I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
wouldn't that cause a lot of unnecessary pollution?
Hey, fuck the asshole.
Well, Up eary and Attaturkinh, eh?
WTF is to be gained by blowing up this warship?
or do they recover the ship once they have sunk it?
My my. Was that the ship he jumped onto with the codpiece?
Matt Damon!
Attaturking, that is. Coffee still brewing. Morning, early risers.
If only they would decide to do the same for this administration. They might learn a lot of information about hypocrisy, malfeasance, petty indignation, lying, and media manipulation. The lessons might help the next generation of Americans learn to recognize the incredibly evil and inept before they can do irreparable damage. (A mistake we cannot make again)
I am on my second cup of coffee
The Navy said in March that the explosive tests would provide valuable data on survivability for the next generation of aircraft carriers, which are now in development
As in the Chinese cruise missile hits when we blunder into war with them.
"Of all the carriers, that one should have been saved, just for the name America."
America sinking! Heh. Couldn't they find an SS Boosh to blow up?
DWD
Check the bottom of the thread below this for a suggestion on an item of prose for your school kids.
As in the Chinese cruise missile hits when we blunder into war with them.
jackpot!
So, when you repestedly blow up a ship, it will eventually sink. I never would have guessed!
Oh, and good morning, moonbats! It's another lovely day of carpentry here in lovely upstate NY.
what are you carpenting, NY Mary?
Speaking of America sinking, a hot-shot private school in New Delhi is putting on a docudrama called, "Guantanamo." Boosh Makes me so proud of my country.
Why not sink the USS Reagan? They could lash Nancy to the deck, her screaming, "Just say No!" as she "goes down" with the shit.
Wish the wholeadministration had been on it. I sure feel like I am.
Hey you guys, lay off the prezanitwit. He is only a figure head. Note how the protocols don't even call for him to be notified when the nation's capitol is under attack. He didn't know anything about this. He was too busy on the 78th day of his 60 day tour trying to convince people to give up the only safety net they have left. And oh yeah, trying to convince Arabs to blow up NYC. It's hard work.
I wonder if he even knows he has gone over the 60 days. I bet he doesn't. His handlers probably haven't gotten around to telling him. Just following protocol, ya know.
Gimlet, I read it: might be too heavy for the kids and it might be too heavy for me. I have a difficult time with sadness, though I have a deep appreciation of it.
When I wrote the Holocaust book - yes, the one I keep bookwhoring - I tried my best to ameleorate the sadness because to take in too much, can be damning to the individual. I am not sure of the origins of my distaste for this type of writing, but it does exist. I think it is because I am aware - much too aware - of the sadness of my children's lives. To reach into the darkness to pluck another feather from the bird of despair seems to be a task I am not willing to do.
But having said that, I truly appreciate your contribution. It is a worthy piece.
bigvic,
How much you want to bet that there's an SS Bush in the fleet under development? Named after his, uh, dad, no doubt. Destroying America to recreate it under tha nmae of Bush... I'm getting to like this metaphor!
re: docudrama called, "Guantanamo."
I read that times article too, and wished they had offered a video, would make lovely a 6:00 news blurb.
Hi, el. I'm tricking out an ordinary bed for my five year old: putting it on risers, adding a slide and a ladder and a safety bar. I have to finish stripping the existing bed and add the legs part today: the ladder is built, and the slide needs 2 more coats of high-gloss polyurethane. The main goal is to create storage space for his toys, but he thinks it's all about the slide, and that's okay by me.
NYMary,
The SS DearLeader will be a MONSTEROUSLY big ship, loaded with deceptive bombs and awesome power!
Matt. Damon.
bigvic,
Our new fleet will come fully equipped with those cardboard cutouts of sailors, as seen in Home Alone, and used so effectively by our troops in Iraq.
It has been certified that no Korean was flushed down the toilet. So, that's it then.
(When I read that, the thing about them using cardboard cutouts to make it look like they had more personnel than they actually do, I was livid. How the fuck does this maladministration sleep at night knowing that they chose to place too few, not well-equipped soldiers in harm's way? Grrrr. It's DWD-level of fury here.)
NYMary/Lissadell,
I was kind of thinking of you and Thers last night as he told of his "scholar" outfit he received as a Christmas present. I kind of sighed with a smile. I have a deep appreciation for those who continued the journey into other people's observations; somehow, I got distracted on my personal journey.
Instead of delving into what had already been wrought, I started journeying inside of my own mind. I am not a scholar and do not believe I am capable of being one; but I do seek wisdom within myself. I am not sure what that means. "Two roads diverged in a yellow wood" I guess. (But I am willing to bet you both looked postively impressive)
Why didn't they use icebergs?
They should have tried lowering taxes and geometrically increasing the pay for the Captain while they eliminated pensions, child care, health care and jobs for the crew and watched what happened.
morning, freethinkers.
well, we can't spend billions on new boats if we've got too many old ones still floating around out there...and it's not a flag, ok? only flags and "america" are the same, try to remember that.
there's a scene in the movie 'independence day' when one character, in response to the revelation that an advanced, secret gov't facility for the study of aliens exists deep beneath the ground, says "well, you didn't think they really spent $600 on a toilet seat!"
the pentagon spent, not lost, $2 trillion on top of the authorized trillions they spent of weapons and programs we hardly are able to ennumerate. most of us really don't know so much about where our military budget is going, or what a large portion of our expenditures such spending really is. in the scheme of things, sinking a large destroyer is small peanuts compared to what else they are 'developing.' i shudder to think of what other wasteful programs are receiving funding, with no such deep six plans in the forseeable future.
DWD,
Yeah, you piker. You chose the infinitely easier path of guiding young minds, of instilling them with a love of learning and language and their own history. Lazybones. 
I keed, I keed! I think what you do is exponentially more difficult. I taught high school for a year, and there's not enough money in the world to make me go back to a classroom where students are mandated to be. If my kids stop showing up, it's too bad, it's a waste of time and money, but ultimately they're grownups making a choice.
Having said that, the duds are indeed cool, though I did turn down Thers's offer to go to Hooters in our regalia afterward. If I'm going to Hooters, I'm going to take Rosie and nurse in public in protest.
The Navy sank the "America" to avoid the cost of having it dismantled. Saved maybe $20M to $40M. It contained PCBs and asbestos, among other things. Now it sleeps with the fishes.
Think about it..any number of tests could have been conducted on the ship without sinking it. Usually the Navy sinks obsolete ships by using them for target practice for the Navy aviators. The America could never have been sunk that way, so they invented the need for the explosive charges.
Glorious Dear Leader likes to call his servants "traitors" and "unpatriotic" when we disagree with his disasterous policies, but look how he trashed our country's reputation world wide. Makes me sick.
Impeach Bu$h! Now, before he fuck us up any more.
If I'm going to Hooters, I'm going to take Rosie and nurse in public in protest.
[the sound of a restaurant full of heads exploding in conflicted apoplexy]
I am on my second cup of coffee
cntodd | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 7:28 am | #
Still on my first, so I'm kind of pissy right now. I actually could sleep late, but what happens? Cat gets in my face, dog comes to the door and squeaks that she has to go out. I got up. Figured I should post something on my blog before heading out to my sis's for horseriding, then to my parents to visit, then back home to watch the Preakness on the boob-box. Busy busy busy...
"the pentagon spent, not lost, $2 trillion on top of the authorized trillions they spent of weapons and programs we hardly are able to ennumerate. most of us really don't know so much about where our military budget is going, or what a large portion of our expenditures such spending really is"
Wonder how much it cost to sink it ?
Coming on the heels of the stem cell veto, this is just another example of how the bought and paid for media looks past the hypocracy of current events.
Over the past 5 years, there are enough uncovered stories floating around out their to fill a major cities public library. Instead we get hate TV and hate radio jammed down our throat and stories about some whacko's underwear.
Oh, yeah, FU*K BUSH!
If I'm going to Hooters, I'm going to take Rosie and nurse in public in protest.
[the sound of a restaurant full of heads exploding in conflicted apoplexy]
underwhelm
Thers thinks I should get a bunch of my La Leche League buddies together for a "That's What They're For" protest.
NYMary,
What, and turn on all the rednecks? (I went to Hooters once and was so . . . embarassed? Disgusted? Disillusioned? Pitifully amused? that I never returned. But the teenage boys on the hockey team got a charge out of it.)
That is another source of my own personal outrage, thanks for noticing BTW, talking with Incognito the other night about his experiences with American males reminds me of how disgusting I truly find the majority of "men." Getting drunk, riding around in a pick up truck, and killing things hardly makes one a man. I think that is the origin of his disgust with heterosexuals. Most are so insecure about their own being that they have taken on affectations that are comical when viewed from the perspective of someone who truly understands.
Since this is a political blog, one can extrapolate further and place dear leader squarely in the realm of pickupdrivingdrunkenredneckfools. If a person understands themselves a little better, they can never accept the definition of manhood that our society seems to extol as a virtue. (And most men could not even understand this message. GRRRRR)
icebergs! hi elaine
Andy, don't forget ABC's 20/20 asking the tough questions
... about the ressurection of Jesus.
owl,
That does sound like a busy day, but fun!
As in the Chinese cruise missile hits when we blunder into war with them.
Was talking with an economist friend recently, and he thinks that all the debt owned by the Chinese actually increases the chance of some future war between the US and China-- gives the US reason to find some reason to villify them and freeze their assets.
And we all see how easily Americans are manipulated...
The America could never have been sunk that way, so they invented the need for the explosive charges.
Always Confused
Yikes! "Maximum damage" seems to be this admin's motto.
DWD, I'm serious when I say that both genders are unattainable, ridiculous parodies of themselves. Nobody seriously can stand a person as they approach full gender embodiment, yet each person feels compelled by society to strive anyway. I don't mind femininity or masculinity as long as a person is willing to wear them as a loose garment instead of like a flak jacket.
It's dumb when you see it for what it is. And it's positively nauseating when you realize that the conservadrones and rightists want us to be bound to them ever more securely.
Thank god for president bush.He gives hope to all the nitwits of the world.
