I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Forrest Gump.
Anything by Ivory and Merchant.
"interiors" or any serious movie by woody allen.
Wow, we must be on the same wavelength, because I despise all the movies mentioned. Two more: Aguirre, the Wrath of God & Gandhi.
Second "Forrest Gump".
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.
The ending sets my teeth on edge. No good way to end the story, so go for the nervous breakdown Deus ex Machina.
Pulp Fiction
Total Recall
Leaving Las Vegas
and last but not least:
Moulin Rouge
Leaving los Vegas.
Yep. Pure crap.
I didn't really like Sideways either.
Yawn.
Aieeee. Moulin Rouge (shudder).
Driving Miss Daisy
Which was just as racist as Birth of a Nation.
Fuck me, with a take up reel...sideways!
Titanic.
I win, you can all go home now.
Witches of Eastwick
The French Lieutenant's Woman
American Beauty without a doubt.
Dear God! You've been reading the threads... damn you, Atrios! DAMN YOU!!!!
Forrest Gump.
American Beauty.
The Cook, the Thief, his wife and her lover.
Second on the English Patient. It was absolutely terrible.
sideways
Oh Thersites - I love you!
Still - the pic with you and the missus - how do I know it?
Titanic ...absolutely the worst script (dialog) of any film ever made since time began!
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Was E.T. critically acclaimed?
I have met people who consider that the best movie ever made.
Pablum layered with sugar. Rots the teeth and the mind.
Did'nt we just have this conversation?
Well maybe I was not a part of it,but I WAS following it.
My Dinner with Andre
Thin Red Line
The Right Stuff
Long and boring, with stupid masturbation jokes and shit.
Amadeus
The main character was that jealous, bitter composer. He completely dominated the story and it didn't even happen that way. They should have at least made Mozart the main character. His genius could speak for itself without that other asshole. It SUCKED.
The Unbearable Length of That Film. ooops. Lightness of Being.
Memento: bit hugely.
The Spotless Eternity of the Sunshiney Mind.
Actually, I haven't seen a recent movie I liked since Travolta starred in The General's Daughter, or Stallone went up into the Hudson from a blown out tunnel.
I was reminded of this tonight when it appeared on TBS or TNT I think it was. The Genreal's Daughter was on, boy, did they hack that to pieces, cut, cut, snip, snip.
I did see Outfoxed and F/9-11, and compiled my own movie from "The Power of Nightmares" BBC series for my own use. Outfoxed and F/9-11 were excellent, but many don't really think of F/9-11 or Outfoxed as "movies." "The Power of Nightmares" though, is an essential as I see it.
TITANIC.
Blair Witch Project.
Never have I read so many reviews, and left the movie theater thinking "What the f*ck?" I decided it was all a giant inside joke designed to make everyone in the country a sucker.
Forrest Gump blew, too, but I expected that. I expect all critically acclaimed Hollywood movies to suck.
Didn't like "Being John Malcovich" either. Mostly because of the hype, I think.
So I plan to enjoy "Batman Begins" and "Fantastic Four." If the critics like it, I'll turn against it, I'm sure.
apollo 13
I refuse to take part in this one, because:
* I'm not a film snob;
* I tend to look for the good, rather than the bad, even in the worst.
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Somehow I never seem to remember the worst movies.I guess I just blank them out of my memory.I only remember the ones I liked.Not that they were great or anything.Cause, compared to some here,I have awful taste on movies.
Driving Miss Daisy
Which was just as racist as Birth of a Nation.
What a ridiculous thing to say.
Citizen Kane.
You can never get enough of "bad movies"!
Though, as a film major, (and yes I've certainly used THAT degree!) I do enjoy that we can bitch and complain about movies we hate and love = without ever realizing that most countries have no real freedom of media (such as ours is). Okay, rambling, should sleep,
Gandhi, really? Geesh.
Titanic? Kate Winslet's breast. Nuff said.
American Beauty? Oh my, what a lovely belly.
Pulp Fiction? QT hatin' is so passe.
Moulin Rouge? What colors!
Honestly, I can't think of a critically-acclaimed movie that I hated.
A movie that I thought I'd love and can't sit thru... What Dreams May Come...
God, I could feel my hair growing while I waited for something to happen in that movie.
Oh, and The Wall - Pink Floyd. Never been a PF fan so it didn't have any relevance for me.
Although, both movies made me wish that I used drugs, so I could enjoy the visuals in some trippy way. Enh...
Perhaps Atrios thought that by raising the topic, we would immediately change the subject.
The George W Bush Story. God does that movie suck.
Forrest Gump. The French Lieutenant's Woman. The Postman Always Rings Twice.
Have I offended anyone yet?
Ummmmm... Barry Lyndon.
*ducks, runs from room to go back to watching "Bubba Ho-Tep"*
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Come to think of it, two Hanks films I hated then and despise now: Forrest Gump and The Ladykillers remake.
Oh yeah, speaking of Steven Spielberg:
Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Stupid. Why are aliens always psychic in those ditzy movies? Spielberg reads the National Enquirer too much!
Loved American Beauty.
Fucking HATED The Piano. Love Holly Hunter and want to love gal directors, but HATED that goddamn movie in a million ways.
Oh, and the cook, theif, whatever - glad you hated it pixie, just the precious title kept me miles from it.
Oh, Moulin Rouge and Gladiator and all those "twitchy" movies. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. American Beauty. (Any movie whose moral center is a stoner teen watching garbage, and whose ending is a wacky Three's Company-style mixup needs work.)
Ron Brynaert -- des says she would like you to stop with the e-mail. Can you do that?
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Pearl Harbor.
I gritted my teeth through the whole thing and had fantasies of harming Ben Afleck.
"Get me in a Damn plane."
OOH OOH - The movie with the great title that just sucked . . . The Unbearable Lightness of Being.
Worst movies...anything with Meryl Streep.
Enough said.
Here's a variant of the thread question. Did anyone NOT like The Godfather I and II? Why not?
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Nur,
Remakes generally. I could punch the motherfuckers that remade my personal favorite film, Bedazzled.
Sophie's Choice.
Lord of the Rings
It was the most endless agony I've ever experienced.
Didn't bother seeing Titanic because I knew I would hate it.
Third on the English Patient. Hated it.
Enemies: A Love Story. No it wasn't.
Titanic. When When DiCaprio's character died I was relieved since the movie had to end soon after.
As for The English Patient: the book was bad enough. I avoided the movie at all costs.
Love anything by Kubrick, however. It's a knee-jerk reaction. Can't help myself.
RMJ - I second "The Blair Witch Project"
WTF? Can nobody suspend disbelief for a fucking movie?
Sharkbabe--I despised The Piano as well. It was, well, icky.
"Crash"
Right wing propaganda that thinks it's liberal.
Looking for Mister Goodbar(Diane Keaton totally miscast).
Chariots of Fire(guys running with Vangelis soundtrack, whoopie fuckin' doo)
Nashville,/i>(so contemptuous of the subject matter I almost turned into a Red Stater watching it)
Thersites, good to see you. I thought you were a day shifter?
Anything that grosses over 20 or 30 million bucks...
Get Shorty
Rain Man
Silence of the Lambs
yeah, saw the movie talk below, thought I'd narrow it a bit.
Agent Orange: I did not like them. The reason is the lack of a moral center that is "acceptable." The morality or lack thereof is offputting
Critically acclaimed movies I've loved:
The Shawshank Redemption. The Killing Fields. The Year of Living Dangerously.
Didn't bother seeing Titanic because I knew I would hate it.
I saw it on cable, partly to see what the fuss was about, but mostly so that I could rag on it knowledgeably.
I think it was a tragic missed opportunity - the actual ship sinking stuff was pretty cool, and it could have kicked ass as a straight disaster movie.
Janet Maslin liked True Lies. I still want my money back from that one.
Moulin Rouge was like bad acid+headache. It took me weeks to recover. I had to read Descartes to feel better, it was that bad.
Did anyone NOT like The Godfather I and II? Why not?
Because I fucking hate the Mafia! They're just a bunch of thugs who don't want to get up in the morning and go to work so they steal money from honest working people. There's no excuse for the way Americans idolize them, and there's no excuse for making movies and TV shows that glorify the worthless bastards.
Eraserhead is a masterpiece.
Lord of the Rings
It was the most endless agony I've ever experienced.
I watch it more obsessively than I re-read the books.
DWD,
I use the Godfather movies to teach meieval lit. Good way to get into the moral ambiguity of 'fealty'.
As for The English Patient: the book was bad enough. I avoided the movie at all costs.
I thought the book was decent. Never saw the movie after I heard how they butchered the book.
All-time favorite flick: Dr. Strangelove, or How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the Bomb.
BLUE VELVET
The Player, and about 80% of Altman's oeuvre. Just too... precious.
So much hate in the world... 
medieval lit, duh.
Mississpi Burning. Good actors and camera work.
Shit history. Made the FBI out to be the heros of the Civil Rights Movement.
Field of Cliches w/Kevin Costner
Sallyh,
Shawshank is in my top 25.
Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman were just... incredible.
I farking despised "The English Patient."
Just for kicks, could we have a thread about movies that are actually grand? WTF. Bad movies are a dime a dozen. There are some movies that should be revived to remind us of where the right wingnuts have taken us before and where we are headed again if we go down that cracked path. I, for one would like to see more of that angle.
Because I fucking hate the Mafia! They're just a bunch of thugs who don't want to get up in the morning and go to work so they steal money from honest working people. There's no excuse for the way Americans idolize them, and there's no excuse for making movies and TV shows that glorify the worthless bastards.
...or putting them in the White House.
WTF? Can nobody suspend disbelief for a fucking movie?
Word.
Well I like the Mafia movies...
Casino
Goodfellas
Godfathers
Nick Dixon: Eraserhead is a masterpiece.
The only film to have made me nauseous, for reasons I could not readily explain.
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NTodd--I usually suspend disbelief when watching films. Of course, my standard fare is SciFi Saturday night, so I've had lots of practice.
yeah, unbearable lightness of being stank. I also hated the book, though I quite liked others by the same author.
The Player, excellent choice. The "I hate movies" movie
Perhaps Atrios thought that by raising the topic, we would immediately change the subject.
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so true. and yet, i'm with the movie crowd, perhaps b/c it's saturday and i'm sob, at home.
titanic- jeesus what a waste of three hours.
m. rouge- can i puke some more?
LOTR_ROTK- um, 11?? oscars? i don't think so.
all those dumb, boring, not funny, misogynist japanese movies about samurai that are supposed to be like 'great westerns' but are really just homoerotic pound downs for guys who want to feel tough.
most of streep's movies...bore me to tears.
and i've always hated westerns, except for little big man.
and of course, "the learning tree." i can't believe that's in the LoC as a seminal american film.
A Beautiful Mind - easily.
redjb,
Ugh. I hate David Lynch.
Oh! btw, I'll be in the audience July 10 at Rec Park--my buddy Steve Lawrenson is playing!
"Gentlemen, Gentlemen! You can't fight in here...this is the War Room"
DANCES WITH WOLVES!
HA!
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just realized I forgot my ultimate Hate Movie.
Pretty Fucking Woman.
Oh, and let me be the first to say...
The Passion of the Christ
I'm sorry, but it just wasn't much of a movie. Slow, for the most part, then overly violent and bloody. If we didn't know what the story was, would anyone want to watch it?
"I think it was a tragic missed opportunity - the actual ship sinking stuff was pretty cool, and it could have kicked ass as a straight disaster movie."
It would have sucked it didn't have Ernest Borgnine or Shelly Winters in it.
chariots of fire--lyric boredom.
Nick Dixon: Eraserhead is a masterpiece.
The only film to have made me nauseous, for reasons I could not readily explain.
Literally left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
I'm pretty sure the lighting got progressively dimmer too, evoking that kind of uneasy feeling I have when it's around dusk and the lights aren't on yet.
I'm still pissed about the two hours and 9 bucks i blew on Chocolat
personal favorite film, Bedazzled
Perhaps your thinking of the late night infomercial for the Bedazzler? http://www.metroactive.com/paper...lices-
0136.html
And NTodd - I'm with you on the suspension of disbelief - I'm a huge Ebert fan (he's a movie lover, dammit!) but some films are just bad - "Wild Orchids" gets my nomination for worst film ever.
The Passion of the Christ
It never rose from the dead of boredom.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Prospero's Books. Peter Greenaway should be shot.
Unbearable lightness had one incredibly erotic scene, but overall it sucked like a hoover.
Field of Cliches w/Kevin Costner
Costner is so ovverrated.Waterwold was soo bad.
OTOH,I did like dancing with wolves.
Also that french movie Amelie. I love french movies. But I kept waiting to be blown away like all the reviews said I would be. That actress was cool. But the reviews with their "this is a life-changing experience" bullshit - please.
"Bamboozling a Nation" by Coco Bananas, Dickless Dick Cheney, Donald (doublespeak) Rumsfeld, and Kindasleezy Rice.
There's no excuse for the way Americans idolize them, and there's no excuse for making movies and TV shows that glorify the worthless bastards.
Riesz Fischer
Which is why I prefer Scorsese's Mafia films to Coppola's wet kiss to the Mob films. Even though I can't sit through Scorsese's mob films. When Pesci dies in "Casino," it's one of the ugliest things on film. Completely cold-blooded.
Nasty.
NYMary |..
Great it will be nice to meet you..
Riesz Fischer - who glorifies the Mafia? Does telling a story equate with extolling the virtues of the subject? Does A Hard Man is Good to Find celebrate murder? Does the Lottery elevate groupthink to a virtue?
L.A. CONFIDENTIAL!
THE USUAL SUSPECTS!
HA! HA!
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Bad movies?
Mister X hit on one that left me feeling like I needed to be disinfected....Bubba-ho-tep.
I rather liked Pulp Fiction, but didn't like The Aviator.
Snow Day , which was partly filmed around here was also pretty bad too.
My faves all times are
1)Casablanca (no script, was completely ad-libbed)
2)Depardieu as Obelix and Bellucci as Queen of the Nile in "Asterix Mission Cleopatra"
3)Depardieu in Cyrano de Bergerac
I like mafia movies, too, but my fav is "Crazy Joe" with peter boyle. Not to be confused with "Joe" which he also starred in. It's hard to knock good gangsta flicks.
Oh, Atrios, Pretty Woman teaches us girls that hooking is the path to true love!
I hate that movie where first the Muslim-Americans are thrown in the blast furnaces and then the gays and then anybody that's not white/christian enough... Oh wait, they'll make that movie 50 years from now, and it'll be made by someone in China.
"The only film to have made me nauseous, for reasons I could not readily explain.
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I am not the only one. Good. I had nightmares after watching that movie. Have never tempted a viewing since.
"It would have sucked it didn't have Ernest Borgnine or Shelly Winters in it."
The Poseidon Adventure is rather amusing, really.
bobo's piece in the sunday times is titled "lessons of watergate". i couldn't bring myself to read it but if anyone can try to sum it up in a few sentences for me please.
just realized I forgot my ultimate Hate Movie.
Pretty Fucking Woman.
Dear God yes.
It's no "Showgirls," that's for sure.
I like the jose ferrer cyrano better
Leaving Las Vegas.
Secrets and Lies
Gladiator.
Dances with Wolves.
Eyes Wide Shut.
About Schmidt.
NYMary--I can't believe Monsieur likes Pretty Woman. I loathed it, completely. Horrible message, horrible people.
Depardieu was born to play Cyrano.
"War Hardon" by Chimpy McChimpster
Traffic.
Three clichéd stories do not magically turn into one good one.
The Deer Hunter.
Despite Christopher Walken.
As Good as it Gets.
Painfully bad.
Ali.
No, no, no,no, no.
And anything by Nora Ephron.
"Pretty Woman teaches us girls that hooking is the path to true love!"
I still do not get the Julia Roberts attraction thing that so many of my gender profess. I think she looks like a human horse and she acts about as well as her brother.
I generally approve of David Lynch in a wary, skeptical kind of way, but Wild At Heart was just unbearable.
To give you some perspective: I am a *huge* NY Giants fan, and my college showed Wild At Heart at Flicks about an hour after the G-Men won Superbowl XV in a nailbiter, putting me on Cloud 9.
And half an hour into Wild At Heart I was pissed off and angry.
"Bamboozling a Nation" sucked. I wish they had let me walk out on it.
eraserhead had all that bizarro fetus imagery. got to be on the all weird flick list. also, after hearing lots of hype, I was disappointed in that old movie freaks, about circus midgets and freakshow artistes that assassinate an evil vamp and her circus strongman lover. I mean i was expecting to pass out from fright after all the hype.
I tend to not go see most of the big movies, or anything made of a book I loved, but I agree completely with Blair Witch and Malkovich. I remember being disappointed with both of those.
The Passion of the Christ
Refuse to see it.Wont let it into my house either.THe other half can leave if she disagrees.
Kramer VS. Kramer
Yeah, Gladiator.
What an empty peice of shit.
there's actually a theme to movies I hate - when coerced sex is a "good thing."
Anything with a Darabont script should be good.
redjb,
Ugh. I hate David Lynch.
Never have liked a David Lynch film.
and most of the films mentioned here remind me why I don't go to movies anymore. I've seen them, eventually, on TV or via rental. And I'm seldom disappointed that I saved my money.
I tend to find foreign films at Blockbuster and take a flyer. Without the critical hype, I don't expect much, and usually, I'm not disappointed.
It's that, or special effects shows.
Howard's End - saw it with a Chinese friend raised on Hong Kong action flicks, who said "Two hours for a bookcase to fall on some guy?"
But I liked Get Shorty and Silence of the Lambs...
You guys are pikers! Worst movie ever..."Dr. T and the women"..holy friggin shit was that bad. Richard Gere, and every B level actress that will someday appear in a Tarantino movie.
Meanwhile, in the category of "so bad it is good".
I nominate "The man with two heads". Ray Milland and Rosey Grier riding a motorcycle down an L.A. wash! Fake head of "Milland" bobbing while Grier rides.
Must be seen to believed.
Nur,
Depardieu was born to play Cyrano.
I completely agree. Nowhere else has his "so-ugly-he's-sexy" vibe worked so well.
"I still do not get the Julia Roberts attraction thing that so many of my gender profess. I think she looks like a human horse and she acts about as well as her brother."
I mean the male gender.
Magnolia (also Boogie Nights)
The Color Purple
Cast Away (also Forest Gump)
...but I'll happily defend "American Beauty" and, to a lesser extent, "Sideways" against the slanders upthread.
*American Beauty (almost walked out)
*Anything with "Lord of the Rings" in the title.
*Anything with "Kill Bill" or "Cremaster" in the title. Just pure sadistic narcissism - like having someone vomit in your mouth for 3 hours and everyone's talking about how fabulous the gazpacho is.
*Dogville. See above.
*Cold Mountain
(ironically, thought Nicole Kidman was good in both of the last two).
Didn't bother seeing Titanic because I knew I would hate it.
me -- 12:09 am
and besides, you already knew how it would end...what fun is that?
Fifty five years ago this day the movie of my life commenced. The damned thing is not done yet, but it is getting closer to the end now.
BLUE VELVET
Isabella and Laura. Sigh.
"Gentlemen, Gentlemen! You can't fight in here...this is the War Room"
"I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed."
Waterwold was soo bad.
I love dystopian, post-apocalyptic shit, but the only redeeming qualities of WW were the catamaran and Tripplehorn's stunt butt.
The last temptation of Christ. kazantakis, scorcese, Willem daFoe as Jesus. I haven't seen the Gibson rant. Not gonna do it.
I don't know if this counts, but I really hated the last MASH episode, which was kind of movie like. By then, I was deathly sick of Alan Alda.
Singe--I glanced through Bobo. As usual, I have NO idea what he's talking about. Perhaps someone of greater intelligence can make sense of his misuse of the language.
there's actually a theme to movies I hate - when coerced sex is a "good thing."
Atrios
It's a Hollywood theme. Goes all the way back to Valentino. Made his living off of it.
I tend not to like robert altman movies, though they usually have a few decent bits to mildly redeem them. Other than fucking ready to wear which even the parade of naked women couldn't save.
there's actually a theme to movies I hate - when coerced sex is a "good thing."
Atrios
That's a pretty safe guideline.
I completely agree. Nowhere else has his "so-ugly-he's-sexy" vibe worked so well.
NYMary |
That's what works with Julia Roberts too. The horse face out of proportion look has some sort of appeal. Or maybe not.
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What about Chicago?
Damn that movie sucked.
"Earnest goes to Washington" By the Crawford Idiot.
I hate
Dog Star Man (all 4 hours of it)
Battleship Potemkin (baby, steps, czarist police! feh!)
An American In Paris
Oklahoma
Cheech and Chong's Next Movie
stinkers, one and all.
"Gentlemen, Gentlemen! You can't fight in here...this is the War Room"
genius. Terry southern script. basically a pornographer.
there's actually a theme to movies I hate - when coerced sex is a "good thing."
Lets out a surprising number of films. A friend of mine once said that he was struck by the fact that Thelma & Louise was the first movie he ever saw where rape was presented as something totally disgusting.
Nûr: I really want to see the Astérix movies!
And Depardieu was born to play Cyrano.
However, that reminds me *sob*:
102 Dalmatians.
Which is why I prefer Scorsese's Mafia films to Coppola's wet kiss to the Mob films.
I so agree. There is nothing glam about the Mafia. Scorseese put the cult of cold blooded killers in context. Fuck the "family honor" angle. We are talking about cold blooded killers here, not the Rotary club.
Happy birthday DWD!!
I liked Blade Runner and A Boy and his Dog, even the original Road Warrior, tho many hated it, and I cant stand Mel Gibson now.
there's actually a theme to movies I hate - when coerced sex is a "good thing."
Unless it includes Young Republicans getting raped in prison.
DWD, is it your b-day?
