I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
morning!
Gee whiz, but we're up early today.
her eyes, you forgot the fuck bush.
Isn't that the rule for first on thread? First one has to say fuck bush.
Just sayin'.
new book out:
"how i made the u.s. a third world country in 7 easy years" by g.w. bush
his first book was "how i stole two elections" followed by "my media, and how it loves me"
Morning, and, as always, fuck bush sideways.
What fresh Hell is this?
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damn the cats! i let them type first and all they can come up with is "morning!"
Atrios is up early. He must have to figure out where the steam iron is supposed to go.
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fuck bush with frist!
how's that?
Fresh hell? As opposed to the stale, everyday hell I assume?
hello moonbats! Apparently, the pope has to lead a diverse flock, and it's hard, it's hard work.
Being less of a dick is, of course, not an option.
spork, you stole my joke.
(shaking fist)
Did I see here the other day, that someone was designing a moonbat shirt?
NYMary sez:
spork, you stole my joke.
(shaking fist)
My life's work is complete!
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Rained all night and the phone line is even slower than usual. Morning all. The hills are alive here in the Valley.
hereyes -- Yeah, like that moron could write a book.
I was wondering it Atrios has figured out the coffee crisis in his humble abode.
WOW, just WOW - our OWN morning thread! Morning Moonbats
hereyes -- Yeah, like that moron could write a book.
what was i thinking?
i guess i wasn't 
The hills are alive here in the Valley.
bill
Uh-oh . . .
Whats a book?
My life's work is complete!
And so early!
ann coulter was the ghost writer!
morning DWD!
Morning wood is too precious to use it to FUCK BUSH
Good morning, and fuck liberal America haters.
I was wondering it Atrios has figured out the coffee crisis in his humble abode.
Baźndog
He ironed it.
I don't remember who it was in the other thread, that mentioned Ron Silver lying in bed... stroking Ann Coulter's cock, but that visual has ruined my day.
And kudo's to her eyes for bringing up that gutter slut in fond reminder.
uh oh? What? The Valley? Or maybe horrible images of Julie Andrews spinning?
I have only used a thesarus in writing a couple of times. (When I was writing the young adult books - I had to find words that were simpler than the ones I was thinking of.) If I ghosted George's book: I would have to find a super duper thesaurus with kindergarten phrasing and such.
bill -- the hills . . . alive . . . Julie Andrews spinning . . .
Hey, Barndog, thanks for the visual! I see I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
now that we've dispensed with the fuck bushes and ann coulter slime etc.
can we get a resounding haloscan sucks.
Virginia sez:
bill -- the hills . . . alive . . . Julie Andrews spinning . . .
Hey, Barndog, thanks for the visual! I see I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
Try to imagine Ewan MacGregor's version instead.
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ate three of my comments and said i double posted.
whatever.
sorry i brought up ann coulter
i threw up a little in my mouth after i typed it...
MoDo:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/2.../23dowd.html?
hp
Just like Mr. Cheney, once the quintessentially deferential staff man with the Secret Service code name "Back Seat," the self-effacing Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger has clambered over the back seat to seize the wheel (or Commonweal). Mr. Cheney played the tough cop to W.'s boyish, genial pol, just as Cardinal Ratzinger played the tough cop to John Paul's gentle soul.
And just like the vice president, the new pope is a Jurassic archconservative who disdains the "if it feels good do it" culture and the revolutionary trends toward diversity and cultural openness since the 60's.
The two leaders are a match - absolutists who view the world in stark terms of good and evil, eager to prolong a patriarchal society that prohibits gay marriage and slices up pro-choice U.S. Democratic candidates.
The two, from rural, conservative parts of their countries, want to turn back the clock and exorcise New Age silliness. Mr. Cheney wants to dismantle the New Deal and go back to 1937. Pope Benedict XVI wants to dismantle Vatican II and go back to 1397. As a scholar, his specialty was "patristics," the study of the key thinkers in the first eight centuries of the church.
Thanks for Wells Fargo. I too am highly vulnerable to tune implant syndrome. Earwormitis? Is that what you called it?
I picked the wrong week to give up LSD.
Okay - some of the music people are here. Leading into Mike Malloy's second hour is a great horn riff. Someone said it was from the London Symphony plays Pink Floyd, but I bought the CD and it aint there. Anyone have an idea?
I am not a huuuuuuuuuuge music fan. But sometimes you hear something and it really moves you. Voi Che Sappette from Le Nozze di Figaro is one such tune.
And to get such an early morning thread. Mr. A must be travelling again.
Bon voyage.
later moonbats!
bill - yeah, earwormitis until someone comes up with something better. Sorry about WFW. Really.
Thought for the moment - in between first cup and the rest of the day- I really can understand how stupid Americans have become: most people are just struggling to keep it together. Buy I will never accept the news media's complicity in the reign of Bush. The top four commanders who APPROVED of torture did nothing wrong! That has to burn into the minds of anyone whose job it is to report the news. Hell, that is the biggest bunch of shit I have ever read. (Well, maybe not: These fools find new ways to abuse my logic circuits every damned day!) but it is still beyond the pale. If you believe that these children dreamed up Abu Graihib and the rest . . . You belong in Dumbfuckingstan with the rest of the idiots. (More coffeeeeeee)
Its been my pleasure. No worries, nothing a troll can't erase in an instant....I hope....Sorry about the Hills ..At least I didn't go to the How you solve a problem song...oops
DWD -- but Janice Karpinsky did get her wrist slapped -- she got a letter, for chrissake! -- so there were consequences.
BTW, did that little story get dumped in the Friday trash? What a coincidence!
We have no media anymore. It's perhaps the biggest reason We Are So Screwed.
Oh. My. God.
(via TBogg, the bastard)
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As a scholar, his specialty was "patristics," the study of the key thinkers in the first eight centuries of the church.
Thanks to the church, so little is known about the early centuries A.D. I read one book that posited that the peasants were not only illiterate, but quite possibly didn't have much vocabulary beyond grunts and a few simple words. Later I read Turtledove's book wherein he describes what it would be like if two evolutionary phases of mankind overlapped and shared the same space. That pretty much describes where I think we are now. Only in Turtledove's book, the more evolved life form ruled over the lower form. What happened?
I have to believe that this isn't the end regarding Abu Graihib. They will try to sweep it under the rug but it isn't going away. There's a whole world out there watching this. These people will face the music (sorry Virginia) sooner or later.
Virginia,
Yes, I did notice. But I notice a lot.
The problem is: What to do about it. Someone suggested a weekly magazine with the best of the blogs in it. I think that is a good idea, or even a community newspaper. Make it legitimate, but damning. There is so much talent in the blogs - people like Atrios, Kos, Wolcott, Billmon, Josh, Matt, John, and many others deserve a wider audience.
That Miss Poppy is nice and twisted. I like it.
spork -
tell me that is a sick parody. please.
Hey folks ...
NYMary ... Two things:
1) Did you see "End of the Century" (the documtneary about the Ramones)? It's really good. (Johnny is a dick.)
2) Asked Thers to tell you ... Not-Mister told me last night that he's going to London for the 30th anniversary of Motorhead show at the Hammersmith Odeon.
Res Ipsa,
I haven't seen it, but I'll look for it. The Ramones are becoming more central to my research than I thought they'd be.
London for Motorhead? Oh, dear. We had friends who flew to see the Pogues reunion in 2001--and are still paying it off.
Mary
Reading the overnights I am struck you are here frequently in the a.m., and Thers late night. Mr. QL and I frequently pass each other in the hall at 4 a.m. Me arising and him heading off to bed. And the little QLs are split as well. One is a cheerful early bird, while the other is unapproachable before noon.
Just finished reading the article, "Death of a Mountain," in this month's Harpers magazine.
It's the tale of the rape of Appalachia by the coal mining industry which levels mountains with huge machines to get at the coal seams, while they rain down toxic debris into the valleys and streams below.
There usesd to be laws against this sort of behavior but Bushboy, Mitch McConnell and Mitch's wife Elain Chou (Labor Sec.) have been paid off by the coal industry and so their criminal behavior is now "legal."
The damage it does to the thousands of inhabitants (human and animal) in the area is incalculable. Death rates have skyrocketed from cancer and other toxic related diseases, aesthetically beautiful forests, valleys and streams have been turned into savannahs where only grass will grow and the mountains themselves have disappeared into flat, empty plains you could land jumbo jets on.
Of course what is going on in Appalachia is just another bell tolling for all Americans that what matters in the Bushboy regime is: making money and only those who "make money" have access to the law - for a price, of course.
The corruption of Bushboy & his Gooper cohorts is despicable as it is depraved and somehow there seems to be no redress of these awful injustices!!!
NYMary ...
He's gone to Germany and Amsterdam to see them, too. I guess that's what you can do when you are a single guy making a decent living. There is this whole crew he does this stuff with.
What are you researching? Are you writing a book about this stuff? The movie is really good, but, surprisingly, sad. Poor Joey got his heart broken. And as I said, Johnny is a dick.
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The story put out by many in the Western press, that the guerrilla war was winding down after the successful elections, was never true. The guerrillas are unaffected by the elections, and work on their own timetable, in hopes of destabilizing Iraq and ultimately taking it over. Judging the intensity of the war by a week or a month's worth of statistics is poor methodology. The guerrilla war will go on for several years at least, and the political process has nothing to do with it.
That damned Juan Cole! How unAmerican to report that we are being lied to . . . can we clone him?
Just in case you didn't think the BFEE had its pawprint absolutely everywhere, here's a Newsday article I found via Bartcop:
Neil Bush, the president's controversial younger brother, six years ago joined the cardinal who this week became Pope Benedict XVI as a founding board member of a little known Swiss ecumenical foundation.
The charter members of the board were all well-known international religious figures, except for Bush and his close friend and business partner, Jamal Daniel, whose family has extensive holdings in the United States and Switzerland, public records show.
Pass the tinfoil
The rightwing fascists have a choke hold on America and will never let go willingly.
They cannot be persuaded that what they are doing is destructive to all of us (including them) in the long run, because they only care about the short run.
Whether it's making war in Iraq for Oil or raping America's Appalachian area for coal, they are only concerned with making money as fast as possible for the few and to hell with the consequences.
They pontificate about a "culture of life" but it's just a hypocritical cover for their neverending greed, which causes them to destroy poor people in America, Iraq or anywhere else there's a quick buck to be made.
Oh. My. God.
(via TBogg, the bastard)
At least it comes in a "brown" version.
Rudy -- it's awful -- just dreadful. I wonder if we'll be able to fix most of the damage that gets done in the next few years.
I wake up every morning to the sound of the surf. This morning the waves are gentle, the sun is shining softly through clouds, pelicans glide gracefully just inches over the crest of the swells . . . and I'm still pissed.
Rudy, so the choice is simple: Work to keep America together or work together to bring the beast down. What you want to do?
NYMary ... Johnny is a Repuke. Now that explains everything.
Neil Bush, the president's controversial younger brother, six years ago joined the cardinal who this week became Pope Benedict XVI as a founding board member of a little known Swiss ecumenical foundation.
The Bush family involved with the Inquisition? Hummmm--yeah, I can see it.
The fact that an obvious liar and ignominious failure like Bushboy could steal the election of 2000 and steal or win the election of 2004, given what should have been known about his war lies, his fiscal recklessness and his military cowardice says a lot about the perceptions of Bushboy vs the reality.
The reason Bushboy wasn't perceived to be the depraved moron and corrupt greedhead that he is, is because the corporate media refuses to disclose the truth, but instead presents every negative aspect of Bushboy as "controversial" instead of factual, when they show it at all.
And on the other side of that counterfeit coin, the corporate media is only too happy to portray the Bushboy rivals as negatively as the Gooper lies machine would like them to.
Until or unless this fascist grip on the mass media can be challenged or broken, we will continue to have a government built on lies and greed.
QL,
Funny how that used to bother me, that he didn't keep my hours. The only problem is that, with little kids, they tend to be awake more in my time than his, which I think is a bit unfair. But I like my mornings to myself (and like now, when Rosie's been up and nursed back to sleep, I'm on my own time).
Res,
Yeah, Johnny'a always been a dick. I saw DeeDee's last band "The Remains" in NYC in maybe 1997. They were terrible. I just always classified The Romones as punk, not pop, but I'm starting to see how they fit into my picture now.
The re-run of Morning Sedition I'm listening to has Marc reading a section of Larry Kramer's book about how bad thgings are for gay people in America.
Yesterday I was working with a group of kids in a music class, and we sang along with a video of folk songs from around the world. I remember learning the Australian round about "kookaburra sits in the old gum tree . . ." in grade school. The last line way, "gay your life must be." On the video we were watching the line had been changed to "happy you must be." So now we can't even utter the WORD "gay." I know this is a small and probably not very significant detail, but it makes me nuts.
I am not hopeful. GWPDA's dream place to live is still beckoning.
http://www.remax-pinchercreekab.....com/
Storey.htm
Hell, I am nearly ready to give up on America. We are just too stupid for words. I agree with the person (not sure who) who said we are one terrorist strike away from shredding the Constitution. Maybe I should change my name to NO HOPE.
Oxymoron wins!
That is what has become the irony of our age - the obviously stupid seem to achieve more and more power - is it because the little people see similarities in themseles to idiots in power? and that those who know better are labelled - as anti-whatever and their disease of ingorant intolerance spreads through the misery of day to day drudgery!
then there are those who supposedly should know better - bah! anyone who thinks that someone should know better is giving that person more slack than they need - knowing better means you become liberal and progressive...anything else and you are a conservative idiot..cut and dry!!!
DWD:
I've been working to bring the Bushboy regime down since before the 2000 election and will continue to do so.
I write all the major networks weekly and express my anger at their craven, cowardly, irresponsible behavior in genuflecting to the Bushboy regime.
I worked to elect Gore and Kerry by raising and giving money.
I express my disdain and contempt for Bushboy at every public or private function I attend.
If you have any other suggestions, I'm all ears....
Res,
I'm writing a history of power pop. (Forgot to answer that one.)
NYMary, children changed me from being a night person into an early morning person - particulary when I am working on something. Writing is an intensely personal activity that demands no interruptions. When the children were younger, they went to bed earlier. As they aged, I started going to bed earlier to find the solace to write. Does that make sense?
Rudy, I suppose that is all we can do but I am with WGG on this one: the time for being nice is nearly done. Somehow we have to do a Paul Revere thing here and wake up America to the fact that we are being abused.
(That article about Neal Bush and de Fuhrer Pope is sending shivers of fear up and down my spine. Hell, they cannot be that nefarious, can they?)
Someone once said that history is the story of the rise of mass murderers to the top positions of power.
With a few exceptions, I think the description is accurate.
The "flaw" that Shakespeare talked about in humanity is the need for unlimited power that consumes many people who eventually, because they are totally obsessed and unscrupulous about how they achieve it, come to power and then implement their megalomaniacal derangements on the rest of humanity.
The warlords of ancient Mesopotamia, Attila the Hun, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Bushboy are always with us and somehow always trample their way to the top.
