I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Nailed it.
I can't think of anything to say.
Linky no worky.
Fix that link!
It's blogger. Blogger hates Atrios almost as much as it hates me.
Choice quote from poorman's comments:
...why don’t we try to engage the wingnuts?
I can answer that question: it’s pointless.
Please remember that next time you're tempted to respond to one of the many moronic brownshirt fucks here. They. Don't. Care. What. You. Think.
Why should you?
One can engage a wingnut. It can be fun and a way to pass the time.
Excellent take.
Of course the question he should be asking is, "Why do we always lose against the "wingnuts". Why don't people like us?"
LOL!
Completely OT, but here's what I hate about watching horseracing on "general interest" TV: I don't give a shit about the heartwarming "backstory" of Afleet Alex. All I care about is: can the horse win? Everything else is pure fucking bullshit.
I also like the way the major networks show the payouts long after they're posted, as almost an afterthought. Yeah, nobody watching horse racing cares about the payout - it's all about the pure sport.
Avestus - always?
Completely OT, but here's what I hate about watching horseracing on "general interest" TV
Also, they can't give the infield crowd nearly enough coverage. There are at least 4 hours of solid reality television programming in there (I'm picturing something like MTV "truelife"), and it's just being left to wither on the vine.
Not that I'm jealous because I missed a chance to go to the Derby this year...
One can engage a wingnut. It can be fun and a way to pass the time.
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Except, as the Poorman points out, when you cite a fact, they cite passion. I remember arguing with someone who didn't believe the government should provide roads. I mentioned that I didn't mind paying taxes when they went for schools and roads and the like. She responded, yes you do. And I said no, I really, really don't mind paying taxes. And she said yes you do. Swear to goddess, that was a real conversation. Why bother.
Avestus - always?
NTodd
There you go again, NTodd...trying to be "nuanced."
Of course the qu--
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QL in NY, yes, there is that problem. Also the problem of wingnuts hopping from argument to argument while I chase them single-mindedly. But it can still be fun and interesting. Wingnut-watching with binoculars.
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You're on a roll in Iraq, too.
Do you walk down the street these days mumbling under your breath a lot?
"Turning the corner...turning the corner...turning the corner..."
There you go again, NTodd...trying to be "nuanced."
Shit, I'm ALWAYS doing that!
*Sigh* This is far too true, far too true.
I keep coming back to one of my father's co-workers. This guy was wingnut central, though not as bad as many. This guy actually admitted and acknowledged Bush's lies, deceits, and faults. But what it came down to, over and over again, was that Bush was a good Christian. That's all it took!
I doubt we've seen the worst of it. As the dems keep thinking that the answer is to praise god at every chance, the further away we get from a system that protects minority interests. I keep thinking about the UK and how even the Tories sneered at mentioning god.
helas!
That's (2:54) to our friend the winner, of course, haloscan disappeared my cut'n'paste.
That's... weird.
You're on a roll in Iraq, too.
Of course, like all the other brownshirts, he's nowhere fucking near Iraq, and never will be.
He'll be more than happy to spit on any returning vet who disagrees with him, though... just watch!
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq's leaders reached a deal on contested cabinet posts on Saturday to break months of deadlock, agreeing on a Sunni Arab defense minister to combat insurgents who have launched a blitz of bomb attacks over the past week.
Suicide bombers struck again in the heart of Baghdad, targeting a foreign civilian security convoy at a busy intersection. U.S. officials said two suicide car bombs exploded beside the convoy, killing 22 people including two Americans.
At least two of the security convoy's vehicles were reduced to smoldering wrecks, and black smoke billowed into the sky.
It's called "CIVIL WAR" folks, but the the Bushies and their minions have made sure the press never mentions the "C" word. Why? Because their whole rational for keeping US troops there, and thus US influence in the Middle East, was if they leave Itaq civil war will break out. Well too late, it already has.....
There's no point in arguing, because these people listen to Fox, and they have given a rationalization/spin for every obvious corruption/failure around us.
I only say "You're believing the wrong people. The longer it takes you to catch on, the bigger the fool you are"...
There you go again, NTodd...trying to be "nuanced."
Shit, I'm ALWAYS doing that!
You should adopt my new phiolsophy: neonuance.
You know, speaking of "nuance," I am struck by Houston Rockets fans in Houston. I have been completely floored by how nuanced these people are being in their defense of Jeff Van Gundy. They've also been quite the champion for free speech rights. Yet, given that Dems only got about 40% of the vote in this town, and I am assuming that there are probably more Republican sports fans than Democrat, I have to wonder why Kerry's "nuance" was sneer-worthy.
I suspect its because most people have their heads firmly up their ass until something happens to them. It's like owning wild animals and being surprised when one of them ended up eating you: no ability to see other people's points of view.
I hope he's wrong that wingnuts can't be cured. But I wonder what it takes? I'd love to see a study of people who used to be wingnuts and who recovered. At least until they find a wingnut gene, I'll hold out hope.
Nuance? Is that anything like peeance and freeance?
Nuance? Is that anything like peeance and freeance?
No, that's the old nuance, or oldance. You need to follow the precepts of neonuance, my exciting new philosophy.
No, that's the old nuance, or oldance. You need to follow the precepts of neonuance, my exciting new philosophy.
I see. Guess I'm just an oldancin' fool.
Sweet Jumbo Jesus, that LittleGeneva site is *ahem* interesting.
I hope he's wrong, too, Hecate - I'd hate to think we have to keep fighting these hordes of wackadoos instead of being able to lead them into the light - and I mean the light of reason, not the light Kurtz tried to theologize about.
The only cure for freeperism is for them to reap the fruits of their actions.
And even that probably won't work, because in their tiny little minds they'll somehow manage to twist the reality and convince themselves that it's all the "liberals" fault that they voted for the guy who raped the Treasury and sent us all into a depression.
Sadly, the only cure for the stupidity of many of these folks is death.
regardless of how nice we are and how many ponies we offer, we could no more turn wingnuts into rational creatures than we could turn gay people straight.
Has anybody told Holden what he's been up to with ponies?
not the light Kurtz tried to theologize about.
You mean the light Kurtz saw in Heart of Darkness?
My senator -- Chuck Schumer -- did something good this AM. Called on Fredo to take responsibility for Repuke wingnuts' extremist statements and calls for actions. See here by way of John A.
Not that Fredo will take responsibility. But I'm glad Schumer called for him to do it.
"...turning the corner...turning the corner...turning the corner..."
You need to follow the precepts of neonuance, my exciting new philosophy.
Neonuance....pshaw....that's sooo last century.
Post-postance is the new nuance.
Hecate: there are 2 cures to wingnutia. The first is a conscience that allows them to see outside of themselves and consider an outside point of view, while also being intellectually honest about the implications of what they ponder. The second is for Fox News and Rush Limbaugh to simply announce they are frauds. But as that will never happen, we have to focus on the first. My mother-in-law is kinda wingnutty on principle, except on an issue-by-issue basis, she actually wouldn't be nutty. She's just scared about the truth. Not her fault really; she had a very sheltered life. But I remember when the Supreme Court invalidated Texas's sodomy statute, she was very mad. When I explained what sodomy actually was, that it involved oral sex, she suddenly became very pro-sodomy! Who knew she liked to suck cock?!?! (I say "suck cock" here rather than "get eaten out" because her reaction to the truth was "It's illegal to give blow jobs?!?! Oh my god!" 
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Just tell freepers, "Get thee to a nunnery".
Cure for wingnuts: get their moms to shut off the electricity.
Wingnuttery is a cult. They can't be cured, only deprogrammed.
Oh, come on. I love messing with wingnuts. Granted, it doesn't change anything, but watching their little brains convulse when you throw logic, facts and reason at them is fun. It's a kind of mental gymnastics.
Now, to make sure you know when you've won the argument, these are the signs:
1.) They call you a socialist (or Communist).
2.) They wave the Bible at you (you are a godless heathen!).
3.) They wrap themselves in the flag. (Why do you hate America! or Why don't you move to Russa!)
Feel free to add more!
You can too make gay people straight!
You can too make gay people straight!
Oh, now that is exciting! There are many, many smart, good-looking, charming-as-hell New York fellows to whom I would like to do just that.
Directions, please.
It is reported that you can see the face of the Pope on a swaztika under a bridge.
They. Don't. Care. What. You. Think.
Why should you?
I, for one, am quite concerned with what I think.
You know, speaking of "nuance," I am struck by Houston Rockets fans in Houston.
You should stop provoking them.
or
Doesn't sound very nuanced to me.
or
Maybe you should stop going to Houston.
Feel free to add more!
They either resort to ad hominem, or accuse *you* of ad hominem and declare victory.
Arbitrarily declaring victory is actually one of their favorites. As is equating electoral success (the will of the people!) with rightness.
Cure for wingnuts: Their own Survival Reality TV experience at Abu Ghraib, hosted by Lynndie England and Charles Graner Jr.
You can too make gay people straight!
Oh, now that is exciting! There are many, many smart, good-looking, charming-as-hell New York fellows to whom I would like to do just that.
Directions, please.
Step One: Night out on the town and lots of drinks with Res and Ms. Tigre.
(actually, I think I'm starting to feel a little gay - I may need an intervention or something...)
Post-postance is the new nuance.
I am a neopostnuancitic.
They either resort to ad hominem, or accuse *you* of ad hominem and declare victory.
They often do both. In the very same sentence. I love it when they do that.
Post-postance is the new nuance.
I am a neopostnuancitic.
Thersites
I claimed to be a neopostnuancitic once, but was quickly found out to be merely quasineopostneancitic.
Cure for wingnuts: Their own Survival Reality TV experience at Abu Ghraib
spinoza
They tried this on British TV already. But couldn't hurt to run Gonzales or Allen Dershowitz through a crash course in legal, freedom-loving torture and rendition. For entertainment purposes only.
They either resort to ad hominem, or accuse *you* of ad hominem and declare victory.
They often do both. In the very same sentence. I love it when they do that.
Can you say, "Projection?"
Arbitrarily declaring victory is actually one of their favorites.
As is simple assertion presented as argument or fact. Ie, "democracy is on the march" in the Middle East, ignoring all the historical, factual, and logical problems inherent in the assertion.
They often do both. In the very same sentence. I love it when they do that.
It helps to be a Doctor of Doublethinkology.
Ad hominem is the only way to deal with wingnuts. You can't engage them in rational debate, so the only option remaining is to call them cocksuckers. Or cocksukas, if you are Mr. Wu.
I am a neopostnuancitic.
I'm sure antibiotics will clear that right up.
My theory contends that wingnuttery is an illness caused by childhood trauma.
Not every person I know who experienced childhood abuse of one form or another grew up to be a devout rightwing religious Republican, but every one of those "RRR's" that I have ever known were indeed subjected to ill consideration when they were young.
Just spanking, alone as abuse, of a toddler who has not yet learned language, might explain a lot of Coulters and Dobsons.
These people would betray the needs of their inner children. They betray the needs of their real children, too, because that's the pathology they got from their own abusive parents.
And so the GOP roster grows.
When child abuse goes away, wingnuttery will subside also, and things will again be right, in Kansas and elsewhere.
If an action does not consider and serve the best interests of a child, then that action abuses the child. Find me a wingnut who espouses that. You can't. There are none.
Poppie Prong nailed it: This guy actually admitted and acknowledged Bush's lies, deceits, and faults. But what it came down to, over and over again, was that Bush was a good Christian.
This applies beyond Bush. ALL Republicans are seen as "good christians" and are thus absolutely, utterly immune from any responsibility whatsoever for their actions. Cheating on his wife? With a gay hooker? No problem: He's a good christian--unlike that Demoncrat!
There is and can be no reasoning with this.
is david ray griffin, author of the 9/11 commission report: omissions and distortions, a legitimate guy. he's on cspan going over the 9/11 attacks and raising some interesting questions about bushco culpability.
(actually, I think I'm starting to feel a little gay - I may need an intervention or something...)
Oh, Eli ... If Mr. Throckmorton would provide directions, I would be willing to give the conversion effort the old college try!
I claimed to be a neopostnuancitic once, but was quickly found out to be merely quasineopostneancitic.
I turned out to just be posturepedic, which is odd, 'cause my back is killing me...
I claimed to be a neopostnuancitic once, but was quickly found out to be merely quasineopostneancitic.
Well, right now you are clearly practicing metaquasineopostneanciticism.
You should stop provoking them.
I'm not. I'm just listening to them on the radio and reading their letters to the editor.
or
Doesn't sound very nuanced to me.
True, I didn't give any examples, and I don't really feel like doing it. But I'll just leave you with the comments of the radio hosts, who constantly decry "Communist" China, and who made jokes about Kerry's "nuance" last year: "But you see, it's more nuanced than that."
or
Maybe you should stop going to Houston.
Well, considering I live and work in Houston, that's pretty hard. You got a job at a law firm in Austin for me? Will you pay for me to take the bar in Chicago, along with a job there? If not, then I guess I'm staying here for a while.
shrimplate-
I agree that childhood trauma is involved. Ann Coulter was raised in a veal calf pen.
"All I care about is: can the horse win?"
True dat. Show us the ponies!
Ad hominem is the only way to deal with wingnuts. You can't engage them in rational debate, so the only option remaining is to call them cocksuckers. Or cocksukas, if you are Mr. Wu.
Cocksucking hoople heads to be precise.
Oh, Eli ... If Mr. Throckmorton would provide directions, I would be willing to give the conversion effort the old college try!
Well, you could start with my Step One and see how it goes.
David Ray Griffin? I believe he is actually a theologian of a sort, so i'm not sure how terrific his creds are.
Well I certainly got nowhere with the wingnut I was stuck next to on the plane at the first of the year. I tried to talk to him, but what do you say to someone who insists that Rush and the Savage Weiner don't lie? What the hell can you say?
His entire philosophy devolved onto the single issue of Clinton's cock.
He got more wound up about Monica polishing the presidential knob than anything else we talked about.
All I care about is: can the horse win?
I don't even care about that, actually...
Tena -- boobie response to you downthread in Microsoft!
They often do both. In the very same sentence. I love it when they do that.
as do i. It's usually "Don't use ad hominems, idiot. Why don't you stop being a putz and actually say something intelligent, you liberal pansy."
Even Aquinas understood the difference between 'revealed truth' and that which is probative.
If Mr. Throckmorton would provide directions, I would be willing to give the conversion effort the old college try!
I too would like to volunteer as a subject upon which you can practice the conversion therapy. Do your worst!
That post was really painful. I have a wife whose gone over to the dark side. Came from England, as a Fabian Socialist, to get her Ph.D. here. Become more & more conservative, about 2 years ago became an ardent Bush fan. I have 2 brothers: one is a real estate developer who has turned into a rabid right winger; the second is a well to do doctor & votes Repub regularly for the tax cuts & limited govt.
Passover seder was a real joy over my brother's (the rabid right winger)house. He began the political discussion with why college students voted more for Kerry in the last election - voila, its the liberal college professors indoctrinating them. My response - they're college educated & therefore its difficult for them to vote for a dunce. Next, he just had bought Malken's book & was convinced that interning Japanese-Americans during WWII was a good idea. And so on. Of course, it was me against the rest of the family. Oye.
Well, you could start with my Step One and see how it goes.
Okay, I am thoroughly uncool. Who is "Ms. Tigre?"
PoppieProng | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 3:20 pm | #
I was just funnin' off the sentence
You know, speaking of "nuance," I am struck by Houston Rockets fans in Houston.
I.e. that you were being literally struck by Houston Rocket's fans.
Okay, I am thoroughly uncool. Who is "Ms. Tigre?"
Watertiger, of course.
by the way, to Carpbasman: My reply above reads very snarkily, and i didn't mean for it to be. I was trying to express my distaste of houston, and ended up looking like i was sniping at you. so, sorry if i came across as an asshole. didn't mean to.
"More commonly, we are informed by wingnuts that our rude behavior is THE REASON they decided to be morons"
Exactly. You cannot reason with them because they are indeed morons and they’re proud that they’re morons.
Rude behavior? Because we won’t kiss Bush’s ass?
Screw them!