"Of all the carriers, that one should have been saved, just for the name America."
America sinking! Heh. Couldn't they find an SS Boosh to blow up?
The Navy is in the process of building some new garbage scows now, so maybe in a few years you'll hear, "Bush went down with the trash!"
Good Morning, everyone.
underwhelm, Word.
DWD,
I don't always agree with Susan Faludi, but her book on men after feminism is decent.
I don't mind femininity or masculinity as long as a person is willing to wear them as a loose garment instead of like a flak jacket.
Testify, Brother underwhelm!
underwhelm, yep...last night on the way home from the store I heard in passing on the radio a Christian talking about his best friend who claimed he went to hell cause he died too fast and he counldn't save him.
My inlaws have said stuff like that to me about "their" freinds countless times and it makes me irate. That freaks me out.
I am a Christian and the way I look at it is no human has the right to judge where another human being is going. I think it is whats in your heart that determines where your soul goes.
This morning on CNN -emailers suggested that the undie pics of Saddam were released by enemies of the Bush administration and others who hate Anerica -my nominee for most ridiculous attempt to support Bush is the emailer "Diana"
I guess irony's not dead after all.
The Navy sank the "America" to avoid the cost of having it dismantled. Saved maybe $20M to $40M. It contained PCBs and asbestos, among other things. Now it sleeps with the fishes.
Which means all that shit is now poluting the ocean. Yeah, Mr Stewart of the Environment hits another grand slam!
And $40 million in this person's military is chikenshit. The suport crew that follows Big Dick around in case he needs his heart restarted probably cost that much each year.
Andy, here's my rule of thumb. Religion can be a great guide for personal conduct. It becomes worse than useless the second you attempt to impose it on someone else.
ny mary i am in upstate ny-hudson valley. do we really have a hooters around here?
WTF is to be gained by blowing up this warship?
Survivability data. We did the same thing with nukes back in the 50s.
I used to fly into Philly a lot and always thot it was cool when our approach took us over the navy yard...
It is my belief that writers, for whatever reason, do their most beneficial work when they keep delving for what I call transcending knowledge. There are universal truths, but they are rare. The area of sexuality is one of these: if we keep looking. Peering below the need for sexual expression and into the motivations for such expressions is one of these areas. Men seek comfort, women seek comfort: very little difference on an elemental level. It is the means of achieving such that separates us so deeply. But it is not that easy, is it? We take on the roles assigned to us and seek understanding in the expectations of others. That is the problem though, if we cannot differentiate our own needs and thoughts from those expectations that are painted upon our souls like second skin, then our hopes of realization become dreams made of ethereal dross without substance but with great importance. When we finally are able to separate the two: we are probably too old to actually find such information useful.
They should have tried lowering taxes and geometrically increasing the pay for the Captain while they eliminated pensions, child care, health care and jobs for the crew and watched what happened.
ROFLMAO.
Religion can be a great guide for personal conduct.
Great guide for carpentry, too. Just look what it did for Jesus' career!
Big Daddy, throw in the base closings costs which is the billions.
How much was the stem cell research bill asking for now ?
I have a friend who just truned 50 and was diagnosed with MS. He was at a conference where a well know doctor said that within 10 years they would have a cure but since its being nixed here in the US, he is leaving the country to continue his research.
When I heard about that veto yesterday it pissed me off to no end....the rethugs idea of stem cell research is permanent "feeding tubes"..
singe,
I'm west of you, in the Binghamton area. We sure do.
Hey, NTodd! Long time no see!
Hey NYMary, back at ya!
Great guide for carpentry, too. Just look what it did for Jesus' career!
Born twice, cut once?
You know, we toss around this question of "why does Bush hate America" with regularity, but stop and really think about it:
Here's a guy who was born with a silver spoon up his nose, who never did an honest day's work, who never had to strive to earn a living, who has always lived the high life on someone else's dime, who spent the vast majority (if not all) of his adult life as an alchoholic wastrel...and continually tells us that life is way too hard for the rich and powerful, which is why all of us who actually DO work and strive have to give up everything to make things easier on our "betters", most of whom "earned" their wealth through inheiritance.
That's not just a case of "hating America"; that's sociopathy.
Oh, and NYMary, can't you put down the hammer for a second and pick up the camera so we can see what Rosie's doing?
Born twice, cut once?
I'd hate to think it's the other way around...
Mornin 'bats, happy Saturday, DWD enjoying your thoughts, fuck bush, Guv Ehrlich vetoed gay partner visit medical bill yesterday and us MD fags are gonna make his life a living hell.
I dunno, DWD. We can always work on helping our kids to see the constructedness of gender roles and identities. I see kids whose parents are much more concerned about their boys doing girly things and their girls doing boy things, and the kids are nuts, seriously.
No surprise: these are my fundie relations.
When I heard about that veto yesterday it pissed me off to no end....the rethugs idea of stem cell research is permanent "feeding tubes"..
Andy | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 8:18 am | #
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Unless you're a poor black baby in Texas and the corporate hospital decides the expense of keeping you alive outweighs the mother's wishes and your life. Then they give you ten days and out come the tubes.
That's not just a case of "hating America"; that's sociopathy.
Actually, I don't think it's hating America at all. He's just fucking clueless about how his actions hurt everybody, and a sociopath: Narcissist Personality Disorder all the way.
Born twice, cut once?
underwhelm
Well, he was Jewish....
Jennifer: I've reduced that to Civil Society Is Too Liberal For The Rightists™.
They're all sociopaths because winning is the only thing of value, above all the institutions, mores and principles that make society work. GWB just happens to be their posterboy who likes to play dressup.
"It becomes worse than useless the second you attempt to impose it on someone else."
NY Mary...Perfectly said...exactly how I feel and have always felt. To me it's a private matter...The above action pushes people away rather than draws them in as I view it.
I was rasied catholic and converted to lutheran when I got married. My wife and I have always had liberal views of the world and I asked her one day looking around the large congregation if she thought there was another liberal amongst us...we looked at each other..then sat there in silence.
Well, he was Jewish....
The question is: can the Messiah become a born again Christian?
NTodd Thanks buddy!
Just heard Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute tell Scott Simon that nobody expected the kind of insurgency that has sprung up in Iraq.
Nobody. Is he an idiot or a world class liar?
Scott Simon didn't ask the simplest follow up question including that just about everyone in the anti-war movement with any knowlege predicted just about everything that has happened after Bush launched is war of conquest.
Do we really need an NPR which is this stupid?
Just heard Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute tell Scott Simon that nobody expected the kind of insurgency that has sprung up in Iraq.
Shut UP! He is a world class lying idiot.
owl,
That does sound like a busy day, but fun!
NYMary/Lissadell | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 8:04 am | #
Busy - yup - fun - yup Finally started my second cuppa coffee, too!
Well, he was Jewish....
I knew there had to be a way to make that gag work 100%.
unerwhelm- very nice.
As in the Chinese cruise missile hits when we blunder into war with them.
Was talking with an economist friend recently, and he thinks that all the debt owned by the Chinese actually increases the chance of some future war between the US and China-- gives the US reason to find some reason to villify them and freeze their assets.
i'm betting that there's no way the upcoming generation is going to be willing to pay off the debt their parents allowed to accumulate while also paying for the parents' medical care and room & board in the post-SS future. the revolution isn't going to happen because of people like us (those of us over 30 here) but because today's lazy, uniformed, spoiled, tv addicted x-box playing egoists known as the next generation are utterly incapable of living up to the requirements such fiscal discipline would impose.
and war? let's try to keep in mind that the chinese make or control the production of a significant portion of the 'little parts' that keep all our fancy ships and guns and planes operating. all they have to do to subdue us is to stop shipping the plastic junk.
Dear Leader's thought for the day is:
"I am coming to your town to promote my agenda."
Actually, I have a confession here. My last novel concerned such issues as gender and the nature of creativity and the relationships between men and women and youth and age and other seemingly contradictory elements that contribute to the quilt that is our world. (I have had my readers give me reviews - almost to a person they say, "It is beautifully written." I take that to mean, "She has a lovely personality." Ah well, it was only two years of my life. )
Rosie's sawing toothpicks, NTodd. Not so interesting. But she's had an active week, getting the crawling thing perfected and discovering that dandelions will come off in your hand if you yank them!
Attaturk--That story isn't a metaphor--it's either a metonym or symbolism.
the US spends more on it's military thatn the whole rest of the world combined...
that explains a lot!
OT: Tierney today...talking about star wars and how the 'empire' is what adam Smith said back in the day...adam smith is/was a fucking loser! Thomas Paine - that was a real patriot - that is why hardly no one quotes paine - to real and too smart!
Shut UP! He is a world class lying idiot.
bigvic
Yes he is.
A new theory (based in a quick perusal of Loren Thompson phD's scribblings) Anyone who starts a mini-essay by bragging about having spent time reading The Federalist is an idiot who has not observed daylight in quite a time.
Rosie's sawing toothpicks, NTodd. Not so interesting.
Sleeping babies are veh cute.
Sharkbabe
Give them an extra kick in the balls for me. Please, I will be in your debt. God I hate these motherfuckers. (There that's twice I've written that word.) After the Cessna incident I had a few days where the hate left and I thought I was actually cured of this burden I have been carrying in the deepest region of my heart for five years. Then I listened to ten minutes of the so called debate on the Senate floor and read the story in the NY times. We had no business sending a 21 year old to Afghanistan with almost no training, then telling him what little training he received concerning the Geneva Convention no longer applied. That kid will spend a large portion of his life in prison, and an innocent taxi driver is dead after being tortured in the most grusome manner.
The Newshour added ten names last night to the list of servicemen killed in Iraq. All but one was in their twenties. One poor kid was 19. Hate is too mild a word.
Do we really need an NPR which is this stupid?
I didn't leave NPR, NPR left me.
It becomes worse than useless the second you attempt to impose it on someone else.
Word to that.
That's not just a case of "hating America"; that's sociopathy.
