I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

GravatarSoon, George will be strong enough to ascend to Super Saiyan 3, and NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO DEFEAT HIM AGAIN!

Idiot.


GravatarIt's like the fucker is hoping for more terror attacks. I thought it was liberals who wanted that.

and Fuck Frist


GravatarWith every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger.

Less Terrorism = Dear leader was right all along and he beat back the forces of evil.

More Terrorism = Dear leader becomes stronger as we realize he was right all along and we need his pre-emptive wars to keep us safe.

No matter what happens, Dear Leader was right all along. See how that works?


GravatarHey, all. Just a drive-by, but... jayzus kee-ryste on a minibike. We're back in Neanderthal times -- "leader strong, leader good" -- and nobody wants to admit the truth that [a] leader am completely wrong and [b] leader too dumb to know it.

Steadfastness and apparent lack of fear born of not being able to recognize oncoming danger is not strength.


GravatarBlackmail? That's in interesting interpritation of election results. Silvio's party lost in 11 out of 13 regions, and just this week one of the parties dropped out, trying to force him to make major changes. That's what it sounds like, from what I can tell anyway.


GravatarSo basically, Bush is Obi-Wan, while the terror thugs/the media/Howard Dean are Darth Vader: every time they strike him down, he will come back with powers we can't imagine.


GravatarF-ing idiot.

He is as looney as Herr Otto Reich

Master of propaganda!


GravatarThe Mayor and his jester the town idiot Pat Buchanan are the worst

I certainly hope he is planning on apologizing to Michael Schiavo for calling his a variety of things

And now Schiavo has been cleared of all the abuse allegations

Will the mayor be talking about that

And of course -he wears the costume of the day a flight suit even though he never served in the military

he is a cheating husband now on his second family


GravatarWell what do you expoect from a man who won't be deterred by dead interns?


GravatarI know this belongs to the e-mail thread... but don't most e-mail services offer a 'block' feature that you can put certain names(such as his) on?

As for terror attacks, why don't they point out that Bush and his team have a history of negotiating with or creating terrorist organizations? Heck, we even recognized a military coup in Venez. before it was even legitimate because it supposedly suited our interests. He doesn't care about anybody but himself, and with double-think mantras like that his base eats it up.


GravatarScarborough looks like a serial killer


GravatarI always said that when these guys accused liberals of wanting more terror attacks to further their cause, these comments were more reflective of them than liberals. I think this comment is proof of that.


GravatarI think this has far more to do with the American people having the collective attention span of an amoeba, plus the ever restless spin cycles of the media, already on the lookout for the next Terri Schiavo. Hostages begging for their lives on videotape? That's so old. (Unless of course you happen to be the hostage in question.) I doubt that Bush himself gives much thought to Iraq or terrorism these days. If in fact he can be said to "give thought" to anything.

Boy am I grumpy today. Better go have some more coffee.


Gravatarpsssst...Joe has a crush...don't tell santorum


Gravatarthe wingnuts toss Silvio like yesterday's pasta.


GravatarOT: Berlusconi government fall.

Christian Democrats bail out of coalition.


Gravatarisnt this just another version of "BRING IT ON"?


GravatarI can only imagine what he would have said if Saddam had unleashed his biological and chemical weapons that he had stored in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad, North, South, East and West somewhat.


Gravatar"leader strong, leader good"

IOW, a strongman.


GravatarStrange that the man who grows stronger with each terrrorist attack has the lowest poll numbers of his horrid preesidency.


GravatarJoe "This killing thing just isn't making headlines anymore."

No shit, the MSM dutifully ignores anything the Bush regime finds distasteful.


GravatarSorry... "east, west, north and south somewhat." I'd hate to misrepresent the claims of our SecDef.


GravatarNim - Of course the Busheviks hope for more terra terra terra. Busheviks, as ass-rocket proves time and again, refuse under any circumstances to accept responsibility for their failures. (Fail to protect 'Murka? Must be the Clenis's fault. Misidentify honest documents as forgeries? Musta been some other dude and documents. Trade deficit keeps skyrocketing? Blame China and promote the US Trade Representative to Deputy Secretary of State.) And the Busheviks claim responsiblity for the non-actions of others. (Terra-ists didnt attack, cuz we wuz strong and decisive. *snicker*)

Only dimwits (or folks from Dimwit TX) would fall for such demagoguery, but has anybody ever lost a bet overestimating the stupidity and naivete and insularity of the American populace?


GravatarSo, Joe, how is Bush's security apparatus working?


GravatarKidnappings, beheadings, car bombings are nothing more than sound and fury signifying nothing.

Culture of Life only applies to white americans I guess. Innocent life taken in Iraq signifies nothing.

Joe Scarborough- Full of sound & fury & himself.

More souls for super-deformed Bush to feed on. We need the wandering Kid to defeat him.


GravatarIsn't Scarborough a bit too tall to be tea-bagging a shrimp like Bush? I mean, he must have to really squeeze down in under there....

"Mmmm", sez Joe, "sweaty manly Republican fake-tough-guy ball sack."

Hopefully he's at least come clean with his wife about his mid-life man-crush.


GravatarWith every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger.

Is he speaking of the odor that emanates from this administration?

For surely, with anything that happens the stench does grow stronger.


GravatarI guess Joe is drawing on experience.

The death of Lori Klausutis made Joe stronger and led to a paid gig on MSGOP.


GravatarNobody ought ot let Scarborough appear any-fucking-where without presenting him with a featuring the dead intern in his florida office, Lori Klausutis...he should be asked at every opportunity what happened, and if he refuses to talk, that should be the end of any conversation...period...

if shame wont shut the motherfucker up, i would happily knee-cap the beetle-browed fascist fuck...


GravatarIn fact, he will only be helped by further terror attacks and civilian murders.

Civilian murders? Like the ones that are going on in Iraq?


GravatarFaith Fuck Joe Scarblow.

And that "deterred by dead interns" comment above was priceless!


Gravataron the fox news money show this a.m. one of their panelists told zell miller he was "the president's wet dream". is that something the fcc would be interested in hearing about?


GravatarSo fuel dictators like Saddam with money and weapons and defeat them to make your self stronger, Rinse and Repeat!

Soon you are invincible and you have shiny and sexy hair!

Even if the rest of the world doesn't think so. . .
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/ 0,2...9888a10,00.html


GravatarOT: Clarification:
Democristians formally pull out of government and on Monday President Champi has to decide whether to tell Berlusconi to attempt to form a new goverment; if Berlusconi cannot, then general elections will be called. Or something like that.


GravatarObi Wan Bush now?

That's my belly laugh for the morning. Thanks for the catch, A. Not like I would have known otherwise, I'm not masochist enough to watch TeflonConditScarborough.


GravatarHas everybody already seen this and talked it to death? (See the link in my homepage.)

Seems 2004 was the worst year for acts of international terrorism--according to the State Dept's annual report--since 1985.

They will now stop publishing the report.

Problem solved.


GravatarDid I mention I LOVE Hell-o-scan?


GravatarSee, so now it is conservatives who are rooting for the insurgents to perpetrate more violence in Iraq.

I mean, it makes their president stronger, so they at least have a conflict of interest, right?


GravatarActually this concerns me, it may mean that they have reason to believe an attack is possible and are preparing political damage control in advance.

It is also possible someone or some group is blackmailing Bush.


GravatarOkay, so maybe my link didn't work.

