I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
But.. but... they have a new correction policy for op-ed columnists! See how sparkly our policy is!
And that was my fist time being first- was it good for you?
Mornin, SP.
Looks like the NYT continues in its grand old tradition
Liars are the new Truthtellers.
Hey, fresh thread and no one has said. FUCK BUSH. Permit me, please: FUCK BUSH AND HIS EVIL MINIONS.
And yet another new thread. Atrios must have had a double portion of Wheaties this morning.
Seeing as how the middle class is turning into the working poor or the unemployed, maybe I'll not have any cuts to my SS benefits by the time I start collecting them.
Robin Hood?
Feh!
Robbing hood.
Here in Murica we live in the age of kiss-up, kick-down "journalism".
I heard a news report on the radio yesterday that emphasized Bush's progressivity and how he'd turned the tables on the Democratic party, once known for being progressive and the defender of the poor. I think it was one of thaose ABC-type canned report.
All that from the phrase "progressive price indexing." Now that's reporting. Yowser!
Mornin' NTodd!
Thanks, Atrios. Keep pounding this jerk.
Meanwhile, I am CANCELLING MY SUBSCRIPTION TODAY!
Fuck you, Sulzburger family!
Ahem. Speaking on behalf of all the decayed gentry of America, I'd like to say that Tierney's remarks are not lies. They are just little fibs and he's trying to be sweet.
All that from the phrase "progressive price indexing." Now that's reporting. Yowser!
jimmiraybob
Said indexing assumes wages rise faster than prices. Given the drop in real earnings workers have recently experienced, the 'poor' may find that once again they've been had.
jimmyraybob,
You sure that wasn't one of the administration's "reports"?
Essential Bush:
“See, what the AMURKAN PEOPLE need ta WRECKaNIZE is GASOLINE prices go UP when the price a crude goes UP, see, so then NOOKuLAR power is GOOD essept in Iran or the KOREAN PANAN-CHULA where NOOKuLAR development is bad but diplomacy is GOOD essept when it’s BAD, see. And the AMURKIN PEOPLE need to WRECKaNIZE this. And besides, SHO-SHEKURITY needs fixin’. ”
Republican leadership at its finest.
Didn't Robin Hood rob from the poor to give the the rich? I'm pretty sure that's how the story went...
Oh - and Happy Beltane to everyone! (To-morrow.)
GWPDA,
He's polite, his mother raised him well.
To be a liar.
Mornin' NYMary!
Damn, I'm so sleepy, but my OCD forces me to come here and make inane comments.
Oh - and Happy Beltane to everyone! (To-morrow.)
Is that the one where we're supposed to have orgies in the woods? I seem to recall something about that in The Mists of Avalon.
Robin Hood wasn't gay like the Smirk.
He shot arrows and carried a dirk.
He hid in the woods,
And stole precious goods.
"Merry Men" didn't mean circle jerk.
Boy, that JOHN TIERNEY is quite the hack. I just read that column of his and think I need a shower to get the stink of lapdog off of me...
OT, but have you seen Gallup's survey on what Americans would say if they had 15 minutes with Bush?
MisterX - you read the article? I avoided it for fear it would make me dumber.
Is that the one where we're supposed to have orgies in the woods? I seem to recall something about that in The Mists of Avalon.
NTodd, you be sure to ask Hecate that, in just those terms. I'm sure she'll be able to tell you.
With Bobo no longer on Saturdays...well, you knew this would happen?
Please take part in my nickname the new NY Times Wanktorialists Contest
I have a couple of suggestions as well.
We're expecting snow on Beltane, for what it's worth, so no naked forest orgies for me.
And on a similar note:
The new budget cuts Medicaid spending by 10B over five years and cuts taxes by 70B in the same period.
More like Dennis Moore than Robin Hood, I'd say.
Social Security is "Broken" Like Iraq Had WMD!
NYMary
Sure sounded like a Rove report. I can't believe the "Robin Hood" & "progressive" spin. Although I suspected something was up with the presidential act I saw the other night I really really didn't see this coming.
