What the HELL does this have to do with evil purple spiders taking over Chicago?
Man, Atrios is out of touch...
Thersites |
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05.28.05 - 2:54 am | #
Thersites--it's okay. Wait till he finds out about the saber toothed cats tomorrow, though.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 2:57 am | #
Wayyy out of touch!
When willl he ever get with the program?
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05.28.05 - 2:58 am | #
Smalfish--don't you know that in these types of flicks, the black dude ALWAYS buys it?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 3:00 am | #
Time to play...Freaks.
sayeth the libs to the wingnuts.
smalfish |
05.28.05 - 3:00 am | #
If Atrios is ignorant of Dinocroc... whatever will we do?
Thersites |
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05.28.05 - 3:01 am | #
All right, goo! Any flick with goo rocks!
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 3:02 am | #
Monsters are where you find them.
QuentinCompson Killing Rats |
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05.28.05 - 3:02 am | #
Thersites--watch it without him?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 3:02 am | #
So..... Hitchens is a drunken idiot?
Yeah, OK, I said I was going to bed but I can't sleep....
I blame the drunken Hitchens, not the Drunken Scrutinizer.
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05.28.05 - 3:03 am | #
"Monsters are where you find them."
A large number have been found with the DC beltway.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 3:03 am | #
Yowza--Hitchens is definitely a drunkard, which, according to Claude Rains, makes him a citizen of the world.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 3:04 am | #
Beware the nafarious and diabolical Queen Ocelot!
Eli |
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05.28.05 - 3:05 am | #
Eli--aww, just sic her on Thersites.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 3:06 am | #
"I'm not an electician!!!"
"I know that!!"
Central Scrutinizer |
05.28.05 - 3:06 am | #
Aww, man, is Blumenthal really gonna do this? Apparently so. Dumb. Hitchens is a jerk and has gone the way of C.C. O'Brien (doing things for the ocunter-revolution that he would have never done when he was on the side of the revolution), but Blumenthal persuing a course that *Henry Fucking Kissinger* attempted, and failed spectacularly, is pretty stupid.
This is also the smear that regularly gets circulated on Chomsky -- by people like.. David Horowitz!
Neither Hitchens nor Chomsky are holocaust deniers nor are they Nazi-sympathisers.
There are plenty of thing to attack Hitchens for; this is just a stupid smear.
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05.28.05 - 3:06 am | #
Dude, the Queen Spider totally has boobs. And possibly a football helmet.
Eli |
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05.28.05 - 3:07 am | #
Cool! Exploding creature!
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 3:07 am | #
Of course,they land in a deserted island.
smalfish |
05.28.05 - 3:08 am | #
Ye all sound like a bunch of drink soaked ex-Trotskyite popinjays.
FundotheClown |
05.28.05 - 3:08 am | #
I honestly did think they were gonna stay on Spider Earth, which might not be so bad without the Queen Spider.
Eli |
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05.28.05 - 3:08 am | #
Horowitz next, yummy!
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05.28.05 - 3:08 am | #
Fangs looks intriguing, but sleep beckons. Dream well, fuzzybats.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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05.28.05 - 3:09 am | #
Looks like I was right about the new portal...
Eli |
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05.28.05 - 3:09 am | #
Ye all sound like a bunch of drink soaked ex-Trotskyite popinjays.
Wait'll you hear our mating call.
Central Scrutinizer |
05.28.05 - 3:09 am | #
Wow. Someone really wrote, "it's too quiet."
Good Lord, Eli. The evil Gollum spider soes have breasts. But she's also wearing a nice lacy underwire contraption from Victoria's Secret.
And what's up with tropical Lake Michigan? Or, is Richard Grieco going to end up pooped on by an evil pigeon?
Imagine going to another dimension ruled by an evil Chris Hitchens.
Thersites |
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05.28.05 - 3:09 am | #
Nightcha, Sallyh!
Crimson Force looks promising! Did I C. Thomas Howell?
Eli |
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05.28.05 - 3:10 am | #
Good Lord, Eli. The evil Gollum spider soes have breasts. But she's also wearing a nice lacy underwire contraption from Victoria's Secret.
Toldja. I have very sophisticated breast radar.
Watching fangs now. Ditzy valley girl research assistants, and *more* hair-eating!
Eli |
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05.28.05 - 3:14 am | #
I can't watch the whole thing, but it *is* an entire movie about moonbats...
Eli |
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05.28.05 - 3:15 am | #
Must sleep. Cannot watch crap all weekend, as family duties intervene. But Dinocroc will be recorded.
Wassup with V, anyhoo? Surely dreck of this magnitude requires the saving grace of V insight?
Thersites |
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05.28.05 - 3:16 am | #
Can you believe that dickhead just promised A's to those hot young women and there WAS NO SEX INVOLVED?
