I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Yay me!
Send Chris a letter suggesting this looks like a perfect opportunity for uncover investigative work.
I guess we now know what Chris Wallace likes to do in his spare time.
Some people are pleased by the stangest things.
Is this guy related to Mike Wallace?
Fuck the Faux propaganda machine. Morons, all......
Speaking of enjoying defecating all over themselves, I do believe Mr. Wallace is wallowing in his own shite.
actually, i'm under no illusions how craven these people are, so sadly i'm not surprised by wallace's comments.
res - believe it or not, yes, mike's son. he must be proud.
I am confused... Aren't liberals the ones who are moral relativists? Don't Repubs advocate a clear moral standard of right and wrong? Or is that too 1999 of me?
Dad must be very proud of him. I actually thought he was one of the less wacko hosts on Fox.
Senator Durbin nearly had me convinced that the Guananamo inmates had it tough, but, now that I know that they are being allowed to defecate on themselves, I realize that it is just like being at Club Med.
WE ARE JUST AS BAD AS NAZI GERMANY AND WE HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS. NOW WE ARE EVEN GETTING WORSE. THE SOVIETS AND NAZI'S WERE CHOIR BOYS COMPARED TO US!! THIS COUNTRY IS THE MOST DESPICABLE PLACE ON THE PLANET!
Oh, Gitmo is better than Auschwitz, so I guess it's okay. Is that our new standard of unacceptable?
I never miss an opportunity to defecate on myself when I'm chained to the floor. It's been a bit difficult to manage the 100 degrees though. We're having an unusually cold summer up here. And all of the rain washes the shit off so the effect isn't the same.
Not surprised exactly, more like stunned. I knew the Fox fucks thought this way, I didn't realize it had reached a point where they felt comfortable waxing eloquent about being "allowed" to shit on oneself as an example of America's moral goodness.
now that I know that they are being allowed to defecate on themselves, I realize that it is just like being at Club Med.
And for those terrorists who are not so regular, Club Medamucil.
They hate our freedom to shit on ourselves....
Sadly, I do believe it.
Every time you think they can't sink any lower, they go and prove you wrong.
Oh, what I wouldn't give to be shat at in the face!
Those who do not defecate on themselves clearly hate America -- you heard it from Republicans first!
I guess "Eschatonian" is one of the ones who would be very happy to be allowed to defecate on himself.
I am confused... Aren't liberals the ones who are moral relativists? Don't Repubs advocate a clear moral standard of right and wrong? Or is that too 1999 of me?
You must have missed the memo that came out after the Abu Ghraib photo dump #1.
Moral relativity is the new black don'tchaknow.
how many prisoners have been killed while undergoing interrogation by US military? a score? four dozen? how many died while they were being questioned by outside contractors?
things aren't really so bad in the Gulag Americana, waterboarding isn't really torture and if those naked prisoners don't like 40 degree air conditioning well that's just too bad.
the US Constitution, it's just a piece of paper ya know!
unfuckingreal
Hee,hee, Juan Cole had a great putdown of Friedman yesterday, regarding Tom's suggestion of doubling troop strength in Iraq.
I'm not sure why Tom doesn't know this, but we don't have the troops to do that. There are only 10 fighting divisions in the Army, and standing up more would take 5 years. (A division is typically between 20,000 and 25,000 troops). You can't put all ten into Iraq (remember Afghanistan and South Korea?), and couldn't keep them all there permanently if you could. Friedman's suggestion literally cannot be implemented.
There's more, and he concludes by saying:
It is an index of how desperate the US political class is that impractical ideas are put forward by major journalists in newspapers of record that have already reported on their impracticality.
I guess "Eschatonian" is one of the ones who would be very happy to be allowed to defecate on himself.
Pesty A-HA!
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I WOULD RATHER BE GASSED!! IT'S BETTER TO DIE THAN TO ENDURE A LIVING HELL LIKE GITMO! THIS COUNTRY SUCKS!!
In the America I thought I lived in before the installation of this Bush Administration, that would get Mr. Wallace fired.
Kent, thanks... could you forward me a copy of the memo, mine must be in a drawer somewhere
Project much, Chris?
Chris Wallace is the shit!
I would be very happy if I were to be allowed to defecate on Chris Wallace.
he might even enjoy it.
Is this another example of inelegant verbiage? I'd say keep your day job, but...
I wonder what Fraternity Vlad the Impaler was a member of.
His Frat Prankery was extreme, I think he got an X-Games gold for that work.
What is it with these sixth grade trolls? Find a hobby son.
