Milbank's article was pretty disgusting, pretty tasteless -- even for the Washington Post. Milbank is not as smart as I thought he was.
dgt |
06.18.05 - 2:04 pm | #
This hit me hard at the end of the DSM hearing when the father and brother of a young soldier who died in Iraq, searching for WMD, without fanfare or even a mike, read his name and date of death.
If we really believed that Iraq was crawling with WMD and our main reason for invading was to disarm Saddam, why didn't we even guard the munitions dumps?
The Downing Street Memos show that this was never a laughing matter.
Jim Jenkins |
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06.18.05 - 2:08 pm | #
I'm still trying to suss out why Milbank wrote that snakry critique.
Has he been "body snatched"?
I mean--isn't it somewhat out of character for him to written that way?
jawbone |
06.18.05 - 2:09 pm | #
Words cannot express the shame I feel that reporters like Milbank can write trash and laugh at "jokes" of Bush looking for WMD under a couch in the Oval Office while people die for Bush's lies to the American people.
These people are sick, sick, sick.
Stinky |
06.18.05 - 2:09 pm | #
CSpan 2- author of "Greenspan's Fraud" is nailing Greenspan. Hit 'em with the chair!
Mr.Murder |
06.18.05 - 2:09 pm | #
On one hand we have people like Brooks telling us that democratics are out of touch with middle america because we treat them like rubes, and they are anything but.
Yet, the press mocks anyone for 'not knowing' the runup to the war was all based on fake shit they were feeding us.
Who are the elists now?
jdw |
06.18.05 - 2:09 pm | #
It was all a joke to them. They got paid, too.
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Grand Moff Texan |
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06.18.05 - 2:09 pm | #
I re-read Milbank's article. There was no mention of Republicans reserving the meeting rooms and forcing two floor votes that keep many members of Congress from attending the DSM meeting. If you're going to pretend to be a journalist atleast put some details in the story. I also don't understand his opening paragraph. "The Land of Make Believe" is the one this administration continues to live in. There's nothing funny about this or perhaps I just don't have a sense of humor.
Monica A |
06.18.05 - 2:10 pm | #
yuk it up [quicktime]
gary in fl |
06.18.05 - 2:10 pm | #
Hmmm- "In the 70s, he opposed whatever Carter wanted..."
Imagine that-Greenspan the political hack.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.05 - 2:11 pm | #
The people dying are not Real People to them. They don't know them; they aren't the son or daughter of a contributor or business partner, so it is like an Ahhnold movie... funny because it's not real.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 2:11 pm | #
Milbank's article was pretty disgusting, pretty tasteless -- even for the Washington Post. Milbank is not as smart as I thought he was.
dgt | Email | Homepage | 06.18.05 - 2:04 pm | #
I wonder who wrote it for him?
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Grand Moff Texan |
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06.18.05 - 2:11 pm | #
Yeah, Lieberman was splitting his sides laughing at that. It was the funniest damn 'joke' he ever heard.
Disgusting beyond belief. That alone would make anyone depise Lieberman.
Bobo |
06.18.05 - 2:11 pm | #
Eli--only 423 minutes till Hammerhead Shark Frenzy!
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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06.18.05 - 2:12 pm | #
Eli--only 423 minutes till Hammerhead Shark Frenzy!
Whoo!!! I anticipate a staggering work of heartbreaking genius!
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 2:13 pm | #
LOL! Yeah, that was funny as hell. What was even funnier was watching all the red faces on the left as they choked on their fury at watching their main point of attack get so neatly nullifed by a little humor
Avestus |
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06.18.05 - 2:13 pm | #
Damn thing made me sick. Everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves.
Charlotte Smith (nee Beavers) |
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06.18.05 - 2:13 pm | #
I guess it's easy to laugh when you and/your family doesn't have to actually fight the bogus war.
Monica A |
06.18.05 - 2:14 pm | #
that wmd stuff was a real rib-tickler.
now watch this drive.
The Innocents Abroad |
06.18.05 - 2:14 pm | #
Might as well podwhore my Memorial Day cast I did after Laura's little horse cock joke, which also touched (heh) on Bush's WMD (wiener of mass dysfunction?) joke.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 2:14 pm | #
The Gold Star mothers should sue Milbank's pants off for compensatory damage.
The money can go the underfunded veteran support centers/groups.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.05 - 2:15 pm | #
And our high powered press wonders why 'journalists' approval ratings are so low.
I rather suspect most of Bobo's world found McChimpy's little gag tasteless - that is, if they even heard about it - thanks to the aforementioned 'journalists'.
flory |
06.18.05 - 2:15 pm | #
Whoops, not Mem Day, but May Day.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 2:16 pm | #
What was even funnier was watching all the red faces on the left as they choked on their fury at watching their main point of attack get so neatly nullifed by a little humor
Yeah, Cindy Sheehan sure thought it was humourous. Making fun of the cause of deaths of US soldiers sure is hilarious. Fuck off avestus, you fucking coward.
TJ |
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06.18.05 - 2:16 pm | #
I'm still trying to suss out why Milbank wrote that snakry critique.
Because he's a fucking asshole.
That is the only explanation that makes sense.
I'm not going to find it the least bit funny if my cousin's kid is killed in bush's folly. If these assholes had done their job none of this would have happened.
four legs good |
06.18.05 - 2:16 pm | #
sallyh - to answer your question from a couple threads back - heck yeah I'm all set for shark feeding.
I just wish I could watch it Eastern time so I could participate in the liveblogging. But rereading the liveblog thread while watching it later is almost as good.
flory |
06.18.05 - 2:17 pm | #
Monica A,
EXACTLY. It's like a video game or D&D. No one they recognize as significant is hurt, so everything is ok.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 2:17 pm | #
Words cannot express the shame I feel that reporters like Milbank can write trash and laugh at "jokes" of Bush looking for WMD under a couch in the Oval Office while people die for Bush's lies to the American people.
Word. He's making ha ha has at the Dems holding meetings in the basement because the THUGS wouldn't let them have a dignified room and completely failed to grasp that there is nothing funny at all about this mis-adventure in Iraq to the parents of the tens of thousands of dead and wounded soldiers. Rat bastard.
bigvic |
06.18.05 - 2:18 pm | #
LOL! Yeah, that was funny as hell
Since you think it's all such a joke, why don't you get your sick ass down to the recruiting station?
You are a cowardly piece of shit.
four legs good |
06.18.05 - 2:18 pm | #
The press coverage was fixed around the falsity.
QuentinCompson |
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06.18.05 - 2:19 pm | #
An alternate history joke. Truman orders the military to nuke Nagasaki and Hiroshima. A few months later we learn that it wasn't Japan that bombed Pearl Harbor, it was China. At the a dinner for the press, Truman says, "Hey, they all look alike to me!" The press fall out of their chairs laughing, and note the President's self-deprecating sense of humor.
s.z. |
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06.18.05 - 2:20 pm | #
It's pretty damn good. Makes an excellent point.
TJ |
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06.18.05 - 2:20 pm | #
I'm not going to find it the least bit funny if my cousin's kid is killed in bush's folly.
Don't even *say* that, 4lg. We're all about positive thinking on this blog.
'Sides, I guess he's my adopted cousin, now.
flory |
06.18.05 - 2:20 pm | #
LOL! Yeah, that was funny as hell. What was even funnier was watching all the red faces on the left as they choked on their fury at watching their main point of attack get so neatly nullifed by a little humor.
Yeah, missing WMD is a fucking gas.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 2:21 pm | #
Chimpy got the war he wanted so badly for political capital. And then he walks around joking and smiling in front of the camera. "war presidents" do that I guess.
magnolia's propaganda ministry |
06.18.05 - 2:24 pm | #
Since you think it's all such a joke, why don't you get your sick ass down to the recruiting station?
Y'know - it occurs to me that we keep asking the trools this question but never stop and think about whether the military would want them.
Do you really see Tobe, or Ted, or hat or Avestus or any of our other favorites wearing boots? Lets face it, none of them would make it thru week one of boot camp. And as stoopid as they are, they prolly realize that.
flory |
06.18.05 - 2:24 pm | #
he walks around joking and smiling in front of the camera. "war presidents" do that I guess.
Totally. FDR joked a lot about Operation Market Garden, for example.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 2:25 pm | #
I love reading these stories. My only complaint is there's not enough of them.
BP |
06.18.05 - 2:25 pm | #
Do you really see Tobe, or Ted, or hat or Avestus or any of our other favorites wearing boots?
Their anal cysts won't prevent them from putting on combat boots, but they would make it hard to march.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 2:26 pm | #
Dana Milbank is generally an excellent reporter, but on Thurs he lost his head and compass. I couldn't believe what I was reading, because I have such a high regard for him. After the campaign, he was taken off the WH beat and given a reporter-at-large kind of asssignment and he has done good snarks on Congress rather well. But this is life and death and he lost his head. His editors did not catch it either, how horrible it was. So only he and his editor, if it was edited at all, were involved in the few hours before print. Ombudsman will catch him for sure for this.
But Bush's speech was entirely another matter. Probably a dozen people were involved for days in scripting, rehearsing and shooting and reviewing the film and these are all high level WH officials.
None of them thought it was a tasteless joke. That's what bothered me. And those hundreds of journalists yucking it up. I can understand losing it for a second.
