I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
FUCK BUSH AND HIS SUPPORTERS
OT (already!?)
Wolcott Sez:
and this headscratcher from the section's chief ass-scratcher, Jonah Goldberg:
"Am I the only one to notice that pretty much all the characters on E.R. are unlikable -- or not particularly likable -- people now?"
Presumably, a NRO confrere will humor Jonah by assuring him that he's noticed it too, maybe it's because the show has become more liberal, then John Derbyshire will post that he's never watched E.R. but that he once had a moose antler removed from his ass after much spirited drinking of grog, and K'Lo will offer warm huggies to the first ten suckers who show up at the National Review's Atlanta squirrel hunt, or whatever that confab is that they keep pleading with people to attend.
By the way: I'm putting my money and my ovaries in a matress and protecting both with a shotgun.
Let them eat cake!
Wait. So I lose $4 bucks a month in voluntary accounts, plus having my benefits cut? I'm so confused.
Yeah, but it's wartime...forever. And we have to make sacrifices.
Where are the Dems today? Goddammit, they should be all over the Smirks bullshit, but they must be doing the brie and cheese thang today.
Fuck it; makes you want to let the wingers just have it all. Let them finish the destruction so we can start over.
And now I am told that the White House is wheeling out, to explain the details of his plan... Cathie Martin, Deputy Assistant to the President for Communications, will answer your questions about Strengthening Social Security and Future Generations. Are all the substance people in the White House fleeing from this? Where are they?
'Nuff said.
shit I was going to sell my stocks and buy file cabinets.
Where are the Dems today? Goddammit, they should be all over the Smirks bullshit, but they must be doing the brie and cheese thang today.
It's Friday, nothing they say will make the news. Wait until they tear it a new one on Sunday.
To be fair, I have my 401K in treasuries if only for the relative stability compared to stocks. I know I won't make a killing, but every week, 10% of my check goes into my 401K, and luckily I have not lost money compared to my stock-invested coworkers who got a chunk out of their asses during 2000-2002.
I know I won't live large, but at least I'll have something set aside, along with SS benefits (fingers crossed).
Hard to polish a turd.
hey now, as chris andersen said in brad's comments youre dealing
with facts, which have no place it today's society
in fact, i'm so far from reality i'm putting all soc.$ in bush
plan and, and, and ...must now stop typing, brain hurts.
Chica Toxica!
Hola! Que tal? Good to see ya, in that weird sort of cyber "see ya" way again.
Spank me hard that's nasty!
this is what we need, too, hard numbers to beat this whackos senseless with.
Hey, anyone seen Hecate?
Chi Di posted on this earlier but linky no worky - found this thanks to TJ. (A Wiccan being defended by the ACLU against a school board).
I'll throw in the obligatory WHY DOES MATHEMATICS HATE AMERICA.
Social Security is truly the test case on how insane America is. If a majority of people happily vote Republican next year after the President went on national t.v. and told them he was promising huge benefit cuts, I fucking give up.
This is what happens when you are surrounded by yes-men and when you punish bringers of bad news. Bush has a distorted view of how this is playing in Peoria. He really believes he is making ground because that is what his yes-men are telling him. Nixon had the same problem.
I just read the comments at FR on Bush's SS plan. About 90% think it sucks. He can't sell it to the most rabid 1% of his base. This plan is sooo dead.
Alderaan - it's all in the advertising. And if enough people have seen and believe that Bush's advocating a net benefit cut across their bows, they won't be happy.
Rethugs explaining the subterfuge to George in terms he can understand:
No, ya see, those are treasure-y bonds. You're either with us or with the pirates. Arr!
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Throw in an unhealthy dose of hubris and The Fates will get you.
Hells fire buddy, we ain't had no attacks on amurica, so smirkass is doing a wunnerful job.
Does it matter any longer what the public's perception of w is, except to w's ego?
Thealogie--you visited my blog! Color me so proud. 
If Smirk can lie and fuck up everything for 4 years and finally get elected , why should,nt he think he can sell the electorate any fuckin lie?
Class warfare? I'm an army of one.
Thealogie--you visited my blog! Color me so proud.
TJ | Email | Homepage | 04.29.05 - 5:24 pm | #
Yeah, Thealogie dropped my my blog recently.
I feel your stokedness.
I would like to contribute, I really would: unfortunately it is Friday night and I got nuttin to add except what I already said, FUCK BUSH
This is what happens when you are surrounded by yes-men and when you punish bringers of bad news. Bush has a distorted view of how this is playing in Peoria.
That certainly seems to be the best analysis to explain what's going on.
Every single poll that has appeared since bamboozlepalooza started has shown a steady and indisputable growth in the number of people who do not like the Bush plan for destroying OASDI.
Previously, he and Rove have flip-flopped with all due haste to at least appear to fall in line with poll results... But not on this.
It's really weird that they've suddenly lost their ability to completely lie to people and tell everyone what they want to hear. He went on television and said, in no uncertain terms, that he wants to cut benefits. That's just insane.
There's got to be something else going on here. Perhaps it is as Troutski suggests, and Nero has finally been surrounded by a circle of such dedicated dolts that nobody is willing to tell him he's being dumb. Or perhaps something else is going on.
Thealogie--you visited my blog! Color me so proud.
TJ
Yeah, Thealogie dropped my my blog recently.
I feel your stokedness.
John
Thealogie has passed through my neck of the woods a couple of times as well. As has Tena. I am quite happy that someone is reading it.
I wonder why none of the bobbleheads deigned to comment on the fact that the T-bills that were nothing but a "filing cabinet of IOUs" in the current S.S. system are a conservative, sound investment "backed by the full faith and credit" of the U.S. Treasury when purchased for a private account...
Bush, cocksucka!
