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Second?
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Third?
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Home Run?
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Whoo-Hoo!
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stop!
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What Joe Galloway said.
Afternoon, folks.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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I want to dedicate this home run to Quilt Lady upon the anniversary of her birth!
Chris Tucker |
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07.05.08 - 6:12 pm | #
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What if dry powder could be used as a petroleum substitute? We would be rich, that's what!
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Yeah, it's a damned shame actually.
Very disheartening. I tell myself: hey, it's still more than a month to the convention, but when I ask myself why it would get better now, I don't have a convincing answer.
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/chucks 4th Amendment down the sewer
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I suppose I SHOULD read the posting now.
BRB.
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It's Quilt Lady's birthday?!!
Cool.
I hope she's out enjoying it.
Diane C. Barking-Mad |
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Cool grav, CT. Louis Cypher?
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fear!
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What if dry powder could be used as a petroleum substitute? We would be rich, that's what!
trifecta
Amen!
And organizations such as Meals On Wheels wouldn't be having the problems they're having.
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For most of this country's history, the 4th amendment did not apply to blacks, asians or women. The current congress is simply making sure it doesn't apply to everyone else, thereby ensuring equality for all.
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fear!
watertiger
pimentoes!
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How Dare They
S'very simple. There's $$$$$ for them in doing so and they know we won't riot in the streets over it.
Change! Hope!
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"Cool grav, CT. Louis Cypher?"
Coop's 'Smoking Devil'
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David Broder would say harsh things about democrats if they opposed this bill. Feelings could be hurt.
I do like Atrios' theory though that a bunch of them aren't really that liberal, like Feinstein.
They aren't betraying their values. They are assholes to begin with.
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negative electric bill of $14?
we are going solar but the utility wont give us back any money, even at year end if we are ahead.
they need to change that to encourage more residential solar.
why do I have to be a solar utility or wind farm to get paid to produce?
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By the way, along with our right to privacy (4th Amendment), we can expect to lose our right to free speech (1st Amendment) as well.
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I would not shed a tear if all of Congress and the rest of those in power in DC were to disappear.
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By the way, along with our right to privacy (4th Amendment), we can expect to lose our right to free speech (1st Amendment) as well.
Oh, that went out the window with the SCOTUS equating speech with money.
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by the way DFH digby has some really domestic spy pertinent stuff up comparing nixon era to bush era, and how the same goopers who were there telling ford and nixon to say inherent presidential authority authorized spying on people in the US are still at it.
THE DIFFERENCE?
In the 60s and 70s Dems in Congress had balls, read the Constitution and had the occasional principled leader such as Sen. Sam Ervin, who believed that the Constitution was not some document that you sacrificed to political expediency.
The goopers are the same cast that plied Ford--cheney, rumsfeld, et al--the only difference is that the Democrats are now fucking whimps with no balls and no spine.
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They are who we thought they were.
Gutless and pathetic.
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By the way, along with our right to privacy (4th Amendment), we can
expect to lose our right to free speech (1st Amendment) as well.
But they WILL give us back the right to garrison soldiers.
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By the way, along with our right to privacy (4th Amendment), we can expect to lose our right to free speech (1st Amendment) as well.
Diane C. Barking-Mad
You mean the First Amendment (now sponsored by Disney)?
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I would not shed a tear if all of Congress and the rest of those in power in DC were to disappear.
tbhull
Anarchy in the USA
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Soylent corporations are people!
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Terry C, Obama/Clinton 08 | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 6:17 pm | #
Very nice! Where are the Sex Pistols when you need them?
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But they WILL give us back the right to garrison soldiers.
[swoon!]
-K-Lo in Betsy Ross see-through dress.
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anyone know if the Obama revolt on his website is still going strong after OB's attempt to soothe them with some erroneous pablum that Greenwald tore to shreds while the wise posters also pointed out that OB was ignoring the Constitution and sucking up to fear card?
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I'm about ready to sit this one out and I didn't think I'd ever say that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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Ay caramba leibniz.
I did not need that visual.
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-K-Lo in Betsy Ross see-through dress.
She's just itching to wear a bonnet.
watertiger |
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K-Lo in Betsy Ross see-through dress
(Toilet sound flushing down vomit.)
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hbk---wankees sox are on tb today.
i having game and brewer/patriots.
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Teddy Roosevelt sued 44 major corporations but our party is afraid to even filibuster a bill
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David Broder would say harsh things about democrats if they opposed this bill. Feelings could be hurt.
besides, we have to support this in order to get a new law saying the old law is the law, and this time we mean it.
there's no WAY they'll ignore THIS law.
