seventh or there-abouts
kent |
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04.23.05 - 1:42 pm | #
Now will Shays continue to show some independence by doing something about it?
Or will he return to the fold?
sdf |
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04.23.05 - 1:42 pm | #
Sorry, I just had to get there before mena.
As for Halliburtonwater, it doesn't trip off the tongue very well. How about Oilgate? Or Fuckingcorruptpiecesofshitwater?
NTodd |
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04.23.05 - 1:43 pm | #
make that seventh minus pi minus one.
in this case we dont mess with the pesky
.1415...........
kent |
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04.23.05 - 1:44 pm | #
And who are the US officials who called for Kofi Annan to resign because of corruption at the UN?
janeboatler |
04.23.05 - 1:45 pm | #
the beauty of no bid contracts. well, no one else was capable of performing this type of work, at least not in such incompetent and criminal fashion.
the worm |
04.23.05 - 1:45 pm | #
This is just part of the Republicans' plan to make public service pay as well as the private sector. Dick Cheney has a family to support! Think of his children!
George Johnston |
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04.23.05 - 1:45 pm | #
Certainly Dick Cheney will do prison time.
Slothrop |
04.23.05 - 1:46 pm | #
Asia farking times....when do we start screaming fire!!!!
sittenpretty |
04.23.05 - 1:46 pm | #
And who are the US officials who called for Kofi Annan to resign because of corruption at the UN?
They were calling for the wrong guy to resign. Of the "French" companies involved one was a subsidiary of GE the other a subsidiary of Halliburton.
George Johnston |
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04.23.05 - 1:47 pm | #
Halliburton rips us off, and the Bush administration pays them using Iraqi oil money.
Wasn't it Wolfowitz who promised the Iraqui operation would pay for itself> Guess he was right....
NYMary |
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04.23.05 - 1:47 pm | #
I don't get the 'water' thing, can someone explain?
Jim Randell |
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04.23.05 - 1:47 pm | #
I prefer a mess of scandals being referred to as a "Scandalabra".
Jay Carolina |
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04.23.05 - 1:49 pm | #
Corporations are people and have feelings tooo.
We should not bully Halliperson, we should pat it on the head with kid gloves.
kent |
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04.23.05 - 1:49 pm | #
Halliburton--The answer to all your disaster capitalism needs! You break it, we rebuild it--or not--at 10 times what you really outta pay to get the job done! Howzat for economic stimulus?
Fred Woolsey |
04.23.05 - 1:49 pm | #
I have a serious question for the lawyers around here.
Can these guys still be indicted in the next - Dem - administration or are there statute of limitation problems?
flory |
04.23.05 - 1:49 pm | #
Kent - can we at least send them to bed with no dinner?
flory |
04.23.05 - 1:51 pm | #
Yeah, the "-water" thing is over my head, too.
Is this some sassy new take on "-gate"?
Halliburtonwater being somehow fresher than Halliburtongate?
goldstone |
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04.23.05 - 1:51 pm | #
flory,
Crime is crime, regardless of administration. There may be a staute of limitations, but it'd be long enough to prosecute this malfeasance.
Oh, and thanks for calling me your idol last night! I'm touched--that was pretty funny.
NYMary |
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04.23.05 - 1:52 pm | #
Kind of adds new meaning to a line
in one of the Halliburton commercials
currently airing on the cable news
channels:
"We're doing stuff you'll never
hear about."
steve simels |
04.23.05 - 1:52 pm | #
Halliburton--The answer to all your disaster capitalism needs! You break it, we rebuild it--or not--at 10 times what you really outta pay to get the job done! Howzat for economic stimulus?
Fred Woolsey | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 1:49 pm | #
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Its better than that Fred, they will even break it fur ya
sittenpretty |
04.23.05 - 1:52 pm | #
And just why is anyone suprised that Haliburton is ripping off the American taxpayor. I am willing to bet that when the current maladministration is finally out of office, Haliburtn will have some pretty hefty gifts, that have already been negotiated, for Cheney and w.
