I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
what melior said
I'll 3rd that opinion. Impeach the Monkey!
has anyone heard how the demfest in austin is going?
Chimpeach
Not a moment too soon...
Eli,
true dat. was about to throw a right cross.
Juneteenth?
IMPEACH BUSH! Blair should also be cast in chains and hauled off to The Hague.
from my last post: The Chilean Isla Negra Cabernet Sauvignon was going for £3.74 reduced from £5.99 at Tesco's, an extra 5% off if you buy 6.
Everytime Tesco does that offer my dad rushes down and buys up to 12 bottles or more cause the deal is really good.
was about to throw a right cross.
You can't hit me: I just took out my contacts and am wearing glasses...
Because there is never enough thread.
Um, you already said that...
Because there are never enough comments about enough thread.
gotta say how relieving it is to have blogosphere. You hear about something ghastly and at least you have the reassurance that somewhere some blogger is on the case. don't feel so helpless anymore.
Impeach Bush...et al. Every last m-effing one of them.
The Chilean Isla Negra Cabernet Sauvignon was going for £3.74 reduced from £5.99 at Tesco's, an extra 5% off if you buy 6.
So what is that in dollars, like, 20? 
attention Fairfax Democrats, FCDC blog is here-
http://fcdc.blogspot.com/
yes
I am going to keep this up all the way to November
Juneteenth?
You're a day early.
The price in dollars would be about 6 and a 3/4 dollars NTodd.
Afternoon again. Didn't even want to enter into the fray below. Lordy.
Who outed Valerie Plame?
Hey, I just came from a family lobster dinner -- apparently even we primitives can, on occasion, sit around for several hours drinking alcohol and not get into multiple altercations.
So I guess there's hope for us all.
Moonbootica - man, the dollar is stronger than I thought!
TJ - wimp.
A portion of John Prine's Lyrics to Some Human Ain't Human.
Have you ever noticed
When you're feeling really good
There's always a pigeon
That'll come shit on your hood
Or you're feeling your freedom
And the world's off your back
Some cowboy from Texas
Starts his own war in Iraq
Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind
They lie through their teeth
With their head up their behind
You open up their hearts
And here's what you'll find
Some humans ain't human
Some people ain't kind
Going out to early (west coast) dinner soon to get oldest dearest friend out of the house.
Still, wish I was having me some steak w/peppercorn sauce and sour cream choc cake.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........
Its $1.80 to the pound according to my dad.
Why did Bush insist on testifying before the 9/11 commission with Cheney at his side?
Juneteenth?
You're a day early.
NTodd
Dahlin - I live in Oakland. They'll close up downtown tomorrow for the party.
random question: is there anyone else with DSL whose connection drops when they visit Americablog?
OT, but I just spotted this diary at kos, and it's got some interesting info re: the possibility of a draft. Parents of draft-age children may find it especially interesting (and, of course, Eschatonians eligible for the draft themselves). I don't think any of the info is necessarily that new, but it does have some helpful links for establishing a "paper trail" to obtain conscientious objector status.
To buy reasonble wine NTodd it is $10 in Britain especially South American wine.
NTodd for $3 you can buy good basic wine.
Once more, with feeling: forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.
It was the single most important thing I took away from 4th Latin.
One day, we'll all have a good laugh about all this.
I hope.
Why did Bush insist on testifying before the 9/11 commission with Cheney at his side?
To make sure they both told the same lies, plus they were not under oath, so they couldn't get "Clintoned".
Dahlin - I live in Oakland. They'll close up downtown tomorrow for the party.
Funny, it's not a really big day in Vermont for some reason...
One day, we'll all have a good laugh about all this.
Now let us never speak of it again
--Marge Simpson
Shorter David Brooks:
Bill Frist is an idiot, but I wish he weren't.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/1...9brooks.html?
hp
Who was behind the anthrax attacks?
Funny, it's not a really big day in Vermont for some reason...
NTodd
Funny, dat. Y'know, for some reason St Patty's day isn't a big deal here.
impeachment isn't enough for these people, we need justice
http://billmon.org/archives/trial.html
From Bobo "And it wasn't a case of cynical opportunism. Frist's story is more subtle than that." I call B.S.
One day, we'll all have a good laugh about all this.
Now let us never speak of it again
--Marge Simpson
Omnes Omnibus 
1. Who is leading the impeachment charge? Will it be Conyerds or Reid?
2. Funny article - about the jury system.
http://satire.myblogsite.com/blog
My dad has now moved onto the DVD of Queen Live at the Bowl June 5th 1982 (at Milton Keynes, UK)
my mother is a huge Queen fan (its her DVD), used to listen to it all the time when she was pregnant with my brother so I hear (I was not born till 1986) my brother was born in 1977.
Also my dad used to play it in the car on the way down to southern France when we went on our annual camping trip.
From Bobo "And it wasn't a case of cynical opportunism. Frist's story is more subtle than that."
I thought they didn't do subtlety and nuance...
impeachment isn't enough for these people, we need justice
Awesome. That may well replace my "Perp Walk" screensaver at work.
I was not born till 1986
Grrr...
Who outed Valerie Plame?
Why did Bush insist on testifying before the 9/11 commission with Cheney at his side?
Who was behind the anthrax attacks?
ok... and...
who was at cheneys energy task force meeting?
who forged the niger documents?
who signed off the suadi plane leaving on 9/13?
who signed off on gitmo?
and on, and on
sigh
subtlety and nuance...
Is that anything like "peeance and freeance"?
I think we need a discussion about biofuels.
your plastic flag won't get you into heaven anymore' j.prine
Yep am only 19 doing a degree in Ancient History at the University of Wales Swansea am home for the summer going to Tunsia on the 17th July.
I'm watching a great movie right now.
My kids bought me a DVD player for mother's day and I'm watching "Zelig."
I know it was made in 1983, but I think Woody Allen was prophetic.
1986.
I love seeing young folk taking up the standard.
I adore young folks. You guys are good.
Born in 1986... omg, I graduated from undergrad. in June of '86. I feel so old.
Frank Rich:
To tabloid devotees, the reasons for Mr. Cruise's credibility gap are the perennial unsubstantiated questions about his sexuality and his very public affiliation with a church, Scientology, literally founded by a science-fiction writer. But something bigger is going on here. The subversion of reality that Welles slyly introduced into modern American media in 1938 has reached its culmination and a jaded public is at last in open revolt.
Promise?
bwahahahaha -- the dukester is in some shit:
Grand jury is studying lawmaker's house sale
Subpoenas issued in Cunningham case
By Kelly Thornton
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 18, 2005
A federal grand jury is investigating the relationship between Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham and a defense contractor, focusing particular attention on the sale of the congressman's Del Mar home to the company's owner, sources said.
The U.S. Attorney's Office issued subpoenas this week, some of which were delivered by FBI agents yesterday, said sources familiar with the probe and who asked not to be identified because grand jury proceedings are secret.
