I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Karen Hughes has been responsible for pimping that particular marketing campaign (with the help of Pickles, of course).
Who are they kidding? Improve the lives of women in the ME while they're doing everything in their power to destroy them at home?
Karen Hughes hasn't taken the Public Diplomacy position yet.
Also, while I don't a lot about the status of women's rights in Saddam's Iraq, you're right, the culture bore no resemblance to Afghanistan.
Anyway, it's primarily about the WMD, and don't lose site of that!
http://asilentcacophony.blogspot.com
gherkin^3!
or ^4. 
women. who needs em? we have embryos for growing the perfect, snowy white race.
Karen Hughes hasn't taken the Public Diplomacy position yet.
i wonder why. hmmm...
oh sweet! haloscan is fucking up, and has gone into the future again!
This is a good illustration of how well general American ignorance served the warmongers' interests. Anyone who knew anything about Iraq and was willing to be honest about it knew that the invasion of Iraq was not at all likely to result in nan increase in rights for Iraqi women.
Sharing recipes and shopping tips are hardly the kinds of improvements they need in the Middle East.
"I wonder why. hmmm..."
Watertiger says she's having trouble finding size 15EEE pumps.
Karen Hughes is a fecal crust on Liddy Dole's auxiliary nipple.
This is a good illustration of how well general American ignorance served the warmongers' interests. Anyone who knew anything about Iraq and was willing to be honest about it knew that the invasion of Iraq was not at all likely to result in nan increase in rights for Iraqi women.
yeah, well, it's also kinda hard to say we went there to help the women, because well, they had more rights under saddam then most countries in the area. i wonder how long it will take before they are completely subjugated? I mean, remember the Promise Keepers? I have a feeling we have a few Promise Keepers driving things who really don't care how women are treated there. Honestly, i doubt the status of women ever came up.
I have an old recording of Debbie Reynolds and Rev. Billy Graham in an interview for Redbook Mag. back during the Korean War. She absolutely fits the Karen Huge oops Hughes model for the American woman.
At one point she is commenting on how "You cannot have a six year old taking care of a four year old and living out in the back yard in the garage as they do in Korea." I wish there was a way for me to record and post the thing. It really is funny.
So I guess we should be invading Saudi Arabia next, right? I mean, to help the women and all?
Bebe's back!
Watertiger says she's having trouble finding size 15EEE pumps.
oh DAMN! i think i saw karen hughes at the Austin Airport last summer. the reason i think that is that i saw a women that looked like her, and i shit you not, i had a pang of inexplicable terror.
i saw richard belzer once at Dulles airport, and i felt giddy. so my terror wasn't produced by seeing someone famous. 
Irma Parhad was a neurologist I went to at JHU. From Baghdad. Educated under Saddam of course. Very Westernized.
Well, I guess if she's still alive her daughters won't have to put up with that Western college study and Western dress and whatnot any more. Liberation baby!
retards on the march. this is stunning.:
May 28, 2005
Smithsonian to Screen a Movie That Makes a Case Against Evolution
By JOHN SCHWARTZ
Fossils at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of Natural History have been used to prove the theory of evolution. Next month the museum will play host to a film intended to undercut evolution.
The Discovery Institute, a group in Seattle that supports an alternative theory, "intelligent design," is announcing on its Web site that it and the director of the museum "are happy to announce the national premiere and private evening reception" on June 23 for the movie, "The Privileged Planet: The Search for Purpose in the Universe."
The film is a documentary based on a 2004 book by Guillermo Gonzalez, an assistant professor of astronomy at Iowa State University, and Jay W. Richards, a vice president of the Discovery Institute, that makes the case for the hand of a creator in the design of Earth and the universe.
News of the Discovery Institute's announcement appeared on a blog maintained by Denyse O'Leary, a proponent of the intelligent design theory, who called it "a stunning development." But a museum spokesman, Randall Kremer, said the event should not be taken as support for the views expressed in the film. "It is incorrect for anyone to infer that we are somehow endorsing the video or the content of the video," he said.
The museum, he said, offers its Baird Auditorium to many organizations and corporations in return for contributions - in the case of the Discovery Institute, $16,000.
When the language of the Discovery Institute's Web site was read to him, with its suggestion of support, Mr. Kremer said, "We'll have to look into that."
He added, "We're happy to receive this contribution from the Discovery Institute to further our scientific research."
The president of the Discovery Institute, Bruce Chapman, said his organization approached the museum through its public relations company and the museum staff asked to see the film. "They said that they liked it very much - and not only would they have the event at the museum, but they said they would co-sponsor it," he recalled. "That was their suggestion. Of course we're delighted."