But consistently for 2 or minutes?
See how deadened their sensibilities are.
ecoast |
06.18.05 - 2:28 pm | #
I love the 1-800-GOARMY tag too, whoever thought that one up deserves an honorary award of some sort. It answers the Milbank and Goldberg bravado so well.
BP |
06.18.05 - 2:28 pm | #
4Legs--enquiring minds want to know: can we have Lion!Max pics?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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06.18.05 - 2:29 pm | #
Now that was funny.
bigvic |
06.18.05 - 2:31 pm | #
well what are we if we can't laugh at ourselves; or at least our 1700 or so dead proxies.
focus |
06.18.05 - 2:31 pm | #
This was the woman sitting next to him whose son had been killed in Iraq. “Cindy’s son,” McGovern added, “was killed 11 days after the show put on by the president…after that big joke.”
Dana Milbank, who seems to like a good laugh, did not mention this in his story the following day.
I was listening to that hearing, on Pacifica Radio. I've heard Ray McGovern on Democracy Now! several times in the past years, but never was I more impressed with him than at that hearing.
I even remember him saying this about Mrs. Sheehan. Now, the question is: is Dana Milbank capable of shame?
Because he has shamed himself and his paper.
Rmj, Wandering Aengus |
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06.18.05 - 2:32 pm | #
but Freedom is on the March (trade)
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 2:33 pm | #
May be late on this, but did you catch it? Letter from Jeb-Sonny-Corleone-Bush to the NYT:
To the Editor:
The New York Times's grotesque and chilling disrespect for the sanctity of life has never been more apparent than in your June 16 editorial "Autopsy on the Schiavo Tragedy."
Terri Schiavo was a deeply loved daughter, wife, sister and friend. The fact that her brain was atrophied or that she was blind or could not have been rehabilitated doesn't change that fact.
While many medical professionals said she was in a persistent vegetative state, still other highly respected neurologists said there was a chance that she was not.
I even remember him saying this about Mrs. Sheehan. Now, the question is: is Dana Milbank capable of shame?
He must have a low shame meter as well as a terrible lack of empathy to have missed the fact that the meeting was a very serious matter to begin with. What a smarmy little man Milbank is to have completely overlooked the suffering of that mother.
bigvic |
06.18.05 - 2:38 pm | #
Why doesn't Jebby just let this die?
According to the GOP it's immoral to pull the plug on a made-up political issue. They also believe in throwing good money after bad...
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 2:38 pm | #
4Legs--enquiring minds want to know: can we have Lion!Max pics?
I was trying to get a good shot of him last night but he kept walking towards me. While purring.
I really need to get a nice side view of him so you can truly appreciate the haircut.
Seeing his skinny little body is rather sad, but he doesn't seem to mind.
four legs good |
06.18.05 - 2:38 pm | #
Why doesn't Jebby just let this die?
Omnes Omnibus
because he is a Vulture of Life.
focus |
06.18.05 - 2:39 pm | #
Why doesn't Jebby just let this die?
I don't know, but I wonder if there is a legal defense fund for Michael Schiavo. I'm going to call his lawyer's office on Monday and find out.
res ipsa loquitur |
06.18.05 - 2:40 pm | #
gracias (feels good but strangely sad)
focus |
06.18.05 - 2:43 pm | #
He must have a low shame meter as well as a terrible lack of empathy to have missed the fact that the meeting was a very serious matter to begin with. What a smarmy little man Milbank is to have completely overlooked the suffering of that mother.
bigvic
An AP Downing Street Memo is up at Yahoo News. It is only rated a 3 out of 5 stars for recommendation. Hope you all can go and help it out a bit.
Memos Show British Concern Over Iraq Plans By THOMAS WAGNER, Associated Press Writer
59 minutes ago
LONDON - When Prime Minister Tony Blair's chief foreign policy adviser dined with Condoleezza Rice six months after Sept. 11, the then-U.S. national security adviser didn't want to discuss Osama bin Laden or al-Qaida. She wanted to talk about "regime change" in Iraq, setting the stage for the U.S.-led invasion more than a year later.
President Bush wanted Blair's support, but British officials worried the White House was rushing to war, according to a series of leaked secret Downing Street memos that have renewed questions and debate about Washington's motives for ousting Saddam Hussein.
In one of the memos, British Foreign Office political director Peter Ricketts openly asks whether the Bush administration had a clear and compelling military reason for war...
The Innocents Abroad |
06.18.05 - 2:45 pm | #
RIL,
that letter from Jeb is vile. What a piece of scum. I cannot believe he is still trying to score political points off that poor woman's death.
In cases where patients do not have an expressed written directive regarding end-of-life decisions and where the patient's guardian has a conflict of interest, it only makes sense to err on the side of life.
That may be your opinion, you prick (conflict of interest my ass), BUT IT'S NOT THE LAW OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, you know, the state whose laws you are sworn to uphold?
TJ |
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06.18.05 - 2:45 pm | #
Some ex-Bush admin focker on Faux News just blamed Clinton for 9/11.
Well, obviously... Let me see... he was offered OBL's head on a plate and said no?
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 2:47 pm | #
100,000 or so killed on false pretenses, tens of thousands (at least) maimed, $300 billion down the toilet. So far. What a laugh riot.
Mitchell's right. Why the hell didn't Kerry ever play that tape? He conducted the whole campaign wearing kid gloves -- wouldn't want to be mean to Dubya, someone might get offended.
Frederick |
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06.18.05 - 2:48 pm | #
Some ex-Bush admin focker on Faux News just blamed Clinton for 9/11.
Well I have to admit that after hearing some such variation on this theme for the 93rd time, I am beginning to believe it.
Damn Clinton, ignoring that Aug 6 PDB.
Damn him to helllllllllllll.
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™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 2:48 pm | #
Marbury v. Madison: Going, going, go...
Bah, judicial review is so early 19th century...
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 2:49 pm | #
Fucking Jeb. Why didn't he tell his brother to err on the side of life when he was the governor of Texas?
Karin |
06.18.05 - 2:50 pm | #
Res Ipsa, if Marbury v. Madison goes, just hope it is before your bar exam. It will make the ConLaw sections easier. The only time I ever supported a flat tax was before my exam in Federal Personal Income Tax.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 2:50 pm | #
JANE ANN MORRISON: Those who help the homeless survive feel sting of mayor's 'enabler' tag
Showing the sensitivity and compassion that earn him praise throughout "his" city, Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman took time out from his busy schedule Thursday to insult a room full of people who try to help the homeless.
Goodman called the "good people" in the room "enablers" who, by feeding the homeless sandwiches and giving them water, "enable them to remain homeless." His words hit homeless advocates present like a stinging two-cheek slap challenging them to a duel.
The setting: A meeting of the Southern Nevada Regional Planning Coalition's committee on homelessness, a workshop in Henderson at which elected officials would give staffers direction on priorities. The audience was packed with people who work with the homeless, including government workers, church workers and volunteers.
*snip*
He did express empathy for the working homeless, people living out of their cars because affordable homes are becoming so hard to find in Las Vegas. And he suggested that a homeless court might be a good idea. But he told the committee on homelessness, which has been working on regional solutions for 18 months, that "what we're talking here is too theoretical; I'd like to be more pragmatic."
Well, it sounded as if his pragmatic solution for the homeless can be summarized in three words: Let them starve.
More compassion in today's America....
Toonscribe |
06.18.05 - 2:51 pm | #
Why do you have a "high regard" for Millbank, ecoast?
Who is the editor who signed off on Millbank's article?
Has Conyers' letter been printed in the Post yet? Or outraged letters?
David Ehrenstein
Milbank wrote several stories on failure to find WMD. Always did some straight reporting from WH, but gave the sceptical view as well, constantly questioning the official line. Actually, one of wapo's best, along with Pincus, Dana Priest and Mike Allen.
This was his first misstep.
I think he just got caught up in a snarky moment and did not have time to rethink the piece and his editor was probably absent that evening.
Michael Abramowitz the national editor (named in Conyers's letter)
is responsible for the piece, I think.
Conyers letter is not printed yet and I don't think it will be printed in that form, because it is too long.
But I have a feeling the Ombudsman will have a serious look at this, because he has already chided the paper two or three weeks ago for being slow on the DSM. After his criticism, the paper put a DSM story on the front page.
Ombudsman Michael Getler's column appears on Sundays and I will look for his column tomorrow and report here.
ecoast |
06.18.05 - 2:53 pm | #
Fucking Jeb. Why didn't he tell his brother to err on the side of life when he was the governor of Texas?
'Cause niggers and criminals arent people anymore.
because him and frist are fighting over the same voters in primary 2008.
jdw |
06.18.05 - 2:53 pm | #
Res Ipsa, if Marbury v. Madison goes, just hope it is before your bar exam. It will make the ConLaw sections easier.
Omnes ... Even if it did it wouldn't matter for BE purposes. Chemerinsky told us last week that we should IGNORE anything that comes down in the next few weeks as the BE tests on law up to June 2004. Thanks, though.
And I know what you mean about tax!
res ipsa loquitur |
06.18.05 - 2:53 pm | #
Ah yes, once again we get to the root cause of homelessness and poverty: Motivation.
Just give them the right kick in the pants, and they'll bootstrap themselves into thriving business tycoons in no time!