Must be SciFi.
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05.28.05 - 3:18 am | #
Wassup with V, anyhoo? Surely dreck of this magnitude requires the saving grace of V insight?
V *just* got back from hiking/camping-type festivities. She may be enticed to weigh in on Dinocroc.
Eli |
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05.28.05 - 3:18 am | #
Best to V, then. We will be sporadic for a few days ourselves.
Remember that the crocodile is the perfect predator. And it inhabits toliet mains in Vermont.
There was a dog and a cow and a rancher with a dream.I was in the summerhouse with T.J.and grandma. It was 2005.We were eating blood oranges.Liberals had no idea of there own hypocracy.It began to rain.
frank michaux |
05.28.05 - 4:37 am | #
GB Shaw notwithstanding, it's hard to appear literate when limited by tired cliches poorly spelled.
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05.28.05 - 5:13 am | #
Is this whole thread in code?
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05.28.05 - 5:17 am | #
Since when was Blumenthal the default Max? When I see "Max" quoted on Eschaton, I assume it's quality bloggage from Max "Man-Mountain" Sawicky. I demand a refund!
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05.28.05 - 6:33 am | #
Max missed the mark, and I really resent the editing he had to do to make Hitchen's into a holocaust denier, However:
I will give $100 dollars to anyone who can prove that Hitchen's has worked for MI6, MI5 or SIS. I think he's on the payroll. The Popinjay's strange career can only be explained in terms of military intelligence. His polemic has consistently been in line with official British policy at every turn. He's been hanging around with all the right names at and since Oxford--his father was an RN captain and the rest of the family are Naval.
Rt Hon. McAdder Esq KG |
05.28.05 - 7:03 am | #
Nope. Hitchens is alcoholic bisexual Trotskyite who never met a Holocaust- Denier he wasn't happy to defend.
Live with it.
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05.28.05 - 9:12 am | #
BITCHENS just gets on my nerve.
He reminds me of Michael Weiner in that he always looks like an unmade bed.
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05.28.05 - 9:36 am | #
If they live long enoung, not a safe bet with Hitch, his hatred of Clinton may just be the world's longest grudge against being jilted.
Here's a hint Hitch. Read "The Jilting of Granny Wetherall" by Katherine Anne Porter. Keep this up and it won't end pleasantly.
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05.28.05 - 9:40 am | #
So Hitchens is a drunken slimebag? this is news?
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05.28.05 - 9:49 am | #
"his hatred of Clinton may just be the world's longest grudge against being jilted."
SING OUT LOUISE!!!!!
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05.28.05 - 10:12 am | #
Nice one, Max. Looking forward to the sequel.
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05.28.05 - 10:15 am | #
anyone care to explain what blumenthal's point is here?
1.) 'it would have been enough' to defend a Holocaust denier's right to free speech??
2.)'according to the counter-revisionists, an important piece of evidence in the Holocaust Museum is not reliable' does not imply agreement with this conclusion.
3.)Hitchens was a 'witness' to a hostile conversation between faurisson's assistant and some other guy. Big freakin whoop. "Hitchens, will you call for the public release of the tape? Yes or no?" would be embarrassing even if we cared about the tapes contents, which we don't.
the rest of it: Hitchens wasn't enthusiastic enough in trashing various Holocaust revisionists, so he's some kind of anti-semite, or something.
This Max Blumenthal cat sounds like one of those LGF paranoid cases who see anti-semites under every rock. Plus, the article isn't funny at all.
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05.28.05 - 10:16 am | #
It seems to me that you want to imply that Hitchen's has sympathy for Faurisson's and Irving's views and that because he's eaten lunch with them he ascribes to their belief that the Holocaust never happened. If you believe these things then say them. Don't pussy foot around with all this guilt by association. Have the courage of your convictions and state your case clearly. Unless you're afraid to. And if you are then you really are "cowardly."
Yes. Blumenthal is afraid to claim outright that Hitchens is some kind of Holocaust denier, so he throws a bunch of shit against the wall, but none of it sticks.
Does anyone here seriously think Hitchens is a holcaust denier? How moronic can you get>?
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05.28.05 - 10:23 am | #
David Irving, a British historian with depraved ideas about the whole narrative....
I have caught David Irving out, just by my own researches, in one grossly anti-Jewish statement and one wildly paranoid hypothesis and several flagrant contradictions. But I learned a lot in the process of doing so. It's unimportant to me that Irving is my political polar opposite. If I didn't read my polar opposites, I'd be even stupider than I am....
Yeah sounds like Hitchens agrees completely with Irving, even though he's "his polar opposite" with "depraved ideas." yeah that Hitch, he's like Hitler. Worse still, he's a 'popinjay,' everyone's new favorite word. And a drunk, since drunks are immoral and weak.
