I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Hoo boy.
now that, my friends, is snarky
Bow down before the one you serve. You're going to get what you deserve.
Bow down before the one you serve. You're going to get what you deserve.
Eli
HEad like a hole
blackens your soul
I'd rather die than give you control
Now doesn't it make you feel better?
The pigs have won tonight.
They can all sleep soundly.
And everything is alright.
The Liberal Media indeed.
Trent's such a baby.
to quote beavis
"huh, huh I've got a nine inch nail"
First they came for CBS
and I did not speak out because I did not watch 60 Minutes
Then they came for ABC
and I did not speak out because I did not watch Nightline
Then they came for Newsweek
and I did not speak out because I read Time
Then they came for MTV
and there was no one left to speak out.
I can dig it. After all, a network with a TV series about teenagers undergoing plastic surgery in order to vaguely resemble celebrities has to keep its standards up.
Good for NIN. I hope episodes such as this keep happening over and over.
Big Gay Al -- nicely paraphrased
I'm waiting for Gideon Yago to make some totally, like, deep observation about liberty of speech or something.
I think the key sentence in that article is: "MTV is owned by Viacom Inc., the corporate parent of broadcast network CBS."
Do you ever get the idea we are living in an alternate universe. Other than one wingnut at work, I don't know anybody who supported going to war, or who doesn't believe that w is an asshole. Yet they have all the power. What a happened to my country.
And the first one who says 9/11 changed everything gets a kick in the balls.
MTV is owned by Viacom Inc., the corporate parent of broadcast network CBS.
'Nuff said. And thanks again to Michael Powell.
Big Gay Al -- based on your handle, you may dig my take on so-called South Park Republicans
thank science and technology for this new media ... we're gonna need it
Check out the obsidean dildo that Laura Bush gave Liddy Dole:
http://www.boingboing.net/2005/
0..._sex_toys_.html
NIN 
MTV lost all of its soul years ago. Rebellion for money = not a rebellion at all.
"unmolested, straightforward image of George W. Bush"
=
"partisan political statement"
?
MTV is totally in the right.
Bands should not make political statements, and people watching MTV should ignore said statements and focus on what MTV wants them to:
Running up credit card debt, chasing sexy womens and mens, putting on Axe body spray, wearing American Eagle clothes, and crying over people getting kicked out of a house. Never mind the impending draft, because there's rides to be pimped and road rules to be broken, to the EXTREME.
God, damn MTV and all its viewers if that's the way things are.
Of course, I know about MTV's current content only through parodies of it on Robot Chicken.
And the first one who says 9/11 changed everything gets a kick in the balls.
Actually, what changed everything was a stupid big game hunter went back in time to hunt dinosaurs, didn't follow the strict rules, accidentally stepped on a proto-butterfly, thus altering the entire of arc history.
"unmolested, straightforward image of George W. Bush"
=
"partisan political statement"
?
Bonaparte
thous shalt not make any graven images of dear leader
THese guys are yet another example of the disintergration of free speech.
Soon we here in the left of the blogosphere will be the target,when that happens will we be prepared?
better yet, thank Al Gore for this new media ... we need it
And Nancy Pelosi needs to get her facts straight
NOT ALL POLITICAL STATEMENTS ARE PARTISAN.
Never mind the impending draft, because there's rides to be pimped and road rules to be broken, to the EXTREME.
Ahem. You meant XTREME.
I love how music has gone from the home of rebellion against the establishment to the establishment.
MTV = beyotches
Everyone knows that a neutral photo of Great Leader in time of war is objectively pro-terrorist. They should have used something more upbeat, such as a Sistine Chapel-inspired image of the hand of Great Leader touching the hand of Man. I'm pretty sure MTV could have lived with that.
..
Well, Trent just sold a tune to me. Just downloaded it from iTunes. I would love to know how many NIN sells today.
The funny thing is the comment that a rock music outlet would be "uncomfortable with their performance being built around a partisan political statement". I guess he missed the 60's.
Ahem. You meant XTREME.
Yeah. I did. I guess you can figure out from that gaffe that I am over the age of 24.
Never mind the impending draft, because there's rides to be pimped and road rules to be broken, to the EXTREME.
Ahem. You meant XTREME.
No, no, it's "XTREME!!!!!"
X-treme would be banned based on their unclean work Pornograffiti
OT-Conyer's panel on freedom of the press is scheduled for 8 (et) 5 (pt) today. Regular Cspan. A few Air America folks testified about the problems with the MSM.
so is Lee Greenwood replacing them?
Soon we here in the left of the blogosphere will be the target,when that happens will we be prepared?
I think that up until now they have been so arrogantly sure of themselves that they have not have considered us worthy of attention because we were just a small groups of nuts talking to ourselves. I don't know if that will continue to be true.
MTV may put on a good act of being socially liberal (to the point of being libertine) but it's still owned by Viacom.
Dog bites man, news at 11.
And the first one who says 9/11 changed everything gets a kick in the balls.
I think,in light of the new stories comming out about election fraud,we can make a strong case that the cabal planned the Day That Changed Everything.
History is showing us many things about this current gang,and their methods.Nothing they do is not telegraphed.
All I need to do is read the PNAC mission statement and know that 9/11 was not an accident,nor was it unforseen.
THis cabal tells us everything they are going to do up front,then they proceed to accomplish that goal.THe reason they get away with them is due to incredulousness on the part of those that refuse to believ ,and those that cannot believe that they would even attemp the things they are doing.
From now on I take everything they plan seriously and in full context.Conversley,I take everything the media pushes with a grain of salt.
The only trick is who to listen to.
I think that up until now they have been so arrogantly sure of themselves that they have not have considered us worthy of attention because we were just a small groups of nuts talking to ourselves. I don't know if that will continue to be true.
____league
but the myth can live because of the smearing by the right...objectively Secular Leftist bush haters Unite!
maybe garth brooks and trisha yearwood can reenact their engagement announcement.
when pap country music singers breed - can't be good.
when pap country music singers breed - can't be good.
watertiger
was that a typo, or on purpose...caue either way it sums it up
Fuck Bush and the cunt he was shat from
THe reason they get away with them is due to incredulousness on the part of those that refuse to believe
And they own all the aparatus of accountability. I've been lamenting the lack of oversight from congress since at least 2002, and who knows how many investigations a legitimate DOJ would have open on these crooks.
to quote beavis
"huh, huh I've got a nine inch nail"
olexicon
Several years ago, Courtney Love said it would be more accurate if Trent Reznor called his band "Three Inch Nails."
Then she went crazy, so draw your own conclusions as to her credibility.
Several years ago, Courtney Love said it would be more accurate if Trent Reznor called his band "Three Inch Nails."
Then she went crazy, so draw your own conclusions as to her credibility.
beekabeck
when is she nominated for Ambassador to Uruguay?
when is she nominated for Ambassador to Uruguay?
And that's only if Bolton falls through for UN...
NIN's video of 'the hand that feeds' playing on MTV now is one powerful thing.
It's a straight ahead live performance and it kicks ass.
when is she nominated for Ambassador to Uruguay?
huh huh
"You are gay..."
huh huh
Again...saw that on a parody on Robot Chicken...Swear to God.
olexicon,
t'was on purpose.
oh, and Bush salutes the war dead...
fucker.
And that's only if Bolton falls through for UN...
Eli
she seems about mentally balanced enough to be a bush nominee for either post
Why stop with downloading "Hand that Feeds" think I. I also bought "Closer", "March of the Pigs" and "Hurt" to express my approval of Mr. Reznor's fortitude. Go Trent, we got your back. But he already knows that. That song was already #1 in its genre in sales for the last two weeks. As he said in his message, "see you on our tour". He doesnt need MTV and he knows it. So he told them where to put it. Love it.
Olexicon: given that her parental skills are apparently on a par with Dear Leader and the Lump, I'm surprised the right wingers haven't tried to recruit Courtney Love yet.
olexicon,
t'was on purpose.
suspected as much, but one can occasionalky ahve difficulty with snarkcasm here in the hallowed halls
america's in a downward spiral.
Olexicon: given that her parental skills are apparently on a par with Dear Leader and the Lump, I'm surprised the right wingers haven't tried to recruit Courtney Love yet.
beekabeck
and also i considered her husbands death a national tradgedy which propelled her to greater fame, like bush and 9/11
given that her parental skills are apparently on a par with Dear Leader and the Lump, I'm surprised the right wingers haven't tried to recruit Courtney Love yet.
She has a lot in common with Dear Laura...both are drug addicts and killed their boyfriends.
Oooo. Is it too soon?
War & Piece
Apparently Bolton's successor has already been promoted to Bolton's old (oops, current) job. Wouldn't it be a shame if he doesn't get confirmed and is unemployed? Gotta love that "BushVision, reality be damned" attitude. Ha!
Jesus WT - That's one of the scariest pix of w I've seen. The man is absolutely deluded.
Now what happens to the faithful worshippers when he is out of office. Does their love and devotion automatically get transferred to the next repuke to run for prez. Hard to believe they can work up the same level of rapture for Frist.
"thus altering the entire of arc history.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 05.28.05 - 2:16 pm | # "
That would explain an awful lot.
(what makes weblog junkies such sci-fi freakazoids?)
-
Eli, if you're still about, this one's for you!
Drunkee, 
This reminds me of when that Dixie Chick trashed GW and some radio stations refused to play their songs. I remember reading their sales when up.
Go NIN.
The man is absolutely deluded.
he's making Kim Jong Il seem positively selfless.
Well, I'm hung over and haven't had coffee yet, so no, it's not too soon, Drunkee.
Eli, if you're still about, this one's for you!
watertiger |
that is one reason i believe in the culture of death
Meant to say that despite my bedraggled condition, I laughed, so it wasn't too soon, Drunkee.
Going to get that coffee now.
Yah, I saw that, tigre. Gah.
Ahahaah, call Dr. Dobson!
Listening to the lyrics to "Closer" and although there is one word I cant quite make out it goes like this:
"I want to fuck you like an animal
I want to feel you from inside
I want to fuck you like an animal
My whole existance is gone (?)
You get me closer to God"
Oh my, that boy needs a silver ring fast!
man I didn't get the memo.
Since when did MTV have anything to do with music?
Heres a link to the NIN video
My whole existance is gone (?)
Might be "flawed."
Or "wrong."
Might be "flawed."
Eli |
yes it is, and I only know that vbecause of the Richard Cheese and Lounge against the MAchine cover of that song
eMpTy-tV is going to have Tom Cruise, $cientology stooge, as the host of their movie awards. Last night he was on Access Hollywood, where he opined that Brooke Shields should not have taken antidepressants when she suffered from postpartum depression. He suggested vitamins instead. Shields' publicist retorted that he should stick to saving the planet from space aliens.