Oooh, don't have a Tena, in either real or troll form.
But then, I can't track who visits me. I only know if they leave a message. Or if it's my wife, who corrects my grammar (she being a Jedi Copy Editress and all).
it isn't surprising that people want to keep soc sec intact. most of us are already heavily invested in it. we have been paying in all our lives.
BGK: Stephanopolis caught it.
Not like it was the only zinger to come out of the damned thing, though. You have to ignore all his malapropisms, which I'm sure were all cleared up in the transcripts.
Some steal with a gun, others steal with a pen.
Well, there's always the Ohio solution to debt reduction:
FBI raids Noe's condo, seizes 'some property'
Investigators seek evidence of campaign-fund activity
By MIKE WILKINSON and JAMES DREW
BLADE STAFF WRITERS
The federal probe into whether local Republican fund-raiser Tom Noe was illegally funneling money to the Bush campaign had been ongoing for months. It reached a turning point Wednesday night.
FBI agents swept into Mr. Noe’s Maumee condo about 7:30 p.m., spending three hours scouring the home of one of the most prominent Republicans in northwest Ohio. They were looking for evidence of violations of federal campaign contribution laws.
The federal probe is studying Mr. Noe’s campaign contributions to the President, and specifically contributions made by others who may have received money from Mr. Noe, possibly allowing him to exceed the $2,000 spending cap.
Mr. Noe, 50, is a coin dealer and former chairman of the Lucas County Republican Party. He manages two rare-coin funds that have received $50 million from the Ohio Bureau of Workers Compensation.
That investment arrangement is currently under a separate investigation being conducted by the Ohio inspector general.
Mr. Noe also is chairman of the Ohio Turnpike Commission and a member of the Ohio Board of Regents.
He also is chairman of the U.S. Mint’s Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee."
I wonder why none of the bobbleheads deigned to comment
Has anyone asked the bobbleheads if they had to submit their questions in advance like usual? Bush seemed too prepared for the questions.
Hmm ram through SS piratization in June, great just in time to finance our next war.
soc sec is the foundation of almost everyone's retirement plan. of course we don't want it fucked with.
Heh. There is no Social Security trust fund, just a buncha worhtless paper IOUs in a filing cabinet.
If you really want to guarantee yourself a good retirement, invest in Treasury Bonds.
It's really weird that they've suddenly lost their ability to completely lie to people and tell everyone what they want to hear. He went on television and said, in no uncertain terms, that he wants to cut benefits. That's just insane.
They don't call it "The Third Rail of American Politics" for nuthin', honey.
Stephanopolis caught it.
This being the same Steffy who moistened his own shorts over how strong a performance the Chimp gave? (I only heard that secondhand, as I was subjecting myself to MSNBC in an effort to build up a callus on my sense of outrage.)
Has anyone asked the bobbleheads if they had to submit their questions in advance like usual?
That would explain why he was looking down at his podium when picking the next reporter.
look I'm not stupid and certainly not scared by numbers (far from it)... but once the math gets this complicated, the possibilities for bamboozlement abound.
Why anyone would go for Bush's piratization plan, I don't know. This is like trying to understand how the credit card company calculates your finance charge, and we all know who comes out on the winning end of that one...
If you really want to guarantee yourself a good retirement, invest in Treasury Bonds.
I read a long NYer profile of a hedge fund manager about four years ago. This guy managed mountains of money and had amassed a huge personal fortune of his own.
Where was that fortune invested?
Treasury bonds.
Can I blog pimp for Phila?
Splendiferous nudibranch awaits!
*
Les did not like the questions, either.
Q In recognizing reporters last night, it appeared once more as if the President were following a script of pre-selected names. And my question, does the President believe that the American people really want to see questions by essentially the same old pre-selected reporters every time?
Why anyone would go for Bush's piratization plan, I don't know. This is like trying to understand how the credit card company calculates your finance charge, and we all know who comes out on the winning end of that one...
Yup, I really think this is the one that cracks Bush's image. People honestly don't want their economic future tampered with, and there's a big portion of Bush followers who I imagine rely on SS.
"just in time to finance our next war."
bingo. all the money spent fighting bush's fake war on terror in iraq is money that can't be spent on other things. we have an irresponsible dingbat in office who is pissing away our money and our future for this bullshit. the problem is that the treasury has already been looted.
See, Olaf, that's Bush's big plan: bankrupt the gummint so we can't have any more socialist welfare programs.
Brilliant!
Excuse me, but did DeLong mention something about "the substance people" in the Bush administration? Brad, I know it's Friday and admittedly this is the wrong decade to quit drinking, but still....
Les did not like the questions, either.
Well, that's just tough duck.
I'm sorry, very easily amused here, that is still making me laugh.
alderaan,
WHY DOES MATHEMATICS HATE AMERICA?
LOL :D
don't handle yourself after a planet that got destroyed by the death star. you deserve better.
call yourself red5 or something.
renato, i don't know if you are kidding or not. that really is the plan, though. ask grover norquist if you don't believe me.
This from an administration that has already squandered around 12 trillion dollars (counting the 4 trillion surplus and 7 trillion deficit)? Not surprising at all.
If anyone is going to bankrupt the system it's these guys. Why should anyone believe any financial advice these guy's are selling?
ot, but i have been hearing mixed reviews on the hitchiker movie. when does it come out, anyway?
Olaf, I thought it came out today. We have a rule at our house that no one can go see a movie based on a book unless they've read the book, and my son was eagerly reading HHGG two days ago in preparation.
when does it come out, anyway?
Today.
In some cases, it's playing right now.
Seeing it tonight.
it isn't surprising that people want to keep soc sec intact. most of us are already heavily invested in it. we have been paying in all our lives.
