I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
frist
Ah, Barbara Bush. Nixon's favorite "hater."
I really am going now. Later!
third?
ahhh, the son she never had
wow! um, not that i'm too thrilled that clinton's running with the bushes, but... wow. i think it will be awfully hard for the repubs to go after hillary with all this happening.
not that it will matter; george will get us into a war with iran and north korea and they'll declare martial law, and we'll all be conscripted to go fight. 
What goes around, comes around.
Wait till Babs calls Hillary, "Daughter," and gets a haymaker in return.
pretty funny, though, since everyone said it was jeb that was favored over shrub. i guess it's true; even clinton is better than W, i guess.
but how the hell is barbara calling clinton "son"? that's pretty phenomenal. and the question that is on everyone's minds: will freeper heads explode now, and if not, how are they going to digest this turn of events?
the today show actually ran this clip and ol babs waasn't smiling when she recited the joke. it must be a dateline segment, there was a whole todo about how chummy they are.
it must be driving chimpy nuts that he has to reach out to clinton and in particular of areas of humanitarian concern -- which only goes to further establish clinton's reputation and his eventual appt as sec general of the u.n.
I'm hoping this works out to be the third act of a shakespearean tragedy.
I doubt freeper heads are going to explode, but Georgie's might. Calling Clinton "Son" has got to be rather infuriating.
N.B. I'm going to the Santa Fe/Taos area for several days later this month, as a reward for being a good family member and visiting elderly relatives in Oklahoma (this includes keeping my lip zipped about the aforementioned Gee Dubya). I have some ideas of what I'd like to do when I'm up there (such as visit the Georgia O'Keeffe museum) but if anyone has any suggestions of interesting, offbeat things to see or do up there, I'd love to hear it.
Let's see, Lewinsky was born in 1973, so was in her mid 20s when things heated up with Clinton. Jenna and not-Jenna were born in 1981, so is approaching her mid 20s. Boy, her going down on Clinton would really pop the cork of the freepers!
fuck the oatmeal lady, is she still at large after threatening the democratic presidential candidates
Fluffy,
The first thing I would do if given that opportunity is arrange a lunch date with WoodyGuthriesGuitar.
Worth remembering that Clinton's younger than Chimpy by a month. As for his friendship with Daddy Bush: well, he's on record as saying when you're an ex-Prez, there's a limited number of people you can talk to with similar experience.
Somehow I don't think Chimpy will be devoting his sixties to humanitarian causes: like his daddy, he'll be signed up by the Carlyle Group, though in a very hands-off capacity.
Let's see, Lewinsky was born in 1973, so was in her mid 20s when things heated up with Clinton. Jenna and not-Jenna were born in 1981, so is approaching her mid 20s. Boy, her going down on Clinton would really pop the cork of the freepers!
Hmm, maybe that was the whole point of the "son" thing - now he can't make a move on Jenna or Not-Jenna 'cuz it'd be incest...
Barbara is a fucking Bitch -- much more like W than HW. Just ask Franken.
Although after the last four years, anyone with half a brain would be ashamed of a womb that bore that creatin, W.
I think Clinton is probably as dismayed by the bitterness and partisanship that are rending our government as the rest of us are, and has been trying to do his bit to bridge the gulf. Admirable, but the fault lies entirely on the other side.
PS -- Clinton's apologia (see, for example, the opening of Clinton's library) for W makes me gag. Clinton is also a spoiled bitch more interested in being liked than helping the county.
Did anyone see the interview of clinton and poppy together?
They showed footage of clinton, poppy and chimpy together.
They asked clinton what was going on in the footage.
He said that chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
What a thing to brag about. He is such a fucking asshole.
ummm... haloscan's clocks are screwed up. i know it's eastern time, but it shouldn't be eastern time + 15 minutes...
I hane to go with bkny on this one.
Of coure, if anyone could turn the other cheek and make a friend of an otherwise enemy, it would be Clinton.
I assume that Bush is Felix and Clinton is Oscar.
He said that chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
has disdain for intellectual pursuits ever been so prevalent in our country? seriously. who else bragged about not being the brightest bulb in the room? I guess there was reagan, but who else?
He said that chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
What a thing to brag about. He is such a fucking asshole.
I loved that one pic of him trying to beat Clinton through the door.
Is there anyone more devoid of grace than Bush? And I don't mean the physical kind.
I'm hoping this works out to be the third act of a shakespearean tragedy.
underwhelm
Mmm.. Rove as Hamlet, Rice as Ophelia, Poppy as Polonius, Mehlman and Bartlett as Guildenstern and Rosencrantz, DeLay as Laertes, with a final appearance by Dean as Fortinbras.
Yeah, I could get behind that.
Of course, in my version Fortinbras whips it out and pees on Hamlet's head while laughing hysterically.
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Godammit, Bill is a smart sonofabitch.
eli -- that photo is one of the funniest and truest displays of bush's assholery ever. i'm laughing just thinking about it..
I loved that one pic of him trying to beat Clinton through the door.
...at the christening of Clinton's own library.
Apparently, one must be 35 years old to run for President of the United States.
But they don't specify mental age.
Of coure, if anyone could turn the other cheek and make a friend of an otherwise enemy, it would be Clinton.
Oh yeah, isn't that the truth. it boggles the mind what the country would be like if he had managed to keep his zipper zipped. i mean, the nutzoids out there hated him regardless of his foibles, and it's true that blowjobs are really and truly irrelevant to his job as president, and it was a witch hunt, but can you imagine his legacy if the wingnuts out there couldn't even say "blowjob!"? what could they possibly complain about? (i suppose they would still have blamed him for 9/11, but that really hasn't stuck for most people)
...at the christening of Clinton's own library.
Yeah, I thought it was something like that; talk about icing on the cake. Wasn't that also where he made the "submarine" crack? Absolutely no class at all...
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
Somehow, that does not surprise me.
and i'm talking only about wingnuts. i, for example, am not thrilled with Don't Ask Don't Tell, nor the Defense of Marriage Act, nor the Religious Freedom Act (i think that's what it's called). But on the whole, those are things the nutzoids like, so what could they complain about? COBRA?
Laura'comedy act? What's that?
Now showing to sold out performances, Bab's Bush... queen of the skewer.
Yeah, I thought it was something like that; talk about icing on the cake. Wasn't that also where he made the "submarine" crack? Absolutely no class at all...
And he goofed and made faces at the cameras during one of the speeches.
Doooo-fus.
Somehow I don't think Chimpy will be devoting his sixties to humanitarian causes: like his daddy, he'll be signed up by the Carlyle Group, though in a very hands-off capacity.
pseudonymous in nc
Oh, I dunno. I think maybe DynCorp might have something he could do.
Maybe CACI would be more to his tastes, though.
Anything using wires and wet tarps.
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
Somehow, that does not surprise me.
How many pages in My Pet Goat and The Very Hungry Caterpillar?
If Babs commented on it in public, it's likely she was trying to embarass Poppy and clue in Junior.
I doubt even Bubba could charm that ancient evil.
That's why they call him Slick Willie. And he is one slick sonuvabitch if he can charm that icy witch.
He said that chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
'The Pet Goat', on the other hand...
has disdain for intellectual pursuits ever been so prevalent in our country?
In politics? More prevalent than you think. James Bryce noted a century ago that the intellect of the first presidents was the exception, rather than the rule, and perhaps deliberately so.
PP - haloscan does that sometimes... I've decided to base my Powerball picks on the time differential plus the various different numbers Haloscan claims are the posts to a thread.
Can't be worse than any other system....
And he goofed and made faces at the cameras during one of the speeches.
Doooo-fus.
Sure is great having a preznit who acts like a petulant four-year-old.
USA! USA! USA!
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
"Are there pictures?"
Hey, reading's hard.
So's milking stallions. Why do s'poze he's skeered of horses?
BTW, I had a namestealer 2 threads back...I left after the marinade recipe.
I think it's time for us to ghost Bush's memoirs in advance. Back of an envelope job.
That's why they call him Slick Willie. And he is one slick sonuvabitch if he can charm that icy witch.
Oh God, please let that be *all* he did.
I need to scrub my brain now...
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
Odd, that, since Pickles always likes to go on about how her favorite book is Brothers Karamazov which, depending on your translation and edition hovers right around 800 odd pages. Perhaps that's short enough. Or perhaps, having married into the family, she doesn't count.
He's going to retire to the ranch and clear brush. It's hard work.
Eli:
ummm... UN blog. there is one, sponsored by the UN foundation, though apparently not necessarily representing the UN. (Its blog roll lists Eschaton!) it is www.undispatch.com.
however, i think there is one at the UN. i will do more research...gimme a few.
Oh, I dunno. I think maybe DynCorp might have something he could do.
Maybe CACI would be more to his tastes, though.
Anything using wires and wet tarps.
I'm hoping for a freak electrical storm while he's clearing brush.
ick. undispatch also blogrolls instapundit and powerline. *gack*
huh. just noticed that the story is from the "Chronic." (were that it were so!) i'm surprised that atrios found my hometown newspaper. though one of its staff writers' columnn got very favorable reviews on the official UN blog; something about debt forgiveness being good. (and right about now, I'm sure our country would like a little debt forgiveness, eh?)
AAAARRRRRRRRRGH!
Speaking of petulant 4 year-olds...
AAAARRRRRGGH!
speaking of petulant 4 year-olds...
Rorschach--you mean those slugs I've been salting on my walkway were once Republicans? You just made my day!
Barbara,
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all. You totally fucked up the most important job any human ever gets -- raising children. I mean, you completely screwed it up and failed. And now all of us are paying the price. This is why NO ONE should have children that they aren't both ready for and prepared to raise correctly. You are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again. You clearly need some time. Bitch.
(there's a UN blog?)
fuck you haloscan...
this is just a test.
Pickles always likes to go on about how her favorite book is Brothers Karamazov
she must have hollowed it out and hid herstash in there, cuz i know they never translated Dostoyevsky into dip-shitish
watertiger, the heat alone should knock him off - any damn fool who goes out in the the midday Texas sun to 'clear brush' is just askng for heat stroke.
If Babs comes back as a slug, Liddy Dole will come back as a dung beetle.
Rorschach--you're telling me that all those slugs I've been salting on my walkway were once Republicans? You just made my day!
rorschach,
I'll salt that motherfucker, first chance I get. He'll crawl into my saucer of beer and then......
NOT SUPRISED THAT TRAILOR TRASH BILL WANTS TO SUCK UP TO HIS BETTORS PLUS HE PROBLY THINKS IF HE BROWNOSES ENUOGH THEYLL GO EASY ON LADY MACBILL WHEN HE RUNS FOR FIRST HUSBAND IN 08 HA HA HA LIKE THATS REALY GOING TO HAPPEN GET A CLUE BILL YOUVE ALREDY EMBARASSED YOURSELF ENUOGH DONT YOU THINK?
Clinton's got to be a better son than Georgie ever was.
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all. You totally fucked up the most important job any human ever gets -- raising children. I mean, you completely screwed it up and failed. And now all of us are paying the price. This is why NO ONE should have children that they aren't both ready for and prepared to raise correctly. You are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again. You clearly need some time. Bitch.
As my friends and I like to say: ARCHIVED!
If Babs commented on it in public, I doubt even Bubba charmed her.
More likely she was trying to embarass Poppy and clue in Junior.
There is no way even Bill Clinton could charm that ancient evil.
Note: I did not say witch or imply any relation, Hecate!
Actually, a Lovecraftian Old One fits her much better.
Also forgive possible duplicate posts- HaloScan is glitchy tonight.
haloscan is completely wigging out. i just posted and it appears way the fuck upthread.
what the hell? where'd my posts go?
Oh God, please let that be *all* he did.
I need to scrub my brain now...
*gack*
ouch, that imagery hurts. oh man. agggggggghhhhhhhhhhh! the more i try to stop thinking about that, the worse it gets! ggggggggaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!
it did it again! fuck you haloscan!!!
oh haloscan, thou art an ass.
I think that the coronary surgery loosened up some old chunks of McRib, sent the pieces banging into the Big Dog's brain and has fucked up some of Clinton's higher functions. Satan's family does not serve pie ala mode to the enemy for free.
haloscan is completely wigging out. i just posted and it appears way the fuck upthread.
Haloscan appears to be trying to fix the timestamp in their usual inimitably graceful fashion...
In politics? More prevalent than you think. James Bryce noted a century ago that the intellect of the first presidents was the exception, rather than the rule, and perhaps deliberately so.
huh. i kinda thought that might be the case, but i didn't know that someone had already looked at it. I'll have to look at this Bryce fellow.
right. so my post replying to eli's question about a UN blog appears before he asks it. time travel rawks!
And he is one slick sonuvabitch if he can charm that icy witch.
SJS,
You have earned today's Hecate rant. Please do not use my religion as a slur; I don't appreciate it. And do not be surprised if you bite into something unpleasant tomorrow. Just sayin'
ou are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again.
Reminds me of a short story I wrote once, about reincarnation...
The last paragraph springs to mind:
"The next time he came back, as a slug, he didn't last so long. He forgot about the salt thing."
Okay, Haloscan should be just about caught up with itself now, I think...
Huzzah!
Reality factor of 1 to 1. We have normality.
Well, as near as it gets, anyway...
scan o' hell.
anyway, as I was saying...
i'm wondering with chimpy apologizing for fdr's yalta agreement, will he be making an apology on behalf of his grandpappy for bankrolling hitler?
what are the chances it will come up on tomorrow's a.m. chatfest.
I'm sure that Dubya likes to imagine that Poppy isn't his real daddy. And Poppy probably likes to imagine it too.
Tocqueville, despite those things he admired about America, also talked about how Democracy would inexorably and inevitably give rise to mediocrities.
anyway, as I was saying...
Something about being all petulant and pouty, I think. And tight clothing.
sorry, but it's obligatory...
*pukes yarn*
I'm sure that Dubya likes to imagine that Poppy isn't his real daddy. And Poppy probably likes to imagine it too.
Probably not nearly as much as he likes to imagine that Bar isn't his real wife...
nice try, Eli.
can we say "Doooooo-fus", boys and girls?
I knew you could.
sorry, but it's obligatory...
*pukes yarn*
I think thread would be more apropos here, however...
let's see. there's that www.undispatch.com site, there's the UN news center: http://www.un.org/News/, and i'm still looking. i swear to god i found one.
89th?
Just finished dinner.
can we say "Doooooo-fus", boys and girls?
"I drew it all by myself!"
Fluffy - get WGG to take you to Blakes Lota-Burger and eat a Lota-Burger with green chile. Make this the last thing you do before getting on the plane.
Now. Just before you go to Blake's, stop at the local stop and rob and buy a box of heavy duty ziploc bags. Pull out several and put them in your handbag. When you get to Blake's, you will be ordering an additional FIVE Lota-Burgers with green chile. Each one you will put into a ziploc bag, and then into your suitcase. When you arrive at Sky Harbor, I can then meet you at the south curb (look for the big yellow Cherokee) and get the takeout order (recompensing you of course) and then either drive you home, or whatever you like.
Oh, and you should also make sure to eat at the Pink Adobe (shrimp remoulade is awfully good) in Santa Fe. For fun, take a quick A-bomb tour - the bridge where secrets were sold, and the store front where Los Alamos mail actually went, that kind of thing....
Okay?
hahahaha...now dance my monkeys
and for those who got all confoosed by haloscan's poor sense of timing, I give you the petulant 4 year-old...
thankfully, not in 3-D.
GWPDA's serious 'bout those Lota-Burgers...
And do not be surprised if you bite into something unpleasant tomorrow. Just sayin'
Hecate
I bring this up in completely fanboy mode:
Woo hoo witchy woman she got
The moon in her eye
*sigh*
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Poppy's thinking:
"Gee, I wish MY son was more like you."
Smart, hardworking, sober.....
Poppy's thinking:
Smart, hardworking, sober.....
...won't be known as the President who yanked a horse's crank.."
Clinton is also a spoiled bitch more interested in being liked than helping the county.
Al Gore Invented the Internet!
Oh, get off Bill's back!
I think thread would be more apropos here, however...
hahahahahahaha! excellent!
Pickles always likes to go on about how her favorite book is Brothers Karamazov
she must have hollowed it out and hid herstash in there, cuz i know they never translated Dostoyevsky into dip-shitish
My take has always been that she must read it as a simple Christian Conservative narrative (and Dostoyevsky was, of course, a Christian conservative -- just infinitely more complex and self-doubting than the ones we have today) and removed from it (that is utterly missed) any hint of the complexity which makes it one of the greatest novels ever written. She sees the basic Christian love = good, rationality = leads to no good part and misses the struggle and wanderings and questionings along the way.
I highly recommend to anyone here who hasn't seen it Tony Kushner's one act play riffing on her admiration for Brothers K in which Kushner makes her confront the ghosts of dead Iraqi children. Really fucking good, IMHO. Called Only We Who Guard the Mystery Shall Be Unhappy and still up at The Nation, where it was originally, I think, published.
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
Chimpy, on the other hand.....
GWPDA's serious 'bout those Lota-Burgers...
watertiger - Damn straight. Make that six? Pleeeeeeaaaaassssseeeee, please, please, please, I'll drive you out to Mesa, I promise, please........
Didn't Kitty Kelly say at the Nat'l Press Club that Barb didn't like W because of his obnoxious behavior?
Will always be grateful to Bill for turning me on to 3 authors who have given me many pleasant hours: David Baldacci, Richard North Patterson and John Lescroart.
...won't be known as the President who yanked a horse's crank.."
ooooooooooooooh! SNAP! 
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
I think he also did have some reverence for the office, and the concept of public service. Not saying he necessarily acted accordingly, but at least he didn't act like he just won a reality show or something.
chimpy, when asked if he'd read clinton's book, said, "in our family, we don't do 900 page books."
He should have told "You don't speak for the rest of us!"
I've heard (and correct me if I am wrong) that is not the case with the rest of the family.
That's why Poppy likes Clinton. He can ask Bill if he's read any good books lately and Bill can honestly tell him that he has.
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
Poppy built a hugely successful Houston drilling company in the early sixties. Poppy has ten times the brains that junior will ever have.
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
Isn't it sad that i would take poppy over shrub any day? at least that guy knew to raise taxes. and to not invade baghdad.
GWPda,,
i planted tarragon for you today. Momma bunny and baby bunny observed me with interest, so we'll have to see if they leave any for you. I've been in socal twice in the last moon without once getting an inanout burger. And I want one, bad!
Poppy also resigned from the NRA, and never really warmed to the fundies. Plus Babs kept him straight on abortion.
"Maaaaaaaah!
Dad likes Bill and Jeb best!"
Of course, all these reasons that we list for Poppy being as bad as W. are precisely the reasons he didn't get re-elected...
poppy also correctly identified "voodoo economics"
I wasn't crazy about Bush I's presidency, but one thing he isn't is dumb.
Isn't it sad that i would take poppy over shrub any day? at least that guy knew to raise taxes. and to not invade baghdad.
PoppieProng
He told that asshole not to invade Iraq, but Chimpy wouldn't even listen to his own dad!
well, after half an hour of searching, i have to admit defeat. i found a website many moons ago doing a search on the UN. i got a blog. maybe it was www.undispatch.com, which i guess is not official. but i don't remember it looking like that. i wish i could remember what it was that i was searching for. hmmm.
oh well...
Hecate, sometimes we really have to work at making our dreams come true. Thus, Fluffy, I point out that the closest Blake's to the Abq Airport is found at 6301 GIBSON SE
ALBUQUERQUE NM 87108
262-2438
and just a straight Lota-Burger is fine, double meat is excessive.
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaseeeeeeeeeeeee, oh please, please, please, please. please.........
Barbara,
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all. You totally fucked up the most important job any human ever gets -- raising children. I mean, you completely screwed it up and failed. And now all of us are paying the price. This is why NO ONE should have children that they aren't both ready for and prepared to raise correctly. You are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again. You clearly need some time. Bitch.
Hecate
Fucking awesome.
Don't forget Souter, think where we would be today without Souter on the SC.
He told that asshole not to invade Iraq, but Chimpy wouldn't even listen to his own dad!
yeah, because he has a bigger, cloudier "father" who talks to him in his head.
at least that guy knew to raise taxes. and to not invade baghdad.
PoppieProng
Bush I: "We must defeat Saddam!"
Powell: "Going into Baghdad would involve us in a mess that our Armed Forces can't handle."
Bush I: "Well, OK, then. Crap!"
Powell: "Thank you, Sir. You won't regret it."
[years pass]
Bush II: "We must defeat Saddam!"
Powell: "Going into Baghdad would involve us in a mess that our Armed Forces can't handle."
Bush I: "Man, I sure hate not bein' able to get them last few tater chips out o' the bag! Heh, ain't Condi lookin' sweet? I'm puttin' her in charge!"
Powell: "Ummm, whatever Sir. Man, do I regret this."
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With all this talk of Poppy and Dubya I am reminded of that classic SNL skit with Dana Carvey where Sr. and Jr. were on the hunting trip and Sr. was contemplating shooting Jr. but stopped at the last minute. I wonder just how close to truth that skit rang?
Souter. Excellent.
Hi again everyone. What did I miss?
Hecate - you inspired me. I replanted my container garden today and added tarragon to the herb bed. Mmmmm...now I need tarragon recipes.
GWPDA,
There was an inanout burger in San Diego and I was going to ask the nice lady driving the sedan to stop there, but they weren't open at ten o'clock in the am, which is when I was on the way to to airport. And I was in LA last week and was *this close* to renting a car, driving out towards Pasadena and buying one, but I went out with clients and ate sushi instead. But the next time I'm on the west coast, I'm getting an inandout burger if it's the last thing I do.
And thank you Hecate for the tarragon. Say, if the bunnies get it all, then your next step may involve a nice lapin en sauce estragon moutard. Peut etre?
With all this talk of Poppy and Dubya I am reminded of that classic SNL skit with Dana Carvey where Sr. and Jr. were on the hunting trip and Sr. was contemplating shooting Jr. but stopped at the last minute. I wonder just how close to truth that skit rang?
God, I loved that. I almost mentioned it myself...
Don't forget Souter, think where we would be today without Souter on the SC.
chris/tx |
so true, so true. you know, my parents liked poppy in 1980, when he was a moderate. they weren't thrilled with his pedigree or his role with the CIA, but they liked him better than reagan, and sadly carter wasn't cutting it for them as a president. but they blanched at him joining reagan and getting tainted by the uber-conservative factions of the republican party. now they wish they had him back, if not clinton. hell, poppy looks liberal compared to chimpy mcchump.
flory,
GWPDA has the best recipe for turkey tarragon salad ever. I've never grown it before, but I'm growing it for GWPDA as an experiment this year. Get GWPDA to give you her recipe; it's amazing.
GWPDA - You do know, of course, that Lota-Burger is owned by Pete Domenici?
Psyche! Geez, I'm evil..
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Powell: "Ummm, whatever Sir. Man, do I regret this."
i would add: "i'm so going to hell for this."
or at the very least: "did i do something in a previous life to deserve this?"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...5/7/142130/
7255
this is some great ammo, the dems better get a spine and use it.
The numbers below are for 2000-2004.
The Financial markets
S&P 500 -15%
NASDAQ -36%
Dow Jones -5.3%
Consumer income and expenses and Standard of Living
Price of a Gallon of Gas +46%
Real Value of the Minimum Wage -7%
Median Household Income -4%
Average cost of 4-year public college +24%
Poverty Rate +11%
Americans filing for Bankruptcy +33%
Annual Increase in Prescription Drug Prices (from 4.1% t0 6.8%) +68%
Number of Americans without Health insurance +18%
Federal Finances
Federal Debt +39%
Monthly Trade Deficit +75%
Annual Trade Deficit +53%
The dollar
Dollar versus Euro -30%
Dollar versus Yen -11%
Consumer Debt
Home Mortgage Borrowing +100%
Total Outstanding Consumer Debt +28%
Household Debt as a Percentage of Assets: 20%
Household Debt as a Percentage of GDP +21%
kick the friggin repugs out of office
I immediately emailed the news of Poppy and Clinton's new found friendship to all on my short list of die-hard Republican G. W. supporters who I know. What a great way to apply sandpaper. The internets are just great.
I'll have to look at this Bryce fellow.
Online: courtesy of the wingnuttish Liberty Fund, whose commitment to disseminating Hayek and other free-marketese is so great that it subsidises scholarly paperback editions of Adam Smith, David Hume et al. I appreciated the irony as a graduate student.
The relevant chapters are Why Great Men Are Not Chosen Presidents and Why the Best Men Do Not Go Into Politics.
Moose - not unless he's changed his name recently.
"The father-and-son team of Ronald C. Rule and Brian Rule is the new owner of the 75-restaurant Blake's Lotaburger chain based in Albuquerque.
Until 1999, Ronald Rule was the president, CEO and chairman of the board of United States Playing Card until he was ousted during a dispute between members of the board of directors."
Hi again everyone. What did I miss?
ummmm... some skanking on W, some reminiscing on poppy's relative virtues, some gross imagery of Clinton givin' it to the old battleaxe, and me failing to find a UN blog that I swear I saw at some point. oh, that and haloscan going all time crazy and messing up the order of the posts with me puking thread. 
GWPda,,
i planted tarragon for you today. Momma bunny and baby bunny observed me with interest, so we'll have to see if they leave any for you. I've been in socal twice in the last moon without once getting an inanout burger. And I want one, bad!
Hecate
Two things:
1. My late father always planted two gardens: one for us, one for the rabbits.
2. I had an InandOut for lunch (double-double)
hell, poppy looks liberal compared to chimpy mcchump.
All the republicans that started in politics before Reagan's presidency look better to me now. That asshole Reagan took the party so far to the right I don't even recognize it today compared to then.
PoppieProng - You in Houston also?
Aw, no, GWPDA, I can't eat them. First, they're way faster than I am and, second, they're my friends. You can't eat your friends. I had a nice chat with Momma today and told her she could eat all the hostas she wants if she leaves the tarragon and mint alone. She gave me one of "those" looks and took a bite of my parsley, but there's enough of that to share.
OT: dept of fuckin' [uncontrollable] negrahs
This is hilarious, from the "Soundbites" section of the FAIR extra newsletter (not the magazine):
"
Attributed to Kevin O'Brien, who ran 13 TV stations for the Meredith Corporation before being fired for blatant and persistant racism--
"We've got to quit hiring all these black people...You shouldn't hire old black guys. They don't listen, and they have attitudes and you can't control them."
"
pseudonymous in nc: hey that's great! thanks.
On behalf of Hecate, I've decided that I don't like Diane of Pasadena. Nothing personal, but there it is.
Diane,
I am so jealous. Whereabouts are you?