QL in NY |
04.23.05 - 1:53 pm | #
Halliburton rips us off, and the Bush administration pays them using Iraqi oil money.
I'm confused, wasn't that the plan?
QuentinCompson |
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04.23.05 - 1:53 pm | #
Perhaps Judith Miller might exercise her marvelous reportorial skills on this story...
Aunt Deb |
04.23.05 - 1:53 pm | #
NYMary:
My e-mail inbox is still frozen --
what did you send me that I can
look forward to when it unfreezes?
steve simels |
04.23.05 - 1:53 pm | #
What will it finally take to shake the sleeping sheeple from somnolence? Dubya, Scottie and JimmyJeff in flagrante delicto doin' the "Menage a' Talon Tango" in the Ovule Orifice?
Fred Woolsey |
04.23.05 - 1:53 pm | #
Waxman has been on Bush and the Gang since day one. I don't understand why he doesn't have more of media presence. Can anyone explain it to me?
cs |
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04.23.05 - 1:55 pm | #
OT on blogger ethics.
If you had a small, specialized blog and found out there was a right-wing version of it, would you link to it? I just found one enough like mine to interest my readers, but put up by a wingnut neo-con in California. (Tirades against Che Guevara, paeans to Pope Benedict from a Jewish guys, etc. Apparently there really is an evil anti-NYMary.) It's not a great blog, but it's a development of his old, and less political, now defunct online 'zine. Advice? I'd hate to give this asshole hits.
NYMary |
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04.23.05 - 1:57 pm | #
Waxman has been on Bush and the Gang since day one. I don't understand why he doesn't have more of media presence. Can anyone explain it to me?
Get your piece of the action NOW!
Joe Citizen |
04.23.05 - 1:57 pm | #
Did Atrios post on the wrong thread? Glad I'm not alone.
Draco |
04.23.05 - 1:57 pm | #
Waxman has been on Bush and the Gang since day one. I don't understand why he doesn't have more of media presence. Can anyone explain it to me?
cs | Email | Homepage | 04.23.05 - 1:55 pm | #
surely you jest
sittenpretty |
04.23.05 - 1:57 pm | #
"We're doing stuff you'll never
hear about."
steve simels
Those ads are fucking creepy.
The tag line "I'm proud to work for Halliburton" eeek!
HoneyBearKelly |
04.23.05 - 1:58 pm | #
NYMary - First, we have no ethics, remember? Second, it's not a matter of ethics but your own personal comfort level and willingness to reach across the divide and find common ground with the other guys.
NTodd |
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04.23.05 - 1:58 pm | #
$212.3 million, that's a familiar sounding number.
To appropriate an additional $213,000,000 for Other Procurement, Army, for the procurement of Up-Armored High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (UAHMMWVs).
Thirty-eight POS Senators of the R persuasion voted against this, which also included funds for "medical support for tactical units", an item dear to my heart.
QuentinCompson |
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04.23.05 - 1:59 pm | #
That helecopter that got shot out of the sky? More jobs with obscene profits.
No bid contracts routinely require audits and the return of any profit over an agreed percentage.
Much better is a fixed price contract for an indeterminate scope of work. Bid low, get rich on change orders.
If someone wrote about home runs in a basketball game he could never get a job in sportswriting, yet people write about contracts all the time who don't know the first thing about the topic.
It is to laugh. And sob just a little, to think that Waxmustacheman stays in power with drek like this.
Walter E. Wallis |
04.23.05 - 1:59 pm | #
Huh...
"HOUSTON, Apr 22, 2005 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- Halliburton Co. swung to a first-quarter profit despite an 11 percent drop in revenue caused partly by a slowing of rebuilding work for the U.S. government in the Middle East. (say whaaaa?) The oilfield-services firm earned $365 million, or 72 cents per share in the January-March period, compared with a loss of $65 million, or 15 cents, a year earlier. The Houston-based company took a loss of $2 million from businesses it no longer owns, so earnings from continuing operations were $367 million compared to $76 million or 17 cents per share a year ago. Analysts had expected the company to earn 44 cents per share, according to a survey by Thomson Financial. Revenue fell to $4.94 billion from $5.52 billion a year ago. Halliburton pinned the decline on lower activity from government projects in the Middle East and completion of large offshore contracts."