Olaf glad and big | Email | Homepage | 04.29.05 - 5:32 pm
ogb, if i turn 65 and they tell me "sorry charlie, all that money of yours we took? we spent it," i am going to become a gray fucking panther and get all up in somebody's ass like john fucking brown.
hell, i'm practically there already.
lefty sentiments aside - you steal from me? i bury th' cockaroachas!
yes i know all about grover's infamous quote
ot, but i have been hearing mixed reviews on the hitchiker movie. when does it come out, anyway?
Olaf glad and big
It opens today. Ebert says you have to be a fan of the books to like the film.
Good.
I was worried that the subtle humor would be dumbed down for your typical movie audience.
damn. i was going to go see it the day it came out, too. oh well. i guess i will go tomorrow.
Since 'Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy' opens this week, I now realise what Bush is doing.
Bistromathics.
By reducing people to flipping burgers, he turns the country into a giant restaurant. In doing so, he invokes the bistromathic effect:
"Numbers written on restaurant bills within the confines of restaurants do not follow the same mathematical laws as numbers written on any other pieces of paper in any other parts of the Universe."
And that powers the country, thus solving the energy crisis.
Genius.
</sarcasm>
maybe i will go tonight. let me check the listings
I have tickets for 7:30.
Olaf glad and big,
H2G2 opened here in Boston today. I'm going to see it tomorrow.
Mixed reviews. Rabid Adams fans say his looniness is lost. The crazy dialogs, etc.
I'll let you know.
It opens today. Ebert says you have to be a fan of the books to like the film.
Good.
I was worried that the subtle humor would be dumbed down for your typical movie audience.
Very very good news.
Since 'Hitch-Hiker's Guide To The Galaxy' opens this week, I now realise what Bush is doing.
Bistromathics.
With a BIG dose of Somebody Else's Problem.
woohoo! i can catch a 7 oclock show
I only wonder, when will the "lone democrat" in Congress will stand up and state his opposition to Bush;s plas as ..."It's the numbers, stupid".
regards
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RE: H2G2
I went to a wedding a couple weeks ago and the father of the groom had a huge "42" embroidered into his tux.
His daughter gave it to him for the wedding. Very sweet.
if i turn 65 and they tell me "sorry charlie, all that money of yours we took? we spent it," i am going to become a gray fucking panther and get all up in somebody's ass like john fucking brown.
Me too. I've been paying in this damn thing since I was sixteen. I'm counting on it. They've been sending me statements that say I'll get $1,250/month. I've budgeted using that figure.
BTW, r@d@r ... There is a new biography out of John Fucking Brown. It sounds very interesting.
i was kind of worried about h2g2 because in the previews the special effects looked pretty good. i was hoping they would suck.
My kid made her own H2G2 t-shirts for herself and her friends. Have to run take her to the film now. Ciao moonbats!
i depth-bombed this whilst perusing a dead thread
then came to this one and discovered it's not inappropos here, so:
Folks, ya gotta realize
any change that does not bring more money into the fund plays into their hands.
no matter what they say their aims are, and no matter how they disguise their real agenda, ANY preznitch'l plan or GOPuke bill under the Bushevik imprimatur will be harmful to Social Security.
Any plan or bill that purports to act on the belief that younger workers will be screwed under SS will have the exact effect of screwing younger workers.
Any plan or bill that purports to dispense ownership is nothing more than a plan to rescind ownership.
Any plan or bill that purports to address apparent disparities based on race will not improve or rectify those disparities, but exaggerate them...
There is but one possible response to ANY Bushevik/GOPhuque initiative in this matter, and that is to stonewall the fuck outta the thing.
Because no matter HOW good any deal looks to you/us/all y'all now, there will be a stipulation embedded therein whose sole and only function is to turn around and bite you (us/US) venomously, on the ass...
it aint gonna be any other way...
so the first time you see a cmpromise coming from the Dumbocraps on social security, the jig is up...
an' you know it
just sayin...
I heard it On NPR this morning and laughed and laughed and laughed. The Bush base of suburban upper-middle class fundies wont even bite on this one!
Gotta go -- talk to you guys later
this PM.
Olaf, I thought it came out today. We have a rule at our house that no one can go see a movie based on a book unless they've read the book, and my son was eagerly reading HHGG two days ago in preparation.
I think that's a bad idea in this case. H2G2 changed from radio series to book to TV and now to film, and anyone going expecting a rehash of the book may be disappointed. I'm taking my wife, who's never encountered any of the previous incarnations, and it'll be interesting what she thinks of it as a movie on its own merits.
another good line from wolcott and a true insult to chimpy the day after his press con:
The New York Post didn't even put the Bush press con on page one, realizing that Katie Holmes & Tom Cruise (the new Brad & Jen?) and a Phil Rizzuto commemorative medallion took precedence.
GWPDA -- Extremely strange stuff has been going on up there in the Lucas Co. area. I'd love to know someone with the nitty-gritty on what's really going on.
Bush's social security plan is to gut it for the middle class. Isn't that all that has to be said to kill it? Funny how we can afford a military bigger then the rest of the world combined and can give away billions in tax cuts but can't keep our kids health and our elderly out of the cat food.
What would a big bill board over looking the oval office cost? How about one of those electronic ones, whose message continually changes? Is there any other way to get a message to the Emperor Chimp? I've got so much I want to say to him!
How many times is Bu$h going to go on national TV and lie to our faces? Oh, right. It ain't about sex, merely stealing old folks nest eggs. Not a problem.
I just heard from my mother that my wingnut SIL is so pissed about her decreased standard of living that she is now blathering about how great things were under Clinton's leadership. Hahahaha.
Hi! What's new?
I see most of today's threads have been devoted to monkey boy and Social Security. If this lovely lashing of Loony Limbaugh was already posted, sorry.