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07.05.08 - 6:22 pm | #
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But the important thing is bi-partsanship and getting things done, Mr. Galloway. [/Nancy Nice & Dry Powder Reid
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negative electric bill?
we are going solar but the utility wont give us back any money, even at year end if we are ahead.
they need to change that to encourage more residential solar.
why do I have to be a solar utility or wind farm to get paid to produce?
peterboy
It's the same for us over the course of a year - the best we can do is zero out the bill, which is paid annually. But the power company (Pacific Gas and Electric) credits the over-production during the year, so that keeps the overall bill down.
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Hecate,I feel about the same. but then I listen to mcsame and think:
5-4.
(aside--fox announcer just f'ed up the game by wishing george steinbrenner happy birthday.)
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and the yankees are acutally winning peterboy.
woo and hoo!!!
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By the way, along with our right to privacy (4th Amendment), we can expect to lose our right to free speech (1st Amendment) as well.
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As long as the Second Amendment stays sacred, who gives a fuck about the others?
/Wingnut/
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if the Obama revolt on his website is still going strong after OB's attempt to soothe them with some erroneous pablum that Greenwald tore to shreds while the wise posters also pointed out that OB was ignoring the Constitution and sucking up to fear card?
Would anyone who is surprised by this please raise their hand so that I can laugh at you? He never gave us anything but vague Hope! and Change! to start with.
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peterboy,
Also, when we over-produce, we sell the power back to the power company at retail rates. And since we over-produce during peak demand hours (noon to 6 p.m. or 1 to 7 p.m., depending on time of year), we get credit for the peak kilowatt-hour rate, which (last I checked) is four times as much as summer off-peak.
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I'm about ready to sit this one out and I didn't think I'd ever say that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I'm not quite there yet, but I can understand why you might be. I just may vote for every slot by the top two.
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When will sanity return to America/
Every democrat in the Senate needs to see Galloway's remarks.
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oops, but the top two
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As long as the Second Amendment stays sacred, who gives a fuck about the others?
i forget - which amendment protects us from gays getting married?
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upsadasium.....
we get charged a minimum for the month for the privilege of getting a bill and being hooked to the grid.
but we cant sell the surplus.
installation coming next month.
LADWP; muni power in LA.
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That / was really a ?. My keys are sticking.
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i've just raised the pimento alert to orange.
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íFelíz Cumpleaños a Nuestra Señora de las Colchas!
...y muchas mas tambien!
¡Meeeeeowargh!
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Did you see the quote on Rising Hegemon today about K-Lo opining that Dim Son would make a great high school government teacher?
WTF?! Chimpy is to government as pissing in the water supply is to public health.
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hecate has mail.
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But they WILL give us back the right to garrison soldiers.
Baloney!
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Down with King George the Junior!
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No, the uproar continues. I am part of the group and I steadily receive 100 or so e-mails an hour of people sending Obama meesages about his failure, cowardice and capitulation on FISA.
Obama miscalculated this issue and clearly revealed that he is a cabin slave for the militiary complex and the telcos like all other supporters of the FISA fold as thesy all so readily and in supplicant fashion answer to their masters' command: "On your knees boy."
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Care to join?
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Senator Obama - Please Vote NO on Telecom Immunity - Get FISA Right
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I'm about ready to sit this one out and I didn't think I'd ever say that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator
I'm not quite there yet, but I can understand why you might be. I just may vote for every slot by the top two.
I've always said that anti-choice is my Rubicon; I won't vote for fuckers who are anti-choice. Right now, I still think that I can get myself drunk enough on the first Tuesday in November to at least make myself go pull the lever. If VA weren't such a battleground state, I would for sure write in someone with two X chromosomes, which is what I'd like to do for the rest of my life.
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HBK--ugh, scary farnsworth in to pitch in the 8th.
closes eyes, drinks another shot with a beer.
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People keep saying the GOP/White House's game-plan is fear, but actually, I think it's rage. The point is to keep the base apoplectic with rage at anything and everything...but particular "those not like us" wherever they fester.
I know that rage is often based on fear, but there's a big difference between the two emotions. Fear worries and second-guesses itself; it tries to think, even if it often ends up going around in circles. Rage, on the other hand, negates thinking -- when you're angry, you're absolutely convinced you're right, no matter how contradictory your ideas might be. Reason just bounces off. Quite likely, that's one of the evolutionary strengths behind rage; you don't waste time wondering if you might be wrong, you just get medieval on whoever is in the way.
