I'MMA LET YOU FINISH

All right. I'll be near first.


GravatarThen I'll be toast!


GravatarFuck! Why can't I never be first?
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Gravatarhttp://www.storewars.org/flash/i...lash/ index.html

grocery store wars


Gravatar16 year old comes out to parents in good faith -- fundies, cock-starved "ex-gays" team up to send him to Maoist hetero re-education camp.

Read the "rules" of that hellhole.


GravatarThe Army's Bungling Recruitment

A retired major general is not happy. Here is the last paragraph.

A strong Army fighting force is essential not only to America's worldwide interests, but indeed to our survival as a nation and the life we enjoy today. But if the decline in our Army's strength continues, make no mistake, we could readily lose that way of life.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ article/2005/06/11/AR2005061100174_pf.html


GravatarHow about Bluegrass for once, instead of rock?

I'm burned out on that screaming, screeching shit anyways. Fuckin' hell.


GravatarWoooooooHoooooooo.

Not first, second, or third,

WooooooooHooooooo.


GravatarRock on!
Rock off!
The Rocker!!!



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GravatarOr as Dylan once wrote: "Get your rocks off, baby, get your rocks off me!"


GravatarAnyone else suspect that the US already has death squads operating in Iraq? Several times a week there seem to be discoveries of graves, around 20 men in each one, blindfolded and shot. Obviously the insurgents have plenty of different tactics and targets but there's a suspicious unformity to this particlar M.O., and lack of any followup by the media.


GravatarStill looking for that blue jean, baby queen
Prettiest girl I ever seen
See her shake on the movie screen, Jimmy Dean


Rock on . . .


GravatarSay, it just crossed my mind, do you think the "ex-gays" in those fundie "straight camps" actually sorta get off on having hoards of nubile gay teens running around playing touch football, that is, when they're not giving their quivering teenaged bodies long, loving hugs after a particularly heated reading of Leviticus?













Naaaah.


GravatarRock-a-bye-baby?


Gravataryou say i live in a bubble;
i find a bubble's best

-st.etienne, SIDE STREETS


GravatarHoward Dean speaks for me!

When I signed this morning, there was about 300 signatures. Now, there's over 3100. On a Saturday!

GO!!!


GravatarOld Hat:

Saw that fascist cult last night. Everybody should take a stand on that crap. It shouldn't be allowed to exist in the light of day without being shamed.


GravatarP. O'Neill: No "think" about it. It's established fact.

Israel trains US assassination squads in Iraq

Julian Borger in Washington
Tuesday December 9, 2003
The Guardian

Israeli advisers are helping train US special forces in aggressive counter-insurgency operations in Iraq, including the use of assassination squads against guerrilla leaders, US intelligence and military sources said yesterday.


GravatarOld Hat:



(Especially the "Leviticus" bit)


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Gravatar16 year old comes out to parents in good faith -- fundies, cock-starved "ex-gays" team up to send him to Maoist hetero re-education camp.

Old Hat,that is one disturbing story you found.

I cant help but think,that if the gop goes on to "win" the next election(more seats) than it may be liberals or middle of the roaders,who wind up in camps like that.Frightening to say the least.My heart goes out to that kid and others in is position.Is there nothing any of us can do to get him out of there?


GravatarD'oh.

Close tags.

Rock on...


Gravatar16 year old comes out to parents in good faith -- fundies, cock-starved "ex-gays" team up to send him to Maoist hetero re-education camp.

Read the "rules" of that hellhole.
Old Hat


Or hell, look at the bottom line: "The cost for the two-week commitment is $1,500 and the cost for the six-week commitment is $4,000."

I guess that's what fundies mean by Jesus being a "profit".


GravatarAnyone else suspect that the US already has death squads operating in Iraq?

I think it's pretty much a fact. There was a front page article in the NYT Magazine about the Iraqi Mukabarat being reactivated. An Iraqi death squad, basically. Then there's this...

Seymour Hersh: "The Salvador Option"

...
and this...

Well, basically, what we have done since -- in the last year, is we have recreated the Iraqi Mukhabarat. This is the heavy-hitting secret police that Saddam ran. We have gone in and recreated many of the members, put them through a little acid test, made them vow that their allegiance – to what? – I guess, to America, or they're no longer Saddamites. In any case, this is our main force right now. This is the force that Allawi controls. This is a force, the former, you know, whatever the guys, whatever you want to call them, the former roughest guys that Saddam had are now working for us. They're our most prominent security force.


Gravatar"But what I want to talk about right now is the living death - that we have right among our midst, not only in the state of Mississippi, but throughout the nation.

Those are the people who don't care.

Those who do care, but don't have the guts enough to stand up for it.

And those people who are busy up in Washington and other places, using my freedom, and my life, to play politics with."



David Dennis, at James Chaney's funeral.


GravatarOr hell, look at the bottom line: "The cost for the two-week commitment is $1,500 and the cost for the six-week commitment is $4,000."

I guess that's what fundies mean by Jesus being a "profit".


I would have figured that turning gay kids straight would pretty much pay for itself, in the many tangible benefits to our country. Like the wedding industry, for example.


GravatarDean:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic National Committee leaders embraced feisty party boss Howard Dean on Saturday and urged him to keep fighting despite a flap over his blunt comments on Republicans.

After a meeting of the DNC's 40-member executive committee at a downtown hotel, members said Dean was doing exactly what they elected him to do -- build the party in all states and aggressively challenge Republicans.

"I hope Governor Dean will remember that he didn't get elected to be a wimp," said DNC member Gilda Cobb-Hunter, a South Carolina state representative. "We have been waiting a long time for someone to stand up for Democrats."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/dean_...HVjBHNlYwNtcA--


GravatarHypocrite Alert!

How dare Howard Dean say my Party is dominated by White Evangelical Christians by Jerry Falwell!


GravatarSaw that fascist cult last night. Everybody should take a stand on that crap.

I wrote Zach a comment in his blog and fired off a heated e-mail to the camp.


GravatarI guess that's what fundies mean by Jesus being a "profit".

You can bet your bottom dollar that outfit is not in it for a profit.4 K for that kind of setting is probably about what it costs them to run something like that.What it really is about is brain washing.How many kids go thru that "program" and come out the other end incoherent fundamentalist ninnies?

I bet at least half.What 16-17 year old can stand up to the pressure of a bunch of adults praising the lord at evey passing of the breeze and not get infected?For that matter,how many adults can stand said treatment?


GravatarJerry Falwell can lick my balls.


GravatarHi, moonbats! Hot and humid here. Time to come in from the garden, drink some iced tea under the ceiling fan, and see what's been going on in the world.


GravatarThanks for the death squad links all. WTF is this "Wolf Brigade" that got hit by one of their own today?


GravatarLike the wedding industry, for example.

Nuh-uh. The wedding industry is behind the push for gay marriage. And man-on-dog or box turtle marriage.


GravatarI am a rock...... I'm such a gneiss woman.

On that poor kid who posted the rules to the brainwashing camp - probably not a damn thing. He's 16. Parents can control a lot of his life legally, unless a court says otherwise.


