, one of the better shows on CNN these days is Lou Dobbs (which doesn't say much for CNN).
He's the only person doing any reporting on serious issues like the deficit and the declining standard of living among working Americans.
Ralph Nader is running for Pope because there is no difference between the other candidates --after all he said ...they even dress alike
I'm sure Leslie will be making jokes about other people's faith as well
proving once again he is a total ass
"At least 42 schoolchildren were killed in northern Zambia when the truck they were travelling in crashed and overturned, police say..."
Samir
But they're brown children! Aren't we supposed to be getting rid of them? After all, they've long since ceased to be fetuses!
I just wish it would go away. CNN is the Joe Lieberman of cable stations.
Another Bruce
LOL - Good one.
And they should at least drop the tag line "CNN, the most trusted name in news".
Stinky--Lou lost creds with me the other day when he pronounced Bush's then 45 percent approval rating as 'not too bad.'
Is it possible that the tide is turning?
Yes, but it won't keep turning by itself. We all have to keep active so that the national face of the progressive movement (uh, that'd be the Dems, unfortunately) keeps coming around. They are getting tougher and smarter all the time (Go Howard!), but still commit terrible, corrupt, spineless acts (bankrupcy bill, ferinstance).
Speaking of wedge issues...
Three big cultural wedge issues are just there for the taking:
1. Catholics are NOT conservative. The entire Catholic ethos is opposed to money grubbing and wealth accumulation for its own sake, and emphasizes social justice (note to Catholic bashers--I'm talking about what normal people who are Catholics are raised hearing, not endorsing the instutional Church.)
2. Rightists are not "Libertarians". We need to emphasize our belief in individual liberty and the need to keep the state out of our personal decisions. If we can shed our vestigial "mommy state" language (that means you, too, Lakoff) we can peel off the self-styled libertarians.
3. Rightists are not "fiscal conservatives". Duh.
I'm guessing that Blitzer thinks to be a "good Catholic" you have to support child rape. Like most of the Bishops do.
Un the fuck beliveable.
UN THE FUCK BELIEVABLE.
Even the STUPIDEST MOST PROPAGANDIZED human will eventually go, WTF!!?? Won't they?
This thought is my only connection to sanity.
Oh, and Lime Rickey is god.
i am telling you, wolf blitzer is NOT a journalist, he is a likkud agent undercover as a "news personality"
n69n
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Hmmm. He did sort burst onto the scene during Lebanon, or am I showing my ignorance?
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so that's how he got his job?
i don't know if i believe that, then again nothing would surprise me in these strange days.
Speaking of being a 'good Catholic,' the Church's prohibitions on artificial birth control and abortion did not exist prior to the 19th century. Scholars consider the groups that brought this doctrine and teaching about were, well, in the words of a Catholic scholar I'm acquainted with, 'quite pervy.'
Holy Smoley! Had no idea it was this late until I was ready to offer good mornin! I don't know about these goofs on tv cos I don't watch "news",
but I had a lot of fun the last couple of weeks showing a few holier than now pals of mine the light-gently, of course. My favorite was a girlfriend who saved the rest of us our virtuous names by being more adventurous than us(back in the day). Although she would do anybody and everything, she was practicing good catholcism by not using condoms.
"i was only teasing"
Fucking scumbag
(1) These people are not worth hating.
(2) Wolf was joking.
(3) Re Roman Catholic doctrine: Telling third world women with way too many mouths to feed that practicing birth control jeopardizes their immortal souls is EVIL. It does not come from God. If anything comes from Satan, this does.
Good, I'm glad to see Begala take it to Blitzer. I really hate that "liberal network"...
Speaking of being a 'good Catholic,' the Church's prohibitions on artificial birth control and abortion did not exist prior to the 19th century.
And Aquinas thought life began with the fetuses "quickening", i.e., when the mother could feel it move.
I admit that I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but CNN doesn't need to know that.
logorrhea
Cut'n'pasted, bro.
And what the fuck is up with Clinton and w being pals.
QL in NY
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
And YOU, money-changers in the temple of spirit!
I can't wait for this fight.
Spinoza--I get the impression that 'Summa Theologica' is no longer on the reading list for the Opus Dei-entrenched Church 'leaders.'