Well, of course wingnuts come in different sizes and flavors too. Some are armed and dnagerous and "Fuck Yeah" proud of it too and all you can do with them is bet them a case of Bud that they can't jump that washed out bridge in their Hummer. That works more often than not. Some are just permanently juvenile snots who I like to think of as anti-geeks; they memorise RNC spinpoints the way we do Monty Python quotes. These are the ones who are reachable at their moments of crises when they realize they aren't really part of the Kool Kidz just because they bought the T-shirt. Be on the lookout for these special teaching moments.
Rude behavior? Because we won’t kiss Bush’s ass?
And wouldn't that be sodomy anyway?
Oh, come on. I love messing with wingnuts. Granted, it doesn't change anything, but watching their little brains convulse when you throw logic, facts and reason at them is fun. It's a kind of mental gymnastics.
Now, to make sure you know when you've won the argument, these are the signs:
Looks like you got the big three! I would add:
"Well, all politicans do xyz."
Carpbasman: OH! Durrrr. Just saw that. Being struck by rockets fans. hahahahahaha! (I'm also working on writing about transnational crimes for my job, and my brain ain't as swift as usual. )
I would also add my favorite quote about using facts in an argument:
Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
/Homer
Carter--you need a new family. We'll take good care of you here.
I think I'll barf:
A&E running a commercial for Project Rachel
You know - all the candy asses who are "sorry" that they had abortions and are trying to brainwash other women like they were brainwashed.
All this over a bunch of cells!
"Well, all politicans do xyz."
Or, of course, "But Clinton did *this*!"
Oh, and don't forget about how the right-wing bloggers took down Liberal Icon Dan Rather, while the ineffectual left-wing bloggers haven't done spit.
Oh, and that Michael Moore is a fat fat fatty.
Oh, Carter, that sounds awful.
Terry C--no well designed, legitimate study has proven that abortion is detrimental to a woman's health and wellbeing, physical and mental.
God, I hate propaganda.
I also love the fact that wingnuts always accuse "liberals" of everything they themselves regularly do. For anyone who was alive and possesed of a brain in the 1990s, the charges of "Bush hatred" are rather the ultimate in piquant hypocricy.
Some are just permanently juvenile snots who I like to think of as anti-geeks; they memorise RNC spinpoints the way we do Monty Python quotes.
The assholes who believe that Rush Limpdick and FUX TV are news programs.
PoppieProng | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 3:25 pm | #
Didn't take it that way, and as I said I was snarking anyway.
I don't know what Van Gundy said because I've been holed up for examinations for the past week, but I'll always have the image of him hanging on to some guys leg in the middle of a court brawl for dear life.
I've always kind of respected him after that.
Terry C--no well designed, legitimate study has proven that abortion is detrimental to a woman's health and wellbeing, physical and mental.
It is if the clinic gets blown up.
Oh, it's been said before, but I'll say it again: WTF is wrong with Kansas!?
The hearings in Topeka, scheduled to last several days, are focusing on two proposals. The first recommends that students continue to be taught the theory of evolution because it is key to understanding biology. The other proposes that Kansas alter the definition of science, not limiting it to theories based on natural explanations.
Eli--fat discrimination = discrimination.
Just a gentle reminder that there are variables in this equation...
Damn you, Spinoza! My house is not getting clean!
The thing about Clinton getting a blowjob is just a red herring. It's really just about Clinton being a Democrat. They forgive all sorts of sexual transgressions for repubs.
Many people feel that if they slip and have same sex relations or have periods where temptation is strong that they really haven’t changed. I would maintain that any change brings with it a temptation to return to the old ways. This is true of smoking cessation, weight management and other habit oriented issues presented to counselors. It is unrealistic to think such relapses won’t occur. So rather than getting discouraged it seems better to create a plan for dealing with the experience.
Of course the question he should be asking is, "Why do we always lose against the "wingnuts". Why don't people like us?"
LOL!
Avestus
Who let the white trash out?
Like Preznit Jerkoff, he laughs at his own lame "jokes."
Tena - my response to the Clenis-knob-slobbering crowd would be to say,
"Oh, ok, now I understand. You're ok with sending your kids off in a draft to fight - and perhaps die in - unnecessary wars - because Clinton got a blow job. You're ok with the people who already own everything ripping off the money you pay in taxes....because Clinton got a blowjob. You're ok with surrendering all your civil rights and liberties - because Clinton got a blow job. Now I get it; it all makes sense. You're willing to accept any punishment that is doled out to you to make the evil Bill Clinton pay for that blow job. I'm convinced - where do I sign up to crucify myself to punish Bill Clinton for the blowjob? I'm on board, brother."
"It is if the clinic gets blown up."
Eli--true dat.
But that begs the question, who are the sickos here?
I am a neopostnuancitic.
Thersites
I claimed to be a neopostnuancitic once, but was quickly found out to be merely quasineopostneancitic.
rorschach
Thers is clearly nothing more than an anti-nuantic.
Rors - well that's a different story. Quasineopostneancitic being a high falutin' term for psuedo-postance.
When child abuse goes away, wingnuttery will subside also, and things will again be right, in Kansas and elsewhere.
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Maybe that's why Dobson will teach you how to beat your children and not leave visible marks to alert child protection services.
These people are really sick.
"Like Preznit Jerkoff, he laughs at his own lame "jokes."
That's because no one else will.
Oh, and that Michael Moore is a fat fat fatty.
Prodigiously so.
Eli--fat discrimination = discrimination.
Just a gentle reminder that there are variables in this equation...
I was channeling. I have no patience for fat discrimination, believe me.
Spinoza--I erred in my judgment that an evaluation of prejudice would work as a linear model. It's going to have to be a matrix.
san antone - I mainly agree with your reply about Janet's tit and the statue. But I still believe Americans are immature about nudity and tend to consider it prurient whether intended that way or not.
However, the whole effect is being magnified right now by the fundies and the media - you're right about that.
Gotta go vote in a city election. Later moonbats.
--fat discrimination = discrimination...
And one of the last acceptable forms of discrimination among even intelligent, enlightened, otherwise progressive people.
Eli--would you like triple chocolate brownies today? NTodd refused them, but I suspect I can sell them to you.
Sallyh,
No, no, you have to come up with a nice regression equation. Otherwise our economist, Mr. Black, will not understand it. And then he may unleash the ferrets.
To trot out a shopworn analogy, the Clenis is the White Whale of movement conservatism.
Rude behavior? Because we won’t kiss Bush’s ass?
And wouldn't that be sodomy anyway?
Well, it would certainly be rude behavior, anyway.
Okay, I am thoroughly uncool. Who is "Ms. Tigre?"
Watertiger, of course.
Eli ... Oh, duh. Well anytime you are feeling gay and in need of a conversion. Just appear with Mr. Throckmorton's directions.
Eli--would you like triple chocolate brownies today? NTodd refused them, but I suspect I can sell them to you.
This is entirely possible.
Eli--would you like triple chocolate brownies today? NTodd refused them, but I suspect I can sell them to you.
is there a bidding process involved?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Spinoza--is Atrios' being able to understand it a qualifier here?
RMJ--no, no bidding necessary. But there is something about first to the counter involved.
Eli ... Oh, duh. Well anytime you are feeling gay and in need of a conversion. Just appear with Mr. Throckmorton's directions.
Sigmund Freud
You're not *really* a psychiatrist, are you.
Maybe that's why Dobson will teach you how to beat your children and not leave visible marks to alert child protection services.
The beating I'd like to administer to Dobson would leave many visible marks.
I shall fear no ferret.
To trot out a shopworn analogy, the Clenis is the White Whale of movement conservatism.
I think it must be positively swelling with pride now...
Sallyh-
Of course. For all you know I may be Atrios, and am simply leading you along until I lock out your IP address.
Clenis-knob-slobbering crowd
Good one, Jennifer. I'll be borrowing that regularly, ifn ya don't mind. 
no well designed, legitimate study has proven that abortion is detrimental to a woman's health and wellbeing, physical and mental.
And forced pregnancy isn't?
Who did the studies? Right wing males?
Spinoza--now why would he do that? I'm generally fairly well mannered, and I keep the knives under the counter.
I shall fear no ferret.
See no weasel, fear no weasel.
To trot out a shopworn analogy, the Clenis is the White Whale of movement conservatism.
Every time I hear some jackass sputtering, "Bu-bu-but CLINTON..." I just repeat in a monotone, "Of no interest. Of no interest. Of not interest..."
No, Terry, what I'm saying is, no studies have proven that abortion is detrimental to the health and wellbeing of women.
Enforced pregnancy is quite another story.
Clenis is the White Whale of movement conservatism.
And so that makes Kenneth Star Ahab?
You know - all the candy asses who are "sorry" that they had abortions and are trying to brainwash other women like they were brainwashed.
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I saw that a few weeks ago and almost threw my very good glass of Barolo at the tv. These bitches get me more than any others. When they were in a fix, they took advantage of choice. They are now trying to deny that option to other women who find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy. Fuck em.
Sigmund Freud
You're not *really* a psychiatrist, are you.
no, a psychoanalyst.
OT, but Derby picks:
Box tri with Sun King, Afleet Alex, Bandini, and High Fly.
Longshot: High Limit.
For old times' sake: Sort It Out and Going Wild. The Lukas-Baffert duo was once money in the bank...
Hold your tickets!
sallyh, sallyh...
(hands waving)
memememememe!!!!
Oops--did I misphrase myself, Terry? I'm doing about seven things here, admittedly.
I am always befuddled over the rigidity of people and their opinions, whether it is the Wingnut Squadron of the conservative groups or otherwise.
My views change year by year, experience by experience. Some that I held when I was younger have dropped to the wayside, others have taken on depth or have modified. And I expect to gain new views in the future.
Those who are so static, how they can be considered still breathing is a bit awe inspiring. Those people who sit, listen and pay homage to the hate mongers do seem to disregard everything they come in contact with. Their feelings, their own insights, experiences and intellect are completely left behind. How?
In other news, the nuclear option! What's this about a playground? More juvenilization of the Left.
With the climax nearing, the tone of the debate escalated. A radio address taped by three Christian conservative leaders for broadcast Monday called the judiciary "the last playground of the liberal left." In the address, James C. Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, described the fight as the tipping point of the Bush presidency. "Nothing good happened in November, only the potential for something good," Dr. Dobson said.
(via DailyKos)
When they were in a fix, they took advantage of choice. They are now trying to deny that option to other women who find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy.
But it ruined their lives! Now they're selflessly trying to stop other women from making the same mistake!
Capbasman: JVG said that he was told by an NBA official that there was a directive from the NBA to call Yao Ming on ticky-tack fouls, basically. he got fined $100,000 for it.
I love that imagery of holding on to some guy's legs.
Flory--but of course. and you get two, because you are always extra special good.
I saw that a few weeks ago and almost threw my very good glass of Barolo at the tv.
Oh now, QL ... that is just wrong. Get mad at these idiots, yes. But DO. NOT. WASTE. GOOD. WINE. They are not worth it.
ok, dave...1000 quatloos on Bandini
Those who are so static, how they can be considered still breathing is a bit awe inspiring. Those people who sit, listen and pay homage to the hate mongers do seem to disregard everything they come in contact with. Their feelings, their own insights, experiences and intellect are completely left behind. How?
They really really *want* to believe. The part I don't understand is, WHY?
Spinoza--now why would he do that? I'm generally fairly well mannered, and I keep the knives under the counter.
Knives don't kill people, statisticians do. Why think what I could publish if I didn't have to use statistics! It would be much easier if I could just quote something from the Bible.
Charles Johnson is dribbling over his plan to launch 'pajama media'. There they will sell ads by hijacking the blogads model, ripping off the guy who pioneered blog ads. Then they will have a 'news desk' where they will present an alternative to the 'MSM' = wingnut opinions culled from blogs.
To the women of Project Rachel--everyone makes decisions and we're probably going to regret some of them along the way, but that does not mean you are the sole owners of regret, so quit acting as if you are.
thanky sallyh
san antone:
"Nothing good happened in November
Hey!! I actually agree with Spoogedob on somethin'
Spinoza--are you saying there are those who would use stats to hurt people?
Oh, wait...
"They really really *want* to believe. The part I don't understand is, WHY?
Eli "
I have said it before, when this all clears up, if ever, there will be an incredible need for therapists in this nation.
Spinoza--are you saying there are those who would use stats to hurt people?
Wasn't that Willard? Or am I confused?
"I have said it before, when this all clears up, if ever, there will be an incredible need for therapists in this nation."
Or at least massive vacationing on the Guadaloupe River.
I see one of the Derby horses (Giacomo) is named after Sting's son.
Tantric horses could be what finally brings down this administration. Takes forever to milk'em.
.
"I have said it before, when this all clears up, if ever, there will be an incredible need for therapists in this nation."
Or at least massive vacationing on the Guadaloupe River.
I'm investing in liquor futures.
Gotta go vote in a city election. Later moonbats.
Tena
Great! I voted early this morning. What a great feeling. One mayor, one councilperson, and 3 propositions.
Hubby and I discussed what it might be like if everyone in the country got to vote on new state and federal laws. Wouldn't THAT be fun.
I really would love to hear the collective gasp if Bush or the Republicans in general somehow managed to accidentally reveal their true nature in such a way that even the true believers couldn't ignore it. Unfortunately, it'd take something like the end of The Dead Zone...
Sallyh
You a tuber? Never been myself in all these years.
I'm drunk half the week now as it is.
Sallyh-
Well, there are all those statistical guerillas touting their Kolmogorov-Smirnov-47s.
res: how did the exams go?
http://www.imnotsorry.net/
The flip side of Project Rachel.
You won't see any commercials for them, though!
I don't think true wingnuts are persuadable & I think most of them would show up as not mentally healthy on most standard psychiatric evaluators (viz - MMPI)
OTOH, there is no question that the ocnstant bombardment through the MSM of a crypto-fascist POV has a deleterious effect
Hi Hecate! Now wash your hands!
Their feelings, their own insights, experiences and intellect are completely left behind. How?
Insecurity, fear, lack of faith. Parroting the beliefs of others involves no personal risk - it's not you or your ideas on the line, it's what someone else told you should be your ideas. And there's comfort in numbers. It's easier for many to find security in numbers, no matter how wrong they may be, than it is to stand up and say, "you're wrong."
San Antone rose: ah the judiciary, the liberal playground. I guess that's why Justice Thomas allowed the use of the wire-fraud statute to "not" enforce the excise tax laws of Canada at the end of April.
lemme back up. the defendants were convicted of violating the wire-fraud statute for using the telephone while defrauding Canada of import duties on alcohol. except, we can't enforce Canada's laws for that since they don't have a reciprocating statute, and our treaties don't allow for it either. But Justice Thomas found a way to do it. I know he really believes in his opinion, but I've been looking at it for a week now, and I can't find any way to look at it other than that the majority just wanted the guys to be found guilty, so they stretched the law.
But what I want to know is, when did Thomas becoming a flaming liberal?
Hiya, Prior A!
Is mental illness really *that* prevalent? And that unidirectional?
EkCenTrik--one of the most fun vacations we had was when some friends of ours took us tubing on the Guadaloupe. Talk about the ultimate relaxation--probably one of the most glorious days of my life.
You really worry of nothing on the river.
Tena: Well I certainly got nowhere with the wingnut I was stuck next to on the plane at the first of the year. I tried to talk to him
I have an approach I use that works with many of the right wingers, with the exception of the most ardent extremists. Note: You've can't detox them in 1 sitting, it takes constant interventions over time where you get them to begin questioning the Limbaugh-Hannity lines they accept.
EX. I took my winter vacation in Chile & sat down next to a right winger in the business lounge in the airport. First, I befriended him & pretended to agree with some of his generalizations. I pretended to be outraged with him on the direction the country was taking (Don't appear to be a liberal, they immediately tune out. Find out where they're coming from & use that as the basis for steering the discussion).
Told him I voted for Bush the 1st time because he seemed to be a God fearing Christian (the guy is a former resident of California who moved the family to S. Dakota because of the moral depravity in Cal.) but couldn't in 2004. Said found out that he'd been an alcoholic for 20 years & this alone disqualified him because of the example that sets for our Children. Also, told him that as a former Army man (the guy had serviced in the Navy & I'd been in the Army Reserves), I was very upset that he'd attack Kerry for his army medals in Nam & that it was an attack on all of us who'd served in war.