GravatarI was watching Rod Paisley on the Jesus Channel yesterday (nothing else was on, and sometimes those guys are just too weird not to be funny.). At some point he was actually miming smoking a crack pipe and saying things like "I don't have to marry the woman I'm with! [mimed crack pipe hit . . .] I can just go to bed with her!

And then in his big televangelist way he started chanting "PUT THE CRAYUCK PIPE DOW-UN! PUT IT DOW-UN!"


GravatarNuh-uh. The wedding industry is behind the push for gay marriage. And man-on-dog or box turtle marriage.

No, no, no. If gay marriage is legalized, straight marriage will lose such prestige that only gay people will want to get married anymore.


GravatarVestal -

That's probally because Paisley is doing the exact thing he mimicks in his sermons.


GravatarOpen means we can talk about anything, right? Well, then, just to brag, my dog knows sit-stay - and I have PROOF!

World O' Words blog

(Oh, and Bush Sucks - but that's a given...)


Gravatarhadenough quotes:

"I hope Governor Dean will remember that he didn't get elected to be a wimp," said DNC member Gilda Cobb-Hunter, a South Carolina state representative. "We have been waiting a long time for someone to stand up for Democrats."

I was listening to a bit of All Things Considered yesterday talking about Dean. They interviewed a Dem chair from...can't quite remember, Kentucky or Tennessee, who said: (paraphrase) "I didn't vote for Dean to head up the party but after he came here and listened to us I knew he was good for us."

Damn straight.


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GravatarHow many kids go thru that "program" and come out the other end incoherent fundamentalist ninnies?

How many kids come out feeling depressed or commit suicide or try to escape those feelings of guilt and shame by falling into the crystal-meth-sex-party-HIV black hole?

Seriously, these "gay re-education" motherfuckers are harming society with this insane Gestapo bullshit.


GravatarNuh-uh. The wedding industry is behind the push for gay marriage. And man-on-dog or box turtle marriage.

Did you know the wedding industry is dominated by faceless malevolont corporations headquartered along the Jersey Turnpike? True story.


GravatarEli,EXACTLY!



Those are the people who don't care.

One thing we should understand here.How many people are addicted to drugs,I wonder?Is there even a concensus on the number.My wild ass guess is,its close to the number of people not voting....

Get my drift?

Lets not go off on a tangent too badly about the people in this country that dont vote.


GravatarThat poor kid! Any Atriots in his area that could act as or steer him to a good lawyer? I understand some states have provisions that teens can declare themselves independent of their parents at 16 or 17, at least to the extent of choosing a place to live.

No teen should be involuntarily committed in any kind of program without legal representation.


GravatarNo, no, no. If gay marriage is legalized, straight marriage will lose such prestige that only gay people will want to get married anymore.


Are you kidding? The gay couples I know will throw such weddings! Ice sculptures! Elaborate napkins! Color-themed confetti! Shit, gay marriage could turn this economy around in about a year. No standing out in the cornfield in a home-made dress for them. ~glances around~ Um, not that I, you know, actually know anyone who made her own dress and got married in a cornfield.


Gravatarif the decline in our Army's strength continues, make no mistake, we could readily lose that way of life.

But,but...the GOP supports the troops! Jesus told me so!


GravatarRichard... what a Dick.


GravatarI'm burned out on that screaming, screeching shit anyways. Fuckin' hell.
Ba®ndog


Hey, hey! I got Blue Jays onna CD mochine as we speak. It don't scream, it don't screech, but it do rock. You've been listening to the wrong shit, Barnie.
That said, a li'l BG never hurt nobody. (Too much, though, and you can almost hear your teeth turning green, and corndogs start to look like food...)


GravatarSo long as the bride doesn't wear a pants suit.


GravatarJesus told me so!

Dam,taht reminds me of the phrase that we all have been seeing in churches.

Jesus loves me this I konw for the bible tells me so.

What a fucking crock!You have to read the bible to know that jesus loves you,yet you wont read the bible if you dont know jesus loves you.Talk about your catch 22!

This is where churches come into play.THey get ya early so you wont recognise the conundrum.

Luckily me smart ,me see thru charade.


GravatarDon't you be goin' dissin' no corndogs now.

I will pull out mah rusty chainsaw and go all Cooter Jones on yer ass.


GravatarAnyone else suspect that the US already has death squads operating in Iraq? Several times a week there seem to be discoveries of graves, around 20 men in each one, blindfolded and shot. Obviously the insurgents have plenty of different tactics and targets but there's a suspicious unformity to this particlar M.O., and lack of any followup by the media.

you bet they do, both military, cia, and civilian contractors...

and everybody knows it...

you notice when the 'insurgents' are responsible for the atocities, there seems always to be an account of witnesses or some such...

but not every time...

and of course death squads use the chaos to cover their tracks...tiger force in nam, operation phoenix...

john Deathsquad" FUCKING Negroponte's in charge, for the love of fucking jeezis...

hello???

bang bang bang

anybody home?


GravatarDon't you be goin' dissin' no corndogs now.

I will pull out mah rusty chainsaw and go all Cooter Jones on yer ass.
Ba®ndog


That seems a bit extreme. Are they relatives?


GravatarConservative = hates gays


GravatarAre they relatives?


Only in northeastern Arkansas and that little part of Missouri where they intersect fer a piece.


GravatarEli--I'm stuck at my PT job in Swissvale, waiting for the rain to stop. Mebbe I'll get over to school SOMETIME.

The late start I got on this day is truly "the gift that keeps on giving"...


Gravatarbang bang bang

anybody home?



(best animal house voice)



Who's there?

You'll have to come baaack...We're doin the diiishes!


GravatarOh, and f**k Bush.


GravatarEli--I'm stuck at my PT job in Swissvale, waiting for the rain to stop. Mebbe I'll get over to school SOMETIME.

It's raining?


GravatarSupport Howard Dean!

and the MC5!

and fuck Hudson's!


GravatarBe back in a bit,gotta run a service call.


GravatarMy local public radio plays bluegrass all Sunday afternoon. Wouldn't mind the music if they just wouldn't sing. Oh, well. I need some time with the radio off to practice on the psaltry and the gemshorn. (Not simultaneously, mind you. I don't have that many hands.)


GravatarAnyone else suspect that the US already has death squads operating in Iraq? Several times a week there seem to be discoveries of graves, around 20 men in each one, blindfolded and shot. Obviously the insurgents have plenty of different tactics and targets but there's a suspicious unformity to this particlar M.O., and lack of any followup by the media.
P O'Neill
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But negroponte is back home.


GravatarIt's raining?

Pouring, actually.

This public service brought to you by Captain Goto...

(Hey, Santorum was right. Who NEEDS the National Weather Service, anyway?)


GravatarHoratio sez:

Conservative = hates gays

Unless Conservative = gay
Therefore: Conservative gays sell out fellows for power and prestige.

See: Mehlman, Ken; Finkelstein, Arthur; Bush, George W.

(yeah, yeah, lousy syllogism get off my back philosophy dweebs )


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GravatarBe back in a bit,gotta run a service call.
smalfish 5:25 pm

cuidando, amigo...


GravatarNight of the Lepus
OMG, now THERE was a classic. Straight from CBS late night, before Sajak/Letterman...