You guys are pikers! Worst movie ever..."Dr. T and the women"..holy friggin shit was that bad. Richard Gere, and every B level actress that will someday appear in a Tarantino movie.
Now, if it had been *Mr.* T And The Women, I would have been so there.
Dr. T should have just stuck with the 5,000 fingers.
My faves all times are
1)Casablanca (no script, was completely ad-libbed)
Yeah! Tied in my pantheon with Raiders of the Lost Ark for the #1 spot.
The Poseidon Adventure is rather amusing, really.
Great star turn for Gene Hackman.
I love dystopian, post-apocalyptic shit, but the only redeeming qualities of WW were the catamaran and Tripplehorn's stunt butt.
And the pee-drinking!
Always a crowd pleaser.
Dave,
for you to write "what a ridiculous thing to say" about my comment on a movie that has been condemned as being patronizingly racist in many places including one of my favorite Public Enemy songs probably means you should watch it again (though I wouldn't advise it). The premise of the film seems to be the only proper way to react to racism is to turn the other cheek and wait until there is a death bed conversion. So...yeah...I think Driving Miss Daisy is just as racist as Birth of A Nation which at least had groundbreaking direction.
Any film that has a character named Sergeant Kowalski sucks. I often wonder if that were some kind on in-joke.
The Player is an exception. Good film, watchable at least once a year.
Mr. Fischer,
The Godfather was a circus of cliches compared to the real thing like the old Gemini Lounge and the building behind it where Richard Kuklinski made Murder Incorporated look like a pack of school girls!
The sight of Vinnie the Mobster walking about in Greenwich Village in his PJ's while running the Genovese family couldn't have been created by Woody Allen or Fallini for that matter, it just had to be seen.
For that matter Brando himself thought the Godfather had been overhyped.
Don't slam Gladiator-it has Russell Crowe's thighs, which was worth the admission alone.
Ghost-anything with Patrick Swayze and/or Demi Moore is sure to be lame.
Let's talk about movies the critics trashed that were actually cool.
Sugarland Express?
RE: Altman:
I liked MASH and The Plyer, but tht's about it. And the latter probabl has something to do with my unreasoning crush on Tim Robbins, which even saved Bull Durham for me.
I completely agree. Nowhere else has his "so-ugly-he's-sexy" vibe worked so well.
Gerard may have done well in this movie - but TOMMY LEE JONES baby! Does it for me!
nashville is a great movie. as is Popeye. altman is hit or miss, but Popeye, I could watch robin williams tear up the scenerey every night for dinner. and Cookie's Fortune as an homage to Renoir, so-so. Kansas City, great, The Player, not so much.
Il Postino-cosmically boring and
Sideways-the story of a nerd and his friend, the a**hole.
Let's talk about movies the critics trashed that were actually cool.
Gummo. Janit Maslin trashed it mercilessly.
"Gentlemen, Gentlemen! You can't fight in here...this is the War Room"
genius. Terry southern script. basically a pornographer.
"$100 in rubles. $100 in gold. One package condoms. Shoot, a feller could have a pretty good time in Vegas with this!"
there's actually a theme to movies I hate - when coerced sex is a "good thing."
What if you just use chloroform? Or if she's having seizures or is narcoleptic? That's okay, right?
Schindler's List. Would have worked much better as a comedy with Bill Murrary in the Liam Neeson role.
HOWEVER, the worst movie ever made, pound for pound, is clearly:
Attack of the Clones.
I believe I am on solid ground here.
Jack! There's a boat, Jack!
Titanic was total schlock GREAT. Kate Winslet, rrrowwrrr.
Last movie I saw in a moviehouse, Oceans Twelve. What a piece of total worthless crap. Dino and Sammy Davis roll in their graves.
"I liked Blade Runner and A Boy and his Dog, even the original Road Warrior, "
I concur on those choices. A Boy and His Dog I think was the one that rode the edge completely. It was fun sitting in a theater watching it and listening to people towards the end get a bit freaked out. They hated the film for the very reason it was good.
Fifty five years ago this day the movie of my life commenced. The damned thing is not done yet, but it is getting closer to the end now. - DWD
Happy birthday, Old Man... you're a little over half way there.
From a fellow Gemini,
Meanwhile, in the category of "so bad it is good".
From dusk to dawn.Great soundtrack.And Selma hyak is really hot in her strip tease.
Hey, don't diss Nashville. IIRC, it features one terrific folky chick trio.
English Patient: Horrible. I was booed in the theater for laughing at the dialog.
Jerry McGuire: Instruction manual for co-dependency.
the competition pretty good flick with Richard Dreyfuss and Amy Irving.
'Blade Runner', put me out so fast I have only made it to the end once.
Actually, it's not even critically acclaimed but it has subtly influenced pop culture and sci-fi even more than Star Wars.
[mst3k] gene hackman's great in everything, including Space Travelers...[/mst3k]
NETWORK
One of my all time favs
Yeah! Tied in my pantheon with Raiders of the Lost Ark for the #1 spot.
You know there was a shot-for-shot remake of that, filmed by a bunch of 12-year-olds (or thereabouts), that was apparently surprisingly accurate and impressive? I read a description of it, and would love to get a hold of a copy.
NTodd--Casablanca and Raiders are definitely contenders pour moi. Love them both.
Okay,
I liked Galdiator but I have yet to see anyone knock Troy. Now that stunk.
Lord of the Rings
The (Infinitely Long) Thin Red Line
Moulin Rouge
Lord of the Rings
Wild at Heart
Lord of the Fucking Rings
The French Lieutenant's Woman
Something About Mary --- why did everyone think this was so funny? Ben Stiller has been better (Flirting with Disaster & his short-lived FOX show) plus, why is bad taste all of a sudden acceptable. History of the World Part I, which was hysterical was panned for being in bad taste in the early 80s, but
somehow its now ok.
Age of Innocence - you think Scorcece, DDL and the lovely Winonnnna would make for a good movie - especially set in 19th century NYC, all I can say is ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz
Just saw I Heart Huckabees - what was the big deal? Extentialsim, extentialsim, who cares?
Star Wars, give me those Star Wars
those crazy Star Wars
Gerard may have done well in this movie - but TOMMY LEE JONES baby! Does it for me!
myrna minkoff
Tommy Lee Jones is the only reason to watch "Batman Forever" over and over and over again.
Or "Men in Black." Or even "Man in the House." (We're moving down to the basement rapidly here, you understand.)
Though not for the reasons you cited (well, not for me....)
I tend not to like robert altman movies, though they usually have a few decent bits to mildly redeem them.
Shortcuts? The Player? No?
even the original Road Warrior, tho many hated it, and I cant stand Mel Gibson now.
Undubbed version is cool.
And the pee-drinking!
Always a crowd pleaser.
Any movie that shies away from drinking piss isn't worth pissing on, IMHO.
yeah boy and his dog, great ending too, with the dog saying something cynical about cannibalism (well i guess not from his point of view)and then burping.
I used to hate Atlantic City, but I hate it less now. same thing with Hidden Fortress, used to be annoyed but now I amused.
everything by Bunuel and Fassbinder is so not to hate. Los Olvidados, what's not to like. and nobody pushes a donkey off a cliff like Bunuel. now that's entertainment!
I love the "Godfather" movies. I always thought they illustrated perfectly how "the world" is really run, for lack of a better description.
"cook, thief, yada yada" is the most pretentious hunk of steamy dog poop I've ever sat through. Gahh, what a horrible movie.
"Forrest Gump" is just straight up evil. What an insidious, reactionary movie that is.
I liked "Blair Witch" a lot. I think they made a mistake airing "curse of the blair witch" on Sci-Fi channel instead of incorporating it into the movie somehow. That and "Ringu AKA Ring" are my 2 fave horror movies of the 90s.
Whew! 
BoBo Alert. Basically pointless. He must have written it while sitting on the toilet. Here's the money quote regarding Watergate...
It's about Woodward and Bernstein. Watergate has become a modern Horatio Alger story, a real-life fairy tale, an inspiring ode for mediacentric college types - about the two young men who found exciting and challenging jobs, who slew the dragon, who became rich and famous by doing good and who were played by Redford and Hoffman in the movie version.
Don't bother with the rest.
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Happy birthday DWD!
"The Reptilian Secretary of State" starring Condi Mushroomcloud Rice.
Thersites,
Obviously you didnt see the previous movie to Clones, Phantom Menace. When I saw Clones it seemed good at the time compared to it.
Any movie that shies away from drinking piss isn't worth pissing on, IMHO.
If I ever go to a movie with you, I BUY THE POPCORN.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
or as I refer to it:
Crushing Boredom, Hidden Logic
Mystic River - was forced to see this against my will. If there had been any more scenery chewing going on the entire set would have collapsed.
Forrest Gump
The Wizard of Oz - someone tell me I'm not alone on this one
i've never seen any versions of the Ring, though my wife's cousin was the star of the Korean remake.
I liked "Forrest Gump" as a movie. However, I'm not crazy about the job he is doing in the Oval Office.
WHAMMY!
Yep, 55 this thanks gor beihg here
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind
Pearl Harbor was critically acclaimed?
From dusk to dawn.Great soundtrack.And Selma hyak is really hot in her strip tease.
Oh man, that toe...
'Blade Runner', put me out so fast I have only made it to the end once.
You got something against Vangelis? Actually, the theatrical release is bogus. Director's cut is cool.
Yeah! Tied in my pantheon with Raiders of the Lost Ark for the #1 spot.
You know there was a shot-for-shot remake of that, filmed by a bunch of 12-year-olds...
Seen it. Fucking impressive.
Casablanca and Raiders are definitely contenders pour moi. Love them both.
You are wisest of the wise, Baker of Cakes.
Nobody can ever beat All About Eve
Best funniest coolest movie ever. Joe Mankiewicz, now there was a writer.
Ah, crap. Atlantic City's the one with the cool chick trio, not Nashville.
I think.
just realized I forgot my ultimate Hate Movie.
Pretty Fucking Woman.
Atrios
Yiiiiikes! I only watched a few minutes of that load of tripe. Why the fuck was that a *hit* movie? Just STOP IT!
OK, later, moonbats. Peace out.
for you to write "what a ridiculous thing to say" about my comment on a movie that has been condemned as being patronizingly racist in many places including one of my favorite Public Enemy songs probably means you should watch it again (though I wouldn't advise it). The premise of the film seems to be the only proper way to react to racism is to turn the other cheek and wait until there is a death bed conversion. So...yeah...I think Driving Miss Daisy is just as racist as Birth of A Nation which at least had groundbreaking direction.
Read what David Shipler has to say about "Driving Miss Daisy" in his book, "A Country of Strangers: Blacks and Whites in America." Just because Public Enemy thinks it's racist does not mean that it necessarily is (and I say that as a big PE fan). I'm not saying you can't object to the movie but to call it as racist as "Birth of a Nation" is silly.
phantom menace was more offensively bad than clones, but I've actually had the desire to repeat phantom menace viewings and i can't say the same about clones...
Braveheart
todd--I hate the Wizard of Oz. Film always creeped me out.
Never understood why Dorothy went back to crappy Kansas with her bitchy relatives.
i've never seen any versions of the Ring, though my wife's cousin was the star of the Korean remake.
You Wagner fans are so weird.
"cook, thief, yada yada" is the most pretentious hunk of steamy dog poop I've ever sat through. Gahh, what a horrible movie.
Try the cock. You know where it's been.
If I ever go to a movie with you, I BUY THE POPCORN.
My cunning plan is working beyond my wildest dreams! You should also buy the 64 oz Coke--it's the better value.
The Prince of Tides with Nick Nolte and Barbra Striesand. It was so dramatic that it made me ill. God I hated that movie.
Thersites,
Obviously you didnt see the previous movie to Clones, Phantom Menace. When I saw Clones it seemed good at the time compared to it.
Hawthorne Wingnut
Phantom Menace made me stay away from Clones.
Caught enough of it on Fox a few weeks ago to know I made the right decision.
Didn't Rocky win an Oscar?
that one steams with badness
Terry Southern. He also worked on Easy Rider.
http://www.terrysouthern.com/
Let's talk about movies the critics trashed that were actually cool.
All the Pretty Horses (Billy Bob Thornton, dir.)
...Someday I'd like to see the full-length "Director's Cut" rather than the theatrical version, which was brutally cut.
smalfish
I laughed all the way through Dusk to Dawn. Even the wife who really doesn't care for that sort of film was having a good time watching it.
i've never seen any versions of the Ring,
Fucking scariest movie made in quite some time.My hair stood on end when that girl crawled out of the television.
Seen it. Fucking impressive.
Dude. Where can I get/see a copy?
The absolute best movie of all time is....(drumroll) "The Gods must be Crazy"
Strangelove is john edwards favorite movie
http://
www.turnerclassicmovies.c...,,81889,00.html
Chicago????? It had Zeta and Rene in fishnets, Zeta especially with that flapper haircut. Wowwwwwwwwwwww!
Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte.
Man, when Bruce Dern got his hand cut off, I nearly _____ed. HA!
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I didn't like Braveheart
But must mention as a best:
To Kill A Mockingbird
of course
I've actually had the desire to repeat phantom menace viewings
Dear God!
MARTINI! STAT!
I've seen three "ringu" movies, I, II and 0. The US remake wasn't so bad either.
Never understood why Dorothy went back to crappy Kansas with her bitchy relatives.
Funny, The Matrix is one of my faves, and I never understood why Neo would ever give up being FUCKING SUPERMAN to wear moth-eathen sweaters and eat snot. Heck, he could still fuck Trinity while jacked in, so why would he leave?
Agreed on the Ring. It wasn't what I was expecting, did a nice twist at the end.
Prospero's Books -- awful
Terry Southern wrote Easy Rider, then got ripped off by peter fonda and dennis hopper, at least according to what ive read.
...but we also have no plans to see Sith, I have to say....
3)Depardieu in Cyrano de Bergerac
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nur, love you always, but got to say: snore. i really, really wanted that movie to end, and i'm so tired of depardieu i could just say "don't you french folks want a fresh, attractive actor to represent your nation?" (that guy from the Indochine not counting)
let's not mention quelle horreur depardieu did with ms. goldberg.
atrois, on the other hand, is utterly right: american movies can't seem to portray rape as anything other than 'hot sex with a twist.'
i have to go to bed now, or i'll scare y'all with my Very Strong Emotions on the subject. but seriously: someone smarter than me should list all the movies where men get raped, and it's considered 'spicy' or 'exciting' and then list every movie (all of them?) in which women are the recipients of similar abuse...what a contrast and discussion that would make.
anyway: night, moonbats. thanks for being here, as always. between the downing street situation and the recent revelations about bolton's unwarranted firings, i'm almost hopeful as i tuck it in tonight. wgg; you know i wuz messin wit you. peace out.
Strangelove is perhaps the best ever
The kind of choice for JE that wingnuts would love to skewer him for (ya know, making fun of defense . . . .blah blah)
The absolute best movie of all time is....(drumroll) "The Gods must be Crazy"
Also in my top 25....
NTodd--family (including daughter's best friend) trashed the rest of the pineapple upside down cake. I'm thinking I should bake another cake. But I'm undecided as to flavor.
Monsieur just put on 'Collateral.' I'm skeptical.
Oh, yeah:
Demi Moore's The Scarlet Letter.
Why don't we just change the fucking eding of the story? Why not have, like, Indians coming in to fucking rescue her?
*******
It's OK. I'm better now.
Where can I get/see a copy?
Bit Torrent?
The Big Chill, Titanic, Mr. Holland's Anus - I Mean Opus.
Atlantic City is a good flick.
I haven't seen the US Ring II yet. I'm not expecting much from it.
Here are ones I genuinely couldn't stand:
"Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" (previously mentioned) (which I saw back when the idea of filibusters brought to mind Bob Dole and other Republicans effectively nullifying the '92 presidential and congressional elections and demolishing Bill Clinton's legislative program, duping the public into believing he was incompetent and enabling Republicans to gain control of Congress in '94; I personally thought the ending would've been better if Claude Rains had shot Jimmy Stewart, then told the Capitol Hill police to "begin rounding up the usual suspects")
"Meet Me in St. Louis" (you know you've got problems when the title itself contains a purposeful mispronunciation that's acknowledged early in the movie)
"2001" ("Hey, I'm Stanley Kubrick, so I don't need to make my movie comprehensible!")
"A Man for All Seasons" (Good thing they had Thomas More explain his reasoning only half a dozen times; real heroic of him using semantics games to avoid getting convicted; and I sure didn't see that final betrayal coming.)
"Scent of a Woman" (It's good to lie through your teeth for friends who indulged in a completely tasteless prank involving the vandalism of an expensive car.)
"The Cider House Rules" (It's good to betray the guy who finally enabled you to leave the orphanage by having an affair with his fiancee, and an individual doctor knows better than the government who should go to fight in a war against fascism and tyranny, and just because your employer provides you with your livelihood and your housing doesn't mean he can attach any conditions to your use of the housing.)
Also, I wouldn't go so far as to say I couldn't stand any of these movies, but I thought they were all grossly overrated:
Previously mentioned ones:
"The Piano"
"The English Patient"
"Titanic"
Others:
"A Beautiful Mind"
"Chinatown"
"In the Heat of the Night"
"Raging Bull"
Ibrahim liked Ringu, I was underwhelmed. horror doesn't really do it for me.
we watched The Life Aquatic last night (again) and I hated it less. Bill Murray was pretty funny, and I wnated to hate it but found myself liking the sly jokes about mortality and patriarchy.
From Terry Southern web-site
Eighty-four years after the "war to end all wars," George W. Bush seems hell bent on starting a "war to end all peace" and our government is pursuing a nuclear arms policy that makes Dr. Strangelove look like a sissy.
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"To Kill A Mockingbird" That is almost holy. It should be shown in school as a mandatory viewing and reading. Talked to one of my younger co-workers and they had excerpts from the book. And he really didn't grasp the concepts running through the film.
Has anyone seen The Wizard Of Speed & Time? Very low-rent, but quite charming.
Doctor Zhivago, but maybe it was because I was 9 1/2 months pregnant.
Sorry but 2001 is good
demonstrably so
just have to disagree. Otherwise, I can see hating all those films
Oh yeah, Lord of the Rings is the most overrated film (x3)
The absolute best movie of all time is....(drumroll) "The Gods must be Crazy"
Also in my top 25....
Central Scrutinizer
The second one is also fantastic!
"ending". Sorry. I remember watching that thing with my chin on my chest. I couldn't believe it.
Didn't Rocky win an Oscar?
that one steams with badness
airron
Friedman won a Pulitzer. Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize.
All prizes are clearly worthless. QED.
The absolute best movie of all time is....(drumroll) "The Gods must be Crazy"
Hoyt C.
Definitely in the Top 100, I'll give you that...
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Terry Southern wrote Easy Rider, then got ripped off by peter fonda and dennis hopper, at least according to what ive read.
cf. Jim Thomspon and Stanley Kubrick
Never understood why Dorothy went back to crappy Kansas with her bitchy relatives.
The movie really messed with the theme of the book, simplifying the entire message into "there's no place like home". Definately not what L. Frank Baum meant.
Doctor Zhivago
Boring. Some nice visuals though.
Whatever Happened To Baby Jane scared the crap outta me. It was probably the pancake make-up laid so thick they had to cut eyeholes out of it.
Another all-time favorite? Clerks. Randal said everything I ever wanted to say to my customers when I waited on tables.
pbg,
The Scarlet Letter is a great teach, though. You put in weeks on the novel, then you show them the film, and they're PISSED. "WTF! He lives? They live together? This sucks!" A great pairing to teach "the book is always better" as a general principle.
BTW, did your SIL like Liverpool?
EkCenTriK: I am not the only one. Good. I had nightmares after watching that movie. Have never tempted a viewing since.
Oddly enough, I'm now quite the Lynchophile...
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I liked Reds. I would.
Goodnight, moonbats. Gonna read a bit of TTT and then hit the hay. You all are a bad influence on me, you elitists.
yeah, cider house rules movie was kinda sucky. The book I thought was an incredibly powerful pro-choice argument (though I read it about 18 years ago so I don't know if that still holds), but the movie managed to muddle that so much that even the wingnuts didn't bother to protest it.
I was on the glacier where Dr Z was filmed in Canada. Also made it to Superman's Crystal Palace glacier.
Those Canadians know how to build sets. Snow and ice everywhere, I tell ya!
Captain Corelli's Mandolin: I watched the first 5 or 6 hours, couldn't stay up for the second half of the film.
Star Wars I and II (can't believe local hero Roger Ebert liked them): Excruciating pain watching them. Hoped for death during the first one. Wouldn't come.
To the man upthread that mentioned Blair Witch Project.
Once you ever see the crime scene photo of the woman splayed out on that odd cross, you'll never want to see it again!
Photo is at sites like goregasm, ogrish, steakandcheese and consumption junction I think. I don't advise looking at it.
OT
Is it too soon?
Drove down to Houston today.
Thought we were gonna check out the Montrose area and get a hotel room and explore tomorrow. Well, Phhhffft!
No hotels to be seen.
Knob Hill in Albuquerque, or Yellow Springs in Ohio, makes this place look boring.
We did go to a way cool Art Museum. A lot of them in the area.
Seemed to lean towards surrealism. Even had a collection of trinket like art pieces that surrealist artists collected.
My favorite moment.
We walked thru a room of Andy Warhol stuff. You know, soup cans and Ms Monroe.
My remark to Melissa was “I wonder how many copies of that pic there are?”
I had to go back.
I looked real close at the Monroe pic. It was a real silkscreen, not a copy.
Donated to the museum by Andy Warhol.
I like Marilyn Monroe and Andy Warhol
Andy Warhol
Andy Warhol
It’s wall
Huh
Its wall Not hole
Are you ready yet
Yah Yah Yah
Then one of David Bowies best songs ever!