NYMary, children changed me from being a night person into an early morning person -
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Mr. QL did the same. But when he was unemployed for the first time in 25 years, and the kids were gone, he reverted back to being a night owl within one week. Now he is back at work, and having a heck of time.
QL,
This semester, Thers has been promoted to a position where he more or less sets his own hours. That's played havoc with his schedule. But I don't generally get too annoyed until it's 1 or 2 pm and I've been alone with the kiddles all morning. Then I get testy.
I should note (after the ironing thread last night, especially), that we have the most equal distribution of labor of any couple I have ever met. We share everything--cooking, shopping, laundry--and I think Thers probably does marginally more childcare than I during the week. But he hates to iron, that's true.
Oh, Mrs DWD and I do the same. I have always done as much or more than she does. I still cook all of the meals and clean up as well as taking an equal role in everything else. It is the only rational way to do it: you know?
Thought for the day, "Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep, starts when you're always afraid, step out of line, the man comes and takes you away."
DWD,
Men in my family have always loved kids, but up until recently had little to do with them. My father watches Thers with our boy and just glows. Then one day he said, "I never had that with you kids," and I realized what traditional expectations and gender roles did to generations of men. He takes the boy out in the garden to putter, and "Papa" is one of Little Thers's great idols.
Has religion always been about the addiction to sex that I see in the Catholic Church now and the rest of the fundie churches? Somehow I missed it if it was. Now whenever I see a church all I can think of is the power boys with their collars and hats and gew gaws trying to control my sexuality and body. Scares the heck out of me.
Good morning all
Its April and I just saw snow flurries (in Chicago)!
What's going on?
cntodd, the end of the world?
Puerile thought for the day:
Syphillis Schafly
Fire and Ice
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
Robert Frost
Good morning all
Its April and I just saw snow flurries (in Chicago)!
What's going on?
i don't care what happens now and then
as long as you'll be my friend in the end....
Damn Haloscam. Ate my comment.
BIg Daddy, You just THINK it was Haloscan . . .
Ok, off to do something productive. Keep fighting thr good fight!
One of the oddest things about the rise of The Rat is how this man, now the world's leading moral judge and scold, is somehow completly exempt from moral scrutiny himself.
Hitler youth, "don't go there, everyone did it, it was him or THEM, .... Ending in, well, it was really inconvenient not to be because it made my tuition higher". It's only the Holochaust and the Nazis we're talking about, no big deal. And besides, he's shy and smart.
Then there is the paper record of essentially dismissing everyone in the world who isn't Catholic. "He was just doing his job." The line used up till now to explain away his rabid homophobia and misogyny.
We are talking about a man with a long life time of passing judgement on everyone else. Why in the world should anyone care what the old bigot has to say about anyone else if his own short comings are beyond consideration?
The answer is that we shouldn't. He is a figurehead on the corrupt rulers of an institution. There are many more worthy members of the Catholic religon but the government of the church is in the hands of a celebate, male junta. They run the thing like a dictatorship in direct opposition to the rulings of Vatican II. Turning the Vatican into a ruling junta was what JPII's pontificate was all about. If Catholics do not starve the corrupt junta their church is doomed.
I was going to say that I saw a few flurries last night (I also live near Chicago) and it was a bit freaky. Weather patterns are all shot to hell any more--but I'm certain the jury is out on whether we're the ones causing the problems.
Stay calm! All is well!
BIg Daddy, You just THINK it was Haloscan . . .
Big Brother is always watching . . ..
Big Daddy says, Stay calm! All is well!
Don't get out much, do you?
Two years ago on May 18th it snowed all day here.
Hey, here's some happy news:
BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 22 - Some leading Kurdish political figures are trying to stall the formation of a new Iraqi government in an effort to force out Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the Shiite chosen two weeks ago as prime minister, Iraqi and Western officials said.
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A spokesman for the Kurdish alliance denied Friday evening that there was any effort to unseat Dr. Jaafari. But Kurdish leaders have never been comfortable with religious figures like Dr. Jaafari, the leader of one of Iraq's best-known Shiite religious parties. Any successful campaign against him could derail the pact between the Shiite and Kurdish alliances that emerged two months ago, opening the possibility of a new alignment that would favor more secular figures like the departing prime minister, Ayad Allawi.
The American official said Friday that he expected that a new government would be formed within the next week with Dr. Jaafari as prime minister.
But several Iraqi political figures said they doubted that would happen. They cited strong opposition to Dr. Jaafari in the Kurdish alliance, which has agreed to form a coalition government with the Shiite majority. Under Iraq's transitional law, Mr. Jaafari will automatically lose his position if he does not name a cabinet by May 7, a month after his appointment.
"The Kurds are intent on delaying the government so that Jaafari will fall," said Sami al-Askari, a member of the Shiite alliance. A Western diplomat in Baghdad confirmed the effort to "filibuster" the negotiations.
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Dr. Jaafari has always had some opponents among the Shiites.
But it is mostly Kurds who have led the new effort to oust him from the prime minister's seat, Shiite officials say. Late last month, Massoud Barzani, the leader of one of the two major Kurdish parties, made clear that he was deeply opposed to having Dr. Jaafari as prime minister, said a Shiite official.
"We cannot trust this man," Mr. Barzani said of Dr. Jaafari, according to the Shiite official.
Democracy is on the march in Iraq. First elections: next, civil war.
Big Daddy says, Stay calm! All is well!
Don't get out much, do you?
Oh, I get out plenty. It's Chip Dillar who needs to stay away from the White House talking points. ^_^
QL, I love Voi Che Sapete too, when I need solace I play it on my piano and sing it. Also Il Mio Tesoro from Don Giovanni. And The Long and Winding Road and Let it Be and Twist and Shout. And that beautiful song Grace by the Irish Tenors.
That Mozart really knew how to write a song.
George W. Bush visit to the Netherlands, 7-8 May.
Demonstrations against this:
http://dearkitty.modblog.com/?sh...&
blog_id=569145
Meow.
Big Daddy Mars, Holy shit. A regional war througout the middle east by September? Can't wait to see how the whores turn that one into another Bush success story.
When Turkey goes in against the Kurds they'll say the Bennie the Rat was right about them all along.
And the "Cedar Revoloution", the Phalange, Hesbollah, the other factions. Isreal invades again?
But Condi will probably find something really accomplished to do and get a new hairdo.
Morning -
There's a video headlining CNN.com of police handcuffing a 5-yr-old. I can't get it to play. Is it me or are they trying to take the thing down?
Why do Repukes always piss and moan?
Can't they be shipped to an unmapped zone?
Where no human can hear,
They can cry in their beer,
And perhaps find a weasel to bone.
Good Morning, rational ones.
Today is the day I get to meet and have lunch with two Atriots, Prior Aelred and Sallyh.
I am very excited!
Big Daddy Mars, Holy shit. A regional war througout the middle east by September? Can't wait to see how the whores turn that one into another Bush success story.
The more the US pushes to get the Iraqi "government" in place, the more it looks like the house of puppets it really is. Will there be civil war? Hard to say. I wouldn't bet against it, though.
But Condi will probably find something really accomplished to do and get a new hairdo.
Other than wear some of the goddamnest looking outfits in the history of bad fashion, what has she accomplished?
Oh, and great boobie, Woot, and great limerick, Lime. I find both essential to starting my day appropriately.
EPtropy at 8:50a.m.--Eggsactly and those on the left who were wishin and a hopin that we could all just get along are out of luck. this little german pope as you know helped elect bush, the protestant fundies are having their "god is a republican" bash this weekend and so these fuckers need to be confronted and debased until they crawl back into their confessionals and dairy queens converted to nut ball churches and shut the fuck up. now how does this get done and still keep open lines to folks who have faith but respect seperation of church and state is another matter but we ain't gonna all get along...
That Mozart really knew how to write a song.
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Alas - I never had any music training, but you can bet your bippy that both my kids had piano lessons and were involved in musical theatre from the ages of 5 up. They both thank me for it.
Josh Marshall has an interesting post on how the Repubs are trying to game the media into dropping "nuclear option" for "constitutional option". He says they can call it what they want:
"But one side in a debate shouldn't be able to order the refs in the game to rewrite the lexicon just because people don't like what's happening."
The problem is that the media doesn't see itself as the ref in the game. They are simply scriveners, who, as John Cloud puts it, don't see themselves as fact checkers.
Since they're just going to treat everything as a "he said she said" story, the Dems should take advantage. Instead of the "nuclear option", call it the "go Cheney yourself option". It has the virtue of being literally true, since it requires him to rule, and it perfectly describes what the repubs are doing across the board. As an added treat, it allows Dems to ridicule them.
Remember, it wasn't sober policy analysis that allowed repubs to make "liberal" a dirty word. It was ridicule.
W is going to the Netherlands? Why on earth would he do that?
GD MRNNG!
MPCH BSH!
FCK BSH!
HV NC DY!
W is going to the Netherlands? Why on earth would he do that?
Good hash would be the only reason . . . from what my mother-in-law tells me they hate his ass over there.
An update. Ba'al reminds you that your burnt offerings should probably be ALLEGORICAL and that certain things should not be tried at home.
Trial moved for man accused of killing boy
The 6-year-old's body was found stuffed in an oven
Associated Press
BEAUMONT - The case of a man accused of killing a 6-year-old boy whose body was found in an oven is moving to San Antonio because of pretrial publicity.
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Pierott is accused in the April 2004 killing of Tre-Devin Odoms, whose body was found in an oven at his mother's house. Pierott had been dating the boy's mother.
According to a court document, Pierott believed the child was "draining the life" from his 2-year-old son, Jacory, and "he needed to kill Trey so that Jacory could breathe."
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Pierott was found not guilty by reason of insanity in 1998 for using a dumbbell to beat his disabled 25-year-old sister to death.
Other than wear some of the goddamnest looking outfits in the history of bad fashion, what has she accomplished?
Big Daddy Mar
I think it was the first time I was on Eschaton that they had a photo of that Clark woman who was a press sec. at the DOD. One of the captions provided by a reader was:
Look, mommy chose my shoes by I dressed myself today.
I knew this was a place to visit often.
Condi, the more you see of her in action, as opposed to inaction, the more it seems that her resume was padded. She is a dolt who has made a career on her ability to con and please with a piano recital or so thrown in.
She still has to explain her practice schedule in 2001. She was playing scales while accepting pay to be National Security Advisor. She couldn't have been doing both and the spectacular failure in September shows that she wasn't. I'll stop pointing this out when the evidence is uncovered and talked about. She was doodling at the piano while America was burining. It doesn't get more Neronic than that.
As things go ever more to hell you've got to wonder when the members of the oligarchy will realize that eventually the flames will consume them too. I know their greed and their hunger after the public assets of the United States are blinding to the dangers coming towards them but sooner or later they will have to see what they saw during WWII. In an expansionist fascist empire no one is safe from the consequences. Even more so with today's technology.
Headlines are "EARTH DAY CALLED OFF BY BUSH DUE TO BAD WEATHER".
Har.
Oh, and this news: Der Pope ist still ein Nazi. Danke.
Headlines are "EARTH DAY CALLED OFF BY BUSH DUE TO BAD WEATHER".
It's such a bitch when the Earth doesn't get the White House memo about them wanting it to be sunny and in the 70's for the Boy King's visit . . ..
Ba'al, there was almost the same case in Maine in the 80's. A couple baked the woman's young daughter to death because they were convinced that she was "the devil". A mixture of psychotic religon and understaffed and incompetent human services along with Nelson Rockefeller's brilliant cost savings mental health non-system. I've always wondered if they had listened to the broadcast preachers. All that satan talk leads to this kind of violence.
Good Mornin' Folks!
Coffee's perking, the cats are curled up on the futon. There's a cool falling, and it's Saturday.
It's being home with friends at times like this.
Barndog... My buddy Glenn, and Johnny Rigger send their best.
Tony B.
Some good news from Bobo's World:
He beat the city to the punch
BY JOE GERAGHTY
BRISTOL HERALD COURIER
Apr 23, 12:00 AM EDT
BRISTOL, Va. He beat the city to the punch.
Dan Bickley opened an adult novelty shop on State Street this week just steps from a residential neighborhood and within sight of a Christian bookstore.
Bickley began selling adult videos and sex toys at Exotic Illusions just days before the City Council was to consider an ordinance limiting where such businesses could operate...
BWA! HA! HA! HA! 
Headlines are "EARTH DAY CALLED OFF BY BUSH DUE TO BAD WEATHER".
and oddly enough, he was to speak in the most polluted national park in the country.
Good Stuff.... Maureen Dowd today.
Talking about Cheney and Papa Ratzi.
Part of it says..
"The two, from rural, conservative parts of their countries, want to turn back the clock and exorcise New Age silliness. Mr. Cheney wants to dismantle the New Deal and go back to 1937. Pope Benedict XVI wants to dismantle Vatican II and go back to 1397. As a scholar, his specialty was "patristics," the study of the key thinkers in the first eight centuries of the church.
They are both old hands at operating in secrecy and using the levers of power for ideological advantage. They want to enlist Catholics in the conservative cause, turning confession boxes into ballot boxes with the threat that a vote for a liberal Democrat could lead to eternal damnation."
Another Great Article.
EPT - the wealthy - at least those wealthy enough to be running the show - will set up their own ex-pat community somewhere with private security.
The very wealthy can always escape the consequences of their actions. Vast wealth is a great insulator.
It's the upper middle incomes who will lose it all when the chickens come home to roost, because they won't be able to afford the payments on the McMansion and the Hummer and for private security all at the same time they're paying for their own privatized working sanitary sewer and water system, etc. The rage of the have-nothings always falls most heavily among those with a little wealth, because they don't have the ability to protect it when the society falls apart.
Ironically, it's these people who have been voting for Bush in droves.
I love the fact that the Pope has email.
there are so many spiritual matters I need his assistance with.
So, so many
What is with the goddamned dog already?
ahem. excuse me. blogwhore.
Ba'al, I have mentioned this before but we had a case in Muskegon where a man - Barclay James Dobben - too his two sons on Thanksgiving Morning and incinerated them in the ladles at his place of employment. He was trying to SAVE them.
(Maybe our Lady of the Underpass in Chicago will speak to these fools and tell them to love one another and care for the less fortunate among us and love everyone? Prolly not, eh?)
As things go ever more to hell you've got to wonder when the members of the oligarchy will realize that eventually the flames will consume them too.
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EPTropy,
Perhaps, if the Dems take a long look at the economy and see it as the issue which will resonate with the 'just folks', 2006 could be when some britches get scorched.
From the Washington Post
aaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggh! they're discussing pharmacist ETHICS on NPR!
Just give the fucking pills I paid for, you sanctimonious bastard!
You're not my doctor! Your morals have no fucking place in the drugstore! Go be a goddamned priest if you're so fucking moral!
ahem. excuse me.
Jennifer, they'll try to shield themselves from the horrors of the Bush world but they won't be able to in the end. Once the courts are turned into another rubber stamp no one will be safe, even paying bribes will turn into a problem for the rich. Lots of them can be outbid.