GWPDA:
Rumor has it you have a killer turkey tarragon salad recipe. I'll have tarragon in need of a reason for being soon......half of its your's if Hecate's bunnies get hers.
BushWorld doesn't do smart/dumb. BushWorld does winners/losers, rich/poor, etc.
I'm afraid our friend the Big Dog has been co-opted by the dark forces. Has he mentioned the war lately?
We're seriously fucked, folks. We've got nobody with any power on our side.
...Otherwise... I'm drinking vodka tonics, thinking of John Lennon and batting at the moon. Hope you're all well.
Peace.
Okay, I'm watching Mets-Brewers on my laptop, and one of the Brewers announcers just said that Pedro Martinez struck out the side on *8* pitches.
WTF???
PoppieProng - You in Houston also? i am indeed!
Hecate,
In Pasadena, about a mile from the InandOut on Foothill Blvd.
btw, Hecate, if you're still around: nice smackdown on the ol' Battleaxe.
Somehow I don't think Chimpy will be devoting his sixties to humanitarian causes: like his daddy, he'll be signed up by the Carlyle Group, though in a very hands-off capacity.
pseudonymous in nc
Carlyle group for Chimpy? I don't think so. This story was widely reported last year. From Salon:
In a column posted yesterday on Salon.com, Joe Conason writes: "Preferring to avoid public scrutiny for obvious reasons, executives at the Carlyle Group usually say nothing about their firm's connections with the Bush dynasty. But last April 23, Carlyle managing director David Rubenstein spoke quite frankly about the comfy sinecure he provided to George W. Bush more than a decade ago -- and how useless Bush turned out to be. Whether he knew it or not, Rubenstein's remarks to the Los Angeles County Employees Retirement Association were recorded."
Rubenstein said, "We put [Bush] on the board and [he] spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.
Rubenstein continued: "He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board. And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things."
All the republicans that started in politics before Reagan's presidency look better to me now. That asshole Reagan took the party so far to the right I don't even recognize it today compared to then.
PoppieProng - You in Houston also?
chris/tx
you ask any republican why they are republican and they will invariably reply, that I am for smaller government and less taxes. or that they don't trust the dems with money. bush and reagan have had the biggest budgets, biggest deficits, why does anyone believe them? any repug i talk to just spits out talking pints when asked a question, it is rather pathetic.
hecate, of course your around... what's wrong with me. that's why i shouldnt try to do this and work-work at the same time.
as for pedro martinez striking the side out with 8 pitches, it's his new pitch: the haloscan ball.
GWPDA,
In my defense, I have had a lotaburger in Albuquerque and they actually are a little better than the InandOut
hell, poppy looks liberal compared to chimpy mcchump.
PoppieProng
Please don't kill me, but back in the 80 primaries, I campaigned for Bush. As a moderate republican, I took the party line that Reagan was a dangerous, idiotic goofball. A line of thought going back to 68 (note to trolls: want to make your heads explode? Dig what Nixon had to say about Reagan back in the day).
Bush gets tapped as VP candidate, and all of a sudden he's making public appearances blubbering about how much he loves himself some capitalist Jesus. The Republican Party and I parted ways immediately, and I voted for Anderson.
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Aw, no, GWPDA, I can't eat them. First, they're way faster than I am and, second, they're my friends. You can't eat your friends.
Well, okay. If those are the rules. I live with Arthur and while I wouldn't eat him, sharing isn't always the way the household works.
flory, it's not actually my recipe, but that of a local seriously gourmet deli. It is just monstrously good - adjust the bleu cheese according to your own requirements -
Duck and Decanter Turkey Salad
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all. You totally fucked up the most important job any human ever gets -- raising children. I mean, you completely screwed it up and failed. And now all of us are paying the price. This is why NO ONE should have children that they aren't both From one mother to another, ready for and prepared to raise correctly. You are a failure as a woman, a mother, a wife, a human being. When you die, take a looooooong time before you try this humanity thing again. You clearly need some time. Bitch.
Hecate
My daughter in Boston sent me such a great card that I cried.
Then my husband made me cry again when he told me what a great mother I am.
Barbara Bush, from one mother to another, you fucked up.
I'm better than you.
Although after the last four years, anyone with half a brain would be ashamed of a womb that bore that creati[o]n, W.
Why just blame the egg?
The sperm was just as loathsome, too. Probably more.
ecoast: ho. lee. shee. it. that's some impressive stuff. too bad none of these fuckers put country before party or money.
as for pedro martinez striking the side out with 8 pitches, it's his new pitch: the haloscan ball.
It's like a changeup, but instead of slowing down, it actually goes *backwards*.
And I just noticed - you use tarragon, instead of the thyme. Or in addition, whichever.
Diane,
You lucky duck; I love Pasadena. Love the Huntington, love the italian restaurant downtown that I can't think of the name of that makes the great meringue cookies, love all the craftsman bungalows, love old town, love the plaze of fountains, love that funky place that serves breakfast, love the mountains, love the race track, love the Ritz with its gardens of cactus and its pool, love the inandout burgers...
Moose Pudding: hell no, i don't hate you. i understand the appeal of a moderate republican. my folks are both from maine so they understand the tradition of a slightly left of center republican. they were just as stunned about bush I's transformation as you. they couldn't fathom it. that's why they voted for dukakis in '88.
Shit, this ain't surprising. Clinton's a politician's politician. I'm not a fan of most of his policies, which helped out no one but the status quo in the end, but the dude was personable as hell. I bet you a solid nickle if you made Limbaugh and Coulter room with Clinton for a weekend, they'd come out loving the dude (whether they admitted it or not is beside the question). He was like watching someone like Robbie Robertson play guitar: he's good, he knows he's good, he knows you know it, and that makes him even better.
Bush, on the other hand, comes off like a dick trying to be what Clinton is - that is, instantly beloved - but still comes off as a dick. Bush is Zaphod Beeblebrox. That irritating little shit in high school you let run around with you so you could fuck with him. Remember that guy? Well, he's running the free world now.
Oh, and the best burgers on the planet are at a little dive-y place called Kirk's in Palo Alto. Incredibly juicy, and you can get pineapple on 'em.
In my defense, I have had a lotaburger in Albuquerque and they actually are a little better than the InandOut
Well, there you are. The only thing that ever even came close was a Bob's Big Boy, served on a tin tray fixed to the driver's side window. And it didn't have any green chile.
It's like a changeup, but instead of slowing down, it actually goes *backwards*.
hahahahahahahahaha
george's doctor - You just described my friends that vote Republican. They talk about the party like it was around Nixon's time. It's like they are in a time warp and don't realize how much the party has left them over the last 25 years. I mentioned the erosion of church and state being pushed by Republicans to a group of them at a funeral recently, they looked at me like I was talking in tongues.
For tonight: NTodd's beef stroganoff and honey whole wheat casserole bread. Plenty for all who don't feel like cooking.
GWPDA, Irate Scholar
I'm planing to go out your way in July or Aguast and if I do I will get you a few. Do they freeze well?
I'll be driving.
Hecate,
Me too. I would add the Huntington Library and Gardens and the Norton Simon Museum to your list.
pie,
Your daughters are proof that you're a better mom than Barbara Bush.
My son is smart, kind, funny, and married to a wonderful kick=ass woman. They're coming over tomorrow to grill steaks for me. And, he turned me on to Atrios. How cool is that?
backslider, i think you nailed it. i would love to see what would happen if rush, hannity, coulter, et al actually met clinton. it would be like when people in cults get reprogrammed.
I have had a lotaburger in Albuquerque and they actually are a little better than the InandOut
Diane - 8:47 pm
a little better???
the green chile/cheese Blake's Lottaburger, wide and flat and a little mooshy, is nonpareil...
just sayin...
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Do they freeze well?
Oh they freeze admirably! Stick 'em in a cooler with a couple of those blue things, they'll be fine - but, but, remember, the Gallup Blake's Lota-Burger is only six hours from Phoenix, while the Deming Lota-Burger is only four....
I'm not a fan of most of his policies, which helped out no one but the status quo in the end
Well, can we get a second on that?
Won't be from me, darlin'.
kei & yuri,
I would be amazed if that cat had worked with enough older black gentlemen to even come close to being able to say that. Ah, me. Racism is extinct because we say it is, isn't that how it's supposed to work?
Oh, and the best burgers on the planet are at a little dive-y place called Kirk's in Palo Alto. Incredibly juicy, and you can get pineapple on 'em.
Indeed (though I've never done the Pineapple). Kirk's moved a couple years ago from the odd little building on California Ave. (which was recently knowcked down) to Town and Country Village; doesn't feel quite as dive-y. Still got great burgers though.
Woody, what's an ItsaBurger? How does it differ?
Eli:
And the Yankees are at the bottom of the AL East.
Go figure.
Barbara Bush, from one mother to another, you fucked up.
I'm better than you.
pie
I think Cinderella's stepmom ranks higher on the mothering scale.
GWPDA - muchas gracias. The recipe appears to call for thyme, not tarragon. Do you replace the thyme?
Clinton's got charisma, something they are incapable of because true charisma starts with a deep love of your fellow man.
I'm hoping this works out to be the third act of a shakespearean tragedy.
underwhelm
Pls. Don't give any column ideas to Modo, the Shakespearean scholar at the NYT.
Do you replace the thyme?
That's right. Perform a Haloscan on it.
I would be amazed if that cat had worked with enough older black gentlemen to even come close to being able to say that. Ah, me. Racism is extinct because we say it is, isn't that how it's supposed to work?
I wouldn't be surprised if he had negative experiences with a lot of black men, because he probably brought it out of them. "Boy, bring me a coffee!" (and probably much much worse) probably wore thin pretty quickly, I'm guessing.
"My son is smart, kind, funny, and married to a wonderful kick=ass woman. They're coming over tomorrow to grill steaks for me. And, he turned me on to Atrios. How cool is that?"
Hecate, we are so blessed. My daughter has been running around all day declaring, "Mommy, I love you, you're the best mom ever!"
And she cleaned bathrooms,did laundry and dragged in groceries to prove it.
"Oh, and the best burgers on the planet are at a little dive-y place called Kirk's in Palo Alto. Incredibly juicy, and you can get pineapple on 'em."
--Eli
Wrong. The best burgers in the whole wide world are found at Litton's off of Broadway in Knoxville, TN.
Grind their own meat.
Plus, the fries are out of this world.
I probably should say that despite my overall dislike of Clinton, I did think he did a decent job, for what it is, and I do think he genuinely gave a shit about people. The system, the very office, is so completely...not wrong, but still not quite right, I guess. You can only do so much, and the system seems to be gained to help some people more than some other group of people, even though that first group could stand to maybe wait a little longer than the second group.
But it's always been like that, and I don't know if there's much you can do about it beyond completely changing the system.
The single Lottabuger is 1/3 lb
the single Itsaburger is 1/4 lb...
otherwise indistinguishable...
i usually have the double meat/cheese/chile Itsa, cuz the bun's smaller but everything's similarly proportioned...except the chile, which is an add-on, and the same proportion no matter the size of the patty...
Thanks for the heads-up, sdf. Good to know if I ever get back for a visit.
Tigre: Pitching, pitching, and pitching. The hitting's down, but that might come around. The rotation was full of question marks, and pitching question marks tend to not resolve themselves in the Yankees' favor.
late to the party, let me just channel Muntz.
HA HA.
In other news...
David Brooks is a moron.
Over the past few weeks, the president has called their bluff. By embracing the progressive indexing of Social Security benefits, the president has asked us to make a shared sacrifice for the common good. He's asking middle- and upper-class folks to accept benefit cuts so there will be money for the people who are really facing poverty.
He has asked us to redistribute money down the income scale. Why should programs for children and families be strangled so Donald Trump can get bigger benefit checks?
"Me too. I would add the Huntington Library and Gardens and the Norton Simon Museum to your list."
Absolutely! We have a membership and go there at every opportunity. It's a magnificent place. And if you're going to be in the area, make advance rezes for the tearoom--it's really a wonderful lunch.
(and the bullpen sucks, too...)
But it's always been like that, and I don't know if there's much you can do about it beyond completely changing the system.
Backslider
Don'tcha know the Busheviks are trying to completely change the system.
David Brooks activates my temper. And it takes quite a lot to make my temper come to the surface.
And, he turned me on to Atrios. How cool is that?
Very cool.
Spread the word.
Coming right on the heels of Harry Reid's praising Poppy and dissing Dim Son (yeah, he "apologized" -- but the zing is what folks will remember), this is probably making The Insecure One excrete paving material.
By the way, this is my favorite part of the thread so far:
I'm hoping this works out to be the third act of a shakespearean tragedy.
underwhelm
Mmm.. Rove as Hamlet, Rice as Ophelia, Poppy as Polonius, Mehlman and Bartlett as Guildenstern and Rosencrantz, DeLay as Laertes, with a final appearance by Dean as Fortinbras.
Yeah, I could get behind that.
Of course, in my version Fortinbras whips it out and pees on Hamlet's head while laughing hysterically.
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Moose Pudding
YEAARRRRRRGHHHH!
Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of `mistaken identity'
Christina Lamb and Mohammad Shehzad Islamabad
THE capture of a supposed Al-Qaeda kingpin by Pakistani agents last week was hailed by President George W Bush as "a critical victory in the war on terror". According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists' third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as "among the flotsam and jetsam" of the organisation.
Eli:
and you can get pineapple on 'em.
But why would you want to?
David Brooks activates my temper. And it takes quite a lot to make my temper come to the surface.
It's the flimsy pretense of moderation that makes him so fucking infuriating.
But why would you want to?
Trust me. If they're juicy enough, it totally works.
I also came up with (thoroughly peeled) cucumber slices as a burger topping that works surprisingly well.
Moose - not unless he's changed his name recently.
GWPDA
Oh, GWPDA, I meant to put "just kidding" in there somewhere. Must be that self-destructive thing kicking in. 
that's why they voted for dukakis in '88.
PoppieProng
Thanks for the understanding. I took it that far, and even further. When I actually got into the government/ big business world and saw how useless most of the executive class was as far as actually producing anything, I got me some new religion. Swung as far left as the Counterpunch crowd, than back a little. Now I'm just one of those pesky "mainstream" progressives who thinks the DLC is a bunch of corporate sellouts.
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oh, man... i need to find a new cafe to do work at. one where the 16 year-olds working the counter dont have brand new Scion TCs or Mazda3s. That pisses me off. I got a $2000 Dodge shadow for my first car. Named it Hubert. I mean, fuck, I'm a lawyer and I can't afford a brand-new $17000 car. (shocking, ain't it? well, it comes with me refusing to kill myself working.)
I miss austin. I miss the flightpath, JP's Java Joint, Austin Java Co. (where i used to work)...
Fuck Houston.
Why would the President have a problem with his parents being friends with Clinton? I don't get it.
According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists' third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as "among the flotsam and jetsam" of the organisation.
Wasn't Jon Stewart ribbing Tom Ridge about how many "No. 3" guys we've captured?
Then, it's the double meat Itsa with chile for me. Fluffy? Did you hear?
Dreams, dreams. No, I haven't had the brakes on the trucka looked at, but I will.
"It's the flimsy pretense of moderation that makes him so fucking infuriating."
Eli
I think it's more his totally idiotic ideas, and his utterly pretentious delivery.
The fishwives say, we've got knives, there's an ocean out there, and no one will miss Bobo.
Do you replace the thyme?
That's right. Perform a Haloscan on it.
How twue, how twue...your answer appeared right before I posted my question.
I think it's more his totally idiotic ideas, and his utterly pretentious delivery.
But we *expect* that from right wing pundits. But Brooks pretends to be The Reasonable Voice Of The Middle, all the while with a heavy thumb on the right side of the scale.
I did think he did a decent job, for what it is, and I do think he genuinely gave a shit about people.
Well, what a great thing to say about a leader of a country.
Really.
What does it take for the a percentage of the American people to realize that a big-talking little man doesn't give a fuck what happens to them?
Sallyh,
That is so cool about your daughter. Raising kids is the hardest work in the world. But when you've done it right, nothing else is more rewarding. I was a single mom and my son went to Princeton on scholarship and then on to law school. He married a wonderful woman who is a prosecutor. We joke that she's the only one in the family who does "real" law. I love both of them so much. When I heard seven years ago, that I had breast cancer, the first thing I thought was, "Well, J. is through college and has a good head on his shoulders. He'll be ok." He's the best thing I've ever done.
Why would the President have a problem with his parents being friends with Clinton? I don't get it.
Being friends isn't so much the problem. It's him being another son, since W is already the least favorite.
Poppie Prong--when I worked at UCLA, if you compared the faculty lots vs. the student lots, guess which had more high end vehicles?
Eli,
I wouldn't be surprised. Everyone's like that. I myself can be quite a dick if you go out to rub me the wrong way. I must say, it was quite a surpise to move to an urban area, where white kids of a certain age gave older folks (of any color, but especially black) no sort of respect whatsoever. Political ideology was almost secondary to the college-age arrogance that most of us go through. Problem is, they never grew out of it. It still shocks me to hear that very certain tone of voice some folks I know use with the middle-aged black cat that sells Polish sausages outside the 40 Watt in Athens. And I'm the one who's supposed to be a knuckle-draggin', cousin-fuckin', sheet-wearin' redneck that can't say five words without "nigger" being three of them. But there's no racism problem in America, no siree!
Tom,
Yeah, but I'm talking about changing it in such a way that it'd actually help people enjoy life, rather than "Them that gots makes the rules and gets even more". The Bush people aren't trying to completely change the system; they're just making out like bandits on the already existing problems and, if possible, make it a little easier.
Hecate and GWPDA:
Dont forget that In-n-Out is owned by super-fundie christians...
I also came up with (thoroughly peeled) cucumber slices as a burger topping that works surprisingly well.
Eli, that's very close to the much beloved ring of green bell pepper used on hamburgers at Ike's Chili Parlor in Tulsa. Good taste, that.
Poppie, you miss the Austin Java Company? Harrumphh! The kids in there are a bunch of pierced-nipple ass-grabbers who may deign to notice you if it doesn't cut into their posing time.
Hecate--kudos to your son and daughter in law! They sound like fantastic people.
Randy and I had our hard times, what with her drug addiction and all, but somehow, we remained very close, and today, I am honored by her. She's smart, funny, compassionate, and hilarious. She's going to be a terrific nurse, which is her field of study.
"It's the flimsy pretense of moderation that makes him so fucking infuriating."
Eli
I think it's more his totally idiotic ideas, and his utterly pretentious delivery.
To me, its the unbelievable arrogance that lets him lecture about the real world while sitting in his Park Ave coop. How dare he - WTF does he know about working for a living?
David Brooks is a moron. "suffer for the greater good" or whatever the fuck he said? well, then, lets raise some fucking taxes to actually pay for things. GOD! I cannot wrap my head around intellectual dishonesty. it makes my eyes cross. the "progressive" indexing (i think it's another attempt at them stealing phrases to appeal to people) is simply Bush saying "well, since you don't want to go with private--i mean, personal--accounts, i'm going to destroy the whole things. suck it, bitches!"
Backslider, most white kids of a certain age have no respect for *anybody*. Actually, most *kids* of a certain age, come to think of it...
Over the past few weeks, the president has called their bluff.
Now where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah:
Democrats have good reason to be aghast at President Bush's new proposal for Social Security. Someone has finally called their bluff...
You know, it's one thing to have a guy on your staff who does nothing but retype his friends' press releases - when you've got two people doing it on the same fucking page, I think it's time for a little management meeting...
JSLB--I believe they're Mormons. i don't patronize them, which is a shame, because it's a delicious burger.
Same with Albertsons--the best quality groceries in the LA area, but the owners are Mormon.
Eli, that's very close to the much beloved ring of green bell pepper used on hamburgers at Ike's Chili Parlor in Tulsa. Good taste, that.
Mmm...
Poppie Prong--when I worked at UCLA, if you compared the faculty lots vs. the student lots, guess which had more high end vehicles?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
hell, it was the same at IU law. The students had better cars, on average, than the profs, and some of those profs had mercedes! (why the hell would anyone buy one is beyond me.)
Why would the President have a problem with his parents being friends with Clinton? I don't get it.
His parents are embarrassed because their son, who has never shown any initiative, was emasculated a long time ago.
Trolls can pretend otherwise.
georgie bush is a loser.
To me, its the unbelievable arrogance that lets him lecture about the real world while sitting in his Park Ave coop.
No, no, no. He doesn't sit in the coop; his wife does, and hatches their spawn.
Poppie--to be honest, my local Starbucks has a wonderful staff. Of course, we're a working class neighborhood.
Well, what a great thing to say about a leader of a country.
Yep. We all know that's a rare bird indeed. It never ceases to fail to amaze me to hear one of my historically minded friends to say how much s/he admires some king who conqured lands and made reforms for the peerage, and convieniantly forget the whole system was set up that most folks not only didn't get shit, they couldn't afford the smell. But then I think, "Hey, how many Jerry Lee Lewis records do you have, asshole?" and get over it.
Still. A leader that genuinely wants what's best for the people of his land, not what he thinks (or is told) is best for them. Ain't that a thing.
She's smart, funny, compassionate, and hilarious. She's going to be a terrific nurse, which is her field of study.
Oh, so when NTodd said they were studying last night - he meant they were playing doctor?
"No, no, no. He doesn't sit in the coop; his wife does, and hatches their spawn."
What? They let him reproduce?
(screams and runs)
Brooks pisses me off but I read
PoppieProng, I figure it's the nature of the banking industry at the moment. They'll offer to anyone on the basis of who is least likely to pay it back. My credit union just offered me a $35,000 loan for a new car - and I havent worked in two years.
Bush said the lessons of the past will not be forgotten as the United States tries to spread freedom in the Middle East.
"We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations, appeasing or excusing tyranny, and sacrificing freedom in the vain pursuit of stability," the president said. "We have learned our lesson; no one's liberty is expendable. In the long run, our security and true stability depend on the freedom of others."
Bush singled out the 1945 Yalta agreement signed by Roosevelt in a speech opening a four-day trip focused on Monday's celebration in Moscow of the 60th anniversary of Nazi Germany's defeat.
In recent days Bush has urged Russia to own up to its wartime past. It appeared he decided to do the same, himself, to set an example for
Vladimir Putin, the Russian president.
Try hard not to vomit.
Powell: "Ummm, whatever Sir. Man, do I regret this."
I recall seeing a photo of Bush and Powell. Bush is talking and Powell is looking at him and the expression on Powell's face says "Damn it, I should have run for President."
Flory--actually, NTodd is her guardian ad litem when Larry is off translating French. He knows Stef would kill him.
I recall seeing a photo of Bush and Powell. Bush is talking and Powell is looking at him and the expression on Powell's face says "Damn it, I should have run for President."
Or "I should have killed him when I had the chance"...
Having just arrived today, it would appear that Blake's is getting a lot of attention.
Going to New Mexico and NOT having Blake's is like going to the Vatican and NOT going into the Basilica.
Best Chocolate Shakes on Earth. The fries and burgers are incredible...I feel sorry for those who never left the East Coast, they missed out on something truly wonderful.
Dont forget that In-n-Out is owned by super-fundie christians...
Yeah, I haven't been there in a while -- not boycotting, Kirk's is just closer, but it does bug me that they put John 3:16 on the wrappers (or is it the cups?).
GWPDA, I'd take you up on the offer, but I'm driving the whole trip. No planes for me. I'm tired of having my luggage searched by the TSA every freaking time I go somewhere. There is a REASON why there are scissors and needles and fabric and embroidery floss and so on in my luggage. Geesh.
But seriously, I will make note of the Lota-Burger. Dunno about Los Alamos...
Sallyh,
One of my best friends from law school was a nurse. I learned to completely respect what nurses do from Karen. And when I broke my ankle, the nurses were so wonderful to me. It's great that your daughter wants to be a nurse; nurses, IMHO, totally rock.
Just for clarification, Bush owning up to "his" wartime past, is blaming Roosevelt for Yalta. I didn't cut off a crucial paragraph or anything.
Bill C. is the kind of son Barbara Bush wishes she could have had. He's smart, capable, and doesn't say VE-hicle. She wonders how she went wrong raising a child that grew up to be a fake Texan.
Still. A leader that genuinely wants what's best for the people of his land, not what he thinks (or is told) is best for them. Ain't that a thing.
Ain't it, indeed.
"Or "I should have killed him when I had the chance"..."
(the ears of the fishwives perk up)
Eli,
Well, I've been thinking lately that maybe one of society's main problems is that none of us really have any respect for each other. I'm not talking admiration or anything like that. Just a sense of "I'm a human being and you're a human being, and we have to be here together, so let's make it as not-unpleasent as possible." Just deal with each other instead of trying to get as much for you, whether it's at the expense of the other or not.
People shouldn't have to earn your respect, that basic base-line respect. They should just be able to lose it and maybe re-earn it. Forget about what people want until you can straighten out (and figure out) what they need.
WTF?
Haloscan cut off the rest of my post.
Oh well.
Here's Frank Rich on Laura.
Yes, Mrs. Bush was funny, but the mere sight of her "interrupting" her husband in an obviously scripted routine prompted a ballroom full of reporters to leap to their feet and erupt in a roar of sycophancy like partisan hacks at a political convention. The same throng's morning-after rave reviews acknowledged that the entire exercise was at some level P.R. but nonetheless bought into the artifice. We were seeing the real Laura Bush, we kept being told. Maybe.
"Ouch" is right. Poor Bill...
That's just sick... And wrong...
Seebach--I confess that the passage you posted made me gag on my very nice Beaujolais just a little.
Mormons? Thought the In-n-Out folks had a Revelations fixation...
Safeway is Mormon, but Albertson's?
Pie, only an utter dumbass could call someone who's been a two-time Governor of Texas and a two-time President of the United States an emasculated loser who shows no initiative.
I mean, isn't there any obligation to ground your insults in reality?
"We have learned our lesson; no one's liberty is expendable.
Unless of course, you're an AMERICAN gay, nonchristian, woman, poor, middle class, or a Democrat.
People shouldn't have to earn your respect, that basic base-line respect.
And if Americans can't respect *each other*, what chance to the Iraqis have?
Pitchforks--let's not forget black, Hispanic, physically/mentally disabled, ill...
We were seeing the real Laura Bush, we kept being told. Maybe.
Pfft. Only if she had actually written her own material.
Poppie--to be honest, my local Starbucks has a wonderful staff. Of course, we're a working class neighborhood.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
I used to work at *$. Loved my coworkers. if they had free wi-fi, i'd go more often. the strange thing about their coffee is if you get the drip coffee, it tastes metallic and gives me heartburn. not so if i make it at home. i have never figured it out. i think, oddly enough, its due to keeping the shuttles clean. at the end of the week, the coffee is mellower cuz the metal has been stained by the coffee. sounds like bullshit, but it's the only answer i can come up with.
i wish *$ didnt have such nasty business practices as far as real estate goes because otherwise, they do a good job. they pay more for coffee than folgers, maxwell house, etc, and they help with benefits for part-time employees along with same-sex benefits. but their expansion policies are asinine!