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I love Kubrick movies. Even "Barry Lyndon" and "Eyes Wide Shut" were worth watching at points.
"Trainspotting" is one that I just couldn't see the big deal about it.
Love:
CoolHand Luke
"What we got here is a failure to communicate"
J.P.
It didn't do it for me. I had the nausea issue as well. Frankly, I tend to avoid things that induce that effect.
"2001" ("Hey, I'm Stanley Kubrick, so I don't need to make my movie comprehensible!")
Go read the book and then watch the movie.Not a bad make.It is hard to understand whithout any foreknowledge.I thought Kubrick was true to the story,whish is more than you can say about most book to movie conversions.
Here's another variant of our question. Name an actress or actor that is always unwatchable no matter how great the script, how great the director or how great the other cast members are?
My vote. Richard Dreyfus unwatchable in everything!
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Clerks. Randal said everything I ever wanted to say to my customers when I waited on tables.
Oh, I can't go to bed without letting this slide by. Do you, or do you not, think that all the people who died on the Death Star deserved it?
I like Terry. I had no idea he was the hippest guy on the planet.
We walked out of a movie with John Travolta as an alien. Some Ron Hubbard story, I usually like any Sci-fi movie but this was a real stinker, can't remember the name.
NTodd--I think in all probability, 99.999 percent of them did.
I hate hate hated Mary Poppins. It's my least favorite movie EVER.
Dick Van Dyke should have been given life in prison instead of an Oscar nomination.
Bit Torrent?
Really. Any guidance on what I should search for?
"You sucked 36 dicks?!"
www.deathstarbodycount.org
Those people on that Death Star knew what they were getting into....
Hoyt C--Battlefield Earth. We avoided like the plague.
Travolta was good in Pulp Fiction, though.
Go read the book and then watch the movie.Not a bad make.It is hard to understand whithout any foreknowledge.I thought Kubrick was true to the story,whish is more than you can say about most book to movie conversions.
smalfish
Actually, the book came from the movie. The original idea was from an Arthur Clarke short story (not unlike "A.I." at the end of Kubrick's life). He and Clarke worked on the script, which Clarke then turned into a book, and then a series of (increasingly bad) books.
first time I ever ran into an actual, flesh and blood wingnut was when the fundies protested Scorsese's Last Temptation of Christ. liked the movie, the gnostic revisionism was pretty funny in a way. in the same way that "the aviator" was pure revisionism in a way only scorsese can pull off.
not to hate: Raging Bull.
Love:
CoolHand Luke
"Still shaking that bush here, Boss!"
"Mary Poppins" for some reason that reminds me of Julie Andrews going topless in that movie by her husband (drawing mental blank).
Forrest Gump blew, too, but I expected that. I expect all critically acclaimed Hollywood movies to suck.
Everybody's hating on Forest Gump. I didn't get to see it at the movies. My parents and sister bought a microwave for my birthday some years back. My mother and sister have keys to my home and they would come in and put stuff in my microwave, while I was gone to work. One day, my mother bought Forest Gump movie and it was there, in the microwave. I called the microwave "the magic microwave". Once, there was a $20.
I thought Kubrick was true to the story,whish is more than you can say about most book to movie conversions.
smalfish
Yeah, anyway. Try to name another movie made from an Arthur C. Clarke book...
There really should be more.
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we watched The Life Aquatic last night (again) and I hated it less.
I loved this movie!! I just loved Steve Zii-Zoo and his team - and the special effects.
Just a fun all around film - to me, any way, not that it matters. . . .
And, RMJ, do you know Tommy Lee Jones? I'm some years behind him - did see a pic of his dad I think in the Vernon Tx playhouse.
Travolta - no matter what he's in, it's always Travolta and not the character.
Nicholas Cage bothers me, as well. Can't say why; I feel like I should enjoy his work but...
We walked out of a movie with John Travolta as an alien. Some Ron Hubbard story, I usually like any Sci-fi movie but this was a real stinker, can't remember the name.
You hate freedom of religion? Battlefield: Earth is the bible of Scientologists.
"You sucked 36 dicks?!"
LOL! I sure do love meatloaf.
Pretzelattack--SOB, and a fine nasty movie it is
"Yeah, anyway. Try to name another movie made from an Arthur C. Clarke book...
There really should be more."
I agree x100
Did anyone like Bulworth?
One of my polical leaning favs along with Wag the Dog.
The Ring?- OMG I never stopped laughing, then I never stopped feeling bad because of the two hours of my life I will never get back.
Yes, I did make it through the Director's cut of 'Blade Runner' in the theater, but just barely.
Worst Movie Ever- 'Heavenly Bodies'. Awful, awful rip-off of 'Fashdance'
I think someone should cast Jack Nicholson and Jesus.
yeah thanks SOB!
Man, I'm busy....but I can't walk away from this.
Anything by Kubrick, for starters. Utterly wooden and pompous and emotionally empty.
"Taxi Driver." Completely silly and incoherent claptrap, IMO.
"Touch of Evil," ditto plus lousy acting.
Most Bergman films...though a few of 'em have their moments.
Ditto for Kurosawa.
What can I say? The combination of ponderous and empty leaves me cold (almost) every time.
On a positive note, Bresson's "Au Hasard Balthazar" comes out on Criterion this month...get it or else!
Now that I've infuriated who knows how many people, I have a quick question:
I know there's a some loophole in Bush's cutting of "double taxation" that makes it pretty much immaterial for smaller businesses, but I can't recall what it is. Any economists know the answer?
On a political note: Clerks made the distinction, years before the Lewinsky scandal, between oral sex and sex proper. Anyone to whom that was news had clearly never seen Clerks.
Or given (or received) head.
Just sayin'...
Okay, I really am going now.
[/ted smith]
"I'm not even supposed to be here today!"
Tommy Lee Jones' college roommate?
Al Gore.
Platoon - Not a terrible flick, but vastly over-rated.
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Didn't even finish it, and I rarely quit on a movie no matter how bad.
The English Patient - Not a putrid movie, but extremely overrated.
Barry Lyndon - And I'm a big Kubrick fan, but geez, casting Ryan O'Neal?
Donnie Darko - WTF?
Glory - Herskowitz is the poor man's Ron Howard... Well done hackwork.
Any Altman flick
Travolta - no matter what he's in, it's always Travolta and not the character.
Are you saying a Sweathog connot be Loved?
"Sleuth" has always been a favorite of mine.
Ditto for Kurosawa.
GAHHHHHHH!!!!!! I loved Throne Of Blood!!
Breakin' II, Electric Bugaloo.
Discuss.
Nicholas Cage bothers me, as well. Can't say why; I feel like I should enjoy his work but...
Ripley
As Schwartzenegger peaked in "Conan", so did Cage in "Raising Arizona"...
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Agreed on "English Patient" -- Elaine Benis was absolutely correct.
(And I say this as someone with lust in his heart for Kristin Scott Thomas.)
Also agreed on "Dances with Wolves"
(Was rooting hard for the Cavalry).
I saw "Little Big Man." I loved "Little Big Man." "Dances with Wolves" is no "Little Bib Man."
Oh -- and while we're on Costner --
"Field of Dreams" = Pile of Mush.
NYM: They loved it--even being plunked down in the middle of Liverpool's European Cup win, which made everything rather insane.
They got on Irish radio because of it.
Julie Andrews went topless in S.O.B., IIRC.
Raging Bull may be Scorcese's best IMHO.
Braveheart was boilerpot piece of shit.
I still to this day do not understand how a movie like that got Best Film at the Oscars. Dumbfounding.
Maybe I saw a different movie.
Here's imdb Worst Movies List:
http://tinyurl.com/6n3g7
Donnie Darko is very overrated.
is sleuth the one with michael caine and lawrence olivier?
NYMary--and she looked damn good doing it.
Barry Lyndon - And I'm a big Kubrick fan, but geez, casting Ryan O'Neal?
the fuck you talking about, that was perfect casting in Kubrick's best film. the candle lit cinematography and Regency decadence of this film made up for all the bad bad bad things Kubrick did to Jim Thompson.
Oh yeah
Field of Dreams wasn't highly rated
an it was vastly overrated
worst sports movie I can think of.
we watched The Life Aquatic last night (again) and I hated it less. Bill Murray was pretty funny, and I wnated to hate it but found myself liking the sly jokes about mortality and patriarchy.
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Oh, god, I love this movie. I don't even know why. Bill Murray is wonderful (loved Lost in Translation, too).
I pretty much hate any movie directed by Spielberg--I can't take his contrived sentimentality.
I also hate a lot of movies I've never seen, and refuse to see, because I'm offended by them conceptually--Pretty Woman is definitely in that category. Also, whatever that Glenn Close as crazy dumped mistress movie was called.
GAHHHHHHH!!!!!! I loved Throne Of Blood!!
BlakNo1
That's fine...you're allowed! But the build-up on his movies has never matched the experience of watching 'em, for me. There's nothing there, IMO.
Mizoguchi, on the other hand, kicks my ass to the moon and back.
I didn't get Withnail and I at all. I ended up sleeping through most of it, just like did Jean de Florette and Manon of the Spring.
Donnie Darko is a great movie! Don't trash it.
Donnie Darko - WTF?
It was weird, I know, but the ending kind of blew me away. He was basically erasing his very existence from the girl's mind in order to save her. One of the most purely selfless actions I've seen in a movie.
Oh... how bout The Mexican? Star power, my ass....
Biggest piece of crap that was critically lauded: Gladiator.
Okay, gotta go let the cat in, and prep for tomorrow's shoot!
Lay-tar, tay-tars!
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johnny depp gets great costume and makeup but really bad movie for Pirates of the Carribean
Phein,
Actually Captain Corelli's Mandolin is pretty good, but like Mediterraneo, it has these draggy parts of visual effect, and as I see it, only the John Woo, Hong Kong gangster movies with Chow Yun Fat, and that group can pull off the visual "pause" scenes with any believability. Rosselini, De Laurentis, Fellini, none of the Italian directors and actor/directors have captured that "Visual pause" like John Woo can, with the possible, and really quite notable exception of the director of "Cinema Paradiso," which I thought was far better as a take home VCR rental than a theater presentation.
I didn't get Withnail and I at all.
Me neither. Glad to see someone else feels that way. Everyone I know loved it.
Scout Prime--I hate to confess that I actually like some of those movies on the list.
Blood simple good movie
SOB on acid. The only way to see that film.
See ya Jeffraham - kiss Curly for me.
I didn't get Withnail and I at all.
Me neither. Glad to see someone else feels that way. Everyone I know loved it.
I never even heard of it. You... bastards...
loved Lost in Translation, too
I really liked that movie a lot, but I know a lot of people who weren't impressed. I think the issue is expectations; the critics were all swooning when it's really just a sweet little movie that will appeal to a certain group of people. It's not some grand epic that will save cinema.
"Battlefield Iraq" starring George AWOL Bring 'em on, Bush and Big Dickhead Cheney.
God I hate these people...
One that wasn't panned by critics, but generally underrated was Force 10 from Navarone. I also loved The Guns of Navarone.
And Clueless. *ducks*
I enjoyed "withnail", but I don't see myself watching it ever again.
Sallyh
I don't think I've seen any of them so can't say
I liked Blood Simple, and parts of Raising Arizona.
Name of The Rose. I liked it.
magnolia's,
Possibly, but the Coens are tricky. It's just a few steps from the genius of Miller's Crossing to the psychosis of Barton Fink. And the Coens don't see the line.
I have to add that although I loved "Blue Velvet" when it came out, I'd rate it a lot lower nowadays. Watched it a couple years back and the magic was most decidedly gone.
I liked Withnail & I. But I liked How To Get Ahead In Advertising even more.
I didn't care for The Coens at all until "Lebowski", and that movie is great!
Without a doubt, CABARET.
I thought the Sponge Bob Movie kicked righteous ass.
Honestly. See it. Preferably with a kid. Most pleasurable movie experience in years for me, actually.
Love Akira Kurasowa movies like the I love my husband: intensely and long. Throne of Blood was the absolute best. The final battle scene has been ripped off by Spielberg, Zemickis and Stone than I can count.
s sleuth the one with michael caine and lawrence olivier?
Yes, and I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it by saying who else it in it.
I was a little dismayed with the ending of "Wonderland". What is a porn, with no cum shot at the end?
Unsettling.
And Clueless.
Someone who likes Clueless? No way, I'm totally buggin'.
Mizoguchi, on the other hand, kicks my ass to the moon and back.
mine too. and when out of sorts I reach for my well worn copies of Ozu.
not to hate: Chinese Ghost Story (I and III, II not so much)
It's just a few steps from the genius of Miller's Crossing to the psychosis of Barton Fink.
Barton Fink is in my top 10,000.
I loved Barton Fink but the one with George Clooney and the great soundtrack was a waste of my time.
"Wild at heart" is nuch better than "Blue Velvet".
how did Maximum Overdrive not make the worst 100 list?
"Curtis, are you dead?...oh, you're not my Curtis."
NTodd: Riesz Fischer - who glorifies the Mafia?
The Godfather movies clearly glorify the Mafia.
It's funny the way people fall for the idea that the Mafia thugs are geniuses who can sneak a horse head into your bed without waking you up.
Well, here's a news flash-- they're not geniuses, they're morons who can't earn an honest living.
oh, pixie,
Don't duck. Like Bridget Jones, it's based on Jane Austen. Comedies of manners must be updated to make sense.
Agreed on The English Patient and Unbearable Lightness--yeesh. Gotta add Gangs of New York, too--piffle.
Nat
The Pearl Harbor attack sequence in Tora! Tora! Tora!
Miller's Crossing and Billy Bathgate. Two good gangster flicks. Miller's Crossing was a better film perhaps. I liked seeing bruce willis in cement overshoes.
Scout Prime--how could one not love "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians"?
I considered that one of the more fun flicks of my childhood
Fargo. My roommate rented it. I stopped watching about an hour into it. I don't know how it ends. I don't care. The scene between Frances McDormand and her old lover should win an award for the most extraneous scene in cinema history.
Jerry Maguire. Worse than "Plan 9 from Outer Space." I was so disgusted that I bad mouthed the movie to anyone in earshot for over a month afterwards. Was this supposed to be a comedy, or a chick romance, or a sports flick?
Batman. I didn't see the sequels. All I could see in this movie was this hyped-up director thinking he was so artsy and avant-garde without actually being artsy or avant-garde. Oh, yeah and that dork from that crappy "Mr. Mom" pretending to be the Dark Knight.
Casablanca. I actually prefer "Barb Wire," which is a remake. It isn't bad, but it is hardly IMDb Top 250 material. It's been so long since I've seen it that I don't have much specific criticism.
Chicago. It was alright, I suppose. The soundtrack was good. But it was more like a stage play than a movie, and that doesn't work well on the screen. When Richard Gere was shown pulling on those marionette strings, I was astonished the shot made it into theatres; the over-the-top symbolism was nauseating.
Sin City. It was alright, I suppose. The visuals were good. But it was more like a comic book than a movie, and that doesn't work well on the screen. The long spoken bits of comic book text were really annoying.
Return of the Jedi. Folks, the last two movies of the prequel trilogy were better. Ewoks, dorky Luke trying to be badass, Vader going soft, Carrie Fisher's and Harrison Ford's bad acting jobs, the stupid claptrap of the "Hurry it up, will you?" line to Threepio ...
Shawshank Redepmtion. The movie was average until we saw Tim Robbins's escape. That was great. Then we saw the ending. Bad buddy movie ending; Morgan Freeman *should* have found the murder weapon under that rock, making innocent Robbins guilty all along. It would have been a great "Fuck you," but instead we have this pathetic "Meet my friend" bit that would look lame in a "Lethal Weapon" movie.
ET. My parents took me to see it in a drive-in when it came out. I was overwhelmed ... by the drive-in. As a kid, I could wind up liking crappy movies before puberty (see "Return of the Jedi" above), but not this one. My mother kept trying to convince me that I liked this movie the whole ride home.
The Fifth Element. Cut too quick. Milla Jojovich isn't pretty.
Pretty Woman. Starring Julia Roberts. Maybe you should cast a pretty woman in a film about a pretty woman?
Bram Stoker's Dracula. Keanu Reeves' performance kept me from seeing "The Matrix" in the theatre many years later. None of it was sexy, Sadie Frost aside.
Eyes Wide Shut. Like "Showgirls," it turned me off of sex for a week. Unlike "Showgirls," folks pretended this was good. Such a tragedy that Kubrick dies with this piece of shit out.
I didn't mind "The Piano," but it came out the same year as "Farewell, My Concubine" did and it shared honors with it a Cannes, and I still can't figure that out. "Farewell, My Concubine" blows the stuffing out of "The Piano."
I've never seen "Jurassic Park" or "Titanic." Well, I did see 10 minutes of "Titanic" on television, just to see DiCraprio die. (Maybe Camile Paglia's last good line was that DiCraprio looked like a 13-year-old lesbian.) I tend to avoid hype. I've never seen any of the "First Blood" movies either, in spite of having read the book.
As for movies I love ... my IMDb 10s are the first two Godfathers, first two Star Warses ("The Godfather" I and "The Empire Strikes Back" are the greatest films ever), "This Is Spinal Tap" (which like "Casablanca," was almost wholly unscripted), "Goldfinger," "Goodfellas," "Pink Floyd Live at Pompeii" (because it's footage of the greatest rock band ever), the first "Rocky," "Pulp Fiction" and "Bridge on the River Kwai." Not really the point of the thread, but I'm a hypercritical bastard, but I can't hate everything.
The Big Chill was a wee bit overrated. I guess it's more powerful if it was your generation.
hated miller's crossing, loved barton fink...
Oh, Herzog sucks too. Except for "KAsper Hauser," which was pretty good. And I liked things about "Nosferatu." But "Aguirre" is one of the few movies I've ever walked out of. Yeesh.
What's that angel movie by Wim Wenders? I didn't like that, either.
the Harry Nilsson movie "the point" seemed quite profound on acid. I dont know what it would be like to watch it straight though.
I never even heard of it. You... bastards...
Thersites
You misspleeded
Bastids!
You Bastid!
.
School For Scoundrels is hilarious.
Favorite Coen Bros flicks are O Brother, Where Art Thou? and Fargo.
Riesz Fischer
It is an american idiosyncrasy to glorify our criminals. Hence the current administration.
Lost In Translation: Great
Starship Troopers: Great but Hate
The Way We Were: Hate more than Hate
My husband can't believe anyone would want to watch Taxi Driver willingly. Extremely disappointed.
SIDEWAYS. too long and too lousy for words.
in addition, it has driven up the prices of pinot noirs.
a vile film that would almost make you think it was bankrolled by pinot noir producers.
clueless was great. not "deserves 3 million oscars great," but nonetheless a pretty clever and slightly subversive update of 'emma.'
hated miller's crossing, loved barton fink...
MARTINI! STAT! WE'RE LOSING HIM!
Breathe, damn you! Breathe! I'll dose you with the life of the mind!
I saw a movie starring Sean Penn, he was driving a red mustang through Arizona. He broke down in, was it Paradise? Billy Bob Thornton was his mechanic. There was an Elvis impersonator he got in a fight with. Can't remember the name of that one either, but I remember it was pretty funny...
"Pirates of the Carribean"
Oh come on, that was just pure fun, nothing serious to it, it was based on a Disney ride damnit. Popcorn fare for a Saturday afternoon.
Sometimes we over analyze.
On the other hand, Murphy's Haunted Mansion was a poor attempt to catch the wave.
I have to add that although I loved "Blue Velvet" when it came out, I'd rate it a lot lower nowadays. Watched it a couple years back and the magic was most decidedly gone.
Phila | Email | Homepage | 06.05.05 - 12:56 am | #
I feel that way "Blue Velvet", too. And a lot of the Coen Bros. films (although I Still love "the Hudsucker Proxy").
Pixie, I loved "Clueless", but after the 10th time, well, it just lost something.
I loved "The Point" when I was a kid. I still have the album around somewhere.
Maybe it's just me, but I hated 2001.
My vote: The Royal Tenenbaums.
The only saving grace of this incredibly dumbass movie was that because it was so overhyped, i had to sit in the very back (top?) of the theatre right under the projector...which gave it a slight 8mm home movie quality to it.
Still sucked, tho.
Shadowlands, 84 Charing Cross Road and Remains of the Day.
"Wild at heart" is nuch better than "Blue Velvet".
BlakNo1
I'll buy you a drink any day, friend...but let's not go to any movies together, eh? "Wild at Heart" is one of the worst goddamn things anyone's ever made! I actually thought Lynch had gotten CJD from eating at Bob's Big Boy...
oh, Atrios,
When John Goodman is walking down a flaming hallway with a shotgun, someone, somewhere needs to say "where did we go wrong?"
And I'll stick up for "O Brother, Where Art Thou?", though I think John Goodman sucks in that, too. And I like him as an actor, but something about he and the Coens together gives me the willies.
I didn't care for The Coens at all until "Lebowski", and that movie is great!
BlakNo1 |
Raising Arizona - was there ever a better cast movie, and the Coen bros. dialog was priceless.
"Now Hy, back a few years ago when my semen went bad, me and the misses..."
Starship Troopers: Great but Hate
The shower sequences were good; nothing else was worth filming.
Favorite Coen Bros flicks are O Brother, Where Art Thou? and Fargo.
I second that...
Anyone here like Jacob's Ladder?
Field of Dreams. I have a history with that piece of shit. It broke up a budding romance when a girl friend took to the movie, and I just laughed. She decided I wasn't "spiritual." It opened her eyes to the fact I'm irreligious as a rock.
Perhaps because of this, I once wrote a column that consisted of the testimony of different Iowans for -- but mostly against == the fields at a planning commission meeting.
Predictably, some woman wrote me that I missed the point. It wasn't about parking, sewage, dust control, traffic or noise; it was spiritual.