Jennifer
You are correct, dear one. WTF does that say about Dear Leader's fans? I don't get it that otherwise sane people accept his policy and thinke he's a good christian. The man is an insane clown.
mogwai - yeah, I blogged about Tierney's tripe at 5 AM when I finally had to altruistically get up and let the cat out because the selfish bastard kept bugging me as soon as the birds started singing.
cd,
There was an op-ed by Kristof in the NYT a couple of weeks or so ago, "The Greediest Generation." Basically he was arguing that the baby boomers are as self-centered now as they were in their 20's and 30's, not thinking about what came before them or will come after them. Narcissistic indeed.
(I checked, you have to pay to read it now. Bah.)
Andy - My favorite response to the "you're going to HAIL" types is to say:
"Oh, so what you're telling me is that while you claim to believe in a God that is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, and the supreme arbiter of morality, what you really believe is that He's not capable of judging sin and meting out appropriate punishment, and needs your help with that? You can do what God is incompetent to do? Did it ever occur to you that such sentiment betrays an appalling lack of faith in the God you claim to worship?"
Then just stand back and look at the blank-n-bovine expression on their face.
DWD,
Did you post some sections of that book here? It was beautifully written, but I wouldn't take that as a "like a brother" style put-down.
Folks, This may have been mentioned by someone before. I just opened the weekend NY Times, the Sunday mag falls out and guess who is on the cover?
It's Rick Santorum.. The senator from a place called faith! He looks oh so pious! I haven't read the article yet, but this is just a heads up. Good I had not had anything to eat/drink yet cos I almost heaved after seeing the image! Enjoy your Saturday fellow Atriots!
grytpype | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 8:32 am | #
NOOOOOOoooooooo!
but because today's lazy, uniformed, spoiled, tv addicted x-box playing egoists known as the next generation
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Uhm. I have two daughters. One is currently doing humanitarian work in Africa and the other is getting ready to go to law school, hoping to specialize in gay advocacy. There are many more out there like that.
oldwhitelady
I love you.
QL, You have raised two fine daughters. You should be very proud! And as i mentioned yesterday.. libuhruhl women.. smart, intelligent and therefore in my eyes beautiful!
Downloading Parts: The Clonus Horror and Jack Frost right now. =D
Isn't today the Calvin College commencement speech ? Bet we don't hear a word about that one in the SCLM.
After that it's back to the billion dollar rock concert SS tour with the next stop a sold out Greece visit performed in front of 3000 pre screened loyatly oathed twenty something fans.
Imagine if we had put all the tax payers money spent on base closings, ship sinking, and the whirlwind SS tour into the file cabinet of worthless Treasury IUO's. We might have bought ourselves a couple of more years on that alone.
cd & QL,
I think the point is that these dim bulbs are fomenting generational warfare. Older generations have to be, well, grownups, make hard choices to preserve the world for those coming behind them, whether they are their own kids or not. The crew currently in control has given over that charge, and when the younger generation gets hip to the fact that they've been left with a destabilized world and a load of bills, things will get ugly.
NYMary, the only pieces I posted were in the dregs of winter as the storms assailed us Northerners. I think it was called softcore porn. I think it dig get everyone a little warmer though.
But this is a tiny piece as well,
" In addition to this realization, he also knew that this lack of acceptance of society’s dictates was merely one facet of the new reality that had been imposed upon his life. There were many others that begged for equal consideration.
David understood that most of lives are an exercise in equating emotional states with the perceived reality of living. And while our sensual existence is only a portion of this experience, it is arguably the most important one. David now believed that only in the interaction of our sensual existence with our intellectual existence is a complete life realized. This was a significant change, and it was enhancing his writing with shades of emotion and passion he had never even considered.
It has been David’s experience that the world has ways of beating down our sensual existence to the point of extinction. It was a fact, that David now understood, that religions instead of being forces for the reconcilement of individual expectations of pleasure and an ethereal acceptance of a higher force, instead worked at cross-purposes. Instead of trying to simply trying to help us find our way to understanding, the predominant religious thought dictated that we should refuse to follow our yearnings and instead accept the limitations that those who perceive all pleasure as hedonism and all representations of our inner thoughts as being pornographic, impose upon us. Because of the significance of such thought and action: society acquiesced to these beliefs and increased the penalties for those who ignored such constraints."
underwhelm,
Whence!?!?!?!
We talk about GW Drunky McCokespooon like he's an actual entity with an actual thought about anything. He is a cardboard placard. He doesn't even really exist except for being a person who falls off segways and cares more about himself and his enabled image and bicyling than his own wife. These people are all some sad shit on a human level. It amazes me that anyone, whether us or them, regards this person as our leader.
When I look at the daily ever-furthered venality and viciousness of "Bush," it's cheney and money and the mindlessness of money and power I see. Cokehead braindead president doesn't even exist, he's a retarded child (apologies to actual retarded humans) who wakes up every morning thinking, "I've got my own plane!"
Yeah, excellant gender role discussion. But people, we really should take it easy on our dear leader...after all, no one could have predicted that the situation in Iraq could have become so insurgent, or that the tax cuts might not have improved the economy, etc.
Thank goodness for tierney
I had no idea dan rather was a hero of the lefty leftist liberals. I never knew, nobody told me. And, the guy from cnn, I didn't know he was a leader of the lefties and my hero. Again, nobody told, I never even heard of the guy before.
Thank goodness for tierney, now I know I'm all about the new star wars movie.
I can't wait till the times charges for that crap.
Irony? Stoopid? Just unbelievable?
The U.S. military in Baghdad said the publication of the photos violated U.S. military guidelines "and possibly Geneva Convention guidelines for the humane treatment of detained individuals."
The US argues that the pictures of Saddam violate the Geneva Convention. How quaint.
Sleeping babies are veh cute.
NTodd
Yeah, but she's cuddled up next to Dad,who would murder me if I posted *his* sleeping picture....
The Digital Archive Project, specifically an FTP server for which I had to seek the IP address on an IRC channel...
ftp://mst3k@194.47.165.108:108/MST3K/
the password is tomservo
I imagine these things move around without notice, which is why they tell you to check the IRC channel. This server has been available for months now and I've got it bookmarked for when I have a craving.
Yeah, but she's cuddled up next to Dad,who would murder me if I posted *his* sleeping picture....
Can't you just photoshop Thers out of the picture? And why the hell isn't he doing the carpentry? WHO WEARS THE PANTS IN YOUR FAMILY?
Anyone who starts a mini-essay by bragging about having spent time reading The Federalist is an idiot who has not observed daylight in quite a time.
EPTXoloitzcuintle
Oh, no. Not another one of those. NPR suxs. Who books their guests, KKKarl Rove?
Anyone who starts a mini-essay by bragging about having spent time reading The Federalist is an idiot who has not observed daylight in quite a time.
Uh, I've read the Fed papers, and I see daylight right now.
WHO WEARS THE PANTS IN YOUR FAMILY?
Don't ask questions you don't want answered, boyo.
Seriously, I used to be a professional carpenter, and I love it a lot and find it amazingly relaxing. Thers can do some of it, but his passion for it isn't the same as mine, so the home repair (and, this summer, roofing--ulp!) is mine by default. If it helps the Krazy Kristians, though, he mows the lawn and takes out the garbage.
Oh, poop, underwhelm, it's not working for me.
Good thing I have Parts on VHS!
Isn't The Federalist an altogether different animal than the Federalist Papers? The latter of which are the series of Hamilton-n-Madison papers which basically lay out the conflicting views of the role of government allegedly held by the two major opposition parties, whatever their names, ever since.
It's Rick Santorum.. The senator from a place called faith! He looks oh so pious! I haven't read the article yet, but this is just a heads up.
Damn. That was a mighty fine breakfast I just lost.
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Thanks - and same back at you 
NYMary - congrats, for all my home-improvement skills, carpentry is the one I've never been able to master.
Just call me "the Wood Butcher".
BTW, if anyone out there really feels the need to write, the origins of thought are funny. I still have Don Henley's line from The Boys of Summer floating in my head. (I doubt he wanted it to set off the firestorm in my mind that has been going on for years now. Someday I will be able to couch all of these thoughts into a book. But not yet.) It is really simple, but sort of sums up human sexuality, "I can see you, your brown skin shining in the sun, I see you walking real slow, and smiling at everyone."
Now that is a study: why is she walking real slow? Why is she, obviously, flaunting her sexuality and then reveling in it? What is her purpose in doing so? If the circumstances were reversed, would HE do the same? Why does she feel the need to be admired? Is this admiration a need for certification? Is this certification something that is to be desired? If she can only define herself by seek certification for her own sexuality, what are the intellectual ramification of reducing herself to an icon of womanhood? and on and on and on and on
My friend's 21-yo daughter is a hell-for -leather leftie interning at some welfare rights joint in Philly. The kids are all right and will only grow more so. My nephews are prime cannon-fodder-drool targets of the PNAC. But they read books. The kids are gonna kick Cheneyism ass. The kids are gonna save what's left of this country.
Isn't The Federalist an altogether different animal than the Federalist Papers? The latter of which are the series of Hamilton-n-Madison papers which basically lay out the conflicting views of the role of government allegedly held by the two major opposition parties, whatever their names, ever since.
The Federalist is the nickname for the collected papers. And both Hamilton and Madison wrote in support of the Constitution in the New York press under the name Publius when the nation was still under the Articles of Confederation.
Oh, John Jay also wrote a few of the Papers.
QL- i have no doubt that your children, like those of every other Atriot including my newphew, will be the very model of the values you espouse here, and thus the definition of good, compassionate, contributing people.
i'm in between 'generations.' i have a lot of younger and older friends, but few my age. same for my folks, they're a mix of "greatest" and "hippy." so these labels tend to be less useful to me. what i'm talking about is simply the numbers. all of here could have mormon relations and produce 25 kids per household, and it still wouldn't be enough. ~400m people are going to be dealing with issues in the next two decades that will require enormous social discipline and change; i don't have high hopes for a smooth transition.
i work with kids, high schoolers, and i get to see the best. i know what they represent, and it doesn't seem to me to bode well. i take equal blame as a member of "my" generation, but i've been an activist all my life. what today's kids are doing, preparing for, learning- it scares me. i don't want to live in Rwanda or Chile.
