I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
yay?
i had the Culture of Doom once, growing between my toes. But i got better!
People who invoke the so-called "Culture of Death" belong to the "Culture of Strawmen".
"Just because I don't believe in your god does not mean I believe in your devil." Repeat this again and again.
Culture of Death reminds me of the rubberneckers on a freeway wreck. Guess they are hoping to see a leg, arm, or something.
do they actually believe they can start the armageddon ball rolling?
do they actually believe they can start the armageddon ball rolling?
If by "armegeddon" you mean reduce this planet to a feudal hellhole wherin 90% of us live short, brutal servile existences, they not only can, i fear that they are well on their way to victory.
So many of the morans are going to be shocked to find that their Masters consider them to be no less expendable than anyone else.
I hear that you can get "armaggedon balls" on e-bay for $5.99.
her eyes:
They believe the armageddon ball is already rolling, and it's their duty to get themselves and others out of its way. THey say this quite openly.
"If you live in this world,
You're feelin' the change of the guard...."
I was raised bible thumpin baptist... those fundamentalists actually sought out rejection and ridicule as a way to be closer to God. I can't see any sign that things have changed. Everytime someone says shut the hell up tothem they feel that is a sign that they are truly combatting the devil!
I don't know what can be done with these fols. You can't talk to them, after all, they speak with GOD.
Do not taunt Armageddon Ball.
I think you just search for "Jeff Gannon"...
the most dangerous fools are the ones that believe god talks to them.
I don't know what can be done with these fols. You can't talk to them, after all, they speak with GOD.
Lets give 'em Texas.
Tell 'em they can live anywhere in the good old U.S. of A., as long as it's in Texas.
cory, i hope you are wrong, but i fear you are right.
er, correct, i mean.
Whoa, Snake King is on!
DeLay's not showing in the credits so far.
Tell 'em they can live anywhere in the good old U.S. of A., as long as it's in Texas.
we can tell them it is god's plan that they live in texas--but we gotta give Tena & the Texan embarrassed by Bush, and all the other smart folks time to get out of there.
And two people got eaten already!
oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. Revelations? On NBC? An Oxford-educated nun spouting about the end times?
I'll pass. No more religion, please. Please?
Yup. And more will follow, but what about the dead in Iraq?
Van Helsing is on Starz.
It looks...very expensive.
we can tell them it is god's plan that they live in texas--but we gotta give Tena & the Texan embarrassed by Bush, and all the other smart folks time to get out of there.
No problem. They can even come and bunk with me until they get settled. But, yeah, the next time you see one, tell them it's God's plan that they live in Texas.
cory, i hope you are wrong, but i fear you are right.
er, correct, i mean.
That's better....
Sometimes in those dark 2:43 AM staring at the shadows on the ceiling nights, i wonder what i might have become if i had simply been able to lie my ass off with impunity. All sorts of money there for the taking if you have no conscience; televangelist, talk-to-the-dead racket, Republican. Oh, the greenbacks are out there in piles.
But here i am with my '96 Civic, wondering if MAYBE The Missus and i can scrape together a down payment for a small house next year,and should we bother since we will likely lose it in the coming second Great Depression.
Fuck all; who knew that the American Dram would be flushed down the tilet like soiled TP?
I think you just search for "Jeff Gannon"...
Frank Rich: The Rude Pundit with a more diplomatic vocabulary.
Shit. I just paid $2.38 for regular - on Long Island. If that isn't armagedon, I don't don't what is. Yes, folks, Exxon will bring the end of times.
Amazing - the practiced for the Pope's passing. I am not sure but I think profiting from the death of a religious figure might just be a sin in the eyes of the Lord.
Sallyh,
These movies are so bad it is simply ridiculous. The thing is, and I don't mean to demean anyone watching them, but there are good scripts out there: if they will only open up the floodgates and let them in.
Writers create good stories. Even good science fiction stories and there is no market. So, we are left with cliche'-ridden, ill-conceived, and desperately grotesque SciFi Channel movies.
It is not that the productions are that bad: they are not. The stories and the dialogue are simply ridiculous.
But I guess it is like everything else. Everyone can write, so what is the big deal?
Lima--$2.63 for 87 in LA today. I live in one of the cheaper parts of the city, too--husband paid $2.71 yesterday.
But here i am with my '96 Civic, wondering if MAYBE The Missus and i can scrape together a down payment for a small house next year,and should we bother since we will likely lose it in the coming second Great Depression.
I'm with you, cory. We've been saving to buy ourselves. But what happens if it all goes to hell and the economy tanks or we have to flee the country? It's a horrible way to live, feeling this uncertain about the future.
"Tilet" was a typo; i meant "terlet." I will stick with American Dram, tho.
You know, the most moving bit of the Popeapalooza this week was the section with prayers from the Eastern Rite patriarchs in communion with Rome, while the Orthodox patriarchs stood in attendance.
It reminds you that Christianity is, at heart, a middle-eastern religion, with so much in common with the other faiths of the region. And that the particular variety that's metastasised in America is too often a virulent parody that takes the worst of the Roman martial death-cultism that was incorporated into Christianity to make it palatable as it spread from its origins.
I suspect that if you showed the 700 Club to the Coptic-Catholic Patriarch of Alexandria, H.B. Stephanos II Ghattas -- aka the beardy guy with the fantastic hat who said the Eastern prayers over the Pope's coffin -- he wouldn't recognise it as the same belief system as his own. And he'd be right.
Just found this:
"Our country owed all her troubles to [Lincoln], and God simply made me the instrument of his punishment." --John Wilkes Booth
Just substitute some poor judge's name for Lincoln's. You can hear the same words coming out of some nut's mouth after the likes of cretins at that conference rile him up.
If by "armegeddon" you mean reduce this planet to a feudal hellhole wherin 90% of us live short, brutal servile existences, they not only can, i fear that they are well on their way to victory.
armegeddon = i'm a gettin
deomcrats and liberals:
i'm a gettin screwed
and repukes and fundies:
i'm a gettin all your money and takin over the world.
DWD--I agree, and I do love wonderful movies. However, I never pass up an opportunity to watch anything with large, hungry reptiles.
jesus is not coming back. and you will not win the lottery.
I want to hear more about that fugitive cardinal from Boston who covered up for all those pedophiles- priests. How come the Pope didn't hand him over to the police?
Frank Rich: The Rude Pundit with a more diplomatic vocabulary.
Has anyone figured out the identity of the rude one? Maybe it is Frank Rich, letting off steam.
Cory--I plan to keep my 98 Corolla until it disintegrates. I think Civics hold on for the long haul, too.
Why the obsession with death? Religious fanaticism alone doesn't explain it.
Sallyh, move to Long Island. Looks like I got a good deal. Still, also looks like armagedon is on its way thanks to Exxon et al.
I want to hear more about that fugitive cardinal from Boston who covered up for all those pedophiles- priests. How come the Pope didn't hand him over to the police?
Because, dear sir, there is only one organization more mafia-like than the actual mafia, and that is the church. And La Cosa Nostra protects its own.
Hell, Cardinal Law was two steps ahead of the U.S. Attorney, who was going to haul his ass in front of a grand jury, when he got his promotion. Now he's in a place from which he can never be extradited.
Van Helsing is on Starz.
Okay, I love Hugh Jackman as much as the next gal (in fact, he'd be an excellent nominee for LJ's hunkblogging) but that movie was spectacularly, ridiculously, Battleship Earth level bad.
However, I never pass up an opportunity to watch anything with large, hungry reptiles.
You must be perpetually glued to CSPAN.
Van Helsing's a bad movie trying to be a good movie. Snake King is a bad movie having no pretensions to anything else.
That was one bigass snake they just showed, BTW.
jesus is not coming back. and you will not win the lottery.
The lottery = poverty tax
Casino gambling, too.
Res - and I heard he is one of the nine who will elect the next Pope. But, really, it doesn't matter who puts that robe on - they are all the same. Hierarchy and male, among other things - the good old boys club.
frank rich is enought to make me forgive the times employing that clown bobo...
Frank Rich is simply one of the greatest. I love his columns. One of the only reasons I read the NY Times.
Get local news and read progressive viewpoints from around the region that you’ve never heard before. Pacific Northwest Portal is a new website providing news, views, and resources for progressives in Washington, Oregon, and Idaho. We currently syndicate 24 blogs on our site and provide links to 72 others, with more on the way.
Friday night in a suburb in Pittsburgh going to get pizza in the business district my family spyed two young mormons on their mission. They were talking to one guy, then one of the mormons trailed away walking away from his pal and away from us, he was setting up his trail to intercept us. He did, and I just kept saying No No No and we all kept walking, me holding my 2 year old, my wife, and two girls. It was more aggressive than usual. I don't these two were new and over enthusiastic or if the word's out, GO FOR IT. I surmised to my wife that they thrive on rejection: they have to be trained for it and taught that it is good, exciting, a challenge. That's why I just say no, cause I believe they want me to be rude or sensational, anything to let them engage me. Not worth it.
A couple of years ago two mormons kept coming to our house to talk to us about the bible and pray with us. My wife didn't want to be rude, but didn't want to just say no. So they'd come and get rejected for now, and come back,and back....eventually we did say, hey we are not interested. No lie .... the mormon cried. We had thrown him a bone and, in his mind, he lost us.
frank rich is enought to make me forgive the times employing that clown bobo...
Short of firing The Queen of All Iraq (and I'm not even convinced that would be enough), NOTHING will make me forgive the Times for employing that assclown. Did you see the column he crapped out today?
MH - that was hilarious!
i have a theory on this.
we as culture have pushed death into the background of our lives. we don't like to think about it, nobody ever wants it to happen. we, as americans, always want things to go our way. dying is not one of those things we want. so we keep ignoring it, it is treated as taboo, and not accepted for the natural part of life that it is.
wakes are short, bereavement time almost non-existent. and many do not choose the field of gerontology because, well, ultimately *all* their patients die.
Death is seen as a "failure."
Because it is put on the back burner, and not thought or talked about (and this has been steadily happening since people stopped being "laid out" at home, when a prominent figure dies, the public goes beserk.
The terry schiavo thing, was another matter. that was brought to the forefront because it was purely political.
Res - and I heard he is one of the nine who will elect the next Pope.
He is definitely electing the next pope. He and Cardinal O'Connor of NY were JPII's Luca Brazzi here in America. One of the people they smacked down hard was Cardinal Bernadin of Chicago, who deserved this, apparently, for suggesting that Vatican II was a good thing.
Hell, Cardinal Law was two steps ahead of the U.S. Attorney, who was going to haul his ass in front of a grand jury, when he got his promotion. Now he's in a place from which he can never be extradited.
Is that true? Does he never step foot out of Vatican City and into Rome proper? We do have an extradition treaty with Italy don't we?
but that movie was spectacularly, ridiculously, Battleship Earth level bad.
Ouch, that hurt.
tj, he is a complete moron but as a replacement for safire we didn't give up any yards...he trys to be a moderate something or other but he is a twit...