Who is going to be here next week for "Hammerhead, Shark Frenzy ?"
the Harry Nilsson movie "the point" seemed quite profound on acid.
Even more so straight. A movie I can't seem to find for my kid. Everyone is special in his or her way.
O' Brother is Homer. Not sure what Fargo is, Sally.
Forgot to mention: I also think "Silence of the Lambs" was overrated. Maybe if I'd seen it in a theater, I would've been more impressed.
Hoyt, it was U Turn.
Don't understand all the scorn being heaped on "American Beauty." It was one of the most delightfully subversive films to ever come out of mainstream hollywood.
Worse than "Plan 9 from Outer Space."
That's a movie that is definately in the "so bad it's good" category. For a minute by minute list of all the technical mistakes in it, this
">list is rather amusing.
I like the Salinger Connection in Field of Crap
the two best films to watch on acid are The Hills Have Eyes and Raging Bull. just try it sometime, you'll see!
Eyes Wide Shut
The English Patient
Any and all things Woody Allen
The Jodie Foster movie based on the true gang-rape story, I've blocked the title from my mind!
Beaches
What's that angel movie by Wim Wenders? I didn't like that, either.
Revenge of the Sith. Duh.
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is near the top of my to re-watch list
Well, I can see no one's going to answer my dividend question...
And I've got to get back to work.
So goodnight, y'all!
I liked jacob's ladder, very disturbing
Phila:
That would be "Wings of Desire," a lot of critics love it (me, too), but I know plenty of people who think it's the most boring thing they've ever seen.
One more for the list (preparing to duck tomatoes):
*Spirited Away
Serious letdown for me - just thought it was bizarre and not that inventive; too much hype maybe. Maybe it was the lousy voiceover actors. Can't these studios hire somebody decent?
Anyone here like Jacob's Ladder?
Yeah.
"Like" is a strong word though.
"Disturbing" is more accurate.
Anything Tom Cruise is releasing this summer. I'm truly starting to worry about his mental health and I don't think an extra vitamin is going to work.
Sometimes I can just get into the acting. Silence of the lambs was good for that.
William Hurt in Kiss of the Spider Woman was primo
Anyone here like Jacob's Ladder?
Oh yes. Creepy as fuck. And the bathtub scene.
nashville is a great movie
Yes it is... As is "McCabe & Mrs. Miller," & to a lesser extent, "Short Cuts" and "Gosford Park." But when Altman sucks, he does so with gusto..
Over-rated? Lessee..
"A Beautiful Mind"
"Mystic River" - Decent genre piece - but "Masterpiece"? Please..
David Cronenberg in general (Rented the Criterion "Videodrome" recently, unwatchable..)
And it hate to say it,but "Eyes Wide Shut."
Oh, yeah, "The Royal Tenenbaums." I didn't even bother to see that, being as that I suffered through "Rushmore."
Oh, and I adore Fargo. I'll bet most people who have problems with it are male (just a guess).
The Asian guy wasn't her ex-lover, he was a creepy stalker, and she was amazingly graceful dealing with him. I love Frances McDormand.
The shower sequences were good; nothing else was worth filming.
someone has a thing for denise richards. someone has a thing for denise richards.
The Accused, The jodie foster pic
des
The Accused wasn't it?
I agree
Oh, Herzog sucks too. Except for "KAsper Hauser," which was pretty good. And I liked things about "Nosferatu."
The ending sucked (no pun intended)--it was a "hollywood" ending tacked onto what was a fairly faithful remake of the Murnau version. Although, I suppose he was just being nihilistic.
Beautiful and scary to look at and the music is amazing.
i think i might have seen the hills have eyes on acid. this was another rural cannibal flick right?
The Jodie Foster movie based on the true gang-rape story, I've blocked the title from my mind!
The Accused.
Anyone here like Jacob's Ladder?
Yeah.
"Like" is a strong word though.
"Disturbing" is more accurate.
I think Deer Hunter tops my list for that catagory
I just watched "Howard's End" by Merchant/Ivory and it's a masterpiece.
"The English Patient" may have some flaws like the fatal lack of chemistry between the two leads, but it has the best musical score since "Ben Hur."
abyssgazer
Thanks for mentioning Pretty Woman (I think) -- a movie so bad I had completely forgotten its awfulness.
*Spirited Away
Serious letdown for me - just thought it was bizarre and not that inventive; too much hype maybe. Maybe it was the lousy voiceover actors. Can't these studios hire somebody decent?
Adam M
Yeah, I felt that way about all the Ghibli stuff...
I thought "Magnolia" was pretty overrated, although I've liked all that guy's other movies...
But what do I know...
'Night!
I liked Cronenbergs attempt at Naked Lunch, he also did a Kafka film I want to see again.
Of recent movies (which I haven't seen much of, being a parent now), I'd have to say The Incredibles. But that is nothing, nothing compared to The English Patient. I thought the book was not bad, but whatever was decent and compelling and provocative about the book was just completely undermined by the movie and its change of the whole last part. What a monstrosity. And Ondaatje just pimped himself once he saw it was going to be a hit.
Favorite Coen Bros flicks are O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Definately, and the soundtrack's even better. Got me to start listening to bluegrass.
I'll tell you the most evil movie I've ever seen:
Salo, 120 days of Sodom by Pier Paolo Pasolini.
Do not go see this movie. Even if you like to be 'challenged' by a film.
It's not 'bad' in the sense that most of the movies discussed here are bad: it's bad in the sense that you ask, Dear God, why didn't stop this guy from doing this film?'
And I'm not being cute.
Toonscribe
Julia Roberts is to Acting as Celine Dion is to Singing.
Stencil--Hammerhead, Shark Frenzy, is in 2 weeks. Something else next week. I would not miss any opportunity to see a large creature devour idiot cast members.
I agree. The Accused was just too much for me. Didn't need to be so graphic. When I see it scheduled I block the channel. Too disturning.
That's not really bluegrass mattF, it's a broader genre and excellent music
The ending sucked (no pun intended)--it was a "hollywood" ending tacked onto what was a fairly faithful remake of the Murnau version.
Exactly my feelings. Some beautiful stuff in it, otherwise.
OK, now I'm REALLY leaving. [/ted smith]
GAHHHHHHH!!!!!! I loved Throne Of Blood!!
Sanjuro is one I have to see once a year.
Disturbing category:
Once saw Clock Work Orange and Deliverance as a double feature...stoned out of my mind.....that was disturbing.
Sucked: Forest Gump, any Mel Gibson (sans Mad Max stuff), don't get Star Wars' appeal, LOTR...I usually don't see the big blockbusters like Titanic unless there is a special appeal.
Loved:
Pulp Fiction
Big Lebowski
Shawshank Redemption
Blues Bros.
Animal House
Being There
Dr. Strangelove
howard's end was ok, but room with a view still makes me want to poke my eyes out...
The Hills Have Eyes, HA, forgot all about that one, bizarre fucking movie. Who remembers, " Last House in the Left", "Motel Hell" and "The Other". That's some scarry shit there.
Jacob's Ladder didn't do anything for me.
But I forgot my most recent hated movie--"Mystic River". The horror. It was just plain stupid.
I loved "Scanners" and "Videodrome", although the latter doesn't date all that well. "Existenz" was horrible.
The Accused wasn't it?
Bingo! Horrible. I suppose she acted it well an all, but jeebus!
Glad someone mentioned "Boxing Helena" already but how about "Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia"?
"The Onion Field" had to top the charts for the most unatractive cast members in the darkest picture ever filmed! Gave me the creeps for weeks!
True Romance...
And you get to see the making of Tony Soprano
Here are two films that I don't know if they were highly lauded, but spend more than 30 seconds watching and you sucked in until the end: "Convoy" and my personal favorite "Flash Gordon."
Denise Richards wasn't in the shower scene in "Starship Troopers." Dina Meyer was, but that didn't save the movie by any means.
I'll tell you the most evil movie I've ever seen:
Salo, 120 days of Sodom by Pier Paolo Pasolini.
Do not go see this movie. Even if you like to be 'challenged' by a film.
It's not 'bad' in the sense that most of the movies discussed here are bad: it's bad in the sense that you ask, Dear God, why didn't stop this guy from doing this film?'
And I'm not being cute.
Gah.
Pasolini was a nutter.
("I can't eat the rice!")
I think I know one of the worst movies of all time.....think now...what movie nearly destroyed Lea Thompson's career completely?
What movie was hyped by Burger King for kid's meals but was so revolting that it became a 40 million dollar flop before the avertising cycle for the movie ran out leaviung Burger King holding the bag?
Venture a guess?
Remember, Howard the Duck?
BlakNo1,
Tron also doesn't date well.
Deliverance was well made and it's nice that I can get the references made to it, but there's no way in hell I'm ever watching it again.
Definately, and the soundtrack's even better. Got me to start listening to bluegrass.
Matt F | Email | Homepage | 06.05.05 - 1:08 am | #
I was really put off by Ralph Stanley's voice coming from the KKK guy.
the accused
casablanca.
except for the "usual suspects" line.
-J.T>
Blood Simple
Cohen Bros
Thier first and best!
An art of a movie!
What films should be.
.
The Horse Whisper.
Some faves:
Sling Blade
The Truman Show
The Usual Suspects
L.A. Confidential
Three Days of the Condor
Chinatown
Tootsie
The Sting
Sleuth
The Godfather
Amazing about Cruise. Scientologists. Wingnuts.
The Asian guy wasn't her ex-lover, he was a creepy stalker, and she was amazingly graceful dealing with him.
You miss my point. I don't care how she handled it. I cared (or tried to care) about the kidnapping.
As for gender/orientation, I refuse to reveal, though the roommate who rented it, she hated it too.
Favorite Coen Bros flicks are O Brother, Where Art Thou?
You and the BTK Killer. Speaking of which, why doesn't anyone publicize the fact that this guy was a frigging Republican? If he voted for Kerry, I guarantee you we'd hear about it from the Little Green Snotballs Wehrmacht.
Deliverance: Otis, The Beginning.
Tron also doesn't date well.
Tron is the shiznit!
Tron was a fun watch on DVD, but it's quite silly.
boilerman10,
I don't think we're officially allowed to discuss Howard the Duck unless steve smels is here....
Scanners, in my humble opinion, is the greatest exploding head flick of all time. and bring me the head of alfredo gracia epitomized what Warren Oates was all about.
That was bluegrass, in Deliverance.
Eli,
that Raiders movie just played in new york city...missed it though...here's a cool article about it: link.
Salo, 120 days of Sodom by Pier Paolo Pasolini
the second year I was a graduate teaching assistant I taught a FYC course on Sade/Donne. 4 weeks of Donne sonnets, and theoria by Cixous and Irigary. then 12 weeks reading Philosophy in the Bedroom and Justine. we used the Pasolini film to break up the monotony of reading all that French critical secondary material(Barthes, Koslowski, etc)on Sade.
got some great small group projects out of that class.
Nothing But Trouble didn't make the top 100 worst? This is an outrage!
There was a Mickey Roarke movie something like "Johnny Valentine" or something Johnny heart. A real trip.
Forgot about "Cinema Paradiso" -- utter, gooey, unconvincing garbage, showing clips of great films that I'd much, much rather be watching than this saccharine piece of crap.
But I'm very surprising at the negativity toward "Aguirre." -- a sensational film from beginning (sedan chairs winding their way through the Andes mist) to end (Aguirre on the raft surrounded by the dead and roving monkeys). And Conquistatores speaking German -- wonderful touch.
Johnny heart
"Angel Heart", I enjoyed that.
Chicago -- oofah!
Ron Brynaert,
Why are you stalking des?
The Asian guy wasn't her ex-lover, he was a creepy stalker, and she was amazingly graceful dealing with him.
"You a super lady, Marge! I always like you."
She was the epitome of class after she found out he had recently stalked the woman whom he said he married and had recently died.
It was Pasolini's last film.
He was murdered by an extra on the film.
It may have been because they were having an affair, but it also may have been because of the movie. Hard to say.
But 'Gah' is right.
angelheart
I was really put off by Ralph Stanley's voice coming from the KKK guy.
I hadn't heard Ralph Stanley before that, so it wasn't as much of a shock for me. It was kind of interesting seeing Stanley at the Smithsonian Folklife Festival in 2003, though, since I had been introduced to him as a KKK leader.
Really nice guy though, invited me up on his bus to talk for a few minutes after he performed. Very down to earth person.
Starship Trooper completely sucks -- even the shower scene can't save it. Didn't anyone filming that movie think that the crack starship troopers might actually have something like, oh, I don't know, tactics when engaging in combat?
I have a sort of fetish for French film, I have to say, The Return of Martin Guerre, Danton (both Depardieu), and, my all-time fave, Diva.
johhny Angel and another one called angel heart
I saw Milhous and Idi Amin Dada back-to-back. Pumpkins and crocodiles. Both Dick-tators, too.
angelheart
pretzelattack
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right on
Angel heart was the one with DeNiro as the devil Louis Cypher
I have a sort of fetish for French film, I have to say, The Return of Martin Guerre, Danton (both Depardieu), and, my all-time fave, Diva.
NYMary
Watch Chabrol's "La Rupture" sometime...completely delirious.
Denise Richards wasn't in the shower scene in "Starship Troopers." Dina Meyer was, but that didn't save the movie by any means.
you're right. after I posted that I thought about it and realized what a boob my small joke was.
still, the sign of a great director is the undecideability of the diegesis. is Verhoeven making an anti-fascist parable or celebrating fascist dystopia?
Oh, and GI Jane, but then, I've never bothered to watch it so does it count?
Lisa Bonet was lookin' purdy sexy in Angelheart...when she wasn't covered in blood.
I think the other Rourke film might be Johnny Handsome.
1. Raging Bull - two of the most unpleasant hours of my life (that honor would have gone to New York, New York but I walked out.) It is at the top of the list because of the reverence in which it is held by most critics.
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey - a sustained insult to the intelligence of the viewer. Provocative in the worst sense. Any movie of which it may be said "Well, it is better if you've read the book" is by definition a crappy movie.
3. Nashville - I love Altman when he embraces his characters (Cookie's Fortune, Mash) but when he is in full snark mode (Nashville, The Wedding) he can be extremely ham-handed and what is worse, boring.
All-time favorite: Truffaut's The 400 Blows.
mickey also did a film called johnny angel, were right on both counts.
The other one I aboslutely hated with a vengence was "Magnolia."
I wanted to claw my brain out after seeing that movie3.
And why is it that some gay director just make bad fictional gay filss? "The MO of MI" (aka The Modus Operandi of Male Intimacy) was a horrible horrible horrible film...I was glad i only spent like $2.00 renting it at blockbuster.
Oh yeah..and "Hedwig and the Angry Itch."
No ones mentioned any of the 007 flicks.
All bad IMO.Not sure I can pick one that is worthy of picking out as even decent.
Watch Chabrol's "La Rupture" sometime...completely delirious.
Phila
Can do! You know I trust your taste.
NYMary, thanks, I had no idea Steve had to be here.
but, I will never forget Lea thompson about to "surrender" to the duck, putting a whole new twist on "go f--- a duck." In that scene was the near complete ruin of her career.
maybe eli, it's about an ugly guy, a criminal who gets a new face and goes straight.
RESPECT THE COCK!!!
Angel heart was the one with DeNiro as the devil Louis Cypher.
I had to sleep with my mommy for a few days after watching that movie. Only in the last 3 minutes did I put everything together. I needed a little mother holding after that one. To this day she still teases me about runing into room and jumping into and crying about the movie she told me not to watch.
sorry about the last post....contacts were dry...couldn't see what i was typing
No ones mentioned any of the 007 flicks.
Well, those are almost supposed to be bad. If you try to take them seriously they really are quite ridiculous.
maybe eli, it's about an ugly guy, a criminal who gets a new face and goes straight.
Yep, Johnny Handsome.
Four Rooms...
I've got this on my list to see again.
Hmmm...nobody dissed any Wenders films...
SIN CITY.
I think it was less the film than that at every scene in which a woman got smacked, the toothless scumbag behind me high-fived his kid.
But still, it sucked. I love Brittany Murphy and Clive Owen and Rosario ... but still, it sucked. I don't get all het up about film violence ordinarily, but it was so bad it actually made me angry.
And I fucking hate Charlie Kaufman and his self-conscious, ooh, lookit me I'm so "out there" watch me write scripts about annoying sweaty people and everybody will say I'm a genius! act. Mr. Athenae loves him but I refuse to see any more of his self-indulgent nonsense. He's boring.
A.
oh deniro
Hmmm...nobody dissed any Wenders films...
No, someone dissed Wings Of Desire.
Hmmm...nobody dissed any Wenders films...
Nûr al-Cubicle
I did.
Ron Brynaert,
Why are you stalking des?
Seconded.
Whats up with making someones life miserable?
every film ever made has been dissed by someone
Good night my princesses and princes of Eschaton. And may you first movie be a masculine movie.
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey - a sustained insult to the intelligence of the viewer. Provocative in the worst sense. Any movie of which it may be said "Well, it is better if you've read the book" is by definition a crappy movie.
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People were so gaw gaw over it and I did say then I felt Insulted by that film.
I feel that Apocalypse now is one most should see. But no one should have to sit through the redux version.
All-time favorite: Truffaut's The 400 Blows.
Raging Bull and Nashville are two great films, sir. the French New Wave (with the exception of the political Godard) is to suck, sir.
take the brown acid, watch the Hills Have Eyes, and call your optometrist in the morning, sir.
'nite monica
For me, "the English Patient" was the ultimate example of a film outlasting it's welcome.
Some critically acclaimed films I actively dislike...
"Braveheart" - a second rate "Spartacus" rip-off. Mel's death scene was particularly excruciating.
"Wag the Dog"
"Being There" - two films of the pretentious "aren't we being clever?" school of filmmaking.
"Exotica" - boring as hell
"Rainman" - like fingernails on a chalkboard
Yep , Johnny Handsome. Angel Heart was a much better film. Johnny Handsome was easily forgettable.
Really nice guy though, invited me up on his bus to talk for a few minutes after he performed. Very down to earth person.
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Neat!
An awful lot of people bought that soundtrack, though, and it bothers me that they would visualize that scene when they hear the song. It was such a spare, raw performance--an inappropriate and disrespectful choice, imo.
But I actually liked the movie, overall.
"My hair!"
Re: Starship Troopers.
The story by Heinlin was ok.It had much more science to it.The movie was pitiful.In the book they have antigrav suits that allow them to "bounce",which the movie completely left out.
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
or as I refer to it:
Crushing Boredom, Hidden Logic"
-Toonscribe
FINALLY. FINALLY SOMEONE ADMITS IT. A generic Wuxia b-film becomes the first of its kind to premiere in the U.S., and everybody goes cuckoo bananas over it.
Oh, and what was the name of that fantasy type movie with faeries and Tom Cruise? I think he played a faerie, actually. That made me want to poke my eyeballs out.
Lest I forget, did y'all see the Iraq war song I wrote?
http://greatscat.blogspot.com/20...ou-know-
it.html
NYMary
My favorite Depardieu film of all time is Going Places -- a thoroughly raunchy, despicable film. Leaving the theater I turned to my two friends, who hated it, and remarked "life is a bad French movie."
I feel that Apocalypse now is one most should see. But no one should have to sit through the redux version.
The original is definately better for people who have never seen it, but some of the added scenes were interesting, like the one in the French guy's house. Dragged on for a while, but it goes into the political situation and the history more than the first version did. Redux is almost painfully long, though.
I didn't care for Lost in Translation -- spent the whole two hours wondering when something was going to happen. But it was pretty to look at.
First movie I remember being really pissed off at: Altered States with William Hurt. The hype made me think it was going to change my life, yada yada -- and what was the message? Love conquers all. Hell, I coulda watched a Fred Astaire movie on Channel 9 and (1) saved eight bucks and (2) had a good time to get that message. Boy, did I feel ripped off.
But I did like Witches of Eastwick. Jack Nicholson can come chew up my scenery any time. (What was the one just lately, him and Diane Keaton, whom I ordinarily can't stand? That was a pretty good flick. But Keanu Reeves as the hot young cardiologist who graciously bows out when he sees that she really loves nasty ol' Jack? Please!)
Oh, and what was the name of that fantasy type movie with faeries and Tom Cruise? I think he played a faerie, actually. That made me want to poke my eyeballs out.
Legend.
The one movie I wish I had seen in the theater is The Last of the Mohicans...
What was the one just lately, him and Diane Keaton, whom I ordinarily can't stand?
Something's Gotta Give.
Hated with the fire of a thousand suns:
Fatal Attraction
Gangs of New York
Last Tango
Interview with the Vampire
Wild at Heart
Magnolia
Passion of the Christ
Star Wars I and II
Leaving Las Vegas
Bored to distraction:
About Schmidt
The Piano
Traffic
Deer Hunter
Eternal Sunshine
Recent pleasant surprise:
The Upside of Anger
Star Wars III (except for the acting and dialogue)
Diva was wonderful, sublime, but it was the last good thing Beneix ever did.
Betty Blue was a misogynistic piece of crap, and The Moon in the Gutter was no better.
Drop Dead Gorgeous...
anyone....
anyone....
Oh, and what was the name of that fantasy type movie with faeries and Tom Cruise? I think he played a faerie, actually. That made me want to poke my eyeballs out.
I actually lilke Legend.I think it was the sound track.The singer from Yes did that and I really dug it.
I liked Lost In Translation because of Scarlet. I have always had a crush on the girl with the pearl earring. The real one, in the Vermeer. But Scarlet, too
Hated - Fargo
Will watch whenever it's on - Victor/Victoria
Some Like it Hot.
The town I lived in has a film library so they projected possibly the most incomprehensible film ever...on Japanese Maoists in their university days.
Plus a 3-hour film by a Russian director about the Mongol invasions with some factual, dreadful torture scenes from which I still have not recovered, supposedly a favorite of Scorcese...and the Uzbek president.