Washington, April 28 –Today, in response to Rush Limbaugh's statement that "the religious left in this country hates and despises the God of Christianity and Catholicism," the Rev. Dr. C. Welton Gaddy, president of The Interfaith Alliance, released the following statement:
"All people of faith in the most religiously diverse nation on earth should be insulted by the uninformed religious pronouncements of a vitriolic radio host," said Rev. Dr. C Welton Gaddy, President of the Interfaith Alliance. "Mr. Limbaugh has repeatedly demonstrated his ignorance and insensitivity to the religious communities in this nation.
"Mr. Limbaugh demeans the very spirit of Christianity as well as the faithful Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Sikh, Hindu, Baha'i, and other religious communities. Unfortunately Mr. Limbaugh's words echo the recent misuse of religion by politicians. We remain gravely concerned about the continuing manipulation of religion for partisan political purposes. The fusion of partisan politics and religion arrogantly blasphemes religion and aggressively threatens the vitality of democracy.
"The Interfaith Alliance remains committed to the healing role of religion in America and stands with all people of faith and good will who remain dedicated to common values that enhance our lives together."
heh.
Was reading Riverbend's blog "Baghdad Burning" and she has a wonderful idea I thought people here might get a kick out of:
Furthermore, I don’t understand the worlds fascination with reality shows. Survivor, The Bachelor, Murder in Small Town X, Faking It, The Contender… it’s endless. Is life so boring that people need to watch the conjured up lives of others?
I have a suggestion of my own for a reality show. Take 15 Bush supporters and throw them in a house in the suburbs of, say, Falloojeh for at least 14 days. We could watch them cope with the water problems, the lack of electricity, the check points, the raids, the Iraqi National Guard, the bombings, and- oh yeah- the ‘insurgents’. We could watch their house bombed to the ground and their few belongings crushed under the weight of cement and brick or simply burned or riddled with bullets. We could see them try to rebuild their life with their bare hands (and the equivalent of $150)…
I’d not only watch *that* reality show, I’d tape every episode.
I'd buy the whole set on DVD.
Don't forget that according to Bush the Middle Class begins at $20,001.00
Katie Holmes & Tom Cruise (the new Brad & Jen?)
Garner or Lopez?
Damn, what does Ben Affleck have that I don't have (aside from the ruggedly handsome good looks, wealth, fame, and acting talent)?
For you H2G2 fans going to the film.
A nice tribute.
hell, i'd not only watch a show like that. i would finance it.
In other news, German immigrant governor praises anti-immigrant group.
http://tinyurl.com/7f96b
"Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who outraged some Mexican-American groups last week by calling for a closed border, praised the civilian volunteer Minuteman Project for its patrols to spot illegal immigrants."
"Schwarzenegger's comments came a week after he faced criticism for telling a gathering of newspaper publishers that the United States needed to "close the borders." He apologized the next day, blaming faulty English and saying he really meant the borders should be secured."
Well that was interesting -- Howard Zinn and David Horowitz on MSNBC's Monica/Ron show on the fall of Saigon. Zinn articulate as always, Horowitz shifting uncomfortably when his history in the anti-war movement brought up. Never really addresses it, all he can do is rant about spitting on veterans which Zinn ably and knowledgably refutes. Horowitz resorts to throwing dung and name-calling. Big angry moron.
hell, i'd not only watch a show like that. i would finance it.
Olaf glad and big | Email | Homepage | 04.29.05 - 6:03 pm | #
I thought we already were.
Wow, pie. That was a fantastic put down of ol' Limpballs. Heh, indeed.
howard zinn was on tv? cool.
Howard Zinn went on MSNBC? With David Horror-witless? Wow.
pie,m
Excellent post ! There really are people with a conscience in the religious community that is fed up with being hyjacked for political purposes.
Sosunds like the tide is starting to turn.
regards
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When did Horowitz STOP spitting on veterans?
Check out The Rude Pundit's take on the farce last night that was labelled as a "Presidential News Conference."
We could see them try to rebuild their life with their bare hands (and the equivalent of $150)
It would work best if they were Bush supporting Pundits. Johan is my #1 choice.
He apologized the next day, blaming faulty English and saying he really meant the borders should be secured."
Well, I guess we know how sorry he really was, don't we.
He's going out in a blaze, but no glory in sight.
Flamer.
Howard Zinn went on MSNBC? With David Horror-witless? Wow.
Yeah, it woke me up. I keep it on in the background and anticipate that most of it will be of the "who got kicked off The Apprentice this week" variety. Horowitz should limit his personal appearances. He is not what you'd call "sympathetic."
limbaugh is funny because normally he doesn't even try to fake being religious the way most conservatives do. i'm guessing he just isn't very good at it.
I'm 59, recently (and thanks all for all the good wishes((!))), and i am certain that if there's any way they can do it, the mutherfockers will try to do me out of it...they are, in fact, even as we 'speak,' bending their every effort and guile to undo every item in the 'liberal' system of social safety nets.
why?
simple, really
capitalism requires docile labor. there are no more docile laborers than those who owe their souls to the company store...
this is all about disciplining the labor force...
think about the bill gates thing today about education and not hiring americans? the thing Indians and Chinese do better than USers is obsequiousness on the job...and they work cheaper...
and you don't have to pretend you care about them at the company picnic...cuz there aren't any company picnics when the bosses are in San Jose or Seattle and the workers are in Mumbai or Guangchong...
just sayin...
Re: Riverbend's Reality Show -
Actual Reality? Why, how dare you, suh? Them's fightin words!
Take 15 Bush supporters and throw them in a house in the suburbs of, say, Falloojeh
Hahahaha, can we pick them in the way of say, "the lottery"?