Res - is Law et al Opus Dei?
“Why has our society so meekly acquiesced in the convenient fiction that religious views have some sort of right to be respected automatically and without question? [I]f I have a view that is part of my religion, critics must respectfully tiptoe away or brave the indignation of society at large. Why are religious opinions off limits in this way? Why do we have to respect them, simply because they are religious?”
"Dolly and the Cloth Heads," Richard Dawkins. March 8, 1997.
>but that movie was spectacularly, ridiculously, Battleship Earth level bad.
It seemed liked an imitation of League of Extraoridinary Gentlemen, and then Mr. Hyde shows up...and I am gasping and gaping at the abyss of awfulness...
24 minutes in and I am agast!
i have made my red white and blue "thanks for voting republican" stickers. will be posting them wherever i buy gas.
"You must be perpetually glued to CSPAN."
C'mon, even I've got standards. They're low, but I have them!
singe - i like that idea!
frank rich is enought to make me forgive the times employing that clown bobo...
Yeah - but *nothing* can make up for Kneepads.
My 1989 Civic has 225,000 miles on it. Had to replace the engine at 210,000, and the body's beginning to rust, but I think I can get another year out of it. Not bad, in Massachusetts.
Van Helsing is on Starz.
It looks...very expensive.
Nancy Richardson | Email | Homepage | 04.09.05 - 9:15 pm | #
Van Helsing is on Starz.
Okay, I love Hugh Jackman as much as the next gal (in fact, he'd be an excellent nominee for LJ's hunkblogging) but that movie was spectacularly, ridiculously, Battleship Earth level bad.
TJ | Email | Homepage | 04.09.05 - 9:25 pm |
I'm not sure it was that bad, Van Helsing had David Wenham it, and even with a horrible haircut, he's adorable. But I kept getting distracted by the unbelievablity of Kate Beckinsale's outfit. I'm sure I'll try out that outfit when I'm fending off the Republican undead-especially in the middle of winter.
"Res - is Law et al Opus Dei?"
Think so. A plurality of the inner circle is connected to Opus Dei.
I'm thinking conclave must closely resemble 'Reservoir Dogs.'
Is that true? Does he never step foot out of Vatican City and into Rome proper? We do have an extradition treaty with Italy don't we?
flory ... Vatican City is not part of Italy. It is sovereign. And I don't think we're sending anyone in there to collect Cardinal Law, nor will they be returning him voluntarily.
Lima ... I don't know much about Opus Dei, to tell you the truth, other than they are very hard-ass conservative.
Goddamned Law being front and center at that funeral was a big fat "fuck you" to American Catholics, especially to the ones who were abused and raped by priests, which includes one of my friends, who was raped by a priest when she was NINE YEARS OLD.
But putting Law out there was no surprise. The way the church treated the "scandal" was a big fat "fuck you" from day one.
Let's start a movement to draft Paul Krugman for prez. Bob Herbert for VP. They could find Frank Rich a spot in their admin.
Tap Maureen Dowd for Homeland Security. With her fashion obsession (such as sweaters and shag rugs), she'd come up with a simply smashing terror color chart.
Well, okay, Dowd was a joke, but Krugman and Herbert would be as good as anything the Dems have.
Strange. Rich forgot to mention the Left's "feasting upon the decomposing bodies" of US servicemen.
Maybe that's what "atrios" was thinking of?
he trys to be a moderate something
Not to harp on this, but Bobo does not try to be a moderate. He tries to pretend to be a moderate, while quietly shoving a knife into the Dems every change he gets. Example, today, he spends the first 3/4 of his column talking about how the Schiavo mess turned off Americans, who are "naturally conservative" or some such rot, and then played his trump card:
This does not mean good news for Democrats. That party is at risk of going into a death spiral. The Democrats lost white working-class voters by 23 percentage points in the last election, and now the party is being led by people who are guaranteed to alienate those voters even more: the highly educated and secular university-town elites who follow Howard Dean and believe Bush hatred and stridency are the outward signs of righteousness.
He is an asshole. And he didn't replace Safire, some other asshole named John Tierney was selected to replace him.
lima, i got it from blogger at another blog who saw one when he was getting gas today. we're everywhere, we're everywhere...and the next thing you know my printer started churning them out like in some sort of twilight zone episode...may park my car by the air hose and hang around to see some reactions...
MH--I have the misfortunte to encounter these clowns on campus from time to time. I always wish I had my large dog with me, and a Super Soaker (not permitted on campus! Can you believe!)
Is Law Opus Dei? No, but he's a sympathiser:
In January [1997], at the funeral of Rev. Salvador Ferigle, who brought Opus Dei to the United States from Spain in 1949, Law hailed Opus Dei as a vital part of the church.
"What is Opus Dei?" Law told congregants at St. Aidan's Church in Brookline. "It is about the preparing for the coming of the Lord. It is about reflecting the life and love of the Lord in our lives. It is about saying Jesus Christ, yesterday, today and forever."
Speaking of the culture of death and the threats against judges, words do have meaning:
"It is awkward to talk about hatred between Hutus and Tutsis, because words changed meaning after the killings. Before, we could fool around among ourselves and say we were going to kill them all, and the next moment we would join them to share some work or a bottle. Jokes and threats were mixed together. We no longer paid heed to what we said. We could toss around awful words without awful thoughts. The Tutsis did not even get very upset. Since then we have seen: those words brought on grave consequences."
Interview with Leopord, a Hutu imprisoned for killing Tutsis during the 1994 genocide, from “Machete Season,” by Jean Hatzfeld, excerpted in Harper's, April 2005, at 22.
oops--lost half the post. Anyway, the point is that Hondas are built like frigging tanks, and now they've got hybrids, too.
There will be another terrorist attack. The likes of Rich, and us, and thought, will be as so much trash in the bin.
"...secular university-town elites..."
Jealous, aren't we?
Hillary Clinton giving an address on CSPAN.
So is anyone going to watch Revelations?
Lahkes--hondas and Toyotas. Unless you crash them, they're pretty unkillable. (Is that a word? don't think so, but I like it.)
TJ, you are completely right and i knew he replaced someone else as i wrote that but i thought i could get over but here it is a tough town to catch a break in all the good lines have been takin... and if given the chance i would give the thumbs down on bobo if he were with the lions in the colosseum....and by all means bring on the battery acid enema....am i tough enough?
"So is anyone going to watch Revelations?"
As I told Eli, even I have standards.
watch revelations? i am just gonna drive down to mobile alambama where it is happening live....
signed up yet, hat?
Res:
Vatican City is not part of Italy. It is sovereign. And I don't think we're sending anyone in there to collect Cardinal Law, nor will they be returning him voluntarily.
That was my point. As long as he stays in Vatican City, he's safe. But its a damn small place. Couldn't he be extradited, from Italy, if he ever leaves it and goes into Rome proper?
For that matter, where exactly is that Cathedral they gave him - inside or outside the limits of Vatican City?
It hasn't grabbed everyones attention because they were just *trailer park people* I suppose but, the fairly recent story of the missing FLA girl who was found buried across the street from her home after being missing for some time is back in the news. I can't bring myself to read all the details, and frankly the headline is quite enough. She was buried alive after being molested. I threw up when I read that. Who the hell releases this stuff and why? It had been perhaps a month since she was found, and given a funeral. The perp was in custody. Surely there's a Blog of the Dead out there somewhere that can print that sort of 'news.'
Hey look, it's the Religious Right attending its own funeral!
Not to harp on this, but Bobo does not try to be a moderate. He tries to pretend to be a moderate, while quietly shoving a knife into the Dems every change he gets.
TJ ... Want to laugh? The DLC uses the exact same language as Bobo to bash its own party. See, e.g., the blog of that idiot BullMoose, who moans incessently about the "Deaniac secular elites" who are ruining the democratic party.
Snake King is a bad movie having no pretensions to anything else.
Nowhere near the transcendental autrocity the sci fi original joint Alien Apocalypse (starring Bruce Cambell and the big boobed blonde from Xena) was.
Frank Rich is so off the chain it's incredible. Without him and James Wolcott, the realm of hyper literary snarkiness would be sorely sucking.
"Bush hatred and stridency are the outward signs of righteousness."
Here I was thinking they were simply signs of common sense.
Anyone notice how quick Fox "News" went back to Terri Schaivo after the Pope died? I'm sure they didn't want to move away from it at all...
Two questions:
1) Does anybody here think there
won't be a major terrorist attack
before the next presidential election?
2) Does anybody else here think that
Jayne Heytmeir -- currently starring
in Snake King on the Sci-Fi channel --
is a major dish?
As far as I'm concerned, the questions
have moral equivalence.
Buckeye, dealer of rare coins
LOL!
singe, sorry to get so strident. bobo really ticks me off. I like the image of him being thrown to the lions though. 
So is anyone going to watch Revelations?
Even if I wanted to - which I don't - I don't think I could.
Anyone notice how quick Fox "News" went back to Terri Schaivo after the Pope died?
Samir...Are they still feasting on that girl's suffering? What can they possibly be covering now? Still on a witch hunt against the husband? Pathetic.
Steve S--
1. No.
2. No.
Now the snakes totally rock. As do the spiders.
Now the snakes totally rock. As do the spiders.
You should read some Fritz Leiber...
Oh, crap, don't even get me started on the Bull Moose. Or Drum. Or Beinart. Or any of the other moderates who say we need to move toward the center, abandon gays, abandon Roe v. Wade, and get tough on terrorism.
The whole paradigm has already shifted too far to the right. We've got to draw a line in the sand.
For more on the Culture of Death, visit TJ's blog at:
Welcome to Gilead
Hey look, it's the Religious Right attending its own funeral!
In order to keep my head from exploding daily - I have to believe this is literal truth. They've well and truly jumped the shark and their less than fanatic sympathizers are finally seeing them for what they are. Sanity will return one day.
Does anybody here think there won't be a major terrorist attack before the next presidential election?
steve simels ... Please don't say that. Please. We NYers gave at the office. It's enough. And just too scary to contemplate.
damn, i better get on snake king after all. i mean, i am drunk at 8:35.
Sallyh--you're the best pimp a girl could ever have.
TJ, before or after the battery acid enema??
Unless the conclave makes an inspired choice as pope (unlikely if people like Law are influential), they've lost liberal and moderate American Catholics.
One of my coworkers is one of the nicest, most generous people I know. When I met her, she was a member of my old parish. She has since quit going, at least regularly. The Detroit archdiocese's support for the Hate Amendment and Bush was, I think, the last straw.
If lapsed Catholics, believers and non, ever make common cause, Opus Dei might have more than they bargained for.
Hilary is live on CSPAN speaking before the HHH dinner. She is defending the filibuster talking about the radical rethug agenda. So far not a bad speech.
Res:
Did you see my question from your response at 9:44?
I really am curious about why Law is safe in Rome, not VC.