I'm a human being and you're a human being, and we have to be here together, so let's make it as not-unpleasent as possible." Just deal with each other instead of trying to get as much for you, whether it's at the expense of the other or not.
Namaste.
But seriously, I will make note of the Lota-Burger. Dunno about Los Alamos...
Oh. Hell. Well, the bridge and the drop are both in Santa Fe. WGG can show you.
The last time I flew back from Albuquerque the TSA searched my bag after I checked it in - they left a little note. Evidently they were curious as to what its weight was caused by. Two gallons of cider, a lug of apples, five Lota-burgers. A molcajete. Lota-burger french fries. They didn't take anything.
"Ouch" is right. Poor Bill...
Wow. I think you meant something else.
I can't beleieve the number of people who long for a president like Bill Clinton.
In a futile attempt to divert the thread from another discussion of delicious burgers - Anti-dietist pawns! I denounce you!
I was in Saturday night channel surfing mode, and happened across some cartoon on CN.
Batman tells some corporate Condi Rice substitute, "If you represent a threat to the world, we're taking you down. I don't care about your motives."
This is the world we live in - cartoon moonbats can engage in honest dialogue, while NYT columnists get themselves wrapped up in the charming comedy stylings of Laura Bush. Gggghh.
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Oh, and Backslider, is it possible for someone to earn our *disrespect*?
Toby... do you think Bush works harder than you do? Do you think he's shown more initiative than you?
PoppieProng, I figure it's the nature of the banking industry at the moment. They'll offer to anyone on the basis of who is least likely to pay it back. My credit union just offered me a $35,000 loan for a new car - and I havent worked in two years.
wow. that is really interesting. i think you're right about that. hmmm...
Watertiger:
No, no, no. He doesn't sit in the coop; his wife does, and hatches their spawn.
Right I forgot - he's in his corner office at the NYT building.
But seriously, I will make note of the Lota-Burger. Dunno about Los Alamos...
Fluffy Halifax --9:15 pm
i know New MExico about as well as any gringo i know, so if you're rolling through, you GOTTA give me a call...
the email works...
just sayin...
This is the world we live in - cartoon moonbats can engage in honest dialogue, while NYT columnists get themselves wrapped up in the charming comedy stylings of Laura Bush. Gggghh.
I'd be willing to bet that Frank Rich was not raving about Laura Bush's comedic brilliance.
Starbucks - the moronic brownshirt fucks of the coffee world.
Make mine Peet's!
Seebach:
Toby... do you think Bush works harder than you do? Do you think he's shown more initiative than you?
Of course he does. You whiners have this idea that Bush just coasts through life without any effort, but that's manifestly untrue.
Politicking takes a lot of work, let alone being the most powerful man on Earth.
OT, but here's your Derby payout:
10 Giacomo 102.60 45.80 19.80
18 Closing Argument 70.00 24.80
12 Afleet Alex 4.60
$2 Exacta (10-1
Paid $9,814.80
$2 Trifecta (10-18-12) Paid $133,134.80
$1 Superfecta (10-18-12-17) Paid $864,253.50
As DRF says:
...If you cashed a ticket, congratulations. If you cashed the superfecta, enjoy your retirement.
And, as always, ignore the moronic brownshirt fuck...
Politicking takes a lot of work, let alone being the most powerful man on Earth.
That must be how he gets to bed at 9pm every night.
Dave--love Pete's; it tastes far better than 'bucks, but have to go to West LA for it. The drive is painful.
We are seeing more Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf shops springing up, but sadly, fewer Gloria Jean's.
We do support two indie coffeeshops in town. Buffalo Bill's Mercantile has a limited but tasty selection of drip coffees and lattes; I sometimes consign baked goods there. Coffee & Cream has wonderful products, but the owners are so nasty that it's hardly worth it to enter.
The main reason I don't do Buffalo Bill's more often is that it's in a bad location for getting in and out, and there's no parking.
George W. Horsecrank Bush
"The most powerful man on earth..."
"I'm a human being and you're a human being, and we have to be here together, so let's make it as not-unpleasant as possible."
Let's face it...everyone knows the world is running mighty low on resources... The new right's mission is about locking down the privilege of using what's left, by hook or crook.
The only way this will end is by them breaking the bank.
only an utter dumbass could call someone who's been a two-time Governor of Texas and a two-time President of the United States an emasculated loser who shows no initiative
The governor of Texas doesn't call the shots.
Christ. the big men put georgie into the White House, and he was in his Texass mode. What a sad time for America. I weep for my country.
georgie's a loser.
Worst. President. Ever.
Toby, you're in quicksand, my friend.
That must be how he gets to bed at 9pm every night.
And don't forget those month-long do-not-disturb vacations.
Namaste.
Sure.
Politicking is hard work?
Try policy making. That's actual hard work.
Starbucks - the moronic brownshirt fucks of the coffee world.
Make mine Peet's!
i was thrilled to see a Peets go in on the drag. too bad Houston only has *$, "It's a Grind" and Deidrichs. well, that's not fair. there is the Empire Cafe, but I'm not sure it's exactly Kosher to whip out your laptop and spend 6 hours working there.
Tonight's required reading for all brownshirts: Gilliard's smackdown of Tipsy McStagger, the president who knows shit about history.
Make mine Peet's!
Amen to that.
And don't forget those month-long do-not-disturb vacations.
Except when white women in persistent vegetative states are involved.
Eli--I would so love GWB's vacation schedule. And his working hours.
I wonder if Bar's comment about her new 'son' wasn't also a little payback for Laura's rather nasty comment about her in last week's speech.
I'd be willing to bet that Frank Rich was not raving about Laura Bush's comedic brilliance.
Frank Rich
Paul Krugman
Bob Herbert
and only intermittently: MoDo
the only voices of reason at the NY Times.
Except when white women in persistent vegetative states are involved.
Well, you do have to make exceptions for national security emergencies.
...love Peet's; it tastes far better than 'bucks, but have to go to West LA for it.
Actually, I didn't know they had one in LA! Well, order some beans for shipping - I'll personally vouch for their current Anniversary Blend.
The greater point, of course, is every place has a local alternative to Starbucks. Find it, use it, support it.
I wonder if Bar's comment about her new 'son' wasn't also a little payback for Laura's rather nasty comment about her in last week's speech.
I'm just waiting for Bar, The Wire Monkey, to allude to Laura's driving skills.
Diane--from what I gather, Barbara Bush makes most axe murderers appear benevolent.
Houston blows cuz it takes a goddamned hour to get anywhere. when i lived in Austin, I could get anywhere in the city in less than 30 minutes.
it blows my mind. my brother and sis-in-law lived on 48th street. his best friend lived 16 miles north, in Cedar Park, near Lakeline mall. They teased the poor guy mercilessly, saying "you come on into town some day, y'hear?" (it was all with love)
I work 26 miles from work in Houston. takes me an hour and 20 minutes each way to go to work. it's disgusting. but that's the nature of law, i guess. i have to put in the time to get the damn experience and then move up in the world. any austin lawyers here who need a new associate?
someone who's been a two-time Governor of Texas and a two-time President of the United States an emasculated loser who shows no initiative.
"Free thinking" Bush knob-slobbin' goblin
"You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your god's name
I'm every person you need to be
I'm the cult of personality"
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Eli--I would so love GWB's vacation schedule. And his working hours.
I'd love to have his inability to worry.
Was it George Carlin who said the Radical Religious Right only cares about life when it's before birth or after death?
Eli--I would so love GWB's vacation schedule. And his working hours.
The president of the United States should be:
Smarter than me.
Harder-working than me.
More articulate than me.
More gracious than me.
I'm sure there's a few more I'm leaving out...
sallyh:
Try policy making. That's actual hard work.
Take something like Social Security. Bush gets no credit for insisting that it needs some long-term reforms, yet everybody knows that it does. The numbers are inescapable. At least Bush is standing up and making reform his policy. What do the Democrats do? Dick.
the only voices of reason at the NY Times.
Oh, but what glorious voices they are. Especially Rich & Krugman. Herbert can be heartbreaking sometimes, though.
What do the Democrats do? Dick.
Toby Petzold
You should probably be honored that they name a major policy initiative after you.
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You should probably be honored that they name a major policy initiative after you.
"Leave No Troll Behind"?
Was it George Carlin who said the Radical Religious Right only cares about life when it's before birth or after death?
probably. i think Pelosi cribbed that recently. or hillary. some Dem said it. i was so stunned that a Dem actually said something like that, that i forgot who it was.
10 Giacomo 102.60 45.80 19.80
WhooHooo!!!
Times ten in my case!
Garcon?
Burgers for all my friends
Take something like Social Security. Bush gets no credit for insisting that it needs some long-term reforms, yet everybody knows that it does.
Yes. I'm sure that he, himself, came up with the idea and courageously decided it was an issue, instead of say, being fed the issue by the Heritage Foundation and the Club for Growth.
Eli, I didn't vote for Bush in 2000 because I didn't think I should be smarter than the President of the United States. But I've come around to the genius of binary thinking. Sometimes, nuance is just sophistry.
Do you agree with me? Yes or no.
Also, Social Security is dead nomatter what we do. So it really doesn't matter what cute thing Bush does. All the money will be wiped out when the stock market crashes, anyway.
In a constitutional republic, Seebach, leaders are supposed to rely on the counsels of their peers.
Now back to Havana with you.
Bob Novak on the Crapitol Gang called Bobo's bluff: he said, quite openly, that Bush wants to turn SocSec into a fully-fledged welfare programme. And in doing so, he can then campaign to treat it the way Republicans treat any other welfare programme.
Y'all notice how Pretznilface McBumpNoggin delivered his speech in Latvia exactly as if it was one of his canned "everbuddy herre luvs me" whistle stops?
Man, that guy is embarassing.
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Bush should get credit for saying that whatever long-term concerns there are about Social Security - and there are some, undoubtably - should be dealt with RIGHT FUCKING NOW and only by completely changing the entire structure but we're not gonna tell you how, why don't you tell us your ideas. He should also get at least a little bit of credit for helping to extricate some of those long-term concerns about Soical Security because of his rampant spending and foolish economic decisions. I'll definately give him credit for that.
Bush gets no credit for insisting that it needs some long-term reforms, yet everybody knows that it does. The numbers are inescapable.
Whose numbers?
Toby, you're a helpless human being enthralled by a cult of righteous conformity, not a Finance Graduate. I am. Fuck you, you're talking out of your ass.
The fund is variable, it could go broke next week if everyone became disabled. It's flexible, and its solvency changes with the times. Obviously, Bush has trashed the economy, and less is being paid in... so it appears to be going broke.
The entire issue was brought up to rape the Democrats in the next election... it's being painted a no-win situation in order to drag whoever runs against your buddies behind a pickup truck until death occurs.
Amusing. I think Bush is an imcompetent who doesn't work, and thus I am a communist. If Bush worked in your company, you would have fired his ass.
woohoo! Pacers won. Sorry to all the Boston fans out there. I like Reggie Miller. And it's Indiana. what can I say? You go to IU for law school, you like Indiana teams.
Now the Rockets are up! Go Rockets!
Something Ugly this way comes.
Something stupid this way comes.
Something that no one likes this way comes.
And it leaves such a smelly mess.
It claims that it is smarter than Bush, but has its head so far up Bush's ass that the preznit may need to put a window in his gut so *it* can see where it's going.
Eli--not to be overly bitchy--okay, take that back, I'm going to be incredibly bitchy--the President should be willing to work 18 hours a day. Longer, if necessary. Goddess knows most of us are working a lot longer than we should, and most of our wages have declined.
Toby is so gullible that he ended up in bed with Ann Coulter and didn't realise he'd be the bottom.
...in Pasadena, about a mile from the InandOut on Foothill Blvd.
Diane
are you the one always sticking out into the street blocking my egress?
Backslider--I notice that Bush is avoiding the programs where there is a real problem--Medicaid and Medicare. His Medicaid cuts should have every governor ready to strangle him.
And for any of the less than brights in the room, Bush does NOT have a social security policy.
PoppieProng,
did you do L-school in B-town?
Thanks for the news about the pacers, for some reason I thought the game was on later.
Damn the visiting teams win the last four games, or is it 5. Thats something.
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Hey, no argument here, Sallyh. It's like a 5-year-long episode of The Simple Life: Presidents...
Sallyh,
Yeah. Makes me wonder who's making money of that particular boondoggle. You think if certain folks weren't set to make shit-tons of money off the whole privitazation thing, the powers that be would give two shits if Social Security existed or not?
And for any of the less than brights in the room, Bush does NOT have a social security policy.
Sure he does. Find some way to undermine social security, so it can be later destroyed. Just like No Child Left Behind is a plan to destroy public education so it can be replaced.
And for any of the less than brights in the room, Bush does NOT have a social security policy.
"Hulk Smash!" isn't a policy?
"We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations, appeasing or excusing tyranny.."
Seebach
Fortunate Son would just crap his diapers if he had to deal with foreign countries that had as much power as the U.S.
Once again, the "born on third base, but thinks he hit a triple" phrase is appropriate.
One of the few things I give Reagan props for is that he somehow managed to avoid Nuclear holocaust despite his ideological leanings. Luck? I dunno, but I think if chimpy were in his place, we'd all be glowing like Kingsford charcoal right now.
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Oh, but what glorious voices they are. Especially Rich & Krugman. Herbert can be heartbreaking sometimes, though.
Eli
When Marla Ruzicka died I got so pissed with the way she was portrayed on "news" shows and in the papers that I e-mailed about 25 "news" shows and columnists asking that they do a little research and talk or write about what Ms. Ruzicka was really doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. Bob Herbert was the only one that came through. I'll love him forever for that.
did you do L-school in B-town?
i did i did. my wife is still there for grad school, while i'm stuck here in houston. IT SUCKS! I miss Bloomington. kinda. it was a great place to study, since there wasn't much distraction. the weather's great, and it's very green. unlike houston. which is very grey.
Eli--at least there's the potential on SL of the Hiltons being marginally amusing.
I think that's what's lacking in the christoid-robber baron mentality: fun. The ability to enjoy life knowing your priorities are in order and that while things may not be where they should, the trajectory is solid.
BTW, Spinoza has me working on the prejudice model. I am so going to kill him next time I see him. i have accomplished nada today, thanks to him.
Hey, no argument here, Sallyh. It's like a 5-year-long episode of The Simple Life: Presidents...
I assure you that if I was not moderately torqued at the moment, I would be laughing. my. ass. off.
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Hello, dear ones.
Back from a Derby party where, (please sit down) I farking lost!!!!!!!!! Big news there. If any of you ever wish to bet on the horsies, contact me first. I can tell you exactly which horse has no chance of winning.
Bob Herbert was the only one that came through. I'll love him forever for that.
I think his columns on the Tulia fiasco were when I really started to take notice.
Pitchforks:
The entire issue was brought up to rape the Democrats in the next election... it's being painted a no-win situation in order to drag whoever runs against your buddies behind a pickup truck until death occurs.
That's an interesting metaphor. Could you be more excessive?
And how is proposing SS reform "raping" the Democrats? The only way that'll happen is if they continue to propose nothing and only make criticisms.
And the inescapable numbers? I'm thinking of the ratio of workers to retirees. It's shrinking with demographic inevitability. How does your party plan to deal with it?
Man, that guy is embarassing.
Goddess, please give us back a philanderer who can go oversees and not embarass us. Bush is SUCH an embarassment.
Fuck TP with a jagged fishknife.
I think his columns on the Tulia fiasco were when I really started to take notice.
That's where I first heard of it too. Back in the day, NPR ran several long pieces about as well. Long ago. Back when they used to be good and had real standards.
Hecate--in Europe, they're surprised if a powerful politician doesn't take a mistress. It's almost de rigeur.
Ten years from now, as if anyone's going to be worried about social security. That's such a laugh.
You think if certain folks weren't set to make shit-tons of money off the whole privitazation thing, the powers that be would give two shits if Social Security existed or not?
This crew has established a government of the looters, by the looters, for the looters, and prays that it won't perish from the earth.
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Fortunate Son would just crap his diapers if he had to deal with foreign countries that had as much power as the U.S.
well, we've seen how much trouble he's had with countries the size of California, so I can't wait to see what he does with Iran, North Korea, and oh, don't look now...is that China? Good Christ, China's on the rise.
you know, on NPR, just after the election, they interviewed some guy just hired by the pentagon. he was talking about how it might be prudent to realize that China's on the rise and there's no way the US can compete with it once it hits its stride, so maybe we need to start thinking about being a good neighbor. and i was thinking, where the hell did they get this guy? i have no idea if he has had any effect, but if he can keep us from going into iran, north korea, or both, then more power to the pentagon for hiring him.
BTW, Spinoza has me working on the prejudice model. I am so going to kill him next time I see him. i have accomplished nada today, thanks to him.
Now wait a moment. You obviously need to put down your slide rule and have a drink on me. But if you do get a signal detection model up and running let me know. If not, try MDS.
Goddess, please give us back a philanderer who can go oversees and not embarass us. Bush is SUCH an embarassment.
Oh, Hecate, I was slobbering about that this morning. I hate seeing our country represented by an ignorant, foolish idiot. I could die of shame watching him.
Toby,
Let's say I took $6,000 a year from you and millions of others, and you were forced to invest it in Haliburton. After 10 years, Haliburton has $1 Trillion hiding in South Africa, and suddenly goes bankrupt, and closes its doors. Your account vaporizes, and you're in the street when you retire.
Do you REALLY want to be forced into a situation like that? I mean, if you tried to declare bankruptcy personally, you'd be laughed out of court. Cheney is a superempowered individual with more rights than you. Why can't you admit this?
Think !!!
"Hulk Smash!" isn't a policy?
Stoli all over the laptop.
they're surprised if a powerful politician doesn't take a mistress. It's almost de rigeur.
de rigeur. heh heh
"We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations, appeasing or excusing tyranny.."
"Unless they let us have military bases and airstrips and, heh heh, 'help us in the war on terror' like Pakistan or Uzbekistan, or their old family friends like the Saudi royal family. Other than that, nope, no appeasing going on here."
China's on the rise and there's no way the US can compete with it once it hits its stride
Of course the problem is, China will never hit its stride and will probably be quite angry about that, and decide to take us down with it.
I am not a Democrat. There is not a party that espouses my needs right now.
"Unless they let us have military bases and airstrips and, heh heh, 'help us in the war on terror' like Pakistan or Uzbekistan, or their old family friends like the Saudi royal family. Other than that, nope, no appeasing going on here."
Boy, it'd really make Bush look like an idiot if other countries knew about that stuff, eh?
PoppieProng,
Whats yer wife studying? I happen to be a native born B-towner, and yes it is very green. Sucks about the long distance thing though. When does she finish?
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Oh, but what glorious voices they are. Especially Rich & Krugman. Herbert can be heartbreaking sometimes, though.
I would like to associate myself with that statement in the strongest possible way. Voices of logic and reason are hard to come by these days.
Hecate--in Europe, they're surprised if a powerful politician doesn't take a mistress. It's almost de rigeur.
Word. America. Please grow the fuck up about sex. Because if you hurt yourself, I will laugh.
Spinoza--actually, it's my own damn fault, but it's more fun to blame you
I really am intrigued by this. It's going to take me a while, but I'm having way too much fun with it, and this is why the house has not been suitably cleaned.
And the inescapable numbers? I'm thinking of the ratio of workers to retirees. It's shrinking with demographic inevitability. How does your party plan to deal with it?
Toby Petzold
Wanna see how the Democrats will deal with Social Security? Vote Democrat in 2006 and give the House and Senate majorities back to the Democrats.
Where is Incog? I read his posts earlier and have to say that he is very rude to this group and is forgiven for it too easily because people feel his pain, but god damn it, he's wrong to make y'all feel guilty or bad as if you're responsible for the condition of queers in Bush's America.
Just do what Blak does and let it slide off because it's not truly an attack on you. I appreciate the feeling of family here as I live in red Georgia, although Pine Lake is 30 % gay.
That said, I'm pissed at Incog for not being serious about emigrating. I've engaged him several times and he backs off and says he's going to stay and fight, but not once has he given any evidence of researching leaving, like I've done.
NTodd, I've had a few beers, alas, and probably should be quiet as I'm not as nimble and witty as you -- who is?
But I want to know that if things get bad here that I have people I can depend on to help me get out of this country, right now either Canada or Uruquay, but if I'm desperate anywhere at all.
Bless you, Atrios, for making a home for progressives.
Spinoza--actually, it's my own damn fault, but it's more fun to blame you.
Yes, well I have been in relationships like that.
It's going to take me a while, but I'm having way too much fun with it, and this is why the house has not been suitably cleaned.
*Tangina sighs and trudges back to her trailer*
Of course the problem is, China will never hit its stride and will probably be quite angry about that, and decide to take us down with it.
Yeah, China's tricky either way. If they succeed in becoming the uber-economy, we're screwed, and if they don't and get sick of us needling them... *sigh*
"The only way that'll happen is if they continue to propose nothing and only make criticisms."
Only valid if the problem is as defined. Seems a lot of people do not think it is the problem as defined. A guy who lights up a cigarette in a theater is not a reason for someone to scream "Fire!".
Hey, just making a flying visit in to encourage everyone to contact me re: EschaCon and to say that I've been cruising the Eschatonian blogs for an hour or so and we have some seriously smart people posting here. If I could do links worht a damn (I *know* what to do, but I nmess it up fully half the time and I'm suck and suspect sinus medicine won't help my tags, but here's a short, incomplete list of supercool blogs by sometime and regular Eschaton posters
Bouphonia
Culture of Life News II
Dependable Renegade
Dohiyi Mir
First Draft (natch)
Great Scat!
Metacomments
Multimedium
No Capital
Rampaging PMS (LJ has ended her hiatus with a vengeance!)
Rising Hegemon
Stayin' Alive
The Otter Side
and it goes on.... an embarrassment of riches, truly.
Pitchforks, not only is Bush's privatization proposal partial, it's voluntary. What's this crap about being forced to invest in Halliburton? Those individual accounts, which survive you for the benefit of your family (which is just a hateful idea, right?), are supposed to be spread around among stocks and bonds. If those funds had to be invested only in stocks, I wouldn't support it because it's too volatile, even in good times.
Pine Lake Larry--where is that boy, NTodd?
Tangina sighs and trudges back to her trailer*
Eli- Is that a double-wide?
IMHO
1/3 lb. is the ideal size for a burger. 1/2 lb. is too large and 1/4 lb. is too small.
(we're talkin' meat to bun ratio, here...)
Bush? An embarrassment?
Zounds!
Eli- Is that a double-wide?
I dunno, Tangina was pretty wee, IIRC...
kent: she's studying english. she should be able to move down to texas in december. we've been apart for one year (with monthly visits) already. i wish i could move back to hoosier-land but the economy blows and it's nigh impossible to find a job at a law firm up there right now. besides i would have to take the indiana bar. no more bar exams for me!
Petzold misses a couple of important points.
1. We already have private savings vehicles, and yes, they are voluntary. It doesn't need to be extended to SS.
2. For many, all of their 401(k)s are in company stock, which might very well be very worthless and very fast.
I think that's what's lacking in the christoid-robber baron mentality: fun.
Making more money than your great-great-grandchildren could possibly spend is the priority. There's no room for fun!!!
Watertiger--Queen of Photocaptioning.
Aw shucks, Mar.
Especially since my top two posts right now are a cat picture and something about a time travelers' convention, a motorized couch, and a "pizza button" at MIT...
Flory--regrettably, for nearly all of us, that isn't even a remote possibilty.
Toby, Bush lies. He doesn't care about the poor or the elderly. It's all a trap so the proposal can be changed in committee to whatever will destroy social security.
But I've come around to the genius of binary thinking. Sometimes, nuance is just sophistry.
Toby Petzold
Our heroic troll, having hit his head in the B/W world of ordinary Kansas, suddenly finds himself transported to a colorful world where monkeys fly and cowardly lions get medals for courage.
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watertiger: hahahahah! i love making up captions, and that is a great one!
"The only way that'll happen is if they continue to propose nothing and only make criticisms."
TALKING POINT! The rethugs have consistantly played by the rule that only 1 session needs to be held to call a meeting to order, then dismissed. Then they block Dems from further disscusion while The GOP go to meetings behind closed doors and make legislation and hand it off to the Dems with scant time to even review it before a vote is called for. That ain't democracy.
What Eli said, Mary.
Except my top two posts are pictures of Bush looking like the winner of the Twit Olympics.
And how is proposing SS reform "raping" the Democrats? The only way that'll happen is if they continue to propose nothing and only make criticisms.
And the inescapable numbers? I'm thinking of the ratio of workers to retirees. It's shrinking with demographic inevitability. How does your party plan to deal with it?
Toby, I think it's great that you're here raising points. The problem is, that you and the rest of red 'Merkins reduce everything to simplicity.
SS is a no-win issue for the Democrats. It was brought up so it could be spun into a disaster story. No matter what solution is proposed by the Democrats (i.e. raising the retirement age, cutting benefits, or God forbid...making the rich pay the same percentage as a $6.00/hr. burger flipper), the opposition is painted the bad guy.
"Toby, Bush lies. He doesn't care about the poor or the elderly. It's all a trap so the proposal can be changed in committee to whatever will destroy social security."
Seebach sums it up nicely. The only problem I see is that 'poor or elderly' is insufficient to cover all the ground Bush does.
PoppieProng,
next time you are up for one of your visits, send me an email, and we should do din-din or drinks, or both. It would be a pleasure to make your aquaintance in person.
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By the way, when is the Democratic Party's isolationism going to translate into a stronger anti-immigration policy?
If HRC has an ace in the hole, that would be it.
Oh, Hecate, I was slobbering about that this morning. I hate seeing our country represented by an ignorant, foolish idiot. I could die of shame watching him.
My country is not represented by that slobbering moran. A noisy, rude, intolerant, bitter and envious minority of MY country is represented by him. The rest of us are waiting him out.
Pine Lake Larry--where is that boy, NTodd?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Sally, since he's not here, I'm going to confide in you that I think he's the hottest dude here, Quaker or not.
Is there anyone like NTodd? He is, as Incog has said, in a class by himself, a metrosexual's metrosexual.
I heart Liddy Dole's auxiliary nipple
-Toby Petzold
correction: one picture of Bush looking like he won the Twit Olympics, and a picture of that ass't sec. of state who looks like a blond Hitler.
I like to be precise.
