I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

wow


stupid haloscan.


hello....



(crickets)


Ah, but they're French!

So they're exotic! Unusual! Beguiling!

Freedom!

No, wait, that's not right.....


Gravataras well as having the same mix of cool/geeky/clueless/shy/bully/etc...

And they eat cheese!!


GravatarAtrios: Le Stalker?


GravatarDo they still have the obligatory Chipie backpacks?

(I once proposed putting a rifle's nest on our college library to take out the gaggles of French schoolkids chattering outside while we were revising.)


Gravatarfuck bush and CNN


GravatarFucking Frogs!


GravatarFucking Frogs!

Don't you mean Freedom Toads?


Gravatarhello....



(crickets)


Chirp, chirp. Hello!


GravatarFucking Frogs!
NTodd


Thanks, I'll pass.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!


GravatarDamn fucking traitor Frogs!


Gravatarmmmm....french girls.

and they rock in bed.


GravatarWhat is this crap on cspan right now?


GravatareEt ils sont fous de la façon de vivre américaine! Paradoxe!


GravatarNtodd--isn't it raining in VT?


Gravatar"Fucking Frogs!"

they're younguns, remember?

fucking tadpoles.


GravatarBut they sound so much cooler!


GravatarHere's a good line to start a conversation with the young french kids:

Bonjour, mes pieds, ils sentent du fromage.


GravatarDon't you mean Freedom Toads?

For the record, I would never Freedom Kiss a Freedom Toad unless I were sure it would turn into an American Princess.


Gravatarmmmm....french girls.

and they rock in bed.
chicago dyke


I don't know about the bed part, but I'll say that the accent is damn sexy!


Gravatarare they glued to cnn, which still has runaway bride as top story?
not to mention the #4 story is the towns anger over incident
(on the web anyway)


Gravatarmmmm....french girls.

and they rock in bed.


Pfff - overrated for sure. Want to get rocked? You need a Spanish or Italian girl.


GravatarVos enfants sont très beaux. Ils sont adoptes?
Combien pour la fillette


Gravatarfucking tadpoles.

The tads are too fast.

Ntodd--isn't it raining in VT?

Yup, that's why I'm inside being a delinquent and loitering here!


GravatarVoulez-vous couchez avec ma fromage?--Kinky Friedman


GravatarA funny one from the Onion this week:

Onion


Gravatarmmmm....french girls.

and they rock in bed.

Pfff - overrated for sure. Want to get rocked? You need a Spanish or Italian girl.
Gatchaman


WRONG,

Nothing like Thai women on discount!


GravatarWant to get rocked? You need a Spanish or Italian girl.
Gatchaman


I'm married to a Latina...now that's the shit!


GravatarWant to get rocked? You need a Spanish or Italian girl.

I think A-man has that covered.

Voulez-vous couchez avec ma fromage?

LOL!


Gravatarforget latinas, french and italian and thai women..

you wanna get rocked in bed?

go for the














older woman.






just sayin'


GravatarBonjour, enfants français. Dites vos parents, ce Président Bush est un cocksucker !


GravatarNTodd-

Je deteste le fromage francais! It's known as freedom cheese, or fromage de la liberte.


GravatarVoulez-vous couchez avec ma fromage?
brie or chedder?


Gravatarolder woman.

just sayin'
her eyes


Oh, yes. Yes.


Gravatarher eyes - how old are you?


Gravataryou wanna get rocked in bed?

go for the

older woman.

just sayin'.



hear hear.


Gravatarher eyes:
I believe a few of the gentleman on this blog have done just that. Thers, rorshach, a few others.


Gravatarun tres grand cocksucker!


GravatarWhy are Senate Democrats so afraid of conservative judicial nominees who are African Americans, Hispanics, Catholics, and women? Because these Clarence Thomas nominees threaten to split the Democratic base by aligning conservative Republicans with conservative voices in the minority community and appealing to suburban women. The Democrats need Bush to nominate conservatives to the Supreme Court whom they can caricature and vilify, and it is much harder for them to do that if Bush nominates the judicial equivalent of a Condi Rice rather than a John Ashcroft.

Conservative African-American, Hispanic, Catholic, and female judicial candidates also drive the left-wing legal groups crazy because they expose those groups as not really speaking for minorities or women. They thus undermine the moral legitimacy of those groups and drive a wedge between the left-wing leadership of those groups and the members they falsely claim to represent.

Take Janice Rogers Brown, who won reelection to her state supreme court seat with a stunning 76 percent of the vote in one of the bluest of the blue states, California. Or take Priscilla Owen, who won reelection to the Texas Supreme Court with a staggering 84 percent of the vote in Texas. It is Brown and Owen who represent mainstream opinion in this country--not the Senate Democrats who have been using the filibuster to block their confirmation to the federal bench. If Brown or Owen were nominated to the Supreme Court, the record suggests she would win the ensuing national contest for hearts and minds. Best of all for conservatives, Senate Democrats would be forced by their left-wing interest groups to go down fighting these popular minority and female nominees. At a bare minimum, Republican Senate candidates would acquire a great issue for 2006.

Thus the driving force behind the Democrats' filibuster of conservative minorities and women is political--driven by a desire to protect the party's advantage with minority and women voters and cater to left-wing interest groups. Democrats are also driven in part by their odd belief that "real" African Americans and Hispanics and women cannot be conservative.


Gravatar"Nous sommes desoles que notre president soit un idiot. Nous n'avons pas vote pour lui."


Gravatarher eyes - how old are you?



in dog years?


GravatarOK, I have a horrible cold and the drugs just kicked in, so its nap time.

Til later, moonbats.


GravatarVoulez-vous couchez avec ma fromage?



Gitchee gitchee ya ya, na na....


GravatarWhy are Senate Democrats so afraid of conservative judicial nominees who are African Americans, Hispanics, Catholics, and women?

Tell ya what: you show me which of the 206 Bush nominees who have been confirmed aren't African Americans, Hispanics, Catholics, or women, then we can talk.


GravatarActually it's quite easy to caricature and vilify a House Nigger like Condi Rice.

The question is do you have the guts to do it?


GravatarVoulez-vous couchez avec ma fromage?
brie or chedder?


Gruyere, of course.


GravatarLes enfants français, avez-vous apprécié le beau plummage et l'affichage agressif nos nos chrétiens évangéliques ?


Gravatarcocksucker par choix


Gravatarin dog years?

Sure!

OK, I have a horrible cold and the drugs just kicked in, so its nap time.

Have sweet Nyquil-induced dreams...


GravatarDid someone just take a dump in the corner?


GravatarGitchee gitchee ya ya, na na....


heeeyoooo mamalade.....





sorry. just had to sing for a moment.


Gravatarpuppets, he BEEEEG cocksuka! My pigs hungry!


GravatarDid someone just take a dump in the corner?

It was Jonah.


GravatarDid someone just take a dump in the corner?

I think The Corner always smells like that.


Gravataruh, those frogs been reported to the general?


GravatarHave sweet Nyquil-induced dreams...




oooooo ny quil (homer simpston drool)


GravatarFucking Frogs!
NTodd

Thanks, I'll pass.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Rmj, Dynamic Swami


there is something wrong with that. ask little georgie. oh, thats right he's moved onto monkeys. nevermind.

this country is so fucked. and now i've been asked to report for jury duty in the middle of a major move. first off, no matter how obvious the defendants guilt may be, there is no way i could in good conscience proclaim another guilty. (philosophically, we are all guilty). and the irony of it all, i am expected to report to Bush Avenue on June 6th. to that i say Fuck Bush!!!


GravatarDid someone just take a dump in the corner?

A rather peanut- and corn-riddled one at that.


Gravatarfeel better, flory.


GravatarDid someone just take a dump in the corner?

A rather peanut- and corn-riddled one at that.
Buzz Bomb


Sounds like a K-Lo job.


Gravatar4:00 in the far, far, west, as my norwegian MIL used to say. Time for a little nip.


GravatarI think The Corner always smells like that.


I thought I'd recognised the smell, been awhile since I went dredging in that fetid hole.


GravatarGarcon! Un petit chasseur et fromage, por favor!



I AM the Ugly American!

(Actually, I speak German. And Irish.)


Gravatarau revoir frog lovers!


Gravatarpuppets,

you are so full of shit your name should be Brown.


GravatarFortunately, the Troll Repellant Bat-Spray™ now comes in new, springfresh scent for masking fetid odors.

Pppffffffttttt!!!!


Gravatarher eyes--

Were you volunteering?

(just curious)


Gravataryou wanna get rocked in bed?

go for the older woman."

Yup. Nationality stuff is bs. It's like the old saying, judge ye not the color of a woman's skin, but the content of her purse. ($, that is...)


GravatarPrior Aelred--


nah... i was just sayin'.


Gravatarmy libertarian friend and i were just arguing, so i missed all the good stuff here, sob.

gotta run to the party now moonbats. i'll see if i can find the time to post pics later.

luv to y'all, deep and abiding hatred of all things boosh.


GravatarIf the docweasel doofus is just catching on to the "nominate wingnuts and play the race card" strategy, it's about 14 years behind the times.
-


Gravataryou wanna get rocked in bed?

go for the older woman."

Yup. Nationality stuff is bs. It's like the old saying, judge ye not the color of a woman's skin, but the content of her purse. ($, that is...)


I would be willing to carry out a comprehensive study to settle this once and for all.

No sacrifice too great for the sake of Atriot harmony.


GravatarI lived in France for awhile. One impression I had was that French teenagers are more like theones here variety than the ones I have seen anywhere else (not that I have been everywhere in the world). Not quite sure why or if my perceptions are accurate.


GravatarI always love going off to see my Swiss relatives and being on the plane with all these kids in cowboy hats, babbling in Schwyzerdytsch...


GravatarA good John...always pays.


GravatarThe problem with older women: gravity takes its toll.


Gravatari'll see if i can find the time to post pics later.

pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.


GravatarThe older I get, the more convinced I am that I was the clueless one, even though at the time I wavered between thinking I was too cool for words and hating every fiber of my being...
Would not want to be a teenager again for all the money in the world.


GravatarNot quite sure why or if my perceptions are accurate.
Ba'al
===

I can offer only anecdotal evidence, but in my opinion, they all smell about the same.


Gravatarain't nothin wrong with a little junk in the trunk...

nature, accept it.


GravatarThe problem with older women: gravity takes its toll.

When all you can get is the current Oldest Woman in the World, yeah.


GravatarI think the "puppets"-troll stinks like a cheese sandwich in a fish purse.


GravatarOne impression I had was that French teenagers are more like the ones here variety than the ones I have seen anywhere else (not that I have been everywhere in the world).
I felt that way about the French in general, at least compared with the English. Wierd.


GravatarThe problem with puppets is that they are controlled by strings.


Gravatarspeaking of older women....


GravatarEli, I am willing to be your research partner in this Academic Quest for Knowledge. I have glasses and a clipboard, so we're set.


GravatarI thought all teenagers were cool,geeky,clueless,shy bullies.


Gravatarspeaking of older women....

DAMN YOUR EYES!


GravatarThe problem with older women: gravity takes its toll.
puppets


speak for yourself, needledick.


Gravatarwatertiger-

Maybe, but methinks she is the only one with a penis in the family.


GravatarYou do realize you're going to hell, don't you, watertiger?


Gravatarthat is the problem with puppets. they have no penises.

or backbone


or brains


and the list continues.


Gravatarpuppets

We actually oppose them because they are facists like you. Clarence Thomas is not dividing the Democratic base, bring that guy into the Third Ward of Houston and he would not live long.

On a slightly different topic, you are a fine argument for abortion. You remind me of what a shame it is when siblings marry. Sometimes KILLING BABIES, as you people like to call it, is a Good Thing. (And I used the word 'people' very advisedly in your case).


Gravatarmena,

going? i thought i was the landlord.


Gravatarspeaking of older women....
Eeeewwwwww.... Why do you hate us, Watertiger?


Gravatarpuppets not only stinks, but is dead wrong, as usual. home-schoolin', it's what's for trolls. the only way repigs get minorites on board is to pay them.


GravatarThe problem with older women: gravity takes its toll.

Hahahaha! Yeah, my mother-in-law is 85. She looks great and her not insignificant boobs are still in place.

The problem with some older men?

They need Viagra, baby.

Sad really.


Gravatarthat is the problem with puppets. they have no penises.

Well you could probably get some penetration from Pinnochio, esp. if he lies as much as any generic repug.


GravatarJesus Fucking Christ watertiger, why'd you have to go and do that?


GravatarEli, I am willing to be your research partner in this Academic Quest for Knowledge. I have glasses and a clipboard, so we're set.

Please tell me you have a Sexy Labcoat? If not, I may need to apply for a grant.


GravatarI felt that way about the French in general, at least compared with the English. Wierd.

The old Franco-American love/hate relationship. Old, bickering lovers. It's cute.

Both states are insecure with their status in the world, imperial, idealistic and romantic, basically secular and classless, produce great art, film, etc. We love their food and joie de vivre, they love rock and roll and Brad Pitt.

We have more in common with them that we like to admit, and they us. What's the Statue of Liberty if not a French love letter that made this country swoon?


GravatarWell you could probably get some penetration from Pinnochio, esp. if he lies as much as any generic repug.
spinoza


yeah, if i was willing to sit on his face!


Gravatargoing? i thought i was the landlord.
watertiger


Well then, carry on!!


GravatarI would be willing to carry out a comprehensive study to settle this once and for all

I'm in - I've seen you.


GravatarWoohoo!!!


GravatarOne impression I had was that French teenagers are more like theones here variety than the ones I have seen anywhere else

Better fed, though.


GravatarI love it!

Come for the trolling--stay for the sex talk!

"Well, gee, I meant to just post and run--but they were talkin' about which kinda women were the best lays and...and..."

Yippee ti yi yay!


Gravatarspeaking of older women....
watertiger


Are you saying the Echo in question results from yodeling in the valley? Plus, I'm staying the hell away from that 'Little' modifier. Must procure.. more brain floss..
-


GravatarPlease tell me you have a Sexy Labcoat
Eli


You mean like this?


GravatarPlease tell me you have a Sexy Labcoat? If not, I may need to apply for a grant.
==

Worry not, impartially methodical one, princess seams and everything!


GravatarUm...is Beltane today or tomorrow?


GravatarYou mean like this?

I think that's a different study altogether. Puppets is desperate to get in on that one.


GravatarJesus Fucking Christ watertiger, why'd you have to go and do that?

