I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
frist
Ah, Barbara Bush. Nixon's favorite "hater."
I really am going now. Later!
third?
ahhh, the son she never had
wow! um, not that i'm too thrilled that clinton's running with the bushes, but... wow. i think it will be awfully hard for the repubs to go after hillary with all this happening.
not that it will matter; george will get us into a war with iran and north korea and they'll declare martial law, and we'll all be conscripted to go fight. 
What goes around, comes around.
Wait till Babs calls Hillary, "Daughter," and gets a haymaker in return.
pretty funny, though, since everyone said it was jeb that was favored over shrub. i guess it's true; even clinton is better than W, i guess.
but how the hell is barbara calling clinton "son"? that's pretty phenomenal. and the question that is on everyone's minds: will freeper heads explode now, and if not, how are they going to digest this turn of events?
the today show actually ran this clip and ol babs waasn't smiling when she recited the joke. it must be a dateline segment, there was a whole todo about how chummy they are.
it must be driving chimpy nuts that he has to reach out to clinton and in particular of areas of humanitarian concern -- which only goes to further establish clinton's reputation and his eventual appt as sec general of the u.n.
I'm hoping this works out to be the third act of a shakespearean tragedy.
I doubt freeper heads are going to explode, but Georgie's might. Calling Clinton "Son" has got to be rather infuriating.
N.B. I'm going to the Santa Fe/Taos area for several days later this month, as a reward for being a good family member and visiting elderly relatives in Oklahoma (this includes keeping my lip zipped about the aforementioned Gee Dubya). I have some ideas of what I'd like to do when I'm up there (such as visit the Georgia O'Keeffe museum) but if anyone has any suggestions of interesting, offbeat things to see or do up there, I'd love to hear it.
Let's see, Lewinsky was born in 1973, so was in her mid 20s when things heated up with Clinton. Jenna and not-Jenna were born in 1981, so is approaching her mid 20s. Boy, her going down on Clinton would really pop the cork of the freepers!
fuck the oatmeal lady, is she still at large after threatening the democratic presidential candidates
Fluffy,
The first thing I would do if given that opportunity is arrange a lunch date with WoodyGuthriesGuitar.
Worth remembering that Clinton's younger than Chimpy by a month. As for his friendship with Daddy Bush: well, he's on record as saying when you're an ex-Prez, there's a limited number of people you can talk to with similar experience.
Somehow I don't think Chimpy will be devoting his sixties to humanitarian causes: like his daddy, he'll be signed up by the Carlyle Group, though in a very hands-off capacity.
Let's see, Lewinsky was born in 1973, so was in her mid 20s when things heated up with Clinton. Jenna and not-Jenna were born in 1981, so is approaching her mid 20s. Boy, her going down on Clinton would really pop the cork of the freepers!
Hmm, maybe that was the whole point of the "son" thing - now he can't make a move on Jenna or Not-Jenna 'cuz it'd be incest...
Barbara is a fucking Bitch -- much more like W than HW. Just ask Franken.
Although after the last four years, anyone with half a brain would be ashamed of a womb that bore that creatin, W.
I think Clinton is probably as dismayed by the bitterness and partisanship that are rending our government as the rest of us are, and has been trying to do his bit to bridge the gulf. Admirable, but the fault lies entirely on the other side.
PS -- Clinton's apologia (see, for example, the opening of Clinton's library) for W makes me gag. Clinton is also a spoiled bitch more interested in being liked than helping the county.
Did anyone see the interview of clinton and poppy together?
They showed footage of clinton, poppy and chimpy together.
They asked clinton what was going on in the footage.
He said that chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
What a thing to brag about. He is such a fucking asshole.
ummm... haloscan's clocks are screwed up. i know it's eastern time, but it shouldn't be eastern time + 15 minutes...
I hane to go with bkny on this one.
Of coure, if anyone could turn the other cheek and make a friend of an otherwise enemy, it would be Clinton.
I assume that Bush is Felix and Clinton is Oscar.
He said that chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
has disdain for intellectual pursuits ever been so prevalent in our country? seriously. who else bragged about not being the brightest bulb in the room? I guess there was reagan, but who else?
He said that chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
What a thing to brag about. He is such a fucking asshole.
I loved that one pic of him trying to beat Clinton through the door.
Is there anyone more devoid of grace than Bush? And I don't mean the physical kind.
I'm hoping this works out to be the third act of a shakespearean tragedy.
underwhelm
Mmm.. Rove as Hamlet, Rice as Ophelia, Poppy as Polonius, Mehlman and Bartlett as Guildenstern and Rosencrantz, DeLay as Laertes, with a final appearance by Dean as Fortinbras.
Yeah, I could get behind that.
Of course, in my version Fortinbras whips it out and pees on Hamlet's head while laughing hysterically.
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Godammit, Bill is a smart sonofabitch.
eli -- that photo is one of the funniest and truest displays of bush's assholery ever. i'm laughing just thinking about it..
I loved that one pic of him trying to beat Clinton through the door.
...at the christening of Clinton's own library.
Apparently, one must be 35 years old to run for President of the United States.
But they don't specify mental age.
Of coure, if anyone could turn the other cheek and make a friend of an otherwise enemy, it would be Clinton.
Oh yeah, isn't that the truth. it boggles the mind what the country would be like if he had managed to keep his zipper zipped. i mean, the nutzoids out there hated him regardless of his foibles, and it's true that blowjobs are really and truly irrelevant to his job as president, and it was a witch hunt, but can you imagine his legacy if the wingnuts out there couldn't even say "blowjob!"? what could they possibly complain about? (i suppose they would still have blamed him for 9/11, but that really hasn't stuck for most people)
...at the christening of Clinton's own library.
Yeah, I thought it was something like that; talk about icing on the cake. Wasn't that also where he made the "submarine" crack? Absolutely no class at all...
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
Somehow, that does not surprise me.
and i'm talking only about wingnuts. i, for example, am not thrilled with Don't Ask Don't Tell, nor the Defense of Marriage Act, nor the Religious Freedom Act (i think that's what it's called). But on the whole, those are things the nutzoids like, so what could they complain about? COBRA?
Laura'comedy act? What's that?
Now showing to sold out performances, Bab's Bush... queen of the skewer.
Yeah, I thought it was something like that; talk about icing on the cake. Wasn't that also where he made the "submarine" crack? Absolutely no class at all...
And he goofed and made faces at the cameras during one of the speeches.
Doooo-fus.
Somehow I don't think Chimpy will be devoting his sixties to humanitarian causes: like his daddy, he'll be signed up by the Carlyle Group, though in a very hands-off capacity.
pseudonymous in nc
Oh, I dunno. I think maybe DynCorp might have something he could do.
Maybe CACI would be more to his tastes, though.
Anything using wires and wet tarps.
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
Somehow, that does not surprise me.
How many pages in My Pet Goat and The Very Hungry Caterpillar?
If Babs commented on it in public, it's likely she was trying to embarass Poppy and clue in Junior.
I doubt even Bubba could charm that ancient evil.
That's why they call him Slick Willie. And he is one slick sonuvabitch if he can charm that icy witch.
He said that chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
'The Pet Goat', on the other hand...
has disdain for intellectual pursuits ever been so prevalent in our country?
In politics? More prevalent than you think. James Bryce noted a century ago that the intellect of the first presidents was the exception, rather than the rule, and perhaps deliberately so.
PP - haloscan does that sometimes... I've decided to base my Powerball picks on the time differential plus the various different numbers Haloscan claims are the posts to a thread.
Can't be worse than any other system....
And he goofed and made faces at the cameras during one of the speeches.
Doooo-fus.
Sure is great having a preznit who acts like a petulant four-year-old.
USA! USA! USA!
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
"Are there pictures?"
Hey, reading's hard.
So's milking stallions. Why do s'poze he's skeered of horses?
BTW, I had a namestealer 2 threads back...I left after the marinade recipe.
I think it's time for us to ghost Bush's memoirs in advance. Back of an envelope job.
That's why they call him Slick Willie. And he is one slick sonuvabitch if he can charm that icy witch.
Oh God, please let that be *all* he did.
I need to scrub my brain now...
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
Odd, that, since Pickles always likes to go on about how her favorite book is Brothers Karamazov which, depending on your translation and edition hovers right around 800 odd pages. Perhaps that's short enough. Or perhaps, having married into the family, she doesn't count.
He's going to retire to the ranch and clear brush. It's hard work.
Eli:
ummm... UN blog. there is one, sponsored by the UN foundation, though apparently not necessarily representing the UN. (Its blog roll lists Eschaton!) it is www.undispatch.com.
however, i think there is one at the UN. i will do more research...gimme a few.
Oh, I dunno. I think maybe DynCorp might have something he could do.
Maybe CACI would be more to his tastes, though.
Anything using wires and wet tarps.
I'm hoping for a freak electrical storm while he's clearing brush.
ick. undispatch also blogrolls instapundit and powerline. *gack*
huh. just noticed that the story is from the "Chronic." (were that it were so!) i'm surprised that atrios found my hometown newspaper. though one of its staff writers' columnn got very favorable reviews on the official UN blog; something about debt forgiveness being good. (and right about now, I'm sure our country would like a little debt forgiveness, eh?)
AAAARRRRRRRRRGH!
Speaking of petulant 4 year-olds...
AAAARRRRRGGH!
speaking of petulant 4 year-olds...
Rorschach--you mean those slugs I've been salting on my walkway were once Republicans? You just made my day!
Barbara,
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all. You totally fucked up the most important job any human ever gets -- raising children. I mean, you completely screwed it up and failed. And now all of us are paying the price. This is why NO ONE should have children that they aren't both ready for and prepared to raise correctly. You are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again. You clearly need some time. Bitch.
(there's a UN blog?)
fuck you haloscan...
this is just a test.
Pickles always likes to go on about how her favorite book is Brothers Karamazov
she must have hollowed it out and hid herstash in there, cuz i know they never translated Dostoyevsky into dip-shitish
watertiger, the heat alone should knock him off - any damn fool who goes out in the the midday Texas sun to 'clear brush' is just askng for heat stroke.
If Babs comes back as a slug, Liddy Dole will come back as a dung beetle.
Rorschach--you're telling me that all those slugs I've been salting on my walkway were once Republicans? You just made my day!
rorschach,
I'll salt that motherfucker, first chance I get. He'll crawl into my saucer of beer and then......
NOT SUPRISED THAT TRAILOR TRASH BILL WANTS TO SUCK UP TO HIS BETTORS PLUS HE PROBLY THINKS IF HE BROWNOSES ENUOGH THEYLL GO EASY ON LADY MACBILL WHEN HE RUNS FOR FIRST HUSBAND IN 08 HA HA HA LIKE THATS REALY GOING TO HAPPEN GET A CLUE BILL YOUVE ALREDY EMBARASSED YOURSELF ENUOGH DONT YOU THINK?
Clinton's got to be a better son than Georgie ever was.
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all. You totally fucked up the most important job any human ever gets -- raising children. I mean, you completely screwed it up and failed. And now all of us are paying the price. This is why NO ONE should have children that they aren't both ready for and prepared to raise correctly. You are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again. You clearly need some time. Bitch.
As my friends and I like to say: ARCHIVED!
If Babs commented on it in public, I doubt even Bubba charmed her.
More likely she was trying to embarass Poppy and clue in Junior.
There is no way even Bill Clinton could charm that ancient evil.
Note: I did not say witch or imply any relation, Hecate!
Actually, a Lovecraftian Old One fits her much better.
Also forgive possible duplicate posts- HaloScan is glitchy tonight.
haloscan is completely wigging out. i just posted and it appears way the fuck upthread.
what the hell? where'd my posts go?
Oh God, please let that be *all* he did.
I need to scrub my brain now...
*gack*
ouch, that imagery hurts. oh man. agggggggghhhhhhhhhhh! the more i try to stop thinking about that, the worse it gets! ggggggggaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!
it did it again! fuck you haloscan!!!
oh haloscan, thou art an ass.
I think that the coronary surgery loosened up some old chunks of McRib, sent the pieces banging into the Big Dog's brain and has fucked up some of Clinton's higher functions. Satan's family does not serve pie ala mode to the enemy for free.
haloscan is completely wigging out. i just posted and it appears way the fuck upthread.
Haloscan appears to be trying to fix the timestamp in their usual inimitably graceful fashion...
In politics? More prevalent than you think. James Bryce noted a century ago that the intellect of the first presidents was the exception, rather than the rule, and perhaps deliberately so.
huh. i kinda thought that might be the case, but i didn't know that someone had already looked at it. I'll have to look at this Bryce fellow.
right. so my post replying to eli's question about a UN blog appears before he asks it. time travel rawks!
And he is one slick sonuvabitch if he can charm that icy witch.
SJS,
You have earned today's Hecate rant. Please do not use my religion as a slur; I don't appreciate it. And do not be surprised if you bite into something unpleasant tomorrow. Just sayin'
ou are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again.
Reminds me of a short story I wrote once, about reincarnation...
The last paragraph springs to mind:
"The next time he came back, as a slug, he didn't last so long. He forgot about the salt thing."
Okay, Haloscan should be just about caught up with itself now, I think...
Huzzah!
Reality factor of 1 to 1. We have normality.
Well, as near as it gets, anyway...
scan o' hell.
anyway, as I was saying...
i'm wondering with chimpy apologizing for fdr's yalta agreement, will he be making an apology on behalf of his grandpappy for bankrolling hitler?
what are the chances it will come up on tomorrow's a.m. chatfest.
I'm sure that Dubya likes to imagine that Poppy isn't his real daddy. And Poppy probably likes to imagine it too.
Tocqueville, despite those things he admired about America, also talked about how Democracy would inexorably and inevitably give rise to mediocrities.
anyway, as I was saying...
Something about being all petulant and pouty, I think. And tight clothing.
sorry, but it's obligatory...
*pukes yarn*
I'm sure that Dubya likes to imagine that Poppy isn't his real daddy. And Poppy probably likes to imagine it too.
Probably not nearly as much as he likes to imagine that Bar isn't his real wife...
nice try, Eli.
can we say "Doooooo-fus", boys and girls?
I knew you could.
sorry, but it's obligatory...
*pukes yarn*
I think thread would be more apropos here, however...
let's see. there's that www.undispatch.com site, there's the UN news center: http://www.un.org/News/, and i'm still looking. i swear to god i found one.
89th?
Just finished dinner.
can we say "Doooooo-fus", boys and girls?
"I drew it all by myself!"
Fluffy - get WGG to take you to Blakes Lota-Burger and eat a Lota-Burger with green chile. Make this the last thing you do before getting on the plane.
Now. Just before you go to Blake's, stop at the local stop and rob and buy a box of heavy duty ziploc bags. Pull out several and put them in your handbag. When you get to Blake's, you will be ordering an additional FIVE Lota-Burgers with green chile. Each one you will put into a ziploc bag, and then into your suitcase. When you arrive at Sky Harbor, I can then meet you at the south curb (look for the big yellow Cherokee) and get the takeout order (recompensing you of course) and then either drive you home, or whatever you like.