Well, maybe it's the antihistamine talking, but I'm honored by the presence of so much wisdom and good humor and ethical thinking here. It would be easy, I think, to believe that we're alone, that no one thinks as we think, sees the problems we see. But reading here, seeing people's own blogs--that's a good corrective to the barrage of crap we get from all around us daily.
Ah, crap. Gotta be the antihistamine.
kent: sweeeeeeeet! it probably won't be before this fall, but i'll try to remember. we could go to nick's, or the trojan horse, or upland, or... um... sorry, but not the vid.
Just starting to catch up, I thought this was ironic (Fron the NYTimes)
"In his speech on Saturday, Mr. Bush seemed certain to irritate Mr. Putin further when he warned him as he had in February about retreating on democracy. "All free and successful countries have some common characteristics - freedom of worship, freedom of the press, economic liberty, the rule of law and the limitation of power through checks and balances," Mr. Bush said."
Except my top two posts are pictures of Bush looking like the winner of the Twit Olympics.
He scored perfect 10s in the "Kicking the beggar" event, but had very little success unhooking the bra on the womannequin.
By the way, when is the Democratic Party's isolationism going to translate into a stronger anti-immigration policy?
Silly Toby. Neither party will support less immigration, because immigration = cheap profits. And isn't that good for the free market or whatever?
sallyh - exactly why we have room for fun in our lives. Obsessing over money describes nobody in this group.
PoppieProng.
Hangin' with kent is a lot of fun, as I can attest.
Aw shucks, Mar.
I feel yer pain Eli, all I got are rodent entrails on the dining room rug and a couple of snaps of a new mother min-pin that lives next door.
hmmmmmmm Motorized Couch, hmmmmmmmm, might the time machine take advantage of such technology?
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NYMary,
It ain't the drugs talking. You have just become so unused to reason by what you see from the press that it looks brand new.
btw, kent, the picture of the rodent entrails on your webpage is... um... gross.
Ah, crap. Gotta be the antihistamine.
Another victim of allergies. Fuck 'em, I say, sneezing so hard I throw out my back.
Pitchforks:
SS is a no-win issue for the Democrats. It was brought up so it could be spun into a disaster story.
This is a misunderstanding similar to that of the doctrine of pre-emptive war. And it's based on a lie that Bush said Saddam was an imminent threat. He never said that. He said Saddam was a gathering threat. The idea is that you do soemthing about the inevitable problem on your own terms rather than waiting too long and having to deal with it on someone else's terms.
No matter what solution is proposed by the Democrats (i.e. raising the retirement age, cutting benefits, or God forbid...making the rich pay the same percentage as a $6.00/hr. burger flipper), the opposition is painted the bad guy.
Then you should be glad that we have a President who's smart enough to pull that off.
And it's based on a lie that Bush said Saddam was an imminent threat. He never said that. He said Saddam was a gathering threat.
This proves Toby argues in bad faith.
PoppieProng.
Hangin' with kent is a lot of fun, as I can attest.
NYMary/Lissadell |
really? yay!
you know, flory's comment makes me think. as many cool lawyers visit Atrios, can you imagine the kickass law firm we could create? a boy can dream i guess.
Eli,
I just wish he'd quit talking big about tyranny when he's dealing with the guy who runs Uzbekistan, a gentleman known to boils dissidents in fucking oil. "Oh, Saddam - who we supported and financed for almost two decades - is another Hitler, but you, you're just a snuggy bear, aren't you."
I wish all politicians would do that, though, frankly. Cut out the bullshit and talk straight for once.
btw, kent, the picture of the rodent entrails on your webpage is... um... gross.
Yeah I know. I almost stepped into them with socks on in the wee of the morning, bleary eyed and before coffee. But the surgical precision was something to behold.
I guess its time to move that image beneath the fold with a couple of fat black cat pictures.
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Good morning, moonbats. I just woke up a little while ago from an allergy-induced nap. Besides Toby being a putz, what have I missed?
Well, maybe it's the antihistamine talking...
Auntie Histamine don't talk; she snores...
kent, ick.
hmmmmmmm Motorized Couch, hmmmmmmmm, might the time machine take advantage of such technology?
I dunno, but if I could fit it into the elevator at work, I'd be all set.
That, and figuring out a way to get it down my stairs.
I wish all politicians would do that, though, frankly. Cut out the bullshit and talk straight for once.
Okay, Backslider, please put down the crack pipe!
NTodd,
SallyH and Pine Lake Harry were extolling your virtues.
Oh, and Bush is still Twit Olympics gold medalist.
Ah, crap. Gotta be the antihistamine.
It's been my experience that one can never take enough antihistamine to really buffer the reality of upstate New York.
Has Babs called Rove yet to appologize?
EkC,
I read that article and then somewhere else where a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court. Hahahahahahah. Whew. Hahahahaha. Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
Yeah I know. I almost stepped into them with socks on in the wee of the morning, bleary eyed and before coffee. But the surgical precision was something to behold.
okay, that's true; it is quite amazing. good thing you didn't step in it! (i'm soooooo glad my cat is an indoor cat!)
Evening, freethinkers
Toby, It's not smart, it's manipulative and devious, the only reason for doing so is to maintain power.
Lord Acton said, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Blind faith in bad leadership is NOT patriotism.
I read that article and then somewhere else where a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court. Hahahahahahah. Whew. Hahahahaha. Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
Schweeeeeeeeeeeet!
Kent you are postive one of your guys did the job. Or maybe you had a mini black helicopter visit.
Yeah I know. I almost stepped into them with socks on in the wee of the morning, bleary eyed and before coffee. But the surgical precision was something to behold.
I guess its time to move that image beneath the fold with a couple of fat black cat pictures.
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet. Gah. Didn't kill it, either.
I have now bumped the cat and time travelers and etc. down with some Miscellaneous Transport Components Photoblogging.
Evenin', Ripely.
I can't believe Bush calls Putin "Vladimir". He's not even a white hat, in Bush's little Manichean world. Or he shouldn't be.
This proves Toby argues in bad faith.
Same as it ever was.
And this picture of w needs no captioning..
NYMary ...
Did you or Thersites do the Motorhead show in NYC on Thursday PM? Not-Mister went and he is just about recovered.
SallyH and Pine Lake Harry were extolling your virtues.
Oh, how nice! I certainly can be moderately virtuous when I'm in the mood.
Bush is still Twit Olympics gold medalist.
Damn, I was hoping all this was just a horrible, horrible dream. Mebbe I'll go back to sleep.
Did Toby just call Democrats isolationists?
hahahahahahahahahahaha
gasp
hahahahahahahahahahaha
I think Clinton is probably as dismayed by the bitterness and partisanship that are rending our government as the rest of us are, and has been trying to do his bit to bridge the gulf. Admirable, but the fault lies entirely on the other side.
Clinton should just tell the Bushes to go suck a fat one.
NTodd--someone is spreading a vicious rumor that I am extolling your virtues...
do you have any?
And I think Babs started to say "Son of a bitch", realized what she would me saying, and caught herself just in time.
Dammit.
Eli, I believe it was called "The Upper Class Twit of the Year Competition."
Unfortunately, George W. will probably not run himself over with the Jaguar convertible.
Pitchforks, not only is Bush's privatization proposal partial, it's voluntary.
Toby Petzold
Whoopee! 2 TRILLION FUCKIN DOLLARS down the Citibank memory hole. All to get us a system where Jane and Joe SixPack get their benefits reduced.
Remember, when goofball wants to pull his "reasonable" schtick, he's Trollby.
When he lets his librul hatin', brownshirt wearin' freak flag fly, he's Avestus.
Back to topics that really matter, what are you all watching tonight? I'm torn between Branaugh's Henry V and Hedwig.
And screw the burger-joint discussion. How about favorite delicatessens? There was this place in Pacific Grove, CA that was paradise. The fresh bread, the meats, you could just plotz.
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I read that article and then somewhere else where a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court. Hahahahahahah. Whew. Hahahahaha. Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
there was also something interesting he said about ww2 and East Germany this week. i can't remember what it was... but it struck me at the time as odd.
Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
Evil yes, but cunning and smart. Bush, well, two outta three ain't bad...
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet.
1. Crushing a waterbug (aka NYC palmetto bug, with attitude) under my bare heel, unwittingly.
2. Stepping in dogshit barefoot, in a downpour, with emphasis on the toes.
bigvic, yep I have seen the same reference around. Fun it is like Pinky and the Brain are having a tiff. I think Bush is pinky. Mind you I am only slightly familiar with the series so I may be off a bit.
I read that article and then somewhere else where a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court. Hahahahahahah. Whew. Hahahahaha. Putin is an evil dude so it was extra funny to hear him give it back to Bu$h in spades.
bigvic
Ah, another wildly successful diplomatic to Europe and environs.
How lucky we are.
NTodd--I am, for the record, cooking your beef stroganoff recipe for dinner. I have a different recipe (bechamel sauce, beef consomme, dry white wine), so we'll see if the family likes your version better.
Oh, and it's no rat entrails, but there's Belated Babyblogging at the homepage.
I take it you all have seen Bush's comments about Yalta?
I know most Americans think we won WWII singlehandedly, and George S. Patton was responsible for most of it, and would have conquered Russia in two weeks if we' let him...
...but our Presidents have usually been a bit more circumspect than that.
Honestly. Every time you think this man can be any stupider, he goes and proves you wrong. Remind me again why a guy who pisses on every other country in the world is a "great leader"? Especially since he's proven our military is nothing more than a paper tiger, that Vietnam was not a fluke, and that we didn't learn a damned thing in the 20th century?
I'll retire to Bedlam....
and to be clear, i mean ww2 and east germany were discussed separately. it wasnt like ww2 and EG in the same context. cuz that would be assinine.
a very pissed off Putin (soul mate to boosh) snarked that he didn't need a lecture on "freedom" from a man appointed to office by the Supreme Court.
Yes, Pooty Poot is a bit pissed at Dubya. Gonna be on 60 Minutes tomorrow night. Mayhaps the honeymoon is over.
1. Crushing a waterbug (aka NYC palmetto bug, with attitude) under my bare heel, unwittingly.
Ohjeez. That was, like, my ultimate worst nightmare as a kid. There are few things more genuinely horrible than waterbugs, except maybe flying roaches.
Hi NTodd. I finally got quicktime working on my new laptop so I was able to hear and NToddcast for the first time today.
Do you realize how much work is not going to get done while I catch up on the archives?
Eli, I believe it was called "The Upper Class Twit of the Year Competition."
I didn't want to correct Ms. Tigre because, well, she's hot.
RMJ--you can't retire to Bedlam. We're living in it.
Same as it ever was.
And this picture of w needs no captioning..
what a FANTASTIC photoshop! very well done. "shay hello to ma leetle fren'!"
Good morning, moonbats. I just woke up a little while ago from an allergy-induced nap.
That is exactly what happens to me when I take the effective allergy meds. Kiss your ass goodbye. Those things are knock-out drops! Talk about a head full of fuzz.
I am, for the record, cooking your beef stroganoff recipe for dinner. I have a different recipe (bechamel sauce, beef consomme, dry white wine), so we'll see if the family likes your version better.
Uh-oh, that's a lot of pressure!
I didn't want to correct Ms. Tigre because, well, she's hot.
[blushes - twirls her hair around one finger]
I was going for speed, not accuracy, on that one. My apologies if I offended the purists.
Hiya, Ripley!
Moose Pudding: I just got my Mother's Day gift, a Devo DVD. That's what *we're* wathcing, anyway.
NTodd--speaking of pressure, I pissed the girl off. Her bf was not ready when she went to pick him up, said he wouldn't be done working for 20 more minutes, and she called me going ballistic. I told her, either grow up or don't date anyone. Was I unfair?
I take it you all have seen Bush's comments about Yalta?
WTF? You mean we had farking allies? No way.
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet.
1. Crushing a waterbug (aka NYC palmetto bug, with attitude) under my bare heel, unwittingly.
2. Stepping in dogshit barefoot, in a downpour, with emphasis on the toes.
watertiger
Reminds me of a haiku:
"The piercing chill I feel:
my dead wife's comb, in our bedroom,
under my heel..."
Taniguchi Buson
And this picture of w needs no captioning..
Jeebus, he looks completely smashed. How much Wild Turkey was in that glass?
flory - I'm sorry about being a quantum singularity sucking up all your time. Skipping the first few casts might be a good idea!
RMJ - Bush said something about Yalta? If anybody has a linky, I'd appreciate it. Elsewise I'll go see if it's up on the WH site...
My apologies if I offended the purists.
(in a spluttering rage)
You... you... you...
(red-faced, shaking fist, hoping righteous fury impresses, as have not actually yet read thread to know what is going on)
All i can say for Stroganoff a la NTodd is that it smells positively divine. That's only because we haven't eaten it yet, of course.
um... sorry, but not the vid.
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Are you sure you don't want to shoot some pool or throw some darts?
NYMary,
I did have a blast hanging with you as well.
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Dammit, I am 20 minutes behind again (must stop trying to read all the threadly goodness)
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Now you come back, NTodd, great. You're not all that, although I wouldn't kick you out of bed.
Back to topics that really matter, what are you all watching tonight? I'm torn between Branaugh's Henry V and Hedwig.
Both fine films! I think I would lean towards Hedwig, but I guess it depends on whether you're more in the mood for Shakespeare or music. The songs in Hedwig are awesome, BTW.
Besides Toby being a putz, what have I missed?
NTodd
In addition to being a putz, the consensus seems to be that he's less than attractive, somewhat intellectually challenged, and a bit lacking in friends.
So, he's ugly, stupid, and nobody likes him. You haven't missed much.
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"So, he's ugly, stupid, and nobody likes him. You haven't missed much."
The best things in life never change.
RMJ - Bush said something about Yalta? If anybody has a linky, I'd appreciate it. Elsewise I'll go see if it's up on the WH site...
Try Gilliard...
Been away from the party for
a while....
anything cool happen while I was gone?
Sallyh - not unfair at all. The truth hurts. Tell her I'll take her out for ice cream later.
Is Hedwig the one complaining about the angry inch after the botched sex-change operation?
NYMary:
Rosie's getting more adorable by the day.
And MR. NTodd - don't you owe us some belated Samblogging?
Heh, Eli. A friend recently gave me the Hedwig soundtrack. Too cool.
Larry, yes.
Mar, I think I have well over half the soundtrack on my iPod.
steve simels
The planet now knows you went AOL.
Other than that not much.
Are you sure you don't want to shoot some pool or throw some darts?
i don't know what's wrong with me, but that place always creeped me out! hahaha! i'm not much of a hipster. i mean, i'm cool, but... not a hipster.
Eli - thx. I'll check it out.
have seen the same reference around. Fun it is like Pinky and the Brain are having a tiff. I think Bush is pinky. Mind you I am only slightly familiar with the series so I may be off a bit.
Oh, no, EkC, you're not off at all. Boosh is . I am in eternal horror of that schmuck going on the word stage and embarrassing us all over the place. He has no idea or concept of what he says or does.
NTodd--I also informed her that it's not always about her, which, as an only child, had to hurt in the worst possible way.
Got oil?
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steve simels ... Thought you were going to see your mommy?
Oooooo, steve!!!!
In yesterday's mail: three copies of New York Rocker, from 1976. An amusing feature on an improbably fresh-faced Ramones entering the studio FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME!! So cool! Plus, some weird CD from a band, drummer name of Glen Robert Allen. That mean anything to you?
Just started listening to the new NIN album. First song sounds kinda like, um, Joe Jackson...
anything cool happen while I was gone?
sallyh is cooking. RMJ is retiring to bedlam. NTodd has something going with Randy. Watertiger is the caption queen.
Oh yeah - and Toby is stupid and ugly and has no friends.
steve simels
The planet now knows you went AOL.
Other than that not much.
oh man! i had forgotten! hahahah!
Steve Simels--not sure anything cool happened, but I did make Stroganoff a la NTodd and honey whole wheat casserole bread.
And wish Mother Simels the very best Mother's Day.
I realize that prophylactics aren't much in favor with rightwing zanoids, but before they're tempted to cite chimpy as a righteous defender of the oppressed, I'd like to say:
Nuzzle the might Clenis™!
"Through President Clinton's initiative, on April 30, 1994 Latvia and Russia signed a troop withdrawal agreement. Russia withdrew its troops by August 31, 1994, and will maintain several hundred technical specialists to staff an OSCE-monitored phased-array ABM radar station at Skrunda until the facility is dismantled no later than 1999."
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Stupid tags.
Thanks for changing my picture on your site, NTodd. I figured these effete yankee liberals would find a picture of me in my "Hee Haw" overalls more appropriate to their prejudices.
Eli: i listened to the NIN album online the other day. it was being streamed. the quality sucked, but i was rather surprised at where he went musically. i'm such a big NIN dork.
RMJ:
The man doesn't understand that the US isn't being showered with rosepetals in Iraq. Don't ask for miracles.
flory - I posted a pic of Sam last night! And once again, the boy's outside, so no new pic today, but I'll see what I can do.
As for Bush and Yalta: yowsa, the guy is dumb.
EkCenTriK
I will take the visits by black heli's into consideration, but unfortunately this is not the only example of surgical precision, that I have had the "pleasure" to examine, unless I have been "visited" for nigh on 15 years, and the timing of the first was only coincidental to the arrival of the first cat.
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Eli: i listened to the NIN album online the other day. it was being streamed. the quality sucked, but i was rather surprised at where he went musically. i'm such a big NIN dork.
It's got the same industrial fuzz in the background, but the tunes themselves do seem a bit different...
I also informed her that it's not always about her, which, as an only child, had to hurt in the worst possible way.
Okay, THAT was unfair. No, wait, it's always about ME, so I guess it was perfectly fair. Nevermind.
I'd assumed this as already a topic of discussion.
It prolly was and I missed it. I haven't read the thread because I'm sleepy and lazy. Thanks for the cite.
Me, I'm watching "Garfield: The Movie", which some asshat at Cinemax scheduling thought belonged in the Saturday night 10:00 p.m. time slot.
Okay, I'm lying. I'm watching "The Shining". Movie still scares the bejesus out of me.
I don't think Bush even believes history is useful, and he's certainly made no effort to learn any.
In yesterday's mail: three copies of New York Rocker, from 1976. An amusing feature on an improbably fresh-faced Ramones entering the studio FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME!! So cool! Plus, some weird CD from a band, drummer name of Glen Robert Allen. That mean anything to you?
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Whoa!
Gotta go look at this.....
Evidently, Bush thinks that no other nation knows what happens here, and that no Americans will ever hear what he says when he's out of the country.
Fuckin rhinestone cowboy.....
Does the man begin to understand that Russia sustained the greatest loss of life in that war, and broke the back of the German army? That if not for Russia, D-Day would have been impossible? Or a miserable failure, at best?
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Doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he said in regards to Yalta. On this one he is right.
This is one of the articles I found, NTodd
"Okay, THAT was unfair. No, wait, it's always about ME, so I guess it was perfectly fair. Nevermind."
hasn't Stef attempted to correct you regarding this?
flory,
Boosh doesn't live in reality. I'm sure that dumbass thinks he's a world wide hit. I bet he even thinks that his blathering is taken seriously in the world. Hahahahahahaha. Sheesh. Hahahaha.
Thanks for changing my picture on your site, NTodd. I figured these effete yankee liberals would find a picture of me in my "Hee Haw" overalls more appropriate to their prejudices.
No worries. 'course, I had some overalls just like yours.
Wow. This Brooks column is something. I don't think I've seen a bigger piece of shit in quite some time. I wonder if he stamped his feet while writing it. How much koolaid did he drink before sitting down to produce this? Asshole.
I'm watching "The Shining".
But "The Matrix: Reloaded" is on!
Presidents who have killed would naturally feel a part of the same club.
Me, I'm watching "Garfield: The Movie", which some asshat at Cinemax scheduling thought belonged in the Saturday night 10:00 p.m. time slot.
Okay, I'm lying. I'm watching "The Shining". Movie still scares the bejesus out of me.
Not nearly as much as the Garfield movie would, I bet.
Hi all. Long time no see. Huckabee the Arkansas Governor blows a harp for free republic get togethers.
Imagine how much freep heads 'sploded when he made an appearance with the Clenis(tm).
I'll be baaaaack on Monday. Much to discuss!
Toby and pals are fucking hilarious. Bush Administration, touting progressive taxation?
Do you even recognize yourselves anymore?
Arrrggg = Duhhhhh....
But "The Matrix: Reloaded" is on!
(slaps forehead)
Doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he said in regards to Yalta. On this one he is right.
No, no he's not. Let's stop with the historical revisionism. It's as stupid a debate as to whether we should've dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
hasn't Stef attempted to correct you regarding this?
Yes, thus far with little success.
oooh, and SciFi has an earthquake movie with I think a scientist babe. maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
Blind faith in bad leadership is NOT patriotism,it is foolishness
Toby and pals are fucking hilarious. Bush Administration, touting progressive taxation?
Do you even recognize yourselves anymore?
fourmorewars
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Yeah, but in 4-8 years they will declare it to be welfare because it's progressive taxation and want to get rid of it all together. Just watch.
I have now bumped the cat and time travelers and etc. down with some Miscellaneous Transport Components Photoblogging.
Rat guts have been moved down as well, though I fear that the new camera will make me a lazy blogger.
As I really don't have anything substantial to add about Trainwreck America™ I may branch out into Mac-mini hacks and metal lathe blogging,
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NYMary:
Glen Robert Allen?
You're kidding, right?
well, goodnight all! the cafe is closing, and i think i'm gonna go play some FFX-2. i meant to do work tonight, too. damn!
SciFi has an earthquake movie with I think a scientist babe. maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
I hope they discover that the earthquake is being caused by an Evil Yet Hot Science Babe so we'll see some Hot Science Babe on Hot Science Babe action. Oh wait, you said it's on SciFi, not Skinemax. Damn.
Does the man begin to understand that Russia sustained the greatest loss of life in that war, and broke the back of the German army? That if not for Russia, D-Day would have been impossible? Or a miserable failure, at best?
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Doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he said in regards to Yalta. On this one he is right.
Arrrggg
Huh?
This doesn't even make sense. Ignorance of history is no excuse.
oooh, and SciFi has an earthquake movie with I think a scientist babe. maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
I actually had that on while I puttered about, but the dialogue and acting was even beyond Mansquito-bad, so I left.
"oooh, and SciFi has an earthquake movie with I think a scientist babe. maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
Thersites"
At best, it would probably stop traffic and maybe a pacemaker or two.
I think when Boosh looked into Putin's *soul* he saw an exact relfection of his own supposed *soul* "It was dark, he was drunk, and it was delicious."
Ted Hitler.
Doesn't have a damn thing to do with what he said in regards to Yalta. On this one he is right.
Gotta agree with Arrgh here. Bush is right on this one.
Stalin was a top-tier tyrant, as bad as Hitler and Mao. Putin is a miserable little thug and a slime. It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
They're *mental" rosepetals, flory! Just ask Doug Feith!
The songs in Hedwig are awesome, BTW.
Eli
Yer durn tootin'! I've got all the mp3s on my hard drive. Initiating "Wicked Little Town" mode..
Always wondered what angry Incog's take on the transex/TV scene was, but always forget to ask him.
First song sounds kinda like, um, Joe Jackson...
Eli
Always thought Joe Jackson and Elvis Costello were the two lyrical gods of the 80s, but never been known for my cool points.
"Man makes a gun - man goes to war
Man can kill and man can drink
And man can take a whore
Kill all the blacks - kill all the reds
And if there’s war between the sexes
Then there’ll be no people left"
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"Blind faith in bad leadership is NOT patriotism,it is foolishness"
Blue Dragon speaks. And he's right.
Blind faith in anything is pretty insane.
Blind faith in bad leadership is NOT patriotism,it is foolishness
Blue Dragon
Word, Dragon.
"It was dark, he was drunk, and it was delicious."
Bigvic--winner of this hour's iced tea up the nose award!
At what point does Bush apologize for us assisting in winning the war? I take it in a year or two, he will be wanting to return those territories Germany ran rampant over back to Germany.
Beyond Mansquito-bad.
Wow.....how bad must that be.
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet. Gah. Didn't kill it, either.
Double gah; junebug in yer barefooted sneakers on a fine--till then anyway--June morning.
And one fine June evening, for reasons that will never be clear, a couple friends and I decided to do the haispray-and-Bic-lighter thing with a house covered in junebugs....never forget the smell.
BTW, has anyone noticed that Blue Dragon is hot?
steve,
I am dead serious. Gerry Devine & the Hi-Beams.
Fun fact: when I accidenally leave the flaps open on my nursing bra, Thers says, "You've got your hi-beams on."
Blind faith in anything is pretty insane.
And blind faith in blind faith is the absolute worst.
RMJ:
The man doesn't understand that the US isn't being showered with rosepetals in Iraq. Don't ask for miracles.
flory
The man doesn't even understand that he's destroyed our image as a "superpower."
And pretty soon, we'll be an ecomomic paper tiger, too, thanks to his idiotic "leadership."
I think even Bedlam is going to be bankrupt when I get there....
There goes Bob's claw
To readjust my merkin.
I am such workin'
to pull it out of my twat.
I bet he even thinks that his blathering is taken seriously in the world. Hahahahahahaha. Sheesh. Hahahaha.
Koizumi didn't squelch the new textbooks, then apologized, then re-insulted the Chinese, who then basically told their protestors to do whatever. Japan gets boycotted. We'll see where that goes.
Now 'Doh-bya says we should've kicked the Soviets' asses after WWII.
These people are REALLY out to lunch. Forget Canada, forget emigration at all... isn't there some other PLANET we can all go to?
This doesn't even make sense. Ignorance of history is no excuse.
Robert M. Jeffers
I think it just gave Bush a chance to slam FDR, and I think it was intended as much for the American audience as the Latvian audience.
Freakin hypocrite.
Moron.
Steve S--it's truly trite, tonight's SciFi feature.
I'm waiting for the one with 42 mummies in it.
Beyond Mansquito-bad.
Wow.....how bad must that be.
I hope it doesn't mean there are no scientist babes.
I have my standards.
"I'm not going to hurt you Wendy. I'm going to bash your brains in!"
fuck, he is so scary.
maybe she'll try to stop the earthquake by taking off her bra.
Screw "Northwest Passage", I'm there.
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Stalin was a top-tier tyrant, as bad as Hitler and Mao. Putin is a miserable little thug and a slime. It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
Old Hat
Which has nothing to do with Yalta. Honestly, don't they teach history anymore?
I'm not going to get started...I am not going to get started....(where's my mouthguard? Gonna grind my teeth to powder in a minute. Stupid ferret never came back with the scotch.....)
BTW, has anyone noticed that Blue Dragon is hot?
Am I the only one who thinks he looks a lot like Roy Scheider?