"And what the fuck is up with Clinton and w being pals."
I actually think this is a clever move on Bill's part. Compare and contrast the reception and behavior of Clinton and Chimpy in Rome.
Quite honestly, I think Clinton is trying to make Republicans and their policies look bad. Whatever you might think of Clinton--and I certainly have my misgivings about him--he's very intelligent and extremely shrewd. I wouldn't count his manipulating this situation out.
"You're not a good journalist, Wolf."
::pregnant pause::
"...I was only teasing! Hahahahahahahaha! Sheesh. Don't be so damned sensitive."
BTW, Footloose, 'good morning!' is certainly appropriate here on the Left Coast
Shockingly, one of the better shows on CNN these days is Lou Dobbs (which doesn't say much for CNN).
He's the only person doing any reporting on serious issues like the deficit and the declining standard of living among working Americans.
Stinky
Unfortuately it's also the official program of The Minuteman Project.
Another thing that deeply irritated me about Leslie the moron was his week-long "report" from Iraq on the 2nd year anniversery of the invasion. In all that time he couldn't seem to find a single angry Iraqi or soldier. He was nothing but a mouthpiece for the military brass who are professional liars and propagandists. What a waste.
My e-mail to CNN:
What's the difference between CNN and Fox? Sorry, but I've lost my micrometer.
When called out for making outrageous remarks, Blitzer, like Rush Limbaugh and/or Ann Coulter, retreats behind the stony wall of "just teasing," "just kidding," "can't you take a joke?" The answer to the last is "no," because it was not intended in as a joke. It was tacit character defamation.
Why has Jon Stewart become the "most trusted name in news?" I wonder.
Where is a liberal catholic organization DEMANDING Wolf Blitzer publically appologize to Begalla
Quite honestly, I think Clinton is trying to make Republicans and their policies look bad
Sally, he doesn't need to lift a finger. Listening to poppy and Jr. destroy the English language and their obvious irritation at having to schlep over to Rome was apparent in every photo I saw.
"Whatever you might think of Clinton--and I certainly have my misgivings about him--he's very intelligent and extremely shrewd."
I can't stomach hearing him go on and on about what a great time he has with that lying sack of shit, Bush Sr.
I am not sure what he hopes to gain by it. Many of us have been waiting years for Clinton to tip his hand as to why he is so damn nice to the Bushies.
Really good article on what the fundoids are really up to:
The Crusaders
Happened to see this last nite when I was flippin' channels- Conan O'Brien brings up the fact that Bush was booed at Pope's funeral...Bush turns to Condi and says, What's boo mean in Itailian? nyuk, nyuk, nyuk!!
Re Roman Catholic doctrine: Telling third world women with way too many mouths to feed that practicing birth control jeopardizes their immortal souls is EVIL. It does not come from God. If anything comes from Satan, this does.
M
Or even a modern-day American woman in an era where the median housing price requires two wage earners to pay a mortgage and day care for two kids that tops $1000 a month is considered "affordable".
I marvel at how people can come up with the time, energy and money to raise one child in this day and age.
"I can't stomach hearing him go on and on about what a great time he has with that lying sack of shit, Bush Sr."
Diplomacy. Something the Bushes have NO CLUE about.
Yeah, I see Bill workin' it for Hillary.
Footloose,
Did Boosh really get booed at the pope-a-dope funeral? Funny we never hear about that in the wall to wall coverage. Not.
Bigvic--he was indeed. While he was in seclusion and booed when seen by the crowds, Clinton was out walking the city, meeting with the people, and having a blast. The Europeans were happy to see him. Bush, eh, not so much.
Apologies for link whoring but I put up this diary at Dkos today and I think it really needs to get out.
Daily Kos Diary: "FBI Detain 2 16-year-old Girls as "suicide bombers""
A summary:
"[T]he girl and another 16-year-old are being called would-be suicide bombers and are being held in an immigration detention center in Pennsylvania."
"According to a government document provided to The New York Times by a federal official earlier this week, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has asserted that both girls are "an imminent threat to the security of the United States based on evidence that they plan to be suicide bombers." No evidence was cited, and federal officials will not comment on the case."