(impish smile)


GravatarWorry not, impartially methodical one, princess seams and everything!

The what in the what now?


GravatarWhat's the Statue of Liberty if not a French love letter that made this country swoon?

Do you believe how this fucking asshole of a preznitwit and his stupid little peons in Congrss tried to slam the French because they wouldn't support this total debacle of a war?

Fuck you, georgie. Hell on earth, pardner. That's what I wish for you.


Gravatartsk tsk such unresolved anger! why so bitter and twisted, atriosians?


Gravatarokay, off to see Hitchhiker's Guide.

And I'm taking my gravity-defying breasts with me.


GravatarUm...is Beltane today or tomorrow?

If you have the right state of mind or a lot of cash, every day is Beltane.


Gravatarflory - hope you feel better soon. This has been a tough year for colds/flu.

Need to learn how to shut down our own personal mucus factory!!

SD


GravatarThe what in the what now?

Aren't you a little old to be asking that?


GravatarAnd I'm taking my gravity-defying breasts with me.

D'oh!

Lucky hitchhikers.


GravatarI kind of a Francophile, meself. But I'm partial to this bit of fun from Love and Death:

Sergeant: Imagine your loved ones conquered by Napoleon and forced to live under French rule. Do you want them to eat that rich food and those heavy sauces?
Soldiers: No...!
Sergeant: Do you want them to have soufflé every meal and croissant?

-


GravatarAnd I'm taking my gravity-defying breasts with me.

Mars bitches!


GravatarNTodd:

Beltane is tonight.

I've got a bonfire to jump over...


GravatarAren't you a little old to be asking that?

Oh, so *that's* what "princess seams" are...


Gravatarwhy so bitter and twisted, atriosians?

I dunno. Why are you so bitter and twisted? The Dark Side of The Force taking its toll on your already corrupt soul?


GravatarAnd I'm taking my gravity-defying breasts with me.
watertiger
===
Rock on Landlady!

---

The what in the what now?
Eli
==

NTodd would have gotten it.


Gravatar

Please tell me you have a Sexy Labcoat
Eli

You mean like this?


Arf!

/Arfur


GravatarAnd I'm taking my gravity-defying breasts with me.

Mars bitches!






GravatarPossibly the teenagers are Quebecois rather than French.


Gravatarwhy so bitter and twisted, atriosians?

I dunno. Why are you so bitter and twisted? The Dark Side of The Force taking its toll on your already corrupt soul?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 7:46 pm | #


heh, you guys are the ones freaking out :p

penis cracks and plays on screennames? is that what passes for snappy repartee on a librule board? I expected more :|


GravatarPossibly the teenagers are Quebecois rather than French.

Check to see if Premier Poutine is accompanying them.


Gravatarwhy so bitter and twisted

sez puppets.

You're not gettin' any, are you, little man.

So sad.


GravatarJust remember, more than a handful is useless.


Gravatarpenis cracks and plays on screennames? is that what passes for snappy repartee on a librule board? I expected more :|

then why are you still here?


Gravatar"It is Brown and Owen who represent mainstream opinion in this country."

--

Amen.

Why won't liberals just give up and admit nobody agrees with them or likes them?


GravatarYou're not gettin' any, are you, little man.

So sad.


Only thing sadder would be if he *was*.


GravatarIs there a date set for EschaCon?


Gravatarpuppets, we aren't bitter and twisted. we just don't like you.


Gravatarpenis cracks and plays on screennames

I think you need some salve for that.


Gravatarpenis cracks

Hmm, sounds like a problem with chafing to me.


GravatarLiberals, you are on the wrong sie of history.


GravatarIs there a date set for EschaCon?

Labor Day weekend, in Philly.

http://eschacon.blogspot.com


Gravatarhi Jenny from the Blog--

how is your new kitty?


GravatarYour freedom depends on men like Bush to defend it. When nobody defends your right to be anti-American, what will you do then?


Gravatarwhy so bitter and twisted, atriosians?

"Why so pale and wan, fond lover?"

But that would be like a Roundhead riffing on Cavalier poetry - naw.


GravatarVoulez-vous couchez avec ma fromage?--Kinky Friedman


He ain't Kinky, he's my governor!


GravatarYour freedom depends on men like Bush to defend it

We're fucked to the trillionth power, then.


Gravatarheh, you guys are the ones freaking out :p

I know you are, but what am I?

Your freedom depends on men like Bush to defend it. When nobody defends your right to be anti-American, what will you do then?

No, our freedom depends on men like Kerry to defend it. You know, people who actually respond to our nation's call, then commit themselves to service when they get back.


Gravatari took an extensive amount of french in school, i had it for about 6 years in middle and all through high school, and i took it for a year in college.

i've been to quebec and have never understood a word they've ever said there.

i also met up with some french people from france when i went to the islands a while back, and i understood them perfectly.

and although they probably did a lot of wincing on the inside, they were gracious enough to speak with me in their language.

unlike the folks in kaybec. they spoke only english to me because my french is/was pretty painful to the ear.


Gravatarif ever there was a guy who selected a perfect nickname it is puppet.

he/it stays right on message-like, well, a puppet.

who is pulling them strings puppetboy?
uncle karl??????


GravatarHe ain't Kinky, he's my governor!
san antone rose
==

As Kinky himself said, how hard can it be?


GravatarLiberals, you are on the wrong sie of history.

May I axe, does anyone have some mace? Trolls really seem to be flailing about today. It's really sworded.


GravatarWhen nobody defends your right to be anti-American, what will you do then?

WTF?

Been to a Bush rally lately?


GravatarThe problem with older women: gravity takes its toll.
puppets


Just this once I will break my No Troll Feeding rule: You, sir, are an idiot. You know not of what you speak. So why don't you just toddle off and have your mom make you some mac and cheese. Your poopy diaper is stinking up the joint.

Older women rock.


GravatarWhen nobody defends your right to be anti-American, what will you do then?
Freedom Is Not Free


Sounds like a certain holocaust fan needs to brush up on its Bill of Rights. Read. Enjoy. Learn stuff.
-


Gravatarwho is pulling them strings puppetboy?
Well, given the string, "puppet" is ok, but I think a better name for this troll would be tampon.


GravatarI just got my new issue of Rolling Stone [yeah, I'm old, fuck off] and I have to read this about Larry the Cable Guy:

Describing Michael Moore as "three M&M's away from holy shit!" gets a better one.
Then he does a double-take: He spots something behind him. "Aw, those are my shadows," he says, relieved. "I thought a couple black guys were sneaking up behind me." Huge laugh.


http://www.rollingstone.com/news/
story/_/id/7277749?pageid=rs.
NewsArchive&pageregion=mainRegion

Lovely.

I'm glad racist humor is popular across the god-fearing red-states.

(fake)Jesus loving fucksticks.


Gravatarpenis cracks

Hmm, sounds like a problem with chafing to me.


I recommend Jergens...


Gravataroui, oui.


GravatarThanks, Eli! For some reason I thought it was Memorial Day.

Her Eyes - Oh my. That little kitty is just blossoming. For the first few days he couldn't even lift his head to look at me and when my cat approached him, gingerly, he would just get really small. He's had such a hard time in his life that he has no fight in him and is just expecting the worst.

But this morning, as a matter of fact, he woke up and shone his big green eyes up at me in gratitude for the good food and the attention I'm heaping on him. I think every day is going to bring another small miracle.

Touching him is a mystical experience.
*


GravatarI wonder if puppets is made out of rapier machete?


Gravatari've been to quebec and have never understood a word they've ever said there.

I appears the Quebecois don't seem to be able to communicate with the French and vice versa.


Gravatarpenis cracks

Hmm, sounds like a problem with chafing to me.

I recommend Jergens...


NTodd-Well, Jergens may be ok, but I would recommend Jeff Gannon.


GravatarLiberals got the hotter actors that's for sure.
Repugs got Schwazensteroid and Ron Silver.


GravatarCarpbasman - touche!


GravatarJenny--so glad your kitty is blossoming. he needed someone just like you to care for and nurture him.

have you chosen a name yet?


GravatarI haven't found a name for him yet. He's black, very exotic looking, with large green eyes. He looks like a panther. I think he may be a Burmese.

I was toying with the name "Narayan" but, I don't know. It's kind of bulky.

If anyone has a good panther like name to suggest, I'm all ears!
*


GravatarJennyftB-

Glad to hear your cat is doing well. I may get a companion for mine, but since her previous owner declawed her, I will need to find another declawed cat to match.


Gravatarher eyes -

wow. I posted mine before I read yours. We're freakily connected sometimes.


GravatarIf anyone has a good panther like name to suggest, I'm all ears!

Bagheera?


Gravatarhow about baghera?


GravatarThere is a bit in Marjane Satrapi's Persepolis mentioning mammary gravity defiance with ten-minute localized icewater baths, on waking and on retiring. Wouldn't this give you pneumonia?


GravatarI had a black cat that reminded me of a panther. I named it Panter.


Gravatarwow. we are all eerily connected.



GravatarConservative celebs: Shannon Doherty. Bo Derek. That skank on CNN who's sucking Rush Limbaugh's dick.


GravatarStupid liberal sensitive fags talking about kitties, but making fun of abortion and the people Saddam killed.


GravatarBagheera. I have never. ever. heard that word. What the hell is it? * I kinda like it, actually.


GravatarBagheera. I have never. ever. heard that word. What the hell is it? * I kinda like it, actually.

The panther in The Jungle Book.


GravatarMoonbats - I have to say ciao. We're getting ready to start a DVD.

NTodd, RMJ - Mr. Tena took a pretty decent picture. I'll upload it and try to link it tomorrow.

So sweet dreams. (wry smile) you know the picture is the end of the fantasy. Or is it just the beginning of the real fantasy?


GravatarHey, maybe I'll name him mammary gravity defiance -- it has a certain ring to it


GravatarWe really should stay en garde for trolls, they seem to keep them pretty well staffed. Oh well, what katana guy do?


Gravatar'night Tena! have a great evening.


GravatarThe panther in The Jungle Book.

Oooh. Interesting. Yes, I'll ask him how he feels about that one. Thanks, guys.


GravatarStupid liberal sensitive fags talking about kitties, but making fun of abortion and the people Saddam killed.

1) We don't make fun of abortion. We recognize it is intensely personal and want it to be safe, rare and legal.

2) We don't make fun of the people Saddam killed. Bush, however, makes fun of the people he killed.


GravatarTouching him is a mystical experience.
*
Jenny from the ßlog •


Oh, Jenny! how wonderful.

Bagheera is the panther from Kipling's the Jungle Book.

My best kitties, apart from Cecil the maine coon, who was in a class by hinself, have all been all-black boys. Everything about them is magical. Lucky you.


Gravatar"Both states are insecure with their status in the world, imperial, idealistic and romantic, basically secular and classless, produce great art, film, etc. We love their food and joie de vivre, they love rock and roll and Brad Pitt.

We have more in common with them that we like to admit, and they us. What's the Statue of Liberty if not a French love letter that made this country swoon?"

Touche'! : )

That is too true for words. Their pride runs every bit as high as ours.

As for who the most beautiful women are, I was floored by how nice looking the women were in Kentucky while I was there for the Kentucky Derby. When you get right down to it though, I think Al Pacino summed it up best in "Scent of a Woman" when he was talking about how women were made - "God was a f*cking genius."

Just my two cents.


GravatarEnjoy, Tena!


GravatarYour freedom depends on men like Bush to defend it

So he snorts coke and goes AWOL. Yeah, we're screwed if our freedom depends on that fu$#-up.


GravatarWe really should stay en garde for trolls, they seem to keep them pretty well staffed. Oh well, what katana guy do?

Depends on whether you'd rather cut more or cutlass.

But yeah, it's probably epees to foil them as often as possible.


GravatarI'll bet that they are all shiny and glowing with youth. And smell very fresh.


-


GravatarSo Freedom: Older women with smoker's voices and laugh-lines around their eyes or younger women who scowl and talk about Henry Miller and George Sand?

Thai take-out and Miles Davis on the stereo? or pasta salad and fresh bread, with Mozart?

Which works more often?


GravatarSo sweet dreams. (wry smile) you know the picture is the end of the fantasy. Or is it just the beginning of the real fantasy?

It is just the beginning of a great adventure...


Gravatar"I had a black cat that reminded me of a panther. I named it Panter."
--spinoza

I once had a black cat and I named him Pablo. I was in college and into Picasso.

I love black cats.


GravatarAs for who the most beautiful women are, I was floored by how nice looking the women were in Kentucky while I was there for the Kentucky Derby.

Paging bigvic...


GravatarBut yeah, it's probably epees to foil them as often as possible.
Eli


I understand the thrust of your assertion, but I don't practice it parry well.


Gravatarmena -

I've never had a black cat before. This one seems to have very slow and deliberate movements, very panther-like. I wonder if that's common with the black ones in general? Or maybe it's the Burmese in him.

I do love the name Bagheera. What would I do without you peeps, anyway?!


Gravatar"go for the

older woman.

just sayin'.


hear hear.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 7:06 pm | # "

The older men should not be dismissed, either. The blush of youth is one thing, but knowledge and experience are priceless.


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Gravatarum ok.


GravatarThere is a bit in Marjane Satrapi's Persepolis mentioning mammary gravity defiance with ten-minute localized icewater baths, on waking and on retiring. Wouldn't this give you pneumonia?
wootette | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 8:04 pm | #


No, but it would make me pretty fucking crabby, there by reducing the likeliehood of access being granted.


GravatarThe older men should not be dismissed, either

word.


GravatarFreedom - Are you finished flinging poo yet?

You know, that's how apes dispute things - by flinging shit. I know that people of your low intellect think it's the height of wit and hilarity to watch monkeys throw excrement at one another, but I'm not aware of any problem, issue, or disagreement it has ever solved.

Besides, when your targets duck and dodge, the only one who ends up with shit on him is the flingee. That would be you, bro.

So perhaps you'll understand why we don't all genuflect in awe of your brilliance - we just can't stop snickering long enough at the poo you've got smeared all over your hands to muster up sufficient awe.


GravatarThe older men should not be dismissed, either

I too would hate to be dismissed. I like my miss very much.


GravatarBut yeah, it's probably epees to foil them as often as possible.
Eli


You and Carpbasman are razor-sharp tonight. I can't compete so I'll just say Fuchi Bushido! Ha!
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GravatarPaging bigvic...
Eli |

bigvic?


