I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
2 in a row? no way!
Pretty cool I get a comfortable seat for once.
Now I'm glad I shaved my beard.
I was too busy reading the Red Tide closes NE Shellfish Beds story to get to the wanker section.
I guess we should relish these days of free Internets access to the Times while we can.
fourst?
some say that the big light in the sky is not the angel Urizel but in fact is a globe of burning hot gas. others disagree.
I can't stop stroking my Deadwood love patch though, but that's an entirely different thing.
curses, foiled again!
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I guess we should relish these days of free Internets access to the Times while we can.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari | Email | Homepage | 06.04.05 - 1:53 am
there's not enough relish in the world to make swallowing the Times any easier.
I disagree
it is a 1.5 volt flashlight with a huge fresnel lense in front provided by Jesus.
There is a spare bulb in the cap by the way. That's God thinking ahead, always.
cs,
continuing from below, sea kayaks are GREAT! the waves last week were small, but a month ago I rode some sweet 4 footers.
my latest toy is such a joy!
MMMmmm.. relish.......
I just read that post and wondered if it would be in wanker contention....
That's why god started the Boy Scouts. To keep us boys prepared and to stop "the gays" and what have you....
Oh, that god - what won't he think of next...
my latest toy is such a joy!
Okay, now comes the relish, and I'm hungry. I will be departing soonish, but may be back, if I find someone near the laundrette who's left the legs of their WiFi AP spread-eagled.
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There is a spare bulb in the cap by the way. That's God thinking ahead, always.
EkCenTriK
Well, except that the spare bulb is deteriorating with every year that goes by....
I guess we should relish these days of free Internets access to the Times while we can.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
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When I read the times I eat relish on my tunafish.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari,
I thought sea kayaks were long and thin. I've used a similar one to float creeks here while fishing.
Jeffraham--not feeling deprived in a certain sense now, are we?
my latest toy is such a joy!
You realize that without the benefit of recognizing a link in that sentence... well... ahem... I... it's just that... it's a little...
if I find someone near the laundrette who's left the legs of their WiFi AP spread-eagled.
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Jeffraham Prestonian
JP - I spent two weeks at my aunt's recently and bootlegged off unsecured wifi in her building the whole time.....
impeaches bush
I can't stop stroking my Deadwood love patch though, but that's an entirely different thing.
Central Scrutinizer
It would seem that some factions in the camp, having cast aspersions on the sartorial style you seem to espouse, have put forward a motion that you represent a certain disruptive modernist influence designed to annex us to the Montana territory..
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Jeez, Miller and Friedman both sucking out loud, and some wingnut taking over my blog and channeling Friedman... life is a dreary pit full of dreary despair and dreariness, and despair.
JP, go to flory's aunt's place. Wait... huh?
my latest toy is such a joy!
You realize that without the benefit of recognizing a link in that sentence... well... ahem... I... it's just that... it's a little...
Ripley
NO.
All such conversations are banished to the previous threads.
This is a family thread...
or somethin'....
Heck Flory, we can always run down to the RadShack and get a replacement bulb, batteries too. They warranty them with no cost on replacements until the Rapture. Anything after that is pay as you go. But by then, you probably will have bought a newer model anyway.
That's why god started the Boy Scouts. To keep us boys prepared and to stop "the gays" and what have you....
I call bullshit!
Sorry, I read Miller's column and I didn't find him wankerous so much as I found him to be naive. I think that Armando from Daily Kos accurately pointed out what was missing from what Miller was saying. The media is culpable. But I believe that Miller was trying to write an honest column. Real political dialogue in America is DOA.
JP, go to flory's aunt's place. Wait... huh?
Ripley
Tennessee...Oregon....
Maybe not.
....having cast aspersions on the sartorial style you seem to espouse, have put forward a motion that you represent a certain disruptive modernist influence designed to annex us to the Montana territory..
Al?
Heck Flory, we can always run down to the RadShack and get a replacement bulb, batteries too.
Yeah, buts its a really old model. Do they even carry the replacement bulbs anymore?
Ah yes, Matt Miller. How could you forget Matt? Good thing you remembered.
But Another Bruce does make a good point.
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the ripper is an 8 foot, 40 lb thing of beauty, designed to ride in, on, and down waves. too much fun.
re: Miller.
But the embarrassing truth is that we earnest chin-strokers often get it wrong anyway. Take me. I hadn't thought much about Iraq before I read Ken Pollack's book, "The Threatening Storm: The Case for Invading Iraq," a platonic ideal of careful analysis meant to persuade. It worked. I was persuaded! So what should we conclude when a talent like Pollack can convince us - and then the whole thing turns out to be based on a premise (W.M.D.) that is false?
conclusion: Pollack is a hawkish ideologue conning you into buying conventional wisdom gussied up with lipstick. his "persuasion" is designed specifically to fool the suckers, the simpleminded and the chin-strokers. guess he reeled you in, fool!
Don't despair, Thers. There's always yesterday. and the day before....
Don't give up hope when you can always look backward on the promises of your Life that were told to you by dubiously well-meaning adults, whose specious accounts of your potential brought not only the promise of a bright future, but the sad reality that you weren't there yet.
And now that we haven't arrived, isn't it a great time to sit back and plan the misery that the bitchy mistress of time will surely flail upon our backs when we suddenly come to and realize that MTV lied to us and Hammer Time is just a song?
I call bullshit!
Central Scrutinizer
Holy Merit Badge, Batman!!
The boyscouts have changed since I was a kid.
the ripper is an 8 foot, 40 lb thing of beauty, designed to ride in, on, and down waves. too much fun.
the misses wanted a ripper, but we couldn't fit it under the bed...
honey, if you happen to read this, I'm just kidding.....
we'll find a place for it
flory
They may even have an old tube tester on premises somewhere in case you reality reception is fuzzy.
I am sure they can dig up a bulb though it may be a catalog order. However, St. Peter has been known to pull off a few miracles of his own at counter sales by calling around locally and checking stock.
While you are there ask for Gabriel, I understand he is the resident expert on the Clarion sound systems. He might cut you a good deal.
guess he reeled you in, fool!
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Conclusion II:
You bought the first argument you heard and didn't bother looking for the opposing viewpoint - or even if you heard it, you closed off your mind.
the misses wanted a ripper....
Mine did too.
I'm single now....
Atrios, being the benevolent thread-providing entity that he is, is like a demigod to me. However, I'm not so sure that an article implying that Coulter is beyond the pale of reasonable discourse truly makes the author worthy of the coveted "wanker" award.
I vote for "wouldn't it be great if we could all work 35 hour days like those noble Indians" FriedMan.
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I dunno Ek - its such a long haul to get out there...
Maybe I could check those internets, see if they have anything available...
That BayE place maybe?
I'm a little naive - why does Matt Miller stroke his chin when he reads Ken Pollack's book?
Cameron--that's not his chin he's stroking.
Flory
You are wimping out, you gonna do a service call I can tell. Minimum 75 bucks an hour and they will probably haul it back to the shop.
I'm a little naive - why does Matt Miller stroke his chin when he reads Ken Pollack's book?
Cause his mommy told him not to stroke anything further south?
Goodnight Moonbats, I've got to get up in a few hours.
I love you all.
Al?
Central Scrutinizer
OT already, I derived much satisfaction from the season finale. Take that, Cy!
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I'm a little naive - why does Matt Miller stroke his chin when he reads Ken Pollack's book?
public masturbation is frowned upon at his place of employment?
I vote for "wouldn't it be great if we could all work 35 hour days like those noble Indians" FriedMan.
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Fielding Mellish
As if that fucker ever did an honest day's work in his worthless life.
Sallyh: Jeffraham--not feeling deprived in a certain sense now, are we?
Let me count the ways...! 
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Minimum 75 bucks an hour and they will probably haul it back to the shop.
No!!
Can't have it hauled off to the shop! There's no replacements available!
OK, fine...I'll run out to RadioShack...but it means taking half a day off work...
*grumble* *mumble*
When I finally won the race to the bottom, Thomas Friedman was there to greet me at the finish line...
I guess we should relish these days of free Internets access to the Times while we can.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
Dear patron, it has come to our attention that you viewed portions of our Op-Ed page. In light of the illumination you've undoubtedly received, we've taken the liberty of using our cookie to find your credit card number and have charged you 50 bucks. Love, Dan Okrent's pals.
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And now that we haven't arrived, isn't it a great time to sit back and plan the misery that the bitchy mistress of time will surely flail upon our backs when we suddenly come to and realize that MTV lied to us and Hammer Time is just a song?
Sniff... I'll miss you, man, when you disappear behind the NY Times paywall...
why does Matt Miller stroke his chin when he reads Ken Pollack's book?
Drool?
Cuz there's a Penthouse Forum inside the book jacket?
It's a Tantric thing, you wouldn't understand?
And.... I'm spent
it's cool and all, but sometimes it seems like this is the NY Times Op/Ed complaint department.
just saying...
Sniff... I'll miss you, man, when you disappear behind the NY Times paywall...
Thersites
Is anyone running a book on how many page views the NYT loses once they build the Maginot Line?
Lay-tar, tay-tars! Back in a few, or back tomorrow around 8:30 p.m. CDT. We shall see.
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Sirius Listeners.
I just found out that Sirius is losing Air America to XM. That sucks because it's the only reason I bought the freakin gizmo!
Anyway, there is a poll up on AAR's replacement.
If you're a Sirius member pleas support Sirius replacing AAR with another progressive outlet.
http://www.siriusbackstage.com/f...pic.php?
t=23056
bye JP - good luck with the laundry...and the free wifi
Sniff... I'll miss you, man, when you disappear behind the NY Times paywall...
All in all it's just another prick in the wall.
In case you forgot what a prick Ben Stein really is...