I left this guy rethinking W. Bet if I'd been his neighbor, I'd been flipping this guy in a year.
ok, moonbats. I told myself today was the day I'd replant my container garden. So that's what I'm gonna do....right now.
Later.
You guys really make being productive damn difficult.....
I just read "The Evolution of Cows" post over at DailyKos.
Here are two choice cuts:
And besides, who needs to sit around for a century or so of patient investigation and peer review when you can vote one theory off the island by the next commercial break?
*****
Creationism, by contrast, stands like an isolated bridge with only one support, leading from nowhere to nowhere, unconnected to any other science. It can neither use nor confirm what other fields of science have taught us, nor add to our understanding of those fields. Which, by definition, means that creationism does not function as a science.
QL ... Not badly. All were fair content-wise. One was just too damned long and I did not finish, but that is not unprecedented. I did not fail. Thanks for asking.
Sallyh
Felt that way the fews times I spent time on the Frio. (With the exception of the snakes)
(Oh, yeah, the scorpions too)
Wow, I didn't think Mussina had it in him.
BuzzBomb: that Clenis thing makes me laugh. It's like that Jimmy Kimmel skit i saw on line about "unnecessary censorship." Let me see, is there a link... is there... let me see... Found it!
Here.
Now, you fucking haloscan, don't screw up my tags!
Creationism, by contrast, stands like an isolated bridge with only one support, leading from nowhere to nowhere, unconnected to any other science. It can neither use nor confirm what other fields of science have taught us, nor add to our understanding of those fields. Which, by definition, means that creationism does not function as a science.
san antone rose
Which is why Kansas is on the verge of redefining science!
Amazing, really.
yay!
Wow - I got to mark a real paper ballot with a sharpie.
That was a rush.
If they can do that for a city election, by the goddesses, they can do that for all of them.
I really would love to hear the collective gasp if Bush or the Republicans in general somehow managed to accidentally reveal their true nature in such a way that even the true believers couldn't ignore it.
Problem is, I kinda thought that they've done this quite a bit...
"Which is why Kansas is on the verge of redefining science!"
Kansas can't redefine science--they're simply ousting it.
Abu Gonzalez, dissembling:
Many of the accounts detailing abuse of detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay by American military and civilian personnel don't meet the definition of torture, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said.
Gonzales, who grew up in Houston*, said Congress requires proving that intentional infliction of severe physical and mental pain or suffering occurred to have a prosecutable case of torture.
"Congress intended a very high bar here in order to be prosecuted for engaging in torture," he said Friday during a visit to Houston. "There may be conduct that you may find offensive that falls far short of torture."
*what does growing up in Houston have to do with anything? Sure, the traffic and smog is torture, but c'mon.
Sallyh--
Indeed. But the wording in this article is just striking, is it not?
The other proposes that Kansas alter the definition of science, not limiting it to theories based on natural explanations.
I mean, really!
While they're at it, they should redefine "literature" to include things that don't involve any words at all, like rocks and trees!
Woo hoo!
Problem is, I kinda thought that they've done this quite a bit...
Yeah, I know. They reveal themselves quite frequently to those of us who are *looking* for it. But it has to be something truly spectacular to get through to those who are actively looking away.
One was just too damned long and I did not finish, but that is not unprecedented.
My answer to the essay question for my last exam was 10 pages or so of legal pad. The question itself was kind of easy, but the length of the answer that it entailed was out of bounds. I could have written at least three or four more pages.
Hi Res!
Didn't see you -- wanted to join the chorus of congratulations t'other day, but i was way behind the thread -- are you sober already?
Come to EschaCon & I will show you how to celebrate!
Eli --
I don't thing all Bush supporters qualify as wingnuts -- uninformed & frightened, perhaps -- as to the amount of "mental illness" in our society, a lot depends on definitions (we hate to admit that we are crazy) -- but one article claims that 16% of Americans suffer from clinical depression -- start adding those with bipolar conditions & untreated addictions & you are looking at a lot of people -- does anyone thing that all of these fundamentalist women who are murdering their children would not have benefited from adequate counseling & medical care?
"Problem is, I kinda thought that they've done this quite a bit...
PoppieProng"
Agreed, though there are dents in their superhero armor. I admit their tolerance level is more than I expected. But while I get depressed, I still see the ultimate outcome as a hard right meltdown.
Jennifer - next time I engage a wingnut I will use your tactic - it sounds like a winner to me.
The guy started yelling about Clinton lying about the blowjob - I countered with the yellowcake in the SOTU. I pointed out that the SOTU is constitutionally required and that Bush could be impeached for that lie if we didn't have a Repug majority Congress.
He actually didn't argue with me about that, just wanted me to admit that Clinton had lied. Why it meant so much to him I do not know.
Fundoids miss the point on science. It's a methodology. It's a way to understand the world.
Since they don't have any desire to understand the world, it would make sense that they would toss the methodology out.
I don't thing all Bush supporters qualify as wingnuts
I don't think so either, but there is *still* a frightening number of truly hardcore wingnuts.
*what does growing up in Houston have to do with anything? Sure, the traffic and smog is torture, but c'mon.
san antone rose
it's the libruhl media trying to smear a good god-fearing city!!!!
Why it meant so much to him I do not know.
Because Clinton Lied, and a Blue Dress Was Dyed!
Prior A--a couple of studies have demonstrated that religious fundamentalism is frequently the outcropping of mental illness. Apparently the rates of mental disorders increase in proportion to the fundamentalism of the person.
though the real answer might be :he said Friday during a visit to Houston.
Prior A--a couple of studies have demonstrated that religious fundamentalism is frequently the outcropping of mental illness. Apparently the rates of mental disorders increase in proportion to the fundamentalism of the person.
Cause or effect?
my nephew asked why i kept my kerry/edwards stickers on my car. reply, so that i'll (hopefully) never be mistaken for a conservative/republican/rightwing/kkkristie/fundie kook.
PoppieProng: that kicked ass
Carp - when I took the bar exam, it had my dream question on it that the day before I had told a couple of people I'd love to see show up. It was a comparison of discovery in the state and federal systems.
I filled the blue book, turned it sideways and wrote up the sides of the margins, in the back and front covers - I could have written all the rest of the day on it.
That was fortunate, since I just handed back the oil & gas question - I had no idea.
Sallyh: Carter--you need a new family. We'll take good care of you here.
Thanks. That's why I come here.
Hi Sallyh --
Where's my single malt (doubtless cyber-Scotch, like the baked goods) -- hope you get a lot of loot for Mother's Day!
Tena --
You sure voted fast! They use paper ballots in the UK -- they get the results overnight -- their exit polling is accurate -- do you think that the American Revolution was a mistake?
QL in NY:
Sorry I'm so late with this, but
I've been away for a day.
The song on Molloy....
I thought it was a baroque instrumental
version of "All I Need is a Miracle"
by Mike and Mechanics...but
a serious Pink Floyd fan nailed it --
it is, in fact, an orchestra version
of a Floyd song called "Run Like Hell."
Which is, I think, what you were told initially.
Anyway, the Floyd fan said it was
definite, so I defer to his expertise.
Come to EschaCon & I will show you how to celebrate!
Hmmmm...A monk is going to show me how to celebrate? Sounds intriguing. Okay, you've convinced me. I will be there.
BTW:
I've been gone for almost a day...
did I miss anything untoward or
amusing?
do you think that the American Revolution was a mistake?
Prior Aelred
We at least should have waited until some of the colonists had brought over the art of beer-making before kicking the king to the curb!
Agreed, though there are dents in their superhero armor. I admit their tolerance level is more than I expected. But while I get depressed, I still see the ultimate outcome as a hard right meltdown.
yeah, i tend to agree. you're right that things are visible to those looking, but honestly, I spend more time looking than maybe i oughta. people who care about their jobs more than i do don't really have the luxury of doing real research on things. they work all day, and when they come home, they get the information that is packaged nicely for them. they don't have the time to read the paper or websites, and as a result, they go along happily, until someone engages them.
like i was saying about my mom-in-law, she's a bush supporter, but since she just recently married a brit (who is left-of-center in america, and slightly right-of-center in britain) who doesn't like W, and who has a son in the Royal Marines (who hates the whole invasion), she's begun to come around.
buut, you're right. at some point, there'll be a meltdown. hopefully. (one would have thought Iran-Contra would have been a pretty big deal, but it didnt stop people from beatifying Ronnie Raygun.)
Eli--in this case, it was studying effect and attempting to locate a correlation.
Sallyh --
That's interesting & makes perfectly good sense to me (sorry for the time lag here -- I'm on dila-up)
Eli --
I don't think it is so much cause & effect as a nasty feedback loop -- fundamentalism takes your problems & provides false solutions which makes the problems worse which calls for more false soliutions, etc.
Hecate --
If you are still around -- I plan to send you some mail (I'm sure you need more)
Prior - City election and we voted 2 blocks from here. The lines were alphabetical and I got lucky. There were only 2 people ahead of me and only two things on the ballot - city councilman and a proposition on a strong mayor initiative.
Carp - when I took the bar exam, it had my dream question on it that the day before I had told a couple of people I'd love to see show up. It was a comparison of discovery in the state and federal systems.
Ugh. that doesn't sound like a dream question. my dream question was on the MPT. It was (nominally) about copyright. that kicked ass! I kicked its ass, and I was the only one in a good mood that afternoon. Now, the MBE... let's just say that sucked. I am so bad at multiple choice. luckily, somehow, i knew my texas law well enough to pass the bar! (oil & gas, you are evil!!! {honestly, why dont they put IP on there instead--it's a bigger industry in texas than oil&gas. seriously!})
Was in DC this last week and heard several dem congresspeople speak. Jan Schakowsky (IL-9) made the interesting statement that she could feel a change coming in '06 elections, it's in the air everywhere she goes. Hope she is right.
Any one of the 20 horses can win. As far as I am concerned, too many like to run in front and only one can, so look for an upset. My sentimental pick is Bandini because I won money on his father (Fu...Pegasus). He has his father's personality; hard to handle and constantly biting at anything he can reach.
rorshach --
Why aren't you in Germany by now? (or are you? --these internets are amazing)
Br Cuthbert is brewing now -- the first batch was a learning experience -- the second wasn't bad (better than US commercial brews) -- his Aventinus was good -- his brown ale looks like it will be a winner -- he is learning as he goes (& i am doing my part)
Or at least massive vacationing on the Guadaloupe River.
I'm investing in liquor futures.
flory
I'm investing in toob futures.
i should say: "IP sans Patent." cuz patent law is only for those science and engineering types.
Totally OT, but:
As I write this, I'm listening to
the Byrds version of Lowell George's
"Truck Stop Girl" with guitar
and vocals by Clarene White.
Killed by a drunk driver while
he was loading equipment into the
back of his car. He was 29.
There are some days when I think his
early death was as big a blow to
American music as the death of
George Gershwin.
Seriously.
BuzzBomb: I'm glad you liked it. 
Prior - do you think that the American Revolution was a mistake?
No, I think there is no correlation between the revolution and whether or not we use paper ballots.
Poppie, why does your mother support Bush? Does she have a rationale for it?
Was in DC this last week and heard several dem congresspeople speak. Jan Schakowsky (IL-9) made the interesting statement that she could feel a change coming in '06 elections, it's in the air everywhere she goes. Hope she is right.
God, I hope so, too. However, I ain't holding my breath. It's still quite a while away. and as far as I know, investigations on voting systems has gone nowhere. i'm not tin-foil-hatty, but are exit polls in the UK that much more accurate than they are here?
i should say: "IP sans Patent." cuz patent law is only for those science and engineering types.
I was about to say, since we my trial-lawyer heavy school tended to look down at those "types." [adjusts seersucker suit] It's too hot today.
While they're at it, they should redefine "literature" to include things that don't involve any words at all, like rocks and trees!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hey - Don't forget newspapers that contain no facts at all.
I am almost finished my new opus in my pajamas entitled "Whinage Counselling" and want to know does anyone here know how much Regnery Press pays?
...
...I mean in my basement.
Hey - Don't forget newspapers that contain no facts at all.
Only way to avoid accusations of liberal bias.
one would have thought Iran-Contra would have been a pretty big deal, but it didnt stop people from beatifying Ronnie Raygun
Hatred of Democrats and liberals trumps any misdeeds of Republicans every time. EVERY single time. If it were revealed that Bush kept human body parts in his fridge for snacking on, wingnuts would just spin it as some kind of liberal plot to discredit him. It's part of the IOKIYAR principle. Wingnuts viewed Iran-Contra as the persecuting of an American hero (Ollie North) by feckless, crypto-commie Congressional Democrats. Wingnuts saw North's felonious behavior and lying to Congress as heroic, because Congress at that time was controlled by Democrats and therefore illegitimate. It's party over country for these fucks, always, always, always.
Computer question:
I just switched to AOL
(don't ask).
How the hell do you Reload?
rorshach --
Why aren't you in Germany by now? (or are you? --these internets are amazing)
Br Cuthbert is brewing now -- the first batch was a learning experience -- the second wasn't bad (better than US commercial brews) -- his Aventinus was good -- his brown ale looks like it will be a winner -- he is learning as he goes (& i am doing my part)
Prior Aelred
Flying away tomorrow, Aelred. We're flying out of Houston, and so had planned to drive down there today, but the friend with whom we were going to stay has pneumonia, plus we aren't even close to packed, to we're in our home one more night...
I used to make an excellent brown ale, and a very good wheat beer, when I lived up in the Ozarks, but I gave all my equipment away when I moved. I should look into that again...
Carp - when I took the bar exam, it had my dream question on it that the day before I had told a couple of people I'd love to see show up. It was a comparison of discovery in the state and federal systems.
OH. MY. GOD. If a question like that shows up on my exam I think I will walk out and take up bartending.
Good ole Family Values in action!
GEORGETOWN, Texas (AP) - Molly Daniels spent weeks surfing the Internet, gathering information for a bizarre and grisly plot of deception. She learned how to burn a human body beyond recognition. She sought clues on ways to deceive arson investigators, and took meticulous steps to create a new identity for her husband.
Daniels then dug up a woman's corpse, staged a fiery car accident to fake her husband's death, and had him re-emerge as her new boyfriend. Authorities say it was all to collect a $110,000 life insurance policy while hiding her husband, Clayton Daniels, from the cops.
Molly Daniels pleaded guilty this past week to felony charges of insurance fraud and hindering apprehension, and was sentenced to the maximum 20 years in prison.
"This was a ghoulish, horrific crime," prosecutor Jane Starnes at the sentencing hearing Thursday.
Molly Daniels, 22, insisted the plan wasn't motivated by greed, but rather was a desperate attempt to keep her husband out of prison stemming from a sexual assault charge.
"It was about keeping our family together," she tearfully told jurors.
QL in NY:
Did you see my post about the
song on Molloy?
"I just switched to AOL"
Will not comment, god it is a struggle, fortitude...
steve simela I just read that to my husband, who shook his head yes and said, "Little Feat. Lowell George. One of my favorite groups."
steve simels, that is.
I really would love to hear the collective gasp if Bush or the Republicans in general somehow managed to accidentally reveal their true nature in such a way that even the true believers couldn't ignore it.
Um...if Dubya lying about the war, condoning torture and jacking off a horse hasn't done it, nothing will.
PoppieProng - the Multi-choice is torture and should be declared torture by Amnesty International.
I fucking hated the multi-choice, as did everyone else I know.
If it hadn't been for the oil & gas question and one on secured transactions (bastards running BAR/BRI told us over and over that they hadn't asked a secured transactions question in 25 years and not to worry about it) the essay exam would have been a walk in the park.
Poppie, why does your mother support Bush? Does she have a rationale for it?
well, its mother-in-law, but she supports him cuz he's a christian. and her friends like bush. and her son (my bro-in-law, who is a good guy but watches fox news and is a youth minister) likes bush. it's all christian based. my m-i-l understands the truth of the world, because she actually does listen when my wife and i talk to her about reality, but it always comes down to what she feels safe with: god-loving republicans. it's how she was raised, and how she will stay. however, and i love my m-i-l very much, but she is so devoted to her new husband in that typical "good-christian-wife" way, she will probably do whatever he says. He's a good guy, and luckily is more on our side than not, and actually doesnt want her to be quite like that, but i'd like her to come to the truth herself.
sorry for the lenghty answer.