GravatarThere's a certain scimitarry to cutting more and foiling often. I certainly sabre a good troll bashing.


GravatarAtrios is going to France?

Do you think he'll read the Paris Business Review while he's there?

According to Bill O'Reilly the economy there has collapsed.


Gravatarmena--
Jenny--

i have two black ones. you've all seen shadow, but my other one, he is part siamese i think. he is very antisocial with the other kitties, and does NOT like having his picture taken.


Gravatarbigvic?

Kentucky Atriette.


GravatarAs for who the most beautiful women are, I was floored by how nice looking the women were in Kentucky while I was there for the Kentucky Derby.

I am a woman, so I don't know if my taste in other women counts, but some of the most gorgeous American women I have ever seen are the Cajun women from the Lafayette area--dark dark hair, flawless skin and incredibly gorgeous blue or gray or violet eyes. Suzanne Malveaux (CNN? MSNBC?) has that look. When I first moved to New Orleans, the girl who lived upstairs from me was from Lafayette and I was just in awe of how beautiful she was.


GravatarAccording to Bill O'Reilly the economy there has collapsed.

Really? They must have the mother of all booms going on, then.


Gravatarblack cats are entirely Lovecraftian to us: we suggest Kuranes, the dream-wanderer from "Iranon."


Gravatartrolls...dey cocksukas...and eat poo...

my pigs eat dem!


Gravatarbigvic?

Kentucky Atriette.
Eli |

Gotcha...


GravatarNo, but it would make me pretty fucking crabby, there by reducing the likeliehood of access being granted.
genoasail |
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GravatarPittsburgh has surprisingly attractive women. I never would have expected it, really...


GravatarLiberals got the hotter actors that's for sure.
Repugs got Schwazensteroid and Ron Silver.


Ann Coulter's boyfriend Ron Silver is on C-SPAN right now. I think I'd rather study than listen to him whine.

HoneyBear ... ONe night Hecate and I did a whole "Hot/Liberal" thing, e.g.,

George Clooney: hot, liberal
Tim Robbins: hot, liberal
Paul Newman: hot, liberal

Feel free to add to the list ...


Gravatar"yeah, if i was willing to sit on his face!
her eyes"

haha...too funny.


GravatarSuzanne Malveaux (CNN? MSNBC?) has that look.

She is beautiful. Too bad she works for CNN and the Empire.


GravatarI'm pretty sure Kathy Lee Gifford is a Republican.

And she's hot, right, Freedom?

(snicker)


Gravatarof course, ma has the most beautiful women in the world. and the most liberal.




just sayin'


Gravatar"I am a woman, so I don't know if my taste in other women counts..."

If a woman says something nice about other women, that carrys more weight than anything!


GravatarI must say that the troll were rather trident today. Stilleto, its a good thing Ted hasn't been around shilately.


GravatarHoneyBear ... ONe night Hecate and I did a whole "Hot/Liberal" thing...

For a second I thought...never mind.


Gravatar
i've been to quebec and have never understood a word they've ever said there.


Too late, but I made the Poutine connexion so it's fair. My French teacher, Mme. Odile Paget, de Paris, temporarily exiled to US Grant High School, actually sneered and then threw out of class a poor guy who'd just arrived from Quebec, from Montreal, thinking he spoke French. He was mistaken. He was shamed. He was held up to all the ridicule it is possible for a red-haired Parisienne to muster. All I remember, truly was her spitting words like 'Patois' and 'Fol' and 'Stupid'. I don't think she enjoyed his Quebecois version of la belle langue.... Moi, de Calgary, I kept my mouth shut.


Gravatari think we should keep talking cat-speak.



the trools seem to loathe it.


GravatarRon Silver was never more than a B-grade character actor.

And now he's a winger, and has Ann Coulter's dick in his mouth probably right at this minute.


Gravatarher eyes - he sounds like Larrabbee, my half-siamese-if-you-please who was born on Father's Day in 1978 and lived for twenty years. Larrabbee wasn't mean to the others, but everyone knew to keep they're distance, and show proper respect.

And they're smart.


Gravatarta pa da ka
ti pi di ki
to po do co
tu pu du cu.


GravatarI do love the name Bagheera."

come here-a, Bagheera.


GravatarKuranes - Lovely. Thanks, Kei & Yuri.


GravatarThe sheep over at the old Harrington place have long eye-lashes and supple wool.


Gravatar"Suzanne Malveaux (CNN? MSNBC?) has that look."

very hot. yum-a-licious.


GravatarFeel free to add to the list ...
Res Ipsa Loquitor


For the guys, chalk up Cameron Diaz and Susan Sarandon (also fits with the hot older women theme). And Janeane Garafalo.. mmm..
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GravatarBack to politics - what is the latest on the "Nuclear Option"? Are they going to go through with it?


GravatarYou know what kind of women I like?

I like the kind of women that will go out with ME.


Gravatarblack cats are entirely Lovecraftian to us: we suggest Kuranes, the dream-wanderer from "Iranon."
kei & yuri


In the Lovecraft story "The Rats In the Walls", there was a black cat named "N*ggerman", but that one's RIGHT out.

My old black cat was named "Portia", my newer one is "Mehitabel"...


GravatarI really shouldn't be punning, I'm just trying to shield myself from Secured Transactions. I wonder how much wingnut plate mail Atrios gets in a day. I halberd the slightest idea.


GravatarLarrabbee wasn't mean to the others, but everyone knew to keep they're distance,

my two black ones hate each other. shadow will allow all the others to step on him, eat his food, steal his bed, etc., but if the other black one even looks at him, it is "hiss, growl and spat." this in turn, has soured the other black one on all the other kitties and he just turns his nose up at them.

he is the only one, however, who will play with you and not scratch you, or bite you, at least he won't bite too hard.


Gravatarmy newer one is "Mehitabel"...
MisterX
==

Do you have a cockroach named Archy to go with?


GravatarThe birds in my backyard are hungry, even though it's spring. I keep throwing sunflower seeds on the ground for them. Of course, the squirrel join in too. I love to look out the window while I'm working and see those lovely creatures.


GravatarOT: 23:52 London. British Prime Minister Tony Blair agreed in July 2002 to the participation of the UK in the invasion of Iraq led by the United States, according to a Foreign Office memorandum leaked to the Sunday Times.

The publication of the secret document will provide more ammunition to Mr. Blair's enemies just before the legislative elections next week.

The Prime Minister and his advisors discussed the question of the invasion of Iraq on 23 July 2002 during a foreign intelligence meeting presided by Sir Richard Dearlove. The memo says "military action under consideration by Washington is now inevitable. We should, in principle, act to engage the United Kingdom in this action.

"The CDS (Admiral Michael Boyce) should inform the US military that we are studying a series of options"... Admiral Boyce should prepare all the details necessary concerning the British military contribution."


GravatarBack to politics - what is the latest on the "Nuclear Option"? Are they going to go through with it?

Unclear, but they probably will. Frist and the Evil Ones have too much face at stake now. BTW, here's the radio address Cuomo gave today on the subject.


GravatarI had a very small, impish-faced black cat that I wanted to call Puck.

Then I thought of how it might sound when I was calling her into the house.

She was called named Ella Fitzgerald instead, usually shortened to Miss Ella.


Gravatar(I once proposed putting a rifle's nest on our college library to take out the gaggles of French schoolkids chattering outside while we were revising.) pseudonymous in nc - 6:55 pm

That is so WGG!


Gravatarum ok.


GravatarOlder women, older men.

I think it was Ben Franklin who said that all cats are grey in the dark, and the older ones are more grateful.

Beltane is tomorrow, May 1. The church stole it from us for the Month of Mary and the Soviets stole it from the church for Workers Day. Find a maypole and dance!


GravatarI really shouldn't be punning, I'm just trying to shield myself from Secured Transactions. I wonder how much wingnut plate mail Atrios gets in a day. I halberd the slightest idea.

Man, there's a real opportunity to work breastworks into this thread, but I think I'll pass on it.


GravatarMy mother used to have a black cat she called Max who passed away.

She now has a second black cat, guess what she calls it?


GravatarFind a maypole and dance!

Find a parade honoring workers and march!


GravatarFind a maypole and dance!

So do we get to do it nekkid?


GravatarDo you have a cockroach named Archy to go with?
mena


But of course! My mom read me those stories when I was about ten... I still have the books right here on my shelf!

OK, dammit, I know this is long, but...

the song of mehitabel

By Don Marquis, in "archy and mehitabel," 1927


this is the song of mehitabel
of mehitabel the alley cat
as i wrote you before boss
mehitabel is a believer
in the pythagorean
theory of the transmigration
of the soul and she claims
that formerly her spirit
was incarnated in the body
of cleopatra
that was a long time ago
and one must not be
surprised if mehitabel
has forgotten some of her
more regal manners

i have had my ups and downs
but wotthehell wotthehell
yesterday sceptres and crowns
fried oysters and velvet gowns
and today i herd with bums
but wotthehell wotthehell
i wake the world from sleep
as i caper and sing and leap
when i sing my wild free tune
wotthehell wotthehell
under the blear eyed moon
i am pelted with cast off shoon
but wotthehell wotthehell

do you think that i would change
my present freedom to range
for a castle or moated grange
wotthehell wotthehell
cage me and i d go frantic
my life is so romantic
capricious and corybantic
and i m toujours gai toujours gai

i know that i am bound
for a journey down the sound
in the midst of a refuse mound
but wotthehell wotthehell
oh i should worry and fret
death and i will coquette
there s a dance in the old dame yet
toujours gai toujours gai

i once was an innocent kit
wotthehell wotthehell
with a ribbon my neck to fit
and bells tied onto it
o wotthehell wotthehell
but a maltese cat came by
with a come hither look in his eye
and a song that soared to the sky
and wotthehell wotthehell
and i followed adown the street
the pad of his rhythmical feet
o permit me again to repeat
wotthehell wotthehell

my youth i shall never forget
but there s nothing i really regret
wotthehell wotthehell
there s a dance in the old dame yet
toujours gai toujours gai

the things that i had not ought to
i do because i ve gotto
wotthehell wotthehell
and i end with my favorite motto
toujours gai toujours gai

boss sometimes i think
that our friend mehitabel
is a trifle too gay


Sorry about the space, but I really like his stuff...


GravatarHer eyes - shadow doesn't want to be lower on the totem pole than the new one. He's the new baby, Still, it sounds as though he needs protecting. When I've had similar situations, I've found that massive, ongoing doses of reassurance can help, but you gotta have the time and the inclination.

Does the new little one have relatively big paws?


GravatarMy mother used to have a black cat she called Max who passed away.

She now has a second black cat, guess what she calls it?


Snowball?


GravatarYou know what kind of women I like?

I like the kind of women that will go out with ME.
Central Scrutinizer


They do have a certain je ne sais quoi, don't they?


GravatarI want to see our Stringey, for a little black cat...


GravatarShe now has a second black cat, guess what she calls it?


carpbasman?


GravatarJenny I'm glad your new kitty is doing so well. I was going to suggest the name href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjuna">Arjuna but Bagheera is cool.


Other hot liberals:
Alec Baldwin
Bruce Springsteen
John Edwards
Susan Sarandon
Dave Matthews


GravatarSnowball?



Betamax.


Gravatardamn I fucked up the tags as usual.
Sorry.


GravatarThen I thought of how it might sound when I was calling her into the house.

I had a friend years ago that had a dog he named "digger", because he loved to dig. He ended up changing his name to Deogee (D-O-G) after an interesting encounter with some kids in his neighborhood.


GravatarOther hot liberals:

my husband


GravatarUntil a woman reaches her 30s you don't know whether you're attracted by her beauty or just her youth.


GravatarThe birds in my backyard are hungry, even though it's spring. I keep throwing sunflower seeds on the ground for them. Of course, the squirrel join in too. I love to look out the window while I'm working and see those lovely creatures.
mer |

mer, I now have American Goldfinches!!! Bright yellow critters, gorgeous.

Sitting on front porch watching/feeding birds & squirrels is my slice of heaven on earth.

SD


Gravatarcarpbasman?

Nah, that's what the father of a childhood friend used to call me.


GravatarMr. X: Actually, Lovecraft grew up with a cat named "Nigger;" he also wrote in his newsletter, the Conservative, that the great tragedy of the First World War was that the Teutonic and Anglo-Saxon races, the purest of the pure, were destroying eachother when they could be cooperating to conquer the Earth together. Of course he got swept up like Anaïs Nin in insipid anti-German "bayonet toss" nonsense, but later he really came out of it, married a nice Jewish girl named Sonia and demonstrated what she talked about as tolerance in particular and bigotry only in the abstract.


Gravatarnite bats! hugs to everyone


GravatarShe was called named Ella Fitzgerald instead, usually shortened to Miss Ella.

That before Eartha.


GravatarAlright, nose to the grindstone. Later winged lunar rodents.


GravatarSarah Deere, I wake up early now to read Eschaton--before I start to make the almighty dollar to pay the bills. You and others here make me feel it's okay to still be an American.


GravatarAlright, nose to the grindstone.

Doesn't that hurt?


GravatarSo do we get to do it nekkid?


Mais oui! Le mot juste est "skyclad."


GravatarHoneybear - Arjuna is a really fine name!

Here's an Indian (dots not feathers) poem I just found:


See the cat of the clouds, lapping on high
With flashing tongue
the moon-milk from the sky.

From Sanskrit poem by Yogesvara

*


Gravatar"I like the kind of women that will go out with ME."

Yes, the ones that find me attractive, intelligent and sexy I know have good taste. Even if they are lying.

While I like a woman with good taste, it's more important they taste good


GravatarMais oui! Le mot juste est "skyclad."

Sounds good, if that means we get to do it nekkid...


Gravatarnite her eyes.


Gravatarpie - yep, Miss Ella was 3 cats ago.

Then there was Gabby (decided she wanted to retire in calmer surroundings and left her people she'd been with 8 years to move in my place), then Hairy (who was not very smart, especially about the street), now Eartha.


GravatarJenny from the Blog, maybe your cat is part Bombay? They were deliberately "designed" to look like panthers.

I have had two: Pandora and Tabitha.

They are the most amazing kitties.


GravatarI also have a cat named Gabby.


GravatarDoes the new little one have relatively big paws?
==

Jenny, that should have been addressed to you.

And Toujours gai, misterX!


GravatarHere's an Indian (dots not feathers) poem I just found...