And for those terrorists who are not so regular, Club Medamucil.
Eli
Eli....
You must have missed the memo that came out after the Abu Ghraib photo dump #1.
Photo dump? Kent - you need to stay away from Eli...
Once shitting on yourself is outlawed, only outlaws will be shitting on you. Or something.
Weird kinda projecting, what with the horrified rant about gays and shit that the wingnuts do.
So when is non-toliet defecation 'ok'? When you are alone? With clothes on? And chained to the floor? And it being 100 degrees? Is loud music necessary?
What is the critieria for this being ok?
Does he realize that we are hatching a new batch of terrorists with a REAL reason to hate us all? We couldn't be doing better if we were following the manual: How To Make The World Hate Us In Ten Easy Steps.
Not surprised exactly, more like stunned. I knew the Fox fucks thought this way, I didn't realize it had reached a point where they felt comfortable waxing eloquent about being "allowed" to shit on oneself as an example of America's moral goodness.
What, did the Germans use corks? I mean WTF?!?!?!
Is this guy related to Mike Wallace?
Allegedly his son.
watertiger's shitslap list is getting longer every minute.
WHY WON'T WE JUST GO AHEAD AND GAS THOSE POOR PEOPLE, THAT WE WILL ONLY BE AS BAD AS THE NAZIS, AS OPPOSED TO BEING SO MUCH WORSE LIKE WE ARE NOW.!!! GOD, I HATE THIS COUNTRY!!
Chris Wallace, like the rest of his ilk, doesn't get it.
Empathy-ectomy... the new elective surgery
Omnes Omnibus,
Sorry to say, I tossed my copy.
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Why does the troll hate this country so much?
In America, some people pay good money for the pleasure of doing that, and here we are letting the terrorist Islamofacists do it for free. Gulag indeed.
In kink terminology, this is similar to a Dirty Sanchez, but it's called a Ricardo Sanchez.
I think his new name should be Chris "Scheisskopf" Wallace.
"I guess that's what you call Crock-Teasing"
Now that's good writin'.
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Flory woman--you all ready for Hammerhead Shark Frenzy?
I've got popcorn, Dr. Pepper, and lots of elitist Chardonnay. I'm hoping Mellish shows up--he's got the big sofa, the kind where we each get our own cup holders and can adjust the angle of our seats. (Purchased just for Scifi Saturday Nights!)
Chris wanted to follow his father into journalism. Instead he went to work for FOX.
WE ARE JUST AS BAD AS NAZI GERMANY AND WE HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS. NOW WE ARE EVEN GETTING WORSE. THE SOVIETS AND NAZI'S WERE CHOIR BOYS COMPARED TO US!! THIS COUNTRY IS THE MOST DESPICABLE PLACE ON THE PLANET!
You're probably too young to remember what right wingnuts said after Waco or when that racist in Idaho hid behind his family and got them shot by federal agents. Or what Glenn Reynolds said after the Oklahoma City bombings, or what every gun-nut says whenever they have to fill out any paperwork to buy a weapon. I could go on and on, but what's the point.
I would be very happy to be allowed to defecate on Wallace.
The only place that asshole can get a job is Fox.
On a related note, I want 48 hours alone with Mike Mikula and Glenn McKoy.
Just the three of us, a nightstick and peroneal strikes galore.
They might not live to see the end of the day, but it's not like they are worth anything anyway.
I've got popcorn, Dr. Pepper, and lots of elitist Chardonnay. I'm hoping Mellish shows up--he's got the big sofa, the kind where we each get our own cup holders and can adjust the angle of our seats. (Purchased just for Scifi Saturday Nights!)
466 mninutes to go!
Gee, Chris, the Nazis didn't start up Dachau in 1933 as a death camp. It was a prison camp for Communists and Socialists. The chained-to-the-floor-defecating for Socialists was a prelude to the gas chambers and ovens for Jews. I'm sure the war crimes tribunals would have been happy to imprison any number of the leadership for chained-to-the-floor-defecating offenses, but the mass murders seemed to have been enough to bring them up on.
NTodd--how about some sour lemon cake with fresh strawberries instead? Much tastier.
I really really really don't wonder anymore how the people of germany let the nazis get in power because it really really really is happening right here.
Photo dump? Kent - you need to stay away from Eli...
Dammit Flory, 
and that was most certainly punintended.
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Ahem. Minutes, even...
This is FUCKED!
From the world's standard bearer of freedom to fascists in just 4 years -
I hope this quote has legs (ugh)!
My pee-pee gets really stiff when I think about torture, and sometimes when I think about soldiers.