GravatarHmm...anyone hear from Poindexter lately?

Antiterror Head Will Help Name an F.B.I. Leader

By DAVID JOHNSTON

WASHINGTON, June 11 - Under pressure from the White House, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has agreed to adopt the recommendations of a presidential commission and will allow the director of national intelligence, John D. Negroponte, to help choose a powerful intelligence chief at the F.B.I., Bush administration officials say.

The appointment would for the first time in the bureau's history give an outsider a significant role in the selection of a high-level official at the F.B.I., an agency long regarded by its critics as fiercely protective of its turf and resistant to change. The intelligence chief, who will be chosen jointly by Mr. Negroponte and the director of the F.B.I., Robert S. Mueller III, would have the tentative title of associate director for intelligence and in effect be the third-ranking official at the bureau.

(snip)


GravatarBut negroponte is back home.

yeah but his team got the Italian secret service guy just before he left.


GravatarHow dare Howard Dean say my Party is dominated by White Evangelical Christians by Jerry Falwell!



GravatarCaptain Goto -

Yinzer? Yikes!


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GravatarPouring, actually.

This public service brought to you by Captain Goto...

(Hey, Santorum was right. Who NEEDS the National Weather Service, anyway?)


Dang. This could fuck up softball tomorrow.

I think I remember seeing a "weather rock" in a novelty catalog a long time ago. Something like, "If Weather Rock is hot, it's sunny. If Weather Rock is wet, it's raining. If Weather Rock is white, it's snowing..."


GravatarWar is Hell

my 9/11 story. i was wash'n windows. got in the car to drive to the next job, heard the report on the local rock station. thought it was a stupid joke, like they always do on those pablum am shows. but then an NBC corespondent broke in and i knew it was for real. my second job was a chinese restaraunt. interestingly the the fry cooks were veitnamese, boss was late, door was locked and they sat their waiting. first thing they asked was "did i hear" and i said yes, shocked discussion ensued. a few minutes later an older guy popped out from the shop next door where his wife was having her hair done. all blustery, identified himself as a ret. general. said "we're gonna get those bastards" i said "yea, but we don't know who those bastards are". he said "oh, we know" but he didn't. he stormed off, seemingly miffed.

the fry cooks seemed about my age. and they had already told me they had come from veitnam. i knew they had been young teenagers when the war raged on. i asked them about it. though they had been quite animated and cordial when i first showed up they muttered something unintelligible beneath their breath. end of discussion, i washed my windows, went home hugged my wife and child and watched the pics on tv.

a couple of years later pres. dumbass attacked the wrong fuck'n country. i hate that bastard.

any way read the link. Chris Hedges, is a much better writer than me.


GravatarHmm...anyone hear from Poindexter lately?

He mind on fire, he soul on fire, feeling hot hot hot.


Gravatarand this, after they released the men who raped her:

Pakistan Rape Victim's Movement Restricted

By KHALID TANVEER,

MULTAN, Pakistan - A Pakistani woman who was gang-raped on orders from a village council asked the government on Saturday to lift restrictions on her movement.

Mukhtar Mai, 36, said she had suddenly been included without explanation on a government list of people who cannot leave Pakistan.

"Now, police deployed at my home for my protection are not allowing me to go anywhere," Mai told The Associated Press by phone from Meerwala, a village about 350 miles southwest of Islamabad where she lives with her family.

"I demand that all restrictions on my movement be lifted so that I could travel to Islamabad to meet with my lawyer," she said.

(snip)

Keep up the good work, Musharraf! Those gang-raped women certainly present a dire threat to the world at large.


GravatarHe mind on fire, he soul on fire, feeling hot hot hot.

Don't get sassy with me, Buster.


GravatarDr. Dean's prescription: Time to kick some ass


GravatarLooking at the Kos live Dean blogging - here's something from his speech today...

"We are not going to lie down in front of the Republican machine anymore."

Go. Howard.

*I'll bring more over in minute.


Gravatarall blustery, identified himself as a ret. general. said "we're gonna get those bastards" i said "yea, but we don't know who those bastards are". he said "oh, we know" but he didn't.

'Sfunny, I pegged it as OBL right off the bat, and I didn't know *shit*.


GravatarYep, just call me the Weather Rock...


GravatarKeep up the good work, Musharraf! Those gang-raped women certainly present a dire threat to the world at large.

Maybe they're afraid of a Gang Rape Gap.


GravatarWow. This reflects us!

"Also says "In the last coulple of days over 100,000$'s has been raised over the internet unsolicited. People want us to fight...we are not going to lay down in front of the Republicans any more."


GravatarEli, I think watertiger wants you to put a little more brilliantine in that pompadour...


GravatarDean: "The right to vote in this country is under attack."


Gravatar"We are not going to lie down in front of the Republican machine anymore."

"Do you have *any* idea how much damage this bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?"

"No, how much?"

"None whatsoever."


GravatarMy Dad just called me...my sister and 2 of her kids are on the way in from Austin.


GravatarWell, that's all. I guess it was a short speech...


GravatarEli, I think watertiger wants you to put a little more brilliantine in that pompadour...

Yes, this might be an appropriate circumstance.

My Dad just called me...my sister and 2 of her kids are on the way in from Austin.

Is that good or bad?


GravatarMartinez off the reservation???

From St Pete Times, via Josh Marshall:


U.S. Sen. Mel Martinez said Friday that the Bush administration should consider Sen. Joseph Biden's suggestion to shut down the U.S. military's prison camp on Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

He also criticized the administration and Congress for paying little attention to growing Latin American problems and lamented the slow progress in Iraq.
[snip]
Martinez, a lawyer, added, "It's not very American, by the way, to be holding people indefinitely...."
[snip]

"The administration has been very remiss for the last four years in its direction toward Latin America to their great consternation now," Martinez said.
[snip]
Martinez, who backed the war in Iraq during his Senate campaign, raised questions about the progress there.

"I am discouraged by how long it has taken for us to begin to draw down some forces," he said. "I would have thought by now, and I think in a clearer moment that the president and (Defense) Secretary (Donald) Rumsfeld would have thought that by now we would be in a position to be able to draw down some forces. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case."


GravatarMy local public radio plays bluegrass all Sunday afternoon. Wouldn't mind the music if they just wouldn't sing.

There ya go. I think that's what I was tryin' to say.
I mean, try to imagine luegrass done acapella.....no, don't.


GravatarIt's good. They're on their way to their summer place in New England, stopping in for a night or two. My nephew had his tonsils out so they left him home with Dad for a few more days, to heal up.


GravatarNo, how much?"

"None whatsoever."
Eli -- 5:36 pm


only a man with grace of a Vogon poet would gratuitously throw fewer than 42 H2G2 references into a random comment...errr, that is...


GravatarDad in this case meaning my bro-in-law...My Dad wouldn't last 10 minutes looking after a teenager.


GravatarIt's good. They're on their way to their summer place in New England, stopping in for a night or two.

Excellent. Have fun! I have an impending reunion with my grandma, mom, uncle, and two young cousins in August in SoCal - am hoping to maybe orchestrate mini-get-together with the SoCal Atriots.