The Federalist Scociety is a vast right wing bat shit crazy bunch of folks like Clarence Thomas and Scalia. Nuf said.
DWD - you know, you could just imagine a hot chick walking slowly in the sun and leave it at that...
NYMary, you're very lucky. I lost half of my MST3k in a breakup, if you can believe it.
Try it later, maybe there's a limit on the number of connections. They've got seasons 1-10 and some KTMA episodes, too (I remember watching the original airing of Superdome and City on Fire)
Jennifer, good response.
Those glazed looks you get are due to the fact you went beyond the attention span and introspective abilities of the black and white hard core fundies.
Recently I was flying into town from trip and glanced at the large city below and all I could think of was how tiny everything looked from the air and in Gods eyes we are just ants.
Then I thought about Iraq (and other wars ) and how sad it is. We in essence are just ants killing ants for "property" and "power".
How any of us will be judged is not up to me. And if someone chooses to beleive in something else, is an evolutionist or is an athiest, thats their right. It's whats in their
heart that counts and makes up their soul which is what I beleive lives on.
NTodd - gotcha. I've never heard it referred to as "the Federalist" and thought it sounded suspiciously like "the Heritage Foundation" or "the National Review" or some other such.
NYMary - okay, now for the ultimate question: who wears the Spiderbabe underoos in your family?
Regardless, cool that you're so handy! I used to be, but I avoid HI work as much as I can. Did lots of woodworking projects back when I was in 4-H long ago, and now would rather pick up the phone than the hammer. Laziness, thy name is NTodd.
Okay, okay NTodd. She's blogged.
You've gotta love that little rosebud of a mouth.
Ntodd, GOD, IF ONLY I COULD! But I guess I am known by some of my friends as the "everanalyzer" for a reason. (SIGH)
Jennifer,
I teach and I write, both of which, as DWD can attest, are somewhat fuzzy career paths--that is, you can't really see anything changing in front of you, you just have to trust that sending something out into the void will have an effect.
But carpentry is great. Here's a thing. I do a thing to it. Now that first thing is some other thing that didn't exist before. It's very satisfying and simple, in that sense.
Marx actually has a whiole theory about this, but I'm too lazy to look it up.
The Federalist Scociety is a vast right wing bat shit crazy bunch of folks
No argument there.
NYMary, Rosie is looking especially cute this morning. Oh, and I think I am guilty of discrimination in music as well. Not really sure why because I love to hear women sing, there just are not that many around per your comment.
I am known by some of my friends as the "everanalyzer" for a reason.
I sympathize.
NYMary, you're very lucky. I lost half of my MST3k in a breakup, if you can believe it.
Just one of many reasons why Thers and I can never, ever get divorced....
You've gotta love that little rosebud of a mouth.
What an angel. And still sleeping at 9 a.m.? Both of my daughters slept in on the weekends when they were young. Which meant we all got to.
Mornin', moobats. Another lovely day in Michigan.
When I read Atrios's post, I thought he was referring to this.
Jennifer - no worries.
NYMary - yay! I knew being a PITA would pay off someday, somehow.
Holy crap, pie! That's terrifying! When they decide MoveOn and The DCCC and the ACLU are terrorist organizations, I guess they'll round us all up.
perfectly fitting that its the military that sinks "America"...
on the bushcriminal's watch...
with a repukelican controlled government.
NYMary, you're very lucky. I lost half of my MST3k in a breakup, if you can believe it.
Anyone tries taking my MST3K collection will lose a limb or two.
I did read that, pie.
The proposals reflect efforts by the administration and Senate Republicans to bolster and, in some ways, broaden the power of the bureau to fight terrorism, even as critics are seeking to scale back its authority under the law known as the USA Patriot Act.
Anyone voting for this POS should be tried for treason. Terrorism, my ass.
Morning, rational people.
So, "America" is sleeping with the fishies.
Nice, sophisticated use of irony accompanied by sufficiently dramatic visuals.
Egad, the military decision makers really are as stupid as the Resident.
Scott Simon on NPR placing the blame on Newsweek as we speak...
That's terrifying!
Marcia Hofmann, a lawyer for the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a public interest group here, said the proposal "certainly opens the door to abuse in our view."
"The Postal Service would be losing its ability to act as a check on the F.B.I.'s investigative powers," Ms. Hofmann said.
Word, NYMary.
"What an angel. And still sleeping at 9 a.m.? Both of my daughters slept in on the weekends when they were young. Which meant we all got to."
Pie, my little 3 month old guy is still in bed at 8:10 but I had the 5:15 am feeding and once I'm up it's over. At least my wife got to sleep in today.
We still havn't made it through the night yet.
Spoke too soon..just started babbling...
Having MST3K on tape is invaluable, since, because of rights issues, there are some which they can't release on DVD, as I understand it. I wasn't a supergeek from the *very* beginning; I think I started taping them weekly around 93 or so. I've never counted how many we have, but it's a lot.
SNOTT SIMON'S a lying, careless, mealymouthed motherfucker...Dan Schorr's a senescent old fool...
Morning moonbats...
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Andy,
How old is the Babbler?
Scott Simon on NPR placing the blame on Newsweek as we speak...
He's blaming Newsweakling for sinking USS America? Man, these people are NUTS!
We still havn't made it through the night yet.
You won't believe the happiness you'll feel when you wake up one morning and realize that you slept straight through (after rushing to the crib to make sure the baby's breathing!!!) Maybe that happiness was just a rush of adrenaline...
He's blaming Newsweakling for sinking USS America?
He might as well be.
that ship is a whole lot of precious
scrap metal,
much needed in the steel indusry,
ask china.
Somebody hold me back so I don't beat the shit out of Scott Simon. I'd like to open a can of tsunamis on that idiot. WTF is wrong with him?
Mary, 3 1/4 months...goes down great at night after feedings but still feeds every 4 to 5 hours..
He just discovered his voice the last couple of weeks and doesn't sleep much during the day. Always has to be doing something.
Somebody hold me back so I don't beat the shit out of Scott Simon. I'd like to open a can of tsunamis on that idiot. WTF is wrong with him?
I'd like to help out, but I have too many things to do today.
BTW, NYMary, do you see the problem with the last book? Writing a hundred thousand words on the consideration of creativity and the "stuff" below our overt sexuality leaves most people - bored to tears.(And that is not intended as a criticism, it is a reality that those of us who get lost in the minutia of living have to reconcile all of the time. Like NTodd says, Why can't you just see a hot chick? Indeed.)
okay, moonbats. Off to my heat gun and paint scraper. Keep up the good fight!
Wtaertiger.. must you make my breakfast come up by posting mugs of Condiliar Rice on your blog? Like your blog though . Clear blue skies in CT here, wonder what outrages the assministration will throw at us today?
I lost half of my MST3k in a breakup
oh man, that's more heartbreaking than shakespeare, more fucked up than kafka, funnier than bill hicks.
CD
You're right. But what may save us is the backlash. I grew up in an open, artistic household in a poor section of NYC. The values espoused were seemingly unreal. Fourteen year old girls getting married because they were knocked up and couldn't bring shame on their families by having a baby out-of-wedlock and abortion was illegal. I personally knew at least 5 girls who were married and parents by age 17. I couldn't tell my grandmother that I was living in sin with my boyfriend (later husband). Then came the sixties, birth control and legal abortion. The fundies are still fighting all that. Once the kids learn their parents lied about one thing, it will call into doubt the whole shebang. I think we are already seeing that with the enlistment rates. Parents and children are unwilling to sacrifice for this insane war of choice.
Wtaertiger? OOps meant Watertiger.. but you get the idea!
Thers thinks I should get a bunch of my La Leche League buddies together for a "That's What They're For" protest.
Love it! I wish someone would do this for real.
I don't mind femininity or masculinity as long as a person is willing to wear them as a loose garment instead of like a flak jacket.
I like this, can I borrow (with attribution of course)?
I woke up thinking about how the military-industrial complex is literally devouring all life and nobody sees or cares. Eisenhower. Everybody loved his big military dick but when he spoke from experience about what's what, they hit the mute button.
karmic_jay,
I feel it's my doodie to bear witness to the multiple horrors of Condi's mug.
That being said, I like to share, too.
Where in CT are you? It's positively springlike in NYC. Watching the sparrows landing on my fire escape with nest-building materials, and somewhere nearby, a mockingbird is singing.
Only a true fool would mess with La Leche League.
I don't think that someone breastfeeding a baby would turn on the Hooters' bunch. Any reminder that their activities could entail responsibility would probabaly be a real turnoff.
Though the infantilist trolls who plague us could be driven wild.....
with jealousy.
When will the domestic blowback start to hit the fan from the red states? These angry simpletons think that Rush Oxypig is going to let them camp out at his estate in Florida when they run out of blue state welfare checks. I'm praying for the collapse......See Argentina.
or do they recover the ship once they have sunk it?
Just got around to reading the top of the thread.
Halliburton, no doubt, will be employed to do the raising.
Can we come up with a short list of journalists working in the DC area who AREN'T whores for the oligarchy?
I say a short list believing that a long one would be impossible.
Watertiger, I am in New Haven. It is so gorgeous out here. Have a graduation party to go to in the afternoon. Hope the rain stays away!
I lost half of my MST3k in a breakup
OH NO!!!
Was it over "Joel vs. Mike"?
Can we come up with a short list of journalists working in the DC area who AREN'T whores for the oligarchy?
Thomas Oliphant.
Good morning, moonbats.
What's the Bush outrage of the hour?
Was it over "Joel vs. Mike"?
Joel was far superior, in my opinion.
Thomas Oliphant.
Tom Toles.
Are there people out there TRYING to think of just one who isn't a whore?
Hard isn't it.
Public radio won't have a decent national news source until it's based outside the DC, NYC, LA, media brothels.
For now Vicki, it is the sinking of USS America the decommissioned warship.
Well, that's two.
I want to know why it couldn't have been recycled in some way?