Of course, Brooke Shields, merely by taking Paxil, has immunized herself from being recruited by $cientology. Per the "church's" policy, you can't get services if you've taken psych drugz or certain illegal drugs (like LSD). Tee hee.
yes it is, and I only know that vbecause of the Richard Cheese and Lounge against the MAchine cover of that song
Mwahahaha. Brilliant stuff.
I'll try listening with headphones. That might help. I suspect there isnt a word in any language that would make Rev. Dobson approve however. Listening to "March of the Pigs" now.
"The pigs have won tonight
They can all sleep soundly"
Good stuff. Cheers me up just listening to it.
at least brooke shields doesn't engage in fake relationships to boost movie sales.
i hate tom cruise.
Mwahahaha. Brilliant stuff.
Eli
yes, taht and their cover of "Holiday in Cambodia" are reasosn to go on living
i hate tom cruise.
You're only pretending to hate Tom Cruise to advance your career. We see right through you.
I like the Johnny Cash version of "Hurt" better, but the NIN one isnt bad.
I like the Johnny Cash version of "Hurt" better, but the NIN one isnt bad.
Grimmest, creepiest fucking video I hae *ever* seen.
You're only pretending to hate Tom Cruise to advance your career. We see right through you.
Am I that transparent? (sob)
what is tom cruise's real last name?
Now seems to be the appropriate time to recommend Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt. Very powerful, esp. when paired with the original.
And, in the words of Beck, "MTV makes me wanna smoke crack."
MTV makes me want to smoke crack.
Am I that transparent? (sob)
Well, I probably wouldn't have even noticed if I hadn't been trying to see through your clothes...
Scientologists, unite!
Oops, beaten again!
If the backdrop was Hillary Clinton, do you think MTV would have squelched the idea? Nope.
I went to the local hippie-supply shop yesterday to get a bunch of peace-sign buttons to hand out to my friends this weekend, and they were all sold out. The young woman behind the counter was in the midst of ordering more even as I spoke to her -- she said they've been selling like hotcakes.
A small sign?
Speaking of which, I wish I had a flag with the stars arranged in a peace sign, you know? Putting up one of those in my sedate suburban neighborhood (which did go big for Kerry, btw) would be a good thing. Where can I find one of those, do you suppose?
i hate tom cruise.
Now now.Hate is word the right wants to label us with.
WOuldnt disdain,or distend,or maybe even abhor, excrete , or loathe, be better terms?As the right is so illiterate they would consider these terms more soothing to their pathetic existance?
Tom Mapother.
"i hate tom cruise."
--watertiger
I started to express my feelings for Tom Cruise but it was so x-rated, I had to delete it.
Well, I probably wouldn't have even noticed if I hadn't been trying to see through your clothes...
heh.
MTV makes me want to be an Asian-African shorty with a babydaddy and bling, who also appreciates the intricacies of Dave Matthews.
I've been here in Greece for the past three weeks, preparing for my permanent move to Europe.
I've had a lot of conversations with Greeks about the political state of affairs in the United States today.
Surprisingly, a large portion of them understand that the American media is nothing but a propaganda machine and not very free at all.
This helps them not hold so many of the American government's sins against the American people themselves. After all, they seem to reason, the American people don't know any better because they're being kept uninformed and brainwashed.
Fortunately or unfortunately, I'm not as forgiving as they are. With so many options out there today--i.e., the Internet--there really is no excuse for Americans being so fucking dumb.
I still think they're a lousy
band, but my respect for them
has just gone up tremendously.
Ahem. You meant XTREME.
Don't you mean, XPECTED?
At the Convention this past summer I got my favorite pin: A Woman Belongs in the House: The Senate and The Oval Office
Did Frist Blow Bolton Vote? And What's Trent Lott Up To?
Just read the first four words
watertiger:
Are you meeting NYMary and Thers
tomorrow?
Do you know the details?
Stranger and Mrs. Stranger want
to attend as well.....
Good video. Gawd, Im 50 and I still love loud guitars and an angry screaming vocalist, aka, rock 'n roll.
what is tom cruise's real last name?
The piper's son.
what is tom cruise's real last name?
sunzoo
voinovich!
that is one reason i believe in the culture of death
olexicon
Olex, I'm confused. Which culture of "death" are you referring to? The one that kills in war and torturing, and has seen a 25% increase in abortions (per Dean) or the one that supports choice and wants national health care to keep the poor from dying early deaths?
Olex, I'm confused. Which culture of "death" are you referring to? The one that kills in war and torturing, and has seen a 25% increase in abortions (per Dean) or the one that supports choice and wants national health care to keep the poor from dying early deaths?
Pitchforks and Torches
the latter not the former, I just enjoy using the rightie smears as a compliment rather tha an albatross
"The piper's son."
--Chauncy Gardner
...Away did run.
That one?
plus I'm canadian so we already have nationalized health care, and I tend to vote NDP, which is the lefiest left party
the hand that feedsNIN
you're keeping in step in your line
got your chin held high and you feel just fine
'cause you do what you're told
but inside your heart it is black, and it's hollow
and it's cold
just how deep to you believe
will you bite the hand that feeds?
will you chew until it bleeds?
can you get up off your knees?
are you brave enough to see?
do you wanna change it?
what if this whole crusade's
a charade
and behind it all is a price to be paid
for the blood on which we dine
justified in the name of the holy and the divine
just how deep to you believe
will you bite the hand that feeds?
will you chew until it bleeds?
can you get up off your knees?
are you brave enough to see?
do you wanna change it?
so naïve
i keep holding on to what i want to believe
i can see that i keep holding on and on and on
will you bite the hand that feeds you?
will you stay down on your knees?
will you bite the hand that feeds you?
will you stay down on your knees?
will you bite the hand that feeds you?
will you stay down on your knees?
will you bite the hand that feeds you?
will you stay down on your knees?
By the way, I am a psychiatrist.
It makes perfect sense. Rock 'n' roll has always been sensitive to the wishes of the predominant regime in power and has never wished to offend the sensibilities of the political right.
*snark off*
MTV has sucked the hairy moose cock for at least a decade -- ever since it decided to redefine itself as a "young adult lifestyle" channel rather than a music channel. Musically, it has become useless and irrelevant.
OT, but Olexicon, have the Canadians fallen for Rove's sponsorship ploy, or has it been investigated and put aside like it should be?
By the way, I am a psychiatrist.
Tom Cruise |
and a scientologist!
MTV lost all of its soul years ago. Rebellion for money = not a rebellion at all.
Ragdrazi | Email | Homepage | 05.28.05 - 2:15 pm | #
MTV never had a soul. They are quite simply the longest running infomercial in the history of television.
OT, but Olexicon, have the Canadians fallen for Rove's sponsorship ploy, or has it been investigated and put aside like it should be?
Pitchforks and Torches
what sponsorship ploy?
Via Americablog:
NEW YORK - A federal judge has told the government it will have to release additional pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, civil rights lawyers said.
Judge Alvin Hellerstein, finding the public has a right to see the pictures, told the government Thursday he will sign an order requiring it to release them to the
American Civil Liberties Union, the lawyers said.
the sponsorship scandal?
Or the rise of religiosity to kill gay marriage with the asssiatnce of Dobasojn Acolytes?
olexicon, The sponsorship scandal, the one I believe was put in place by the US admininstration to throw a wrench in that socialist barb-in-the-ass of Bush and his henchmen. They hate Canada, you know, and would do anything to sink the Liberals.
steve,
still working out the deets. will have more info later.
I once let L. Ron Hubbard write "dianetics" in cherry lipstick on my ass, then lick it off... (the lipstick, that is).
-Liddy Dole
olexicon, The sponsorship scandal, the one I believe was put in place by the US admininstration to throw a wrench in that socialist barb-in-the-ass of Bush and his henchmen. They hate Canada, you know, and would do anything to sink the Liberals.
Pitchforks and Torches |
okay, wow i never knew that Karl rove was Keyser Soze,
_The Gomery Commission goes on, the moinority government lives because a conservative crossed the floor, and the concservatives are stuck at 30% popularity
(addedum)
I bnever heard that!
It had crossed my mind, but how could he have Sheila fraser involved since she is the one who exposed it?
questions for me to answer on my own
And here is why christianity, and judeo-christianity in general, must be opposed for the sake of freedom.
"A Los Angeles Times review called the song "a warning against blind acceptance of authority, including that of a president leading his nation to war.""
And why would the religious right think that rejecting 'blind acceptance of authority' is so dangerous? Something to be opposed and destroyed?
Why would they be so eager to recklessly support and follow the will of a moranic president who claims a foundation in christianity?
Because in their minds there was one other entity who also rejected blind acceptance of authority, and for his crime was cast down from heaven.
Figure it out yet?
Rejecting one's blind acceptance of authority is not the kind of role model they follow mind you.
MYOB'
.
From the Bad News/Good News file:
The Bad News: The John M. Olin foundation financed The Federalist Society, the Heritage Foundation, and Charles Murray.
The Good News: The John M. Olin Foundation is closing its doors.
Part Medici, part venture capitalist, the John M. Olin Foundation has spent three decades financing the intellectual rise of the right and exciting the envy of the left. Now the foundation is closing its doors. In telling the organization to spend his money within a generation, John M. Olin, a Midwestern ammunition and chemical magnate, sought to maximize his fortune's influence and keep it from falling into hostile - that is, liberal - hands.
More
watertiger:
But it's tomorrow, right?
Not ce soir......
Judge Alvin Hellerstein, finding the public has a right to see the pictures, told the government Thursday he will sign an order requiring it to release them to the
American Civil Liberties Union, the lawyers said.
Funny,I seem to remember the supremes giving orders to the government and have yet to see any results from that order.What makes the judge think this case is going to be any different?
Let me reiterate...
I am really loathing this administration.
I detest its policies and I protest its decisions to try and remake our way of life.
olexicon, the Bushites will be anyone and do anything to destroy us. They'd out Trojan the Trojans if it meant taking power.
if the sponsorship was a Rovian Ploy, it is failing, Toronto Star has published a poll that shows Liberals gaining and Conservatives sliding in Canada
Ayn Rand was a fucking bitch!
olexicon, the Bushites will be anyone and do anything to destroy us. They'd out Trojan the Trojans if it meant taking power.
Pitchforks and Torches
The current government may be percieved as criminals but they still don't trust steven "Family values" harper
MTV also will not air A Perfect Circle's video for their cover of John Lennon's Imagine.
Imagine that...
While eveyrone was busy gushing over M&M's "watch me cash in on an election" video, MTV was busy putting the breaks on A Perfect Circle's video that simply showed news footage.
They'd out Trojan the Trojans if it meant taking power.
But 9/11 changed everything!