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_art...asp?
art_id=8242
Pretty funny, when you think about it. Nixon was a "peacemaker" dropping bombs on Cambodian civilians illegally... He "opened relations with China..." Isn't it great how China no longer harvests organs from political dissidents or uses child labor? Oh, wait...
Nixon "saved Eretz Israel..." He "ended the war in the Mideast." I didn't even know it was over! Of course, Nixon's love for the Jews is legendary, as is shown in some excerpts from White House tapes:
26 May 1971 President Richard Nixon observes: "You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob? What is the matter with them? I suppose it is because most of them are psychiatrists."
13 Sep 1971 President Richard Nixon tells Bob Haldeman: "Now here's the point, Bob. Please get the names of the Jews. You know, the big Jewish contributors to the Democrats. Could you please investigate some of the cocksuckers? That's all."
14 Sep 1971 President Richard Nixon resumes the previous day's conversation with Bob Haldeman:
NIXON: What about the rich Jews? The IRS is full of Jews, Bob.
HALDEMAN: What we ought to do is get a zealot who dislikes those people.
NIXON: Go after them like a son of a bitch.
Ooooooooo, he wasn't a "seducer" like that evil Bill Clinton! (What is this problem Republicans have with sex?) Ben even says Nixon wasn't a "drug addict" like JFK. I don't know about that, seems to me alcohol is a drug, too.
Ben says Nixon never would have let the Khmer Rouge genocide happen. Well, it happened on the watch of his handpicked successor, Gerald Ford. Why doesn't Ben call up Jerry and give him hell for letting it happen? And who actually did do something about it? The Vietnamese communists, the ones that kicked Nixon's ass.
Oh, and get this... "Nixon proved Alger Hiss was a traitor." Hiss was never convicted of espionage. His character witnesses included two Presidential candidates and a Supreme Court justice (all Democrats, though). He won readmission to the bar because he was able to prove the FBI acted improperly in the case. (Nixon tried to resign from the New York bar after Watergate; they wouldn't let him unless he acknowledged his wrongdoing -- he was instead disbarred and never readmitted.) John Dean even says he heard Nixon say that forged evidence was used in the Hiss case.
The Hiss business is all about tarring Roosevelt. Hiss assisted Roosevelt at Yalta, and we heard Bush badmouthing that agreement last month. The facists are out for Roosevelt's legacy; that's what they are trying to prove a Social Security "crisis." Remember when Reagan died, all of a sudden they wanted to replace Roosevelt's image on the dime with Reagan's.
N.B.: Man, he just can't let go!
...Mark Felt's family and Mark Felt put out their story solely to make money off it.
uh, didn't he do a show called "Ben Stein's Money" or something? Now he's against making money? What kind of sick self-hating Jew is Ben Stein anyway?
...it's been reported that Mark Felt is at least part Jewish. The reason this is worse is that at the same time that Mark Felt was betraying Richard Nixon, Nixon was saving Eretz Israel. [WTF?] It is a terrifying chapter in betrayal and ingratitude. If he even knows what shame is, I wonder if he felt a moment's shame as he tortured the man who brought security and salvation to the land of so many of his and my fellow Jews. [WTF?] Somehow, as I look at his demented face, I doubt it. [Oooooooo, an ad hominem argument. It's always nice to make fun of the appearance of stroke victims.]
Finally:
...there is a lot of debate about whether or not Mark Felt was a hero. Obviously, I don't think so. ...there are major heroes out there every day. There are 140,000 of them in Iraq...
Let's find out how many of Ben's family members are fighting in Iraq!
WaPO wankers are looking better every day. Colbert King has a great anti-hagiography piece today:
When Felt was the No. 2 official in the FBI, he and Edward S. Miller, chief of the bureau's intelligence division, authorized burglaries at the homes of friends and relatives of members of the radical Weather Underground. The break-ins were illegal and a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
Is anyone running a book on how many page views the NYT loses once they build the Maginot Line?
All part of BushCo's plan. See, when you can't read it on the internets, you're forced to buy the print edition. And when Karl Rove says, "stop the whale hugging, Dukakis kissing, moon maiden presses!", the presses stop, giving BushCo ample time to "massage the story" (that's journalism talk) and keep defending America from the outposts of terrany.. tryanists... umm... liberals...
Is anyone running a book on how many page views the NYT loses once they build the Maginot Line?
I predict they will be hacked in minutes by the millions upon millions of fanatic column readers dying to learn just what exactly some random janitor in Indonesia told Tom Friedman about cell phones.
It's harder to concentrate on progressive blogging when you've been out having whiskey sours and beer all night.
Just sayin'
night all, off to SlumberLand. peace now, for one and all.
Gotta wonder if the pay-for-opinion deal is just a way for the Times to say, "Gee, Skippy - seems like people don't really care enough to pay for what you say. We're cutting your salary as of Monday.".
Oh yeah, I'm that cynical....
Ripley - there's a hole somewhere in your theory....but...I can't..find.. it....
Or maybe Thers is right....
Nim:
It's harder to concentrate on progressive blogging when you've been out having whiskey sours and beer all night.
Or you've discovered the secret to progressive blogging....
millions upon millions of fanatic column readers dying to learn just what exactly some random janitor in Indonesia told Tom Friedman about cell phones.
And for the millionth time, the NYT should cut to the chase, employ the random janitor for 1/10th the salary and throw Tommy's worthless ass out into the streets.
Which theory? Damn, when will I stop positing hypothoses whilst drinking???
Wow, say that three times fast...
Sounds to me like they actually entrapped a ton of people. No telling how many got trailed enough to put hits on them. Corporate pigs...doesn't it make you feel better?
I happily pay for Salon...although it has been alleged that I gave my username and password to some friends
If something is worth reading, it's worth paying something for it.
If the Times think they need an excuse to fire the asshats, I'm all for using an a la carte system for the op/ed columns.
Stop depositing hippopattamuses while thinking.
Is anyone running a book on how many page views the NYT loses once they build the Maginot Line?
flory
How about a line on how many weeks before they yelp "holy crap" and start reducing the price to.. I'm guessing here.. $2.95 a month?
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matthew, my friend alleged that he provided me his Sirius internet password. But I haven't been able to prove him wrong.
Where, oh where is an activist judge when we need one???
This is priceless. I found it over at Brad Delong's:
Tom Burka is a national treasure:
Opinions You Should Have - June 2005 Archives: Republicans today criticized Paul Revere for his famous ride, saying that he had violated professional colonial ethics by divulging military secrets in violation of his duty to his lord, the King of England. 'These were sensitive informations about military troop movements with which he had been entrusted,' said G. Gordon Liddy, an expert on ethics in government and a professor at several unaccredited law schools.
'Paul Revere was a traitor and a law breaker,' said Anakin Skywalker in a confidential interview shortly before his limbs were lopped off and he burst into flame.
Conservatives all over America pointed out that Revere also endangered people's lives by riding willy nilly all over Massachusetts at a full gallop in the dark of night. 'He could have trampled someone,' said Bill O'Reilly. 'Paul Revere was a reckless and irresponsible nazi,' he added.
Pat Buchanan derided Revere as a 'coward' and a 'snake' who was unwilling to be direct with the British government regarding his complaints about the monarchy. 'There were channels,' he said.
Peggy Noonan shook her head. 'There's nothing sadder than Americans who have no respect for the rule of law,' she said.
"Damn, when will I stop positing hypothoses whilst drinking???"
That's usually when statisticians posit theirs.
I know it's almost 2:30 in the morning here in Philadelphia, but I thought it was important that all Eschatonians still on board heard the latest patriotic declaration from Reuters: Rummie has formally declared that Al-Jazeera is helping the Iraqi insurgency (oh, yeah, and a coupla US soldier-type guys got blowed up in Afghanistan, but that's not GOOD NEWS, so it doesn't count).
I'm all for using an a la carte system for the op/ed columns.
matthew
How lovely would it be to see numbnuts Tierney and FriedMan skewered by the free enterprise system they beat the drums for?
"Gee Tom, I'd love to see your breathless insights on how some gal in Pakistan manages to escape fatal beatings by taking in laundry, but I'll just go to freeperville and get the same kind of incoherent dribble for free."
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"Stop depositing hippopattamuses while thinking."
All these years, and now i find out this is what I've been doing!
Ripley:
Which theory? Damn, when will I stop positing hypothoses whilst drinking???
Witholding comment on the alcohol aspects - I was referring to your theory of oppression of the printed word.
I may have lost the security deposit on those hypothalamus, Bruce. Which is gonna suck when the lease is up cuz I was really counting on that money to float me to the next hypotenuse.
by the way, pucker up Frist.
Any coins or Abramoff visits to disclose?
How about your IT infosharing of medical records to help companies cut losses on coverage by screening out high risks?
Wonder how much you bro got paid to do the feasability and assessment studies with our tax dollars?
maybe Mr.Moore's next movie will tell, in the meantime folks who worketh those fields... let her who has ears and understanding hear and record.
meanwhile the campaign to put Reagan on the dime was a big part of the ohio investment scheme. Too bad American hating liberals didn't agree to put Ronnie's face on it instead.
Good news: they're bringing back the halfpence to honor's Bush's contribution to America. All his days in 'service', all of his community service, all those contributions to and from Enron, chemical and oil/gas companies, all of his bold vision for Constitutional loopholes to the rights of citizens, treaties we've signed, election law.
The grand total value to the average american can be summed in a half pence. That isn't per capita. And that is being generous. Math so fuzzy you call bigfoot 'peach' in comparison.
How about a line on how many weeks before they yelp "holy crap" and start reducing the price to.. I'm guessing here.. $2.95 a month?
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Fielding Mellish
I think you're right.
So how about a line on how much the price is reduced before they even start?
I can't wait to see the Bush supporting wingnut Bubbas losing their homes and starving or getting governmental handouts of food. That's some of the positives of the effects of Peak Oil.
Al-Jazeera is helping the Iraqi insurgency
Damn liberal media!