GravatarDean: "The right to vote in this country is under attack."
Jenny from the ßlog •


And the right of this country to attack is not under vote...


GravatarTHAT's why the repugs are winning...we have no Vogon poets to sic on 'em.


GravatarVestal Vespa, do you have a larger copy of the photo that you use as the header on your site?


Gravataronly a man with grace of a Vogon poet would gratuitously throw fewer than 42 H2G2 references into a random comment...errr, that is...

You've obviously seen me play softball.


GravatarEli -

I'm in the Venice/Santa Monica/Malibu area, but that's quite a distance from the South Bay, which is where I think you'll be. And the rest of the SoCal Atriots are in the Valley, as far as I know. Another world! But keep in touch if you think it's possible to have a visit...


GravatarFor all the Atriots in Massachusetts.


GravatarDean: "The right to vote in this country is under attack."
Jenny from the ßlog •

And the right of this country to attack is not under vote...


If you do not learn to master your rage... you, uh, can't get fooled again.


GravatarThanks, Eli. My kid and I will be joining them in late July.

I have an uncle in SoCal...he keeps talking about moving back east, but never seems to arrange it. Have fun yourself!


GravatarRed Tide
Words by Neil Peart, Music by Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson

nature has some new plague
to run in our streets
history some new wrinkle
we are doomed to repeat
fugitives at the bedroom door
lovers pause to find an open store
rain is burning on the forest floor
and the red tide kisses the shore

THIS IS NOT A FALSE ALARM
THIS IS NOT A TEST

stay out of the sun
it only burns my skin
sky full of poison
and the atmosphere's too thin
bless the sun, the rain no more
river running like an open sore
black wind falling to the ocean floor
and the red tide washes ashore




THIS IS NOT A FALSE ALARM
THIS IS NOT A TEST
Nowhere we can fly away
Nowhere we can rest
The party is disrupted by
An uninvited guest

deadline approaches
for the weary land
it used to be something
but we let it run down in our hands
too late for debate, too bad to ignore
quiet rebellion leads to open war
bring a sea-change to the factory floor
as the red tide covers the shore

Now's the time to turn the tide
Now's the time to fight
Let us not go gently
To the endless winter night
Now's the time to make the time
While hope is still in sight
Let us not go gently
To the endless winter night


GravatarI'm in the Venice/Santa Monica/Malibu area, but that's quite a distance from the South Bay, which is where I think you'll be. And the rest of the SoCal Atriots are in the Valley, as far as I know. Another world! But keep in touch if you think it's possible to have a visit...

I think I understood the last two sentences... I'll be in SD/La Jolla.


Gravatarcuidando, amigo...

Man that was a cheesey way to make 35 bucks.

More like that ,PLEASE!


GravatarPodwhore: In which NTodd listens to Bush's misinformation about Social Security in his weekly radio address and examines how that's playing in The Heartland. (5:59)


GravatarEli: I think I understood the last two sentences... I'll be in SD/La Jolla.

Hee hee. Sorry bout that. San Diego is about 3 hours from me. Southern California is huge!


Gravatar16 year old comes out to parents in good faith -- fundies, cock-starved "ex-gays" team up to send him to Maoist hetero re-education camp.

Read the "rules" of that hellhole.


Does not give one much confidence when they can not even spell what they purport to treat. Promescuity

How the hell can parents do something like this to their child?


GravatarDean Tells Dems: 'People Want Us to Fight'

In his remarks, Dean made few references to the recent brouhaha.

But when a DNC member joked that the best way to get the chairman's attention was to "jump up and down," a grinning Dean fired back: "That's my job."

The crowd of Democratic activists burst into applause.


Give 'em Hell, Howard!


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Gravatari went to la jolla once! can't remember why. it's very pleasant though.


GravatarSmalfish, sometimes you DO eat the bear. Good on ya.


GravatarHee hee. Sorry bout that. San Diego is about 3 hours from me. Southern California is huge!

No worries. CA is huge all over. Even the governator is huge! Hopefully the rest of the state is not as... saggy.


Gravatar(releases safety on umbrella)

I think I'll venture out into the maelstrom....later, moonbats!


GravatarEven the governator is huge!

You can thank the steroids for that. And for the saggy breasts. And small dick.


GravatarMe likey the bear!


GravatarI'm in the Venice/Santa Monica/Malibu area

o, lucky Jenny from the blog!

i lived for a little while in Santa Monica, below the bluffs...

i miss the ocean like a lost limb, sometimes...sometimes, it can sparkle just like salty champagne...
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GravatarYou can thank the steroids for that. And for the saggy breasts. And small dick.

Thank you, steroids!

*wave at cheerfully*


Gravatar(releases safety on umbrella)


NOoooooooooooooooo!


Gravatari went to la jolla once! can't remember why. it's very pleasant though.

last time I was there, the ice flowers (?) were in bloom - vast swaths of purple blanketing lawns and spilling over rock walls...


GravatarEven the governator is huge!

So are his wife's...cheek bones! And sharp too--you can shave with them things.


Gravataryeah, watertiger. i don't know what kind of flowers were out, but they were lots of them. it was a long time ago. i just have a memory of a general pleasantness about la jolla.


GravatarAre we still rocking on?

As in Rock of ages!










Still rolling.


GravatarSo are his wife's...cheek bones! And sharp too--you can shave with them things.

You can thank Dr. Silicon for those.


GravatarSo are his wife's...cheek bones! And sharp too--you can shave with them things.

I am now having a mental image that would be very unkind of me to share...


Gravatarlast time I was there, the ice flowers (?) were in bloom - vast swaths of purple blanketing lawns and spilling over rock walls...
watertiger -5:51 pm


iceplant

the single largest contribution of caltrans to the beautification of SoCal transportation corridors
#


GravatarRE:consider Sen. Joseph Biden's suggestion to shut down the U.S. military's prison camp on Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.


Something to consider before we summarily execute him.


GravatarROCKING ON WITH HIGH CHEEK BONES!

I could use that women... I'm in florida and I forgot my shaver in NYC.


GravatarI am now having a mental image that would be very unkind of me to share...

What? You dont like Maria?


GravatarEli,

It's been many years ago (1980's), but I do remember taking the train from the station in downtown San Diego to LA.

There was a lot of changes the last time I was there (1994)and I can't remember if the trains were still running. The station was still there, but I can't recall if rails were still in place.

regards

.


Gravatarwoody/kono -

Oh, I hope you get to visit a body of water soon (with giant waves!).

Later, beauteous ones!
*


GravatarWhat? You dont like Maria?

Facial hair is not the only hair that can be shaved.

I'll say no more.


Gravatarthe single largest contribution of caltrans to the beautification of SoCal transportation corridors

So,your saying the iceplant is to california what junior is to the world?


Gravatar'Sfunny, I pegged it as OBL right off the bat, and I didn't know *shit*.
Eli

well, who knows, maybe he did know. i didn't, for sure tho those two veitnamese fry cooks knew; War is Hell. it was one thing to go into afghanistan, quite another to lie to the american people and attack a country unprovoked. with seemingly no compunction about the consequences.

and holy hell ecoast, to think i have lamented martinez as my new senator, but bush is pissing off a lot of people.