If crashing airplanes into buildings is'nt a trojan horse,I dont klnow what is.
Next you'll be telling me Rolling Stone has sold out.
I think it's safe to say the Yankees are toast, so I've switched over to Gargantua on Sci-Fi, starring Adam "Not Actually A Baldwin" Baldwin.
MTV never had a soul. They are quite simply the longest running infomercial in the history of television.
Indeed. They've always been weenies. They want all the rock, but omigosh, better make nobody ever gets offended.
... And I'm pretty sure I just saw Gadzooky.
Steve,
Oui. Tomorrow eve.
"Not ce soir......"
Yes, you promised ce soir avec moi!
starring Adam "Not Actually A Baldwin" Baldwin.
A Baldweenie.
Eli--you'll have to tell me how 'Gargantua' is. I'm going to have to go to the market tres quick--the last diet Coke is in the fridge, and Monsieur gets very nervous when we're down to the last diet Coke. Which, btw, I think is among the nastiest beverages on the planet.
Thanks to Golden Earring, "ce soir" immediately makes me think, "Remember that song called 'Kill Me'?"...
Their other stuff (besides the obvious two) is really good, IMO.
Hey watertiger, do you have a 'chronic' guy?
He doesnt need MTV and he knows it. So he told them where to put it. Love it.
Sentenza -2:35 pm
well, he does need ClearChannel, though. They own/manage almost all the major sound venues in the world. If they should follow MTViacom's lead, it would hurt...and they might well...thet've done it the past, iirc...
Haven't read the whole thread, so someone's likely already pointed out that the CMT has not problem with entire songs that are political statements, see, e.g., I'm proud to be an American where at least I know we'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.
Why didn't the other acts walk out, as well? Toto, I don't think we're in the sixties anymore.
Eli--you'll have to tell me how 'Gargantua' is.
So far, it looks like Adam Baldwin is the widower seismologist too absorbed in his work to have time for his alienated son, who is now attempting to bond with Gadzooky. And there's some chick the seismologist will presumably hook up with.
And now Gadzooky's ma or da just popped a beachball and tried to eat a kid.
Hey watertiger, do you have a 'chronic' guy?
I think she'd rather have acute one...
'MTV sucks.'
Was that too, umm, obvious? Heh.
Why didn't the other acts walk out, as well? Toto, I don't think we're in the sixties anymore.
Hecate
i read that and suddenlty i had "africa" going through my head
But 9/11 changed everything!
If crashing airplanes into buildings is'nt a trojan horse,I dont klnow what is.
smalfish
9/11 Conspiracy theories are still considered tin-hat. That may change. I'd put good money on M.Moore to continue his investigations and point out the battery of public information that may sway the public over to the conspiracy side. I recently found out (but is this true?) that the 4th plane's debris was scattered over many miles... that's not a crash, it had to be shot down for that to happen. Sorry about the long entry here...
Hey watertiger, do you have a 'chronic' guy?
Baking powder?
Also, I would suggest to you that if you have a T-Rex style monster, it looks kinda silly if both feet are off the ground at once when it's running.
Just sayin'.
Wow,some good news for a change...At least news that helps.
Buy-cott
It turns out that Citgo, US refining firm and a national chain of gas stations which pepper our town, is a subsidiary of Venezuela’s state-owned oil company. Who knew?
Citgo is helping free the masses from tyrany.Hello Citgo.I think (no,I know)I'm going to be seeing alot more of you.
i read that and suddenlty i had "africa" going through my head
at least it wasn't "Roseanna".
Because in their minds there was one other entity who also rejected blind acceptance of authority, and for his crime was cast down from heaven.
/churchlady
Hmmmm, now who could that be? Could it be SATAN?
/churchlady
i read that and suddenlty i had "africa" going through my head
at least it wasn't "Roseanna".
I always wanted to have a really dysfunctional & unhealthy relationship with someone named Larraine, so that after we broke up I could say, "I can see clearly now, Larraine is gone."
at least it wasn't "Roseanna".
watertiger
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhaahhhhhhhhhhhaa
or
nOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Next you'll be telling me Rolling Stone has sold out.
Actually, RS has been getting much better in the past year.
WGG - Motley Crue, off all people, showed with their latest tour that it is possible to do an end run around Clear Channel.
If the Crue can do it, NIN won't have a problem.
Also, I have the almost-Toto ("The Far Corporation", IIRC) cover of "Stairway To Heaven" on MP3...
(there was a guy in my dorm sophomore year who *loved* Toto, and insisted that their version of Stairway was superior to the original - granted, that's kind of a low bar...)
I can see clearly now, Larraine is gone.
ELI MUST BE STOPPED!
[/The Kenosha Kid]
Dude, it's pathological, this need to pun.
I always wanted to have a really dysfunctional & unhealthy relationship with someone named Larraine, so that after we broke up I could say, "I can see clearly now, Larraine is gone."
Eli
that's why it's good to go out with someon named "michelle" cause you can use the beateles for the good times and G'nR fopr the bad
Dude, it's pathological, this need to pun.
Eightfold pathological, or shining pathological?
that's why it's good to go out with someon named "michelle" cause you can use the beateles for the good times and G'nR fopr the bad
Or, if you're into rap, date a woman named "bitch" or "ho."
And now to put the laundry in the dryer.
Dude, it's pathological, this need to pun.
watertiger |
it's cancer and I'm... whats' the cure for cancer?
it's a sickness, Eli. Seek medical attention, stat!
(doesn't stop me from laughing tho)
use the beateles for the good times
I once saw Flo & Eddie do a cover of 'Michelle,' with the following lyrics:
Michelle, you're swell
Oh, Michelle, you're swell
Michelle, you're swell
Michelle, you're swell
You had to be there. One of the funniest things I've ever seen a band do.
9/11 Conspiracy theories are still considered tin-hat.
It was considered tin foil to think elections could be stolen,or rigged (which ever you prefer).THat "conspiracy theory" has now been debunked to be credible and for real.Whats the problem with making the statement that 9/11 was a planned event?
They needed it to promote hysteria and create a national fervor to "promote democracy".They acheived that with mystical precision,there was a catlyst needed and 9/11 was just the ticket.They're own mission statement bears witness.
"What we need is another pearl harbor event"
it's a sickness, Eli. Seek medical attention, stat!
Would sexy nurses be involved?
And why would the religious right think that rejecting 'blind acceptance of authority' is so dangerous? Something to be opposed and destroyed?
Why would they be so eager to recklessly support and follow the will of a moranic president who claims a foundation in christianity?
Because in their minds there was one other entity who also rejected blind acceptance of authority, and for his crime was cast down from heaven.
Figure it out yet?
Rejecting one's blind acceptance of authority is not the kind of role model they follow mind you.
MYOB'
.
Unfortunatley, your analysis leaves something out. Jesus Christ was CRUCIFIED by the powers-that-be of his time because he refused to play along and just "blindly accept authority." In fact, he consistently called out the religious leaders of his day (who were just as political then as so many of the religious leaders of today are) out on their hypocrasy, evil, and phony teachings and beliefs.
For this, they ganged up on him and, with the help of the "secular" Roman authorities, nailed him to a cross.
Those "Christians" who preach blind acceptance of authority, in my opinion, have no real idea about what Christianity is truly about. If they did, they'd take a cue from the person they claim to be their leader and savior and start following suit.
Also, the Biblical prophetic tradition, from the Exodus through Revelation, is nothing but a constant struggle between people of real faith and real integrity fighting the political authorities of thier day (Pharohs, emperors, kings, "false prophets", religious leaders and teachers) in the name of truth.
So, your analysis is off base.
The real problem is that the authoritian types you rightly rail against are basically sick people, who have been raised in authoritarian families and social networks, and now are perpetuating the mindset that was beaten into them. They have a personality disorder. They are so warped, in fact, that the religious among them can't even read their own Bibles and see what is there in terms of an example of how authority should be treated from the perspective of authentic faith.
For those who were wondering, it was apparently Gadzooky's da, and it's a giant bipedal salamander.
Adam Baldwin also identified the creature he had never seen before as a male, based on its markings.
You know, I used to think Toto
were the lamest band ever.
But some of these younger
whippersnappers are making
me rethink that judgement.
Sort of like how Michael Bolton
sucked so bad he made me appreciate
Darryl Hall.
Sort of like how Michael Bolton
sucked so bad he made me appreciate
Darryl Hall.
steve simel
and John Oates just had a mustache and an afro and made you feel good about yoourself
cue
"maneater"
Sort of like how Michael Bolton
sucked so bad he made me appreciate
Darryl Hall.
It's fun to watch Hall & Oates videos and try to figure out whose idea it was based on which one looks really into it, and which one looks vaguely embarrassed.
Adam Baldwin just referred to the creature he identified as a giant amphibian as "Superlizard."
Sigh.
I always thought Supertramp were worse than Toto. But that's like saying cancer is worse than leukemia.
It's fun to watch Hall & Oates videos and try to figure out whose idea it was based on which one looks really into it, and which one looks vaguely embarrassed.
Eli
and now Garfunkle, messina, and Oates
nothing yet, but it's heartening to see these groups come together to work this issue:
May 29, 2005
Health Leaders Seek Consensus Over Uninsured
By ROBERT PEAR
WASHINGTON, May 28 - At a time when Congress has been torn by partisan battles, 24 ideologically disparate leaders representing the health care industry, corporations and unions, and conservative and liberal groups have been meeting secretly for months to seek a consensus on proposals to provide coverage for the growing number of people with no health insurance.
The participants, ranging from the liberal Families USA to the conservative Heritage Foundation and the United States Chamber of Commerce, said they had made progress in trying to overcome the ideological impasse that has stymied action on the problem for eight years.
The group, which first came together last October, has not endorsed any specific plan, but has discussed a range of options, including tax incentives for the purchase of insurance, changes in Medicaid to cover more low-income adults and the creation of insurance purchasing pools at the state level.
"This effort holds as much promise as any I've participated in over the last decade, probably more," said Kate Sullivan Hare, the executive director of health care policy at the United States Chamber of Commerce.
Historically, such efforts have failed because of profound disagreements over the proper role of government. The group is far from any final agreement, but persists in seeking common ground, even as the problems of the uninsured have been eclipsed on Capitol Hill by Social Security and other issues.
I don't have any problem with a 9/11 conspiracy theory. But obviously, it's a long way off from acceptance. It's not even a though to the MSM. Runaway brides, oh yes, let's cover it. Security breeches, recounts, fraud??? Nah!
I always thought Supertramp were worse than Toto. But that's like saying cancer is worse than leukemia.
Which makes me think of The Logical Song, which makes me think of crap lyrics, which makes me think of America and Emerson, Lake, & Palmer ("Touch and go, friend or foe, caught without a warning like a UFO").