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05.28.05 - 10:38 am | #
"Does anyone here seriously think Hitchens is a holcaust denier? "
Words and actions have meaning and consequence.
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05.28.05 - 10:40 am | #
Words and actions have meaning and consequence.
I ask a serious question, and I get this platitude. I'll take that as a 'no.'
wizo |
05.28.05 - 10:42 am | #
You can "take" whatever you like -- being the Hitchens apologist that you are.
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05.28.05 - 10:56 am | #
You can "take" whatever you like -- being the Hitchens apologist that you are...
I'll take that as "I give up", or "I'm getting angry, but i can't explain why."
Have I slipped through a time portal, or what? I go looking for a little harmless entertainment about Famous Blowhard Christopher Hitchens, find out that he's hung with Holocaust whackos, and then stumble into the most incoherent discussion thread I have ever seen anywhere on the Internet.
Yikes!
-- Rick Robinson
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05.28.05 - 11:04 am | #
"Here one must negotiate the toxic figure of David Irving."
"Irving has tainted himself with the one thing of which no serious person can even be suspected: a sympathy for the Nazi cause. "
Oh yeah, Hitchens' sympathy for Irving is obvious. That hitchens, always carrying on about Jewish bankers and how the Holocaust never happened. Plus he's a drunk, and a 'popinjay.' And a dandy, and a homosexual. LOL.
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05.28.05 - 11:06 am | #
al-Fubar thinks Holocaust denial or accusations thereof is "harmless entertainment."
There's nothing incoherent about the thread -- no one dares to defend Blumenthal's article because it's stupid and pointless. David Ehrenstein thinks that words have consequences though, so there's that. also, I ate some cereal for breakfast this morning.
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05.28.05 - 11:11 am | #
David Ehrenstein, how badly must you hate yourself that you use "bisexual" as a slur? In fact, nobody seems to really care so much about the sexual preferences of political figures so much as the Atrios homophobe-baiting-homos. It isn't as if Hitchens is a republican, or has said or written anything even remotely homophobic, so why is it relevant?
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05.28.05 - 11:15 am | #
In fact, nobody seems to really care so much about the sexual preferences of political figures so much as the Atrios homophobe-baiting-homos.
Holocaust deniers are the lowest of the low.
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05.28.05 - 2:39 pm | #
To lend credence to their claim, they will then name Jews who are partial or full revisionists (J.G. Burg, Jean-Gabriel Cohn-Bendit, Roger-Guy Dommergue, Arno Mayer, David Cole, Christopher Hitchens, Stephen Hayward.)
I don't understand this. Is Faurisson really claiming Christopher Hitchens to be Jewish?
Christopher really isn't Jewish, is he?
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05.28.05 - 3:43 pm | #
"David Ehrenstein, how badly must you hate yourself that you use "bisexual" as a slur? "
Rising to my bait I see!
"In fact, nobody seems to really care so much about the sexual preferences of political figures so much as the Atrios homophobe-baiting-homos."
Nothing like a good old-fashioned "nobdy cares," isn't there?
It's right up there with "The check is in the mail" and "I promise not to come in your mouth."
"It isn't as if Hitchens is a republican,"
He's NOT a Republican? ROTFALMAO!!!
"or has said or written anything even remotely homophobic, so why is it relevant?"
I don't understand this. Is Faurisson really claiming Christopher Hitchens to be Jewish?
Christopher really isn't Jewish, is he?
Yes, Christopher Hitchens is Jewish. There is an essay about his finding out he is Jewish in his old book "Prepared For the Worst".
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05.29.05 - 12:52 am | #
I'm turst you've all heard of the Jewish Wagnerians.
Let me second wizo's above. Max B's article was risible for all the reaons wizo noted above. And David E's attacks are similarly illogical.
This part is actually dangerous.
Faurisson then asked you whether you "understood that much anti-Nazi propaganda is just that? That there was no soap made from human fat? That the confession of Rudolph Hoss, commandant of Auschwitz was extorted by coercion and in any case mentioned a total death at Auschwitz that not even the Israel experts at Yad Vashem credit?
"Your unbelievable reply: "Here, my answers are yes and yes, because I know that the story in the first case, and Hoss in the second, have been debunked." And who "debunked" these stories other than Faurisson himself? Who?
There was no soap made from human fat, this was in fact a rumor that went around the camps. You can find a minority of historians who believe there may have been a single experiment based on very shaky evidence.
Hoess was in fact tortured, he signed something saying that he had killed three million people at Auchwitz. Hoess knew how many had died and said in his memoirs that it was 1.1 million. That's exactly what the last demographic study done says it was and that number isn't disputed.
This is exactly what deniers thrive on. Those things weren't "debunked", that was a stupid word for Hitchens to use. These things weren't being claimed by serious historians.
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