And then there is the enviornment. As that disintegrates there won't be anywhere to hide. I'm looking forward to Walker's Point beind destroyed entirely the next time.
I've made the comparison before but look at the movie "The Damned" or "Seven Beauties". They show what the age of Bush has in store for everyone. It's not going to be pretty.
Watertiger...
I'm not sure it's a live dog...it may be stuffed.
jennifer -- i've been thinking along the same lines. when the shitstorm heading this way finally hits, those people are going to be the ones least able to withstand it.
goddamned pill dispensers are all pharmacists are.
get over yourselves.
grrrrrrrrrrrrr....
I'm not sure it's a live dog...it may be stuffed.
He carries it like he thinks he's Jerry Rice or someone.
Just once, I'd love to see someone streak out of the corner of the lens and tackle him at the knees.
That overpass BVM looks like she's wearing a burqa. The perfect symbol of womanhood in the age of Bush and The Rat.
When they say, handmaiden, theyreally do mean, "Get back to work, bitch,".
Damn, I coulda been first if I hadn't gone back to sleep literally a minute before Atrios posted.
A mixture of psychotic religon and understaffed and incompetent human services along with Nelson Rockefeller's brilliant cost savings mental health non-system.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It is worse than you think. NYS has 300 beds for the criminally insane. So when a schizofrenic loses it and whacks an innocent victim in the street he is put into prison genpop with scarcely any services at all. He is left there til it is time to release him, then he may get one of the beds and be kept off the streets or he will be released back out into the world.
And that law saying that the pharmacists can refuse to fill the prescription if there is someone else on duty who will do it is bullshit, too. When have you been to a drugstore lately and they had more than one licensed pharmacist on duty? Never, that I can recall.
New Wolcott up. Yay!
Damn! I wish I could see an end to this nightmare, but the hits just keep on coming.
The problem was that when Gandhi led his revoluiton or Martin Luther King, Jr used non-violence to promote social change: there was a press that reported the truth.
Without the press, children, I am afraid we are all doomed. It is like my kids in school. I teach in a nearly homogeneous African American school district and every year I have to explain what minority means. In their world, they are not the MINORITY. In out world, where our news arrives unfiltered and unexpurgated, we understand what is going on. But in the "real" world, people do not share this knowledge; therefore nothing will change and we are deluding ourselves if we believe, as my children do, that we are the majority.
(Time to go listen to Happy Talk or something.)
I picked the wrong week to give up LSD.
Baźndog
Hey, Barndog, thanks for the visual! I see I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
Virginia
The problem was that when Gandhi led his revoluiton or Martin Luther King, Jr used non-violence to promote social change: there was a press that reported the truth.
Nonviolent movements have worked in places where the press did not report the truth. Check out A Force More Powerful.
apropos of absolutely nothinig, I present this morning's "YOW!" blogwhore.
nothing.
going back to the kitchen for the second cup of java. i'm not irate enough yet.
"A regional war througout the middle east by September?"
Yes. And the winner of the mid east region will then take on the winner of the far east region. It all culminates in a Final Four World War over energy set for Kentucky's Rupp Arena next April. March Madness indeed!
Oh.. and Barndog-- if you are passing threough Gaylord... Stop in at the "Common Grounds" coffee Shop in the old downtown strip. Good Rainbows, and they know some EXCELLENT camping places.
Tony B.
goddamned pill dispensers are all pharmacists are.
get over yourselves.
grrrrrrrrrrrrr....
watertiger - 9:37 am
any pharmacist who refused to fill a lawful prescription from a recognized physician ought to have their fucking license pulled, and their fucking business shut the fuck DOWN...
jeezis atrophied testicles, i hate these people...
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From a Catholic site called traditioninaction.org
...The Holy Inquisition, therefore, acted correctly in condemning Galileo. That action was consistent with its mission of guarding the integrity of the Catholic Faith. It was justly defending the Catholic Theology and Philosophy attacked by Galileo Galilei.
In a speech delivered in Parma, Italy, March 15, 1990, even Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger endorsed the opinion of philosopher P. Feyerabend against Galileo. Ratzinger stated:
At the time of Galileo the Church remained much more faithful to reason than Galileo himself. The process against Galileo was reasonable and just (17).
The irony is, if there was more tax money available for infrastructure repair, there would be no Lady of the Underpass.
Science lacks the competence to interpret Sacred Scripture; if it were otherwise, we would end by denying all the revealed mysteries, which are far beyond the capacity of physical and experimental sciences to explain. To introduce scientific criticism in questions of Faith would be to reduce them to human stature, which is the same as denying them.
Joseph Ratzinger, Corriere della Sera, March 30, 1990; 30 Dias, January 1993, p. 34.
tbone - LOL! I love gallows humor in the morning. Or any other time...
WGG, Morning, Ralph
Hey, I have been trying to explain to the chillen that the time for talking and acquiescing is nearly done. I even invoked your name, but left your dime sized hole for you.
any pharmacist who refused to fill a lawful prescription from a recognized physician ought to have their fucking license pulled, and their fucking business shut the fuck DOWN...
Amen, WWG!
Can you see them pulling that crap if they were working in a hospital pharmacy? Not likely: their co-workers would soon grow tired of having to pull their weight.
Damned Pharisees!
Tierneys column is really annoying me. One study does not make the literature on a subject. The groups of obesity haters he talks about have absolutely nothing to do with the doctors and public health experts who have and do study obesity on health who not not simply walk around saying fat is bad. Its nuanced and everyone is different. But yes, if you want in general statements, in general most people could afford to treat their body better by doing a variety of things including better nutrition and exercise.
The reporting
on this has been pretty good, explaining the full story and emphasizing the bottom line
But even when the errors are corrected, Skinner said, "it's not going to change the fact that obesity is the second leading cause of preventable death."
Yet to Tierney its okay to disregard everything and keep on keepin on.
How fucking stupid is this guy? If he wants to write an op/ed on how disgusting it is that the emaciated look is considered the ideal for women in this country, please
.do so. Thats not what this is. Good job Tierney.
any pharmacist who refused to fill a lawful prescription from a recognized physician ought to have their fucking license pulled, and their fucking business shut the fuck DOWN...
Of course these same guys are also handing out Cialis and Viagra by the tub-full without a second thought. Don't they know that it was God who wanted Little Willie to go limp? Same thing with high blood pressure. It's God's Will that you stroke out because of shitty arteries, dude.
Time to get some law suits going. After all, God wouldn't have made you sick without a reason.
And Pope Benedict lectures reporters are maintaining "ethical standards" in their profession.
HAH!
Science lacks the competence to interpret Sacred Scripture; if it were otherwise, we would end by denying all the revealed mysteries, which are far beyond the capacity of physical and experimental sciences to explain.
In other words, the jury is out . . ..
This guy should have fun at the White House.
The problem was that when Gandhi led his revoluiton or Martin Luther King, Jr used non-violence to promote social change: there was a press that reported the truth.
I do wonder how much "truth" was reported by the press of the British Empire to Britons and the British in India.
And I remember billboards about MLK, showing him in a "Commie" school (paid for by the KKK), and it wasn't until the TV cameras showed the dogs and firehoses of "Bull" Connor that people even got an inkling of what MLK was up against. Even then, in his speech at Riverside Church against the War, his "allies" in the Press (such as WaPo) turned against him viciously, declaring he was "out of bounds" to "meddle" in national security matters (religion in politics must have its limits, after all!).
The idea, in any form, that it was "easier then" than it is "now," quite frankly (and no offense intended, but....)not to be countenanced.
We stand on the shoulders of giants. They faced struggles we have never known. Got to keep that before you if you want to prevail today.
watertiger - link for that picture/caption?
April 26, 2003, a time when John Paul II was very much alive.=====
April 26 A trusted ally of Pope John Paul II has been accused of sexually abusing boys a half-century ago at an elite seminary for the Catholic Church....
In fact, the pope [JPII] has continued to praise 82-year-old [Father Marcial] Maciel, a Mexico native, as an effective leader of Catholic youth, despite detailed allegations sent to the Vatican four years ago saying the man was also a long-time pedophile...
"He pushed my hand onto his penis. And I didn't know anything about masturbation," Juan Vaca, who was first abused when he was 11 years old, told ABCNEWS. "And he says, 'You don't know how to do it. Let me show you.' And he gets my penis himself and starts to masturbate me. I was in shock."
Now 65 years old and a psychology professor at Mercy College in Dobbs Ferry, N.Y., Vaca, the former superior of the Legion of Christ in Orange, Conn., says he was one of some 30 boys abused by Maciel during his studies at the Legion in Rome.
The accusers say Vatican-based Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, who heads the Vatican office to safeguard the faith and the morals of the church, quietly made the lawsuit go away and shelved it. There was no investigation and the accusers weren't asked a single question or asked for a statement.
He was appointed by the pope to investigate the entire sex abuse scandal in the church in recent days. But when approached by ABCNEWS in Rome last week with questions of allegations against Maciel, Ratzinger became visibly upset and actually slapped this reporter's hand.
"Come to me when the moment is given," Ratzinger told ABCNEWS, "not yet."
"Cardinal Ratzinger is sheltering Maciel, protecting him," said Berry, who expressed concerns that no response was being given to the allegations against the man charged with sex abuse. "These men knelt and kissed the ring of Cardinal Ratzinger when they filed the case in Rome. And a year-and-a-half later, he takes those accusations and aborts them, just stuffs them."
Today is the day I get to meet and have lunch with two Atriots, Prior Aelred and Sallyh.
I am very excited!
Diane -- 9:04 am
please convey to the padre my belated birthday greetings, and to Dr. (gal pal) Sal our best too...
cheers, cher
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RMJ - amen, bro.
"WASHINGTON -- A high-level Army investigation has cleared four of the most senior Army officers overseeing prison policies and operations in Iraq of responsibility for the abuses of prisoners there, congressional and administration officials said on Friday.
Barring the discovery of new evidence, the inquiry by the Army's inspector general and judge advocate general effectively closes the Army's book on whether the highest-ranking officers in Iraq during the Abu Ghraib prison scandal should be held accountable for command failings that past reviews have described."
Excellent. Now they can go back to the work of being all they can be.
tbone - yeah, I blogged about that lovely whitewash over at Suburban Guerrilla this AM and already got a nice comment from an apologist troll!
I guess it's not the high level Army officer's job to be aware of and responsible for the actions of those in his/her command, eh?
TKK:
Chicago Cubs' Nomar Garciaparra lies on the ground after hitting into a third-inning double play against the St. Louis Cardinals on Wednesday, April 20, 2005, in St. Louis. Garciaparra took a few steps toward first base before falling to the ground. He was carried off the field. The nature of Garciaparra's injury was not immediately clear. (AP Photo/Kyle Ericson)
I wish the sedar I was going to today was gonna be like this. Especially the philly blunt.
This is totally irrelevant and OT to anything being discussed. But while I was looking for something else, I stumbled across this really bizarre personal diary of Heinrich Mueller, an ex-Gestapo chief who became a CIA agent. Once I started reading this thing I got hooked and couldn't stop.I'm a history buffs anyway, but what's really twisted is the affair between Mueller's guard and his wife, which Mueller aids and abets for his own reasons.
Here's what he says about Nixon, in 1949:
I have compared Nixon with other politicians and he is a man to watch. Very shrewd, well read and determined. Certainly a man who plans to go forward. Penetrating analysis of situations coupled with intense ambition. Why is it that men from poor backgrounds such as Stalin, Hitler, and in all modesty, myself, are so intensely ambitious? Poverty or the fear of returning to it is quite an effective goad and Nixon comes from a poor family.
Here he's having a conversation with Truman about Allen Dulles:
He(Truman) said to me, I do not trust those sons-of-bitches at all. and he was very angry but tried not to show it. Then he said, I do not like either of the Dulles brothers. Its too bad this one wasnt in his house when it burned down. I knew nothing of this, I must confess, and I wondered if the President wanted Dulles dead but that was neither the time nor the place for that. Later, perhaps. Of course if one were to shoot Dulles, one would need armor-piercing bullets because his skull is so thick.
completely ot, but i have a question re fico scores. how is it possible that score can drop 10 pts when there are no late payments of anything and there hasn't been any monthly carryover of credit card balances as they are paid in full.
NTodd,
And here's some news from the continuing erosion of gains made in the 20th century.
"In a big win for United Airlines and a huge setback for its labor unions, Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. reached a settlement with the bankrupt carrier to terminate the company's employee pension plans.
The agreement between United and the federal agency that insures corporate pensions must still be approved by the U.S. Bankruptcy Court. PBGC had previously opposed the termination of the plans as too big a burden for an agency that last year had a $23.3 billion deficit.
Details of the settlement will be revealed in a court motion filed by Elk Grove Village-based United next week, according to PBGC spokesman Jeffrey Speicher. The move affects 121,500 active and retired employees."
Sean - Linky no worky, but I'm pretty sure whatever's there ain't kosher.
Anyone mind if I chime in now and again? It looks like you all know each other pretty well and I would not want to barge in without an invite. I follow this blog and John Cole pretty closely and like them both. If it helps, I am (happily) from a blue state (Minnesota).
tbone - workers' rights and shit are sooooo 20th Century...
I guess it's not the high level Army officer's job to be aware of and responsible for the actions of those in his/her command, eh?
That, or the message is: "It was approved. Can't be a violation if it was allowed."
Something tells me this isn't whitewash so much as an indication that this goes all the way up to the White House. And we know they take care of their own.
Congressional oversight? What's that?
Barney looks stuffed, I think Shrub dropped him and killed him weeks ago and thier covering it up. Nobody has seen Barney actually walking around have they?
Is everyone ready for JUST-US SUNDAY!?!
I mean Justice Sunday!
http://www.frc.org
Halffasthero - welcome aboard!
her eyes - teach the rook the secret handshake, would ya?
HHmmmm....try that again sedaclub
sean,
our seder usually winds up resembling an Eschaton discussion, only without so much swearing -- there are kids at the table.
Hagaddahs are for pussies.
(lightning bolt reducing watertiger to a little pile of ashes)
hasn't been any monthly carryover of credit card balances as they are paid in full.
bkny
You may have answered your own question, bkny. Credit companies don't like your kind. They don't make money from your kind.
I forgot to provide the link
Breaking news:
The pope isn't dead.
(rats)
Halffasthero,
interrupting is actually a requirement.
Once again in Boboland, aka Florida:
Kindergarden girl handcuffed because she threw a temper tantrum
NTodd,
Nice troll! I always read SG, and have been having fun with it this week. How's Susan's bad paw?
A do-it-yourself at home batptism gone wrong in Bobo's World? According to a Roanoke, VA paper, Petrosky's hubby is a pharmacist. Don't know if he's a Pill Pusher for Life or not. That would too ironic to contemplate.
Andrea Petrosky charged with capital murder in death of son
BY MATTHEW LAKIN
BRISTOL HERALD COURIER
Apr 22, 12:00 AM EDT
BRISTOL, Va. The mother charged with killing her 6-year-old son never met her husbands eyes Thursday as she returned to court.