Certainly true, flory. It's hard to believe that a corp like NYT wouldn't take all the publicity it can get. And why not put real, actual news on pay-per-view? Op-ed only? That's strange... outside influence? hmmm
Unless sponsors are backing off the op-ed pages. I don't look at NYT online, so I don't know if they have ads on those pages... ???
So how about a line on how much the price is reduced before they even start?
A thousand quatloos says they're going to start offering people free iPods if they agree to read Friedman for a year, and that as a result of this offer the NYT will be out $750.
Several valuable insights I've had tonight after about 15 drinks:
a) Peggy Noonan is in fact an egregious hellbeast trollop
b) My chocolate lab is a mongoloid
c) cab drivers have the best stories
Behold the power of my irrefutable hippopotamus!
Whoops, you said hypothesis. Never mind. 
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I'm a fat pig.
meanwhile the campaign to put Reagan on the dime was a big part of the ohio investment scheme.
Please confirm that this is true, I want to die laughing for a valid reason.
I have rrrread weeth eenterrrest thees Matt Meelerrrr who you say ees "waanking..." *(spanish kitty scare quote claw scrunching)
I can take out hees Acheelees tendon eef you like.
He won't feel a theeng, just zrrrrrrrrp! and he'll fall like a yooung mouze.
Thers, I believe that will include S&H.
Ripley's hypotheses are giving me hypothermia, and that's not hyperbole.
Mellish--hypothesis, hippopotamus, after 15 drinks, what's the difference?
Herpantaloons?
Thers, I believe that will include S&H.
Yeah, and one will be sent back with an angry note saying "Dude, you said this would play the Doors, man..."
And if some wing tries to lay his hands on mah peaches, I'll blow his fucking head off.
Those WMD's have been found in the form of...Nipples!
(No, I am not making this up. It might make sense if you're drunk though)
Nipple Negating Technologies Wage War on the Female Breast
A thousand quatloos says they're going to start offering people free iPods if they agree to read Friedman for a year, and that as a result of this offer the NYT will be out $750.
Thersites
Sucker bet.
meanwhile the campaign to put Reagan on the dime was a big part of the ohio investment scheme.
You could probably put him on a nacho, now he's become a dip of some sort.
In the future, stealing somone's food is attempted murder on you and you'll be within your rights to blow a wingnut's head off. You know the wingnuts are too stoopid to plan for the possible effects of Peak Oil if it's true. At this point, we should proceed as if it is.
sallyh:
The money quote:
Mr. Grizzle says current anti-nipple sentiments are steeped in the same notions that cause some religions to keep women covered up and out of holy places because a woman's "sexuality disrupts everything that men try to accomplish."
Saudi Arabia, here we come....
Mellish--hypothesis, hippopotamus, after 15 drinks, what's the difference?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Ya know, hippos kill about 50 people a year. Gives me an idea for a new SciFi flick - "Curse of The Hippo" - it could have a 40-foot long wicker hippo powered by guys in loinclothes.
Of course, the hypothesis that Iraqis take to McDonalds-style democracy like ducks to water seems to kill about 20,000 people a year, so it is much deadlier than even a radioactive wicker hippo shooting death rays out of its eyes.
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I think I'm going to write a book, Eating Gourmet During The Starving Time.
Sallyh,
This is fascinating - the anatomically correct way to show the world the female body is...without nipples? I'm not sure what lesson this is designed to teach, or to whom. It sounds a bit unhealthy to have people given the impression that breasts are merely strange fleshy appendages of uncertain utility.
Yeah, and one will be sent back with an angry note saying "Dude, you said this would play the Doors, man..."
"Dear angry consumer,
We apologize for the miscommunication; our advertising layout was set up in India, where our employees regularly work up to 35 hours a day. The ad should have stated, the l-pod will even play out of doors.
We regret the inconvenience we may have caused. More regretfully, we cannot accept your returned product, as it now contains mp3 files of songs that make baby Jeebus cry and might harm our relationship with the Bush administration. Please take your Frenchy "world music" whale peace songs back and never visit our website again. We have submitted your IP address to DHS and another shadow organization that we are not at liberty to dis...errr... goodbye."
"Those WMD's have been found in the form of...Nipples!
Jeyzoos Sangre de Christo!
Myeeeoo leettle friends, they have multeeple weapon deleeverrry syztems.
mmmmmmmmmpppppprrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrr rrrrr rrrrr rrrr rrrrr rrrrr
Flory--ROFLMAO at that one.
Incog--your book could become a bestseller. Seriously.
Ya know, hippos kill about 50 people a year. Gives me an idea for a new SciFi flick - "Curse of The Hippo" - it could have a 40-foot long wicker hippo powered by guys in loinclothes.
If you're ever on safari, never get between a hippo and water. Or at your local Lubys, never get between Gordo and the all you can eat buffet.
Nipple Negating Technologies Wage War on the Female Breast
Where the sun now sets, I will negate no nipples forever. (Well for male ones, which are kind of frivolous)
Fielding Mellish--I was really looking for killer hagfish Scifi treatment prior to this, but if you could work up a treatment of killer hippos, I could seriously watch that.
Caveat: all cast members must die and the hippos take over the world at the end.
Best enjoyed with liberal quantities of beer of one's choosing.
Incog,
On your earlier posts, you indicated that you had loads of figs coming in (and peaches, too, though you didn't say how many). Making all of them into preserves - even though it's plenty value added - sounds like a lot of work to do at one time. Have you thought about drying them? They could always be made into preserves later.
Where the sun now sets, I will negate no nipples forever.
Atriots are such a poetic bunch.
*sniff*
El Gato Negro--where've you been all these years? 'Bout time you showed up!
Or at your local Lubys, never get between Gordo and the all you can eat buffet.
ÔżÔ
OMG! The best Mordo the Gagnificent putdown ever! I'm not worthy! (genuflecting)
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Er, "except for" can I blame Haloscan for losing a single word in a post?
'women's sexuality disturbs everything men set out to accomplish...'
How does that explain the desire of men to accomplish getting laid?
I'm so confused!
Have you thought about drying them? They could always be made into preserves later.
Cameron
You mean like buying one of those food drying machines? I've thought about it. I'll research how much vitamins and minerals are lost in the process. I know it's labor intensive and probably cheaper to buy preserves at the supermarket, but there is also the issue of perservatives.
Figs? At the local market (non-chain) figs are around $13/dozen. What's with figs???
I can't afford figs OR a date lately.
Oy... have I stooped that low? Oh yes, I have...
Another Bruce--we blame Haloscan for everything from weight gain to lack of catblogging to world hunger and poverty and the omnipresence of the inmates running the asylum...surely it can be blamed for losing a few words.
Ripley--don't feel bad. No one can afford dates anymore.
Incog,
I think that's an advantage that you have harvesting your own - if you dehydrate them yourself, you don't necessarily have to use any preservatives - that's another thing that adds value over store-bought stuff.
HaloScan is Deep Throat, as well. And very possibly unAmerican. Waiting for PowerLine to set the record straight on that one....
'women's sexuality disturbs everything men set out to accomplish...
That's a good thing! Men often set out to accomplish evil bullshit. The more men set out to accomplish evil, the more they are disturbed by women's sexuality, and men's sexuality for that matter.
Incog,
I think that's an advantage that you have harvesting your own - if you dehydrate them yourself, you don't necessarily have to use any preservatives - that's another thing that adds value over store-bought stuff.
Cameron
The twin's partner is friends with another woman who runs the health food store. I could make trail mix or something and sell to them. I don't know all the details to work out yet but I will.
Bruce, that exchange made me think of the relationship between the Emperor and his sister in "Gladiator".
Food is still dirt cheap and you can't compete with corporate agri-business in costs.
"women's sexuality disturbs everything men set out to accomplish." Excuse me, but WTF? That sounds like descriptions of medieval witchcraft, only mega-times more potent.
we blame Haloscan for everything from weight gain to lack of catblogging to world hunger and poverty and the omnipresence of the inmates running the asylum.
Haloscan!
I love you. Thank you for all that I think you do!
Cameron, Bruce--we sincerely hope we're disturbing everything you guys set out to do--it's our mission in life!
It's midnight on the left coast, and as I'm not a night owl, must leave you all to contemplate hippos and nipples. Say that three times fast!
Cameron, I think he meant that as "men are uncomfortable with women's sexuality and feel threatened". Not that women's sexuality is an impediment to anything.
If I may, Bruce...
"We have submitted your IP address to DHS and another shadow organization that we are not at liberty to dis...errr... goodbye."
P.S. If you are still willing to read Mr. Friedman voluntarily, we will be happy to send you another iPod with actual Doors songs on it. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
P.P.S. Do not make us beg, as we are the New York Times and our dignity is important to us.
Incog,
I agree with you about the ability of agri-business to undersell, but there are niche markets. For example, here in PA I'm involved with a community supported agriculture group and I'd be really surprised if you didn't have one in your area. Try a Google on community supported agriculture (CSA); I think you could find some good connections.
I could also grow peanuts in my garden for the trail mix and we have tons of pecans. We grew them when I was a kid.
The bastards! They digitally removed Teri Hatcher's nipples?
"I was not angry since I came to France.."
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Incog, you're absolutely right - the greater impact of petroleum failure will be food supplies.
Oh, and plastic - but no one ever thinks about that.
Bruce, that exchange made me think of the relationship between the Emperor and his sister in "Gladiator".
((Shuffles feet, embarrassed))
I haven't seen Gladiator.
But I have seen every movie Jarmusch has made, does that help?
P.P.S. Do not make us beg, as we are the New York Times and our dignity is important to us.
P.P.S.S. Seriously, give us a chance. It's not like we have the Korean Savior paying for things here and we're getting hot scoops from McClellan. For Christ's sake, we have children! Read the damned Friedman column! We don't ask for much... let the boy walk your dog....