Here it is, the low-tech way:

http:// seattletimes.nwsource.com...2_terror16.html


GravatarWe aren't the only ones suppressing terror reports. FT.com

"Europe's human rights watchdog has agreed to delay the publication of a controversial report on UK conduct in the war on terror after receiving a request from the government.

A draft version of the report was handed to the government three weeks ago for ministers to respond prior to its scheduled publication on April 20.

But, instead, the foreign office has told Alvaro Gil Robles, the author of the report and commissioner for human rights at the Council of Europe, that it would not be "appropriate" for ministers to comment on the report during an election campaign."

How silly! Why would anyone want to discuss details during an election?


Gravatarisnt this just another version of "BRING IT ON"?


I'm pretty sure it is.


GravatarOne of the worst parts is, Scarborough is another one who doesn't HAVE to be this goddamn stupid. I mean...Hannity, sure. He's an idiot and a natural born liar. But Scarborough can stick his head up out of the muck now and then.

When he goes into that smug-ass "real deal" business while licking Bush's nether regions, I just want to punt the bastard from here to Peoria.

His enemies are vanguished.

"Except that..um...bin Ladin guy and the...err...people who are killing American soldiers and Iraqis with truck bombs....

But the good news is, kids...that meanie Michael Moore didn't get an Oscar! Yay!!! We win! We win!"

Whatta fatuous, slimy fathead. He nees to change the name of his show to "Scarborough's Circus".


GravatarOT - As much as I hate Texas and it's satellite red states and the crap they've inflicted upon America, I don't turn away job applicants from there. If anything, showing them they can have good jobs in good neighborhoods with good schools with a wonderful company (I hope), maybe they'll impress on their librul-hating family and friends that we're not all bad...


GravatarPoor Joe has become completely unhinged. You see, he never really got over the bitch-slapping that prominent neurologist gave him right there on his own show a couple of weeks ago (at the height of the Terry Schiavo necrophilia fest). And to think, they replaced Phil Donohue (a higher rated program!) with this schmuck. Scarborough CUNTry indeed!


GravatarRead what the man on the street thinks of Delay!

http://www.theonion.com/wdyt/ind....php? issue=4115

I love the first lady!


GravatarHow strong can the Chimpführer get?
Get a whiff of his fur when it's wet.
His keepers are masked,
Whenever they're asked,
To drag him off the fucking vet.


GravatarUh, "... off to ..."


GravatarThe madder Bush gets, the stronger Bush gets!!!


GravatarI certainly hope he is planning on apologizing to Michael Schiavo for calling his a variety of things

And now Schiavo has been cleared of all the abuse allegations...


Gee, you think they have anything about that at CNN? Oh, I guess that story got bumped for the much-more-newsworthy "Surfer fends off shark attack" alert. Or maybe it was the "Jackson attorney, accuser's mom spar in court" bulletin. Anyway, it's not like CNN was letting every moronic brownshirt fuck and his dog come on their shows and just make shit up about Michael Schiavo for several week stratight...


GravatarWhat do these terrorists take Bush for? An Italian PM?


che stronzo

vaffanculo, Joe Scarborough. Tu sei figlio di cento cani.


GravatarBizarro World 2005

We get attacked again, George Bush is "the man" to retaliate and thank God Kerry didn't win.

We don't get attacked, what a great job George Bush has done fighting terrorists!

Nothing really matters anymore, it's all just spin. We're doomed.


GravatarIf you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.


GravatarHe will not be blackmailed. He will not give in....With every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger. His enemies are vanquished...

Scarborough sounds like he got his world view from spending his teen years playing D&D with imaginary friends in his mom’s basement. He probably thinks the Plains of Mugwold and the Lost Valley of Wankaara are real places in the Middle East, that Dubya’s going to take out as soon as he reaches level 14 and masters the elven bow.


Gravatar(sorry had thoughts and time today)

Willful Ignorance

As a teacher, one of my main functions is to instill intellectual curiosity in my students. I strive every day to make sure that my students have this most essential of commodities. A person who is intellectually curious, and not lazy, can find their way to understanding . . . at least in time. When we encounter a concept that I think they might not understand, I stop everything and make them think. Extrapolating information is good for a person. It differentiates us from those who simply accept information as given. I have explained, patiently and impatiently, that having the ability to verify information is the reason for learning to read and think. “If you do not have the ability to determine whether something is true or not: then you simply have to believe what people tell you - whether it is right or wrong.”

Having been a teacher, and performing this same task, for more than twenty years now: I can sadly report that intellectual curiosity has reached a new low. It is not so much that children today are less intelligent than their forebears, it is that they simply do not care. They have been taught to accept information as given and never question anything. I berate them (sometimes quite forcefully) on this but it is like butting one’s head against a wall.

So this lack of intellectual curiosity has as a corollary, willful ignorance. It is not so much that students do not know. It is much worse because they simply do not want to know. They cannot be bothered with the effort of consideration. The reasons for this lack of intellectual effort are the basis for this essay.

Intellectually, we have known about such phenomena for years. Whether it the theory of cognitive dissonance, or the selective perceptions that dog all of us: the basis for our ignorance is understood. Those of us who cannot accept information as if it were given by a god to pitiful humans find a way to challenge these ideas. Examples are legion as to how we do this. For me one of the chief joys, and one I do not use as often as I feel I should, is the internet. It is the most amazing collection of information ever assembled. Yes, there are limitless sex sites promising the world, but there are also limitless sites that carry a repository of information that exceeds anything mankind has ever known. But sometimes this information is simply overwhelming and not particularly easy to find.

With so much information, the tendency is to try to limit this information. When we establish limits, then consideration becomes easier. So, instead of picking through the many sources of information, we establish priorities for determining truth. The easier that such sources are for us to understand and access: the more we will accept them as being reliable. It is not so much that the information is correct: it is simply easy. Think of the right wing talk radio people here. It is not so much that they are wrong - for they often are - it is that sometimes they are right. By mixing truth with falsehoods in a manner than is easy to understand, they manage to seduce those who suffer from the lack of intellectual will to differentiate sources of information.


Gravatar"The Leader is good,
The Leader is great,
We surrender our will
As of this date."


GravatarThis was too funny from one of the idiots at powerline on the Clinton/Bush friendship:

Clinton gets a chance to shine (or at least to show-off in public); he gains some much-needed respectability by associating with men of class and rectitude.


Gravatar(Willful Ignorance continued)
Assuming that we want to understand this willful ignorance, it is also important to understand the reasoning behind it. In many ways it can be a result of natural bigotry. Bigotry is always based in ignorance - that which we do not understand is less good than that which we do understand. But for us to deny its existence is simply silly. We all do this: the person who reasons understands this and makes an effort to fight these tendencies until they have been submerged by information that makes their basis suspect. In time, our natural contempt of anyone or anything different can be discounted - but never quite eliminated. In the willfully ignorant, the process of ameliorating these thoughts is either non-existent or so far submerged in their minds as to be of no more importance than the appendix is for digesting food. Think of how we do this: we tend to sort ourselves into communities and learn the ways of the community we have chosen and then stay where we are comfortable. I recently spent a week in Chicago and the large city is a good example. With millions of people in the city, they all tend to live in small enclaves. My sister lives in a community that is mostly Irish. I believe this is the case in most of this country. Whether it is the church we choose, the drinking establishments we frequent, or even the activities we pursue when we are not working: we all tend to find a place where we can accept others, and have other accept us.