Fortunately or unfortunately, I'm not as forgiving as they are. With so many options out there today--i.e., the Internet--there really is no excuse for Americans being so fucking dumb.
Jeremiah Elias --2:56 pm
Actually, there are several valid reasons:
1) The culture of work: the folks who are educated enough to make a difference if they were to become motivaqted and activized are, instead, kept at work more and more of their waking hours. They take their work home with them, and devote to it the hours they could otherwise invest in self-and global understanding (which is implicated in #2, below).
2) The culture of school: school (which i distinguish from 'education') rewards conformity, univocalism, orthodoxy. The curriculum typical of US Schools emphasizes rote memorization of formulaically organized information, all of which is overlaid with a veneer of jingoistic, patronizing nationalism in the service of the consumer economy (which feeds #1, above, and #3, below).
3: The culture of trained incapacity: Veblen's term, later it became transmuted into the 'blame-the-victim' screeds of learned ignorance. The people are actively trained to concede their own stakes in the world around them to 'higher authority.' This is accomplished through the tools of credentialism. It's why the Fundies, f'rinst, always tout the conversion of 'scientists' to their 'side'; except when it suits them to attack the credentials of their critics with virulent anti-intellectualism.
btw, i am a tad envious of your proposed relocation...otoh, i'm planning on taking a few with me when they come...so, it all works out...
I always thought Supertramp were worse than Toto. But that's like saying cancer is worse than leukemia.
The Kenosha Kid
can i get an "Amen"
three words
"the logical song"
that is all
the Biblical prophetic tradition, from the Exodus through Revelation, is nothing but a constant struggle between people of real faith and real integrity fighting the political authorities of thier day (Pharohs, emperors, kings, "false prophets", religious leaders and teachers) in the name of truth.
But see, all those political authorities were bad guys, while ours are clearly good. You don't rebel against good political authorities unless you're bad. And a heathen.
Which makes me think of The Logical Song, which makes me think of crap lyrics, which makes me think of America and Emerson, Lake, & Palmer ("Touch and go, friend or foe, caught without a warning like a UFO").
Eli |
as hank hill said he liked the concept of "america" not necesaarlily their music
WGG, you left out the culture of TV - particularly reality TV, which teaches Americans that being devious, nasty, & selfish are positive character traits and the keys to success and personal fulfillment.
Apparently, Gadzooky likes cheesy poofs...
Adam Baldwin just referred to the creature he identified as a giant amphibian as "Superlizard."
And now they just used to internets to discover Valuable Clues!
WGG, you left out the culture of TV - particularly reality TV, which teaches Americans that being devious, nasty, & selfish are positive character traits and the keys to success and personal fulfillment.
Eli
Well, smack me and change my name to J.R. Ewing.
But some of these younger
whippersnappers are making
me rethink that judgement.
simels ... Name names, please.
Tramps like us!
Baby we were born
to pun!
(sorry Boss)
.
Ahh, anice swipe at DDT.
THis movie might have hope after all.
Has Trent been working out? He's got biceps like Henry Rollins. All the skinny little goth-industrial kids must flee in terror when they see his pectorals entering the club.
I think the paparazzi are going to blow this giant salamander story wiiiide open.
Heh, you can see the line attached to the front of the motor boat to guide it along...
Gargantua is rather cute.
Tramps like us!
Baby we were born
to pun!
(sorry Boss)
Pun in the USA!!!
Ah, and I guess the giant salamander I thought was Gadzooky's da is more like his slightly larger brother...
I guess I'm crazy, but this AP article given the front-page treatment at USA Today is bizarre beyond belief.
May 28, 2005
While Other World Leaders Stumble, Bush Gains Clout
[...]
"Nearly all his fellow leaders of the world's big industrial democracies have stumbled. It has left them vulnerable at home and weakener on the world stage.
"The president, through it all, is riding what he sees as a strong re-election mandate to trumpet his goal of spreading democracy.
"That helps explains why Bush, despite a slip in his approval rating among Americans, may find himself holding the stronger hand when he travels in early July to Scotland for the annual summit of the leaders of the eight major industrialized democracies."
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A "slip" in his ratings. And it looks like if Bush believes in his Man-Date, some obedient typists at the AP are going to wave it around.
Weird.
I am sooo there for Crimson Force next week. C. Thomas Howell and Freaky Eye People!
Rezner says hes been sober 4 years, so he's probably into the workout, health thing now.
Muscles, the new black.
See, here's the thing. I dislike Supertramp as much as the next person, and I HATE the logical song, but...
I really like 'goodbye stranger'--does that make me a bad person? or just someone with poor musical taste?
strong re-election mandate to trumpet his goal of spreading democracy.
Who writes this bile?
Democracy at the point of a barrel is not want I would call freedom.
Muscles, the new black.
Looks like I'm plaid, then...
The president, through it all, is riding what he sees as a strong re-election mandate to trumpet his goal of spreading democracy.
This long after the election and he still thinks he has a mandate? He should get over it.
I really like 'goodbye stranger'--does that make me a bad person? or just someone with poor musical taste?
TJ
neither, I'm sure we all have a skeleton in our closet
I have an ELO problem myself
I am sooo there for Crimson Force next week. C. Thomas Howell and Freaky Eye People!
Yeah, it looks wicked cool.
does that make me a bad person? or just someone with poor musical taste?
There's a difference?
I probably shouldn't say that - between my girlfriend and I, at least one of us likes every single crap song the 80s ever produced...
as for 9-11 conspiracy theorists not finding fertile soil remember it took a while for a majority of people to believe the j.f.k. thing was 'fishy.' still though the msm refers to lee harvey oswald often as if he was guilty.
"The president, through it all, is riding what he sees as a strong re-election mandate to trumpet his goal of spreading democracy.
OMG, it's like pre-war Germany. We need to be building bomb shelters under our homes.
That's not wierd. That's total propaganda. Goebbels salutes from his grave. Dear Leader is not unpopular. He never makes a mistake. And a couple of stolen percentage points makes a strong mandate.
I hate these fuckers -- all of them -- because we are the fuckees. And it's the worst sex I've ever had.
The Authoritarian Personality
Here's a neat little tool.
My score (1.9) qualified me as a 'whining rotter."
I have an ELO problem myself
Love the ELO. Also Golden Earring, Sisters Of Mercy, Sparks, and Oingo Boingo.
And Nick Cave, but that's perfectly reasonable.
I hate these fuckers -- all of them -- because we are the fuckees. And it's the worst sex I've ever had.
Toonscribe
No kidding. Well put.
I have an ELO problem myself
I have that problem, too.
On a note I am not ashamed to sound, I am (still) nuts about that blue Weezer record. I heard the new one is really good, too.
Also, I have the almost-Toto ("The Far Corporation", IIRC) cover of "Stairway To
Heaven" on MP3...
Eli | Email | Homepage | 05.28.05
Eli --
Ever hear "Stairway to Gilligan's
Island" by Little Roger and the
Goosebumps?
Lyrics to "Closer"
Hot and dark.
On a note I am not ashamed to sound, I am (still) nuts about that blue Weezer record. I heard the new one is really good, too.
Res Ipsa Loquitur |
that reminds me of my university days, so i can see why you would still have a thing for it
I have an absurd amount of Nick Cave on my iPod.
Ever hear "Stairway to Gilligan's
Island" by Little Roger and the
Goosebumps?
Nooo... I have the Tiny Tim cover, tho.
My score (1.9) qualified me as a 'whining rotter."
Me too!
I have an absurd amount of Nick Cave on my iPod.
The Kenosha Kid
any Birthday Party?
That's not wierd. That's total propaganda.
no shit. How anyone can write that with a straight face or read it without want to cry or scream is beyond me.
Re: all the confessionals about "bad" music, just remember, if it sounds good, it is good. Thanks, Duke...
I have an absurd amount of Nick Cave on my iPod.
68 songs on it, 114 off.
And it's the worst sex I've ever had.
Toonscribe
I believe it was Thersites who described current times as being the closest thing to experiencing the 1960's, having dropped some bad acid.
I have no Birthday Party - not sure where to start with them.
goddammit. now i have sci fi on.
[shakes fist at Eli]
heh. i know what happens at the end. i've seen this before.
Oh, and Gadzooky is afraid of snakes, so all they need to do to get rid of Gargantua is find a 200' snake.
btw, i am a tad envious of your proposed relocation...otoh, i'm planning on taking a few with me when they come...so, it all works out...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar
==
I love you.
Hey everybody!
if it sounds good, it is good.
No, that's "if it FEELS good," NTodd.
I'd join in on your "Mtv sucks" crusade if they didn't play my band's music there so much...
Well, OK. It does suck. (I guess..it sucked last time i watched).
Even though they pay me.
Which makes me think of The Logical Song, which makes me think of crap lyrics, which makes me think of America and Emerson, Lake, & Palmer ("Touch and go, friend or foe, caught without a warning like a UFO").
"Touch and go" was Emerson, Lake & Powell
I have no Birthday Party - not sure where to start with them.
The Kenosha Kid
just dabble
a little dabble do ya
A friend recently suggested that rock music can only be listened to anymore through the filter of nostalgia. He contends that not only is it no longer transgressive in spirit or content, but that it is incapable of being so any longer. If that is indeed true, MTV bears much of the blame.
I got a 2.2, qualifying me as a "liberal airhead." Heh. Rather apt, that.
speaking of king of the hill,
my young one said Bobby Hill sounds like Janis Joplin.
According to my "f" score" "You are a liberal airhead." Think how much easier and more pleasant my life would be if I were an airhead.
I have no Birthday Party - not sure where to start with them.
Doesn't matter, really...
"Touch and go" was Emerson, Lake & Powell
My bad. I don't really make a distinction...
David, that's why Nirvana hit it big. People crave authenticity. Too bad that when they get it, they fuck it up.
Bobby Hill's voice is done by a woman. She appeared on an episode or two of that show Unscripted. Yes, she sounded like Janis Joplin.
thanks to avedon, I am now listening to the whole new NIN album streaming at this site.
It's pretty good.
This internets thing is pretty cool.
I love you.
Hey everybody!
mena -- 4:02 pm
Put Me Down! You don't know where I've been!
Well,
I liked Supertramp, and Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Does this make me an idiot?
I'm sorry.
What country is this again?
What liberal media?
MTV? Aren't they supposed to be programming for young people? "Breaking all the rules" blah blah blah?
Yeah, right.
Corporate corpses everywhere.
.
speaking of Nirvana, saw a picture of Francis Bean yesterday--she looks so adorable--it'll be a miracle if that kid turns out okay, after all she's been through with her mom. Has someone else been raising her?
I liked Supertramp, and Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Does this make me an idiot?
Look! A giant salamander is laying waste to the island!