(im)c-a-t(mo) / b,i;l: e

eecummings


GravatarSomehow my bandwidth held up to the end of this thread so I can actually post (amazing)

I'd just like to say (from the point of view of an aging celibate male whose sexual experience is probably comparable to that of the pope) that it seems to me that any woman who makes a serious effort to look good succeeds

(As the lady said, "You've either been in the monastery too long or not long enough.")


GravatarPrior A - I think I understand why many monks brew beer...


GravatarPrior Aelred,

You are so sweet.


GravatarLiberals. You have no concept of the sacrifices needed to keep our nation free.


GravatarJesus, don't turn on CNN - "runaway bride" is still the top story. They even have a correspondent on the flight on her way home.

Why do our media hate America?


GravatarYou have no concept of the sacrifices needed to keep our nation free.

I'd love to hear you tell me more, say...over drinks?


GravatarJftB,
My first, most wonderful cat was a black cat with green eyes, whose mother was a sealpoint Siamese and whose father was...maybe...the Burmese down the block. (Morning Wild, his mother, who had just had some bliss with her companion, Husky, another sealpoint, escaped for only 20 minutes, but had a split litter of two black w/green eyes, two tiger-striped with yellow eyes, and a perfect sealpoint with blue eyes--she was a busy girl).

My kitty's name was Jude, after the Beatles song. The children of the family who gave him to me named him.

He lived 19 years, 8 months, and 1 day, until he had to be put down, for his own sake. That was on Older Daughter Soprano's second birthday. She loved him, too. She used to take naps with her head on his tummy as a pillow. He loved that and would purr her to sleep.

He also chose Mr. Soprano for me.

Words cannot express how much I loved that cat.

Your new kitten is lucky to have you, and you to have him. Hold him and pet him a lot. It'll help him live longer.


GravatarPoor runaway bride. She'll find that facing 600 wedding guests is nothing compared to dealing with the media.


GravatarFred Astaire is singing "The Way You Look Tonight" on TCM


GravatarJennifer, my earlier comment to you about your day never made it. (Helloscan is a cruel mistress or male stupidity. I'm going with the latter.)

Anyway, nice to see you.


Night, all. Have a good one.


GravatarThat's right Mr Free. Liberals have never had to whether the trauma of having their gardner called up for duty with the National Guard. If they did, they'd understand how much we've sacrificed to ensure that brown people receive punishment for their swarthiness.


Gravatarweather


Gravatar"I'd love to hear you tell me more, say...over drinks?"
--NTodd

I think we are closer to "A Boy and His Dog" than drinks. Although, I would perfer drinks.


GravatarWapo:

North Korea lashed out today at President Bush for comments he made about the nation's leader at a news conference Thursday and said the North Korean nuclear crisis will never be resolved while Bush remains in office.

Bush is "a half-baked man in terms of morality and a philistine whom we can never deal with," a Foreign Ministry spokesman said, according to North Korea's official KCNA news agency. The statement described Bush as the "world's dictator" who as president had "turned the world into a sea of blood."
[snip]
North Korea's Communist government portrays Kim as a near-deity, and the North Korean statement said it could not ignore such "slandering and cursing remarks." The statement noted that "no one can expect to hear reasonable words from Bush, once a cowboy at a ranch in Texas. His remarks often stun audiences as they reveal his utter ignorance."


GravatarSweet! A parody troll. It must be the same guy (presumably) who always uses moronic, repetitive names like "Free lover of American freedom." You should get some kind of prize, really. I can't take much more cat-talk.


GravatarAvital -

I just looked up the Bombay cat. You know, I think my un-named kitty is one of those! Same eyes and expression. It's hard to tell yet, because he's still so messed up and skinny -- when he fills out a bit it will be most interesting to see what he becomes...


GravatarYou have no concept of the sacrifices needed to keep our nation free.
Freedom Is Not Free


Hey, should we let Ba'al handle this one?

Remember, batties - Man-Thing comin' up on SciFi at the top of the hour!

Whatever knows fear.. burns at the Man-Thing's touch! Methinks ole' "Freedom's Just Fer Murkans What Thinks Like Me" would be char patties in no time flat.

Hmmm.. sacrifices.. fire.. hotties.. there's something Jungian goin' on around here. What it is, ain't exactly clear.
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GravatarTybalt, the rat-catcher and king of cats...


GravatarI think we are closer to "A Boy and His Dog" than drinks. Although, I would perfer drinks.

I wouldn't want to eat him, that's fer sher.


GravatarJftB,
When Mr. Soprano was a child, his family had a black cat named Snowball.

Also, Mr. Soprano had a black cat named Ace when he was in grad school. (Mr. Soprano was in grad school--not the cat! Ace was a terrific hunter, but not much on writing papers.)


GravatarI'd never heard of Bombay cats. Now, I really want one! But Miss Thing would pee on the carpet something terrible if she found out that she's not the only cat in the world.


GravatarThere is new Frank Rich up at NYTimes.com.


GravatarI think it's great that CNN has aired at least an hour of non-stop runaway bride coverage and hasn't even mentioned the "interrogatuion" shows the Defense Department put on for visiting politicians at Gitmo.


GravatarHmmm.. sacrifices.. fire.. hotties.. there's something Jungian goin' on around here. What it is, ain't exactly clear.


There's a man with a gun over there.
Tellin' me, I've got to beware.


GravatarSo how did Snowball react to Mr. Soprano's ducks?


Gravatarpre, per, who the hell cares when I've had three glasses of wine? Not me.


GravatarStop, French girls, what's that sound?


GravatarWho's the guy between Laura and POTUS? He looks like Leiberman, but its not....


GravatarStop, French girls, what's that sound?
John Savage


Wheels of brie are nice and round..
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GravatarTout le monde look what's going down.


GravatarStop, French girls, what's that sound?
John Savage

Wheels of brie are nice and round..


Piaf makes a lovely sound.


GravatarCSN in French?


Gravatarje ne suis pas une 'teenager', ou une ronde de brie, mais il est necessaire que je departe, maintainant. A demain, chers. Dormez-bien.

(Ou est la champagne? Ou est les peches? Donnez-moi, vite!)


GravatarI guess it's time to administer the screen cleaner once again....


Gravatari think it is the only nationality that is a verb and an adjective.

in this we can all be grateful for the verb, at least.

here's to good frenching all around


GravatarI'll be back later, with video catblogging. That's a threat and a promise.


.


Gravatarheh heh heh ... Rich:

But what's given the Schiavo case resonance beyond the Schiavo story itself is that it crystallized the bigger picture of Olympian arrogance and illiberalism on the right. The impulse that led conservatives to intervene in a family's bitter debate over a feeding tube is the same one that makes them turn a debate over a Senate rule on filibusters into a litmus test of spiritual correctness. Surely no holier-than-thou Hollywood pontificator could be harder to take than the sanctimonious Bill Frist, who, unlike Barbra Streisand, can't even sing.


Gravatarmeow


GravatarAlright, nose to the grindstone.

Doesn't that hurt?

Studying Article 9 certainly is painful.


GravatarWheels of brie are nice and round..

They're big and round,
They're all around.
They're big and round,
They're all around.


Gravatar...Bill Frist, who, unlike Barbra Streisand, can't even sing.

Stop, now what's that sound?


GravatarJenny from the ßlog •

Granted this is a bit late, but Bagheera is a nice name.

My mother is in the scout movement (she is a cub leader) and her cub name is Bagheera.

plus some photos of my beloved kittens (who I miss a lot while I am at University)

http://img89.echo.cx/img89/9004/.../ img01668zf.jpg

http://img243.echo.cx/img243/74/ ...p41300557ek.jpg

http://img106.echo.cx/img106/ 303...img017510lv.jpg

http://img119.echo.cx/img119/404.../ img01773er.jpg

hope you wonderful atrios people enjoy!


Gravatarwhy so bitter and twisted

sez puppets.

You're not gettin' any, are you, little man.

So sad.
pie | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 7:49 pm | #


Dude, I'm a musician, I get more ass than the toilet seat. Sure, _some_ are skanks, but hey, you do what you can I'm no prize pig me own self :D I'm always amazed when a girl wants to sleep with me, and the lovely women who I have deigned to give it up to a mutt like me. (like Groucho said, I don't want to belong to any club that would let me in, kinda like that).

I also have a high tolerance for getting shot down, probably in the 95% failure range, but I always beeline it for the prettiest girl in the club regardless, I've never been shy or had problem talking to girls (that's half the battle right there), I'm gregarious and slightly glib and I think kinda funny in a corny, self-deprecating way, sometimes we click, and I do thank God for that other 5% that doesn't tell me to fuck off.

I figure, every time I take a shot I increase my chances at success exponentially, as that Beautiful Mind guy said :D

Anyway I have a great girlfriend now so my whoredog days are over, but yeah, I was a hound in my younger days. (no, she's not a sock puppet)


GravatarIf you want to hurl, check out Scott Shane's mash note to strong man Bolton.

"John Bolton, the U.N. nominee, is a conservative among conservatives who has long embraced the role of contrarian."

Apparently, "contrarian" is code-speak for "kiss-up, kick-down asshole."

That's the dadburn librul NYT for ya. Funny sidenote, they've got the Florida picture that Putzmold was having a fit about, insisting that it had to be photoshopped.
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GravatarI bet the sheriff ends up hooking up with the blonde chick who kicked him in the nuts.

Yes, I'm assuming we're liveblogging the Man-Thing...


GravatarFielding ...

I was just about to put up the headline on that P.O.S.:

Never Shy, Bolton Brings a Zeal to the Table.

Eff the TIMES.


GravatarWOW

Totally off the subject here, but it just dawned on me....
If Mister George W Bush Junior now has the lowest approval ratings of any second term in the last 50 years, then that must mean his Shiavo Nite-Flite was more unpopular than a a stained blue dress.

Can we Impeach Now, Pleeeeease....


Gravatarmoonbootica,

The gray kitty has amazing eyes! I've never seen anything quite like them.


GravatarWell, hell.

Why *aren't* we liveblogging Man-Thing?


GravatarI just ran a bunch of names by the kitty and this is the one he responded to, with a tilt of his head and a look of recognition in his beautiful eyes. And the winner is......

Purusha.

He sees every single thing in the universe, but he has no eyes. Not the slightest sound, nor the faintest whisper occurring throughout the entire cosmos escapes his acute sense of hearing, but he has no ears. He is all wise, all knowing, but there's not a person around who knows too much of anything at all about him.

Maybe it's the purrrr sound in the name but he does really like it.

Soprano, what a wonderful story. Thank you so much for that.

moonbootica - Your cat pix are beautiful and inspiring, as usual!

And Hecate... "Miss Thing". HA HA!
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GravatarWhy *aren't* we liveblogging Man-Thing?

Fuck, I didn't get the memo.


GravatarCentral Scrutinizer don't let those cute eyes fool you lol she is a cheeky minx, when she does get over affectionate she usually nibbles fingers.

George and Heidi can both scale the kitchen now, since they are bigger and stronger.

George is a hoover, eats everything in site, and he wonders why he ends up feeling not very good! lol


GravatarJames (Spongedob) and the Giant (Im)Peach...

Chimpy no!!!!
Democracy si!!!!

The blue dress is nothing compared to the magic debate hump...


GravatarIf your kitty is a Bombay, prepare for a remarkable feline experience. They are incredible. They are more intrusive than most cats, but in a sweet way.

Most of them, even part Bombays, are obsessed with sparkle balls. I know many cats enjoy them, but Bombays should have a support group to deal with this. Tabitha also loves my keeshond, (like giant pomeranians) the only one of my four cats who can cope with her.


GravatarHeidi is a Lilac Burmese.


GravatarFrom an online profile of The Heap, 40s Golden Age predecessor of both Swamp Thing *and* Man Thing...

History: Baron von Emmelman was a WWI flying ace who was shot down over a swamp. Somehow he survived the crash, only to be transformed into a bog monster.

Powers/Abilities: Bog monster.


GravatarThe blue dress is nothing compared to the magic debate hump...

Or the male whore inside the White House!


GravatarI bet the sheriff ends up hooking up with the blonde chick who kicked him in the nuts.

Yes, I'm assuming we're liveblogging the Man-Thing...
Eli


I bet the sheriff hooks up with the bearded guy in the hat. Whoops, not on Bravo, so maybe not.
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GravatarBurmeses are a great breed, very affectionate and have a mellow personality.

Burmeses are very trusting cats, in fact thats why some owners don't let them out otherwise they usually end up in a van or car cause they are full of trust.

Abyssians are lovely too! different and more imperial but George (the kitten not the dummy who leads America) is a big old softy at heart!


GravatarMost of them, even part Bombays, are obsessed with sparkle balls.

A 12-step sparkle ball program! I'll put Purusha on the waiting list...


GravatarI bet the sheriff hooks up with the bearded guy in the hat. Whoops, not on Bravo, so maybe not.

What a great intro for that guy.

"Can I help you?"

"Nope. (grabs sheriff's arm, looks intense and wild) But I can help *you*."


GravatarMy stepgranddad used to breed show Burmese. Gorgeous. Looked like seals.


GravatarIs anyone else watching 'Man-Thing,' or am I the last cultural derelict here?


GravatarWell, hell, I should read the damn blog first


Gravatarmoonbootica,

Is George an Abyssinian? He's very handsome.


Eli,

Yup. The blonde and the sherriff.


GravatarOh, sweet. I am *all over* the 40-foot mummy movie on the 14th.


GravatarSatellite Recorded Checkpoint Shooting

Maybe I'm the only one who missed it, but CBS News aired a report Thursday evening, discussed here by AFP, that the fatal encounter between the vehicle taking Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena to the Baghdad airport and American soldiers at a highway checkpoint was recorded by a satellite. American investigators relied on the recording in exonerating the soldiers who fired on the speeding vehicle.

Ms. Sgrena has said that the vehicle approached the checkpoint at around 30 mph, and the soldiers fired without warning. The satellite recording apparently shows that the car was traveling in excess of 60 mph. The AFP description of the recording is ambiguous, but seems to say that the soldiers saw the vehicle when it was 137 yards away--I haven't seen any explanation of how one can tell from the recording hwen the soldiers saw the car--and opened fire when it was 46 yards away from the checkpoint. If that is correct, the car would have reached the checkpoint in around a second and a half. So it seems hard to criticize the soldiers for concluding they couldn't wait any longer for the car to start slowing down.


GravatarAnd, I baked carrot cake while here in Phoenix...lots of carrot cake. Who wants?


Gravatarpuppets -

Why the hell are you still here?!