Once you see that the point is rage, not fear, right-wing tactics make a lot more sense. Americans don't really scare easily, but they pop into fury at the drop of a hat...and once they're there, they'll swallow the silliest things because rage doesn't ask questions.
A useful emotion if you can make it work...
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bo, can I join more than once?
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07.05.08 - 6:28 pm | #
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-ugh, scary farnsworth in to pitch in the 8th.
heaven can wait
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I would for sure write in someone with two X chromosomes, which is what I'd like to do for the rest of my life.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 6:27 pm | #
asking b/c i don't know - what is hilary's stance on the fisa bill?
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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Did you see the quote on Rising Hegemon today about K-Lo opining that Dim Son would make a great high school government teacher?
Yup, saw that. Some translation required:
Likable guy = smart-ass frat boy
In love with his country = "my base, the haves and the have mores...."
Some history and experience to share = testimony under oath anticipated
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07.05.08 - 6:32 pm | #
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I think Farnsworth just killed the catcher.
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07.05.08 - 6:32 pm | #
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yay heepies
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I'm about ready to sit this one out and I didn't think I'd ever say that.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 6:20 pm
On Nov 4 I'm going fishing - which revives a traditional method for local Dems to avoid entanglement with the crazed National Democrats' politics in presidential years.
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Betcha Phila has this in next Friday's Hope Blogging. Bamboo bicycle.
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A useful emotion if you can make it work...
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Their skill at rage-arousal is as good as the best pornographer's at arousing lust. The irony is that these devout Christians ignore that anger, like lust, is one of the seven deadly sins.
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I am in a semi battle ground state this time. First election in my life that matters where I live.
Plus, I get to vote for Kay Hagan to beat Liddy Dole.
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You have to be a different kind of person to pursue a career as a catcher in pro baseball.
Knees just weren't made to take that abuse. Plus some guy is throwing an object at you at ~100 mph, repeatedly.
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Likable guy = smart-ass frat boy
the "boys will be boys" excuse does not extend to blowing up animals.
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Knees just weren't made to take that abuse. Plus some guy is throwing an object at you at ~100 mph, repeatedly.
Joe Mauer had pretty big knee surgery a few years back.
I'm willing to bet that the pain never goes away, though.
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upsadasium.....
we get charged a minimum for the month for the privilege of getting a bill and being hooked to the grid.
but we cant sell the surplus.
installation coming next month.
LADWP; muni power in LA.
peterboy
Well, at least you'll get plenty of sunlight. 
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bo, can I join more than once? - mer
How many e-mail accounts to you want to put on gmail or yahoo? 
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asking b/c i don't know - what is hilary's stance on the fisa bill?
dirk gently, sociopathetic
Same as Obama's
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Kind of like goalies, MP. Gotta be a special kind of person to be a goalie.
Ali, spiritual advisor |
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Hokay pipples, I need a suggestion for some sort of carbohydrate that goes well weeth grilled pork-chops.
Fries are out, ditto baked potatoes or chips.
¿Any suggestions?
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I like baseball alot better when the ads are for beer--directed at 20 and 30 year olds, than FLOMAX.
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You have to be a different kind of person to pursue a career as a catcher in pro baseball.
Knees just weren't made to take that abuse.
So why are so many senators on their knees?
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Gato Negro has no platanos?
Tostones are the only thing that go with chuletas.
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07.05.08 - 6:37 pm | #
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leibniz....teh funny
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Kind of like goalies, MP. Gotta be a special kind of person to be a goalie.
Ali, spiritual advisor
Weird. I was going to include hockey goalies in my comment.
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gato-
wild rice?
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About this wiretapping, isn't it obvious that terrorists are going to use VOIP with encryption, which makes the whole thing a joke to start with?
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Hecate--I don't know if you saw this when I posted it before, Neil Gaiman's Snow, Glass, Apples. Snow White from a certain mature woman's point of view...
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asking b/c i don't know - what is hilary's stance on the fisa bill?
Same as any pol's position depending upon Obama to pay off campaign debt: whatever he says.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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In Miami for vacation. The Miami Herald (McLatchy) had letter to the editor this week calling Galloway just that. Too much.
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Same as Obama's
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so it's more than just chromosomes.
(sorry, i hate to say it, but it's true)
dirk gently, sociopathetic |
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07.05.08 - 6:38 pm | #
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EGN,
Some fancy rice.
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07.05.08 - 6:39 pm | #
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El Gato Negro, a nice pasta salad would go beautifully with grilled pork chops. If that doesn't appeal, some vegetable fried rice would work well, too.
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¿Any suggestions?