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 2:54 pm | #
Greg Mitchell's piece was perfect. I emailed him to tell him so.
janeboatler |
06.18.05 - 2:54 pm | #
Life is for White Christian Folk™.
Handy that the White Christian Party is in charge, then!
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 2:54 pm | #
Handy that the White Christian Party is in charge, then!
Boooooyeah.
Now if only all of those poor persecuted xtians might read the memo and quit complaining.
Milbank is a twisted soul who has long since shed the last vestige of his humanity.
rorschach |
06.18.05 - 2:59 pm | #
Can somebody tell me this: Why does the idea of hypocritical thinking resonate on our side and not on theirs? Also I would really like to be informed if there are similar hypocrisies on our side that I am blind to.
Something along the same lines as "culture of life/death penalty in Texas/kill the brown people" or "Jesus/hatred" or even "American style democracy/they have no rights because they might be bad."
Virginia |
06.18.05 - 2:59 pm | #
Stunned by Milbank pulling this -- I really thought better of him -- he was about the best at WaPo -- the sad thing is, he still might be...
Prior Aelred |
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06.18.05 - 3:00 pm | #
The AP Downing Street Memo Story is pretty good, but it is only rated three stars by people... let's get it to a five!
Toby Dodge, an Iraq expert who teaches at Queen Mary College, University of London, said the documents confirmed what post-invasion investigations have found.
"The documents show what official inquiries in Britain already have, that the case of weapons of mass destruction was based on thin intelligence and was used to inflate the evidence to the level of mendacity," Dodge said. "In going to war with Bush, Blair defended the special relationship between the two countries, like other British leaders have. But he knew he was taking a huge political risk at home. He knew the war's legality was questionable and its unpopularity was never in doubt."
Dodge said the memos also show Blair was aware of the postwar instability that was likely among Iraq's complex mix of Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds once Saddam was defeated.
The British documents confirm, as well, that "soon after 9/11 happened, the starting gun was fired for the invasion of Iraq," Dodge said...
The Innocents Abroad |
06.18.05 - 3:00 pm | #
(holding breath)
Dude, stop it. We don't want to lose you.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 3:01 pm | #
Jeb, of course, lies in his letter to the NYT. There were NO highly respected neurologists who believed that she could be rehabilitated. The ones who pronounced it possible were all quacks.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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06.18.05 - 3:01 pm | #
Hypocritical thinking does not register on the right, because they will say wht they need to to win on a given day -- trusting that the media will not call them on it and that average person will not be paying attention.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:03 pm | #
Jeb, of course, lies in his letter to the NYT. There were NO highly respected neurologists who believed that she could be rehabilitated. The ones who pronounced it possible were all quacks.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
But...but...First watched video for a whole hour before making his diagnosis! How can you call such dedication the sign of a quack?
rorschach |
06.18.05 - 3:03 pm | #
I think he just got caught up in a snarky moment and did not have time to rethink the piece and his editor was probably absent that evening.
You just pointed out exactly what is wrong with the WaPo. First, a reporter's job is not to provide snark (that's for the opinion columnists and comedians) or impose his views on the reader. He was sent to cover the Dem's meeting and report the FACTS of what took place in the meeting. And second, if the editors did not see a big, stinking lack of journalistic quality to a snarky NEWS artical, you have a real, major problem with bias. I find it truly scary what passes for journalism at most of this country's major newspapers.
bigvic |
06.18.05 - 3:03 pm | #
(turning blue)
OK, that was an exercise in futility.
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06.18.05 - 3:03 pm | #
Do you really see Tobe, or Ted, or hat or Avestus or any of our other favorites wearing boots?
You clueless idiots. I decided to take a pass on enlisting for one simple reason - I am not needed. Got that? Our "professional" armed forces already have the situation well in hand, liberal media propaganda nothwithstanding.
Thus, those of us who prefer to pursue other vocations (and yes, I can still have an opinion on the war even though I opted for a non-military career) can do so with a clear conscience, realizing that adding a bunch of amateur soldiers into the mix would likely make things worse, not better.
It's as if I were being asked to rush into the hills and offer my services to the fire department, in order to help put out a brush fire that was already well in hand. If the fire was out of control and threatening to start burning up houses in my neighborhood, then volunteering would make sense. But that's hardly the case here.
But please, don't let me interupt your little moonbat circle jerk. Carry on.
Avestus |
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06.18.05 - 3:04 pm | #
Journalistic ethics are for pussies.
watertiger |
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06.18.05 - 3:04 pm | #
The ones who pronounced it possible were all quacks.
Wapo's Dana Milbank today. This is his penance for his Thursday report.
Out of President's Sight, Arlington's Rows of Grief Expand
By Dana Milbank
Saturday, June 18, 2005; Page A06
President Bush was in Minnesota yesterday talking about Medicare. The House was debating United Nations dues. And at Arlington National Cemetery, Army Spec. Louis E. Niedermeier of Largo, Fla., was being placed in Section 60, Grave 8188.
Sixteen days earlier in Ramadi, Iraq, according to his family, Niedermeier, a scout who pointed lasers to guide missiles to targets, was shot in the head by a sniper as he stepped from a Humvee. He was 20 years old.
At left in front row, Denise Hoy and Edward Niedermeier, parents of Army Spec. Louis E. Niedermeier, 20, of Largo, Fla., attend his Arlington National Cemetery interment. He was the 144th Iraq fatality buried there.
At left in front row, Denise Hoy and Edward Niedermeier, parents of Army Spec. Louis E. Niedermeier, 20, of Largo, Fla., attend his Arlington National Cemetery interment. He was the 144th Iraq fatality buried there. (By Andrea Bruce Woodall -- The Washington Post)
Suggest a Sketch
What scenes of Washington politics would you like Dana Milbank to write about? E-mail your suggestions of people, places or events -- along with your name and hometown to Sketch@washpost.com.
Niedermeier, one of more than 1,700 American men and women who have died in Iraq, is the 144th to be laid to rest at Arlington. Arlington, just two miles from the White House, buries the Iraq dead at a rate of one or two a week.
But the nation's leaders are missing these somber and patriotic pageants. Members of Congress rarely attend. Top Pentagon officials do so only occasionally. And President Bush has yet to bury a fallen warrior.
Niedermeier was an enlisted man. He was just a kid who worked at Best Buy and joined the military because of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, so he did not qualify for the military band and horse-drawn caisson that officers get. But even his modest ceremony merited six military pallbearers, a seven-member drill team, a bugler and an Army chaplain. "Today, we lay to rest another patriot," Chaplain Kenneth Kerr told mourners. "Our nation owes him a debt of gratitude."
On bended knee, Gen. Michael L. Combest handed a folded flag to the grieving mother, Denise Hoy. She accepted her son's Bronze Star, Purple Heart and Good Conduct medal. After the rounds were fired and taps was played, she turned, sobbing, to speak. "I am so proud of my son," she said.
Aides say Bush has not attended a military funeral because he does not want to favor one ultimate sacrifice over another. They point out that he meets frequently with wounded troops and relatives of the dead, and he has remembered fallen soldiers on Memorial Day and similar observances. "Their funerals are a time for their family and friends to mourn and remember their loved one in a private way," said Scott McClellan, White House press secretary.
This is a departure from past presidents' practices. President Jimmy Carter attended ceremonies for troops killed in the failed hostage-rescue mission in Iran. President Ronald Reagan attended a service for Marines killed in Beirut. President Clinton went to Andrews Air Force Base to see the coffins of Americans killed in a terrorist attack in Nairobi in 1998.
Bush's absence from funerals has kept them off the front pages, one of several administration policies that have minimized Americans' exposure to the costs of war. The Pentagon has cracked down on allowing photographs of flag-draped caskets as they arrive at military bases. And, late last year, the administration began enforcing restrictions that keep photographers and reporters some 50 yards from services.
There is still no memorial for the Iraq dead, but their rows in Section 60 show the signs of fresh grief and recent death. Thirteen graves are too new to have tombstones yet; green metal markers with photos of the fallen suffice. Four graves have been filled so recently that they do not even have sod yet, just newly packed earth.
The Iraq dead, mixed with some of the 16 killed in Afghanistan, take up three rows in the cemetery and have begun to fill a fourth. The Iraq rows (a few soldiers from other wars are intermingled) begin with an Army Ranger killed on March 11, 2003, and show the extraordinary diversity of the military: There are standard crosses, Methodist crosses, Jewish Stars of David, the Mormon Angel Moroni, the Muslim crescent and star, and symbols of Asian faiths. One grave is adorned with baby pictures of the deceased. Other, larger stones, mark the mixed remains of troops killed in helicopter crashes and the like.
Awaiting the casket, Niedermeier's grave, the ninth one in the fourth row of the Iraq dead, held a concrete liner and was surrounded by synthetic turf. Ten chairs for the immediate family occupied the spot where the next Iraq burial will likely occur. A breeze tossed orchids from a graveside wreath.
The whole ceremony was executed in half an hour with mechanized precision. The drill team marched onto the field with their rifles. The bugler took position. And the pallbearers marched over to meet the hearse. Niedermeier's father, mother, grandmother and 11-year-old stepsister, all in black, followed the heavy metal casket to the grave.