I'm not sure why.
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I hope this quote has legs (ugh)!
They might need to be cleaned up a little...
Intelligence - not for everybody.
What was on the Gitmo menu again? I feel compelled to cook dinner a la Gitmo tonight.
Excuse me? I mean, you know, Auschwitz? Bergen Belsen? The Soviet gulag? I think they would have been very happy to be allowed to defecate on themselves.
They never mention the 33 homicide investigations and the whitewashing of evidence that they were KILLING suspects, do they? My head is going to 'splode.
Again, they nit pick the language and to hell with the fact that we have barbarians in charge of prisoners who have no legal representation and no charges brought against them. Fuck!
Better than the Nazis, eh? I'm glad to see that the Republicans are still against defining deviancy down?
I keep thinking I've reached my limit of horror and outrage...but then these scumsuckers just keep raising the bar...
When it turns out that occasionally we've been summarily shooting people, they'll say, "Well, HITLER used gas! How dare you make such a comparison?!"
What was on the Gitmo menu again? I feel compelled to cook dinner a la Gitmo tonight.
Two kinds of fruit!
Strange fruit and dingleberries, I reckon.
I had to go back and read the last paragraph a second time. The man clearly doesn't know what he is talking about. He's on auto spew. Reminds me of some of the things Bush comes out with when he's not reading a script.
They have hit the bottom and are now sinking through the floor.
He's on auto spew.
Precismo.
Eli--forget it. I've already got four kinds of fruit in my fruit bowl.
Was it lemon chicken or lemon pepper chicken?
NTodd--how about some sour lemon cake with fresh strawberries instead? Much tastier.
I don't think I want to defecate on sour lemon cake. I'm funny that way. 
BTW, my late Friday Samblogging is posted.
Was it lemon chicken or lemon pepper chicken?
I think it might have been lemon fish. I don't remember what the chicken was.
When it turns out that occasionally we've been summarily shooting people, they'll say, "Well, HITLER used gas! How dare you make such a comparison?!"
Matt Davis - 1:32 pm
that day has come and gone... USer troops have already been guilty of that particular oppressive stratagem; and the doers of the evil deeds got a free fuckin pass from the Mil. Justice folks...
it is growing more and more difficult to 'support the troops' who seem so enthusiastically to spring into war crimes...
just sayin.
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Gee, Chris, the Nazis didn't start up Dachau in 1933 as a death camp. It was a prison camp for Communists and Socialists. The chained-to-the-floor-defecating for Socialists was a prelude to the gas chambers and ovens for Jews. I'm sure the war crimes tribunals would have been happy to imprison any number of the leadership for chained-to-the-floor-defecating offenses, but the mass murders seemed to have been enough to bring them up on.
Brian C. B.
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Wow, so Dachau started out as something noble and descended into a cog for the holocaust. whodathunkit.
If you've ever wondered how a whole society can go stark raving nuts while a sad sane few sit in the corner going, "But, but..."
Yeah, I know, technically we're the majority but we don't hold the reins of power....
NTodd--how about some sour lemon cake with fresh strawberries instead? Much tastier.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
I don't know about Ntodd, but I could definitely go for some lemon cake. I loves me some lemon cake. And, I've been dieting for the past two weeks, so just blogging about foot is making me salivate.
M. Scott Peck, psychiatrist and author of "The People of the Lie," says evil is never embodied in one action, but in a long series of conscious choices to turn away from light and the truth.
It's pretty clear what we're dealing with.
I keep thinking I've reached my limit of horror and outrage...but then these scumsuckers just keep raising the bar...
Try not to get too upset about the shit (pun intended) on Faux. Remember the poll numbers announced on Thursday -- and widely disseminated in the media on Friday. The Chimp's numbers are in the toilette. America does not like what it sees and hears from the Boy King.
The numbers do not lie.
Chris Wallance probably goes on those right wing talk radio and spew venom to build up his Sunday audience.
Yea, I think they all should die at gitmo. You like what I said? Come see me on Fox on Sunday... Something like that.
Peter Jennings used to come on Hannity drive radio. By playing nice, he was attracting audience for his evening news. Same with Brian Williams now, who is a rightwinger anyway. Tim Russert goes on those shows too. Dan Rather never went on those wacky radio shows and that's why he never built new audience.
Five minutes of rightwing radio builds lot of TV audience these days.
And to keep with the hosts, you have to say outrageous things yourself.
Before hardball, chris matthews was a nice guy. See what a monster he has become.
er, foot is supposed to be food. okay, now I'm laughing at myself. And the 13-year old who is reading over my shoulder thinks it is especially hilarious. teenagers.