FUCK OFF YOU ASSHOLE.


GravatarAnd, I baked carrot cake while here in Phoenix...lots of carrot cake. Who wants?

*wave frantically*


Gravatarfrank rich is good:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/0.../01rich.html? hp


GravatarCentral Scrutinizer - yep George is an Abyssinian.


Gravatarsallyh, pull up a chair!

This looks really, *really* bad.


GravatarWhy the hell are you still here?!

FUCK OFF YOU ASSHOLE.


You just be grateful that *you* don't have to be an apologist for murder and evil.


GravatarEli--lots of carrot cake for you. Hope you like cream cheese icing.

Now what the hell is this about a missing bride?


GravatarHey, I did a parody of Man-Thing for Marvel's "What The--?" comic.

It contains one of my best lines:

"Kids! Don't try this at home unless nobody's around to stop you."

Related: My friend Al Weiss won a Wizard poll for "Most Suggestively Titled Comic" with his wonderful Steelgrip Starkey and the All-Purpose Power Tool.
I congratulated him, but I said that Giant-Size Man-Thing had it beat.
He had to agree with me.


Gravatarpuppets: more fuel for your argument here.


GravatarCentral--this movie could be so bad, it's good. I need sufficient cast devourage, however.


Gravatarmoonbootica- thanks for the catblogging. I made my sig. other come in from watching TV to check them out.


GravatarI guess it's time to administer the screen cleaner once again....

Awwww, regardez le chat mignon...


GravatarBombay Cats: "These cats have the Burmese purrsonality, which means they are very laid back, friendly, intelligent, and people oriented. Some owners describe them as "lap fungus" or "velcro" because they always want to be close to their people.{ As shown above } They will get along with most dogs and other breeds of cats. Because Bombays are so highly domesticated, they will not do well outside."

Moonbootica, George and Heidi are adorable, as usual. I've never been interested in abyssians before, but George just may make me a convert.

JftB, how did you come to be acquired by Purusha?


Gravatarmaybe the bride should of run off to Iraq *shrugs*


GravatarNow what the hell is this about a missing bride?

Hey now, just because I chose *not* to marry....


Gravatarsallyh -

If you can stand it, check out the front page on CNN.com right now. The *bride* has her head covered with a ridiculously huge bright orange and royal blue blanket (how tacky).

Don't they make special head coverings just for these special occasions?


GravatarPuppets--if you'd have bothered to have read the Guardian, Le Monde and Le Figaro, you'd have gotten a very different take on the Sgrena story, one which seems to be more grounded in reality.


GravatarThis looks really, *really* bad.
Central Scrutinizer


Actually, some of the direction and camera work isn't too bad. The script is teh suX0r, however.

sallyh - glad you aren't missing it. Hiya!
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GravatarEli--lots of carrot cake for you. Hope you like cream cheese icing.

I don't think it's possible to go wrong with cream cheese anything.


GravatarI on the other hand am watching Warm Springs on HBO (Kenneth Branagh as FDR) and it's really good.


GravatarJenny--so what is this? Adult women are no longer permitted to travel of their own volition?


GravatarHey, puppets: fly off to Iraq and give us a report from the scene, you cunt.


GravatarMellish--my brother in law and I consider Saturday nights on SciFi to be a cultural event. Cultural, of course, being very loosely defined.


GravatarMan-Thing is Yul Brynner from Westworld?


GravatarOT

This could be another ugly battle...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7692.../site/newsweek/

I don't know if anyone posted on it yet since the thread is getting long in the tooth.


GravatarNew Wolcott up.


GravatarHey, is this bald guy from Kung Fu or The Mummy Returns? We could play "name that horror movie cliche." I'll start with toothless southern guy in a motorboat.
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GravatarBuckeye -

I went to a rescue place and chose a beautiful Siamese mix (also very needy) but he had to be neutered. As I was leaving the place the volunteer steered me to a frightened, hiding and starved kitty way back in the corner. My heart went out to him and I found myself saying "yes".

I don't want three cats right now so I said goodbye to Mr. Gorgeous and prayed for him to get a good home. He was adopted the next day!


GravatarCultural, of course, being very loosely defined.

Emphasis on "cult".


GravatarHalffasthero--I was reading that on TJ's blog the other day. If for NO OTHER REASON, a 13 year old should abort for health reasons. The health risks from a legal abortion as opposed to carrying a pregnancy to term in one so young.


GravatarHey, he found the other sheriff!


GravatarAre minimal. Sorry, we've been on the booze cruise for an hour and a half now.


GravatarDamn. London Independent, via Wolcott.

A damning minute leaked to a Sunday newspaper reveals that in July 2002, a few weeks after meeting George Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, Mr Blair summoned his closest aides for what amounted to a council of war. The minute reveals the head of British intelligence reported that President Bush had firmly made up his mind to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein, adding that 'the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.'


GravatarEli--you would define Saturday night SciFi viewers as a cult? Here, I thought we were just people with no lives, or without any energy to get them


GravatarAwwww, regardez le chat mignon...

Uh, monchie, as a proud feline-American, I think you'd better change that before people get the wrong idea.

How about Spanish?: "¡Awwwww, mira el gato lindo!"


GravatarAs I was leaving the place the volunteer steered me to a frightened, hiding and starved kitty way back in the corner. My heart went out to him and I found myself saying "yes".


Jenny, you're such a sweetheart.

Seriously.



Gravatarsallyh -

It's craziness. If you want some good laughs and insights go to the threads below. The whole thing is a laugh-riot, except that she did stage a kidnapping and call the police from a pay phone to report she'd been released. Not really the best way to approach a change of heart, IMO.

I hope she grows a set of balls real soon, though, 'cause she's gonna need them to get through the circus that's coming her way!


Gravatar"Halffasthero--I was reading that on TJ's blog the other day. If for NO OTHER REASON, a 13 year old should abort for health reasons."

Politics and reality are two different things. I agree with you based on what little I know but the facts surrounding this politically spell trouble for her.


GravatarHere, I thought we were just people with no lives, or without any energy to get them

Or the means to suck out those of others.


GravatarCentral S -

Thank you, kind sir. The feeling is mutual, of course...


GravatarEvening, freethinkers


GravatarThe branch is coming from the INSIDE! THE INSIDE!!!


GravatarHalffasthero--when she develops complications--more than likely in a girl her age--I hope she sues the hell out of these bastards.


GravatarPresident Bush had firmly made up his mind to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein, adding that 'the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.'


If you read Maureen Dowd today, you'll never be mad at her again.


GravatarPresident Bush had firmly made up his mind to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein, adding that 'the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.

Well now, ain't that sumpin'?


GravatarAnybody catch Tom Frank's "What's the Matter with Liberals" in this month's NY Review of Books?


Gravatar"What man would do that?"

Foreshadowing!


GravatarEli--that's the problem with us liberals. We lack that vampire trait.


Gravatar"If you read Maureen Dowd today, you'll never be mad at her again."

I always liked Maureen Dowd's position's politically.


GravatarPresident Bush had firmly made up his mind to invade Iraq and overthrow Saddam Hussein, adding that 'the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.

Well now, ain't that sumpin'?


Man, that would be devastating if it were, you know, *reported*.


GravatarEli--y'know, your play by play is better than the actual flick by a mile.


GravatarWe lack that vampire trait.

I have most of the others, tho.


GravatarJftB,

That's, good. I was just beingnosy, wondering whether you went to a shelter or he showed up at your doorstep.

My calico is mostly likely to be put down on Monday. While I have another one still, and I think he'd like to be an only for awhile, I was thinking that I'll be making a trip to the Humane Society soon. Except looking out in the back yard tonight, I think the 'signal' has gone out, and the strays, and non-strays are starting to wander in.


GravatarMaybe I'm the only one who missed it, but CBS News aired a report Thursday evening, discussed here by AFP, that the fatal encounter between the vehicle taking Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena to the Baghdad airport and American soldiers at a highway checkpoint was recorded by a satellite. American investigators relied on the recording in exonerating the soldiers who fired on the speeding vehicle.

Yeah, a satellite recorded it, so it must show what they say it shows, right?

Just like all those satellite photos of "weapons sites" and "mobile chemical weapons factories" Colin Powell showed the U.N. showed ....uh, well, actually, just a bunch of buildings and trucks, which turned out not to be what they said they were.

I guess this satellite recorded proof explains why we still haven't let the Italians take a look at the car.


GravatarRipley -

If you remember the Laverne & Shirley show, every time someone would say something disgusting, like "vomit", Lenny & Squiggy would come barrelling through the door, right on cue.

It was hilarious. And I think of this every time you make one of your perfect thread entrances.

Not that you are anything like vomit, of course...


GravatarEli--please tell me you're not averse to garlic.

One can never have too much garlic.

Okay, maybe in a margarita, but damn little else.


GravatarEli--that's the problem with us liberals. We lack that vampire trait.
sallyh | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 9:58 pm | #


Read the article in the NY Review of Books. It's devestating on the cultural tin ear of the Kerry campaign.


Gravatar(Mr. Kool-Aid has *pants* now???)


GravatarSatellite Recorded Checkpoint Shooting

Um, just a detail...there was cloudcover.


GravatarBuckeye -

I'm so sorry about your Calico. That is deeply distressing.

Maybe you could let your other one be the *only* cat for a while. It might be nice for both of you, while your heart heals?


GravatarEli--please tell me you're not averse to garlic.

One can never have too much garlic.


No, just sunlight.


GravatarI hope she grows a set of balls real soon, though, 'cause she's gonna need them to get through the circus that's coming her way!
Jenny from the ßlog


Yep, now that CoNN and company have gone into Schiavo mode, they're going to keep milking this story for way more than it's worth. If they just did the rational thing and dropped it, their poster girl Grace would look mega-stupid. Got to let her get in some more shots, dontcha know.
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Gravatar"Mr. Kool-Aid has *pants* now???)"

I thought he wore tights myself...


GravatarI always liked Maureen Dowd's position's politically.
Halffasthero | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 9:58 pm | #


I've noticed that the New York Time's editorial page at least some mixture of left and right:

Left:

Krugman
Herbert
Frank Rich

Right:

Friedman
Tierny
Brooks
Kristoff

Dowd is more or less in the center. Sometimes she nails the right. Sometimes she goes off into annoyingland.

But what the Times needs is another woman columnist, and somebody with some depth (like Barbara Ehrenreich), not another lightweight like Dowd.


GravatarDid the blonde really just say "Gosh darnit" and storm off? They *really* need to work on their G-rated swear words...


It was hilarious. And I think of this every time you make one of your perfect thread entrances.

Not that you are anything like vomit, of course...


Hallo.


GravatarEli--I confess I love sunlight. Sunlight is a wonderful thing. Regrettably, not so compatible with being a redhead. Praise the Goddess for SPF 30.


GravatarYankee Sheriff knows kung fu!


GravatarThink it's an accident that the mining (or whatever) company's logo looks a lot like a swastika?


GravatarActually, it's sort of rematkable that the French could get away with calling something the equivalent of "cute steak."


GravatarI think I need to get back to drinking. My brother in law makes kickass margaritas--I've only had 2 and can no longer feel the tip of my nose. God knows what else will go numb this evening, but I imagine my capacity to type should be severely diminished shortly.

Carrot cake's on the counter. We should probably be careful not to get so much bong water in the carpet this time.


GravatarWell, looks like you guys are headed for a very long thread this evening. Have a good one, you moonbats and moonbooticas -- I'm going to pet a kitty!


Gravatarjust going to jump in:
the edgar poe award for excellence in journalism of national or regional interest was just given to two journalists at the correspondents' dinner. went to two guys for a series on steriods in sports. can't help but think it's like giving the nobel in medicine to a guy who does tonsillectomies for a living.


Gravatarall ready been posted, I'm sure (good IPA lowers the drive to read through too many comments)...Kids, whaddaya gonna do...

a father who remembers when he was a son...


GravatarEli, in the original series, the bad guys' company was called F.A. Schist Constructiion.


GravatarDowd is more or less in the center. Sometimes she nails the right. Sometimes she goes off into annoyingland.

I agree, SWR. What really aggravates me is that she can be so dead on as to make my day brighter. Today's column had that effect on me.

She nailed not only Chalabi, but also DeLay and Bushco policy.

But then she wanders off the map and really gets screwy. Like I said the other day, I guess it depends on what the medication of the day is.


Gravatar"There's too many things alive out here."

"Yeah, and I'd like to remain one of 'em."


GravatarEli, in the original series, the bad guys' company was called F.A. Schist Constructiion.

I'll take that as a "no" then...


Gravatarthe edgar poe award for excellence in journalism of national or regional interest was just given to two journalists at the correspondents' dinner. went to two guys for a series on steriods in sports. can't help but think it's like giving the nobel in medicine to a guy who does tonsillectomies for a living.
kmc | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 10:07 pm | #


Interesting that the right was all batshit angry over the Pulitzers for photojournalism.

Photojournalists tend to be apolitical adrenaline junkies. So their natural urge is to shoot whatever they see in Iraq, even if it's the truth. Writers tend to be more idealogical. So they censor themselves.


GravatarSWR ... Which Dowd? The one on Bolton from April 27th?


GravatarI agree, SWR. What really aggravates me is that she can be so dead on as to make my day brighter. Today's column had that effect on me.


Sounds cold but if we could get her a leftist boyfriend she'd be a powerful alley.

Any way we could fix her up with Viggo Mortenson or someone like that?


GravatarHey, isn't the beefy redneck guy Gordon the Magnificent? I didn't know he was in the movin' picher business. I guess that makes Geoffrey the guy in the ear flap hat.
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Gravatar"Dowd is more or less in the center. Sometimes she nails the right. Sometimes she goes off into annoyingland."

She is about where she needs to in that case. Both parties need to be called out when the need arises. As it stands now, the Republicans (in power) have gotten too long of a free ride where criticism is concerned.

Notice I said "in power." Just go to Jole Cole (for instance) and you will see what another part of the Repub party thinks. More Repub's like that and I would not have to worry about this country going to hell in a religeous handbasket.


GravatarRes Ipsa - Well duh! There were parts of the Bushevik brain trust (cf A.B. Normal from Young Frankenstein), that had their minds up to go to war with Iraq on Dec 7 2000... before Furious George was even sworn in to office.


GravatarAny way we could fix her up with Viggo Mortenson or someone like that?

Over LJ's dead body...


GravatarI guess that makes Geoffrey the guy in the ear flap hat.