The planet Mars used to look like Earth before the religious fanatics got done with it.
for a large chest and revelations mimi in the rapture, no? each time i watch it i alternate between thinking it is a send up of something or a serious statement of nut ball beliefs....love her early in the movie on the date with the german vampire wanta bees...
Sorry I'm late... Love you guys... oh yeh.. Fuck Bush!
M, is that why those creatures from V came here?
TJ--but it's a great blog and deserves every bit of pimping and then some!
If lapsed Catholics, believers and non, ever make common cause...
Otherwise known as Democrats?
Law was only following tradition. Where I live the athorities have always allowed the church to "discipline" their own. Priests who get caught abusing children are sent to seminary for a few years. Parents go along with it because they don't want to "hurt the church." The people in the Boston archdiocese were the first to get fed up with it en masse. There was a catholic orphanage not far from where I live where nuns abused children unmercifully for more than 50 years. There is no sado-masochist like a sexually repressed catholic nun.
There will be another terrorist attack. The likes of Rich, and us, and thought, will be as so much trash in the bin.
Sharkbabe
second that. i'm not saying it's part of the plan, but it is when the shit will hit the fan.
the inevitability is debatable, what is not debatable is we are not doing our best utilizing our resources to prevent it.
instead we are pouring billions a month into iraq where the passions are increasingly being inflamed. i'm not saying America is dumb, but i'm not too impressed with the leaders.
So it is the work of the devil to point out that delay takes money for from the sex industry. Saipan, sex industry, children-money for the employees of delay (that would be his wife and daughter). We could say Tom Delay's Wife and Daughter involved in the sex industry of SAIPAN.
The devil made me say it.
So cool! More human devouring!
Steve S--does this not totally rock?
schiavo, the pope, charles and clamidya...so many dead folks marching across my brain...
Did you see my question from your response at 9:44? I really am curious about why Law is safe in Rome, not VC.
Flory ... Before he left, Law was going to get a subpoena to appear in front of a grand jury. He split before they could issue it. So it's not like there's a warrant out for him or that he's in contempt for ignoring the subpoena or anything. But if he went back to Boston he could get the subpoena. Then, if he ignored it, and went back to VC, I guess he couldn't go back to Boston without having a problem.
After, of course. The lions will finish him off.
There will be another terrorist attack. The likes of Rich, and us, and thought, will be as so much trash in the bin.
Sharkbabe
the inevitability is debatable, what is not debatable is we are not doing our best utilizing our resources to prevent it.
charley
Our ports are wide open. I know this for a fact. The government has basically expected private marine terminal operators to take care of their own security, by and large, and they are corporations driven by profit. The security of the American people is not their priority.
Hillary's giving a good speech live on CSPAN @ the moment. She's in front of the MN Dem-Farmers Party.
"So is anyone going to watch Revelations?"
When Where?
There is no sado-masochist like a sexually repressed catholic nun.
Jerry ... Every see "The Magdalene Sisters?" Yikes.
There is a chance to avoid another terrorist attack if we get out of Iraq and Saudi Arabia, get a peace settlement in Isreal that is fair to both sides, give up plans to invade Iran and join the EU in negotiations instead.
Cash is the only priority in determining America's afety- not the cash to fund it, ignorantly spent, but the profits of spendthrift multinationals that don't want to secure theur shit. Railway safety is especially troubling- thousands of gallons of combustible chemicals rolling the rails, unprotected- some cheap ass bomb could take one out, no prob.
Scary shit.
Tell 'em they can live anywhere in the good old U.S. of A., as long as it's in Texas.
Don't send those crazy fuckers here. We've got enough of our own home grown idiots.
sally, holy shit! there's more than one snake! and they just tore that dude in half.
That has got to be the worst CGI I have ever seen.
Alien Apolcolypse was terrible, but it did have lots of green gore at the end.
Singe:
The creatures from Venus came here because they poisoned their own planet with too much hairspray.
Prince Charles marries Camilla Parker-Bowles. Man marries horse. Somebody call Santorum, quick.
There is no sado-masochist like a sexually repressed catholic nun.
Jerry ... Every see "The Magdalene Sisters?" Yikes.
Truly the stuff of nightmares.
whoopie's back on broadway show about to start.
times today op ed piece on how wonderful and green nuclear power is...across the fold the lead editorial piece was about how nothing is being done to secure spent fuel rods etc. funny how our leaders don't acknowledge the improbablity of securing poisons we create that last tens of thousands of years...someone will figure it out...yeah sure...
Music anyone? When you get to the site, it takes a second to start up.
http://www.ericclapton.com/
Don't you guys just love that Sci-Fi channel commercial where the guy with all the tatoos goes shopping and prepares a feast and all his tatoos come to life?
4Legs--did you notice in an earlier scene, sound and vision weren't synched/
Now that's quality!
dollar wells
Lately San Antonio has been having its woes with rail safety. It doesn't take a terrorist.
Sally, is that one snake or a snake with 3 heads?
4Legs--they do have some pretty funny station identifiers.
4Legs--you mean it matters?
There is a chance to avoid another terrorist attack if we get out of Iraq and Saudi Arabia, get a peace settlement in Isreal that is fair to both sides, give up plans to invade Iran and join the EU in negotiations instead.
Hahahahahahahahaaaa......wait. that's not funny. but it will never happen while President "Bring 'em on" calls the shots.
put your money where your mouth is!
times today op ed piece on how wonderful and green nuclear power is
Did someone give Montgomery Burns keys to the op/ed page?
Cory--I plan to keep my 98 Corolla until it disintegrates. I think Civics hold on for the long haul, too.
My 1989 Civic has 225,000 miles on it. Had to replace the engine at 210,000, and the body's beginning to rust, but I think I can get another year out of it. Not bad, in Massachusetts.
Next door neighbour got 350K out of her Corolla. It was blowing blue smoke at the when she traded it for a Camry. I have an '89 Accord with 250K (and a knock when I first start it).
That Stefhen Baldwin is quite an excellent Actor.
"There is a chance to avoid another terrorist attack if we get out of Iraq and Saudi Arabia, get a peace settlement in Isreal that is fair to both sides, give up plans to invade Iran and join the EU in negotiations instead."
Jerry
In other words, we're effing doomed.
I've got it!
We should all go along and insist
on the inerrancy of the Bible.
Theocracy city!
But it's got to be in the original
language!!!!!!
The inter-sectarian fights on that
will paralyze the Fundies for as
far as the eye can see!!!!!!
Steve S--brilliant idea! But didn't Jesus speak Middle English?
Hillary Clinton giving an address on CSPAN.
Res Ipsa Loquitor
Just missed it.
Did she say anything, you know, meaningful?
I don't know much about Opus Dei, to tell you the truth, other than they are very hard-ass conservative.
Robert Hansen, the FBI spy, was a member. I am not sure, but I think Robert Novak might also be a member.
Is Stephen Baldwin the fundie Rethug one? I understand Alec is ashamed of that sibling.
I suspect that if you showed the 700 Club to the Coptic-Catholic Patriarch of Alexandria, H.B. Stephanos II Ghattas -- aka the beardy guy with the fantastic hat who said the Eastern prayers over the Pope's coffin -- he wouldn't recognise it as the same belief system as his own. And he'd be right.
pseudonymous in nc - 9:20 pm
verry astute reading, friend...good show...missing only the reminder that 'desert' religion are by nature, environment, and temperament, Manicchean, absolutist, and brutally intolerant...
jews didn't learn tolerance til after the diaspora, zum beispiel...
Think so mary. Re Baldwin, the Bill Maher show with Baldwin and Whoopie someone here recommended was really good. One of the most enjoyable hours of television in ages.
Is Stephen Baldwin the fundie Rethug one? I understand Alec is ashamed of that sibling.
I think it's Gummo, Gummo Baldwin.
don't know much about Opus Dei, to tell you the truth, other than they are very hard-ass conservative.
Robert Hansen, the FBI spy, was a member. I am not sure, but I think Robert Novak might also be a member.
____league -- 10:16 pm
Skullia is a charter member...
Is Stephen Baldwin the fundie Rethug one?
No, I think he's the youngest Baldwin, in fact I think that he has never seen a bad script. The bigger the stinker the more exuberant the "actitude". I think he may be attempting to be the first actor nominated for an oscar in a straight to video movie.
You might be thinking of Billy, but I can't keep them all straight.
No mas.
No more of this wretched Jesus shit.
No foolin, no more.
Stop it in its tracks, because it is sick beyond healing.
Twisted beyond straightening, broken beyond repair.
Those who subscribe to it are diseased, as though w/leprosy. They deserve our sympathy, but they are fucked, truly.
Don't eat it, Mabel, it ain't good for you.
SD
Otherwise known as Democrats?
Flory- yeah, but we have to get the DLC Vichy Dem collaborationists out of our midst if we're ever going to have any success.
Prince Charles marries Camilla Parker-Bowles. Man marries horse.
No, that's basset hound marries horse. Still better call Santorum.
Re Baldwin, the Bill Maher show with Baldwin and Whoopie someone here recommended was really good.
chris/tx ... Was that Alec or the fundie Billy?
BTW ... See my posts above about giving the fundies Texas.
sarah D--call them what they are, traitors and heretics. They are not people of faith.
So is anyone going to watch Revelations?"
not unless the've got full, frontal halo-fucking, and then only those scenes...
4Legs--you mean it matters?
No, it doesn't.
OT, but I just went to the grocery store. Is there anything more forlorn than a basket of unwanted Peeps after easter?
I think Stephen is the con!
Stephen is the one I have seen going on about his "faith". He was the one at the GOP convention that did a cutsey maybe I am maybe I am not routine in an interview. It was pretty stupid.
Anyone grab this little cutie from DeLay, via video from Rome to the Constitutional Restoration group of heretics and traitors:
"DeLay, who canceled to attend the pope's funeral, but who appeared via video to tell the crowd, "The judiciary branch of our government has overstepped its authority on countless occasions, overturning and in some cases just ignoring the legitimate will of the people...But I also believe the executive and legislative branches have neglected the proper checks and balances on this behavior. ... Our next step, whatever it is, must be more than rhetoric."
"Is there anything more forlorn than a basket of unwanted Peeps after easter?"
I'm assuming you gave them a good home, neh?
So is anyone going to watch Revelations?"
What channel/time ?
I'm looking forward to all this full frontal halo fucking
.
Sorry I'm late... Love you guys... oh yeh.. Fuck Bush!
OT, but I just went to the grocery store. Is there anything more forlorn than a basket of unwanted Peeps after easter?
You don't mean you left them there?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Our next step, whatever it is, must be more than rhetoric."
I hate that fucking asshat.
Just saying.
Mary - It's Stephen. The others are Alec, William, and Daniel.
RIP - It was Alec, and I enjoyed it even though Whoopie normally gets on my nerves. And yes (re TX to the fundies). Don't matter, we are carving off the southern half with Houston, San Antonio, and Austin and seceding to Mexico.