NTodd--didn't you miss the boy while at the Fortress of Solitude?
And, I've been dieting for the past two weeks, so just blogging about foot is making me salivate.
TJ has some weird issues...
Now I see why "May you live in interesting times" is considered a curse.
Was it lemon chicken or lemon pepper chicken?
It was shit on a stick actually, but I guess you were askin' what they claimed was served the prisoners, so I'd go with the LP chicken, sounds better than plain ol' Lemon Chicken.
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I'd just like to say that I've just finished defecating on myself, and god damn if Wallace isn't right! It's like a party in my pants, and everyone's invited!
Years ago when I was in Army Officer Candidate School, we went out to the site of Andersonville as part of our law of land warfare course. Talked about treatment of prisoners-- fundamental decency + Geneva Conventions. It was also pointed out to our class that William Calley had graduted from out OCS unit 20 or so years earlier... It seems all that is being forgotten or ignored. I am appalled.
NTodd--didn't you miss the boy while at the Fortress of Solitude?
I did indeed, but it's always nice to get away from responsibility. His grandma is advocating for his appointment to be Camp Cat, only partially in jest.
Between this and free chicken dinners, those terrorists/insurgents/swarthy cab drivers/random innocent kidnap victims sold for bounty to US forces (choose one) are never going to want to leave Guantanamo. Which is probably good, because without a hearing, and with a never-ending "war on terrorism", they may be there a while.
I'm pretty sure there was rice pilaf on the menu, Sallyh.
TJ has some weird issues...
You have no idea.
Dad must be very proud of him. I actually thought he was one of the less wacko hosts on Fox.
Karin
I caught Wallace on Imus one morning, gleefully recounting a chapter out of a book he wrote on "great presidents". He was lauding Grover Cleveland, traditionally a supporter of labor, for sending the National Guard to go in a bust heads of workers at a Pullman, Ill. factory making Pullman rail cars.
He recounted the same story, in gory, lurid detail during a reading of his book on C-SPAN 2. You would swear the guy was sexually excited as he talked about government goons wreaking violence and breaking skulls of would-be union members who were only fighting for better working conditions and fair pay from a big, profitable company.
Good thing that podium was there to hide his wet spot on the front of his pants.
NTodd--I thought Saff was Grandma's Girl.
M. Scott Peck, psychiatrist and author of "The People of the Lie," says evil is never embodied in one action, but in a long series of conscious choices to turn away from light and the truth.
while it is difficult to rebut the assertion, it does seem too bad to have to descend to his level for support...has he EVER eschewed a cliche, anywhere?
just sayin'
just blogging about foot is making me salivate.
Oh, you have a foot fetish, too?!
Next up "Shark Hunter" with that wonderful actor Antonio Sabato Jr.
(now where did I put that remote.....)
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Excuse me? I mean, you know, Auschwitz? Bergen Belsen? The Soviet gulag? I think they would have been very happy to be allowed to defecate on themselves.
He talks as though they weren't "required" to shit on themselves. Doubtless, there's some Holocaust survivor record about such things somewhere, not that Fox would air a retraction anyway.
I thought it was Orange Chicken.
NTodd--I thought Saff was Grandma's Girl.
Oh, she definitely is, but Saff would make a lousy Camp Cat. 'sides, Grandma wants to give the old gal a break, so having Sam at the Fortress would be a win-win in her eyes. I remain unconvinced.
You would swear the guy was sexually excited as he talked about government goons wreaking violence and breaking skulls of would-be union members who were only fighting for better working conditions and fair pay from a big, profitable company.
I think it's time to seriously think about preemptive strikes against those guys. Draw up & compare blacklists.
Oh, you have a foot fetish, too?!
Well, if we're pimping foot photos...
Next up "Shark Hunter" with that wonderful actor Antonio Sabato Jr.
I love Antonio Sabato, Jr. He's a hottie.
Ot, but I was just reading a review of the new Doonesbury collection, and this jumped out at me:
Getting John McCain to write an introduction to the book was the perfectly shrewd move to inoculate himself against any further carping from O'Reillyland. Trudeau's cheerful, love-the-warrior-but-hate-the-war sympathy for American soldiers is longstanding and seems altogether sincere, not (like, say, Michael Moore's) a cynical posture in the service of his political and commercial interests.
Any chance to get in a dig at Michael Moore. They can't even remain objective in a book review for crying out loud.
Is Wallace saying that Jews are scat fetishists? That's pretty f---ed up, if you ask me.