Oh, and you should also make sure to eat at the Pink Adobe (shrimp remoulade is awfully good) in Santa Fe. For fun, take a quick A-bomb tour - the bridge where secrets were sold, and the store front where Los Alamos mail actually went, that kind of thing....
Okay?
hahahaha...now dance my monkeys
and for those who got all confoosed by haloscan's poor sense of timing, I give you the petulant 4 year-old...
thankfully, not in 3-D.
GWPDA's serious 'bout those Lota-Burgers...
And do not be surprised if you bite into something unpleasant tomorrow. Just sayin'
Hecate
I bring this up in completely fanboy mode:
Woo hoo witchy woman she got
The moon in her eye
*sigh*
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Poppy's thinking:
"Gee, I wish MY son was more like you."
Smart, hardworking, sober.....
Poppy's thinking:
Smart, hardworking, sober.....
...won't be known as the President who yanked a horse's crank.."
Clinton is also a spoiled bitch more interested in being liked than helping the county.
Al Gore Invented the Internet!
Oh, get off Bill's back!
I think thread would be more apropos here, however...
hahahahahahaha! excellent!
Pickles always likes to go on about how her favorite book is Brothers Karamazov
she must have hollowed it out and hid herstash in there, cuz i know they never translated Dostoyevsky into dip-shitish
My take has always been that she must read it as a simple Christian Conservative narrative (and Dostoyevsky was, of course, a Christian conservative -- just infinitely more complex and self-doubting than the ones we have today) and removed from it (that is utterly missed) any hint of the complexity which makes it one of the greatest novels ever written. She sees the basic Christian love = good, rationality = leads to no good part and misses the struggle and wanderings and questionings along the way.
I highly recommend to anyone here who hasn't seen it Tony Kushner's one act play riffing on her admiration for Brothers K in which Kushner makes her confront the ghosts of dead Iraqi children. Really fucking good, IMHO. Called Only We Who Guard the Mystery Shall Be Unhappy and still up at The Nation, where it was originally, I think, published.
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
Chimpy, on the other hand.....
GWPDA's serious 'bout those Lota-Burgers...
watertiger - Damn straight. Make that six? Pleeeeeeaaaaassssseeeee, please, please, please, I'll drive you out to Mesa, I promise, please........
Didn't Kitty Kelly say at the Nat'l Press Club that Barb didn't like W because of his obnoxious behavior?
Will always be grateful to Bill for turning me on to 3 authors who have given me many pleasant hours: David Baldacci, Richard North Patterson and John Lescroart.
...won't be known as the President who yanked a horse's crank.."
ooooooooooooooh! SNAP! 
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
I think he also did have some reverence for the office, and the concept of public service. Not saying he necessarily acted accordingly, but at least he didn't act like he just won a reality show or something.
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
He should have told "You don't speak for the rest of us!"
I've heard (and correct me if I am wrong) that is not the case with the rest of the family.
That's why Poppy likes Clinton. He can ask Bill if he's read any good books lately and Bill can honestly tell him that he has.
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
Poppy built a hugely successful Houston drilling company in the early sixties. Poppy has ten times the brains that junior will ever have.
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
Isn't it sad that i would take poppy over shrub any day? at least that guy knew to raise taxes. and to not invade baghdad.
GWPda,,
i planted tarragon for you today. Momma bunny and baby bunny observed me with interest, so we'll have to see if they leave any for you. I've been in socal twice in the last moon without once getting an inanout burger. And I want one, bad!
Poppy also resigned from the NRA, and never really warmed to the fundies. Plus Babs kept him straight on abortion.
"Maaaaaaaah!
Dad likes Bill and Jeb best!"
Of course, all these reasons that we list for Poppy being as bad as W. are precisely the reasons he didn't get re-elected...
poppy also correctly identified "voodoo economics"
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
Isn't it sad that i would take poppy over shrub any day? at least that guy knew to raise taxes. and to not invade baghdad.
PoppieProng
He told that asshole not to invade Iraq, but Chimpy wouldn't even listen to his own dad!
well, after half an hour of searching, i have to admit defeat. i found a website many moons ago doing a search on the UN. i got a blog. maybe it was www.undispatch.com, which i guess is not official. but i don't remember it looking like that. i wish i could remember what it was that i was searching for. hmmm.
oh well...
Hecate, sometimes we really have to work at making our dreams come true. Thus, Fluffy, I point out that the closest Blake's to the Abq Airport is found at 6301 GIBSON SE
ALBUQUERQUE NM 87108
262-2438
and just a straight Lota-Burger is fine, double meat is excessive.
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeeeeee, oh please, please, please, please. please.........
Barbara,
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all. You totally fucked up the most important job any human ever gets -- raising children. I mean, you completely screwed it up and failed. And now all of us are paying the price. This is why NO ONE should have children that they aren't both ready for and prepared to raise correctly. You are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again. You clearly need some time. Bitch.
Hecate
Fucking awesome.
Don't forget Souter, think where we would be today without Souter on the SC.
He told that asshole not to invade Iraq, but Chimpy wouldn't even listen to his own dad!
yeah, because he has a bigger, cloudier "father" who talks to him in his head.
at least that guy knew to raise taxes. and to not invade baghdad.
PoppieProng
Bush I: "We must defeat Saddam!"
Powell: "Going into Baghdad would involve us in a mess that our Armed Forces can't handle."
Bush I: "Well, OK, then. Crap!"
Powell: "Thank you, Sir. You won't regret it."
[years pass]
Bush II: "We must defeat Saddam!"
Powell: "Going into Baghdad would involve us in a mess that our Armed Forces can't handle."
Bush I: "Man, I sure hate not bein' able to get them last few tater chips out o' the bag! Heh, ain't Condi lookin' sweet? I'm puttin' her in charge!"
Powell: "Ummm, whatever Sir. Man, do I regret this."
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With all this talk of Poppy and Dubya I am reminded of that classic SNL skit with Dana Carvey where Sr. and Jr. were on the hunting trip and Sr. was contemplating shooting Jr. but stopped at the last minute. I wonder just how close to truth that skit rang?
Souter. Excellent.
Hi again everyone. What did I miss?
Hecate - you inspired me. I replanted my container garden today and added tarragon to the herb bed. Mmmmm...now I need tarragon recipes.
GWPDA,
There was an inanout burger in San Diego and I was going to ask the nice lady driving the sedan to stop there, but they weren't open at ten o'clock in the am, which is when I was on the way to to airport. And I was in LA last week and was *this close* to renting a car, driving out towards Pasadena and buying one, but I went out with clients and ate sushi instead. But the next time I'm on the west coast, I'm getting an inandout burger if it's the last thing I do.
And thank you Hecate for the tarragon. Say, if the bunnies get it all, then your next step may involve a nice lapin en sauce estragon moutard. Peut etre?
With all this talk of Poppy and Dubya I am reminded of that classic SNL skit with Dana Carvey where Sr. and Jr. were on the hunting trip and Sr. was contemplating shooting Jr. but stopped at the last minute. I wonder just how close to truth that skit rang?
God, I loved that. I almost mentioned it myself...
Don't forget Souter, think where we would be today without Souter on the SC.
chris/tx |
so true, so true. you know, my parents liked poppy in 1980, when he was a moderate. they weren't thrilled with his pedigree or his role with the CIA, but they liked him better than reagan, and sadly carter wasn't cutting it for them as a president. but they blanched at him joining reagan and getting tainted by the uber-conservative factions of the republican party. now they wish they had him back, if not clinton. hell, poppy looks liberal compared to chimpy mcchump.
flory,
GWPDA has the best recipe for turkey tarragon salad ever. I've never grown it before, but I'm growing it for GWPDA as an experiment this year. Get GWPDA to give you her recipe; it's amazing.
GWPDA - You do know, of course, that Lota-Burger is owned by Pete Domenici?
Psyche! Geez, I'm evil..
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Powell: "Ummm, whatever Sir. Man, do I regret this."
i would add: "i'm so going to hell for this."
or at the very least: "did i do something in a previous life to deserve this?"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...5/7/142130/
7255
this is some great ammo, the dems better get a spine and use it.
The numbers below are for 2000-2004.
The Financial markets
S&P 500 -15%
NASDAQ -36%
Dow Jones -5.3%
Consumer income and expenses and Standard of Living
Price of a Gallon of Gas +46%
Real Value of the Minimum Wage -7%
Median Household Income -4%
Average cost of 4-year public college +24%
Poverty Rate +11%
Americans filing for Bankruptcy +33%
Annual Increase in Prescription Drug Prices (from 4.1% t0 6.8%) +68%
Number of Americans without Health insurance +18%
Federal Finances
Federal Debt +39%
Monthly Trade Deficit +75%
Annual Trade Deficit +53%
The dollar
Dollar versus Euro -30%
Dollar versus Yen -11%
Consumer Debt
Home Mortgage Borrowing +100%
Total Outstanding Consumer Debt +28%
Household Debt as a Percentage of Assets: 20%
Household Debt as a Percentage of GDP +21%
kick the friggin repugs out of office
I immediately emailed the news of Poppy and Clinton's new found friendship to all on my short list of die-hard Republican G. W. supporters who I know. What a great way to apply sandpaper. The internets are just great.
I'll have to look at this Bryce fellow.
Online: courtesy of the wingnuttish Liberty Fund, whose commitment to disseminating Hayek and other free-marketese is so great that it subsidises scholarly paperback editions of Adam Smith, David Hume et al. I appreciated the irony as a graduate student.
The relevant chapters are Why Great Men Are Not Chosen Presidents and Why the Best Men Do Not Go Into Politics.
Moose - not unless he's changed his name recently.
"The father-and-son team of Ronald C. Rule and Brian Rule is the new owner of the 75-restaurant Blake's Lotaburger chain based in Albuquerque.
Until 1999, Ronald Rule was the president, CEO and chairman of the board of United States Playing Card until he was ousted during a dispute between members of the board of directors."
Hi again everyone. What did I miss?
ummmm... some skanking on W, some reminiscing on poppy's relative virtues, some gross imagery of Clinton givin' it to the old battleaxe, and me failing to find a UN blog that I swear I saw at some point. oh, that and haloscan going all time crazy and messing up the order of the posts with me puking thread. 
GWPda,,
i planted tarragon for you today. Momma bunny and baby bunny observed me with interest, so we'll have to see if they leave any for you. I've been in socal twice in the last moon without once getting an inanout burger. And I want one, bad!
Hecate
Two things:
1. My late father always planted two gardens: one for us, one for the rabbits.
2. I had an InandOut for lunch (double-double)
hell, poppy looks liberal compared to chimpy mcchump.
All the republicans that started in politics before Reagan's presidency look better to me now. That asshole Reagan took the party so far to the right I don't even recognize it today compared to then.
PoppieProng - You in Houston also?
Aw, no, GWPDA, I can't eat them. First, they're way faster than I am and, second, they're my friends. You can't eat your friends. I had a nice chat with Momma today and told her she could eat all the hostas she wants if she leaves the tarragon and mint alone. She gave me one of "those" looks and took a bite of my parsley, but there's enough of that to share.
OT: dept of fuckin' [uncontrollable] negrahs
This is hilarious, from the "Soundbites" section of the FAIR extra newsletter (not the magazine):
"
Attributed to Kevin O'Brien, who ran 13 TV stations for the Meredith Corporation before being fired for blatant and persistant racism--
"We've got to quit hiring all these black people...You shouldn't hire old black guys. They don't listen, and they have attitudes and you can't control them."
"
pseudonymous in nc: hey that's great! thanks.
On behalf of Hecate, I've decided that I don't like Diane of Pasadena. Nothing personal, but there it is.
Diane,
I am so jealous. Whereabouts are you?
GWPDA:
Rumor has it you have a killer turkey tarragon salad recipe. I'll have tarragon in need of a reason for being soon......half of its your's if Hecate's bunnies get hers.
BushWorld doesn't do smart/dumb. BushWorld does winners/losers, rich/poor, etc.
I'm afraid our friend the Big Dog has been co-opted by the dark forces. Has he mentioned the war lately?
We're seriously fucked, folks. We've got nobody with any power on our side.
...Otherwise... I'm drinking vodka tonics, thinking of John Lennon and batting at the moon. Hope you're all well.
Peace.
Okay, I'm watching Mets-Brewers on my laptop, and one of the Brewers announcers just said that Pedro Martinez struck out the side on *8* pitches.
WTF???
PoppieProng - You in Houston also? i am indeed!
Hecate,
In Pasadena, about a mile from the InandOut on Foothill Blvd.
btw, Hecate, if you're still around: nice smackdown on the ol' Battleaxe.
Somehow I don't think Chimpy will be devoting his sixties to humanitarian causes: like his daddy, he'll be signed up by the Carlyle Group, though in a very hands-off capacity.
pseudonymous in nc
Carlyle group for Chimpy? I don't think so. This story was widely reported last year. From Salon:
In a column posted yesterday on Salon.com, Joe Conason writes: "Preferring to avoid public scrutiny for obvious reasons, executives at the Carlyle Group usually say nothing about their firm's connections with the Bush dynasty. But last April 23, Carlyle managing director David Rubenstein spoke quite frankly about the comfy sinecure he provided to George W. Bush more than a decade ago -- and how useless Bush turned out to be. Whether he knew it or not, Rubenstein's remarks to the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association were recorded."
Rubenstein said, "We put [Bush] on the board and [he] spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.
Rubenstein continued: "He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board. And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things."
All the republicans that started in politics before Reagan's presidency look better to me now. That asshole Reagan took the party so far to the right I don't even recognize it today compared to then.
PoppieProng - You in Houston also?
chris/tx
you ask any republican why they are republican and they will invariably reply, that I am for smaller government and less taxes. or that they don't trust the dems with money. bush and reagan have had the biggest budgets, biggest deficits, why does anyone believe them? any repug i talk to just spits out talking pints when asked a question, it is rather pathetic.
hecate, of course your around... what's wrong with me. that's why i shouldnt try to do this and work-work at the same time.
as for pedro martinez striking the side out with 8 pitches, it's his new pitch: the haloscan ball.
GWPDA,
In my defense, I have had a lotaburger in Albuquerque and they actually are a little better than the InandOut
hell, poppy looks liberal compared to chimpy mcchump.
PoppieProng
Please don't kill me, but back in the 80 primaries, I campaigned for Bush. As a moderate republican, I took the party line that Reagan was a dangerous, idiotic goofball. A line of thought going back to 68 (note to trolls: want to make your heads explode? Dig what Nixon had to say about Reagan back in the day).
Bush gets tapped as VP candidate, and all of a sudden he's making public appearances blubbering about how much he loves himself some capitalist Jesus. The Republican Party and I parted ways immediately, and I voted for Anderson.
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Aw, no, GWPDA, I can't eat them. First, they're way faster than I am and, second, they're my friends. You can't eat your friends.