It's a pretty good movie, Bruce. There's a weird love/sexual thing between Joaquin Phoenix and his sister, i.e. he wants her and she doesn't want him. It's creepy but a major part of the plot.
Cameron, Bruce--we sincerely hope we're disturbing everything you guys set out to do--it's our mission in life!
You are indeed disturbing Sally in a good way, good night.
Any of you staunch few who remain Split Enz fans? I'm listening to the "Best of.." album.
I wonder what the trolls listen to. My guess is country for simple minded values and death metal.
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The bastards! They digitally removed Teri Hatcher's nipples?
They should air-brush the nipples off. I'm sick of you heteros flaunting your hetersexuality in our faces and shoving it down our throats.
It's a pretty good movie, Bruce
That's what I hear, I'll rent it. I've had some pretty good recommendations for movies and music (and politics and recipes and life in general) from this board. Thanks, Ripley.
They should air-brush the nipples off. I'm sick of you heteros flaunting your hetersexuality in our faces and shoving it down our throats.
ÔżÔ
Who said nipples are just for heterosexuals?
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I'm now convinced there's a subset of Atriots who are vampires. Or night owls. Or maybe night blooming jasmine.
But we humans must sleep.
Night all.
They used to play some Split Enz videos quite a bit when MTV first started. The Finns are good composers.
I'm sick of you heteros flaunting your hetersexuality in our faces and shoving it down our throats.
I'm on your side, Incog, but change that to "homos" and that's Exactly what the Uptight Right is saying about gay Americans.
Don't bitch at the choir, brother.
They used to play some Split Enz videos quite a bit when MTV first started. The Finns are good composers.
Ripley
And great harmonizers. Never was into the whole People Magazine cult of musical rumours, but I did hear that the Finn brothers had significant artistic differences. I wish I could still see that sort of thing on MTV. I guess if you watch MTV3 between 4 and 5 AM on odd Thursdays, otherwise it's all MTV Cribs. Yuck. That's why I shelled out for the "History Never Repeats" video some years ago.
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Namestealing troll shriveled up and disappeared at the thought that gay men could find nipples erotic. Heh.
Night, batties! May sweet nipple-laced dreams be yours!
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I don't believe that anyone in many parts of Kansas, people in Muleshoe or Marshall, Texas, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Roseburg, Oregon, Cranston, Rhode Island, Enid, Oklahoma, etc etc reads the NYT. The WaPo. I really don't.
So, someone tell me why we believe these papers make any diff?
They don't, if their words are unheard. (Unread).
SD
Look out, fellas. They're trying to Barbie-ize tits, Ken-izing you is next.
I'm just plain getting too old to drive home for an hour and a half from a gig at three in the morning.
On the happy side, didn't hit a single possum or deer.
meanwhile the campaign to put Reagan on the dime was a big part of the ohio investment scheme.
You could probably put him on a nacho, now he's become a dip of some sort.
Thersites
Reading down through, this made me smile.
I'm just plain getting too old to drive home for an hour and a half from a gig at three in the morning.
Sharkbabe, not for many years have I been in that situation. Had to give up that kind of work when I developed an allergy to tobacco smoke.
Sharkbabe---that's why I gave up road work (comedy)but I still have the vampire schedule. Lucky for me though the casino is less than a mile from my house!
BTW I had to scrap frozen hail of my windshield this am!!!
ohyeahfuckbush
On the happy side, didn't hit a single possum or deer.
Sharkbabe |
Good news, dear. You're home and safe. That's all that counts.
I'm now convinced there's a subset of Atriots who are vampires. Or night owls. Or maybe night blooming jasmine.
Maybee they arrrre jzust nocturrrrnal...
Mme La Poissonierrrre, eet takes time to fly een from La Madre Espagna, keeetties fly verrrrrrry slow.
What Keeety, Spaneeesh or otherrrrweeese, does not love La Poissoneirrrrre?
you know, incog, I wonder what vitamin/mineral content of figs etc matters when the dirt is poisoned.
Not to be completely cynical and defeatist (which I probably am), but, jeebus, nothing is safe, wholesome, healthful any more.
Someone name me a safe place in the US these days, w/respect to water, soil, air.
Please.
Or maybe night blooming jasmine.
I'm night wilting insomniac. After reading some of Jean Shepherd's "Night People" stuff, tried to convince myself I could turn it to my advantage but it didn't work.
okay, persona non grata/ignorata retires.
Sweet dreams to all.
Oh, this is rich:
A U.S. military investigation into the mishandling of the Muslim holy book at the Guantanamo Bay prison for suspected terrorists has determined that detainees -- not U.S. soldiers -- attempted to flush the Quran down the toilet there...
The Hood report cited three separate incidents in which detainees tried to flush the Quran down the toilet.
In one incident, on February 23, 2004, the report said a guard saw a "detainee place two Qurans in his toilet and state he no longer cared about the Quran or his religion.
Five minutes later, after the detainee retrieved the Qurans, he ripped several pages out of one Quran and threw the pages on the floor. Then, he placed both Qurans on the sink."
Another time, on January 19, 2005, a detainee "tore up his Quran and tried to flush it down the toilet. Four guards witnessed the incident," the report said.
The report also cited 12 other incidents by detainees, including one who used his Quran as a pillow, another who urinated on his holy book and several who ripped pages from the Quran.
Normally, I'd say this is such a pathetically transparent attempt to "blame the victim" that it was laughable, if I didn't know an army of moronic brownshirt fucks are lining up to dutifully recite each and every one of these obvious fucking lies...
Okay, okay, I'll say it, Fuck Bush.
Normally, I'd say this is such a pathetically transparent attempt to "blame the victim" that it was laughable, if I didn't know an army of moronic brownshirt fucks are lining up to dutifully recite each and every one of these obvious fucking lies...
I keep you in solitary for a month with no light and no human contact.
I make you slightly crazy.
Then I put a gun to your head and say "now desecrate that Koran or I'll kill you. BTW. We know we're your family back home lives. Do it or we shoot them."
What I also find amusing is this.
OK.
First some prisoners flushed a Koran:
Hood also said his investigation found 15 cases of detainees mishandling their own Qurans. "These included using a Quran as a pillow, ripping pages out of the Quran, attempting to flush a Quran down the toilet and urinating on the Quran," Hood's report said. It offered no possible explanation for the detainees' motives.
Then (in the passive voice):
Hood said last week he found no credible evidence that a Quran was ever flushed down a toilet.
If you're using the passive voice, then it includes the prisoners as well as the guards but come on. As we know from reading the right wing of the blogosphere, you can't flush a Koran.
Or can only prisoners do it? It's so confusing.
The upshot is that they came out and admitted Newsweek was right. They did use desecration of the Koran as a way to break prisoners. And for that Scott McLellan should resign.
this helped me
http://www.otaku-house.com/films...s/
decdnload.htm
SWR, and those new pictures of prisoner abuse are coming out, probably.
Thank you George W. Bush. Just what we needed giving 1/5th of the world reasons to hate us even more.
I'm feeling ever more secure.
Scott McLellan should be in the dock along with the rest of them at an international warcrimes tribunal.
a greed
And for that Scott McLellan should resign. - SWR
Madrrrrrrrree dee Deeeos!
McLellans' carrrrreeeeeerrre smells like myeew leeterrrbox afterrrr the Pateeo festeeeval.
*[dignified snort]
*[licks paw, looks around]
Here I was thinking that I should try to go back to sleep when it came to me, haven't been over to Tbogg's lately. This made me happy I went:
Thursday, June 02, 2005
We're all fortunate sons now
Losing the war at home:
Two years into the war in Iraq, as the Army and Marines struggle to refill their ranks, parents have become boulders of opposition that recruiters cannot move.
Mothers and fathers around the country said they were terrified that their children would have to be killed - or kill - in a war that many see as unnecessary and without end.
Around the dinner table, many parents said, they are discouraging their children from serving.
At schools, they are insisting that recruiters be kept away, incensed at the access that they have to adolescents easily dazzled by incentive packages and flashy equipment.
A Department of Defense survey last November, the latest, shows that only 25 percent of parents would recommend military service to their children, down from 42 percent in August 2003.
"Parents," said one recruiter in Ohio who insisted on anonymity because the Army ordered all recruiters not to talk to reporters, "are the biggest hurdle we face."
Legally, there is little a parent can do to prevent a child over 18 from enlisting. But in interviews, recruiters said that it was very hard to sign up a young man or woman over the strong objections of a parent.
We've already addressed this in a specific way earlier today but I really want to help out the recruiters because it's through no fault of their own that they've been dealt such a shitty hand by the Administration. So here you go recruiter guys. You can thank me later.
1. Hang out in shopping center parking lots and walk up and talk to anyone who has a W2004 sticker on their car. Ask to see pictures of their kids.
2. College campuses: Don't bother with setting up a table and hoping students will stop to chat. Instead find out when the Young Americans for Freedom are meeting and show up. Advertise here. These guys look healthy and ready to go.
3. Contact these guys. If their kids are too old, ask about their grandkids then invite yourself to dinner.
4. Try him
and him
and especially him
5. These guys have a pretty comprehensive mailing list. Buy it. Don't waste your time on this guy, but if you do: don't ask.
6. And since you're going to keep women active....these girls? Unemployed.
posted by tbogg at 8:56 PM
Don't know if the links will come through but they are worth following up. Go look if you want a smile.
There, stayed up all night. Now I've got to go to work. Luckily I don't have to use power equipment of a pen knife this morning.
I wish you a no namestealer day.
My g-d, 170 comments on a June 4 post, and it it's not even 6 a. m . EDT!
Too bad Atrios is so early naming the Wanker of the Day today--I would have nominated Republican gubernatorial candidate Bret Schundler:
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/
20..._god_im_no.html
So many wankers--so little time!
Highya, Moonbats.
And I give a nod to Iranian prince Pahlevi, who:"joined his voice to other Iranian dissidents inside and outside Iran to urge Iranians not to participate in the coming presidential elections and do not give popular legitimacy a “discredited regime”.'