Any chance to get in a dig at Michael Moore. They can't even remain objective in a book review for crying out loud.
He's quite corpulent, you know.
I love Antonio Sabato, Jr. He's a hottie.
OK, some teenaged girl is namestealing NTodd now.
Whats next Zombie Namestealers?
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Is Wallace saying that Jews are scat fetishists?
I think the proper term is "scat fanciers".
Whats next Zombie Namestealers?
ZOMBIEZ NO NAMSTEL. WANT BRANEZZZ.
Well, if we're pimping foot photos...
Excuse me, but this is my foot fetish gig.
For you MJ types, this shot might interest you. People with more grownup tastes might like this one.
OK, some teenaged girl is namestealing NTodd now.
How do you know I'm not a teenaged girl?
I think the proper term is "scat fanciers".
(not to be confused with those of us who are GreatScat fanciers...)
Stinky, as little as I watch Fox News, I had no idea what a sicko Wallace was.
A Canadian friend of mine keeps asking me when the American left will finally shift out of the Loyal Opposition "Come, Let Us Reason Together" mode of resistance and instead start emulating the African National Congress "Blow Shit Up / Terminate Loathsome Fucktards With Extreme Prejudice" model.
And I keep having to explain to him that that's simply not the American way. We Murkin lefties are a gentle and peaceful folk. We don't get mad, we don't raise our voices, and we're very very polite.
Seems to be working, too. In small but subtle ways, things really do seem to be getting better. Yep, most definitely so.
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Stupid double posting...
"Wow, so Dachau started out as something noble and descended into a cog for the holocaust. whodathunkit.
Avestus"
Why am I so not surprised that someone whose handle is connected to the Inquisition would believe Dachau started out as a noble cause.
puke funnel, ha ha!
good one
(not to be confused with those of us who are GreatScat fanciers...)
Who *isn't* a GreatScat fancier?
Puke funnels are the new black.
How do you know I'm not a teenaged girl?
I had considered the possibility........
jury is still out.
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"Wow, so Dachau started out as something noble and descended into a cog for the holocaust. whodathunkit.
Avestus"
Why am I so not surprised that someone whose handle is connected to the Inquisition would believe Dachau started out as a noble cause.
I think he was trying to be sarcastic.
Of course, focusing on a single camp at a singular place in time is just the strawman these guys love. "How can you compare Bush to Hitler? Hitler murder millions of people!!!" Not in 1933. None of these people apparently have read Mein Kampf or learned from history. Alas.
PR campaigns are all Bush and Co. know how to do -- and they don't even do them well. Misinformation, disinformation, deception, bait and switch.
Because they know they can get away with it, over and over. Because every thing is viewed in the short-term.
I never said that, says Cheney, Rumsfeld, Frist. They know the media won't follow up or do any time-consuming research, because hey, they're on deadline.
Or they just have Fox, or Rush, or the Washington Times spread lies and smears for them.
There will be no democracy possible as long as the media enablers continue to be allowed to feed the river of lies, spin, and toxic BS.
ntodd=unfunny ass
Unfunny how? Unfunny like a psychtic clown? I don't amuse you? I don't make you laugh? How the fuck am I unfunny? What the fuck is so unfunny about me?
Whats next Zombie Namestealers?
ZOMBIEZ NO NAMSTEL. WANT BRANEZZZ.
Eli
This may be old news around these parts, but have you filks seen/read "The Zombie Survival Guide"?
www.zombiesurvivalguide.com
If you haven't, you might want to. Don't wait until it's too late!
Well, I hate to come to this wanker's defense, but what he's obviously saying is that they would have preferred to defecate on themselves at Auschwitz versus the atrocities that they DID experience.
I think we lose the argument on Gitmo and Abu Ghraib when we focus on stuff like this instead of focusing on the truth of what's really happening over there. The point is, prisoners defecating on themselves is NOT the worst thing that happens to prisoners there, which is what he's saying. People have been killed at Abu Ghraib. There has been torture. We're sending prisoners to Uzbekistan, where they boil people alive. THAT is what we should be focusing on.
Once again, we are letting the Republicans frame the debate. Why do we fall for it every single damn time?
I had considered the possibility........
jury is still out.
I lead a double life. Just like Batman.
In small but subtle ways, things really do seem to be getting better
Absolutely. You do seem to have forced the right to agree that actual gulags and extermination camps are bad. Well done.