Well, okay. If those are the rules. I live with Arthur and while I wouldn't eat him, sharing isn't always the way the household works.
flory, it's not actually my recipe, but that of a local seriously gourmet deli. It is just monstrously good - adjust the bleu cheese according to your own requirements -
Duck and Decanter Turkey Salad
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all. You totally fucked up the most important job any human ever gets -- raising children. I mean, you completely screwed it up and failed. And now all of us are paying the price. This is why NO ONE should have children that they aren't both From one mother to another, ready for and prepared to raise correctly. You are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again. You clearly need some time. Bitch.
Hecate
My daughter in Boston sent me such a great card that I cried.
Then my husband made me cry again when he told me what a great mother I am.
Barbara Bush, from one mother to another, you fucked up.
I'm better than you.
Although after the last four years, anyone with half a brain would be ashamed of a womb that bore that creati[o]n, W.
Why just blame the egg?
The sperm was just as loathsome, too. Probably more.
ecoast: ho. lee. shee. it. that's some impressive stuff. too bad none of these fuckers put country before party or money.
as for pedro martinez striking the side out with 8 pitches, it's his new pitch: the haloscan ball.
It's like a changeup, but instead of slowing down, it actually goes *backwards*.
And I just noticed - you use tarragon, instead of the thyme. Or in addition, whichever.
Diane,
You lucky duck; I love Pasadena. Love the Huntington, love the italian restaurant downtown that I can't think of the name of that makes the great meringue cookies, love all the craftsman bungalows, love old town, love the plaze of fountains, love that funky place that serves breakfast, love the mountains, love the race track, love the Ritz with its gardens of cactus and its pool, love the inandout burgers...
Moose Pudding: hell no, i don't hate you. i understand the appeal of a moderate republican. my folks are both from maine so they understand the tradition of a slightly left of center republican. they were just as stunned about bush I's transformation as you. they couldn't fathom it. that's why they voted for dukakis in '88.
Shit, this ain't surprising. Clinton's a politician's politician. I'm not a fan of most of his policies, which helped out no one but the status quo in the end, but the dude was personable as hell. I bet you a solid nickle if you made Limbaugh and Coulter room with Clinton for a weekend, they'd come out loving the dude (whether they admitted it or not is beside the question). He was like watching someone like Robbie Robertson play guitar: he's good, he knows he's good, he knows you know it, and that makes him even better.
Bush, on the other hand, comes off like a dick trying to be what Clinton is - that is, instantly beloved - but still comes off as a dick. Bush is Zaphod Beeblebrox. That irritating little shit in high school you let run around with you so you could fuck with him. Remember that guy? Well, he's running the free world now.
Oh, and the best burgers on the planet are at a little dive-y place called Kirk's in Palo Alto. Incredibly juicy, and you can get pineapple on 'em.
In my defense, I have had a lotaburger in Albuquerque and they actually are a little better than the InandOut
Well, there you are. The only thing that ever even came close was a Bob's Big Boy, served on a tin tray fixed to the driver's side window. And it didn't have any green chile.
It's like a changeup, but instead of slowing down, it actually goes *backwards*.
hahahahahahahahaha
george's doctor - You just described my friends that vote Republican. They talk about the party like it was around Nixon's time. It's like they are in a time warp and don't realize how much the party has left them over the last 25 years. I mentioned the erosion of church and state being pushed by Republicans to a group of them at a funeral recently, they looked at me like I was talking in tongues.
For tonight: NTodd's beef stroganoff and honey whole wheat casserole bread. Plenty for all who don't feel like cooking.
GWPDA, Irate Scholar
I'm planing to go out your way in July or Aguast and if I do I will get you a few. Do they freeze well?
I'll be driving.
Hecate,
Me too. I would add the Huntington Library and Gardens and the Norton Simon Museum to your list.
pie,
Your daughters are proof that you're a better mom than Barbara Bush.
My son is smart, kind, funny, and married to a wonderful kick=ass woman. They're coming over tomorrow to grill steaks for me. And, he turned me on to Atrios. How cool is that?
backslider, i think you nailed it. i would love to see what would happen if rush, hannity, coulter, et al actually met clinton. it would be like when people in cults get reprogrammed.
I have had a lotaburger in Albuquerque and they actually are a little better than the InandOut
Diane - 8:47 pm
a little better???
the green chile/cheese Blake's Lottaburger, wide and flat and a little mooshy, is nonpareil...
just sayin...
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Do they freeze well?
Oh they freeze admirably! Stick 'em in a cooler with a couple of those blue things, they'll be fine - but, but, remember, the Gallup Blake's Lota-Burger is only six hours from Phoenix, while the Deming Lota-Burger is only four....
I'm not a fan of most of his policies, which helped out no one but the status quo in the end
Well, can we get a second on that?
Won't be from me, darlin'.
kei & yuri,
I would be amazed if that cat had worked with enough older black gentlemen to even come close to being able to say that. Ah, me. Racism is extinct because we say it is, isn't that how it's supposed to work?
Oh, and the best burgers on the planet are at a little dive-y place called Kirk's in Palo Alto. Incredibly juicy, and you can get pineapple on 'em.
Indeed (though I've never done the Pineapple). Kirk's moved a couple years ago from the odd little building on California Ave. (which was recently knowcked down) to Town and Country Village; doesn't feel quite as dive-y. Still got great burgers though.
Woody, what's an ItsaBurger? How does it differ?
Eli:
And the Yankees are at the bottom of the AL East.
Go figure.
Barbara Bush, from one mother to another, you fucked up.
I'm better than you.
pie
I think Cinderella's stepmom ranks higher on the mothering scale.
GWPDA - muchas gracias. The recipe appears to call for thyme, not tarragon. Do you replace the thyme?
Clinton's got charisma, something they are incapable of because true charisma starts with a deep love of your fellow man.
I'm hoping this works out to be the third act of a shakespearean tragedy.
underwhelm
Pls. Don't give any column ideas to Modo, the Shakespearean scholar at the NYT.
Do you replace the thyme?
That's right. Perform a Haloscan on it.
I would be amazed if that cat had worked with enough older black gentlemen to even come close to being able to say that. Ah, me. Racism is extinct because we say it is, isn't that how it's supposed to work?
I wouldn't be surprised if he had negative experiences with a lot of black men, because he probably brought it out of them. "Boy, bring me a coffee!" (and probably much much worse) probably wore thin pretty quickly, I'm guessing.
"My son is smart, kind, funny, and married to a wonderful kick=ass woman. They're coming over tomorrow to grill steaks for me. And, he turned me on to Atrios. How cool is that?"
Hecate, we are so blessed. My daughter has been running around all day declaring, "Mommy, I love you, you're the best mom ever!"
And she cleaned bathrooms,did laundry and dragged in groceries to prove it.
"Oh, and the best burgers on the planet are at a little dive-y place called Kirk's in Palo Alto. Incredibly juicy, and you can get pineapple on 'em."
--Eli
Wrong. The best burgers in the whole wide world are found at Litton's off of Broadway in Knoxville, TN.
Grind their own meat.
Plus, the fries are out of this world.
I probably should say that despite my overall dislike of Clinton, I did think he did a decent job, for what it is, and I do think he genuinely gave a shit about people. The system, the very office, is so completely...not wrong, but still not quite right, I guess. You can only do so much, and the system seems to be gained to help some people more than some other group of people, even though that first group could stand to maybe wait a little longer than the second group.
But it's always been like that, and I don't know if there's much you can do about it beyond completely changing the system.
The single Lottabuger is 1/3 lb
the single Itsaburger is 1/4 lb...
otherwise indistinguishable...
i usually have the double meat/cheese/chile Itsa, cuz the bun's smaller but everything's similarly proportioned...except the chile, which is an add-on, and the same proportion no matter the size of the patty...
Thanks for the heads-up, sdf. Good to know if I ever get back for a visit.
Tigre: Pitching, pitching, and pitching. The hitting's down, but that might come around. The rotation was full of question marks, and pitching question marks tend to not resolve themselves in the Yankees' favor.
late to the party, let me just channel Muntz.
HA HA.
In other news...
David Brooks is a moron.
Over the past few weeks, the president has called their bluff. By embracing the progressive indexing of Social Security benefits, the president has asked us to make a shared sacrifice for the common good. He's asking middle- and upper-class folks to accept benefit cuts so there will be money for the people who are really facing poverty.
He has asked us to redistribute money down the income scale. Why should programs for children and families be strangled so Donald Trump can get bigger benefit checks?
"Me too. I would add the Huntington Library and Gardens and the Norton Simon Museum to your list."
Absolutely! We have a membership and go there at every opportunity. It's a magnificent place. And if you're going to be in the area, make advance rezes for the tearoom--it's really a wonderful lunch.
(and the bullpen sucks, too...)
But it's always been like that, and I don't know if there's much you can do about it beyond completely changing the system.
Backslider
Don'tcha know the Busheviks are trying to completely change the system.
David Brooks activates my temper. And it takes quite a lot to make my temper come to the surface.
And, he turned me on to Atrios. How cool is that?
Very cool.
Spread the word.
Coming right on the heels of Harry Reid's praising Poppy and dissing Dim Son (yeah, he "apologized" -- but the zing is what folks will remember), this is probably making The Insecure One excrete paving material.
By the way, this is my favorite part of the thread so far:
I'm hoping this works out to be the third act of a shakespearean tragedy.
underwhelm
Mmm.. Rove as Hamlet, Rice as Ophelia, Poppy as Polonius, Mehlman and Bartlett as Guildenstern and Rosencrantz, DeLay as Laertes, with a final appearance by Dean as Fortinbras.
Yeah, I could get behind that.
Of course, in my version Fortinbras whips it out and pees on Hamlet's head while laughing hysterically.
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Moose Pudding
YEAARRRRRRGHHHH!
Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of `mistaken identity'
Christina Lamb and Mohammad Shehzad Islamabad
THE capture of a supposed Al-Qaeda kingpin by Pakistani agents last week was hailed by President George W Bush as "a critical victory in the war on terror". According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists' third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as "among the flotsam and jetsam" of the organisation.
Eli:
and you can get pineapple on 'em.
But why would you want to?
David Brooks activates my temper. And it takes quite a lot to make my temper come to the surface.
It's the flimsy pretense of moderation that makes him so fucking infuriating.
But why would you want to?
Trust me. If they're juicy enough, it totally works.
I also came up with (thoroughly peeled) cucumber slices as a burger topping that works surprisingly well.
Moose - not unless he's changed his name recently.
GWPDA
Oh, GWPDA, I meant to put "just kidding" in there somewhere. Must be that self-destructive thing kicking in. 
that's why they voted for dukakis in '88.
PoppieProng
Thanks for the understanding. I took it that far, and even further. When I actually got into the government/ big business world and saw how useless most of the executive class was as far as actually producing anything, I got me some new religion. Swung as far left as the Counterpunch crowd, than back a little. Now I'm just one of those pesky "mainstream" progressives who thinks the DLC is a bunch of corporate sellouts.
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oh, man... i need to find a new cafe to do work at. one where the 16 year-olds working the counter dont have brand new Scion TCs or Mazda3s. That pisses me off. I got a $2000 Dodge shadow for my first car. Named it Hubert. I mean, fuck, I'm a lawyer and I can't afford a brand-new $17000 car. (shocking, ain't it? well, it comes with me refusing to kill myself working.)
I miss austin. I miss the flightpath, JP's Java Joint, Austin Java Co. (where i used to work)...
Fuck Houston.
Why would the President have a problem with his parents being friends with Clinton? I don't get it.
According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists' third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as "among the flotsam and jetsam" of the organisation.
Wasn't Jon Stewart ribbing Tom Ridge about how many "No. 3" guys we've captured?
Then, it's the double meat Itsa with chile for me. Fluffy? Did you hear?
Dreams, dreams. No, I haven't had the brakes on the trucka looked at, but I will.
"It's the flimsy pretense of moderation that makes him so fucking infuriating."
Eli
I think it's more his totally idiotic ideas, and his utterly pretentious delivery.
The fishwives say, we've got knives, there's an ocean out there, and no one will miss Bobo.
Do you replace the thyme?
That's right. Perform a Haloscan on it.
How twue, how twue...your answer appeared right before I posted my question.
I think it's more his totally idiotic ideas, and his utterly pretentious delivery.
But we *expect* that from right wing pundits. But Brooks pretends to be The Reasonable Voice Of The Middle, all the while with a heavy thumb on the right side of the scale.
I did think he did a decent job, for what it is, and I do think he genuinely gave a shit about people.
Well, what a great thing to say about a leader of a country.
Really.
What does it take for the a percentage of the American people to realize that a big-talking little man doesn't give a fuck what happens to them?
Sallyh,
That is so cool about your daughter. Raising kids is the hardest work in the world. But when you've done it right, nothing else is more rewarding. I was a single mom and my son went to Princeton on scholarship and then on to law school. He married a wonderful woman who is a prosecutor. We joke that she's the only one in the family who does "real" law. I love both of them so much. When I heard seven years ago, that I had breast cancer, the first thing I thought was, "Well, J. is through college and has a good head on his shoulders. He'll be ok." He's the best thing I've ever done.
Why would the President have a problem with his parents being friends with Clinton? I don't get it.
Being friends isn't so much the problem. It's him being another son, since W is already the least favorite.
Poppie Prong--when I worked at UCLA, if you compared the faculty lots vs. the student lots, guess which had more high end vehicles?
Eli,
I wouldn't be surprised. Everyone's like that. I myself can be quite a dick if you go out to rub me the wrong way. I must say, it was quite a surpise to move to an urban area, where white kids of a certain age gave older folks (of any color, but especially black) no sort of respect whatsoever. Political ideology was almost secondary to the college-age arrogance that most of us go through. Problem is, they never grew out of it. It still shocks me to hear that very certain tone of voice some folks I know use with the middle-aged black cat that sells Polish sausages outside the 40 Watt in Athens. And I'm the one who's supposed to be a knuckle-draggin', cousin-fuckin', sheet-wearin' redneck that can't say five words without "nigger" being three of them. But there's no racism problem in America, no siree!
Tom,
Yeah, but I'm talking about changing it in such a way that it'd actually help people enjoy life, rather than "Them that gots makes the rules and gets even more". The Bush people aren't trying to completely change the system; they're just making out like bandits on the already existing problems and, if possible, make it a little easier.
Hecate and GWPDA:
Dont forget that In-n-Out is owned by super-fundie christians...
I also came up with (thoroughly peeled) cucumber slices as a burger topping that works surprisingly well.
Eli, that's very close to the much beloved ring of green bell pepper used on hamburgers at Ike's Chili Parlor in Tulsa. Good taste, that.
Poppie, you miss the Austin Java Company? Harrumphh! The kids in there are a bunch of pierced-nipple ass-grabbers who may deign to notice you if it doesn't cut into their posing time.