They could say "we want 99% of America to be our indentured servants" and there would be letters to the editor the next day telling us that if we Communists didn't like it we should move to Cuba.
I just switched to AOL
Dude. Just...dude. You might as well have said you switched to GOP.
Um...if Dubya lying about the war, condoning torture and jacking off a horse hasn't done it, nothing will.
Unfortunately, they've always been able to maintain that thin veneer of deniability, where they can make a flimsy "explanation" that allows their supporters to go, "Phew! That's all right, then, just the Evil Liberal Media trying to make the preznit look bad."
It really does need to be an on-camera baby-eating moment, I'm afraid.
I was about to say, since we my trial-lawyer heavy school tended to look down at those "types." [adjusts seersucker suit] It's too hot today.
Jay Carolina |
the sad thing is, they're the ones getting all the jobs these days. down here in texas, anyway.
Um...if Dubya lying about the war, condoning torture and jacking off a horse hasn't done it, nothing will.
Let's face it. Some people love war and torture, mostly because they've never been personally exposed to either.
Guys:
The AOL thing was just for science.
I was just curious!!!!
It was free!!!!!!!!
For two months!!!!!
I can change, really!!!!
Anybody know a meeting I can go
to?
Tena: the MBE was sheer hell. All through lawschool, we're taught to find answers where there are none, right? So for six hours on a hot day this past july, i sat there going "fuck! fuck! fuck! where's the wrong answer?"
Tena --
Hope you voted for a strong mayor -- we have a good mayor but have a city manager -- the mayor really loves Three Rivers -- the City Manager is hoping to move up -- it makes a difference
Steve, WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH DID YOU SWITCH TO AOL? There is nothing they offer that is not available other places for much less.
steve: I think with AOL you can still use any browser you want. You don't have to use the built in crapola.
Anybody know a meeting I can go
to?
AAOL.
It's party over country for these fucks, always, always, always.
Absolutely. Dems? We'll join a fringe 3rd group if we don't like the way things are going; but republicans? you've hit it right on the head.
simels - did you also join Columbia House Music Club?
steve simels - you just think you can change. There is no way to remove AOL ENTIRELY from any system.
Two months free vs. having to buy a new CPU. Great deal!
underwhelm:
that would be cool. Thanks!
The other thing that might do it is if a recording surfaces of a private WH conversation where Bush says something along the lines of "Fuck the little people. The little people are suckers; Karl knows how to feed 'em shit and make 'em like it."
It really does need to be an on-camera baby-eating moment, I'm afraid.
Even then, just like in the V miniseries, they can always claim that rebel Democrats took over the TV station and broadcast a fake.
The AOL thing was just for science.
I was just curious!!!!
It was free!!!!!!!!
Oh, it was free. Well then...ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND?!?!?!
"Fuck the little people.
Little people: "He didn't mean me."
The AOL thing was just for science.
I was just curious!!!!
It was free!!!!!!!!
For two months!!!!!
I can change, really!!!!
hahahahahahhahahahahahahahah!
PoppieProng
Good answer. The key is that Bush has been painted by the Rovian wilds as the best example of a Christian and Kerry as well as anyone in opposition is painted otherwise.
You know, what we really need is a debate between Christian leaders in an open forum. We never see that, we the mass media campaign for the right minded set, but where are those who disagree and reprsent what I bet is the larger part of Christians in America?
I see the quibbles as noted on RMJ's site and the article by Rev. Veazey. But that is not enough at this point, if Christians of commonsense want to see this mess turned over, they have to start speaking out. People such as myself, no matter how well meaning, are co-opted since I do not hold a formal faith nor do I practice a religion. (And yes I separate the two).
simels - did you also join Columbia House Music Club?
Jennifer
Zing!
GWPDA:
Are you serious?
Have I really made a Faustian
bargain that's gonna screw my
computer?
Oh lordy.
simels - since you've got it, might as well cruise over to the AOL "political" chat room, From the Right. Those jackasses make the LGFers look like mental colossi.
The other thing that might do it is if a recording surfaces of a private WH conversation where Bush says something along the lines of "Fuck the little people. The little people are suckers; Karl knows how to feed 'em shit and make 'em like it."
We got Enron on tape. No effect. People would just say he was joking in that jovial, aw shucks, let's go have a beer way.
Boy, steve, you really stepped in it.
wilds = wiles
Poppie - "fuck! fuck! fuck! where's the wrong answer?"
Oh fuck, tell me about it. Out of every 4 goddamned choices, 2 were always equally correct, I swear to the goddesses. It was insane. Nothing sucks like the multi-state. I had no idea how I had done when I was finished.
Just the fact that the "ratings" for SS privatization, the nuclear option, and Schiavopalooza were so poor suggests to me that there *is* a threshold, that there *is* a limit to the teflon. They haven't reached it yet, but I don't think it's an absolute impossibility.
what we really need is a debate between Christian leaders in an open forum
Let's get Benny the Rat to argue with the Rev. Al Sharpton!
Oh christ.
I had no idea.
Really.
"Fuck the little people.
Little people: "He didn't mean me."
yup. even if he said "and that little piece of shit, Mark Sampson on 24378 Mockingbird Lane, Houston, Texas 77002, he can go fuck himself," Mark Sampson would say "He must have gotten the zip code wrong. But that's okay, because he's a christian, and to err is human. UNLESS IT'S A BLOWJOB! BY A DEMOCRAT! NOT NAMED ZELL MILLER!"
They haven't reached it yet, but I don't think it's an absolute impossibility.
georgie could raise taxes. That would probably do it.
steve simels - it's ok, steve, you were just experimenting, weren't you? It's not like you're hooked, right?
Great Tierney column today.
"It was free!!!!!!!!
For two months!!!!!
I can change, really!!!!"
I cannot wait to hear your 'cancellation" experience. It is always fun. And as GWPDA pointed out, removing the software. Well, I have tried several times for people I know and I failed. MSN is about as much fun.
Steve-
I tried removing all the AOL junk my PC came loaded with. It does seem well-nigh impossible, as GWPDA said. However, I was able to get the pre-loaded crap off my Mac.
BTW:
As long as I've made an utter ass
of myself.....
Can I still use my old e-mail
now that I've sold out to
AOHELL?
Feel free to make fun of me while
you answer.
AOL, Always Off Line. I've used a computer that had it. Every ten minutes everything would stop for an upgrade. And the annoying ad.... Cony Island with zero charm or interest. Like dropping acid and going to Brandon MO. Like looking for love in all the porn places.
Steve:
I owe you, big time. With the name of the song, I'm sure I'll be able to find it. Chardonnay on me if and when we ever meet.
Thanks.
How could George convince the public of his wankerdom?
The draft.
Oh fuck, tell me about it. Out of every 4 goddamned choices, 2 were always equally correct, I swear to the goddesses. It was insane. Nothing sucks like the multi-state. I had no idea how I had done when I was finished.
First day, I was on cloud nine. I kicked that day's ass. Knew the MPT, and the procedure short answers were pretty easy. Second day, I wanted to die (not to mention i was terribly ill. i got home, went to bed at 6.00 pm, and woke up at 6.00 am the next day without waking once!). Third day, I was glad it was done, felt pretty good about texas law (even though i went to school in Indiana) but feared the result of the MBE.
pie-
Tierney once again bloviating over his Chilean economist friend's private account versus ss. The slogan for that idiot should be,"If you can't think good, think fast."
I cannot wait to hear your 'cancellation" experience
Canceling Earthlink was no picnic, either. They really don't want to let you leave once they have you.
well, i'm off to lunch. talk to y'all freaks later!
Steve-
AOL puts all kinds of crap on your system and it will bog down. After you uninstall it use this freeware program to clean up the stuff left behind.
http://tinyurl.com/7fask
Good luck!
On a happy note, graduation was great yesterday. Unfortunately, we didn't get to hear the main speaker at the convocation, Maya Angelou! The Communication school's exercises followed it, and it meant we would have had to sit there for 5 1/2 hours. Instead, we listened to the MSU graduate that founded Roots, a clothing line based in Toronto that, of late, has outfitted some of the Olympic athletes, including the American teams.
How could George convince the public of his wankerdom?
The draft.
My guess is that they will begin offering citizenship to foreigners if they serve, or they will begin hiring and training mercenaries outright. There are already small programs in place for the first item, someadvertising in Mexico, etc. And the "contractors" and "private security personnel" seem steps in the direction of the second item.
Poppie - I could not survive that now. When I took the bar exam it was just 2 days long.
I can't believe you had to go for 3. I think you deserve some kind of medal - all of you have had to take the expanded bar exam.
I bow in your general direction.
Oh joy ... Our tax dollars at work. From tomorrow's NYT:
After spending more than $4.5 billion on screening devices to monitor the nation's ports, borders, airports, mail and air, the federal government is moving to replace or alter much of the antiterrorism equipment, concluding that it is ineffective, unreliable or too expensive to operate.
Many of the monitoring tools - intended to detect guns, explosives, and nuclear and biological weapons - were bought during the blitz in security spending after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Fredo CANNOT blame this on the Clenis.
QL in NY:
If you're coming to Eschacon,
I'll hold you to that.
Seriously, when you find it let
me know.
I'm curious about who does
baroque orchestral arrangements
of Pink Floyd.
spinoza, that was posted by pie™.
It can't seem to be able to use its own name.
Maybe it doesn't have one.
pie-sorry about that.
Poppie ... You just convinced me. I am only taking one state.
concluding that it is ineffective, unreliable or too expensive to operate.
Probably bought all that shit from Giuliani, Kerrik, Cheney & Pals, et al.
Fuckers.
No biggie, spinoza.
I can't believe you had to go for 3. I think you deserve some kind of medal - all of you have had to take the expanded bar exam.
[crossing myself after realizing that the Mass bar exam is a *mere* two day affair]
steve simels ... I might have asked you this before, but where do you go in the 'hood for Indian?
Look, I know there's a hardcore base of people for whom W. can do no wrong, no matter what. But based on the polling for SS, filibuster, and Schiavo, it looks like they're about 20-25% of the populace.
The other 75-80% appears to possess at least *some* degree of healthy skepticism, and we just haven't found a way to reach them directly or make our alternative more appealing.
I'm one of the first people to throw cold water when people start celebrating about how Plame or Gannon is going to be the downfall of the Republicans - we're not getting any traction because we're still just nibbling around the edges, and there's always enough doubt and uncertainty that the Republicans can spin and explain everything away.
But in the absence of successfully implementing a staggeringly unpopular policy (yes, raising taxes or starting a draft), we need some kind of truly shocking gaffe of candor. Another recording I'd love to hear would be a pre-9/11 one where someone tries to tell Bush that a big attack is in the works, to which he responds with something like, "Let 'em. It'd be the best thing that ever happened to me."
Steve, if you are paying by credit card (automatic deduction), you might be okay. When you want to change services, notify your credit card company you no longer want to make a payment to AOL.
SS,
All this time you were using AOHell,.....'splains everything.
From a breif skim of the comments, it would appear that you are attempting to slay the beast. Smart move.
And good luck.
.
Tena
Agreed on Earthlink. I had a business tangle with them at one time because of that. The company had a mindspring account that was cancelled just before I came in. Earthlink swallowed up mindspring shortly after. They keep billing us despite the cancellation letters etc. Finally got it closed, but I lost my cool several times on the phone.
kent
He just joined actually.
"Fredo CANNOT blame this on the Clenis.
Res Ipsa Loquitor"
Of course he can, just like Rummy probably stills says his military is the Clinton military.
steve simels ... I might have asked you this before, but where do you go in the 'hood for Indian?
Don't you just go to Curry Hill?
Prior Aelred - On the strong mayor thing -
It's not that simple, it turns out. This proposal (the Blackwood Proposal) was put together by the Repugs to get out ahead of the Democrats. The Repugs wanted everyone to vote on the strong mayor using this plan. I just found that out 2 days ago.
I did not vote for it. We are going to vote again in the fall, and it will be a different proposal on distributing power. It sounds much better.
Please don't ask me why there are going to be multiple votes on this - I have no idea. I honestly haven't paid that much attention. We have elections in Dallas every time we turn around. That's really not good - some need to be consolidated. People get election weary.
I understand turn out is high today.
My old ISP was bought by Earthlink, I never actually went to Earthlink and they still tried to bill me.
I will never use one that sends me discs in the mail.
Another recording I'd love to hear would be a pre-9/11 one where someone tries to tell Bush that a big attack is in the works, to which he responds with something like, "Let 'em. It'd be the best thing that ever happened to me."
FDR knew about Pearl Harbor and let it happen! It was necessary to convince America to shake of the doldrums and fight for her survivial. Ergo, it's all good.
QED
Don't you just go to Curry Hill?
Not if I want to stay in the 'hood. Plus, there's Curry Row (6th Street in the EV), Curry Hill (Lex in the high 20s/low 30s, Curry Row II (58th between 2nd/3rd) ...
FDR knew about Pearl Harbor and let it happen! It was necessary to convince America to shake of the doldrums and fight for her survivial. Ergo, it's all good.
That's why it only works if he says something spectacularly self-absorbed and callous about it.
He just joined actually.
OUCH
Pardon my ignorance, but what does QED stand for?
.
Lemon curry?
Res:
I'm not a fan of Indian, so I
can't help you out.
I'm sure there's a good place somewhere in the nabe,
but I have no idea.
Are you and Mr Not Res jonesing
for curry?
OH and NTodd,
Just got an early B-day present of Tiger intall/upgrade DVD in todays mail.
WooooooooHoooooooo.
.
Jennifer, any good Indian restaurants in LR?
Oh, I do love the all-you-can-eat Indian buffets...
Pardon my ignorance, but what does QED stand for?
BTW;
I want to thank all of you for
making fun of a decrepit old man.
pie - there are a couple of Indian restaurants, but none that I'd call particularly "good".
Eli - word.
Things are definitely going downhill for the Chimp. But it would be beautimous if Bush's facade would crumble publicly. That would be a real turning point.
steve simels
You think we are finished?
SS,
anytime, you old fart, anytime.
May I inquire after all of your
trick joints and other infirmities
aging?
.
quod erat demonstrandum
but none that I'd call particularly "good".
Too bad. Oh, well. Maybe one will open in the future.
This is beginning to look like a Smiley Face convention.
of aging, I meant to say. SS, is what you got contageous, through the internets?
.
Not if I want to stay in the 'hood. Plus, there's Curry Row (6th Street in the EV), Curry Hill (Lex in the high 20s/low 30s, Curry Row II (58th between 2nd/3rd) ...
So what constitutes "the 'hood"? My NYC geography is fairly limited.
Pardon my ignorance, but what does QED stand for?
QED = quod erat demonstrandum, Latin for "which was to be demonstrated". In other words, "I fucking proved it", but more genteel than that. Cuz it's Latin.
PS--And fuck HaloScan. Fuck it to hell. Or something.
Tena --
Always read the fine print before signing!
(You, too, steve simels -- AOL -- HEH!)
Off to Vespers
quod erat demonstrandum (that which is to be demonstrated)
Fucking Hell-o-scan ...
Q.E.D. stands for "quod erat demonstrandum," which translates to "that which was to be demonstrated."
Hey, Steve, thanx for the Ronnie Spector MP3!
Ever heard of a recording of "Lion Sleeps Tonight" by Eno from 72 or so? I've been looking for it...
Go Sun King!
QL-
That Pink Floyd album is Orchestral Maneuvers: The Music Of Pink Floyd. There's a sample of it at Amazon http://tinyurl.com/9s6lg
No, steve simels, you're dead meat. I'm sorry, I would be kinder, but that's the sort of thing that wingnuts do, tell you a fancy story to disguise the truth.
Ripping the claws of AOL out of an unsuspecting CPU is an ugly, messy business and nothing that should be attempted outside of the command line.
Leaving Earthlink? Yes, my ISP was absorbed by them, and the next thing I knew I as having money deducted from accounts - despite my having told them I did not want my account 'transferred' to them. I finally took them before the AZ Corporation Commission, where previously I had had good luck in damaging ATT, and finally made it clear that the next time they tried to 'withdraw' money from my account I would personally ensure that they were arrested and thrown in jail for fraud and attempted fraud, along with felony theft.