However, it is still not quite clear at what precise point it stops being a geographically isolated prison beyond the rule of law where torture is practiced, and starts being a gulag. It seems to have something to do with the food.
filks=folks
(Zombies already ate part of my brain)
I've got popcorn, Dr. Pepper, and lots of elitist Chardonnay. I'm hoping Mellish shows up--he's got the big sofa, the kind where we each get our own cup holders and can adjust the angle of our seats. (Purchased just for Scifi Saturday Nights!)
I'm all ready!! oh wait. I'm not. Must lay in supplies of Dr. Pepper and chocolate.
I also meant to bring home my laptop for live blogging. Rats. 
And Mike Wallace is an idiot. What kind of crap is that? we're not as horrible as the nazis so it must be okay?
Good, Gitmo is better than either Auschwitz or the Soviet Gulag. So, now which of those was the better of the two: Auschwitz or the Soviet Gulag? I can't say. I'll have to ask Chris Wallace. The filth and perversion of all these 'nice' U.S. persons are stupefying. How would any average U.S. person have reacted to such a statement twenty or even five years ago? Give me an honest to life SM porno film which doesn't pretend to be what it is not. In olden days people like Chris Wallace would have had their mouths washed out with soap, repeatedly until they puked.
Well, I hate to come to this wanker's defense, but what he's obviously saying is that they would have preferred to defecate on themselves at Auschwitz versus the atrocities that they DID experience.
Of course he did. I don't think his figurative meaning is really the point. 'sides, if these assholes can't understand what we say in order to generate faux outrage, why the hell can't we?
Puke funnels are the new black.
Dammit, How is a body to keep up with what is black anymore, jeez.
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Clean laundry upstairs
This may be old news around these parts, but have you filks seen/read "The Zombie Survival Guide"?
I own a copy.
Indispensable.
A Canadian friend of mine keeps asking me when the American left will finally shift out of the Loyal Opposition "Come, Let Us Reason Together" mode of resistance and instead start emulating the African National Congress "Blow Shit Up / Terminate Loathsome Fucktards With Extreme Prejudice" model.
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BECAUSE THOSE GUN TOTIN ASSHOLES WOULD SHOOT US DOWN LIKE DOGS!! THIS AIN'T CANADA. THAT FUCKING SECOND AMENDMENT RUINS EVERYTHING!! GOD I HATE THIS COUNTRY!!
As parody trolls go, "Eschatonian" isn't fit to eat the peanuts out of Merkin Patriot's shit.
Some people really will do and say anything for money. Instead of following in Dad's shadows, I know two men for sure now who should have gone out into the world and changed their names. One is George W. Bush and the other is Chris Wallace.
Dammit, How is a body to keep up with what is black anymore, jeez.
You need to subscribe to the e-newsletter.
if these assholes can't understand what we say in order to generate faux outrage, why the hell can't we?
Because we are focusing on the wrong thing, and in so doing we let them win the argument. As long as they get away with telling people that dirty underwear is the worst thing that happens at Gitmo and A/G, then they've accomplished their goal.
There's nothing more powerful than the truth. So why let them get away with their lies? Just 'cause?
How many of these statements, attitudes, actions, etc. when boiled down, don't basically reduce to:
Brown People Real People.
The Iraq war is a chance for a lot of folks to fight the Great Race War we've never had, only in a controlled environment, far away.
When I read the Wallace quote I almost shit myself. Alas, no such luck. Some people get all the fun.
Eschatonian's unintentional similarity to 'Merkin Patriot is too much.
KEEPE IT UPP- THE LAFFS JUST KEEPE CUMMIN'!!!!!!
oops. I tried to do 'not equal' with greater and less than, and Haloscan thought it was an empty HTML tag.
Intended:
Brown People < > Real People
"Eschatonian" isn't fit to eat the peanuts out of Merkin Patriot's shit.
I'll bet he would be happy to shit on himself, tho.
There's nothing more powerful than the truth. So why let them get away with their lies? Just 'cause?
Uh...that's kinda what we're trying to do.
Puke funnels are the new black.
Dammit, How is a body to keep up with what is black anymore, jeez.
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Kent™ Embigulator | Email | Homepage | 06.18.05 - 1:57 pm | #
And mAnn Coulter's enormous brown eye is the new pink.
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More trivializing of Gitmo, this time from Lamebaugh:
http://mediamatters.org/items/20...ms/
200506170004
Limbaugh touted "Club G'itmo, the Muslim resort"
And mAnn Coulter's enormous brown eye is the new pink.
GMT, is that the Rude-Pundit's dayblog?