The one who just fell down in his own shit?


GravatarSWR ... Which Dowd? The one on Bolton from April 27th?
Res Ipsa Loquitor | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 10:09 pm | #


The one on Chalabi.


GravatarThe one who just fell down in his own shit?
Eli


What's the action-based equivalent of


GravatarWell, it's time to bid you a happy Walpurgisnacht and go off into a darkened cornfield and set things ablaze....


GravatarLordy.

That's enough.

Nite all.


GravatarSWR ... Which Dowd? The one on Bolton from April 27th?
Res Ipsa Loquitor | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 10:09 pm | #

The one on Chalabi.


So, *not* the one who just fell down in his own shit...


GravatarJftb,

Yes, I think that's what'll happen, Shadow will be the 'only for awhile. He's upset that I'm paying so much attention to Smudge, for which I inform him, 'yes I am, but she's dying and you're not.' And I'll have to remind him that he was a stray once too. But for right now, he'll be happy having all the lap he wants. And when it's time for another, it'll happen. I think the cats in the back yard are checking and assessing the situation right now. They'll make their move when they think the time is right. I'm a sucker and animals know it!


GravatarSeriously though the Thomas Frank article in the NY Review of books (What's the Matter with Liberals) is an absolutely must read.

He gets why the Swift Boat campaign destroyed Kerry in a way so few other people do.


GravatarLordy.

That's enough.


Can we start calling the Bushies the bad-faith-based administration?


GravatarUh-oh! Redneck in peril!


GravatarCan we start calling the Bushies the bad-faith-based administration?
Eli


How about the Bad Feith-based administration?
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GravatarHow about the Bad Feith-based administration?

That would just be redundant.


GravatarOMG, is anyone else watching the correspondents dinner? Laura Bush is skewering Dubya. She's really funny!


GravatarDowd is just right in my book. She must just climb into the rectums of everyone connected to Bush, and make hemmoroids feel comfortable. You can be certain that they all read her, but none would admit it. She doesn't miss a single point that I can think of. I consider her a real Hero. She speaks for me, that is for sure.


GravatarOMG, is anyone else watching the correspondents dinner? Laura Bush is skewering Dubya. She's really funny!


She creeps me the fuck out. Does she ever wipe that glazed over botox smile off her face?


GravatarOK, someone was dissing Kathie Lee Gifford earlier in the thread, but she does occasionally have some spine. Back in the '80s, when Kathie Lee was married to someone else, and was a 2nd tier singer on the Christian circuit, her marriage was in trouble. So it was arranged that she'd go to a famous (in Christian circles) counselor and he'd tell her and her husband how to set the marriage right.

His advice: Kathie Lee had to give up her music career and stay at home and become a mother. This was because her husband was supposed to be the breadwinner. Kathie Lee didn't go with this advice, but instead got a divorce and left the Christian circuit behind.

The counselor? None other than Mullah James Dobson, back in the days when he and Focus on the Family were HQ'ed in SoCal.

There are a lot of things about Kathie Lee Gifford that I don't like, but at bottom, she isn't entirely stupid, as she rejected the crap that the rest of the fundievangelical community has been sucking up for so many years. So at least give her that.

(Gleaned from her 1994 autobiography, which I actually read!)


GravatarOK, someone was dissing Kathie Lee Gifford earlier in the thread, but she does occasionally have some spine. Back in the '80s, when Kathie Lee was married to someone else, and was a 2nd tier singer on the Christian circuit, her marriage was in trouble. So it was arranged that she'd go to a famous (in Christian circles) counselor and he'd tell her and her husband how to set the marriage right.

Isn't she Jewish?


Gravatar(Gleaned from her 1994 autobiography, which I actually read!)

Because that was in parentheses, I can pretend I never saw it...


GravatarLaura Bush is skewering Dubya.

Too bad you don't mean literally....


GravatarLaura Bush is skewering Dubya

Women like Laura Bush are the reason I hate white women.


GravatarLaura Bush is skewering Dubya.

Too bad you don't mean literally....


Probably the only skewering that goes on in that relationship.


GravatarSeriously though the Thomas Frank article in the NY Review of books (What's the Matter with Liberals) is an absolutely must read.

He gets why the Swift Boat campaign destroyed Kerry in a way so few other people do.
SWR


Got a link, or do I have to pay a visit to the newsstand?


GravatarWomen like Laura Bush are the reason I hate white women.

Women like Laura Bush are the reason I hate women like Laura Bush.


GravatarI think we are closer to "A Boy and His Dog" than drinks. Although, I would perfer drinks.

[Jumps up and down]


GravatarGot an idea for a new SciFi movie - "Attack of the creepy guy in the Burger King mask." Oooh, scary! <Count Floyd>
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GravatarGot a link, or do I have to pay a visit to the newsstand?


Here it is.


GravatarHowdy, folks.

I'm just dropping in to blogwhore this post about one of the Neocons' current attempts to promote pre-emptive war against Iran.

I think it gives an unusually clear picture of how these folks operate.


GravatarSweet! Cheers


GravatarBuzz Bomb ...

here.


GravatarI was the one dissing Kathy Lee.

Not because she's necessarily evil, but because she's insufferable, whatever good qualities she may possess.


GravatarI'm just dropping in to blogwhore...

Are you sure you can't stay for cake?


GravatarWomen like Laura Bush are the reason I hate women like Laura Bush.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 10:28 pm | #


It's un PC to say it but she reminds me of every frigging WASPY stepford bitch in my family.

Maybe I'm pissed because I know how well her image resonates with women like my mother and aunts.

But I'd still rather be Kerry and not be President and be married to Teresa than be president and be married to that creature.


GravatarI just watched Laura's performance at the WHCAD. From the expression on Chimpy's face, I don't know that he was fully prepared for what she had to say.

Neither was Cheney.

FWIW, I just posted a blog entry at my homepage about it.

I don't really find Cedric all that funny.


GravatarDoes she ever wipe that glazed over botox smile off her face?

Not tonight she didn't. But she joked about W going to bed at 9pm and she's watching "Desperate Housewives." If those women think they're desperate, they should try living with George. When he clears brush at the ranch it's known as the Texas Chainsaw massacre. How he tried to milk the horse. Even worse it was a male horse.

She got HUGE, but nervous laughs


GravatarI just today finished What's the Matter With Kansas? and returned it to the library. Had to wait about six months for it. Frank really nails the whole bass-ackwards nature of the conservatard movement.


GravatarEvery hamlet seemed to have a son or daughter on duty in Iraq, and wartime loyalty to the commander in chief was in the air. Running through each of these issues was the sense that Bush was somehow more authentic than his challenger. In the city of Charleston, West Virginia, I was told by a conservative activist that

when you see those photos of [Bush] on his ranch down in Texas, with jeans and a cowboy hat, that's genuine. I was in Beckley when he was there a couple weeks ago, and that crowd, four thousand people, they loved the man. They loved the man. Personally... You can't manufacture that; you can't fake it. They love him. They connect with him, they think he understands them, and I think he does, too.
West Virginia had been carried by Bill Clinton, Michael Dukakis, and almost every other Democratic candidate going back to Franklin Roosevelt, but this time it went Republican by a convincing thirteen percentage points.


GravatarPeople have to let this sink in:

West Virginia had been carried by Bill Clinton, Michael Dukakis, and almost every other Democratic candidate going back to Franklin Roosevelt, but this time it went Republican by a convincing thirteen percentage points.


Kerry didn't lose because of the media. The election wasn't stolen. Kerry lost because he had a culturally tin ear.


GravatarSWR - You gotta figure that a dim bulb like GW doesn't really know the difference. Besides, as he himself revealed (several years after being "born again"), he and dear ol' Dad were still having lots of good private talks about "pussy". I'm pretty sure they weren't discussing Babs and Laura.


GravatarStuff like this is why I've always liked Tom Frank:

For the 2004 campaign, Kerry moved to the center, following the well-worn path of the corporate Democrats before him, downplaying any "liberal" economic positions that might cost him among the funders and affirming his support for the Iraq invasion even after the official justifications for that exercise had been utterly discredited. Kerry's pallid strategy offered little to motivate the party's traditional liberal and working-class base, but revulsion against Bush was assumed to be reason enough to get out and vote. And besides, such an approach was supposed to protect the Democrat from the inevitable charges of insufficient toughness.

A newcomer to American politics, after observing this strategy in action in 2004, would have been justified in believing that the Democrats were the party in power, so complacent did they seem and so unwilling were they to criticize the actual occupant of the White House. Republicans, meanwhile, were playing another game entirely. The hallmark of a "backlash conservative" is that he or she approaches politics not as a defender of the existing order or as a genteel aristocrat but as an average working person offended by the arrogance of the (liberal) upper class. The sensibility was perfectly caught during the campaign by onetime Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer, who explained it to The New York Times like this: "Joe Six-Pack doesn't understand why the world and his culture are changing and why he doesn't have a say in it."[3] These are powerful words, the sort of phrase that could once have been a slogan of the fighting, egalitarian left. Today, though, it was conservatives who claimed to be fighting for the little guy, assailing the powerful, and shrieking in outrage at the direction in which the world is irresistibly sliding.



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when you see those photos of [Bush] on his ranch down in Texas, with jeans and a cowboy hat, that's genuine.

Sorry, as a native of these parts and an ex-country dweller, Bush belongs on that ranch about as much as Jacques Chirac.


GravatarSWR - You gotta figure that a dim bulb like GW doesn't really know the difference.

George W. Bush doesn't read Shakespeare and isn't curious -- that doesn't mean he's stupid. He's not.

Bill Clinton warned liberals and intellectuals about underestimating Bush.


GravatarRe Swamp Thing:

I'm getting a serious "Deliverence/Texas Chainsaw Massacre/Carnivale" vibe.

Maybe it's the Red Stripe.


Gravatar"Maybe he is in the swamp. Maybe the swamp is in him."


GravatarTOW - she didn't really say that bit about milking a male horse, did she?

'Cause that sounds kinda like he was giving handjobs to a stallion.


GravatarCan someone with the car keys open a new thread?


Gravatarsallyh,

good evening to you. you are a class act, and much, much more.

SD


GravatarSorry, as a native of these parts and an ex-country dweller, Bush belongs on that ranch about as much as Jacques Chirac.


Why did people buy it?

Why did Bush take West Virginia by 13 percentage points and lose Connecticut?


GravatarNice work, Philalethes. How soon until we hear the mantra of EMP.. EMP.. chanted on the Sunday morning yakfests, much like WMD was in the prep phase for chimpy's last shoot-em-up?
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GravatarJennifer,
Oh yes, she said that.


GravatarSWR - Frank explained the why in his book about Kansas.

In a nutshell, people are stupid.


GravatarSorry, as a native of these parts and an ex-country dweller, Bush belongs on that ranch about as much as Jacques Chirac.

I'm thinking Jacques Cousteau.


GravatarDavid - no shit!

Sounds like Santorum's been barking up the wrong tree with his concerns about "man on dog"...man on horse is where the real action is these days!


GravatarIn a nutshell, people are stupid.
Jennifer | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 10:41 pm | #



But who's stupider, Bush who understood this and realized how to exploit it or Kerry who just didn't fucking get it?


GravatarSWR ... The NY Rev of Books article just applies the "backlash narrative" he describedin WTMWK? to current events. Fine. The problem is, what to do about it? It's very powerful.

Did you notice Kerry in that committee meeting on Bolton that went haywire for the Repukes? At the end, things got out of order. Barbara Boxer was trying to get everyone back in line. Biden is damn-near pounding the table with his fists. And Kerry was in the corner sputtering, "This is outrageous! I've never seen anything like this! This is outrageous!" I just shook my head because it was so clear that he's not a street fighter. America wants a street fighter.

Guys like Reid -- who looks and sounds like someone's granddad (i.e., unassuming and unpretentious) -- are a start...


GravatarTwo words: Stuffed Shirt.

Must. Avoid. In. 2008.


GravatarFine. The problem is, what to do about it? It's very powerful.


Frank makes it pretty clear. Stop sucking up to your big donors and move to the left on economics.

The fact that you can raise cash over the internets is also a start.


GravatarBesides, as he himself revealed (several years after being "born again"), he and dear ol' Dad were still having lots of good private talks about "pussy". I'm pretty sure they weren't discussing Babs and Laura.
Jennifer |

Jennifer, unfortunately, there are a lot of Red State (and, unfortunately Blue State, as well) men who think along these lines.

We aren't quite *real* to them yet.

SD


GravatarI was scrolling thru the early parts of this thread. Damn, missed the sex talk. Can we start round two?

And yes, Laura really did make it sound like George gave a horse a handjob. She said at the beginning he didn't know what she was going to say, and from the look on his face he didn't.
Gonna be an interesting night in the White House...


GravatarI would just like to mention that the sheriff has hooked up with the blonde who kicked him in the nuts.

Thankew.


GravatarTen U.S. soldiers killed in last 48 hours in Iraq

Saturday 30th April, 2005

Ten U.S. troops are dead as a result of bombing attacks from Thursday night through to Saturday.

At least 50 Iraqis, mostly police and Iraqi soldiers have also died as a wave of bombings have swept the war-torn country.

Four U.S. marines were killed and two others were injured when a truck carrying explosives was blown up on Thursday in Tallafar, 242 miles (390 kilometers) north of Baghdad.

Two more marines were reportedly killed by a grenade Friday near al-Deira, in Baghdad.

A U.S. soldier died when an improvised explosive device was detonated on Thursday night.

Two U.S. soldiers assigned to the 155th Brigade Combat Team, II Marine Expeditionary Force were killed Friday when a car bomb struck near Diyara. The Marines were based in Anbar province, west of Baghdad.

Also Friday, a separate car-bomb attack killed a U.S. Army soldier from the 1st Corps Support Command. Two other soldiers were wounded in the attack, which occurred north of Taji.

The three soldiers were evacuated to the theater hospital at Logistics Support Area Anaconda, where one died. The other two soldiers were being treated at the hospital.

...

Officials confirmed the 12 car bombs that exploded Friday in the capital killed at least 50 people and injured more than 100 others.

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Just sayin'.


GravatarKerry lost because he had a culturally tin ear.
SWR


Absolutely agree there, but that alone wasn't enough. Bush needed the SCLM to bring up such burning issues as fancy lunches, green tea, and what to have on your cheesesteak. They also did a mighty swell job of lending credibility to the swift boat kooks and mentioning "flip-flop" at every opportunity, while pumping up the fiction of Georgie-boy as a rootin' tootin' jes plain folks sort of feller.
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GravatarTwo words: Stuffed Shirt.