But this should tell you something about either the phoniness of this story or the incompetence of our "fixed-up" F.B.I.:
"Among the unanswered questions they raised was why, if she was really a suspect, no F.B.I. agent had shown up to search her school locker or question her classmates, who sent her letters of support."
And why, may I ask, were these two 16-year-old girls shipped off to a facility in Pennsylvania when there's one right in Brooklyn.
"Her daughter, she said, told her during a brief detention visit that F.B.I. interrogators had warned that unless she confessed to terrorist ties, her two youngest siblings, who are American citizens, would be placed in foster care and her parents sent back to Bangladesh without them."
This is cross-posted at my blog...and there's more info at both places...if you have a dkos account can you please recommend this diary...It's got 20 so far...but it really needs wider attention...and if you have a blog please blog about it.
And Aquinas thought life began with the fetuses "quickening", i.e., when the mother could feel it move.
And abortion was not considered a grave sin before quickening. It is not at all surprising that the church's teaching that life begins at conception came about the same time women were beginning to agitate for more freedom, mid 1800s.
From an earlier thread, Schlafly has given us our rallying cry:
"Confronting the Judicial War on Faith" --
-- should become --
Confronting the Evangelical War on the Judiciary.
Let the body count begin.
Lou lost creds with me the other day when he pronounced Bush's then 45 percent approval rating as 'not too bad.'
But isn't that accurate? I mean, 45% approval isn't too bad, considering what a complete and utter failure as President Bush has been. Heck, not only is it not too bad, I'd go farther and say its not remotely bad enough.
At a minimum, can we start to plan for a Peak Oil Eschaton Community?
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I was thinking about that yesterday after reading that Rolling Stone article on peak oil. If it is true that we are in for radical restructuring of the economy and social upheaval, it would behoove us to start making plans now for sustainable communities.
Yeah, I see Bill workin' it for Hillary.
Footloose
Yep.
Sounds right.
OT
I'm watching "Searching For Bobby Fischer" on HBO2. What happened to that story about him being on a terrorist watch list? Or something like that.
It would be nice if that fiction that the libertarians call the "free market" actually existed. If there were such a thing, there would already be a cable news station with a liberal point of view that covered important national international news. I would get a cable subscription just to see that.
Someone brought this up the other night (I'm sorry, senility has set in.) Should be in the papers, but of course it's not.
Rainmaker- Agree that a few civics lessons are in order for these numbskulls who devour hook,line, and sinker what rushbillphylissannmichele
tell them. Someone pointed out the other day too that this all could be set-up for '08 (running for re-election cos officially appointed in '02)
Oh please, oh please. I'm not Catholic. I don't believe in the supernatural. I don't believe in gods and goddesses and leprachauns and unicorns. However, the Catholic church is being grossly, unfairly misrepresented. Sex and sexual behavior is a tiny part of the ethos. Like many other religions, the Catholic church does a lot of good. It has provided inner-city education, desegregated education, charity medical care and other really fine stuff for many centuries. If they want to tell their followers to take their chances with the rhythm method, then so be it. It's none of your business what other people do in their bedrooms.
Like any institution, they've made mistakes over the years. Some of them were horrible. They handled the child molestation problem horribly. However, there is much good that the Church has done and focusing solely on the sex aspects distorts and marginalizes much that is good.
Saturday! Saturday! Saturday!
Saturday! Saturday! Saturday!
Saturday! Saturday! Saturday night's all right!
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SHG:
Here's a link to a proposed Peak Oil Community in Ohio.
cmd--I agree, 45 percent isn't low enough. I would guess he needs to get below 36 percent to be considered nonrecoverable.
Speaking of being a 'good Catholic,' the Church's prohibitions on artificial birth control and abortion did not exist prior to the 19th century.
This is almost entirely false, the Church has prohibited any modification of the sex act to avoid conception for many centuries, ditto with abortion. It wasn't until the time you suggest that the earliest abortions were prohibited as homicide rather than as a sexual sin akin to contraception.
Shit, didn't work. Once more, with feeling...
The Constitution Restoration Act
Sally, thanks for the link to the Rolling Stone article. That was chilling.
Good morning/afternoon all.
I'd hate to see what one of Bush's failures would look like.
Hmmm. Iraq. Clear Skies. No Child Left Behind. Healthy Forests. Social Security.