Grill some slices of sweet potato, brushed with a mixture of lemon juice, honey and cilantro.
Or, grill some strips of fresh green and red pepper.
montag |
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07.05.08 - 6:39 pm | #
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¿Any suggestions?
¡El Gato Negro! |
¿Arroz?
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I can't think of any sport where you don't retire with fuck up knees.
I use to fence and now I can hardly walk.
HoneyBearKellyGoGiants |
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El Gato: yam fries?
MP - weird, because it's true. 
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I've always said that anti-choice is my Rubicon; I won't vote for fuckers who are anti-choice. Right now, I still think that I can get myself drunk enough on the first Tuesday in November to at least make myself go pull the lever. If VA weren't such a battleground state, I would for sure write in someone with two X chromosomes, which is what I'd like to do for the rest of my life.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator | Homepage | 07.05.08 - 6:27 pm | #
Jesus, can anyone be more full of shit?
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la gata negra has expressed a dislike of plantains, although she has enjoyed them before.
I theenk eet weel almost have to be an American starch of some kind.
(shrugs)
¡El Gato Negro! |
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so it's more than just chromosomes.
(sorry, i hate to say it, but it's true)
Well I said all along that there wasn't much difference between the two and I'd prefer to see a woman. I was told over and over that she was some kind of evil corporatist war lover and that he was pure and new and all about Change! and Hope!
I think a lot of that was all about the chromosomes.
But I'm a crazy old woman who needs a man to decide what I can do with my womb after his snoops on my phone callls.
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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R. McGeddon | 07.05.08 - 6:37 pm | #
Any readily available encryptcion, even for VOIP, can be cracked by the NSA. Count on it.
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rootless,
I'd advise against quitting your day job and taking on a Charm School franchise.
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¿Any suggestions?
Brown rice,tomatoes and basil. Barefoot Contessa did it recently and you can find recipe at food network. It's sooooo good.
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El Gato Negro, baby potatoes, baked in paprika, parsley, black pepper and olive oil. Pretty Americano, no?
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Same as any pol's position depending upon Obama to pay off campaign debt: whatever he says.
Hecate, R
So why did she have the same position for the last six months?
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rootless-e I don't remember you being such an asshole.
When did this start?
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About this wiretapping, isn't it obvious that terrorists are going to use VOIP with encryption, which makes the whole thing a joke to start with?
I have a feeling that such stuff is old hat to the NSA.
Any computer encryption is bustable with enough computer power, and the NSA is in no short supply of that....
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I'd advise against quitting your day job and taking on a Charm School franchise.
I don't hold it against him. It's hero worship. V strong drug. And it's v difficult when said hero has, in the end, feet of lead.
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El Gato Negro, some types of wingnuts have a largely potato diet so they might work in a pinch.
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And, of course, apples are tried and true with pork.
Maybe grilled? Served with some chopped fresh mint and habaneros?
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When did this start?
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I've lost patience for people making dishonest arguments about how it's all hopeless and we should all stay home.
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Oh, I second the sallyh potatoes. But after steaming them for a bit to soften them up, grill them in foil with all the stuff.
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an American starch of some kind.
Grits?
Polenta?
Corn fritters?
Hecate, Runnymeade Conspirator |
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rootless-e show me where anybody said we should all stay home?
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Well, now I at least know what I'm having for dinner.
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Suzie wrote a post on that Obama thingy today on my blog. I feel like a capitalist just sitting back on observing the great job three (3!) bloggers are doing there.
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The new Bill does away with that practice, but grants immunity from prosecution for phone companies that co-operated with the programme.
The reaction from Mr Obama's "netroots" – internet supporters and bloggers – was swift and brutal. One prominent blogger, Atrios, branded Mr Obama with a six-letter epithet, while Keith Olberman, the most influential liberal cable news host, condemned the Bill as "fascism". The debate is an important one for Mr Obama's strategists because he will shortly face the biggest hurdle of his campaign, when he visits Iraq.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/...m-the-
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That's Mr. Atrios to you, Bub.
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Going out for dinner at a friend's.
I hope there's potatoes.

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Rice, weeth grilled peppers, of assorted colors and piquancy...
The new potatoes, sliced thin, drizzled weeth olive oil covered w/ spices and baked, sounds good too.
Both of those ideas seem achievable on a limited budget and time constraints, and using such a tiny grill.
Muchas gracias a todos.
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Also, it is easy to determine when one uses encryption software. I would not be surpise that NSA's e-mail search algorithm gives higher threat levels to those that employ encryption software.
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Lead doesn't smell, Hecate, but maybe I'm just being hormonal.