GravatarIt's been many years ago (1980's), but I do remember taking the train from the station in downtown San Diego to LA.

Public transit? In SoCal? Isn't that un-American?


GravatarI'll say no more.

and waxing hurts.


GravatarRE:consider Sen. Joseph Biden's suggestion to shut down the U.S. military's prison camp on Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Something to consider before we summarily execute him.
blerb


If consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, Biden is up there with Deep Thought...


GravatarThere was a lot of changes the last time I was there (1994)and I can't remember if the trains were still running. The station was still there, but I can't recall if rails were still in place..
Moad-Dib 5:56 pm


unless the rains have washed out the tracks, the trains still run, hourly i think, from LA to SD, stopping at some of those cool old beach towns, like Capistrano, and DelMar (Race track)...well, that was three years ago...


GravatarFacial hair is not the only hair that can be shaved.

I'll say no more.


C'mon dude, we're dying here.....Do tell!


Gravatarand waxing hurts.


only if you have a sandy surfboard.


Gravatarit was one thing to go into afghanistan, quite another to lie to the american people and attack a country unprovoked. with seemingly no compunction about the consequences.

I was okay with invading Afghanistan in principle, but not the way we went about it (delegate critical objective of OBL capture to warlords; no effort to control or rebuild anything outside Kabul).


Gravatar
Public transit? In SoCal? Isn't that un-American?


Silly. California isn't in America. California is practically France!


GravatarThe vanquished know the essence of war – death. They grasp that war is necrophilia. They see that war is a state of almost pure sin with its goals of hatred and destruction. They know how war fosters alienation, leads inevitably to nihilism, and is a turning away from the sanctity and preservation of life. All other narratives about war too easily fall prey to the allure and seductiveness of violence, as well as the attraction of the godlike power that comes with the license to kill with impunity.

from my link War is Hell, i thought well worth the read.

Peace.


GravatarI'm starting to worry about myself.

I seem to be unable to "rock on" and "keep it real" at the same time. I don't have a telephone that takes pictures. Is that the reason?


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GravatarIf you support Howard Dean, go and sign the " Howard Dean speaks for me" petition of support. Let him know!

http://www.petitiononline.com/De...n/ petition.html

When Howard speaks, America listens


Gravatarloco-
I can't find the original photo.
Thanks for stopping by, tho.


GravatarC'mon dude, we're dying here.....Do tell!

Ms. Tigre has provided a hint...

Silly. California isn't in America. California is practically France!

Oh, great. I so look forward to ordering "freedom rolls" the next time I go out for sushi...


GravatarIt's been many years ago (1980's), but I do remember taking the train from the station in downtown San Diego to LA.

It's not a bad ride: about an hour. When my friends came over for a conference in San Diego, they flew direct to LAX and got the train, rather than change planes.


Gravatar"Public transit? In SoCal? Isn't that un-American?"

As opposed to sitting on the Interstate, inching one's way to a turn off a few hundred feet away for over an hour? People tend get out of the way/make room for a train faster than they do when I'm in my car on the interstate.

regards

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GravatarOkay, I made dinner and played Orange Ball (Yellow Ball's gone missing), and did some more pruning. What'd I miss?


Gravatarwhat's going on here?


GravatarI seem to be unable to "rock on" and "keep it real" at the same time. I don't have a telephone that takes pictures. Is that the reason?

Well, if you can't do both, you need to think about which one is more important to you.


GravatarIt's not a bad ride: about an hour

Does the train do 130 MPH?


GravatarI so look forward to ordering "freedom rolls" the next time I go out for sushi...

you need to start eating good American barbecued sushi on white bread, like they do in Kansas. Elitist.


Gravatarand waxing hurts.
watertiger


No no! Waxing is fun!. More wax please!
My girlfriend's name is Waxine. She's got



























Simon Eyes.


GravatarOkay, I made dinner and played Orange Ball (Yellow Ball's gone missing), and did some more pruning. What'd I miss?


That sucker branch about three feet from the top.


GravatarI seem to be unable to "rock on" and "keep it real" at the same time. I don't have a telephone that takes pictures. Is that the reason?


dude, what you need is a 42" plasma TV.


GravatarGWPDA sez:

What'd I miss?

Just young white women. But who doesn't?


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Gravatari miss the ocean like a lost limb, sometimes...sometimes, it can sparkle just like salty champagne...

that was always my problem with NM. of course miami beach is starting to make the high desert look like a viable option.

elk mountain, 14,000 feet at it's peak. that should get me away from the idjiots.


GravatarI note that Donna Brazile can always be trusted for that 'privately...' comment. Ugh.


GravatarWhat'd I miss?

The GOP hates Elmo.


Gravatarwhat's going on here?

There is something going on here!


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GravatarI seem to be unable to "rock on" and "keep it real" at the same time. I don't have a telephone that takes pictures. Is that the reason?

It might help to "talk to the hand." And please remember, "don't go there." "To the extreme," of course.


GravatarIt's not a bad ride: about an hour

Does the train do 130 MPH?
Chauncy Gardner -6:04 pm


mebbe 90 mins, but most of it is right along the coast, right beside the beach...

doesn't need to, though technically the trains is capable of such speed, flat out, on the plains on a good roadbed...

SoCal has none of those...plus stops, and crossings...it get's slower the closer to the border you get, iirc

but the distance isn't bad...it's probably no more than 60 miles from Station to Station


GravatarIt might help to "talk to the hand." And please remember, "don't go there." "To the extreme," of course.

Oh, no you di'n't!


Gravatar of course miami beach is starting to make the high desert look like a viable option.

No shit. I never really liked Miami,to begin with.But the last time I was there (a couple years ago) it was like all traffic and no land anywhere.Traffic all the way up to the everglades.

Ugg! I used to live in S.FL.Never again! That place is a festering sore on the face of the freeking planet.


GravatarJoyce!

Arthur would like your permission to take Maggie out dancing? Watertiger as chaparone?


GravatarMy local public radio plays bluegrass all Sunday afternoon. Wouldn't mind the music if they just wouldn't sing.
Ahianne


Look. It's one thing to say here that George Bush is a fine President. It's another to say that Dick Cheney is a warm, fuzzy bear of a man who loves his country.

But don't go hating on Ralph Stanley, or Lester Flatt, or Mother Maybelle.



How about Bluegrass for once, instead of rock?
Ba®ndog




In that vein - I don't remember where I saw it, but I saw some music video recently that looked like a "Dukes of Hazzard" parody, to a bluegrass version of Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots are Made for Walking." Bizarre - I do NOT recommend watching it sober.


GravatarI note that Donna Brazile can always be trusted for that 'privately...' comment. Ugh.

Donna Brazile is a fucking idiot.


GravatarI stand corrected. It's three hours from LA to SD. My friends were bullshitting me.


GravatarYeah, the ride along the coast between LA and SD is a different California experience compared with driving on the Interstate.

regards

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GravatarSimon Eyes.
Shiny Happy Weasel -- 6:05 pm


carnuba serious for once? from anybody with less polish, that'd deserve Turtle whax...


GravatarDonna Brazile is a fucking idiot.