"Jonah Goldberg, please step forward"
"No, no, not me!" (clinging to his mothers skirt)
Hell, just send the whole "the corner" crew.
Circular Firing Squad of Flying Attack Monkeys is pretty good.
David Whorowitz is in more serious trouble than he has ever imagined if he and i ever are in the same elevator car...
"the substance people"
Obvious typo; there are no people of substance in the admin., unless that's a new euphemism for drugheads.
We knew Adams was great, but who expected him to prophesy Bill's presidency? Nostradamus, thou art punked!
The commments on this site are one of the main things that have kept me going in the days leading up to the 2004 "election" and since. And now Douglas Adams is becoming a recurring theme -- it just doesn't get any better than this. Until, of course, our country does an abrupt volte-face and we move from the fast lane to Margaret Atwood's "Handmaid's Tale" back into something like what the founding fathers had in mind when they put this whole country thingy together a few years ago.
I'm a dog person myself, but...can we get some catblogging soon, please?
horowitz assumes that since he spat on soldiers returning from vietnam, everyone did.
pie - thanks for that - I love it. Finally the sane religious leaders in this country have had enough. I've been waiting and waiting for this
Take 15 Bush supporters and throw them in a house in the suburbs of, say, Falloojeh
Take Charles Johnson, hang those Rachel Corrie mousepads all over him, and drop him down in the Middle of the Gaza strip.
Bring Horowitz to Berkeley, tie him to a board above a vat of cat shit and have a dunk the moron contest.
Tar and feather Dobson with his own propaganda and release him in the middle of the Castro.
Drop Glenn Reynolds in the middle of downtown Newark with one of those "celebrate diversity" t-shirts.
Lock Rush up in the hyenna cage of the San Diego zoo.
horowitz assumes that since he spat on soldiers returning from vietnam, everyone did.
Zinn too classy to say this. But I certainly would've. Heh heh.
I've had to work most of the day and haven't had a chance to get my fix. I hate that.
This, and The Middle Class thread have been most interesting.
And now, I'll go back and read comments.
i am going to become a gray fucking panther and get all up in somebody's ass like john fucking brown.
It's Friday and you know it's pitchfork o'clock somewhere.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 04.29.05 - 6:15 pm | #
Or, you know, make them work a 40 hour a week job with no health care, a 10 year-old car, $10,000 in credit card debt, and no access to their previous fame and fortune.
Finally the sane religious leaders in this country have had enough.
I hope this is circulated in churches across the country. People who give this asshole any credence should at least be made to squirm. Whether a little or a lot, it doesn't matter.
SWR | Email | Homepage | 04.29.05 - 6:15 pm | #
Damn, that was funny! I had to preserve it for posterity.
Actually, make that *christians* who give him any credence.
Just heard a WH reporter give Bu$h's spin on the press conference last night that went over like a lead balloon. Bu$h claims he had to hold it cause "there was a lot of noise comming out of Washington." WTF? What a prick. Every time he speaks I get the fingernails on the blackboard reaction.
Hecate - Earlier someone was asking for you - they had a link to a story about the ACLU defending some Wiccans.
Sorry I can't remember the details - did you bump into that story anywhere?
it has always seemed kind of weird to me that limbaugh doesn't bother to fake being a very devout christian himself, but all the other fake christians accept him as one of their own.
ENRONization of Social Security. That's the word to use and use and use.
We read a case in employment discrimination involving Wiccans and religious discrimination: VanKoten v. Family Health Management, Inc., 1998 U.S. App. LEXIS 1837 (7th Cir. 199
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Tena--I have a link to the witch story at my blog, here (towards the bottom). Thealogie linked to it also way upthread.
Tena,
No, I missed it. Sounds interesting; I'll check the thread and see if I can find it. Thanks!
it has always seemed kind of weird to me that limbaugh doesn't bother to fake being a very devout christian himself, but all the other fake christians accept him as one of their own.
I don't think it's weird, I just think it is further evidence of how hypocritical they all are.
It's Friday and you know it's pitchfork o'clock somewhere.
Hahahahaha. Well, it's just about happ hour for this liberal drinker.
it has always seemed kind of weird to me that limbaugh doesn't bother to fake being a very devout christian himself
Kind of hard to be very devout anything when you're a slave to oxycontin and about to bed down with wifey #4.
Well, now we know why Bush held a press conference.
His plan clearly wasn't taking on water fast enough.
When are all these fundie "Christians" going to start breaking apart on denominational lines? It's not like the Catholics have all that much in common with the rest of them, notwithstanding all the recent adulation of the new Pope.
Kind of hard to be very devout anything when you're a slave to oxycontin and about to bed down with wifey #4.
I have this sneaking suspicion that the lot of them, those who talk big about Jesus, would be terrified of actually meeting him because the Number One Son would see right through them
i checked that link, tj. it was funny to see the religious crackpot talking about the recent harper's article which indicated "hatred against traditional christians". as if white southern fundamentalists were traditional christians anyway.
His plan clearly wasn't taking on water fast enough. 
RMJ - I read the freeper thread a little bit ago, they even think it sucks.
anyway, i'm off. gotta make sure i can get a ticket to h2g2. i expect it will be crowded.
Kind of hard to be very devout anything when you're a slave to oxycontin and about to bed down with wifey #4.
That's Whalerider V.4.0, according to TBogg.
TJ,
Great blog!
It's Friday and you know it's pitchfork o'clock somewhere.
Hecate
==
Which means it's WAAAYY past beer:thirty. Get busy time!
kitties? where are the little munchkins?
enjoy your movie, olaf.
Chri/tx, what are the freepers saying? Even my wingnut SIL is sick of Bu$h's wrecking her standard of living.
His plan clearly wasn't taking on water fast enough.