Only happy ending films for me from now on. Like a dry martini.
Chariots of Fire. Not only was it incredibly boring, but, when making a movie about a guy who runs, it's always important to not cast the slowest, dorkiest running guy who ever lived.
You know, you might want to cast a guy who doesn't run like he's got a pantload.
des
I like it.
Send the Twins...Yeah
Betty Blue was a misogynistic piece of crap, and The Moon in the Gutter was no better.
Betty Blue got off to such a promising start, and then became utterly boring and annoying.
Drop Dead Gorgeous...
I actually thought the first hour was surprisingly funny, but then it just completely lost momentum and sank like a stone.
Elenor rigby,
"The Gael" played ceaselessly through the Last of the Mohicans.
Like "Suo Gan" did in Empire of the Sun.
If the music had some more budget for a wider variety of music, LOTM might have been better in my estimation. You can only tolerate so much bagpipe of "the Gael' for so long. then you wish a gale would come and drown out the blare and din.
Chariots of Fire. Not only was it incredibly boring, but, when making a movie about a guy who runs, it's always important to not cast the slowest, dorkiest running guy who ever lived.
Yeah, did nothing for me either. I ran cross country, yet the movie evoked nothing for me.
For a movie that really captures the poetry of its sport, I think my first choice would be Eight Men Out. I loved those baseball sequences, especially the rookie pitcher with the funky delivery.
likedrymartini's, japanese Maoists have important things to tell us.
For sports movies my favorite is Hoosiers
Has anyone here seen "king of hearts"
I actually lilke Legend.I think it was the sound track.The singer from Yes did that and I really dug it.
I didn't know that. If I catch it on the tele maybe I'll give it another shot just to here the soundtrack.
Oh and other favorite sport movie is Breaking Away
Best Sports Movie - Slap Shot.
I've re-watched Grosse Point Blank a few times..
The Upside of Anger was the worst movie I have ever actually sat through.
Has anyone here seen "king of hearts"
magnolia's propaganda ministry
Yes if that is the one where the people in mental hospital are more sane than rest of the world or something like that
Scout prime,
Hoosiers is very good, but didn't see it until last year, and then on DVD.
thanks for reminding me, I had forgotten that one.
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Good night, see you all later today.
The Grifters was good
scout - Breaking Away was great.
Deliverance scared me more than most horror movies ever did. But then, I was down in West Virginia a lot in those days, a long-haired hippie in a '54 VW, and while mostly I was met with friendliness and openess, there were a few times I was in fear of a beating or worse while down in Southern Virginia and West Virgina.
I can't say I've got a super duper favorite movie, there's so many that I'll watch again and again, othes I'm glad I saw, but wouldn't repeat. It depends on my mood. I'm about to do a week long Western movies marathon instead of watching tv repeats. Got "Pat Garrett", 'The Man From Laramie', "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" and 'Little Big Man', Mr Red gets to pick titles too, still mullling over another 4-5 titles for the doubleheader.
After that, it's time for the SF fest starting as always with "Forbidden Planet", and then maybe movie musicals...
ah, summertime, and all the lazy nights with himself, watching old movies and talking about how we saw these films when we were kids. It's going to be a lot of basic family fun.
But really, stay away from Zardoz. Even if you are a Sean Connery fan.
Ok, anyone dissing The Player will have to answer to me. I just love that flick.
Star Wars, from best to worst:
Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
Revenge of the Sith
Return of the Jedi
Attack of the Clones
The one with lots of Jar-Jar
Other good movies no one has bothered to mention yet:
The Manchurian Candidate
Seven Days in May
Apocalypse Now
2001: A Space Odyssey
Spartacus
The Bridge on the River Kwai
Lawrence of Arabia
Really terrible movies:
Rollerball the remake
Anything that Bruckenheimer asswipe had anything to do with
All "Left Behind" crap
And can i say that It's hard for me to hate a movie?
I'm easy to please, I liked the Star Wars movies, and even The English Patient and the Piano. For me, a movie has to be abrasively bad.
And I'll bid you goodnight, dear moonbats with a gentle admonition:
A decent respect for the opinions of the rest of mankind might well be taken to delare a moratorium on Americans proclaiming things "boring!"
Just Sayin'.
Night, all!
Dancer in the Dark
What's wrong with the English Patient?
Best War Movie?
anyone....
anyone...
What's wrong with the English Patient?
Some sort of illness.
Zardoz is great! Especially with a tab or two, maybe three.
Yes if that is the one where the people in mental hospital are more sane than rest of the world or something like that
scout prime
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Yep-King of Hearts
Gene Hackman is good in everything...
I thought he was awful in "The Birdcage." In general, he's not good in broad comedies, although his cameo in "Young Frankenstein" is good.
He is, though, often very good in dreck. I thought he gave an absolutely great performance in "The Firm." He looks desiccated, and seems like someone who has trapped himself in a rotten life with no exit.
"The Firm" is an odd movie, because there are many good actors firing on all cylinders (Holly Hunter, David Straithairn) and yet, the movie stinks. Still, you have to cherish the moment where Wilford Brimley is blackmailing Cruise and says, "Not just screwing, Mitch. All sorts of intimate acts, oral and whatnot, that can be particularly hard for a trusting wife to forgive and IMPOSSIBLE to forget."
Best war movie? It depends. Are we talkin modern period or...
Best War Movie?
i know im too late for this, but any merchant and ivory glacier(big, white, moves slowly).
Lawrence of Arabia was an important movie
So was Garp, but I can't remeber why
What's wrong with the English Patient?
Some sort of illness.
Thersites
He's English, too.
Breaking Away and Hoosiers were both excellent -- Hoosiers particularly impressed me because it was such an accurate picture of a subculture I (gasp) grew up close to. They even had the accents right, except of course for the name stars, and they explained them away pretty well.
Which leads to another important question. Gene Hackman is *always* working, and sometimes he takes on some pretty sucky projects. Now, considering the wide range of his oeuvre, has Gene Hackman ever sucked in *anything*? I think not! How can this be?
Let me recommend an Italian movie, "I'm Not Scared."
Best war movies are Dungeons & Dragons, and Paths of Glory.
magnolia's propaganda ministry
Can you tell me again the storyline of King of Hearts...seem to be forgeting.
Did they get free during war? So pointed to insanity of war?
Dammit, some people have to be hit upside the head with a stick.
Starship Troopers is fantastic satire. It's a total sendup of wartime propaganda films, and casting Doogie Howser as the head Nazi was brilliance incarnate.
I have no doubt that Commander Cuckoo Bananas loves it for all the wrong reasons.
Anything that Bruckenheimer asswipe had anything to do with
I liked The Ref, but that's about it
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to admit that I liked Top Gun
Best war movie-The Alamo
Best war movie? Apocalypse Now or The Great Escape.
A decent respect for the opinions of the rest of mankind might well be taken to delare a moratorium on Americans proclaiming things "boring!"
anal penetration of Iraqi boys while their mothers watched: BORING!
urinating on sacred scripture: BORING!
Stan Lee's percentage on the next Avi Arad pic: STOP THE PRESSES!
Lawrence of Arabia, good war movie.
Also the one with Mel Gibson, damn, the name escapes me. WWI ...Gallipoli
Breaker Morant
The Light Horse
Many of the films that got way too many Oscars, like
Titanic
Gladiator
Ben Hur
Lord of the Rings
Gone With the Wind
Didn't watch "Braveheart", "The Patriot" and various other Mel Gibson efforts (although I in fact liked his "Hamlet") knowing I would not like them.
Was "Gods and Generals" critically acclaimed? (I really think quite highly of "Gettysburg", but the propaganda piece that is "G&G" just stinks).
Wow, you guys move fast.
Best war movie: Bridge on the River Kwai.
Best War Movie?
The General
So was Garp, but I can't remeber why
Maybe the funniest part of any movie I ever saw was when Garp and his new wife were out house shopping and a plane crashes into the house,Garp says "Ill take it,do you know the odds of another plane hitting this house?"
I may have an odd sense of humor,but that line still gets me to rolling.
True, Gary. Most people don't get Starship Troopers.
smalfish
Thanks for that memory and it has me laughing out loud right now
Best war movie?
Cross of Iron
Castle Keep (a very surreal movie)
The Train
Paths of Glory
Charge of the Light Brigade (1969 version with David Hemmings -- or by "war movie" do you mean 20th century?)
shrek.
movies that i have been able to watch more than once....
kagemusha
the year of living dangerously
the last temptation of christ
the ipcress file
funeral in berlin
the billion dollar brain
charlie mufffin
the spy who came in from the cold
chushingura
Garp is kind of a war movie, When Johnny Comes Marching Home? was that the dalton trumbo script that he was blacklisted for? About the quad amputee?
no, no not even lsd can redeem Zardoz.
Now 'Performance', that was a movie that rocked on a few red flying saucer blotters.
I can lost in those 'sweeping epic' type films like "Lawrence", "Dr Zhivago", stuff like that. But those are best in good theatres with good sound. Not a lot of places do rep film out here. Ah, for the dear old Circle theatre, where a dollar could get you 4-6 hours of movies and airconditioned comfort on a brutal July afternoon. Got a lot of my film 'education' from the Circle and the Biograph back in the day.
Best war movie?
I'd have to say Plattoon
ok, I've changed my mind after seeing the TCM trailer. Best War Movie? Duck Soup.
The school in Garp is my high school... Also the riding academy in Regarding Henry.
Ah, Breaking Away. A great movie. I have had a long non-sexual crush on Dennis Quaid since seeing that movie. He is usually great when he is playing men who are in over their heads, rattled. When he tries to play "slick," he's boring.
Speaking of movie crushes, I had a huge crush on Elizbeth McGovern after seeing "Ordinary People." A pure fantasy girl for the troubled and confused teenage boy.
it's officially my birthday now, but I just found out that I'm the age that I thought I was a year ago.
Anyway, goodnight all
Husband's pics, best war movies:
The Sand Peebles
The Sands of Iwo Jima
Platoon
Mine remains The Guns of Navarone.
The General? Not the irish gangster film based a the real gangster?
A decent respect for the opinions of the rest of mankind might well be taken to delare a moratorium on Americans proclaiming things "boring!"
Hey, have you folks heard that CNN has a new missing white woman featured on their website?
Oh, and "Triumph of the Will". As someone put it "Riefenstahl makes the most of some camera angles she stole from Fritz Lang". And the thing just goes on and on. Yet some people act as if she reinvented documentary filmmaking...
happy birthday Matthew!
The General? Not the irish gangster film based a the real gangster?
Presumably the Buster Keaton Civil War train movie.
full metal jacket
(still joined the corps)
-J.T.
Nick,
no. the Keaton Civil War film.
Ibrahim al-Jaafari -
What can I say to someone who would rather spend time with Jake La Motta than Antoine Doinel? I am saddened. But obviously you are not unique in your perverse cinematic tastes.
As for 2001: A Space Odyssey, I reiterate: a ponderous, pretentious snooze-fest.
Most people don't get Starship Troopers.
Nick Dixon |
And some people only get stuff if it's overdone ham-fisted hackery.
my favorite war movies
Operation Petticoat
The Pink Submarine
Father Goose
South Pacific
different list if I want to see stuff get blown up and bodies ripped to shreds
Riefenstahl
I hope she is in a special place in hell. She denied to the end her role in Nazi Germany
Scout-I can't really remember because it has been so long ago. I remember schizophrenics wandering through an abandoned village, making so much sense relating to the material world that they had been cut off from. They seemed to know how to care for each other. The village had been abandoned because of an impending enemy attack, I think. They dressed in great costumes. Visual delight.
I figured Starship Troopers couldn't be anything but parody with a title like that.
Have I mentioned how much I hated "The Prince of Tides"? Why yes I have, but I'll mention it again. When Nick Nolte wound up sobbing like a baby in Barbra Streisands arms after releasing his "repressed memory" I think that I projectile vomited on the next 10 rows of movie patrons.
most of what hollywood puts out IS hamfisted hackery
patch adams
best war movies:
"Attack" with Eddie Albert as George Bush.
lol, Happy Birthday Matthew! G'nite.
You have to read the original Heinlein novel sally, You like Sci Fi, right?
I haven't seen "Betty Blue," but in college we used to recite the bad preview. Must be said in French accent: "I had known Betty for a week. We made love every night. The forecast was for storms." Or something like that.
Advance to the rear with glenn ford
Mine: 'The English Patient' and 'Citizen Kane'
starship troopers, the novel, is a poly si book.
-J.T.
Forrest Gump
English Patient -
Scent of A Woman - hoooah that sucked - Pacino was in Glen Gary Glen Ross the same year - fantastic movie that the public seemed to completely miss due to that provocatively named stinker of a movie.
A Beautiful Mind
"I had known Betty for a week. We made love every night. The forecast was for storms."
The old Ben Stiller show had one of the funniest parodies of pretentious French movies I've ever seen.
I start laughing every time I think about it.
What can I say to someone who would rather spend time with Jake La Motta than Antoine Doinel? I am saddened. But obviously you are not unique in your perverse cinematic tastes.
Ibrahim is the name my spouse answers to. butt yes, my taste is very perverse. I prefer shorter Brakhage to longer Brakhage, and Keaton to Chaplin, and mid-period Scorsese and Kubrick to early and late period.
you wanna make something of it
Good acting in "Who's afraid of Virginia Woolfe?"
I liked Titanic, this one anywho:
http://www.angryalien.com/0604/
t...nicbunnies.html
G'nite, moonbats, or G'morning as the case may be. Pleasant dreams.
nite des
Out of Africa is my favorite movie. My best friend still hates me for taking her to see it. Go figure.
Nick Dixon--not as much as you'd think. I like Terry Pratchett a lot, but that's hardly scifi. I got rather turned off to it in college; found much of it fascistic and dystopian. But I should try it again.
salo: 120 days of sodom by pasolini. ugh.
Toonscribe, thanks for mentioning Cross of Iron. A truly great war movie, up there with The Bridge on the River Kwai and Paths of Glory, which should be required viewing by all junior officers before they take their first assignments with troops.
I'm sure someone mentioned Full Metal Jacket; it's one of Kubrick's often overlooked films, tossed in the Barry Lyndon pile for reasons I can't fathom.
Enemy at the Gates doesn't get enough credit; the opening scenes of the boats being attacked on the Volga are every bit as intense as the beach landing scenes in Saving Private Ryan. Both films are flawed that way; they start out with scenes of wrenching, riveting intensity that the rest of the film just can't compete with.
magnolia's propaganda ministry
BTW I really like King of Hearts
Best War Movies: The Grand Illusion, All's Quiet on the Western Front, Paths of Glory, Catch 22
Have I mentioned how much I hated "The Prince of Tides"? Why yes I have, but I'll mention it again. When Nick Nolte wound up sobbing like a baby in Barbra Streisands arms after releasing his "repressed memory" I think that I projectile vomited on the next 10 rows of movie patrons.
Another Bruce
Ha ha ha ha
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I wanted to see "Faces" and I took my brother and my boyfriend. By the time it was over my brother's face was all screwed up in screwed up in pain and my boyfriend was loudly snoring.
Enemy at the Gates doesn't get enough credit; the opening scenes of the boats being attacked on the Volga are every bit as intense as the beach landing scenes in Saving Private Ryan.
Especially the part where not all the soldiers had guns and they were instructed to take one from the first dead man.
Is Paths of Glory the one with Kirk Douglas??
My least favorite movie of all time:
"George and Dick's Excellent Military Adventures."
Because they really think it's just a movie.
Night fuzzybats!
Oh, and after having scrolled through the whole thread, here are some more films I hate:
"2001" (although I like most of the other Kubrick films and "Paths of Glory" is my favourite), "Something about Mary" and "Moulin Rouge". I also think that Nicole Kidman is not much of an actress but that is probably just me ..
Enemy at the Gates doesn't get enough credit; the opening scenes of the boats being attacked on the Volga are every bit as intense as the beach landing scenes in Saving Private Ryan.
Especially the part where not all the soldiers had guns and they were instructed to take one from the first dead man.
SWR
And the retreating Russians were shot by their comrades
Heinlein is very popular with wingnuts, freepers and libertarians, but as is usually the case, they miss the point most of the time. Heinlein was a strange fellow. don't let that scare you away. Stranger is a Strange Land, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. He actually started out writing for kids, so some of his fiction may seem juvenile at first. That was his initial market.
Acclaimed but I didn't get into:
Punch Drunk Love. Adam Sandler being slightly less annoying than in everything else he makes is no recommendation.
Rushmore. Couldn't find a way to like it. Flat. "Election" with Reese Witherspoon is a much better high school film.
Pretty Woman. Forrest Gump. To the extent these were acclaimed, they'd get a spot on the list too.
And geez, My Dinner With Andre. No bloody way. I'd much rather see Wallace Shawn say "I switched glasses while your back was turned!"
Best war movie-"The Russians are Coming"
he also did a Kafka film...
Wasn't that Soderberg? Or am I thinking of something else?
And, jeebus, how can I forget "Adaptation?"
Stanley kramer paths of glory, with the kirk
'Matthew', I absolutely LOVED 'Bulworth'!
Best War Movie? Duck Soup.
Not a bad choice. The film is a preview of the Bush administration....
Rufus T. Firefly: Dig trenches, with our men being killed off like flies? There isn't time to dig trenches. We'll have to buy them ready made. Here, run out and get some trenches. Wait a minute, get them this high
[gestures to his chin]
Rufus T. Firefly: and our soldiers won't need any pants. Wait a minute, get them this high
[gestures over his head]
Rufus T. Firefly: and we won't need any soldiers.
Stanley kramer paths of glory, with the kirk
Nick Dixon
That was a great movie
Let's see, acclaimed movies I couldn't stand:
Dances With Wolves
Driving Miss Daisy
Shine
The Ice Storm
As Good As It Gets
I never saw The Blair Witch Project, but I'm reminded of this Chris Rock quote about it: "The Blair Witch Project, made for $60,000. Someone's walking around with $59,000 in their pocket."
"Outside the hospital the war was still going on. Men went mad and were rewarded with medals." Catch-22
oh my stars and garters a great one.
-J.T.
yanno, you could be right lemme google it. soderberg, cronenberg...
nite Sallyh
The Shining?
chocolate covered cottonballs.
Is Paths of Glory the one with Kirk Douglas??
Yes, he's the colonel assigned to defend the soldiers selected at random to be used as examples for the rest of the French Army on the verge of mutiny. George Macready plays the villain and really gets his teeth into it.
the cook, the thief, his wife, and her lover.
and anything with tom hanks in it is pretty much guaranteed to be overhyped bullshit.
Soderbergh did the Kafka flick.
The Russians are Coming"
The Russians are Coming"
The Russians are Coming"
The Russians are Coming"
Everybody off the streets!
Catch-22, another wierd war flick, not great, but weird Castle Keep with Burt Lancaster, and Bruce Dern. See those two on a double bill
Sorry about the dropped "Mrs.", Mrs. al-Jafaari. I too like a lot of Kubrick's mid-career work - in fact, I think he only made two real clinkers in his career (of the ones I've seen, anyway): 2001 and Eyes Wide Shut. Scorcese's tendency to revel in and glorify violence makes his worst films (Raging Bull, Taxi Driver) almost unwatchable for me. The scene in Taxi Driver where he showed a bullet shattering a human hand in operatic slo-mo is one of the most egregiously offensive scenes in cinematic history, IMHO.
Adam Sandler shouldn't have a career. He's not funny at all.
What was the war movie where the Germans and the allies had christmas together, and then had to half heartedly return to fighting.
What that On a Midnight Clear or something like that?
Most of these have been mentioned, but bear seconding (or thirding or whatever): The Deer Hunter, Forrest Gump, the entire Star Wars cycle, Titanic, and The Piano. And has no one mentioned the most overrated film of all time (especially on the internerd) - Se7en???
tom hanks is not a bad actor, by the way. it's just that these days he seems to only appear in big budget hollywood blockbuster type movies.
des -- loved the lyrics. Send the twins, draft the twins ... finally a proposal for Bushie government service I can get behind, even push.
And Happy Birthday, Matthew, what your age or counting skills.
And has no one mentioned the most overrated film of all time (especially on the internerd) - Se7en???
Seven was pretty good. The last scene where Kevin Spacy taunts Brad Pitt has no gore in it at all. It totally depends on the power of his acting.
And any movie where you get to see Gwyneth Paltrow's head cu....Oh wait. I don't hate her anymore, not since she moved to the UK, dissed 'Merka and got Dixie Chicked.
On a midnight clear, and also A Bright Shining Lie
Geez- leave the house for a night and miss a movie thread. One acclaimed movie I wanted to like but just didn't was Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
Well, some people acclaimed it was cheesily good....
I don't know-good war commentary anyway.
unappreciated classic: "silent running" w/ bruce dern as a decent human being.
hewie, dewie, and lewie. great bots long before r2d-whatever.
-J.T.
tom hanks is not a bad actor, by the way. it's just that these days he seems to only appear in big budget hollywood blockbuster type movies.
Oh he was so bad as an East European in "The Terminal". God that movie was bad.
magnolia's propaganda ministry
Yeah it was A Midnight Clear.
That was a good movie
Pretty much any movie that is released on Friday (or Wednesday).
Also most movies that are longer than 120 minutes.
And a lot of movies that are made in America.
Movies that have stars to make them Oscar(r) material. I'm sure Cinderella Man is going to be one of those and therefore, I will probably not see it.
i HATED The Piano!
just sayin'.
I haven't seen it yet, but I heard it was very good. Gunner Palace, Gunner's Palace. Doc made with a unit in Iraq. And not propaganda.
I didn't particularly like Godfather I - it's dishonest. They turn Don Corleone into sort of this Italian Santa Claus with one or two tiny nasty bad habits. I don't even think the film belongs on a top 100 list because of that. OTOH, Godfather II is a fantastic movie and is light years better than the first.