But whether we live this way consciously or subconsciously, the fact remains that we do this. Hell, even on this website the examples are many. I come here to be among people who are more like me: or at least how I wish I was. I love the intellectual banter and the information that people that I perceive as being more intelligent and world-wise than I am that this site, offer. I am well-aware of my limitations both in education and experience. Because I am aware of my limitations, I try to compensate by seeking information and perceptions that are not mine: but still worthy. My favorite things are listening to the thoughts of you who are unlike me. I live in a very sheltered world. Muskegon is a town of about fifty thousand people. In the scheme of things, it would have to be considered as a very small town. When I listen to my city friends, I learn things I did not know. When I incorporate this information into my world-view, it makes me stronger.

But if you are perfectly willing to never challenge your perceptions, you never will. I know this seems to be simplified nonsense, but I do not believe this to be the case. If you are willing to accept that you are correct, and have your “correctness” seconded by everyone in your world; then any information that is contrary must either be avoided or discounted. Avoidance is easiest. If we do not want to know something, then we will make no effort to learn anything. Our society has made such ignorance not only possible, but desirable. Fox News is good at this particular one. By presenting, inadequately, information that might be contrary to our world-view they allow their listeners to have a patina of understanding that is a mile wide and a millimeter thick. The so-called contrary voices are woefully inadequate. (In general) By allowing those who cannot present information forcefully and succinctly, the allow their particular views to dominate.

If we cannot avoid contrary information, then the sources of this information must be nullified in some way. Whether it is impugning the source or the information itself: an effort is made to completely discount this information that is contrary to our perceptions. Everyone here can give multiple examples of this so I will not belabor the point. Even though Tom DeLay is obviously a self-serving and immoral politician, his followers can still believe that he is right for the people saying that he is this way are people whom they would not normally believe. A couple of weeks ago when information about the bug man started coming from non-leftwing sources; the writing was on the wall.

(Part II will concern itself with how to counter such willful ignorance)


GravatarScarborough is nuts - now Georgie is SuperPrez? Has Scarborough seen how SuperPrez throws baseballs?

Blogwhore alert:

It's a pretty sad sight. Holden posted the picture of the first pitch SuperPrez "threw" to start the season.


GravatarPsss...Hey Joe...

Repeated terror attacks mean, duh, that Bush's strategy to stop terrorism is a failure.


GravatarAnyone here about an NBC person getting shot at?


GravatarIt is the libs who are ignorant and support terror. Their media bias against freedom and hard work, and for the gays, terrorists and socialism is all I hear on the liberal media. That's why we have FOX, some of us are sick of hearing incorrect information and lies. We are tired of liberals berating our country and our president, and God. We will cut down the tall trees, NOW.


GravatarOT, 1 pill makes you smaller da da da

No pension crisis for US corporate bosses
By Jamie Chapman
14 April 2005
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An annual income upwards of $10 million a year (See “The orgy continues: American CEOs pocket billions more in pay and perks”) should be sufficient to allow the boss to set aside sufficient funds to assure a comfortable retirement. Not taking any chances on their golden years, however, most CEOs have established Special Executive Retirement Plans (SERPs) that pay them many times the amounts allocated to ordinary workers.

Consider the situation of Henry McKinnell, chairman and CEO of Pfizer, Inc., the world’s largest pharmaceutical manufacturer. Last year, his annual compensation skyrocketed 72 percent to $16.6 million plus a stock option grant valued at another $4.3 million—this in spite of a 24 percent drop in the company’s stock last year over concern about losing patent protection for its blockbuster cholesterol-reducing drug Lipitor.

McKinnell will not have to worry, however, about having to cut back his living standard after retirement, which is expected in three years’ time. Because of his SERP, Pfizer will pay him some $6.5 million a year for life.

In case one is wondering how the drug maker can afford to offer such a lavish pension to a single executive, one only has to look at this month’s announcement of a $4 billion annual cost-cutting plan. While Wall Street analysts were pleased, many workers were not. By one estimate, as many as 10,000 jobs out of a global workforce of 115,000 are expected to be eliminated. Last month, the company announced the closing of its plant in Holland, Michigan, the first among several considered less efficient. In this case, 300 jobs will be destroyed.

On April 7, the federal Food and Drug Administration ordered Pfizer to withdraw from the market its painkiller Bextra due to safety issues, as well as to attach a strong warning to its labeling on the even more popular painkiller Celebrex, determined to cause an increase in the risk of heart attacks, among other problems.

McKinnell is hardly alone in arranging a multimillion-dollar pension upon retirement. The chief executive of Exxon-Mobil, Lee Raymond, is due to receive $5.9 million every year. Others on the gravy train for life include Edward Whitacre of SBC Communications at $5.5 million; William McGuire of UnitedHealth Group at $5.1 million; and Robert Nardelli of Home Depot at $3.9 million.

McGuire took home no less than $210 million in salary, bonus, and stock option gains over the prior 10 years. Whitacre received $104 million over the same period.

The fate of Franklin Raines, the head of the federally chartered mortgage lender Fannie Mae, demonstrates that scandal and disgrace are no bar to receiving a full pension. Raines was ousted in December after a $9 billion accounting discrepancy was uncovered. He is still assured his retirement pay, which is valued at $25 million total. He even had a provision written into his employment contract that his $1.4 million annual pension would pass on to his wife should she survive him.

The costs of the exorbitant retirement plans afforded to chief executives are usually hidden from view. For public corporations, salary, bonus, and stock options for the five highest paid officers must be disclosed in company filings. Executive pension costs, however, are often buried in tables in proxy statements that take an actuary to decipher.

Two other executive pension benefits frequently go undetected, hidden in footnotes to company documents. Glenn Tilton, chairman and CEO of the bankrupt United Airlines, will receive his $4.5 million of retirement benefits regardless of the fate of his company. United set aside his future money in a trust that was fully funded. Meanwhile, Tilton is demanding that pilots and other unionized employees give up their own pension plans as a condition for bringing the company out of bankruptcy.

Another lucrative device is to add years of service to the tenure of the retiring CEO. Last year, Linn Draper of American Electric Power stepped down after 12 years with the company. His pension was calculated, however, crediting him with 36 years, resulting in a tripling of its value. A company spokesperson said such awards to CEOs were consistent with industry practice.

When Bank of America chairman Charles Gifford retired in January, his $3.1 million annual pension was apparently inadequate. As a supplement, he was awarded prime tickets to see the world championship Boston Red Sox baseball team. He also was given 120 hours’ use of the corporate jet, in the event he has to summon his guests to the games.

The provision of such perks, formerly confined to the CEOs’ working years, has more and more been extended into retirement, frequently for life.

When then-chairman of General Electric Jack Welch signed a retirement agreement in 1996, the board of directors agreed to provide him with “facilities and services” comparable to those received when working. As a result of a divorce lawsuit in 2002, it was revealed that, in addition to his stated $10 million annual pension, he was receiving use of a posh New York City corporate apartment, season tickets to premier sporting events around the world and a box at the Metropolitan Opera. Even such incidentals as maid and laundry service, daily delivery of cut flowers, and newspaper and magazine subscriptions were on the company’s tab.

Welch also received memberships in four exclusive country clubs, another must for both current and retired chief executives. ChoicePoint, a seller of consumer data based in Georgia, footed the bill for its head Derek Smith to play golf. The initiation came to $150,000, with annual dues of $21,058 last year.

Other common requirements include the fees for tax advice and investment analysis. In many cases, the benefit also includes reimbursement of higher income taxes owed for use of the services.