Again... say whaaaaa? Now they're not getting Enough business in the ME?
Ripley |
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04.23.05 - 2:00 pm | #
Well, it's a scandal, sure. But does it deserve the same level of intense press scrutiny as, say, an incomprehensible land deal a long time ago in Arkansas which harmed nobody?
Have any Eschatonians seen the documentary called "The Yes Men," about these guys who go all over the place pretending to be WTO officials?
Res Ipsa Loquitor |
04.23.05 - 2:01 pm | #
NTod,
In fact, I'm a bit more worried about him finding me.....
NYMary |
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04.23.05 - 2:01 pm | #
There was an article about this in Vanity Fair last month that was very informative.
Walter I might not know much about contract law but I do know stealing when I read about it.
HoneyBearKelly |
04.23.05 - 2:03 pm | #
Thanks, Walter, for the enlightening comment. Next maybe you can explain the intricacies of using Butterfly Agates whilst playing tiddlywinks.
NTodd |
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04.23.05 - 2:04 pm | #
NYMary:
You and Mrs. Rorschach.
I take it you and Thers are recovered from all the wild celebrations of his natal day?
So I'm thinking the DOJ is going to have to pass out numbers to all the liberal lawyers volunteering to work on the prosecution team(s) in the next admin.
flory |
04.23.05 - 2:04 pm | #
...why he [Waxman} doesn't have more media presence.
C'mon now; you know why. The media are so cowed by the Bush administration, that Waxman doesn't stand a chance of getting in the spotlight. He is a hero in the House and just plugs away, whether he gets noticed or not. The rest of the Dem power structure should be giving him more support.
janeboatler |
04.23.05 - 2:04 pm | #
NYMary - what's the worst that can happen?
NTodd |
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04.23.05 - 2:05 pm | #
the only clause we need to know is NO BID...
says it all chumps
sittenpretty |
04.23.05 - 2:05 pm | #
Have any Eschatonians seen the documentary called "The Yes Men," about these guys who go all over the place pretending to be WTO officials?
Res Ipsa Loquitor
I did, wonderful little documentary. Amazing the prank they pulled with the business suit and the "third world burger"
Attaturk |
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04.23.05 - 2:06 pm | #
sittenpretty -- No, I'm serious. I don't have tv but I rarely read on blogs that he's appeared on news programs. Am I just missing them? Because, I go to a friend's house to watch if I knew Waxman was on.
cs |
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04.23.05 - 2:06 pm | #
NYMary - Eh - no need to link just because the asshole might have a couple of interesting things on the site.
Just my $.02.
Tena |
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04.23.05 - 2:07 pm | #
imho, you are not obligated to link to anyone. If you feel compelled to cite some of his work put a link in the post.
But I see no reason to blogroll the guy.
kent |
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04.23.05 - 2:10 pm | #
QC: Thirty-eight POS Senators of the R persuasion voted against this,
I do hope one of them was Dr. "I wanna be preznit" Frist?
Thers: an incomprehensible land deal a long time ago in Arkansas which harmed nobody?
Well, geez, nobody's claiming its an impeachable offense, are they?
flory |
04.23.05 - 2:11 pm | #
cs,sorry to report thatGeneral Electric,which owns NBC,MSNBC and many other media outlets makes huge profits in the defense industry..they are all in it together.WAR IS A RACKET(SMEDLEY BUTLER)please try to read it
sittenpretty |
04.23.05 - 2:12 pm | #
clean, though depressing, sheets.
I guess I might stay down here then.
kent |
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04.23.05 - 2:12 pm | #
Geez, Walter, the point is that they were gaming the audits.
By Griff Witte
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 23, 2005; Page E01
A controversial British firm responsible for a $293 million U.S. Army security contract in Iraq could not prove that its armed employees received proper weapons training or that it had vetted Iraqi employees to ensure they did not pose a threat, according to a government audit released yesterday.