Man, just four days ago Tierney was praising Chile's pension system.
GACK!
Man, just four days ago Tierney was praising Chile's pension system.
He was just trying to be nice.
MisterX - you read the article? I avoided it for fear it would make me dumber.
NTodd
WHUH? I hain't no dumber now then I was no how afore I done readed that shit.
Nope.
Just perusing the comments at Drum's place (I didn't get past the summary of Tierney's column; I figured "Why bother?"), it seems to me we are, in one sense, back to negotiating with ourselves.
Not that Bush is that clever. But once again, it's smoke and mirrors and "he said/no, he didn't".
Bush was no more explicit than ever at the press conference, except that he clearly wants to undermine SS. That much hasn't changed. Actually, the letters at the Times this morning give a clearer picture of public reaction: people can smell this BS a mile away. Bush has been pushing this idea, and people have been actively rejecting it (not just walking away bored) since he started. Despite Tierney's cheerleading effort (and Brooks will chime in soon), nothing Bush did was any different from what he's done on the stump to friendly crowds since January.
Nothing has changed. And the bulk of the populace knows it.
On the other hand, give Dowd credit for linking Chalabi to the Iraqi ministry of oil and raising all manner of questions about it. Something tells me Dowd and Judith Miller don't run in the same social circles.
Sure sounded like a Rove report. I can't believe the "Robin Hood" & "progressive" spin.
Was this the same press conference we watched? Or did they run it through the "Bizzarolator" first?
Do you suppose this was some "talking point" distributed by the Repubs to spin this thing?
We're expecting snow on Beltane, for what it's worth, so no naked forest orgies for me.
It's fun in the snow.
I had this weird dream last night: I was driving northbound in Minnesota in a Subaru Forester through several feet of snow off the highway, and the weather report said it was 87 degrees. Then it devolved into some weird performance art stuff with Darth Vader. I am not making that up.
We're expecting snow on Beltane, for what it's worth, so no naked forest orgies for me.
NYMary
Wimp.
That's the best time.
MisterX - I stand correcteded.
performance art stuff with Darth Vader
Did it involve yams?
BlakNo1 - no yams. There was a big fracas about organizing some folding chairs--not for the audience, but for the performers. I suggested to the stupid director, who was all up in arms about how it just wasn't working, that we move a few chairs from the first straight row of chairs (see, there was a horseshoe-shaped section as well, and most of the performance happened in the middle of that so Darth could watch it better) and create several rows with 6 chairs on one side of a narrow aisle and 6 on the other, with 4 at the very back creating an enclosure around the aisle. Boundaries were very important in this performance.
I had this weird dream last night:
I'm curious as to what you "consumed" last night, NTodd.
I'll have to decide later on whether I want to try it, or avoid it.
you read the article? I avoided it for fear it would make me dumber.
I read about a paragraph. And then fired off an e-mail to the moron. I've already received the autoreply that tells me John can't respond because he gets too many e-mails.
Since I already knew this and mailed the bastard anyway, I guess that makes me a moron, too. But not as big a one as Mr. Tierney, as I WRECKaNIZE that referring to the Bush Boy as Robin Hood is completely asinine.
OT to kiki - thanks for the laugh. You nailed the Bush Boy's phony accent.
"Man, just four days ago Tierney was praising Chile's pension system."
He inferred a trend based on one data point (one happy person - maybe a real person, maybe a made up person). Then he concluded that the trend was good. And then he opined that we all can't benefit from the good trend because of the evil Democrats and liberals.
Now this is good shit.
ronin - just way too much sushi. But I always have had weird dreams, ever since I was a young lad. This one just seemed on topic since we were talking about snow and orgies.
I'm not at all curious to hear any more about this so-called dream. I just want to make sure you've eaten something before telling it - otherwise it'll come true and we'll all be very, very sorry.
He inferred a trend based on one data point (one happy person - maybe a real person, maybe a made up person). Then he concluded that the trend was good. And then he opined that we all can't benefit from the good trend because of the evil Democrats and liberals.