Mr. Kremer said he heard about the event only on Thursday. He added that staff members viewed the film before approving the event to make sure that it complied with the museum's policy, which states that "events of a religious or partisan political nature" are not permitted, along with personal events such as weddings, or fund-raisers, raffles and cash bars. It also states that "all events at the National Museum of Natural History are co-sponsored by the museum."
Evolution has become a major battleground in the culture wars, with bitter debates in legislatures and school boards, national parks and museums. Although Charles Darwin's theory is widely viewed as having been proved by fossil records and modern biological phenomena, it is challenged by those who say that it is flawed and that alternatives need to be taught.
When asked whether the announcement on the Discovery Institute's Web site meant to imply that the museum supports the film and the event, Mr. Chapman replied:
"We are not implying in any sense that they endorsed the content, but they are co-sponsoring it, and we are delighted. We're not claiming anything more than that. They certainly didn't say, 'We're really warming up to intelligent design, and therefore we're going to sponsor this.' "
So I guess we should be invading Saudi Arabia next, right? I mean, to help the women and all?
jezebel
It's worked SOO00oooo well so far. Read Riverbend.
re smithsonian:
oh for god's sake. that's it. maybe they're doing it to highlight the idiocy of the argument. it's like what john stuart mill said in criticizing censorship. he said that if we encourage people to speak about their idiot ideas then the marketplace of ideas will destroy the idiocy. but i think he was assuming that most people have brains and possess analytical skills. i also think that he was rather critical of religion, so perhaps... eh. i can talk myself around a pole if i want!
BKNY--that is a horrible statement.
Real scientists know that believing in something is not a criterion for its validity.
It's worked SOO00oooo well so far. Read Riverbend.
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I do. It's heartbreaking.
Can you explain something to me? If Intelligent Design is correct, why did God create such a dumb sack of shit as Liddy Dole? A four year old could do better with some silly putty and grape jelly.
"Most of these types of fear are illogical in the probability sense. You, my dear reader, are more likely to die because you didn't use a seat belt or because you smoked or drank or ate the wrong things than in the hands of a terrorist or in the grips of the avian flu."
Very true: Odds of death and injury sorted by means
Parsing Bush's lies is a fools game. Because everything he says is a lie.
While your arguing over his latest bit of Orwellian catalpulted propoganda, he's promoting some failure upward.
Rob, from the United States of Gitmo.
soon to be riding his bike by the statue of liberty.
I wonder how much Bush could get that on Ebay for.
Why don't one of you leftwingnutjobbers put a picture of the statue of liberty up for sale, except minimize the fact that it's just a poster. Might get some national press. Of course, the sellers name would be POTUS. the description something along ther lines of : "tainted lady, disgraced icon for sale,out with old, in with the new,"
the new being a statue of Linsday Englund with a leashed Muslim.
Go Team America!
If it had been about women's rights, then it would have been goodbye for our good buddies, the House of Saud. Ya gotta admire the way those guys handle their women, that's for sure.
(irony alert)
I'll see if I can get a little 12 inch model with a picture of NY harbor in background.
E-mail me at robertell@hotmail.com if your willing to sell it as Mr. POTUS.
On intelligent design-
ID is a test actually, if you beleive it, your a failure
I can just see Chimpy whining into the microphone and shrugging his shoulders saying "ehhhhhh..I mean..the Smithsonian co-sponsored the film...the Smithsonian!....smirk."
"We are not implying in any sense that they endorsed the content, but they are co-sponsoring it, and we are delighted..."
Reading between the lines, I see that the Smithsonian thinks this movie is so poor it will play like a comedy. Nothing like pointing and laughing with a few friends, if you ask me.
I'll bet that ID movie never is shown at the Smithy.
Damn, I'm ready to give up on tags.
I am really thinking about impeachment for all those who led us into this occupation for selfish corrupt reasons. So many have died, so many sacrificed without any human concern. Is there a better reason to impeach?
Some activists are lukewarm on this, fearing impeachment to be unrealistic in the light of the Repub/Dem imbalance in Congress. Yet, look at what's been happening - no one thought getting Barbara Boxer to stand up against ratifying the Ohio vote would happen, and it did. The times are changing.
William Rivers Pitt of Truthout says in a recent article (Exploit the Rift), that there is civil war starting between the "old-line" Repubs and the "new-cons." So let's begin exploiting the rift!
Also, as dancewater says in her blog, the Downing St. memo should help this impeachment effort along. What say?
Hmm, it seems that jezebel already noted the saudi irony. Not surprising given that the last part of her name has long been recognised to be a sign of her devotion to Ba'al.
Reading between the lines, I see that the Smithsonian thinks this movie is so poor it will play like a comedy. Nothing like pointing and laughing with a few friends, if you ask me.