In addition to criticizing Aegis Defence Services Ltd., the audit took aim at the Army's contracting office in Iraq for poor oversight. It reported that the official who was supposed to keep watch over Aegis's contract had not been trained in either monitoring contracts or security. The office was also severely short-staffed: At the time of the audit, 41 officials were administering 6,500 contracts and task orders.
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Going by the companies I have worked for, if we ran the government like a business, that audit staff would be at least tripled, the contractor would have trouble finding work due to industry scuttlebutt and their legal staff would be in a daily limo parade to the courthouse(s) for a lonnnng time.
QuentinCompson |
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04.23.05 - 2:12 pm | #
janeboatler -- Yes, I understand that. But doesn't the Dem House caucus have any say about who their media spokespeople are? I watch Sunday news shows at my mom's and have heard a lot of inarticulate Dems as guests. If Waxman is anywhere near as effective in person as he and his staff are in the letters and investigative texts they produce, I don't get why he's not being used. Isn't he pretty enough? Is his constituency suspect? What?
cs |
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04.23.05 - 2:12 pm | #
Could part of the reason the Bush regime is going after judges because of all the criminal activity going on? Not just the fundy-wingnut issues?
Let's see, there's the Halliburton rip off, Valerie Plame's outing, the ongoing Enron trials, the Texas grand jury investigating Tom Delay & pals, and that's just off the top of my head.
No courts, no convictions, no need for those pesky pardons.
I really hate being this cynical.
TheOtherWashington |
04.23.05 - 2:12 pm | #
Halliburton rips us off, and the Bush administration pays them using Iraqi oil money.
Wasn't that the Plan?
Why even feign surprise? I'm not in any way surprised that Cheney's former company is ripping the US taxpayer off, I knew they would when these clowns took office.
The real question is, why do so many other people refuse to see the obvious truth about this administration.
Monkey |
04.23.05 - 2:14 pm | #
NYMary -- Blog ethics. On rare occasions when I comment on a wingnutter blog, I usually provide the url as text instead of link along with a caveat emptor in prens.
cs |
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04.23.05 - 2:15 pm | #
"Hearts & Minds" my ass & rectum.
Hudson |
04.23.05 - 2:15 pm | #
"According to Representative Henry Waxman, the top Democrat on the House of Representatives sub-committee on government reform, "both the amount of Halliburton's overcharges and the extent of the information withheld from the auditors at the UN's International Advisory and Monitoring Board [IAMB] were much greater than previously known"."
I blame Kofi Annan.
Roger L. Simon |
04.23.05 - 2:16 pm | #
Thanks, flory. We're all recovered, and even mostly cleaned up. But Thers's functioning may well be impaired still: he's watching Pootie Tang.
NYMary |
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04.23.05 - 2:16 pm | #
Halliburton is so much like Cheney.
Halliburton is a colostomy bag connected to the gut of this war.
Handover Fist |
04.23.05 - 2:19 pm | #
Advice? I'd hate to give this asshole hits.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Boycott him as you would any other right wing organization. Walmart comes to mind.
QL in NY |
04.23.05 - 2:23 pm | #
Related topic: The "Big Dig", dug under a succession of REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS is being blamed on the Democrats. While there is enough blame to go around the news that Bechtel is a Democratic company is news to me.
Between Haliburton and Bechtel we may as well hand over all the money and be done with it.
EPTropy |
04.23.05 - 2:23 pm | #
Haven't read the thread yet. Probably this has been said.
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON AND WHY AREN'T THESE PEOPLE IN JAIL?
Now, I'll go back and read comments.
mer |
04.23.05 - 2:40 pm | #
A:
I think the suffix you need to append to your indictment of Halliburton is GATE...
Write that 100 times on the blackboard, Bart Simpson-style, until you learn...
Buzz Bomb |
04.23.05 - 3:07 pm | #
Halliburtonwater being somehow fresher than Halliburtongate?