The appearance came just after officers served her with a new charge of capital murder in the boys death. She bit her lip and looked like she might cry as the judge read the charge.
Andrea Jennings Petrosky, 38, kept her son Garrett home from kindergarten the morning of April 15 and choked him until he blacked out, prosecutors said.
The mother, who outweighed her son by about 80 pounds, carried him to the bathroom, put him in a full tub and held him underwater, according to a warrant.
She waited, then called 911 and told a dispatcher "she had just choked and drowned her son," according to the warrant.
Rescuers pulled Garrett from the tub and performed cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but he never woke up. He died Tuesday at Johnson City Medical Center in Tennessee after five days on life support.
Authorities jailed his mother on attempted capital murder and felony child abuse charges in the meantime.
"Its terrible anytime a child dies, but Ive never seen anything like this," said Deputy Commonwealths Attorney Janine Myatt. "Its really unheard of for this area."
Autopsy results suggested the boy might have been dead before he hit the water.
The injuries found "usually come from either strangling or smothering," said Dr. William Massello, assistant chief medical examiner. "It could mean somebody was strangling him while he was underwater."
Family and friends filled the courtroom Thursday as Petrosky shuffled in.
Her husband, Tim, watched in silence from the front row. Their teenage daughter Danielle sat nearby.
"The family and friends are gathered here today to show our love and express our support for Andrea and Tim and Danielle," said the Rev. Scott Price, senior pastor of Fellowship Chapel, the familys church. "Were praying for them and would just ask the Lord to lift them up."
Petrosky never looked at her family. She spent most of the hearing hunched over at the defense table, barely looking up.
Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court Judge Charles Lincoln asked whether she had hired a lawyer.
"No, sir," she said, almost in a whisper.
The judge said hed recommend a lawyer be appointed. Then he sent the mother back to jail without bond.
She walked out, still staring at the floor.
Until Petrosky finds a lawyer, its too soon to say when the case might go to trial, prosecutors said.
Meanwhile, questions lingered.
"Theres been kind of a ripple effect in the community," said the Rev. Brian Miller, minister of education and youth at First Baptist Church. "A lot of families are asking for help in dealing with that.
"Everybodys trying to make sense of it all. Everybodys kind of saying, Am I capable of this myself? "
The church, at 1 Virginia St., will hold a community discussion Tuesday at 6 p.m. to help residents confront those questions.
Tom Makres, a local pediatrician, will speak, along with Miller and the Rev. Dave Stancil, the churchs pastor.
"There just seems to be a need throughout the community to talk about this and bring peace from it all," Miller said.
Breaking news:
The pope isn't dead.
(rats)
that's (ratz)
sean - ROFLMAO!
tbone -- however, brig gen janet karpinski was recommended for reprimand.
i've always thought that she and that unit were deliberately selected for the abu ghraib duty. the most butch-looking female officer and a unit composed of small-town hicks were the perfect villains and therefore easy to dismiss as an aberration, as opposed to say, sop by the u.s. military.
And don't forget, Tom Delay says, "We set up the courts. We can unset the courts. We have the power of the purse,"
http://www.latimes.com/news/
nati...,1,799431.story
So Fuck You God hatin' Librls!
Things not going so well in Iraq. Should we start a Civil War watch?
Kurds' Leaders Said to Attempt to Block Shiite
By ROBERT F. WORTH and RICHARD A. OPPEL Jr.
BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 22 - Some leading Kurdish political figures are trying to stall the formation of a new Iraqi government in an effort to force out Ibrahim al-Jaafari, the Shiite chosen two weeks ago as prime minister, Iraqi and Western officials said.
Such an effort could further delay forming a government at a sensitive time. The past week has seen a sharp increase in insurgent violence, including the downing Thursday of a commercial helicopter that left 11 people dead. One of the victims was apparently executed by the attackers.
http://tinyurl.com/alrpd
RMJ,
Congressional oversight = Schiavo.
Now shush, you.
interrupting is actually a requirement.
Excuse me, but I was talking!
How's Susan's bad paw?
It certainly isn't going to heal if she keeps popping in to post! Busman's Holiday...geesh.
Sean:
It's yo Pesach!!!!!
omg, that is too funny.
Thank you, NTodd!
watertiger, I will promise to follow the protocol. (or lack thereof)
It certainly isn't going to heal if she keeps popping in to post! Busman's Holiday...geesh.
Yeah, but her South Park character is cool. I generated one, but disliked it.
Move along, Nothing to see here.
Four Top Officers Cleared by Army in Prison Abuses
By ERIC SCHMITT
Published: April 23, 2005
WASHINGTON, April 22 - A high-level Army investigation has cleared four of the five top Army officers overseeing prison policies and operations in Iraq of responsibility for the abuse of detainees there, Congressional and administration officials said Friday.
Among the officers was Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, who was the top commander in Iraq from June 2003 to July 2004. He was the highest-ranking officer to face allegations of leadership failure in connection with the scandal, but he was not accused of criminal misconduct.
http://tinyurl.com/d4ldd
My family's seders are the abridged version, because nobody really remembers how to do it right. The one uncle who is fluent in Hebrew can't lead, because the other one who has seniority won't let him. So there's a lot of flipping through the little book, interruptions and arguments about what comes next. It's pretty comical.
oh, damn. Next year in Jerusalem, muthafuckas.
sean, that is getting forwarded pronto.
It's yo Pesach!!!!!
"Next year in Jerusalem, motherfuckas!"
I'm worried the old man is going to laugh himself into the hospital when we show it to him later.
And don't forget, Tom Delay says, "We set up the courts. We can unset the courts. We have the power of the purse,"
Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
If it wasn't such a farce, it would be a Greek tragedy. DeLay is fruitier than a nut cake. He's gone completely around the bend. De-fund the judiciary on a selective basis? Yeah, that'll happen.
And while you're at it, get Cheney to back the nuclear option, since it's selling so well in the polls, and won't have any effect on the federal government.
These guys are geniuses. I'm just glad they're not on my side.
TKK - aren't you supposed to "find" the Afikommen? Oh, wait...I get it.
Happy Holidays, chosen ones!
How come Easter and Passover are so far apart this year? Aren't they usually right on top of each other?
Breaking news:
The pope isn't dead.
There was a great, one sentence letter to the editor in the London Guardian a couple weeks ago. It said "I would have been more interested in hearing about the Pope's wedding and Prince Charles' funeral".
Love that British humor.
RMJ,
Congressional oversight = Schiavo.
Now shush, you.
NYMary
See? This is how "regulars" are treated when they interrupt!
'course, it could be because I never got the secret handshake down, and I keep forgetting the password.... 
How come Easter and Passover are so far apart this year? Aren't they usually right on top of each other?
It's because God knew a Nazi would be elected Pope.
Breaking news:
The pope isn't dead.
(rats)
that's (ratz)
watertiger
He's still has a few weeks to go to match noted IRON MAN John Paul I.
TKK,
Those are some damned sharp edges. You might want to reconsider.
"We eat the mah-tzoh..." [/Woody Allen]
On CNN now it's Dolan's Unscripted. Looks like an SNL skit. The guy yelling all the time and the wife asking inane questions. Has this show been on the air long? WTF?
RMJ,
Sorry if I missed this: Did you see MoDo this morning on Cheney and Ratzinger? Curious what you thought.
RMJ, Password - TRUTH!
How come Easter and Passover are so far apart this year? Aren't they usually right on top of each other?
Christ was tired of being the bottom.
RMJ - please pay attention. It's hard enough to maintain this exclusive clique without having to remind you of the codewords all the time. Geesh.
He's still has a few weeks to go to match noted IRON MAN John Paul I.
And President Harrison (was it Harrison? I can't remember...or just don't care all that much)
Christ was tired of being the bottom.
Man, we're gonna have fun in hell.....
RMJ, I think of you as our own Neville Longbottom.
I like the Secret Service code name for Cheney, Back Seat. Yeah, he is an ass. Pretty much sums him up.
George Harrison was Pope?
Colbert I. King rips the Jeebofascists a new one today in the WaPo: George Harrison was Pope?
"While My Papal Sceptre Gently Weeps"
hold up. that doesn't sound right.
watertiger,
Yes, Harrison. Think of the Simpsons:
We are the mediocre presidents
You won't find out faces on dollars or on cents
I'm Taylor! I'm Tyler!
I'm Rutherford B. Hayes!
I'm William Henry Harrison;
I died in thirty days!
If it wasn't such a farce, it would be a Greek tragedy. DeLay is fruitier than a nut cake. He's gone completely around the bend. De-fund the judiciary on a selective basis? Yeah, that'll happen.
Amen. I want that petty little nutjob quoted on a daily basis in the press. Keep it up, Tommy boy. You scare America.
Shaw-Colbert King is usually good. Too bad the Post has him sequestered in the Saturday edition.
If your "papal sceptre" is weeping, you should see a doctor.
Man, we're gonna have fun in hell.....
and y'all wonder why I'm on Ring 8.
MoDo is the only person I know who plays the "good-cop, bad-cop" game all by herself.
Talk about multiple personality disorder!
I guess which med she took before writing a column determines its direction.
"While My Papal Sceptre Gently Weeps"
While My Miter Gently Weeps.
goddamned pill dispensers are all pharmacists are.
get over yourselves.
grrrrrrrrrrrrr....
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 9:37 am | #
That's not a very nice thing to say and rather uninformed and unintellegent...
Just saying.
I worked very hard to get my Pharm D, and to become a RPh.
Pretty broad brush you're painting pharmacists with.
Diane - yeah MoDo is like Gollum/Smeagol...
We're back to the crappy weather again, and on a weekend, naturally. I was hoping to enjoy my garden this weekend.
rphwa - I believe you are missing the point.
rphwa,
then maybe you can explain to me why pharmacists, whose job it is to dispense prescriptions that have been lawfully written, to impose their moral values and deny a legal prescription to a customer.
While My Miter Gently Weeps.
While My Auto-Da-Fes Gently Burn
Karin - your garden needs the rain!
Personally, I'm enjoying this weekend. Blogging in bed, windows open, listening to the falling rain and the birds chirping...now if only somebody would bring me coffee, this would be perfect.
NYMary,
MoDo is good today. The comparison of pope Ratzi to the Big Dick is amusing and dead on. "The new pope is a Jurassic archconservative who disdains the "if it feels good do it" culture and the trends toward diversity and cultural openness since the 60's."
Wingnuts never got over the farking 60's. Jeepers.
waiting....
worked very hard to get my Pharm D, and to become a RPh.
Pretty broad brush you're painting pharmacists with.
rphwa -- 10:29 am
Pharmacists basically have to be able to read labels on pill bottles and to count. Those are the two major capabilities required of the run of them. Where the fuck do you come off making 'ethical' judgments to keep medicines from patients? Sweet Fuckin Jeezis!! That's in-fucking-sane...
The professionalization of pharmacy serves two purposes: to regulate entry into the field, and to limit competition.
If a pharmacist has an 'ethical' problem filling a legal prescription from a licensed physician, they ought to find another job. Counting and reading labels are much desired skills among the folks who take inventories at Wal-Mart...
Just gimme my fucking drugs, and shut the fuck up...if you've got a problem with that, tell it to the Marines or the Chaplain...but don't gimme that 'ethics' shit, okay?
.
watertiger
I would never try and justify any decesion not to fill a legal prescription based on the phamacists own moral values.
Where I have a problem with what you said is. "goddamned pill dispensers are all pharmacists are."
That is just not true. I make important medical decisions for patients with every piece of free medical advice I give for OTC products and with EVERY prescirption I fill.
You have a problem with a few judgmental pharmacists imposing their moral values on other people and so do I. O'k
Just don't dismiss the entire profession.
The thing speaks for itself.
Hundreds flock to salt stain 'Virgin Mary'
Associated Press
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Police have patrolled the emergency turnoff area under the Kennedy Expressway since Monday as hundreds of people have walked down to see the image and the growing memorial of flowers and candles that surround it. Beside the image is an artist's rendering of the Virgin Mary embracing Pope John Paul II in a pose some see echoed in the stain.
"We believe it's a miracle," said Elbia Tello, 42. "We have faith, and we can see her face.
Mornin' fellow libertines.
Her eyes,
the book titles.......
Virginia,
I got beuatiful mornings and kitties galore (in fact the local shelter says that more than five qualifies us as a non commercial kennel or somesuch) and my gorge rises before my third opened eyed breath.
Attaturk,
at this point I'd club the shit out of the demon bastard with any morning wood I could get my hands on.
allrighty off to read the thread.
GWPDA,
re: EBAY, it's also the only time that I am a ruthless bastard. Otherwise I tend towards polite and respectful.
Re my last post about the stain on the wall.
Their is an idiomatic expression in French that means "to wank".
It translates literaly as "to make a map of France".
rphwa,
i understand that the job requires a knowledge of drug interactions, patient consultation, etc.
keep personal morality out of it.
I've got tickets for the Cubs today and its freeking 35 and rainy in Chicago today. I hope they call the game. It's just too freeking cold to go to the game today. Two weeks ago it was 78 degrees and sunny? Damn global warming.
It translates literaly as "to make a map of France".
I love the French. Even before their stance on the Iraq invasion.
That's true, NTodd. And Here's your coffee.
"to make a map of France"
Mine look more like Ohio...
Been reading the overnight thread. I can't believe Thers told people our story was too sordid to be blogged when I did,like two weeks ago....
Freak.
Karin - bless you! And now with Sam sitting on the sill watching the drops fall from the roof, my life is complete.
keep personal morality out of it.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 10:42 am | #
Agreed.
I'm not a troll, just a lurker.
I usually don't post here and probably won't again.
Thanks for the angry attacks.
The thing speaks for itself.
Hey! That's my line!
NYMary - could you remind me of the story, then? I could go for some sordididity this AM since I was too tired to watch Skinemax last night.
Mine look more like Ohio...
dude.
rphwa - lighten up. Really. Neither you nor your profession was attacked.
Yeah, but none of you peons know the DOUBLE SECRET password/handshake combo. Just think of all the reindeer games you're missing out on!!
Back later.
And President Harrison (was it Harrison? I can't remember...or just don't care all that much)
watertiger
Yes, William Henry Harrison died 30 days after delivering the longest inauguration address in history. It was cold and rainy, and was too damn stubborn to put on a damn hat!
...He reminds me, in that regard of our current President, though unlike Dear Leader Harrison was a man of accomplishment beforehand.
His grandson Benjamin on the other hand, bored the crap out of America for his entire term, accomplishing the significant task of making Grover Cleveland look exciting.
I "clear brush" to prove I'm a man,
But just when the cameras pan.
The hayseeds don't know
It's just a goddamn show.
I'm Cheetah, not fucking Tarzan.
RMJ, I think of you as our own Neville Longbottom.
NYMary
I'm so glad I had just enough time this busy Saturday morning to come back to see this....
so who's Hermione?
(((Riccola!))))
Mine look more like Ohio...
dude.
Sometimes Alaska, if it's been a while...