Hecate--kudos to your son and daughter in law! They sound like fantastic people.
Randy and I had our hard times, what with her drug addiction and all, but somehow, we remained very close, and today, I am honored by her. She's smart, funny, compassionate, and hilarious. She's going to be a terrific nurse, which is her field of study.
"It's the flimsy pretense of moderation that makes him so fucking infuriating."
Eli
I think it's more his totally idiotic ideas, and his utterly pretentious delivery.
To me, its the unbelievable arrogance that lets him lecture about the real world while sitting in his Park Ave coop. How dare he - WTF does he know about working for a living?
David Brooks is a moron. "suffer for the greater good" or whatever the fuck he said? well, then, lets raise some fucking taxes to actually pay for things. GOD! I cannot wrap my head around intellectual dishonesty. it makes my eyes cross. the "progressive" indexing (i think it's another attempt at them stealing phrases to appeal to people) is simply Bush saying "well, since you don't want to go with private--i mean, personal--accounts, i'm going to destroy the whole things. suck it, bitches!"
Backslider, most white kids of a certain age have no respect for *anybody*. Actually, most *kids* of a certain age, come to think of it...
Over the past few weeks, the president has called their bluff.
Now where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah:
Democrats have good reason to be aghast at President Bush's new proposal for Social Security. Someone has finally called their bluff...
You know, it's one thing to have a guy on your staff who does nothing but retype his friends' press releases - when you've got two people doing it on the same fucking page, I think it's time for a little management meeting...
JSLB--I believe they're Mormons. i don't patronize them, which is a shame, because it's a delicious burger.
Same with Albertsons--the best quality groceries in the LA area, but the owners are Mormon.
Eli, that's very close to the much beloved ring of green bell pepper used on hamburgers at Ike's Chili Parlor in Tulsa. Good taste, that.
Mmm...
Poppie Prong--when I worked at UCLA, if you compared the faculty lots vs. the student lots, guess which had more high end vehicles?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
hell, it was the same at IU law. The students had better cars, on average, than the profs, and some of those profs had mercedes! (why the hell would anyone buy one is beyond me.)
Why would the President have a problem with his parents being friends with Clinton? I don't get it.
His parents are embarrassed because their son, who has never shown any initiative, was emasculated a long time ago.
Trolls can pretend otherwise.
georgie bush is a loser.
To me, its the unbelievable arrogance that lets him lecture about the real world while sitting in his Park Ave coop.
No, no, no. He doesn't sit in the coop; his wife does, and hatches their spawn.
Poppie--to be honest, my local Starbucks has a wonderful staff. Of course, we're a working class neighborhood.
Well, what a great thing to say about a leader of a country.
Yep. We all know that's a rare bird indeed. It never ceases to fail to amaze me to hear one of my historically minded friends to say how much s/he admires some king who conqured lands and made reforms for the peerage, and convieniantly forget the whole system was set up that most folks not only didn't get shit, they couldn't afford the smell. But then I think, "Hey, how many Jerry Lee Lewis records do you have, asshole?" and get over it.
Still. A leader that genuinely wants what's best for the people of his land, not what he thinks (or is told) is best for them. Ain't that a thing.
She's smart, funny, compassionate, and hilarious. She's going to be a terrific nurse, which is her field of study.
Oh, so when NTodd said they were studying last night - he meant they were playing doctor?
"No, no, no. He doesn't sit in the coop; his wife does, and hatches their spawn."
What? They let him reproduce?
(screams and runs)
Brooks pisses me off but I read
PoppieProng, I figure it's the nature of the banking industry at the moment. They'll offer to anyone on the basis of who is least likely to pay it back. My credit union just offered me a $35,000 loan for a new car - and I havent worked in two years.
Bush said the lessons of the past will not be forgotten as the United States tries to spread freedom in the Middle East.
"We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations, appeasing or excusing tyranny, and sacrificing freedom in the vain pursuit of stability," the president said. "We have learned our lesson; no one's liberty is expendable. In the long run, our security and true stability depend on the freedom of others."
Bush singled out the 1945 Yalta agreement signed by Roosevelt in a speech opening a four-day trip focused on Monday's celebration in Moscow of the 60th anniversary of Nazi Germany's defeat.
In recent days Bush has urged Russia to own up to its wartime past. It appeared he decided to do the same, himself, to set an example for
Vladimir Putin, the Russian president.
Try hard not to vomit.
Powell: "Ummm, whatever Sir. Man, do I regret this."
I recall seeing a photo of Bush and Powell. Bush is talking and Powell is looking at him and the expression on Powell's face says "Damn it, I should have run for President."
Flory--actually, NTodd is her guardian ad litem when Larry is off translating French. He knows Stef would kill him.
I recall seeing a photo of Bush and Powell. Bush is talking and Powell is looking at him and the expression on Powell's face says "Damn it, I should have run for President."
Or "I should have killed him when I had the chance"...
Having just arrived today, it would appear that Blake's is getting a lot of attention.
Going to New Mexico and NOT having Blake's is like going to the Vatican and NOT going into the Basilica.
Best Chocolate Shakes on Earth. The fries and burgers are incredible...I feel sorry for those who never left the East Coast, they missed out on something truly wonderful.
Dont forget that In-n-Out is owned by super-fundie christians...
Yeah, I haven't been there in a while -- not boycotting, Kirk's is just closer, but it does bug me that they put John 3:16 on the wrappers (or is it the cups?).
GWPDA, I'd take you up on the offer, but I'm driving the whole trip. No planes for me. I'm tired of having my luggage searched by the TSA every freaking time I go somewhere. There is a REASON why there are scissors and needles and fabric and embroidery floss and so on in my luggage. Geesh.
But seriously, I will make note of the Lota-Burger. Dunno about Los Alamos...
Sallyh,
One of my best friends from law school was a nurse. I learned to completely respect what nurses do from Karen. And when I broke my ankle, the nurses were so wonderful to me. It's great that your daughter wants to be a nurse; nurses, IMHO, totally rock.
Just for clarification, Bush owning up to "his" wartime past, is blaming Roosevelt for Yalta. I didn't cut off a crucial paragraph or anything.
Bill C. is the kind of son Barbara Bush wishes she could have had. He's smart, capable, and doesn't say VE-hicle. She wonders how she went wrong raising a child that grew up to be a fake Texan.
Still. A leader that genuinely wants what's best for the people of his land, not what he thinks (or is told) is best for them. Ain't that a thing.
Ain't it, indeed.
"Or "I should have killed him when I had the chance"..."
(the ears of the fishwives perk up)
Eli,
Well, I've been thinking lately that maybe one of society's main problems is that none of us really have any respect for each other. I'm not talking admiration or anything like that. Just a sense of "I'm a human being and you're a human being, and we have to be here together, so let's make it as not-unpleasent as possible." Just deal with each other instead of trying to get as much for you, whether it's at the expense of the other or not.
People shouldn't have to earn your respect, that basic base-line respect. They should just be able to lose it and maybe re-earn it. Forget about what people want until you can straighten out (and figure out) what they need.
WTF?
Haloscan cut off the rest of my post.
Oh well.
Here's Frank Rich on Laura.
Yes, Mrs. Bush was funny, but the mere sight of her "interrupting" her husband in an obviously scripted routine prompted a ballroom full of reporters to leap to their feet and erupt in a roar of sycophancy like partisan hacks at a political convention. The same throng's morning-after rave reviews acknowledged that the entire exercise was at some level P.R. but nonetheless bought into the artifice. We were seeing the real Laura Bush, we kept being told. Maybe.
"Ouch" is right. Poor Bill...
That's just sick... And wrong...
Seebach--I confess that the passage you posted made me gag on my very nice Beaujolais just a little.
Mormons? Thought the In-n-Out folks had a Revelations fixation...
Safeway is Mormon, but Albertson's?
Pie, only an utter dumbass could call someone who's been a two-time Governor of Texas and a two-time President of the United States an emasculated loser who shows no initiative.
I mean, isn't there any obligation to ground your insults in reality?
"We have learned our lesson; no one's liberty is expendable.
Unless of course, you're an AMERICAN gay, nonchristian, woman, poor, middle class, or a Democrat.
People shouldn't have to earn your respect, that basic base-line respect.
And if Americans can't respect *each other*, what chance to the Iraqis have?
Pitchforks--let's not forget black, Hispanic, physically/mentally disabled, ill...
We were seeing the real Laura Bush, we kept being told. Maybe.
Pfft. Only if she had actually written her own material.
Poppie--to be honest, my local Starbucks has a wonderful staff. Of course, we're a working class neighborhood.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
I used to work at *$. Loved my coworkers. if they had free wi-fi, i'd go more often. the strange thing about their coffee is if you get the drip coffee, it tastes metallic and gives me heartburn. not so if i make it at home. i have never figured it out. i think, oddly enough, its due to keeping the shuttles clean. at the end of the week, the coffee is mellower cuz the metal has been stained by the coffee. sounds like bullshit, but it's the only answer i can come up with.
i wish *$ didnt have such nasty business practices as far as real estate goes because otherwise, they do a good job. they pay more for coffee than folgers, maxwell house, etc, and they help with benefits for part-time employees along with same-sex benefits. but their expansion policies are asinine!
I'm a human being and you're a human being, and we have to be here together, so let's make it as not-unpleasent as possible." Just deal with each other instead of trying to get as much for you, whether it's at the expense of the other or not.
Namaste.
But seriously, I will make note of the Lota-Burger. Dunno about Los Alamos...
Oh. Hell. Well, the bridge and the drop are both in Santa Fe. WGG can show you.
The last time I flew back from Albuquerque the TSA searched my bag after I checked it in - they left a little note. Evidently they were curious as to what its weight was caused by. Two gallons of cider, a lug of apples, five Lota-burgers. A molcajete. Lota-burger french fries. They didn't take anything.
"Ouch" is right. Poor Bill...
Wow. I think you meant something else.
I can't beleieve the number of people who long for a president like Bill Clinton.
In a futile attempt to divert the thread from another discussion of delicious burgers - Anti-dietist pawns! I denounce you!
I was in Saturday night channel surfing mode, and happened across some cartoon on CN.
Batman tells some corporate Condi Rice substitute, "If you represent a threat to the world, we're taking you down. I don't care about your motives."
This is the world we live in - cartoon moonbats can engage in honest dialogue, while NYT columnists get themselves wrapped up in the charming comedy stylings of Laura Bush. Gggghh.
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Oh, and Backslider, is it possible for someone to earn our *disrespect*?
Toby... do you think Bush works harder than you do? Do you think he's shown more initiative than you?
PoppieProng, I figure it's the nature of the banking industry at the moment. They'll offer to anyone on the basis of who is least likely to pay it back. My credit union just offered me a $35,000 loan for a new car - and I havent worked in two years.
wow. that is really interesting. i think you're right about that. hmmm...
Watertiger:
No, no, no. He doesn't sit in the coop; his wife does, and hatches their spawn.
Right I forgot - he's in his corner office at the NYT building.
But seriously, I will make note of the Lota-Burger. Dunno about Los Alamos...
Fluffy Halifax --9:15 pm
i know New MExico about as well as any gringo i know, so if you're rolling through, you GOTTA give me a call...
the email works...
just sayin...
This is the world we live in - cartoon moonbats can engage in honest dialogue, while NYT columnists get themselves wrapped up in the charming comedy stylings of Laura Bush. Gggghh.
I'd be willing to bet that Frank Rich was not raving about Laura Bush's comedic brilliance.
Starbucks - the moronic brownshirt fucks of the coffee world.
Make mine Peet's!
Seebach:
Toby... do you think Bush works harder than you do? Do you think he's shown more initiative than you?
Of course he does. You whiners have this idea that Bush just coasts through life without any effort, but that's manifestly untrue.
Politicking takes a lot of work, let alone being the most powerful man on Earth.
OT, but here's your Derby payout:
10 Giacomo 102.60 45.80 19.80
18 Closing Argument 70.00 24.80
12 Afleet Alex 4.60
$2 Exacta (10-1
Paid $9,814.80
$2 Trifecta (10-18-12) Paid $133,134.80
$1 Superfecta (10-18-12-17) Paid $864,253.50
As DRF says:
...If you cashed a ticket, congratulations. If you cashed the superfecta, enjoy your retirement.
And, as always, ignore the moronic brownshirt fuck...
Politicking takes a lot of work, let alone being the most powerful man on Earth.
That must be how he gets to bed at 9pm every night.
Dave--love Pete's; it tastes far better than 'bucks, but have to go to West LA for it. The drive is painful.
We are seeing more Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf shops springing up, but sadly, fewer Gloria Jean's.
We do support two indie coffeeshops in town. Buffalo Bill's Mercantile has a limited but tasty selection of drip coffees and lattes; I sometimes consign baked goods there. Coffee & Cream has wonderful products, but the owners are so nasty that it's hardly worth it to enter.
The main reason I don't do Buffalo Bill's more often is that it's in a bad location for getting in and out, and there's no parking.
George W. Horsecrank Bush
"The most powerful man on earth..."
"I'm a human being and you're a human being, and we have to be here together, so let's make it as not-unpleasant as possible."
Let's face it...everyone knows the world is running mighty low on resources... The new right's mission is about locking down the privilege of using what's left, by hook or crook.
The only way this will end is by them breaking the bank.
only an utter dumbass could call someone who's been a two-time Governor of Texas and a two-time President of the United States an emasculated loser who shows no initiative
The governor of Texas doesn't call the shots.
Christ. the big men put georgie into the White House, and he was in his Texass mode. What a sad time for America. I weep for my country.
georgie's a loser.
Worst. President. Ever.
Toby, you're in quicksand, my friend.
That must be how he gets to bed at 9pm every night.
And don't forget those month-long do-not-disturb vacations.
Namaste.
Sure.
Politicking is hard work?
Try policy making. That's actual hard work.
Starbucks - the moronic brownshirt fucks of the coffee world.
Make mine Peet's!
i was thrilled to see a Peets go in on the drag. too bad Houston only has *$, "It's a Grind" and Deidrichs. well, that's not fair. there is the Empire Cafe, but I'm not sure it's exactly Kosher to whip out your laptop and spend 6 hours working there.
Tonight's required reading for all brownshirts: Gilliard's smackdown of Tipsy McStagger, the president who knows shit about history.
Make mine Peet's!
Amen to that.
And don't forget those month-long do-not-disturb vacations.
Except when white women in persistent vegetative states are involved.
Eli--I would so love GWB's vacation schedule. And his working hours.
I wonder if Bar's comment about her new 'son' wasn't also a little payback for Laura's rather nasty comment about her in last week's speech.
I'd be willing to bet that Frank Rich was not raving about Laura Bush's comedic brilliance.
Frank Rich
Paul Krugman
Bob Herbert
and only intermittently: MoDo
the only voices of reason at the NY Times.
Except when white women in persistent vegetative states are involved.
Well, you do have to make exceptions for national security emergencies.