Other than successfully passing his tax cuts, has he *had* any successes?
I'm guessing that Blitzer thinks to be a "good Catholic" you have to support child rape. Like most of the Bishops do.
Well, maybe not. But you certainly don't punish the 'princes of the Church' for aiding and abetting.
Sallyh: cmd--I agree, 45 percent isn't low enough. I would guess he needs to get below 36 percent to be considered nonrecoverable.
It's probably already there, if truth were to ever be told.
The nice thing about turd polishers is that if they're diligent, plenty of shit sticks to them in the process.
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CMdicely--by 'many centuries,' I'm curious as to when this first occurred. By any chance, was it concurrent with the Black Death in Europe in the 14th century?
Other than successfully passing his tax cuts, has he *had* any successes?
Passing tax cuts is a success of similar magnitude to getting your children to eat their Halloween candy.
Sally - that was a good article. Do you know these Dominionists also want to bring back slavery. Really. Wanna get really scared?
Logorrhea--it's pretty downright terrifying.
SteveLG 
The pope is a tool of Satan. Catholics will be the first ones swallowed by the beast when the rapture comes.
Catholics are NOT conservative. The entire Catholic ethos is opposed to money grubbing and wealth accumulation for its own sake, and emphasizes social justice (note to Catholic bashers--I'm talking about what normal people who are Catholics are raised hearing, not endorsing the instutional Church.)
Despite the fact that the institutional Church also pushes the parts of the doctrine that liberals disagree with, what you say is also largely true of the institutional Church as well as "normal people who are Catholics". However, since it doesn't fit into the American media's scripted narrative of the culture wars which puts liberal ideals on one side and Christianity on the other, they just don't cover the day-to-day liberal stands of the institutional Church, because it messes up their nice, clean, well-oiled narrative with messy facts.
QuiltLady- the picture alone is scary! I started to read-will save.
Fresh sheets upstairs. We've got Joe Klein wrapped up in 'em and we're beating him bloody.
...almost said "senseless." Heh.
Wow, sallyh. Thanks. Did you catch this bit in the Rolling Stone article:
While the dominionists rely on grass-roots activists to fight their battles, they are backed by some of America's richest entrepreneurs. Amway founder Rich DeVos, a Kennedy ally who's the leading Republican contender for governor of Michigan, has tossed more than $5 million into the collection plate. Jean Case, wife of former AOL chief Steve Case -- whose fortune was made largely on sex-chat rooms -- has donated $8 million. And Tom Monaghan, founder of Domino's Pizza, is a major source of cash for Focus on the Family, a megaministry working with Kennedy to eliminate all public schools.
Boycotting Domino's might be in order.
By Ba'al, QL, that is terrifying.
However, since it doesn't fit into the American media's scripted narrative of the culture wars...
Yeah, but it should fit into our (and the Democratic Party's) narrative, that's for damn sure.
TJ--and here I'd only been boycotting Domino's because their pizza sucks.
Catholics are NOT conservative. The entire Catholic ethos is opposed to money grubbing and wealth accumulation for its own sake, and emphasizes social justice (note to Catholic bashers--I'm talking about what normal people who are Catholics are raised hearing, not endorsing the instutional Church.)
That's why they are evil! The pope opposed the war in Iraq and opposed the death penalty! Can you believe that? We should be executing kids as young as ten years old for fuck's sake.
I'm truely amazed that CNN could find a flaming wanker named Richard
Res Ipsa Loquitor:
I'm sitting here seething, actually. I already called CNN. I don't know what else to do. Is there a place that lists the people who advertise on "Inside Politics?" I might have to give them a piece of my mind.
The solution is very simple. CNN has had a serious drop in viewership, mainly because of the pull of FAUX & CNN's unsuccessful efforts to emulate them, & thus is very vulnerable.
If we progressive launch a campaign of continuous attacks against CNN & their advertisers, like the right has done against the MSM, CNN will either crumble or turn left. If we left them know that progressives, who are a sizeable percentage of their viewership, find their current right wing tilt unacceptable & thus are bailing out, they will capitulate.
So keep sending them & their advertisers critical emails. It will take some time but they will get the message.
Good Hunting
Carter
If it is true that we are in for radical restructuring of the economy and social upheaval, it would behoove us to start making plans now for sustainable communities.