Watertiger,
Great Barney question. Just another odd thing Bush does I guess. Like endlessly clearing brush, choking on pretzels and filing taxes with a P.O. Box from Chicago as his home address. Bush is such a tool.
so who's Hermione?
her eyes?
rphwa,
The introduction of personal ethics into pharmacy work is crap. We here recognize that most pharmarcies are staffed by one trained pharmacist and usually a crew of counting lackeys, often very young. But even the most sophisticated training does not give one the right to make ethical decisions for others, especially in light of Ratzinger's recent pronouncement against Spain's civil servants. It's not a stretch to believe that a similar injunction for American Catholic pharmacists might be in the pipeline.
If you find this an untenable position, I'm sorry. We'll try to cope.
so who's Hermione?
more importantly, who's voldemort?
You can only know the double secret password/handshake combo if you attended double-naught spy training.
Sometimes Alaska, if it's been a while...
so long as it's not Florida, you'll be OK.
I dunno. I think of myself as Parvati or possibly Lavender. One of the shallow, pastel colored ones.
Watertiger the intrepid must be Hermoine.
who's voldemort?
OWWWW!!! Don't say that!
so who's Hermione?
Which Harry Potter character are you?
I was once interviewed to be the Dean of a College of Pharmacy at a large state university. I am not a pharmacist, but my PhD is in Pharmacology (from a department in a medical school), so I said, what the hell, why not check it out.
As part of the process, I spent a considerable amount of time examining what their research was, what the students were taught, I read White Papers by the American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy and other professional groups and accreditation agencies. I immersed myself. And wanted to retch.
They spend a lot of time doing research, whose outcome is predetermined, trying to justify the continuing value and existence of pharmacy as a profession. IN fact there are whole departments devoted to this garbage, and garbage it is. Therie are numerous journals devoted to publishing this drivel. (There is also, to be sure, some useful research in pharmaceutics, pharmacology, and medicinal chemistry).
To the pharmacist who sanctimoniously says "I make a clinical decision EVERY time I fill a prescription" teh rational response is no, you don't. You cannot possibly have sufficient clinical information about the patient 90% of the time to make a rational decision one way or the other.
Which Harry Potter character are you?
My Results:
#1 - Albus Dumbledore
#2 - Harry Potter
#3 - Hermione Granger!
I loved NYMary's story-if we're talking about the one about their first kiss. It gave me a little thrill.
JGMMFD
Just Give Me My Fucking Drugs...
how the fuck can a pharmacist who balks at dispensing birth-control medication, but blithely sells cartons of cigarettes talk about ethics?
i call bullshit...so fuckin sue me...
Syphillis Schafly
Fucking Brilliant!
Thats it, I'm jumping the thread.
RMJ, I think of you as our own Neville Longbottom.
NYMary
My daughter says I teach like Snape.
Always fancied myself more like Dumbledore.
But Neville is probably more accurate.
Right. Play nice. Gotta do whatever gets done 'round here on Saturday.
My thoughts on the distribution of prescriptions is that, if the pharmacy is privately owned then the owner does have the right to decide what to stock - like it or not. The pharmacist, as an employee, does not have the right to decide on his own what he will or will not distribute. He can choose to work there or not.
Personally, I dislike moralizing to others. Do your job and pray for the sinners at church.
NTodd,
It's here:
http://powerpop.blogspot.com/200...al-
history.html
I loved NYMary's story-if we're talking about the one about their first kiss. It gave me a little thrill.
How the hell did I miss that? Somebody dish!
CNN heading says "Emails hurt IQ more than pot."
I wonder wut hapens if yuo smok epot wile you rede email/
We can file THIS in the What Fresh Hell... bin.
A new BBC documentary exposes how the city of New York has been forcing HIV positive children under its supervision to be used as human guinea pigs in tests for experimental AIDS drug trials.
All of the children in the program were under the legal guidance of the city's child welfare department, the Administration for Children's Services. Most live in foster care or independent homes run on behalf of the local authorities and almost all the children are believed to be African-American or Latino
In the documentary, parents or guardians who refused to consent to the trials claim that children were removed by ACS and placed in foster families or children's homes. Then, acting over their objections, ACS authorized the drug trials. We called the Administration for Children's Services to respond to the allegations but they declined to join us on the program but did send us a written statement.
I wonder if we in the US will ever get to see this documentary.
NYMary - oh, yeah, I saw that story. Schweet!
I thought there was something more sordid, though...
I go to the pharmacist to pick up my 10 mg lipitor. Does the pharmacist know me? Did she ever even once ask, so what is your serum lipid profile? Have you tried dieting? Exercise? What is your family history? Are you experiencing any strange muscle aches or pains? Did she remind me that not only should I avoid grapefruit but that Seville oranges are off limits too? For that matter, did I even see a pharmacist or did I see a pharmacy technician?
The answer to all of these questions is no.
But I am sure this PharmD made a rational clinical decision when she filled my prescription.
Which Harry Potter character are you?
It would appear that I'm ALL of them. How the hell did THAT happen?
RPHWA,
Sorry, with the modern computer systems that virtually pharmacists use: your training is irrelevant. So, you actually do not have to be able to read - beyond typing in the information - and with automatic pill dispensers, you really do not even have to count.
Hell, as far as I am concerned we could eliminate R Phs as a group and not suffer an ill consequences.
You want to do something, try teaching. Get about a third of your salary. (If you are lucky and have worked for thirty years) Have everyone tell you that you suck at your job. Have the government impose incredibly stupid policies from top to bottom. Not get a fucking raise in three years. And still do a good job.
Nope, RPharmacists are about as useful as kotex dispenser in a monastery.
I just read a good part of the last thread last night and was greatly amused to see what looked like the reappearance of our favorite troll dishing out car repair advice and linking to another blog. There *certain posters* were lamenting the fact that comments here had gotten stale and complaining about the cliquishness of posters. Where have I heard that before?
And look what I see this morning - a *beleaguered pharmacist*.
Too funny. He may his name, but he can't change his spots.
Art - thanks for the tip. I guess I'm gonna go back to smoking the herb and ignoring my e-mails...
For anyone who hasn't seen it, Lincoln Chafee is the BuzzFlash Hypocrit of the Week.
They put it rather well.
http://www.gophypocrites.com/200...4/
hyp05017.html
Oh, good god. it turns out *I'm* Snape! Just because I'm not athletic and don't get PMS, apparently.
That's wrong Halffasthero. If they own the drugstore, they can choose what to carry over-the-counter, but they are obligated to fill prescriptions. As our NJ congressman said, the state licenses pharmacists for that purpose, not to second guess what a doctor prescribes for patients. If they try to play MD, they should get their license yanked.
It would appear that I'm ALL of them. How the hell did THAT happen?
No, it ranks them in order of your match.
Pie,
Oh, come on. You know the trolls are just lurkers who rarely ever post, but in this case....
Hahahahahahaha.
NYMary,
that was . . . beautiful.
thank you. I had missed that post.
i love you guys.
Oh. Then I'm either Hermione or Severus Snape (a draw).
NTodd,
Nothing's more sordid than adultery.
Well, Karin, I reserve the right to be wrong. I am not familiar with licensing, I was just shooting from the hip on what I thought. If that is the case, then I stand corrected. (humble pie, anyone?)
My order: Snape, Dumbledore, Lupin, Ginny Weasley.
Funny, when I saw the list, I just assumed Ginny Weasley would be the first one.
Good catch, pie! You're right of course. Forgive me.
The end of the story about my brief interview at the Pharmacy school was that I decided before the interview that there was no way I would take that position. So one of the responses about my plans for the future should I take the job is that I told them that I planned to shut down about half of it.
Needless to say, they did not offer me the gig.
ah, watertiger, don't get all mushy on us.
Told you you were Hermoine.
Nothing's more sordid than adultery.
I beg to differ.
Pedophilia, necrophilia, spousal abuse...
NYMary, that was a wonderful story and told exceedingly well.
(Although I was never really a Cobain fan, but that's all right.)
I thought there was something more sordid, though...
She forgot to say she left a sink full of dirty dishes.
NY Mary
And nothing is more adult than sordidness.
Republicanism, organized religion...
Which Harry Potter character are you?
Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter, Minerva McGonagall, are the top three, as WT says, I got em all toooo.
freaky deaky.......
Ba'al: Re-Professionalization and Pharmacy
Didja ever read any Ivan Illich?
Nothing's more sordid than adultery.
Well, there coulda been a three-way and some murder involved. And vampires. That woulda been more sordid.
I went back to Powerpop and saw all the comments about Finnegan's Wake. I've never tried to read it myself, drunk or sober, but I did get through over 100 pages of Ulysses while on LSD. Which is further than I got trying to read it straight.
Republicanism, organized religion...
I am almost certain that you meant *Cult*.
?????
You don't know me. Why all the hate?
Now I'm a troll?
Jeebus. I thought I was an angry librul. You people ARE angry.
If this is the way your treat people on your side then WE have a problem.
All I can say is demand more from your pharmacist.
CNN heading says "Emails hurt IQ more than pot."
Philly Blunts all around!
Forgive me.
Nothing to forgive.
i have to go out and buy Napoleon Dynamite on DVD.
they just played a clip on the radio. Still laughing.
visit the struggle. click on my homepage.
heehee.
Philly Blunts all around!
I have GOT to go that seder.
i have to go out and buy Napoleon Dynamite on DVD.
BEST_MOVIE_EVER!
Well, maybe not but damn funny.
IDIOT!
WGG
Never heard of him before now, but just did a quick google search and I am definitely going to check him out.
Sounds very interesting.
watertiger,
Yeah, but they're not sexy-sordid, just icky. Particularly when said adultery turns out to be one of those soulmate/find-a-life together kind of deals, which pisses the fundies off no end.
What's that quote about how there will never be a movie about an atheist who dies happily, in his own bed, at 100, surrounded by his loving wife and children?
Well, maybe not but damn funny.
"yesssssssssssssss!"
Happy blogging, everyone. I've got to get out of here before Atrios posts a new thread, or I won't get anything done today.
We're supposed to get between nine and fourteen inches of snow between now and tomorrow. 51 degrees on Tuesday.
FUCK!
All I can say is demand more from your pharmacist.
rphwa | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 11:09 am | #
I did. Then he seized by prescription and berated me about my private life in front of the other customers.
Apparently, it's a matter of "conscience."
So, yeah. Now I'm angry.
.
All I can say is demand more from your pharmacist.
rphwa -- 11:09 am
Demand what?
I don't want or need anything from you (pharmacists) other than my fucking medicines...
I can read my own prescription instructions...thanks...
Just dispense the drugs and shut the fuck up...it's not like you know anything about your customers other than what's in their records...
one time, mebbe, when there were local mom-and-pop drug stores, mebbe you knew the people...
folks lining up 10 deep at Costco get the feeling of attention, but it's all cosmetic...
shit, i cannot believe the fucking pretensions of you lot. It's like you're feeding on the respect bestowed (often stupidly) on medicos...
Just Gimme My Fucking Drugs, and shut the fuck up!
flew bidness class from NY to SFO and they gave us each DVD players and a selection of movies. Needless to say, I pulled out Napoleon Dynamite and cackled my head clean off for 2 hours.
one time, mebbe, when there were local mom-and-pop drug stores, mebbe you knew the people...
and don't get me started on the potential invasion of privacy in those situations...
I caught you a delicious bass.
Which Harry Potter character are you?
Today it would have to be Binns. More often Peeves. At least I hope the fascists think so.
If anyone liked Harry Potter they might like Inkheart by Cornial Funke. It's pretty good.
Morning all.
Gaw!
I caught you a delicious bass.
hahahahahahaha!
prwha
By the way, for the record, I am not saying you are a troll, and I bet I would agree with you about most things political. I am sure that what I said was offensive to you, because I know you had to work hard to get your degree. But I am not backing off my judgment of what I consider to be the value of significant portions of that you were taught, and the whole-scale MANDATED move to PharmD programs is absurd. I have some strong feelings about other university curricula as well.
rphwa - lighten up, Francis. We all get flamed now and again.
NTodd - you're wrong. rphwa's profession WAS attacked.
I had to stand up for academics the other day, and rphwa stood up for pharmacists who do their jobs and AREN'T taliban vigilantes.
Both of you, have a beer, and chill the fuck out.
rphwa - I want to see you here on a regular basis. If this shit keeps up, we may need your expertise.
.
Just Gimme My Fucking Drugs, and shut the fuck up!
Hahahahaha. How many times have I heard THAT.
All I can say is demand more from your pharmacist.
I do: I demand he shut the fuck up about my life.
one time, mebbe, when there were local mom-and-pop drug stores, mebbe you knew the people
Still do here in BFE...
RPHWA,
In the scheme of things the drug industry and its minions are near the top of the things that are wrong with our society, with a bullet. They constantly push pills to doctors, fight against health care for all people, and generally ignore people who cannot live without their services.
One of the saddest parts of my life is going to the pharmacy to pick up the month's medication for the family. I have excellent insurance and we have a small co-pay for drugs. When I stand in line and watch the old people nearly crying as they write out checks for hundreds of dollars for drugs so they can live -- it SICKENS me. Then I get my bag of prescriptions and pay ten dollars or so and the old people look at me with hatred . . . .
I am sorry, it is not you: it is the industry that raises the ire among people. I am certain you are an excellent pharmacist who cares for his people: but the industry is one that is corrput and amoral to the point of being some of the biggest money-sucking greedy bastards in our particular conclave of money-sucking evil and greedy bastards.
I wonder if we in the US will ever get to see this documentary.
Jesus Diane,
for a moment I was happy. Now the homocidal anger has shoved its way to the front of the line, thanks. 
p.s. not blaming you, but damn.
longitudinal syphillis study in tusceegee? same fucking playbook!
Two-by-Fours and Louisville Sluggers are too good for these folks.
Cat-O-Nines covered in feces? Might be about right.
Fuck!!!!
Well, there coulda been a three-way and some murder involved. And vampires. That woulda been more sordid.
And badgers. If badgers had been involved I don't think I could bear to even think about it.
NTodd - you're wrong. rphwa's profession WAS attacked.
A matter of opinion. I don't think the profession was attacked. Really.
CNN heading says "Emails hurt IQ more than pot."
Where to begin? CNN saying it. The whole phony IQ issue or that if you're stupid enough to read all the naughty spam you were stupid to begin with.
If e-mail makes you stupid what does Nancy Grace do?
Mel Kiper has the best TV hair. I can't wait until they have the NFL draft in Philly, I'm so there. Drinking 40's and booing.
A picture worth a thousand words.
"And badgers. If badgers had been involved I don't think I could bear to even think about it."
Don't forget hedgehogs. Definitely sordid.
And badgers. If badgers had been involved I don't think I could bear to even think about it.
Oh, don't get me started!
But I am not backing off my judgment of what I consider to be the value of significant portions of that you were taught, and the whole-scale MANDATED move to PharmD programs is absurd. I have some strong feelings about other university curricula as well.