...love Peet's; it tastes far better than 'bucks, but have to go to West LA for it.
Actually, I didn't know they had one in LA! Well, order some beans for shipping - I'll personally vouch for their current Anniversary Blend.
The greater point, of course, is every place has a local alternative to Starbucks. Find it, use it, support it.
I wonder if Bar's comment about her new 'son' wasn't also a little payback for Laura's rather nasty comment about her in last week's speech.
I'm just waiting for Bar, The Wire Monkey, to allude to Laura's driving skills.
Diane--from what I gather, Barbara Bush makes most axe murderers appear benevolent.
Houston blows cuz it takes a goddamned hour to get anywhere. when i lived in Austin, I could get anywhere in the city in less than 30 minutes.
it blows my mind. my brother and sis-in-law lived on 48th street. his best friend lived 16 miles north, in Cedar Park, near Lakeline mall. They teased the poor guy mercilessly, saying "you come on into town some day, y'hear?" (it was all with love)
I work 26 miles from work in Houston. takes me an hour and 20 minutes each way to go to work. it's disgusting. but that's the nature of law, i guess. i have to put in the time to get the damn experience and then move up in the world. any austin lawyers here who need a new associate?
someone who's been a two-time Governor of Texas and a two-time President of the United States an emasculated loser who shows no initiative.
"Free thinking" Bush knob-slobbin' goblin
"You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your god's name
I'm every person you need to be
I'm the cult of personality"
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Eli--I would so love GWB's vacation schedule. And his working hours.
I'd love to have his inability to worry.
Was it George Carlin who said the Radical Religious Right only cares about life when it's before birth or after death?
Eli--I would so love GWB's vacation schedule. And his working hours.
The president of the United States should be:
Smarter than me.
Harder-working than me.
More articulate than me.
More gracious than me.
I'm sure there's a few more I'm leaving out...
sallyh:
Try policy making. That's actual hard work.
Take something like Social Security. Bush gets no credit for insisting that it needs some long-term reforms, yet everybody knows that it does. The numbers are inescapable. At least Bush is standing up and making reform his policy. What do the Democrats do? Dick.
the only voices of reason at the NY Times.
Oh, but what glorious voices they are. Especially Rich & Krugman. Herbert can be heartbreaking sometimes, though.
What do the Democrats do? Dick.
Toby Petzold
You should probably be honored that they name a major policy initiative after you.
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You should probably be honored that they name a major policy initiative after you.
"Leave No Troll Behind"?
Was it George Carlin who said the Radical Religious Right only cares about life when it's before birth or after death?
probably. i think Pelosi cribbed that recently. or hillary. some Dem said it. i was so stunned that a Dem actually said something like that, that i forgot who it was.
10 Giacomo 102.60 45.80 19.80
WhooHooo!!!
Times ten in my case!
Garcon?
Burgers for all my friends
Take something like Social Security. Bush gets no credit for insisting that it needs some long-term reforms, yet everybody knows that it does.
Yes. I'm sure that he, himself, came up with the idea and courageously decided it was an issue, instead of say, being fed the issue by the Heritage Foundation and the Club for Growth.
Eli, I didn't vote for Bush in 2000 because I didn't think I should be smarter than the President of the United States. But I've come around to the genius of binary thinking. Sometimes, nuance is just sophistry.
Do you agree with me? Yes or no.
Also, Social Security is dead nomatter what we do. So it really doesn't matter what cute thing Bush does. All the money will be wiped out when the stock market crashes, anyway.
In a constitutional republic, Seebach, leaders are supposed to rely on the counsels of their peers.
Now back to Havana with you.
Bob Novak on the Crapitol Gang called Bobo's bluff: he said, quite openly, that Bush wants to turn SocSec into a fully-fledged welfare programme. And in doing so, he can then campaign to treat it the way Republicans treat any other welfare programme.
Y'all notice how Pretznilface McBumpNoggin delivered his speech in Latvia exactly as if it was one of his canned "everbuddy herre luvs me" whistle stops?
Man, that guy is embarassing.
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Bush should get credit for saying that whatever long-term concerns there are about Social Security - and there are some, undoubtably - should be dealt with RIGHT FUCKING NOW and only by completely changing the entire structure but we're not gonna tell you how, why don't you tell us your ideas. He should also get at least a little bit of credit for helping to extricate some of those long-term concerns about Soical Security because of his rampant spending and foolish economic decisions. I'll definately give him credit for that.
Bush gets no credit for insisting that it needs some long-term reforms, yet everybody knows that it does. The numbers are inescapable.
Whose numbers?
Toby, you're a helpless human being enthralled by a cult of righteous conformity, not a Finance Graduate. I am. Fuck you, you're talking out of your ass.
The fund is variable, it could go broke next week if everyone became disabled. It's flexible, and its solvency changes with the times. Obviously, Bush has trashed the economy, and less is being paid in... so it appears to be going broke.
The entire issue was brought up to rape the Democrats in the next election... it's being painted a no-win situation in order to drag whoever runs against your buddies behind a pickup truck until death occurs.
Amusing. I think Bush is an imcompetent who doesn't work, and thus I am a communist. If Bush worked in your company, you would have fired his ass.
woohoo! Pacers won. Sorry to all the Boston fans out there. I like Reggie Miller. And it's Indiana. what can I say? You go to IU for law school, you like Indiana teams.
Now the Rockets are up! Go Rockets!
Something Ugly this way comes.
Something stupid this way comes.
Something that no one likes this way comes.
And it leaves such a smelly mess.
It claims that it is smarter than Bush, but has its head so far up Bush's ass that the preznit may need to put a window in his gut so *it* can see where it's going.
Eli--not to be overly bitchy--okay, take that back, I'm going to be incredibly bitchy--the President should be willing to work 18 hours a day. Longer, if necessary. Goddess knows most of us are working a lot longer than we should, and most of our wages have declined.
Toby is so gullible that he ended up in bed with Ann Coulter and didn't realise he'd be the bottom.
...in Pasadena, about a mile from the InandOut on Foothill Blvd.
Diane
are you the one always sticking out into the street blocking my egress?
Backslider--I notice that Bush is avoiding the programs where there is a real problem--Medicaid and Medicare. His Medicaid cuts should have every governor ready to strangle him.
And for any of the less than brights in the room, Bush does NOT have a social security policy.
PoppieProng,
did you do L-school in B-town?
Thanks for the news about the pacers, for some reason I thought the game was on later.
Damn the visiting teams win the last four games, or is it 5. Thats something.
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Hey, no argument here, Sallyh. It's like a 5-year-long episode of The Simple Life: Presidents...
Sallyh,
Yeah. Makes me wonder who's making money of that particular boondoggle. You think if certain folks weren't set to make shit-tons of money off the whole privitazation thing, the powers that be would give two shits if Social Security existed or not?
And for any of the less than brights in the room, Bush does NOT have a social security policy.
Sure he does. Find some way to undermine social security, so it can be later destroyed. Just like No Child Left Behind is a plan to destroy public education so it can be replaced.
And for any of the less than brights in the room, Bush does NOT have a social security policy.
"Hulk Smash!" isn't a policy?
"We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations, appeasing or excusing tyranny.."
Seebach
Fortunate Son would just crap his diapers if he had to deal with foreign countries that had as much power as the U.S.
Once again, the "born on third base, but thinks he hit a triple" phrase is appropriate.
One of the few things I give Reagan props for is that he somehow managed to avoid Nuclear holocaust despite his ideological leanings. Luck? I dunno, but I think if chimpy were in his place, we'd all be glowing like Kingsford charcoal right now.
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Oh, but what glorious voices they are. Especially Rich & Krugman. Herbert can be heartbreaking sometimes, though.
Eli
When Marla Ruzicka died I got so pissed with the way she was portrayed on "news" shows and in the papers that I e-mailed about 25 "news" shows and columnists asking that they do a little research and talk or write about what Ms. Ruzicka was really doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. Bob Herbert was the only one that came through. I'll love him forever for that.
did you do L-school in B-town?
i did i did. my wife is still there for grad school, while i'm stuck here in houston. IT SUCKS! I miss Bloomington. kinda. it was a great place to study, since there wasn't much distraction. the weather's great, and it's very green. unlike houston. which is very grey.
Eli--at least there's the potential on SL of the Hiltons being marginally amusing.
I think that's what's lacking in the christoid-robber baron mentality: fun. The ability to enjoy life knowing your priorities are in order and that while things may not be where they should, the trajectory is solid.
BTW, Spinoza has me working on the prejudice model. I am so going to kill him next time I see him. i have accomplished nada today, thanks to him.
Hey, no argument here, Sallyh. It's like a 5-year-long episode of The Simple Life: Presidents...
I assure you that if I was not moderately torqued at the moment, I would be laughing. my. ass. off.
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Hello, dear ones.
Back from a Derby party where, (please sit down) I farking lost!!!!!!!!! Big news there. If any of you ever wish to bet on the horsies, contact me first. I can tell you exactly which horse has no chance of winning.
Bob Herbert was the only one that came through. I'll love him forever for that.
I think his columns on the Tulia fiasco were when I really started to take notice.
Pitchforks:
The entire issue was brought up to rape the Democrats in the next election... it's being painted a no-win situation in order to drag whoever runs against your buddies behind a pickup truck until death occurs.
That's an interesting metaphor. Could you be more excessive?
And how is proposing SS reform "raping" the Democrats? The only way that'll happen is if they continue to propose nothing and only make criticisms.
And the inescapable numbers? I'm thinking of the ratio of workers to retirees. It's shrinking with demographic inevitability. How does your party plan to deal with it?
Man, that guy is embarassing.
Goddess, please give us back a philanderer who can go oversees and not embarass us. Bush is SUCH an embarassment.
Fuck TP with a jagged fishknife.
I think his columns on the Tulia fiasco were when I really started to take notice.
That's where I first heard of it too. Back in the day, NPR ran several long pieces about as well. Long ago. Back when they used to be good and had real standards.
Hecate--in Europe, they're surprised if a powerful politician doesn't take a mistress. It's almost de rigeur.
Ten years from now, as if anyone's going to be worried about social security. That's such a laugh.
You think if certain folks weren't set to make shit-tons of money off the whole privitazation thing, the powers that be would give two shits if Social Security existed or not?
This crew has established a government of the looters, by the looters, for the looters, and prays that it won't perish from the earth.
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Fortunate Son would just crap his diapers if he had to deal with foreign countries that had as much power as the U.S.
well, we've seen how much trouble he's had with countries the size of California, so I can't wait to see what he does with Iran, North Korea, and oh, don't look now...is that China? Good Christ, China's on the rise.
you know, on NPR, just after the election, they interviewed some guy just hired by the pentagon. he was talking about how it might be prudent to realize that China's on the rise and there's no way the US can compete with it once it hits its stride, so maybe we need to start thinking about being a good neighbor. and i was thinking, where the hell did they get this guy? i have no idea if he has had any effect, but if he can keep us from going into iran, north korea, or both, then more power to the pentagon for hiring him.
BTW, Spinoza has me working on the prejudice model. I am so going to kill him next time I see him. i have accomplished nada today, thanks to him.
Now wait a moment. You obviously need to put down your slide rule and have a drink on me. But if you do get a signal detection model up and running let me know. If not, try MDS.
Goddess, please give us back a philanderer who can go oversees and not embarass us. Bush is SUCH an embarassment.
Oh, Hecate, I was slobbering about that this morning. I hate seeing our country represented by an ignorant, foolish idiot. I could die of shame watching him.
Toby,
Let's say I took $6,000 a year from you and millions of others, and you were forced to invest it in Haliburton. After 10 years, Haliburton has $1 Trillion hiding in South Africa, and suddenly goes bankrupt, and closes its doors. Your account vaporizes, and you're in the street when you retire.
Do you REALLY want to be forced into a situation like that? I mean, if you tried to declare bankruptcy personally, you'd be laughed out of court. Cheney is a superempowered individual with more rights than you. Why can't you admit this?
Think !!!
"Hulk Smash!" isn't a policy?
Stoli all over the laptop.
they're surprised if a powerful politician doesn't take a mistress. It's almost de rigeur.
de rigeur. heh heh
"We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations, appeasing or excusing tyranny.."
"Unless they let us have military bases and airstrips and, heh heh, 'help us in the war on terror' like Pakistan or Uzbekistan, or their old family friends like the Saudi royal family. Other than that, nope, no appeasing going on here."
China's on the rise and there's no way the US can compete with it once it hits its stride
Of course the problem is, China will never hit its stride and will probably be quite angry about that, and decide to take us down with it.
I am not a Democrat. There is not a party that espouses my needs right now.
"Unless they let us have military bases and airstrips and, heh heh, 'help us in the war on terror' like Pakistan or Uzbekistan, or their old family friends like the Saudi royal family. Other than that, nope, no appeasing going on here."
Boy, it'd really make Bush look like an idiot if other countries knew about that stuff, eh?
PoppieProng,
Whats yer wife studying? I happen to be a native born B-towner, and yes it is very green. Sucks about the long distance thing though. When does she finish?
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Oh, but what glorious voices they are. Especially Rich & Krugman. Herbert can be heartbreaking sometimes, though.
I would like to associate myself with that statement in the strongest possible way. Voices of logic and reason are hard to come by these days.
Hecate--in Europe, they're surprised if a powerful politician doesn't take a mistress. It's almost de rigeur.
Word. America. Please grow the fuck up about sex. Because if you hurt yourself, I will laugh.
Spinoza--actually, it's my own damn fault, but it's more fun to blame you
I really am intrigued by this. It's going to take me a while, but I'm having way too much fun with it, and this is why the house has not been suitably cleaned.
And the inescapable numbers? I'm thinking of the ratio of workers to retirees. It's shrinking with demographic inevitability. How does your party plan to deal with it?
Toby Petzold
Wanna see how the Democrats will deal with Social Security? Vote Democrat in 2006 and give the House and Senate majorities back to the Democrats.
Where is Incog? I read his posts earlier and have to say that he is very rude to this group and is forgiven for it too easily because people feel his pain, but god damn it, he's wrong to make y'all feel guilty or bad as if you're responsible for the condition of queers in Bush's America.
Just do what Blak does and let it slide off because it's not truly an attack on you. I appreciate the feeling of family here as I live in red Georgia, although Pine Lake is 30 % gay.
That said, I'm pissed at Incog for not being serious about emigrating. I've engaged him several times and he backs off and says he's going to stay and fight, but not once has he given any evidence of researching leaving, like I've done.
NTodd, I've had a few beers, alas, and probably should be quiet as I'm not as nimble and witty as you -- who is?
But I want to know that if things get bad here that I have people I can depend on to help me get out of this country, right now either Canada or Uruquay, but if I'm desperate anywhere at all.
Bless you, Atrios, for making a home for progressives.
Spinoza--actually, it's my own damn fault, but it's more fun to blame you.
Yes, well I have been in relationships like that.
It's going to take me a while, but I'm having way too much fun with it, and this is why the house has not been suitably cleaned.