The seven-term Republican, who represents the 50th Congressional District, drew the attention of investigators regarding the November 2003 sale of his Del Mar home to Mitchell Wade, head of the contracting firm MZM Inc., the sources said.
Cunningham sold the home to Wade for $1,675,000 and used the proceeds of the sale to purchase a $2.55 million house in Rancho Santa Fe.
Wade put the Del Mar house back on the market almost immediately for roughly the same price, where it remained unsold and vacant for more than eight months. It eventually sold for $700,000 less than what Wade paid Cunningham.
Around the time Cunningham sold his house to Wade, MZM Inc. was winning large government contracts. Cunningham, 63, is a member of the House defense appropriations subcommittee and the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Has anyone heard whether the rumor is true about the Taliban taking Kandahar (the town not the province)?
I read it on Al Jazeera and would like corroborating evidence.
Omnes ...
When did you leave work and go back to law school?
My dad has now moved onto the DVD of Queen Live at the Bowl June 5th 1982 (at Milton Keynes, UK)
my mother is a huge Queen fan (its her DVD), used to listen to it all the time when she was pregnant with my brother so I hear (I was not born till 1986) my brother was born in 1977.
Also my dad used to play it in the car on the way down to southern France when we went on our annual camping trip.
Moonbootica |
Your parents have great taste!
I read it on Al Jazeera and would like corroborating evidence.
northsylvania
I've bookmarked that site.
Seems that's more honest than the MURKAN media.
You stupid liberals just don't get it! President Bush will NEVER be impeached! KLINTOON was the only elected president to be impeached, and it will always be that way since the American people will never elect another traitorous Rat!
TJ - I haven't looked at the link you posted yet, but I think the best way to deal with a draft, if one is imposed, is for a mass refusal to go. Rather than going through the bother of having each individual prove he/she has a medical reason or prove conscientious objector status, just say, "I ain't going, and you can't make me."
People not of draft age could join the protest in several ways: strikes, tax rebellion, etc.
The bottom line being, they can't force anyone to go. They don't have enough jail cells to hold everyone who doesn't want to go and just says, "I ain't going, and you can't make me - even if you do still have some empty cell space."
If and when the draft comes, this would be far and away the best way to confront it because it leaves them only the options of bad, very bad, and worst.
Bad: it's clear that the people don't respect the leadership, and they are not going to cooperate with the latest insanity.
Very bad: the leadership is forced to clearly illustrate its contempt for the people by prosecuting a few "as an example". This only digs a deeper hole for the leadership vis-a-vis the whole "the people don't respect the leadership" thing, as the people will go from not respecting to openly despising.
Worst: the leadership tries to strong-arm its citzenry into bowing to its will, by essentially kidnapping citizens and pressing them into military service. The people go from openly despising the leadership to hunting them down and executing them.
We definitely need collective action should the draft be re-instated, because as illustrated above, if we all hang together, the likelihood greatly increases that the criminals will all end up hanging together as well, albeit in an entirely different way.
Res, law school 93-96... after dementedly using my hideously expensive liberal arts education to join the Army, go to OCS, and play in Europe at tax-player expense.
..since the American people will never elect another traitorous Rat!
I guess that precludes another Nixon.
Whew!
My dad just jested we should stay up late and watch his Led Zepplin DVD Terry C lol and I think we just might but who knows!
Omnes ... What sort of work are you doing now?
I graduated from undergrad. in June of '86. I feel so old.
Omnes Omnibus |
oh christ in a souffle get a grip!
A picture is worth a thousand words.
My kids bought me a DVD player for mother's day and I'm watching "Zelig."
Zelig is a fantastic flick.
Born in 1986... omg, I graduated from undergrad. in June of '86. I feel so old.
Wow, you are old! I graduated HS in '87.
Your parents have great taste!
Indeed, Queen rocks. My Dad and I have similar taste in music.
Between gigs at the moment... I worked for a Utility Co. for a while. B4 that I was GC of a small VC company, but the Bush boom did wonders for that. 
thanks NTodd, You are so helpful.
going away, now, which I mention I hope not out of a sense of self-importance (which would be incredibly foolish), but out of politeness.
Good evening to you all.
Worst: the leadership tries to strong-arm its citzenry into bowing to its will, by essentially kidnapping citizens and pressing them into military service. The people go from openly despising the leadership to hunting them down and executing them.
I have lost all faith in the ability of the vast majority of the reality-tv-watching, Cheetos-eating public to engage in collective action, or to actively protest and fight back in the manner you describe. I'm taking my kids to Europe.
NTodd: My dad was wondering how old your dad was? hope its not too impolite a question I mean you don't have to answer just my dad is curious
My dad is 59.
Moonbootica | Email | Homepage | 06.18.05 - 6:47 pm
you have, or soon should have, mail...
cheers, cher...
.
I was not born till 1986
Grrr...
NTodd
I'm pretty sure I have houseplants older than that.
From the BBC: priest chains nun to a cross and starves her to death....
Gack. Will they want to "forgive" him, geeze....too much "The Passion" going around.
My dad is 59.
Moonbootica -6:53 pm
he and i are the same year...what's his b'day? (mine, for semiotic reasons, really is 4/20)
From a Reuters article
"In Tuz Khurmatu, 200 km (120 miles) north of Baghdad, clashes on Friday killed two U.S. soldiers and two Iraqis, the U.S. military said. The rising U.S. death toll, now at least 1,718, may help explain mounting concern in the United States. (Additional reporting by Luke Baker and Alastair Macdonald in Baghdad) "
Explains mounting concern? What about everything else including the DSM.
I also noticed that "rebels" is beginning to be used for "insurgents" within the same article.
Then there is the 50 insurgents killed. Damn this is getting spooky. Big body count claims. Welcome back Viet Nam.
thanks NTodd, You are so helpful.
That's why they call me NTodd the Helpful!
NTodd: My dad was wondering how old your dad was?
He's 59 1/2, which means he can legally start drawing off his retirement accounts (read: my inheritance) without tax penalties. Fortunately, he annoyed Mom so much during his 2 years of retirement that she made him go out and get a part time job... 
"I was not born till 1986"
So what were you doing say in 1982?
Good evening to you all.
Sarah Deere 6:52 pm
aaaiiieeee! sarah...buena suerte!!!
you never come back til way after i've toddled back to the mothership...
well, well met, m'dear!
WoodyGuthriesGuitar (aka...) you should also have an e-mail heading your way. I will see what I can do.
Jennifer, have you been listening to "alices Resturaunt"?
My dad also has a part time job as a quantity surveyor but he used to work full time for Hochtief UK (a German firm) NTodd
"alices Resturaunt"?
the Group W bench? Hmmmmm.... Father-rapers?
Gack. Will they want to "forgive" him, geeze....too much "The Passion" going around.
Elaine Supkis
Elaine - my guess is that 'isolated convent' was just a little *too* isolated. Fr. Daniel's prolly been doing anything he wants for years - he just got caught this time.
I'm pretty sure I have houseplants older than that.