Kerr, in his eulogy, recalled that Niedermeier "joined the United States Army by choice. This is what he wanted to do." He said the soldier fell "in service to the Iraqi people who are struggling for freedom." As well, Kerr said, "he wore that uniform for you, for me."
The chaplain read the 23rd Psalm. The drill team fired. The 11-year-old covered her ears. The bugler played. The mourners touched handkerchiefs to their eyes.
The brief ceremony over, Niedermeier's father, Edward, rose to speak to the mourners and reminded them that Wednesday would have been Louis's birthday. "He should have been 21," Niedermeier said. The mourners returned to their cars, the honor guard retreated, and the Niedermeiers, clutching their son's flags and medals, lingered a few moments longer at his grave.
Our "professional" armed forces already have the situation well in hand, liberal media propaganda nothwithstanding.
Huh, and that with Rummy saying just two days ago that it's no safer in Iraq than it was under Saddam. And with recruiters themselves saying they are falling far short of goals...
Either medicate the troll or shoot it. I'm not terribly particular as to which.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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06.18.05 - 3:06 pm | #
Omnes ... Worse than tax?
O conveys: “To A for life, remainder to B, provided, H/E, that if B dies
res ipsa loquitur |
06.18.05 - 3:06 pm | #
I decided to take a pass on enlisting for one simple reason - I am not needed. Got that? Our "professional" armed forces already have the situation well in hand, liberal media propaganda nothwithstanding.
This has got to be a parody, right?
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 3:07 pm | #
BTW, if anyone's creating a DSM timeline, add this to the mix:
"When Prime Minister Tony Blair's chief foreign policy adviser dined with Condoleezza Rice six months after Sept. 11, the then-U.S. national security adviser didn't want to discuss Osama bin Laden or al-Qaida. She wanted to talk about "regime change" in Iraq, setting the stage for the U.S.-led invasion more than a year later."
watertiger |
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06.18.05 - 3:07 pm | #
The ones who pronounced it possible were all quacks.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
There you go again, acting all like facts matter, when we all know that science/scientists is/are bullshit unless the message is what we want to hear.
Virginia |
06.18.05 - 3:08 pm | #
Sallyh --
This adminstration is run by "quacks" (i.e., "the faith based community") -- they don't believe in global warming (inlike the genuine scientists) or evoliution (ditto), etc. This is really all of a piece -- reject reality because it is too hard (like prezniting)
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06.18.05 - 3:08 pm | #
Avestus, you stupid fuck
The Army will gladly train you first so they won't be rushing an amateur into the battle. But you think the situation is well in hand so maybe you couldn't pass the IQ test. They can't do much for that.
The first six months of this year are already more deadly for US troops than the first six months of last year. Wrap your limited mind around that, asswipe. The situation is not well in hand.
Toonscribe |
06.18.05 - 3:08 pm | #
Avestus, They will have time to train you. IIRC 11B OSUT is about 24 weeks. Cheney says we will still be in Iraq then. You can be a professional too.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:08 pm | #
NTodd--I'm surprised, coming from Saletan, who's normally such a Catholic apologist that it's sickening.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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06.18.05 - 3:09 pm | #
Some ex-Bush admin focker on Faux News just blamed Clinton for 9/11.
like this whore?
Governor George Pataki at the 2004 Republican National Convention:
I thank God that on September 11th, we had a president who didn't wring his hands and wonder what America had done wrong to deserve this attack. I thank God we had a president who understood that America was attacked, not for what we had done wrong, but for what we do right. The president took strong action to protect our country. That sounds like something any president would do. How I wish that were so.
You know the history. Osama bin Laden declared war on America -- and then came the attacks -- the first World Trade Center, the embassies, the USS Cole, hundreds dead, thousands injured.
PATAKI: How I wish the administration at that time, in those years, had done something.
How I wished they had moved to protect us. But they didn't do it.
On September 11th, al Qaeda attacked again. But this time they made a terrible mistake. There's one thing they didn't bank on. They didn't bank on George W. Bush.
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focus |
06.18.05 - 3:09 pm | #
Thus, those of us who prefer to pursue other vocations (and yes, I can still have an opinion on the war even though I opted for a non-military career)
You can get up to six months leave now from your government trolling career under the armies "Troll to Green" program.
You're allowed to keep your troll rank during the lateral shift from Troll Corps to 11B and you're also eligible for combat pay (since baiting liberals isn't considered hazardess duty).
Not to worry friend, when I go, I'm going with the Zombie program. I'll try only to feast on the shriveled brains of wingnuts like Avestus though.
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™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 3:10 pm | #
Have all y'all read Saletan's piece about the Schiavo autopsy and Schindler denial?
Fairly representative of the Bush administration: cherry pick facts, deny reality.
watertiger |
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06.18.05 - 3:10 pm | #
Innocents,
I rated it 5 stars. Wow! How pathetic that 2 years after the fact we finally get the truth. You just know the Bu$h fans will tut tut these revelations and go onto new Monkey Boy meme that it was all about "freedom and democracy" all along and that WMD and mushroom clouds were secondary. My head hurt.
bigvic |
06.18.05 - 3:10 pm | #
Latest news from Guantanamo: A man who was severely beaten by MPs and now suffers from seizures and headaches is now suing the Pentagon...
And here's the kicker. He's a US military policeman himself!
Personally, I think he's just pissed 'cuz he didn't get two kinds of fruit:
A U.S. military policeman who was beaten by fellow MPs during a botched training drill at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, prison for detainees has sued the Pentagon for $15 million, alleging that the incident violated his constitutional rights.
Spec. Sean Baker, 38, was assaulted in January 2003 after he volunteered to wear an orange jumpsuit and portray an uncooperative detainee. Baker said the MPs, who were told that he was an unruly detainee who had assaulted an American sergeant, inflicted a beating that resulted in a traumatic brain injury.
Baker, a Persian Gulf War veteran who re-enlisted after the Sept. 11 terror attacks, was medically retired in April 2004. He said the assault had left him with seizures, blackouts, headaches, insomnia and psychological problems.
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The Pentagon first said that Baker's hospitalization after the training incident was not related to the beating. Later, officials conceded that he had been treated for injuries suffered when a five-man MP "internal reaction force" choked him, slammed his head several times against a concrete floor and sprayed him with pepper gas.
rorschach |
06.18.05 - 3:11 pm | #
Suggest a Sketch
What scenes of Washington politics would you like Dana Milbank to write about? E-mail your suggestions of people, places or events -- along with your name and hometown to Sketch@washpost.com.
Mr. Milbank,
I would love to read an insider's retrospective of President Bush's hilarious Radio and Television Correspondents Association comedy routine about the missing WMD. I hope you can bring some of your wonderful snark to bear, it would be such a hoot!
...those of us who prefer to pursue other vocations...
babble babble babble clinton got a blow job babble babble they hate us for our freedom babble i am not needed that's why i refuse to fight babble babble babble they get chicken--chicken! that's better than my kids eat babble babble babble michael moore is fat babble something about negroes babble babble babble if you spin around 50 times after doing 12 shots of jagermeister while humming "it had to be you" you can definitely see the place from which you can see the point at which we will turn the corner in iraq ...
res ipsa loquitur |
06.18.05 - 3:12 pm | #
Oops, forgot the name and town.
But at least I kept it "pithy" -- O'Really would be proud.
melior |
06.18.05 - 3:13 pm | #
The first six months of this year are already more deadly for US troops than the first six months of last year.
Avestus, they need you!
rorschach |
06.18.05 - 3:13 pm | #
ror, the good news is, the other MPs all passed with flying colors! Good work, boys!
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 3:13 pm | #
Res,
Oddly, the Rule against Perps. made sense to me at the time. Flat tax or Communism, whichever eliminated my tax exams would have gotten my vote though. Best Rule for the BE comes from H2G2 "Don't Panic."
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:14 pm | #
Bush now running up a deficit in political capital:
WASHINGTON - President Bush said Saturday that pulling out of Iraq now is not an option, rejecting calls by some lawmakers and many people asked in polls to start bringing U.S. troops home.
"The terrorists and insurgents are trying to get us to retreat. Their goal is to get us to leave before Iraqis have had a chance to show the region what a government that is elected and truly accountable to its citizens can do for its people," Bush said in his weekly radio address.
"We will settle for nothing less than victory" over terrorists there, he said later.
Japanese B. Embalmer sends regards.
watertiger |
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06.18.05 - 3:15 pm | #
*shake fist at watertiger*
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 3:15 pm | #
milbank was okay until he commented that bush's absence keeps their deaths off the front pages. No, his editors keep their deaths off the front pages.
Atrios |
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06.18.05 - 3:16 pm | #
ror, the good news is, the other MPs all passed with flying colors! Good work, boys!
Eli
I am so proud of our boys. They are world class in beating the fuck out of whomever.
rorschach |
06.18.05 - 3:16 pm | #
Slightly OT, but I have just realized that bin Laden is the Darth Sidious to the Anakin, er, American people.
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 3:16 pm | #
Eli, I'm seeing "Batman Begins" tonight with Greenback J. Gravitates and Craving Mature. Would you care to send a message?
watertiger |
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06.18.05 - 3:16 pm | #
I remember Chris Matthews was pretty angry about those tasteless jokes as well. Here he is on the March 25th, 2004 episode of Hardball with Tucker Eskew of the Bush Administration...
MATTHEWS: Would you have him tell those jokes as he tours the hospitals?