MYOB'
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I think the jump the shark moment happened for the blogs when the biggest names (Atrios, Kos, John A.)started summering in Europe.
What about Walter Pinkus (sp?) of the WAPO? He is usually buried in the inside pages though. Dont forget Dan Froomkin too!
Good morning all you overnighting peeps. Lovely here in Phoenix, bright blue sky, birds shreiking, power tools humming in the distance, a balmy 79F and only one non-precipitation extreme weather advisory so far. Going to make some scrambled eggs and green chile and see if Arthur game for a little neighborhood ramble before the pavement scorches his feets.
I think Pincus tries, but his stuff keeps getting put on page A18. But that is not an endorsement, just a note that he tries occasionally
Eisenhower. Everybody loved his big military dick but when he spoke from experience about what's what, they hit the mute button.
Sharkbabe -9:38 am
well, okay, if ya think so...
for me, it's significant that he waited til he could no longer effect the course of events to reveal his analysis. Also, it should be noted, he was alleged to have included the State in the equation: "The Military Industrial State" was in fact unspeakable...
Eisenhower perfected the National Security/Military Industrial State, with the enthusiastic cooperation and participation of the DUlles brothers, two of the most notorious fascist fuckers this country ever bred.
I always thought it was crocodile tears...
GWPDA, Irate Scholar, while wheezing my life away in the pollen and mold spore saturated air of springtime in New England, the desert seems like it could be a good idea.
How do you survive among all of the Republicans who inhabit it?
I think the point is that these dim bulbs are fomenting generational warfare.
Divide and conquer. It's a conscious strategy, employed in this case toward dismantling Social Security. Get those under 40 all foamed up about the baby boomers and soon it's "why should we work to support THEM?"
Dej pseu (cause they are your parents?)
Later, Moonbats, been interesting as always.
Later folks.. Enjoy your day
Was it over "Joel vs. Mike"?
Joel was far superior, in my opinion.
watertiger
I'm a true, like them both equally guy.
That makes about four. If the Eschaton readers can't come up with more they probabaly don't exist.
Facts and figures:
John Keegan proposed that WW1 combatant nations suffered collapse once their casualties reached 100% of deployed military strength. The soldiers realized that they were doing a job that meant certain death. The French mutineed when their casualty levels hit the million mark, the Italian likewise, the Russians went into open revolution when they hit the millions. (The British army and the German army tended to keep cohesion inspite of massive casualties. Maybe because both firmly expected victory. Keggan couldn't addequatly explain their resilience...) This sort of rough arithmetic could suggest the reason for Bush's dropping popularity and the flagging support for war...
It seems to me that the everyday civilian has decided to not enlist because they've made a similar calculation--The chance that they will be worm fodder is too big to ignore. There are about 100,000 US troops in Iraq. There have been about 14,000 casualties due to combat. A cursory reading from the force level shows that American troops have been decimated by Iraq. No wonder enlistment rates are dropping.
Good Morning....
CNN has a piece this morning about she differs from the White House on the blame being placed on Newsweek for rioting and that the President should have been notified of the plane scare when he was on his afternoon bike ride.
I don't think you could ever make me believe that Laura Bush is anything but another part of the propaganda machine. The Bush Administration's clearly been at odds with the majority of Americans and she is simply trying to soften the tone.
Once again though, the MSM has taken the White House press release, changed the header and called it news.
The Dulles brothers were good Christians, though. So it's all OK.
Hey.
I view the allergens and cold weather 50% of the time as an adequate price to pay to live amongst the relatively sane.
Joel was far superior, in my opinion.
Absolutely. And cuter too. I stopped watching after Joel left.
How do you survive among all of the Republicans who inhabit it?
EPTXoloitzcuintle - Odd you should ask that. I was just reviewing the history of the Arizona Democratic Party, with such notables as Buckey O'Neill, who formed the Rough Riders, and Mayor Morris Goldwater of Prescott, John P. Frank, the Udall boys of St. John and Tucson, of course, the Babbitts, Napolitano, the Goddards.... Up until 1948 this was a purely Democratic state and it's moving back to that now. How do I survive now? With a Democratic Governor not one bit afraid to veto nonsense, and the knowledge that the Republicans that are here now will soon enough evaporate in the glories of the season. They tend to return to places like Ohio and Pennsylvania about now....
Humidity today to be about 8%. However, mesquite pollen's a little high.
THIS will chill you.
Read it and remember Prescott Bush...
all i'm sayin...
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Well the humidity is a low 90% here in N. Florida. Can I trade you for the 8%?
I hope this bumbling bunch of boobs remembered to remove the crew first.
Absolutely. And cuter too. I stopped watching after Joel left.
Had SUCH a crush on Joel.
Mike was just a little too . . . corn-fed . . . for my tastes.
Read it and remember Prescott Bush...
Why that traitor didn't die in prison for washing Fritz Thyssen's Nazi money speaks volumes against the notion that we have a government of, by and for the people.
deja pseu: By all means.
I knew a bit about Galloway. He had had to resign as the head of a charity called "War on Want," after repaying some disputed expenses for living the high life in dirt-poor countries. Indeed, he was a type well known in the Labour movement. Prolier than thou, and ostentatiously radical, but a bit too fond of the cigars and limos and always looking a bit odd in a suit that was slightly too expensive. By turns aggressive and unctuous, either at your feet or at your throat; a bit of a backslapper, nothing's too good for the working class: what the English call a "wide boy." . . . Galloway says that the worst day of his entire life was the day the Soviet Union fell. His existence since that dreadful event has involved the pathetic search for an alternative fatherland. He has recently written that, "just as Stalin industrialised the Soviet Union, so on a different scale Saddam plotted Iraq's own Great Leap Forward." I love the word "scale" in that sentence. I also admire the use of the word "plotted." . . .
Perhaps I may be allowed a closing moment of sentiment here? To the left, the old East End of London was once near-sacred ground. It was here in 1936 that a massive demonstration of longshoremen, artisans, and Jewish refugees and migrants made a human wall and drove back a determined attempt by Sir Oswald Mosley's Blackshirts to mount a march of intimidation. The event is still remembered locally as "The Battle of Cable Street." That part of London, in fact, was one of the few place in Europe where the attempt to raise the emblems of fascism was defeated by force.
And now, on the same turf, there struts a little popinjay who defends dictatorship abroad and who trades on religious sectarianism at home. Within a month of his triumph in a British election, he has flown to Washington and spat full in the face of the Senate. A megaphone media in London, and a hysterical fan-club of fundamentalists and political thugs, saw to it that he returned as a conquering hero and all-round celeb. If only the supporters of regime change, and the friends of the Afghan and Iraqi and Kurdish peoples, could manifest anything like the same resolve and determination.
FYI: [b]Bill Moyers on C-Span now![/b]
Fake Thers - really hate that he made Norm Coleman look like petulant child who lost his spot on the team to the poor kid who was better than him, eh?
If only the supporters of regime change, and the friends of the Afghan and Iraqi and Kurdish peoples, could manifest anything like the same resolve and determination.
OMG. What asshole wrote that piece of drivel?
Meteorological Report, high Chihuahuan Desert, May 21, 2005, 0800 MDT
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I hate the busheviks. Do not call them an "administration." They are a 'regime', a 'junta.' But they are NOT a legitimate administration...
OT -
Bill Moyers is kicking ass all over CSPAN right now - Just announced he may come out of retirement back to anchoring.
He's going mideval on the religious right and Bushco.
Check it out - it's quality TeeVee.
I loved Joel and cried when he left. But his spirit lived on in the show, even though they made a conscious decision to have fewer riffs-per-minute under Mike. Mike being able to carry a tune helped.
She basically kept all the stuff we taped while we were together (including Clonus and Deathstalker), and I hung onto the stuff I fell asleep to in high school (Santa Claus Conquers the Martians and Attack of the the Eye Creatures). But I knew someday I could replace them and I'll avoid confrontation pretty adroitly...
I think the jump the shark moment happened for the blogs when the biggest names (Atrios, Kos, John A.)started summering in Europe.
Gregor Samsa
Besides the fact that people can vacation wherever the fuck they want to , it's not even summer yet. And Kos was right here in NYC just the other day.
Yes NYC, where it's just lovely.
If only the supporters of regime change, and the friends of the Afghan and Iraqi and Kurdish peoples, could manifest anything like the same resolve and determination.
(fake)Thersites | 10:18 am
yet none of which facts, assumedly known and widely reported in old Blightey, prevented him from being elected again to Parliament?
how so?
are we to think him the rough equivalent of Tom DeLay (albeit without the power)???
And now, on the same turf, there struts a little popinjay who defends dictatorship abroad and who trades on religious sectarianism at home.
... and his name was George W. Bush. And now you know...
the rest of the story.
Woody, Albuquerque's having the spring we had two weeks ago - oh it was lovely, lovely.
Besides the fact that people can vacation wherever the fuck they want to
It's a joke. Cut back on the Starbucks.
... and his name was George W. Bush
Who was thrown into the deep end on 9/11, having only his wits to survive.
Well, that and four set of water wings, three life vests, the world's biggest inflatable raft, and a pink bathing cap.
It's a joke. Cut back on the Starbucks.
Gregor Samsa -10:30 am
wrongly: but not a lot of people get Kafka-esque humor, gregor..
just sayin'...
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That fake Thersites post sounded a lot like Christopher Hitchens having a hissy fit. What?
It is about time we caught bin laden dead or alive...
That fake Thersites post sounded a lot like Christopher Hitchens having a hissy fit. What?
HoneyBearKelly -10:36 am
Too sober...Hitch cannot muster such coherence anymore...
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The Lump has a pretty nice rack.
She could be a wildcat in the sack.
She has a shapely ass.
Why does Chimpy pass
Her up for a horse sausage snack?
Yikes!
Whooping Cough is a problem in Arizona.
Sheesh...I hadn't heard about whooping cough in years! What's happening?
'scuse me, but scout prime, if you're around I sent you a reply.
If someone's going to fake post as an English professor, the least *it* could do would be to write well.