And, btw, just picked up this thru Google - Lord, what a non-specific enquiry will generate:
Stormfront White Nationalist Community
Racialist discussion board for pro-White activists and anyone else ... welcome for questions of content: Jane Plotke (cd078@gwpda.org) or for questions of ... www.stormfront.org/archive/t-123801Emperor_ Wilhelms_speech_1914_Aug_4th.html - 53k - Cached - Similar pages
I'm going to go eat my nice devilled ham samwich and have a nap. Saturday afternoon - what could be more pleasant.
Lemon curry?
Adam Curry.
Just got an early B-day present of Tiger intall/upgrade DVD in todays mail.
Cool! I've heard the install is pretty painless, though some people are having problems with mail after. Good luck and godspeed!
Oooh, I am really wanting to upgrade to Tiger.
I hope everyone who has it will keep telling us how it's going.
I don't think FDR would have let Japan destroy that large a percentage of the pacific fleet. My parents told me that everyone who followed the news knew that eventually Japan would get around to attacking the islands. They also knew that when the United States responded then the mutual defense pacts between Japan and the Nazis would kick in.
One thing that could have had an impact on why Roosevelt didn't do something earlier is that Hitler was very popular with lots of Republicans, especially in the mid-west. He was popular with lots of others too because he was against the godless communists. Just like ever single fascist dicatator since the war was popular with our fascists here. If Roosevelt had attacked Japan earlier there would have been political hell to pay and since he knew he was going to be at war soon that wouldn't have been helpful.
I know none of the above is news.
Thanks Res, for trying, and underwhelm for succeeding. They dropped Latin from my highschool a couple of years afore I got there. I was not pleased.
.
Earthlink = scientology
AOL = Time Warner oligarchy
Neither one is a desireable option IMHO
So what constitutes "the 'hood"? My NYC geography is fairly limited.
NTodd ... I am near Columbia, you know, the university David Horror-witless says is overrun by "Stalinist Mobs."
Pardon my ignorance, but what does QED stand for?
Res Ipsa Loquitor 5:02 pm
Quod erat demonstrandum
thus is it shown...
often used in conjunctiuon with "ipso facto;..." = 'By the facts themselves'...
domine vobiscum!
The Bush Administrations Competency : Q.E.D.
The Bush Administrations response to disclosure of their compentency ; Quid Pro Quo.
Pardon my ignorance, but what does QED stand for?:
"Quod Erat Demonstrandum"
"That which was to be shown"
-Old way to end an argument/mathematical proof, if you were locker mates with Thomas Aquinas.
Classics majors do it till you want to spondee your dactyl.
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum
Are you and Mr Not Res jonesing
for curry?
steve simels ... HA! Not-Mister has, by his own admission, an "Irish stomach," i.e., he eats paste and paste only. Hell, he doesn't even eat. He "grazes." I am a pretty good cook and my efforts are utterly wasted on Not-Mister, who obviously needs replacing.
After spending more than $4.5 billion on screening devices to monitor the nation's ports, borders, airports, mail and air, the federal government is moving to replace or alter much of the antiterrorism equipment, concluding that it is ineffective, unreliable or too expensive to operate.
No shit, Sherlock.
Now, you could have worked much of this out by talking to foreign travellers in US airports. Except that if you're a foreigner in a US airport, you're actually scared of pointing out glaring security holes in case you get shoved into one of those little rooms.
Oh, and I noticed that visitors now have to be photographed and fingerprinted as they leave the US: what the fuck? What are they going to do if you refuse? Force you to stay?
Lemon curry?
Adam Curry.
Tim Curry?
NTodd--Larry says you can take a break now.
Cyril Connelly?
I am a pretty good cook and my efforts are utterly wasted on Not-Mister, who obviously needs replacing.
Look at all those hands go up!
Cool! I've heard the install is pretty painless, though some people are having problems with mail after.
Backup your mail folders and import them manually, rather than trusting the auto-import: the format of Mail.app messages changes from unified mailboxes to one-file-per-message (for Spotlight searching) and it's not always smooth.
And remove any third-party plugins or bundles for Mail, since they're pretty much all incompatible with Tiger.
Apart from that, it's sweet.
"If Roosevelt had attacked Japan earlier there would have been political hell to pay"
He didn't have the military resources to have done so anyway from what I have read. We would have been pretty well outclassed at that point, as we were right after Pearl Harbor. But when we cook, we cook.
anyone have a favorite for the Derby?
with the Yankees in the cellar one almost feels bad for Steinbrenner (almost) but no money down on Bellamy Road. Bandido.
I have little patience for people who can't appreciate good food.
dave:
Glad you liked the Ronnie song.
The Eno "Lion Sleeps Tonight"
is ringing a big bell....I think
I had it at some point.
I was on the Island Records mailing
list back then and I used to get
singles up the wazoo.
Let me do the research.......
Oh, and I noticed that visitors now have to be photographed and fingerprinted as they leave the US: what the fuck? What are they going to do if you refuse? Force you to stay?
Sounds like a pretty fucking good deterrent to me...
RealTexan
Oh, thank you so much. Steve gets a glass of Chardonnay, you get the bottle.
Tim Curry?
Curry Te Kanawa.
(Now craving a nice veggie jalfrezi...)
But when we cook, we cook.
We are *sooo* not-cooking.
My step dad was allergic to everything so my Italian mother had to cook bland meat and ungarlicked potatoes all the time.
Feh!
Tim Curry?
Curry Te Kanawa.
Curryaanisqatsi.
Cool! I've heard the install is pretty painless, though some people are having problems with mail after. Good luck and godspeed!
Thats good to hear, and as I have yet to use mail, I expect a smooth ride. I'll let you know how it turns out.
If I do run into any problems, I was planning to reformat, partition, and reinstall from scratch at some point anyway.
And while I am at it miscellaneous Deadform blogging, or What the cat left on the dining room rug
Warning, not for the squeamish.
did I mention that I have my very own digicam now?
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"We are *sooo* not-cooking."
I know. The problem is it takes a catastrophe to get us into our game.
Ever heard of a recording of "Lion Sleeps Tonight" by Eno from 72 or so? I've been looking for it...
dave
I used to have a copy. As a concept it seems like it would be awesome, but I never cared for it, and I like Eno a lot.
His version is very similar in feel to "I'll Come Running To Tie Your Shoes" from Another Green World so it's not poppy enough for my taste. A little too placid.
Eli you sweetie ...
steve simels ... You ever read that "Rolling Stone" article of a few years back about the African guy who wrote that song (and got screwed out of gazillions in royalties)? Who first recorded that song? "King" someone?
I know none of the above is news.
EPTX -- 5:08 pm
i for one never believed it was a coincidence thaqt all tyhe carriers were at sea...
was Henry Stimson SecOfWar then? i think so...
like some antideluvian Rumsfeldtian precursor, he modernized the Navy by getting most of the obsolete part of it sunk at Pearl...
Kent
That was disturbing. Very disturbing.
Eli you sweetie ...
Just trying to get on the list.
Oooh, I am really wanting to upgrade to Tiger.
I hope everyone who has it will keep telling us how it's going.
Tena
I installed Tiger last weekend. I like it. It's not radically different from Panther, but it does have a few nifty new doohickeys and it runs a little smoother. The only problem was that it made my Mac slow down considerably, so I had to fork over about 90 bucks for a memory upgrade. Just as well, I was overdue for more RAM anyway and getting Tiger was just the kick in the ass I needed.
QL-
Glad to oblige, I had that at one time but I loaned it out and can't remember who has it. I really need to keep a list of who has my books, dvds and cds...
That was disturbing. Very disturbing.
Yes. Yes, it was, in a micro-Lecter kinda way.
NTodd ... I am near Columbia, you know, the university David Horror-witless says is overrun by "Stalinist Mobs."
Ah, that's significantly further North than I'm familiar with.
Sallyh,
I was gonna offer RealTeaxan some of your brownies in payment for finding the name of the album I have been searching for, but decided that would be rude, since I didn't ask you first.
May I?
Eli ... Do you like to eat? All this joker eats are pretzels and Irish Soda Bread.
pseudonymous in nc,
Thanks for the reminder. I now seem to remember that spotlight might attempt to hose something I have presently configured, and that there was a workaround.
I must research this a bit before upgrading.
.
Greater Good 57-1
Bandini 6-1
Bellamy Road 5-2
Zito is training fiver different horses for five different owners.
Eli ... Do you like to eat? All this joker eats are pretzels and Irish Soda Bread.
You better believe it. I'm close to omnivorous, except for cilantro and most cooked seafood.
I'm putting all of my retirement on Bandini
I never engage the wing nuts. I only pray for the day when I can send as many to fucking hell as I can.
Zito is training fiver different horses for five different owners.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
I think the Steinbrenner subplot is fantastic theater. Kind of like playing the "spin this" game with anything Bush does, I can think of interpretations of a win or a loss by Bellamy Road that can be spun to embarrass the Yankees.
High Fly or Bandini, I can't decide. what to do what to do.
Folks, arm yourselves and join me removing them from the gene pool.
Eli ... WHat's the problem with cilantro? And why only cooked seafood? I'd understand if you didn't any seafood, but why only cooked?
ECTK,
Imagine the discovery, bleary eyed from sleep, and without the fortifying effects of coffee. Oh and the realization that you almost stepped into it with stocking feet.
Now that's disturbing.
.
Greater Good 57-1
My brother just put $5 on Greater Good for me.
You better believe it. I'm close to omnivorous, except for cilantro and most cooked seafood.
Eli
My prosciutto-wrapped, goat-cheese-stuffed, olive-oil sauteed shrimp would convert you...
You know what a 12-gauge shotgun can do. I will blow a complete hole in a body about 8' wide. If your far back enough, a head shot will completely peal off the head. The wing nuts think they're going to have me put in a concentration camp better think again.
Ah, that's significantly further North than I'm familiar with.
NTodd ... Next time you're in tell me and I will take you for a tour of the sights in the hood, which include the Cathedral of St. John the Divine, Riverside Church, Grant's Tomb (no one is burried there as it's a mausoleum), and the home of the aforementioned Stalinist mobs.
Folks, arm yourselves and join me removing them from the gene pool.
Ô¿Ô
Um, how about not?
res:
shrimp vindaloo here. thanks for reminding me.
Eli ... WHat's the problem with cilantro? And why only cooked seafood? I'd understand if you didn't any seafood, but why only cooked?
I'm not sure if I have an innate dislike for cilantro, or if it was conditioned into me by our chef my junior year, who seriously overused it - it was like eating stir-fried soap.
Seafood generally doesn't do anything for me (I like scallops and can tolerate clams & shrimp, but fish & crab & lobster, I just don't see what the fuss is about), but I really like sushi. It doesn't make any sense to me either.
Greater Good 57-1
Figures the odds are against the greater good.
My prosciutto-wrapped, goat-cheese-stuffed, olive-oil sauteed shrimp would convert you...
I don't mind shrimp. Actually not a big fan of prosciutto, however...
Res:
Vaguely recall it....
gonna do a google.
Yes. Yes, it was, in a micro-Lecter kinda way.
I sometimes wonder which of the smiling cats is the one with the capability to eviscerate me in my sleep on the occasion I discover such precise "work".
Then I tell myself to "think unsexy thoughts, think unsexy thoughts" as I travel down the elevator with Mindy.
.
Eli ... Do you like to eat?
FYI, I can eat Eli under the table.
I can eat...50 eggs.
Just sayin'.
As long as I'm trying to think of stuff I *don't* like, add any kind of bitter veggies to that as well, like that bitter lettuce-y stuff, and radicchio.
Also parsley and dill.
But I like *everything* else. Really!
RIL - deal. I love Stalinists almost as much as good Indian!
I'm close to omnivorous, except for cilantro...
You too? Tastes vaugely like soap to me.
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not a big fan of prosciutto
WTF is wrong with you, man?
BTW:
While I'm writing this, I'm
listening to disc one of THE
STORY OF THEM, i.e., Van Morrison's
sixties r&b band.
I'd forgotten how good most of it
is.
Right now, I'm hearing "Don't Look
Back" (not the Dylan song) which
is about as gorgeous a soul ballad
as anybody has ever done.
Someday I want to own a bar where
I can program the jukebox with
this stuff.
WTF is wrong with you, man?
My taste buds do have a *bit* of a contrarian streak...
At least I got over my dislike of mushrooms. Mmm, portabellos...
That disgusting Little Geneva site's featured post was the very epitome of wingnut thought. A whining diatribe of how they were being picked on by some of those mean liberals, followed up by a jaw-droppingly ignorant racist dissertation that could have been sucked right out of Houston Stewart Chamberlain.
As The Poor Man said, the only difference between this gang and the Rush/LoofahMeister crowd is a matter of substituting codewords and adhering to "mainstream" topics, i.e., applied racism instead of racist theory.
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I'm close to omnivorous, except for cilantro...
You too? Tastes vaugely like soap to me.
It's an acquired taste, and look out! once you acquire it. You won't be able to get enough of it.
My prosciutto-wrapped, goat-cheese-stuffed, olive-oil sauteed shrimp would convert you...
I would imagine so. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
.
ril,
never bet online before. just tried to register, but the credit card company won't process it. wsasn't there just a crackdown on Credit Card companies doing this?
anyone know a good online bookie?
I have little patience for people who can't appreciate good food.
underwhelm
Me either. I have a straight friend locally who only eats to provide calories. That's all he looks at it. And he only mostly eats beef.
not a big fan of prosciutto
WTF is wrong with you, man?
NTodd
Yeah, what's up with that. Must be an alien.
I have a straight friend
Oh, what a target-rich statement, Incog.
just finished the carrot slaw, and the corn is soaking, and the grille is fired up, ready for some grain-fed NY Strips. all that's left is the curry fried potatoes.
carnivore Saturday, how I treasure thee.
BANDINI
the surname of one of the legendary Ferrari Formula 1 drivers of my youth, in the era of Jim Clark, John Surtees, Jochen Rindt, et al...
stationed in europe in the mid '60s, i spent a lot of weekends driving to and from between the F1 tracks...
...
Try grilling radicchio after you've drizzled it with olive oil, s and p, until it has some nice grill marks and then splash it with balsamic vinegar. Gaida de Laurentis also adds quartered heads of romaine and endive to the mix.
It's fab.
My prosciutto-wrapped, goat-cheese-stuffed, olive-oil sauteed shrimp would convert you...
Gah, I'm feeling faint after that.
I can eat...50 eggs.
Just sayin'.
Drift ... Who are you? Cool Hand Luke?
Try grilling radicchio after you've drizzled it with olive oil, s and p, until it has some nice grill marks and then splash it with balsamic vinegar. Gaida de Laurentis also adds quartered heads of romaine and endive to the mix.
It's fab.
Hell, that sounds like it'd make *roadkill* taste good...
Drift ... Who are you? Cool Hand Luke?
Just thinking about that scene makes me want to retch. And feel peckish. Weird.
Once had proscuitto-wrapped shrimp served in a pool of veal demi-glace at La Tomate on Connecticut Ave.
TO. DIE. FOR.
Seafood generally doesn't do anything for me (I like scallops and can tolerate clams & shrimp, but fish & crab & lobster, I just don't see what the fuss is about), but I really like sushi. It doesn't make any sense to me either.
With the exception of salmon, shrimp, and the occasional red snapper, I don't make a lot of fish because there are a lot of cooks who do that stuff better than me. So I wait to order it when I'm out.
I make a lot of very basic stuff, but I make it well. I am, however, a total slob in the kitchen. The place looks like a bomb went off after I'm through. This is an area in which my relationship with Not-Mister works, though, as he is a cleaning freak. He actually likes to clean.
pie,
I do have to admit that I am much more tolerant of cilantro now than when I first tasted it and accused the dishwasher of not properly rinsing the bowl and thereby ruining the salsa that a fellow cook had whipped up for some quesadilla's.
That was 14-15 years ago so the aquisition is taking a bit of time.
I will keep it in mind however.
It doesn't turn a body into a bug-eyed lunatic does it?
.