Bank of America last year spent $35,889 for home security monitoring and to provide secured parking to Gifford’s successor as CEO, Kenneth Lewis. One CEO was given funds to allow him to donate to his favorite charity in his personal name. Another was provided money to fund a scholarship for his alma mater, also in his own name.


GravatarJoe Scarborogh is a Godly man, as is our president, and Bill Frist and Tom Delay. You liberals are moral midgets who must attack them to fel good about yourselves. Well, the feeling good is about to end. The wind is rising and we heartlanders, who are united FOR the USA and against her enemies, foreign and domestic, are standing up for truth and freedom. Beware.


GravatarLike kryptonite to stupid.


GravatarThe bad attack people do monster evil but George has fear? A thousand times no. He never doubts himself for a minute for he knows that his monkey strong bowels are girded with strength like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung. Glorious sunset of his heart is fading. Soon the super karate monkey death car will park in his space. But George has fancy plans — and pants to match. The monkey clown horrible karate round and yummy like cute small baby chick will beat the donkey.


GravatarJoe is admitting that Bush is collaborating with Bin Ladin.

Palpatine.


GravatarTruth to liberals is like holy water to a vampire.


GravatarShorter Joe: Republicans want more terrorism, because it helps Bush look stronger.

Bring it on!!


Gravatarmagnolia -- link?


GravatarOK, which one of you regulars is really America Has Freedom?

Own up, already. It's just a little too pat to be true.

BTW, LMFAO @ "Scarborough is a Godly man." Second belly laugh before lunch. If we're using Swaggart, Tilton and Bakker as Godly yardsticks, perhaps so.


GravatarClass warring liberals. The executives of these companies worked hard and earned their perks. They have far more responsibility and have made their shareholders wealthy. The economy is doing great, and those who have created the wealth should reap the rewards. If you don't like that system, either work harder or move to Europe.


GravatarSame for Johnson and Nixon!


Gravatarcs I heard it on radio during night. Air America


GravatarClean sheets, and for those that were trying earlier, bloglines is back up.


Gravatardwd:
i totally hear what you're saying, pardner...but i don't think of it as willful ignorance so much as--in Veblen's term--trained incapacity...

that takes the onus off the victim, and locates it where it belongs: in the school system...

the majority of parents, their protestations to the contrary notwithstanding, DO NOT WANT their children learning to be independent, thoughtful, or critical...too threatening...

moreover (i love to use that term), the major clients of the US school system--us bidness--does NOT WANT workers who are thoughtful, independent, or critical, either...too disruptive to the good order of the corporate hierarchy...

finally, the ostensible purpose of creating an informed, thoughtful, independent, critical citizenry is utterly anathema to the political system which organizes and fund schools...too disruptive to the thievery, mendacity, and venality of the pols...

to call it 'learned' suggests a volitional aspect to this phenomenon, which i would argue is a false analogy...students are trained, very completely and very thoroughly, by factors which are neither obvious nor overt, to behave in schools as they do...

just sayin....
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GravatarMagnolia -- I'll check AAR for mentions. Do you recall which show? Could it be reference to the CBS camera man shot at in Iraq by US troops?


Gravatardavid e has a fabulous post today!


GravatarOl' stranglin' Scarborough and the Bush Cult of Personality.

I wonder does Joe the Ripper realize how stupid he is making himself appear with sophomoric pronouncements about the Bush Boy.


GravatarAmerica Has Freedom | Email | Homepage | 04.16.05 - 12:28 pm |

After all the title of the thread is "Geek".


Gravatarpeace is not compatible with the right wing conception of power. never has been. never will be.


GravatarOops, wrong haloscan window. DOH!


GravatarFor anyone who has not heard the cabloids will all be full of the Christa Worthington murder trial now that they've made an arrest. It's got too many of the elements for them to pass it by. Glam victum who was sort of well known, Cape Cod setting, police incompetence, lousy novelization already published (the author will be their 'expert' of choice), serious princess - working class sex-romance angle with pregnancy, other suspects, black man accused. It won't be as big as OJ but it will be bigger than the Blake bust.

This is a warning. It's going to be tawdry. No one will have anything to be proud of except those who ignore it.


Gravatarcs-i was half asleep. it sounded to me like NYC in front of NBC. Some threats (death?) had been tossed around before. Maybe I was dreaming.


GravatarHere's what Babelfish did with renato's Italian:

that stronzo vaffanculo, Joe Scarborough. You six son of one hundred dogs"

I know why it refused to translate vaffanculo, but why didn't it get stronzo?

I thought che stronzo would mean "What nerve."

I'm also surprised it mistook sei for six--you'd think they could program the machine to recognize that sei after tu is almost certainly a very common verb.


GravatarSomeone got shot at a teevee station in Deetroit.


Gravatarcs-the show was a rerun. it was the news room.


Gravatar"With every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger."

Which is why he must be hopeing for one about now. Not only because his policies are so unpopular but the looming financial/economic crisis demands a scapegoat.

Which is why, in my more cynical and or paranoid moments I expect a significant terror attack soon.

Terror attack or not, some event external to the financial markets is desperately needed by the entire political and economic establishment in order to deflect blame for comming carnage. If it appears or not or will work or not I do not know.


Gravatarpie-i think that's it


Gravatarsaw holden's picture. why am i not surprised that the preznit throws like a girl?


GravatarYo, AHF...with the elections now fixed enough to insure eternal one-Partay rule, maybe you shoud change your handle to America HAD Freedom But We Stupidly Pissed It Away by Having Just Enough Mindless Boobs In Sufficient States To Make It Possible.

Revel in your victory while you can, but remember, although they have made you think that you are one of them, unless you are filthy rich, you are one of us, and us are being fucked over.


GravatarI think he meant to say: "With every new terror strike, the putrid stench surrounding George W. Bush only grows stronger."


Gravatar"In fact, he will only be helped by further terror attacks and civilian murders.

With every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger."

Shorter Scarborough: Yay, terror!


GravatarProbably, magnolia. It is an NBC affiliate.


GravatarWoody's guitar -- "trained incapacity", exactly! In the public high school I attended and where I was not trained to incapacity, I had an English teacher who rapsodized when words like "moreover" and "likewise" appeared effectively in student work.


GravatarSpeaking of Looneyville, this is from the LA Times:

Republicans have countered that Bolton is the victim of character assassination and has the tough personality needed to reform the troubled world body.

The Party may control everything of importance here, but since when did our Ambassador to the UN become that body's Dear Leader?


Gravatarfor some reason, with this preznit terrorist attacks are always calculated as feathers in his cap. any reasonable person would put sept 11 in the black eye column, but with george they go on the other side.


GravatarWith every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger.

From the AP:

Reports: Airport Security Hasn't Improved

Hmmmmm........


GravatarSomebody's been watching StarWarS too much.

You may strike me down but I'll become more powerful than you could ever imagine...or some thing like that.


GravatarSo, W has more of an interest in keeping the terror going than in bringing it to an end?

Sounds to me like somebody hates America.....


GravatarDWD--You're my hero. Wonderfully said, and needs to be said, loudly and often.


GravatarScarborough's a murderer.

Why are we talking to him?


GravatarBolton on the rocks?

Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska signaled Friday that his support for the nomination of John R. Bolton as U.N. ambassador was wavering after new reports that Bolton ordered an intelligence analyst removed from his job.