I hate anything David Mamet writes. He's an insufferable ass with a bad attitude and the emotional maturity of a fairly dense and narcissistic fourteen year old boy. Yes, I know how talented he is. No, his sensibilities aren't even in the same galaxy as his abilities.
I think the most fucked up film maker of all time is Sam Peckinpah. He's another one whose abilities far outstrip his sensibilities. The Wild Bunch may be a brilliantly shot and assembled film but Peckinpah's contempt for common decency shines through in every frame. He's another whose film work is ruined by his narcissism.
Yeah The Terminal was really bad.
a bright shining Lie is a good film about nam. True story
Didn't Sam Peckinpah do Bonnie and Clyde?
Band of Brothers was actually pretty damn good. Based on Steven Ambrose's book. True account of the 505 PIR
Nick Dixon
I thought Band of Brothers was excellent
506 para infantry reg. 505, 506 it's 101 AB Div.
I hate anything David Mamet writes. He's an insufferable ass with a bad attitude and the emotional maturity of a fairly dense and narcissistic fourteen year old boy. Yes, I know how talented he is. No, his sensibilities aren't even in the same galaxy as his abilities.
Blech. Overrated as hell. The worst being Oleanna, where they commit one of the cardinal sins of acting - when they're supposed to be interrupted, they pause and *wait* for the interruption. WTF???
And incredibly stilted and unrealistic dialogue. I'm always baffled whenever I read anything about how realistic Mamet's dialogue is.
Titanic. It was a titanic bore.
Yeah The Terminal was really bad.
Americans simply can't play East Europeans. Tom Hanks as an East European almost sounds like a joke.
And the whole premise that he was an East European instead of an Iranian was a cop out.
And the purpose of his ordeal was to get a fucking autograph?
God that movie sucked.
And oh yeah, we were supposed to believe someone who looks like Catherine Zeta Jones would get dissed by a weird Slavic guy and come back for more.
God it sucked.
I love Sam Fuller, BTW.
It was less a work of fiction than saving private ryan
The factual basis for Ryan was the Sullivan bros, but they were in the navy. all four or five of them.
saving p ryan was fiction. But Band of Brothers was very true to those guys story. Also the way they filmed the combat scenes was different. It really heightened the tension...gave the feel of what it must be like.
i didn't see the terminal and i didn't see band of brothers. i just kind of avoid tom hanks. he seems to specialize in very bland, safe movies. that's all.
I love Sam Fuller, BTW.
Seen the director's cut of "The Big Red One" yet? (Just bought from Amazon - haven't watched yet..)
actually, hanks specializes in bland, safe movies which pretend to be cutting edge and thought provoking, now that i think about it. that makes it even more annoying.
ANybody see twelve monkeys?
For a scifi flick I thought it was greatness.
Brad Pitt stole the show,IMO.
actually, hanks specializes in bland, safe movies which pretend to be cutting edge and thought provoking, now that i think about it. that makes it even more annoying.
Philadelphia wasn't bad.
Olaf
But what about Philadelphia??
there should be a thread about a movie we loved the first time, but when we watched it again, we scratched our heads, asked, "What did I ever see in that movie?" I loved "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" the first time, but it wasn't so good the second time.
ANybody see twelve monkeys?
Yes. Depressing as hell but good.
BEST WAR MOVIE....
little big man
and though not technically a movie, a compelling story of postwar reality...
A VERY BRITISH COUP
But what about Philadelphia??
It was strange seeing that on TV. It seemed so dated, the fear and hatred of gays was so quai....oh nevermind.
ANybody see twelve monkeys?
Yes...I like movies about time trvel
Seen the director's cut of "The Big Red One" yet? (Just bought from Amazon - haven't watched yet..)
No, just the regular one.
I wonder if there's a director's cut of Shock Corridor...
and actually hanks made two very funny movies...
one a remake, the man with one red shoe.
the other, volunteers with john candy. probably candy's best.
like movies about time trvel
My all time favorite subject in stories is time travel.I will watch anything tha has time travel as the main premise,good or bad.Unfortunatly most are VERY bad.
Well nite all....there's a big storm brewing here and the power is flickering so before it goes out.....
Yeah The Terminal was really bad.
Well, prepare yourselves - Hanks is the lead in the movie version of "The Da Vinci Code."
Eli,
There's a Criterion Edition of "Shock Corridor," IIRC.. Dunno what the extras are, tho..
There's a Criterion Edition of "Shock Corridor," IIRC.. Dunno what the extras are, tho..
Somehow I think Fuller would be amused as hell by this...
Hanks is the lead in the movie version of "The Da Vinci Code."
Nooooooooooo!
Watching a movie now called Heavens Prisoners.With Alec Baldwin,nothing to do with heaven or prisoners so far.Its been pretty good so far.Action/thriller type flick.
Two of my favorites: "The Big Lebowski" and "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"
Sorry, smalfish - tis true.
Audrey Tatou as the female protagonist.
and on that note, I bid you a good night. room is spinning ever so slightly.
wheeee!
Actually, Saving Private Ryan was based on the Nyland brothers, not the Sullivan brothers.
Arthur Penn made Bonnie and Clyde, not Peckinpah. Peckinpah did the god-awful Straw Dogs, Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, and of course, The Wild Bunch.
Guess that's why I'll never be a critic. I just scanned the IMDB top 250 and I've seen just shy of 75% of them, but I could only come up with two that did nothing for me- Gladiator and Big Fish. I wouldn't say I hated them, they just left me unmoved. All the rest I either enjoyed or found something worthwhile about them. I'm very much in the Ebert school- don't try to compare films but judge the experience on its own terms.
Some other people have mentioned stuff like Salo or the Cremaster cycle. I found the action in Salo disgusting and abhorrent at times, but that's the point. It's a very effective film, but not one I feel a need to see again. Ever. I've seen the whole of the Cremaster series in a theater- some of it is actually brilliantly funny (I actually enjoyed Cremaster 4.) DOn't feel like seeing it again either, but there's no way to compare it to a more conventional film. I do give points when a filmmaker is willing to go out on a limb or try something different- that's one reason I did like Sin City, unlike some here.
BTW, I recall someone here was looking for a copy of Chris Marker's Le Jette on DVD in the original French for his dad last year. Mostly there's only an English-dubbed "official" print, but I did find the original at a place called bijouflix.com. I have it now but had a horrible time with them- they lost my order, kept promising it for weeks, etc. Finally got it though, and it is as promised. There's a couple other experimental short films on it as well: Samuell Beckett's Film and William S. Burrough's Towers Open Fire!. Not bad for $15.
Here I am, all late and shit, but DAMN i hated Moulin Rouge....it worked the last dendrite on my very last nerve.
i saw philadelphia. remember thinking it was pretty good, and have not given it a second thought since. i guess it impressed me, but didn't really stick with me.
loreylynn, with you on pat garret and billy the kid. i really wanted to like it too. i'm a big dylan fan.
For those who may not know, La Jetee (totally fucked that up last time, pardon my French!) is the original inspiration for Terry Gilliam's Twelve Monkeys, which just came out in a new DVD edition a few weeks ago.
The Four Feathers (the "good" one, not the Heath Ledger crap)
American Beauty
As Good As It Gets
Tootsie
Best War Movie?
The one that's already been mentioned over and over again on this thread: Little Big Man.
oh, and i hate oliver stone too. he specializes in taking very interesting subjects and adapting them into tedious movies.
The bible is now available on dvd.
The commercial for it is high-fucking-larious.
Oliver Stone wants to have it both ways. In Platoon, he wants to be anti-war and a war hero. In NBK, he wants to be the final word on McCluhan while simultaneously making huge money because of the gore. He's a filmmaker with no personal integrity. AND he has lousy taste in music. I was around in the sixties, The Doors were a teenybopper band who's primary audience was sexually confused fouteen year old boys.
I hated JFK so much (though i suspect he got it pretty much right) that it was years before I paid full fare for a movie. Recenty, my husband watched JFK several times in a row and I realized why I hate it so much - everybody whines non-stop. Fletcher Prouty's character (played by Donald Sutherland) is the only character that doesn't whine. The next time it's on cable, listen for a few minutes from another room. You'll be amazed.
Shadowlands. UGH! Anthony Hopkins is not attractive! and Debra Winger was twice his size, and half his age! Not cool!
Cast Away. Worst ending of all time.
Out of Africa. Maybe I saw this one when I was too young, but good god, I hated this movie. Any movie set in colonial Africa is bound to piss me off, but this one takes the cake. Meryl Streep is just unbearable and I usually love her.
The Natural. Way to destroy the book, Redford.
Citizen Kane. I can't say I've ever actually seen it, because I've fallen asleep every time I've tried.
Reservoir Dogs. Couldn't stand it.
Geez. I loved Wings of Desire and Withnail and I.
First time I can recall disagreeing with Phila so strongly! Good thing it's only about celluloid...
Got here late, and skimmed through the thread. Just want to say to those who commented, I find myself in complete agreement and simultaneous complete disagreement with virtually everyone.
That said, the first acclaimed film that I hated that came to mind (that I didn't see mentioned) was "Grand Canyon."
I didn't really care for Lost in Translation. If I had to pick a film from the same year which symbolized the human condition, I would pick The Station Agent. That film was great. Scarlett J. is so overrated.
That said, I'm shocked, shocked that a man would hate The Piano. Harvey K. naked? With tribal tattoos on his face? Something only a woman can truly appreciate. Oh, and all the feminist stuff which is clearly the thrust of the film. But mostly the naked Harvey K.
Let's slay some "classics".
Bringing Up Baby - painfully, horribly unfunny.
Last Tango in Paris - one of the worst movies I have ever seen. A huge chink in Pauline Kael's armor.
JFK - Historically irresponsible with no sense of subtlety or nuance in any of the performances. However, beautifully shot and brilliantly edited.
Not a classic, but can I for one say Team America fucking sucks a huge, throbbing vein donkey dick? The only, I mean the only funny parts are the songs. It's Goldfinger unfunny. There are long stretches where they don't even attempt jokes. A big, hot, steaming pile of shit.
Let's talk about movies the critics trashed that were actually cool.
Gummo. Janit Maslin trashed it mercilessly.
SWR |
That film was such a mindfuck. We used to hang out with foilheads just to see the look on their faces.
Stop by, let them sizzle their foil while their brain melts from the movie.
That film made friends stop drinking. An unintended side affect.
Jack! There's a boat, Jack!
Titanic was total schlock GREAT. Kate Winslet, rrrowwrrr.
Last movie I saw in a moviehouse, Oceans Twelve. What a piece of total worthless crap. Dino and Sammy Davis roll in their graves.
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Gewn Stefani and the hollaback is on as I read this.
I sang the chorus from Gilligan's Isle before the show. Three times I endured Titanic.
Jesus Christ. What a bunch of whiners you all are.
Tangerine Dream did the soundtrack to Legend.
EVERY MOVIE WORTH WATCHING IN THE LAST DECADE is on this list.
Just so that you're aware, slamming good art doesn't make you look exceptional.
If one plots on the x axis reputation and on the y axis this viewer's interest, then the worst film with the best reputation has to be GWTW.
Conversely, A Man Facing Southeast is a great film with almost no rep.
which list?
You folks aren't even scraping the bottom of the barrel:
Just A Gigolo, starring David Bowie.
Worst. Movie. Ever.
The list of worst movies is very long, I'd add "The Onion Field" (racist, homophobic, boring, bad-acting and the stunningly bad "The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea" which was possibly the worst movie of its decade. Not least due to presenting Kris Kristofferson as a sex object. Give me a break. "Good as it Gets" "Sleepless in Seattle" anything with the hunk actors of the 80s. Anything with the Hank actor of the 80s. Anything with Robin Williams screwing his face up or going icy-threat of- violence in lieu of his learning the rudiments of dramatic acting. Just about anything that gets commercial release these days is junk.
The best movie, I don't know, "The Man on the Flying Trapeeze"?
I've never understood why Bringing Up Baby was considered as good. Though it has a few moments, Adam's Rib is pretty bad in a lot of places. "Keeper of the Flame" is dreadful. And I actually like Katherine Hepburn, though I've never understood Spenser Tracy's appeal. I did like "Desk Set" a lot as well as "Without Love". Improbable as its premise was.
Autumn Sonata - Ingmar Bergman with Ingrid Bergman and Liv Ullman.
My mother took me to see this because she knew I like Bergman films, and she, being an Ingrid Bergman fan, thought that this confluence might make for an interesting evening.
Now, I had seen Cries and Whispers about ten times. Loved it, was in awe of it, considered it to be one of Bergman's all time best. Then came Face To Face where Liv Ullman spends the last forty minutes of the film screaming at the top of her lungs. While I love Liv Ullman, I found the film to be totally unendurable. After that, there was Scenes From a Marriage. A six hour film shot for tv, then edited down to 2 and 1/2 hours for American theatrical release. Not one of Bergman's more poetical triumphs but gripping, shocking, wise and ultimately, satisfying all the same.
Which brings us to Autumn Sonata - beautifully shot, yes. Well acted, yes. I wanted to like it. I wanted it to be richly rewarding because I knew this was the one time in my life my mother and I were going to sit down together with a foreign film. My mother, bless her heart, forced herself to like it. I wanted to rip my eyes out, I hated it so much. Honest to god, I don't think Bergman had a coherent idea about what he wanted to do with this train wreck of a script. It had all been done before, done better and done to death by Bergman and company. If Face To Face had been one of the least enjoyable films this side of Salo I'd ever sat through, Autumn Sonata was quite simply, one of the most groan inspiring two hours I've ever spent in my life.
As it turns out, Bergman's career had pretty much run it's course by that point. There were two other major films to follow - well, three actually. Of these, I found The Magic Flute to be a much needed tonic for all that endless Strindberg-by-way-of-Freud breast beating. The critics had a lot of good things to say about Autumn Sonata. I personally think they were just sucking up to Ingrid Bergman. I remember Tom Laughlin, of Billy Jack fame, once claiming in print that his work was just as artistically valid as the films of Ingmar Bergman. Maybe he'd just come back from seeing Autumn Sonata. If we limit ourselves to this very tiny oddball and unlikely premise, I'd have to say I'm in agreement.
"Moulin Rouge," "The English Patient," and anything by David Lynch.
Titanic, Kill Bill Vol.2, and pretty much anything made by Tim Burton since Nightmare Before Christmas.
I really liked John Candy's cameo in JFK. He should've done more drama.
And Tim Curry rocked in Legend. Best thing about the whole damn movie.
'unbearable lightness of being' was good but it could not decide the type of movie it wanted to be...
period piece until it went through flashbacks and time span jumps
love story until the war/political crises overtook that
the longing it was supposed to leave even went strange with the ending, it didn't fit the feeling left for the final character fans could identify with
very ambitious, not a full success
how could you hate it atrios?
Something to do with the cat? he just about stepped on the cat in an argument and you cannot stand such insensitive action. She loved the cat, he was sleeping around and their move isolated any groth the characters could have. He was not returning the love , so she adored the cat instead.
There was a lot to the movie. The one who did move found the most fulfillment in her art and still longed for her homeland and great loving friends.
All of that played over culture and politics.
And a pet pig who get drunk. The coolest pig ever gets killed.
You trashed that film?
the legend of a-man, return to morality
all in the space of one movie thread
It will take a lot of catblogging, and several better cspam appearances, sans comediennes, to resume demi-god status.
I remember Bergman's comedy, "All These Women" to be quite funny. I really liked "The Magician" and "Little Night Music". It's funny that with so many good comedies he's usually thought of as being dark and ponderous. Other than "Seventh Seal" and "Wild Strawberries" there aren't that many really dark movies. Didn't see "Autumn Sonata" but didn't like "Scenes From A Marriage" at all. I did think "Fanny and Alexander" was wonderful.
I thought TITANIC was critically panned, not acclaimed.
Anyway,
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (not funny)
The Matrix (Plato's Republic didn't star Keanu Reaves)
Anything starring Tom Hanks (other than Bosom Buddies)
Anything directed by Rob "Meathead" Reiner
Anything directed by Ron "Obie" Howard
Hated Barton Fink with the firce passion of 10,000 supernovas. I saw it for free and I still wanted to demand my money back.
I actually sort of liked the first part, it's an amazing recreation of Hollywood in that era, but the rest of the film killed bits of my soul.
Hate Legend too. My former best friend's fiance' adored it. I suppose I should have realized the friendship was doomed from that point on. When he found out my feelings on it he did everything he could to undercut our frienship.
Best War Movie...That's tough. There's the great German works, Das Boot, Stalingrad, and The Bridge; I think they'd have to be on a list.
I think the first 20 minutes of Saving Private Ryan is genius and the rest is a bad episode of Combat with better set decoration.
I have always wanted to slap every single person who ever told me I would love The Big Chill. God, I still wish I could have the time back.
"And anything by Nora Ephron.
pbg"
On leaving "Sleepless," my wife said "I hated the movie, I hated the kid, I hated the map, I hated the dead wife we didn't see." To which I said "I married the right woman."
Her verdict on "The English Patient": "Casablanca, but the Nazis won."
My personal dislike of all time, however, is "Last Year at Marienbad." Made my legs hurt with boredom. Luckily they took me out of the theater.
Titanic.
I win, you can all go home now.
Central Scrutinizer
Heh..that was my choice too. I'll go one better and give just a few of the myriad reasons this movie is one of the all time dogs...
1)The casting director that thought Leonardo Dicaprio could convincingly portray a rough-and-tumble gambling roughneck out to be making sandwiches at the local deli.
That wimp woulda been some other rouhhousers "bitch" in about 1 half a day in life. He was TERRIBLE.
2) The script. My GOD her husband was the spitting image of snidely whiplash..I kept waiting for a puppy dog to show up so he could kick it overboard...what MELODRAMA...sheesh.
And that's just two reasons.
Grey - you hated the Princess Bride?
Was "Gods and Generals" critically acclaimed? (I really think quite highly of "Gettysburg", but the propaganda piece that is "G&G" just stinks).
Menshevik
The most schizophrenic of paired movies. Gettysburg was amazingly good, G&G was dreadful.
Ron Howard's manipulative heart-tugging, schmaltzfests.
On BRAVEHEART, many silly historical rewrites (Battle of Sterling Bridge---without the bridge) and gay-bashing to boot.
1)The casting director that thought Leonardo Dicaprio could convincingly portray a rough-and-tumble gambling roughneck out to be making sandwiches at the local deli.
He is always miscast. I don't think this kid's been properly cast in a movie since he played the mentally retarded younger brother in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape," and that is a compliment, because he was actually really good in that movie.
What the hell was he doing in "Gangs of NY" or "The Aviator" or "Titanic"? He was good "This Boy's Life," though.
Speed. Terrible.
I aggressively hated "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon". I aggressively hate empty, empty movies that think they're "deep" because people die.
This is not unrelated to my aggressive hatred of "The Matrix", an empty, empty movie that thought it was deep because it had, like, philosophy and stuff.
Another vote for Gladiator. The Patriot was also awful on so many levels (hated the characters, hated the historical inaccuracies--the errors of both omission and commission, and now I hate Mel). (I loved Apollo 13... not sure why others don't--but then I'm a math and science geek and my dad was an engineer in the space program for the entire Apollo program). Really liked Forrest Gump too. I liked Titanic, but mostly for Kate, the sinking ship, and I liked the ending a lot)
Lost in Translastion.
To this day I have no idea what everyone was on about. I found it trite and mean-spirited.
"anything directed by ron "meathead" reiner."
-greynotgray
i gotta disagree. spinal tap.
oh, this goes back a ways, but i thought "an officer and a gentleman" sucked.
The worst being Oleanna, where they commit one of the cardinal sins of acting - when they're supposed to be interrupted, they pause and *wait* for the interruption. WTF???
Absolutely. I saw the play at the Old Globe Theater in San Diego and walked out at my first opportunity. It was unbearable...the constant interruption of one actor's dialog by the other was extrordinarily irritating. The characters were stiff, flat, grating, and not very lifelike. And Mamet seemed hell-bent on making the plot march through personal interactions that were painfully illogical. It was the first and only time I've walked out on a play. You couldn't PAY me to endure torture like that.
A-frickin'-men, Atrios. Gawd, I hate those movies. The Piano: Woman falls in love with a sexual coercive. The English Patient: Self-indulgent, sadomasochist, whining, effete asshole confuses love with misery.
Frankly, the last movie Ralph Fiennes was any good in was Schindler's List.
And let's not forget the year that Dances with Wolves beat out Goodfellas on Oscar night...
Here a couple more:
Million Dollar Baby
Terms of Endearment
One film that really annoyed me was Contact - I loved the opening half, but then began to get angry when Zemekis turned on the whole "you gotta have faith" shtick.
Ugh. "Million Dollar Baby." Don't know if I hated the movie or just that Hillary Swank. She reminds me of Dummy Moore circa 1986, "Look at me, damnit! LOOK! AT! ME!" Barf.
Star Wars.....All of them
Recent turkeys: Closer, White Noise.
OK, I had to skip through the thread because too many people said "Moulin Rouge". What is wrong with you people? And I loved it when the critics (initially) hated it.
I can see where people think Altman and Lynch are unbearable but as I rule, I love their work. "Nashville" is great, even despite Altman's snottiness about this area. I don't know how he did - but somehow he got it. A lot of the others, I'm so there, though. "Gladiator", "English Patient" and God help us, "The Piano". I had an Oscar party the year of that movie - I will never forget an entire room saying "Anna...Paquin??!!!"
Really unbearable, for me - and if they were4 mentioned, I missed it:
"Damage" - overwrought book, overwrought movie. All I can remember is laughing at the "serious" parts - "banging head on the floor sex" and the preposterous death of the son.
"Seven" -- Brad Pitt and his freaking face-making that passes for acting. Nasty story. (But then, I love David Lynch so ..go figure.)