(CROSSTALK)
ESKEW: He tours the hospitals an awful lot. He doesn‘t need a lesson in compassion toward the American soldiers, Chris.
MATTHEWS: No, it‘s just he has a—maybe there‘s a question here of taste.
ESKEW: I think the president has very good taste.
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: You felt the jokes were right?
ESKEW: That‘s self-deprecation, Chris. I think you misinterpret it.
MATTHEWS: So you think the guys who got hurt and killed in this war thought it was funny?
ESKEW: I wouldn‘t say that and I don‘t think you really mean that.
(CROSSTALK)
MATTHEWS: I just don‘t think it was funny. I was there last night.
I didn‘t think it was funny.
Moonlight |
06.18.05 - 3:17 pm | #
Ai-YEEEEE!
Reed Makes First Run for Office in Ga.
By DICK PETTYS
ATLANTA - For two decades, Ralph Reed made his mark as a squeaky-clean political operator and a driving force behind the Christian right. Now he's trying to get himself into elected office amid allegations he raked in money from the same gambling interests he once called "a cancer on the American body politic."
The former organizer for the Christian Coalition and adviser to presidential campaigns is seeking to become Georgia's first Republican lieutenant governor since Reconstruction, a largely powerless post that could serve as a stepping stone to higher office.
a post at kos links to rush's new apparel line. the really funny thing is -- check out the sizes. how fucking huge must you be to wear XXXXL:
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bkny |
06.18.05 - 3:17 pm | #
Eli, I'm seeing "Batman Begins" tonight with Greenback J. Gravitates and Craving Mature. Would you care to send a message?
Yes. Please try to get pictures of watertiger in her underwear.
You know, I could just say that Milbank is a stupid twat who doesn't deserve his job, but considering who he works for, it would end up being the thin end of the wedge.
No offense intended to stupid twats.
Or clever ones, for that matter.
More booze, please. (hic)
Death of Rats |
06.18.05 - 3:18 pm | #
his editors keep their deaths off the front pages.
Atrios
Excellent point.
Damn those liberal editors in the liberal media....
Toonscribe |
06.18.05 - 3:18 pm | #
This has got to be a parody, right?
NTodd |
Yeah, but it's old -- didn't DeLay assert something kind of similar about Vietnam, that all the minorities had taken up all the available cannon-fodder spaces so that he couldn't serve?
I'm thinking there are a fair number of raw recruits, not career military executives, who are getting their asses blown up. But I could be wrong. Are all our troops in Clusterfuckistan advanced professionals?
Virginia |
06.18.05 - 3:18 pm | #
a post at kos links to rush's new apparel line. the really funny thing is -- check out the sizes. how fucking huge must you be to wear XXXXL:
Um, the same size as the proprietor?
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 3:19 pm | #
Avestus, I don't think anyone's buying your "I'm not needed"... perhaps it's time to switch to Tom Delay's old standby excuse:
Too many brown people applying, no room for me!
melior |
06.18.05 - 3:19 pm | #
Note that the army is a bit short of personel since they're now transferring people out of the Navy.
SWR
I also noticed that when they were discussing "Operation Spear" or whatever the fuck they're calling today's "let's pretend we're winning the war by killing 50 insurgents" moment, the reporter kept saying the operation involved 1000 Marines and sailors. What are sailors doing fighting a ground war in the deserts on the Syrian border?
TJ |
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06.18.05 - 3:19 pm | #
We have a rat in our yard. Big sucker, too. Scruffy is driving the cats insane. The dog ran away when she saw it.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere |
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06.18.05 - 3:20 pm | #
Avestus, I don't think anyone's buying your "I'm not needed"... perhaps it's time to switch to Tom Delay's old standby excuse:
Too many brown people applying, no room for me!
Why do the negroes hate America???
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 3:20 pm | #
"...choked him, slammed his head several times against a concrete floor and sprayed him with pepper gas."
What scenes of Washington politics would you like Dana Milbank to write about? E-mail your suggestions of people, places or events -- along with your name and hometown to Sketch@washpost.com.
Mr. Milbank,
I would love to read an insider's retrospective of President Bush's hilarious Radio and Television Correspondents Association...
Love,
-melior
melior
This is interesting. When I copy/pasted Milbank's report, it picked the sidebar. Milbank's reports are now like a column (in newspages, not on op-ed page) called "Washington Sketch". So this is like a promotion for him, a bit more freedom and more visibility.
So write to him at ketch@washpost.com
with topic suggestions.
ecoast |
06.18.05 - 3:21 pm | #
What are sailors doing fighting a ground war in the deserts on the Syrian border?
IIRC Marines use Navy Corpmen as medics.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:21 pm | #
Most of those sailers they're transferring to Iraq have no more experience as infantary than "Avestus" does.
It's kind of like moving people from traffic duty and desk work in the NYPD to the FDNY.
I'm betting Avestus is under 40.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 3:22 pm | #
I am so proud of our boys. They are world class in beating the fuck out of whomever.
I remember that story. Talk about one of many Shark Jumping moments.
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Kent™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 3:22 pm | #
Note that the army is a bit short of personel since they're now transferring people out of the Navy.
SWR
Battalion commanders have also been forbidden to release recruits for being drug users or being physically out of shape.
rorschach |
06.18.05 - 3:22 pm | #
Wapo's Dana Milbank today. This is his penance for his Thursday report.
Sorry, but you don't get a pass for bad journalism just because you do your job properly SOME of the time. That's the problem. The editors and publishers of the papers don't establish solid principals to hold their staff to anymore. Dismissing any and all criticism of Bu$h after 911, before the Iraq invasion don't get swept away because of a few decent pieces of work.
The WashPo has editors? You're kidding, right?
melior |
06.18.05 - 3:23 pm | #
MATTHEWS: You felt the jokes were right?
ESKEW: That‘s self-deprecation, Chris. I think you misinterpret it.
SELF-deprecation, how humble of him
focus |
06.18.05 - 3:24 pm | #
P.S., Omnes ...
In my fax final a woman started to cry. At first she was quiet, but as the exam went on, she was quite overcome. Everyone could hear it. Then, one of the alpha-males said (loud), "X, shut the fuck up or get the hell out." Don't you miss law school?
res ipsa loquitur |
06.18.05 - 3:24 pm | #
Squeaky and Corpsmen. I CAN spell. I blame HaloScan. I don't thinking I have been posting here long enough to feel comfortable blaming Eli.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:24 pm | #
Who/what is H2G2?
Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy.
Perhaps not otherwise much help for the Bar, although perhaps a babelfish or towel could come in handy...
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 3:24 pm | #
IIRC Marines use Navy Corpmen as medics.
Yep. My dad is retired Navy, brought that up the other day.
chris/tx |
06.18.05 - 3:24 pm | #
focus
he's to oxi for his shirt
he's detoxi for his shirt
magnolia's propaganda ministry |
06.18.05 - 3:25 pm | #
Kent--Yeah. I hope he wins the settlement...and the amazing thing is, part of his lawsuit is a demand that the military give him a position he can perform in spite of his disabilities! After all that, he still wants to serve...
Jesus, Mary, Joseph. I'm speechless.
mer
Yes, mer. When I read it to my wife, she said, "Fuck, just when you thought they couldn't possibly be more irresponsible..."
rorschach |
06.18.05 - 3:25 pm | #
I don't thinking I have been posting here long enough to feel comfortable blaming Eli.
If you've been here long enough to know about it, you've probably been here long enough to do it...
(looking forward to impending merger to create The Ultimate Saboteur, EliScan)
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 3:26 pm | #
Res,
H2G2 = Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:26 pm | #
Yeah. I hope he wins the settlement...and the amazing thing is, part of his lawsuit is a demand that the military give him a position he can perform in spite of his disabilities! After all that, he still wants to serve...
I hope he gets his wish. He is probably interested in seeing that no one ever have to endure what he has.
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Kent™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 3:29 pm | #
I'm seeing "Batman Begins" tonight
Fucking awesome flick. Perfect, even with Little Miss Blooming Scientologist.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 3:30 pm | #
I decided to take a pass on enlisting for one simple reason - I am not needed. Got that?
Yeah, there are still Chee-Tos that need to be eaten before the Islamofascists are well and truly defeated. And he isn't even half-way through Rainbow Six, the completion of which will also bring the war to a swift successful end as the enemy is demoralized by our superiour X-Box skills. Besides, if he schlepped his cowardly ass over to the war zone who would be left here to valiantly and nobly troll on Eschaton and denounce our counter-revolutionary anti-Party badthink?
Pere Ubu |
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06.18.05 - 3:31 pm | #
BTW the fuckwits calling the US Open, just took the opportunity to shit on Gore.
Time to watch really stupid SciFi movie starring Lorenzo Lamas.
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Kent™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 3:31 pm | #
HG2G correction noted thanks
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:33 pm | #
Anyone got some spare freeance? I just ran out.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 3:33 pm | #
Yeah. I hope he wins the settlement...and the amazing thing is, part of his lawsuit is a demand that the military give him a position he can perform in spite of his disabilities! After all that, he still wants to serve...
WTF??????? I guess I just don't get it. Is this for real?
bigvic |
06.18.05 - 3:34 pm | #
Also, I'm betting that chances are slim for clubbing tonight. The prick cop that wrote my last ticket failed to return my driver's license, and there aren't too many clubs downtown that don't check everyone's IDs before they're admitted... even old bastids like m'self.