The analyst, a State Department employee who now works on Hagel's Senate staff, is the third intelligence analyst reported to have been threatened or intimidated by Bolton, who has served since 2001 as undersecretary of State for arms control and international security.

"Sen. Hagel is likely to be supportive [of Bolton] but he needs to be assured there are not additional serious areas of concern," Hagel spokesman Mike Buttry said, adding that Hagel was troubled by the new information.

Democrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee are investigating as many as five additional incidents in which Bolton's demeanor toward State Department subordinates has been questioned, say Senate staffers from both parties. In a confirmation hearing this week, testimony indicated Bolton demanded the removal of two intelligence analysts who disagreed with him.

Amid the developments, Hagel's remarks served as a warning that Bolton's confirmation, which had been considered assured, could falter if Democrats succeeded in producing more evidence against Bolton...

A committee vote is scheduled for Tuesday, and the outcome is no longer guaranteed. Republicans control the Senate Foreign Relations Committee 10 to 8. The Democrats all oppose Bolton.

Until Friday, the only Republican believed to be wavering in support of President Bush's U.N. nominee was Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, who had said he was inclined to vote for Bolton but had not made up his mind.

A majority of the committee is required to recommend the nomination to the full Senate. If Chafee or Hagel switched, it would create a tie and block the nomination. The committee chairman could ask members to send the nomination to the full Senate without a recommendation, but that action also would require a majority vote...


GravatarEighteen civilians were blown up yesterday and the world hardly noticed.

Suicide bombings. How 2004.


putting inside this grotesque and shocking characterization of what happened, is scarborough really advancing the idea that suicide bombings are a recent fad that we don't have to worry about anymore because "nobody notices" and they only "strengthen our resolve"?

he might try talking to some israelis.


GravatarChuck Hagel of Nebraska might vote against him but Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island can't bring himself not to let 'the president' have his choice. Is that how I remember it?

Atrios, if Little Lincoln Chafee should be your first Weeny of the Week. Chris Shays can be the second.


GravatarSteve S--how Scarborough even has a television slot is beyond me. Beyond his reprehensible politics, his system of false dichtomies obscures anything close to the truth of a matter.


GravatarAnd why does Bush grow stonger?

BECAUSE HE IS the Kwizsatz Haderach!


GravatarYes yes, terrorists ... go ahead and blow up all the marines you want! Behead a thousand hostages.

Nothing will TOUCH our fearless leader in Washington who LAUGHS at your pathetic attempts to terrorize our country.

Go on ... GO ON .. we WANT you to kill Americans. It only shows how truly invincible Generalissimo Bush is!! BWWAAAAA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!


GravatarAnyone ever notice how 'strong' is one of the few adjectives Bush knows? Not only that, it's clear that he doesn't have a real understanding of the definition.


GravatarThanks Sallyh,

Woody, I am just not sure that the schools are capable of promoting non-ignorance. As you know I do some writing, and I am always being victimized by "experts" who have never written anything worthwhile (and never will) coming to my school and trying to teach us poor ignoramuses how to teach writing.

They have tried to codify a process that, if you know anything at all about it, does not lend itself easily to codification. There are many different - and excellent- styles of writing. But these people attempt to break down everything into easily teachable pieces. When you do that, you end up with a mishmash of intellectually putrid shit.

But I am not sure that is their intention. I think they honestly do not know how to teach things like writing and thinking and so have substituted their own brand of intellectual honesty - something that is neither intellectual nor honest.

I look at the teachers I work with and simply sigh. Although they are nice people, they really have little understanding. Because they do not understand their own intellectual failings, they are incapable of giving their students that which they do not have.


GravatarJihadist Sunday!

Coming soon to a terrorist cel near you...


GravatarSallyh:
Seriously, I think the only reason
Scarborough has a TV show is because
he looks vaguely like Matthew Perry.

Other than than, I can't imagine
why a sane person at MSNBC gave
him a try-out.

Speaking of which, I'd like to
know just what executive that
was.



Come to think of it, if we could
find out who gave him the gig,
we could start a "Why does a
murderer have a show on MSNBC?"
write-in campaign.


Gravataroh....great....another "bring'm on"


Gravatarwe are having to read between the lines,moreover it can be misleading, and likewise a waste of time, although it feeds the illusion and keeps us in the game.


GravatarI find it interesting how the play on terrorism and our Invalid, Illegal, Immoral, Invasion of Iraq (IIIII)or I-5's, have lifted the Americans to a holier than thou cause whilst we kill and maim countless thousands in foreign lands. America, have you no moral values.


GravatarMore Deep thoughts from Joe Scarborough:

sometimes, a well-placed blow
can be disguised by a sharp desk corner
and a previous heart condition.
How does my hair look?


GravatarSallyh:
Seriously, I think the only reason
Scarborough has a TV show is because
he looks vaguely like Matthew Perry.


um, in a beat with the ugly stick kind of way. His beady eyes creep me out.
I'm all for the why did MSNBC hire a murderer campaign, though. Serve him right for all the lies he peddled about michael schiavo (who I hope is planning his lawsuit as we speak).


GravatarMatthew Perry? Is that the guy from Friends? I know I'm taking my life in my hands here, but I loathed Friends. Even my daughter got bored with it by the time she was 12.


GravatarSeriously, there must have been
a person at MSNBC who had the
bright idea to hire Scarborough.

We should find that who it is
and shame them.

"Why did you hire a murderer?"

I guarantee the network would drop
Joe in a New York minute......


Gravatardave--we need to counter with 'Social Justice Sunday,' as sponsored by the United Church of Christ, the Episcopal church (which welcomes you!), the Society of Friends, the Roman Catholic Church, the United Methodist Church, all branches of Judaism, Muslims of every stripe, etc. etc. And get people for the American Way and Americans for Separation of Church and State to sponsor.

This time, Archie McPhee's just ain't gonna cut it, although for the sake of nostalgia, we could have Cal Worthington.


GravatarSteve S--how Scarborough even has a television slot is beyond me. Beyond his reprehensible politics, his system of false dichtomies obscures anything close to the truth of a matter.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 04.16.05 - 1:04 pm | #

Maybe that's the price he paid to avoid prosecution. Blackmail isn't always paid in $....


GravatarIsn't it pretty to think so, steve.

If he killed an intern on air, maybe.

And just maybe.


GravatarJoe Scab at least had *some* minor pundit value as a former congressflunky from a disputed area of the '04 election. But after the crap he's pulled, why is he still around? A megaphone for fraud, as Hitchens correctly called him.

An attorney and lawmaker who pretends he doesn't know anything about the constitution. Doesn't compute, Joe.

He aspires to be some kind of warmed-over Sean Hannity.


GravatarSallyh - 'Social Justice Sunday,'

what a great idea! Seriously, this makes all kinds of sense to me. Let's put our values out there and let them go up against the radicals' idea of values - let people see what the fuck is going on.


GravatarSteve S--i'm not totally convinced they would drop him. They may consider him 'redeemed,' by the newest standards of what redemption is composed of.


GravatarDWD:
i'm a writer, too, though my skill expresses itself best in non-fiction/feature work...I know, as you do, a person cannot be taught to write, any more than a person can be taught to teach. Both are essentially creative activities, best developed by people whose interests already incline them in that way.

Did you ever read Louise Rosenblatt? She opined, forcefully and quite accurately, imho, that there were basically two styles of reading; efferently--with some end in view of gathering information-- and aesthetically, or for the mere pleasures which readers who read for pleasure know.