Hell, that sounds like it'd make *roadkill* taste good...
Roadkill. The very sound of that makes one's skin crawl, so I don't think so.
But on almost everything else? Yes.
Who wants to head for the market for me?
And who would be willing to pay for it?
I make a lot of very basic stuff, but I make it well. I am, however, a total slob in the kitchen. The place looks like a bomb went off after I'm through. This is an area in which my relationship with Not-Mister works, though, as he is a cleaning freak. He actually likes to clean.
Uh-oh. Might have to take me off the list, unless FEMA's on your speed-dial.
Taking a break.....
Catch you all in a bit....
This is an area in which my relationship with Not-Mister works, though, as he is a cleaning freak. He actually likes to clean.
Um, I'm going to have to consult the Big Boy's Book of Rules, but I think this is a major disqualifier. Worse than Mr. Tena's weekly purchase of roses. We might have to revoke Not-Mister's membership.
sorry sallyh, just got back from the market. thick steaks don't grow on trees ya know!
More BANDINI
Name: Lorenzo Bandini
Nationality: Italy
Date of birth: December 21, 1935 - Barce, Cyrenaica, Libya
Date of death: May 10, 1967 - Monte Carlo
Lorenzo Bandini, Monaco GP 1967© The Cahier ArchiveBorn in Italian North Africa, Bandini was three when World War II broke out and the family moved back to Florence where he grew up. He was apprenticed to a local garage in 1951 and after five years had made enough money to open his own garage. He had always wanted to race but until he had his own business did not have the money to do it. He started competing in 1957 in a Fiat 1100 which was borrowed from one of his customers and started out in hillclimb events and the following year he came to the attention of the racing world with a class victory on the Mille Miglia in a Lancia Appia Zagato. Later that year he had enough money to buy a Volpini Formula Junior car and for the next two years he raced in Formula Junior. In the Spring of 1961 Mimmo Dei, the boss of the Scuderia Centro-Sud team, invited Bandini to race an F1 Cooper-Maserati at the non-championship Pau GP. He finished third behind Jim Clark and Jo Bonnier.
Scuderia Centro-Sud was closed down that winter but he had done enough to impress Enzo Ferrari and he was signed to be one of the drivers at Maranello for the 1962 season. He did mainly sportscar events but raced for the team at Monaco (where he finished third) and won the non-championship Enna GP in Sicily. It was a similar story in 1963. Bandini won the Le Mans 24 Hours with Lodovico Scarfiotti and then Mimmo Dei revived Scuderia Centro-Sud and bought a BRM and Bandini began racing that at the French GP. At the end of the year Ferrari claimed him back and he was number two to John Surtees until 1966 when he replaced the Englishman as Ferrari team leader.
Bandini's greatest day came in 1964 when he won the first Austrian GP on the bumpy Zeltweg aerodrome circuit although there were other important victories for Ferrari in sporstcars, notably the Targa Florio in 1965 and the Daytona 24 Hours in 1967.
In May that year he was running second to Denny Hulme in the Monaco GP when he lost control at the chicane and crashed. The car overturned and caught fire and Bandini was trapped beneath the flaming wreck. It was several minutes before he was rescued and his burns were terrible. For three days he fought for his life before succumbing to his injuries.
Bandini Enroute...
That was 14-15 years ago so the aquisition is taking a bit of time.
I will keep it in mind however.
Hey, that's about when *I*... "discovered" it.
Did it suddenly become trendy in the early 90s? And is there someone I can go back in time and kill pre-emptively for that?
Eli--perhaps you are, as Thersites so delicately phrased it, differently tidy, as opposed to being a slob.
Cilantro never had to become trendy in LA. It's good stuff.
If I ever get involved with a guy again, no exception, he must be able to cook something besides sage and cream of chicken soup.
Eli--perhaps you are, as Thersites so delicately phrased it, differently tidy, as opposed to being a slob.
Some are more different than others.
It doesn't turn a body into a bug-eyed lunatic does it?
Laura Bush likes Mexican food. Tom DeLay?
But no, unless the wide-eyed look of pleasure on one's face when eating cilantro-laced foods makes one a lunatic.
wgg,
so you're saying Bandini is fast?
I'm going with
Bellamy Road
Bandini
Fly High
the Greater Good will, as usual, fall behind.
just finished the carrot slaw, and the corn is soaking, and the grille is fired up, ready for some grain-fed NY Strips. all that's left is the curry fried potatoes.
That tears it, I think my cooking muse just returned from a long sabatical. Time to marinate some steaks...or dry rub...
.
My prosciutto-wrapped, goat-cheese-stuffed, olive-oil sauteed shrimp would convert you...
rorschach
I just drooled on myself. God, that sounds tasty!
Eli, have you ever tried a shrimp or catfish po-boy? In south Louisiana, that's a great way to get in your seafood allowance.
And on cilantro -- sometimes it can be overkill. But in fresh salsa and in some creamy mexican dishes it is a delight. In moderation.
The only foods I really don't like are liver and mushrooms. I don't mind sauce made with mushrooms or the general flavor of, but I simply cannot bite into a big piece of 'shroom. The consistency is just too blech for me.
Beer batter deep-fried shrimp for me tonight. Sides of cream corn and a cole slaw my husband makes to die for.
Food, glorious food.
I put $50 on Bandini at Lone Star Park yesterday, I don't know what the odds are there on him right now.
Mmmmm - cilantro.
And no, throwing a couple of steaks on the grill doesn't cut it.
And no, throwing a couple of steaks on the grill doesn't cut it.
cut what?
Eli--perhaps you are, as Thersites so delicately phrased it, differently tidy, as opposed to being a slob.
Some are more different than others.
I celebrate my difference!
THE STORY OF THEM
Here comes the NIIIIIIGHT
dur durdur der
Ô¿Ô, I don't know. From what I've read here, you're a pretty damn good cook yourself. I'd love to try your gumbo. (Don't mean to start the gumbo wars.)
Eli, have you ever tried a shrimp or catfish po-boy? In south Louisiana, that's a great way to get in your seafood allowance.
Nope. Don't think I've ever had catfish at all, actually. Never been to Louisiana either, which could have something to do with it...
The only foods I really don't like are liver and mushrooms. I don't mind sauce made with mushrooms or the general flavor of, but I simply cannot bite into a big piece of 'shroom. The consistency is just too blech for me.
I can actually tolerate liver, but kidney and tongue are beyond the pale, mainly for... conceptual reasons.
My dad used to make salads with slices of those garden-variety white mushrooms, uncooked, and I think that kinda turned me off. But when I started eating cooked mushrooms, it turned me right around. And I like the consistency, too.
QL--Triple Chocolate Brownies
Melt in a large saucepot:
2 sq. dark chocolate, unsweetened
1 stick unsalted butter
When cool, beat in:
2 eggs
1 tbsp. creme de cacao or any other liqueur
Stir in to above mixture:
1 c. sugar (I use superfine but regular grade works fine)
Add:
3/4 c. flour
1/2 tsp. baking powder
1/2 tsp. salt
1-12 oz. bag dark bittersweet chocolate chips
Bake at 350 F for 30 min. or until sides pull away from the baking pan.
When cool, frost with chocolate cream cheese icing if desired.
Chocolate cream cheese icing:
2. c confectioners' sugar
1/4 c. unsalted butter
3. oz cream cheese
Chocolate liqueur or any other liqueur to achieve spreading consistency.
I use an electric mixer to get the icing where I want it.
And no, throwing a couple of steaks on the grill doesn't cut it.
cut what?
8 inches?
Did it suddenly become trendy in the early 90s? And is there someone I can go back in time and kill pre-emptively for that?
I believe so.
I have been working on that problem in the lab here for some time. Unfortunately, I have not solved it yet.
That and the Transporter. But you will be the first to know if and when a
solution is discovered.
.
cut what?
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Many men think they know how to cook because they can grill something. I'd like a guy who can cook something more complicated than that and understands slow cooking quality good eats.
I have been working on that problem in the lab here for some time. Unfortunately, I have not solved it yet.
That and the Transporter. But you will be the first to know if and when a
solution is discovered.
Maybe MIT can help.
And if not, please pay them a visit when you get it all sorted, and give them some pointers.
cream of chicken soup
Actually, that sounds pretty good, too. My tummy has been a bit upset today. I need creamy soothing foods.
But on the other hand, hubby and I are going to our local Alamo Drafthouse tonight to see Sin City. I'll just have to forego the pizza this time unless I really want to die from indigestion. And I don't think I'll really be hungry during the flick anyway. Love Robert Rodriguez, though.
Throwing a couple of steaks on the grill does indeed cut it, when marinated in this:
2 tbsp. olive oil
2 tsp. red wine vinegar
1 tsp. lemon juice
1/2 tsp. honey
1 tbsp. coarsely ground black pepper
all the minced garlic you can stand
Ô¿Ô, I don't know. From what I've read here, you're a pretty damn good cook yourself.
I am but it gets old having to be the one to cook because your partner only knows how to eat out.
I'd love to try your gumbo. (Don't mean to start the gumbo wars.)
mer -- 5:58 pm
in Nawlins, they don't call what Shreveporters eat 'gumbo', know what I mean?
a lotta folks'd tell ya ya can't get 'real' gumbo anywhere north of Alexandria
just sayin...
I'd like a guy who can cook something more complicated than that and understands slow cooking quality good eats.
I make a killer beef stroganoff.
I am but it gets old having to be the one to cook because your partner only knows how to eat out.
I'm going to take a pass on this one. I'm just going to lie back and enjoy...
But no, unless the wide-eyed look of pleasure on one's face when eating cilantro-laced foods makes one a lunatic.
Good to know. And the pleasure recieved from good food is related to no lunacy that I am aware of.
You do raise interesting points about Pickles, and the Bug Man, but I think their special brand of lunacy has other causes.
.
8 inches?
please don't talk about my steaks like that. they have real adequacy issues. being cut is one thing, but only 2.5 inches thick has taken its toll.
anyone catch the BBC story about the carniverous Dinosuars who turned vegetarian? they are now extinct. that'll show 'em!
NTodd--I heart stroganoff...now you've got me inspired for tonight
NTodd--I heart stroganoff...now you've got me inspired for tonight
Who *doesn't* love stroganoff?
1 to 2lbs stew beef
Family-sized can of cream of mushroom soup (or a couple small cans, and I prefer Campbell's)
Lipton Recipe Secrets soup mix (onion or beef)
8 oz sour cream (or plain yogurt)
Worcestershire sauce (I prefer Lea and Perrins)
Red wine (whatever's handy)
Celery seed
You big thilly.
Eli--I never had stroganoff growing up. Course, having Irish parents, everything was boiled and plain--if it had flavor, it couldn't be eaten.
in Nawlins, they don't call what Shreveporters eat 'gumbo', know what I mean?
a lotta folks'd tell ya ya can't get 'real' gumbo anywhere north of Alexandria
just sayin...
All in knowin' how to cook it.
And what to cook with.
My nephew, who spent time in southern LA., insists the further off the road you get, and deeper into the swamps, the better the cookin'
I'd like a guy who can cook something more complicated than that and understands slow cooking quality good eats.
You let me stay home and do the cookin', we've got a deal....
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari,
you have to admit President Bush has basically transformed the entire Arab world and started a trend towards democracy. Afghanistan and Iraq have never voted for their own national assemblies and president/prime ministers before. This is historic and we should give GWB some credit where credit is due. I'm not biased enough to deny him that.
And no, throwing a couple of steaks on the grill doesn't cut it.
I beg to differ.
I am fixing to grill 1-1/2" marinated ribeyes (olive oil, cayenne, black pepper, Zatarain's Creole Seasoning, Old Granddad) smoked with maple. Medium rare.
Side dish: Mashed steamed sweet potatoes with chipotle peppers.
Try it. You'll like it.
Who *doesn't* love stroganoff?
Are we back to the Star Wars thread again?
Eli--perhaps you are, as Thersites so delicately phrased it, differently tidy, as opposed to being a slob.
Some are more different than others.
I celebrate my difference!
I tell my wife I'm absorbed with Big Thoughts, and so have no room in my head for small concerns like where things belong, or where they were last.
She just ignores me, though....
Many men think they know how to cook because they can grill something. I'd like a guy who can cook something more complicated than that and understands slow cooking quality good eats.
more complicated than Gung Tiparot and Nam Pla, prepared on the grille?
but I will say my bbq leg of lamb with lemon yogurt is always more than 8.5, uncut.
I have to admit that despite what all the gloom and doom sayers predicted, President Bush did end up doing a masterful job in Afghanistan and Iraq. But I think his domestic agenda has been less successful than his foreign policy triumphs. I think history will find him a great president re: international affairs, but only a mediocre one in domestic affairs.
Afghanistan and Iraq have never voted for their own national assemblies and president/prime ministers before. This is historic and we should give GWB some credit where credit is due. I'm not biased enough to deny him that.
Perhaps. But the value of that has yet to be determined.
Hitler, after all, won an election.
a lotta folks'd tell ya ya can't get 'real' gumbo anywhere north of Alexandria
just sayin...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar (aka...)
I'm creole french which is all over this state. My gumbo is creole style. Fuck a cajun and their so-called cuisine. They stole it from us, anyway.
Are we back to the Star Wars thread again?
No, I think it's far more horrific if we use food. Star Wars movies are easier for people to avoid, but if we can make people avoid their favorite foods, then we've really accomplished something.
Who *doesn't* love stroganoff?
Me. Too damn rich.
I've been teaching my wife to cook, because she comes out of an alternative Southern tradition where women took pride in not being able to cook.
anyone know a good online bookie?
Hm. I go with the British/Irish ones (registered in Gibraltar) though I have British credit cards which don't get stopped.
(Went to Churchill Downs when Herself was interviewing in Louisville a few years back. Wasn't a race day. The lack of betting shops in the US was a big surprise when I moved over.)
And if not, please pay them a visit when you get it all sorted, and give them some pointers.
Eli
+++++++++++++++++++++
Why not. The Kansas School Board is getting ready to change the definition of science. I think I will go to Johns Hopkins and give them some pointers. I don't need any facts to back it up.I know what I know.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 6:08 pm | #
Oh, good grief.
As if.
Hitler, after all, won an election.
what the hell does that have to do with anything? So every election in history, before and after is illigitimate because Hitler won an election. In fact, he DIDN'T win an election, he didn't even win a majority of seats. Do some googling and read history. He used backroom dealmaking and pressure to assume control of the German government. That is nothing like the Iraq situation.
Wow, Sallyh's tone has completely changed. It's like she's a whole different person or something.
I'd like a guy who can cook something more complicated than that and understands slow cooking quality good eats.
That's one reason, though, why British cooking gets a bad rap: the best stuff is slow-cooked (as opposed to being boiled into submission) which means it rarely ends up in restaurants. It's something that's rarely done at home these days, too, since it dates back to when my parents were kids.
Drift ... Who are you? Cool Hand Luke?
So nice to be around people who have seen...stuff.
Thersites | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 6:08 pm | #
Oh, good grief.
As if.
That is nothing like the Iraq situation.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Ah, I see.
Suspicions are in order.
psuedonymous
yeah, there isn't a track in driving distance to us, so no bets this year.
billy b,
we use fried onions, peppers, mushrooms, and green onions with our homefries. corn, carrot slaw, good to go. my glaze is similar to sallyh's, but with red wine instead of vinegar.
Unfortunately, it'd take something like the end of The Dead Zone...
Eli
Assuming I remember the end of the movie correctly, Rove would just issue talking points that chimpy was so concerned about innocent children that he was really trying to protect the tyke and just couldn't manage to get his body in the correct position.
1 day later, Glenn Reynolds: "Are we really so cynical that we would criticise a War President for not having olympic-quality gymnastic skills?"
2 days later, Rushbo: "My friends, some of the liberals out there would have you believe that Bush is a coward, but look how decisively he snatched up that small child in a desparate attempt.."
3 days later, PowerLine: "The video timestamp is all wrong!"
-
illigitimate
Oy. Silly *sally*
In fact, he DIDN'T win an election, he didn't even win a majority of seats.
Depends on what point in the Reich's history you're talking about. After convincing Hindy to give him the Chancellory, he did go on to win plebiscites with about the same percentages as Saddam.