See: http://www.iran-press-service.co...lavi-
3605.shtml
There you go, fellas, let's get with the Plan.
"In his (Pahlevi's) view, more than 65 per cent of the voters would abstain from going to the polls, a percentage confirmed by several opinion surveys, some of them realised by the government, including the Interior and the Intelligence ministries."
Then when the latest mass murderer shows up at the helm, you can realistically claim you didn't vote him in.
sez froomkin:
Getting personal, Bush also talked about how he cries easily.
Getting personal, Bush also talked about how he cries easily. And the president who said on Tuesday, "I don't worry about anything here in Washington, D.C.," acknowledged on Wednesday that, in his quiet moments, he does worry -- although "not all that much" -- about such things as people losing their life in Iraq and his twin daughters.
What. the. FUCK!
I'm sleeping pretty good. Seriously. I get asked that. There's times when I hadn't been. I've got peace of mind."
i'm glad somebody's getting some sleep. i really am.
the fucker.
Ruth,
Gee, those wouldn't be the same Pahlevis we propped up for, what, 25 years, resulting in the ascension of radical Islamists and the hostage crisis and the defeat of Carter, would it? Oh, this'll go well....
Morning Moonbats. (BTW, I read the first few paragraphs of the Miller thing: it sucked the big one.)
"On March 25, a detainee complained to guards that "urine came through an air vent" and splashed on him and his Quran. A guard admitted he was at fault, but a report released Friday evening offering new details about Quran mishandling incidents did not make clear whether the guard intended the result." --AP today
Um, can somebody help me here? Has anybody had this pesky problem of urine coming through air vents?
Aarg.
hi DWD-NYMary-Barndoog & all morning bats!
have i mentioned how much i hate presinuts cuckoo bangamangas?
Nevermore, I have been working on the logic of that statment and simply have failed. One cannot accidently piss on a person and his holy book: What kind of fools do they take us for? (Nevermind, I know.)
oh, yeah, hey urine comes flying through vents over here all the time!
Jesus!
oh, yeah, hey urine comes flying through vents over here all the time!
Jesus!
her eyes
I'm not so sure about that. It was some kind of "trickle down" interrogation technique they were trying out. Obviously, something got out of hand.
DWD, her eyes, & morning Eschats: how much longer can it last? Anymore, I just read the news reports, then pause and make strange ack ack ack ack ack noises for about thirty seconds or so. After a while I sort of gain my composure and start reading again.
I managed to miss the thread below, but I did want to put in my two cents. We can never have persuasion without adherence to the truth. I keep saying this, but it does not seem to be changing.
We do not need a liberal press anymore than we need a conservative. That is the reason I find it difficult to list to AAR. Though they are more reality based than their counterparts, they still play fast and loose with reality on occasion.
Truth is the answer. Tell me the truth, Don't couch it in anything like political "perspective" as the "perspective" is where the shit get deep. (To say we are losing soldiers in a war slower than traffic accidents is simply stupid)
You can offer an historical perspective: if the person offering the perspective has some idea of what actually happened. For example: GWPDA can certainly offer her knowledge as a point of reference. But do I want Candy Crowley explainging perspective: nope.
Please, let's strive for THE truth, Not a liberal or conservative truth: just the truth with reasoned discourse. If our goal is the truth and understanding, then political discourse can commence and minds will change
We are at war. War with the right. Truth is the first casualty in war.
I avoid air vents in restrooms all the time now, as a result of the flying urine report.
DWD: great essay. You brightened my morning. A little bit.
since i haven't been sleeping, i'm going off to find my own piece of mind somewhere.
if i can, somehow.
later, bats.
OT--
Big Brother, checking out the Wal-Mart
Hmmm. Homeland Security funds are being used to give cops 24-hour video surveillance of the local Wal-Mart parking lot. Note the knee-jerk explanations for the Orwellian intrusion into civic space: protecting "we're protecting our critical infrastructures," "it's more public safety than anything," etc.
City officials in McAlester have identified several sites in the first phase of a plan to use cameras to protect vital infrastructure in the city.
Plans, now under way, are being funded by an approximately $206,000 grant. It was awarded to the McAlester Fire Department from homeland security funds. McAlester's fire department has been awarded more than $700,000 in the last three years, according to Assistant Fire Chief Harold Stewart.
He said the goal of placing cameras at various locations will be for the protection of "the city's critical infrastructure."
Several sites for cameras have already been selected and more are expected, Stewart said. Images from the cameras will be sent to monitors located at th. police department using the broadband technology the city already has in place. Not all the cameras will be watched all the time, Police Chief Jim Lyles said. The police department doesn't have enough staff to do that. And the chief said there is no attempt by law enforcement to create a "Big Brother situation."
"It's more public safety than anything," Lyles said, adding it will give law enforcement "another set of eyes." A multiple screen monitoring system is already in place at the police department.
Stewart said one of the cameras will monitor the main AEP/PSO electrical system in the city.
Another location police cameras will monitor is along the railroad system that runs through the city. "We can monitor the rail traffic coming through our town, north and south," Stewart said
A camera will also be able to monitor the Wal-Mart parking lot and surrounding area, inclduing a view to the north and south on George Nigh Expressway.
A police camera will send back images from the McAlester Regional Airport so the law enforcement officials can watch planes fueling and taking off. The police department's detectives division is located at the airport.
Stewart said a camera will monitor McAlester High School, including the parking lot.
"We're protecting our critical infrastructures," the assistant chief said.
Speaking of truth: in my opinion these stories should be receiving the majority of the stories in our newz media.
I International: The civil war in Iraq
the continuing oil crisis
The fighting in Afghanistan
The border issues with Mexico
Global pollution - and global warning.
The United States' role in political torture.
The militization of space.
National: The continuing political problems of national election fraud, members of congress under investigation
The lack of recruits for the armed forces.
The continuing problem of un and under employment. (The clerk that waited on me in the store was a young lady trained as a teacher)
The lack of money dedicated to alleviating social problems.
The reality of the economy. (Stagflation anyone?)
But what do we get? Runaway brides, snowflake babies, Michael Jackson, Good news from Iraq (More fiction here than I am capable of) And China building a military. (If I were them and looking at us: I might do the same thing, it is not as if we are not warlike at this juncture) And stories of Deep Throat with countering viewpoints. (This one sucks as well. How can one actually be against a man who risked everything to expose executive malfeasance.)
Oh good. Now WalMart = Critical Infrastructure.
The end of days is truly upon us.
Her eyes, Like to offer advice for peace, but I guess one just has to keep their eyes on the horizon, you know?
Perhaps people will change? I am pretty sure they might, if they had any idea of what was being done in their name.
At any rate, hope you find a place for some peace.
"have i mentioned how much i hate presinuts cuckoo bangamangas?"
her eyes
Repeatedly Don't we all? And GM fellow Moonbats.
"Please, let's strive for THE truth, Not a liberal or conservative truth: just the truth with reasoned discourse. If our goal is the truth and understanding, then political discourse can commence and minds will change"
DWD
I heartily agree.
Kos nails the flaw in the Matt Miller piece, which is the fact that the media no longer stands for "the truth."
They are no longer honest referees but pseudo-dramatists and shills who seek to dramatize the news so as to extort the most profit from it's presentation.
David Mamet, the playwrite, has a piece in this month's Harper's magazine called "Bambi & Godzilla" that examines how the mercantile nature of "buying & selling" infuses and corrupts everything humanity does.
Mamet is far more worth a read than Matt Miller or indeed most of what passes for political punditry in America!
OMG, Wallmart is critical infrastructure? To who!?
I avoid air vents in restrooms all the time now, as a result of the flying urine report.
It sure gets around. That's why I keep my Bible in a plastic baggie (sold on the internets as the "Bible condom"). That way I can store it next to the Tanakh and the Qur'an and it won't be defiled, in addition to keeping it safe when I put it on the floor in a McDonald's restroom.
By the way: don't ask me why I spend time in a McDonald's restroom. Why can't you libruls respect Ken Mehlman's privacy?
Rudy, while I may not be able to put it quite the same way as Mamet. I've been saying for a couple of years now that GREED is what's killing this country. Actually Greed and Fear, but mostly Greed.
But really that's even more complex than it needs to be, Greed is killing the planet. Communism, great idea right? (basically it is) Why does it fail? Cause people are people and most of us suck. Most people are a bunch of Greedy assholes who would sell their own children into slavery.
Of course they don't realize it, and would never admit to it but if we keep heading on this course, that's precisely what will happen. Even the rich Greedy fuckers who got us in this mess won't be immune.
So, Communism is out, cause people are Greedy, but Unregulated Capitalism is no better for the same reason.
What's so terrible about Socialism? Seriously? It's the best of both worlds, everyone is taken care of, and Capitalistic Greed is not allowed to run rampant.
(Disclaimer: While this is definitely one of my rants, I'm drinking so bear that in mind FWIW)
For DWD, with warmest wishes:
Sam Phillips
"Gimme Some Truth"
I'm sick and tired of hearing things
from uptight-short sighted - narrow minded hypocrytics,
All I want is the truth,
Just gimme some truth,
I've had enough of reading things
by neurotic - psychotic-pig headed politicians,
All I want is the truth,
Just gimme some truth,
No short haired - yellow bellied
son of tricky dicky,
Is gonna mother hubbard,
Soft-soap me,
With just a pocketful of hope,
Money for dope,
Money for rope,
I'm sick to death of seeing things
from tight lipped - condescending -
mommies' little chauvinists,
All I want is the truth,
just gimme some truth,
I've had enough watching scenes of
schizophrenic - ego-centric - paranoic -
prima-donnas,
All I want is the truth,
Just gimme some truth.
DWD - sure, the Truth is what we all would like; that's for sure. But I hardly doubt that both sides are anywhere, anyway, equally at fault, and to suggest so is to play into the propaganda that is so pervasive in the media.