Blasphemy!
If you have enough faith bin a crappy plan, it can walk on water.
Your credulity must be, like, the size of a mustard seed, when for the ordinary wingnut it's the size of a bus. Sheesh.
Thank you, Hecate. Coming from one who holds the keys to Eschaton, that is high praise indeed.
Olaf, have fun at the movies!
"Chri/tx, what are the freepers saying? Even my wingnut SIL is sick of Bu$h's wrecking her standard of living."
From the comments I've seen the freepie(freepus?) ain't happy. The aol polls really sucked for chimpy, too, so you know it's real, real bad.
bigvic - Re the freepers - They are calling it means testing, so it is going to be basically welfare for the elderly. Also, some realize they could fall on hard times and have to depend on SS as a sole source of income, etc. Otherwords, about the same thing we are saying here.
From the comments I've seen the freepie(freepus?) ain't happy. The aol polls really sucked for chimpy, too, so you know it's real, real bad.
Considering the train wreck last night's bullshit feast has started, I'm betting it's "walk on glass" time around the White House today. The Lump probably asked to have extra agents put on the liquor cabinet--in case there's a perimeter breach.
jwd,
Awwww, are the wingnuts having buyers remorse? Serves 'em all right for putting this entire country through pure hell.
what are the freepers saying?
Lots about that woman who is missing in Georgia, lots about Maggie Gyllenhall, lots about Judy Woodruff retiring from CNN.
Not so much about Bush.
And they would never say anything bad about the guy, so saying nothing is the worst they can muster.
GWPDA, Irate Scholar
+++++++++++++++++++++++
I pulled your case this morning. Hmmmm. No wonder you are irate. I'd be hopping mad.
Awwww, are the wingnuts having buyers remorse? Serves 'em all right for putting this entire country through pure hell.
I poked around FR and I couldn't find much of it.
Do you have a link (you might just to cut and past the link without an html tag so you don't bring them here)?
Considering the train wreck last night's bullshit feast has started...
Actually, the hand-holding and kissing with the Saudi prince was the start of the train wreck. The press conference was just the latest car to derail.
"They are calling it means testing, so it is going to be basically welfare for the elderly"
I've read where they think it's robin hood...taking their money and giving it away to the undeserving poor, and they are not happy.
And what the gop wants to make it IS welfare for the poor, and this is how they'll kill it. But in the meantime it's gonna take a lot of the freepus money and make them quite unhappy.
ENRONization of Social Security
Sounds good. Most people equate it, at least, with conmen who scammed *innocent* employees.
Not to mention the state of California.
That's Whalerider V.4.0, according to TBogg.
I love TBogg. That is so damned funny.
Actually, the hand-holding and kissing with the Saudi prince was the start of the train wreck.
If you know another way to exchange long protein strings, I'd like to see it.
The funny thing is chimpy went from probably almost 40% supporting his plan, to maybe less than 10% after the disaster last night, at least on this means testing. He probably still has some support for his private accounts.
"And they would never say anything bad about the guy, so saying nothing is the worst they can muster.
Dave J."
Last night at Kos' someone diaried a long list of pissed off comments from them. I'll see if I can find it.
SWR - http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1393269/
posts
This is the one I read.
I thought Bu$h and the freepers were always hollering about CLASS WARFARE! I guess it now bites them in the butt and is no longer so funny.
I guess it now bites them in the butt and is no longer so funny.
True, but the snapping out of their cognitive dissonance is going to be much more painful.
I wonder why none of the bobbleheads deigned to comment on the fact that the T-bills that were nothing but a "filing cabinet of IOUs" in the current S.S. system are a conservative, sound investment "backed by the full faith and credit" of the U.S. Treasury when purchased for a private account...
I was driving around this morning, and Jerry Springer's show on AAR covered this contradiction thoroughly, plus the fact that the MSM don't know how to ask questions.
Drop Glenn Reynolds in the middle of downtown Newark with one of those "celebrate diversity" t-shirts.
Count me in,SWR. You snatch him, I know just the place to drop him.
Mark Shields made a good point. It's the universality of Social Security across the economic spectrum that garners popular support. It's social and it's secure...for everyone.
So Bush giving special recognition to the bottom of the ladder taints that perspective.
TJ:
I hate to admit my ignorance, but
who is that person who did the
original version of "Born for a
Purpose" on the Pretenders comp?
That's Whalerider V.4.0, according to TBogg.
I love TBogg. That is so damned funny.
Yep, that's the gift that just keeps on giving. I can't see Daryn Kagan (future Mrs. Rush) without laughing.
SWR - http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...cu...s/1393269/
posts
This is the one I read.
Thanks. But Iksne on the HTML Tagse because if they check their referrers, you might bring unwanted guests.
Yep, that's the gift that just keeps on giving. I can't see Daryn Kagan (future Mrs. Rush) without laughing.
Rush better have a lot of cash on hand for hush money because you know there's a tell-all book waiting to be written that would just destroy the Cult o' Rush.
Rich Lowry talking about Clinton saying *we need to go about the people's business* in the midst of the scandal, and this is what some republicans are saying re DeLay, because it backfired against the repubs who were going after Clinton.
My, my.
SWR - I didn't use any tags, guess haloscan now automatically does that.
steve simels,
gosh, I thought you knew a little something about music!
the bottom of the ladder taints that perspective.
pie
Oh Jeez, I just read that as calling out the lowest-income folks as a bunch of "bottom of the ladder taints."
Hah!
I really cannot believe how bad Bush has misunderestimated the politics here. Who exactly does he think this is going to appeal to? Does he imagine hoards of lower-income voters, who previously were really PO'd about potential SS cuts, calling their Senators to sey "aw, hell yeah, vote for this plan!"