There is likewise a similar distinction/dynamic involved in writing. ome of us write because we cannot think of any other way to express ourselves fluently. Others write for the purpose of learning how to inscribe their thoughts for reference later...Donald Murray, of the U of NH (VT?) made quite a niche for himself teaching teachers about writing (not teaching the act itself, for that is learned with practice and with practice alone).

School is structured to make even the most thoughtful, lyrical, imaginative teachers look like fools... bells, neatly ordered rows of desks, pre-digeted 'lessons', decontextualized, rote, recitative utterances, high-stakes testing, everything urges uniformity, rewards obedience and passivity...

there's no excitement in learning under those circumstances, as even the best teachers will eventually, albeit reluctantly, concede...
.


Gravatar"An attorney and lawmaker who pretends he doesn't know anything about the constitution."

Jay C--what makes you think he paid attention in class?


GravatarJoe Scarborough always reminded me of Beavis or Butthead. Whichever one had the slittiest eyes and narrowest head.

Come to think of it, he is a cartoon character, isn't he.


GravatarTena--I'm actually emailing some orgs about the idea of SJS, and I'm going to talk to our parish priests, one of whom grew up in El Salvador and the other who was trained under Father Daniel Berrigan.


GravatarHaha Sallyh, I think I should have added how as someone who ignores the constitution he deserves to have his seat back in Washington...

I mean we have magical diagnosin' doctors and god-smooching judges, so what's one more constitution crapper?


GravatarWhat a douchebag. 18 civilians killed and the world didn't notice. I guess since their Arab, Joe, you don't care, but you don't speak for the rest of the world or the rest of this country. Asshole.


GravatarDavid Ehrenstein:

I'm shocked -- SHOCKED!!!!! -- to
find there's somebody here even
more cynical than I am.


GravatarSallyh - I'm impressed. I think it's just such a great idea that I'd love to see it take off and spread all over the country.


GravatarDavid E - I love your intro - that's truly fabulous.


GravatarTena--I have to believe that most people of faith are not sitting vacant in fundoid megachurches, but out in the world, doing the work of God on earth, and would be appalled by this.


GravatarSeriously --
There must have been a single
person at MSNBC who had the idea
to hire Scarborough.
I mean, I really doubt Joe had
an agent who pitched the idea.
Somebody at the network must have
had the idea. And advocated it.

Shouldn't be too hard to find out who
that was.

We could destroy both their careers.

"Why did you hire a murderer?"








And totally OT:
What's with the re-make of House of
Wax?

Like there's anybody on the planet
who doesn't know the plot twist?


Gravatar"Eighteen civilians were blown up yesterday and the world hardly noticed"

Well I guess Zarqawi must have read your column Joe because he's making headlines today.


Gravatarsallyh--keep us apprised of the details, I'd be glad to help out.


GravatarSallyh - Tena--I have to believe that most people of faith are not sitting vacant in fundoid megachurches, but out in the world, doing the work of God on earth, and would be appalled by this.

I agree, and I think right now is a great time to start fomenting a backlash - there's already one revving up over Frist's idiocy, so the momentum is already heading in that direction, IMO.


GravatarTena and TJ--I just think it's important for everyone, regardless of faith or not, to understand how serious these people are, and how dangerous.


GravatarSallyh - I just think it's important for everyone, regardless of faith or not, to understand how serious these people are, and how dangerous.

Yes - that's been missing in the public discussions up to now. Schiavo helped bring it out and Delay and Frist are helping the cause with their loony anti-judiciary frothings.


GravatarI posted this link to George Lakoff's diary at Kos on "Social Justice Sunday" earlier, but looks like it could use some more publicity. It's being sponsored by DriveDemocracy.org and the Clergy and Laity Network.


GravatarAnyone ever expect to see Joe Scabrous make a USO trip to Iraq?

I would fuckin' LOVE him being abducted, and ransomed, and then beheaded and his reeking corpse dragged through the street, a la Mogadishu...

Go JOE...


GravatarWhat's with the re-make of House of
Wax?


And not even in 3-D! WTF's the point???

(BTW, wasn't there an earlier remake, like in the 60s? I mean, aside from "Bucket of Blood"...)


Gravatar...the Episcopal church (which welcomes you!)...

Not only do they welcome you, their patron saint, Our Lady of the Extra-Dry Martini, will be mixing up a batch of her famous Bloody Marys after the service in the rec hall!


Gravatardave--thank you thank you thank you!

Now, if only we could get CNN to run this...

In a better world, one without the Bushes and their ilk.


GravatarOh, and don't forget - Democracy NOT Theocracy!


GravatarOf course Bush will never give in- he personally has nothing to lose- he is not one of the grunts getting shot at in Iraq or Afghanistan, he is not an innocent bystander who will get blown up by a car bomb in Baghdad. He, and his family, are safe and sound, guarded night and day by secret service agents and the military. Bush doesn't even lose any fucking sleep over the American and Iraqi deaths.


GravatarI really like Social Justice Sunday...

But lets' hold the ceremonies someplace rigorously secular, okay?

like a library?

or a homeless shelter?

something that doesn't reek of the same god the fascists are appealing to...

cuz they're not the same god, a lesson that would be lost by sacralizing the event...
.


Gravatar"You can't get too upset about things you just aren't seeing, ya know.... Move along now...."

Cheers,


GravatarHe, and his family, are safe and sound, guarded night and day by secret service agents and the military. Bush doesn't even lose any fucking sleep over the American and Iraqi deaths.
Redleg -- 1:50 pm


mebbe that could change? dunno how, though...just sayin', 'course...


GravatarWoodyG--I think the point is to have it everywhere, but a public park would be great! Most people of faith aren't locked up in their churches.


GravatarRedleg - Of course Bush will never give in-

No he won't. It's not in his nature - I don't think he'd change course no matter what. He'd march straight ahead off a cliff rather than admit an error.


GravatarDid some numbskull posit that Chimpy is getting stronger with every terror attack, with every civilian death?

Emmmmm Joe, checked out the polls lately?

Emmmmm Joe, watched the market crumble this past week?

Emmmmm Joe, heard about the Delay ethics inquiries? How about DeLay's use of the non-word "inartful"?

How about Frist accusing everyone that doesn't agree with his pathological religiosity as being faithless?

Emmmmm, Joe when you're a jerk, everyone knows, Joe.


GravatarDWD

A question for you. My department asked the writing faculty if they could put together a course for our students. Our students had been required to take a research writing course as a requirment before taking our upper division courses. But even though they had taken this course, very few of them could come close to writing a research review. Not to mention that they had trouble with complete sentences that were free of grammatical errors. The writing faculty told us that we had outdated ideas about what students should be able to do after taking a writing class. They refuse to teach basic writing mechanics because, "the literature shows that students don't learn to write by having their grammar and paragraph structure corrected by teachers."

We decided to drop the writing course and teach one of our own. Were we out to lunch or are writing teachers mostly as incompetent as their students?


GravatarI wonder if Georgie Boy would change his tune if something happened to Jenna or notJenna.


GravatarI like how Scarborough says he attacks the GOP just as much as he does the Democrats. He's a fair and balanced non-partisan type, you see?

He reminds me a lot of Bill O'Reilly, but without as much charisma or honesty.

The fact that MSNBC gives such a fourth-rate hack so much prominence really does say everything that needs to be said about that pathetic network.


GravatarThe mayor of Loonyville again indulges his delusions.