But some of these younger
whippersnappers are making
me rethink that judgement.
simels ... Name names, please.
Res Ipsa Loquitur | Email | Homepage
Well, I think those Queens of the
Stone Age totally suck.
Did you see them on SNL the other
week?
Will Ferrell did his cowbell routine
with them....otherwise, they would
have been unbearable.
(What band is Lancelot Link Secret Chimp in?)
Has someone else been raising her?
Wolves. They do a much better job.
Wolves. They do a much better job.
==
Who would do worse?
Well,
I liked Supertramp, and Emerson, Lake & Palmer. Does this make me an idiot?
sally |
no, just doin't like the same stuff as others, everyone is entirled to freedom of taste
a 1.9 whining rotter here too
(What band is Lancelot Link Secret Chimp in?)
Gorillaz?
Hairosmith?
Eddie Monkey?
My first rock concert was ELP at Madison Square Garden.
2.3, liberal airhead, probably because I tend to be equivocal...
everyone is entirled to freedom of taste
For the time being. However profit margins can be increased if there is less variation in taste in the future. You have been warned.
fist concert bb king / canned heat
ELI MUST BE .. you know.
a 1.9 whining rotter here too
please re-link this test to which you refer...
the new System of a Down album is pretty sweet, as is The Mars Volta, and they are very proggy
everyone is entirled to freedom of taste
Freedom from taste... Is what you want...
THat thing called me a "Liberal Airhead."
Liberal: guilty has charged.
Airhead: nope.
Kenosha - mine (god help me) was Elton John.
I see you're still going with that whole eli must be stopped thing. Even though you can clearly see that he's a Perpetual Pun Machine?
Airhead: nope.
How about Clean-Air Head?
Count me among the whiny rotters.
For the time being. However profit margins can be increased if there is less variation in taste in the future. You have been warned.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
curses!
this is why i shall move to australia - because the scientists talk like this:
Australian scientists stunned by crab invasion
MELBOURNE, Australia (AFP) - A 50,000-strong swarm of spider crabs gathered off a Melbourne beach this week, covering a stretch of seafloor the size of a football field and likely "scaring the hell" out of local fish, marine scientists said.
(snip)
of course, it could be a signal of the end of the world.
Did you see them on SNL the other
week?
I usually cringe during the musical performance segments on "SNL."
please re-link this test to which you refer...
http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm
Oh yeah, fire a handgun at the giant salamander. That'll help.
Freedom from taste... Is what you want...
Eli
Why when i see herr president does the song "mongoloid" seem suitable
usually cringe during the musical performance segments on "SNL."
I do too but System of Down was enjoyable and the Scissor Sisters disco version of "Comfortably Numb" was hilarious.
My first concert was actually cool as shit. The Police @ My Father's Place in Roslyn, Lawn Guyland. I was a little kid! My best friend's brother was watching us for the evening and he packed us in the car and said we were going to a club. We didn't know what we were going to see, only that he was taking us to a bar! Only the first Police record ("Outlandos D'Amour") was out (I think). We had a blast.
David, that's why Nirvana hit it big. People crave authenticity. Too bad that when
they get it, they fuck it up.
mena | Email | Homepage | 05.28.05 - 4:05 pm | #
Kiddo: You're totally right.
However....
The Banana Splits.
The last great rock band.
Another cool thing NIN did for fledgling musicians with macintoshes is that Reznor released the "bite the hand" song as a GarageBand file.
It was fascinating looking at the different tracks that make up the song- and messing around with them.
( I know it isnt the first time bands have done this, but they have been acid files-PC only)
I have faith that one day the Democrats will reclaim Congress, that the US will leave Iraq, and Eli will stop punning.
but that it is incapable of being so any longer. If that is indeed true, MTV bears much of the blame.
I agree to a point,but you leave out some of the major factors.
Clear chanel and the likes are killing the music industry.THey are the ones who promote music along with Emptv,AND promote it with political ideology insted of whos actually good enough to publish.
MELBOURNE, Australia (AFP) - A 50,000-strong swarm of spider crabs gathered off a Melbourne beach this week, covering a stretch of seafloor the size of a football field and likely "scaring the hell" out of local fish, marine scientists said.
Is the Queen Spider Crab recruiting?
Oh man, the giant salamander stepping on a rowboat, accidentally flipping it in the air to hit the guy with the rocket launcher, has got to be one of the silliest things I've seen since the 42' bowflex wicker man...
Hey Eli:
That's a heck of a big lizard!!!!
I do too but System of Down was enjoyable and the Scissor Sisters disco version of "Comfortably Numb" was hilarious.
The Killers were quite good.
I have faith that one day the Democrats will reclaim Congress, that the US will leave Iraq, and Eli will stop punning.
Ah yes, Pungress is the key. We pungressives *must* retake the government!
That's a heck of a big lizard!!!!
Flattery will get you everywhere.
2.06 -> liberal airhead
cool, i got no problem with that. 
Ah, found it.
I am a liberal airhead, she said, twirling her hair around one finger.
Ya know, the more I think about this mtv thing, the more I realize it's not at all surprising--didn't they have the Bush twins on the show last time around?
afternoon free stinkers!
Is there anyone *not* rooting for the giant salamanders?
I saw John Cale at My Father's Place around 1981 or so. It was supposed to be a Dead Boys show, but Stiv flaked out.
I saw John Cale at My Father's Place around 1981 or so. It was supposed to be a Dead Boys show, but Stiv flaked out.
The Kenosha Kid |
that wacky stiv bators, when will he learn
not enough buildings and public modes of transportation get destroyed in this movie.
,MELBOURNE, Australia (AFP) - A 50,000-strong swarm of spider crabs gathered off a Melbourne beach this week,
were they wearing sailors?
olexicon ... What was the cool club doing on Lawn Guyland?
Oh man, the giant salamander stepping on a rowboat, accidentally flipping it in the air to hit the guy with the rocket launcher, has got to be one of the silliest things I've seen since the 42' bowflex wicker man...
I don't think that's any sillier than how Mansquito finally got offed.
Okay, bitches, this is how old
I am:
First rock concert?
The Beach Boys, Asbury Park
Convention Center, June 1965.
They premiered "California Girls,"
which didn't get released till
a week later.
not enough buildings and public modes of transportation get destroyed in this movie.
It's only a small island. You gotta destroy the buildings you have, not the buildings you want.
were they wearing sailors?
just the pants.
2.3
Liberal Airhead
----sounds about right
plus alast weekend i learned i was postmodern
Hey, so far all the liberal airheads are women, except eli.
I don't think that's any sillier than how Mansquito finally got offed.
That was *before* the 42' bowflex wicker man, so my assertion is still valid.
First rock concert?
The Beach Boys, Asbury Park
Convention Center, June 1965.
Did they pun, pun, pun 'til her daddy took the T-Bird away?
(sorry)
Either steve was two years old when he attended that concert, or he's older than me.
42' bowflex wicker man
have we ever figured out what that was all about?
it was so. . . absurd.
My "f" score
You are disciplined but tolerant; a true American.
I can live with that,but I hate to be classified.
olexicon ... What was the cool club doing on Lawn Guyland?
Res Ipsa Loquitur
quoi?
Hey, so far all the liberal airheads are women, except eli.
Where are you going with this?
Hey, maybe we should have an airheads-only slumber party or something...
Did they pun, pun, pun 'til her daddy took the T-Bird away?
Was this before or after their ride on the Sloop Pun B?
My Father's Place.
How did such a cool club wind up on Long Island? When I grew up there Long Island was a wasteland.
Tom Cruise's real name is Tom Snodgrass.
Hey, so far all the liberal airheads are women, except eli.
QL in NY |
I am a dude, dude!
Hey, maybe we should have an airheads-only slumber party or something...
Eli
Yer gonna need an experienced chaperone.
Or something.
NTodd: Good podcast. BTW, historically, less than 20% of Friends have chosen not to fight. My grandfather fought in WWI, but it was not something the family talked about. He was injured and had a limp. Talk about kicking someone when they're down.
I scored a 1.86
I, too, am a whining rotter.
Rotters of the world unite!
How did such a cool club wind up on Long Island? When I grew up there Long Island was a wasteland.
Res Ipsa Loquitur
AHA!
A cool club in an uncool place
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Tom Cruise's real name is Tom Snodgrass.
Tom Cuise's real name is Toothy McOverrated.
Hey, maybe we should have an airheads-only slumber party or something...
Eli
how do you feel about wearing make-up?
Was this before or after their ride on the Sloop Pun B?
Eli
Pudding it be nice
My Father's Place was an institution. I think it dated from the mid-70's or so. There were other 'cool' clubs on Long Island back then, but they were very short lived. I saw Echo & The Bunnymen in a club called 'Spit' that was in Hempstead (?) and apparently closed in two weeks. Their first US show, I believe (they sucked). And I remember some place in Lido Beach that was very hip for a while.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
What, exactly, did they *expect* to happen???
2.4
Olexicon - I'm feeling kinda ironic.
historically, less than 20% of Friends have chosen not to fight. My grandfather fought in WWI
Yeah, a conservative friend of mine (retired founder of our company, in fact) always reminds me of that. And I always remind him of the non-Quaker COs I know! It's part of our dynamic.
how do you feel about wearing make-up?
Depends on how it's applied...
Either steve was two years old when he attended that concert, or he's older than
me.
The Kenosha Kid | Email | Homepage | 05.28.05 - 4:25 pm | #
Yup, two years old.
How perceptive of you.
"You know, there could be others
out there...."
A 50,000-strong swarm of spider crabs gathered ...
Well, I have been a bit infested lately.
-Liddy Dole
I saw Echo & The Bunnymen in a club called 'Spit' that was in Hempstead (?) and apparently closed in two weeks.
I think I remember that club being advertised on WLIR.
Remember when WLIR was a "southern rock" format? It would be winger central if it were still around. When did it switch to "new wave" or whatever-it-was-called?
Such a long, long way from "My Bodyguard"....
Sadly, the 500,000 spider crabs all starved to death when they could not find a reliable source of fly crabs...
I am a dude, dude!
olexicon
++++++++++++++++++++
Nothing wrong with that.
I guess that makes me a dudette.
What, exactly, did they *expect* to happen???
That they would join the giant salamander mutants in a round of Kumbaya.
Who really smiles like Tom Cruise? Dude looks like he's fixin to chew his way through a steel cage whenever a Nikon comes within range.
Res Ipsa,
I was listening to WLIR in the late '70's - '87 or so. Then they switched to Top 40 shite.
mmmmmmm... spider crab legs.....
1.7667
So, there's 37 minutes left, and they killed the giant salamander *mother*.
I wonder what else might happen.
The main guy in this Sci Fi movie looks familiar, anyone know who he is?