Yikes. I've had one since 1978 or thereabouts.
He's 59 1/2, which means he can legally start drawing off his retirement accounts (read: my inheritance)
Ummmm....wouldn't that be your mom's inheritance - and you get what's left?
NTodd--I'm not planning to retire for the reasons stated by your mom. Monsieur is planning to retire. That means, for the love of God, I had better not
Fr. Daniel's prolly been doing anything he wants for years - he just got caught this time.
Hence, his complaint that journos were making too much of a fuss about it.
What a nut.
has the war on terrorism morphed into the war on insurgency? i guess the only way to tell if there are insurgents in a country is to invade it, if the people resist they are insurgents and deserved to be invaded.
sigh.
sandiaman - not recently. I guess I just would prefer the straightforward, in-your-face approach of just saying, "f*** you, I ain't going."
And yes, Omnes, I long ago noted the irony of the "group W" bench.
Ummmm....wouldn't that be your mom's inheritance - and you get what's left?
Ixnay...
WoodyGuthriesGuitar (aka...) I have sent the contact info for your old friend but if you want to access it now you can - Here
Ixnay...
NTodd
Had this conversation with Mom recently?
Why do the sharks in Shark Attack 2 sound like lions?
Moonbootica--I saw your cat and family phoyos from Wales. Very nice, but I don't know cat breeds. What kind of cat is that with the exceptionally supple spine? That's the sort of spine that really creeps out allurophobes.
Also what Photoshop filter did you use to make the sunshine? It looked real!
Had this conversation with Mom recently?
I'm sending her the bumpersticker which says "I'm spending my children's inheritance."
Because Shark Attack 2 has officially jumped the shark.
>Who outed Valerie Plame?
>Why did Bush insist on testifying before the 9/11 commission with Cheney at his side?
>Who was behind the anthrax attacks?
>who was at cheneys energy task force meeting?
>who forged the niger documents?
>who signed off the suadi plane leaving on 9/13?
>who signed off on gitmo?
where is the 757 that crashed into the Pentagon?
who killed Paul Wellstone?
Interesting link Elaine --
Just for the record, I have never murdered a nun in my life (which is not to say that there haven't been times I felt tempted....)
KLINTOON was the only elected president to be impeached.
freeper, your life is a joke, you're ignorant of history and prone to believing your own lies.
1) Andrew Johnson was impeached.
2) Bush was NOT elected, but appointed.
Please kill yourself before you kill someone else.
Re Draco: Heidi is a Burmese and the sunlight is real no photoshop required .
I actually live in Devizes
Wiltshire, UK but I do study in Wales.
Had this conversation with Mom recently?
Yeah, actually we have! Been doing a lot of estate and other planning over the past few years.
I'm selling my '96 Outback to a friend and buying my folks' 2001, whilst Mom is getting a 2005. She tells me I'll be inheriting a very nice vehicle when she stops driving (likely in a coupla years due to her arthritis and bad knees).
The most important thing is that Mom stay out of a home until next February when the Medicare 3-year lookback thingy won't nail us for buying the Fortress of Solitude from my parents. Still, I tell them if they don't behave (i.e., stop buying so many freaking DVDs), I'm going to put them in that bad home we saw on TV.
(Uh, that's a Simpsons reference, BTW, which has since become a family joke...)
Nixon resigned or he would have been impeached, the only President to do so.
He was a baaaaaaad boy.
Still, I tell them if they don't behave (i.e., stop buying so many freaking DVDs), I'm going to put them in that bad home we saw on TV.
I'll be good
--Abe Simpson
Because Shark Attack 2 has officially jumped the shark.
That's impossible: following the rule of sequels, any movie with a number in it must necessarily be good.
1) Andrew Johnson was impeached.
Well, to be fair, he was not elected preznit, which I think is the point the wingers are desperately attempting to make. And of course, Nixon resigned before Articles of Impeachment were to be inevitably passed, which for some reason comforts them...
I thought "freeper" was a meta-troll? am I missing something?
Very pretty city, Moonbootica.
I'll be good
--Abe Simpson
YES! Thank you.
Pitchforks-you are a dumb liberal shit. Johnson was not elected-he took office upon the death of Lincoln-who you DemoRats hated then and now.
Oh, and freeper, sex does not constitute treason.
I like Demoncrats better.
Okay, Shark Attack 3: Megalodon is coming on, but I missed the first two, so I'm afraid I'll be lost...
Destroying the military (which the Male KLINTOON and SheMale KLINTOON gleefully did) is TREASON.
Devizes is a small market town. In the 2002 census, the town had a population of 11,296.
Johnson was impeached, period. I'm not liberal, I'm reality-based.
Thanks for making up my mind about Lincoln. You know, with you in charge of my opinions, it makes hating other people that much easier, you've got the monopoly on hate.
Pitchforks-you are a dumb liberal shit. Johnson was not elected-he took office upon the death of Lincoln-who you DemoRats hated then and now.
Freeper(SamFromLivingston) - 7:15 pm
asswipe?
johnson was elected (overwhelmingly, like 65/35) over Goldwater in '64..
now go cower somewhere and snarf down your own feces...
I like Demoncrats better.
I think I will copyright DemonRats, so that when trolls get to using it, I get turkee.
now that's what I call a shark attack.
Clinton was impeached. By Repugs.
His approval rating thereon went up, IIRC.
Your point?
We know he was impeached - it was a criminally stupid thing for the Repugs to do to the country, since there was no damn reason for it. You really don't have to remind us, we will never forget it.
Never.
the town had a population of 11,296.
Very pretty town then. Looks bigger from the air.
I know this was mentioned in the thread below, but I am completely disgusted with the ponytailed asshole and his "fake but accurate" bullshit about the DSM, only because I know the freepi will run with it again.
Still, I tell them if they don't behave (i.e., stop buying so many freaking DVDs), I'm going to put them in that bad home we saw on TV.
Careful - they could still outwit you. If they buy into a CCRC the residence gets all the gelt.
A Romanian nun has died after being bound to a cross, gagged and left alone for three days in a cold room in a convent, Romanian police have said
Culture.of.Life.My.Ass.
Okay, Shark Attack 3: Megalodon is coming on, but I missed the first two, so I'm afraid I'll be lost...
I'll sum up: sharks, feeding frenzy, occassionaly lame sex stuff. #3 looks to be the best of the lot.
Destroying the military (which the Male KLINTOON and SheMale KLINTOON gleefully did) is TREASON.
Bush is destroying the military. Clinton did not.
Devizes is a small market town. In the 2002 census, the town had a population of 11,296.
That's a megalopolis! My town of Fletcher has 1200 people. But we don't have any castles.
johnson was elected (overwhelmingly, like 65/35) over Goldwater in '64.
Uh...he means ANDREW Johnson.
'Just thought of something... Bush was appointed then elected. If he's impeached, he'll displace both Johnson and Clinton in that they're the unelected and elected.
And yes, Freeper, I overlooked Johnson's status momentarily until NTodd corrected me. Unlike you, I can admit mistakes.