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The point is, prisoners defecating on themselves is NOT the worst thing that happens to prisoners there, which is what he's saying
No. That's exactly what he's saying. He's saying that if that's the worst that happens to them, of well, la di da! that's not all that bad is it?
Nothing like those stinking nazis. Oh no, we're so much more morally superior.
BECAUSE THOSE GUN TOTIN ASSHOLES WOULD SHOOT US DOWN LIKE DOGS!! THIS AIN'T CANADA. THAT FUCKING SECOND AMENDMENT RUINS EVERYTHING!! GOD I HATE THIS COUNTRY!!
Eschatonian
Actually, the left is more motivated by attempting to preserve what's left of a democratic society, understanding that the use of violence threatens to undo it completely. "Fear Of The Right" really has nothing to do with the left's reluctance to use violence at all. In that regard, the right wing is far more fearful of the left...
Whenever I see Chris Wallace, I remember him standing on a balcony in a Tel Aviv hotel during Gulf War I, saying stuff like 'A scud just landed about 400 yards north of where I'm standing, the such-and-such hotel', with Ted Koppel repeatedly telling him *not* to disclose such details, as they could aid Saddam's targetting.
That's right: Chris Wallace, Saddam Hussein's forward artillery observer during GW I.
Si if you're ever on TV and getting questioned by Chris Wallace, just say 'Well, at least I didn't act as Hussein's forward artillery observer during Gulf War one'
...the quality of mercy is twice blessed; it blesseth him that gives and him that takes..
And it works the other way, too. Brutality degrades the abuser as well. Not a difficult concept to grasp, is it?
To repeat our comment over there, yes there is history that directly contradicts this:
Besides being just jaw-dropping unbelievable and callous, he’s also flat wrong.
Anyone familiar with at least the Nazi camps, particularly Auschwitz, knows full well how the Nazis used what one historian calls "excremental assault" to dehumanize the inmates. Prisoners had access to a primitive latrine during the day and a bucket at night, but that rarely sufficed. The combination of the work regimen and the minimal food resulted in a lot of shitting, and you took it anywhere you could and didn't worry so much about cleaning yourself up afterwards. So very frequently the inmates' clothing was multiply stained. They crapped themselves alright.
Charlotte Delbo, the French resistance fighter who wrote Auschwitz and After,, the best memoir of the camp, wrote that the smell of Auschwitz was a bouquet of burning flesh, rotting flesh, and diarrhea.
She also writes about the little brownish-yellow splotches all over the snow in winter time.
Would Chris Wallace be happy with that? Conservatives should check in to actual history, not history as they imagine it was.
Actually, the left is more motivated by attempting to preserve what's left of a democratic society...
Of course, after reading this article, one might be forgiven for wondering just how much of our supposed democratic society actually is left.
Hopefully enough so that it's not yet time for this mindset to again become operable:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson
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It must be a riot to hear Chris Wallace and Geraldo swap war stories.
Too bad we can't hear or see or smell or taste or feel anything.
1729,
don't forget the coalition. 1920.
BECAUSE THOSE GUN TOTIN ASSHOLES WOULD SHOOT US DOWN LIKE DOGS!! THAT FUCKING SECOND AMENDMENT RUINS EVERYTHING!!
Hey Gomer, thanks for cluing me in to the little known fact that onerous gun control laws prevented those apartheid-niks in South Africa from effectively defending themselves. The ANC sure was lucky that those dumb Afrikonians didn't have guns and stuff to fight back with, eh?
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So basically these people feel that the scene in "Life of Brian" where Brian is thrown into prison with Michael Palin as the bearded prisoner chained to the wall, is a serious discusion not comedy. OK.
it just occurred to me, i wonder what the anti-defamation league or the holocaust museum people would have to say about mr wallace's comments.
perhaps the transcript should be forwarded.
Soiling yourself is the new black.
Durbin said this about descriptions of prisoners exposed to extreme temperatures, chained in fetal positions, left in their own feces and urine for up to a day:
If I had read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had sone to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime . . .
He says SOME of the things happening are the same as things that happened in repressive regimes. He made no overall moral equivalence. But it is a sad thing when the only rejoinder to pointing out similarities to Hitler is "But we're not as bad as him overall!" In fact, if you can't point out similarities, how will you ever keep things from going down that path?
That's right: Chris Wallace, Saddam Hussein's forward artillery observer during GW I.
Si if you're ever on TV and getting questioned by Chris Wallace, just say 'Well, at least I didn't act as Hussein's forward artillery observer during Gulf War one'
Mike |
Nice reminder . Of course if it helped ratings the guy would take a scud to his hotel room.