For every 1000 f***** lies told by the GOP, the democrats tell 3.
So I hardly doubt its a dual issue, right now the GOP is trying to destroy the left - the TRUTH is long gone -- first let's get our right to vote back, then the Truth can make a come back.
Thousands of new Diebold machines are being put in place to make sure the 2006 elections are secure. You will never have your Truth so long as our votes are stolen. Remember what Stalin said: "..it's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes."
Wasn't that a John Lennon song? (although Sam's version is good, I prefer Generation X's)
Deep Thought - on the money my friend. Homo sapiens is the most selfish greediest uncaring species on the planet, and we're on a fast track to triggering the next mass extinction, not to mention changing the Earth's climate, etc..
If Vengence is the child of Rape and Murder, then Greed and Ignorance must be their grandchildren.
NYMary, thanks. I have added it to my poetry file. (I have printed most of these out and tend to read them in teachers's meetings, when I have a few moments to delve a little deeper while the world drones on.)
DeepThought_42. I am not really sure that the capitalism per se is the problem. I am a firm believer in individual rights and capitalizm is the system that strengthens this perspective.
Having said that, we do not really have capitalizm here anymore. At least not the economic system that encourages innovation and individual initiative. Instead they have replaced it with what is called Crony Capitalism. (z or s? Not sure this day)
What we have replaced the fairness with is an entitlement program for the rich and their corporations. It is insidious and hard to defeat, but it is real none-the-less. Wages are stagnating and costs are escalating. That fact alone tends to take everyone's mind off the fact that we are getting screwed. Examples are legion: in Michigan home insurance is up 85% in the last three years. Apparently we are being punished for Florida having hurricanes. I am still trying to figure out why THEY are not being punished for the same. We have no choice about insurance: so we pay whatever they say. Is this capitalizm? Nope. It is called a monopoly promulgated by the companies, legislatures, and courts. Nothing to do with individual rights or freedom Instead we are left with opposite.
Haha, it is indeed, Kid C. I just know it from her better (and she's got this amazing throaty voice. The former Mrs. T-Bone Burnett).
Hey, you should check out the link in the second post down on my blog. This guy's got great pop mp3s and videos from all over the place!
Oh, and I don't think I ever heard Gen X's....
Ahhhh, another day, another wanker.
'G'mornin', bats.
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Damned cookies.
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Francis, It is early, but I am pretty sure I did not say I wanted anything like equal time for lies. What I said, and I will put it bluntly: STOP LYING ABOUT THE NEWS AND TELL US THE TRUTH. LIES FROM EITHER SIDE CLOUD THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE FACING. JUST STOP LYING - PLEASE!
Thanks Mary, will do, and do check out Gen X's first LP, it is a punk-pop classic!
We do not need a liberal press anymore than we need a conservative. That is the reason I find it difficult to list to AAR. Though they are more reality based than their counterparts, they still play fast and loose with reality on occasion.
DWD,
I heartily disagree.
We do need a liberal press, because the so called "liberals" that we see on TV are not liberals - they're Centrists. They know the truth, but refuse to speak the truth to POWER. If they do, they are quickly "disappeared".
Example: Amy Goodman. She hasn't been on "Hardball" since the beginning of March. Why? She didn't play the game. She's a liberal.
I think that Matt Miller's piece in the NYT today is probably the worst op ed I ever read!!! Could he be that clueless? I doubt it. Therefore he is playing the game. Thus, ensuring his place at the table.
His article reminds me of Kevin Drum's post last week, about Liberals on TV. Both pieces say a lot about the author's politics - they are both centrists.
Maybe someone already mentioned this, but Matt Miller looks EXACTLY like Brooks, just a little younger. He could have been cloned. It's frightening.
good morning....
"Rape is an integral and necessary expression of human nature. Sexual assaults have been present in every society since the dawn of time. It is the drive of man to reproduce, to compete successfully for advantage on the battlefield of life and evolution. In fact, it is this very competition to reproduce that motivates man to do anything productive and worthwhile in the first place. It is this competition that motivates man to aspire to greatness. Can you imagine men striving for greatness were they not motivated by their drive to reproduce by any means? Of course not, because the drive to reproduce is at the very core of mankind's essence! As long as we disregard silly 'god' superstitions and recognize that a man is ultimately responsible to and for himself, we therefore recognize that any measures that attempt to stifle this natural and inherent drive to reproduce by any means are inherently wrong. To stifle sexual assaults is the perverse anti-human dream of the superstitious or a bloated priestly class, or the self-promoted intelligentsia, which of course is both of these at the same time. In fact, no human society has successfully eliminated rape, despite myriad measures designed to curb sexual assaults. If man were only truly free to pursue this integral part of his nature we would walk as the masters of the Earth that we are!"
Now, anyone will see that this is a glaringly faulty and dangerous chain of reasoning. Just because the drive to reproduce is inherent in humans, and because sexual assault and rape stem from that drive and are a part of human nature and an expression of that nature, and because every society has had sexual assault and none has successfully eliminated rape, that doesn't necessarily mean that sexual assault and rape are good things that should be encouraged, or that there wouldn't be disastrous and apocalyptic consequences were people given carte blanche to rape.
Now, reread the paragraph and replace every occurrence of the words 'sexual assault' with the words 'free markets', replace every occurrence of 'rape' with 'capitalism,' and every occurrence of the word 'reproduce' with 'acquire wealth.'* It is now word for word the position of Ayn Rand types.
What have we learned? Certain things might be inherently part of human nature and cannot be completely eliminated, but that isn't a sufficient condition for a logically cohesive argument that they should be encouraged. If you want to argue that they should be encouraged, you must give other reasons.
The only other reason I seem to ever get is "Oh yeah, well communism doesn't work," which of course displays woeful ignorance of the enormous and diverse body of thought that is non-Milton Friedman economics.
On Washington Journal right now...they are actually discussing the DOWNING STREET MEMO...and, naturally, the right-wing blogger is presenting the position that certain words are being "parsed"...course that would be "fixing the information"...he says there is basically NOTHING NEW! And the opinions in the memo are "several steps removed" to actual evidence...and, YEP, we're trying to destroy a president (once again) according to a caller...you just can't make these people up!
Deep Thought:
I think that Greed and the other side of that coin, Rapaciousness, are the two most destructive of the seven deadly sins.
Sadly I agree with you. Too many people will sell-out for the sake of money or power (one can easily be converted into the other).
Humanity is really a barely evolved bunch of primates who are still screaming and killing each other over a bunch of bananas, so the ruling primate can get more than their fill!
Woah....That last caller on Washington Journal had a bit too much coffee this morning.
Shakespeare had it right (as usual).
The flaw isn't in the stars, it's in us - human beings.
No system of government, be it communism, capitalism or tribalism can "work" because "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely!"
As Mamet says in his piece "Bambi vs Godzilla" in this month's Harpers. Power drives people crazy.
Give it to the kindest, most gentle, peace-lover in the world and watch what happens (See Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter or Bill Clinton).
That's why there is a need for "checks and balances of power."
And the great danger to American democracy (assuming it's still salvageable), is that the Bushboy One-Party-Rule in Washington has washed away all checks and balances.
ok, here's my head on the chopping block.
Dueling talking points vs. the lost art of persuasion goes to the heart of how political speech has changed since the repubs co-opted the religeous right.
That each side has their own dedicated journalists who only speak to their own is an undisputed fact. Look at us!
(sees her own head rolling)
DWD, well I tend to agree with you, especially about Crony Capitalism. However, Crony Capitalism is all about Greed is it not? Why does it happen? Because it's been totally de-regulated, especially the Press.
So now we have no free press to tell the truth becuase of Greed.
I'm not against Capitalism in the least. What I am against is unregulated Capitalism/Crony Capitalism.
I don't know everything there is to know about Socialism, nor do I really consider myself a socialist. I'm more of a fiscal conservative and social liberal. I just believe that some Socialism is a good thing, like Health Care for everyone, taking care of people in need (along with that, weeding out people who are defrauding the system - I don't want no welfare queens either, if they even exist) and regulating Capitalistic activity; So that it's not possible for what has happened here to happen again.
We had regulation, a fairness doctrine for the press and decent social programs (although not perfect and no health care) before Reagan started de-regulating everything in site for his Cronies.
It's only gone downhill from there. Bush and our current situation are only the logical end point resulting from that. And hopefully it is the end point and we go no further that direction and back along the right path.
We will not get Truth from anyone while Crony Capitalism is allowed to continue as it is.
I view it as being like the old saying, Locks keep honest people honest. Regulation keeps people from getting so greedy they lead the country where it is now.
cspan2 is running a book expo and randi rhodes from air america is on now speaking.
Oh, good god.
The real source of this criticism is Justice Brown's consistent application of the Bill of Rights, which includes the defense of property rights. She has rejected charges that she favors a return to the Lochner era, when state economic and social regulation were overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court. This is perhaps one of the oddest allegations against her. Lochner's recognition of a substantive component to the due process clause was fundamental to decisions ranging from Roe v. Wade to Lawrence v. Texas -- deci sions many of her detractors hold dear.
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DAN LUNGREN
U.S. Representative (R-Calif.)
I'd bring back hanging and go into rope.
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been watching washington journal this a.m. too. stupid show compels me to get up before 6:00 a.m. everyday...i am truly addicted. the afterdowningstreet memo guy (steve?) made a very good point earlier saying the right kept talking about the rather memos until there was no way for the situation to be ignored. finally someone realizes the tactics of the right, while often abhorrent, are effective.
My preferred form of government and economy would be a highly regulated form of capitalism with significant checks and balance on government power, and a media that was aggressive, fair and balanced about pointing out abusers of the law, be they politicians, captains of industry or labor leaders.