Fake Thersites is like a fake orgasm. Worthless.
'scuse me, but scout prime, if you're around I sent you a reply.
des -- 10:43 am
dahlin, 'round here, you can plumb barge in anywhere that charming gamin smile pleases to project yuh, 'sfar's i'm concerned!
And now, on the same turf, there struts a little popinjay who defends dictatorship abroad and who trades on religious sectarianism at home.
Beggars can't be choosers and as a political force in this country, the left are a bunch of beggars.
I'm not surprised that Galloway is a regular SOB and flaunts the good life of a leftist politician while championing the causes of the lower classes.
Right now, I don't care. It's about time someone on the left hit back. Despite Galloway's questionable ethics, he's a minor leaguer compared to Norm "I look like Lurch" Coleman. Given the total absence of ethics and morality of the GOP, one wonders if Paul Wellstone's plane crash was really an "accident" and, if not, how much of a hand Coleman had in the affair.
Sheesh...I hadn't heard about whooping cough in years! What's happening?
Diane - the story is that the booster shots that were used for kids now around 18 didn't prove to provide complete or terribly longterm protection. Arizona just happens to have a large number of cases this year - I'm sure the problem will rotate thru every other state as well. 'Course, those states which have had to gut their public health systems may have a little problem providing the new form of immunisation....
Morning all.
des just got here. Will go check my email
Kafka-esque?
More like Dalton Ross.
des
I'm at work and for some reason when I go check mail remotely not all messages show up.
'Course, those states which have had to gut their public health systems may have a little problem providing the new form of immunisation....
GWPDA, Irate Scholar
Unfortunately (and as usual), you are correct.
Pertussis damned near killed me as an infant. I'd hate to see this reach epidemic proportions, but with cuts in Medicaid, and states going broke, I agree that this is going to be a dangerous problem.
Whooping cough, by the way, is incredibly contagious.
Given the total absence of ethics and morality of the GOP, one wonders if Paul Wellstone's plane crash was really an "accident"
Smarmin' Narm Coleman, Bush's puppet, would not be in the Senate had Wellstone not died in a plane crash.
There isn't much to wonder. One need merely ask cui bono?
WELLSTONE WAS MURDERED. That much should be painfully obvious to anyone who can add 2+2.
Too funny! Thanks for the laugh with my coffee.
http://asilentcacophony.blogspot.com/
Diane - yes, that's why Arizona is concentrating on re-immunising the older cadre - the babies receiving their normal shots aren't going to be spreading the disease, while the teenagers easily could. My brother, Bunny-Bunny was actually hospitalised and isolated for whooping cough - he claims to be able to remember not only being so sick but not being allowed to see Mummy, but only the nursing sisters in their black outfits. Scary.
Incidentally, speaking of communicable diseases, I see that polio has now moved from the Middle East into Europe, again. Wonder if anybody still has any iron lungs or enough child sized metal leg braces.
By the way, if he does the job his constituents elected him to do, Galloway can drive around in a Rolls Royce wearing Armani suits and smoke $500 cigars for all I care.
WELLSTONE WAS MURDERED. That much should be painfully obvious to anyone who can add 2+2.
BlakNo1 10:57 am
Is there a difference between 'murdered' and "assassinated"?
just wonderin'...
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GWPDA,
You mentioned upthread that Gov. Napolitano was a good governor. After reading that article, I can see what you mean.
I'm jealous. Arnold has been a real problem here in California.
GWPDA --
wow, memory flash. as a child, i had asthmatic bronchitis and was once hospitalized with a roommate who was in an iron-lung and being terrified that i was going to end up in one.
I think the educated people of MN know better than most, in their hearts, how corrupt the GOP truly is. Excepting, perhaps, those of MO...
Morning, fellow lunar flying mammals.
I've had the feeling America was sinking, if not quite actually sunk, since 2000.
Re whooping cough: my son recently had a bout of what used to be called "the croup" (a dry, barking cough seemingly unrelated to any kind of respiratory infection) and his pediatrician mentioned the upsurge of whooping cough (we're in LA). The polio thing is scary though. I remember lining up at the high school to get our polio vaccines in sugar cubes. People of my parents generation lost a lot of friends as kids to polio....
Incidentally, speaking of communicable diseases, I see that polio has now moved from the Middle East into Europe, again. Wonder if anybody still has any iron lungs or enough child sized metal leg braces.
GWPDA, Irate Scholar -10:59 am
As a survivor of childhood polio, it alswys scares the shit outta me when i hear of its re-emergence, even thogh i ingested enough vaccine (post hoc) to float a clinic, cuz of the disease's nasty habit of re-afflicting those who fought it to a draw the first time...
just sayin...
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Eh, you can substitute "murdered" for "assasinated" if the mood suits you. The reasons for it, and the end result, are the same after all...
"Rick Santorum.. The senator from a place called faith! He looks oh so pious! I haven't read the article yet, but this is just a heads up."
Thanks - now i know I need to avoid the fucking thing so i won't have to look at that asshole.
Talking about America, did anyone else hear the first lady lecture peoples of the ME by proclaiming that riots don't happen in America when people's feelings are hurt? Talk about being an ugly American. She should just shut the fuck up with her arrogance. We have enough trouble over there....
The retired aircraft carrier USS America is on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, sunk by the Navy in a series of explosive tests that upset some veterans.
That is until they were reminded that after all John Kerry shot himself to further his political ambitions.
Galloway was right about Hitchens too. He is a drink-soaked Former Trotskyist Popinjay!
I bet Hitchens went and got himself a scotch & water immediately after getting smacked by Galloway.
I hate Christopher Hitchens.
BlakNo1
How are you posting without duplicate posts? When I tried to refresh Eschaton I got a "not found" message from Blogger. I will send this and then to se any response I will have to refresh this thread which will create a duplicate post.
cuz of the disease's nasty habit of re-afflicting those who fought it to a draw the first time...
That may be one of the very worst parts of the disease Woody - post polio syndrome with just a handful of doctors who even know about such a thing. What it reminds me of is the "new" surge of TB - doctors who haven't any idea what they're looking at, or contracting Valley Fever and being in say, Virginia trying to be diagnosed or even my favorite - bubonic plague. You and I know, Woody that bubonic plague is cured by a course of tetracycline - but if you've been a visitor to New Mexico, get bit by a flea and then go home to Minnesota, those buboes are gonna get you first....
Talking about America, did anyone else hear the first lady lecture peoples of the ME by proclaiming that riots don't happen in America when people's feelings are hurt? Talk about being an ugly American. She should just shut the fuck up with her arrogance. We have enough trouble over there....
wolf-man |-11:09 am
what a fucking bint!!!
JEEZIS FUCKING CHRIST!!!
Nobody riots 'just because their feelings are hurt.' People riot when the tipping point has been reached, when the affronts and embarrassments and atrocities to which they have been subjected become too much to bear any longer...
this is a wisdom I hope the fucking pseudo-aristocratic cunt learns on a cart on her way to the fucking guillotine...
I always right-click to go back after I post and then reload. I've never had a problem with dupes.
Hitchens is a mixed bag. His takes on the Iraq war are as fucked up as they could be, yet he correctly notes that Sharon is a racist and the Ohio was stolen by Bush.
From Snopes.com:
President Dwight Eisenhower, Republican, uttered these words on November 8, 1954:
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."
In addition to being a war hero, a decent fellow, a moderate Republican before they began to go extinct, President Eisenhower apparently was also quite the prophet. Little George W. Bush was about 9 years old at the time...
The dogs are pestering me for their morning constitutional. the ditch beckons...and then a day of labor, in various venues...
btw: got another movie gig next week, too...just sayin.
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Hitchens is a mixed bag. His takes on the Iraq war are as fucked up as they could be, yet he correctly notes that Sharon is a racist and the Ohio was stolen by Bush.
wolf-man
No doubt his duality is directly proportional to the number of drinks he's had before he pecks away at his keyboard.
underwhelm
Thanks. But what has happened to the Eschaton home page?
Hey all, just a drive by-
Saw LA Times article reprinted locally about the US taking a more central role in the Iraqi govt and noticed this on anonymous government sources.
"""The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because of rules that forbid many of them from speaking publicly unless they restrict themselves to the language of prepared policy statements."""
Talk about adhering to the Party Line! The Chinese Foreign Ministry would be envious.
OT
I just logged on a little while ago and read the thread below this. Has anyone heard from Jeffraham this AMm?
Nobody riots 'just because their feelings are hurt.' People riot when the tipping point has been reached, when the affronts and embarrassments and atrocities to which they have been subjected become too much to bear any longer...
Sure we know that, but in Bush's world every culture, except the Right Wing's so-called "culture of life," is inferior.
In reality, when you keep poking people with a stick they are going to rebel like a nest of hornets. Don't expect these idiots to understand this, just expect more idiotic comments from them about their supposed superiority.
That, I couldn't say.
Great speech by Moyers on CSPAN...I had to laugh when they flashed the next segments coming up....he is to be followed by Rummy and Senators opinions on the base closings...
From the unabashed truth about the media to listening to one of the most evasive spin meisters on this planet to a group of pinstripers spewing talking points.
______league: no. & for those of you who missed it, Jeffraham was posting from the end of his rope last night and some of us are pretty worried about it.
Tom - Daai Tou Laam
Nice to see that things are going so fabulously in Iraq that we have to be more visible in pulling the strings on the puppet government.
*shakes head in disgust*
this is a wisdom I hope the fucking pseudo-aristocratic cunt learns on a cart on her way to the fucking guillotine...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar (aka...)
Not even then will she.
On GPDA and WWG's comments on the potential resurgance of various diseases in the US:
The Center for Disease Control budget has been cut
Unfortunately, the NY Times article referenced in this blog is archived and therefor not available for free.
Scout, I'll be around a while yet, but I got Bush/Cheney bumperstickers on suv's to um . . . modify. Yeah, that's it, modify.
"...that upset some veterans."
Maybe the clever Republicans can come up with a band aid with an image of a sinking aircraft carrier as a way to further mock the vets.