Destroying the military (which the Male KLINTOON and SheMale KLINTOON gleefully did) is TREASON.
Christ on a cracker, are you serious?
No one has done more to weaken the military than georgie w. bush. Have you heard that recruitment is down and fewer are applying to the academies?
Worst. President. Ever.
You must be kidding. No way does anyone actually believe what you wrote.
Pitchforks-you are a dumb liberal shit. Johnson was not...
blah blah blah clinton got a blow job bla blah blah 9/11 changed everything blah the troops knew what they were getting into blah blah blah what happens at gitmo stays at gitmo blah blah i can't serve because i am not needed blah blah blah john kerry was half-jewish blah blah blah i consulted a psychic last week who said that if you count to 1MM in bantu while eating chicken gizzards you will be able to see the point at which we will turn the corner in iraq ...
Destroying the military (which the Male KLINTOON and SheMale KLINTOON gleefully did) is TREASON.
Has anyone here mentioned the General's Operation Yellow Elephant yet?
Careful - they could still outwit you. If they buy into a CCRC the residence gets all the gelt.
Ah, but then they'll never get the antidote to the pois...um... [exits, whistling]
The military is destroyed. At least we can all agree on something. LOL.
Yes, but what if someone actually attacks us? Oh well, we've still got the nukes. Unfortunately, we've got a president with amnesia at the button.
You must be kidding. No way does anyone actually believe what you wrote.
the freeper doesn't even try, which has led me to believe it's trying (lamely) to be a meta-troll.
did Shark Attack 1 and 2 take place in Mexico as well?
the freeper doesn't even try, which has led me to believe it's trying (lamely) to be a meta-troll.
Has to be.
Re pie: Devizes is not the livelist of places for young people but it does had a certain charm.
Tho at the moment the weather is humid and clammy, had to put the kittens away in the garage so we could open the windows and try and cool down the house.
Xymphora's good today.
I think its serious. Stupoid, ignorant and badly in need of help, but serious.
Uh...he means ANDREW Johnson.
NTodd | Email | Homepage | 06.18.05 - 7:22 pm
I knew that...i was trying a Puke tactic: distraction...get 'em off topic,...thanks for yr help, pard,...
Devizes is not the livelist of places for young people but it does had a certain charm.
Looks pretty charming to me.
I think its serious. Stupoid, ignorant and badly in need of help, but serious.
The Old Man From Scene 24
The eternal question: Stupid or evil? or both?
On that note, time to fire up the grill for some cheese-filled burgers...
Woody, I had assumed it was the tequila that did that.
Probably already discussed around these parts, but Yahoo News has another DSM... excerpt -
LONDON - When Prime Minister Tony Blair's chief foreign policy adviser dined with Condoleezza Rice six months after Sept. 11, the then-U.S. national security adviser didn't want to discuss Osama bin Laden or al-Qaida. She wanted to talk about "regime change" in Iraq, setting the stage for the U.S.-led invasion more than a year later.
In one of the memos, British Foreign Office political director Peter Ricketts openly asks whether the Bush administration had a clear and compelling military reason for war.
In one of the memos, British Foreign Office political director Peter Ricketts openly asks whether the Bush administration had a clear and compelling military reason for war.
"U.S. scrambling to establish a link between Iraq and al-Qaida is so far frankly unconvincing," Ricketts says in the memo. "For Iraq, `regime change' does not stack up. It sounds like a grudge between Bush and Saddam."
Suppose no news here, since we already knew this. But it does seem like theses memos are building a case for proof of criminal activity here.
Mrs. Ibrahim, was that you in the exchange Thursday with Incog, or was that a troll? If it was you he REALLY angered you.
Sorry if I jumped on you too fast, I swore it was a troll.
On that note, time to fire up the grill for some cheese-filled burgers...
That's my plan.
Evil?
gotta problem with it...
Stupid?
QED, no?
Barf-o-rama: Ken Starr is on C-SPAN.
kei&yuri,
read it during the commercial. loved the link to Justin Raimondo's latest piece, whose writing gets better and better. He's really doing great work over there at antiwar.com.
Hey, I just came from a family lobster dinner -- apparently even we primitives can, on occasion, sit around for several hours drinking alcohol and not get into multiple altercations.
So I guess there's hope for us all.
SteveNS - On the one hand, I am cheered, both at the prospect of casual dinners involving many, many lobsters. On the other hand, I need to check. You aren't really saying that your family are lobsters are you?
I mean, if you are, then that's fine, eh, salad bowl and all that, if you do have family who are lobsters, it's not for me to say one way or t'other. Just checking really.
How's the jam, then?
That's a megalopolis! My town of Fletcher has 1200 people. But we don't have any castles.
Gotcha beat, dude. My hometown, The People's Republic of Washington Grove has 531 people.
Newt Gingrich has called for censure of Senator Durbin. What a hypocritical piece of shit.
WoodyGuthriesGuitar (aka...) I've sent you an e-mail with a link to his contact details from the faculty website.
p and t
it was me. see the Open Thread below for more of the same.
They butcher beef with an explosive bolt that punctures the cow's skullcase. That's also where most of the Mad Cow pirons are. The beef cow doesn't immediately die. It's heart continues to pump between 5 to 10 minutes circulating from the large veins in the brain throughout the muscle tisse of the entire cow. Beef is that muscle tissue which they make humburger out of.
Barf-o-rama: Ken Starr is on C-SPAN.
res ipsa loquitur
For the love of Neptune, WHY?
WGG - sorry, dude.
hamletta - we could totally kick your town's ass in Red Rover!
Appropos of Durbin appologizing, John Mortimer, who wrote the Rumpole of the Bailery books, (than which there is simply no better way to spend a day at the beach) has a new book called "Where There's A Will." It's fantastic. Here's a bit from the end of a chapter entitled Causing Offense:
In fact being caused offense not only stimulates debate but confirms belief and strengthens it. Milton, no enemy of religion, had it right when he wrote "if we have free speech truth will look after itself." And if we have a censorship which stops us offending anyone, the truth may be concealed in the surrounding blur.
I don't see why watching a shark eat a seal is a turnoff...
Barf-o-rama: Ken Starr is on C-SPAN.
res ipsa loquitur
For the love of Neptune, WHY?
He's "moderating" a discussion between two 9th Circuit judges: Kozinski and Reinhardt (not sure of the spelling on the last one).
Still, I tell them if they don't behave (i.e., stop buying so many freaking DVDs), I'm going to put them in that bad home we saw on TV.
This sounds suspciously like what I must occasionally remind Arthur - that if he fails "food bowl" we will have to Take Action and he will not be pleased.
They pirons from the brain of the cow slowly leak out over time to the muscle tissue as the brain slowly is eaten away. But after the explosive bolt, the pirons are sudenly released in something like a cascading event throughtout the cow through its circulatory system into the muscle.
I don't know how much clearer I can make it.
hecate,
wasn't that Milton in Aeropagitica arguing for the right to divorce in the new Commonwealth?