I'm waiting for the one with 42 mummies in it.
Actually, I think it's a 42-*foot* mummy...
I actually had that on while I puttered about, but the dialogue and acting was even beyond Mansquito-bad, so I left.
Now I'm not allowed to watch it. We're watching the Devo DVD NYM got for Mother's Day.
We are very traditional around here.
I think it just gave Bush a chance to slam FDR, and I think it was intended as much for the American audience as the Latvian audience.
Freakin hypocrite.
Moron.
Diane
Everything Bush does is for American consumption.
But there's an entire world (literally) of experience that is not American, and ignorance of it is not only inexcusable, but dangerous.
Especially in a POTUS.
"he looks a lot like Roy Scheider?"
The wife said the same thing yesterday when I was scrolling through the pics.
NYMary:
I'm very confused...i,e, I've
been napping for a couple of
hours.
What have I missed vis a vis
my good pal Glen Bob and my
secret album?
It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
Old Hat
You mean, like, Hiroshima, Vietnam, Iraq? That kinda stuff?
The entire human race has skeletons, the difference is, WE are still pulling this crap on the rest.
This doesn't even make sense. Ignorance of history is no excuse.
Robert M. Jeffers
Well, that's our little Georgie in a nutshell, isn't it?
blind faith in blind faith is the absolute worst.
Beats blind faith in Blind Faith. Or any supergroup, for that matter.
Sally:
I'm rather looking for that
forty-one foot Mummy movie
myself.
I think it may be a metaphor.
I'm waiting for the one with 42 mummies in it.
I am sure that you meant "the one with the 42 foot mummy. Hoooboy that one is sure to be a stinker to rival all stinkers.
EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?
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"he looks a lot like Roy Scheider?"
The wife said the same thing yesterday when I was scrolling through the pics.
EkCenTriK
That 30 year old picture I sent hides the fact that now I look a lot like Rob Schneider.
Only with hair.
I'm waiting for the one with 42 mummies in it.
Actually, I think it's a 42-*foot* mummy...
I'm taking out my 42 foot mummy for brunch tomorrow. Mummy's Day, you know.
Man, they are going to run out of mimosas pretty damn quick...
Steve S--don't you EVER talk about Mother Simels that way...
Or I'll tell on you.
Behold the power of artistic genius!
You know, the sun is in your eyes
And hurricanes and rains
and black and cloudy skies.
You're running up and down that hill.
You turn it on and off at will.
There's nothing here to thrill
or bring you down.
And if you've got no other choice
You know you can follow my voice
through the dark turns and noise
of this wicked little town.
Oh Lady, luck has led you here
and they're so twisted up
they'll twist you up. I fear.
the pious, hateful and devout,
you're turning tricks til you're turned out,
the wind so cold it burns,
you're burning out and blowing round.
And if you've got no other choice
you know you can follow my voice
through the dark turns and noise
of this wicked little town.
The fates are vicious and they're cruel.
You learn too late you've used two wishes
like a fool
and then you're someone you are not,
and Junction City ain't the spot,
remember Mrs. Lot
and when she turned around.
And if you've got no other choice
You know you can follow my voice
through the dark turns and noise
of this wicked little town.
OK, no movie, work of art, or song can make heteros understand just what gay people go through in these times.
Like many of us, I think "what's wrong with trying to find love." It's a lonely world out there.
I know we can never really understand. But maybe this sort of thing can help. Being an Army guy, and having had a a lot of gay friends (both sexes), I've seen a glimpse of what being gay in a town like Junction City, KS can mean.
All boils down to this - given a choice, why in the Hell do so many people choose to be hateful?
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It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
Old Hat
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You mean, like, Hiroshima, Vietnam, Iraq? That kinda stuff?
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No. Stuff far worse than that. 10 million dead Ukranians, the crushing of Czeckoslovakia, the occupation of the Baltics and Eastern Europe for half a century, the building of walls to keep people from escaping their occupation. Trying to change the subject and excuse the USSR doesn't cut it, and only makes us fall into the image that people like Coulter try to paint of us.
EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?
With bells on.
Blind faith in anything is pretty insane.
And blind faith in blind faith is the absolute worst.
Eli
Thanks Hawkeye.
I am sure that you meant "the one with the 42 foot mummy. Hoooboy that one is sure to be a stinker to rival all stinkers.
reminds me of "mystery science theatre" where they may fun of all those movies that are so bad they are good.
"EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?"
Right next to Eli, and I'll bring a cake!
With bells on.
I knew you were easy.
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Putin is a miserable little thug and a slime. It's time Russia admits to all of the horrible shit it has done to its citizens and its neighbors in the past.
We're not talking about Russia admitting it did shit. We're talking about Yalta. I think Bush just wants to piss on everthing FDR did.
What have I missed vis a vis
my good pal Glen Bob and my
secret album?
steve simels
Nothing. You've missed nothing at all. Just that I have it.
I also got Lynne Me Your Ears this week, and that supercool Zombies record. And the Get Up Twins, the last also for Mother's Day.
Some might think that Devo and the Get Up Kids are not a romantic Mother's Day gift. Not roses or jewelry or whatever. Bullshit. Romance means getting each other.
These people are REALLY out to lunch.
Dangerously so. I'm a little scared. No, I'm a lotta skeert!
I think it just gave Bush a chance to slam FDR, and I think it was intended as much for the American audience as the Latvian audience.
Freakin hypocrite.
Moron.
Diane | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 10:53 pm | #
Fucking LET him, and encourage him to pour it on.
Him and his buddies are so arrogant and cocky and above all stupid, they'll be twelve feet deep and looking up at all the angry voters who had been on their side, before they even start to think, 'Wha? Wha? WhadidIsay?'
Most awful experience like that for me had to be stepping on a junebug in bare feet. Gah. Didn't kill it, either.
Actually, I stepped on a camel cricket or cave cricket in my basement once and slid and fell on my ass. Gross! If you've seen them, you know they're full of water, hence the name "CAMEL" cricket. Gross!~!
Sallyh:
Shhhhhhhhhh.....
Or any supergroup, for that matter.
Thanks Thersites, now I have their remake of "Well Alright" stuck in my head. Guess it could be worse...
Maybe Clinton's bridge-building within the US is just a stepping-off point for world peace. Do you really think he'll succeed?
No. Stuff far worse than that. 10 million dead Ukranians...
The Ukes are my peeps. I don't give a shit if Putin apologizes for what Stalin did. I'm more concerned about what Bush is doing now in my name.
NTodd,
I think Shrub wants to piss on everything FDR did in the same idiotic way he undid everything Clinton did, helter skelter. Clinton/FDR bad, Bu$h good. What a disaster.
Evening Moonbats, still fighting the good fight against a bad president and worse movies? (apparently)
Here's a clue, free from me to you. Poor mothering hurts us all.
Hecate, no disrespect here, but children do grow up and must take responsibility for their own actions.
Maybe she was a bad mother. But I don't blame Babs (bitch that she is) for W's failings.
spooks always enjoy other spooks.
and boners always cling to other boners.
ghwb was a boner at yale.
and bill became a pg boner during his yale law days. it is one of the aspects of bonerdom that goes undiscussed. the conventional wisdom is that bonerhood is only for yalie undergrads. this is not true.
pg students at yale can also become boners.
i think that bill became a boner. that hilary became one of the first female boners [perhaps even the first].
reflecting on this, think on how the amerikan election process has been being controlled by the boner elite....
ghwbush....a boner
bill clinton...a boner
gwbush....a boner
al gore....not a boner
john kerry....a boner
dick'em cheney...was he a boner while at yale?
of course, beyond the boner linkage, there is the rockefeller linkage.
ghwbush....grandson of sam, a rockefeller front man.
bill clinton...if you were doing politics successfully in arkansas, you had to become a rockefeller acolyte...this state is a rockefeller pocket borough.
john kerry - major investor in heinz has long been rockefeller money.
dick'em cheney - from wyoming. another rockefeller pocket borough. like west virginia.
i assert that you cannot discuss amerikan politics without a detailed consideration of the rockefeller manipulations.
lastly, there are the intell services relationships...
ghwbush...long-term outfit asset.
bill clinton....outfit asset.
al gore....perhaps not, but his dad was.
john kerry....his dad was. and so was he. most of his activities in the brownwater navy were spookish. at times i think that his refusal to fight back against the swift boat assholes was the result of his reluctance to reveal his spook ties during his time in the nam.
on the other hand, he has always been a boner. whatever that lodge tells him to do, he will do. it is the nature of the contract. the lodge arranged his heinz widow morganatic marriage, his entry into ducal sybaritism. and he isn't going to be destroying his nights on frette sheets at multi-residences. john kerry=just another whore. a more reticent tom delay, i think.
EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?
I got backup copies of all the episodes, in case they're needed.
reminds me of "mystery science theatre" where they may fun of all those movies that are so bad they are good.
I'm still rooting for DIYMST3K with Mansquito at EschaCon.
Right next to Eli, and I'll bring a cake!
Double woohoo!!!
I'm more concerned about what Bush is doing now in my name.
Speaking of which, I'm going to whore today's podcast on Bush's radio address one more time for good measure. It could very well be the most important thing you ever listen to, until the fun begins on Cinemax.
Is it just me, or does the Haloscan timestamp more closely resemble reality?
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2. For many, all of their 401(k)s are in company stock, which might very well be very worthless and very fast.
Hello? Wake up, America.
FWIW,
The DVD versions of MST films allow you to watch the films without their commentary. Plus, we have episodes of "The Master" on DVD.
Steve S--admit it. Is Mother Simels an awesome cook or not?
Some say Mao killed up to 100 million. Who knows. Who knows anything?
Is this all just lies, all of it? Is Hiroshima a sham? Or the moon walks? We saw 911, no doubts there.
The world's connectivity is bringing the entire focus closer to us. Maybe we'll all come to terms with hate and work toward peace. It appears... that the big powers are the ones to point a finger to... NO ONE is exempt. No one.
That 30 year old picture I sent hides the fact that now I look a lot like Rob Schneider.
Balderdash! Is that really you in the clouds, RMJ? I thought it was a mag pic or something. I like the way you look.
This morning it was 15 minutes ahead of the game now 5. that is definately an inprovement.
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Trying to change the subject and excuse the USSR doesn't cut it, and only makes us fall into the image that people like Coulter try to paint of us.
I don't think that's what's going on, though -- the criticism of Bush here is of his focusing on Yalta as a great mistake & slam on FDR. What Bush is doing is a vast historical oversimplification, that's all. It has nothing to with excusing Stalin.
The DVD versions of MST films allow you to watch the films without their commentary
But.....but......
Why would you WANT to ?
Trying to change the subject and excuse the USSR doesn't cut it, and only makes us fall into the image that people like Coulter try to paint of us.
Linking those things to Yalta is changing the subject. A little history, since GWPDA isn't here to lecture you:
Germany had the mightiest army on the planet. If Hitler hadn't decided to invade Russia, he might still be in power today. We defeated Germany only because Russia destroyed much of that army. Even then, we came close to not destroying the German war machine.
By the time we got to Berlin, Russia had it. They were our ally, and had sustained greater losses and done more damage to Germany than any other force in the world. And we were going to tell them to get back to their borders, and leave everything as it had been before this mess started? Stalin would have pissed himself laughing and said: "Come and take it."
And we couldn't have.
That's the ignorance I'm talking about. Bush is trying to conflate Yalta and the Cold War. We had as much of a hand in creating that, as we did in anything. Stalin's butchery is vicious, but it wasn't our responsibility, nor could we have invaded Russia, or driven them back to their borders. Had we tried, all hell really would have broken loose.
And the U.S. would have spent a half a century recovering from it, just like Europe did. Only we wouldn't have had any victorious and rich ally to bail us out, like Europe did.
More likely she was trying to embarass Poppy and clue in Junior.
There is no way even Bill Clinton could charm that ancient evil.
And Bingo was his name-o!
Make no mistake, Babs meant it as snark.
DIYMST3K is eminently possible.
So NTodd, is the daughter going to hate my guts when she gets home tonight?
Double gah; junebug in yer barefooted sneakers on a fine--till then anyway--June morning.
Triple Gah; biting into a fine open-fire burger on a manly camping trip and realizing that a couple of junebugs are in the mix. Fortunately, multiple cheap beers helped ameliorate the effects, or I would have been heaving down by the lakeside.
P.S. - Atrios, give us new thread or I will post more Hedwig lyrics. I've got Google, and I'm not afraid to use it.
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albertchampion?
Nah. Too incoherent.
Balderdash! Is that really you in the clouds, RMJ? I thought it was a mag pic or something. I like the way you look.
bigvic
It was 30 years ago. And I was thinking, I realized, of Rob Reiner.
Close, but no cigar on that joke.
NYMary--wrt Mother's Day. After 28 years of marriage, and 13 of those as a mother, you get her nice clothes hangers, because that's what she wants.
And let her stay home all day, because she never gets to.
That's romance, too.
Stupid ferret never came back with the scotch.....)
Robert M. Jeffers
You and Giblets got these Servent problems...
NYMary:
Are you saying you have what I
think you're saying you have?
I'm a little confused....
EschaMST3K party when it airs? Anyone?"
Right next to Eli, and I'll bring a cake!
I'll bring the wine.
Aw! Pete Rodino died. He was the man heading up the House impeachment proceedings against Nixon.
I think Shrub wants to piss on everything FDR did in the same idiotic way he undid everything Clinton did, helter skelter. Clinton/FDR bad, Bu$h good. What a disaster.
bigvic | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 11:06 pm | #
Which, in the case of FDR, is a total and laughable, and hopefully fatal, misread of the forces that came together to forge his party's hold on power. He's never heard of 'Reagan Democrats?'
Me, of course, I HATE Reagan Democrats, the backstabbing selfish racist morons, but boy howdy will it be fun to watch Bush and his hollow party disintegrate if he ignorantly disregards that part of his little coalition of evil.
RMJ--are you referring to the last time Dad left town?
Did you guys ever resolve those ferret drunk and disorderlies, btw?
Thanks Thersites, now I have their remake of "Well Alright" stuck in my head. Guess it could be worse....
I got yelled at for this one before: I am human and I need to be loved, just like anybody else does.
But I was excited.
Jeffers Loves Me!
(I copied that post where jeffers said he loves me and will deploy it at will for years to come.)
The Seperation of Church and Faith
By PAUL NOWELL, Associated Press Writer
Sat May 7, 7:51 PM ET
WAYNESVILLE, N.C. - A pastor who led a charge to kick out nine church members who refused to support President Bush was the talk of the town Saturday in this mountain hamlet, with ousted congregants considering hiring a lawyer. Pastor Chan Chandler greeted people at the door of tiny East Waynesville Baptist Church on Saturday evening as the church choir practiced and even welcomed them to attend services Sunday morning — if there's room inside. But he was not prepared to talk about his mixing of religion and politics."On the advice of counsel, I've been advised not to have any comment at this time," Chandler told The Associated Press. "We will have a statement later."Members of the congregation said Chandler told them during last year's presidential campaign that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry needed to leave the church.
amen! you must be going...
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albertchampion?
Nah. Too incoherent.
pie
OK, now dot's funny.
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Thank god my mom is computer
illiterate.
The whole AOL thing would kill
her, otherwise.
And we couldn't have.
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MacArther and Patton disagreed.
RMJ:
I think even Bedlam is going to be bankrupt when I get there....
I don't think so. Three more years of this crew and Bedlam will be doing a land office business the whole time. Prolly be the only solvent organization in the country.
steve,
I have *it*... and no, it's not herpes.
But I was excited.
Jeffers Loves Me!
(I copied that post where jeffers said he loves me and will deploy it at will for years to come.)
Thersites
Really have to learn to curb my enthusiasm.
But there's an entire world (literally) of experience that is not American, and ignorance of it is not only inexcusable, but dangerous.
Okay, I was camping in my RV and saw a motor home with the phrase GET R Done on it, and my red-neck neighbor has it on his truck too. What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
I remember several years ago when AIN'T SKEERED was popular on trucks and such, a take off on NO FEAR.
What the fuck is wrong with these fuckwads? Cute phrases express deep emotions? What? I'm totally lost.
ah, sorry. just put together the DIYMST3K and commentary-less DVDs.
a little distracted at the moment.
And we were going to tell them to get back to their borders, and leave everything as it had been before this mess started? Stalin would have pissed himself laughing and said: "Come and take it."
And we couldn't have.
Robert M. Jeffers | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 11:10 pm | #
Yeah, say, anybody who doesn't know that the Soviets lost as many men in the battle for Berlin as the U.S. lost in the whole fucking war,, please absent yourself from the discussion immediately.
bigvic - absolutely. The only way to build himself up is for Bush to tear down the accomplishments of others.
flory - the boy finally came inside and I'm working on some Samblogging right now.
The Seperation of Church and Faith
Do you not know how to spell a simple word?
MacArther and Patton disagreed.
Arrrggg
And thank God Ike was in charge.
Evening all. Went to a great Mother's Day party - lots of babies and dogs to play with. So happy early Mother's Day to all the fantastic moms here. You're all truly inspirational.
Hehe, Darkman is on one of the stations from Atlantic Canada that our satellite picks up. A fun Raimi outing.
So, I'm curious now - which movies would be brought to EschaCon to mock mercilessly?
I thank you Sallyh and I must admit you light up my eyes with your red hair and wisdom
RMJ,
I agree. It's all about meeting needs.
My needs tend toward punk rock, alas.
Any word on protests in the Netherlands? Our local TV led with the story - the newspapers appear silent. (Surprise, surprise)
But I was excited.
Jeffers Loves Me!
Not to worry, all is forgiven
Which has nothing to do with Yalta. Honestly, don't they teach history anymore?
The Yalta Conference, in which the Allies carved up Central Europe, had nothing to do with the Soviet Union's barbaric treatment of its client states (see also: Hungary, 1956) in the postwar period?
Are you smoking reefer, RMJ?
MacArther and Patton disagreed.
Arrrggg
And thank God Ike was in charge.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus
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Ike was a political general. As far as military analysis goes, he wasn't even in the same league as Macarther or Patton.
btw, all of this is small potatoes: Ben Affleck knocked up Jennifer Garner.
And I got this spelling problem...
btw, all of this is small potatoes: Ben Affleck knocked up Jennifer Garner.
*angelic chorus of joy*
So NTodd, is the daughter going to hate my guts when she gets home tonight?
Not if you give her stroganoff, and ice cream for dessert.
MacArther and Patton disagreed.
MacArthur, the guy who drew China into the Korean Conflict? There's a reason Ike was in charge...
OK, We all know bu$h made a provocative move to go to Soviet dominated/occupied countries first. Stupid move. Bad diplomicy. That is bad enough. At a party I attended earlier several friends said they saw reports on the regular evening news last night that Bu$ho planned to invade N. Korea or bomb that country if it tested a nukular weapon. WTF? With what? Robots? And how farking nuts are they???? Oh, don't answer.
Do you not know how to spell a simple word?
are you the troll that dare not speak his name... cuz if you are fack you!
"On the advice of counsel, I've been advised not to have any comment at this time," Chandler told The Associated Press."
Seems to me if you are going to make firm decisions based on your convictions, you should be able to defend those convictions without a lawyer.
Ike was a political general. As far as military analysis goes, he wasn't even in the same league as Macarther or Patton.
Arrrgg
So Patton sitting out D-Day was....?
Is it just me, or does the Haloscan timestamp more closely resemble reality?
Haloscan IS the new reality. We must all learn to accept it.
Ike was a political general. As far as military analysis goes, he wasn't even in the same league as Macarther or Patton.
War is an extension of politics. Read your Clausewitz, then explore Korea and Vietnam. Mac and Patton were brilliant tacticians, not strategists. They were as clumsy as Monty and having Ike was precisely what the Allies needed.
Ben Affleck knocked up Jennifer Garner.
With a baby?
I'm afraid our friend the Big Dog has been co-opted by the dark forces. Has he mentioned the war lately?
We're seriously fucked, folks. We've got nobody with any power on our side.
Have faith that the pendulum will swing, Speedy. It's easy to feel this way. I know. Big Dog is just doing what he does best...schmoozing. Maybe he and Bush1 have a real friendship. They are both smart men. Maybe they're trying to plan a way to take Junior out. I can dream, can't I?
NYMary:
Where did you get "it", if you
know what I mean.
Also: do you hate it? I say this
as somebody with all the insecurity
of a critic who's made fun of other
critics who've tried to put the shoe
on the other foot.
I mean, there are days when I think
it's a good record, and days when I
think it's lame beyond belief.
Seems to me if you are going to make firm decisions based on your convictions, you should be able to defend those convictions without a lawyer.
EkCenTriK
What? And lose that handy tax-free status? Not on your life!
I thank you Sallyh and I must admit you light up my eyes with your red hair and wisdom
And might I add, your bad SciFi loving ways.
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Okay, any bets that somewhere in the near future Putin has a major change of heart and makes up with Bush?
The Yalta Conference, in which the Allies carved up Central Europe, had nothing to do with the Soviet Union's barbaric treatment of its client states (see also: Hungary, 1956) in the postwar period?
As I said (for the last time): Russia was an ally. They held virtually everything between Berlin and the Russian border. FDR was gonna tell 'em to give it back?
Stalin would have said: "You and which Army?" And we couldn't have done it, despite the braggadocio of Patton and MacArthur.
That Yalta led to the brutalities visited on Eastern Europe, I don't deny. That FDR could have prevented that, is sheer historical ignorance.
I just got my Mother's Day gift, a Devo DVD. That's what *we're* wathcing, anyway.
NYMary/Lissadell
I got the same DVD last holiday season! Meat grinds stink on a bike! (or something like that).
Atrios, I warned you but now I must post more Hedwig lyrics. Behold!
"On nights like this
when the world's a bit amiss
and the lights go down
across the trailer park
I get down
I feel had
I feel on the verge of going mad
and then it's time to punch the clock
I put on some make-up
and turn up the tape deck
and pull the wig down on my head
suddenly I'm Miss Midwest
Midnight Checkout Queen
until I head home
and put myself to bed
I look back on where I'm from
look at the woman I've become
and the strangest things
seem suddenly routine
I look up from my Vermouth on the rocks
a gift-wrapped wig still in the box
of towering velveteen.
I put on some make-up
and some LaVern Baker
and pull the wig down from the shelf
Suddenly I'm Miss Beehive 1963
Until I wake up
And turn back to myself
Some girls they have natural ease
they wear it any way they please
with their French flip curls
and perfumed magazines
Wear it up
Let it down
This is the best way that I've found
to be the best you've ever seen"
It's almost impossible to watch this scene and not grin like an idiot.
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Blue Dragon -- (blushing): the red hair is genetic; the wisdom, nonexistent, alas.
Ben Affleck knocked up Jennifer Garner.
With a baby?
I guess hers was not a rocky place where his seed could find no purchase.
It's almost impossible to watch this scene and not grin like an idiot.
Heh. Musically, I think Sugar Daddy is my favorite.
Evening Moonbats, still fighting the good fight against a bad president and worse movies? (apparently)
DWD
Now there's a question; Is there a movie as bad as the Bush Preznitcy? It would have to be a movie so bad it could literally kill you--and twenty thousand of your closest friends.
any bets that somewhere in the near future Putin has a major change of heart and makes up with Bush?
Putin wanted Bush as preznit because he knows Shrub is a lame duck and easily manipulated. He'll make up if there is an advantage in it, but otherwise he knows there is more to be made in being the alternative pole to the US geopolitically. Economically, business as usual...
I'm working on some Samblogging right now.
Yay - saturday kitties!!
Mac and Patton were brilliant tacticians, not strategists.
MacArthur could be a decent strategist but was too full of himself to listen to constructive criticism. His biggest failing.
Did any San Antonio's know there is a Drinking Liberally location here? I didn't until just now. Found it at http://www.theredstate.typepad.com/
New to me.
That Yalta led to the brutalities visited on Eastern Europe, I don't deny. That FDR could have prevented that, is sheer historical ignorance.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 11:27 pm | #
Well, then, should you say Yalta 'led' to anything, if it merely acquiesced in the coming inevitable?
Sorry to quibble, it's just that that phraseology kind of begs to be wrongly used by the babies-with-intellectual-candy on the right.
Went to a great Mother's Day party - lots of babies and dogs to play with. So happy early Mother's Day to all the fantastic moms here. You're all truly inspirational.
Mommy, baby, doggie. Works for me! Add a good and loyal cat in there for 10 bonus points. Happy Mother's Day to all the good Mommies. Sorry for the 3 missing years when you were unwelcomened. Or 2 or 1. It does happen whether you admitt it or not.
"Did any San Antonio's"
Did any San Antonians...
Looks like it has started again. My typos that is.
I probably should say that despite my overall dislike of Clinton, I did think he did a decent job, for what it is, and I do think he genuinely gave a shit about people.
As Clinton said to a bunch of hecklers in Central Park last year, he never ever misled the people on policy.
Bush is nothing but a mis-leader.
flory - special Samblogging for you.
Huh... I would think Ben would be all sexed out after that romp with JLo...
I have to admit, I like the sound of JGar almost as much... JGar... JGarrrrrr... yeah...
I'm sorry, we were talking about the Soviet bloc, weren't we? Uhhhh, I got nothin....
George isn't going to like this:
I don't like it. Clinton was a great president in a lot of ways, but the clowns in power now were known entities back then and it a lot of ways he played and continues to play their game.
Bush is nothing but a mis-leader.
But he's a strong and decisive mis-leader!
Thersites
I tend to be suspicious. If Putin did that, Bush would soar in the ratings.
As I have somehow developed a habit of not having any fluids in my mouth while reading this place (sips beer), and for good reason as many will attest, I damn you Thersites for the moistening of my keyboard with spittle.
you had me with "New Reality" and the keyboard with "A baby"
Bastard.
.
Ah, crap. And I jut returned the Hedwig DVD to my bro. Looks like I need my own copy for nights like this.
I take it you all have seen Bush's comments about Yalta?
Yes and Bush is ignorant...and a lunatic. He compared Yalta to the Munich Pact and Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Yalta was a crime, so he says
If that little chickshit had to bargain with Uncle Joe, he'd be working the Utah uranium mines today. If Stalin so much as sneezed at him, Bush would have handed hand him Western Europe and the US Atlantic seaboard.
MacArthur could be a decent strategist but was too full of himself to listen to constructive criticism. His biggest failing.
True.
Looks like it has started again. My typos that is.
EkCenTriK
careful, there is a spell check troll about and he's got a real pug up his ass.
Of course, now that I think about it, she'll be known as JFleck, which really doesn't do anything for me. Even thought it sounds like something I'd call someone.