Regarding the USS America... since one o' my passions is history, I've read some about this on other boards.
First of all, I understand why people wanted it preserved as amuseum - it and about 4 other large carriers as well as several WW II era carriers. Preserving a ship costs big big bucks, and there aren't always enough to go around. For example, USS Hornet in California is having financial problems. There's only so much of a market for seeing an old aircraft carrier.
Second, no it will not be raised. In fact, it was (so I read) sunk in deep water to limit the possibility of an unfriendly nation looking at the damage and making use of the information.
Third, while it is certainly true that big boom makes ships sink, how many big booms and where seem to me to be useful knowledge for the engineers designing a new carrier.
Fourth, USS America will have company soon in the USS Oriskany, which will be sunk soon off the coast of Florida. The difference here will be that the Oriskany will be at a shallow enough depth that it can be reached by divers. That's all part of the plan, since they tell me wreck diving is very popular. Some environmental problems do exist, or the Oriskany would be gone already rather than sitting at a pier. Apparently the claimed costs of scuttling are less than those associated with scrapping.
The headline is irresistable, but the decision to use the America in a weapons test might have been the smart one.
Talking about America, did anyone else hear the first lady lecture peoples of the ME by proclaiming that riots don't happen in America when people's feelings are hurt?
In this case Laura is absolutely correct. In civilized countries, we prefer to jump in our car and go run down a former paramour. This way, suffering is confined to the evil-doer, and property damage is usually substantially less.
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Um, completely off-topic, but:
Could John Tierney make any less sense if he tried?
Diplomacy, Laura Bush style:
"In the United States if there's a terrible report, people don't riot and kill other people," she said. "And you can't excuse what they did because of the mistake -- you know, you can't blame it all on Newsweek."
Translation: "America is superior to you heathens here in the ME."
Typical ugly American comment and thus, horrible deplomacy by a first lady....
"Sure we know that, but in Bush's world every culture, except the Right Wing's so-called "culture of life," is inferior." - wolf-man
Did anyone see the Chimp smirking and talking about the Saddam in his underwear and riots in Muslim world yesterday?
Way past being an embarrassment - he sounded drunk and retarded (oh he can walk and chew gum at the same time - just not very well), and he had a very strange look in his eye. Stupid murderous fucktard.
Jeez, I need a coffee.
Actually nattering nabob, she's totally wrong. There have been plenty of riots in America over "hurt feelings."
des
I sent you email
scout
"oh he can walk and chew gum at the same time - just not very well"
Evidence please.
Divide and conquer. It's a conscious strategy, employed in this case toward dismantling Social Security. Get those under 40 all foamed up about the baby boomers and soon it's "why should we work to support THEM?"
deja pseu
Fuckin' A!
That fake Thersites post sounded a lot like Christopher Hitchens having a hissy fit.
ding-ding-ding. That was Hic-tch from Slate a few weeks back.
Note to namestealers: cut-and-paste makes you even bigger fuckwits.
Could John Tierney make any less sense if he tried?
As has been mentioned, to put one Bobo on the NYT op-ed page may be regarded as a misfortune. To have two looks like carelessness.
Way past being an embarrassment - he sounded drunk and retarded (oh he can walk and chew gum at the same time - just not very well), and he had a very strange look in his eye
I think he's medicated on some powerful drugs - maybe antidepressants. We, as Americans, desrve to know if the President is taking power drugs, too.
Um, completely off-topic, but:
Could John Tierney make any less sense if he tried?
Robert M. Jeffers
Comparing Anakin Skywalker to Adam Smith?
Yeah. Makes perfect sense.
To a complete hack.
I usually just close the window after I post and then re-open it. I didn't know that right-clicking could accomplish the same thing. I'll try it now.
ding-ding-ding. That was Hic-tch from Slate a few weeks back.
Hic-tch. Delicious.
Oh, click back and then hit refresh, got it.
Why does Rupert Murdoch want America to fail in the Mideast
his minions are the ones who paid for an ran the Saddam photos
Good morning. I see the insanity continues, with a great blush of hope from Bill Moyers!
Brioche in oven, fresh strawberries, and coffee.
ding-ding-ding. That was Hic-tch from Slate a few weeks back.
Note to namestealers: cut-and-paste makes you even bigger fuckwits.
pseudonymous in nc
Wow.
That was just a guess.
But once you've read a few things you get a feel for a writer's rhythm. Or lack of.
As has been mentioned, to put one Bobo on the NYT op-ed page may be regarded as a misfortune. To have two looks like carelessness.
Tierney is however most wonderfully ignorant. I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone.
mmm...brioche...
The Navy sank the "America" to avoid the cost of having it dismantled.
this is interesting, because just two days ago i was chatting with a colleague who works for the VA, who can't believe the gutting it is going through, and i remember saying: "what we are witnessing is the stripping of this entire country as if it were a stolen car."
BlakNo1--I read with interest your comment that Wellstone was murdered. I've always believed that to be the case. Then again, I can add.
What's Dudley doing at this moment?
el,
The "Codpiece Incident" occurred on the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln. Otherwise, one could surmise that the Bushrovians were trying to destroy evidence of something.
What--me paranoid?
"why should we work to support THEM?"
we boomers may have been upwardly mobile, and hungry for the good life, and drugged, and medicated, and stressed, and utterly fucked up, but i do not remember any of us asking that about our social security contributions...
don't start on what the boomers didn't sacrifice...we sacrificed plenty: look at the food lines at the homeless shelters, and under the bridges in any urban area, and in the va hospitals, and in the obits (and the police blotters), and you'll get a record of sacrifice that GEN X and GEN Y have avoided with such scrupulousness as to utterly boggle the mind...the 54000 names on the wall (AND the other 20000 that deserve to be there) are testament enough, thank you very fucking much...
the answer was, and is, because they were/are our relatives, our families, our communities, our parents and grandparents--and they sacrificed for us...and we owe 'em...
but 'owing' a social debt is something strange to the fascist fux...and I want their fucking heads on pikes, dripping life's blood on the pavement if they're too stupid or too greedy or too just plain fucked up to see it...
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Thersites--I'm expecting some serious experimentation today. You're lagging, boyo.
Are Laura Bush's recent public utterances, putatively comical and otherwise, really a simple and straightforward expression of honest differences of opinion with her hubby?
Is she, in fact, her Own Person, but in a delightfully loyal and respectable Betty Ford way, unlike her shameless self-aggrandizing predecessors, e.g. Eleanor Roosevelt or Hillary?
See this insightful article on the Lump's public activity. Or perhaps we should call her the Bubble Girl...
Dudley is running around the apartment yelling. He does that sometimes when he wants attention.
Ah well, it was only two years of my life. )
DWD | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 8:33 am
you both write faster, and have more equanimity than i.
Also OT but somebody might want to look into these mass graves.
They might find some guys we extraordinarily rendered.
Re: naming ships after the Nazi Bush crime family...
The final Nimitz-class aircraft carrier will be named USS George H. W. Bush.
Any bets on what the first CVN21-class carrier will be called in about five years?
"really hate that he made Norm Coleman look like petulant child who lost his spot on the team to the poor kid who was better than him, eh?
DWD | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 10:22 am | # "
Coleman is a freakish looking little bastard, isn't he? He's what, like, 60% head?
Morning, batties!
ding-ding-ding. That was Hic-tch from Slate a few weeks back.
p in nc
Don't know if it's the same piece but The Weekly Standard (ugh) has a Weaving Drunkard attack on Galloway as well.
Just jaw-dropping. Slimy innuendo seasoned with loaded adjectives and topped off with a slathering of irrelevant political pop references. You should see how far he stretches to work a Ceaucescu name-check into the piece of dreck.
Textbook example of the chronic alcoholic's penchant for mean-spirited obsessiveness. Hitchens sure loves that glorious war in Iraq. If you don't, he'll insult your wife, pee in the corner of your den and break your patio window.
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More shame for the US:
Virginity or Death?
Commentary from Katha Pollitt.
Dudley is running around the apartment yelling. He does that sometimes when he wants attention.
BlakNo1 - Arthur does that outside and when I don't respond, comes racing in and indicates that the Cossacks this time, absolutely, no question at all, are at the gate and I must stop them NOW. When I get outside he usually has Yellow Ball with him, just sort of casually knocking it around, one flick back, one flick forward......
"CNN has a piece this morning about she differs from the White House on the blame being placed on Newsweek...
Once again though, the MSM has taken the White House press release, changed the header and called it news.
matthew | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 10:04 am | # "
Written by Nedra Pickler. See my diary at Kos on this one.
Little Brother--I don't think calling Eleanor Roosevelt and Hillary Clinton self-aggrandizing is a fair argument. What do you have against strong women who speak their minds?
I can't wait till the times charges for that crap.
hadenough | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 8:48 am
did my patriotic duty by cancelling my sub quite some time ago.
The Federalist is the nickname for the collected papers. And both Hamilton and Madison wrote in support of the Constitution in the New York press under the name Publius when the nation was still under the Articles of Confederation.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 9:04 am
hey, am i nuts or was somebody posting here under the name Publius a while back??
[okay, we really don't need to answer the first question ]
Aw, what a good doggie!
Breakfast is served upstairs.
hey, am i nuts or was somebody posting here under the name Publius a while back??/i>
that was one of the monikers assumed by one of the various personalities of the trool (Rob/Ted?) which parades through here occasionally to demonstrate it's utter disregard for reality, fact or the truth...
iirc
WGG--I'm at the tail end of the boomers, arguably a transitional sub-generation, born in'61. Too young to remember Kennedy, too young to get the '60s except as received wisdom from the '70s
But I know this much--lots of people like me never wanted to make the full transition into corporate capital consumerism, and the loathesome jobs that went with it. I don't have the stats, but we are many.
We are certainly not the bobos that capital B Bobo talks about--we are the real opt-outers, doing just as much as possible to get by in current capital-plagued society; it appalls me to pay my Comcast bill, but that's my current ticket to the internets. I can't justify the cable bill so easily, but I generally starve the beast--no car, no debt, no credit card.