Kozinski, who helped screw California by denying a mandamus petition during the electricity crisis, actually makes Starr look liberal. Just sayin'
you've made it clear on two threads now. It's clear.
You can shut up about it now. I'm tired of hearing about it. I like beef and I'm not going to live my life worrying about every single goddamned thing that could possibly kill me because just about everything around us could in some way.
We all die, Incog. Enough, please.
reason number i forget, why i love wolcott--
"Today however I was up early to do a phone-in on Morning Sedition about the Michael Jackson case and afterwards found myself staring at Diane Sawyer in all her buttercup glory making one of her caring-sharing faces with her head tipped to the side in a show of empathy. Having not watched her in years (having had my fill of her in primetime), I had forgotten what a gold-plated sellout she is. A true thoroughbred phony, descended from Mount Olympus to mop up the tears of mortals and heal our pain with her oozing compassion. When her voice adopts that tell-me-where-it-hurts tone, it's enough to curdle the very soul."
Ah, but then they'll never get the antidote to the pois...um... [exits, whistling]
NTodd
Mrs. I,
I believe that is from Aeriopogetica, although the way I learned the line was "Whoever know truth put to second best when scattered to the four winds?" Which is a bit more poetic.
They pirons from the brain of the cow slowly leak out over time to the muscle tissue as the brain slowly is eaten away. But after the explosive bolt--
Man, why do you know these things???
Don't answer that!!!
Fuck Hell-o-scan!!!
The AP is doing a blitz on the British memos and minutes today - 4 stories and links to all the documents. Lead story is "Memos Show British Concern Over Iraq Plans".
dailykos dairy by STOP george
Listed at yahoo as top emailed story too.
Those who "say" they only eat organic beef have to know something, as well. They butcher that 'organic beef' on the same equipment they butcher cows from the main American and Canadian herd. There is no way to sterilize that equipment for the pirons from the previous cow's body fluids. They can't even sterilize surgeons instruments against those pirons.
Areopagitica is a plea for the liberty of unlicensed printing. I believe though that Milton did also write pamphlets regarding divorce.
Ah, but then they'll never get the antidote to the pois...um... [exits, whistling]
NTodd
What the post was s'posed to say:
NTodd - does your Mom have an email addy? I'd like to drop her a line and say hello.
I'm a friendly kinda girl.
Newt Gingrich is a disgraced (and disgraceful) former member of Congress who had to resign in - you guessed it - disgrace.
Any reference to his pointing out of specks in the eyes of his brethren should make clear his status as a disgraced and disgraceful former member of Congress. One whose contempt for the citizens of his former district forced them to spend millions on a special election shortly after his last re-election, to boot. If Newtie couldn't be captain of the team, he was gonna take his ball and go home - and never mind that he had just spent 6 months working on convincing the people of his district to return him to his seat.
Areopagitica is a plea for the liberty of unlicensed printing. I believe though that Milton did also write pamphlets regarding divorce.
you're right oo, it's been so long since I read Milton's pamphlets. thanks for the reminder.
You aren't really saying that your family are lobsters are you?
Hi GWPDA -- no, our lineage is, as near as we can tell, too polluted with alcoholics and reprobates to leave room for any lobsters.
More's the pity, because I often wish I'd been born with crushing claws and an exoskeleton.
And the dinner was jam-free! *sob* In fact, I ate no dessert at all, since I'm trying to get back into more of a healthy-eating cycle. I've been more indulgent than usual the last 6 weeks, and it's showing in a diminished energy level.
How's things your own self?
"if we have free speech truth will look after itself." And if we have a censorship which stops us offending anyone, the truth may be concealed in the surrounding blur.
Hecate
Hecate - you live in DC. Would you mind stenciling that somewhere on the Dem side of the Capitol?
Thanks.
Mrs. I. np. I had to pull out an old Norton Anthology to make sure.
Christ, there are two other law schools in Los Angeles, where this forum is being held. Why couldn't they get the deans of UCLA or USC law to moderate this discussion? Instead they put this national disgrace -- Ken Starr -- on CSPAN. Send him back to Malibu.
flory,
I would, but then the Dems would apologize for it.....
Man, why do you know these things???
Don't answer that!!!
dave™®©
Because as long as people continue to ignore this problem, and it could eventually mean genocide for us that's how serious it is, then the Beef Industry will continue to ignore it. Every beef cow slaughtered in this country should be tested before its beef gets into the food supply. The test is only $15 per cow but the Beef Industry fights it. They even fight small beef farmers from individually testing their beef. Hey, maybe I'd like to go back to eating beef again.
So. Did I miss anything?
Omnes Omnibus
I should be embarresed, as I wrote on Aeropaigitica as an undergrad many moons ago. Compared it to some of the pamphlets of the Levellers. I'll put some blush on my red face now.
Suppose no news here, since we already knew this. But it does seem like theses memos are building a case for proof of criminal activity here.
STLMartin
These memos prove that six months after 9/11 bushco starting cooking the intel to go to war in iraq.
They wanted regime change, but they were telling us that it was all about WMD.
They are very damaging to Bush and Blair,imo.
The memos contain very classified info - stuff they never wanted the public to see. They must be absolutely delighted that they are being ignored by the MSM.
that if he fails "food bowl"
Ummmm....what's food bowl?
jdw - essentially, no.
Mrs. I.
Blame it on Eli. It's been working for me all day.
Blame it on Eli. It's been working for me all day.
*tent fingers and cackle maniacally*
jdw - So. Did I miss anything?
Essentially, no.
I would, but then the Dems would apologize for it.....
Hecate
Oh goddess...that's so frickin' sad, and so frickin' true.
How about this - could you kidnap a few elected Dems and perform some guerrilla spinal surgery?
Thanks.
Damn haloscan - I haven't double-posted in a long damn time and that was one of those tricksy haloscan things. My comment didn't show up the first time I posted it.
New Wolcotty goodness just came over the RSS transom:
I look at Chris Wallace now and, apart from wishing I had never written his name except in execration, wonder how Mike Wallace feels about having produced such a blot of a son to carry on the family name in broadcasting. He must wonder where he went wrong, even perhaps in the dark night of the soul wish he had worn a rubber rather than spawn this disgrace to a once-proud profession.
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that shark on Attack 3 certainly needs to see a dentist, what with all the teeth he keeps leaving here there and everywhere.
obviously he is not flossing between meals.
"jdw - essentially, no.
Tena | Email | Homepage | 06.18.05 - 7:49 pm | "
You said it twice, Tena. I'm suspicious.
Incog is absolutely right about the stinking third-world meat racket in this country. They totally fucked this one guy sideways for unauthorized testing. It's the testing not what's found that they're afraid of. They found a cow that "failed" a test (for some reason this was almost only reported in this little site called Unknown News, but it will be looked back on as the first American Mad Cow that made it out of the informational closet) so they stopped the testing, but continued the processing at that site. The whole FDA is totally owned by the industry, something like the way the pentagon exists to ferry welfare to its masters in the arms trade.