SallyH is he taking on two branches of the government including his own Commander in Chief?
Ever wonder what Hitchens must think about his new-found fundie pals? I swear I don't think there's enough alcohol in the world to take that pain away from him.
You can't say enough bad things about Hitchens to make me say "enough," but nobody can slap down a religious zealot with quite the same alcoholic venom, contempt, and enthusiasm as our ex-comrade in arms.
If you're reading this, Chris, take that as a challenge.
was camilla wearing a crown of thorns?
kent, no they gave them to kristof...
Thanks for that link Des. There is noonelike Eric
EkCenTrik--I'm not sure, but he's intent on destroying the planet for his heresy.
OT, but I just went to the grocery store. Is there anything more forlorn than a basket of unwanted Peeps after easter?
fourlegsgood - FourLegs BAD! Take them home! FREEZE THEM!
and leave poor fucking Charles and Camilla alone. Shit.
Who cares?
If the Brits are okay w/spening that incredible amount of $$ on their "modest" ceremony, let them be, or let the Brits chew on them.
I mean, shit, we've got enough to worry about in our own country w/out getting involved in anyone else's business, eh?
Don't matter, we are carving off the southern half with Houston, San Antonio, and Austin and seceding to Mexico.
chris/tx -10:31 pm
Leave off Beaumont, Vidor, Orange and the bulk of the Sabine River, and include Padre Island, and I'd almost be tempted to join you...
almost...
just sayin...
.
Actually, Revelations got a good write up in TV Guide.
It was compared to The X-Files (not the awful last few seasons, GOOD X-Files!)
Plus, after the article, they had some responses from diverse Invisible Sky Buddy Fan Club types.
Figures that the fundies didn't care for it.
I plan to watch it. I think it'll be fairly entertaining.
Who'd a' thunk it, straight to video actor and a fundy.
did the scientologists not offer up enough scratch?
Sorry for the incorrect Baldwin info NYMary.
.
Don't matter, we are carving off the southern half with Houston, San Antonio, and Austin and seceding to Mexico.
chris/tx ... I thought Houston was hell, i.e., Enron-land? Am I mistaken.
Revolution is afoot in Mexico, although Fredo and Pals will smack that down before anyone there gets too out of line. Can't have democratically elected "leftists," as the NYT likes to call them, just south of the border now, can we?
There are those damn Peeps again. Peeps are evil, they look cute, seem oblivious to anything and will willingly suffer experiements in the microwave. They are real world Schmoos.
have made my red white and blue "thanks for voting republican" stickers. will be posting them wherever i buy gas
Good for you! Today I wrote "have you filled'er up lately, sucker?" on a Post-It and stuck it on the side of a big assed SUV with a W bumper sticker. Heh heh.
Don't matter, we are carving off the southern half with Houston, San Antonio, and Austin and seceding to Mexico.
Well, thank the lords and the low creatures! At least we get to keep the good food.
You all had me worried for a minute, there....
Our next step, whatever it is, must be more than rhetoric."
SallyH is he taking on two branches of the government including his own Commander in Chief?
Delay thinks he should be permanent CiC. All he has to do is get rid of GW, Cheney and that pesky Rove and then do something to get rid of those bothersome elections.
by rights, GWB et al should be on death row.
Won't happen, but it most certainly should.
We'll "move on", right? (not left)
That op-ed was just great. I have forwarded it to my email list... all hail "mailinator"!
Chris I am kinda of confused too. San Antonio is closer to a liberal view as well as Austin. I thought you would kick Dallas out for sure.
You need to describe this better. I really don't want to wake up one day and find out I am in the wrong side of the divide.
"Our next step, whatever it is, must be more than rhetoric."
c'mon Tom. You and me. Baseball bats in a darkened room, only one leaves...
They are real world Schmoos.
EkCenTriK
Shmoos are no more "evil" than the humans they please, remember...?
Actually I would truly respect and appreciate any clarification of "Next Steps" by Mr. DeLay.
Woody, baseball bats? Aren't you an expert shot?
"Shmoos are no more "evil" than the humans they please, remember...?
Sarah Deere"
I think I will stop discussing this now.
fourlegsgood - FourLegs BAD! Take them home!
GWPDA I just about pissed my pants and certainly scarred the cats.
and sallyh, RMJ, primed the pump nicely.
and singe,
what of this crown of thorns you speak?
.
By the way, have I called DeLay a traitor in the 30 or 40 minutes. If not, well TRAITOR!!!
have you read about why the government may fall in canada, its hilarious...the stuff they are upset about would be a huge ethical advance in the white house...
I'm watching this weeks Real Time and just found out what an asshole this Joe Watkins is.
Woody, baseball bats? Aren't you an expert shot?
Sallyh -10:40 pm
I'm a decent shot.
but i'd like the personal touch which approach provides...hear him crunch like a bug...
...something like that...ya know?
kent, didja see her hat?
Today I wrote "have you filled'er up lately, sucker?" on a Post-It and stuck it on the side of a big assed SUV with a W bumper sticker. Heh heh.
Sweet Sue ... That is so cool! I'm going to do that tomorrow!
WGG, baseball bats in the dark, and you w/night vision....yes...sweet...
EkCenTriK - Dallas is definitely gone as it's well North of Houston.
RIP - Houston is a strange bird, probably should be an open city like they envision Jerusalem. It's mainly the burbs that are red leaning, inner city is slightly dem, and only because IMO that GHWB has had such an influence keeping it from being more heavily dem.
WGG - Of course Vidor, Beaumont, and Orange will not be coming. And we get padre island. I'm thinking of more and east-west line than swing up a little to pick up Austin and swing south at Houston to leave off the afore mentioned.
"Shmoos are no more "evil" than the humans they please, remember...?
Sarah Deere"
I think I will stop discussing this now.
EkCenTriK
...better part of valor.....
SD
what kind of board scores do you need to get into the college of cardnials? does it help if you are well rounded?
cardinals, guess i'm getting wait listed at best...
Today I wrote "have you filled'er up lately, sucker?" on a Post-It and stuck it on the side of a big assed SUV with a W bumper sticker. Heh heh.
Sue, after that guy who cancelled his late afternoon appt today- you are my new best hero!
kent, didja see her hat?,
Sorry friend, no I didn't. I am amazingly good at sliding right on past anything shiavo, pope on the ropes, or royal weddings, not to mention regular news and punditards.
I take it that it was a funny hat, no?
.
RIP - Houston is a strange bird, probably should be an open city like they envision Jerusalem. It's mainly the burbs that are red leaning, inner city is slightly dem, and only because IMO that GHWB has had such an influence keeping it from being more heavily dem.
Houston is kinda like a semi-Baptist New Orleans...
Port cities cannot avoid the contamination of the flotsam and jetsam the the oceans deliver... they defy classification, but because of the intensity of the differences you encounter, they tend to be a bit more tolerant of otherness--especvially if theres a dollar or a deal involved...
i like port cities, and university towns, and Houston (as well as Seattle, Chicago, NYC, LA, SFO) are both...and the humidity is good gfor the complexion...
just sayin...
.
Actually San Antonio is Dem from the old er parts of the north side all the way to the south. The newer suburbs went red. I am just a hair on the wrong side of the demarc.
been staring at the schiavo-pope-charles movie all week at the cardio fitness as they are stong cnn believers and it is no fun watching the time or calorie thing go by so slowly...the hat was all these spikey prong things, maybe a feather from a roc bird or something but it looked like if you hit it with a whip handle like the nuns used to tell us those guys did to christs crown of thorns it would go right thru her forehead....
chris/tx
In regard to a question you posted a LONG time ago
"Mass" is just the word (from the dismissal of the service) that became the common name for the service deriving from the Last Supper, the Holy Communion or the Lord's Supper, now frequently referred to by the name "the Holy Eucharist" (an eastern name that avoided the baggage of the western arguments)
Some Anglo-Catholic parishes will have daily mass (viz., St. Mary the Virgin in NYC) -- we certainly do in the monastery
Mass is NOT part of the Divine (aka "Daily") Office -- all professed monks are bound to the recitation of the office but not all monks are priests -- BTW RC canon law specifies that a priest should preside at the celebration of the Eucharist "from time to time"
Generally speaking parishes (as opposed to monasteries) in the Eastern Churches do NOT offer daily mass because the parish clergy are married & priests are not allowed to celebrate the "Liturgy" (i.e., "mass' etc.) if they have had intercourse with their wives the night before (see Levitical purity codes)
Houston has three saving graces: port, college (though both have little impact on the burbs), and oil.
Yes, oil. The thing that makes it most GOP also makes it the most international city in Texas. Some of the 'burbs (the most interesting ones) are rife with foreign nationals: Brits, Scots, French, Spanish, Danish, German, what have you. Great pleasure to work in a small bookstore (as I do, from time to time) that reminds so many non-Americans of "home" (think the bookstore in "You've Got Mail." Go on, everybody else does.). We get lots of accents in the store, and it leavens the otherwise oppressive atmosphere of nearby East Texas (something about piney woods, I think).
Still, I'd rather be in the Hill Country. But that's another ramble....
Frank Rich is so good! Now I'm seriously scared.
Generally speaking parishes (as opposed to monasteries) in the Eastern Churches do NOT offer daily mass because the parish clergy are married & priests are not allowed to celebrate the "Liturgy" (i.e., "mass' etc.) if they have had intercourse with their wives the night before (see Levitical purity codes)
Why do I suddenly imagine a community with intimate knowledge of the state of the priest's married life?
Hmmmmm.....
Just in, more snake food. That is if anyone is still watching "The Snake King"
.
Prior! So lovely to see you! How are you? Looking much forward to seeing you in a couple weeks
Kent, I was so bummed. I wanted the snake to eat the chick.
For that matter, where exactly is that Cathedral they gave him - inside or outside the limits of Vatican City?
Outside, though S. Maria Maggiore is an 'extraterritorial' basilica. Vatican City is really bloody small. This isn't about geographical sovereignty, but about how the Italian govt. isn't going to fuck with the Vatican higher-ups, should someone wish to extradite Law.
Though I'd like to see someone give it a shot while the crooked bastard is en route from his garret on Monday.
I take it that it was a funny hat, no?
.
kent, Excessive Wandere
she's gpt the Queen beat on hata, fer shure.
But, it's STILL not our bidness.
Padre Sez: Mass is NOT part of the Divine (aka "Daily") Office --
and administer the gentlest of reproofs...
i was baptized, but it didn't take. SOTF 101, (Sins Of The Flesh), Grade 6 or so, saw to that...but i do recall a lot of the jargon, cuz my mother was a serious priest-moll...
Had an older somewhat distant cousin who took orders, and then after 20 years, fell into the snare of a sensual woman, for whom he renounced his vocation, but who--as often happens--moved on again later...The closest to a truly tragic person i've ever known...
rip, fr.owen
"got" and "hats".
damn fingers. Of course, they're all I've got, so better not damn tham too much.