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Neil Gaiman's Snow, Glass, Apples, in case you missed the link the first time. Snow White from the Queen's point of view. Just sayin'.
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Not the...
six letter epithet!
eeeeeeek!!!
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rootless-e show me where anybody said we should all stay home?
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Here
I'm about ready to sit this one out and I didn't think I'd ever say that.
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I disagree with Hecate. We have to start somewhere. And a vote for Obama is a vote against a wheezing reactionary war-mongering stupid fool. FDR had his flaws, as did JFK, TR, and Clinton.
But I think personal attacks on her, like what rootless-e just wrote, epitomize the kind of poiltics that people like Jesse Helms, Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove have embraced. Pretty despicable.
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I pledge to worship as a hero the president who appoints Supreme Court justices who respect Roe v. Wade and Lawrence v. Texas.
Clinton would have done that. Obama will do that.
McCain, not so much.
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I always enjoy Neil Gaiman, Ina. Haven't read that one.
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Oh, and fuck Jesse Helms.
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OK, off to eat those potatoes now. (i hope)
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Harry, I'm not looking for Superman or Mighty Mouse. I'm looking for someone who will start walking in the opposite direction of where we've been going. I don't think that's hero worship.
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McCain, not so much.
McCain's still pissed off about Plessy v. Ferguson.
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Not the...
six letter epithet!
eeeeeeek!!!
Ali, spiritual advisor
"looser"?
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Necrophilia?
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I really liked the Fourth Amendment. As Amendments go, it had dignity, style and a certain history to it.
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Another advantage of gay marriage that most people are missing is the message it sends to US Muslims. We'll arbitrarily change our marriage laws to accommodate our latest whims but will not budge when it comes to Muhammad's allowance of polygamy (up to 4 wives). Pretty much every time we celebrate a homosexual marriage we are also taking a dump on the Qur' an (metaphorically of course).
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Harry, I'm not looking for Superman or Mighty Mouse. I'm looking for someone who will start walking in the opposite direction of where we've been going. I don't think that's hero worship.
Sallyh
I think we're on the same page.
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But I think personal attacks on her, like what rootless-e just wrote, epitomize the kind of poiltics that people like Jesse Helms, Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove have embraced. Pretty despicable.
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Oh gimme a fucking break. Hecate is no stranger to dishing out personal attacks. And my comment is clearly an attack on her solipsistic argument.
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rootless-e Hecate was not telling everybody to stay home (as if!).
She was speaking for herself.
I'm sure that 99.99 percent of the people that comment here are going to vote for Obama.
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that ain't atrios.
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Watertiger, Plessy v. Ferguson--is that the mythology of 'separate but equal'?
Sorry, not a lawyer, don't even play one on TV.
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Another approach, which I am not suggesting, would be to tip his casket over during the service with some sort of remote controlled device.
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Oh gimme a fucking break. Hecate is no stranger to dishing out personal
attacks. And my comment is clearly an attack on her solipsistic
argument.
I'm sorry, but you're deadass wrong on this one.
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Plessy vs. Ferguson was about the African-American man who was denied a seat in the whites-only compartment of a train. The Supremes decided that separate was fine if it was equal. So race could be used to bar people.
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McCain's still pissed off about Plessy v. Ferguson.
watertiger
Only because McCain had Plessy in the office pool.
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I always enjoy Neil Gaiman, Ina. Haven't read that one.
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I got to hear him do a reading years ago at a fundraiser for the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund. He's pretty darn funny.
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Oh, and fuck Jesse Helms.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)
Too late.
He's dead.
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And my comment is clearly an attack on her solipsistic argument. - rootless-e
Martini, throw the ball to someone who's really there. [/McMurphy
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Auntie GWPDA, we miss it sorely.
Come back, 4th Amendment! Come back!
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Canada is buying Saddam's uranium.
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Oh, and fuck Jesse Helms.
Harry Doghiney (D-TX)
Too late.
He's dead.
You clearly have not seen enough episodes of "Six Feet Under"
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Canada is buying Saddam's uranium.
Cheney's buying Saddam's urine.
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Go after Bush, not the telecoms.
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Too late.
He's dead.
Diane C.
I reserve the right to dance on his grave.
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Same as any pol's position depending upon Obama to pay off campaign debt: whatever he says.
I find it amazing how you always manage to find a way to blame a man for a bad decision made by a woman. Always.
All women are as pure as the driven snow, and left to their own devices, are uncapable of doing anything wrong, apparently.
Sorry, but Clinton is responsible for her own actions. You can't whitewash it.
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