I wouldn't be too sure of that. The Smithsonian *is* an arm of the government, and I seem to remember reading something about a new director who was a total sellout, offering to let major sponsors create their own exhibits.
This was a few years ago, so it may have changed - but most likely for the worse.
well, here's the real reason we went to Iraq:
http://www.torontofreepress.com/
...cover052405.htm
bkny
When you read things like that, aren't you happy you live in NYC. The fundies don't seem to be making many inroads here.
a new director who was a total sellout
Well, that sucks.
Why does Bush hate science?
Damn, I'm ready to give up on tags.
pixie,
No, no, NO!
That's not how we do things in Amurica anymore. You've got to blame someone or something else for your mistakes no matter how trivial.
Blame haloscan.
Also, as dancewater says in her blog, the Downing St. memo should help this impeachment effort along. What say?
I say blind loyalty to party is valued above all else on the Republican side. They've started to break ranks on a few things, but they won't on this, unless there is a massive groundswell of support for impeachment (I'd say a minimum of 60%, and probably more) by their constituents, to the point where they have to impeach to save their own sorry asses.
That's not how we do things in Amurica anymore. You've got to blame someone or something else for your mistakes no matter how trivial.
Blame haloscan.
If you give up on tags... the terrorists will have won.
*big reproachful puppy dog eyes*
Also, as dancewater says in her blog, the Downing St. memo should help this impeachment effort along. What say?
Only getting dems to win in 2006 will help the impeachment movement. but of course, like with reagan, they will say, "eh... he's almost done, why bother?"
and winning in 06 requires free and fair elections, which... well... you know.
(sacrifices rosy-cheeked fundie to Ba'al for the third time, and prays that haloscan won't eat this sacrifice too)
Why does haloscan hate America?
CS, you're right of course.
I blame Eli.
Eli must be stopped!
Ba'al and Jezebel--I was under the impression that Bush considered Saudi women a proper model for US women.
aki--you could increase the probability of dying in a terrorist attack if Bush decides he can't keep the country in line. I don't put it past him to arrange such a thing.
Only getting dems to win in 2006 will help the impeachment movement. but of course, like with reagan, they will say, "eh... he's almost done, why bother?"
And even then, I don't think it'll be enough - there are enough Dems who are functionally Republican that it'd never happen.
I see pixie was around last night...
I blame Eli.
Eli must be stopped!
pixie
2 months later...
"I... I'm... I'm not all that concerned about Eli... really. he's out there, sure, giving up on haloscan, but he's on the run. And besides... it's hard work."
I figure the Smithsonian sold out in 1975 or so when it hung a prop model of the Starship Enterprise in the National Air and Space Museum...
(I still have the postcard.)
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The Discovery Institute, a group in Seattle that supports an alternative theory, "intelligent design," is announcing on its Web site that it and the director of the museum "are happy to announce the national premiere and private evening reception" on June 23 for the movie, "The Privileged Planet: The Search for Purpose in the Universe."
It'll also be shown on Sci-Fi. The "purpose in the universe" turns out to be the creation of a 42-foot mummy.
What's the definition of a terrorist? This is frightening.
White House Wants Search Limits Overturned
2 months later...
"I... I'm... I'm not all that concerned about Eli... really. he's out there, sure, giving up on haloscan, but he's on the run. And besides... it's hard work."
All I have to do is hide, and I'll be immortal!!!
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
And even then, I don't think it'll be enough - there are enough Dems who are functionally Republican that it'd never happen.
oh that is so true. nope, impeachment will never happen. the republicans had no qualms about impeaching clinton for a blowjob--i mean--perjury late in his term, but the dems... the dems would say "it's not sporting, is it?" and as you pointed out, that just goes for those who might actually want to do it. the rest will just say that it isn't right.
"It'll also be shown on Sci-Fi. The "purpose in the universe" turns out to be the creation of a 42-foot mummy."
Here, I thought it was the sabre-toothed cats.
Who lives near Eli and has something that we want? Let's bomb 'em!
Ba'al, we treated the pork loin with TLC and it was tender and juicy and delicious. We hope it was a worthy sacrifice.
All I have to do is hide, and I'll be immortal!!!
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
just don't go on life support, and ask to be taken off, though. cuz then they'll pay attention to you and find you and have vigils and priests and t-shirts made and bumperstickers and radio shows and dominate the news and then a runaway bride will come to you and ask you to marry her and then you will be forced to accept haloscan as your lord and savior and it will all be over for you.
And the Bush administration and Fundamentalists and the Neoconservatives in general couldn't give two shits about women's rights. Remember, women are subservient to men. It's in the Bible.