I always thought it was crocodile tears...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar (aka...) | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 9:52 am
or maybe buyer's remorse.
I'm expecting some serious experimentation today. You're lagging, boyo.
Well, I have been working hard on a very significant politico/cognitive test, the results of which should have great import for our Republic.
THIS will chill you.
Read it and remember Prescott Bush...
all i'm sayin...
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WoodyGuthriesGuitar (aka...) | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 10:10 am
yes, it did. buhhrrrrhrrr.
is it possible we americans know less about our own history than any other nation?
Anyways it's time to try and assemble my readings from the offline time.
Went through several books in the oil field, and Scot Ritter's "Endgame" piece. Ritter knows who the fuck curveball is. Lean on the scrub to make the disclosure in ther media.
For my money- curveball is someone who had direct access to the entire Hussain Kamel file.
Kamel was Saddam's cousin/nephew by marriage from the complex intertribal alliances of his ethnically diverse homeland. Someone saying they were from a Congress staff said a hint for Curveball was a "Camel". Well a Kamel is close enough... the curveball claims mirror many of Kamel's claims word for word.
Ritter uses Kamel as a source so much, and is clearly an implicit enabler of Bushco in the fact that he repeatedly pushed the envelope of inspections in an attempt to create a pretext for intervention by trying to prove negatives he knew were over assessed. Clinton was smart enough to avoid calling the bluff of someone who couldn't control two third of his own country, there was backdoor pressure to make him do this once it was clear his second term was secure.
See at the time we sold Saddam arms the fuzzy math of 'real weapons to listed weapons' was a convenient way of overcharging our arm sales at taxpayer expense to Reagan/Bush customers . See also Iran/Contra.
Ritter knows who curveball is . Remind him that his failure to expose the depth of lie he worked with. This ended up endangering other Marines.
He's a great revisioninst in saying he wanted inspections instead of actions. His next target is Iran. Notice how he changes rhetoric consistently and expects nobody to call up his shortcomings in comparison to the AWOL firesale on bad policy.
Proliferation guarantees nothing with retaliatory deterrence a given.
Trying to be the only kid on the block with the weaponry will not last long.
Korea is a pentagon papers scenario all over. They are overstating their capacity on purpose. To justify outrageous expense.
Perhaps China needs a nuclear neighbor to make it adopt a more diplomatic posture.
Think triangulation. Rummy liked the approach so much he sold 2 reactors to N.Korea.
Facilitate a problem to justify expenditures...in the meantime employ Kissinger tactics to leverage a vested inroad to each side of the equation.
How much is Taiwan going to be extorted for? Both Koreas?
How much will China pay under the table to maintain edge over these?
How much will Japan pay to swee these buffer regions stay strong against China?
Wolfowitz is having a field day with these interests, lending money to ones that will pay to play.
The headline is irresistable, but the decision to use the America in a weapons test might have been the smart one.
Wtlodge40 | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 11:30 am
reasonable enough, but as the article states that it was one of many decommissioned vesssels, it's just kind of funny that they had to go and pick the one called "america" out of the bunch. maybe because of its size? anyway, there's no way we would leave something priceless as this alone with a "no comment".
ny mary---well if you are gonna be in kansas for god's sake of course you'll run into yahoodom....stay east of the hudson at all costs unless you are going up to woodstock for a decent meal at the bear or something....
Um, completely off-topic, but:
Could John Tierney make any less sense if he tried?
Robert M. Jeffers | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 11:31 am
the article has to be either a masterwork of satire, along the lines of the famous "modest proposal" of jonathan swift, or else it's the fucking dumbest thing ever written by anybody ever.
i particularly like the notion that a good conservative leader would reach out and psychically strangle to death people who disagree with him, or who would destroy entire planets to set an example. yeah, sounds about right.
Yikes!
Whooping Cough is a problem in Arizona.
Sheesh...I hadn't heard about whooping cough in years! What's happening?
Diane |
undocumenteds coming over.
Let vigilantes roam the border with guns.
Instead of securing them and actually even sending out immunization teams to at least shot undocumented depotrees.
Think about it. They are a health hazard anywhere they go. It would help employ a lot of intern/trainees as well, think of a border peace corps designation.
Who would have ever thought the peace corps would have work to do here?
Bush's America...
ding-ding-ding. That was Hic-tch from Slate a few weeks back.
Note to namestealers: cut-and-paste makes you even bigger fuckwits.
pseudonymous in nc | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 11:36 am
i like this game show! will there be a bathing of a girl in a bikini in buckets of maggots later?
is it possible we americans know less about our own history than any other nation?
r@d@r - 12:26 pm
it is not only possible, it is intentional...
the curriculum for history is atrocious (it's NOT from "The People's History" or any other like source), many if not most of the teachers are the most jingoistic fuckwitz imagineable (fucking football coaches, often), and history is the first thing to get cancelled when ANYTHING else intrudes...
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Ambiguous Editorial Note: I generally eschew use of mock tags (e.g., {/sarcasm}) or emoticons even though I'm well aware of the admonition that written comments don't always effectively convey sarcasm, irony, or humor.
This may be a defect of ego or the sin of pride, comparable to refusing to don a fluorescent orange vest in the woods because it spoils the look of my Robin Hood Lincoln greene outfit.
Ironically, I was a-lurkin' and a-smokin' recently, and tossed in a at the end of a humorous remark because I experienced a shiver of stoned paranoia and thought it might be taken amiss. The person to whom my remark was directed didn't respond, but someone else ripped my for obnoxiously "laughing at my own joke."
It's easy to say, "Well, the lesson is that one should strive to always be clear and unambiguous before clicking OK." But it's a risky business. I apologize for the occasional regrettable misunderstandings that will inevitably ensue. 
Mr. Murder
Your rants rock.
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Eleanor Roosevelt made a lot of inroads for SOuthern reform.
She did so by degrees- Women's rights first as precedence for Black rights advance.
By degrees, she understood qwuite well the implications of pushing too much change at a time and her handling of politics in light of her husband's distance from her is a tribute to her ability.
Hillary had nothin' on Mrs. R.
Someone bludgeon the troll with some more truth... it's why he comes here.
"it's just kind of funny that they had to go and pick the one called "america" out of the bunch. maybe because of its size?"
I think so. The America was one of the few oil fueled fleet carriers and the one in the worst shape. Several older large carriers have groups trying to preserve them, such as the Forrestal, Saratoga and Ranger. The navy apparently thought the America was in such poor condition that preservation wasn't an option.
Got to admit the irony is too much to resist
Just remember, while America is sunk the United States is still with us! http://www.ss-united-states.com/
The Federalist is the nickname for the collected papers. And both Hamilton and Madison wrote in support of the Constitution in the New York press under the name Publius when the nation was still under the Articles of Confederation.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 05.21.05 - 9:04 am
NTodd they wrote anonymously "Publius" and "z" to avoid oppression by Colonial rule.
So when is the next anonymous leak coming out this week?
The main argument in federalism is that any power not given was implied for states.
Of course ther Senate being the place for minority representation as opposed the House for majority rule recognized that voice of States equally.
Small States had as much say as any large State there.
Finally as an extension of individual rights which are the Foundation of our laws freedom of Speech shall in no ways be abridged.
The Constitution was vague and broad purposefully, what Governtment could not do was easier to say than the myriad things it could.
It could not forbid speaking rights, it could not establish any one religion.
These are implicit and expressly stated. Other powers not stated are assumed granted.
Nobody has to cast up or down votes on an electoral ballot. They can leave any, or all, of the votes blank as a sign of protest in the narrow range of choice many such ballots offer.
This same right should extend to the Senate as a the voice of everyman.
Bush's pitiful attempt at mob rule must be challenged.
Christ, a ship with a long and glorious history serving the United States, and rather than turn it into a historical landmark it's easier just to scrap it. Pathetic.
Finally, there is nowhere mentioned in the Constitution any Amendment which bans free speech to Elected Senators in any capacity.
Remember that it was a given no powers stated are implied.Letters from the Founders to papers and one another reiterate this point. The check of Government dealt with individuals, expression, belief.
All three of these things are being infringed by neocons.
What the government cannot do was quoted from the outset.
Too bad- Disney should make an aircraft carrier ride out of it...
Perhaps it will scrapped in havana harbour on its last stop by Gtimo?
Naaaahhhhhh...
Ewww Daddy, can I bet the next kid to go on the 'Bomb Cuba' ride?
"NTodd they wrote anonymously "Publius" and "z" to avoid oppression by Colonial rule."
Colonial rule ended a few years earlier, I think, so I am not sure what you mean here.
Political writing under these kinds of pen names was common back in those days. Most biographies of political figures of that time make referrecne to writings published under an assumed name. In fact, I can't think of anyone who didn't write under a pseudonym, except Washington.
Oh, while I'm not in opine mode.
George and Babs= Jar Jar and Bar Bar
True that, there appears to be an edge to the climate of talk at the time though.
So using psuedonyms fits.
The Articles had already been passed.
So it was America at the time.
But then it was a confederation of 13 member nations.
Like the first United Nations.
Woodrow's stroke prevented the implementation of structure which would have used what we learned the 200 years previous in this.
Anyways the main problem was twofold.
As stated powers denied or listed hinged on two issues.
1)Slavery
2)Debt consolidation/payment for loans individual nation states took out to foreign countries.
The second matter was big in the smaller middle to northern colony states that used the loans to underwrite infrastructure and establish places to pool workforce resources in the form of knowledge and faciltate distribution via stated infrastructure devlopment.
Still the use of pseudos also carried over from the previous war as well.
The use of false flag names to attempt and define the opposition's motive also was considered and at times used with much skill to some extent.
Not simply a metaphor.
There is substantial evidence this is precisely what Bu$hCo wants to do to the United States of America.
In fact, viewed through this prism, their spectra becomes quite readable.
I know this is a dead thread but I just read they are scheduled to the same thing in about 2 years to the USS Constellation. Big boom boat sink weeeee.
Hey, in about 40 years we can toast the sinking of USS George H W Bush (CVN 77, currently under construction)
That is until they were reminded...
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