No. Think BlackWATER and the current frenzy about the mercenaries putting in their side of the bargin.
Felix Deutsch |
04.23.05 - 3:14 pm | #
Why waste Bolton's "talents" policing the minor fraud a the UN when Bush could appoint him to clean up the Iraq fraud mess?
Oh, I guess his UN job would be to divert attention from Haliburton fraud.
dmbeaster |
04.23.05 - 3:15 pm | #
Waxman had better avoid flying in small private airplanes.
kelley b. |
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04.23.05 - 3:15 pm | #
"A report from the US State Department accuses the company of "poor performance" in its US$1.2 billion contract to repair Iraq's vital southern oilfields. "
Haliburton got the unbid contract because they were the only company that could do the job...as poorly as this.
Bluto W Bush |
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04.23.05 - 3:18 pm | #
...I don't get why he's not being used. Isn't he pretty enough?
cs, Waxman is not pretty on the outside, but he's beautiful on the inside. I don't know who get's to decide what Dem face goes before the camera, but I think Waxman may be a little too forthright even for the Dems. Shame on them, if that's the case.
janeboatler |
04.23.05 - 3:38 pm | #
Another great documentary recently released on DVD: The Corporation.
Looks into the close comparisons between corporate behavior and typical psychopathic behavior.
Just a thought |
04.23.05 - 3:53 pm | #
Walter I might not know much about contract law but I do know stealing when I read about it.
HoneyBearKelly
trying to get rich on "extras" to hard bid contracts is a fools game.
It's icing at best.I've watched alot
of companies go broke playing the "extras" game.
On the other hand having one of your
corporate officers on the inside
feeding you open-ended no-bid
contracts in a wild west, no government,oversight free environment,now that's priceless!!
flint |
04.23.05 - 4:43 pm | #
Naomi Klein has an article about "Disaster Capitalism" in the new Nation.
bob h |
04.23.05 - 4:56 pm | #
Where did anyone ever get the idea that KBR actually wanted to get anything complete in Iraq, and screw up the gravy train?
Tim |
04.23.05 - 4:57 pm | #
This is Dickhead Cheney once again, scooting and skating with other peoples money and other peoples oil.
The man is a criminal puke who is loved and adored by all the other criminal pukes in the country.
Will he ever do time? Hell no, this wont even make the papers.
paul |
04.23.05 - 5:45 pm | #
OT, but my "Frist Envy" troll has come back to haunt me at my place. I'm so loved!
On topic: uh...WTF was the topic again? The Kinks?
NTodd |
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04.23.05 - 5:57 pm | #
Defense Department audits showing additional overcharges totaling $212 million were concealed from United Nations monitors by the administration of President George W Bush.
Holy smokies, Batman, how do I get a contract like Halliburton got.
oldwhitelady |
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04.23.05 - 6:31 pm | #
Hello??? Is this or is this not worse than getting a blow job? I mean really, where the hell do we draw the line for these goddamned criminals in Washington?
Personally, I'll not be satisfied until Bush, Cheney, Rice, et al are doing long stretches in prison, or better yet, maybe we can turn Guantanamo Bay into a gulag for criminals of this stature, kind of like what Alcatraz was, but for government officials found to mislead and royally rip off the public for their own means. Hell, the infrastructure is already there...
Pollen Boy |
04.23.05 - 6:53 pm | #
Is this or is this not worse than getting a blow job?
Clearly it's not as bad as a BJ. Have you not been paying attention?
NTodd |
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04.23.05 - 7:26 pm | #
1. "Could part of the reason the Bush regime is going after judges because of all the criminal activity going on?"
You bet your sweet ass!
2. By the same token, could the nomination of an attack dog for UN ambassador be motivated by a desire to
drown out UN truth telling?
3. I heart Henry Waxman! Isn't it about time *we* started to raise him up as one of our heroes? Bring out the T-shirts & bumper-stickers! Get Waxman on David Letterman and the cover of Time magazine!
BroD |
04.23.05 - 7:35 pm | #