Ya,but shes white ,and IIRC,blonde.


GravatarGWPDA sez:

Arthur would like your permission to take Maggie out dancing? Watertiger as chaparone?

watertiger as chaparone? That would be like giving a child matches!

[ducks]


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GravatarIt's been many years ago (1980's), but I do remember taking the train from the station in downtown San Diego to LA.

Me too, me too! From LA went to the San Diego station and then to the Hotel Del. So pretty, that whole ride, just lovely.


GravatarI like to wax my thighs, then watch Bob's viagra-infested dick keeping falling down.
-Liddy Dole


GravatarOh, I dunno. They didn't mind taking it down, anyway. And they're Brits, so they have half-decent standards for trains.


GravatarWhen Howard speaks, America listens

ok, i'm no. 3,451. i'm still glad he's not president. oh wait, no i'm not. goddamn you John Kerry.

hit 'em with the train Howard.


GravatarJAC,

Ever heard of a bluegrass band called Hayseed Dixie?

They only do covers of AC/DC songs.


Gravatar"of course miami beach is starting to make the high desert look like a viable option."

If you are in need of a high vantage in point in Miami, be sure to check out Mt. Trashmore east of Homestead....it's reputed to be the highest peak in all of Florida...at least it was when I was there before the big one in 1991 or 2.

Yeah...it's one big pile of trash..had to see it myself.

regards

.


Gravatarcarnuba serious for once? from anybody with less polish, that'd deserve Turtle whax...

Armour all against the whole polishing concept,so leave me out of it.


GravatarUgg! I used to live in S.FL.Never again! That place is a festering sore on the face of the freeking planet.

hard to believe but it's getting worse. what's more, i think it's a prime location for attack no. 2.


GravatarRaymond Chandler said "La Jolla is where old people go to live with their parents."


GravatarEver heard of a bluegrass band called Hayseed Dixie?

They only do covers of AC/DC songs.


I think I prefer the Dread Zeppelin cover of Ramble On to the original...


GravatarDon't forget to go to the Hotel on Coranado Island..the one where Thomas Edison personally had a hand in wiring the electricity way back then.

regards

.


GravatarArnie's only 5'10" or so. He isn't all that big.

Eli:
The preferred method is to take a pot of water outside with you. If you see a bright golden light reflected in its surface, it'll be sunny. If you turn it upside down and the water doesn't come out, cold weather is coming. And if you see little rings coming and going, the precipitation probability is greater than 50%.

And, the next time I hear about how secular humanists are ruining the country, I will, in my dreams, line up every last fucking sky pilot and Bible thumper in the country, including our president, and ask them to explain to the American people, on record, in as much time as they need, exactly how they feel about that goddamned (I use the term literally) gay reeducation camp, and if they would send their children there. Not even Jesus would forgive what they do. It needs to be brought out into the open and called by its name.

The analogy between civil rights for gays and earlier (and ongoing) struggles against racism seems to me stronger every day. This isn't a debate over gay marriage. Never was. And anyone who refuses to take a stand on this isn't worth a hair on that boy's head.


Gravatarwatertiger as chaparone? That would be like giving a child matches!

[ducks]


Nah, I'll be too busy playing with the matches myself.


GravatarThey only do covers of AC/DC songs.
Not entirely true. They also do other '70s guitar rock like ACDC and KISS as bluegrass and have an "alter ego" band that retools bluegrass traditionals as rock songs.

If they every come to town it's a pretty good show, though I don't know that I'd ever buy a CD.


GravatarIt's the Pacific Surfliner and you can connect from the Metrolink no less!


GravatarI love Dread Zeppelin. I saw them live about 10 years ago and had a blast.


GravatarThe preferred method is to take a pot of water outside with you. If you see a bright golden light reflected in its surface, it'll be sunny. If you turn it upside down and the water doesn't come out, cold weather is coming. And if you see little rings coming and going, the precipitation probability is greater than 50%.

Jeeze ,who needs accuweather when you have that kind of forecasting in your own back yard?


GravatarNah, I'll be too busy playing with the matches myself.

Note to self: Keep matches in pockets.


Gravatarwatertiger, did you see the picture above, of Maggie the Samoyed? Cuuuuuute.....


Gravatar"i think it's a prime location for attack no. 2."

When I was there in the late 80's, the locals felt they were already being attacked...refugees from all the carribean islands. There was an serious love/hate relationship with the Cubans too that was quite obvious and apparent.

regards

.


Gravatar
and did some more pruning. What'd I miss?
GWPDA, Irate Scholar

Using Maria Shriver's sharp cheek bones to do some shaving...


Gravatarand did some more pruning. What'd I miss?
GWPDA, Irate Scholar

Using Maria Shriver's sharp cheek bones to do some shaving...


But don't ask where. Seriously.


GravatarAckk I meant Aerosmith, (ACDC)


GravatarThose gay re-education camps for young gays makes them crazy. They don't work and should clearly be illegal but since it's fucking up fags, nobody cares. And don't give me the shit, I care. Most who post here don't give a shit and the rest of the country, by far, don't give a shit.


GravatarBut don't ask where. Seriously.

Ok , but why not?


Using Maria Shriver's sharp cheek bones to do some shaving...

And thats Ms Gropenfurher to you!


GravatarGWPDA, no! Where?

Samoyeds. Cuuuuute!


GravatarRE:If consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, Biden is up there with Deep Thought...
Doozer


Just sayin', he does have his uses -- unlike his fellow CT senator, who is, in fact, completely useless.


GravatarCarpbasman,

Didn't know that. And yeah, I'd go see them if they came to town.


GravatarBut negroponte is back home.
magnolia's propaganda ministry


So when do they start here?


GravatarEver heard of a bluegrass band called Hayseed Dixie?
Central Scrutinizer


Heard OF them, but don't recall ever hearing their music.

It was bad enough when the Osborne Brothers, a REAL bluegrass act, covered Nazareth's "Love Hurts." That's just wrong.

Do like the Dread, though.

If you haven't come across it, there was a tribute to Bruce's "Nebraska" known as "Badlands." Well worth a listen.

And a few weeks ago Lucy Kaplansky was in town, and we picked up a copy of "Going Driftless," a tribute to Greg Brown.

No matter what else Greg does in his life, "Lord I have made you a place in my heart" means he did not live in vain. The only "post-modern gospel song" as Dar Williams describes it:

Oh Lord, I have made you a place in my heart among the rags and the bones and the dirt.
There's piles of lies, the love gone from her eyes, and old moving boxes full of hurt.
Pull up a chair by the trouble and care. I got whiskey, you're welcome to some.
Oh Lord, I have made you a place in my heart, but I don't reckon you're gonna come.

I've tried to fix up the place, I know it's a disgrace, you get used to it after a while.
With the flood and the drought and old pals hanging out with their IOU's and their smiles.
Bare naked women keep coming in and they dance like you wouldn't believe.
Oh Lord, I have made you a place in my heart, so take a good look - and then leave.

Oh Lord, why does the Fall get colder each year?
Lord, why can't I learn to love? Lord, if you made me, it's easy to see that you all make mistakes up above.
But if I open the door, you will know I'm poor and my secrets are all that I own.
Oh Lord, I have made you a place in my heart and I hope that you leave it alone.