I haven't double-posted in a long damn time and that was one of those tricksy haloscan things.
Tena - its blame it on Eli day, all day.
NTodd - does your Mom have an email addy? I'd like to drop her a line and say hello.
Um, she...er, likes to keep anonymous on the internets, but if you want to send her your message, I'd be more than happy to, you know, forward it.
So. Did I miss anything?
Nah, I haven't gone off on a drunken tirade yet. I have been subtlely lectured on not taunting Incog, but I'm ignoring that shit.
that shark on Attack 3 certainly needs to see a dentist, what with all the teeth he keeps leaving here there and everywhere.
obviously he is not flossing between meals.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
He's been eating too much tainted beef.
The whole FDA is totally owned by the industry, something like the way the pentagon exists to ferry welfare to its masters in the arms trade.
When *did* government of the people, by the people, and for the people perish from the Earth, I wonder? Assuming it ever existed, of course.
Assuming it ever existed, of course.
Eli
Crazy assumption, that.
Off to buy groceries, back later.
Read what Bob Livingston (another stellar thug) said after Newt announced he wasn't running for a third term:
REP. BOB LIVINGSTON: The Republican Party has those ideas and always has, but our ideas have gotten lost. Perhaps our message has gotten lost in the haze of high rhetoric and miscast priorities, lost on a management style where process is subordinated to polls, and self-initiated crises -
Then Steve Largent (who's he?):
REP. STEVE LARGENT: We've had a leadership vacuum for four years in Washington, D.C., that has basically been blown about by the winds of public opinion polls and focus groups, as opposed to relying upon a standard and principles, and adhering to those standards and principles that define the Republican Party. One of the mandates for the leadership and for the 106th Congress is that we put together an agenda about what we're going to do for the American people that we are going to stress less government and lower taxes, strong defense, and the respect of life. That is a Republican - a simple Republican message. It works because Ronald Reagan kept to the message, and he was a believable messenger, and I think if we return to that play book and we learn to play offense, as opposed to treading water and marching in place and hoping that the President self-destructs, that if we play offense with a Republican message, that we will be successful.
He's been eating too much tainted beef.
rorschach"
Will the prawns eat his brain now?
When *did* government of the people, by the people, and for the people perish from the Earth, I wonder?
I think we need to amend that to be government of the tribbles, by the tribbles, for the tribbles.
Then we could just eat and reproduce!
Eli,
Corporations are legal persons... So, in some sense, it still exists
that shark on Attack 3 certainly needs to see a dentist, what with all the teeth he keeps leaving here there and everywhere.
IIRC, they have rows of teeth that move up to replace ones they've lost. Not sure if the Megalodons had the same capability, given they predate our Great White by 8 gazillion years, but I'm sure we'll learn that eventually in this highly stimulating, educational movie.
Nite all freethinkers!
Incog - yes, mad cow is frightening and creepy.
But I'm with Tena. I love a good steak.
Steak, by the way, is one of the best choices if you want to lessen your risk of encounters with prions and e.coli. Particularly steak butchered in-store. Ground beef, unless ground in-store, is going to be a bunch of cows ground up together. If one of them had mad cow or e.coli on the carcass, it's going to be mixed into the entire batch.
As for the stun technique used in slaughterhouses, if your concern is with that, another way to lessen your risk of contact with rogue prions is to eat only halal beef. Method of slaughter for halal meat of any type is by slitting the animal's throat.
I loves my steaks, but my sister is following your lead, Incog - she's not eating beef and doesn't allow her kids to eat it either. I guess it's just not as big a concern for me. I look at it the same way as I look at sleeping with the windows open when the weather's nice - I refuse to stop doing it just because something bad might happen. I think if I start giving in to that on every little thing, I might as well be dead. But of course respect your right to pick and choose the risks you will take with your own life & health, and even recognize the wisdom in some choices you make that I don't make. You're dead on correct about the bullshit whereby big beef is keeping the little guys from testing their own product.
if only durbin had said,
"as usual, the republicans are sliming people that disagree with them, using innuendo and distortion to avoid confronting the consequences of the illegal and immoral acts at Guantanomo and Abu Ghraib. But this time, were not going to stand for it. every single word i said was true, and the real traitors to america, the republicans, should either stand up for american values or go somewhere like Uzbekistan where they can watch people boiled alive. but they wont, because they are gutless hypocrites--loudly "supporting the troops" as long as it means they wont have to put their own lives, or the lives of their children, at risk."
why is this so difficult? just stop letting them frame the issues in the debate.
He's been eating too much tainted beef.
rorschach"
Will the prawns eat his brain now?
jdw
Ah, the cycle of life. At once so beautiful, and so disgusting.
Incog, I am one of the embattled minority of Incog-tolerant Atriots who have risked being excoriated by those who feel differently-- the way "Lurker" took a backhanded shot at our Tena in the thread below.
Why, just last month-- or maybe the month before-- some supposedly high-minded and enlightened gay guy turned up here to denounce your inveterate hatemongering, and the chap tore me a new one for defending you as "authentic". The spot still hurts in humid weather.
Still, I persist in the folly of prefering that you not be thrown overboard, much less decapitated and your headless body left to dangle from the "check to have links open new windows" box as a warning to other contentious and unreasonable folk.
All that said, I tell you this: rail against benighted, oppressive heteros all you like, and denounce the devilish genocidal Ay-rabs as it pleases you.
But if you persist in your educational efforts to put me off beef, knowing now that this very afternoon, I purchased a twelve-dollar chunk of filet mignon for my dining pleasure this eve, I shall seriously consider throwing you off altogether.
I often italicize, but I seldom bold, Incog. So you know I mean business.
Steve Largent (who's he?)
My favorite record-holding wide receiver of the 1980s on the Seahawks!
Um, she...er, likes to keep anonymous on the internets, but if you want to send her your message, I'd be more than happy to, you know, forward it.
Thoughtful of you.
I wonder how many Pritsky's there are in Fletcher VT?
Wolcott about Diane Sawyer. When her voice adopts that tell-me-where-it-hurts tone, it's enough to curdle the very soul.
BWA HA HA HA HA!
IIRC, they have rows of teeth that move up to replace ones they've lost.
Yep. I've always envied them that ability. Sharks don't have to save up for dentures...
Re beef: What Jennifer and Tena said. And my ground sirloin tonight is organic and hormone free and ground in the store where I bought it...
I wonder how many Pritsky's there are in Fletcher VT?
Hee hee.
Corporations are legal persons... So, in some sense, it still exists
Hmm... GE is American-born and over 35 years old, correct?
But if you persist in your educational efforts to put me off beef, knowing now that this very afternoon, I purchased a twelve-dollar chunk of filet mignon for my dining pleasure this eve, I shall seriously consider throwing you off altogether.
ha ha Ahight, eat it to your heart's content. But I don't think anyone should feed it to their children. Kids should be able to expect nutritious and safe food placed before them.