Food!! yummm.
As for the original subject of the post- these people are fucking crazy. And you can't argue with insane folks.
It's a waste of goddamned time.
Only the most rabid partisan would try to deny that things are improving in the Arab world, but although Bush deserves SOME credit, its not totally due to overthrowing Saddam. Also, other Arabs seeing Iraqis going to the polls has started a real shift in the Middle East. A leading Egyptian dissident spoke on an Egyptian talkshow recently about how the Arabs need to look toward Israel on how to form a democracy. This would have been unthinkable before the war. I think Arafat dying plus the overthrow of Saddam has helped change things over there. Don't give Bush too much credit.
Fake Thersites said :
you have to admit President Bush has basically transformed the entire Arab world and started a trend towards democracy. Afghanistan and Iraq have never voted for their own national assemblies and president/prime ministers before. This is historic and we should give GWB some credit where credit is due. I'm not biased enough to deny him that.
your thoughts on yesterday's historic elections in Palestine, Fake Thersites?
I have to admit that despite what all the gloom and doom sayers predicted, President Bush did end up doing a masterful job in Afghanistan and Iraq.
So masterful that a "safe" 6 mile trip to Baghdad airport only costs $30,000. You must live in that alternate universe from Star Trek, the one where Spock has a beard and says things like "the agony booth is a most efficient means of discipline".
Mmm... agony booth...
Since renamed to "fraternity hazing booth".
Best write-up I've seen on the Kansas idiocy from the Indy:
"I'm a little confused by the prebiotic soup," board member Connie Morris blurted out at one point. Her colleague Kathy Martin offered to help out. "We can't see a soup in nature, so talking about it is not naturalistic. It's speculation." Everyone seemed quite satisfied with that sentiment, and the proceedings moved on.
Anyone got a good recipe for prebiotic soup?
Central Scrutinizer | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 6:17 pm | #
This troll is so sure of himself and his unique view of the Middle East that he steals others' names when he posts.
Evening, 'bats. How's it hanging?
Just planted an herb garden in conatiners on the back porch. In about two months you can all come over and get some parsley, basil, sage and oregano. Tomatoes from the farmer's market, about 3 hours of work, and it's pasta dinner.
Mmmm. I love warm weather.
A.
He used backroom dealmaking and pressure to assume control of the German government. That is nothing like the Iraq situation.
Hey speaking of Bush Administration Baldfaced Lie Pez Dispense and personal Love Mole of Dame Judith Miller...Deputy Prime Minister in charge of oil, Ahmad Chalabi...
Wow, Atrios posts about wingnuts and out they come. It's like the the Beastmaster, only he's the Wingnutmaster.
So nice to be around people who have seen...stuff.
Paul Newman ... beyond stuff. "Hud" ... mmmmm.
Paul Newman: smart.
Paul Newman: hot.
Paul Newman: liberal.
Wow, Atrios posts about wingnuts and out they come. It's like the the Beastmaster, only he's the Wingnutmaster.
What? Wingnuts? Why, all I see is regulars, suddenly saying things that they have never ever said before.
Before living in Italy, I could hardly cook at all. After four years in Milan, I became a pretty good cook. Was a fanatic with the kids, making my own baby food. Sixteen years, I prepared three meals a day, from scratch. Never used a can of soup.
Those days are over. The only thing I have cooked in the past two years is bacon and eggs. Take out is a wonderful thing in NYC.
It's a waste of goddamned time.
fourlegsgood
Many of them are still at the phase where you can reason with the facts and truth and somehow the wing nuts can't help but see the truth. I'm way past that. I'm just waiting until it become legal in a revolution to eliminate the royalists.
I've always felt prebiotic soup was the very definition of naturalistic. kathy martin seems to prefer the social realistic, modernistisic, or whackjobistic interprative gestures regarding prebiotic soup.
poppieprong:"But what it came down to, over and over again, was that Bush was a good Christian."
And what matters in this version of Christianity is not works but faith alone. As Rev. Mohler put it on "Just Us" Sunday:"Our main message is salvation by faith alone."
We're grilling Basque wings and I won't read the whole article you posted until later, but I did see this at the end:
"I am definitely in the minority," Jonathan Wells proclaimed proudly at one point. "I enjoy being in the minority." Someone shouted out: "More than being right"" The good student of Sun Myung Moon chose not to answer.
Oy fucking vey.
Athanae,
Sounds wonderful! I put in tarragon and coleus today and mulched a couple of beds. I'm off to the farmers' market in the morning, but it's too soon here for 'maters. 
Atrios posts about wingnuts and out they come. It's like the the Beastmaster, only he's the Wingnutmaster
Yeah. With similar problems to the Beastmaster's. Freakin' poop everywhere...
Why, all I see is regulars, suddenly saying things that they have never ever said before.
They finally achieved enlightenment after pondering this koan: what is the sound of one Republican fuck over the entire world?
Ô¿Ô,
President Dean.
Secretary of Education, Madame Lafarge.
I can feature that.
Do we really want this woman to get the nomination in '08? A criminal investigation involving Hillary Clinton's former finance director, David Rosen, who has been indicted for violation of federal campaign finance laws. The charges grow out of a Hollywood fundraiser in August 2000, at which stars like Cher and Melissa Etheridge performed. The investigation took a lurid turn when it developed that Ted Kennedy's brother-in-law, Ray Reggie, was cooperating with federal investigators and had secretly taped some of his conversations with top Democratic operatives, including Rosen.
Louisiana's Times-Picayune has now obtained a partial transcript of Reggie's taped conversation with Rosen over dinner in Chicago. The transcript is damning, in that it appears to support the government's claim that Rosen knowingly mis-accounted for the event's expenses, so as to maximize "hard money" raised via the event, and minimize "soft money." But the conversation between Rosen and Reggie ranged into topics far more entertaining than campaign finance:
The chitchat ranges from speculation that a wealthy Clinton donor was using cocaine to lusty remarks by Rosen about the donor's young daughter. Rosen does not hesitate to disparage President Clinton, noting that he began calling regularly -- once a week -- after Rosen went to work for Hillary Clinton. "Go screw yourself , Mr. President," Rosen says, pretending to pick up one such call.
The salaciousness reaches its pinnacle with Rosen's rambling anecdote about a fat cat Clinton donor who said after a night of partying that he sent prostitutes to the hotel rooms of two top Clinton loyalists.
"So the next day, (one of the loyalists) calls (the donor) from the golf course with Clinton," Rosen told Reggie. "Clinton gets on the phone, he goes, I just wanna tell you something. . . . The day I'm outta office, I'm going out with you."
And I thought this anecdote about Al Gore was revealing:
Rosen added that he'll never work for Gore again. The former vice president, whom he thought he knew well, failed to recognize him at an event.
"I won't cross the street for that guy," he said. "I was willing to get talked back into another round with his ass. And I went to an event, and he was there. And I'm with him one-on-one a hundred times. At least. And he thought I was the valet parker."
I can't help wondering why none of this constitutes a "scandal." It's not that campaign finance is too boring a topic for the mainstream media; consider the newsprint that has been devoted to the indictment of several of Tom DeLay's aides on campaign finance charges. If the indictment of DeLay's aides by a long-discredited Democratic activist in Travis County, Texas, is a big news story, then why isn't the indictment of Hillary Clinton's finance director by the Justice Department an equally big story? It's often said that newspapers focus on lurid stories to boost circulation; if that's true, why aren't they jumping all over a story that features, as the Times-Picayune's headline put it, sex, lies and secret tape recordings? Not to mention the Kennedys, the Clintons, and a supporting cast of Hollywood stars. Hmmm. I can't think of any explanation for the mainstream media's sudden reticence.
Paul Newman ... beyond stuff. "Hud"
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Man, don't get me started on Paul Newman.
Athenae, someone just did a demo at the store using uncooked pasta sauces. She and her husband sell pasta and sauces all over the country. Everything was delicious.
I'll send you recipes if you like.
They finally achieved enlightenment after pondering this koan: what is the sound of one Republican fuck over the entire world?
Is that related to the "What is the sound of one hand wanking a horse" koan?
Oh my, all these namestealers, I'm so confused and don't know who to trust. Whatever shall I do?
"Hud" ... mmmmm.
And Patricia Neal in same.
Mmmmm.
Late night reruns of her in "The Fountainhead" almost tempted me to the Dark Side
But "The Day The Earth Stood Still" cured me.
Name-stealing dirtbags for freedom.
Man, don't get me started on Paul Newman.
QL, honey ... If he were 20 years younger we could have nominated that man to run against Fredo and he would have won in a freaking LANDSLIDE.
Loading the gate - Go Bandini!!!
Hey, fake pie, go fuck yourself.
I'll take Clinton over that stupid hypocritical, fake christian, murderer any day.
georgie needs to go to prison.
NOW.
Scumbag.
Yeah. With similar problems to the Beastmaster's. Freakin' poop everywhere...
Fake Thersites (AHAGGERT99@yahoo.com)
your thoughts on yestreday's historic elections in Palestine? Can you believe Fatah got 56 to Islamic Reistsance Movements 33?
and they are off!
Is that related to the "What is the sound of one hand wanking a horse" koan?
That one's so easy!
This namestealer is even copying posters homepages in the address line. But not to worry, it's still easy to figure out who they are.
Hey namestealer!
You forgot to mention that Hillary murdered Vince Foster and that Bill Clinton got a blow job!
Why is every troll dumber than dirt?
"That one's so easy!"
The answer is "Nay"
Your argument must really be in trouble when you resort to name-stealing to argue it. What scumbags wing nuts are.
And what matters in this version of Christianity is not works but faith alone. As Rev. Mohler put it on "Just Us" Sunday:"Our main message is salvation by faith alone."
Not even faith. Just associating with the right people, saying the right things about them, and agreeing on the right idea.
Parrot the right line, you're in like Flynn.
I think it involves a secret handshake, and the transfer of gelt or something.
I think it involves a secret handshake, and the transfer of gelt or something.
Well, if it's gelting they want...
Oh well $50 down the drain
Wow.
You mean that long winded pointless diatribe against Hillary that I stopped reading after the first line, wasn't by "real" pie?
I'd never have guessed....
There is an interesting guy on AAR's "Ring of Fire" discussing Al Jazeera.
Someone just made some money.
What a great race.
Oh my, all these namestealers, I'm so confused and don't know who to trust.
With regards to their dishonesty, I wonder, would Christ approve? I think not.
Giacamo! Mentioned that one upthread, hooray!
Take that Steinbrenner, ya bastid.
Giacomo wins the Kentucky Derby. Tantric horses ahoy.
Man, the awesome power of the Clenis continues to hold sway over wingnuttia, doesn't it? They just can't get over it; he got a blowjob! Women love him! She's smart and powerful! Wahahahahha!
I also love how fake Pie thinks everybody is just dying for a Clinton run in 2008.
"the biggest hug a man can give a man."
even better than a hand job.
you have to admit President Bush has basically transformed the entire Arab world and started a trend towards democracy..
Fake Thersites
Our manly 24 style hero has a grudge against an escaped criminal that threatened his dad. Said protagonist puts out a completely false story that the evil one is on his way to set off a dirty bomb. He then launches an RPG into said bus, resulting in the deaths of 43 people.
When called on his criminal action, the hero asks, "Aren't you glad that the evil one is gone? Are you pro-criminal?"
Nope, doesn't really work on a small scale, either.
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RMJ,
Yeah, it almost fooled me, too, except that pie never cuts and pastes. For some reason, trolls often do. Hmmmm......
Someone just made some money.
What a great race.
Shit! WHo were the top 3 long shots? I had my brother put money on the 3 horses with the worst odds.
Many men think they know how to cook because they can grill something. I'd like a guy who can cook something more complicated than that and understands slow cooking quality good eats.
Incognito, I greatly resent your stuck up attitude. Why just tonight, this bomb-throwing, lefty communistic democrat is going to have a grilled Xtian baby.
This is historic and we should give GWB some credit where credit is due. I'm not biased enough to deny him that.
Bush did end up doing a masterful job in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Pardon the delay, but i got roped into an air conditioning installation, so I am way behind.
These are Jokes, Right?
Gotta finish the job, but should be back soon.
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I want to know who stole all the fences at Churchill Downs.
georgie needs to go to prison.
Georgie 43 has to make that embarassing call to George 41...yet again.
Was(Not Was) thinks it might sound like this:
Hi dad, I'm calling you from jail
Hi dad, happy birthday, I'm in jail
Jail, jail, hi dad
All those years, I'm in jail now
I'm in jail, I like it here
It's nice, I like it
Hello dad, I'm in jail
Hello, hello dad, hi, I'm in jail
Say hi to mom, from jail
I'm in jail, I'm gonna stay here
I like it here
I like it, yeah, throw away the key
I'm in jail
Hello dad, I'm in jail
Jail, jail, jail, jail
What's the point in name-stealing, anyway? Is that dumber than dirt, or what? Gah, they're so stoopid.
I don't get it.
If they feel they are so right why do they post under somebody else's handle?
RIP - Then you won, he was the second biggest longshot to win in a hundred years or something (what the commentator said).
to have a grilled Xtian baby.
Now that is what I call a waste of a perfectly good dead xian baby. It would be much tastier boiled in my cauldron with some eye of newt and tounge of bat.
Patricia Neal.
Lordy.
She was sexy just talking.
That whiskey voice........
chris/tx ... What do I win on a $5 bet? $150?
you need to saute Xtian babies before throwing them on the coals. the skin is too tough, but plenty of fat makes for good grilling. yummy.
WHo were the top 3 long shots? I had my brother put money on the 3 horses with the worst odds.
Sweet.
The winner had 50 to 1 odds!!!!
Giacomo was a 50-1 shot, along with a few others.
I suggest you call you brother, RIL.
The drinks are on RIP!!! Go girl!
RIP - I think he was 50-1, so about $250. Note - I could be wrong, their may have been some bigger longshots, but think you would be good betting on the biggest three (that it would include this horse).
That whiskey voice........
She can barada my nikto anytime.
RIL - can I borrow 20 bucks?
Well, Res,
It sounds like you and me just won us some money.
I love having a race track with early morning betting just a mile or so away
Well, if it's gelting they want...
Eli
That would be "gelding," for further information on which I refer you to the Ernest Hemingway story (whose name escapes me) of the unfortunate who discovered his sex drive and badly misunderstood the concept, which ended the story whose title I can't remember, but whose conclusion has been, ever after, indelibly fixed in my mind.
Filed under: "The more things change in America...."
Gee, puppet's docweasel spew is so much more effective when posted under the names of regular commenters.
Wait.. no, it isn't.
If it were a really smart troll, it would post a delicious-sounding recipe that made us all blow ourselves up when we attempted to make it.
Like what happened to the guy in California when he attempted to recreate Crowley's homunculus.
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You did better. Paid 51-1.
Barkeep!
Champaign for everyone but the nameless ones.
She can barada my nikto anytime.
driftglass | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 6:44 pm | #
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Yup. That sums it up for me....
Damn! - $2 exacta paid $9800
Mrs. I a-J, the Beastmaster/poop comment was mine, referring to troll droppings. Bad epic fantasy film, poop joke? My inimitible style, I'm afraid.
Oh, and the imaginary "trend towards democracy"? Piffle. First, if wingnuts really mean "making Arabs like Israel," they should say so. Second, fun fun, but adducing Afghanistan in references to a change in "the Arab world" is pretty fucking funny, as it shows that these sudden experts on the Middle East are basically ignorant yahoos.
Finally, I guess wingnuts have learned from the WMD debacle not to ever try to credit Shrub with achievements which can ever actually be subjected to empirical tests either way. hence the attempt to fellate the master of the war with shoddy justifications by praising him with "a change that may never occur in my lifetime" and could anyway never be really traced to any single source, because this monolithic "Arab world" is a figment of the wingnut imagination anyway.
Oh, and note how this "democracy" shite has nothing the fuck whatsoever with making the United States fucking safer from terrorism. Ugh, wingnut fantasyland is an ugly and profoundly stupid place.
Res,
Well now that you are a woman of means, apropos of nothing, I have always thought "kept man" might be an interesting profession.
RIP - Just went and looked, five of the twenty horses in the field went off at 50-1 (the worst odds). Hopefully your brother included Giacomo.