Sadly, the 500,000 spider crabs all starved to death when they could not find a reliable source of fly crabs...
Eli
==
See, I would have guessed Red Lobster.
I definitely remember WLIR being southern rock. They switched to 'New Wave' (y,sscuwtt) after WNYU started becoming very popular. Remember the 'post-punk progressive pop party?' (or was that the Hofstra station?)
That they would join the giant salamander mutants in a round of Kumbaya.
Idealist.
I wonder what else might happen.
I know what happens, I know what happens...
Nothing wrong with that.
I guess that makes me a dudette.
QL in NY |
Dudely noted
watertiger ...
WHen I was a really little Res, my cousin (on whom I had a sick little crush) listed to WLIR, which was then "southern rock." I remember him going to WLIR's "Party in the Park," which was a southern rock show in Central Park. At some point (late '70s?) it switched to new wave. After that Police show (approximately 1980-81?) my friends and I were listening to WLIR.
The main guy in this Sci Fi movie looks familiar, anyone know who he is?
Adam Baldwin. Not a Baldwin brother, but he's been in some stuff, including a small role in Independence Day (the guy who shoots the captured alien, IIRC).
I wonder what else might happen.
Nothing much, I'm pretty sure.
OT: John Conyers
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I Need 100,000 Signatures on Downing Street Letter
I Will Personally Insure that It is Delivered to the White House
I have written to you in this space on a number of occasions about my profound concern about the implications of the "Downing Street Memo," which actually consists of the minutes of a July 2002 meeting between British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top advisers. During this meeting, Blair and his advisers reveal details about conversations with their American counterparts. These details cast substantial doubt on the honesty of contemporaneous claims made by the Administration to Congress and to the American people about the Iraq war.
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Sign Conyer's Downing Street Memo Letter here
Am I having a sixties moment about this? Yes, I am, as in Civil Rights revival meetings in Mississippi in 1965 and the Anti-War Rally in Washington, DC in 1969. If you've already signed, please contact people you know. Conyers is asking for 100,000 signatures. If he can't get a couple of million, this country ain't worth saving.
One good sign: Took a couple of times for the site to load.
I know what happens, I know what happens...
Dude, don't spoil it for the rest of us!
Something just killed a couple of soldiers and dragged the mommy salamander away, but I don't know what it is yet.
Levitra - for when HE wants it.
Of course, SHE has no say in the matter.
Adam Baldwin. Not a Baldwin brother, but he's been in some stuff, including a small role in Independence Day
Ah ha! I know him from playing "Jayne" in Firefly.
"I'll be in my bunk"
Remember the 'post-punk progressive pop party?' (or was that the Hofstra station?)
I don't remember that at all. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, though.
Echo and the Bunnymen. What were their songs?
We lived in New Hyde Park for 16 years. Got to see Ellen DeGeneris at a comedy club on Jericho Turnpike. She was/is one funny lady.
Levitra - for when HE wants it.
Of course, SHE has no say in the matter.
watertiger
That's why they made phenoBarbietol.
Levitra - for when HE wants it.
Of course, SHE has no say in the matter.
watertiger
plus some hysterical blindness so HE can Want it, But HE can't have it
My Father's Place.
How did such a cool club wind up on Long Island? When I grew up there Long
Island was a wasteland.
Res Ipsa Loquitur | Email | Homepage
I actually played at My Father's
Place.
Guitar.
Thanksgiving weekend, 1975.
Backing Carly Simon's older sister
Lucy. On her world tour of New York.
With the drummer from Orleans.
Boy, was it lame.
At the time in question, their only 'big' songs (played on college radio) were Rescue and The Puppet. Later they came up with better songs - A Promise, The Killing Moon, Never Stop etc.
Echo and the Bunnymen. What were their songs?
Lips Like Sugar, Bring On The Dancing Horses, I Want To Be There When You Come...
2.5
.
*wonder how much Echo & The Bunnymen is on the Preznit's iPod*
Not a Baldwin brother, but he's been in some stuff, including a small role in Independence Day (the guy who shoots the captured alien, IIRC).
You are correct. Also was a semi-regular on X-files.
You sure as hell were on SOMETHING last night, agave...
*wonder how much Echo & The Bunnymen is on the Preznit's iPod*
Eli
Oh, they represent, man, they represent.
You are correct. Also was a semi-regular on X-files.
I thought he might have been, but wasn't sure if I was confusing him with Kryten, or whatever his name was.
Levitra - for when HE wants it.
Of course, SHE has no say in the matter.
Well, duh.
I wonder how much NTodd is on the Preznit's iPod?
WT - and as Katha Pollitt pointed out, I bet the pharmacist doesn't ask him if he is married before filling the prescription. Fuckers.
Levitra - for when HE wants it.
Of course, SHE has no say in the matter.
Well, duh.
I suspect "female Levitra" will bear a striking chemical resemblance to GHB...
I wonder how much NTodd is on the Preznit's iPod?
The Kenosha Kid
They're able to patch in Karl Rove at any moment. Why not NTodd?
I thought he might have been, but wasn't sure if I was confusing him with Kryten
Alex Krycek. He was so dreamy. Did a short stint on CSI.
Gee I wonder if this Aussie will get eaten?
Echo and the Bunnymen. What were their songs?
Lips Like Sugar, Bring On The Dancing Horses, I Want To Be There When You Come...
Yep. All of the above.
NTod, which character on X-Files was this Baldwin?
Alex Krycek. He was so dreamy. Did a short stint on CSI.
Yeah, that was it.
Uh-oh! Comeuppance is a bitch!
Jeremiah Elias:
Jesus Christ was CRUCIFIED by the powers-that-be of his time because he refused to play along and just "blindly accept authority." In fact, he consistently called out the religious leaders of his day (who were just as political then as so many of the religious leaders of today are) out on their hypocrasy, evil, and phony teachings and beliefs.
Yes... I've been re-reading the Gospel of Matthew lately. Every time I do, I'm amazed anew by how its portrait of Jesus the rebel mystic, who is devoted to helping the poor and sick, and who repeatedly, explicitly tells his followers to do the same, bears almost no resemblance to whoever it is the fundies think they're worshipping.
In that sense, NIN's first-ever hit song strikes me as, well, remarkably Christian:
God money's lot looking for the cure
God money's not concerned about the sick among the poor
God money let's go dancing on the backs of the bruised
God money's not one to choose
No, you can't take it
No, you can't take it
No, you can't take that away from me
No, you can't take it
No, you can't take it
No, you can't take that away from me
Head like a hole
Black as your soul
I'd rather die
Than give you control
Head like a hole
Black as your soul
I'd rather die
Than give you control
Bow down before the one you serve
You're going to get what you deserve
Bow down before the one you serve
You're going to get what you deserve...
--NIN, "Head Like a Hole"
I wonder how much NTodd is on the Preznit's iPod?
I'm not in Gitmo, so he's prolly not a regular listener.
NTod, which character on X-Files was this Baldwin?
Uh...he was a buddy of Doggett's--like a Navy intel guy or something, IIRC.
Tom Cruise's real name is Tom Snodgrass.
Where'd you get that information? According to the internet movie database, Tom Cruise's birth name was Thomas Cruise Mapother IV...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000129/bio
...he was a buddy of Doggett's
Oh. I quit watching after Duchovny left.
According to Tom Cruise's publicist, his real name is Joe Straight.
Echo and the Bunnymen. What were their songs?
Did they do the "People Are Strange"
cover on "The Lost Boys" soundtrack?
Only 80s bands I listened to
were Husker Du and the Replacements.
--NIN, "Head Like a Hole"
Anyone know where I can d'load that one?
Oh. I quit watching after Duchovny left.
Yeah, the last coupla seasons paled, but we stuck with it 'til the end.
Did they do the "People Are Strange"
cover on "The Lost Boys" soundtrack?
Yes.
Mary, Mary, where ya goin' to?
People are strange - yes. They also covered Friction by Television and Foggy Notion.
I liked Husker Du back in the day but was never into the Replacements. Didn't you like The Minutemen? I bet you did.
Umm,never mind.I found it.
Yeah, the last coupla seasons paled, but we stuck with it 'til the end.
I tried, but it just didn't hold my interest. It was pretty creaky even towards the end of the Duchovny era.
I suspect "female Levitra" will bear a striking chemical resemblance to GHB...
ai-yah.
I wonder what would happen if pharmacists had to call out "LIMP DICK!" every time a guy came in to pick up an order.
And when they replaced Duchovny with Ted McGinley, well, that was just the last fucking straw.
Kid, your voice has already changed. Time to be a man.
Personally, I thought Ted McGinley was cool, but who was that little guy he was married to? The one that looked like a chicken?
I wonder what would happen if pharmacists had to call out "LIMP DICK!" every time a guy came in to pick up an order.
Lots of dead pharmacists, I reckon.
And when they replaced Duchovny with Ted McGinley, well, that was just the last fucking straw.
Eli
Knock, knock.
Whose there?
....UNICEF....
I loved the Replacements. I wasn't paying a lot of attention to the scene in the 80s, I was busy being a mommy. I really felt that it was an okay time to check out since not much that I heard sounded good to me. I still stand slack-jawed at the whole madonna phenom - just don't get it. But the Replacements stood out.
I wonder what would happen if pharmacists had to call out "LIMP DICK!" every
time a guy came in to pick up an order.
watertiger | Email | Homepage | 05.28.05 - 4:51 pm | #
Oh god.
I have such mixed feelings about
that joke.
Mary, Mary, where ya goin' to?
Zach Wheat
Oh my goodness, a Monkees reference?
-
All I could think of when I read the blurb was,
And so it was, our beloved corporate gods
Claimed they created rock video...
It's a new frontier, they say,
It's wide open; anything can happen!
But you've got a lot of nerve
To call yourself a pioneer
When you're too goddam conservative
To take real chances...
MTV get off the
MTV get off the
MTV get off the air!
That'd be "MTV Get Off The Air" by the Dead Kennedys, still as true today as it was back in the '80s, alas.
I'm surprised no one beat me to it.
Personally, I thought Ted McGinley was cool, but who was that little guy he was married to? The one that looked like a chicken?
Anyone else think it was an odd coincidence that the two leads from from Fright Night (William Ragsdale, Amanda Bearse) ended up back-to-back on Fox for a while (Married With Children, Herman's Head)?
This is one of the many things that amuses only me, I suspect...
damn, i'm going to miss "Dinocroc" tonight. Bloody social life.
Personally, I thought Ted McGinley was cool, but who was that little guy he was married to? The one that looked like a chicken?
The Kenosha Kid
Al Bundy to the white courtesy phone
WHat happened to that guy from the REplacements?
Paul Westerberg? Went on to a solo career.
damn, i'm going to miss "Dinocroc" tonight. Bloody social life.