In such a world democracy and the middleclass would thrive. We would have the incentives of capitalism without the egregious disproportions of wealth. We would have an informed citizenry and politicians who would know there are limits to their propaganda.
In such a system we would not have a war going on in Iraq, record budget deficits, a shrinking middleclass and an ever richer elite.
with all due respect to KOS, a samrt guy, democrats, lefties, progressives and other non-repukelicans ARE called liars (often when they are not) and are hounded by the media. (of course the 800 pund gorilla in this topic's room is the recent subversion of the Clinton presidency by a media willing to be the hatchet for a treasonous opposition).
Unfounded acqusations against democrats, lefties, and prgressives are page 1 news; the truth and retractions are weeks later buried on page 18.
The so-called 'independent' media is the water carrier and enabler for the repugliotheofascist movement that has destroyed the former principled America.
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Point well taken. Recommend you all follow my shining example, and post reasoned arguments against the excesses of the left on 'moderate' to 'left' wing sites on a regular basis. Yes, your head will be regularly chopped off, but a few intelligent beings will enter into reasoned discussions with you and it will give you the opportunity to exhibit the power of reason, and see what arguments/sound bites they are putting together.
NYMary:
Yep, that Pahlevi bunch.
I think that Greed and the other side of that coin, Rapaciousness, are the two most destructive of the seven deadly sins.
I think envy is the worst of the deadlies. Envy gives birth to all the others.
Just one res' opinion ...
The mass media has become obsessed with "profitability." That is the acid test of whether any story or "news item" gets shown.
Will it increase viewership? Will it please our sponsors? Will it antagonize the Bushboy government and cause us problems?
These are the salient questions asked by the heads of the various Networks.
As to whether the "story" has any significance or merit or truth, that is irrelevent.
As evidence I submit the most recent headline news stories shown on TV: The run-away-bride, Michael Jackson and the missing (white) child du jour!
That's why there is a need for "checks and balances of power."
Rudy
My point exactly Rudy. Regulation is another check and balance that keeps us sane.
And moving on to Oink.
I'm all for a little sexual conquest every now and then (as long as it's mutual between consenting adults) but Rape is right out!
If you change the terms like you suggest, the same applies as I've said it, I'm for regulated capitalism, but crony capitalism/greed = Rape.
As far as me saying Communism is a great idea but it doesn't work, well I'm no economist, I can only speak for what I've seen with my own eyes and my own understanding of communism. Again, really a great idea (and of course I'm being simplistic) but doesn't work at all.
I'm not sure if you were agreeing with me or not on that point.
Mary,
Just sent you the Gen X version of "Gimme"!
And if you haven't read it already, Athenae is the coolest chick around.
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Wolcott is on AAR (repeat) talking about journalists sucking up to the DC KKK*.
*D.C. Kool Kids Klub
"That each side has their own dedicated journalists who only speak to their own is an undisputed fact. Look at us!"
el
El, you are correct! However, in my experience talking with Repubs, they don't want to listen to our point of view or the facts, no matter that they're not lies but facts.
We, on the news programs, in the media and even here, hear their side of the argument (we have no choice) and are mostly unable to rebut it. It's like talking to a stone wall in most cases.
So there is something in what Matt Miller says, but Kos is totally correct (as is DWD) in pointing out, that "The utter disrespect for the truth exhibited by all media is the heart of the problem. Liars are not called liars. Falsehoods are not called falsehoods. What passes for reporting these days is "Republicans say _. Democrats say ___." When someone spews falsehoods, there is not a Media outlet in the country that will say 'that is false.' Not the New York Times, not the Washington Post, not any of them."
Whether the liars are on our side, or theirs, they need to be called to account for their lies.
I guarantee you there are way more liars on their side.
heh. An obviously leftie cameraman kept panning the back of Da Brooks head on Jim Lehrer yesterday, exposing his bald pate unknown from the front view.
I would reserve the treatment to his more obnoxious rants. Last night his calls for a commission to investigate Gitmo and Abu did not warrant the hair treatment.
. . .Please, let's strive for THE truth, Not a liberal or conservative truth: just the truth with reasoned discourse. If our goal is the truth and understanding, then political discourse can commence and minds will change
DWD | Email | Homepage | 06.04.05 - 7:16 am | #
DWD, well said and about the media too.
We don't need a liberal press or a conservative press. Like you say we need a free press that tells the truth.
We will not get the truth from the WaPo NYT CBS FOX, et al. They are monopoly propaganda organs of the Establishment. Their purpose is to advance the same Establishment agenda as Establishment puppet GWB.
DeepThought_42 | Email | Homepage | 06.04.05 - 8:51 am | #
Deep thought, I don't know if there are way more liars on their side. Way more ignorance, yes.
Door to door campaigning reveals homes of bush supporters to be pasted with icons and flags.
How do you talk to them? I took a seminar on "how to talk to those that don't agree with you". The gist is to find common ground, like "I have a friend whose brother is over in Iraq, do you know anyone over there?" or "I had to stop going away on weekends because it costs $15.00 just for gas".
It has to be on that level, because for gwb supporters, that's the only level.
mentioned upthread about Tierney's love for free enterprise:
Today's no different. Just a bigger crack pipe he's smoking.
The Pimping of the President via huffington post [ includes pictures for the neo-clowns ]:
Four months after he took the oath of office in 2001, President George W. Bush was the attraction, and the White House the venue, for a fundraiser organized by the alleged perpetrator of the largest billing fraud in the history of corporate lobbying.
http://www.texasobserver.org/sho...sp?
ArticleID=13
The old clock on the wall says it's almost Saturday 9:00AM EDT so it's time for EPT's Weakend* Edition Grouse.
NPR did it's (at least) 93rd Les Paul feature this morning. Much as I'm glad to see a living musician being covered on NPR, with this trip down yet another well, well, traveled road it is undeniable that Weakend Edition is following the format of Family Circle and the Reader's Digest. Given this perhaps it would be more honest to call themselves Weakened Edition.
Here's a hint, NPR. Do something new and people might listen.
* Weakend as in lame assed.
fundie agenda: throw soo much bullshit on any idea that eventually the actual idea is forgotten and the bullshit is being talked about - it is called 'phrasing the argument'
I blame the murkan sheeple - period.
Thanks, Kid C! It's great!
watertiger has mail.
spork, Athenae is indeed the coolest chick around. As a woman blogger in a boy's field (music) I know what she means!
El, yes, that's the same tack I take. And it's usually not that productive. When I said more liars, I meant in political and leadership roles.
But you are absolutely right that the grassroots are mostly ignorant. I come from a Republican family. I voted Republican (pretty much) all the way up till the Bush v. Gore election.
Even though I've "seen the light" and have endeavored to enlighten my family, they just can't see it. Of course, I saw the light through going through a lifechanging experience, getting laid off, not being able to find work for over a year and not getting any sympathy from just about anyone.
It made me realize, that no one was looking out for me, or people like me, that there need to be safety nets for people.
I'm now on my 3rd layoff since 2000, and the second one lasting over a year.
When I talk to these people, I also try to find common ground. But while many of them realize that Bush has done some bad things, they still haven't accepted that he's slowly (K, maybe not so slowly) destroying our country.
I can't understand that, and the only thing as you pointed out is ignorance. Not just ignorance, but willful ignorance.
If they heard the truth in the press, I think they would be far less ignorant. They hear the propaganda "Everything's fine", "The economy is fine", "We're winning the war", etc. and they then think everything else is conspiracy theory or sour grapes and won't even take the time to read and research it for themselves.
At least the downing st. memo has started to shine the light in my family's eyes a bit. Perhaps there is still hope.
And the great danger to American democracy (assuming it's still salvageable)
BIIIIIIG assumption, Rudy...
probably completely untenable, clear through...
the busheviks are putting forward about 30 new judicial nominees next week. those names'll tell ya all you need to know about the future of Democracy in America...
The Clueless Missed America Beauty Contest!
Matt and Brooks go pencil neck to pencil neck in this pretty face duel to the death.
WGG, how hard is it to impeach a judge? I've been wondering that over the last few days.
spork, Athenae is indeed the coolest chick around. As a woman blogger in a boy's field (music) I know what she means!
Just to be clear: There are many cool chicks on the internets. If Rosie ever blogs we're gonna look stupid.
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Because obviously, at least to me, if Bush ends up getting impeached and it's proven that both his terms were illegitimate due to election fraud and everything else; wouldn't that mean everything he'd done was illegal? Including his appointed Judges?
I would think it would be easier to impeach them considering the circumstances.
Wishful thinking, I'm sure. But don't you think it would be possible?
Good morning Moonbats
mogwai, so do I!
NYMary,
you've got email back!
Hey, thanks for the pimp, spork!
Anyways, I gotta get to sleep. I'll check the thread later for any answers.
Oh and clearly there are many Female Bloggers that ROCK! Athenae is one of many.
Take care fellow moonbats!
On Nice Polite Republican Radio Dan Shorr just chuckled about "Deep Throat."
Considering Shorr was on the "Enemies List" I find this odd.
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Sirius Losing Air America! (none / 0)
Sirius Listeners.
I just found out that Sirius is losing Air America to XM. That sucks because it's the only reason I bought the freakin gizmo!
Anyway, there is a poll up on AAR's replacement.
If you're a Sirius member pleas support Sirius replacing AAR with another progressive outlet.
http://www.siriusbackstage.com/f...pic.php?
t=23056
"Once fully enslaved, no nation, state, city of this earth ever afterward resumes its liberty." -- Walt Whitman
WGG, how hard is it to impeach a judge? I've been wondering that over the last few days.
DeepThought_42 9:20 am
I can think of only one federal judge who's been impeached in my lifetime: Alcee Hastings, of Florida, who was appointed by Jimmy Carter, but later impeached. He was then elected to the US House from the 23rd District in Florida.