*Tangina sighs and trudges back to her trailer*
Of course the problem is, China will never hit its stride and will probably be quite angry about that, and decide to take us down with it.
Yeah, China's tricky either way. If they succeed in becoming the uber-economy, we're screwed, and if they don't and get sick of us needling them... *sigh*
"The only way that'll happen is if they continue to propose nothing and only make criticisms."
Only valid if the problem is as defined. Seems a lot of people do not think it is the problem as defined. A guy who lights up a cigarette in a theater is not a reason for someone to scream "Fire!".
Hey, just making a flying visit in to encourage everyone to contact me re: EschaCon and to say that I've been cruising the Eschatonian blogs for an hour or so and we have some seriously smart people posting here. If I could do links worht a damn (I *know* what to do, but I nmess it up fully half the time and I'm suck and suspect sinus medicine won't help my tags, but here's a short, incomplete list of supercool blogs by sometime and regular Eschaton posters
Bouphonia
Culture of Life News II
Dependable Renegade
Dohiyi Mir
First Draft (natch)
Great Scat!
Metacomments
Multimedium
No Capital
Rampaging PMS (LJ has ended her hiatus with a vengeance!)
Rising Hegemon
Stayin' Alive
The Otter Side
and it goes on.... an embarrassment of riches, truly.
Pitchforks, not only is Bush's privatization proposal partial, it's voluntary. What's this crap about being forced to invest in Halliburton? Those individual accounts, which survive you for the benefit of your family (which is just a hateful idea, right?), are supposed to be spread around among stocks and bonds. If those funds had to be invested only in stocks, I wouldn't support it because it's too volatile, even in good times.
Pine Lake Larry--where is that boy, NTodd?
Tangina sighs and trudges back to her trailer*
Eli- Is that a double-wide?
IMHO
1/3 lb. is the ideal size for a burger. 1/2 lb. is too large and 1/4 lb. is too small.
(we're talkin' meat to bun ratio, here...)
Bush? An embarrassment?
Zounds!
Eli- Is that a double-wide?
I dunno, Tangina was pretty wee, IIRC...
kent: she's studying english. she should be able to move down to texas in december. we've been apart for one year (with monthly visits) already. i wish i could move back to hoosier-land but the economy blows and it's nigh impossible to find a job at a law firm up there right now. besides i would have to take the indiana bar. no more bar exams for me!
Petzold misses a couple of important points.
1. We already have private savings vehicles, and yes, they are voluntary. It doesn't need to be extended to SS.
2. For many, all of their 401(k)s are in company stock, which might very well be very worthless and very fast.
I think that's what's lacking in the christoid-robber baron mentality: fun.
Making more money than your great-great-grandchildren could possibly spend is the priority. There's no room for fun!!!
Watertiger--Queen of Photocaptioning.
Aw shucks, Mar.
Especially since my top two posts right now are a cat picture and something about a time travelers' convention, a motorized couch, and a "pizza button" at MIT...
Flory--regrettably, for nearly all of us, that isn't even a remote possibilty.
Toby, Bush lies. He doesn't care about the poor or the elderly. It's all a trap so the proposal can be changed in committee to whatever will destroy social security.
But I've come around to the genius of binary thinking. Sometimes, nuance is just sophistry.
Toby Petzold
Our heroic troll, having hit his head in the B/W world of ordinary Kansas, suddenly finds himself transported to a colorful world where monkeys fly and cowardly lions get medals for courage.
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watertiger: hahahahah! i love making up captions, and that is a great one!
"The only way that'll happen is if they continue to propose nothing and only make criticisms."
TALKING POINT! The rethugs have consistantly played by the rule that only 1 session needs to be held to call a meeting to order, then dismissed. Then they block Dems from further disscusion while The GOP go to meetings behind closed doors and make legislation and hand it off to the Dems with scant time to even review it before a vote is called for. That ain't democracy.
What Eli said, Mary.
Except my top two posts are pictures of Bush looking like the winner of the Twit Olympics.
And how is proposing SS reform "raping" the Democrats? The only way that'll happen is if they continue to propose nothing and only make criticisms.
And the inescapable numbers? I'm thinking of the ratio of workers to retirees. It's shrinking with demographic inevitability. How does your party plan to deal with it?
Toby, I think it's great that you're here raising points. The problem is, that you and the rest of red 'Merkins reduce everything to simplicity.
SS is a no-win issue for the Democrats. It was brought up so it could be spun into a disaster story. No matter what solution is proposed by the Democrats (i.e. raising the retirement age, cutting benefits, or God forbid...making the rich pay the same percentage as a $6.00/hr. burger flipper), the opposition is painted the bad guy.
"Toby, Bush lies. He doesn't care about the poor or the elderly. It's all a trap so the proposal can be changed in committee to whatever will destroy social security."
Seebach sums it up nicely. The only problem I see is that 'poor or elderly' is insufficient to cover all the ground Bush does.
PoppieProng,
next time you are up for one of your visits, send me an email, and we should do din-din or drinks, or both. It would be a pleasure to make your aquaintance in person.
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By the way, when is the Democratic Party's isolationism going to translate into a stronger anti-immigration policy?
If HRC has an ace in the hole, that would be it.
Oh, Hecate, I was slobbering about that this morning. I hate seeing our country represented by an ignorant, foolish idiot. I could die of shame watching him.
My country is not represented by that slobbering moran. A noisy, rude, intolerant, bitter and envious minority of MY country is represented by him. The rest of us are waiting him out.
Pine Lake Larry--where is that boy, NTodd?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Sally, since he's not here, I'm going to confide in you that I think he's the hottest dude here, Quaker or not.
Is there anyone like NTodd? He is, as Incog has said, in a class by himself, a metrosexual's metrosexual.
I heart Liddy Dole's auxiliary nipple
-Toby Petzold
correction: one picture of Bush looking like he won the Twit Olympics, and a picture of that ass't sec. of state who looks like a blond Hitler.
I like to be precise.
Well, maybe it's the antihistamine talking, but I'm honored by the presence of so much wisdom and good humor and ethical thinking here. It would be easy, I think, to believe that we're alone, that no one thinks as we think, sees the problems we see. But reading here, seeing people's own blogs--that's a good corrective to the barrage of crap we get from all around us daily.
Ah, crap. Gotta be the antihistamine.
kent: sweeeeeeeet! it probably won't be before this fall, but i'll try to remember. we could go to nick's, or the trojan horse, or upland, or... um... sorry, but not the vid.
Just starting to catch up, I thought this was ironic (Fron the NYTimes)
"In his speech on Saturday, Mr. Bush seemed certain to irritate Mr. Putin further when he warned him as he had in February about retreating on democracy. "All free and successful countries have some common characteristics - freedom of worship, freedom of the press, economic liberty, the rule of law and the limitation of power through checks and balances," Mr. Bush said."
Except my top two posts are pictures of Bush looking like the winner of the Twit Olympics.
He scored perfect 10s in the "Kicking the beggar" event, but had very little success unhooking the bra on the womannequin.
By the way, when is the Democratic Party's isolationism going to translate into a stronger anti-immigration policy?
Silly Toby. Neither party will support less immigration, because immigration = cheap profits. And isn't that good for the free market or whatever?
sallyh - exactly why we have room for fun in our lives. Obsessing over money describes nobody in this group.
PoppieProng.
Hangin' with kent is a lot of fun, as I can attest.
Aw shucks, Mar.
I feel yer pain Eli, all I got are rodent entrails on the dining room rug and a couple of snaps of a new mother min-pin that lives next door.
hmmmmmmm Motorized Couch, hmmmmmmmm, might the time machine take advantage of such technology?
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NYMary,
It ain't the drugs talking. You have just become so unused to reason by what you see from the press that it looks brand new.
btw, kent, the picture of the rodent entrails on your webpage is... um... gross.
Ah, crap. Gotta be the antihistamine.
Another victim of allergies. Fuck 'em, I say, sneezing so hard I throw out my back.
Pitchforks:
SS is a no-win issue for the Democrats. It was brought up so it could be spun into a disaster story.
This is a misunderstanding similar to that of the doctrine of pre-emptive war. And it's based on a lie that Bush said Saddam was an imminent threat. He never said that. He said Saddam was a gathering threat. The idea is that you do soemthing about the inevitable problem on your own terms rather than waiting too long and having to deal with it on someone else's terms.
No matter what solution is proposed by the Democrats (i.e. raising the retirement age, cutting benefits, or God forbid...making the rich pay the same percentage as a $6.00/hr. burger flipper), the opposition is painted the bad guy.
Then you should be glad that we have a President who's smart enough to pull that off.
And it's based on a lie that Bush said Saddam was an imminent threat. He never said that. He said Saddam was a gathering threat.
This proves Toby argues in bad faith.
PoppieProng.
Hangin' with kent is a lot of fun, as I can attest.
NYMary/Lissadell |
really? yay!
you know, flory's comment makes me think. as many cool lawyers visit Atrios, can you imagine the kickass law firm we could create? a boy can dream i guess.
Eli,
I just wish he'd quit talking big about tyranny when he's dealing with the guy who runs Uzbekistan, a gentleman known to boils dissidents in fucking oil. "Oh, Saddam - who we supported and financed for almost two decades - is another Hitler, but you, you're just a snuggy bear, aren't you."
I wish all politicians would do that, though, frankly. Cut out the bullshit and talk straight for once.
btw, kent, the picture of the rodent entrails on your webpage is... um... gross.
Yeah I know. I almost stepped into them with socks on in the wee of the morning, bleary eyed and before coffee. But the surgical precision was something to behold.
I guess its time to move that image beneath the fold with a couple of fat black cat pictures.
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Good morning, moonbats. I just woke up a little while ago from an allergy-induced nap. Besides Toby being a putz, what have I missed?
Well, maybe it's the antihistamine talking...
Auntie Histamine don't talk; she snores...
kent, ick.
hmmmmmmm Motorized Couch, hmmmmmmmm, might the time machine take advantage of such technology?
I dunno, but if I could fit it into the elevator at work, I'd be all set.
That, and figuring out a way to get it down my stairs.
I wish all politicians would do that, though, frankly. Cut out the bullshit and talk straight for once.
Okay, Backslider, please put down the crack pipe!
NTodd,
SallyH and Pine Lake Harry were extolling your virtues.
Oh, and Bush is still Twit Olympics gold medalist.
Ah, crap. Gotta be the antihistamine.
It's been my experience that one can never take enough antihistamine to really buffer the reality of upstate New York.
Has Babs called Rove yet to appologize?
EkC,
I read that article and then somewhere else where a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court. Hahahahahahah. Whew. Hahahahaha. Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
Yeah I know. I almost stepped into them with socks on in the wee of the morning, bleary eyed and before coffee. But the surgical precision was something to behold.
okay, that's true; it is quite amazing. good thing you didn't step in it! (i'm soooooo glad my cat is an indoor cat!)
Evening, freethinkers
Toby, It's not smart, it's manipulative and devious, the only reason for doing so is to maintain power.
Lord Acton said, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Blind faith in bad leadership is NOT patriotism.
I read that article and then somewhere else where a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court. Hahahahahahah. Whew. Hahahahaha. Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
Schweeeeeeeeeeeet!
Kent you are postive one of your guys did the job. Or maybe you had a mini black helicopter visit.
Yeah I know. I almost stepped into them with socks on in the wee of the morning, bleary eyed and before coffee. But the surgical precision was something to behold.
I guess its time to move that image beneath the fold with a couple of fat black cat pictures.
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet. Gah. Didn't kill it, either.
I have now bumped the cat and time travelers and etc. down with some Miscellaneous Transport Components Photoblogging.
Evenin', Ripely.
I can't believe Bush calls Putin "Vladimir". He's not even a white hat, in Bush's little Manichean world. Or he shouldn't be.
This proves Toby argues in bad faith.
Same as it ever was.
And this picture of w needs no captioning..
NYMary ...
Did you or Thersites do the Motorhead show in NYC on Thursday PM? Not-Mister went and he is just about recovered.
SallyH and Pine Lake Harry were extolling your virtues.
Oh, how nice! I certainly can be moderately virtuous when I'm in the mood.
Bush is still Twit Olympics gold medalist.
Damn, I was hoping all this was just a horrible, horrible dream. Mebbe I'll go back to sleep.
Did Toby just call Democrats isolationists?
hahahahahahahahahahaha
gasp
hahahahahahahahahahaha
I think Clinton is probably as dismayed by the bitterness and partisanship that are rending our government as the rest of us are, and has been trying to do his bit to bridge the gulf. Admirable, but the fault lies entirely on the other side.
Clinton should just tell the Bushes to go suck a fat one.
NTodd--someone is spreading a vicious rumor that I am extolling your virtues...
do you have any?
And I think Babs started to say "Son of a bitch", realized what she would me saying, and caught herself just in time.
Dammit.
Eli, I believe it was called "The Upper Class Twit of the Year Competition."
Unfortunately, George W. will probably not run himself over with the Jaguar convertible.
Pitchforks, not only is Bush's privatization proposal partial, it's voluntary.
Toby Petzold
Whoopee! 2 TRILLION FUCKIN DOLLARS down the Citibank memory hole. All to get us a system where Jane and Joe SixPack get their benefits reduced.
Remember, when goofball wants to pull his "reasonable" schtick, he's Trollby.
When he lets his librul hatin', brownshirt wearin' freak flag fly, he's Avestus.
Back to topics that really matter, what are you all watching tonight? I'm torn between Branaugh's Henry V and Hedwig.
And screw the burger-joint discussion. How about favorite delicatessens? There was this place in Pacific Grove, CA that was paradise. The fresh bread, the meats, you could just plotz.
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I read that article and then somewhere else where a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court. Hahahahahahah. Whew. Hahahahaha. Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
there was also something interesting he said about ww2 and East Germany this week. i can't remember what it was... but it struck me at the time as odd.
Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
Evil yes, but cunning and smart. Bush, well, two outta three ain't bad...
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet.
1. Crushing a waterbug (aka NYC palmetto bug, with attitude) under my bare heel, unwittingly.
2. Stepping in dogshit barefoot, in a downpour, with emphasis on the toes.
bigvic, yep I have seen the same reference around. Fun it is like Pinky and the Brain are having a tiff. I think Bush is pinky. Mind you I am only slightly familiar with the series so I may be off a bit.
I read that article and then somewhere else where a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court. Hahahahahahah. Whew. Hahahahaha. Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
bigvic
Ah, another wildly successful diplomatic to Europe and environs.
How lucky we are.
NTodd--I am, for the record, cooking your beef stroganoff recipe for dinner. I have a different recipe (bechamel sauce, beef consomme, dry white wine), so we'll see if the family likes your version better.
Oh, and it's no rat entrails, but there's Belated Babyblogging at the homepage.
I take it you all have seen Bush's comments about Yalta?
I know most Americans think we won WWII singlehandedly, and George S. Patton was responsible for most of it, and would have conquered Russia in two weeks if we' let him...