Lucinda Williams, Ani DiFranco, Shawn Colvin, Gillian Welch, and Chapin Carpenter are just a few of the contributors. If you like that genre, go for it.


GravatarMost who post here don't give a shit and the rest of the country, by far, don't give a shit.

Did you read that kids blog?

There was over 200 somments to his post.That makes me think theres more support for gays than you let on.But lets not go there.THere was quite a few comments on this thread alone.


Gravatarkelley b., read your post below. What's happening?


GravatarSaw this at AP:

...(Former Democratic Governor Gray Davis) said he erred by buying power at inflated rates during the height of the crisis, but said he acted because he "wasn't willing to risk" sustained blackouts.

"Did it turn out to be a mistake? Yes," Davis said during a speech Friday before the Commonwealth Club of California in San Francisco.

Davis blamed bad advice from the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission as he tried to respond to manipulation of the state's energy market by traders from Enron Corp. and other energy companies.

"When I ran for governor in '98, not a single human being asked me about electricity," Davis said at a conference on finding ways to reform California government and politics. "I knew nothing about electricity. ... I wish I knew as much about electricity then as I do now."

Davis said the state's 1996 deregulation law, signed by GOP Gov. Pete Wilson, was a "colossal mistake" that allowed unethical energy traders to rip off consumers in the "the biggest robbery since the Brink's robbery."

He also criticized federal energy regulators for failing to stop Enron traders from practices like urging that power plants be shut down to drive up electricity costs.

"Enron (traders) were like the old wildcatters," Davis said of the company now in bankruptcy protection. "They had no care about tomorrow. They just wanted to sweep every nickel, every dime out of California because they had no idea how long this party would last."


And the headline to the AP story?

Former Gov. Gray Davis admits errors in state's power crisis

The breathless lede?

Former Gov. Gray Davis now admits he was unprepared for the 2000-2001 energy crisis that sent electricity bills soaring, brought rolling blackouts, and ultimately helped bring an early end to his political career.

Fucking whores.


GravatarCS sez:

Ever heard of a bluegrass band called Hayseed Dixie?

They only do covers of AC/DC songs.


Just checked them out. Somewhat amusing but...gets old real fast (IMHO).


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GravatarOh, don't speak out on behalf of gays. Wouldn't want them to think you're a fag, you know. Oh wait, they're already framing it that all democrats are fags while you don't speak up, so too late....


GravatarI seem to be unable to "rock on" and "keep it real" at the same time. I don't have a telephone that takes pictures. Is that the reason?

Well, if you can't do both, you need to think about which one is more important to you.
Eli


Rock on!!!!!!


GravatarDid anybody see the Sensenbrenner nightmare yesterday? There's a good, albeit disturbing interview of Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee by Randi Rhodes.
link here


GravatarThere was over 200 somments to his post.That makes me think theres more support for gays than you let on.But lets not go there.THere was quite a few comments on this thread alone.
smalfish


You're lecturing me about gay issues?


GravatarGWPDA, no! Where?

Samoyeds. Cuuuuute!
watertiger - Joyce, up toward the top of this thread - here's Maggie

Is there any wonder that Arthur would like to go dancing?


GravatarMoterheads ace of spades.

Incidentally, the mandolin and banjo players are brothers and the sons of the guy who wrote deuling banjos.


GravatarPublic Service Announcement:

Let's let Incog natter on, OK? No need to respond.


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GravatarAbout 3/4 of those who post here don't give a shit and 4/5 of the country doesn't give a shit that gays are suffering.


Gravatarspork_incident, was just about to say the same thing.


GravatarDonna Brazile is a fucking idiot.

Ya,but shes white ,and IIRC,blonde.
smalfish


Whoa, smalfish! Who are you thinking of?

http://www.academy.umd.edu/About...ff/ DBrazile.htm

(apologies here: don't have my template to embed linkee at w*rk)


GravatarThis is the money picture.

Incog! How's my bud?


GravatarMost who post here don't give a shit...

Please don't start making unsubstantiated accusations, friend, or I'll have to send some of my gay and lesbian friends down to educate you.

There are a lot of people who don't give a damn, but not "Most who post here"

just sayin'
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GravatarIs there any wonder that Arthur would like to go dancing?

What a beauty!

Alright, I'm off to dinner and theeee-ayter. Toodles!


Gravatardave, do Californians (who actually care) really blame Davis for what happened?


GravatarI'm sure glad heteros can clear me up on shit they don't know anything about. That poor little fag boy. So sad and pathetic. Cry in your dish-rags.


GravatarThis is the money picture.

Ohmigod. A canine flokati.


GravatarShut up 'girlie boys.'


GravatarBTW, there's also a bluegrass Pink Floyd tribute band... and an all-girl AC/DC cover band called AC/DShe...


GravatarActually, my musician girlfriend and I do quite a few Gillian Welch & David Rawlings songs together.

Not that I'm that much of a singer, but I really love mimicking his guitar style. Donna can belt it out with the best of them.


GravatarYou're lecturing me about gay issues?

Not in the slightest.

I am for the equal protection of gays so dont go there on me.I have always been on that side and always will be.

I think whats happening to that kid is iresponsible and criminal.Those kinds of things are nothing more than gulags for gays.


GravatarNo matter what else Greg [Brown] does in his life, "Lord I have made you a place in my heart" means he did not live in vain.

"Brand New '64 Dodge" would also justify just about anyone's existence.


GravatarBut negroponte is back home.
magnolia's propaganda ministry | Email | Homepage | 06.11.05 - 5:25 pm | #


BTW Who is in charge in Iraq? I guess by that I mean who is the US ambassador? After Negroponte left I didn't hear who took over.


Gravatarwatertiger, what are ya seeing?


GravatarYou can always say, I'm not gay or anything when you speak out about shit you know nothing about or cry in your dish-rags about some poor little pathetic fag boy. So sad, so very sad being a little fag boy.


Gravatar(singing...)

!Si, he vuelto al Negro!

!Si he vueellllto al Neggrrroooo!



(wild spanish kitty air guitar solo)


!Fuera de vista!


GravatarTo the theatah - and then to the Dance!

Or, in our case, to the turkey meatloaf. I threw in some green chile out of habit, but doubt that it will really make all that much difference.

I'm in tonight, but Arthur goes out dancing - maybe I'll go ahead and take out that sucker I missed.


GravatarÔ¿Ô

No, there is no way that we can know what he is going through. We do know that his parents are making it worse.


GravatarJust checked them out. Somewhat amusing but...gets old real fast (IMHO).

Like I said, I don't plan on buying a CD, but these guy's are all excellent musicians and the live show is where it's at.


GravatarPlease don't start making unsubstantiated accusations, friend, or I'll have to send some of my gay and lesbian friends down to educate you.


It's not good enough for some of your friends to be gay.

Some of your best friends have to be gay


GravatarWhoa, smalfish! Who are you thinking of?

DOH!

Guess I got my Nattering Nabobs crossed.


Gravatarhit 'em with the train Howard.

Verbera, Medice, istos sella!