Ba'al | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 11:18 am | #
Well, Ba'al, you may have greater technical knowledge than I. As a mere humanities academic, I'm not about to sound off on whether or not Rx-ers need higher ed.
What I've read about Rx interactions, especially now that Corps can get around or buy their way out of legal protections for the consumer, curls my fucking hair. I spend a lot of time with my pharmacist on those occasions where I need one (which, fortunately, hasn't been in a while).
I am, however, convinced that MBA's do not need to be on my campus.
.
And that should be Inkheart by Cornilia Funke, I believe.
Vote for Pedro!
My daughter and I were talking about DUMBya's ipod list last night.
I wondered why Dennis Leary's "Asshole" was on the list..."After all, it IS biographical."
Michelle said: "He'd have problems with the part where you have to spell it!"
"Loser" by Beck is one that comes into mind, too!
Figures Ba'al would know all about being sordid.
I am sorry, it is not you: it is the industry that raises the ire among people.
Dude: I don't hold the kid at the convenience store responsible for the evils of Miller Lite (while I'm busily buying anything else) and neither should you.
.
David E - should we call you Sybil from now on?
GWPDA,
You'll appreciate this on a couple of levels. Most of my primary source acquisition is from ebay because no one, not even the publishers themselves, has complete archives of the magazines I need.
I thought rphwa made some good points on pharmacists. I also agree, don't get angry at differences of opinion. It does no good to attack people on your own side. Neo-cons do that enough for everyone.
David E., great picture! Great story too. Sometimes the world can be a vey lovely place.
A picture worth a thousand words.
David Ehrenstein
===
Wow. I guess you can be pretty sure you're not related, eh?
Kent,
Helluva way to start the day, eh? I'm still shaking I'm so angry. I am sorry, though, that I started YOUR day so badly.
And I thought Tuskeegee, too.
Why does it take a British documentary to get this info on activities in the US?
Dude: I don't hold the kid at the convenience store responsible for the evils of Miller Lite (while I'm busily buying anything else) and neither should you.
The kid is just selling a product. Pharmacists are a bit more engaged in the system and add value, at least, if we are to believe rphwa. And the kid selling the beer doesn't tell you to stop drinking on Fridays.
NTodd
Sordidness is in the details, and Ba'al knows the details.
That's why you should worship Ba'al.
GMT sez: I am, however, convinced that MBA's do not need to be on my campus
I usta piss of the business faculty where I taught (on the rare occasions upon which I had any congress with them--i enjoyed the fuck out of it) by claiming I can provide you with five nostrums which capture the totality of the MBA curriculum in about five minutes:
1) Buy Cheap, Sell Dear.
2) Never Give A Sucker An Even Break
3) There's a Fool Born Every Minute
4) Location, Location, Location
5) Fuck Anybody For A Buck
that's the core curriculum. Add you own electives...
Did she remind me that not only should I avoid grapefruit but that Seville oranges are off limits too?
Ba'al? Please, Bi-God, howcome 'Seville' oranges? Grapefruit I've heard of in connexion, but why the specific variety of citrus?
David E, what a great story!
NTodd -
goddamned pill dispensers are all pharmacists are.
get over yourselves.
grrrrrrrrrrrrr....
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 9:37 am | #
It's pretty fucking unambiguous, and I would have been A FUCKING AFRICA-HOT SHITLOAD MORE UNCIVIL THAT HIM IF ANYONE HAD COME AFTER WHAT I'VE DEVOTED MY LIFE TO,
but then again, you know me.
The people who need to get over themselves are the fucking taliban vigilantes who're launching this coordinated attack on our women. They are not Rxists. That's the point. They're failing any professional standard of Rx by beating people over the head with their pathetic superstitions. Drive a wedge between them and this guy, don't drive them together. That's stupid.
How the hell does an ignorant creationist make it through an Rx program, anyhoo? Don't they have to pass biology? Organic chemistry?
.
New alliteration.
Burn a Blunt for Ba'al.
Mornin', Ralph.
Mornin' Sam.
Guten nacht, Ahnold. Wie geht es ihnen?
End Of Days
Nothing's more sordid than adultery.
What about waking up next to a butt-naked Liddy Dole, snoring like the gin-soaked possum she is, her legs akimbo, her vibrator still running, and , her auxiliary nipple an inch from your nose?
Too funny. He may his name, but he can't change his spots.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
You beat me to it. Same old, same old. "I'm not here to cast aspersions, but you all suck! I am wonderful. And now I will leave."
Too funny.
Burn a Blunt for Ba'al.
Ba'al
==
Way ahead of you, lord.
GWPDA
There are molecules in grapefruit that interfere with the metabolic enzymes that break down quite a few drugs, one of them being lipitor.
This can cause the blood levels of these drugs to go very very much higher than is safe if one takes the drug after eating grapefruit or its juice.
It turns out some of those same molecules are in Seville oranges.
They are not, so far as is known, present in many other varieties available in the US.
1) Buy Cheap, Sell Dear.
2) Never Give A Sucker An Even Break
3) There's a Fool Born Every Minute
4) Location, Location, Location
5) Fuck Anybody For A Buck
that's the core curriculum. Add you own electives...
WoodyGsGuitar/Happy Desperado | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 11:27 am | #
Yes, but they need practice. Dressing up in monkey suits despite the heat (teaches obedience), working together in little knots, developing new ways to cheat on exams (teaches deviance).
PHL prof I knew taught "Business Ethics" (don't laugh) here for a while. Found cheating systems to sophisticated it blew his mind.
Think of it as an Afghanistan for pasty libertarian sociopaths.
.
Okay, bebe rebozo, I stand corrected.
And no badgers or hedgehogs, either....
Not to keep picking at the scab, but I wanted to expand on a couple things about the Rx debate.
A snarky comment about what is, in essence, the primary role of a pharmacist shouldn't be taken as a condemnation of a profession any more than all the other shit people say here. Further, a learned POV such as Ba'al's shouldn't be taken as an attack on the profession, either--it's legitimate criticism.
Really, my pharmacist is fundamentally s'posed to give me pills prescribed by my MD. Value-added services such as technical consultation about drug interactions are great, but bringing that up is a red herring. I have a scrip in my hand, give me my pills. Don't enforce your morality on me, beyotch.
And that's the point. Our resident Rx might be the best in the business. Wonderful. The discussion isn't about you, but rather your colleagues who have taken it upon themselves to deny people access to medication.
So I reiterate and amplify my admonition to lighten the fuck up and get over yourself.
Gotta go brew ale now. No blunt.
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bebe,
good grief.
Ionce worked as an admin assistant to a CFO who told me a business degree was the most useless piece of paper ever printed. "Show me you can learn a thing," he used to say.
I'll second the light the fuck up motion, but telling someone that's all they do when they've had to do more is going to piss them off, even if you think they didn't need to do more than that in the first place.
Really, my pharmacist is fundamentally s'posed to give me pills prescribed by my MD. Value-added services such as technical consultation about drug interactions are great, but bringing that up is a red herring.
Furthermore, this can vary. How close is the MD to the specialty being treated? How long ago did they get out of med school? When's the last time the read up on the drug?
We have specialists for a reason.
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Ntodd
That's it in a nutshell.
The pharmaceutical industry is the way it is because it's run by MBAs who spend their entire lives sucking up every dollar they can for their masters.
There are a few people in it who want to help people. But that's an aside. If you go into the pharmaceutical industry, like any other, and you let it be known you're interested helping people, you get shot down. Sure, the people at the top make all kinds of noise about civic virtue as they live absolutely cut-throat lives.
OK,
NOW I'm going to go fucking brew 'n shit.
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Morning Freethinking Moonbats.
Troll bothering you this AM?
Do you really believe it's a pharmacist?
Heh.
Helluva way to start the day, eh? I'm still shaking I'm so angry. I am sorry, though, that I started YOUR day so badly.
No shit Diane,
and I don't blame you, the tipping point is always inevitable......
ps thanks for sharing.
David E's story has brought a bit of sunshine into the room.
Thanks David.
Dude: I don't hold the kid at the convenience store responsible for the evils of Miller Lite (while I'm busily buying anything else) and neither should you.
Once, while insomnaic, I went out to a 24 hour Safeway to get a 40 once bottle of Budweiser.
I slipped into my running shoes and made my way through the night air savoring the taste of watery beer.
Bravo, I thought, what magnificent person is respnosible for the fact that I can buy alcohol at 3 in the morning in a supermarket. I made my way through the gleaming aisles (a testement to the brilliance of American capitalism), picked out a couple of bottles of beer, a frozen pizza, and a roll of toilet paper.
While I was doing this I noticed that this pimply faced Safeway clerk, about 6'5" and about 120 pounds had been shadowing me the entire time. I took no note of it until I was 5 feet away from Nirvana (the checkout stand) when he swooped down on me and snatched my beer from my little red basket.
"Sorry sir," he said with obvious glee. "State Law prohibits the purchase of alcohol after 2AM".
I hold him responsible. That was truely evil.
We have specialists for a reason.
And we have pharms for a reason, and it isn't to judge patients morally.
Diane,
Do you have a link? I have a feeling I may have to wake the Blog up.
SWR-
The late-night 40oz is a sacred trust. Shame on them all.
I'll pour out a little bit next time in memoriam.
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Isn't today the first day of passover?
If so, in solidarity with my Jewish friends I think I will make a flourless chocolate cake.
Mmmmm...
The discussion isn't about you
Hmmmmm.
"Sorry sir," he said with obvious glee. "State Law prohibits the purchase of alcohol after 2AM".
The horror...
Why do pharmacies sell cigarettes?
Why do they sell bogus "homeopathic" remedies?
How come they don't sell sex toys?
people,
i speak in hyperbole all the time. (see?) when i hear a story first thing in the morning that pisses me off, I get angry and let it be known.
and all lawyers are blood-sucking vampires...
and all god-fearing folk are ignorant ostriches, looking to have someone else take responsibility for their actions.
SEE what I'm saying?
Jesus Aloyisius Christ.
What NTodd said.
Pop a tasty for Ba'al.
You know what would be great? If pharmacists would give us weed. And shrooms. Utopia...
The late-night 40oz is a sacred trust. Shame on them all.
I'll pour out a little bit next time in memoriam.
The moral of the whole story is that he could have very easily told me about it when I plucked if off the shelf.
But he really enjoyed following me around and then physically reaching into my basket and pulling them out.
Same impulse with these idiot pharmacists. Little men with a little power.
Diane--are you still here? I've got directions for lunch but what time?
The idea of a pharmacist as a trained specialist is left over from when they used a mortar and pestle to make tinctures, etc. And then a drunk Mr. Gower could really fuck things up if not for the young George Bailey. My guess is that there are amateurs boiling done sudafed who know more about mixing drugs than Mr. CVS phamacist.
How come they don't sell sex toys?
My pharmacy has 2 security cameras. One is back where the drugs are. The other points at the shelf full of Trojans and KY...
Morning, Tena.
The trolls will say they work in any profession they can if it allows them to profile us for their masters and derail us from really saying anything.
Still, it's a snowy morning on the green in Ann Arbor.
Fuck Bu$hCo and nuke Bolton before he nukes China.
Why do pharmacies sell cigarettes?
And, as mentioned upthread, Cialis, Viagra, and other limpdick remedies...
It turns out some of those same molecules are in Seville oranges.
Aha!
Now, I shall go scurry for my botany references and do a little tracking.... (While I am a Trained, Professional Historian, my mother dedicated me at birth to the Burpee Seed Company. Unable to realise her plans and dreams for me, I still try to keep my hand in, in an amateur sort of way.)
And Woody, mijo? You have access to the phinest pharmacist in all the land: Mr. Patel of Duran's Central Pharmacy. Mr. Patel may indeed hold certificates of some kind - but any pharmacist who works as closely with the local curanderas as he does, who is more than capable and willing to compound curatives the nature of which no corporation has ever imagined -and- whose lunchcounter has the finest hand made flour tortillas and green chile burros is a pharmacist to reverence....
David Ehrenstein
I read your story the other day. It is absolutely amazing. I hope to read more of your stuff as you get it out.
Mary - True story. Mr. Ql was due to get married in one week, and I was in a long term relationship with marriage on the horizon. We passed each other, going in opposite directions walking down the street, and started living together within a couple of weeks. Then marriage and kids. His ex had nothing nice to say about me.
I can think of so many worse things than finding a loving relationship. Like not filling legally dispensed presciptions. Or starting a war over oil. Or performing tests on defenseless children. The list could go on ad infinitum.
For some reason this is funny. Possibly because long long ago I once owned a Chrysler automobile.
Gunman cited for putting car out of its misery
Associated Press
LAUDERDALE-BY-THE-SEA, Fla. A man with car trouble is in trouble after shooting five rounds into the hood of his Chrysler "to put my car out of its misery."
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John McGivney, 64, shot his 1994 LeBaron with a .380-caliber semiautomatic, Broward County sheriff's deputies said.
When the property manager at his apartment complex asked what he was doing, McGivney said, "I'm putting my car out of its misery." He tucked his gun in a pocket and went back inside.
He was arrested Friday on a misdemeanor charge of discharging a firearm in public. He posted $100 bail Saturday.
McGivney said the car has been giving him trouble for years and had "outlived its usefulness." He called the shooting "dumb" and worries he will be evicted. But he doesn't regret it.
"I think every guy in the universe has wanted to do it," McGivney told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. "It was worth every damn minute in that jail."
Morning Freethinking Moonbats.
Troll bothering you this AM?
Do you really believe it's a pharmacist?
Heh.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 11:35 am | #
I am indeed a Registered Pharmacist in the State of Washington.
I'm not a troll. I live in the nice librul city of Olympia, WA. an oasis of free thinkers.
Jeebus. I haven't read what has been posted about what I said but I can only guess.
I promise I won't "troll" again.
I don't impose my beliefs on other people and I don't lie.
Now I'm off to practice my "irrelevant" profession.
To be fair, my pharmacist did tell me that it was cheaper for me to get Prozac in bottles of 60 pills at 20mg than to get 30 pills at 40mg. But mostly Rick's job is to give me drugs.
You know what would be great? If pharmacists would give us weed. And shrooms. Utopia...
sigh.
What about waking up next to a butt-naked Liddy Dole, snoring like the gin-soaked possum she is, her legs akimbo, her vibrator still running, and , her auxiliary nipple an inch from your nose?
Thanks Bebe, I'm going to be laughing about that visual all morning. Now I have to go get somthing to clean my screen.
I haven't read what has been posted about what I said but I can only guess.
Rather than guessing, you might want to dust off those reading skills that are so important to your profession.
Still, it's a snowy morning on the green in Ann Arbor.
Sucks.
Chicken comes back from dead
Associated Press
COLLBRAN, Colo. Western Colorado has a new chicken survival story, this one involving a man who claims he saved his fowl by giving it mouth-to-beak resuscitation.
Uegene Safken says one of the chickens in his young flock had gotten into a tub of water in the yard last week and appeared to have died.
Safken said he first swung the chicken by the feet to revive it. When that failed, he continued swinging and blowing into its beak.