Pseudonymous--that was a basilica I missed in Rome. Have you seen it?
I also missed San Giovanni Laterano--definitely a must for next time.
Eat them! EAT THEM ALL!!!
WGG - Exactly right about port cities and tolerance. Spent a couple decades in drilling which of course involves all port cities. What is often missed about Houston is how int'l the city is, going back to being the oil hub of the world since the early 60's. Combine that with the influx of immigrants from Mexico, India, China, Vietnam, etc. It is mainly the burbs that gives Houston the bad name, and of course being associated with the Bush name for the last forty years or so.
Kent, I was so bummed. I wanted the snake to eat the chick.
yeah but they couldn't do that so they brought in the tragicomically delicious bad guys in for feedbag duty.
SD,
got it, fashion is often testimony that wealth is wasted on the wealthy.
Now snakey has his "just dessert's"
OUCH
I disapprove of movies that put snakes in bad light...
WGG. There have been other Catholics named Thomas who have had tragic lives.
Honestly, it seems inevitable for them.
What a dreadful "faith".
Ever wonder what Hitchens must think about his new-found fundie pals?
Ever read Orwell's Homage to Catalonia, when he talks about arriving in Spain, and only then realising that it wasn't 'socialists' against 'fascists', but a complex mess of competing groups, where the Stalinists ultimately hated the POUM and the anarchists more than they did Franco?
At Monte Pocero, when they pointed to the position on our left and said: ‘Those are the Socialists’ (meaning the P.S.U.C.), I was puzzled and said: ‘Aren't we all Socialists?’ I thought it idiotic that people fighting for their lives should have separate parties; my attitude always was, ‘Why can't we drop all this political nonsense and get on with the war?’ This of course was the correct 'anti-Fascist’ attitude which had been carefully disseminated by the English newspapers, largely in order to prevent people from grasping the real nature of the struggle. But in Spain, especially in Catalonia, it was an attitude that no one could or did keep up indefinitely. Everyone, however unwillingly, took sides sooner or later.
I'm guessing that Hitchens has read it. But he's obviously fucking well forgotten it. And with the fundies now using Stalinist slogans, he ought to re-read it.
Has anyone been to Montreal? Do I need a car there -- or is it a walking-around city?
Come to think of it, I'm going to have a conference on Constitution and Snakes and I'm going to give speeches with eyeglasses strapped to my head with some rubber bands. I'm going to prove that the Founding Fathers were really King Cobras and that tapping on the head is the only legal way to show dominance.
If you don't agree with me you are going to be made into peach jelly or impeached, whichever you fear more.
Tell 'em they can live anywhere in the good old U.S. of A., as long as it's in Texas.
Res Ipsa Loquitor
Res, I thought they wanted one of the Carolinas. South C???
Echidne--are you kidding? The snakes were the GOOD part of the movie!
The cast, on the other hand, didn't have to do anything to look bad except be there.
I disapprove of movies that put snakes in bad light...
But Echidne, the snake in this crapfest is actually a good guy, unless you happen to be a greedy american capitalist. The snake king is our types of snake for sure.
Res, I thought they wanted one of the Carolinas. South C???
Fine. Give it to 'em. We'll keep Texas. But I don't want any more Bushes. Send those fucks to South Carolina.
sallyh and kent, sorry, sorry. I am not watching the movie so I assumed that it would be like most of them. My humbles apologies.
Sarah D--Catholicism can be barbaric and debauched, but it can also be transcendant.
Re: gasoline prices.
Hasn't Europe been paying much higher prices for quite a while? Why are we whining???
Thanks Prior - Now I have to tell my wife I was wrong...
Hey, Satan's School for Girls is on! Produced by Aaron Spelling! Quality writ large!
If you don't agree with me you are going to be made into peach jelly or impeached, whichever you fear more.
mmmmmmm peach jelly mmmmmmmmm /drooling Homer.
impeached.........
is that like being turned into a peach like when the frink character in lisa's petri dish world ponders the idea of "re-imbigulation" when lisa asks to be returned to her former size?
Imagine Kennedy being im-peach-ed and then perhaps sold in a supermarket near you!
Sarah D--Catholicism can be barbaric and debauched, but it can also be transcendant.
Sallyh
Please explain. Email welcome, if you prefer.
Warning: I am not only not religious, I find it pretty much ridiculous.
I am interested, though, in the bloody side of Catholicism. Garcia-Lorca, Day of the Dead, many of the Saints. But only, really, as intersting phenonomena.
Today I wrote "have you filled'er up lately, sucker?" on a Post-It and stuck it on the side of a big assed SUV with a W bumper sticker. Heh heh.
A new fad!!! And much better than pie-ing pundits.
psuedo:
Outside, though S. Maria Maggiore is an 'extraterritorial' basilica. Vatican City is really bloody small. This isn't about geographical sovereignty, but about how the Italian govt. isn't going to fuck with the Vatican higher-ups, should someone wish to extradite Law.
This is the part I don't get. If we have an extradition treaty with Italy and a legitimate warrent - would they have any choice? And why have the MA authorities dropped it? And why have the parents let them?
Sallyh --
Just back from a fancy restaurant (courtesy of Fr William's parents on his mother's birthday) -- I expect I will br VERY tired tomorrow morning!
RIL -- I've not been to Montreal, but Fr Wm has -- I believe that you will "need" a car, but there is no place to park it 
RMJ --
Actually masses are planned ahead (no pun intended) -- as is sex -- priests plan not to have intercourse on Tuesday or Saturday nights -- not sure what they do in emergencies (heh)
Am I the only person who feels that Ion Chef America lacks the OOMPH of the original?
If you don't agree with me you are going to be made into peach jelly or impeached, whichever you fear more.
Echidne of the snakes
Echidne:
Hey, Satan's School for Girls is on! Produced by Aaron Spelling! Quality writ large!
I seem to remember something about "standards" with an "even I have them" caveat being bandied about somewhere by someone" hmmmmmmmm.....
chris/tx
I am sure that telling your wife you were wrong is good for the soul (note that I never have to do it myself -- always go to celibate males for expert advice on marriage & sex)
ion=iron
I disapprove of movies that put snakes in bad light...
Echidne of the snakes -- 11:08 pm
The wise might take this hint seriously...
i was once ophidiophobic...but strangely, studying language and semiotics, i came to understand the serpent in many new ways i had never before imagined...an accidental investigation into the etymology of the Chinese radical 'chowng' led to some interesting speculation and eventually to a conversion...
serpents rule!
s'true...
.
Prior A ... Am doing a bit more research. Looks like there's a subway. I'm an NYC girl, so I'll feel right at home. Thanks.
Am I the only person who feels that Ion Chef America lacks the OOMPH of the original?
Nope, and I've not even seen it, I just know what we have a tendancy to do with re-treads.
Good for you, Woody! May the snakes guard your path.
Has anyone been to Montreal? Do I need a car there -- or is it a walking-around city?
Res Ipsa Loquitor -11:09 pm
imho, for Cite Montreal, no car is required. they have great underground and surfface pub trans...plus ther is an utterly fascinating maze of inter-connecting tunnels under the city...a whole city under the city...way cool...when they ahd a bazseball team, you caould take the metro right to the entry stile of the park,...
shit...
Prior A,
I am sure you have been asked every quesrion in the book and had excellent thoughtful responses for each one. Please, if I may, let me ask you the basic question: why have you chosen to remain celibate, and, well, why.
Thanks, SD
Prior - It's just the little happy dance she does after I admit I was wrong...
The question came up because my best friends dad was an big Episcopalian priest in Houston for decades. She was asking how hard it is to be a priest. I told her they had to say a mass every day (me being raised Catholic and having attended parochial schools for a couple years where we went to mass six days a week). I (falsely) assumed other Church's did the same.
PS - Clean sheets.
RIL --
I love good subways -- the London underground is so much fun -- a perfect map which has nothing whatever to do with what is on the surface of the earth!
Generally speaking, Canada has great public transportation -- alos a national health service (if you plan to be sick, wait until you get to the Great White North -- a "socialist hell")
Woody G ... What neighborhood do I want to stay in? Want to be central ... near stuff I can walk to. Safe.
Do you live there?
I disapprove of movies that put snakes in bad light...
Echidne of the snakes -- 11:08 pm
I fdully agree, as does my husband, who loves snakes. Nor do I fear, though I respect, them. They are marvelous creatures.
Woody G ... What is "IMHO?"
Hasn't Europe been paying much higher prices for quite a while? Why are we whining???
Sarah Deere -11:14 pm
cuz we have farther to go to get there--anywhere...and a lot fewer wayschoices of ways of getting there...and a lot less efficient vehicles...oh, a whole lot of reasons, really, i guess...
RIL:
IMHO = InMyHumbleOpinion
dating myself again...gotta get out more...anybody got any cousins or sisters in Albuquerque?
Hasn't Europe been paying much higher prices for quite a while? Why are we whining???
Sarah Deere -11:14 pm
cuz we have farther to go to get there--anywhere...and a lot fewer wayschoices of ways of getting there...and a lot less efficient vehicles...oh, a whole lot of reasons, really, i guess...
WoodyGsGuitar/Happy Desperado
WGG, well, I hate to say it, but it;s out own damn fault. And...how long did we really believe we'd be able to avoid the reality that the rest of the gas-guzzling planet faces??? Eh?
Prior A ... Where are you? Are you really in a monastery? Or *were* you in one?
Atrios, use the NYT registration free link generator they created for blogs
http://nytimes.blogspace.com/genlink
anybody got any cousins or sisters in Albuquerque?
What do you need in Albuquerque?
RIL:
Sorry, i never lived there...i visited a couple of times...I have no remotely reliable information on the safe or unsafe quartiers...the cathedral there is sublime, the universities are old and noble-looking...Montreal is a regal city, could easily be 'capitol' of eastern North America...
imho
Albuquerque.....or Santa Fe?
Sarah --
There is no one answer to any question -- I met a woman who might have been a good life partner but i was already a long time in the monastery & she was in a marriage (albeit a bad one that ended unhappily -- not my fault, though)
Some people are meant to walk alone -- I love all women so much that i could never be faithful to one, so I am better off with none -- I am the sort of person who can deal with the not so intimate life in community who would be seriously stressed by having one significant other -- I do not think I would perform well the duties of a ful time parent -- OTOH, I am a pretty damn good monk -- it is about no bullshit in how you live your life (in this sense very much like Buddhist "mindfullness" -- Buddhism being essentiually monasticism with a religion attached) -- that takes a lot of commitment & focus
Also, just following the Gospel of Jesus Christ (not being satisfied with the name brand but trying to live it -- walk the walk a la Gandhi & King) is a full time job for me -- takes lots of prayer & reflection
Original motivation -- Nixon putting me in the Gulf of Tonkin & God graciously giving me a nervous breakdown & giving me the opportunity to rethink my priorities
If oyu want more, drop me a line
And...how long did we really believe we'd be able to avoid the reality that the rest of the gas-guzzling planet faces???