GIT R DONE. Come on, guys, surely you've seen this latest sign on your friendly neighborhood redneck's truck. I imagine it's now on NASCAR too. But what the fuck does it mean?
Are y'all that insulated?
Wow - my own samblogging post. I feel so special.
And what a great pic of the kitty.
We won't discuss his taste in after dinner treats.
focus
Well they will have a field day with me.
Supercool Zombies album?
That would be....??????
PLLarry, I think it's from one of the comedians on the Blue Collar gig... no idea what it means, though.
As I said (for the last time): Russia was an ally.
My head will explode if we don't accept for a fact that we were complicite in this farking arrangement. WE WERE! Have I said that my head hurts? It does. Badly.
"MacArthur could be a decent strategist but was too full of himself to listen to constructive criticism. His biggest failing."
LeMay was the same way. Seems the bigs from WWII all had tremendous egos. But then you have consider the job, the circumstances and what it did to people.
I mean, there are days when I think it's a good record, and days when I think it's lame beyond belief.
Steve - As someone who regularly read your reviews from the mid 70's to the the early 80's, can I ask you this? In retrospect, what would you say were some of your best insights, and maybe one of your regrets?
Haloscan et this one...
But there's an entire world (literally) of experience that is not American, and ignorance of it is not only inexcusable, but dangerous.
Just for the hell of it, I Googled the Seven Deadlies, and Ignorance was not one of 'em. I am at a loss as how to explain this. Why oh why would The Church not think Ignorance was A Bad Thing? A puzzler, that...
now that I think about it, she'll be known as JFleck
She's still purty.
steve, that would be Odyssey/Oracle.
LeMay was the same way. Seems the bigs from WWII all had tremendous egos. But then you have consider the job, the circumstances and what it did to people.
No argument there. And LeMay was so handy to have during the Cold War. Kinda like the Bad, Crazy Motherfucker Cop...
GIT R DONE... But what the fuck does it mean?
wait about a month and you'll start seeing stickers with "now let's do S"
I damn you Thersites for the moistening of my keyboard with spittle.
I am The Dark God of the Spittle! I demand your keyboards as my Shadowy Sacrifice!
Burp.
Did any San Antonio's know there is a Drinking Liberally location here? I didn't until just now. Found it at http://www.theredstate.typepad.com/
New to me.
EkCenTriK
New to me, too! Takes place at the Flying Saucer over at Huebner Oaks. Never been. Will consider checking it out over the summer. How 'bout you, Ek?
Yes and Bush is ignorant...and a lunatic. He compared Yalta to the Munich Pact and Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Yalta was a crime, so he says
Yes! For once a late night thread is not about crap! Although, I love talking BS as much as the next guy. Let's face it, Boosh fell on his face. The entire world has given him the middle fingure. And we as a country are humiliated by it. Not a laughing matter.
Say that reminds me, how'd you get that kid so darn fast? Me and Dot went in to adopt on account a' somethin' went wrong with my semen, and they said we had to wait five years for a healthy white baby. I said, "Healthy white baby? Five years? What else you got?" Said they got two Koreans and a negra born with his heart on the outside. It's a crazy world.
Pine Lake I found this.
http://tinyurl.com/dk7rd
"CL: What is the history of the phrase "Get-R-Done"?
Larry: I started that in a radio station in Tampa in 1990 or 1991. I'd sign off with it and people asked what it meant. It just means "what you gotta do, get her done," and when I got on TV it just took off.
CL. How would I use "Get-R-Done" in an academic context, say, for a history paper on the Soviet Union I'm writing? Would it be fair to say Reagan Got-R-Done?
Larry: Oh yeah, he definitely Got-R-Done. He totally got-r-done. You can use that for Clinton, too, only you can say he got her done. It's basically an all-American work ethic saying. Got a house to build? Get-R-Done. You can really use it any way you want to, but it started on that radio station. Ted Nugent Gets-R-Done. George Strait Gets-R-Done."
FeralLibrul:
Oh god, there are so many things
from back then I wish I could
retract....
but my biggest goof was the Ramones.
I totally didn't get them until
like the third album.
I wanna cringe when I read what I
wrote about them early.
Ike was a political general. As far as military analysis goes, he wasn't even in the same league as Macarther or Patton.
Arrrggg
Wow, this is funnier than a barrel of John Birchers forced into giving fequalist Klintoon™ sloppy jailhouse BJs. Guess what, goof - the USSR was stronger than we were, militarily, at the end of WWII. Might be hard to understand, but if we'd engaged in troll-style realpolitik in May of 1945, the Soviets would have been in Paris faster than you could say "Joe's your uncle."
The Soviet Army in 1945 was not the Soviet Army of 1940. Patton was guilty of the same mental mistakes as Hitler.
"You might feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride! Pride only hurts . . . it never helps."
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I have to confess, my WWII history is not good. Yalta was obviously an imperfect alliance, but it was wise given what we had to work with, no? Is there something I'm missing here?
wow, sorry I missed tonight's discussion on how the Red Army beat the Nazi's, along with bridge-dweller Toby Putz declaiming on Social Insecurity.
that'll teach me to grille steaks .
without Zhukov we would all be living in camps right now. all hail Zhukov!
If Putin did that, Bush would soar in the ratings.
What does he care about that? Anyway, even that could help him: Russia as the last bastion against the US as unhinged superpower. The US is isolated as never before, ever. It's a dangerous situation, and Putin is bastard enough to exploit it.
wait about a month and you'll start seeing stickers with "now let's do S"
LOL!
"No argument there. And LeMay was so handy to have during the Cold War. Kinda like the Bad, Crazy Motherfucker Cop...
NTodd"
Maybe or maybe not. My Dad had to tussle with him and his staff at one time. Its a long story and I am still not clear on everything. But basically Lemay had an Idea, put it into action, wasn't working. Dad got sent to evaluate, sent a negative report. LeMay staff held him in place, under arrest, threatening his continued time in the military unless he changed report. Of course, Dad would not do that. Opposing General pulled Dad out of that situation and kept him far far away.
I have to confess, my WWII history is not good. Yalta was obviously an imperfect alliance, but it was wise given what we had to work with, no? Is there something I'm missing here?
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 11:45 pm | #
Mary, Yalta wasn't where we forged the alliance with the USSR, which alliance of course WAS wise, under the circumstances. Yalta came years later, at nearly the end of the war, a conference betw. the erstwhile allies, where the postwar world was discussed.
Thersites, I saw your photo over at atriots. You are one ugly motherfucker.
That and boring make a poor combination.
The quibbling over words this late at night gets old. But let's pay attention to what Bush said:
``We will not repeat the mistakes of other generations, appeasing or excusing tyranny, and sacrificing freedom in the vain pursuit of stability,'' the president said. ``We have learned our lesson; no one's liberty is expendable. In the long run, our security and true stability depend on the freedom of others.''
Bush singled out the 1945 Yalta agreement signed by Roosevelt in a speech opening a four-day trip focused on Monday's celebration in Moscow of the 60th anniversary of Nazi Germany's defeat.
Yalta was about appeasement? Damn. first I'd heard of that. Never realized FDR belonged in the same class as Neville Chamberlain.
Please. This statement is indefensible. End of story.
Finally saw Sin City tonight. Awesome!
Love the scene where the Senator is telling Bruce Willis about power. Power is not in a gun. Power is getting people to go along with you even though they know you're telling whoppers.
And Elijah Wood as a cannibalistic freak who beats the hell out of Mickey Rourke? Hilarious.
Clive Owen is simply devine in black and white. Steely eyed and deep fried.
EkCenTriK - I was snarking, well, 'cept for the Bad, Crazy Motherfucker Cop part. I'm amazed we survived the Cold War during his tenure...
Did any San Antonio's know there is a Drinking Liberally location here? I didn't until just now.
I started a chapter in my home town and it has been a very rewarding experience. Check it out when you travel, as well. Each week we get a few "drop ins" A good thing. Great way for out - of towners and lonley hearts to make new friends, too .
4morewars,
Right. But why is Bush slamming Yalta? Because of the carving involved? (Of course, we had some sense of what Stalin was then, but he was still necessary.) Is this merely his bullshit unilaterism carried to its extreme? Unilateralism would have killed us in WWII.
Thersites....
Zzzzzzzzz........
Right. But why is Bush slamming Yalta? Because of the carving involved? (Of course, we had some sense of what Stalin was then, but he was still necessary.) Is this merely his bullshit unilaterism carried to its extreme? Unilateralism would have killed us in WWII.
Because no country that could potentially threaten us should ever be allowed to survive.
Does anyone really believe that Bush actually thinks??? Or feels that he needs to?
RMJ,
If you were looking for a reason to explode my head, stop. You found it. Kabooooooom.
Okay, NTodd. That recipe for Stroganoff was...
Delicious. Beyond delicious. A virtual orgasm for the tongue.
No argument there. And LeMay was so handy to have during the Cold War. Kinda like the Bad, Crazy Motherfucker Cop...
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 11:41 pm | #
Teddy White, in MOTP '68, said Wallace's pick of LeMay was the most inexplicable decision of the campaign. Wallace's run based on his being a down to earth man of the people, what was he doing, White wanted to know, choosing the general the average WWII vet hated with a passion.
Zhukov's defense of Leningrad was pretty good, but Moscow was better, and Stalingrad was best.
all hail Zhukov and the heroic sacrifices and ultimate victory of the Red Army over the fascists.
Delicious. Beyond delicious. A virtual orgasm for the tongue.
Stroganoff should always have that effect.
Gotta go, all.
Wang chung in my absence.
I love you all more than food!!!!
NYMary - check out the snip RMJ cited. Bush needs to tear down FDR's post-war decisions to justify his own, not to mention justify his war(s) in the first place. It's a weird juxtaposition: FDR fought a war for freedom, but apparently squandered everything at Yalta for some silly "stability" thing.
Rest assured Bush won't make that mistake. He'll keep a'warrin' until the entire world is free. It's all good.
Delicious. Beyond delicious. A virtual orgasm for the tongue.
Like Meg Ryan in When Harry Met Sally?
Because no country that could potentially threaten us should ever be allowed to survive.
Eli
Riiiiiiiight, even retroactively. "We should heve seen into the future. If only we'd said 'get your commie asses out of Germany you, you, you war winners!', we could have avoided the whole cold war."
Ah, I understand now.
Insofar as this domestic "special relationship" is true, Big Dog can kiss my motherfucking ass.
I wanna cringe when I read what I wrote about them early.
OK but give me one where it turned out you really were ahead of the curve.
Is there something I'm missing here?
You're not missing anything, Mary. If Stalin had wanted, he could have taken Iran, Greece, Austria and Europe to the Rhone River-for starters. Luckily, he had some respect and trust in Roosevelt, who was a committed anti-fascist.
I think Churchill had a hand in Yalta too. I think the British may react unkindly to this 'dis on their WWII icon, ya think?
I wonder what Putin is going to do to Bush on Monday? That's a fairly egregious insult, worth declaring Bush persona non grata.
Stroganoff should always have that effect.
There's a joke about sour cream in there somewhere, but the Benadryl I took is starting to hit me something awful. Eli, I leave it in your capable hands.
Heh.
Lapsing into 'meta'- mode, I ask: is it an indicator of the rightwing nutbag agenda that we're actually debating such things as FDR's social security and his actions at Yalta?
These regressive goons won't be happy until we're debating about the Missouri Compromise. For a little piece of shit like Bush to cast aspersions on the political compromises FDR made at Yalta is just unbelievable. Hey, Georgie, how about doing one of your tours where you personally urinate on a WWII vet while singing a catchy tune about "The Greatest Generation?"
When I was a sprout and a moderate Republican, I thought people like my FDR-hatin' Great Uncle were destined for the dustbin of history. What kind of degenerate philosophy brings them back?
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Big Dog, all right, sniffin' the crotch of Kinnebunkport and likin' it.
nur,
good point. Uncle Joe basically told the Greek communists they were on their own. they went for it anyway, but without a doubt, the Red Army could have walked into both Athens and Tehran. that they didn't is testament to FDR's tact and skill.
Because no country that could potentially threaten us should ever be allowed to survive.
Fortunately Bush is investing 2 Trillion dollars into a Manhattan Project-esque effort to develop a time machine so he can personally go back and kick Stalin's ass. I'm hopeful that terrorists will seize the device and go back to put a condom on George Senior's cock on one fateful evening...
san antone rose,
Drinking Liberally is the place to be. Most are just hangouts for war weary liberals to find a home in. A place to have a beer and bitch. And discuss activisim. I love it, personally.
san antone rose
I am thinking about. I am a hell of a social introvert in real time until I get comfortable with people. Then they usually want me to shut up. But the other thing is I have no idea who that site is and I noticed there was not much activity. It may be because it is new so maybe we should fling a bit of time his way. But I am lousy on local politics, don't ask me what I didn't do today, it is embarrassing.
"I am thinking about it"
Right. But why is Bush slamming Yalta? Because of the carving involved?
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 05.07.05 - 11:52 pm | #
Because Stalin's takeover of E. Eur., was not allowed the inevitability it merited, by the armchair Nazis of the American right. THEY would've stopped him. Oh, yeah. Just because it wasn't true, didn't mean they couldn't feed their followers the raw meat of 'Democratic betrayal.'
Of a piece with the McCarthyist line that the commieloving Democrats had 'lost China.'
Neanderthal crap. The kind of stuff Nixon and friends reveled in in the '50's. Then, on assuming the 'respectable statesman' mantle, quietly disavowed it. And, amazingly, the current idiot to end all idiots thinks he can resurrect without consequences.
These regressive goons won't be happy until we're debating about the Missouri Compromise.
At least they're not bringing up Dred Scott! Oh, wait...
There's a joke about sour cream in there somewhere, but the Benadryl I took is starting to hit me something awful. Eli, I leave it in your capable hands.
I don't have much luck with the sour cream unless it's my own stroganoff.
Damn you Thers!!!
It was the *burp* that did it.
Clean the farkin' monitor.....again.
Sallyh:
Will you share your orgasmic stroganoff?
sallyh:
The recipe I mean
Of a piece with the McCarthyist line that the commieloving Democrats had 'lost China.'
It's going to be so sweet when we can say Bush lost Afghanistan and Iraq and North Korea and Iran and Syria and Israel and the United States...
some bawdy late night "humor"...
NTodd--link your stroganoff recipe again, please...I failed to print it last time (printer problem) and Flory needs the recipe.
My brother always calls it beef-strokin'-off.
I wonder what Putin is going to do to Bush on Monday? That's a fairly egregious insult, worth declaring Bush persona non grata.
Nur al-Cubicle - 11:58 pm
It's this Monday they're meeting? Oh. Great. Something to look forward to.
Not a fan of Putin, but I sure hope he rips Georgie a new one.
Well all the pet theories these people are putting out are nice. The Soviets already had the keys to the bomb by dint of espionage. I am not clear on when they detonated their first, but consider that China and the Soviet repectively held terroritories that pale next to anything we have waged war on in the past. China alone out mans us by several magnitudes, not sure about Russia at this time. There is only one way to wage a war against either one of these entities. And I think we all know it is complete folly to do so. So these little buzzards can push and pull, they either will own up to the fact or they are simply insane.
I love America. I'll set off fireworks and march to John Phillip Sousa until my damn legs fall off. I'll quote Paine, Jefferson, and Franklin to the bitter end.
That said, here's a headline I'm just dying to see: "France, Germany, and Russia Join Forces, Say 'Fuck You' to Bush."
Damn. Am I a traitor for hoping other nations stop the fucking madness?
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Since we are discussing Bush and his new found desire to restart the Cold War, I added my $.02 at my homepage.
It really just highlights the fools that we have for leaders these days.
Ferchrissakes, if we didn't already have enough to fear, with Georgie threatening Iran and North Korea, he wants to restart the whole nuclear arms race with a new Soviet Union.
Ultimately, if he keeps this up, Putin is going to feel the need to recreate the "buffer" that the Soviet states provided Mother Russia from western Europe.
Then, there will have to be a "deterrent", which the US will have to be able to counter, etc, etc, etc
LOL! So now you losers find yourselves trying to defend FDR and what that appeasing old cripple did at Yalta. Give it up, that old socialist sold out millions of people either because he was weak or didn't want to come to blows with this a guy who was his political brother in spirit.
So, if you're a Star Wars fanatic, and you worship George W. Bush, after watching Episode III... what happens? Does your head explode?
NTodd's Orgasm-inducing Stroganoff.
some bawdy late night "humor"...
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 05.08.05 - 12:06 am | #
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...fascinating...more like that!
Nur-al--I still believe that Clinton considers his strategy with the Bushes to be just that. Clinton's a sly fellow. His performance in Rome revealed to me something of what he has in mind.
"That said, here's a headline I'm just dying to see: "France, Germany, and Russia Join Forces, Say 'Fuck You' to Bush"
I would prefer a euphemism instead, just to show creativity at that point on their parts.
Not a fan of Putin, but I sure hope he rips Georgie a new one.
I particularly like when he ridicules W's "democracy" bona-fides.
4morewars:
And, amazingly, the current idiot to end all idiots thinks he can resurrect without consequences.
Remember, this is the same idiot who decided we needed a 'do-over' on Poppy's decision not to go to Baghdad. Since that worked out so well, why not a do-over on Yalta? I'm sure Unka Karl has a whole list in his desk.
Bush is so deluded, he has to go after a dead president to make his case.
"That appeasing old cripple"?
Gotta be a parody troll.
Bush is so deluded, he has to go after a dead president to make his case.
And why not? He's been chasing after dead presidents his whole life.
Does the Star Wars fanaticism, or the Bush fanaticism win? I'm so curious.
Funny, the pathetic troll splattered over an earlier thread to the effect that winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.
Say hello to FDR, your four times elected daddy, bitch.
"I would prefer a euphemism instead, just to show creativity at that point on their parts."
The Europeans have already proven that they can do nuance. I'm not worried about their phraseology.
it wouldn't matter--Bush et al so do not get it.
Moose:
Am I a traitor for hoping other nations stop the fucking madness?
I'll be the judge of that once you explain how our [allies] are going to stop our "madness."
So when is Bush going to challenge FDR to a townhall-style debate? And when FDR fails to show, will he declare victory?
"That appeasing old cripple"?
Gotta be a parody troll.
NYMary | Email | Homepage | 05.08.05 - 12:12 am | #
Oh noooo, Mary, I have rw acquaintances who indulge in 'cripple' remarks when the argument gets to be about FDR.
Class, class, class. All of it third.
SNL Weekend Update: "This weekend, Tony Blair was re-elected to a third time as George Bush's bitch."
Ultimately, if he keeps this up, Putin is going to feel the need to recreate the "buffer" that the Soviet states provided Mother Russia from western Europe.
thanks to chimpy mcsmirk, i'm pretty sure that buffer will BE western europe.
NTodd/Sallyh:
thanks for the recipe.
QC:
What do you think the chances are that art exhibit is ever shown in this country?
Third *term*. Dang.
I am a hell of a social introvert in real time until I get comfortable with people.
You would not ever be a wallflower in my group. We send out so much comfort and acceptance that you would reel.I kid you not. My gang of friends have a saying that the worsts thing any of us have ever said while drunk is, "WE LOVEYOU GUYS!!!" It is the truth.
Bush can start taking issue with Yalta once he apologises on behalf of his grandpappy's bidness with the Nazis. The fuckhead.
Ooooo! pseudonymous! Good call! I forgot that cheerful moment of history.
I'll be the judge of that once you explain how our [allies] are going to stop our "madness."
Well, by not fucking you, for starters. But that applies to Americans as well. Not to mention mortal enemies.
Good night in with Mistress Palm and her five handmaidens, Tobes?
It's really time for the revolution, folks:
4 Forms of ID to Be Required for Drivers' Licenses Under RealID
This is fucked up beyond belief.
Big Dog, all right, sniffin' the crotch of Kinnebunkport and likin' it.
Nur al-Cubicle
More like 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer'. Only one Earth resident bumped GHW off his second term, and served one of his own: The Man.
IMPORTANT POST!!!!
Here, I go where even attaturk, Holden, watertiger, NTidd, heartless blogwhores all, have never yet dared to thread:
This is a Comment Whore for something I wrote at another blog.
It is no ordinary comment I hereby whore: it is a supremely tasteless and profane comment, here, appended to a post at Dependable Renegade.
I hope you all support my pioneering work in the burgeoning field of blogwhore studies.
Thank you.
I have rw acquaintances who indulge in 'cripple' remarks when the argument gets to be about FDR.
Calling Bob Dole 'Senator Spazz-Arm Stiffdick' might create the right retributive outrage.
Bush can start taking issue with Yalta once he apologises on behalf of his grandpappy's bidness with the Nazis. The fuckhead.
No, see, that was okay because really that helped keep Stalin in check. We should be thankful to grampa Prescott for the freedoms we enjoy today--were it not for his brave, bold action, we'd be living under the Iron Thumb of Communism.
Thersites--just so long as I don't have to give you any money for it
4 Forms of ID to Be Required for Drivers' Licenses Under RealID
And yet 'ability to drive' will not be required.
(Until not too long ago, British driving licences didn't have a photograph on them. Because they're not fucking IDs.)
One of the coolest things happened to me tonite.
Just got back from a night out.
Anyone here ever been in a situation where you and your spouse are sitting at a restaurant when you get up to use the restroom and come back to see someone hitting on them?
Tonite was the third time in as many years. There were two settings at the table so it's not like the asshole didn't know there was someone else. What's also interesting is that I was at least 4 inchs taller and easily twice his size. Of course he had his flunky with him so that probably made him bold.
When I got back from the rr I saw the man leaning on the table learing down on my wife while she was trying to eat. A dirty shitstain grin on his face. I walked up as if I was none the wiser and asked if they knew each other. The guys over at me then turns his attention back on my wife without saying a word, as if he didn't think I mattered. The longer I stood there the longer the flunky kept is eyes on me. My wife never said a word. She just ignored him while he talked.
This was obviously not the response he was hoping for so he reached down and sort of stopped her from lifting her fork up to her mouth.
That was the last straw at that point.
I grabbed the guy by the shoulder andjerked him around. His flunky spun around him and tried to grab me as the restaurant management comes up and asks if there is any trouble.
Trouble was he didn't ask me, he asked the asshole. The asshole said I was getting in his face while he was trying to be sociable. The manager starts to chastise me for doing so until I tell him this was my wife and this was our table. The manager still didn't seem to understand cause he acted like I was lying.
My wife, still sitting and acting like she was enjoying the whole exchange gets up and stands right between the two of us. She grabs the guy in the groin, lets go, grabs mine next, lets go. She then takes my arm into hers and says..
"No contest. Let's go love."
We walked out and I didn't pay for the meal either(though mine was only halfway done)
My wife kicks ass!
MYOB'
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Pseudonymous--I didn't have an ID license until 1979.
were it not for his brave, bold action, we'd be living under the Iron Thumb of Communism.
...and yet Chimpy is sitting on the Brass Thumb of Cheney.
Yeah, I suppose I kinda fucked up the whole Yalta thing. But I was sick, and Uncle Joe said to trust him.
MYOB--indeed, your wife does.
It is no ordinary comment I hereby whore: it is a supremely tasteless and profane comment, here, appended to a post at Dependable Renegade.
And then ya went and got Eli started....
Is there no shame?
Hey, Toby: pretending to be FDR's sixty-year-dead corpse won't get you laid any faster.
But I am lousy on local politics, don't ask me what I didn't do today, it is embarrassing.
EkCenTriK
Whaaaa? You didn't vote today? Well, don't feel bad. I almost didn't get to. Had to work all day today (last day of the semester and all) and barely managed to squeeze in the time early this morning right before work. Luckily there were no lines at my district polling place so I breezed right through.
So now it's down to Hardberger (I call him mr. firm and meaty) and Castro in a run-off election.
But yes, for some reason it is harder to pay attention to local elections than it is to state and federal elections.
Thersites - you are a giant among whores...
Lovely prose has been made,(Hahahahahah) but at the end of the day:
Bush is a fool and the entire world knows it. Quite simple.
Hasn't been said in a while:
FUCK BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!
How come Winston "Anti-Semite" Churchhill doesn't get any Yalta blame?
4 Forms of ID to Be Required for Drivers' Licenses Under RealID
The you sure don't want to be driving in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California...how many millions of unlicenced, uninsured drivers is this going to produce. Sheesh, how is a highschool kid going to get a permit?
Nur-al--what do kids need licenses for? They're supposed to die in overseas adventures, anyway.
It's an Eschatonian miracle! Once again, Avestus and Toby show up to work their trollerific magic in tandem.
LOL! So now you losers find yourselves trying to defend FDR and what that appeasing old cripple did at Yalta.
(full on, moronic crabby grandmpa mode. No mention of alternatives.)
I'll be the judge of that once you explain how our [allies] are going to stop our "madness.
trollby putzmold
("reasonable," oh where have all of the real Dems that voted for Thurmond in 48 gone mode)
Real simple explanation, Trollby. They get tired of Georgie's brand of bullshit and say "we've had enough, and we're not going to let you shit on the world. You may be the strongest nation in the world, but the other 126 of us think your run is over."
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Until not too long ago, British driving licences didn't have a photograph on them. Because they're not fucking IDs.
In Vermont you have to pay 5 bucks extra for a photo ID. As recently as 1996, I still used my old photo-less license, which caused many a rental car clerk much mirth.
I'm not getting your remarks, pseudonymous.
Although you have reminded me of an old inside-stoner joke I used to share with some friends about our having a Herve Villachaise Corpse Bong (with the carb being a hole in its skull).
Of course, Sallyh. No military service, no licence to drive.
Bigvic, appreciate that, there is a story in the family when my wife and I were still dating. She had a party and I didn't know a soul except for her. She complained that I was hangin so close to her all evening that people were beginning to think we were siamese twins.
Rose, it went to a run off? Wow. I sort of gave up on local politics a long time ago. Our local government is worthy of a one horse town. We really need to change the type of government we have to something a bit more professional, until then it is more like a student council. I thought Henry was the best thing we had going, but he boogied out of here too fast after implementing some major changes and trends and didn't see them through. That is about the time the developers became the shadow government we have here.
...my biggest goof was the Ramones.
I totally didn't get them until
like the third album.
I wanna cringe when I read what I
wrote about them early.
You'll notice I've always had the good taste to never, ever bring that up, even though I did read some of that.
But you weren't alone - nearly all the rock press was anti-"punk". It was really the equivalent of a civil war back then...
Thersites - you are a giant among whores...
NTodd
and he has a 42 foot mummy...or a two foot fouray... or some shit like that?
oh Absolute, is there no problem that you cannot distort, minimize, and eventually vanquish?
Pudding:
Real simple explanation, Trollby. They get tired of Georgie's brand of bullshit and say "we've had enough, and we're not going to let you shit on the world. You may be the strongest nation in the world, but the other 126 of us think your run is over."