Corporations are legal persons... So, in some sense, it still exists
Hmm... GE is American-born and over 35 years old, correct?
Eli
GE in '08.
Dave, if you 'really' want to know more about CJD, and other assorted prion stuff, check out Richard Rhode's Deadly Feasts. There was also a really good article a few years back in the NYT magazine. My mom died of CJD and I try to keep up.
Incog, on the surgical instruments-one of my co-workers at the hospital where I work assures me that the sterilization procedures now in place will kill any prions that exist-but I've got my doubts.
Tena, go ahead and eat your beef. CJD is really hard to get-even in Britian, where there was really a quality control problem, the number of CJDv cases is much lower than the worst case scenarios. The gestation period is usually between 10-25 years, and they're thinking they're just not going to much more, if any from the 80's problems. I certainly hope so!
Pretzelattack:
Word.
Reads very much like the email I sent Durbins office.
Think Dad would give us a Sharkblogging thread?
"Hmm... GE is American-born and over 35 years old, correct?"
heh, eli, yeah just eliminate the middleman and elect a corporation president.
Little Brøther - can I come over for dinner? I'll bring some vino...
Little Brøther,
Haha. Great rant, hope you enjoy your dinner.
I finished mine about 30 minutes ago and I'm feeling fine.
Drinkin' beer in the
hot sun
I fought the fish but the fish won
I fought the fish but the fish won
I needed fish ’cause I had none
I fought the fish and the fish won
I fought the fish and the fish won
I left the river and it feels so bad
Comin' home with none
Wasn't the best trip that I ever had
I fought the fish and the fish won
I fought the fish and the fish won
In keeping with the spirit of the thread, I blame Eli.
Tena and Otouto are wasting time with this crap about giving up beef just because it's all poisonous. We're aware of the poison but, in light of American wilingness to do anything right, don't care (except that yuri is a vegetarian anyway). Nothing can apparently be doine about it. Similarly, if you know anything about population and plagues you know we're overdue for a big one, but again, nothing really can be done about this, so what's to panic over?
Incog's making a valid point. It's off-topic and he insists on being gruesome but give the ficker a break the day he didn't wake up insane.
Site-whoring for a friend:
http://www.jesuswasgay.net/
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Think Dad would give us a Sharkblogging thread?
I anticipate a new thread in, oh, about 5 minutes...
You could all have a "nice steak" if you just insisted the Beef Industry tests each cow. This shit is preventable. It's not like developing arthritis in old age. Most Alzeheimer's patients really have the Mad Cow but they wont autopsy them, in part, coroners don't want to use their instuments on them during the procedure.
Well, m'bats. I need to go shower and get dressed nicely before my wife gets home, so we can got to the local Latin Fest. Hopefully, there will be yummy food and yummier beer.
Evening, rational people.
I wonder how many Pritsky's there are in Fletcher VT?
Only one, actually, since Stef didn't take my name and my folks live in...another Vermont town. YOU'LL NEVER FIND THEM!!!
Corporations are legal persons... So, in some sense, it still exists
Hmm... GE is American-born and over 35 years old, correct?
Eli
GE in '08.
rorschach
And Halliburton for VP!!!
Oh, wait.....
Incog, on the surgical instruments-one of my co-workers at the hospital where I work assures me that the sterilization procedures now in place will kill any prions that exist-but I've got my doubts.
umm, this is highly unlikely. Perhaps he means that prion-sized objects have successffully been destroyed in especially intense purification.
Only one, actually, since Stef didn't take my name and my folks live in...another Vermont town. YOU'LL NEVER FIND THEM!!!
NTodd
C'mon, how many towns can there even be in Vermont?
/Texan
Do you think that I could get mad cow disease from eating people who have eaten mad cows?
Think Dad would give us a Sharkblogging thread?
I hope so. This Megalodon show is the Best Shark Movie Ever.
Buckeye - from what I understood, prions cannot be destroyed. They aren't living organisms but rather rogue proteins. Maybe autoclaves burn them up or something, but my understanding was that they couldn't be destroyed. This would not preclude them from being removed from surgical instruments in some way, however.
Sorry about your mom.
Do you think that I could get mad cow disease from eating people who have eaten mad cows?
Echidne of the snakes
I don't think the disease can jump from people to snakes. Or to goddesses for that matter.
Surgeons heat their instruments up to sterilize them. But even incineration to ash doesn't destroy the pirons. The only thing shown to destroy the pirons is a severe alkali compound like Draino.
Just googled Steve Largent. Other then playing football, it looks like he warn't that popular as a politician.
He ran for governor of OK and lost, and someone had a delightful website about him called stevelargentsucks. Hmmmm. Google says:
Steve Largent should not be Governor -- Stop Right Wing Extremism
Now he's President and CEO of the CTIA Wireless Internet Caucus.
"Do you think that I could get mad cow disease from eating people who have eaten mad cows?"
--Echidne of the snakes
Most certainly.
Be careful out there. It's a cruel world.
Corporations are legal persons... So, in some sense, it still exists
Omnes ... As I remember, that bit was just some dicta in an early 19th-century case related to railroads. I don't know that the issue -- whether corps are "persons" within the meaning of the 14th -- has ever been litigated.
Maybe we can find a proper case in which to raise the issue? Because that is bit 'o dicta that has fucked things up but good.
I hope so. This Megalodon show is the Best Shark Movie Ever.
NTodd
Agreed. Shark takes down parasailer! Take that, Jaws!
The only thing shown not to carry it are chickens, probably because their life cycles are so short and they lop their heads off during the slaughtering process. Chickens just carry the bird flu.
C'mon, how many towns can there even be in Vermont?
Heehee!
(For those not in the know, there are 251.)
Omnes ... As I remember, that bit was just some dicta in an early 19th-century case related to railroads. I don't know that the issue -- whether corps are "persons" within the meaning of the 14th -- has ever been litigated.
Maybe we can find a proper case in which to raise the issue? Because that is bit 'o dicta that has fucked things up but good.
Maybe it was a typo, and they meant "prions"...
YOU'LL NEVER FIND THEM!!!
NTodd
Ummmm.....there're only 5 of youse guys in the whole state.
I hope so. This Megalodon show is the Best Shark Movie Ever.
Only for the next hour.
so we can got to the local Latin Fest. Hopefully, there will be yummy food and yummier beer.
Yummiest.
Do you think that I could get mad cow disease from eating people who have eaten mad cows?
Echidne of the snakes
Well, maybe. But it can take up to 85 years. What's the life expectancy of snake goddesses?
Just googled Steve Largent. Other then playing football, it looks like he warn't that popular as a politician.
Yeah, I was annoyed to find out how conservative he was. Still, great receiver and I can't change the fact that I worshipped him (and Ozzie Newsome) when I was a kid.