GravatarActually, my musician girlfriend and I do quite a few Gillian Welch & David Rawlings songs together.
Ba®ndog


Cool. I'm a big fan of David's work.

(And anyone who can mix LL Cool J and Jimmie Rodgers lyrics, in the same line, gets points in my book.)

Now, I'm curious about your reaction to what I'm about to say. For some reason, "Time - the Revelator" reminds me very much of "Electric Ladyland." There just seems to be a lot of parallels in the structure of the albums. Am I just weir- wait, let me rephrase, we know the answer to that question. Is that a weird thought, or has it ever occurred to you?


GravatarNo, there is no way that we can know what he is going through. We do know that his parents are making it worse.
____league


He isn't the focus. The society is the focus and specifically the fucked up heteros in it.


GravatarGuess I got my Nattering Nabobs crossed.

You were thinking "Susan Estrich", maybe?


GravatarBreaking ...

We interrupt your blogging to bring you this special report:

There is still a missing white whoman in Aruba.

Stay tuned for crucial updates.


Gravatar
Some of your best friends have to be gay


Some of them happen to be, including the most frequent visitors to our house, coming over for dinner this very evening.
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GravatarEli,

We can always meet up half-way. For Prior A, half-way meant Temecula. If you don't have a car, some of us might be willing to have a Saturday brunch in La Jolla.

Just let us know when.


GravatarHey pie

Th youngest graduates from elementary school, the oldest from middle school, and I've got the Pat Buchanan Joe McCarthy Wrepublican in-laws in town.

Silver lining: the wife just told 'em she supports Obama for Prez. in '08.

Tense but hilarious.

Catch ya later after the storm front passes...


GravatarOne more Greg Brown song before we take a break . . .

"Jesus & Elvis"
Jesus had some water, said "Wine'd be better yet".
Elvis picked up a guitar and made all women wet.

Elvis he died young - Jesus he died younger.
Elvis died of too much - Jesus died of hunger.

Jesus sang down through the ages: "Do like you'd have'em do you".
Elvis rocked the universe with be-bop-a-lu-la -

Now here they are on black velvet, in a parking lot in Missouri - rocking my soul with rock'n'roll, soulful harmony.

Jesus went back to heaven to be the King of Kings, but I hear the King of Rock'n'Roll is still restlessly roaming.

Go on home to Jesus, El - he's waiting there you'll find. You two can jam on old gospel songs - them are the best kind.


GravatarI can see clearly now, the rain is gone...

Whoops. Where did THAT come from?

(Effortlessly, he segues from the work PC to the school PC...)


GravatarSteveLG sez:

"Susan Estrich"

{{{shiver}}}


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Gravatarcoming over for dinner this very evening.

Hot spicy pickled vegies!

Peach & sweet onion salsa!

Going away now.


GravatarHeteros liberals always come to it from the angle that the focus is the suffering queer as if being queer was the cause of the suffering. The cause of the suffering is the fucked up heteros in this society.


GravatarCLEAN SHEETS!


GravatarWe can always meet up half-way. For Prior A, half-way meant Temecula. If you don't have a car, some of us might be willing to have a Saturday brunch in La Jolla.

Just let us know when.


Cool; I'll keep you posted. I guess the biggest question will be when or whether I'll have opportunity - I don't know how tightly programmed this reunion is going to be.


GravatarA href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/ 0,1280,-5068079,00.htmlYowsa.

FORT RILEY, Kan. (AP) - An Army sergeant convicted of shooting two fellow soldiers to death last year at his farmhouse will serve life in prison with no chance of parole, a military jury decided Saturday.

Sgt. Aaron Stanley, a 23-year-old veteran of the Iraq war, was sentenced a day after his conviction by the same eight jurors on two counts of premeditated murder. They deliberated about six hours over his sentence - and only three hours over his guilt.

``These were extraordinarily violent and senseless murders,'' Maj. John Hamner, the lead prosecutor, told the panel.

Stanley was convicted of killing Staff Sgt. Matthew Werner, 30, of Oxnard, Calif., and Spc. Christopher D. Hymer, 23, of Nevada, Mo., in September in Clay Center, about 30 miles west of Fort Riley.

Stanley, of Bismarck, N.D., argued he acted in self-defense and to protect another soldier who was there, but prosecutors said he shot the two men to conceal an illegal drug trafficking operation, believing the victims to be informants for Fort Riley police. Stanley and the other soldier, Sgt. Eric Colvin, had acknowledged manufacturing methamphetamine and growing marijuana at the farmhouse.


These guys only seem to get in trouble when they shoot each other.


GravatarWho ordered clean, fresh sheets?

Thank you!


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GravatarA lot more on Zach atpeskyfly's and atAutogeocrat's digs.

Apparently the Love in Action leader once told one of his "patients" he'd rather he commited suicide than go back to being gay. It's some very sick creepy stuff that these people are up to.


GravatarHot spicy pickled vegies!

Peach & sweet onion salsa!

Going away now.


Yes indeedy, but do I share?!?!?! Or shall I keep the bounty for myself.

Off to try one of GWPDA's Pickles........

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GravatarArgh.


Gravatar...do Californians (who actually care) really blame Davis for what happened?

No one with a brain.

Gropenfuehrer's ratings are sliding down the tubes, too...


GravatarThere is an intersting correlation, your right.


GravatarHecate!

Nice to see you!

A few lightning bugs out this AM but stil nothing like last year's swarm (I blame Bush)

If Howard Dean speaks for you, go sign the petition (that goes for the rest of you -- be real -- it's getting lots of trolls -- they fear him)


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GWPDA,

Outstanding, the pickles are, I'm thinking about keeping them a secret, the spicy veggies as well.

"what pickles?"

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GravatarThe entire point of Arnold is to protect Lay, and the great danger of Davis that had to be stopped was his pursuit of Enron. Davis actually said at one point in a press conference that he would get to the bottom of it, and from that point was living under a cloud. It's a like a Capra movie without a Capra ending.


Gravatar"Donna Brazile is a fucking idiot.

Ya,but shes white ,and IIRC,blonde."

Donna is a piss-poor political strategist, and quite black.

Selah.

CAGary


GravatarArthur says, that sounds like a very good plan.

He won't tell, if you don't.


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Thanks Arthur, oh and GWPDA, for sending the message along.

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GravatarEli,


Gravatar16 year old comes out to parents in good faith -- fundies, cock-starved "ex-gays" team up to send him to Maoist hetero re-education camp.

Read the "rules" of that hellhole.
Old Hat


But if he signed up to join the military and went over and killed people overseas....or got killed for Halliburton...these same assholes would be so "proud."

I think these fundies should all be sent somewhere to be deprogrammed.


Gravatar"A strong Army fighting force is essential not only to America's worldwide interests, but indeed to our survival as a nation and the life we enjoy today. But if the decline in our Army's strength continues, make no mistake, we could readily lose that way of life."

America's worldwide interests? All the nations we can invade for their oil?

And what life are we "enjoying" today?

We're turning into a fascist dictatorship where we no longer have a free press....or honest elections.

We have recruiters hounding junior high school kids.

We have people who aren't allowed to leave the "service" after their hitch is up.

What life? This is 1930s Germany all over again!


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