Must. Avoid. In. 2008.


Richard Cody, the acting governer of New Jersey, is a pretty liberal guy.

A couple of shock jocks insulted his wife (and her feminist activism) and he came out with something like "if I weren't governer I'd punch you in the mouth".

His popularity shot up like you wouldn't believe, even among people like my father who voted for Bush and vicerally hated Kerry.

I honestly feel lied to by Kerry and the democrats. They came out of the primaries saying "we're going to hit the Republicans back" and they didn't. They stood there like deer in the headlights when the Swift Boat attacks hit.


GravatarGonna be an interesting night in the White House...

Quite the opposite, I expect.

Unless Bulldog is sleeping over.


GravatarSD - Oh, that's a given, so that wasn't really even my point.

Bush hypocrisy and lies, as usual, were the point.


GravatarTwo words: Stuffed Shirt.

Must. Avoid. In. 2008.


Feel the Joementum.™


GravatarFrank makes it pretty clear. Stop sucking up to your big donors and move to the left on economics.

Yes, I agree. I read the book when it came out. Need more people like Reid, though, too. The right person needs to say the words. Biden is obviously problematic for many reasons, but his is the right kind of regular guy oomph.


GravatarPuppets--if you'd have bothered to have read the Guardian, Le Monde and Le Figaro, you'd have gotten a very different take on the Sgrena story, one which seems to be more grounded in reality.
sallyh | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 9:48 pm | #


I think its really sad you take the word of foreign newspapers over our own servicemen. Do you ever get over the self-hate? Do you ever get over hating America first? If you despise our country, our servicemen and our government, not to mention about 51% of our citizenry, why do you live here? honestly? Why not go to a country where you are more in tune with the America bashing and you can get it straight and undiluted?

On a side note, I have a theory about GWB's low approval rating vs. Clintons during Monicagate: since Clinton at times had high 50's approval, its evidence Republicans have a higher respect for the office and the country, no matter who is sitting there, than Dems do. Dems have still refused to accept the outcome of the election and are still pissy and whiny, whereas the Republicans are the ones who are able to indeed "MoveOn©" and give respect to the fact that whoever is elected deserves at least a modicum of respect and approval, since he is our president. The bile and anger of the Dems seems to surpass even the hatred and blind meanness they felt towards Nixon. I'm amazed you learned nothing from the election: do you not concede that the hate and disrespect the Moore/Soros/MoveOn faction directed at George Bush backfired? If instead you had taken the tack: "he did a good job after 9/11, he handled the winning of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars much better than the doomsayers at the time predicted, but now let's go in a fresh direction and retire him with respect and gratitude to Texas. I suspect this might have actually won the election for Kerry, instead of the disrespect and condescension he showed for the man, who is after all, President of the United States.

You guys let your hatred blind you to the big picture.


GravatarJust sayin'

Clearly, they're desperate! We *must* be winning!


GravatarTwo words: Stuffed Shirt.

Must. Avoid. In. 2008.


Feel that right there?

Yeah, that's a little something we call Joementum™, baby.


GravatarAbsolutely agree there, but that alone wasn't enough. Bush needed the SCLM to bring up such burning issues as fancy lunches, green tea, and what to have on your cheesesteak. They also did a mighty swell job of lending credibility to the swift boat kooks and mentioning "flip-flop" at every opportunity, while pumping up the fiction of Georgie-boy as a rootin' tootin' jes plain folks sort of feller.


All true but Kerry also ran a bad campaign. He was clueless thinking the Vietnam Vet status would get him the White House, just completely clueless.


Gravatar"Do you smell that? It is the perfume of my future."


GravatarBeen gone -- for some reason, unable
to access Haloscan -- for a couple
of hours.

What have I missed, beyond the
obvious entertaining and enlightening
stuff?


GravatarI think its really sad you take the word of foreign newspapers over our own servicemen.

I come to conclusions based on as many sources as I can.

I don't think there's an "American Truth" and a "European Truth".

Accepting one version of an event because the American military is pushing it is just gutless fucking cowardly sniveling toadying fascism.

Go shove it up your ass.


GravatarBush hypocrisy and lies, as usual, were the point.
Jennifer |

Agreed. Guess I was being my usual optimistic (unrealistic) self. You're wiser than I am/was.

SD


Gravatarhey, uh...puppets?

Go fuck yourself with your phony "respect for the office."


GravatarIf puppets closes his eyes and believes real hard, he will someday no longer be a wooden puppet and will be transformed into a real twat.


GravatarGo fuck yourself with your phony "respect for the office."


The problem is that the Democrats had too much fucking respect for the office and too much fucking respect for the troops.

Speak the truth as profanely and loudly as you can, and that Walmart shopping white trash horde of Bush voters in West Virginia will get wet between the legs for you as surely as they're wet between the legs for the Republicans.

The problem is that the Swift Boat gang hit Kerry and Kerry didn't hit back. They made him look like a loser.


GravatarSD - no wiser, just on a different page this time.


GravatarThe bile and anger of the Dems seems to surpass even the hatred and blind meanness they felt towards Nixon.

Are you talking about the Nixon who wiped his ass with the United States Constitution?


GravatarGracias!

Saturday Video Catblogging, and a heap o' gratitude gravy. Y'all rawk.
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GravatarI think its really sad you take the word of foreign newspapers over our own servicemen.

You flippin' idiot. Newspapers report the news. Servicemen shoot people, bomb things, and launch torpedoes. If I need a bunker destroyed, I'll call the Armed Forces. For news, I'll stick to newspapers. Thanks for playing.
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GravatarIf you despise our country, our servicemen and our government, not to mention about 51% of our citizenry, why do you live here? honestly?

Dude. You don't even have the power to go to the bathroom on your shift at Walmart without raising your hand and asking permission.

What makes you think you have the power to say who gets to stay in the country and who doesn't?


GravatarIf the General is still kicking around - I offer my condolences for your loss. I hope you will treasure the good times with Nala.

I always wanted to get two nearly-identical pets & name them Rosencrantz and Guildenstern. I may still do that


GravatarOn a side note, I have a theory about GWB's low approval rating vs. Clintons during Monicagate: since Clinton at times had high 50's approval, its evidence Republicans have a higher respect for the office and the country, no matter who is sitting there, than Dems do.

I have a theory, too.

That most people realized Clinton was doing a good job as preznit, even though he was a shitty husband, and people are catching on that Bush is doing a shitty job all around.


GravatarGood christ, is that little shit still here?


GravatarNice work, Philalethes. How soon until we hear the mantra of EMP.. EMP.. chanted on the Sunday morning yakfests, much like WMD was in the prep phase for chimpy's last shoot-em-up?

Thanks! That's exactly why I'm trying to spread this stuff around...I don't want to see it making it into the mainstream.

In my earlier post on the same subject, I mentioned that so far, these clowns have been rebuffed by the DHS...


Gravatarpuppets (whining) ... Stop being mean to Nixon! Stop it! Just stop it! You're being mean to the president!

Waaaaahhhhhhh!! Mommmmmmeeeeeeee!!!! They're being mean to the preznit! Make them stop! Make them stop, mommmmmmmeeeeee!


GravatarIf puppets closes his eyes and believes real hard, he will someday no longer be a wooden puppet and will be transformed into a real twat.

The Blue Fairy's going to take one look at puppets sorry ass and light a match instead...


GravatarWhy is anyone still trolling with this asshole? Hell, it is about as useless as tits on a bull. Let the troll be and they will go away for crying out loud


GravatarNYMary: Good christ, is that little shit still here?

Yep, I'm still here... pimpin' my cat.
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GravatarI bet the sheriff ends up hooking up with the blonde chick who kicked him in the nuts.

Yes, I'm assuming we're liveblogging the Man-Thing...


Well. I'm watching.

How funny is it listening to these australian actors trying to fake american accents?


GravatarHiya, JP!


GravatarIs anyone else having trouble with the fact that everyone in the Man-Thing swamp movie is Australian? Or Kiwi?


GravatarHey, JP - how's things in the new digs? All moved in and makin Curly comfy?


GravatarActually though, honestly, people who were typing "Kerry in a landslide" and who are now blaming the media or Diebold for the election are more harmfull than these right-wing idiot trolls.

Yes elections need monitoring. Yes the media sucks.

But if you can't see why Kerry lost, you're blind and self-deluding.


GravatarGot an idea for a new SciFi movie - "Attack of the creepy guy in the Burger King mask." Oooh, scary!

Have you seen that SCTV skit "Shoot for the Stars with Bill Needle"? I swear that's where O'Reilly got his "Shut up!" schtick...


GravatarAs for "bile and anger", my bottom line is that I hate liars - I couldn't really give two shits what letter follows their name. Clinton pissed me off royally when he didn't respond to the Lewinsky stuff by just saying, "that's none of your damn business."

And Bush pisses me off royally whenever he opens his mouth. If he ever tells the truth, it's because he gets tongue-tied and it slips out instead of what he meant to say.

You're the puppet of a liar. You're Bush's punk. He thinks so highly of you that he lies to you daily, and in return, you help him get away with it.

You are, in short, his bitch.


GravatarPuppets is still here?

You gotta be kidding......


GravatarHow funny is it listening to these australian actors trying to fake american accents?

*Southern* American accents. Except the Yankee Sheriff, that is.


GravatarApologies in advance, but -

Puppets: Please leave. No-one likes you. I doubt anyone here wants to hear about your life or your opinions. You have been nothing but rude while you've been here, and I'm asking you politely to leave.


Gravatarsteve simels ... Thanks again for the tune!


GravatarIf you despise our country, our servicemen and our government, not to mention about 51% of our citizenry, why do you live here? honestly?


I don't live here, honestly. It's a fucking blog you little weasel. You seem to be the only one living here.


GravatarHiya NYMary. Weather certainly suck today, didn't it?


GravatarIf instead you had taken the tack: "he did a good job after 9/11, he handled the winning of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars much better than the doomsayers at the time predicted...


Sorry puppets.


We didn't say that because it wasn't true. BTW, go fuck yourself.


GravatarNew Frank Rich column is up detailing the Republican's love affair with South Park. (Wonder what Dobson thinks?)

http://www.nytimes.com


GravatarRipley: Hey, JP - how's things in the new digs? All moved in and makin Curly comfy?

Yeah, pretty much... of course, we need to sell more DVDs to stay comfy, but we're doing okay so far. We were playing shut-ins for a couple of days, almost... afraid that if we left the place for long, Lake Kitchen would reappear, soon to be the Waterfall in N131. The disgusting repair is ostensibly in place now, though, and dishes can now be washed!
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Gravatar1.) Move to the left economically.

2.) Call for an immediate withdrawl from Iraq.

3.) Attack the Christian right. Don't coddle it.

It sounds counterintutive. Americans are very, very, very, very, very conservative people.

But it would work. Very conservative people respect bullies. Bully the right enough, and you'll win.


GravatarIs anyone else having trouble with the fact that everyone in the Man-Thing swamp movie is Australian? Or Kiwi?

Damn, I wish I'd been watching. I can pick out the diff between an Aussie and Kiwi in 2 words.


Gravatarheh. MoDo:


Now, showing survival skills that make Tom DeLay look like a piker, the resourceful Thief of Baghdad has popped back up as one of the four deputy prime ministers and the interim cabinet minister controlling the one valuable commodity in that wasteland: the second-largest oil reserves after Saudi Arabia. [Chalabi] even has a DeLay-like talent for getting relatives on the payroll: a Chalabi nephew is the new finance minister.


GravatarOf course everything is perfect here! It's America and we can do no wrong. Just like in the USSR (when it existed) everyone there knew how wonderful it was and never, ever critisized their dear leader.
Their media always praised dear leader too and never did thorough investigative stories, because there was nothing to find.
Puppets, you would have LOVED living there.


Gravatarhey, genoasail,
It did indeed. A good day to lay in bed and read, which I did, for a lot of it. But tonight we went to a nice party with smart, good people. Of course, the same snail slime is all over here. I'll attempt to ignore it.


GravatarJust like in the USSR (when it existed) everyone there knew how wonderful it was and never, ever critisized their dear leader.


They did all the time (in private).


GravatarIs anyone else having trouble with the fact that everyone in the Man-Thing swamp movie is Australian? Or Kiwi?

Um, yeah.

The swamp was nice and creepy though.


Gravatar I can pick out the diff between an Aussie and Kiwi in 2 words.

Okay, I'll bite. Which two?


GravatarRes:
Mon plaisir!!!!


GravatarPuppets, you would have LOVED living there.

And we would have loved for him to live there as well...


GravatarI don't think Kerry was all that bad a candidate. The real thing that swung the election was that the media decided that Bush could lie with impunity. Given that and incumbency, I think Kerry came about as close as it is possible in our fucked-up republic as it may have been possible to come. That's what's really frightening. (Though I agree he should have fought back better in August.)

But post-mortems only get you so far. What can we build on? For one thing, we need to build on the energized base of new volunteers that pulled off the overall Democratic wins in the state races. Also, we need to fight to keep the energy of the small donations, which was an amazing positive story of 04.

Not into feeling negative tonight, really.


GravatarOkay, I'll bite. Which two?

Any two. I'm wicked good with accents, although it's an underappreciated skill and most people don't believe me at first. Too bad I never bet them money....


GravatarDamn, those are some lightning-ass credits there.


GravatarAnd we would have loved for him to live there as well...
Eli | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 11:13 pm | #


Has anybody read about how, during Stalin's purges, people listening to his speaches were all terrified to be the first to stop applauding?

It meant a possible trip to the gulag.

So politburo members would stand there clapping, clapping, clapping until they dropped from exaustation.


GravatarWow.

Did anyone else notice how fast the credits rolled?

6-7 seconds tops.


GravatarThey did all the time (in private).

Sure, but if they said it in public they were called traitors, or were arrested and disappeared. That's where we're headed, with help from people like out trolls.


GravatarMoDo is on c-span2 now, with Alterman et al.


Gravataroh, jeffraham, your catblog is loverly.


GravatarWhat can we build on? For one thing, we need to build on the energized base of new volunteers that pulled off the overall Democratic wins in the state races.

Fundraising over the internets is a big start. It let's you free yourself from the economically conservative Democratic fat cat base.


GravatarAny two. I'm wicked good with accents, although it's an underappreciated skill and most people don't believe me at first.

I know how to teach people Scottish acccents!