Let's all head over RIP'S. Free drinks all around. (not)
If it were a really smart troll, it would post a delicious-sounding recipe that made us all blow ourselves up when we attempted to make it.
I prefer a lethal joke a la Monty Python:
Voice Over:
It was not long before the Army became interested in the military potential of the Killer Joke. Under top security, the joke was hurried to a meeting of Allied Commanders at the Ministry of War.
Cut to door at Ham House.
Soldier on guard comes to attention as dispatch rider
hurries in carrying armoured box.
Notice on door:
"Conference. No Admittance"
Dispatch rider rushes in.
A door opens for him and closes behind him.
We hear a mighty roar of laughter...
A series of doomphs as the commanders hit the floor or table.
You know, this happened to me about 2-3 years ago on the Kentucky Derby. I bet the longshot and won a pot. I think that horse was 70-1 or something. Of course, I know next to nothing about sports.
Hot Damn!
And whoever is stealing Thersites' name is insane because that man is inimitable (shit, is "inimitable" a word?) You get my drift.
Ugh, wingnut fantasyland is an ugly and profoundly stupid place.
Stupid, ugly and nobody likes it?
Well now that you are a woman of means, apropos of nothing, I have always thought "kept man" might be an interesting profession.
"Are you her fancy man? Do you service her?"
Atlantic City, IIRC...
I prefer my Xtian babies prosciutto-wrapped and goat-cheese-stuffed with olive-oil sauteed shrimp.
Zere vere drei peanuts, valking down der strasse. And vun vas assaulted... peanut.
Eli,
Well,
I just parlayed that whimsical $20 bet into enough to go to Eschacon.
I'm feeling really good right now.
Dinner has arrived.
Night all.
Well happy to know that namestealers are afoot, was just about to announce that the Derby was just about to start only to find that it has already finished.
Oh and now it would appear that ESPN's
pre-recorded coverage is suffering from technical difficulties.
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Well now that you are a woman of means, apropos of nothing, I have always thought "kept man" might be an interesting profession.
drift ...
Did you see "Sweet Bird of Youth," with Geraldine Page and the aforementioned (mmmm) Paul Newman? He was a kept man. Can you offer similiar attributes and skills? (We already know you like to eat.) Because if so, I may just consider ...
pie - You really should read the article. I just finished it - it's very good.
Thanks for the link, pseudonymous in n.c.
Aw shucks, drifty, I think that's two in two days.
You do know I don't make enough money to keep you in the style to which you're accustomed, right?
My brother put the money on Giacomo "because he's Italian!" Yay!
Screw you, George Steinbrenner!
Tena, I will. Getting asparagus ready for the grill.
Screw you, George Steinbrenner!
I'm feelin' pretty sorry for Joe Torre and the Yankees right about now...
Good thing for them Mussina pitched a gem today.
RIL - inimitable (shit, is "inimitable" a word?)
Yeah, it's a great word; one of my favorites.
incog
don't forget to roast them
such a pleasing aroma!
pie - Your meal sounds wonderful. Enjoy!
Res,
I've always fancied (or fancy=manned) myself more of a Joe Gillis in "Sunset Boulevard" kinda service professional.
Some small abilities as a writer, but much more comfortable in a vicuna coat lighting your cigarettes...and so forth.
Can you offer similiar attributes and skills? (We already know you like to eat.) Because if so, I may just consider ...
Don't know about drift, but I can cook. And bake.
And can peaches....
Okay, guys:
Greta Garbo.
Your thoughts.
diane,
congrats to you and to res. whoohoo!
2nd largest upset in Derby history.
off to grille. later to all (except to Fake Thersites, who puts the Haggerty nut in wingnuttia)
Screw you, George Steinbrenner!
I'm feelin' pretty sorry for Joe Torre and the Yankees right about now...
Yeah, well that doesn't preclude thinking that George Steinbrenner is an asswipe. As previously mentioned, I know next to nothing about sports, but even I know that you can't buy a great team.
Greta Garbo.
The Grand Hotel
*I vant to be alone.*
RIL - Oh, and I meant to say, too, that it's a perfect word for Thersites. You called it just right.
Oh, and the imaginary "trend towards democracy"?
Actually, I thought it was more of your sardonic humor.
Did I give you too much credit? Or not enough?
I've always fancied (or fancy=manned) myself more of a Joe Gillis in "Sunset Boulevard" kinda service professional.
Hey drift....
He wound up face down in the pool. Newman survived Geraldine Page. But hey ... whatever way you want to work it, sweetheart.
Garbo's okay. But give me Rita Hayworth, Carole Lombard, Ingrid Bergman, Rita Hayworth, Sophia Loren, Kate Hepburn, Lauren Bacall, Ginger Rogers, Marilyn Monroe, or Rita Hayworth any day...
but even I know that you can't buy a great team.
Um, he bought one for a while.
Greta Garbo,
Never got the attraction. Theoretically beautiful, but never lit me up.
Does Tom Friedman during all his earnest chin-stroking about the problem of terrorism and Arab culture pause to consider that this might be related somehow? Saudi imams get young men inspired to blow themselves up in the middle of Iraqi crowds, but we sure don't hear too many reports of young Saudi men risking death to stand between Muslim villagers in Darfur and the janjaweed.
What about Nick Kristof, who has access to the same maps of Africa that the rest of us do? Does he wonder that the largest Arab country, directly north of Sudan with a large army and an air force hundreds of planes strong, has never made a move toward establishing, say, a no-fly zone over any part of Darfur? Demanded UN sanctions against Sudan, or imposed any of its own? To be honest, I doubt the idea has even crossed his mind.
But give me Rita Hayworth, Carole Lombard, Ingrid Bergman, Rita Hayworth, Sophia Loren, Kate Hepburn, Lauren Bacall, Ginger Rogers, Marilyn Monroe, or Rita Hayworth any day...
Ingy! Love of my life. I also love Donna Reed.
As previously mentioned, I know next to nothing about sports, but even I know that you can't buy a great team.
He kinda forgot how to use money to build a great team. Instead of using it to bring in mercs year after year, use it to retain your homegrown talent, which the smaller-market teams are unable to do.
But if you *must* bring in high-priced players from elsewhere, *please* try to stick to ones who are well under 30, mmmkay?
He wound up face down in the pool.
Don't we all
He wound up face down in the pool.
Don't we all
I'd rather end up face down in Rita Hayworth...
I've always fancied (or fancy=manned) myself more of a Joe Gillis in "Sunset Boulevard" kinda service professional.
Some small abilities as a writer, but much more comfortable in a vicuna coat lighting your cigarettes...and so forth.
driftglass | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 6:57 pm | #
So, uh, do you resemble William Holden, driftglass?
Wow,
they just showed the race. Giacamo made up so much room during the finishing stretch, that I only picked him up during the last few yards.
Wow!
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But if you *must* bring in high-priced players from elsewhere, *please* try to stick to ones who are well under 30, mmmkay?
Eli
Right, Eli, and also who are not certifiably nuts.
Gary Sheffield...sheesh, what a whack job.
Mmm, grilled asparagus.
It's burrito night here. Burritos, sangria, relaxing on the deck in the almost-warm-enough-for-shorts weather, and tomorrow, a baseball game.
I love my city.
Hecate, taragon chicken? SO HUNGRY NOW.
A.
RIL - Oh, and I meant to say, too, that it's a perfect word for Thersites. You called it just right.
Tena ... Weirdness. Thersites referred to himself as "inimitible" (at 6:47) before I referred to him as "inimitible" (at 6:4
, but I swear I hadn't read his post.
Coincidence or conspiracy? Only the Tri-Lateral Commission knows for sure.
Garbo's okay. But give me Rita Hayworth, Carole Lombard, Ingrid Bergman, Rita Hayworth, Sophia Loren, Kate Hepburn, Lauren Bacall, Ginger Rogers, Marilyn Monroe, or Rita Hayworth any day...
Eli | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 7:00 pm | #
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Bingo.
All those names could have had
me if they'd played their cards
right.
Garbo?
Attractive, but I don't get
the cult thing.
But give me Rita Hayworth, Carole Lombard, Ingrid Bergman, Rita Hayworth, Sophia Loren, Kate Hepburn, Lauren Bacall, Ginger Rogers, Marilyn Monroe, or Rita Hayworth any day..
Now that is just a damn cruel tactic. We'll have no trolls for a while though. They are busy blowing up their lifesize dolls.
The link worked, as of a minute ago. The average American will read that article and see jibberish.
I understood it, but if we're to communicate with Merkins, we need to write it plainly and with definitions that people who watch TV and never read books can understand.
So, uh, do you resemble William Holden, driftglass?
In the dark, absolutely
From LGF, we see what Charles Johnson is fostering there. Make no mistake, the 'lizards' dream of the day they start revenging themselves on the 'leftists' and LLLs that have ruined life for them:
52 Shiplord Kirel 5/7/2005 02:00PM PDT
If there is a nuclear holocaust, the left-appeaser lobby and its media-driven sub-culture will be entirely and directly culpable for it.
If nuclear missiles start falling on the United States, the survivors should see to it that every left-conformist, moonbat, media quisling, and peace hypocrite is seized, given an ad hoc trial to determine affiliation, and hanged from the nearest lamppost.
I am serious. Lefty lurkers should know that they pursue their neo-60s revolutionary fantasies at the peril of their lives.
Thank God for the Ninth Circuit, which has, in its infinite wisdom, given us the freedom to speak so candidly of those whose righteous destiny lies at the end of a rope.
Eli - When Rita Hayworth turns around from her mirror in Gilda it's one of the most amazing things ever put on film. She was the definition of radiant. She was something.
If we're doing lovely ladies, do not forget Ms. Rosalind Russell.
The hats alone say "sex."
A.
Right, Eli, and also who are not certifiably nuts.
Gary Sheffield...sheesh, what a whack job.
Actually one of their *better* signings, although I was really hoping it would fall through and "force" them to sign Vlad.
Did I give you too much credit? Or not enough?
I would prefer a dorect grant to credit, thank you much.
Eli - When Rita Hayworth turns around from her mirror in Gilda it's one of the most amazing things ever put on film. She was the definition of radiant. She was something.
Rita Hayworth in Gilda. Jesus.
The difference between "Yum!" and "Oh... my... God."
I'd rather end up face down in Rita Hayworth...
Eli-LOL!
Anybody able to raise google?
Or news.google.com?
In the dark, absolutely
driftglass | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 7:07 pm | #
Hoochie-mama!
Coincidence or conspiracy? Only the Tri-Lateral Commission knows for sure.
Ahhh. "Past-posting"...since were doing the movies, horse racing and clever trifecta today.
Anybody able to raise google?
Or news.google.com?
Nope.
In the dark, absolutely
driftglass | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 7:07 pm | #
Hoochie-mama!
abyssgazer ... Back off, wench. He's spoken for.
The difference between "Yum!" and "Oh... my... God."
Very well put, Eli.
Can't ping 'em.
Can't pung 'em, for that matter.
I'd rather end up face down in Rita Hayworth...
Damned necrophiliacs....
Must be the week-end crew.
Anybody able to raise google?
No, and I buried and watered three whole laptops trying. Plenty of sun, Miracle-gro... nothin'.
DEAN'S DEBACLE
Democratic National Committee (DNC) fund raising under the chairmanship of Howard Dean shows a disappointing $16.7 million raised in the first quarter of 2005, compared with $34 million reported by the Republicans.
That tends to confirm dire predictions by old-line Democratic fund-raisers of a fall-off in money if Dean became chairman. He had promised to bring in heavy individual contributions, as he did in his 2004 campaign for president. But the DNC in the first quarter received only $13 million from individuals, compared to $31 million for the Republican National Committee (RNC).
Oy.
"Miss Hayworth glows."
Ahhh. "Past-posting"...since were doing the movies, horse racing and clever trifecta today.
Sorry, meant to add "and Paul Newman" to that list.
Thanks, GWPDA. Now I'll just be patient.
Now I keep hearing this radio blooper...
Something along the lines of:
"Be sure to catch Rita- yeah?! Rita Hayworth, whose salami will take your breath away."
"Hey! That's Salome, you jerk!"
wingnuts will soon try to legislate against pesky little things like Gallileo's observations.+++
The hearings in Topeka, scheduled to last several days, are focusing on two proposals. The first recommends that students continue to be taught the theory of evolution because it is key to understanding biology. The other proposes that Kansas alter the definition of science, not limiting it to theories based on natural explanations.
Hey Eli, is this yours?
"No matter how you slice it, I think what you are doing is crummy. I don't mean to sound stale but you should try to do more with your time besides loafing off at your computer".
Mighty punny stuff.
Greta Garbo.
Your thoughts.
steve simels
Didn't she invent a new sort of torpedo or something (don't go there, Eli)?
As far as old-timey hotness, give me Katherine Hepburn, Alexis Smith, Judy Holliday, Barbara Stanwyck, and early Bette Davis. Seriously. I've never subscribed to the Playboy ideal, but give me a gal with something different (big nose, whatever) and I'm doomed.
Modern day - Emma Thompson, Geena Davis.
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Congratulations RIL.
"Miss Hayworth glows."
IIRC, she was in fact pregnant when Gilda was filmed.
Google is out but Gmail works fine
If we're doing lovely ladies, do not forget Ms. Rosalind Russell.
For me, the gold standard for vintage movie babe has always been Lana Turner in "the Postman Always Rings Twice".
>i>The difference between "Yum!" and "Oh... my... God."
In the spirit of films of the era, shouldn't you have said, "The difference between 'Yum' and 'Yum-yum.'" (Barbara Stanwyck in "Ball of Fire.")
abyssgazer ... Back off, wench. He's spoken for.
Res Ipsa Loquitor | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 7:11 pm | #
Perhaps we could work out a time share arrangement...
Not me, Central, but thanks for thinkin' of me...
Hey, the real, Adam West "Batman" is on in reruns on my local Channel 23.
God bless UHF and all that sail on her!
Back in a little while
Point taken, Res, but Rita cannot be encompassed by mere yums.
New thread.
Hey, the real, Adam West "Batman" is on in reruns on my local Channel 23.
I love when he makes his guest appearances as the mayor on Family Guy.
Didn't she invent a new sort of torpedo or something (don't go there, Eli)?
I vaguely remember something about Hedy Lamarr (that's not Hedley) making some contribution to the war effort.
But the DNC in the first quarter received only $13 million from individuals, compared to $31 million for the Republican National Committee (RNC).
So what, twat.
Keep banging the war drum, little man.
Gary Sheffield...sheesh, what a whack job.
Diane
I was at a Diamondbacks game when they announced that the Dodgers had traded for him. Being a lifelong fan, my immediate reaction was to launch a fine misty spray of Budweiser over the couple in front of me.
After my embarrased apology, the guy responded, "Hey, I know exactly what you mean, I'm a Dodgers fan, too."
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I think I may have been the last one to "raise google" left there for a weather site to see what all the rumbling in the distance was about.
Went back and "www.google.com not found".
She is back in all her glory BTW.
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target=new>A Nazi Pope in Hell
Way way up thread I told you all to bet a long shot even though Bandini was my sentimental favorite. Knew he would lose because he wasn't biting anyone or anything or acting up prior to race. No energy. Just glad Zito, Pletcher & Lukas all lost. Can't stand any of them. They are like Bolton with subordinates.
I just root against Zito and Lukas because I'm sick of hearing about them as these Ultimate Wizardly Geniuses every fucking year at Triple Crown time.
I vaguely remember something about Hedy Lamarr (that's not Hedley) making some contribution to the war effort.
abyssgazer
You are absolutely correct, and I was way off. Hedy Lamarr is credited with inventing a guidance system for torpedoes. She was amazingly beautiful, but IMHO couldn't act a lick. Big hotness props for having mega-smarts, though.
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Oh well......
Going to mom's for mothers day,
Have fun!!!
Oh, and that Michael Moore is a fat fat fatty.
Prodigiously so.
Carpbasman
Yeah, but Michael can lose weight.
Whereas, the wingnuts will be stupid forever.
Do we really want this woman to get the nomination in '08? A criminal investigation involving Hillary Clinzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Yada yada yada.
Clinton haters are SO lame...and SO moronic!
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