Soiling yourself is the new black.
cory |
The new earth tone.
You know what we should do? Email Fox news - every single one of us. Get this to all the bloggers you know. Pile the email on them. Do you think the report Dan Rather did got all the attention it did because the Freepers just talked amongst themselves?
I was going to write to the perps at Comments@foxnews.com but was so outraged I phoned instead. The number is 1-888-369-4762 and then 7 to leave an actual comment. This must be the single most dispicable, most contemptible thing ever said on television on any channel at any time for any purpose ever. I think I'm going to call them back now and press option 8 to leave a suggestion for a news story they might want to pursue-- Chris Wallace resigns in shame/Fox News apologies.
i would suggest sending to jewish groups instead. roger ailes gives a flying fuck what anybody thinks. they will laugh at any complaints lodged with fox.
"Gitmo- Warmer Than Auschwitz"
It appears that there is a clear strategy on the part of the Bushistas to transform our country as close to fascist and totlitarian states as is possible by claiming, at each step of the process, that we are not as bad as the Nazis or the Stalinists.
Whoops. To leave the story idea with Fox that they hurry to cover the resignation of Chris Wallace before it happens, I had to selection option FIVE. I had it wrong in the message I left a few minutes ago. The Fox News number, however, is indeed 1-888-369-4762.
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Chef Duncan Hunter, you forgot the chickenshit a la george
I guess the comment, "Have you no decency, sir?" won't work this time around.
Atrios: Still comparing the USA to Hitler and Stalin on a daily basis.
Thanks for 2004 moron. Equating Gitmo to Stalin will help win the next election. Nice work.
Geeze, you weren't kidding about that last quote.
Cog: but Kerry won! 
Atrios, I think you owe an apology to puke funnels everywhere.
Addressing statements upthread -
Lay off Mike Mikula. The guy is alright. I know him personally, and he can't stand this fucked-up administration.
Fox: we lie, you swallow it hook, line and sinker.
Err, sorry, but I will do no such thing!
WE ARE JUST AS BAD AS NAZI GERMANY AND WE HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS. NOW WE ARE EVEN GETTING WORSE. THE SOVIETS AND NAZI'S WERE CHOIR BOYS COMPARED TO US!! THIS COUNTRY IS THE MOST DESPICABLE PLACE ON THE PLANET!
Eschatonian
We're getting there.
Give Bush and his thugs a little more time....it doesn't hurt to have so many people willing to go along with whatever they say or do.
America has truly jumped the shark. It's not coming back. Not only do major media figures make these statements, and statements like the ones Limbaugh made about Durbin, there is no outrage except in the blogosphere. Not from the so-called liberal media and not even from the Democrats who are being attacked.
Thanks, Ralph. Thanks for doing your small part to put the country into the hands of these people. Didn't count on their being able to actually increase their power, didja?
Wow, so Dachau started out as something noble and descended into a cog for the holocaust. whodathunkit.
Avestus"
Why am I so not surprised that someone whose handle is connected to the Inquisition would believe Dachau started out as a noble cause.
bcf
Or someone who has shown repeatedly how stupid, brainwashed and clueless he is.
I'm ashamed to breath the same air as he does and live on the same planet....or is he on a different planet?
Chris Wallace is Mike Wallace's son. Here's hoping for a fathers' day lecture. (Although I sometimes suspected that Mike Wallace wouldn't let truth or fairness stand in the way of a "good" story.)
"You won't believe the final quote. You just won't."
Having read every volume of Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago, you're right -- I DON'T.
Where do the wingnuts get these guys, anyway?
Yeesh...just saw Ben Brackley's comment. If true, them NM
"I think they would have been very happy to be allowed to defecate on themselves."
Wow, I had no idea the Nazis and the Soviets prevented people from defecating on themselves...
Soilent Black is people too!
I'll just come right out and say it:
I'd be happy if Chris Wallace shat on himself.
Does that make me a terrible person?
Joe
No it does not.
I'd be very happy to shit on Chris Wallace.
"And it works the other way, too. Brutality degrades the abuser as well. Not a difficult concept to grasp, is it?"
And when these abusers come home, do you really think they will be able to be normal decent people? What will we be unleashing here?
I tried to find a link at the FoxNews website to send an email to Chrissie, but apparently the Fox talking asses don't care to hear the opinions of the masses. While shitting oneself seems perfectly OK to them, they sure as hell don't want to run the risk of someone shitting on them, even metaphorically. Fucking cowards, the whole lot of 'em, along with ESCHATONIAN and the other numb-nuts trolls in this thread.
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