Now this is good shit.
Tierney is either cribbing from Friedman's notes, or the picture's a fake, and Friedman is getting an extra bite at the apple under another name.
every Tierney column turns out to be a larger pile of shit.
I just want to make sure you've eaten something before telling it - otherwise it'll come true and we'll all be very, very sorry.
Nope, I haven't even gotten out of bed yet. I could sure use some coffee...
I just want to make sure you've eaten something before telling it - otherwise it'll come true and we'll all be very, very sorry.
BWAHAHAHA!!!!
My mother used to tell me the same thing.
RMJ - Yep. Friedman it is.
Nope, I haven't even gotten out of bed yet.
Uh oh, if I walk into a room and see Anakin with a bunch of folding chairs, I'm blaming you. Especially if he starts doing "jazz hands".
Tierney is either cribbing from Friedman's notes, or the picture's a fake, and Friedman is getting an extra bite at the apple under another name.
Robert M. Jeffers
I suspect if you brought this up to them they would say that their sample constituted a majority of one. Thoreau, don't you know, old chap.
It's the paper of record playing its same old song.
Nope, I haven't even gotten out of bed yet. I could sure use some coffee...
Oh hell.
He can't handle the truth!
/Jack
Blak - nonono, he's in full Darth gear and there were no jazz hands. There was a lot of exotic dance.
Exotic dance? Did this involve feathers and/or veils? Or was Darth waving a roll of twenties in a hopeful fashion?
darth was standing stoically, menacingly as we all performed under his evil gaze. we never actually got to the dance since we were busy arranging deck chairs on the titanic, as it were. or was that the performance? it's really hard to tell.
I hereby take the title of Threadslayer from mena...
Well, folding-chair performance art is an acquired taste.
what d'ja 'spect from a paper that ignored the Holocaust? that spoke of the 'decay of times square' without mentioning they owned all the property and stood to profit from 'gentrification'--which turned the heart of new york into one big fucking antismoking neofascist hello kitty store. tieney's a coulter-faced liar ('yes! lets BLAME the dems for elederly poverty!'), but he fits the MO of the nytimes: evil and duplicitous. they's dump krugman if they could, except their subscription rate would drop 40%...
There are some great charts in section A of the Post today. At ;least the Post is showing the truth. NPR last night had nobody on that criticized the plan.
In black and white, the post shows that the Chimp's plan screws everyone making more than $20K so he can keep his goddam tax cuts for the rich.
Every congressman supporting this shit will be having a hard time in 2006.
Fuckers.
Trying to post on haloscan again!
I'm afraid I'm getting cut out of the Eschaton community -- either haloscan won't open through all the posts or (if it does) it won't accept my post -- no communication is no community!
Prior A,
At least that one got through. After I tried to reassure you last night, I had the problem you had and gave up.
I've also had it a few times this morning. I think 'dial-up' folks are getting hit by the volume (both on the net and on this corner of the net)
he steals from the pooooor...
and gives to the riiiiich....
stupid bitch!
--monty python, 'dennis moore sketch'
Stealing from the poor is hard work!
Well, folding-chair performance art is an acquired taste.
So true. So true.
Stealing from the poor is hard work!
It is because they don't have a lot to steal from them. Means you have to make it up in volume.
And remember, Bush was counting anybody who makes more than $20,000/yr as wealthy. In reality, that group includes a lot of poor people. Also, from a Machiavellian standpoint, cutting benefits for the middle class and wealthy makes sense, if your real goal is to kill the program: by making it more of a poor people's (read: welfare) program, you undermine its political support.
Posted by: Rebecca Allen, PhD on April 30, 2005 at 4:05 AM |
Now it all makes sense to me. If you can't kill it with private accounts, kill it by making it increasingly unpopular.
I'm only 33. Now I'm very concerned about my retirement. Can the democrats hold the wolves off? Now I'm begining to worry that I should have put my eggs into the Teacher's Retirement System basket. But no...I had to stick with TIAA-CREF and social security.
Goddamn Republicans!!!
NTodd: Precisely!