You'll tape it, of course.
I wonder what would happen if pharmacists had to call out "LIMP DICK!" every
time a guy came in to pick up an order.
watertiger
I'd buy him a coke!
Mary, Mary, where ya goin' to?
Zach Wheat
Oh my goodness, a Monkees reference?
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MisterX | Email
as well as a RUN DMC reference
AND "Crimson Force", Eli. I'm missing that next week.
I'd buy him a coke!
Isn't coke one of the things that causes the problem?
mena:
IMHO, the Replacements are the
great American rock band after
the Sixties.
Passionate, funny, heartbreaking,
loud guitars....hell, they may
be the greatest rock band ever.
Paul Westerberg is god.
That's why they named the high school
in "Heathers" after him.
AND "Crimson Force", Eli. I'm missing that next week.
And you call yourself an Atriot...
"Lyrics to 'Closer'
"Hot and dark."
Avedon 05.28.05 - 3:57 pm
Ha! I just referenced this one over at Rising Hegemon ($$). Ahhhhh, two ships passing on the internets.
2.1333333333333333
Unapologetic Liberal Airhead
And you call yourself an Atriot...
I'm a single woman in NYC first, Eli. Only so many Saturday nights in a month, know what I'm saying?
BTW, how did Sci-Fi manage to get John McCain to be on Battlestar Galactica? That's quite a casting coup!
Oh my goodness, a Monkees reference?
-
MisterX
What's the use in trying?
All I get is pain.
When I needed sunshine on my brain.
Actually, the RUN-DMC reference is "Mary, Mary, Why ya buggin'?"
You don't want to know how many people have asked me that over my life.
I did not know that steve. I've never seen Heathers. I really meant it when I said I wasn't paying attention to the scene at the time. Any scene. It's interesting to experience pop culture second hand though. Plus, I pretty much caught back up. It ain't rocket science.
Only so many Saturday nights in a month, know what I'm saying?
No idea. All squeaks and whistles here.
Via left coaster.
Whatever mistakes the Iraqis may have made in their struggle toward freedom, "They haven't made a compromise as bad as the one in 1789 that made my ancestors three-fifths of a man,'' said Rice, a black woman, in reference to the U.S. Constitution's original compromise on slavery. -Condi Rice
Your F Score is: 2.533333333333333
You are a liberal airhead.
What bullshit.
Actually, the RUN-DMC reference is "Mary, Mary, Why ya buggin'?"
You don't want to know how many people have asked me that over my life.
NYMary/Lissadel
yes but the "MAry Mary" part is smapled from the monkees...so it's all the circle of life
Eli,
Luckily, we'll be out with the other Atriots for "Faith of My Fathers," which promises to be as cheesy as any Sci-FI monster flick.
Whatever mistakes the Iraqis may have made in their struggle toward freedom, "They haven't made a compromise as bad as the one in 1789 that made my ancestors three-fifths of a man,'' said Rice, a black woman, in reference to the U.S. Constitution's original compromise on slavery. -Condi Rice
WTF???
That's a new low in non-sequitur idiocy, even for Condi.
Whatever mistakes the Iraqis may have made in their struggle toward freedom... "
Whatever mistakes the IRAQIS have made?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
/head exploding/
Whatever mistakes the Iraqis may have made in their struggle toward freedom, "They haven't made a compromise as bad as the one in 1789 that made my ancestors three-fifths of a man,'' said Rice, a black woman, in reference to the U.S. Constitution's original compromise on slavery. -Condi Rice
why do the founding fathers hate america?
Somebody had to say it
Actually, the best version of
"Mary Mary" is -- believe it or
not -- on the second Paul Butterfield
Blues Band album.
olexican,
Believe me, I know the Monkees well. I'm a pop geek, don't forget!
Whatever mistakes the IRAQIS have made?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
Well, inviting us in was a biggie, for starters...
Actually, the best version of
"Mary Mary" is -- believe it or
not -- on the second Paul Butterfield
Blues Band album.
steve simels
I think Neil Diamond penned that tune.
What's the use in trying?
All I get is pain.
When I needed sunshine on my brain.
Zach Wheat
Oh no, don't look at me like Auntie Grizelda...
-
I'd rather go watch 'The Longest Yard' myself.
compromise as bad as the one in 1789 that made my ancestors three-fifths of a man,''
==
I loathe this woman more with each passing day.
olexican,
Believe me, I know the Monkees well. I'm a pop geek, don't forget!
NYMary/Lissadell
Now i shall always remember
Rows of houses that are al the same,
And the kids just doon't unerstand.
Paul Butterfield! Oh my god, steve, you and I have so got to tawk.
Oh, a touching end to Gargantua. Kids and their dads...awwww!
Hey, I just realized that the giant mutant salamander family is a metaphor for the kid's own family!
Man, this Gargantua movie is fucking deep. It make you all thinky with the symbolism and shit.
Oh boy, a music thread!
That'll get my mind off this song deadline i'm facing....
I never did "get" the replacements, but Husker Du/Minutemen/Meat Puppets was definately one of the best shows i ever saw.
Oh, and I'm a 2.666 liberal airhead.
woopee!
I've seen Haloscan versions with spellcheck.
I'll coin up on this blog for the help.
steve,
Is The Records' Odds and Ends what you're looking for?
Zach Wheat:
Nope, not Neil Diamond.
Mike Nesmith.
steve,
Didn't Neil write some of their stuff?
Wow. THe Red Sox beat the Yankees 17-1 today.
oops, Oliver Stone arested for DUI and possession....
http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/...t.ap/
index.html
Wow. THe Red Sox beat the Yankees 17-1 today.
Oy. I stopped watching after the Renteria grand slam made it 9-0. I began to suspect that it just might not be the Yankees' day...
Wow. THe Red Sox beat the Yankees 17-1 today.
Res Ipsa Loquitur
Peter Wholestaff must have been pitching for the Yanks.
Sabertooth-
David Keith,Vanessa Angel,John Rhys-Davies 2002 A big game hunter searches for genetically engineered sabertooth tiger after it escapes from a scientists lab.
Very nice.
Why do scientists always take the brunt in Sci-Fi flicks?
all thinky
I like that.
Whoa, Sabretooth has Sawyer from Lost in it...
I'll be leaving the grid Internets soon.
Zach:
Sure, Neil Diamond wrote some
of their best stuff. "I'm a
Believer" and -- for my money,
their coolest record -- "A Little
Bit Me, A Little Bit You."
Speaking of Paul Butterfield and dating myself significantly.......
My first *unintentional* rock concert was at the Baltimore Civic Center, ah maybe back in 1967 or so. The headliner was Paul Butterfield Blues band and some other new band from England as the opening act.
Heh. The new band was Led Zeppelin and they were fucking great. Oh My God. And who had naughty dreams about Jimmy Page for months after?
Moi!
*
Or is that, Internet grids?
Clean sheets and wide open internets available for you perusal.
Jenny, as long as you were under, oh, about 15, you had a shot.
steve,
Is The Records' Odds and Ends what you're looking for?
NYMary/Lissadell | Email | Homepage | 05.28.05 - 5:09 pm | #
Kiddo, perhaps.
Whatever one has the 60s covers
that were included as a bonus
EP on the first album.
"See My Friends" by the Kinks,
something by Spirit, and I forget
the other two songs.
Oliver Stone is such a cliche doofus. What a fool, driving down Sunset Blvd. and carrying. He's like a freakin' Hollywood teenager already!
*
mena -
Me and every other girl in the place! Those Zeppelins were the wildest thing we'd ever seen. Needless to say, Butterfield never held the same allure for us after that...
At least the Iraqis haven't made any bad compromises like God did with Adam and Eve. He shoulda had one of his avenging angels slash them with his sword of holy retribution. Then we wouldn't have had all these troubles...
steve simels,
Though the bubblegum label was appropos the Monkees, they *did* perform all the vocals, right?
Some of their tunes were quite good.
And Nesmith, and Tork were familiar with guitars too, from what I hear.
Didn't Stephen Stills give the Monkee's casting call a shot? And, unbelievably, didn't Hendrix open for them on tour?
Nesmith was actually a fine songwriter. I think he wrote that one "Her Name was Joanne" and some others that were quite haunting.
I discovered him post-Monkees, though, probably because I was too old when they got started and they were never on my radar. I thought they were for the little kids!
Nesmith was actually a fine songwriter.
And, of course, his ma invented White-Out.
Zach:
All true.
And they were better musicians
than people think.
"Headquarters,"which is their
best album, they played 99 percent
of.
And "Circle Sky," which is one
of their best songs -- it's
in their movie, "Head" -- is
an actual live cut.
They kick ass. In a garage band
sort of way.
Zach Wheat -
I knew that!
*
I saw Echo & The Bunnymen in a club called 'Spit' that was in Hempstead (?) and apparently closed in two weeks
Spit was around for years, in various incarnations - they ended up doing 'nights' - dance nights, rock nights, etc.
I can remember seeing a live show there in about 1995.
Oh, and put me down as another guy who played MFP in Roslyn. Opened a show for the post-Lowell George Little Feat. Called themselves 'Chicken Legs' or something like that.
Wasn't the first recorded use of a Moog synthesizer on the Monkeee's "psychadelia" track "Daily Nightly"?
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"A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You."
I thought that was a Boyce-Hart song.
Is anyone still on this thread?
After reading all of your shit, I have to wonder, what have you done in your life that is so special ? You sound very unhappy here,maybe you should leave, maybe go to china or Mexico..
Nesmith was actually a fine songwriter.
And, of course, his ma invented White-Out.
Owned (s?) the movie production company that gave us the vastly underrated "Repo Man."
"so is Lee Greenwood replacing them?"
olexicon
-Naw, Toby Keith.
(just kidding; don't know, don't care)
Liberal airhead here, too. When's the slumber party?
Hard day of making up for gardening time missed during the rain. Not much time.
Has anyone pointed out that "... if I really say it, the radio won't play it, unless I lay it between the lines."
why is it partisan when you don't agree with the president?
So sorry, late to the party, but:
There's a Scientology place on the way to my daughter's bar (House of Brews on 46th). My niece and I plan on going and getting a beer bong, then going to fuck with the Scientologists. Any suggestions?
Any Tom Cruise "fans" must read Cintra Wilson's take on the first post-9/11 Oscars. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll pee your pants.
MTV is too busy keeping the 'Army of One' ads to worry about people making political statements.
Where is the new Elvis to join the Amry and boost recruiting goals?
Which new hood ornament for freedom can step forward?
How about Kid Rock the big Booosh supporter?
Bow down before the one you serve. You're going to get what you deserve.
Eli
Eli:
That's exactly what I think about every troll/little green turds/power whiners/freepers/ Bush supporters/war cheerleaders.