"Omnes ... As I remember, that bit was just some dicta in an early 19th-century case related to railroads. I don't know that the issue -- whether corps are "persons" within the meaning of the 14th -- has ever been litigated."
somebody named thom hartmann has written that the decision didnt rule corporations were legal persons, that it was inserted in the headnotes to the case by a clerk bribed by the railroads. im not sure if thats true, but that has always struck me as a very strange doctrine.
pie - how goes the house-selling endeavor?
Ummmm.....there're only 5 of youse guys in the whole state.
Most of them are my other personalities.
...it was inserted in the headnotes to the case by a clerk bribed by the railroads. im not sure if thats true, but that has always struck me as a very strange doctrine.
pretzel ... It definitely wasn't the issue in the case. It was just some throwaway line that all the corps. seized on.
Most of them are my other personalities.
Oh, gawd. Please tell me you aren't T.S.
I think I'm safe from the mad cow disease, then. If it takes 85 years. By then I can take some other form, anyway.
But a mad broccoli disease would be disastrous.
Oh, gawd. Please tell me you aren't T.S.
Why, yes! N. Todd. Sybil.
Most of them are my other personalities.
NTodd
Cheez-o-Pete - ya can't even come up with different names?
Lazy doesn't cover it.....
At tbrnews.org their is a report about how iraqi death toll count is actually around 9,000-- that the soldiers that die after being transfered out of the country are not being reported. Shouldn't this be causing a BIG stir?
But a mad broccoli disease would be disastrous.
Echidne of the snakes
Snakes eat broccoli?
Who knew?
Jennifer,
Thanks for the info on the halal meat, I knew there was another way but couldn't think of it.
We don't-and never will-know how Mom got it. Surgery? Food? Just because? I'm less worried about the beef than I am about the surgical instruments.
Incog, while there are probably many Alzheimer's patients most likely misdiagnosed-either they had CJD or another prion or neurological disorder-CJD just isn't that common. CJD and Alzheimer behavior patterns may be able to help confirm or help a rediagnosis if an autopsy isn't feasible or desirable. The one thing about Mom, once the CJD 'activated', she went fast, and she went painlessly. Alzheimers, and other neurological disease-even CJDv, not so lucky.
there
Way to go Democrats!
From the New York Times
"The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration "neocons" so "the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world." He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
"Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation," McGovern said. 'The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic."
Rep. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.), who prompted the question by wondering whether the true war motive was Iraq's threat to Israel, thanked McGovern for his "candid answer."
At Democratic headquarters, where an overflow crowd watched the hearing on television, activists handed out documents repeating two accusations -- that an Israeli company had warning of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that there was an "insider trading scam" on 9/11 -- that previously has been used to suggest Israel was behind the attacks."
And Dick Durbin calls our troops Nazis!?!?!? All he has to do is look at his own party to see the Anti-Semites.
clean (shark free) sheets, bye the bye.
"my lawyers will have a field day with you, they are the real sharks."
now that's dialogue.
Cheez-o-Pete - ya can't even come up with different names?
I have a very busy schedule.
that an Israeli company had warning of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and that there was an "insider trading scam" on 9/11 -- that previously has been used to suggest Israel was behind the attacks."
No one believes that.
The Bush administration was behind 9/11.
Central Scrutinizer: not even a gar?
btw, I got your book recommend. You might like Fly Fishing for Sharks. It ain't really about either one, but a good fishing read.
Speaking through my hat here, isn't corporate personhood the theory behind being able to charge a corporation with a crime? I was over simplifying earlier for the "humor" value.
Speaking through my hat here, isn't corporate personhood the theory behind being able to charge a corporation with a crime?
Omnes ... don't you charge the directors and officers with crimes?
The "personhood" just gives the corporate entity due process rights, which is, of course, bullshit.
You aren't really saying that your family are lobsters are you?
Hi GWPDA -- no, our lineage is, as near as we can tell, too polluted with alcoholics and reprobates to leave room for any lobsters.
More's the pity, because I often wish I'd been born with crushing claws and an exoskeleton.
And the dinner was jam-free! *sob* In fact, I ate no dessert at all, since I'm trying to get back into more of a healthy-eating cycle. I've been more indulgent than usual the last 6 weeks, and it's showing in a diminished energy level.
How's things your own self?
SteveNS - And now you've gone to market. I'm glad to know that your family tree hasn't branched out quite that far - although it would be handy, in um, a, um, pinch, should times be tight... And you do have that receipt for the champagne dipping sauce? For lobsters?
But whatever could you mean, you've given up jam? Jam is filled with healthy energy, the goodness of fruit warming in the strengthening sun.... It's -doughnuts- that sap our energies. Jam is good. Eat more jam. Jam on lobster is particularly nice.
I'm just beavering away down here, trying to uphold the great tradition of my divided loyalties. Shall I go eat a large portion of Alberta beef? Or fry some okra? Hard to choose, hard to know.
Lobsters would be easier.
Or fry some okra?
Now why would any sentient being want to do that?
Or fry some okra?
Now why would any sentient being want to do that?
flory - Mum was from Tulsa. She liked the stuff.... Pop was from Calgary. He liked beef.
I wrote you a long diatribe about what Food Bowl is, but it's disappeared. Essentially, it's a little test for doggies in animal shelters, to see if they are mild enough to be adopted. They give them a bowl of nummies and then poke at them to see what the reaction is. Any sane doggie's reaction is to say, in Dog, get that thing out of my bowl! Unfortunately, that's not what they're looking for and so, the doggie is often, on the strength of this, sent to be euthanised as being possibly harmful. Arthur would have failed food bowl at the first pass. Fortunately, the kind people at the local no-kill shelter fished him from the Food Bowl Police and kept him safe til I found him. Now, when he gets really snarly over, oh my trying to add a small piece of steak to a brimming bowl, I caution him. "You are about to Fail Food Bowl, Arthur." He doesn't pay any attention of course.
NTodd:
This was a joke, right?
NTodd: My dad was wondering how old your dad was?
He's 59 1/2, which means he can legally start drawing off his retirement accounts (read: my inheritance) without tax penalties. Fortunately, he annoyed Mom so much during his 2 years of retirement that she made him go out and get a part time job...
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Despite all evidence to the contrary, our little troll still supports Preznit Jerkoff and his party of mean-spirited pricks.
The Bush administration was behind 9/11.
I'm convinced of that.
You stupid liberals just don't get it! President Bush will NEVER be impeached! KLINTOON was the only elected president to be impeached, and it will always be that way since the American people will never elect another traitorous Rat!
Freeper(SamFromLivingston)
How does getting a blow job make one a traitor?
Or are you one of those losers who envy Clinton because he's probably turned down more sex than you will ever get.
I hope you're a parody troll because I feel sorry for you if you aren't!
Oh, and asshole:
The FIRST President Johnson was also impeached.
(I love it when stupid, UNEDUCATED people shoot off their mouths!)
This is a bit late, but it's PRION.
http://www.google.com/search?
biw...G=Google+Search
" There is no way to sterilize that equipment for the pirons from the previous cow's body fluids. They can't even sterilize surgeons instruments against those pirons."
Your home page its great
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