Ummm....forever? American exceptionalism, y'know. The laws of nature don't apply to us either.
What do you need in Albuquerque?
chris/tx -- 11:36 pm
pretty much what any single fella might need: a pretty, funny, sexy, wanton woman? one'd do...the aesthetics of mountain optics are only so satisfying...
Sarah --
sorry about "oyu" -- "you", of course
RIL --
I am the Prior (2nd in command) at St. Gregory's Abbey in Three Rivers Michigan (click homepage) -- I am the mad looking one with the bushy white beard
Woody G ...
Thanks. I am finishing school (for good) on May 5th and need to get away for a few days before bar review class begins. Don't want to go too far, just need a change of scenery. Figured Montreal would fit the bill. Just want to walk around and see some new things and faces. Plus, can practice my French.
IN th emidst of all the anti-religion that I read and feel growing everyday, I went to an 'Interfaith Community Action Leadership Training Program' today as a representative of my church congregation (the real liberal one that doesn't believe in Hell, or even God if that suits you). I was very apprehensive about spending a day with a 'faith based social action' organization. There was one young catholic priest there who was obviously of the Zombie style religious philosophy ('we are here to serve God and follow HIS word to become more like HIM', etc yada yada) but everyone else there was more of the compassionist-activist philosophy than Bible thumper. In fact, I came away realizing that a lot of former secular commumity activist types have read the writing on the walls and realized they can get the type and number of committed people they need to make positive social change (of the old 'fight the power structure for the downtrodden' model) by joining religious groups than by fighting or mocking them. So they say all the right words and join in prayer to use the potential power available within church congregations. About half of what all religions teach is actually good (feed and house the poor, respect everyone's unique nature) and if you can properly meld your own issue driven agenda (fair housing, affordable healthcare, good education, child care, worker's rights) to those universal "religious" principles that support those causes (quote the right bible, Talmud, Koran etc. verses), you can gain true power in our society and most these church folks do support it. It's our feeling of powerlessness these days that is driving most normal Americans crazy these days, not living in a pluralistic society.
Believe me, the people in this training session were very active in their churches (Catholics, Protestants, Jews) but they are about as far away in their view of social justice from these vile right wing phony religious fascists as anyone here is.
So halleljah, I have seen the light and am gonna get some power to do good by working with these people, even if deep inside I don't buy the theological mumbo jumbo in any way, shape or form. If a tool is useful, use it.
Prior Aelred
Is that the location of the monks who do the printer refills I have seen advertised? Or am I thinking of someone else?
RILoc: Figured Montreal would fit the bill. Just want to walk around and see some new things and faces. Plus, can practice my French.
Montreal ought to be beautiful about this time...Next time, try Quebec...I love 'em both, for way different reasons...Bon Sortie!
WGG - huh, huh, me a little slow...somehow got the impression you were currently married.
*somebody need to tell Cameron Diaz to pull her pants up on SNL.
RIL is going to Montreal to practice her French !
BWAHAHAHAHA!
"le hole in le road!"
Quebequois is not French (in France, stop signs say "stop" instead of "arrette") but you sure can't get by with English!
AV --
Garrison Keilor was converted to the Episcopal Church by our soup kitchens (but like most Episcopalians he doesn't beat people up with his religion)
*somebody need to tell Cameron Diaz to pull her pants up on SNL.
don't look at me
Prior A ... The internets in a monastery? Who knew? I guess have have an outdated notion of such places. Then again, I have a cousin in seminary now and we are not allowed to see him for another year (although he is allowed to write).
Prior A:
Learn something new every day. I always assumed St. Gregory's was RC. (Not too self-referential, am I?) I just read your homepage and found out you're Episcopalian.
Klyde,
When they start featuring salamanders or stinging nettles as the challenge food then Iron Chef American will start to get as interesting as the Japanese one. I don't think "mushrooms" or "potatos" are exotic enough to keep me from pressing the clicker.
mmmmm salamander sorbet....
EkCenTriK --
The printer refils are from "common observance" Cistercian monks in Wisconsin -- RCs rather than Episcopalians but a small community -- their "contemplative" lifestyle would be very similar to ours (as opposed to big monasteries with schools or seminiaries)
chris/tx: WGG - huh, huh, me a little slow...somehow got the impression you were currently married
The confusion may arise from my not infrequent reference to "the last (in all respects) Mrs/Dr WGG"...which, now that i look at it is somewhat misleading. It should read "The last (in all respects) ex-Mrs/Dr WGG."
and thanks to Spinoza for catching the egregious extraneous a in my sig today, too...
just sayin...
.
Y'know, if God created sex...why then are these rules about impurity for married people? Sounds really weird to me. I guess it's just one of those religious contradictions that contributed to my abandonment of Christendom...
Iron Chef America is better than I thought it was going to be, but nowhere near as entertaining and interesting as the original.
The original Iron Chef is the best show on TV, in my opinion.
BTW (also OT), my wife and I just got back from Taiwan (her homeland). If you get a chance, go there. The food, the people, the democracy, the street-level capitalism, are amazing. (It helps to have a Chinese-speaking companion, of course.) And they are one of the only countries left who loves Americans. Although, sadly, I fear that the Chimp is likely to fail them if the chips are ever down. It must never come to that...
Episcopalians & proud of it
back to SD's question -- I could always use Fr Wm's joke answer, "My wife killed herself on our wedding night and I don't want to talk about it."
(I don't believe he's ever been cruel enough actuallly to pull that on a guest)
Another one of his joke answers (you figure out the question yourself) is, "I don't know -- we're not allowed to look."
WGG - You are correct sir, the "last Mrs/Dr WGG" confused me that their was a "current".
on the 'higher' price of gas in usa
being comparatively loser than that at Europe, one must figure in the amount of the tax dollar that goes toward the war industry,, which completely over shadows all the other countries combined,,, think of your irs taxex as part of you gas price then it will more approximate europe. Then again, China and India are gearing up while we in the usa are gearing down,,
RIL is going to Montreal to practice her French !
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Are you laughing at me, Prior A? I thought you guys were supposed to be all ...holy and stuff, i.e., no making fun of the civilians?
SMART MONEY mag used to have this column called "10 Things ___ Won't Tell You," e.g., insurance broker, lawyer, doctor, etc. I often wanted to see "Priest" or "Minister" or "Rabbi" to hear the way you guys talk about the congregation.
focus - One of my wife's friends could be Cameron Diaz's double. Sad part is she is a fundie. And yes, I am crying in my G&T.
RIL:
Are you laughing at me, Prior A? I thought you guys were supposed to be all ...holy and stuff, i.e., no making fun of the civilians?
I once worked in a lab with a nun. You could have knocked me over with a feather when I found out. Never heard a filthier mouth in my life.
Bobo does not try to be a moderate. He tries to pretend to be a moderate,
Brooks has also spent years pretending that conservatives are moderate, pragmatic, reasonable types as opposed to the wild-eyed airheads on the Left. That's why he's been going into contortions recently over the Schiavo case and the Right-wing judge-bashing. The wild-eyed airheads are on your side, Bobo, not the other side...
Laughing with , not at (snark)
Fortunately, I have no congregation -- I fear exasperation would allow certain things to slip out -- sometimes clergy say unkind things
It is just that what they speak in Quebec would never be recognised in France as French
As to the internet -- most monasteries have webpages -- some are very sophiticated indeed -- some monasteries do computer work as a major source of income
The Benedictine webpage done by St. John's Abbbey in Collegeville, MN has information about Benedictine monasteries all over the owrld (& links to all that have webpages) & lots of other stuff as well -- multi-lingual, etc.
Some monks are really smart (& I don't claim to be one of them -- I am so humble, you see)
So, Prior,
Holy week is over. You must have some time for . . . .
Pulled from Billmon's blog:
Somebody better wake up the FBI. It looks like these people mean business:
Greetings to the Imprisoned Citizens of the United States. We are Unitarian Jihad. There is only God, unless there is more than one God. The vote of our God subcommittee is 10-8 in favor of one God, with two abstentions. Brother Flaming Sword of Moderation noted the possibility of there being no God at all, and his objection was noted with love by the secretary.
Greetings to the Imprisoned Citizens of the United States! Too long has your attention been waylaid by the bright baubles of extremist thought. Too long have fundamentalist yahoos of all religions (except Buddhism -- 14-5 vote, no abstentions, fundamentalism subcommittee) made your head hurt. Too long have you been buffeted by angry people who think that God talks to them. You have a right to your moderation! You have the power to be calm! We will use the IED of truth to explode the SUV of dogmatic expression!
(Sighs) I've been wondering how long it would be before some of the younger hotheads in the church started issuing non-threatening communiques. As I've said before, extremist movements tend to become progressively more radicalized over time. And the Unitarians obviously are no exception.
For the record, I should note that church members generally refer to themselves as Unitarian Universalists, although some of the more wacked-out splinter sects prefer the term Universalist Unitarian. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)
Clearly, Unitarian Jihad has undergone some kind of savage internal purge. (By majority vote, no doubt, with minority views fully noted for the record.) That would also explain the wild rhetoric about "calm" and "moderation," and the ominous hints of future symbolic protest actions. What we have here is a ticking time bomb of thoughtful dissent, which could explode at any time.
I know, because I myself am a "rainbow diaper" baby, raised in a family of softcore Unitarian Universalists. I can see now that my parents were actually agents of a foreign power (reality) who should have been executed as traitors and spies. But for many years I was also a semi-hardened moderate activist, dedicated to the cause of world evolution.
Second thoughts (plus a generous grant from the Sarah Scaife Foundation) eventually led me to see the church for what it really is: a non-dogmatic, non-authoritarian institution sincerely, if politely, opposed to those traditional moral values -- hatred, intolerance, cruelty -- that have helped make Bush Country what it is today.
The closer I looked, the more I realized what a threat "UUism" posed to our red-state way of life. It hardly took a weatherman to see which way the wind was blowing inside the church: Potluck suppers, youth camp singalongs, respect-in-the-sanctuary training -- the whole liberal totalitarian tool set. So I got my family out, while there was still time.
Now I see how right I was. It seems some religions (Unitarian Universalism, Christian Science, the Teletubbies) just have a fatal attraction towards rationality. It's a disease -- a symptom of a backward culture in deep crisis, unable to cope with the xenophobic bigotry and fundamentalist superstitions of modern society.
Some people say we should destroy these intellectual terrorists -- invade their churches, kill their discussion leaders and convert them all at gunpoint to our mainstream conservative values. But that would be futile. Force is useless against the rational mind. The only thing these terrorists understand is cold, hard reason.
That's why the only solution, I'm afraid, is to hunt them down, one by one, and persuade them -- with massive, overwhelming logical firepower -- that resistance is futile, and that the archaic Enlightment values they hold dear are now as obsolete as democracy itself.