I had an interesting conversation on a plane yesterday with a gentleman who works for a company that's a supplier to the construction industry. His gut feeling, based on where he's selling his products, is that most of the better builders are working in the cities now - and not in the burbs. With oil at $100/barrel, the exurbs are truly fucked.
And would I hate to be GM or Ford.
Thanks TJ I appreciate it.
The Crusaders [link]
Sallyh, Countess Aerohen
If this doesn't scare the shit out of everyone...
"I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag, and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen and coming again, with life and liberty for all who believe."
"...with life and liberty for all who believe."
SteveLG:
What footloose said.
Sallyh--
We hardly ever get pizza, but just figured it was worth pointing it out.
(btw, I posted a link to the Rolling stone article and quiltlady's article on my blog. Thanks for the tips. I'm trying to gather articles about the fundies--no mean feat, I can assure you.)
Sallyh,
Thanks for link to RS article.
Yes, the heretical dominionist movement - I try always to refer to it thus - is so unbelievable. It's a distortion of Calvin - or possibly taking all the worst ideas and packaging a "religion." It's as though Lutheranism were about Luther's harrangs against the Jews or Roman Catholicism were about the Crusades or the Inquisition.
I will read later.
Gotta get back outside. Garden wasn't properly put to bed last fall, as the gardener was out campaigning for John Forbes Kerry - and then contemplating a retreat to the desert ...
Yes, the heretical dominionist movement - I try always to refer to it thus
I always try to say something like this, too. Let's all stop referring to the theocrats as "Christians". They're heretics, or cult members. They're misguided souls. But they don't get to wrap themselves in the entire history of Christianity--we'll let them keep the bad parts (inquisition, KKK, heartless Calvanism, witch burning...)--and we can lay claim to Jesus' social gospel.
It's a small pebble in the political pond that could have a big effect in a relatively short time if we all start doing it. You'd be surprised how fast this could get into the mainstream if everyone did it.
CMdicely--by 'many centuries,' I'm curious as to when this first occurred. By any chance, was it concurrent with the Black Death in Europe in the 14th century?
No, from the earliest days of the institutional Church -- Augustine, for instance, wrote quite strongly against it, and his understanding of the issue was largely the guiding force in evaluating sexual sin for quite some time. In fact, the first official statement of the Church on the issue not in complete condemnation of every effort to avoid conception while engaging in sex was Pope Pius XII in his "Address to the Midwives" (1951), endorsing periodic abstinence methods used by married couples, when undertaken for legitimate reasons.
If anything, the trend in the modern Church -- while artificial birth control remains prohibited -- has been to de-emphasize the formerly held primacy of the procreative function. From Pius XI in Casti Connubii in 1930 on, the trend has been to recognize the "unitive" function as equal to or perhaps even superior to the procreative function, with the latter important as a component of the former, rather than on its own; if that trend continues, the Church's teaching about the role of sex and its teaching about the birth control will come into increasing tension; I wouldn't be surprised if some Pope in the near future dusted off the 1966 report of the Vatican's Birth Control Commission to resolve that tension.
And why not remind ourselves: Thomas Sowell is an idiot, a liar, and a tool.
I picked up the local paper and his column is in it. As usual, he's fuller of shit than usual, I mean he's usually full of shit, but this week he's even more full of the usual shit.
I just re-read the piece to make sure, and sure enough, he's sure full of shit, for sure.
Have I mentioned that I can't stand him. Haven't been able to stand him for years.
since this is a cnn thread, digby has an earlier post re a limbaugh spin cycled thru darin kagan. now that she's apparently engaged to him, i suspect cnn's audience will be hearing more of this:
Pillow Talking Points
According to TBOGG, Rush said this yesterday about the Darling Martinez memo:
What was wrong with this? What's wrong with the Republicans having political strategy sessions? They didn't in this case, but even if they had, so what?
Here's what the future ex-Mrs Limbaugh (thanks GL) said:
Basically a political memo that said the fight over the removing Schiavo's feeding tube is a great political issue, and a tough issue for Democrats. News of the day, comes out of Mel Martinez' office. He's fired an aide who allegedly wrote this. Ed Henry question -- what's the big deal?