GravatarWe decided to drop the writing course and teach one of our own. Were we out to lunch or are writing teachers mostly as incompetent as their students?
Dude Abides -- 1:57 pm


there is no worse teacher of writing than a non-writer who remembers how she/he learned to be a shitty writer...

there is only one way to learn towrite competently...that is to write frequently and copiously. I don't know what department your's is, but unless it is one in which language is he featured element, none of your faculty is probably going to want to spend the time and energy necessary to help students become good writers...

correction makes the professor feel strong and p[woerful and knowledgeable, but really only reinforces the already unbalanced power relations in the classroom; and rewrite is futile when the student realizes that their efforts will basically be blown off...

just sayin...

i usta teach a pro-sem on the art of crafting an acceptable doc-level research paper. I taught it for a whole semester, during which students worked on papers which they were sssigned in other classes. it worked well, because the students were 1)working on a meaningful task, and 2) they got a lot of immediate and positive feedback...

not to say i wasn't critical (are you fucking kidding me? me? not critical? riiiiight)... i just tried to focus on the important stuff, like structure, and clarity, and organization, and impress upon folks the wonders of spell checker...

just sayin...


Gravatardave--thanks. I posted a link to the Lakoff diary at my blog.


Gravatar"...why am i not surprised that the preznit throws like a girl?"


Olaf, please. Save this kind of tripe for your locker room buds. I happen to be a girl, and I can throw damn well!


GravatarSteve S--how Scarborough even has a television slot is beyond me. Beyond his reprehensible politics, his system of false dichtomies obscures anything close to the truth of a matter.
Sallyh | Email | Homepage | 04.16.05 - 1:04 pm | #

Maybe that's the price he paid to avoid prosecution. Blackmail isn't always paid in $....


GravatarAn arsehole way of saying it, but we can be certain that Bush will do a great job of exploiting any future terror attacks for political gain.


GravatarI don't know who hired the mayor but this guy keeps him on the air now

mark.effron@msnbc.com


Gravatarbut wait you didn't put in the next paragraph of his column

His enemies are vanquished. Michael Moore and the New York Times editorial page are historically irrelevant. The Democratic Party is in disarray. George Soros is busy planning ways to waste millions of his fortune on Hillary's 2008 loss.

The terrorists may still be killing a handful of Iraqi civilians. But all they are doing is strengthening their enemies in the United States and all of Iraq.



terrorist = democrats

i think we should email msnbc and demand Joe appologize

viewerservices@msnbc.com


GravatarUhm, what terror attacks?


Gravatarhttp://oldamericancentury.org/ lo...i_klausutis.htm

n/t


GravatarDoes Jack Welch hire these creeps? I noticed last week he booked himself on a few of his own shows to pimp his new book. Must be nice...


GravatarNo matter how much Georgie puffs and struts, he'll never be the man his mother is.


GravatarI'm sure the Ake Family who father husband was kidnapped this week wishes he was more like the Italian PM


GravatarThe two people we have teaching our writing course are rhetoricians. They appreciate and have skill with language. Our students are now writing complete sentences and paragraphs that have a topic sentence and actual support for the point of view expressed. Why the writing faculty couldn't do this, I don't know. We are no longer embarassed by our students' writing skills and when they get to upper division courses, they can actually focus on explaining concepts and the research of interest. Some are now confident enough to submit, and present, their papers at undergrad research conferences.

I sometimes am asked to teach public speaking, though my research speciality is not in this area, and a combination of positive feedback and correction works the best, in my humble 17 years of experience. I don't feel smarter or more powerful when I correct mistakes, I feel helpful and a catalyst for learning. Maybe we are talking about different things we using the word "correction".


GravatarOlaf--love ya, but Bush doesn't throw like most of the post Title 9 girls I've seen throw lately.
Tell you the truth, those of us of a certain age have a hard time insulting something like that without reflex to something we wish we'd have gotten over.
Spastic! Faggot! Girl!
For that matter: Commie! Pinko! Nigger-lover! Godless liberal! Fascist pig!
Oh, well...


Gravatarsusan, i really didn't mean anything against girls. the problem is that when you insult someone you have to compare them to something they would not want to be compared to. i think shrub would be furious if people told him he throws like a girl, so i used that.


Gravatarsusan, i really didn't mean anything against girls. the problem is that when you insult someone you have to compare them to something they would not want to be compared to. i think shrub would be furious if people told him he throws like a girl, so i used that.
Olaf glad and big - 2:35 pm


Nice save. Better than running away like a girl.


Gravataryeah, i thought it was a pretty nice save myself. thanks little bro.


Gravatari'm not much of a thrower myself, btw.


GravatarYeah, this girl can't hit the broad side of barn with a baseball. I also can't bat worth a damn.

I was never very good at organized sports. I know many girls who were and as women they still are.

But I think George "throws like a girl", too.


GravatarI hadda laugh when I looked at the picture of Bush throwing the first pitch. The boy's face was all screwed up, all serious and shit, like he was really bringing the heat.

Reminded me of an 11 year old trying to look all bad when throwing the ball back to the big boys when the ball got away from them.


Gravatar"susan, i really didn't mean anything against girls. the problem is that when you insult someone you have to compare them to something they would not want to be compared to. i think shrub would be furious if people told him he throws like a girl, so i used that.
Olaf"

Olaf, I read these threads and consistently enjoy your comments. My comment sounded stronger than it should have.

I do wish, though, that we could find a better way of saying that a guy has a lousy throw than to compare him to a girl. Maybe the solution would be to get girls to learn to throw better. However, I don't know that this is too achievable.

And, you're right about Bush. He is just the kind of man that would be quite offended by such a comparison. Mostly because, I think, he has seious issues with his own masculinity.


GravatarI mean their families didn't even care that they died.....


GravatarWhat I want to know is if Bush is so tough on terror - why did his administration not seek the death peanlty on the Christian terrorist who bombed clinics (and I am not even talking about Rumsfeld who ignores clinics and bombs hospitals.)


GravatarAt which point did he transition from a greedy, manipulative predatory talk show host to a sycophant of the figurehead of an extreme and hysterical fascist sect of an otherwise gentile religion.

And is it possible to tell the difference?


Gravatar Mostly because, I think, he has seious issues with his own masculinity

susan - you hit the nail on the head. The Bush Boy has a major inferiority complex, which is evident in all his actions, from "bring it on" to never admitting a mistake, to taking pride in offing all the prisoners in TX and on and on.


Gravatar"susan - you hit the nail on the head. The Bush Boy has a major inferiority complex, which is evident in all his actions, from "bring it on" to never admitting a mistake, to taking pride in offing all the prisoners in TX and on and on."

Yup, and I think this makes him a VERY dangerous leader. I'm not a psychologist, but I think his lack of confidence (or security) in his own masculinity is the motivation for almost all of his decisions. His bullying is a way to prove to himself (and I would assume others) that he is a "REAL MAN." (His fondness for military/cowboy costumes is a dead giveaway to his self doubts about himself, I think.)

He scares the living daylights out of me!


GravatarDumya is just like the father in Mosquito Coast. He too was convinced of his own ideas and took his family to the jungles to prove he was right. He was wrong.

Moral of the story: Don't believe everything you think.


GravatarAnybody else take a class on ancient Egypt? Scarborough should be writing steles somewhere, praising the strength of Pharaoh Bushaten and his conquest of Babylon.
Goddamn. What an apparatchik.


GravatarYep - Dead Aide Scarborough is definitely patronizing Rush Limpdick's drug dealer.