It won't be easy: Unitarian Jihad is cunning, and can count on the support of Bush Country's other mortal enemies: the Democrats (except Joe Lieberman, of course), the French, the liberal arts majors. But with time, and a relentless religious witch hunt, I'm sure this war can be won.
So just remember, Unitarian Jihad: You can run, but you can't hide. We're going to smoke you out of your holes, dig you out of your caves, pull you out of your overstuffed armchairs at Starbucks. Then we'll see how skeptical you really are -- when you have to face the subtle syllogisms and brilliant arguments of our Grand Inquisitor:
It is approaching the witching hour & Hecate being in San Diego, I must depart lest I turn into a punkin (& because my alarm is set for 3 1/2 hours from now)
Thanks, Prior A. Bon soir ....
pull you out of your overstuffed armchairs at Starbucks.
Noooh! Anything but this! I surrender. Not that I'm a Unitarian, of course, never that. I wouldn't go so far in extremist moderation. But please leave me my Starbucks.
Incog:
Rats! I was just about to post a link to that post....
WGG - You are correct sir, the "last Mrs/Dr WGG" confused me that their was a "current".
chris/tx --- 11:56 pm
kewl...now we got that cleared up, ya got any female relatives inside 50 miles of the North Valley?
"I seem to remember something about "standards" with an "even I have them" caveat being bandied about somewhere by someone" hmmmmmmmm....."
Hey, I had to let my husband have his turn, y'know!
Hmmmm.
Is everyone here today as anxious and out of sorts as folks out in the 3-D world?
I guess I could say hello again, and see what happens....
"...pull you out of your overstuffed armchairs at Starbucks."
What if you get your 'bucks to go?
Hello, mena!
I'm quite happy today. Had a cappuccino (no caf.) at my local Starbucks and all. And Sallyh, no, to go won't do. I'm sorry but I must be adamantly moderate about that! Only over my dead body, though there's nothing wrong with that, of course.
Pulled from Billmon's blog:
clever...witty stuff...This the Democrats (except Joe Lieberman, of course), the French, the liberal arts majors. reminded me of an essay i read by Clifford Geertz, the prototypical wandering ethnographer describing the intrerpersonal dynamics among Arabic herders and a Jewish trader named Cohn, for some reason...
...minds are really funny 'places'...
.
and clearly the character limit is somehow off...
Howdy, Mena 
Sarah D--for many, such as my inlaws, the Church was the anchor for them. They did not blindly buy into all they were told, but they understood the rationale for much of what they were. My inlaws were the kindest people in the world, as well as intellectually thoughtful. (My father in law had no education beyond high school, but as an amateur historian, he was beyond reproach.)
They never beat anyone over the head with their faith. They did insist on it when the kids were young, and my father in law prefers that we honor his traditions when we're in his home.(i have no troubles with that).
The priests in my parish are wonderfully down to earth. While I haven't heard them explicitly condone artificial contraception, I do hear them repeat over and over 'to have only those that can be provided for.'
I'm not religious myself, but consider myself a cultural Catholic. The history is rich and fascinating, sacred and profane and mundane.
Catholics on the ground, without too many exceptions, are nothing like what the media portrays them to be.
Echidne--to go's not doing it anymore?
But...the wireless rates are usurious at mine!
Phew! Thanks, it's been one of those kinda days...
It looks as though it's been slow here today. I've been wiring a garage with a friend, and haven't watched or listened to news. Didn't feel up to it today. Everyone has seemed really stressed.
WGG - I got my sis'ta whose a virgin with three kids. No, sorry my friend on the female relations in NM. But will keep my eyes open for ya on middled-age, artistic, well educated skank .
Mena--I confess that a traitor/heretic type set me off on a thread this morning. I really lost it.
Well, I do still have red hair.
The day improved, however
Sallyh,
It is my belief - and I'm certainly liable to be wrong - that your family would have been decent and ethical without the prop of "Faith".
SD
You may have to-go, Sallyh, there's nothing wrong with that, for others, of course... But I need to have a Starbucks, need it. I do a lot of writing in them and learn a lot about people of a certain type. And here they have a wonderful pumpkin bread that my dogs like.
Mena: In answer to your query:
Today has been, from a consciousness perspective, for me, one of the more difficult in recent memory...
but i also think too that there is occuring a--dare i say--stiffening in the opposition, a--good god, again?--hardening of resolve, a--yerch--swelling of resistance... The stakes are much clearer, to more people, today, than they were hitherto...
I'll feel better if this resurgence of real repulsion and gut-level fear&loathing makes it into next week...
that's how i read it, anyway..
.
... Sad part is she is a fundie. And yes, I am crying in my G&T.
chris/tx
all of her?
Sarah D--I agree with you in that religion does not = morality. But for many, real faith is a source of hope, strength and love. I have the greatest of respect for them.
The brand of Xtianity being sold today is anything but. Call them what they are--heretics.
"I'm Suffering from Heretic Fatigue."
Glad to hear it Sally. Just as example, I came in a while ago and said hi on the top thread. Nothing. I've had that out of step with everyone feeling all day.
Got a good afternoon's work in with a friend. It's good to accomplish something with your hands.
The country's still in a world of shit, though, yeah.
Echidne--sometime, I must send Hank and Henrietta some of my homemade pumpkin bread. Anything for the pets, y'know
focus - Divorced, 28, recently engaged, saving it for marriage, poor sap is going to find out the hard way what you see and what you get are two different things.
I'll feel better if this resurgence of real repulsion and gut-level fear&loathing makes it into next week...
Hear. Hear.
I don't think I can take it if this coming to grips with the reality of Rethug-ism turns out to be a blip. If next week is same-old, same-old I'll do something drastic.
Mena--I have great admiration for people who are sufficiently skilled to do what you did today. For me, painting the cupboards was major.
"I'm Suffering from Heretic Fatigue."
I have seen this among my friends. It's just too much to get angry or upset almost every morning. I take the weekends off from frothing-at-the-mouth myself. But the rest of the week I'm like a killer bee buzzing around.
...I came in a while ago and said hi on the top thread....
hello mena! wassup? how was work today? BTW your hands look different, what gives?
Actually, I do enjoy the sitdown at Starbucks when the opportunity arises. This afternoon, I took my daughter and her friend with me and we indulged in Vente Caramel Frapuccinos and laughed so hard we were crying. Not much work done there, but a good time was had by all.
We never get the armchairs, however--I'm a smoker so we sit outside.
Sallyh, pumpkin bread! It might not get to the hounds...
I make a very good date bread from an old family recipe, though dates seem to be a taste not everyone shares. The kinds of dates that are sticky, I mean.
That made it worse!
Can we all stop being Catholic now or do we have to wait until we see the white smoke?
Sallyh,
I must be honest w/you, but I see nothing but more mythology in Xianity. To me, it is no more valid than Zeus, Jupiter, Greek/Roman myths. It's the same damn thing, because we are too frightened to face our own deaths.
Now, I'm not an idiot. In fact, I'm a relatively well-educated person with a valid POV.
Why people need other-worldly ballast for their beliefs is beyond me. They should trust their own instincts, IMHO.
I don't understand why they are unable to.
...Divorced, 28, recently engaged, saving it for marriage,
yeah, Cameron Diaz is kinda skinny anyway...
"I'm Suffering from Heretic Fatigue."
Glad to hear it Sally.
==
See what I mean?
Woody - Yes, I think I've been picking up that very unsettled vibe today. I think you're right to feel cautious about it, as any turning point (and we've had - how many now?) is inherently unstable, and I agree people are beginning to grasp how much is riding on any we have left. This response is probably comically out of sync, too, but I hope tomorrow is better for you.
Sallyh:
The reptiles are on here on the left coast. I wasn't planning to watch, but.....
Sarah--I feel your perspective on what is western religion is certainly a legitimate one.
yeah, Cameron Diaz is kinda skinny anyway...
BTW I told that look alike to quit com'n around, wave a hundy around a trailer park...
Flory--oh, do it! We got to see it at 6. The snakes rock. The cast, eh, not so much.
I don't understand why they are unable to.
Sarah Deere -12:45 am
by denying their instincts, they are able to escape responsibility for their own deaths???
it's complicated: by locating their nexus of life outside of life itself, their deaths, when they come, escape the quotidien...become transcendentantal, exceptional, for once...
claro?
.
sally - lemme guess...the guy who stays behind in camp - snake food?
Since things are tetchy all around, here's something good for a chuckle...
Romance Novels, Retitled
Focus - ????
Oh, and there's a link at the bottom for the seriously naughty ones
claro?
.
WoodyGsGuitar/Happy Desperado
claro que si- pero it is also escape of loss of the primary tribal units. we will meet again in paradise kinda thing
Sarah--I feel your perspective on what is western religion is certainly a legitimate one.
Sallyh
well, Sally, I would hope so.
I'm damned sick and tired of having Xianity shoved down my throat and having to be polite about it. Frankly, I think it's nonsense, but I always keep my mouth shut so as not to offend people who "believe" and their delicate sensibilities.
Well, Christ on a skateboard, if your "faith" is so fragile, what the fuck good is it???
Sorry, Sallyh. I've had it up to my eyeballs w/Xians.
They have fucked w/humankind enough, and paid back almost nothing.
Time for them to exit, stage left.
SD
Sarah--the ones you speak of, absolutely.
RIL is going to Montreal to practice her French !
BWAHAHAHAHA!
"le hole in le road!"
I don't appreciate all the "liberal" use of my BWWWHAA-HAAAing I've been seeing lately. If you must, keep it in lowercase like this ------> bwwwaaahahahaha.
Sally, those are great!
claro?
Si!
Focus - ????
mena
i was trying to make up for the non-comments above... and i am just glad to be in the same thread with you!
Since things are tetchy all around, here's something good for a chuckle...
Romance Novels, Retitled
Sallyh - 12:52 am : Dear heart! thank you for that...i laughed so hard my weed-asthma kicked in...
.
Sallyh:
Hee. What a hoot!!!!!
You're Dead - and thats Hot
Smooth Pits
rats! is adult onset dyslexia possible? cuz i am spelling numbers and shit?
Focus - bless your heart! Thanks, this place is..a balm, isn't it?
Again, I have chosen the wrong thread. Not threads, though. Heck, I was quoted in GQ, no shit!
.
SD:
Sorry, Sallyh. I've had it up to my eyeballs w/Xians.
They have fucked w/humankind enough, and paid back almost nothing.
Those people aren't Christians. My parents were Christians. The priest of my childhood, who died much too young, was a Christian. My neighbors, who drive an ambulance full of medicines to Central America every year, are Christians.
The people you're sick of - as am I - are Pharisees of the highest order.
this place is..a balm, isn't it?
yes, infinetly more than Giliad, sometimes i think that i finally understand the word oasis and what those lost nomads must feel when they find one in the desert
Wow - reptile tug-o-war.....with explorer!!!!!
I loved those Romance covers. It's true that the books are mostly lite porn, anyway, so maybe these covers would sell better than the real ones.