Yeah, that is a simple explanation. Is there any precedent for such a thing beyond your masturbatory wish that it were so?
You may be the strongest nation in the world, but the other 126 of us think your run is over.
China especially. India, too. And coming in third, the European Union. It's gonna be a shitty century for American hegemony.
Hmmm was just thinking, I wonder what europe really thinks about Bush's provocation. And Rummy wants to pull all those troops out of europe.
NTodd--they should pay you $5 to put that gorgeous mug on your license...
(ducks)
NTodd - I have almost exactly the same recipe for my stroke n' off.
I used stew meat the last time and it works so well!
My recipe calls for 2 Tbsp of flour mixed with salt and pepper and paprika, sprinkled over meat and the stirred in the crockpot. Then stir in one can of cream of mushroom. Add onion soup mix and 1/2 cup of water. Stir everything together until the vision of meat and gray soup slop makes you want to retch. Then cover and cook for 6-8 hours on low. 10 minutes before it's done, add sour cream and parsley. I like to serve over rice, too. Although stirring in wheat corkscrew noodles is yummy as well.
I always loved the Roast over Rice in the school cafeteria. Roaches over Lice. Mmmm.
At a party I attended earlier several friends said they saw reports on the regular evening news last night that Bu$ho planned to invade N. Korea or bomb that country if it tested a nukular weapon.
-bigvic. 11:22
oh god.
We do actually have troops there. Don't know how many. Not enough.
What does Georgie think China will do? Stand aside and watch?
It's gonna be a shitty century for American hegemony.
Worst. Century. Ever. Bet on it.
EkCenTrik--in recent years, when I'm with Europeans and something related to Bush or his ilk comes up, they just shake their heads.
I'm not as down on FDR as some here are. I don't think he was in any real position to deny Stalin his due, especially when one considers the fact that the occupation of Eastern Europe was a fait accompli by the time of Yalta. We weren't about to pull a Patton and swing around to take on the Red Army. That's just a pipe dream.
SNL's "mom" jokews are pretty good tonight.
licence for everyone.
"Worst. Century. Ever. Bet on it."
And we're off to a roaring start.
Like I'm saying, EkC,
I would welcome you with welocme arms. Peace out. A good sleep to all. Peace out.
That is about the time the developers became the shadow government we have here.
EkCenTriK
So...how do you feel about K&B homebuilders?
Sallyh
I understand that, but I am looking at the fear that must be wandering around a few minds. This man is putting into place a complete furball if it heats up. Maybe little tierra del feugo will sleep easy, but that is about it.
Avestus is just upset we didn't side with the Nazis.
SNL's "mom" jokews are pretty good tonight.
I liked Will Forte's bizarrely morbid serenade to his mother, about how much he would miss her when she died. Her reactions were priceless...
What does Georgie think China will do? Stand aside and watch?
Tremble before his righteous wrath?
Yeah, that is a simple explanation. Is there any precedent for such a thing beyond your masturbatory wish that it were so?
Quinn:
What does Georgie think China will do? Stand aside and watch?
Here's your big chance to do what no other anti-Bush Leftist has the stones to, Quinn: explain how Bush was supposed to have already "dealt" with Kim without tripping the nuclear wire.
You'll be the first, you know. Get to it!
"So...how do you feel about K&B homebuilders?
san antone rose "
You know I was practicing for drinking liberally when I read that. You almost killed me with beer up the nose.
You mean the new version of Ray Ellison Industries?
Seebach:
Avestus is just upset we didn't side with the Nazis.
So was Turd Kennedy's old man.
Yeah, that is a simple explanation. Is there any precedent for such a thing beyond your masturbatory wish that it were so?
Let's try that again:
It has already begun.
Also, Ek, I live about 2 miles from where the new NSA compound is going in.
I haven't decided whether this is good for my property value or bad.
EkCenTrik--you're right about that.
Yeah, that is a simple explanation. Is there any precedent for such a thing beyond your masturbatory wish that it were so?
Toby Petzold
Study some history, mook. Napoleon, circa 1812. Hitler, circa 1939. I realize that in your comfy little world Murkan hegemony just roolz, but nations tend to take a rather defensive view of a nation with too much power.
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So was Turd Kennedy's old man.
Indeed. Joseph Kennedy was a war profiteer. As was Prescott Bush. And IBM. And Coca-Cola.
Not all of us have our head up our ass when it comes to criticizing our "side".
flory, walnut recipe for sourdough waffles etc:
2 qt water
5 oz walnut halves (1-1/3 C)
1 C sugar
1 C peanut oil
Bring water to boil in medium pan over high heat. Add nuts and boil 7 minutes (give or take...). Blend in sugar, stirring occasionally, til amost dry, approx 1=1/2 hrs, reducing heat toward end of cooking time to prevent burning. Remove nuts from heat and drain. Heat oil in wok or large skillet to approx 350 degrees (hi-medium). Fry nuts 4 minutes. Remove and drain on paper towels. Discard oil, allow nuts to cool and dry. Should be crisp.
Quinn: explain how Bush was supposed to have already "dealt" with Kim without tripping the nuclear wire.
oh that's too easy-in fact it's a slam dunk...
Sallyh:
You watchiing this earthquake fiasco? If I wasn't chatting with you fine folks, I'd have a hard time keeping my eyes open.
Why is anybody surprised? They are both moderate Republicans.
Thersites - you are a giant among whores...
Tonight, I learn... I am the Dark God of Whores and Spittle!
Eh. It's a living.
Anyone else notice that Toby is stupid and ugly and nobody likes him?
Worst Century Ever. Who can challenge that? And what an accomplishment.
But, rage.
Has anyone made a porn movie yet called Beef Strokin' Off?
eli,
loved it. the refrain, to die for.
I assume that was his real Mom.
good Mom jokes tonight, between all the iPod ads
san antone rose
It will be great for you, cept maybe traffic. I have no problem with the NSA or any of our agencies of stealth. It is some of the individuals in government that put them in a bad way.
Want to know what China is up to?
Go here.
Elaine Supkis's Blog
Elaine knows a lot about this.
explain how Bush was supposed to have already "dealt" with Kim without tripping the nuclear wire.
By ensuring that the DPRK got the fuel oil and LWR as part of the AF. Granted, Clinton didn't press the issue as he should've, but Bush clearly blundered by stopping oil shipments in a petulant reaction to Kim's usual rattling of his cage. Calling him a pygmy and having Bolton with his bellicose talk didn't help.
So failed diplomacy led directly to the DPRK withdrawing from the NPT and to our current impasse. What's more, US insistence on multiparty talks when Kim is only afraid of us (learning the lessons of Iraq) is insane. Bush and his crew of tone deaf psychopaths refuse to understand the cultural and historical context of the situation and think that swagger will win the day. Dumbdumbdumb.
explain how Bush was supposed to have already "dealt" with Kim without tripping the nuclear wire.
Is Toby too stupid to explain the history of Korea's "nuclear wire"?
I bet yes. He is also ugly and nobody likes him.
OT, but for all you Cold War afficianadoes, here's your site of the day.
Check out the streaming MP3 link on the left for that late-night trance thang...
Worst Century Ever. Who can challenge that? And what an accomplishment.
Don't even get me started on what happens in 2031. And 2048. And 2072... that one will turn your hair white.
Flory--even I had to give up on that. Of course, we're now watching 'The Man in the Iron Mask.' In French.
I've seen this movie way, way too many times. However, Monsieur likes it, and he is in charge of the remote.
NTodd--you may not believe this, but the girl just called to apologize to me...and she apologized for sniping at the bf too.
NTodd
Good deal on that remark. It sure comes off as an ego contest.
Those are only partial examples, Pud. You're saying the whole world is going to somehow come together and kick Uncle Sam's ass.
What did Rome say of Greece? "We've taken captive our fierce conqueror."
The only way the rest of the world's going to get rid of us is to become us.
Indeed. Joseph Kennedy was a war profiteer. As was Prescott Bush. And IBM. And Coca-Cola.
Yup, my dad's former company, good ole Itsy Bitsy Machines, helped the Nazis keep those cattle cars running on time...
Ray Ellison. I hate those crackerbox houses with a passion. Even more I hate their crappy fences they put around all their subdivisions. I've even started hating the colors black and yellow.
All I see everytime a new subdiv goes up in what used to be a ranch or field is "they are never gonna be able to resell those houses."
Roofs are already starting to sink in, fences rotting, and that's a 2-3 year old neighborhood.
Funniest story I ever read is about a group of concerned K&B homebuyers who went to Henry Cisneros's office demanding to talk to him. He's on the board for K&B, or was. Thought they could just walk right in and demand satisfaction! My heart goes out to them, but damn. They were turned away.
well, pie, are you also a boner? a spook?
line by line, highlight that purported incoherence, please.
all ears, all eyes
Remember when "President" Tipsy McStagger was giggling over Kerry's plan to deal with Korea? How the voices in his ear told him to say Kerry was gonna put us knee deep in a nuclear war? How Tipsy was gonna show them slant-eyes who's boss? Good times, good times...
"The only way the rest of the world's going to get rid of us is to become us."
Sometimes, the delusions become too much for me to ignore.
Anyone else notice that Toby is stupid and ugly and nobody likes him?
hooray, fake Thersites is gone, authentic Thers is here.
better than Irv the Perv
"...several friends said they saw reports on the regular evening news last night that Bu$ho planned to invade N. Korea or bomb that country if it tested a nukular weapon."
It's not that I'm questioning you Bigvic but Bush has enough military advisors around him 24/7 able to warn him against this. North Korea is not Afghanistan or Iraq. They are not a country having spent the last 10 years under sanctions having their military degraded. North Korea has spent the last 50 years since the end of the korean war digging in. They would not be a cakewalk. Attacking them would spell ruin for South Korea. The north has one the largest, most advanced artillary units in the world. Designed solely to rain death down upon the south should they or the U.S attack them. This artillary system is maintained in a vast, hardened tunnel network that spans for miles and miles and would make Osama choke. The moment we attacked, bombed, etc, they can deploy their artillary, fire several rounds, and retreat back underground before the U.S could calculate their location.
Bush would be no longer be just an idiot, but an insane idiot if he did started an attack. The civilian casualties in the south would be catastrophic. There is no way the people of South Korea would ever forgive us.
North Korea is simply looking for attention. That is all. They would never attack us unless we attacked them first. And they would never attack the south again because they know we'd counter.
MYOB'
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sd:
thanks much.
I appear to have hit the recipe trifecta today.
Yeah, well, its the only trifecta I hit today....
The only way the rest of the world's going to get rid of us is to become us.
Not exactly. See, we're going to collapse, like the Soviet Union. Then people aren't really going to need to kick our asses.
I have no idea why a name stealer would clog this site, but some dumbass has.
Night, moonbats. From here on, it is all fake. Peace.
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The only way the rest of the world's going to get rid of us is to become us.
Toby Petzold"
At the rate we are going, we are going to do it to ourselves.
Not all of us have our head up our ass when it comes to criticizing our "side".
Seebach
This always hits my funny bone. What, we're supposed to defend "Bootlegger Joe" just because his name happened to be Kennedy?
Note to trollz: Bobby Kennedy's political beliefs probably made his old man shit bricks on a regular basis.
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The only way the rest of the world's going to get rid of us is to become us.
Bring 'em on!
We all know how that all worked out....
NTodd:
Bush clearly blundered by stopping oil shipments in a petulant reaction to Kim's usual rattling of his cage.
I like how you think Kim is allowed to be abusive and threatening, but it's far too reminiscent of Bill Richardson's pussified rationalizations of Kim's undiplomatic behavior.
By the way, apologists for Imperial Japan said the same thing you just did of Roosevelt's decision to cut off Japan's oil and metals. They said we brought the War on ourselves when we did that.
Another stroganoff recipe.
Joey's Stroganoff
Use chuck or flank steak. Marinate in beer, 1/2 t dry mustard, 1 clove crushed garlic, some ground pepper.
Cut meat in chunks or strips (strips preferred, and can get better thinness by semi-freezing first, use good knife!), put in bag w/flour, paprika, savory salt and pepper. Toss to cover.
Put meat in hot oil in pan w/some of flour and stir as meat browns to make gravy base. After meat browns, throw in chopped onions and sliced mushrooms. When that's cooked and brown as well, pour in some marinade to make thicker sauce. Cool down. Add sour cream,, then re-heat through w/out boiling. Serve over flat noodles w/paprika tast. And, oh, yeah, use twice as many mushrooms as onions.
For example:
1-1/2 lbs meat
Marinade: beer, 1/2 t dry mustard, 1 crushed clove of garlic, savory salt & pepper
Oil
1-1/2 C sliced mushrooms
3/4 C chopped onion
Sourcream (you just have to go w/taste buds for this part)
Boiled noodles
Pud:
Note to trollz: Bobby Kennedy's political beliefs probably made his old man shit bricks on a regular basis.
Well. That makes up for everything.
...well, its the only trifecta I hit today....
Tell me about it!
Of course, if you did hit it, you'd be nearly 1 million clams ahead... unfuckingbelievable!
Speaking of Korean nukers, here's a short post from way early in my blogging career: Why States Seek to Acquire Nuclear Weapons.
Rose, Ellsion is forever damned in our family. We had one, everything happened to it. I can remember nights laying awake in pure panic mode. Slab damage, termite damage, roof damage and it goes on and on and on.
Bush is already sowing the seeds of the US's collapse. It's really not going to be pretty. Make sure you're out of debt.
ok...night night all.
see you tamale.
Toby (p)is my penis.
Just sayin'.
Worship the chi-square, fine folks:
Americans Recoil from Torture (but unfortunately, most of them don't know we're doing it as policy)
Oh! NTodd! thank you for the beef stroganoff recipe!
san antone, I'm buying me a house this month. I went around to look at some of those KB Homes just east of Austin and I could almost visualize with open eyes block after block of Section 8 slums about ten years after. Scary!
Not exactly. See, we're going to collapse, like the Soviet Union. Then people aren't really going to need to kick our asses.
Seebach
Exactly, and that's what really fing sucks. Bush and his goons have managed to transition the hope of Democracy into some kind of also-run Empire For Idiots.
When I was a small sprout, I thought we could make a difference in the world. This ain't the kind of difference I envisioned.
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sallyh - console yourself that there is literary merit to Monsieur's choice.
Earthquake - negative merit points.
Toby Petzold
Troll or not, do not do a K&B. You are absolutely correct.
Moose Pudding--not exactly what you'd consider a positive trend, no?
Flory--but it's almost mom's day, and what I'd really like is something with no plot and lots of monsters.
Oh, Ek. I'm so sorry to hear about your trials with the house.
Hope you have a better living space now. There's nothing worse than lying awake at night praying that the roof won't cave in on you during a heavy rainstorm.
Speaking of, we should we getting more drizzle tomorrow. I'm gonna have to go spit on my grass if it doesn't. I hate watering the St. Augustine. I'm a strict "sink or swim" gardener. I have *lots* of aloe vera plants.
But all of this talk of geopolitics is irrelevant.
chiavos Don't Know Where Terri's Ashes Are
MIAMI - The family of a severely brain-damaged woman who died after her feeding tube was removed in March said Friday they still have not been told where her remains will be laid to rest.
I like how you think Kim is allowed to be abusive and threatening, but it's far too reminiscent of Bill Richardson's pussified rationalizations of Kim's undiplomatic behavior.
Dude, you just don't get it. We are bellicose and the ones with lots of nukes. The DPRK is a weak country. The pen has been invaded a gazillion times and Kim has been playing the only trump he has, fitting consistently within the cultural and diplomatic framework that has evolved in Korea precisely because of its historical weakness.
Clinton understood that. Perhaps the AF was imperfectly executed, and I lay that at his and Albright's feet, but Bush's policy of trashing anything Clinton has made matters far worse.
By the way, apologists for Imperial Japan said the same thing you just did of Roosevelt's decision to cut off Japan's oil and metals. They said we brought the War on ourselves when we did that.
Not the same thing at all. We had agreed in the AF to provide Kim with oil to keep his people warm, and the LWR to provide electricty to his people so he wouldn't need to develop nuclear facilities that would also enable weapons dev. We failed to live up to our part of the bargain.
hooray, fake Thersites is gone, authentic Thers is here.
Indeed, and freshly anointed Lord of Whores and Spittle. And RMJ loves me.
Sallyh, you here? Could you calculate an algorithm for exactly how stupid Toby is? Not a single thing he's said is germane to anything -- how far off objective reality is he? We need a math whiz.
NTodd is in charge of determining the ugliness factor, and I think EkCenTrik needs to explain just how unpopular Toby is.
I will sit and plot.
flory, I'm hopeful that any trifecta won is a good trifecta. At least for the winner, at any rate. (I would be thinking of GWB and his *trifecta* which has been berry berry good for him, but shitful for the rest of us).
Thersites--I can certainly calculate a random walk progression as to how Toby is ugly, stupid, and nobody likes him.
KB Homes just east of Austin
Out in Pflugerville? Or right outside the city limits? Whichever, I saw that subdiv the last time I drove through on my way to Round Rock.
Don't. Do. It. Sure, you can get 4000 sq. ft. for $90,000. But it'll be worth less a few years down the road and you'll be renting it out rather than selling it if you ever need to move.
However, without even calculating, I can say that Petzold is off from reality by a factor of at least +3. For some reason, the curve skews harshly to the right as well.
Coincidence? There ARE no coincidences. Just probabilities we haven't calculated.
Sarah D--now we may have to have stroganoff twice this week.
sallyh:
what I'd really like is something with no plot and lots of monsters.
Hmmm....you may have to wait til tommorrow to get away with the Mom ploy.
I don't suppose you recorded Mansquito?
SD:
You're absolutely right. I'll take my wins any way I can get them.
NTodd is in charge of determining the ugliness factor
He's uglier than a salt and water stain that looks vaguely like a vagina under the Kennedy Expressway.
Toby (p)is my penis.
Just sayin'.
Toby
How do you manage to accomplish your "mission?" Do you have to use tweezers and a magnifying glass to pee?
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But seriously... Star Wars fans who voted for Bush. Will Episode III cause their heads to explode or not? What wins? Star Wars fandom or Bush fandom?
there needs to be a single link for all Atriot recipes!!!!!
Bush allowed Kim to build nukes while under-armoredc Marines are taking out Saddamites and dead-enders? the people of the Islamic Republic of Iraq only have good things to say about the generosity and spirit of the American taxpayers.
let the nuclear beatings begin!
I can certainly calculate a random walk progression as to how Toby is ugly, stupid, and nobody likes him.
I really wanna hear THESE variables....
Rose
" I hate watering the St. Augustine"
I have a problem with that too. The rain keeps fooling me. And it takes a lot of water for this yard. I have had to rethink what I want to do with it after being here this last year.
I bought a place built in '68. Plenty of room, good constuction. Lots of little fix up work to do from wear, but I got almost exactly what I wanted. And I am not sitting on top of my neighbor.
Flory--I need the data from NTodd and EkC to do the calc.
I can attest that Toby's likability factor = 0.
The North Koreans get the vast majority of their fuel oil from China, as well as a lot of other basic items. Why should we have to supply them with this kind of a bribe package to keep them from doing what they've already done, which is to develop nuclear technology? They lied to Carter and to the Clinton people. And why should we ever consider giving them light water technology (as Kerry suggested we also do for Iran) when we would have to take the risk of them reprocessing the spent fuel? At a minimum, we would be involving ourselves in some huge, decades-long inspections regime. What the fuck? Can't we agree that Kim is a psychopath and that we don't want our boys on the DMZ and our friends in Seoul and Tokyo to be vaporized? Fuck helping that guy.
He's uglier than a salt and water stain that looks vaguely like a vagina under the Kennedy Expressway.
WRONGwrongwrongwrong...he IS a salt and water stain......that looks exactly like a pile of steaming horse turds.
Want to know what China is up to?
Go here.
Elaine Supkis's Blog
Elaine knows a lot about this.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere - 12:43
No. Have been there a few times. Too scary.
However, have once again dug out my Go board and pieces and booklets.
Sigh.
Sarah D--"Eschacooks"?
Sarah Deere,
I was just thinking the same thing. We got the picture thing going over at NTodd's. Maybe we should get a cookbook thing going on a blog?
I'll be starting my first blog this summer while I'm off from college duty. I'm calling it...are you ready?
BiblioSquirrel.
When I get it going, I'd be glad to host recipes.
Star Wars fans who voted for Bush. Will Episode III cause their heads to explode or not?
Alas, it will not. Followers of the Sith make other people's heads explode, not their own.
And I'd just like to say that after having had a nice long nap this evening, thinking I would sleep through the night, I'm now wide awake, but the Benadryl I took a little while ago is making me feel all funny. I hope I don't say anything weird or incorrect, like observing that Toby is smart, gorgeous and well-liked.
Quinn--you play Go?
Yes! I knew there were Go players here.
And I've learned there are bridge players, too
SD:
there needs to be a single link for all Atriot recipes!!!!!
Sounds like somebody needs to start a blog
"I think EkCenTrik needs to explain just how unpopular Toby is. "
Wait, when did I get homework? Damn you Academics!!!
chiavos Don't Know Where Terri's Ashes Are
MIAMI - The family of a severely brain-damaged woman who died after her feeding tube was removed in March said Friday they still have not been told where her remains will be laid to rest.
I don't think the Monkey's Paw really *requires* line of sight.
Just sayin'.
" I hate watering the St. Augustine"
Well, just have one of the Chicagoland wingnuts lick St. Augustine for you.
Oh, it's a plant?
Good night folks. Try the stroganoff.
NTodd--I don't think there are enough drugs in the universe to make you voice that.
Thanks for the advice, san antone. Pflugerville is north of Austin. Actually, Pflugerville is North Austin. I'm talking about deep SE Austin. Out near McKinney Falls State Park.
I'm getting an older house, but it ain't no cookie-cutter deal. Big backyard with many, many trees. The old ones that make a canopy.
I am very excited.
I can certainly calculate a random walk progression as to how Toby is ugly, stupid, and nobody likes him.
Excellent! If ExC is not here, though, we can certainly take public comment for the unpopularity factor.
Oh, notice the Tobyesque not-to-the-point hastily googled nonsense meant to fend off the "stupid" charge? Hee hee.
Okay...true confessions...
(Stammers, blushes)
I started a blog...but have nothing on it at this point. But since the Tag line is 'liberte. egalite. pate.' it might work as a recipe repository.
Also, for those who use blogspot, how do you put new stuff up?
(Really hangs head in shame)
actually, the most egegious ww2 profiteers were ford motor co, general motors, and esso[std of nj].
i used to laugh at the owner of the met lab that my company used. he was a bombardier with the 8th air force. flying out of liverpool in b17's so as to bomb german civilians.
he hated the fact that i owned and drove benzes...he thought that was a post facto nurturing the enemy. hmmmmmmm. he drove a cadillac.
gm's german subsidiary, adam opel ag, produced more vehicles for the wehrmacht than daimler benz could ever think to produce.
ford in its koln manufacturing facilities built more vehicles for the wehrmacht than did adam opel ag[general motors].
oh, and by the way, at this time, general motors was really owned and controlled by dupont - a munitions' manufacturer - found after ww1 by the nye commission to have been a war profiteer. and it became a war profiteer again in ww2.
and then we have the rockefeller petroleum combine, specifically standard of new jersey. this entity had a patent on a technology for producing synthetic rubber[buna]. the oswiecim[sic] camp had a principal petrochemical camp known as buna. it produced the synthetic rubber that tired the wehmacht and the luftwaffe.
that part of the camp was operated by ig farben, who had licensed the esso synthetic rubber patents. i think after march, 1933.
the guy who arranged these commercial modalities was a lawyer by the name of john foster dulles. he later became ike's secstate. his brother became an early dci. in ww2, he was the oss rep in bern, ch. and he was not a spook. he was actually a contract administrator....his principal mission was to manage the royalty payments from hitler's reich[and its industrial agents] to the swiss accounts of ford, gm, esso, et alia.
to the best of my knowledge, no synthetic rubber[buna] was ever produced by esso for the allied war effort. that was reserved for the reich.
for the allies, the rubber consumed was natural rubber. principally furnished from the ford and rockefeller plantations in south america.
just a bit of incoherence.
Imagine the typical toliet if you will. White or offwhite, curved with the traditional lid and seat. Look closer and you will the hinge for that lid and seat. That hinge is affixed with two bolts that proceed downward through the ceramic of the toilet proper. While we try to scrub and scrub to ensure a clean and sanitary waste removal system, the spooge that forms under those stanchions and bolts never seems to come clean. It may look so, but ask the poor soul who one day removes those bolts and replaces the seat. It is pretty vile, disgusting in terms that once again fail me. That spooge has a better chance of being welcome here than Toby.
great. Now Monsieur wants to watch 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' because he thought Geena Davis looked hot in it.
Toby - Kim is a shrewd survivalist just like his father.
And once again, we're the ones that violated an agreement. China has its own insatiable appetite for oil, and we were helping a situation that has humanitarian implications as well as geopolitical.
You also clearly don't understand the significance of the LWR. The whole point is to make it extremely difficult to process weapons-grade fuel.
Read more, spout less.
great. Now Monsieur wants to watch 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' because he thought Geena Davis looked hot in it.
"Chefs do that."
La Poissoniere
excellente! bien complimentados a la cocinera.
Long Kiss was a pretty fun movie. And Geena did look...saucy!
Tobe:
Can't we agree that Kim is a psychopath and that we don't want our boys on the DMZ and our friends in Seoul and Tokyo to be vaporized? Fuck helping that guy.
Yes, we can agree that Kim is a psychopath.
Where you lose us reality based folks is assuming that setting up conditions that guarantee his nuclear buildup is the way to deal with a psychopath.
Eeeewwwww. I agreed with Toby.
Must. Bleach. Braincells.
NTodd
Do I remember somewhere in the past, the administration basically saying that Kim is being misrepresented and he wasn't the maniac they all made him out to be. Its a memory, it may be faulty however.
Mrs. Ibrahim--of course, I have to figure out how to post stuff on it.
Moose Pudding--not exactly what you'd consider a positive trend, no?
Sallyh
Fair fishwife, between your political sensibilities and your mathematical abilities ( and I think there's baking involved, as well), I must sign off ere I embarrass myself by indulging in starry-eyed tributes.
Plus, all of the rest of you moonbats can rest well in the thought that you are our last bastion in the fight against fascist theocracy.
Of course, the trolls can suck my hairy nuts.
Of to view Hedwig I go! Sure, I'm one of the dreaded heteros, but that slender dude gets my motor running..