Oh yeah, and "Mission Accomplished: Bush Screws Up America" -- I HATE this one. Five years and the summbitch thinks he has to define words for America - THAT HE CANNOT EVEN PRONOUNCE.
Last rant - needed that.
Any movie with Peter Sellars.
These days movies, like so much "popular" culture, suffer from the overarching reliance on marketing studies.
Thus, I'd like to do the ultimate movie critic's column--each week I'd merely write, "This is a good movie, if you like that sort of thing."
It's been a long time (15 years?) since I saw it, but I didn't get "The Wild Bunch" at all. I actually remember thinking through the film: "I know this is 'great', but it just seems like an orgy of violence for its own sake. And at some point in my life I'm gonna have to watch it again to figure out what I'm missing. Uggh."
Hasn't happened yet.
And "Training Day" with an Oscar for Denzel and a nom for Ethan, was dreck. I didn't believe a solitary scene or a singal utterance. The biggest stinker int he last 5 years of Oscardom.
(And I have a ticket to see Denzel as Brutus Wednesday afternoon and Ethan in Hurlyburly Thursday night, bitches!)
It's a Wonderful life - enough to make you want to suicide.
I like to watch. TV.
Moonstruck.
Personal Best.
The Pope of Greenwich Village.
I saw these with friends as soon as they came out. We were giggling in the theater at how bad they were -- Moonstruck and Pope, with their ridiculous, bad-sitcom stereotypes, and Personal Best with its endless slo-mo's of the runners. Then I find out that the reviewers went nuts over all three!
As someone put it, if you get paid to watch five movies a week, you quickly develop a different perspective from the average person.
All time worst movie that hasn't been made yet.
Star Lord 4.5 - Revenge of the Previous
I also didn't understand the praise that was heaped upon Seven (or se7en). I walked out after that movie absolutely detesting humanity. I realize that it was a very effective work of art but it definitely wallowed in it's own nihilism.
To quote the greatest movie of all time RE nihilism:
DUDE: "The weren't Nazis, Walter. They were nihilists. They kept saying they believed in nothing."
WALTER: "Nihilists? (pause) Fuck me...I mean say what you want about the tenets of Nationalist Socialism, at least its an ethos!"
Ooohh..."Moonstruck". Well, from the ten minutes I saw, I loathed it.
I nominate Nick Cage, along with Sean Penn, as the best/worst actors out there. Great actors, sometimes, - other times they literally make me long for their early demise in the movie. Which almost never happens.
GOLLY, I thought I'd slipped in to a rightwing blog for a moment...as interesting as the comments here are they are only the OPINIONS of those posting...and yet many, as the worst of the worst paid critics do, are expressed as facutal information we should all embrace. A dialogue and discussion of movies one liked/disliked and why would be interesting and enlightening...but the old such and such "is a piece of crap" is one guy/gal's opinion. That's why I don't read reviews before deciding whether I might find a movie/video worth viewing. I might look for something different than you...this is the attitude many of us slip into with our political debates as well...
very late, but gotta post with The Tin Drum.
Only tolerable with large quantities of alcohol, IIRC.
I realize that it was a very effective work of art but it definitely wallowed in it's own nihilism.
You hit it exactly. I don't quite know why that movie was different from other creepy movies that I do like, except that it did seem to celebrate violent death, vicious inhumanity ...and bad acting. The end was predictable - the character of the wife was just there to be snuffed.
Really vile.
But, as I said, I love things like "Blue Velvet". So maybe it's my quirk.
Another personal peeve, of a very different sort: "An Officer and a Gentleman". Hated it. Except for Debra Winger.
Did anyone mention The Mod Squad? I got hoarse from sitting with my jaw on the floor gaping at the sheer insipidity of it. Who would have thought you could get a group of decent actors to turn out not a single watchable moment out of two hours. We saw it on opening night and made a detour back into the theater to try to talk people waiting in line out of it. Really.
Rain Man was just ridiculous button pushing: Road movie, buddy film, selfish asshole finds redemption in the love of a good woman. Pity factor for a disabled guy, gratuitous shots of pretty cars.
Eyes Wide Shut: Laughably mannered.
I could go on, but it's sunny and warm outside3 and life is too short to dwell on the negative for more than 5 minutes at a time.
chill out, dancer.
Did I mention - I hate it when I screw up when using italics.
Dead Poets Society.
First few minutes are great, but the suicide scene makes me hate everything else. Also, the ending bites all on its own.
I cannot remember if A.I. had the critics nod, but there is something really really sad when the free online game done for p.r. was far far far better than the movie. The game was at least interesting and brought up a few questions, but the movie seemed to be Spielberg doing Kubric in karaoke. The ending seemed to be just tacked on and was pure crap.
I got talked into seeing Titanic. I spent 2 hours wishing the boat would sink just to end the idiotic dialogue and sheer boredom. Then I spent an hour wishing the damn boat would sink faster.
And the English Patient. I thought I was getting some war. All I got was blubbery pining over boring affairs.
I don't read reviews (because the reviewers usually don't share my taste), but I do hit Rotten Tomatoes to see which ones get over 50%. That usually serves as a pretty good indicator as to whether I'll enjoy it or not (but I've been burned at least once by that system too).
Hated:
Nixon
Elephant Man
Gangs of New York
Eyes Wide Shut
Pay it Forward
Loved:
True Romance
People vs Larry Flynt
Jaws ... I started to laugh about three-fourths of the way through and almost got tossed from the theater. "But, it's a giant rubber puppet, you dumbasses!"
Barry Lyndon
I thought it wound NEVER end.
I hated The Godfather. I was glad whenever anyone was killed, and I thought Marlon Brando was incredibly overrated in that movie. In my opinion, the whole movie just sucked. I can't say anything about the other Godfather movies because I wouldn't waste more time and money on such manipulative puke.
I saw "Being There" for the first time last year, and actually liked it. Though the very last scene turns the entire movie upside down, and if you believe the IMDb the director just threw it in on a whim. That being said, I thought the movie was a prescient allegory of the George W. Bush presidency: a not-very-bright man making insipid statements that the public takes to be profound. (One could even say GWB's presidency is the real-life sequel to the movie, the Peter Sellers character's ascension foreshadowed by the movie's ending.)
Blue Velvet, Charlie's Angels, Waterworld
I loved that Pauline Kael loathed the Piano too. Also hated The Hours, though I loved the book.
And agree with a couple of other posters on A Beautiful Mind and Mystic River. Clint Eastwood makes very middle-brow movies that somehow people believe are deep.
Clerks. Randal said everything I ever wanted to say to my customers when I waited on tables.
Oh, I can't go to bed without letting this slide by. Do you, or do you not, think that all the people who died on the Death Star deserved it?
Yeah, they deserved it. The arguments in the film are pretty much right on. It's like contractors going into a war zone for profit these days.
And yeah, Clones was way better than Phantom Menace, although cut like crap and incomprehensible for a seven year old (unlike Star Wars, which came out when I was seven).
The Bourne Supremacy
Don't know if it was "critically acclaimed", but damn, I'd like to whack the director, Greengrass, with a two-by-four. That movie could have been excellent, if not for the headache-causing visuals; blurry and staccato. Bastard.
The Bourne Supremacy? maybe not great film making, but the Mini chase scene set to Paul Oakenfold's "Ready, Steady, Go" shot me out of my seat like a spring. Genius use of music. Pretty good CD, too.
Sorry, wrong Bourne. Liked the first one. Second one was jittery, predictable, depressing and incoherent. Wish I'd missed it. Plus no Oakenfold.
Gangs of New York....what the hell was all the hype about?
Out of Africa, snoooze! Redford great director, horrible actor!
Ah,... Mr. BuSH, WHACK! CLaMMER, CRaSH.. BAM!
Whoah, his names a killing word too-
The best thing about The Piano was that you didn't have to hear Holly Hunter speak.
Here's a recommendation instead: Pelle the Conqueror. You might hate it but Max von Sydow and the cinematography are tremendous. Make sure you get the one with subtitles; the English dub sounds, as always, idiotic.
I was thinking about pretenious movies that bugged me - remembered "Gorky Park" -- Americans playing Russians, using English accents.
Go figure.
And that brings up a subcategory - movies that were badly botched that started as terrific books.
A sure nominee - "Bonfire of the Vanties".
God. Criminally bad.
Best war movie?
"After the Fox" with Peter Sellers
and
"Kelly's Heroes"
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Thersites, re Proposero's Books, David Hockney was at the same press screening I went to of that one and after ten minutes he got up and walked out !
Glad to see everybody piling on Forrest Gump - the biggest cinematic lie since Hitler Builds a City for the Jews.
In the world according to Gump, if you slept through the 60's and did everything your parents and teachers told you, and respected all elected officials then you're on the fast track to sainthood.
On the other hand, if you protested the Vietnam war you'd get AIDS and die.
Seinfeld made hating The English Patient chic. I found it merely boring. It should be pointed out, however, that Kristin Scott-Thomas is a trooper without peer. Never forget she started her career in one of the greatest bad movies of all time, Under the Cherry Moon.
Just about anything with Tom Cruise.
Just about anything with Madonna.
Just about anything with Demi Moore or her boy toy Ashton Kutcher.
Just about anything with Bo Derek.
NONE of the above mentioned individuals can act.
Another Bruce:
Disagree.
Loved "Prince of Tides."
Incredible Lightness of Being.
Laughably manipulative, long, boring and self indulgent load of crap pretending to be historically significant.
How about Mel Gibson's anti-Semitic snuff film:
"Passion of the Christ."
Moulin Rouge. Most.Overhyped.Movie.Ever
Switched it off after about 20 minutes. Dull, dull, dull.
Driving Miss Daisy. Too much of that sort of gentle racism Hollywood excels in for me to be able to stomach it.
Going back a little further, The Goodbye Girl. Trite, stupid little Neil Simon film that actually won Oscars. Should have won Razzies.
Gangs of New York....what the hell was all the hype about?
Jim
The book was way better!
Field of Dreams. I hated that movie.
Independence Day - blew donkey balls
Life Aquatic - put me and the wife to sleep
O Brother where art thou was a total bag of shit as far as I was concerned.
"Prince of Tides"
Another nominee for Great Book, Stinking, Horrible Movie.
I still long to slap Streisand for that one.
jmo. But really...
"Red Dawn" or any other right wing bullshit Milius spews out.
And to add to the crap pile: Nightmare Before Christmas and Edward Scissorhands... turned both off after about 15 minutes. I just don't care and life is short.
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Schindler's List. Would have worked much better as a comedy with Bill Murrary in the Liam Neeson role.
Tokyokie
Huh?
Field of Dreams. I hated that movie.
Doug
The Natural.
Were they for real with that fucking cornball ending?
Interesting. I have decided that Atrios is much, much younger and more inexperienced than I had imagined.
I'm beginning to feel much better about a lot of things as a result. You folks just carry on and God bless. All's right with the universe.
Pretty Woman.
I hate that movie. Prostitutes are not glamourous, and you don't meet a millionaire who wants to marry you.
Life is Beautiful
A cute Holocaust movie. yuch.
If it had been made in Hollywood, in english, there's no way it would have gotten off the ground.
Glad to see Mystic River on a few lists. Pretty much any work of art the "key" to which is childhood sexual abuse, is unimaginative manipulative crap.
And Tim Curry rocked in Legend. Best thing about the whole damn movie.
Death of Rats
I LOVE Tim Curry.
"McHale's Navy" was SO bad because of Tom Arnold....but Tim? He was a hoot!
Pretty Woman.
I hate that movie. Prostitutes are not glamourous, and you don't meet a millionaire who wants to marry you.
Karin
Except for "Mystic Pizza", I can't stand Julia Roberts, the homewrecking bitch!
John H. Farr: I have decided that Atrios is much, much younger and more inexperienced than I had imagined.
I'm 52 so what THAT comment was supposed to mean, I have no idea!
How about something positive: movies you saw and loved that NO ONE (beside the critics) saw?
Ride With the Devil
Dark Blue World
Anyone see these?
My two fav hates:
SHOWGIRLS - I actually walked out of this one... when the lesbian dance number was about to end with a kiss but instead ended in the hissy fit Nomi always threw at the end of every scene. The writers used her hissy fits like another writer might use a pistol or the old Western Union boy...
PEARL HARBOR - I would have been great either as a silent movie or, failing that, a movie where somebody gave the first fuck about what came out of the character's mouths. Language so torturedly cliché that Amnesty International should have gotten involved...
Can't believe the thread made it this far without anyone mentioning Breaking the Waves.
There were some good possibilities there, and I gave the film a fair chance most of the way through (even though Lars von Trier is a bastard), but never have I seen a film end with such a unappealing blend of sentimental mawkishness and enthusiastic misogyny.
Several have mentioned As Good As It Gets. That film really pissed me off. I have OCD -- I can tell you, OCD makes you wash your hands too much or keep rearranging your sweaters by color, not act like a prick and have zero chemistry with Helen Hunt.
Agree with comments on Nic Cage and Moonstruck above. Christ, talk about bad chemistry...
But I have many tomatoes to duck, I suppose, because I'm very fond of many sf/near-sf items dismissed earlier (Zardoz, Donnie Darko, Altered States, etc.), and 2001's always given me chills. And I have respect for Greenaway's overall artistic intentions even if his films can be a little, um, whatever sometimes, where "whatever" has veered dangerously close to misogyny occasionally...
Oh, and anybody remember Vanishing Point? One of the all-time best/worst films ever.
"Goodfellas." ("Godfather" is on my all-time 10-best list.) Hated "Field of Dreams" except for James Earl Jones and Ray Liotta. Best thing Jones has ever done.
E.T.
Titanic
Pulp Fiction
My own Private Idaho.
Clerks
Lost In Translation: Great
The vast popularity of a movie as oddball as 2001 shows that it hit some nerve. It wasn't clear what that nerve was at the time and may be even more obscure now, but there it is.
Schindler's List. Top THAT.
(Kidding . . . I haven't even seen it. That's probably worse than hating it).
"Schindler's List. Would have worked much better as a comedy with Bill Murrary in the Liam Neeson role."
Great - now I am trying to imagine that... and I will get even, I swear!!
Howards End.
And, Uh, Howards End.
I am SO with you Atrios. The Piano and the English Patient = slow torture by characters with no redeeming values and plot lines that make you want to slit your wrists because you have to sit through to the end.
Hated:
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
The English Patient (gorgeous cast and scenery, though).
Lost in Translation.
Sideways.
Any Star Wars film, even the supposedly "good" ones.
Anything by Quentin Tarantino, ditto.
Anything with Tom Cruise or Keanu Reeves.
Chariots of Fire.
Two hours of slow motion beach running.
Sideways
The Talented Mr. Ripley
Catch Me if You Can
Requiem for a Dream.
Titanic
Atrios, I officially love you. The English Patient was excruciatingly awful and pretentious to boot -- not to mention well over an hour too long. The Piano, well. I hated it all the more because I'm from New Zealand, and after that movie came out everyone (in the States) kept asking me if New Zealand was really as depressing as it looked in the movie. (The answer is no, and it never was.)
A twist on the original question: Worst Critically Acclaimed Book Ever -- Everything Is Illuminated. Offensively awful, and pretentious with it. The world would be a better place has Jonathan Safran Foer never written a word.
Oh yeah, Lost in Translation. What a waste of time.
Never saw the English patient but I certainly hated the Piano. And loathed Dancing with Wolves.
Oh yeah, and I second the Schindler's List h8rs. Spielberg just couldn't bring himself to kill any of his characters, even though the movie was ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST. People criticized Life is Beautiful for "not taking the Holocaust seriously," but at least
[SPOILER ALERT]
the viewer is brought face to face with the death of a beloved character at the end. A lot more "real" than Spielberg could contrive.
Schindler's List. Would have worked much better as a comedy with Bill Murrary in the Liam Neeson role.
Oops, somebody beat me to it. Huh. Now if I ever DO see it I'll think of Bill Murray and won't be able to stop laughing inappropriately . . .
God, The Hours was the most depressing thing. It reminded me of The House of Mirth and that was anything but.
I physically cound not stand watching it the whole way through, it was like an assault.
oh yeah. i forgot. "shine". i hated "shine".
I know I'm in the minority but I don't care. Films I hated that almost everyone else loved or thought worthy of "acclaim":
Pulp Fiction
ET
Eraserhead
Phantom of the Opera (is there a worse composer than Andrew Lloyd Webber??)
BTW, anyone who thinks Schindler's List is a bad movie is an idiot, pure and simple.
I agree with many of these choices. I hated PULP FICTION, TITANIC, THE ENGLISH PATIENT, CROUCHING FIRE, ETC. It doesn't make me a "film snob" as someone said. Just someone who wants good movies to really be good. There are plenty of those out there. But too many are sold on the dubious qualities of an actor (Julia Roberts---yeecch, ditto for Kevin Costner) or some gimmick (see most of the above).
Citizen Kane is a steaming pile...
I liked Troy. I knew from the publicity that Alexander was to be avoided at all cost.
Titanic was a great disaster flick. It was intermingled with this other not very good movie, but you could overlook that.
Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean is a great performance, especially the second time he says "Interesting...Interesting."
I HATED "Silence of the Lambs."
Gratuitous, hideous violence and a stupid, unbelievable plot with an obvious twist. He was making a dress? No shit! I figured that out in five minutes, but these supposedly professional FBI agents couldn't? Please.
And nobody I know can explain to me how Hannibal got the pen when he was completely locked up in body armor. What is he, the Uri Geller of the cannibal world? "Come to me, my little pen ... wriggle yourself under my clothes and into my butt." All while under 24-hour surveillance.
And of course there was that nonsensical business about putting somebody else's facial skin on top of his own, and having it fit perfectly! And stay in place! My husband and I both said "Oh, come on!" at that point and then turned off the tape.
If you want to see a really believable detective story about sadistic serial killers, check out BBC's "Usual Suspects" with Helen Mirren.
Miramax haters, all of you!
Gladiator, Braveheart, Titanic, all shitty movies that won the Oscar for Best Picture.
Forgot "Braveheart". Hated it. God, that man loves violence.
Without a doubt the most over-rated flick of all time is ............. Titanic
Was there ever a film with more inane dialogue??
Gotta say that while I agree a lot of these movies did not deserve the accolades they got, I didn't really *hate* any of them. Yeah, I didn't really get the hype around "Lost in Translation." And yeah, I had absolutely no desire to see "Gladiator" again once it was over. But they were acceptable, mildly enjoyable diversions for a few hours.
I will admit, I thought Titanic was pretty terrible.
Without a doubt the most over-rated flick of all time is ............. Titanic
Was there ever a film with more inane dialogue??
I don't know, did you see the 3 recent Star Wars movies?
Seriously, Titanic sucked but I think even back then everyone knew it sucked. Unless you were a teenage girl at the time, did you know *anyone* who actually thought it deserved the Best Picture Oscar?
Ocean's Twelve. I didn't so much mind the money wasted on the ticket as that I had passed up a chance to see Lemony Snicket...
And I still get blood squirting out my ears when I think of The Piano.
Magnolia (Absolute, utter, meaningless nonsense)
Thin Red Line (Meaningless crap - cut the 1 hour of talking heads and you might have a movie.)
Spirited Away (Just bad. No better than any Saturday morning anime.)
Beloved
Hannah And her Sisters -- when the film broke the audience cheered!!
Oh, I got one: Mystic River. Redeemed only slightly by Tim Robbins.
"As Good as it Gets."
"BTW, anyone who thinks Schindler's List is a bad movie is an idiot, pure and simple"
Bullshit. There is plenty to criticize about that movie, starting with the idea that the only dramatic stories that came from the holocaust were about "good" gentiles saving the pathetic and helpless Jews.
Gosford Park!
Blade Runner was visually very nice, but the guy who wrote the screenplay ruined the original Philip Dick story. I don't require that a movie made from a book should follow the book with perfect fidelity; a movie is a totally separate work of art which stands on its own. But the script of Blade Runner employed the mechanical elements of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep to present a trivial story whose best parts were eye candy, which stepped right around all the serious questions the book had confronted head on.
Adam Sandler's remake of "The Longest Yard."
Most critics hated this movie and rightly so. My teeth were set on edge within the first few minutes, where wer're supposed to beleive Sandler as a sexy, swaggering former quarterback.
The only parts I enjoyed in the movie were in the beginning, where we get to see Sandler's smug smirk get slapped off repeatedly by the gaurds and inmates at the prison.
And I don't even hate Sandler all that much. It's just when he plays these entitled, thuggish fratboy types, that I start begging to see him get coldcocked. But in the theater where we saw it, the audience, more than a few looked 15 and under, was guffawing at every one of Sandler's stupid jerk moves.
How I worry about the youth of this country.
Joe
Mystic River
Really tried too hard to make its point and relied on way too many coincidences. For me, it was a distraction from the fine performances.
Mostly I don't hate movies because they're not that important. I'm all grown up now and I don't ever have to watch an Adam Sandler movie or even know who he is.
I can think of one exception, though. Trainspotting got some good reviews and I hated it so much I couldn't bear to watch it. It was about druggies in Glasgow hoping to score while taking care of an eight month old baby. When the baby died and it was pretty clear it was going to happen all along, I walked out. How can I be expected to care about what happens to people so utterly beyond redemption? I'm no right-to-lifer, nor am I so pro-baby that I'm willing to view women as envelopes. I'm pro-choice because I know what babies cost and a prospective mom ought to up for the task. Funny isn't it? I've watched rivers of gore in movies my whole life, and that death made me furious!
Forrest Gump and Gladiator
Best War Movie?
anyone....
anyone...
"The Longest Day". My annual viewing is tomorrow -- every 6/6, of course.
I closed that tag, dammit!
#$%^&* Haloscan.
I'm with you on "Silence...", Brooklyn Girl. But of course this thread is all about individual differences.