So, maybe I should go home and do a load of sheets and towels...?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 3:35 pm | #
How sophomoric.
How typical.
How creepy that Preznit Asshole laughs at his own "jokes."
Terry C |
06.18.05 - 3:36 pm | #
maybe the sailors in the desert are building an ark.
gary in fl |
06.18.05 - 3:36 pm | #
OK what the hell is peeance and freeance?
/dumb bunny
Seriously? I figger the latter referrs to France, but not really sure.
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Kent™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 3:36 pm | #
...those of us who prefer to pursue other vocations...
Verbose version of "have other priorities".
Why is it so hard for chickenhawks to simply say "I'm a coward"?
QuentinCompson |
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06.18.05 - 3:37 pm | #
Anyone got some spare freeance? I just ran out.
Nah, but I got me some nice peance if you need any.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 3:37 pm | #
Kent™ Embigulator: Seriously? I figger the latter referrs to France, but not really sure.
Bushian mangling of (presumably) "peace and freedom."
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 3:38 pm | #
WTF??????? I guess I just don't get it. Is this for real?
bigvic
It is for real. Wherein lies the confusion?
rorschach |
06.18.05 - 3:38 pm | #
This latest Jeb Bush Schiavo travesty isn't getting any traction... or is it? I think even the crazy nutcase fundies have already moved along.
Does anyone on their side have energy left for this crappola? I admit I don't watch TV news so I could be seriously wrong in my assessment.
Anybody know?
Jenny from the ßlog • |
06.18.05 - 3:39 pm | #
NTodd: Nah, but I got me some nice peance if you need any.
Is it the fresh stuff, or that brown, commercial Mexican stuff?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 3:39 pm | #
Why is it so hard for chickenhawks to simply say "I'm a coward"?
'Cause that would be "being truthful". And they can't handle the truth.
Kent™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 3:39 pm | #
I remember very well when Poppy went boating off the coast of Kennebunkport during the height of Gulf War I. It went over like a lead balloon with the public.
I would think this tasteless "humor" of Bush's would have an ever more pronounced affect of disgusting people.
There's nothing funny about a war and there sure as hell isn't anything funny about a preznit lying and invading another country. Seventeen hundred dead Americans and thousands of dead Iraqis is not laughing matter - it's really beyond the pale that he joked about his lies.
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06.18.05 - 3:40 pm | #
jdw: "On one hand we have people like Brooks telling us that democrats are out of touch with middle america because we treat them like rubes, and they are anything but."
Res, I liked law school. It was a great break from the real world of working. I am working on schemes to get back to academia again
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:40 pm | #
So let's see, two helicopter crashes in NYC this week.
Gee, you think the helicopter mechanics who aren't in Iraq just might be pulling double shifts these days?
SWR |
06.18.05 - 3:41 pm | #
How creepy that Preznit Asshole laughs at his own "jokes."
dead giveaway of insecurity.
watertiger |
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06.18.05 - 3:41 pm | #
The people dying are not Real People to them. They don't know them; they aren't the son or daughter of a contributor or business partner, so it is like an Ahhnold movie... funny because it's not real.
Omnes Omnibus
That's what the "lower classes" are for - to serve their "masters."
Even if it means getting their kids killed.
Terry C |
06.18.05 - 3:42 pm | #
...what tickles the collective funny bone of the Washington press.
What in the fuck is wrong with these people?
Paul |
06.18.05 - 3:42 pm | #
Perhaps the WDM are in Aruba. Has anyone thought to search there, hmm?
"No, no. I don't have any regrets at all that I stood up for what I believed was right in defending a disabled person from being executed," Santorum said at a briefing that he initiated with reporters who cover state government.
..snip
Santorum also complained that the news media ignored him.
In a current fund-raising letter, Santorum said he had doubts about the media's ability to tell the truth about his record. When asked whether he was accusing the news media of lying, Santorum criticized what he regarded as insufficient coverage. "I can give you plenty of examples of [how] the mainstream media has fundamentally ignored my record and chronically does so. If you don't tell what goes on, that's not telling the truth."
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06.18.05 - 3:45 pm | #
Hey, has anyone heard from surfdork? Mrs. surfdork was due, like, any day now.
TJ |
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06.18.05 - 3:45 pm | #
That's what the "lower classes" are for - to serve their "masters."
Even if it means getting their kids killed.
Terry C
Avestus is Upper Class? Wow, I am so impressed.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:45 pm | #
Hey Kent!
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06.18.05 - 3:46 pm | #
Avestus is Upper Class? Wow, I am so impressed.
No Avestus would be upper class if it weren't for liberals and blacks keeping him down.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 3:48 pm | #
Perfect, even with Little Miss Blooming Scientologist.
That's "Mrs. Tom Cruise" to you. If all goes according to the aliens' plans.
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06.18.05 - 3:50 pm | #
OT. A MetLife Blimp is flying over Columbus Ohio. I wonder why we don't rate a Goodyear Blimp.
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 3:51 pm | #
Nicole Brown Simpson's Murder was Videotaped!"
Now them's good eats!
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06.18.05 - 3:51 pm | #
Omnes Omnibus: I wonder why we don't rate a Goodyear Blimp.
One of 'em crashed the other day... maybe that was the closest one to Cols?
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06.18.05 - 3:52 pm | #
Milbank is skull and bones... they run the country and control who runs for president.
You got a problem with that?
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06.18.05 - 3:52 pm | #
Hey, gang. Just a drive-by, but I thought this was very cool. Remember those "click once a day" buttons at the Rain Forest/Hunger/etc. sites that we never remember to visit? Well, someone's got a Firefox plugin to remind you every day.
That's all. Catch you later!
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06.18.05 - 3:53 pm | #
Sallyh, on your rats-maybe Ahnold is feeding his excess steriods to them?
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06.18.05 - 3:53 pm | #
No Avestus would be upper class if it weren't for liberals and blacks keeping him down.
I thought that there was a pebble in my shoe, only to find that I had been standing on Avestus' neck.
Sorry dude, there, now you can enlist.
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Kent™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 3:53 pm | #
Also, I just wanted to say... Thela Hut Gingeet.
That is all.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 3:54 pm | #
Nicole Brown Simpson's Murder was Videotaped!
I KNEW IT!
That's "Mrs. Tom Cruise" to you. If all goes according to the aliens' plans.
Damned BTs, always interfering with my plans to marry hot starlets too young for me.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 3:54 pm | #
Why do these golfers hate Pinehurst No. 2?
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06.18.05 - 3:54 pm | #
Or maybe it was "Hun" and I just typo'd again.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 3:54 pm | #
...what tickles the collective funny bone of the Washington press.
think of a cafeteria full of low level white collars of a recently absorbed corporation. all scared shitless of being downsized. new idiot CEO mocks how he will cut healthcare with the throat slashing motion- the crowd roars with nervous laughter. how do i know, saw it with my own eyes... and happy days are here again
focus |
06.18.05 - 3:55 pm | #
Res, I liked law school.
I did too - once I got past the first year. I really enjoyed my second year of law school. The third began to wear on me, but all in all, it was a great experience.
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06.18.05 - 3:55 pm | #
IOKIYAR-
Imagine the hilarity if Bill had stood at the podium, started his speech, stopped, looked down and said "Monica, you get out of there!" Then a dark-haired women could have jumped out from beneath the podium and run off stage! Oh the repubs would have laughed at the self-mockery of a scene like that!
john mac dougall |
06.18.05 - 3:55 pm | #
NTodd ... You love the comely Ms. Holmes? A friend of mine is just crushed by this Cruise-News. He loves those girl-next-door types. Kristin Davis is another of his faves ...
res ipsa loquitur |
06.18.05 - 3:55 pm | #
Also, I just wanted to say... Thela Hut Gingeet.
He held a gun in his hand. It was a dangerous place...
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06.18.05 - 3:55 pm | #
Damned BTs, always interfering with my plans to marry hot starlets too young for me.
Born in 1978. That would make her 27.
Me 1971. A little old but much younger than Tom Cruise. And I'm taller too.
Then again there's that wealth, good looks, talent, connections in Hollywood, ripped body, and A list connection factor too that I'm sort of without.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 3:57 pm | #
Eli: He held a gun in his hand. It was a dangerous place...
What gun?! What dangerous place?! You're a policeman!
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 3:57 pm | #
Why are the sharks coordinating an attack on poor old Lorenzo Lamas' submarine?
15 minutes to Wapner. Or dry sheets & towels, I should say.
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06.18.05 - 3:59 pm | #
skull and bones... they run the country and control who runs for president.
Actually, we Free Masons do, but we let those silly little S&B boys think they do.
Why do these golfers hate Pinehurst No. 2?
Like you've never tripled.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 3:59 pm | #
Why are the sharks coordinating an attack on poor old Lorenzo Lamas' submarine?
Best shark movie ever made was "The Deep Blue Sea."
Ok. Not a great movie but you did get to see:
1.) Samuel L. Jackson eaten by a mutant shark.
2.) Saffron Burrows in a gratuituous wet t-shirt moment.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:00 pm | #
Man, I must have done something to piss off the gods of 2.4GHz today... either that, or someone's cooking a turkey in the microwave nextdoor...
