I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
The latest in the Downing Street hit parade.
Secondth!
Second on a Saturday nite. Sigh.
"Documents, documents, documents - is that all you have?"
New Pretzeldent and Viceroy seals.
Oh damn. Jdw looks to be gone. Pity. He told me I had to put out.
Did we miss Hammerhead?
Memo! A memo! My kingdom for a memo! noooo...nooo pretzels and keep that horse away from me....aaaaargh.
VP seal...hope haloscan works this time...
NY Mary--go 2 threads down and you'll have the whole thing 
Oh damn. Jdw looks to be gone. Pity. He told me I had to put out.
Sallyh
Sallyh!! The children are still up.
BTW, sallyh - is there any of that sour cream chocolate cake left?
Third time! Cheney's new seal...!
I've never played nice, and I'm not about to start.
Who wants to fight?
Flory--indeed there is! 2 slices for you!
Seems like it is.
I've been having problems posting all night...anyone else?
truth, truth, truth is that all you have?
Central--if you don't want to play nice, we could at least have sex instead of fighting. your choice.
Well, got to go to bed...yawn.
Sleep batty, don't let the fireflies lightning bug you!
Keep away from the trolls unless you have a bic lighter.
Night!
Wow! I'm almost EARLY!
OK, Sallyh,
I'd prefer sex.
It was a bluff anyways.
WooHoo!! Time for those of us on the left coast who *don't* have satellite to get our hammerhead fix.
Will be reading the liveblog as I watch.
Flory--NTodd and Eli appear to have gone beddybyes. So what are these children of which you speak?
Yumm....chocolate cake and sharks - what could be better?
CS and sallyh - you two get a room....(and I'm telling Monsieur).
Central--perhaps we SHOULD consider the children.
The government is fucked.That we can see,yet it is not the biggest probelm we have.
What I see as the biggest is the gop channel.How do we convert thoes zombies that hting that channel is telling the truth.
IMO, we solve this problem,we will be at the root of our struggle for real reform.
So what are these children of which you speak?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Where's Mademoiselle?
Norman Rockwell's Murder in Mississippi
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Flory--Mademoiselle is at a birthday party. Monsieur knocked back a Vicodin for his back and is almost conked out with a cat in his lap in the Papa Bear chair.
perhaps we SHOULD consider the children.
Children?
I don't have any children.
Mademoiselle is at a birthday party. Monsieur knocked back a Vicodin for his back and is almost conked out with a cat in his lap in the Papa Bear chair.
So....
It's cool if I come over?
Wonder what Chuck Hagel will have to say if it turns out that the American death toll in Iraq is may be more like 9,000 than 1,700, according to Jim Lampley's article over at Huffington Post.
Central--so long as you don't mind the cats watching...
i just told Monsieur I was having a one night stand tonight. His reaction was, whatever makes you happy, dear, just would you bring me some cake?
Ain't no way.
Just like in Russia!
National Guard pay on hold.
Uh, huh - the family's away, the fishwife will play.
NTodd and Eli appear to have gone beddybyes.
Ahem.
Was just looking for a new laptop and helping Codename V. diagnose Batman's personality disorders.
Thers's Father's Day gift: the DVD of Spinal Tap.
I love this guy. Have I mentioned that?
I really think that whole thing about the DoD undercounting casualties is an urban legend. People that are wounded by die in Landstuhl are listed on the official lists. The only ones not listed are Delta.
His reaction was, whatever makes you happy, dear, just would you bring me some cake?
What kind of cake?
I'm kinda hungry myself.
His reaction was, whatever makes you happy, dear, just would you bring me some cake?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Men are soooo predictable.
Eli--want some chocolate cake?
Eli--want some chocolate cake?
You have to ask?
Really, you can just put this stuff in front of me, and I guarantee I'll eat it...
Thanks, Dad.
Please share your own.
Central--chocolate. it's actually not all that sweet, but it's rich and has a lot of flavor. This one I just dust with some confectioners' sugar.
Sallyh,
Did Monsieur Poissoniere save a Vicodin for me?
I think it would be too hard to cover-up something like undercounting the dead. Color me skeptical on this one. Though I have no doubt they'd try it if they could get away with it.
Wonder what Chuck Hagel will have to say if it turns out that the American death toll in Iraq is may be more like 9,000 than 1,700, according to Jim Lampley's article over at Huffington Post.
He'd probably say that sounds like some bullshit some guy said on the Internet, because it's some bullshit some guy said on the Internet.
NYMary--Monsieur is very greedy with his Vicodins. Notice he was willing to loan me out to Central, but Vicodins are something else.
Yo, Atriosities and the Mighty Duncan:
Over at TBRNEWS.org there is a plausible post suggesting that Iraq War casualty stats are badly fudged, i.e. the actual numbers of American soldiers killed is now more like 7,000 than 1,800. I have no clue about this. Anybody know the rules at DOD for counting killed in action? Does the figure include the soldiers who died in transport, in Germany or at Walter Reid some weeks or months later as a direct result of wounds sustained? I don't know but think that the question is worth raising.