We are are past the point of debate here. Social Security staved off a bloody revolution in the 30s. If the Dems cower on this one, if they refuse to bleed for this cause people are going to starve. I predict there will be a bloody insurrection and heads on pikes once people actually realize they are being robbed. The Op Ed hacks at the NYC would be a good starting point.
dang it mcadder, i KNEW there was a reason i kept hanging on to that old pike in my basement!
anybody got a pike sharpener?
Holy shit! Get Nancy Grace on these fucking liars! There is nothing she likes better than going after these asshole men who lie. Just make out Social Security to be a lovely white female and loose Nancy on the story!
"She's obviously very concerned about the stress that she's been through, the stress that's been placed on her family," he said. "She is very upset."
Well, pardon me for my callousness, but her feelings should be the least of anyone's concerns at the moment. Wilbanks walked off without telling anyone where she was going, leaving behind 600 friends and family to panic, her parents to worry that she had been murdered, and the man who loved her as a suspect in her disappearance. Does that just about cover it? Oh, wait -- she also wasted hundreds of man-hours of the Duluth Police Department, the Georgia state police, the FBI, missing-persons organizations, and the media, time that could have been spent looking for missing children.
I'm sure that her family has focused mostly on her safe return and look forward to talking with her soon. However, her thoughtlessness and cruelty don't make her sympathetic in my eyes. She appears more to have a selfish streak a mile wide, and anyone involved with Ms. Wilbanks in the future should keep that in mind.
"Why does the Times like to publish liars?"
Because to them it's not a lie but an exaggeration of the truth which they are permitted cause they're opinion writers and opinions are sometimes wrong, but still allowed.
Or maybe it's because the NYT is bought and paid for by the GOP and this white house?
MYOB'
.
Had a call last night from a telemarketer trying to sell a special subscription to the New York Times in my area. I went ballistic, suggesting that he tell the Times that they can stick their editorial page, their columnists, and their ideological slant where the sun don't shine. I told them that it is a journalistic tragedy that one of the nation's great newspapers had become such a house organ for the right-wing fanatics in control in Washington and that I planned to do nothing to encourage them.
He said that he was hearing that a lot from people he was calling. Wonder if it will make any difference. This afternoon I'm going to watch pigs flying.
I sent this to the NYT;
Dear Ed.
Your apparent efforts to counter the " liberal bias " tag, with second stringers like Brooks, Bumiller, and now Tierney, are just awful. They seem to meander from one rediculous premise to the next, with occasional flights into the absurd.
How about hiring Jeff Ganon, to round out the crew.
sadly; Clayton Barclay
box 116
Addison, ME 04606
Now, can we get all this exposed? Sorry guys but the gutless media will do their "the Reds say this" and "the Blues say that" routine without ever saying what the obvious truth is: the sons of bitches are destroying Social Security for ideological reasons.
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WAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNKKKEEEERRRRRSSS!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I WANT MY MOMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just read tierney's column.
was he better when he was a metro
writer?
i don't especially care that
his politics are manipulative (what
else is new, nyt) but he just seems
so LAZY, like he's sleepwalking, or
phoned it in.
anybody know his history?
It isn't a lie. Read the comments in that posting.
Actually, it is a lie. Troll responses like norman's contain made-up bullshit. That's really all bush and the repugs have left.
Ms. Wilbanks' fiance (poor bastard) needs to run for the hills.
She is about five or six fries short of a happy meal.
"Stealing from the poor is hard work!"
Reagan Redux.
Take from the needy, give to the greedy.
Bush makes St. Ronald of the Monster Deficit look like a piker!
I don't understand people's problem with Nancy Grace.
i just read tierney's column.
was he better when he was a metro
writer?
Absolutely not. In a way, he was worse, because his pro-Republican slant was disguised as "news" when it wasn't on the editorial pages.
[I liked the column where he claims that liberals were all upset because some obscure crackpot said that Bush has a higher I.Q. than Kerry.]
Tierney is the new Brooks...and shit, we've still got the old one to deal with!
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