My brother and my niece (my sister's daughter) are both OK with the abundant bullshit used like Bondo to hold movies together. They're vastly different in personality and taste, not to mention age, but are literate, intelligent graduates from Ivy League universities.
Neither would've watched "Silence..." for different reasons, but if they had, they would've airily dismissed the kinds of criticisms you made with, "Oh, well-- it's a movie. You can't enjoy it if you're hung up on pissant plausibility and logical consistency or whatever." (They're too smart to offer the corollary red herring, i.e. that life is inconsistent and illogical, so preposterous bullshit is sort of realistic and valid anyway.)
They forced me to watch "As Good as IT Gets", and I really felt like the odd man out. I pretended to think it was good, because if not one comes off as sociopathic Vulcan: a party-pooper and a killjoy.
That travesty was not only rich in nonsensical characterizations and plot point, it also was saturated in the usual superficial emotional manipulation that is the hemoglobin of would-be blockbusters.
Personally, I remain a bit torn or divided about films. In 1969, my freshman (Catholic prep) high school humanities curriculum had a fairly progressive media component that did a pretty good job teaching the fundamentals of "cinema appreciation". We watched many good classic films (including "Odd Man Out", incidentally) and even took "field trips" to see first-run movies, e.g. the fabulous "2001".
But my enthusiasm for films faded, and I've only gone to the movies a handful of times since the mid-'80s. Oddly, I still remain vaguely interested in films, though. I used to watch "Siskel & Ebert" religiously, and for a while I would read dozens of individual reviews on "Rotten Tomatoes" on movies I had no intention of seeing.
I think the hype and the crappy production values had a lot to do with it. But if I'm off films, why did I read this entire goddamned thread?
Shittiest acclaimed films: EVERYTHING that has won best picture oscars for the last 20 years at least.
Far, far better: ANYTHING that won oscars for best original or best adapted screenplays.
Ugh. MASH. I just saw that on TV last year for the first time in 30 years. Hated it.
These two oh-so-hip doctors single-handedly making fools out of the military. Pull-eze. That's an anti-war film? Only in the half-assed sense that everyone in the sixties was a sixties radical and then ten years later they voted for Reagan. And yes, I'm talkin bout MY generation. MASH is a piece of shit.
Oh and it must be added: My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Go ahead, ladies, flame me.
Haters! I liked "The Piano" and "The English Patient". The former is a rare example of female-sexuality subjectivity -- almost all movies treat women as objects of a male gaze, and Jane Campion has the balls to invert that. "The English Patient" is a visually gorgeous yet claustrophobic exploration of the prisons of memory, race and naming.
"Sideways" was slight, but still a pretty great movie. That it was so acclaimed is really a testament to how shitty everything else at the moment is.
Peter Greenaway is really an avant-garde artist working on his own level, and not the level of entertainment or narrative cinema. So it would be expected that a casual filmgoer (or even a serious film snob) wouldn't like "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover". If you didn't like that, definitely stay away from "The Draughtsman's Contract" and "A Zed and Two Noughts", which are concerned with similar themes. But if you liked "TCTTHWAHL", try them out.
Attacking "Barry Lyndon"? I won't hear such blasphemy. Same goes for attacks on "Fargo", "Pulp Fiction", "Casablanca", "Eternal Sunshine", "Lost in Translation", "Blade Runner", "O Brother Where Art Thou", "Goodfellas", "The Shining", "Blue Velvet", and "Ocean's 12". Yes, "Ocean's 12". That one is only liked by true film snobs.
But I will agree with the scorn piled on: "American Beauty" (subversive? please!), "Mystic River", "Schindler's List", "Forrest Gump", "Titanic", "I Heart Huckabees", "A Beautiful Mind", and "Lord of the Rings". Come to think of it, "English Patient" was the only best-picture film in recent years I respected. The last one I liked before that was "The Deer Hunter".
There you go.
Terms of Endearment - monumental waste of time to sit thru the entire thing.
Its out of print now I beleieve, but check Amazon for a great book that came out 10 years ago "Alternative Oscars" by Danny Peary (he of the Cult Movies series fame). Anyone who was ever dissatified with who won Picture, Actor & Actress will appreciate this.
Having mentioned Titanic, and even gave two reasons why I thought it was terrible, there is another side to the story, that I am glad I learned.
My wife and I took our son, and his friend (they were around 13 or so) to see Titanic.
I hated it. Thought DiCaprio was just WRONG as this tough guy, that the womans husband was hamming it up as Simon Legree, just needed the mustache twirl and the "you MUST pay the rent!" line, kicking puppies...
But...after sitting, enduring that tripe, bored out of my skull the whole time, on the way out to the car, thankfully something stopped me from making the pompous judgement of mine out loud...I almost said "what a piece of JUNK..." but kept my mouth shut. Our sons' friend then after we were walking in the parking lot said with such earnesty "that was the BEST!! movie I think I've ever seen!"
And you know...for him it was. As we get older, and have seen many of the same plots and twists, we all get a little jaded. Also we are not usually as easily fooled by devices, and we get more critical.
Point is, somehow, the movie touched that kid, and our son also though it was pretty damn great.
So when asked what I thought, I shrugged and said "yeah..that was a nice movie".
It WAS and IS crap, utter bullshit and manipulitive in a completely dumb way...but it reached and touched some teens.
Many things in life are like that.
What's up with this? I clicked refresh and it reposted my comment, even though that comment was no longer showing. Sorry.
boilerman10 - You hit the nail on the head with CopLand. Are we the only ones who wondered how it's possible to fall off the George Washington bridge after entering the Lincoln Tunnel? I never saw a single critic mention that. It ruined for me Stallone's best (although still only mediocre) movie.
I really can't stand any of Stallone's movies. I did like his cameo role in Bananas. Anybody remember F.I.S.T.? That's when I knew Stallone couldn't act. He couldn't play a bad guy straight, so he had the script changed to make the Jimmy Hoffa character a good guy.
Bullshit. There is plenty to criticize about that movie, starting with the idea that the only dramatic stories that came from the holocaust were about "good" gentiles saving the pathetic and helpless Jews.
Rusty
Okay, fair enough, I can see that being a minus. But let me make a case for this movie, which touches and scares, and moves me so much that I can only really stand to watch it every few years.
What this movie does, and does exremely well I think is give people just an inkling of the horror that it was. It drives home over and over that if you were in a concentration camp there was NOTHING you could do to save your life, there was no safe place and your life was less than that of a dogs to the nazis.
It showed in detail many of the things that happened there. It didn't glorify ANY of the violence, and when someone is shot with a pistol, like happened in the back of the factory, there is no sexy flame and rich sound effect of an explosive bullet being projected out...like in an Ah-nold film. No it is a hideously ugly and pitiful crack, and the person shot in the head is dead.
I can see being pissed off it wasn't made to tell a story YOU wanted told, but it did tell a story, and I disagree heartily that it portrayed any jews as "wimpy people needing a gentile to save them" I thought it portrayed humans in hell, acting as humans do, some behaving bravely, some trying only to survive, etc.
I think it is important, more than ever today, to see what happened there. I think they managed to show some of the realities in a symbolic way that worked, things like the nazis' hate for jews was such that EVEN when they needed them as laborers, they would kill them, cutting off their noses to spite their faces. That was part of the nazis downfall, and the scene with the jewish architect shows exactly that mindset that repeated itself all the way up to the end of the war.
Now you want to say this movie was worse than Titanic?
I didn't hate "The Year of Living Dangerously", but I was deeply disappointed. The movie is actually pretty insubstantial and, as far as I can tell, Gibson's character only really lived dangerously for about 24 hours. It was Billy Quan who was taking the real risks and the film should have been about him.
I didn't hate "Citizen Kane" either, but it completely bored me, it only took 20 minutes before I totally ceased to give a rat's ass about Rosebud.
As for movies I truly do hate: "As Good as It Gets", "Troy" (I'm a Classicist and friends had to make sure the booze never left my hand in order to keep me adequately sedated -- according to them palpable rage was radiating from my body), "A.I" (I was screaming and throwing things and begging for heroin).
As Bad As It Gets, Braveheart, Dances With Wolves, Titantic, Gladiator, and Sideways -- though Virginia Madsen almost saved it.
"The Lovers." Two hours of watching people stare languidly through rain-streaked windows....
lol
I'm not stalking anyone...I have more important things to do than to waste my time with a person who reacts like a crazy person because of a few cuss words.
Why does Des feel like it's okay to take a personal matter with me and try to hurt the Big Brass Alliance with it? And I'm the wingnut troll...lol?
How silly can some of you people be?
Des attacks me on her blog...deletes my response...yet I'm the aggressor?
so freaking lame
anyway here's the link to Des' crappy little blog post where she shows how insecure she is that she would try to hurt a good cause because of a few cuss words by me: http://greatscat.blogspot.com/20...-get-
email.html
I don't waste space on my blog reacting to nonsense like that anymore. And it sucks that I had to bring it here...but all of Des' friends have to make a mountain out of molehill.
I hated hated hated Monster's Ball. I cannot believe that Halle Berry won ANYTHING for that. I also hated Return of the King. How that beat out Eternal Sunshine, the world may never know.
Same goes for attacks on "Fargo", "Pulp Fiction", "Casablanca", "Eternal Sunshine", "Lost in Translation", "Blade Runner", "O Brother Where Art Thou", "Goodfellas", "The Shining", "Blue Velvet", and "Ocean's 12". Yes, "Ocean's 12". That one is only liked by true film snobs.
Mostly a big "yes" from my perspective. (Although..I haven't een "Oceans 12".) And "The Natural". And "Field of Dreams". How anyone could resist Burt Lancaster, I have no idea. All these aren't all my very favorite movies, but they all have their charms.
And if someone wants to hate "Citizen Kane"...well, have at it. Seems a stretch, but that's me.
I'd rather save it up the bad, the expensive, the over-produced and the pretentious.
Now you want to say this movie was worse than Titanic?
Tom Joad | Email | Homepage | 06.05.05 - 3:38 pm | #
Well, I've never seen Titanic. But I am pretty sure that Schindler's list is a much better movie. As for your comments, I can't refute a single one. I saw Schindler's list once, and left with a pretty ambivalent feeling about it (particularly given the hype surrounding it) and my criticism was mostly to the coment that anyone who didn't like the movie was an "idiot". Guess I took the bait on thet one.
I thought the piano teacher did a better job of conveying the horror of Nazi oppression, i would be curious about your thoughts on that movie.
Attacking "O Brother Where Art Thou" as blasphemy?
Bless me father for I have sinned. It sucked. Big. Not only that, its defenders always tell me "well maybe you don't get the Homeric refferences" or my favorite "remember, it's a Coen brothers movie" like that was supposed to explain things.
"Mrs. Dalloway"
God-awfully boring piece of crap.
Correction to a post above: "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" lost out to "Million Dollar Baby" for the Best Picture Oscar. "Eternal Sunshine" wasn't even nominated for Best Picture. I regard it as the best movie I've seen that was released in '04.
That also reminds me that "Million Dollar Baby" was grossly overrated, as was Clint Eastwood's other Best Picture Oscar winner, "Unforgiven." (Of course, I was 19 or 20 when I saw "Unforgiven" and thought "Aladdin" should've won the Best Picture for that year, so what do I know? )
Anything with the following:
Julia Roberts big injected lips
Angelina Jolie bigger injected lips
Cameron Diaz way too ditzy cute
Adam Sandler tries way too hard
Leo DiCaprio girl voice pug nose
Tom Cruise wooden can't act
Tom Hanks insufferably heroic
Rusty--It wasn't the job of "Schindler's List" to tell the story YOU thought should be told. And it in NO WAY implied that Jews were helpless, inasmuch as their heroism and determination to survive was highlighted AGAIN AND AGAIN. (Example: Ben Kingsley's charater, Stern.) No film I have ever seen conveyed the horror of the Holocaust more effectively. I've seen it more than dozen times; artistically and historically (I teach modern European history) in my view, it stands the test of time.
I'm sorry if I appeared intemperate by using the word "idiot".
Blue Velvet, pretentious and nearly unwatchable.
Prospero's Books. Peter Greenaway should be shot.
Peasant. Of course with the level of literacy in the Excited States what it is, should I be surprised?
Also hated The Piano and The Thin Red Line.
comic book guy, I can see now that it would be pointless for us to ever see a movie together.
Not even an hour ago I was having a conversation about how great Halle Berry was in Monster's Ball - and I absolutely hated that spotless mind movie. Blech!
Anything by the phoney pretentious English Italian director who The English Patient, Cold Mountain, Truly Madly Deeply, and the confused self-indulgent remake of Purple Noon, and whatever he does next.
I LOVE Stacey and Benning, but HATED American Beauty.
If you want to see a good movie, go right now to see Cinderella Man!
And speaking of Prospero's Books, how could anyone have thought that a version of the Tempest which was mainly about naked people pissing and Caliban writhing around with a leather strap around his scrotum was worth paying money to see? It's the all-time-worst adaptation of a play ever filmed. Even worse than the recent The Importance of Being Rupert Everett.
"21 Grams." The high-camp movie moment of the last 25 years was Sean Penn saying to Naomi Watts, "I have it. I have his heart."
I can't believe anybody went for it. I'd rather see a bad movie than bad "art" anyday, and this was bad "art."
"My Big Fat Greek Wedding." Everybody - but everybody - told us what a fun, great, feelgood movie it was. We though it was a boring, self-indulgent, slow, unfunny, feel-bad movie, and walked out after about a half hour.
there probably weren't any critics who wrote about the Best Movie of 2001 that no one saw: Ghosts of Mars
Terms of Endearment was the biggest waste of time I've ever experienced.
So because Flap (the husband) cheated on her it is ok for a mother of 3 to cheat on him? Now I oppose morals and values people at all costs but even I wasn't impressed by that behavior at all. It showed Flap as a low life (which he was) but the mom was shown as some empowered woman because she cheated on her husband that was cheating on her. Give me a break.
Saving Private Ryan
2001: A Space Odyssey
Both had terrific opening sequences, though.
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Sorry.
Chinatown
Actually, I like Chinatown, but it's still overrated.
American Beauty.
Pulp Fiction.
Blue Velvet.
Uh-oh, I could keep going down the misogyny trail...
Forrest Gump, Schindler's List, Star Wars.
Wish I could have the hours back I lost watching these:
The Piano
American Beauty
Meet Joe Black
The Beach(with Leo)
Those last two I hate, hate, hate...
Chocolat.
Forrest Gump.
So, if Dorothy stayed in Kansas at the end of Wiz/Oz, and were still alive today, which side would she be on in the current evolution/creationism issue?
Ditto Pretty Woman. Gaaaack! Ditto Lord of the Rings 1-10. Gaaaaack! Ditty the Godfather movies. Gaaaack!
And Driving Miss Daisy - what do people recommend one do when an actor (nongeneric) one loves is in a movie one knows is going to suck (knowing the story ahead of time)? The best I've been able to come up with is waiting for video and fast forwarding through the crap to see the favorite actor. Though in DMD, that would be difficult, since all his lines are in the context of being an Uncle Tom.
I asked a friend if this would work for Million Dollar Baby, since I can't stand CE, and he said no, because most of Freeman's scenes were with CE; I had thought they would probably be with Hilary.
How could anyone diss Cremaster?!! You've gotta respect someone who says, "Gee, I think I'll film a guy bucketing concrete into an elevator for half an hour." That's gutsy.
I thought American Pie was a cop-out version of Happiness, a much better film.
By the way, at least Titanic had that great part in the sinking scene where the people fell down the boat and hit the tables, just like they were human bumper pool.
Sabrina, Roman Holiday, Forrest Gump, English Patient (who DOES like this movie?), Gone with the Wind, Chicago, Crouching Tiger..., Field of Dreams (and I love baseball), Slacker, Princess Mononoke, and that's all I got off the top of my head.
Also, Love Actually was the worst movie I've seen in a long time.
I saw "The Great Escape" for the first time the other day. It starts off fantastic. But it's three freakin' hours long. And the last 50 minutes is just the escapees getting rounded up in boring chase scenes. What a let down.
Sheltering Sky.
Absolute twaddle. eye-gougingly boring and pretentious artsy crap, set in 1920s "Arabia" as that sneery-annoying Malkovich dude wanders in white linen among several locations ranging from "sunset-lit picuresque site" to "evening sun-lit photogenic place", spewing cliches about "lost love" in his weirdly stilted way like he's not actually conversing but is instead reading aloud from a Jane Austen novel.
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Last Emperor.
Bertolucci sold his soul in order to film in the Forbidden City. The schmuck.
Blackhawk Down. Nearly left halfway through. Yes, it was realistic. If I'd wanted to watch someone get their balls blown off, I would have joined the army myself.
Erin Brokavich...
Closer....
A little OT but saw a sneak preview of Batman Begins last night in Philly and it rocks! But on the flipside can anyone really explain Catwoman? UGH
(And "A Fish Called Wanda" is the perfect comedy")
No time to read the thread. Sue me.
Legs Wide Shut, which casts doubt on the entire life's work, small and dilatory as it is, of Stanley Goldbrick.
Casablanca. Please. Will someone act like a real person in this story?
American Beauty - trite
English Patient - fetishistic, unconsumated love
Titanic
All Woody Allen and his every character sounds like Woody Allen
If there were a Mount Rushmore for godawful movies, BEFORE SUNRISE would be right up there--somewhere between TITANIC and SLACKER.
I HATE Sling Blade - insane killer gets out of asylum, touchingly befriends a young boy, lessons are learned, then he brutally murders the boy's mother's boyfriend and goes back to the asylum.
You can tell what a cheap cowardly, ill-considered movie this is by the ending - you never see the reaction of the mom after her boyfriend is butchered... that would force real, complex emotion into the trance-like state this movie invites you to enter.
Only the New Yorker review treated this soul-dead, brain-dead film with the contempt it deserves.
The fact that it was heaped with universal praise is more proof that most people don't know shit from Shinola.
David Ehrenstein pointed out:
"Seinfeld made hating The English Patient chic."
But nevertheless, it IS a good movie - intelligent, good plot, good characters. And Ralph Fiennes was hot before he was burnt up.
But people who like Seinfeld prefer shallow cleverness to deep human emotions and sincerity. Obviously a majority on this board are Seinfeld people.
But people who like Seinfeld prefer shallow cleverness to deep human emotions and sincerity. Obviously a majority on this board are Seinfeld people.
Yeah, right...people who like Seinfeld are all shallow. As are people who lump together everyone who likes one of the most popular TV shows in the history of network television.
The absurd part of your statement is that you have not only implied the majority on this board are superficial, you've also created a false dichotomy, one where people who can enjoy cynical farce such as Seinfeld (and understand that it is actually a wry reflection on the foibles of its protagonists) are somehow unable to fully appreciate a movie with deep emotions and sincerity.
I HATE Seinfeld.
This thread may mostly be dead, but I thought I would mention....those of you that loved "little Big Man" REALLY owe it to yourselves to read teh book.
It is written, by Thomas Berger (a fantastic author...also try "the Fued" which is hilarious, and weird), in the style of a Mark Twain.
They REALLY missed a lot in the movie.Though I loved the movie too, it ddin't really do justice to the book!
Gond With the Wind, I stop it at the burning of Atlanta so it has a happy ending.
I tend to retitle critically acclaimed movies that I find terrible.
The English Patient "Must Die"
"Get Me" Out of Africa
A Room "Where I can Spew"
Loved "Legs Wide Shut," by the way. Definitely a keeper.
Everything Merchant-Ivory.
Chariots of Fire
Gandhi
Everything by David Lean after Dr. Zhivago (and that's only rescued by a brilliant performance by Rod Steiger).
Huh. I liked American Beauty, but I hated, with righteous fury, Happiness. Every time I think of it, I picture Todd Solondz at a typewriter (yes, a typewriter), chuckling to himself, "Oh, MAN, is this ever gonna freak the squares! Look out, Middle America, here I come!!!"
Gladiator (blech blech blech)
Double Indemnity (blech)
McCabe and Mrs. Miller (you must be kidding)
So hard to narrow it down, but . . .
Ghost -- that pot-throwing scene alone makes me flesh creep. And the little motes of light from heaven.
Steel Magnolias -- die already, Julia.
My vote for Most Overrated Shitty Movie Of All Time has to go to THE DEER HUNTER. After I saw that movie, I clearly saw how it was possible for it's director to make a film so bad it sank an entire studio.
I tend to look for something good in any movie and while I'd agree that many of those named above were pretty boring (i.e.: Merchant Ivory - meh) I don't hate most movies I've seen. I might never watch them again, but that's true of a few movies I've thought were very good (The Killing Fields).
That being said I absolutely loathed "The War of the Roses". It was an awful, awful movie. There was nothing redeeming about the movie.
I didn't get or like "Eyes Wide Shut".
I agree with the comments above about how unfunny "Something About Mary" was.
And re: Streep, I agree mostly that her movies are generally overrated, but I liked her in "Postcards From the Edge".
Million Dollar Baby.
There are others -- Forrest Gump, English Patient, and a whole panoply of overrated dreck -- but few can ever approach the unholy hellishness that is MDB. You couldn't pay me a million dollars to slog through that serbonian cinematic bog again.
OK, maybe a million but it would have to be upfront. And in cash.
You have reminded me of something, David Ehrenstein: 'Prospero's Books' is another film I HATED, and so was 'The cook, the thief ..' although Michael Gambon and Helen Mirren are two of the greatest actors around. And Kristin Scott-Thomas is exquisite in every film she appears in of course!
Flavius Bocephus, very funny comment!
The Cook, the Thief his Wife and her Lover. More wierdness and symbolism forced into a movie then I thought possible.
Gladiator How that won best picture was beyond comprehension.
quiet vehemence) Oh. No. I can't do this any more. I can't. It's too
long. (to the screen) Quit telling your stupid story, about the stupid
desert, and just die already! (louder) Die!!
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