Remember that any Scotsman always has liquor on his breath while he's trying to weasel out of a check.


Gravatarpeople like our trolls, I meant.


GravatarSure, but if they said it in public they were called traitors, or were arrested and disappeared. That's where we're headed, with help from people like out trolls.


Most Russians I meet are sort of likeably smart and cynical. None of them have that dumbass credulous quality that so many 'Merkens have.


GravatarNTodd, you'd shudder at the sheer ugliness of my accent.


GravatarRemember that any Scotsman always has liquor on his breath while he's trying to weasel out of a check.

Anyone remember the Monty Python sketch about the famous Scottish poet whose poems were all either requests to loan him money or excuses for not being able to pay it back?


GravatarNTodd, you'd shudder at the sheer ugliness of my accent.
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 11:18 pm | #



My WASP ex girlfriend from elite Massachussetts liberal land never, ever, ever, ever, ever got tired of making fun of my Jersey accent. Ever. And it's not even that thick.

When I used to live in Seattle and people would find out where I was from the highest compliment they thought they could pay me was "well you don't have that accent".

Maybe they were just being nice.


Gravatar"Can you lend me fifty pounds to mend the shed?"


GravatarMODO needs a lefty boyfriend?

"I will kiss the girl from Venus, for science."


GravatarFundraising over the internets is a big start. It let's you free yourself from the economically conservative Democratic fat cat base

Yup. And that's what this noise about regulating the money raised online for campaigns, especially over blogs, is really all about.


GravatarMODO needs a lefty boyfriend?


Yeah. It's obvious she's really into writing about lightweight personal shit.

Fix her up with Viggo Mortenson or George Clooney and she's ours, forever.


GravatarYep.


GravatarSWR,
I've got all the flatess of your midwestern vowels combined with a Long Islandish nasal twang. And I swear like a Jersey girl. It's a bad combination.

You'll have to wait until my mic comes. Then you'll get it in the podcast. Ugh.


GravatarVia Wolcott,

Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy...

The Defence Secretary said that the US had already begun "spikes of activity" to put pressure on the regime. No decisions had been taken, but he thought the most likely timing in US minds for military action to begin was January, with the timeline beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections.


Classified British government memo, dated 23 July 2002.

Holy fucking shit.


GravatarGood evening Freethinkers.

Cheers,


GravatarNot into feeling negative tonight, really.
Thersites


Me neither. Up for a little hackeysack?


GravatarSWR,
I've got all the flatess of your midwestern vowels combined with a Long Islandish nasal twang. And I swear like a Jersey girl. It's a bad combination.


I sound exactly the way Ray Liotta did in Goodfellas.


GravatarFred Astaire is singing "The Way You Look Tonight" on TCM
GWPDA, Irate Scholar


You and I have the same great taste in movies!

I simply love Fred. My favorite song is from Follow the Fleet: Let's Face the Music and Dance by Irving Berlin

*sigh*


GravatarShift change!


GravatarUp for a little hackeysack?

Wait, hold on....

(Inhales entire bong)

Kewl... up!


GravatarBut it would work. Very conservative people respect bullies. Bully the right enough, and you'll win.
SWR


It makes sense. Part of the reason the Kerry campaign seemed so damned clueless at times was that the Bush campaign struck right at Kerry's strong points.

Altar boy and church goer? Anti-religious and subject to possible excommunication.

Hunter and NRA member? Out of control liberal who wants to take your guns.

War hero? We all know what happened there.

The right wing is just as vulnerable on religion. They've convinced themselves they're invulnerable on it. IMO a good, strong, LOUD campaign emphasizing "You don't represent me when it comes to religion" would be effective because they aren't prepared to fight the battle on those grounds.
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GravatarYup. And that's what this noise about regulating the money raised online for campaigns, especially over blogs, is really all about.
Thersites


Ding, ding, ding!

I believe we have a winner!


GravatarCheers,

Hey, Ted Smith!


GravatarWhen I used to live in Seattle and people would find out where I was from the highest compliment they thought they could pay me was "well you don't have that accent".

I talked with a woman in Calif. and she said, "You're in Chicago? You don't have a weird accent".

A lot of people tell me I sound Canadian. I don't get it...


GravatarI sound exactly the way Ray Liotta did in Goodfellas.
SWR


See I love that. But then, Thers is from Queens, so what do I know?


GravatarMost Russians I meet are sort of likeably smart and cynical. None of them have that dumbass credulous quality that so many 'Merkens have.

I go to school with this Russian kid who I nicknamed "The Liberal Karl Rove." He is smart, cynical, and sort of diabolical. He has a greater mastery of history and politics than anyone I've ever known. Whoever is running for president in 2008 should hire him NOW.


GravatarIt makes sense. Part of the reason the Kerry campaign seemed so damned clueless at times was that the Bush campaign struck right at Kerry's strong points.


You have no idea how many pro-Bush yuppies I've knocked off balance simply by saying "OH FUCK. You're going to vote for a fucking born again Christian?"


GravatarI grew up in NYC, and my mother sounds like Laverne, yet I seem to have no accent whatsoever. I can't even put on a Noo Yawk accent, although I can do a pretty fair Cliff Clavin...


GravatarSWR: I sound exactly the way Ray Liotta did in Goodfellas.

As those who will soon receive the Curly DVDs will soon discover, I sound exactly like I type -- Eastern Kentucky Hillbilly.
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GravatarRipley,
A lot of Chicagoans have a really weird thing with that A--sounds almost like an O. Chicohgo.


GravatarThers is from Queens, so what do I know?


His parents are Gay?

(Not that there's anything wrong with that.)


GravatarOkay, I'll bite. Which two?

'Yes' and 'no' are giveaways. For a Kiwi, they're 'yiss' and 'nye'. Completely different from the Aussie ones, and closer to the South African accent in some ways.


GravatarI talked with a woman in Calif. and she said, "You're in Chicago? You don't have a weird accent".


The new guy on Law and Order with his Chicago accent sounds pretty weird to be a NYC cop.


GravatarSee I love that. But then, Thers is from Queens, so what do I know?

What 'hood in Queens?


GravatarThe right wing is just as vulnerable on religion. They've convinced themselves they're invulnerable on it. IMO a good, strong, LOUD campaign emphasizing "You don't represent me when it comes to religion" would be effective because they aren't prepared to fight the battle on those grounds.

How about being fucking "tough on terror" for attacking the Republicans on their strengths? I think if Kerry had hammered on that a little harder, he would have kicked Bush's ass, connecting with the people or no.


GravatarPuppets--if you'd have bothered to have read the Guardian, Le Monde and Le Figaro, you'd have gotten a very different take on the Sgrena story, one which seems to be more grounded in reality.
sallyh | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 9:48 pm | #


I think its really sad you take the word of foreign newspapers over our own servicemen. Do you ever get over the self-hate? Do you ever get over hating America first? If you despise our country, our servicemen and our government, not to mention about 51% of our citizenry, why do you live here? honestly? Why not go to a country where you are more in tune with the America bashing and you can get it straight and undiluted?

On a side note, I have a theory about GWB's low approval rating vs. Clintons during Monicagate: since Clinton at times had high 50's approval, its evidence Republicans have a higher respect for the office and the country, no matter who is sitting there, than Dems do. Dems have still refused to accept the outcome of the election and are still pissy and whiny, whereas the Republicans are the ones who are able to indeed "MoveOn©" and give respect to the fact that whoever is elected deserves at least a modicum of respect and approval, since he is our president. The bile and anger of the Dems seems to surpass even the hatred and blind meanness they felt towards Nixon. I'm amazed you learned nothing from the election: do you not concede that the hate and disrespect the Moore/Soros/MoveOn faction directed at George Bush backfired? If instead you had taken the tack: "he did a good job after 9/11, he handled the winning of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars much better than the doomsayers at the time predicted, but now let's go in a fresh direction and retire him with respect and gratitude to Texas. I suspect this might have actually won the election for Kerry, instead of the disrespect and condescension he showed for the man, who is after all, President of the United States.

You guys let your hatred blind you to the big picture.


GravatarWhy *aren't* we liveblogging Man-Thing?
Eli


Is it related to Mansquito?


GravatarI think if Kerry had hammered on that a little harder, he would have kicked Bush's ass, connecting with the people or no.


Kerry had to humiliate Bush, make him look like a loser. I remember before 9/11 that's the image most people had of Bush. I remember people speculating about how Bush seemed "gay".


GravatarJP, I was driving thru KY once and thought about stopping to see my sister.

I stopped in a small, country store and said, "How do I get to Vers-eye from here"?

"You mean Versayles?"

"Uhhh, yeah..."

I felt kind of dumb, not knowing how to pronounce the name of an American city, even if it was a French name.


GravatarEvening, free Moonbats,

Talking accents here are we?


GravatarHiya, vicula! Didja see where someone was talking about how beautiful Kentucky women are?


GravatarI think if Kerry had hammered on that a little harder, he would have kicked Bush's ass, connecting with the people or no.


During the RNC protests, this yuppie Republican types were snearing at all of the little hippies with stuff like "oh I guess you don't have a job".

This big black guy just walked up to them and said "yeah faggot. Come one let's go."

They literally ran. I mean fucking bolted down the sidewalk.

Kerry needed to be that big black guy. He wasn't.


GravatarI think if Kerry had hammered on that a little harder, he would have kicked Bush's ass, connecting with the people or no.

The one who would have kicked Bush's ass was Dean. And what's more, that motherfucker knew it. Dean is not afraid. That scared the shit out of Bush and Rove.


GravatarKerry needed to be that big black guy. He wasn't.

Maybe we can *draft* that guy.


GravatarJust read bobo's article for tomorrow.

He claims Reid offered to allow the SUPREME COURT nominations go through as part of the "compromise offer", not just some of the current crop of wack jobs.

Like many of us here, especially the women, I viewed Reid with great suspicion at the beginning, but have been impressed to date and admitted so.

But if bobo's source is correct,
I'm gonna go ape shit!!!!!!!!!


GravatarDean is not afraid. That scared the shit out of Bush and Rove.


Dean lost because he got scared and complacent in Iowa.

The moment I knew he would lost is when Sharpton came on with that stupid "How many blacks do you have in your cabinet" remark and Dean looked like the proverbial deer in the headlights.

He got scared when he thought he could win.


GravatarJohn Dean has an overall excellent analysis of Plame, and said that Judge Hogan, chief judge of the district court that upheld the Miller/Cooper contempt judgement, recently upheld by the full appeals court, filed an affadavit, sealed, along with his decision, its contents known only to him and Fitzpatrick. Dean knows Hogan and said he was very conservative temperament-wise, and that the only hint that the judge has given was to say that in the course of the investigation the focus shifted, and that Miller and Cooper could be important witnesses.

From the panel that just now ended on c-span2.


GravatarThers is Bayside, Res. You?


GravatarBut if bobo's source is correct,
I'm gonna go ape shit!!!!!!!!!


I dunno, it would be a pretty serious breach of precedent for Bobo to be right about something.

I'm a little unclear how offering someone more than they asked for really constitutes a compromise, but then, I'm only a psychiatrist.


Gravatarbwa ha haaa! my mom is 3ft away from me and dosint know im on the same blog that she is!!!!


GravatarDean lost because he got scared and complacent in Iowa.

SWR, I respectfully disagee. Dean lost in IA b/c the corporate/consultant dems were scared he'd go left and b/c BushCo(TM) was just scared. So they painted him as a "nut" with the ever-present help of the SCLM.


GravatarFitzgerald


GravatarKerry needed to be that big black guy. He wasn't.

(Is Mr. T a Democrat? *Everyone* loves Mr. T!)


GravatarMaybe we can *draft* that guy.
Eli | Email | Homepage | 04.30.05 - 11:33 pm | #


You know when Clinton won the primaries?

Remember in 1992 in New York when Jerry Brown was making accusations about Hillary and Clinton was like "don't go jumping on my wife" and he looked as if he was going to punch Brown in the mouth?

That's why the Republicans hate Clinton so much. He's a smooth, oily politician but underneath it all you know he's not a loser.

Kerry came across like a fucking loser. That salute at the convention made him look like the band dork who gets his ass kicked at recess.


GravatarWe just recognized the 7-11 in Albuquerque (as shown on CNN} that the Runaway Bride made her phone call from.

Poor thing. I can just imagine walking out of that bus station and looking around. Too bad she didn't have more money, she was soo close to Central Ave and a lot of cheap seedy motels. I lived in one for about a month. It would have been an experience she would have never forgotten. I don't reget it.

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GravatarRipley,

I didn't know there was a Versailles KY but I made a similar mistake asking directory assistance for a number in Versey Indianna. Hahaha. The didn't have one of those cities.


GravatarDean is not presidential. A lot fire, spunk, and smarts--but not presidential. Kerry beat his ass on poise, confidence and "looking-presidential."


GravatarSo is it going to be Spitzer and Clinton in 2008?


GravatarWell, I sound like I swallowed a dictionary: what does that mean?

As I understand the accent thing: there is a little crescent that extends throught parts of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa where there really is no accent. Northern Michiganders are recognizable as are Southerners.


GravatarI'm trying some different for photos.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums.../ werefucked.jpg


Gravatar*Everyone* loves Mr. T!

I pity the fool who doesn't.


GravatarDean lost because he got scared and complacent in Iowa.

SWR, I respectfully disagee. Dean lost in IA b/c the corporate/consultant dems were scared he'd go left and b/c BushCo(TM) was just scared. So they painted him as a "nut" with the ever-present help of the SCLM.


Dean needed to very politely tell Sharpton something like:

"Al. I'm fully in support of hiring minorities but there are like three fucking black people in Vermont so don't be an idiot. And oh yeah, how much did the Republicans pay you to say that?"


GravatarThers is Bayside, Res. You?

NYMary ... I'm in Liberal Elitist Manhattan, but Not-Mister-Res lives on the border of Woodside and Jackson Heights, so I am in Queens often.


Gravatar I was driving thru KY once

Yeah, I did that too, once.

It was really fucking hard to get any traction.


Gravatarhiya spawn.

Behave yourself or we'll tattle.


GravatarI've rec'd 2 e-mails from Ken Mehlman in less than a week.

Why are they pushing so hard for Judge Brown in CA? Sounds like they're trying to push some judicial activism in the blue states.


GravatarSWR ... LOL!!!!!!


GravatarIt works altho I don't really the setup.


GravatarDWD-you're right. When we lived in CA, everyone w