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 4:01 pm | #
What are sailors doing fighting a ground war in the deserts on the Syrian border?
Sand yachts?
Problem is there is a shortage of patriotic Americans willing to fight for George Bush's false sense of machismo. I know that is surprising.
Funny thing is that even our trolls who need so badly to beleive in the laughable idea that George W. Bush being a "tough guy" aren't willing to back their leader up.
On second thoughts, if they weren't such menatal weaklings in the first place they wouldn't need a "strong man" Daddy figure like Bush in the first place. My bad.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.05 - 4:01 pm | #
res - I'm a sucker for girl nextdoor types. Plus, Katies hails from my old neighborhood almost literally: I grew up in the Toledo 'burbs.
SWR - one thing you have going for you that Cruise doesn't: you aren't a wacko member of a bogus religion-cum-pyramid scheme.
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06.18.05 - 4:02 pm | #
Best shark movie ever made was "The Deep Blue Sea."
Concur 100% on your assessment and justification.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 4:03 pm | #
Who should appear, but two policeman.
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.05 - 4:03 pm | #
NTodd: I'm a sucker for girl nextdoor types.
Who isn't? For me, it's Ashley Judd, who was raised by her grandmother in my hometown. I always figured it was just one of those inbred hillbilly thangs, but... you have to admit, she's pretty hot.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 4:05 pm | #
gratuituous wet t-shirt moment.
Most of todays SciFi fare seems to offer lots of such moments.
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Kent™ Embigulator |
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06.18.05 - 4:05 pm | #
Most of those sailers they're transferring to Iraq have no more experience as infantary than "Avestus" does.
Actually they do. (barely)
Those who are recruited under the program will undergo a four-week “warrior transition course” to learn basic combat skills.
How can four weeks be adequate? It appears that this replaces a nine week course.
This reminds me of those 15 month enlistments they have just thought up. Can you say "cannon fodder?"
____league |
06.18.05 - 4:06 pm | #
A friend of mine is just crushed by this Cruise-News.
What is there to be crushed about?
She's just a beard.
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06.18.05 - 4:06 pm | #
For me, it's Ashley Judd
Ever since she guested on that ST:TNG epi with the mind-control game thing, I was infatuated with her. And she's an excellent actress, despite some of her questionable movie choices at times.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 4:07 pm | #
Problem is there is a shortage of patriotic Americans willing to fight for George Bush's false sense of machismo. I know that is surprising.
I'm reading the new David McCullough book on George Washington and I came across this little gem of a quote from Joseph Reed (one of his senior officers).
When I look round, and see how few of the numbers who talked so largely of death and honor are around me, and that those from whom it was least expected...I am lost in wonder and suprise...Your noisy sons of liberty are, I find, the quietest in the field...An engagement, or even the expectation of one, gives a wonderful insight into character.
Jospeh Reed (no moonbat but a senior officer serving under George Washington).
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06.18.05 - 4:07 pm | #
SWR - one thing you have going for you that Cruise doesn't: you aren't a wacko member of a bogus religion-cum-pyramid scheme.
Cum pyramid?
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 4:07 pm | #
you aren't a wacko member of a bogus religion-cum-pyramid scheme.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Pere Ubu |
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06.18.05 - 4:07 pm | #
Ashley Judd
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I'm a big fan
magnolia's propaganda ministry |
06.18.05 - 4:08 pm | #
I thought Milbank's burial "sketch" was a posaic, predictable piece of shit.
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06.18.05 - 4:09 pm | #
I'm a sucker for girl nextdoor types.
Who isn't?
Ummm... me. I go for the exotic. And I am willing to accept the frequently co-existing eccentricities/craziness
Omnes Omnibus |
06.18.05 - 4:09 pm | #
She's not a girl next door unless she can beat you up.
will |
06.18.05 - 4:09 pm | #
SWR - one thing you have going for you that Cruise doesn't: you aren't a wacko member of a bogus religion-cum-pyramid scheme.
Yes I am. I'm a Christian.
BTW, after seeing "Go" I'd probably choose Sarah Polley over Katie Holmes. She's actually a socialist believe it or not.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:09 pm | #
NTodd: Ever since she guested on that ST:TNG epi with the mind-control game thing, I was infatuated with her.
I hear ya! Even though everyone hated his character, I always gave props to Wil Wheaton for Ashley being his first screen kiss.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 4:09 pm | #
Josh Marshall reviewed McCullough's book but he missed all the subtle anti-war stuff in it.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:10 pm | #
Cum pyramid?
Yeah, we Quakers are down on that. We prefer Naked Iraqi Pyramids.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Don't you EVER equate Rev. Bob with Tom Cruise again.
Ummm... me. I go for the exotic. And I am willing to accept the frequently co-existing eccentricities/craziness
I kinda have a thing for Fairuza Balk...
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06.18.05 - 4:11 pm | #
So good, it has to be repeated.
This is one of George Washington's senior officers:
When I look round, and see how few of the numbers who talked so largely of death and honor are around me, and that those from whom it was least expected...I am lost in wonder and suprise...Your noisy sons of liberty are, I find, the quietest in the field...An engagement, or even the expectation of one, gives a wonderful insight into character.
Josh (under 40 and supported the war) Marshall sort of missed that.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:11 pm | #
I laughed so hard while watching that Bush WMD video that I defecated on myself.
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06.18.05 - 4:13 pm | #
Don't you EVER equate Rev. Bob with Tom Cruise again.
Did "Bob" not tell us to cut out the middleman and become our own blasphemers?
Pere Ubu |
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06.18.05 - 4:14 pm | #
This reminds me of those 15 month enlistments they have just thought up.
The 15 month thinng is a scam. 15 months active duty (not including training) followed by two years in the Reserves or National Gaurd (pronounced "Iraq"), followed by five years in the Individual Ready Reserves (also pronounced "Iraq").
The Old Man From Scene 24 |
06.18.05 - 4:14 pm | #
NTodd: I'm a sucker for girl nextdoor types.
Two gay Italian dudes in their 70s live next door to me.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:15 pm | #
I go for the exotic.
Hey, if Monica Belluci, or that Bond Girl from For Your Eyes Only, came over and tried to seduce me, I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers. But they don't often live next door, and I'm kinda lazy.
Yes I am. I'm a Christian.
Wacko cult, yes. Pyramid scheme? Not unless you're also into Amway.
Even though everyone hated his character, I always gave props to Wil Wheaton for Ashley being his first screen kiss.
I like the character that he became. And really, TNG the first coupla seasons blew chunks all around, so it's not just Wes. I mean, BLUE FUCKING SHORTS as a uniform for Troi? Gates "Don't Get Me Wrong, I Love Her" McFadden as a doctor?
Bringing Murdoch on board as an engineer was the pinnacle of brilliance, a close second to putting Ashley on the crew. Damn she looked fine in a Star Fleet uniform.
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06.18.05 - 4:16 pm | #
Damn she looked fine in a Star Fleet uniform.
Something about this quote just says "30 year old virgin".
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:17 pm | #
Did "Bob" not tell us to cut out the middleman and become our own blasphemers?
Good point. Clearly I haven't been slacking enough since college.
Two gay Italian dudes in their 70s live next door to me.
What have you got against Wops?
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 4:17 pm | #
What have you got against Wops?
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 06.18.05 - 4:17 pm | #
Nothing. They give me food.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:18 pm | #
I had a crush on the girl who lived next door in high school, but she said she wouldn't date me because we lived too close to one another. Then what did she do? She started dating a guy who lived six houses away. So after that, when I got to college, I started dating insane women. That was an interesting and whole different story.....
Toonscribe |
06.18.05 - 4:22 pm | #
NTodd: I like the character that he became. And really, TNG the first coupla seasons blew chunks all around, so it's not just Wes. I mean, BLUE FUCKING SHORTS as a uniform for Troi? Gates "Don't Get Me Wrong, I Love Her" McFadden as a doctor?
TNG, DS:9 and Enterprise all got off to a horrible start, IMO. The third season for each show, they started climbing.
Bringing Murdoch on board as an engineer was the pinnacle of brilliance, a close second to putting Ashley on the crew. Damn she looked fine in a Star Fleet uniform.
I think Ashley was only in the two episodes, no? And as fine as she looked in the uniform, she looked better out of it (I mean, in the 23rd Century casual dress -- maybe I just liked more of her hair down).
Murdoch: Is that the nervous Reg guy?
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 4:23 pm | #
For me, it's Ashley Judd, who was raised by her grandmother in my hometown.
About half the time, it's my favorite movie.
QuentinCompson |
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06.18.05 - 4:24 pm | #
Something about this quote just says "30 year old virgin".
What, being married means I can't appreciate a beautiful body in a sci-fi show?
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 4:24 pm | #
The 15 month thinng is a scam.
That is what I figured. Right now it looks like anybody who has ever signed anything obligating them to any military service is eligible to spend multiple years in Iraq.
____league |
06.18.05 - 4:25 pm | #
What, being married means I can't appreciate a beautiful body in a sci-fi show?
No but if your 28 year old son who doesn't date came out with something like:
Damn she looked fine in a Star Fleet uniform.
wouldn't you be just a little bit worried?
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:25 pm | #
QuentinCompson: Ruby In Paradise is my favorite movie.