The media is working full on to politicize the naming of a new pope.
On NPR today a WP reporter suggested the chruch needs to have a "transitional" pope from Italy. I guess the point is to move more right and supportive of US policy. Sick bastards!
Everyday, they edge closer to abyss.
Let 'em. And their viewers (all 12 of them) will become re-acquianted with their gag reflex.
Their time is getting short, I can smell it.
". Let's all stop referring to the theocrats as "Christians". They're heretics, or cult members."
You bet.
Another manifestation of this culture's tendency to overdo everything and its desire for a quick fix and easy answers.
Wolf and CNN have just crossed the Fox line.
Maybe the crossed it a while ago, who knows -- we cut cable last year.
I haven't watched CNN for ONE MINUTE in several months.
I haven't clicked on CNN.com ONCE in several months.
I am still well-informed, up to date, and happier than before. Even meta-reading or meta-watching ("I'm not watching these clueless idiots for myself, I'm watching to see what BS other people are being told") became a joyless, fruitless chore after a while.
CNN is toast in my book. Has been for a while.
I know this is a dead thread, but I've been told I wasn't a good Catholic because I'm a feminist. Outrageous.
Hit 'em where it hurts: STOP WATCHING THEM!!!!!!
When is a guest of one of these assholes like Blitzer or Hannity or O'Reilly going to just get up and punch one of the sumbitches in the nose?
While Paul Begala is not my favorite, I hope he kicks Leslie's ass one day soon. What a pig fucker.
Hit 'em where it hurts: STOP WATCHING THEM!!!!!!
AB^3 - 3:09 pm
a nice, hugely ineffectual idea...
these folks do not need ratings, because they are subsidized from outside the marketplace...
It is indeed striking how the SCLM never wants to talk about the Church and the pope's opposition to capital punishment and the Iraq war. All you ever hear about is abortion, abortion, abortion, stem-cell research. The media doesn't like to talk about the Church and the pope's opposition to contraception much, either, probably because Americans, including Catholics, regard that as "out there."
As Will Ferrell told Christina Applegate in ANCHORMAN, "Why don't you just go back to your home on Whore Island??"
Whenever the right gets their panties in a ruffle they want people to pay and everyone in the media does whatever they can to appease them.
We on the left get, "don't be so sensitive."
FUCK THEM!!!!!!
Way to go Begala.
Judy, who would have thought when this president took office foreign policy would emerge as his strong point with the American public given his lack of experience when he was governor of Texas...
Ok, I'm off to shoot myself now. It's official, the entire world has gone insane. It was nice knowing you all.
For the record, I'm kidding. At least about shooting myself. I somehow believe that we are all going to wake up from this nightmare.
He's the only person doing any reporting on serious issues like the deficit and the declining standard of living among working Americans.
Dobbs is an enabler for white supremacists. He can fuck right off, along with 'not entirely a good Jew' Blitzer.
On NPR today a WP reporter suggested the chruch needs to have a "transitional" pope from Italy. I guess the point is to move more right and supportive of US policy.
Not necessarily. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for Carlo Martini, who's no conservative.
Paul Begala is twice the man, and twice the Catholic that Bob Novak is.
The only reason, and I will bet on this, Novak gave up his Jewish faith and joined the Catholic church is their policy of washing away your sins by the easy method of CONFESSION.
Novak had, and still has, a lot of confessing to do.
I despise wolf blitzer....and lou dobs...and cnn.
go daily show.
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Wolf Blitzer is not a good American. He is a media whore. Not only that he is the worst kind of pustulent, syphilitic, gleety, AIDS hazard of a media whore you could ever hope your country's discourse wouldn't be cursed with.
FUCK YOU Wolf Blitzer.
BTW: Paul. if you don't want to come off like a little liberal pussy, don't say "goodness gracious" when someone insults you on the air. For fuck's sake!
the liberal Begala wasn't a "good Catholic."
Oh, yes - to these idiots, you're not considered a good Catholic if you're not a sexist, homophobic robot who follows orders without question.
Fuck Bush, Blitzer and the whole wingnut population with a white hot poker.
I've been told I wasn't a good Catholic because I'm a feminist
I was told that.
So I chose feminism.
On another note: I've read where HITLER liked to be called "Wolf."
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