What is with these people - that they actually see Bush as a hero of some kind when he is detroying this county and making us hated all over the world?

Bushtards are so dumb!


GravatarWith every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger.



No, Murkans grow stupider.

Do I sense the 2nd 9/11 coming?

Hey, it worked for the Repukes the FiRST time,

Rove is probably on the phone with Osama as I type this.


GravatarHow about, "Bush throws like a Guckert"?


GravatarClinton gets a chance to shine (or at least to show-off in public); he gains some much-needed respectability by associating with men of class and rectitude.
chris/tx


Is that why Big Bill got treated like a god in Italy while Preznit Asswipe got booed and hissed?

Freeper and Power Wussies - continuing to reside in Bizarro World.


GravatarBut I think George "throws like a girl", too.
Tena |


He falls off bikes and loses fights with pretzels.

He's not going to make people forget Nolan Ryan, that's for sure!


Gravatar"he will only be helped by further terror attacks and civilian murders."

So, in other words *celebrate terror, for it strengthens Dear Leader*! What's with "Homeland Security" anyway? It's standing in the way of Bush's GREATNESS! We should work hard to eliminate any notion of security checks at airports (for example), and rather, do everything we can to encourage terrorists to attack us, for Bush's sake! We have an army of experts who could study where the greatest damage could be done and provide that information (and materials!) to those who'd like to harm us, for truly, the more harm that is done to US, the greater Bush's power will be. The secretary killer just might be on to something!


GravatarDude Abides,

No, I do not think you were wrong to change. I was lucky/unfortunate enough to have one precious bitch for a professor in college. She taught the advanced writing class. She emphasized, more than anything else, thinking through your idea and aligning arguments with topics. She told us that it was necessary to write things several times. She taught us that unless we are interested in what we are doing: no one else will be either.

(I am off to finish the Willful Ignorance essay and one of the factors is in the presentation of ideas. Which is what, I guess, I am talking about.)

But Woody, I see little difference between fiction and non-fiction other than one might be true and the other is. The style question remain, as does the use of argument to present postions.


Gravatar"What do these terrorists take Bush for? An Italian PM?

He will not be blackmailed. He will not give in. In fact, he will only be helped by further terror attacks and civilian murders.

With every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger. "


Where were Dead Aide's hands while he was saying all this?

The floor must have been pretty sticky when he finished his little rant.


GravatarThis is the Republican version of Nietze's idea - "That which does not kill you makes you stronger". The R's turn it on it's head - "That which kills you makes George W Bush stronger." Scarborough seems to extend it even further and says that no matter how many people besides George Bush get hurt, George W Bush won't stop. I'll bet the insurgency is thinking that W must be one tough SOB to let other people suffer and die.


GravatarRemember how the little film at the Republican convention was all about Dubya's triumphant baseball-throwing at the World Series after 9/11?


GravatarI also enjoyed this nifty bit of reasoning from Joe's 14 April piece:

"A few days back I chronicled the left’s heated attacks on men and women of faith.

[snip]

"The Schiavo case and the death of Pope John Paul II only intensified the chattering class’s bigoted rhetoric.

Maybe I am missing something but it seems that all the invective is coming from the left."

Yes. So much invective...


Gravatar"I drive a chariot of iron(Judges 1:19) your god is impotent and powerless to stop me"



"In fact, he will only be helped by further terror attacks and civilian murders."

Yeah. Helped getting elected.

"With every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger."

Yesh. Stronger reelection hopes. Stronger dictatorship.



MYOB(Iron Charioteer)'
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GravatarI never watch MSNBC. I don't know anyone who does.

Does this Scarboroough guy get any ratings? I doubt it. My understanding is that whole network is at the bottom of the ratings pile, as far as cable news is concerned.

If nobody watches him, no one hears him.

Therefore, what he says is unimportant, and we do not hear his words...

---


GravatarI grew up in a world where we were told constatly we could be vaporized,
liqufied,and incinerated in twenty minutes by people who hated us and had the means to kill us.Now we are paralized in fear by someone maybe getting weapons? Give me a break.
the people promoting all this fear
should be ashamed of themselves,but they have no shame.This crap is beneath us as a people.

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself!" F.D.R.

Leaders Lead.
they don't need to
scare people into submision.

FORNICATE ARBUSTO!!!
and the cult of fear he thrives on.


GravatarI wonder if Scarborough ever wakes up in the night and says, "I'm just full of hot gas."

The cons so completely misread ppublic reaction to the Schiavo Affair, that left the choice of either backing away gracefully, or counter-attacking the cons chose the counter-attack in spite of the public consternation. This is a tactic I have seen the Rove types use more and more lately. And, no matter if Joe says something, or assrocket farts out something[maybe Ann Coulter's "appendage", either "real" or strap-on] the message is going to be about the same.

Joe peddling the talking points, and with Pubbie talking Points, all paths lead to Karl Rove, and by proxy, to Dubya.

So if anyone feels overwhealmed by the din and the blare from the radical right side of the blogosphere, remember, the message comes top down. There is nothing "citizen" about the right side of the blogs, especially the power blogs like assrocket, redstate, LGF and similar characters.


GravatarAhh. Congressman Joe.
When hurricane Ivan looked like it would hit the New Orleans area last year, I evacuated my elderly parent, myself and the pooch-Doxie to Meridian Miss. That was scary enough because of all the Bush crap everywhere. Being a Dem, I felt *really* out of place there and thought that thank God I didn't have a Kerry sticker on the vehicle!

After we got to our hotel, we saw that Ivan was going to head more toward Florida/Alabama. There was a young couple in the room next to my mom's. We met in the "dog-walking" area. They were from the FL panhandle.

After it became apparent that NOLA was okay but FL was going to get it I saw the young wife outside. I expressed sympathy for them and their area and mentioned something about seeing Scarborough on TV. Her response was (I believe) "Oh, we just love Joe. He said that he and the President were praying for us."

I bit my tongue sooo hard I thought it was bleeding! All I could say was "Tell Joe to make sure the government starts sending those checks. It will help a lot more with the rebuilding."


GravatarRight now there are a couple of young kids in the ninth grade somewhere in Bushworld with their whole life in front of them.But on Jan. 20,2009 one or two of them will be killed in Iraq as Bush leaves office and the whole mess he created to the next president to attempt to clean up!Ya! he's doing a great job on the war on terror,such a good job he needs to start a couple more to show the world that he God's gift to all of us!


GravatarWhere was "Dead Aide" Scarborough when he was making this profound statement?

The floor must've been pretty sticky when he finished!


Gravatar"The Schiavo case and the death of Pope John Paul II only intensified the chattering class’s bigoted rhetoric.

Maybe I am missing something but it seems that all the invective is coming from the left."


Here's some invective, Joe:

Fuck you and the rest of Bush's minions.

Fuck Bush with a white hot poker!


GravatarWith every new terror strike, George W. Bush only grows stronger.


Are you sure this wasn't written by Fafblog!?

George W. Bush is now invincible! He has allowed so many terror strikes on his watch that he is now 14 miles high and eats the molten iron core of Earth instead of breakfast cereal! Soon his head will pierce the heavens and meanace God herself!"


GravatarSo we should be... what?... happy?... to live in a permanent state of terrorism-induced hysteria because some half-wit teevee guy thinks it assists the Bush guy to "grow stronger"?

Weirdness. Pure weirdness.
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GravatarHey Joe - who killed the dead woman in your congressional office? Until you are willing to answer that question, STFU.


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