I don't remember much about it, except that Ashley never smiled in it. Have you seen that horrid movie with her and Luke Perry? Only redeeming feature is that Ashley spends a lot of time only partially clothed. I didn't think much of her as a blond...
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 4:27 pm | #
They give me food.
Lucky bastard. How's their risotto?
Katie Holmes probably doesn't cook.
I really don't care. With what she made from Batman Begins, we can order out.
Murdoch: Is that the nervous Reg guy?
Yeah, Dwight Shultz played Red Barclay. Murdock was my fave character in A-Team. He also played Oppenheimer in Fat Man and Little Boy.
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06.18.05 - 4:28 pm | #
if your 28 year old son who doesn't date came out with something like:
Damn she looked fine in a Star Fleet uniform.
wouldn't you be just a little bit worried?
Nah, I'd feel like I raised him right.
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 4:29 pm | #
The other half the time, my favorite movie is Ikiru.
The other half the time, my favorite movie is Contempt.
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QuentinCompson |
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06.18.05 - 4:30 pm | #
Ruby In Paradise is my favorite movie.
That is a really terrific movie. And I haven't seen it in years. To the video store!
res ipsa loquitur |
06.18.05 - 4:30 pm | #
Katie Holmes probably doesn't cook.
I really don't care. With what she made from Batman Begins, we can order out.
She'd make you sign a pre-nup.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:31 pm | #
Two gay Italian dudes in their 70s live next door to me.
The next time I move, I want that on my lease.
Meander |
06.18.05 - 4:31 pm | #
NTodd: Nah, I'd feel like I raised him right.
Ha! You said it. Those outfits could be a work of art on the right body, e.g. Nana Visitor during DS9's seventh season (after they finally let the woman wear her hair in a non-butch cut).
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 4:32 pm | #
Two gay Italian dudes in their 70s live next door to me.
The next time I move, I want that on my lease.
Meander | Email | Homepage | 06.18.05 - 4:31 pm | #
Well I can't be sure but rainbow flag sort of hints strongly at it.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:34 pm | #
Ha! You said it. Those outfits could be a work of art on the right body, e.g. Nana Visitor during DS9's seventh season (after they finally let the woman wear her hair in a non-butch cut).
You people are geeks.
SWR |
06.18.05 - 4:34 pm | #
SWR: You people are geeks.
Hey, feel free to let a costume stand in your way of appreciating the female form, if you wish.
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Jeffraham Prestonian |
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06.18.05 - 4:38 pm | #
She'd make you sign a pre-nup.
So long as we stay married, we can order out. When she dumps me for some other Hollywood hunk, at least People Magazine will effectively be running my classified ad for free! See, I got it all worked out...
NTodd |
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06.18.05 - 4:50 pm | #
blind item from nydaily news gossip column today. hmmm, i wonder who it could be:
So here's what I'm hearing about that relationship.
A source VERY close to the deal is saying there's a contract.
It's worth $5 million.
It's for five years.
There will be no sex.
The deal was sealed June 7.
That's what I'm hearing.
bkny |
06.18.05 - 4:51 pm | #
Little does SWR know, we all are jocks with ripped abs.
I'm hoping to get mine fixed.
It happened when I was reaching for my tricorder at an awkward angle. Owie.
Eli |
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06.18.05 - 5:12 pm | #
Nora O'Donnell actually giggled yesterday as she talked about Crazy Dick Durbin's comparing Gitmo to the Nazis.
redhead |
06.18.05 - 5:21 pm | #
Back on topic, I'd also like to chime in on Milbank's work in general. The DSM piece really seems out of character to me. He's usually a pretty straight shooter.
hamletta |
06.18.05 - 5:23 pm | #
I'll bet the freepers are just wetting their pants from this kind of "humour."
Terry C |
06.18.05 - 5:29 pm | #
What was even funnier was watching all the red faces on the left as they choked on their fury at watching their main point of attack get so neatly nullifed by a little humor
A little humour? You definitely must patronize Rush Limpdick's drug dealer!
Terry C |
06.18.05 - 5:37 pm | #
this has always struck me, the most when i first saw it.
the thoughts that always came to my mind were:
"this is my president?
then repulsion. anger. sadness.
"No, no. I don't have any regrets at all that I stood up for what I believed was right in defending a disabled person from being executed," Santorum said at a briefing that he initiated with reporters who cover state government.
Er, hello, asshole?
She was not disabled. She was braindead....you should know what that is, Rick, you fetus fetishist.
She was not executed...she should have been permitted to die with dignity and in peace 15 years ago, except that her parents are as priest-ridden as you are!
Shut the fuck up, man-on-dog...you are going down.
Terry C |
06.18.05 - 5:40 pm | #
"IOKIYAR-
Imagine the hilarity if Bill had stood at the podium, started his speech, stopped, looked down and said "Monica, you get out of there!" Then a dark-haired women could have jumped out from beneath the podium and run off stage! Oh the repubs would have laughed at the self-mockery of a scene like that!
john mac dougall "
Yeah, because as we all know a blow job is far, FAR worse than lying the nation into a war where thousands of people have been killed (so far).
The RePUKES are bizarros.
Terry C |
06.18.05 - 5:45 pm | #
said previously: If they were really afraid of WMD, they would have protected the dumps. Duh.
Flamethrower |
06.18.05 - 5:45 pm | #
"this is my president?
then repulsion. anger. sadness.
Not MY president...never MY president.
I didn't vote for that pathetic son of a bitch.
Terry C |
06.18.05 - 5:46 pm | #
You people are geeks.
SWR - 4:34 pm
uuummmmmm.....not so much...
nerds?
yeah, this is more a nerdy assembly.
geeks are lonely losers, pimpled, halitosis-ridden, monomaniacal, impetigo-crusted, cheeto-stained basement dwellers...Toby's a geek...
Nerds are not unattractive folks: there are handsome men and pretty women here (as well as handsome women and pretty men, i imagine).
but nerdy quirks impose a certain distance: more folks with strange, but harmless affectations and eccentric, eclectic interests...
obsessive punning? nerdy, not geeky
encyclopedic film trivia? nerdy, not geeky
comprehensive musicological and discographic citations? nerdy, not geeky
grammar/semantic cops? nerdy, not geeky (however, spelling cops are geeks, particularly when it's obvious it's a typo)
alternative cosmological awareness? nerdy (goddesses, please, it's true), not geeky
studied aversion to all but the most eccentric sports? nerdy, not geeky (geeks don't do sports, they do incessant video gaming)
just sayin'
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been a nerd for life, it seems...
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WoodyGuthriesGuitar (aka...) |
06.18.05 - 6:25 pm | #
Hahaha. 1,700 dead now, and who knows how many Iraqis that few Americans really care about.
Reminds me of Reagan's stupid "Bombing begins in five minutes" gaffe, that the press shook off as a joke. The Russians didn't laugh.
Pitchforks and Torches |
06.18.05 - 6:45 pm | #
And Dana Milbank is usually one of the less objectional ones. Folks, we're doomed.
Note to lurking trolls-by we're, I mean the human race.
Sweet Sue |
06.18.05 - 8:01 pm | #
I'd like to have footage of Bush telling his infamous trifecta gag and the typical GOP audience roaring their approval, too.
exgop |
06.18.05 - 8:02 pm | #
given the fact that dana 'knew' the weapons weren't there (http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2002/Bush-
Stretch-Truth22oct02.htm), why (other than being a bought and sold fuck) did he write that piece, i don't know
tofubo |
06.18.05 - 8:14 pm | #
He's a clip of the lying asshole joking about his lies that night, with the fuckwad 500 laughing along like the supposedly sophisticated morons they are.
This is one of George Washington's senior officers:
When I look round, and see how few of the numbers who talked so largely of death and honor are around me, and that those from whom it was least expected...I am lost in wonder and suprise...Your noisy sons of liberty are, I find, the quietest in the field...An engagement, or even the expectation of one, gives a wonderful insight into character.
Josh (under 40 and supported the war) Marshall sort of missed that.
SWR |
Thomas Paine's crisis papers. Inspiring.
Mr.Murder |
06.18.05 - 8:22 pm | #
it is unbelievable that this scene did not cause mass revulsion and deep soul searching by the majority of americans.
basically here's a guy responsible for starting a war because the other conutry had weapons of mass destruction...and then during correspondents dinner he laughed that he couldn't find the WMD in question...and 500 people laughed...
revolting...i lack words to express how i feel...
meanwhile 1700 americans dead and many, many more wounded - missing arms, legs, eyes, fingers.
I find myself running out of ways to say, "Fuck you, Dana Milbank."
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06.18.05 - 9:00 pm | #
Wasn't manwhore Jeff Gannon at the WHCD?
sean |
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06.18.05 - 9:12 pm | #
Wasn't manwhore Jeff Gannon at the WHCD?
At the 2004 WHCD, this is...as we all know, people shied away from him at the 2005 festivities.
sean |
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06.18.05 - 9:14 pm | #
Shit I thought Milbank was one of the good ones. Asshole!
tAiLS of twO kITtieS |
06.18.05 - 10:00 pm | #
Ray McGovern attacked the press. So Dana Milbanks took revenge by smearing him as an anti-semite.
haydn60 |
06.19.05 - 1:21 am | #
the GOP and GOP media: loathesome creatures.
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