Please. Those people aren't the types who call members of congress. I know, I've worked for a member of the House, doing constituent work. Everyone I dealt with was either middle or upper class--and this was in a very diverse (even moderately low-income) district in California. It's just that you have to have a certain frame of reference to even consider calling your member of Congress about a problem. So the people calling are going to be the ones who woke up today to find that the President wants to cut the holy hell out of the program they've been paying into their whole working lives.
Does he imagine hoards of lower-income voters, who previously were really PO'd about potential SS cuts, calling their Senators to sey "aw, hell yeah, vote for this plan!"
Mark Shields actually used the word WELFARE when discussing Chimpy's latest bombshell.
booshes boondoggle on social security was as stupid as the idiot who started a panic in that New Mexico school by mistaking a burrito for a weapon.
Rush better have a lot of cash on hand for hush money because you know there's a tell-all book waiting to be written that would just destroy the Cult o' Rush.
Dude you just KNOW that nobody is using that many drugs for that long without some real doozie stories. I'm betting they've already paid off dozens.
Oh Jeez, I just read that as calling out the lowest-income folks as a bunch of "bottom of the ladder taints."
See last post.
Q In recognizing reporters last night, it appeared once more as if the President were following a script of pre-selected names. And my question, does the President believe that the American people really want to see questions by essentially the same old pre-selected reporters every time?
Holden Caulfield
Little Scottie: Same ol' hypocritical lie-brul, Les. The White House tried to bring in some fresh new purty faces to be hos and lie-brul bloggers ran 'em out cuz they were jealous of his vigour and virility. So which is it going to be, Les? Same ol' press hos or purty new faces hos?
of course a big burrito devoured by that flatulent fuck rush blowhard would be a dangerous weapon.
I can just see those boneheads over at Freeperville investing their own money successfully in this market. Hahahaha. Red Lobster doesn't pay well enough for for a big nest egg and we're all about one medical nightmare/job loss away from the poorhouse anyway.
booshes boondoggle on social security was as stupid as the idiot who started a panic in that New Mexico school by mistaking a burrito for a weapon.
If used properly (or improperly, as it were), a burrito can empty a room as quickly as any other weapon I can think of.
juicy fruit:
I said, I hate to admit my ignorance.
I suppose now you only get kitties on Friday if you make less than $20,000?
So Bush giving special recognition to the bottom of the ladder taints that perspective.
pie -- 6:50 pm
it's racism coded for maximum alienation...bushevik plan "REWARDS" the lower achievers (blacks, latinos, drunks, druggies, the losers, iow) on the BACKS of HARD WORKING WHITE FOLKS WHO WILL HAVE THEIR BENEFITS CUT WHILE THEM NIGGERS IN CADILLACS...
it's a move of almost incalculably cool cynicism and precision: white folks, this wisdom goes, will give up almost anything to keep the undeserving colored from having it...
it's been working so far, seems to me...
just sayin
steve simels: DJ by the name of Dr. Alimantado (sp?)
of course a big burrito devoured by that flatulent fuck rush blowhard would be a dangerous weapon.
A true Weapon of Ass Destruction.
His plan clearly wasn't taking on water fast enough.
RMJ - I read the freeper thread a little bit ago, they even think it sucks.
chris/tx
Suddenly I feel a great disturbance in the Force.
Oh, never mind. I sat on a mustard seed.
Have y'all seen this?
Can't you just picture it? On January 20th 2009 W reaches under his chin, grabs the rubber mask and rips it off revealling......
Kenny Boy!!!!!!
steve simels: DJ by the name of Dr. Alimantado (sp?)
TJ | Email | Homepage | 04.29.05 - 7:03 pm | #
And this was like when?
Just watched CBS Evening News report on Bush's plan. They talked about the reduced benefits and the "pain" they carried, identifying benefit cuts up to 40 percent. But then they siad that that was the pain necessary to "bring the system to solvency." Unbelievable. It's the pain necesssary to pay for Bush's private accounts. Fucking idiots. Are they dumb, lazy, or purposefully misleading? Those guys are supposed to be reporting on this stuff as their jobs. It's shameful.
We read a case in employment discrimination involving Wiccans and religious discrimination: VanKoten v. Family Health Management, Inc., 1998 U.S. App. LEXIS 1837 (7th Cir. 199.
Res Ipsa Loquitor - I can't give you anything in the Wicker Line, but may I offer you new case law in the 10th, #02-3289?
Tee-hee! Friday in April is Court day!
Hecate--
I sent you the link to the wicca story (& MUCH ELSE!)
Y'all realize that Fredo has already stolen your money to give more tax cuts to the fabulously well to do (what are friends for?)
They talked about the reduced benefits and the "pain" they carried, identifying benefit cuts up to 40 percent. But then they siad that that was the pain necessary to "bring the system to solvency."
Just as the tens of thousands of dead in Iraq is part of the "pain" necessary to bring about a "democracy."
it's racism coded for maximum alienation
Which is why, darling, that Shield's use of the word *welfare*...
Re: Rushies Tushies
I reckon thos conservative "foxes" hook up with rush thinking: 'he's makin millions per year: wooohoo gravy train..." only to find that the part of his disposable income that doesnt go up his nose (so to speak), goes to blackmailers...
no turkee left for bling-bling???
o, so sorry...
bye, big boy!!!
.
Freepers are the type who would invest in a hydrogen mine.
Just watched CBS Evening News report on Bush's plan. They talked about the reduced benefits and the "pain" they carried, identifying benefit cuts up to 40 percent. But then they siad that that was the pain necessary to "bring the system to solvency."
The word PAIN was mentioned?
heh.
Finally found it. Somone cataloged some freepus comments at kos last night...these people are seriously messed up.