Jeffraham, really? That's wonderful! May I have an autograph?
Echidne - somebody needs to dig up an old Fabio cover and retitle it "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter!".
oasis and what those lost nomads must feel when they find one in the desert
focus -- 1:10 am
brother, you have just hit serendipitously upon the exact epistemology of desert religion: there is either water or there is not: either/or; monotheistic Manicheanism.
All the desert religions suffer this philosophical flaw...
Forest religions, on the other hand, are rich and fecund, and idverse and polymorphic, cuz that's the way life in among the tres IS!
oasis and what those lost nomads must feel when they find one in the desert
focus -- 1:10 am
iirc, "heaven" is 'garden', originally, somehow, in arabic or aramaic or some such...
language games!!
WGG, what do you mean serendipitously ?
Or, Mena, "I Can't Believe I Forgot the Lube!"
Quebecois is French with beaucoup de franglais and a Jersey accent.
For example: "On fait le fun a mon job, surtout quand le boss est pas la." ("We have fun at my job, especially when the boss isn't there.") And "les enfants" (the children") is pronounced "laze enn-faynt," not "laze ahn-fahnt" as you learned in French class. Similarly, "besoin" (need) is prounounced "bez-wayne," not "bez-wahn." Very Sopranos-ish.
Which reminds me: I just read Safliar's language column from last week (loathe his politics, but occasionally his language column is interesting), which was all about the various reasons why Vladimir Putin's is transliterated in French as "Poutine." Of course one problem with that spelling (which he does mention) is that "poutine" is also the name of the quintessential French-Canadian junk food, French fries covered with cheese curds and vinegar. Just looking at it will gain you 20 pounds.
there is either water or there is not: either/or; monotheistic Manicheanism.
This is everywhere in the culture here in the States. I don't remember it so much in Europe but I may have not been observing as much. The false dualistic thinking is what goes on in the media all the time, too, especially when it's not the best frame for thinking about something. I have seen it so much in the writings about gender, the idea that "woman" = "not-man" and the idiocies that follow from that. Yet some people don't get it even after I rant and rave for hours. Funny, that.
WGG, what do you mean serendipitously ?
focus -- 1:17 am
it means "by happy chance", refers to the isle of Serendip: "Horace Walpole coined the word Serendipity in 1754 from the title of the fairy-tale 'The three Princes of Serendip', whose heroes 'were always making discoveries, by accidents and sagacity, of things they were not in quest of'. Serendip was also the former name for Ceylon (Sri Lanka) and the notion of Serendipity - happy chance finds - could not be more appropriate to this most beautiful of islands. "
just that...
it's complicated: by locating their nexus of life outside of life itself, their deaths, when they come, escape the quotidien...become transcendentantal, exceptional, for once...
Nah, it's simple. really, as are most things.
It's just nonsense.
WGG, to paraphrase Freud, there is no serendipity.
Those people aren't Christians. My parents were Christians. The priest of my childhood, who died much too young, was a Christian. My neighbors, who drive an ambulance full of medicines to Central America every year, are Christians.
Flory, these people are humanitarians.
Honestly, Christ doesn't have one fucking thing to do w/it. Your parents would have been decent, caring people with or without Christ. Its simply who they were.
SD
Oh, and I should also point out that my "last name," "monchum" comes from Quebecois franglais. "Mon chum" = my chum, my buddy or, for gay men, my lover, partner, etc.
Funny thing is, even though widely used in Canadian French, "chum" is almost obsolete in American and Canadian English. Hardly anyone uses it, except maybe in a vaguely threatening manner. ("Hey, chum, come back here and pay your bill or we'll call the cops.")
dodgers- 12
d-backs- 8
in the 11th
... talk about yer happy chance!
focus:
I din't know Freud took up serendipity, paraphrased or otherwise...Freud wasn't wrong about much (there are exceptions, but not really central ones) though perhaps he suffered from a generational inclination towards determinism...
.
"Chum" is common in Britain, though. And "chummy", too.
Sweet dreams, moonbats.
...have I mentioned I also take issue w/sports?
(trying, obviously, for the title of most eschewed...)
Freud wasn't wrong about much
He was seriously wrong about penis envy.
In fact, he was pretty wrong about women's psychology altogether.
SD:
Flory, these people are humanitarians.
I can't deny that - but they honestly lived their faith. Christ *was* their inspiration.
They may've been the same people worshipping Ba'al, but they took the meaning of Christ's life seriously and try/tried to live it.
Those are Christians.
What we've been force-fed these last months are fucking Pharisees.
Jesus didn't much care for Pharisees.
Freud wasn't wrong about much..
Unless you have ovaries.
In fact, he was pretty wrong about women's psychology altogether.
Echidne of the snakes 1:30 am
he was not very astute about women's psycho-sexuality; purblind might describe it...but the freudian psychology basis of mass consumption would indicate that he wasn't THAT far off...on some matters at any rate...
RES -
Montreal has reliable public transportation - you can get around fine, and won't need a car unless you want to see the countryside..
I prattled on for a while about my love of that city in a (much) earlier thread, dunno if you saw it or not..
flory,
people are "good" or they are "bad*.
They may ascribe it to whatever they like. but I believe the inclination is inherent in them.
The historicity of Jesus Chhrist is tenuous, at best.
I'm just fucking sick of all the shit that is being perpetrated in the name of JC and the silence of those, who, if they REALLY BELIEVE, should be doing something about.
I don;t particularly care what people believe p but...if they do believe that Jesus existed, then get off your fucking dead oasses and SPEAK the fuck up about what's going on in the gov't right now.
I don;'t give one shit about all the "good worls" Xians are supposedky doing. If you are not standing toe to toe w/GW Bush and his vile minions, you are not doing shit.
This is the battle - now is the time.
You believe in JC??? Step up to the fucking plate. Now.
Gonna pack it in, beloved and assorted moonbats, serpents, legends and humankindly folx...
one more shot of this delicious elixir from the valley of the River Spey and I retire...
rest ye well!
focus:
I din't know Freud took up serendipity, paraphrased or otherwise...
i believe freud postulated "there are no such thing as an accidents" infering that humans are driven to create their necessary conditions, ala- a spoiled chhild "acts out" for the needed attention it craves for self-validation. it cries and shakes or threatens other countries, others, by no accident, enable and moreover encourage this behavior for their own necessities... or somethin like that
If you are not standing toe to toe w/GW Bush and his vile minions, you are not doing shit.
A-fucking-men to that.
Night Woody, Echidne.
Sallyh:
Loved the link! I'll have to pass this one around to some people I know would appreciate it.
Any Xian who does not compete for Bush's federally funded grants that are "faith-based" that will counteract the vicious anti-JC principles has't got a hair on their ass.
I'm damned sick of the anti-christs taking the lead here. You all who claim to be "real" Xians, get to work.
You got the tax breaks, you got the "faith". Get to work.
Anything less is bullshit, and I, for one, am fucking tired of it. Put up or shut up.
Get busy.
SD
Sarah--many organizations apply, but right now, unless you are from a sect that preaches a brand of fundamentalist protestantism, you ain't getting anything.
Sarah--many organizations apply, but right now, unless you are from a sect that preaches a brand of fundamentalist protestantism, you ain't getting anything.
Sallyh
Then raise a stink. A Big One.
SD
Guess O'Whorely has his talking Points Memo for Monday night. "Frank Rich and the Secularists at the NY Times are at it again..."
Is "secularist" the new "liberal?"
I'm reading it in way too many places now not to be suspicious.
I think the word is becoming the right's new bete noir.
Ooops, pardon moi French.
Is "secularist" the new "liberal?"
Jeebus H. Keerist.
Just when I was getting used to 'progressive'.
*grumble*
there is a really long detailed review of revelations the t.v. show ( not the facial cream) at newsday's website this morning...makes it sound zany, incoherent and offensive enough to be a must see...
"Once the culture of death at its most virulent intersects with politicians in power, it starts to inflict damage on the living."
Frank Rich
(sounds like the opening line to the beginning of a splatter film. Go reds!)
Is "secularist" the new "liberal?"
I think so. I noticed a sudden surge in the use of "secularist" by O'Reilly, Ingraham and Fox last week. It appears to be a full court press to separate out the sinners from the saved.
Hey, someone's gotta keep an eye/ear on these gasbags (it's hard work you know...hard, hard work).
A quarterly report from Bush-Cheney media enterprises By Norman Solomon
Jordan Times, April 7, 2005
Excerpt:
On cable television, satisfactory trends continue. At MSNBC, the process of imitating Fox News Channel is apparently secure. Other good news: The benign junk quotient on prime-time CNN continues to rise, with a welcome boost from the Michael Jackson trial. Overall, the ambient TV trajectory is edging towards our target: “No journalism is good journalism.”
http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opini...n%
20Solomon.htm
CSPAN2 is rerunning a speech by Ward Churchill. Putting his foot in several peoples ass.
Sport sex and a fishy smell make me the uncrowned queen of the endtimes. N'est-ce pas ?
Royal bus??? It should have been a royal coffin.
CSPAN2 is rerunning a speech by Ward Churchill. Putting his foot in several peoples ass.
klyde -- 8:53 am
Normally, he says no more than needs saying...if boots go up asses in the process, well, it's just impartial scholarship...
Ward rocks..
The historicity of Jesus Chhrist is tenuous, at best.
no, it isn't. That battle ended in the 19th century.
I'm just fucking sick of all the shit that is being perpetrated in the name of JC and the silence of those, who, if they REALLY BELIEVE, should be doing something about.
About as sick as I am of someone trying to define my Xianity for me, be it James Dobson or you.
You don't like it, you do something. I'm not responsible for you and your faith or lack thereof (whichever way you want to put it, I don't care). You aren't responsible for my faith.
Ease up outta my face.
If anyone reads this, please accept my apologies for seearing and carrying on unnecessarily. I become about xianity somewhat like incog re: straight people when I'm in my cups. My apologies to Sallyh, who, despite my abusiveness, continued to treat me with reason and politeness. More than I deserved.
However, in the cold light of day, I can also say that I would not get in anyone's face if religion of some sort of another didn't get in my face, every day, and I do resent it.
The word "faith"... the idea that if I don't believe I am somehow "lacking" something also irritates the fool out of me. It's condescending in the extreme.
So, there you go, I suppose. Same feelings, just not full of swear words and screaming anger.
SD
While I'm sympathetic to Rich's point of view, I don't thnk he's such a great writer. First of all, he writes too long, and he seizes (and recycles) one idea and rides it for all he can get (with the help of Lexis/Nexus). Does he really provide any insights that any of us haven't had? He's a bit too earnest for me, too. I prefer the snark of Dowd, the smarts and lucid writing of Krugman, and the passion of Herbert on the Times Op-ed page.
rolex watch
Replica watches
louis vuitton handbags
luxury watches
replica chanel
replica movado
Characters Remaining:
Commenting by HaloScan