...but our Presidents have usually been a bit more circumspect than that.
Honestly. Every time you think this man can be any stupider, he goes and proves you wrong. Remind me again why a guy who pisses on every other country in the world is a "great leader"? Especially since he's proven our military is nothing more than a paper tiger, that Vietnam was not a fluke, and that we didn't learn a damned thing in the 20th century?
I'll retire to Bedlam....
and to be clear, i mean ww2 and east germany were discussed separately. it wasnt like ww2 and EG in the same context. cuz that would be assinine.
a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court.
Yes, Pooty Poot is a bit pissed at Dubya. Gonna be on 60 Minutes tomorrow night. Mayhaps the honeymoon is over.
1. Crushing a waterbug (aka NYC palmetto bug, with attitude) under my bare heel, unwittingly.
Ohjeez. That was, like, my ultimate worst nightmare as a kid. There are few things more genuinely horrible than waterbugs, except maybe flying roaches.
Hi NTodd. I finally got quicktime working on my new laptop so I was able to hear and NToddcast for the first time today.
Do you realize how much work is not going to get done while I catch up on the archives?
Eli, I believe it was called "The Upper Class Twit of the Year Competition."
I didn't want to correct Ms. Tigre because, well, she's hot.
RMJ--you can't retire to Bedlam. We're living in it.
Same as it ever was.
And this picture of w needs no captioning..
what a FANTASTIC photoshop! very well done. "shay hello to ma leetle fren'!"
Good morning, moonbats. I just woke up a little while ago from an allergy-induced nap.
That is exactly what happens to me when I take the effective allergy meds. Kiss your ass goodbye. Those things are knock-out drops! Talk about a head full of fuzz.
I am, for the record, cooking your beef stroganoff recipe for dinner. I have a different recipe (bechamel sauce, beef consomme, dry white wine), so we'll see if the family likes your version better.
Uh-oh, that's a lot of pressure!
I didn't want to correct Ms. Tigre because, well, she's hot.
[blushes - twirls her hair around one finger]
I was going for speed, not accuracy, on that one. My apologies if I offended the purists.
Hiya, Ripley!
Moose Pudding: I just got my Mother's Day gift, a Devo DVD. That's what *we're* wathcing, anyway.
NTodd--speaking of pressure, I pissed the girl off. Her bf was not ready when she went to pick him up, said he wouldn't be done working for 20 more minutes, and she called me going ballistic. I told her, either grow up or don't date anyone. Was I unfair?
I take it you all have seen Bush's comments about Yalta?
WTF? You mean we had farking allies? No way.
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet.
1. Crushing a waterbug (aka NYC palmetto bug, with attitude) under my bare heel, unwittingly.
2. Stepping in dogshit barefoot, in a downpour, with emphasis on the toes.
watertiger
Reminds me of a haiku:
"The piercing chill I feel:
my dead wife's comb, in our bedroom,
under my heel..."
Taniguchi Buson
And this picture of w needs no captioning..
Jeebus, he looks completely smashed. How much Wild Turkey was in that glass?
flory - I'm sorry about being a quantum singularity sucking up all your time. Skipping the first few casts might be a good idea!
RMJ - Bush said something about Yalta? If anybody has a linky, I'd appreciate it. Elsewise I'll go see if it's up on the WH site...
My apologies if I offended the purists.
(in a spluttering rage)
You... you... you...
(red-faced, shaking fist, hoping righteous fury impresses, as have not actually yet read thread to know what is going on)
All i can say for Stroganoff a la NTodd is that it smells positively divine. That's only because we haven't eaten it yet, of course.
um... sorry, but not the vid.
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Are you sure you don't want to shoot some pool or throw some darts?
NYMary,
I did have a blast hanging with you as well.
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Dammit, I am 20 minutes behind again (must stop trying to read all the threadly goodness)
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Now you come back, NTodd, great. You're not all that, although I wouldn't kick you out of bed.
Back to topics that really matter, what are you all watching tonight? I'm torn between Branaugh's Henry V and Hedwig.
Both fine films! I think I would lean towards Hedwig, but I guess it depends on whether you're more in the mood for Shakespeare or music. The songs in Hedwig are awesome, BTW.
Besides Toby being a putz, what have I missed?
NTodd
In addition to being a putz, the consensus seems to be that he's less than attractive, somewhat intellectually challenged, and a bit lacking in friends.
So, he's ugly, stupid, and nobody likes him. You haven't missed much.
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"So, he's ugly, stupid, and nobody likes him. You haven't missed much."
The best things in life never change.
RMJ - Bush said something about Yalta? If anybody has a linky, I'd appreciate it. Elsewise I'll go see if it's up on the WH site...
Try Gilliard...
Been away from the party for
a while....
anything cool happen while I was gone?
Sallyh - not unfair at all. The truth hurts. Tell her I'll take her out for ice cream later.
Is Hedwig the one complaining about the angry inch after the botched sex-change operation?
NYMary:
Rosie's getting more adorable by the day.
And MR. NTodd - don't you owe us some belated Samblogging?
Heh, Eli. A friend recently gave me the Hedwig soundtrack. Too cool.
Larry, yes.
Mar, I think I have well over half the soundtrack on my iPod.
steve simels
The planet now knows you went AOL.
Other than that not much.
Are you sure you don't want to shoot some pool or throw some darts?
i don't know what's wrong with me, but that place always creeped me out! hahaha! i'm not much of a hipster. i mean, i'm cool, but... not a hipster.
Eli - thx. I'll check it out.
have seen the same reference around. Fun it is like Pinky and the Brain are having a tiff. I think Bush is pinky. Mind you I am only slightly familiar with the series so I may be off a bit.
Oh, no, EkC, you're not off at all. Boosh is . I am in eternal horror of that schmuck going on the word stage and embarrassing us all over the place. He has no idea or concept of what he says or does.
NTodd--I also informed her that it's not always about her, which, as an only child, had to hurt in the worst possible way.
Got oil?
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steve simels ... Thought you were going to see your mommy?
Oooooo, steve!!!!
In yesterday's mail: three copies of New York Rocker, from 1976. An amusing feature on an improbably fresh-faced Ramones entering the studio FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME!! So cool! Plus, some weird CD from a band, drummer name of Glen Robert Allen. That mean anything to you?
Just started listening to the new NIN album. First song sounds kinda like, um, Joe Jackson...
anything cool happen while I was gone?
sallyh is cooking. RMJ is retiring to bedlam. NTodd has something going with Randy. Watertiger is the caption queen.
Oh yeah - and Toby is stupid and ugly and has no friends.
steve simels
The planet now knows you went AOL.
Other than that not much.
oh man! i had forgotten! hahahah!
Steve Simels--not sure anything cool happened, but I did make Stroganoff a la NTodd and honey whole wheat casserole bread.
And wish Mother Simels the very best Mother's Day.
I realize that prophylactics aren't much in favor with rightwing zanoids, but before they're tempted to cite chimpy as a righteous defender of the oppressed, I'd like to say:
Nuzzle the might Clenis™!
"Through President Clinton's initiative, on April 30, 1994 Latvia and Russia signed a troop withdrawal agreement. Russia withdrew its troops by August 31, 1994, and will maintain several hundred technical specialists to staff an OSCE-monitored phased-array ABM radar station at Skrunda until the facility is dismantled no later than 1999."
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Stupid tags.
Thanks for changing my picture on your site, NTodd. I figured these effete yankee liberals would find a picture of me in my "Hee Haw" overalls more appropriate to their prejudices.
Eli: i listened to the NIN album online the other day. it was being streamed. the quality sucked, but i was rather surprised at where he went musically. i'm such a big NIN dork.
RMJ:
The man doesn't understand that the US isn't being showered with rosepetals in Iraq. Don't ask for miracles.
flory - I posted a pic of Sam last night! And once again, the boy's outside, so no new pic today, but I'll see what I can do.
As for Bush and Yalta: yowsa, the guy is dumb.
EkCenTriK
I will take the visits by black heli's into consideration, but unfortunately this is not the only example of surgical precision, that I have had the "pleasure" to examine, unless I have been "visited" for nigh on 15 years, and the timing of the first was only coincidental to the arrival of the first cat.
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Eli: i listened to the NIN album online the other day. it was being streamed. the quality sucked, but i was rather surprised at where he went musically. i'm such a big NIN dork.
It's got the same industrial fuzz in the background, but the tunes themselves do seem a bit different...
I also informed her that it's not always about her, which, as an only child, had to hurt in the worst possible way.
Okay, THAT was unfair. No, wait, it's always about ME, so I guess it was perfectly fair. Nevermind.
I'd assumed this as already a topic of discussion.
It prolly was and I missed it. I haven't read the thread because I'm sleepy and lazy. Thanks for the cite.
Me, I'm watching "Garfield: The Movie", which some asshat at Cinemax scheduling thought belonged in the Saturday night 10:00 p.m. time slot.
Okay, I'm lying. I'm watching "The Shining". Movie still scares the bejesus out of me.
I don't think Bush even believes history is useful, and he's certainly made no effort to learn any.
In yesterday's mail: three copies of New York Rocker, from 1976. An amusing feature on an improbably fresh-faced Ramones entering the studio FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME!! So cool! Plus, some weird CD from a band, drummer name of Glen Robert Allen. That mean anything to you?
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Whoa!
Gotta go look at this.....
Evidently, Bush thinks that no other nation knows what happens here, and that no Americans will ever hear what he says when he's out of the country.
Fuckin rhinestone cowboy.....
Does the man begin to understand that Russia sustained the greatest loss of life in that war, and broke the back of the German army? That if not for Russia, D-Day would have been impossible? Or a miserable failure, at best?
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Doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he said in regards to Yalta. On this one he is right.
This is one of the articles I found, NTodd
"Okay, THAT was unfair. No, wait, it's always about ME, so I guess it was perfectly fair. Nevermind."
hasn't Stef attempted to correct you regarding this?
flory,
Boosh doesn't live in reality. I'm sure that dumbass thinks he's a world wide hit. I bet he even thinks that his blathering is taken seriously in the world. Hahahahahahaha. Sheesh. Hahahaha.
Thanks for changing my picture on your site, NTodd. I figured these effete yankee liberals would find a picture of me in my "Hee Haw" overalls more appropriate to their prejudices.
No worries. 'course, I had some overalls just like yours.
Wow. This Brooks column is something. I don't think I've seen a bigger piece of shit in quite some time. I wonder if he stamped his feet while writing it. How much koolaid did he drink before sitting down to produce this? Asshole.
I'm watching "The Shining".
But "The Matrix: Reloaded" is on!
Presidents who have killed would naturally feel a part of the same club.
Me, I'm watching "Garfield: The Movie", which some asshat at Cinemax scheduling thought belonged in the Saturday night 10:00 p.m. time slot.
Okay, I'm lying. I'm watching "The Shining". Movie still scares the bejesus out of me.
Not nearly as much as the Garfield movie would, I bet.
Hi all. Long time no see. Huckabee the Arkansas Governor blows a harp for free republic get togethers.
Imagine how much freep heads 'sploded when he made an appearance with the Clenis(tm).
I'll be baaaaack on Monday. Much to discuss!
Toby and pals are fucking hilarious. Bush Administration, touting progressive taxation?
Do you even recognize yourselves anymore?
Arrrggg = Duhhhhh....
But "The Matrix: Reloaded" is on!
(slaps forehead)
Doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he said in regards to Yalta. On this one he is right.
No, no he's not. Let's stop with the historical revisionism. It's as stupid a debate as to whether we should've dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
hasn't Stef attempted to correct you regarding this?
Yes, thus far with little success.
oooh, and SciFi has an earthquake movie with I think a scientist babe. maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
Blind faith in bad leadership is NOT patriotism,it is foolishness
Toby and pals are fucking hilarious. Bush Administration, touting progressive taxation?
Do you even recognize yourselves anymore?
fourmorewars
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Yeah, but in 4-8 years they will declare it to be welfare because it's progressive taxation and want to get rid of it all together. Just watch.
I have now bumped the cat and time travelers and etc. down with some Miscellaneous Transport Components Photoblogging.
Rat guts have been moved down as well, though I fear that the new camera will make me a lazy blogger.
As I really don't have anything substantial to add about Trainwreck America™ I may branch out into Mac-mini hacks and metal lathe blogging,
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NYMary:
Glen Robert Allen?
You're kidding, right?
well, goodnight all! the cafe is closing, and i think i'm gonna go play some FFX-2. i meant to do work tonight, too. damn!
SciFi has an earthquake movie with I think a scientist babe. maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
I hope they discover that the earthquake is being caused by an Evil Yet Hot Science Babe so we'll see some Hot Science Babe on Hot Science Babe action. Oh wait, you said it's on SciFi, not Skinemax. Damn.
Does the man begin to understand that Russia sustained the greatest loss of life in that war, and broke the back of the German army? That if not for Russia, D-Day would have been impossible? Or a miserable failure, at best?
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Doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he said in regards to Yalta. On this one he is right.
Arrrggg
Huh?
This doesn't even make sense. Ignorance of history is no excuse.
oooh, and SciFi has an earthquake movie with I think a scientist babe. maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
I actually had that on while I puttered about, but the dialogue and acting was even beyond Mansquito-bad, so I left.
"oooh, and SciFi has an earthquake movie with I think a scientist babe. maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
Thersites"
At best, it would probably stop traffic and maybe a pacemaker or two.
I think when Boosh looked into Putin's *soul* he saw an exact relfection of his own supposed *soul* "It was dark, he was drunk, and it was delicious."
Ted Hitler.
Doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he said in regards to Yalta. On this one he is right.
Gotta agree with Arrgh here. Bush is right on this one.
Stalin was a top-tier tyrant, as bad as Hitler and Mao. Putin is a miserable little thug and a slime. It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
They're *mental" rosepetals, flory! Just ask Doug Feith!
The songs in Hedwig are awesome, BTW.
Eli
Yer durn tootin'! I've got all the mp3s on my hard drive. Initiating "Wicked Little Town" mode..
Always wondered what angry Incog's take on the transex/TV scene was, but always forget to ask him.
First song sounds kinda like, um, Joe Jackson...
Eli
Always thought Joe Jackson and Elvis Costello were the two lyrical gods of the 80s, but never been known for my cool points.
"Man makes a gun - man goes to war
Man can kill and man can drink
And man can take a whore
Kill all the blacks - kill all the reds
And if there’s war between the sexes
Then there’ll be no people left"
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"Blind faith in bad leadership is NOT patriotism,it is foolishness"
Blue Dragon speaks. And he's right.
Blind faith in anything is pretty insane.
Blind faith in bad leadership is NOT patriotism,it is foolishness
Blue Dragon
Word, Dragon.
"It was dark, he was drunk, and it was delicious."
Bigvic--winner of this hour's iced tea up the nose award!
At what point does Bush apologize for us assisting in winning the war? I take it in a year or two, he will be wanting to return those territories Germany ran rampant over back to Germany.