" I saw Echo & The Bunnymen in a club called 'Spit' that was in Hempstead (?) and apparently closed in two weeks"
"Dear Mr. Echo"
- Ric, "The Young Ones"
I think,in light of the new stories comming out about election fraud,we can make a strong case that the cabal planned the Day That Changed Everything.
I will never believe that the Bush White House was NOT behind 9/11.
Marcia Brady! German anti-Scientology site mentions taunting Travolta with references to this Aztec-sounding guy (name starts with "X") who is apparently the Scientologic Satan.
"They haven't made a compromise as bad as the one in 1789 that made my ancestors three-fifths of a man,'' said Rice.
Rice looks as if she's about 3/5ths man and 2/5 woman.
Is this the new meme - Iraq's parliament are "the moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers", like Reagan dubbed the sleazebag, corrupt, drug-running Nicaraguan Contras in the 80s?
Well, it looks like the Foo Fighter's will be replacing them. Should be interesting considering that when the Iraq war started, their guitarist had written on his guitar "No War", when they performed on Letterman (or some late night show, can't remember, sue me).
Maybe they'll have to drop out too, we'll see what happens.
Why did Reznor think it was a good idea to perform in front of a big picture of Bush? I don’t mean “good idea” in the sense of “important political gesture,” though we can get to that in a second. I mean “good idea” in the sense of “adds something to the song.” As near as I can tell, “The Hand That Feeds” (the latest NIN song, the one they were going to perform) has no political meaning, explicit or implicit. It’s just a typically Trent-y rant about dominance and submission. Could be about creeping fascism, could be about unrequited love, could be about dog ownership. He grabbed a cliché – biting the hand that feeds – and built himself a nice little industrial-disco-metal track. Good for him. But attaching it to George W. Bush, or attaching George W. Bush to it, seems wholly dubious. Pointless. Goading, in fact.
I don’t think Trent Reznor’s a very bright guy.
I like his music quite a bit; I think the new album is much better than The Fragile. (It’s about as good as The Fragile would have been if he’d kept just the good songs for that one, instead of putting out a bloated double disc.) But his lyrics are clichéd bullshit, overwrought and emotionally stunted at the same time. So it doesn’t surprise me that the idea of performing “The Hand That Feeds” in front of a big picture of George W. Bush seemed like a good one to him. But it isn’t a good idea. It’s a dumb idea, because I’d be willing to bet that lots of people, like me, never heard a political subtext in the song. They would have gone right on imagining the song to be apolitical until the moment Trent and the boys came out, and George flashed up there. And then they’d all have shut down their brains. Half of them would have begun mindlessly cheering this “radical” gesture, and half of them would have begun baying for Trent’s blood because of this “traitorous” gesture.
So from that moment on, you’ve got half your audience loving you for the wrong reason, and half your audience hating you for the wrong reason. And the actual song (which, again, is pretty good, if a little too indebted to The Rapture) might as well not be coming through the speakers at all. And before anybody starts telling me that polarizing the crowd that way is some kind of Stanley Milgram-esque psych-out that proves Reznor’s brilliance as a provocateur, I say bullshit. Because, again, I’ve read the guy’s lyrics. He’s a bonehead who’s a genius in the recording studio.
So the layers of dumbness at work here are:
1. Trent Reznor is dumb for a) wanting to perform a non-political song in front of a picture of the President on MTV, b) stomping away in a huff when MTV wouldn’t let him, and c) thinking this is any kind of meaningful gesture.
2. MTV is dumb for telling him not to use their airtime to make an ass of himself.
3. The lefty blogs are dumb for bitching out MTV over this.
Jeremiah Elias | Email | Homepage | 05.28.05 - 3:38 pm | #
Sorry buddy, not that I'm trying to insult you or anything but I think you and I were on two entirely different tangents subject-wise there.
I was only referring to the notion that today's fascism-mode-following evnagelical christians seem to have found an ideology whereby any kind of rejection by anyone of blind obedience towards government authority is a parallel to the story of Lucifer being kicked out of heaven for rejecting god's authority.
I wasn't touching on jesus or the politics of Judea circa 0-50AD.
MYOB'
.
Trent Reznor is dumb for a) wanting to perform a non-political song in front of a picture of the President on MTV,
Have you even read the lyrics to the song. Exactly what would make it more political exactly?
I find it odd you think dominance and submission - the very exercise of power whether with nation states or between two individuals - is apolitical.
It would be sweet if Robert Gouilet would do Nine Inch Nails cover songs:
"I want to ____ you like an animal..."
http://www.robertgoulet.com/
I've sent this to MTV at this site:
http://www.mtv.com/news/youtellus/
You let one of the most significant bands of the last 20 years, Nine Inch Nails, slip off your program because of a political statement left open to interpretation by the audience? Grow a pair. Rock is dead, and MTV killed it.
I'm disgusted. How much music from the 1960s would have been kept off the air if MTV had your kind of influence back then? It's ROCK AND ROLL! It's not supposed to make you comfortable.
Thanks to the vagaries of MTV, dreck like Britney Spears gets an actual recording contract.
Wasn't Rock dead long before MTV hit the scene?
History Made and Audio Saved — John Norris Reports From Cuba
05.09.2005
'This was about inclusion, exchange and that one thing we all get — this was about rocking.'
North American band played the hell out of Havana on Friday night, and it was an encounter that neither Audioslave nor the tens of thousands of rabid young Cubans jammed into La Tribuna Anti-Imperialista plaza and spilling out onto the seaside highway known as the Malecon — will soon forget (see "Audioslave Slay Havana With Historic Show").
Scenes of Abu Ghraib, captioned simply "Fascistas." And just behind the stage, "Venceremos!" (We will win!).
An intimidating, less than welcoming place for a U.S. rock band to play, perhaps? Not at all. Because this wasn't about winning. This wasn't about old disagreements, paranoias, rivalries, embargoes or isolation. This was about inclusion, exchange and that one thing we all get — this was about rocking. That this crowd was ready to rock was apparent from the second we arrived, as local artist X Alfonso (who a couple of hours later would himself join Audioslave onstage) had his fellow Cubanos well primed, and a chant swept like a wave across the sea of, let's say 50 to 60 thousand: "Ow-dyo-slave," "Ow-dyo-slave."
From the second the guys launched into "Set It Off," the night was off and running. And for two hours and 20 minutes — easily the band's longest show ever — they never looked back. From salsa dancing to pits breaking out down front and out in the middle to flags from all over the world — banners including "Te Queremos Chris Cornell" (We love you, Chris Cornell) — this crowd displayed the pure unadulterated kind of joy you get from finally tasting something you knew was out there, only it was always 90 miles out of reach. As Morello said, the rock-and-roll embargo had come to an end. It was all rock, all love, no hate. (OK, there was that one American flag being displayed upside down — and probably not by accident — for the entirety of the show, but there's always one in the bunch ...).
And for a passing moment, I did think of a certain dreadlocked, politically hell-bent young man named Zack de la Rocha, and what he of all people would have made of this historic trip. Well, maybe he'll make it here some day. Hopefully a lot of people will make it here. As new Audioslave song titles and lyrics like "Out of Exile" and the jamming new single "Your Time Has Come" seemed to take on special meaning on this night, all of us involved in this incredible journey were hoping that, at least culturally, this island's time really has come
Burl Ives doing Reznor Covers...
So much for the myth of freedom of expression in the modern cradle of democracy, the former United States of America.
If this country really believed in the 1st Amendment, there would have been no 'controversy'.
As things now stand, this is just the latest bit of evidence that corporate media are marching in lockstep with whoever happens to be in power.
Fuck them all.
"And so it was
Our beloved corporate gods
Claimed they created rock video
Allowing it to sink as low in one year
As commercial TV has in 25
"It's the new frontier," they say
"It's wide open, anything can happen"
But you've got a lot of nerve
To call yourself a pioneer
When you're too god-damned conservative
To take real chances..." --Dead Kennedys, from "MTV: Get Off the Air"
It's nice to see Trent is still sticking to his guns. And it's kind of disappointing to see that MTV doesn't even pretend to interested in the music. Yeah, they should call themselves the Youth Reality Network, but there was a time when they pretended to be interested in rock music.
Hey, MTV, NeXT!
Reznor may be dumb, but he still should be able to be as dumb as he wants. This non partisan stuff is bullshit, if he wanted to wear the flag and hump a stripper in red white and blue pasties, they'd let him.
It's a bullshit move and he should raise a stink. I think we should contact artists and ask them to remove thier videos from the MTV playlist. Reznor should orchestrate a strike or something. This is another sign of the Bushies using FCC clout to control content.
john
Reznor may be dumb, but he still should be able to be as dumb as he wants.
Dumb?
Compared to who? Jessica Simpson? Twitney? Toby the Nazi Redneck Keith?
Wasn't Rock dead long before MTV hit the scene?
Anthony White
That's a matter of opinion.
I can't stand Courtney Love, but saying she killed Kurt Cobain is a big much.
Cobain was fucked up LONG before she came long...he wouldn't have married the likes of her if he wasn't fucked up!
I'm sorry - a BIT much.
1. Trent Reznor is dumb for a) wanting to perform a non-political song in front of a picture of the President on MTV, b) stomping away in a huff when MTV wouldn’t let him, and c) thinking this is any kind of meaningful gesture.
2. MTV is dumb for telling him not to use their airtime to make an ass of himself.
3. The lefty blogs are dumb for bitching out MTV over this.
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Criticizing Bush is making an ass of yourself?
PUH-leese!
"They haven't made a compromise as bad as the one in 1789 that made my ancestors three-fifths of a man,'' said Rice, a black woman
KindaSleazy has remembered that she's black!
Wow!
MTV is just another wannabe vehicle of American censored propaganda. I'd like to say that doesn't happen in Canada..but it does. Just not to that extent. Bush can lick my balls, but apparently, he's too bust getting his balls licked by brainless Americans like those at MTV.
Wake up!
What did hit the Pentagon on 9/11?
http://www.spocksbeard.com/message.html
Select "Everything else" and then the topic titled as above. Fascinating, rational, scientific/mathematical analysis and discussion by people in stark disagreement with one another. Yet, they still can discuss the entire thing civily. Whoo.
I wasn't saying he WAS dumb, I Just don't know enough to judge. I'm not a big NiN fan. But...
I hope he really goes after MTV.
If your not with us, your agianst us.
This is not the behavior of a democratic people.
It is the behavior of an unfree tyrannized people.
Democracy means not being afraid to tell your leaders to fuck off
Commerce should have nothing to do with it. In a democratic culture commerce would not be afraid to tell leaders to fuck off.
Survey says America is: Tyranny with democratic rituals.
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