"Then one eye opened. I thought it was an involuntary response," Safken said. The chicken's beak opened a little wider, and Safken started yelling at it: "You're too young to die!
"Every time I'd yell at him, he'd chirp," Safken said.
Mike the Headless Chicken survived a beheading in 1945 in Fruita, Colo. Afterward, Mike could go through the motions of pecking for food, and when he tried to crow, a gurgle came out. His owner put feed and water directly into Mike's gullet with an eyedropper.
Scientists examined the chicken and theorized Mike had enough of a brain stem left to live headless. He was a popular attraction until he choked to death on a corn kerne
i speak in hyperbole all the time.
I knew there was a reason I dug you.
Is there a top secret hyperbolic handshake that hagiographers of hyperbole use to make themselve known to each other?
kelley b. - Cold here in Dallas, too. Must be the same weather pattern.
It's clear, but it's only in the 40's. It's supposed to warm up some but not as warm as it has been.
WRT: pharmacists - the profession is what is at fault, for allowing this bullshit. There's only one aspect to the profession - filling/dispensing prescription that a doctor has ordered for his or her patients. That's all there is to it, the entire raison d'etre of pharmacists and pharmacies. They don't practice medicine - despite their exalted idea of themselves.
Any pharmacist who says he or she can't do what the job it should find another fucking job.
They work for us - not the other way around, goddamm it. It's a service industry.
Ba'al - Mike the Headless Chicken might offer insight into our pretzel-choking preznit...
To be fair, my pharmacist did tell me that it was cheaper for me to get Prozac in bottles of 60 pills at 20mg than to get 30 pills at 40mg. But mostly Rick's job is to give me drugs.
To be fair, my pharmacist hit on me the other day. I said no. Now I wonder what's in that little bottle.
You know what would be great? If pharmacists would give us weed. And shrooms. Utopia...
Sign here for your Orange Sunshine please. That'll be $10.
Anybody know how to channel Benjamin Harrison?
"Then one eye opened. I thought it was an involuntary response," Safken said. The chicken's beak opened a little wider, and Safken started yelling at it: "You're too young to die!
OMFG.
How come they don't sell sex toys?
+++++++++++++++++++++
Yeah. That's what I want to know.
You know what would be great? If pharmacists would give us weed. And shrooms. Utopia...
Quaaludes would be nice, too.
Hmmm...a little Chick Corea comes to mind...
Ba'al,
Isn't it true that dildoes were invented to help women get over hysterical illnesses? I know I've read that someplace. Back when psychoanalysis was a science.
pie - You never heard about Mike the Headless Chicken? He's a legend on the western slope. It's quite the story.
Is there a top secret hyperbolic handshake that hagiographers of hyperbole use to make themselve known to each other?
Overhand right. Only makes sense, no?
Ba'al - Mike the Headless Chicken might offer insight into our pretzel-choking preznit...
Send him corn kernels!!! Now!
Ba'al,
Isn't it true that dildoes were invented to help women get over hysterical illnesses? I know I've read that someplace. Back when psychoanalysis was a science
Freud did much to further the cause of women's rights.
Footloose
Light as a Feather?
"Then one eye opened. I thought it was an involuntary response," Safken said. The chicken's beak opened a little wider, and Safken started yelling at it: "You're too young to die!
The Terri Schiavo of the fowl world...
It's quite the story.
Must parallel our two-headed cow story.
My pharmacy has 2 security cameras. One is back where the drugs are. The other points at the shelf full of Trojans and KY...
There goes the blood pressure........Please, please, let an evangelical find itself at my door today. When I am through with it, it will be burnt-offering pleasing aromatics in service to ba'al.
NYMary - Don't know about dildos, but I do remember reading that doctors used to tell hysterical patients to take long rides on horseback.
I'm not a troll. I live in the nice librul city of Olympia, WA. an oasis of free thinkers.
Something tells me that if am Xtian Pharmacist refused to sell birth control to anybody in Olympia, you'd have 100 angry protesters in front of the store the next day.
Re the Headless Chicken - WHAT?!?
Re the Headless Chicken - WHAT?!?
I think Ba'al is back to masturbation euphamisms...
That toasts it!
This year, Passover and Easter are a month apart. A German Nazi becomes Pope. Jesse Helms said on the radio, 'Bolton and I will stand shoulder to shoulder in the final battle" meaning the Apocalyse and our budget deficit and our trade deficit both were $666 billion and we are whoring in Babylon.
So.....whoopee.
No, that's not what I meant to say. This is what results from over-worship of Ba'al in the morning. No, what I meant to say was:
Oh My God, That's Horrifying!!!!
pie - The people who owned Mike and beheaded him for that matter, were from a small town in western Colorado. When Mike managed to live after being beheaded, they thought they were going to get rich off of him. They took him on tour and he was a sensation. There's a statue to Mike in the town.
Let's say I'm a xtian that considers usury a sin. Let's further say that I work as a bank teller. And finally, let's say I refuse to conduct any transaction that involves interest on money.
The bank should be forced by the government to continue to employ me and pay my salary.
It's a matter on conscience.
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Tena - that is just fucked up.
DENVER -- The students in Vincent Pulciani's seventh-grade class were reciting the Pledge of Allegiance this week when they heard the voice over the intercom say something they'd never heard before, at least not during the Pledge.
Instead of "one nation, under God," the voice said, "one nation, under your belief system."
The bewildered students at Everitt Middle School in Wheat Ridge never even got to "indivisible," according to Vincent's mother, Christina Pulciani-Johnson.
"He came home and told me about it after school, and he said, 'I just stood there, Mom. I didn't even know what to do. We all just stood there and didn't even finish it,'" Mrs. Pulciani-Johnson said, quoting her son.
Margo Lucero, the eighth-grade guidance counselor at the school, substituted the phrase "under your belief system" as she led the recitation of the Pledge on Wednesday.
Margo Lucero deserves our eternal gratitude. You go girl.
mena - don't bogart the Ba'al offering...
I'll bet spork is modestly referring to these bits of scripture that refer directly to bankers and lawyers....
Mt 5:42 "Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away him who wants to borrow from you."
Lk 6:35 " lend, expecting nothing in return" Christian bankers: an oxymoron?
Mt 5:40 "And if anyone wants to sue you, and take your shirt, let him have your coat also"
Let's say I'm a xtian that considers usury a sin. Let's further say that I work as a bank teller. And finally, let's say I refuse to conduct any transaction that involves interest on money.
Or a Muslim who simply wants to wear a headscarf at work.
Isn't it true that dildoes were invented to help women get over hysterical illnesses? I know I've read that someplace. Back when psychoanalysis was a science.
Doctors used to "massage" female genitalia to reduce "nervousness." Also, I believe the first electric appliance after the toaster was a dildo. There's a book on all of this, Johns Hopkins Press I believe.
I just stood there, Mom. I didn't even know what to do. We all just stood there and didn't even finish it
Excellent! Our public schools is [sic] succeeding in creating unthinking automatons who are so brainwashed they can't figure out what to do when there's a slight deviation in the Holy Mantra they recite mindlessly in the morning...
NTodd - you mean the story of Mike the Headless Chicken is fucked up?
Well, it was the depression. This was Fruita, Colorado - out on the western plains where there is still agriculture.
They were making money off of Mike, along with a two headed calf - pie - but they left him on his own in a motel room and went to eat one night. Mike needed his neck cleared out regularly, to prevent his choking. While they were gone, he died. They were heartbroken.
Margo Lucero is the Heroine of the Day.
spinoza sez:
Doctors used to "massage" female genitalia to reduce "nervousness."
So that's what Glorious Leader meant by "practicing their love">!
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Margo Lucero deserves our eternal gratitude. You go girl.
pie | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 11:56 am | #
When I was in high-school, we could voluntarily stand for the flag salute. Nobody did. You would have gotten laughed at as an asskissing nerd.
Overhand right. Only makes sense, no?
Works for moi
Looks like another massive mood swing day in the lab.........
There's a statue to Mike in the town.
Tena, did his owners get rich? Pretty disgusting, but of course, look what the Schiavos did to their daughter.
You go girl.
Forgot the comma, namestealer.
"Excellent! Our public schools is [sic] succeeding in creating unthinking automatons who are so brainwashed they can't figure out what to do when there's a slight deviation in the Holy Mantra they recite mindlessly in the morning..."
And those of us in the education field run up against this every day. This is the least of it.
Yeah, found a review of the book:
Maines' highly original book discusses a forgotten chapter in late 19th- and early 20th-century medical history, when an assortment of women's maladies were commonly diagnosed by the male medical profession as "hysteria" or "pelvic hyperemia" -- congestion of the genitalia. Maines documents how doctors of that era routinely employed an assortment of vibrators to treat the so-called ailment, regularly performing "vulvular massage" on their female patients to "relieve tension." They performed the task in their offices as a standard medical procedure and considered it a chore. Initially they inherited the job because of 19th-century religious proscriptions against self-masturbation. "Most of them did it because they felt it was their duty," said Maines. "It wasn't sexual at all."
http://www.news.cornell.edu/
Chro...aines_book.html
"Then one eye opened. I thought it was an involuntary response," Safken said. The chicken's beak opened a little wider, and Safken started yelling at it: "You're too young to die!
No taste to a pullet.
Tena,
Does the statue of Mike depict him pre or post decapitation?
SWR--I never said the pledge in school. I got up and stood quietly, but when I was very young, my da had not taken citizenship yet (I was around 10 when that happened) and could never understand why anyone would pay homage to a piece of cloth. My parents thought it was very silly and told me I didn't have to do it.
No, the Mozart Sessions. I think I do have a copy of that Light as a Feather tho. I'll have to look now. It seems to me he is gonna be with the Detroit Symphony in some capacity soon.
"Excellent! Our public schools is [sic] succeeding in creating unthinking automatons who are so brainwashed they can't figure out what to do when there's a slight deviation in the Holy Mantra they recite mindlessly in the morning..."
Whenever I talk to someone in the immediate age group that's likely to get drafted (18-22) I'm astonished at the level of denial they all engage in.
"I can't be drafted because I'm an only child."
"I'm going to college. They won't draft me."
"There's not going to be a draft."
"I was born prematurely. They don't draft people who were premature."
Well, it was the depression. This was Fruita, Colorado - out on the western plains where there is still agriculture.
Ah, I see.
Ba'al,
Isn't it true that dildoes were invented to help women get over hysterical illnesses? I know I've read that someplace. Back when psychoanalysis was a science.
NYMary
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I have an copy of Sears catalog from the turn of the century (second to last), that advertises some terrifying-looking corset sorts of things that boast crazy-looking, built-in,electrical-wires-everywhere vibrators, For "Nervous Disorders". Great grams and gramps were a little kinkeee.
y'know, if Freud had just put down the goddamned coke spoon, he might not have felt compelled to project his own sexual inadequacies onto women.
Whoops, I did it again.
When is Benny Da Rat going to come out and condemn Viagra and all those other "male enhancement" drugs?
After all, it was his "sainted" predecessor, JP II, who came out against husbands "looking at their wives with lust."
Procreation not recreation, you know.
Sex isn't SUPPOSED to be FUN....sayeth the celibate.
pie - No, they didn't get rich. Mike didn't last that long, although I think he lasted about a year. They had joined a kind of traveling carnival and then when Mike died, due to their neglect, alas, they went home.
I don't know what happened to them after that.
Footloose,
I love Three Quartets
Must parallel our two-headed cow story.
Please to be sharing. I knew about the headless chicken, but not about the extra-cranial cow?
Smarter than Bush, I presume.
SWR--I never said the pledge in school. I got up and stood quietly, but when I was very young, my da had not taken citizenship yet (I was around 10 when that happened) and could never understand why anyone would pay homage to a piece of cloth.
I did it a few times just to feel like a rebel. Then people started comparing me to Niedermeyer from Animal House and started saluting me in the hallway.
So I guess I fit the stereotype as a persecuted conservative. There are nativity scenes in my hometown in front of city hall at Christmas though. They stick a six pointed star up there for balance but the town's so piss poor and dumbass all the Jews moved out a long time ago.
NTodd - you mean the story of Mike the Headless Chicken is fucked up?
Yeah. I mean, I understand the motivations and all, but still. As pie observed, it's as wack as the Schindlers!
I love Chick when he gets into his accoustic Bartok mode.
SWR--I hear the same things from my students. I've been assuring them in many ways that this is not the case. We've done problems relating to military enlistment, social security, sexual activity, and the like.
And they say you can't teach values with math
Whenever I talk to someone in the immediate age group that's likely to get drafted (18-22) I'm astonished at the level of denial they all engage in.
"I can't be drafted because I'm an only child."
"I'm going to college. They won't draft me."
"There's not going to be a draft."
"I was born prematurely. They don't draft people who were premature."
SWR |
"Both my parents and I voted for Bush! He won't draft people who voted for him!"
No, I am not bullshitting. I heard this on the bus the other day.
I just turned around and stared at the stupid little shit because I couldn't believe that MURKA has gotten THIS stupid!
I don't know what happened to them after that.
I heard they were hired in the 1940s by Prescott Bush to take care of one of his grandsons.
Anybody hear the rumor about a relative of Ted Kennedy wearing a wire for the last 3 years?
pie - It was an accident - they beheaded Mike to eat him, but when he didn't die as expected, they kept him around. He got to be such an attraction that that's how the whole thing got started.
Does the statue of Mike depict him pre or post decapitation?
Ba'al
That is just too funny.
"I have an copy of Sears catalog from the turn of the century (second to last), that advertises some terrifying-looking corset sorts of things that boast crazy-looking, built-in,electrical-wires-everywhere vibrators, For "Nervous Disorders". Great grams and gramps were a little kinkeee."
Oh yeah. And women could also go to the Drs. office where they had all manner of stimulating devices and get 'treatments' for hysteria, etc.
Smarter than Bush, I presume.
Two heads are better than one empty one.
The cow of which I speak (a marvel of taxidermy) made the rounds of county fairs and carnival side shows.
SWR--I was really, really quiet when I was young, and that worked to my advantage. No one wondered why i didn't speak, because I almost never did.
I first heard about Mike the Headless Chicken on the CBC program "As It Happens". Immediately went to the web and showed it to my 8th grade nephew. I think he did a paper on it, can't remember what class.
As I remember the story the man was trying to get the neck long because his mother in law liked the neck meat.
And that he finally choked to death on a piece of corn in his esophogus. The person I heard on the radio speculated that the rooster may have just thought he couldn't see anymore. Roosters are quite a bit stupider than hens usually are so it made sense to me.
Western Colorado has engendered all kinds of craziness. It's gets weird out there, because it's pretty isolated, even now. Imagine how it was in the 30's - Fruita was the back of beyond.
Political wire reports Carvell says the coiunty has turned against Bush and the Republicans but has not yet turned to the Democrats as the agents of change.
Let me county the ECONOMIC ways...
Protect Social Security!
National health plan to cut business costs. (More JOBS)
Oil conservation to cut Middle East dependence (Damn A-rabs)
Alternative fuels research (Damn Texas oil companies)
Tax credits for the domestic auto industry to build hybrid cars
(Hello Gm and UAW?)