Is it any wonder, with all the evidence we've seen on Dubya's "fun with math" that every business he ever was involved with failed?
To borrow a word from Atrios - "Craptacular."
.
If used properly (or improperly, as it were), a burrito can empty a room as quickly as any other weapon I can think of.
Dave J.
You guys are on a roll tonight. LMAO.
I pulled your case this morning. Hmmmm. No wonder you are irate. I'd be hopping mad.
QL in NY - Well, I was, like five or six years ago - but you know, something goes on past a decade or so and it sorta becomes a part of you. Like a growth. Nah, this is celebration time - I'm making machaca and Dancing the Dance of Joy with Arthur....
Just watched CBS Evening News report on Bush's plan. They talked about the reduced benefits and the "pain" they carried, identifying benefit cuts up to 40 percent. But then they siad that that was the pain necessary to "bring the system to solvency."
Oy. Even though the "insolvent" system would payout 75% to 80% of current payout.
It's like a doctor saying, "You've got a condition that will cost you the use of your left foot, so to cure you we're going to remove both legs."
And this was like when?
steve simels
early 80s, methinks.
If used properly (or improperly, as it were), a burrito can empty a room as quickly as any other weapon I can think of.
Try a naked, gin-soaked Liddy Dole, wheeled into the room, flat on her back, legs moving like lobster antennae, covered in santorum.
Monica - Laughing my ass off!
For others, Bush singing imagine.
Here
monica_nyc, no.
It's surreal.
Sadly, we're stuck with reality.
Thanks though.
Hillbilly Ramblings (from WAY up there)
If you were on the mailing list for the Dems Week in Review, you would know that they ARE all over this -- but the MSM says nothing
If a tree falls in the forest & Fox News doesn't report it...
Gotta run to community recreation -- I'll try to be back after Compline
If used properly (or improperly, as it were), a burrito can empty a room as quickly as any other weapon I can think of.
Dave J.
Alright, who told you Friday night was Tex-Mex night?
Hello Prior A,
Long time no type. Guess all that prayin' is HARD WORK. Dianne and Karen said they spent a very pleasant afternoon with you last week.
Machaca with green chiles means -every- night is a good night....
this is OT, but very good-- full disclosure: a close friend wrote it.
is that blogwhoring or pimpin'?...
refried beans for all.
Double helpings!
Best comment from the Freeper thread, re. Social Security:
As an arch conservative, I never thought it was a good thing to begin with. It was more like a socialist plan. I hope my contributions are still in the trust fund, or I'm gonna have to move under a bridge soon. Can't find a menial, minimum-wage job here. Most these jobs are being given by our treasonous businessmen to Mexican and other thord world illegal aliens. My future doesn't look good if I can't find a job here and put food on my table, but whatever the means (even if illegal or worse), I'll put food on my table. The b@st@rds are stealing us blind of our livelihood. I say, fight fire with fire!
Notice the smooth segue into a rant on illegal immigration, and he's totally unhinged by the end. But it's classic conservative for you: I hate Social Security, but I better get my goddam share.
My future doesn't look good if I can't find a job here and put food on my table...
Whining about it on a blog is not going to put food on the table.
Just sayin'
Good article, fat sam. And it's called pimping. Heh.
Dave J: ain't that a classic! Gads, the freeper *mind*.
Homemade black beans with rice and shrimp, here. In fact, I'm going off to cook the shrimp in green sauce now.
OT Blogwhore:
Kinky Friedman announces campaign director and chief strategist.
So, if the status quo would pay out 75-80% of the promised benefits, the advantages of Bush's new scheme that would require 40% cuts in benefits are, exactly, what?
fatsam - That was a great link. Thank you; she's very good.
I live in Memphis. The wife had never been without work and made twice what I make until she became a Lucky Ducky and lost her job.
We were good at saving and always had the 6-month lifeline in the bank--- until we had twins. Savings account GONE, 2/3 of our income--- GONE. Number of mouths to feed: Doubled. This is all compounded by the fact that we have no family for hundreds of miles to assist with childcare.
We're still bringing in more than $50,000/yr and with increased freelance I hope to do even better this year. But for a family of 4 in cheap-ass Memphis it's HARD getting by on $50G. Childcare, mortgage, and the car note EATS the cash.
Add to all of this credit card debt that was NOTHING before the wife lost her job--and the doctor said "TWINS!"
We're educated, skilled, and have GREAT work histories and fantastic credit. But the double whammy of a tanking job market and a 2-fer in the baby dept has brought us one disaster away from bankruptcy. 50G ain't what it used to be-- and that's like 20G in New York dollars.
Most these jobs are being given by our treasonous businessmen to Mexican and other thord world illegal aliens.
Treasonous businessmen? How can he talk about BushCo like that?
Just as an example of GOP rat-packery and zombiedom, a bunch of my neighbors are full-on Bush-worshipping Repubs who want to see the borders sealed off. But when they need work done--wheher janitorial or construction or gardening--they hire illegals.
Still, they can't stop spouting the party line, 'cause nothing political comes out of their mouths but what gets put there by wingnut radio.
Thank you Tena, I'll tell her that. She's brand new at this, and that is her best so far, I think. (I'll have to explain to her that you're kind of a bigshot in this here blogworld 
)
My future doesn't look good if I can't find a job here and put food on my table, but whatever the means (even if illegal or worse), I'll put food on my table.
Doesn't he mean "put food on his family"?
Bush is fucking up the country but he blames everyone else.
Freepers are all dead from the neck up!
Hells fire buddy, we ain't had no attacks on amurica, so smirkass is doing a wunnerful job.
Hillbillyramblings
And hopefully the bankruptcy bill and Social Security cuts will hurt the people who voted for DUMBya the most.
Serves them right!
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