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Speaking of Long Kiss Goodnight, I kiss you all and wish you a good night. I am now down for the count.
to the best of my knowledge, no synthetic rubber[buna] was ever produced by esso for the allied war effort. that was reserved for the reich.
for the allies, the rubber consumed was natural rubber. principally furnished from the ford and rockefeller plantations in south america.
just a bit of incoherence.
thanks albert champion.
see, I told ya, it was the Red Army that beat the Nazi's, along with "liberals" in the United States. general good beats Standard of New Jersey, in the long run.
Madame la Poissoniere - I believe you would make the PERFECT custodian of the Eschatonian cookery archives.
Also, for those who use blogspot, how do you put new stuff up?
Go to Blogger.com; sign in with your username & password. Then select your blog. That will put you into a page with a number of tab options; you should be in the posting tab. Click the Create a new post button. There are buttons for basic html shortcuts, like italics.
Post at my place tomorrow & I'll walk you thru it, if you like.
Quinn: explain how Bush was supposed to have already "dealt" with Kim without tripping the nuclear wire.
oh that's too easy-in fact it's a slam dunk...
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HUH?
What?
Is someone stealing my name? Now, that's just pathetic, that is.
Anyway, the way for anyone to "deal" with Kim of North Korea is to publicly ignore him. Well, ... maybe give him some attention when he rattles his cage. He will die pretty soon, I'm guessing, and that will be that.
That spooge has a better chance of being welcome here than Toby.
Well said. Indeed... eloquent. I weep, almost...
Frank Zappa lives!
I just saw System of a Down on Saturday Night Live.
Mother fucker! they were great!
ok, i'm an old freak. fuck you.
Was that a pass/fail or do I have to wait for grades to be posted?
Goodnight, Todd, but don't forget: China is using North Korea against us. Only when China feels like the North is a liability to them will they actually help us.
That means Kim needs to die. That whole system needs to die. An unstable North Korea = China's involvement.
The North Koreans get the vast majority of their fuel oil from China, as well as a lot of other basic items.
The Americans get most of their credit from China, as well as a lot of their manufacured items.
Why should we have to supply them with this kind of a bribe package to keep them from doing what they've already done, which is to develop nuclear technology?
Why should the Chinese have to supply America with this kind of bribe package to keep them from doing what they've already done, which is to use the money to war on other countries and give tax cuts to their rich?
They lied to Carter and to the Clinton people.
Bush lied to everyone.
And why should we ever consider giving them light water technology (as Kerry suggested we also do for Iran) when we would have to take the risk of them reprocessing the spent fuel? At a minimum, we would be involving ourselves in some huge, decades-long inspections regime. What the fuck?
And why should we ever consider that America has nuclear weapons too, or that some other country will sell the technology to them anyway?
And why should we consider any form of diplomacy?
Can't we agree that Kim is a psychopath and that we don't want our boys on the DMZ and our friends in Seoul and Tokyo to be vaporized? Fuck helping that guy.
Can't we agree that Bush is a psychopath and that we don't want a nuclear war, either? Fuck helping that guy (Bush).
Oh, before I go...
ECTK - My brain's too fuzzy at the moment, so dunno if anybody said something like what you're recalling.
Food for thought: Kim isn't crazy.
And a couple oldies:
Q: How do you drive Toby crazy?
A: Put him in a circular room and tell him to pee in the corner.
Q: How do you capture a Toby?
A: Dig a hole, fill it with ash and put peas around the edges. When Toby comes to take a pea, kick him in the ash hole.
Thank you and goodnight.
sallyh,
Ibrahim wants to blog her First year Florida class. me, I wanna learn Drupal by Fall. email and I can at least help with the rudiments of html and ftp and breakin stuff on your new toy.
that is so cool, a new blog!
to the best of my knowledge, no synthetic rubber[buna] was ever produced by esso for the allied war effort. that was reserved for the reich.
"The Bull Moose" is a fucking idiot. The Bear thinks that the Moose should stop referring to himself in the third person. The Bear thinks the Moose should be called the Clown.
Marshall Shitman's latest puke:
"Blair is a Churchillian figure in the war against Islamist extremism. However, he paid a price with a public that is increasingly opposed to their country's involvement in Iraq. That should not necessarily be interpreted that he will go wobbly if another threat emerges. He is a principled leader at a time when others in Europe have vacillated and wavered."
Blair is a Churchillian figure, eh?
People called Churchill FDR's poodle *all* the time, right?
China is using North Korea against us. Only when China feels like the North is a liability to them will they actually help us.
China already sees the DPRK as a liability, which is why they have put pressure on the country. And if we freakin' engaged in bilateral talks, China would be a non-issue. Really, you need to pay more attention.
And now I'm really going. I can barely see my LCD screen.
Well the man has kept his country together, regardless of the quality and our approval of such. Crazy may not be the right phrase, warped is more like it. If he were flipping insane, things would have blown up years ago. he can manage a nation, that says he can think logically. personally I think he is practicing a hell of a game of brinksmanship and tweaking Bushies nose at the same time. Saddam did the same thing with Bush I, Clinton and Jr. Sure he lost his country and his freedom, but he kept it up for a long long time.
Toby, if you think China is a bad and dangerous country, why do you want Bush to destroy America so that China will dominate the 21st century. That's what I don't understand.
That spooge has a better chance of being welcome here than Toby.
Ummm.....sallyh?
How do you factor this eloquence into the equation?
Sarah D--"Eschacooks"?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
BiblioSquirrel.
When I get it going, I'd be glad to host recipes.
san antone rose
You guys GO!!!
Being a squirrel afficionado, of course, my vote would be.....(easy to guess!)
But, either, both, doesn't matter. But food is IMPORTANT, and Atriots clearly understand this basic fact. Let us share our favorites and heal one another this way as we do with our heartfelt thoughts and words.
SD
Well I need to go onwards as well. I have been here a good part of the day off and on. Been nursing an on again off again ham string issue, but I suspect tomorrow that excuse will not be about, so up and early for work of some sort.
That means Kim needs to die.
Yeah, there's a foreign policy, you fucking idiot.
That means Kim needs to die.
Yeah, there's a foreign policy, you fucking idiot.
It worked really well with his dad too.
The American Jobs Creation Act, in action:
A new tax break for corporations is allowing the biggest American drug makers to return as much as $75 billion in profits from international havens to the United States while paying a fraction of the normal tax rate.
Sarah D--Emma Goldman said she wouldn't come to the revolution if she couldn't dance.
I say, if we can't eat well at ours, why bother?
Flory--if we assume a null hypothesis of Petzold being a normal human, then all coordinates appear in the lower left.
Babs wanted to make Bill puke at the thought of his face so close to those withered genitals...
Although the act is intended to create jobs, Pfizer said last month that it would cut its annual costs by $4 billion over the next three years. Pfizer, which will repatriate at least $28 billion under the act, did not say how many jobs it planned to eliminate, but analysts expect the company to shrink its work force by thousands of people. Mr. Senyek said the law would create an insignificant number of jobs because companies can easily work around provisions in the law meant to stop them from using the money for dividends to shareholders rather than new hiring.
After the break expires, companies will probably go back to stockpiling profits overseas as they wait for another tax holiday in a few years, tax lawyers say.
Flory--if we assume a null hypothesis of Petzold being a normal human, then all coordinates appear in the lower left.
What are the axes? And shouldn't there be three of them?
Some machetes might come in handy as well.
war + big business = $
's been a while since I read William Manchester's book on the Krupps (German munitions mfg) so the details are foggy... but during WWI the Germans were using some English co's fuse, likewise the English were using a german patent of some sort-- (& this is the kicker) both sides were keeping track so's after the war they could get their royalties paid.
'course, they did this *really quietly*, as it would no doubt not only piss off the general public but also the Kaiser to find out a German company expected to be reimbursed by an English firm manufacturing things used to blow Germans into little pieces.
big business is amoral *at best*
Attention: Elvis Petzold has most likely left the room...
Eli--this is simple x-y coordinates. It's getting late, y'know
Bill Maher was fucking GREAT tonight! Called Pat Robertson a "nutcase" and much more. Without Maher, these would be truely intolerable times indeed.
Off bedways for me too. Tell RMJ I love him...
Off bedways for me too. Tell RMJ I love him...
sallyh - that's one null hypothesis awright
I say, if we can't eat well at ours, why bother?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
Sallyh:
100% (and whatever more it might take) agreed!!!
Y'know, if I was NYMary, I might be gettin' a little concerned about this thing with Thers and RMJ.....they're gettin' positively googly-eyed.
Whoa! I published my first post!
I'm still not ready to take the training wheels off, though.
One more thing about Battle Ax Barb...this is one vicious bitch. She's the only reason I might have once entertained a smidgen of sympathy for GWB. Of course, his own viciousness soon alerted me to the fact that he IS his mother, and even worse. I keep thinking of the Roman EMpire, strong mothers, weak, evil sons....there's more than one example.......
albertchampion:
the guy who arranged these commercial modalities was a lawyer by the name of john foster dulles. he later became ike's secstate. his brother became an early dci. in ww2, he was the oss rep in bern, ch. and he was not a spook. he was actually a contract administrator....his principal mission was to manage the royalty payments from hitler's reich[and its industrial agents] to the swiss accounts of ford, gm, esso, et alia.
this is the part I know a little bit about: right after WWII our intelligence agencies started filling up with people (and I used that term advisedly) from the intel agencies of the Third Reich. My poor benighted father somehow wound up in the military intelligence units dealing directly with the Soviet threat, such as it was. Alongside former gestapo and such.
He hated those people, but he had a family to support. After a while he got himself out of there, and not a moment too soon according to my mom.
Dad said that back then he'd met people from the CIA/FBI who's made his blood run cold. This from a man who'd acquired 48 months combat time before meeting these guys. And who'd grown up in the rough part of pre-war Honolulu.
Dad also insisted to his dying day (literally) that he was afraid of the Bush family. Thank whatever gods may be that Dad died in 1998, well before all this.
It makes me sick to think about how our government let those fascists in, kinda like in horror movies when some fool invites into his home the creature/vampire/demon who wants to destroy him.
Whoa! I published my first post!
WHoooHooo!!!!!
Sallyh is a blogger.
Break out the bubbly.
Er...um....what's the URL?
David Brooks, when you thoght he couldn't get any more mendacious...
This time he's jumped 5 sharks, a flaming poodle, six school buses, a megachurch, 4 Hummers with Support Out Troops magnetic ribbons, an ex-urban big box store mall parking lot, and fourtenn nubile ass-shaking cheerleaders.
I would love to kick him in the teeth. How can someone with a baseline intelligence be so stupid?
his own viciousness soon alerted me to the fact that he IS his mother, and even worse. I keep thinking of the Roman EMpire, strong mothers, weak, evil sons....there's more than one example.......
Wouldn't Dr. Freud just have had a field day with that family?
Certain members are almost enough to make me rethink my stand on capital punishment.
The Bush family is dangerous. Don't ever forget that.
Um...how long does it take for posts to show up?
I was told they were published successfully.
Patience with the rookie, please. But feel free to be mocking in your comments.
It makes me sick to think about how our government let those fascists in, kinda like in horror movies when some fool invites into his home the creature/vampire/demon who wants to destroy him.
QuinnLaBelle
QLB, yes, it is exactly like that. We opened the door, goddess forgive our stupidity.
Most of the time I think we are truly and well fucked for that enormous error of judgement.
May 08, 2005
Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’
Christina Lamb and Mohammad Shehzad Islamabad
THE capture of a supposed Al-Qaeda kingpin by Pakistani agents last week was hailed by President George W Bush as “a critical victory in the war on terror”. According to European intelligence experts, however, Abu Faraj al-Libbi was not the terrorists’ third in command, as claimed, but a middle-ranker derided by one source as “among the flotsam and jetsam” of the organisation.
snip
No European or American intelligence expert contacted last week had heard of al-Libbi until a Pakistani intelligence report last year claimed he had taken over as head of operations after Khalid Shaikh Mohammad’s arrest. A former close associate of Bin Laden now living in London laughed: “What I remember of him is he used to make the coffee and do the photocopying.”
snip
Even a senior FBI official admitted that al-Libbi’s “influence and position have been overstated”. But this weekend the Pakistani government was sticking to the line that al-Libbi was the third most important person in the Al-Qaeda network.
One American official tried to explain the absence of al-Libbi’s name on the wanted list by saying: “We did not want him to know he was wanted.”
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(This is not a parody post.)
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Most of the time I think we are truly and well fucked for that enormous error of judgement.
I dunno. We may have been fucked before then. They just make it more interesting.
Quinn, Sarah--EkC compared the Republicans to bad summer guests, the kind that come in and start trashing the place and never pay for their own beer. The only problem is, they've got a whole world they believe they can trash, and they don't mind sinking everyone into the financial abyss to do so.
Sarah--we didn't let them in. They were forced on us. They stole both elections. There is no mathematical model that suggest Bush won.
Quinn--you play Go?
Yes! I knew there were Go players here.
And I've learned there are bridge players, too
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We-ell. I'm making another attempt to learn. Inspired mostly by Elaine's blog. We'll see how far this gets. :}
And you are starting a recipe repository/blog for Atriots?!?!?!
Wunnerful! Just wunnerful!
Would you like my Butter Bean & Veal & Italian Sausage Stew recipe? it's very good. Cribbed it from the NYTimes.com food section some years back and have been playing with it ever since.
let me know, 'k?
Um...how long does it take for posts to show up?
Came back just for you!
Go to your blogger page and click View Blog.
If you are looking at your page from the normal Web view, refresh the page.
What's your blog's name? Let us know & we'll tell you if we can see it.
Quinn--once I figure out where I'm screwing up, I'll be able to take posts with all the fantastic Eschatonian recipes. We have a plethora of talented cooks and eager eaters here!
sallyh,
the url is what?
Thersites, when I go to the view page, I can see it fine, but when I go to the blog itself, nothing is visible.
BTW, Thersites, thanks for getting up to do this...I won't tell RMJ you are cheating on him.
Mrs. Ibrahim:
lapoissoniere.blogspot.com
okay, that worked, the refresh.
Now go feed me recipes at:
Madame Poissoniere's Blog
Sarah--we didn't let them in. They were forced on us. They stole both elections.
Sallyh, we LET them take that election. We should have been in the streets. We were not - they were, Bolton, fer chrissakes, at the fore.
We were in shock, yet we accepted it. Gore did, too, for the "good" of the country.
It's one reason we still are inefficacious, because we can't believe what;s before our eyes, what they're doing, 24/7.
A new horror (at LEAST one new horror) daily.
And, still we stand, numbly watching. Doing nothing, because they have it all tied up in one neat bundle.
Quinn, Sarah--EkC compared the Republicans to bad summer guests, the kind that come in and start trashing the place and never pay for their own beer. The only problem is, they've got a whole world they believe they can trash, and they don't mind sinking everyone into the financial abyss to do so.
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It sometimes seems to me that there are the ordinary repugs, who are are EkC described, and then there are these other ... people. People who are after more. And they truely don't give a shit who they hurt or how badly.
Sarah D--I think that's true.
Quite honestly, I'm wondering what they're putting in the water these years.
And I expect you to post your marvelous stroganoff and nut waffle recipes.
sallyh,
blogger doesn't allow anonymous comments. and to create an account it asks me to make a blog.
I went through the registration. oy vey! but to no avail. no anonymous comments?
I used your glaze tonight for the NY strips, but substituted merlot for the vinegar, and doubled the honey, and added lemon grass paste instead of lemon juice. Ibrahim raved.
Hmm. Wonder if I can get Hell-O-Scan on there?
Sallyh, re: recipes, I tried, but, techno-aborigne that I am, I failed. I don;t know how to do all the shit that's required. I have no goddamned blog, for example, but *they* want me to enter info I don't think is necessary....and for which I have no answers.
Tell me how to get through the fucking hoops so I can post!!!!!
Mrs. Ibrahim--your version sounds way better than mine
Mrs. Ibrahim--I changed the settings so that you do not need a Blogger id to post.
Sarah D--just changed the settings so that anyone can post. if it's balking, hit refresh.
mostly it was the gehlen org, but with rare exception, the nazis were our boys.
and the bushits were prime players in that game. but mostly as lackeys for the real puppeteers.
however, herbie walker may have become a puppeteer, even though his origins were as a rockefeller, harriman sycophant.
herbie was a real piece of work. hated jews. when fritz thyssen came to him to construct a mechanism for financing the early days of the reich, herbie was more than happy to join in that effort.
let us never forget the role of fritz thyssen and the creation of the 3rd reich. the creating instrumentality was the thule society. founded in the early 1920's, it was the creator of adolf. its hq was on the mezzanine floor of the vier jahrszeiten hotel in munchen. oddly enough, as of my last stay in that hotel, the thule society continues to have a space there. hmmmmm.
some study on the bilderbergers. i wonder why it is that the thule society goes unexamined.
anyway, as some of you may know, the bush, walker, harriman front for fritz thyssen[adolf hitler] was found by the congress of the usa to be a treasonous entity...its assets were seized.
eventually, the bush, walker, harriman treason became overlooked because their affection for a german totalitarian was less of a crime than affection for russian, chinese totalitarians.
however, it is important to note that we created all of these totalitarians. and fortified them with technology exchanges that enabled them to become congressionally-identified worthwhile military opponents of the usa. i suppose so that the congress could browbeat the electorate into defense expenditures, of which congresspersons would get a cut.
i know, i hear you, albert champion is so paranoid. not really, educated is the accurate description.
any time that you want to learn the real history of the last century, you can read these 3 volumes: western technology and soviet economic development. written by tony sutton and published by the hoover institution[not a left wing entity].
arguably the most important histories of the 20th century.
smelling the coffee?
Sallyh...way too much vodka. I'll post later!!! Not your fault, all mine, I'm afraid :-z
SD
(But I DO look forward to posting and reading recipes!!! This is a wunnerful idea!!!)
Hmm. Wonder if I can get Hell-O-Scan on there?
Yes, and it's relatively easy to do; it just requires a bit of fooling with your template.
But you need a blogroll first! You're on mine: check my homepage, to the right.
albert.....I am frightened to my marrow. I'm thinking 'tis folly to be wise right now. What in the world can we do, except rise up in revolution...??
Thersites--muchas gracias, senor. Now get some sleep!
I will need some assistance on creating my blogroll--it's going to be HUGE.
Thank you all, and welcome to Madame Poissoniere's!
What's sallyh's URL again?
Sorry, I'm kinda out of it tonight, and the huge thread and all.
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the thule society. founded in the early 1920's, it was the creator of adolf. its hq was on the mezzanine floor of the vier jahrszeiten hotel in munchen. oddly enough, as of my last stay in that hotel, the thule society continues to have a space there.
you. are. f'ing. kidding. me.
No. you're not.
smelling the coffee?
albertchampion, 2:31am
heavy sigh.
It's info like this that makes me want to curl up in a cave somewhere underneath a pile of leaves. Really.
Sarah Deere and other people have talks about filling the streets a la Ukraine, etc. But something tells that ain't gonna work. And such tactics of obvious confrontation are not my thang at all.
But subversion.
I like subversion. And there are all kinds of opportunities for that sort of thing.
Yes, there are! (QLB rubs her hands in glee.)
Agave?
Sallyh's new blog's address:
http://lapoissoniere.blogspot.com/
Oy, sallyh - what's a girl to do.
Do you have any idea what havoc your blog is going to wreak on the working world?
I'll be spending the few hours a day I'm not here, or at First Draft, or NTodds, or Watertigers etc etc at your place culling recipes.
Little work will get done.
QuinnLaBelle |
I am old, and was raised on the idea that one could confront evil, face to face.
I am coming to believe that you are right, sedition and subversion are much more effective.
SD
sedition and subversion are much more effective
What's that saying? I believe it's something like, "Old and and treachery will always overcome youth and skill."
what continues to fascinate me is how so many know so little about history.
not rocket science, you know.
i wouldn't take the time to relate historical facts except for the fact that i have come to realize that most of the audience hasn't a clue as to how the world that they inhabit has been created.
oh, some may want a change, but tell me, please, how can a change be made if an understanding of the forces that created the present are ignored[unknown]?
this is the problem that i have with the amerikan left. it has emasculated itself. why? is it because the forces of darkness, the fascist bastids, subverted their opponents, inserting their lackeys into the anti-fascist positions of control?
or are the anti-fascists in amerika brain-dead and lamed? or is the left and the right in amerika the same. i think on the afl-cio and its willingness to be used as a front for amerikan fascism all over the globe. amerikan labor=amerikan militarism.
what is the alternative explanation?
that there is no congregation of anti-totalitarians in amerika?
that is what i think. certainly i have encountered no one who opposes amerikan state-sanctioned murdering. that is not to say that there aren't some opponents of the bushit murdering state out there. it is just to say that i don't encounter any of them in the course of my day.
as bill hicks once said, amerikans are just a virus with shoes.
What can one person do that is not in effect destructive in nature? One cannot do positive things, since they are almost meaningless unless in large amounts.
Ah, albert. Yes.
What a shame, eh?
John Savage....
Hmmm...this is what I think: you've been drinking too much and will have a terrible headache upon awakening.
you've been drinking too much and will have a terrible headache upon awakening.
John Savage |
Perhaps. But, in the meantime, I will have had some surcease from sorrow.
And now...night, all. Sweet dreams, eschew the goddamned budbugs.
SD
DEAN'S DEBACLE
Democratic National Committee (DNC) fund raising under the chairmanship of Howard Dean shows a disappointing $16.7 million raised in the first quarter of 2005, compared with $34 million reported by the Republicans.
That tends to confirm dire predictions by old-line Democratic fund-raisers of a fall-off in money if Dean became chairman. He had promised to bring in heavy individual contributions, as he did in his 2004 campaign for president. But the DNC in the first quarter received only $13 million from individuals, compared to $31 million for the Republican National Committee (RNC).
A footnote: A recent DNC fund-raising appeal promised to send field workers to North Carolina, which does not have a major statewide election until 2008.
seven hundred eighty thirst!
sarah, are you a canadian?
certainly i have encountered no one who opposes amerikan state-sanctioned murdering.
i do.
2005 British Parliamentary Election
Tony Blair has been re-elected.
Iraq was defintely a disaster for those leaders who sent troops into battle.
John Howard in Australia won another term in office with a resounding victory.
George W. Bush in the United States won the most popular votes in history, carrying with him four Senate seats.
Tony Blair wins a third consecutive term as Prime Minister.
Meanwhile, Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder are fighting for political survival.
Democratic National Committee (DNC) fund raising under the chairmanship of Howard Dean shows a disappointing $16.7 million raised in the first quarter of 2005, compared with $34 million reported by the Republicans.
That tends to confirm dire predictions by old-line Democratic fund-raisers of a fall-off in money if Dean became chairman. He had promised to bring in heavy individual contributions, as he did in his 2004 campaign for president. But the DNC in the first quarter received only $13 million from individuals, compared to $31 million for the Republican National Committee (RNC).
Whether this is an ominous sign of old Democratic money discontent, a temporary hangover from the loss of the 2004 presidential election, or a case of the folks who "bought and paid for" the Democratic party (organizations like MoveOn.org) being little behind on their payments is open for debate. Whatever the answer, if the trend continues it's bad news for Democratic candidates for Congress and the Senate in 2006.
Worked beautifully for Aznar!
When life imitates art, and that art is a sitcom
sarah, are you a canadian?
albertchampion
No, dear, but did not go to school in the USA until 6th grade, so had other perspectives.
SD
When life imitates art, and that art is a sitcom
thehim
Jesus.
Is there no end to human venality...???
Aznar didnt run for one thing. Do you even know what you're talking about?
Manuel Rajoy in Spain would have easily won the election to follow Jose Maria Aznar if it had not been for a terrorist attack on March 11, 2004. Leftists might say that Spain’s participation in Iraq contributed to the attacks, but there was no indication before the election that Rajoy would be negatively affected.
in other news:
Whining
Chuck Schumer wants President Bush to stop the mean old Senate Republicans from taking away his ability to block a female African-American state supreme court justice from the federal bench because she’s {gasp} a conservative, er, I mean, he wants the President to intervene so the Democrats can filibuster those evil nominees of his.
Man, these tea leaves aren’t that hard to read anymore, are they?
The federal courts are about to get much more conservative. The Democrats either can have it the hard way, or the radioactive way.
certainly i have encountered no one who opposes amerikan state-sanctioned murdering.
i do.
r@d@r
I do, too.
Thersites - any stats on fundraising for other Democratic party organisations? I'm pretty sure that Dean has been focusing on grassroots energising rather than big money fundraising early on.
It'd be interesting to see if the contributions at the State level have increased in the states where he has barnstormed like Kansas and Mississippi.
QuinnLaBelle |
I am old, and was raised on the idea that one could confront evil, face to face.
I am coming to believe that you are right, sedition and subversion are much more effective.
SD
Sarah Deere - 3:02 am
And don't forget seduction!
Good morning moonbats
QuinnLaBelle, yeah, seduction, too. If you're gonna fuck someone over, I suppose it's incumbemnt on one to make it as pleasant as possible for the fuckee. That would generally be the liberal approach. Even as we seek dominance, we look for the equalizing factor.
We just can;t help ourselves!!!
Sallyh...way too much vodka. I'll post later!!! Not your fault, all mine, I'm afraid :-z. Sarah Deere.
Vodka? vodka? Haven't you heard that those Ruskies are pissed at our dear leader?
Vodka? vodka? Haven't you heard that those Ruskies are pissed at our dear leader?
oldwhitelady
OWL, fuck them all.
And, now, to bed!!!!!
Why in the world am I up so late??????
I'm an idiot.
Anyway, blessings on all your heads.
SD
Vodka? vodka? Haven't you heard that those Ruskies are pissed at our dear leader?
oldwhitelady
And I'm supposed to boycott products from people that are pissed at Dear Leader? Sounds like products that I should be buying more of.
and fake pie - Blair had a historically good economy to run on and historically bad opposition and still scraped by worse than ever. (expect Blair to resign already as the opposition leader already has)
PM Howard also had a great economy to run on and was still forced to change the FTA with the US to accomodate the opposition.
Furious George just had a lot of gullible Americans to rely upon... {as I was gullible to respond to a fake Thersites... should have read closer to note the moose-impersonating llama among us}.
DEFAMATION OF CHARACHTER
Bill needs to file the law suit right now.
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good.
nice to know that there are some white roses out there.
Wow, the Freudian references are flying fast and furious, especially in light of Laura mentioning "George" and "Horse's Cock" in the same sentence....
Best thing I've ever heard the frosty-haired mother of Damien say.
"Just say no?"
They did at the polls and your "son" fucked your "step-son" (Gore), remember?
Let's hope for air turbulence in the Balkans...
I don't think she was referring to Bill when she meant "my son".
She always looked much, much older than her husband. A little insider humor, I suspect.
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