To Pay for it all? Roll back Bush's tax giveaways on everyone earning over $250,000.
ECONOMIC MESSAGE!
ECONOMIC MESSAGE!
It's the ECONOMY STUPID...
Anybody hear the rumor about a relative of Ted Kennedy wearing a wire for the last 3 years?
Kennedy has a "nervous disorder"?
Margo Lucero, the eighth-grade guidance counselor at the school, substituted the phrase "under your belief system" as she led the recitation of the Pledge on Wednesday.
Margo Lucero deserves our eternal gratitude. You go girl.
pie
I agree Pie.
However, I'm leaning toward thinking that the phrasing should be...
one nation under foot"
There's a statue to Mike in the town.
OMG, Hi-freakin-larious.
I have a new graven image to worship.
spinoza - too bad they didn't finish the job (again).
"I just turned around and stared at the stupid little shit because I couldn't believe that MURKA has gotten THIS stupid!"
What do you do when you have graduates from high school who believe the value of pi = 3? Seriously, this is taught in a couple of local christofascist high schools.
The statue of Mike has a head. It's kind of a nice slightly expressionistic metal statue.
Maybe Ted's relative was just wearing one of those kinky wired corsets with the vibrator.
Maybe what the fuck difference does it make if it is a relative? I have a cousin who was an armed robber who died of AIDS after he got out of prison. Chimp's brother is Neil Bush, and I don't hold that particular sin against Neil Bush, only the stuff he did on his own.
I take it back - the statue is headless. I forgot.
LOL!
country, country...
the extra-cranial cow?
Smarter than Bush, I presume.
==
Even with one head tied behind its back.
Hey all!
Up thread Diane posted a link to a report from DemocracyNow regarding a BBC doc about how NYC's letting Glaxo use foster kids for HIV drug experiments. I just watched it. I see the report is from last year. Has anybody heard more about this?
Smarter than Bush, I presume.
Two heads are better than one empty one.
I prefer "Liddy Dole with a hand vibrator is worth twat in the Bush."
one nation under foot"
Attaturk
Followed, no doubt, with a hearty "submission accomplished."
What do you do when you have graduates from high school who believe the value of pi = 3? Seriously, this is taught in a couple of local christofascist high schools.
Makes geometry a whole lot easier....
SWR--I was really, really quiet when I was young, and that worked to my advantage. No one wondered why i didn't speak, because I almost never did.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 12:09 pm | #
There's a guy who works in the mailroom, about 22 or 23, and he listens to Rush all day.
Anyway, I was in a bad mood one day so I suggested politely to him that he might want to check out his options for serving in Iraq.
Yes. I shouldn't have said it. It was obnoxious but he came back and said "Rush told me you were going to say that. Why don't you become a human shield."
I am not making this up. Somehow Rush found out my name and identity and told people what I was going to say.
"I never said the pledge in school."
Never felt comfortable with that, either. It wasn't the under God part, or even knowing that it's not quite so dumb if you view the flag as a symbol. It's just that it seemd to me that if you mindlessly pledged you also couldn't or shouldn't criticize. It was like giving up part of your brain.
What do you do when you have graduates from high school who believe the value of pi = 3? Seriously, this is taught in a couple of local christofascist high schools.
If rounding down is that acceptable, then as between 0 and a trillion, our budget deficit is zero. Hey, we need another tax cut!
I quit saying the pledge when I was in high school. They didn't bother me about it.
see if this link to the statue of Mike works.
Makes geometry a whole lot easier....
First calculators, and now this. Oy.
Tena,
Thanks for the picture of my new god.
Beautiful.
I used to say something along the lines of
I spedge a degence to the flag.....
What do you do when you have graduates from high school who believe the value of pi = 3? Seriously, this is taught in a couple of local christofascist high schools.
sallyh-You're not one of those mantissa people are you?
I taught high school for a year, stood with my hand in the right place, never said a word. I just repeated to myself Johnson's maxim: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel...."
There's even a *Mike the Headless Chicken Festival*!
Tena
Too much LOL!!!!.
I used to say something along the lines of
I spedge a degence to the flag.....
1000 quatloos to any high-school kid who sneaks into school early and replaces all the Merken flags with skull and crossbones.
Clean sheets.
My God, I'm Hermione Grainger!
Guess I'd better start saving for that operation. Maybe I can ask mAnn Coulter who did hers -- and avoid that doctor like the plague.
Back in the days of the first pledge cases before SCOTUS, some schoolkids were required to perform a "Hitler-like salute" while reciting the pledge.
Check out the facts in the 2d paragraph of Barnette. I had a prof who passed around photos of the li'l tykes heiling the flag.
Interesting history there.
Looks like the new bigdog is already dissin' people. Oy.
New pope says thanks, but overlooks Hispanic faithful
I was right. Chick Corea will replace Herbie Hancock as the jazz creative director for next season.
new thread but the chicken story is funny.
pie - Told ya - Mike is still a object of veneration on the western slope.
There's a town in Gunnison County called Marble. Every single thing in the town - light posts, benches, sidewalks, everything is made of marble. It's the site of a marble quarry. I haven't been up there, but it's supposed to be worth seeing.
Western Colorado is practically the point of origin for nutty phenomena.
Just a drive-by--I'm headed to JazzFest. Anybody want some crawfish monica?
(Also, I have a new post up about the pharmacist/ birth control debate, if anyone's interested. Short version: Eckerd's has a very good policy, so support Eckerd's if you can. And don't for god's sake shop at walmart if you can help it. Not that I'm perfect about this or anything...)
"I never said the pledge in school."
Never felt comfortable with that, either. It wasn't the under God part, or even knowing that it's not quite so dumb if you view the flag as a symbol. It's just that it seemd to me that if you mindlessly pledged you also couldn't or shouldn't criticize. It was like giving up part of your brain.
jdw
I never bought that "liberty and justice for all" bullshit.
Plus, the "rah rah, in your face, we're better than everybody else" American brand of "patriotism" embarassed me...from a very early age.
I just never believed that "greatest nation in the world" crap.
Why? Because our military was better?
Viet Nam showed what a lie that was.
Hey, what I can say - I was born in 1952. I grew up during the 1960s.
12 years of Catholic school didn't keep me from questioning authority.
I'm just the type of person the Repukes and their theofascist supporters don't like.
I think, therefore I am dangerous.
Spinoza--let's just say I've contacted the principals of both high schools in question and challenged them on their teaching methodology. As a biostatistician, fractionation is significant in my world.
Besides, pleading allegiance to a piece of cloth?
My God, I'm Hermione Grainger!
Then I have a major crush on you, Toonscribe. And soon you'll be 18!
I taught high school for a year, stood with my hand in the right place, never said a word. I just repeated to myself Johnson's maxim: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel...."
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 12:17 pm | #
Before the last few years I probably would have told you just to get over yourself, that you were making a big deal out of nothing.
I've really changed my mind about it. Every pro-war, pro Patriot act, racist moron I know seems to have gotten that way via the repetition of a few simple things.
new book out:
"how i made the u.s. a third world country in 7 easy years" by g.w. bush
his first book was "how i stole two elections" followed by "my media, and how it loves me"
her eyes
Book? Bush?
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
That mo fo can't even READ above the sixth grade level.
Western Colorado is practically the point of origin for nutty phenomena.
Tena
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I'm starting to believe you. We always thought California took that prize, growing up there, but maybe the loose marbles all just rolled in from Colorado.
"Both my parents and I voted for Bush! He won't draft people who voted for him!"
No, I am not bullshitting. I heard this on the bus the other day.
I just turned around and stared at the stupid little shit because I couldn't believe that MURKA has gotten THIS stupid!
Sweet Jesus on a popsickle stick...
I am presently recovering from the concussion caused by the rebound of my dropping jaw.
Holy Mother of God, Homo Habilus would be pointing and laughing at this inferior intellect.
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Heh, kent said 'homo'.
NY Mary:
Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel, but religion is shooting up the chart.
I'm willing to bet that most of these right wing flag-waving assholes never heard of Dr. Johnson and they's probably say Karl Marx or some "commie" said "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel."
mena - I actually think the whole starts at the Continental Divide and just rolls westerward from there.
westerward? I like it, but it's not a word. Sorry.
Westward.
Just a drive-by--I'm headed to JazzFest. Anybody want some crawfish monica?
Love some. I've just made a nice pot of curried (crab), with a little sherry. Trade?
Oh the Westward Wind da da da, da da da, is a wayward wind...
But of course, GWPDA. How on earth would we manage it? Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could beam food to each other, ala Star Trek?
"I never bought that "liberty and justice for all" bullshit.
Plus, the "rah rah, in your face, we're better than everybody else" American brand of "patriotism" embarassed me...from a very early age."
Well said. Yes, had all those feelings, too....but it wasn't so much the hypocicy of 'with justice for all' etc. For me it came down in some ways to Nationalism, which scares the hell outta me because it seems to me that if you can get people to stop thinking critically you own their asses. It would have been enough to word it in a way to be thoughtful and grateful and loving, but it's way beyond that.
And I think there was also a connection to saying prayers in church, another institution I could never 'get'.
Kent:
I USED to laugh at this kind of stupidity.
Not now - now it scares me and angers me.
I've never suffered fools gladly, but now this country is FULL of them!
The really infuriating thing is MURKANS are PROUD that they're so stupid!
To be fair, my pharmacist hit on me the other day. I said no. Now I wonder what's in that little bottle.
watertiger - 11:48 am
having seen your foto, dahlin, i suspect you'd get hit on at stop-lights, crime scenes, and church services, too...
i know I would...
just sayin... 
jdw:
And let's not forget the national anthem, which is war, and rockets, etc and waxes lyrical about a piece of cloth!
Canada even has a prettier national anthem than us!
But of course, GWPDA. How on earth would we manage it? Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could beam food to each other, ala Star Trek?
TJ
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could beam Bush and all the fuckwits to another galaxy?
The planet Moronica in the Assholia galaxy.
Tena,
If you want to see somthing really Screwy you have to go to Colorado springs and check out Focus on the Family. I suport the movement to make western Colorado its own separate blue state. Screw the front range, screw Focus on the Family, and Screw Bush.
And soon you'll be 18!
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 12:22 pm | #
Only if I can make time flow backwards.
... And Marbel CO. is a very cool place not that anyone els needs to find it
To be fair, my pharmacist hit on me the other day. I said no. Now I wonder what's in that little bottle.
watertiger - 11:48 am
If he reaches for the Cialis and/or the Trojans
RUN LIKE HELL!
I like westerward too, Tena.
USED to laugh at this kind of stupidity.
Not now - now it scares me and angers me.
I've never suffered fools gladly, but now this country is FULL of them!
Great article by that Commie Rachel Corrie Worshipping Latte Sipping Frenchman Mark Ames at the NY Press.
Middle America's position on the estate tax reminds me of a line from the slave memoir of Lucius Holsey, who wrote about his master, "I felt as much interest in his well-being as I have felt since in my own." That is the best explanation for why Hamrick, and the 80 percent of Americans with him, are cheering. Their masters are, at long last, being treated like masters again.
TJ - oh. Well. Maybe a curryer service?
Thanks pie,
Even with one head tied behind its back.
mena, you cracked me up but good.
I am pretty sure that the Austrolopithicenes would be joining Habilus in the mocking laughter (with pointing) at the kids who think pi = 3.
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CNN heading says "Emails hurt IQ more than pot."
Philly Blunts all around!
Sean |
Being a Repugnican does more damage.
Then again, how high can your IQ be if you are a Repugnican?
I think, therefore I am dangerous.
"Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look....."
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Kent - *my work here is done*
Arsenic - Well, Marble isn't a secret. I haven't gone up there myself, but I know lots of people who have.
It's reasonably well known, and that's good - like a whole lot of the western slope, tourism supports it.
Terry C,
I find myself astonished on a daily basis by the stupidity. I have to admit to living a somewhat sheltered existance in this blue-college town-enclave in which I grew up and live.
I just don't run into that type of mocked by Austrolopithicene, mouthbreathing Moronitude™.
And only a few molecules of hydrocarbon vapor remain in my suffering fools kindly tank.
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mena,
yes it is.
onward to the next thread, always 15 minutes behind. (sigh)
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Coming to your television April 24th. They fought to bring you Jim Crow and "separate but equal." Now, they're fighting the filibuster for Jesus.
It's "Justice Sunday".
A Solid South/Family Research Council production.
rphwa: Welcome aboard. Hope to see you here often. While 99.99% of pharmacists do not interject their morality in dispensing prescriptions, its the small number that do that upset some people here. Soo, I suggest you take the criticisms as directed against the small number that abuse their role.
Obviously, pharmacists play an important role in our medical system, particularly, since doctors do not really delve into or maintain adequate training in prescriptions.|I look forward to your expertise when we discuss different facets of the medical system.
guess i am gonna have to make a sign that simply says "jesus christ was not a republican" and go down to the local church corner tomorrow a.m. and get my fair share of abuse...
I can't believe that when someone rightly defends their profession as being more than just counting out pills, that he/she is jumped on for being a troll. How about that great old liberal tradition about respecting others opinions, and while you're about it, their professions. He/she was not defending the pharmacists who don't want to dispense the pill, but his own hard-earned job. You guys lighten up a little. Good way to alienate someone who comes here for the political discourse. If all you academics were jumped on and had your profession belittled, you would defend yourself too. We're all in this together.
I just stumbled on this site. Interesting in a perverse way. Is everyone here insane?
Jerry - it depends on how you interpret "insane".
I just responded to a piece by Debbie Schlussel on Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1389212/
posts?page=1,50), so repugnant that Buzzflash provided the link, shamefully pissing on Marla Ruzicka's grave ("the Jane Fonda of our war on terror"), and the cro-mags dumped my comment, bannished my ability to post, but then proceded to gang up on me anyway. What a bunch chest-beating cowards.
Remember Marla Ruzicka.
Dave
Here's my flushed response:
God, the extent to which you Bush-toadies will sink is unbelievable. Here's a 28 year woman who risked her own life to aid innocent people ravaged by a war that turns out to be waged on false pretenses, and all you self-righteous keyboard-plunkers can do is gloat and make coarse jokes. Why, because she wanted to document the casualties that the so-called "culture of life," crying crocodile tears over a brain-dead Florida woman, refuse to even acknowledge? You sicken me, you hypocrites.
So, now its that Marla was demon-possessed--thanks Einstein. Hey, how about that pancake face jibe-duh huh huh. And you have the audacity to call others lemmings. Look in the mirror, suckers.
Dave
I really do like to think what I do as a profession is important.
In my spare time I'm a member of the Rachel Corrie Chapter of the Veterans for Peace.
Oh. My wife says I should tell eveyone I haven't boxed anyones ear in over a week.
Dave:
I swear, these freepers and powerwhiners are good for absolutely nothing.
They are a pack of fucking losers whose parents should have drowned them at birth.
wasn't Abramoff on the trip with him?
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