Beyond Mansquito-bad.
Wow.....how bad must that be.
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet. Gah. Didn't kill it, either.
Double gah; junebug in yer barefooted sneakers on a fine--till then anyway--June morning.
And one fine June evening, for reasons that will never be clear, a couple friends and I decided to do the haispray-and-Bic-lighter thing with a house covered in junebugs....never forget the smell.
BTW, has anyone noticed that Blue Dragon is hot?
steve,
I am dead serious. Gerry Devine & the Hi-Beams.
Fun fact: when I accidenally leave the flaps open on my nursing bra, Thers says, "You've got your hi-beams on."
Blind faith in anything is pretty insane.
And blind faith in blind faith is the absolute worst.
RMJ:
The man doesn't understand that the US isn't being showered with rosepetals in Iraq. Don't ask for miracles.
flory
The man doesn't even understand that he's destroyed our image as a "superpower."
And pretty soon, we'll be an ecomomic paper tiger, too, thanks to his idiotic "leadership."
I think even Bedlam is going to be bankrupt when I get there....
There goes Bob's claw
To readjust my merkin.
I am such workin'
to pull it out of my twat.
I bet he even thinks that his blathering is taken seriously in the world. Hahahahahahaha. Sheesh. Hahahaha.
Koizumi didn't squelch the new textbooks, then apologized, then re-insulted the Chinese, who then basically told their protestors to do whatever. Japan gets boycotted. We'll see where that goes.
Now 'Doh-bya says we should've kicked the Soviets' asses after WWII.
These people are REALLY out to lunch. Forget Canada, forget emigration at all... isn't there some other PLANET we can all go to?
This doesn't even make sense. Ignorance of history is no excuse.
Robert M. Jeffers
I think it just gave Bush a chance to slam FDR, and I think it was intended as much for the American audience as the Latvian audience.
Freakin hypocrite.
Moron.
Steve S--it's truly trite, tonight's SciFi feature.
I'm waiting for the one with 42 mummies in it.
Beyond Mansquito-bad.
Wow.....how bad must that be.
I hope it doesn't mean there are no scientist babes.
I have my standards.
"I'm not going to hurt you Wendy. I'm going to bash your brains in!"
fuck, he is so scary.
maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
Screw "Northwest Passage", I'm there.
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Stalin was a top-tier tyrant, as bad as Hitler and Mao. Putin is a miserable little thug and a slime. It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
Old Hat
Which has nothing to do with Yalta. Honestly, don't they teach history anymore?
I'm not going to get started...I am not going to get started....(where's my mouthguard? Gonna grind my teeth to powder in a minute. Stupid ferret never came back with the scotch.....)
BTW, has anyone noticed that Blue Dragon is hot?
Am I the only one who thinks he looks a lot like Roy Scheider?
I'm waiting for the one with 42 mummies in it.
Actually, I think it's a 42-*foot* mummy...
I actually had that on while I puttered about, but the dialogue and acting was even beyond Mansquito-bad, so I left.
Now I'm not allowed to watch it. We're watching the Devo DVD NYM got for Mother's Day.
We are very traditional around here.
I think it just gave Bush a chance to slam FDR, and I think it was intended as much for the American audience as the Latvian audience.
Freakin hypocrite.
Moron.
Diane
Everything Bush does is for American consumption.
But there's an entire world (literally) of experience that is not American, and ignorance of it is not only inexcusable, but dangerous.
Especially in a POTUS.
"he looks a lot like Roy Scheider?"
The wife said the same thing yesterday when I was scrolling through the pics.
NYMary:
I'm very confused...i,e, I've
been napping for a couple of
hours.
What have I missed vis a vis
my good pal Glen Bob and my
secret album?
It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
Old Hat
You mean, like, Hiroshima, Vietnam, Iraq? That kinda stuff?
The entire human race has skeletons, the difference is, WE are still pulling this crap on the rest.
This doesn't even make sense. Ignorance of history is no excuse.
Robert M. Jeffers
Well, that's our little Georgie in a nutshell, isn't it?
blind faith in blind faith is the absolute worst.
Beats blind faith in Blind Faith. Or any supergroup, for that matter.
Sally:
I'm rather looking for that
forty-one foot Mummy movie
myself.
I think it may be a metaphor.
I'm waiting for the one with 42 mummies in it.
I am sure that you meant "the one with the 42 foot mummy. Hoooboy that one is sure to be a stinker to rival all stinkers.
EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?
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"he looks a lot like Roy Scheider?"
The wife said the same thing yesterday when I was scrolling through the pics.
EkCenTriK
That 30 year old picture I sent hides the fact that now I look a lot like Rob Schneider.
Only with hair.
I'm waiting for the one with 42 mummies in it.
Actually, I think it's a 42-*foot* mummy...
I'm taking out my 42 foot mummy for brunch tomorrow. Mummy's Day, you know.
Man, they are going to run out of mimosas pretty damn quick...
Steve S--don't you EVER talk about Mother Simels that way...
Or I'll tell on you.
Behold the power of artistic genius!
You know, the sun is in your eyes
And hurricanes and rains
and black and cloudy skies.
You're running up and down that hill.
You turn it on and off at will.
There's nothing here to thrill
or bring you down.
And if you've got no other choice
You know you can follow my voice
through the dark turns and noise
of this wicked little town.
Oh Lady, luck has led you here
and they're so twisted up
they'll twist you up. I fear.
the pious, hateful and devout,
you're turning tricks til you're turned out,
the wind so cold it burns,
you're burning out and blowing round.
And if you've got no other choice
you know you can follow my voice
through the dark turns and noise
of this wicked little town.
The fates are vicious and they're cruel.
You learn too late you've used two wishes
like a fool
and then you're someone you are not,
and Junction City ain't the spot,
remember Mrs. Lot
and when she turned around.
And if you've got no other choice
You know you can follow my voice
through the dark turns and noise
of this wicked little town.
OK, no movie, work of art, or song can make heteros understand just what gay people go through in these times.
Like many of us, I think "what's wrong with trying to find love." It's a lonely world out there.
I know we can never really understand. But maybe this sort of thing can help. Being an Army guy, and having had a a lot of gay friends (both sexes), I've seen a glimpse of what being gay in a town like Junction City, KS can mean.
All boils down to this - given a choice, why in the Hell do so many people choose to be hateful?
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It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
Old Hat
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You mean, like, Hiroshima, Vietnam, Iraq? That kinda stuff?
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No. Stuff far worse than that. 10 million dead Ukranians, the crushing of Czeckoslovakia, the occupation of the Baltics and Eastern Europe for half a century, the building of walls to keep people from escaping their occupation. Trying to change the subject and excuse the USSR doesn't cut it, and only makes us fall into the image that people like Coulter try to paint of us.
EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?
With bells on.
Blind faith in anything is pretty insane.
And blind faith in blind faith is the absolute worst.
Eli
Thanks Hawkeye.
I am sure that you meant "the one with the 42 foot mummy. Hoooboy that one is sure to be a stinker to rival all stinkers.
reminds me of "mystery science theatre" where they may fun of all those movies that are so bad they are good.
"EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?"
Right next to Eli, and I'll bring a cake!
With bells on.
I knew you were easy.
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Putin is a miserable little thug and a slime. It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
We're not talking about Russia admitting it did shit. We're talking about Yalta. I think Bush just wants to piss on everthing FDR did.
What have I missed vis a vis
my good pal Glen Bob and my
secret album?
steve simels
Nothing. You've missed nothing at all. Just that I have it.
I also got Lynne Me Your Ears this week, and that supercool Zombies record. And the Get Up Twins, the last also for Mother's Day.
Some might think that Devo and the Get Up Kids are not a romantic Mother's Day gift. Not roses or jewelry or whatever. Bullshit. Romance means getting each other.
These people are REALLY out to lunch.
Dangerously so. I'm a little scared. No, I'm a lotta skeert!
I think it just gave Bush a chance to slam FDR, and I think it was intended as much for the American audience as the Latvian audience.
Freakin hypocrite.
Moron.
Diane | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 10:53 pm | #
Fucking LET him, and encourage him to pour it on.
Him and his buddies are so arrogant and cocky and above all stupid, they'll be twelve feet deep and looking up at all the angry voters who had been on their side, before they even start to think, 'Wha? Wha? WhadidIsay?'
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet. Gah. Didn't kill it, either.
Actually, I stepped on a camel cricket or cave cricket in my basement once and slid and fell on my ass. Gross! If you've seen them, you know they're full of water, hence the name "CAMEL" cricket. Gross!~!
Sallyh:
Shhhhhhhhhh.....
Or any supergroup, for that matter.
Thanks Thersites, now I have their remake of "Well Alright" stuck in my head. Guess it could be worse...
Maybe Clinton's bridge-building within the US is just a stepping-off point for world peace. Do you really think he'll succeed?
No. Stuff far worse than that. 10 million dead Ukranians...
The Ukes are my peeps. I don't give a shit if Putin apologizes for what Stalin did. I'm more concerned about what Bush is doing now in my name.
NTodd,
I think Shrub wants to piss on everything FDR did in the same idiotic way he undid everything Clinton did, helter skelter. Clinton/FDR bad, Bu$h good. What a disaster.
Evening Moonbats, still fighting the good fight against a bad president and worse movies? (apparently)
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all.
Hecate, no disrespect here, but children do grow up and must take responsibility for their own actions.
Maybe she was a bad mother. But I don't blame Babs (bitch that she is) for W's failings.
spooks always enjoy other spooks.
and boners always cling to other boners.
ghwb was a boner at yale.
and bill became a pg boner during his yale law days. it is one of the aspects of bonerdom that goes undiscussed. the conventional wisdom is that bonerhood is only for yalie undergrads. this is not true.
pg students at yale can also become boners.
i think that bill became a boner. that hilary became one of the first female boners [perhaps even the first].
reflecting on this, think on how the amerikan election process has been being controlled by the boner elite....
ghwbush....a boner
bill clinton...a boner
gwbush....a boner
al gore....not a boner
john kerry....a boner
dick'em cheney...was he a boner while at yale?
of course, beyond the boner linkage, there is the rockefeller linkage.
ghwbush....grandson of sam, a rockefeller front man.
bill clinton...if you were doing politics successfully in arkansas, you had to become a rockefeller acolyte...this state is a rockefeller pocket borough.
john kerry - major investor in heinz has long been rockefeller money.
dick'em cheney - from wyoming. another rockefeller pocket borough. like west virginia.
i assert that you cannot discuss amerikan politics without a detailed consideration of the rockefeller manipulations.
lastly, there are the intell services relationships...
ghwbush...long-term outfit asset.
bill clinton....outfit asset.
al gore....perhaps not, but his dad was.
john kerry....his dad was. and so was he. most of his activities in the brownwater navy were spookish. at times i think that his refusal to fight back against the swift boat assholes was the result of his reluctance to reveal his spook ties during his time in the nam.
on the other hand, he has always been a boner. whatever that lodge tells him to do, he will do. it is the nature of the contract. the lodge arranged his heinz widow morganatic marriage, his entry into ducal sybaritism. and he isn't going to be destroying his nights on frette sheets at multi-residences. john kerry=just another whore. a more reticent tom delay, i think.
EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?
I got backup copies of all the episodes, in case they're needed.
reminds me of "mystery science theatre" where they may fun of all those movies that are so bad they are good.
I'm still rooting for DIYMST3K with Mansquito at EschaCon.
Right next to Eli, and I'll bring a cake!
Double woohoo!!!
I'm more concerned about what Bush is doing now in my name.
Speaking of which, I'm going to whore today's podcast on Bush's radio address one more time for good measure. It could very well be the most important thing you ever listen to, until the fun begins on Cinemax.
Is it just me, or does the Haloscan timestamp more closely resemble reality?
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2. For many, all of their 401(k)s are in company stock, which might very well be very worthless and very fast.
Hello? Wake up, America.
FWIW,
The DVD versions of MST films allow you to watch the films without their commentary. Plus, we have episodes of "The Master" on DVD.
Steve S--admit it. Is Mother Simels an awesome cook or not?
Some say Mao killed up to 100 million. Who knows. Who knows anything?
Is this all just lies, all of it? Is Hiroshima a sham? Or the moon walks? We saw 911, no doubts there.
The world's connectivity is bringing the entire focus closer to us. Maybe we'll all come to terms with hate and work toward peace. It appears... that the big powers are the ones to point a finger to... NO ONE is exempt. No one.
That 30 year old picture I sent hides the fact that now I look a lot like Rob Schneider.
Balderdash! Is that really you in the clouds, RMJ? I thought it was a mag pic or something. I like the way you look.
This morning it was 15 minutes ahead of the game now 5. that is definately an inprovement.
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Trying to change the subject and excuse the USSR doesn't cut it, and only makes us fall into the image that people like Coulter try to paint of us.
I don't think that's what's going on, though -- the criticism of Bush here is of his focusing on Yalta as a great mistake & slam on FDR. What Bush is doing is a vast historical oversimplification, that's all. It has nothing to with excusing Stalin.
The DVD versions of MST films allow you to watch the films without their commentary
But.....but......
Why would you WANT to ?
Trying to change the subject and excuse the USSR doesn't cut it, and only makes us fall into the image that people like Coulter try to paint of us.
Linking those things to Yalta is changing the subject. A little history, since GWPDA isn't here to lecture you:
Germany had the mightiest army on the planet. If Hitler hadn't decided to invade Russia, he might still be in power today. We defeated Germany only because Russia destroyed much of that army. Even then, we came close to not destroying the German war machine.
By the time we got to Berlin, Russia had it. They were our ally, and had sustained greater losses and done more damage to Germany than any other force in the world. And we were going to tell them to get back to their borders, and leave everything as it had been before this mess started? Stalin would have pissed himself laughing and said: "Come and take it."
And we couldn't have.
That's the ignorance I'm talking about. Bush is trying to conflate Yalta and the Cold War. We had as much of a hand in creating that, as we did in anything. Stalin's butchery is vicious, but it wasn't our responsibility, nor could we have invaded Russia, or driven them back to their borders. Had we tried, all hell really would have broken loose.
And the U.S. would have spent a half a century recovering from it, just like Europe did. Only we wouldn't have had any victorious and rich ally to bail us out, like Europe did.
More likely she was trying to embarass Poppy and clue in Junior.
There is no way even Bill Clinton could charm that ancient evil.
And Bingo was his name-o!
Make no mistake, Babs meant it as snark.
DIYMST3K is eminently possible.
So NTodd, is the daughter going to hate my guts when she gets home tonight?
Double gah; junebug in yer barefooted sneakers on a fine--till then anyway--June morning.
Triple Gah; biting into a fine open-fire burger on a manly camping trip and realizing that a couple of junebugs are in the mix. Fortunately, multiple cheap beers helped ameliorate the effects, or I would have been heaving down by the lakeside.
P.S. - Atrios, give us new thread or I will post more