At least the parts they read.
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"It'll also be shown on Sci-Fi. The "purpose in the universe" turns out to be the creation of a 42-foot mummy."
okay, wait a second. a 42-foot mummy showed up 2 weeks ago. what am i missing?
PoppieProng--in a bit under 5 hours, we have 'Sabretooth'! And then later, 'Dinocroc'!
Yea, women have it much better off in Iraq:
http://www.universalfriends.org/
...buses_Iraq2.htm
WARNING -- pornographic pictures of women being raped -- butit proves a point.
You can't stop Eli! If you stop Eli, scores of Eli's will rise to take his place!
Well, I'll have to stop Eli another day. Spawn of pixie awaits at an undisclosed location, requesting top secret memory card.
The drop goes down in ten minutes.
Later.
jezebel sez:
Who lives near Eli and has something that we want? Let's bomb 'em!
There's nothing in the East End that you want so bomb the other parts of the city.
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I can't stop Eli. We watch creature features together.
Upstairs kids.
WARNING -- pornographic pictures of women being raped -- butit proves a point.
Left of Reason
Those "rape photos" date back as far as the initial invasion of Afghanistan and were proven to be a hoax, from what I recall.
No, I don't have a link... it was quite some time ago...
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I can't stop Eli.
I'm with Sallyh on this one.
Despite the horrible threat that Eli poses to this board, I believe that sanctions and bribes will help to keep him from from further developing weePuns of Mass Destruction.
Ba'al, we treated the pork loin with TLC and it was tender and juicy and delicious. We hope it was a worthy sacrifice.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere -- 12:15 pm
fwiw: one of the alleged reason for the prohibition against eating pork in some cultures is that it too closely resembles the taste of human flesh...
i wouldn't know, just sayin'...
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Those "rape photos" date back as far as the initial invasion of Afghanistan and were proven to be a hoax, from what I recall.
yup. and the fact that they were a hoax was used against people who criticized the policies at abu ghraib. yet another instance where the right criticized a minute piece of info to distract from the larger picture. they are very good at it.
Spork, you're in the East End? I used to live in Shadyside! I moved, tho.
Who are they kidding? Improve the lives of women in the ME while they're doing everything in their power to destroy them at home?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Amen!
My problem is, I'd look good in a burkha (sp?).
But since I would not in a brown shirt, that kind of cancels the deal for me.
Hey, did y'all see the photo of Bush kissing that baby the other day? It's 'cause it was bald.
John Lithgow in "The World According to Garp" was more attractive than Karen Hughes.
John Lithgow in "The World According to Garp" was more attractive than Karen Hughes.
Terry C
Ummmm... I thought that was Karen Hughes.
Live and learn.
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Remember, women are subservient to men. It's in the Bible.
MisterX
Fuck them and their bible!
There are winners and losers in any "regime change," but it's clear that women as a group were big losers in Iraq.
And men aren't necessarily better off, either. It pains me to say it, but it seems Iraqis were generally better off under Saddam!
Hopefully, that'll change, but anyone who takes it as given that Saddam was so bad that our invasion was justified on human-rights grounds (I'm talking to you, Snitchens) is fooling him/herself.
Time to invade Qatar!
The trouble with impeaching dipwad is you end up with dipstick, unless it is a 2 for one vote deal.
What about the future of women like Nahle Sabet, who was once a pretty architecture student from a respected Christian family. But then she was abducted, raped, tortured, and finally served as food for uday hussein’s starving dogs. uday was next in line to be dictator of Iraq. This is just one example of the rape and murder which was routine under the sadistic tyranny of saddam hussein. During his reign of terror, Hussein murdered an estimated average of 100,000 citizens per year, as the mass graves attest. He gassed his own Kurdish people including women and children.
Today in Iraq, saddam's long, dark reign of terror, rape and murder is over. Thousands of people will live, who would have died under saddam. Millions more will breathe the sweet air of freedom and justice.
Yes, Sallyh, 'improve the lives of women in the ME while they're doing everything in their power to destroy them at home' - you are making such a good point! There's hypocrisy for you ..
Freedom Fan, when fundamentalist religious people gain the right to vote for their leadership, do ya think they are going to elect, Al Gore? It's only the not very religious who are terribly tolerant of religions they were not raised with. And history teaches us that women suffer terrible fates, including death and torture under theocratic governments. Whether they are stoned for adulterty or witchcraft, or just denied a meaninful right to participate in society, life for women really does not appreciably improve at all when one merely facilitates "regime change" without likewise securing the rights of minorities. Did you think I was talking about Iraq? Oh, sorry, I was discussing the collosal mistake of letting the red-staters near the ballot box.
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