Since 1789, impeachment proceedings have been initiated against 12 judges. Nine other judges resigned before such proceedings were formally instituted. Eleven of the 12 impeachment cases went to trial; four resulted in acquittals and seven in actual removals. One resigned during the proceedings. The most recent cases of impeachment and removal occurred in 1989, when Judges Alcee Hastings and Walter Nixon were impeached for financial misdealings and corruption. (Hastings later went on to win election to Congress from Florida.)
so, it's pretty hard, i guess
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BTW, that Spanish cat is killin' me! So . . . sassy!
NYMary,
Yahoo's being a wanker - will respond as soon as the email actually comes thru.
And Special Wanker O' Th' Week goes to Jon Stewart. Three TDSWJS this week and in the entire 90 minutes there was only two lines worth a fuck, neither of which was delivered by JS: Schiavo was a Pilates class away from being in the cast of Stomp (Colbert) and Fuckin' bananas (Steve Produce Pete Carrell). Be sure to tune in next week when JS licks Colin Powell's ass (every Bushy's favorite lawn jockey).
Ironically, the fact that liars are not called liars anymore is a result of the Dems PC movement. The Dems' worldview that everyone can sit at the table meant you had to pretend to not see a lot of the nonsense that came with them. So now, when, say, Jeff Sessions comes on MTP and spews 180 gallons of b.s., it's seen as just another "viewpoint." This is yet more fallout from the Dems loss of cajones.
watertiger sez:
BTW, that Spanish cat is killin' me! So . . . sassy!
What are you looking at? You looking at me? I'll bite you!
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WGG, thanks for the answer. I'm still here obviously, the wife decided that since we're still up it would be a good time to water the yard. LOL
That's what I was afraid of, it seems that Judges can be impeached for breaking the law, but not necessarily if the law was broken when they were appointed.
Not sure if that would stand, after all these are extraordinary times. But I would hope so, if the rest of my impeachment scenario played out.
Ironically, the fact that liars are not called liars anymore is a result of the Dems...
Blah Blah Blah Clinton got a blow job Blah Blah The media is liberal Blah Hitler would have joined the ACLU Blah Blah Something about negroes Blah Blah Blah Nixon got a raw deal Blah George Soros is rich (and Jewish) Blah Stalinist mobs control universities Blah Kerry threw his medals Blah Blah Blah Rich Lowry says we're winning in Iraq Blah Blah Blah
What are you looking at? You looking at me? I'll bite you!
"Look at me. I am, how you say, beautiful? I know this. And you know this. And this makes you verde with envy, no?"
Ok, now I'm finally going to bed!
Later fellow bats
I hate to plump NPR but this is nice stuff.
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From "Crosseyed and Painless" by the Talking Heads:
Facts are simple and facts are straight
Facts are lazy and facts are late
Facts all come with points of view
Facts don't do what I want them to
Facts just twist the truth around
Facts are living turned inside out
Facts are getting the best of them
Facts are nothing on the face of things
Facts don't stain the furniture
Facts go out and slam the door
Facts are written all over your face
Facts continue to change their shape
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At this point in time, what was accomplished by forcing Newsweek to retract and apologize?.
The subsequent release of Koran incidents was known to the administration at the time and suspected strongly by the public.
Like the successful swift boat attack on Kerry earlier, was it just another Goldstein moment of raw power where we the administration demonstrates it can get anyone despite their apparent strength and correctness of position to knuckle under?
wow, Henin-Hardenne is rolling Pierce. Good for her. She rocks and does it w/o the adoring press (US) coverage.
"Look at me. I am, how you say, beautiful? I know this. And you know this. And this makes you verde with envy, no?"
watertiger - 9:42 am
You're standing between me and my food dish.
This thread is getting stale, we need something fresh; plenty of room for comments on my blog.
Like the successful swift boat attack on Kerry earlier, was it just another Goldstein moment of raw power where we the administration demonstrates it can get anyone despite their apparent strength and correctness of position to knuckle under?
Gimlet |
You are correct, Sir!
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Sean sez:
wow, Henin-Hardenne is rolling Pierce. Good for her. She rocks and does it w/o the adoring press (US) coverage.
I should take tennis lessons. I do like it. Unfortunately, when I play I swing for the fences. That's not good tennis-wise.
At least Kournikova has quit.
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Re: Koran and Toilets
So DoD says, sure the US ripped it up and pissed on it and stepped on it, but it was the detainees themselves who actually put it in the toilet.
I guess that justifies the WH orchestarted smackdown of Newsweek
PS Donald Rumsfeld said today that Al-Jazeera TV is giving the US a bad reputation in the Middle East.
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WHy would they come out with this "we pissed on the Koran" news now that they managed to discredit Newsweek, etc.? I wonder if it has something to do with the photos that judge says must be released?
In case you haven't seen it, here's an interesting new twist on the DeLay scandal. Abramoff and Norquist were apparently billing clients for "face time" with the Chimp:
Texas Observor
"PS Donald Rumsfeld said today that Al-Jazeera TV is giving the US a bad reputation in the Middle East."
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--Agent Orange
I found it ironic that Rumsfeld told China it was spending too much money on its military.
A quibble: the Media love to call someone a big liar if that someon is Clinton or Gore. It doesn't even matter if the accusation is true or not.
But what do we get? Runaway brides, snowflake babies, Michael Jackson....
DWD | Email | Homepage | 06.04.05 - 7:29 am | #
Bread and circuses, DWD. We are the Roman rabble.
Morning, all.
Faux Dispatch from Iraq
John Burns, NYTimes-Picyune.
Baghdad: This is my last report from the front lines of America's war on terror. I have decided to take Mrs. Burns back to the United States, buy a cottage in upstate New York, and try to find my integrity - I must have lost it somewhere. . .
The truth about Iraq is that we do not know what is happening. We pretend that we do, but that is a lie. The truths we can speak to are these: We are trapped inside a small area that is heavily fortified called the Green Zone. It is far too dangerous to try to do anything like real reporting, so we hang on the press releases from the DOD and the White House. We report these talking points without pointing out the obvious flaws, if we did not do so; we might have to do our own reporting and that would be dangerous.
In truth, this place has become hell on earth for any human being. Bombs go off daily, seemingly at random. You cannot drive anywhere, because you may be blown up. We cannot get a perspective on the new Iraqi government because, although they are a government, they have to acquiesce to whatever whims the US can dictate. There is no choice.
As far as anyone can tell, there is a full-blown civil war that started about a year ago and is strengthening. The Shia hate the Sunni and the Kurds hate them both and vice-versa. Due to some stupid WH talking point, we have to refer to this as "Sectarian Violence." Right. A rose by any other name . . .
So, this is it: I am not going to even try to pretend anymore. This is a quaqmire without precedent and we will never be able to graciously expedite ourselves. The truth is that the death toll from the Viet Nam war may be looked at with envy in the future.
WHy would they come out with this "we pissed on the Koran" news now that they managed to discredit Newsweek, etc.? I wonder if it has something to do with the photos that judge says must be released?
Res Ipsa Loquitur
Good question. Remember when the photos first appeared Rumsfeld said there was more and it was even worse. Those images never appeared.
Remember there was aclosed door hi-level presentation made to both side of Congress about those latter images. I remember seeing the faces of the congressman coming out of those meetings and it didn't look good. Even the hard core Bush apologists looked grim.
Also by including the tidbit about the detainees doing the flushing, that gives FoxNews their angle on how to present the story to their loyal followers.
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Hate those words that sound alike (GRRRRR Should be EXTRICATE not EXPEDITE.)
DWD,
Sure that wasn't "Exculpate"?
DWD, thanks for the John Burn's article. Maybe, just maybe, truth will prevail.
Sure that wasn't "Exculpate"?
So, who's culpating now?
NYMary, Nope - not sure. After all this time I can state absolutely that I hear the damned words in my mind and sometimes I am hard of hearing . . .
OT but confirmation of what I have been saying to anyone that would listen for years now: Large booksellers sell their aisle space and end caps to publishers who are willing to pay them off for the "prize." Why this should be interesting is that it is just one more way to keep controlling people's thoughts and beliefs. Support the independent press: please. In truth the alternative media and the Indy Publishers are all we have to fight the powers that be . . . .
Judge says considering the charges facing him, Saddam Hussein's morale is at an all time low.
BushCo. might try to use the "Saddam trial" as a 2006 campaign push.
"Descision in the Desert 2006"
Graphic testimony about how Saddam kills his own people (BTW we kill his people too) and how the world is a safer place. Of course all testimony will be in secret for "security" reasons and we'll never hear Saddam talk about his meetings with Rumsfeld and other US military and business reps.
DWD, thanks for the John Burn's article. Maybe, just maybe, truth will prevail.
mer =- 10:19 am
nahhhh, won't happen. truth is dead as an bomb-eviscerated Iraqi baby in the Mosul morgue...
the actions of an unknown print reporter from some second-rate paper in a fly-over town (the NO Times-Picayune) will not register anywhere that it matters...not today, not tomorrow, not next week, not ever...
sorry to be the 'scold shower'...
Like the successful swift boat attack on Kerry earlier, was it just another Goldstein moment of raw power where we the administration demonstrates it can get anyone despite their apparent strength and correctness of position to knuckle under?
Yes.
Your point?
the sheets, they have just been ironed...
OK, I'm apologizing up front. The following pun is beneath me, and you.
But...is the picture of a Cat-alonian?
okbye.
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the actions of an unknown print reporter from some second-rate paper in a fly-over town (the NO Times-Picayune)
Faux Dispatch from Iraq
John Burns, NYTimes-Picyune.
T'aint real.
We'll see, kono, we'll see.
I have a tendency to be pessimistic, also, but as the Rude Pundit commented yestiddy, the 'Gates (scandals) are "mov(ing) in tighter and tighter until they become increasingly strangling".
The amount of energy required to bring about a phase change increases greatly as the change point is approached though, so it will take a while.
If Miller is right, why bother commenting at all, other than to hear one's own voice?
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