I'll trade three ambien for one copy of the Spinal Tap DVD.
sallyh - it would appear at least one of the children is still around - so behave!
BTW, the original "Cat People" is just starting on TCM.
This movie scared the hell out of my mother when she saw it as a kid (in its original release) - she never forgot it.
mmm..... caaaake....
So what's the deal with vicodin? I'm an old school placidyl guy myself.
Thank you, Khaki Snat, for bringing this to our attention. We had no idea.
Khaki Snat--I believe the figure given is KIA only.
NYMary, the baby blogging on your blog is adorable.
"pesis"
Khaki Snat--I'm fairly certain that those who die in transport are counted, but if they die in hospital, they are not.
BushCo would lie about anything, but in this case I'm not so sure about the 9,000 dead. I think we've all seen the websites where the post the names and faces of the war dead. Wouldn't we be hearing from some 7000 plus angry families wondering why their son or daughter isn't listed?
Anybody know the rules at DOD for counting killed in action?
If you are killed in action, you are listed as killed in action. The armed forces take this very seriously. Everyone in the Army and Marines from buck privates up to the highest brass would be in full scale mutiny if the civilians at the DoD tried to artificially supress the list of soldiers killed in action.
Wouldn't we be hearing from some 7000 plus angry families wondering why their son or daughter isn't listed?
Sometimes I wonder....
Cake for everyone. Enjoy.
Vicodins--my husband's rheumatologist prescribes him a few (about 15) every 3-4 months, to keep around for when the pain gets too intense (Monsieur has RA). Mostly he treats it with anti-inflammatories (Relafen and ibuprofen) and occasional muscle relaxers.
I didn't have a music gig tonight, instead I went with a bunch of dykes for one of their birthday to Capt Billy's Crab House, then we all came back to my house and let the goats out and watched their antics and then told stories and laughed and drank wine and sang old pop songs at the piano.
Like 1700 plus isn't enough.
Where did this clown get his "secret DoD document"? Because I have Adobe Acrobat Distiller and some official looking fonts and clip art, too.
This sounds some necrophiliac getting his jollies on the thought of tons of dead people.
Nathan, Thanks!
Khaki, I've heard numerous extra-KIA analyses of war dead: wounds, suicide, risk-taking. 4 times the number we have? I have no idea. But I guess it's possible.
Mademoiselle got Monsieur a gift certificate for a full body massage for Dad's Day. I think that's a pretty decent gift. Although he'd definitely appreciate the Spinal Tap DVD.
What's with the Uncounted Dead meme thrashing about the internets?
The dead en route or in hospitals are reported and "counted", check the reports yourself, anybody - 1720. How about Huffington/Lampley/Harrar cite one or two examples of a death they consider not counted properly? OK, one?
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The CNN list includes people who died at Walter Reed of injuries sustained in Iraq. This 9000 casualties thing is a hoax.
Old Hat
DSM
You need to scroll down to the bottom of the page. The eight documents are there. Click them on one by one
they are copies - retyped according to the British.
Read more about professional bullshit peddler "Walter Storch," the publisher of "TBR News" and the source of the "9,000 KIA in Iraq" rumor.
Like 1700 plus isn't enough.
Exactly. Not to mention (and they usually aren't) the 10s of thousands of Iraqi civillians killed both in the initial invasion and the on-going de facto civil war that followed.
...then we all came back to my house and let the goats out and watched their antics and then told stories and laughed and drank wine and sang old pop songs at the piano.
I'd have paid good money to have been there! You have better friends than I do.
TKK,
Thanks, pal. I see now.
Don't forget the wounded.
"Batman Begins" fucking ROCKS!
ahem.
When I mentioned this the other day,
no one believed it could be true....
I'm fairly certain that those who die in transport are counted, but if they die in hospital, they are not.
Sallyh
I'm absolutely certain that they are.
No. 619-05
IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 17, 2005
DoD Identifies Army Casualty
The Department of Defense announced today the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.
Staff Sgt. Christopher N. Piper, 43, of Marblehead, Mass., died on June 16 at the Brooke Army Medical Center, Fort Sam Houston, Texas, from injuries sustained on June 3 when an improvised explosive device detonated near his military vehicle in Orgun-E, Afghanistan. He was assigned the 1st Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group, Fort Bragg, N.C.
For further information related to this release, contact Army Public Affairs at (703) 692-2000.
http://www.defenselink.mil/relea...50617-
3712.html
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/
http://icasualties.org/oif/
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Quentin--thanks for clearing that up. Appreciate the information.
watertiger
Hope so, I am catching it at an 11am showing.
BTW, Rumsfeld lied about using a napalm-type of firebomb in Iraq.
One more outrage that should send these people to the dock in the Hague.
Hope so, I am catching it at an 11am showing.
don't sit too close. you want to catch all of the action.
and there's something for the ladies who aren't into these kinds of movies: Christian Bale.
Hot DAMN!
Sorry, SallyH.
I'm just watching out for the 'Oh, it's only 1700' bank shot.
And it's all way too much and should stop tonight!
cory,
we in the blogosphere may get a picture of whether this most cruel of deceptions has really taken place. You have to hope not. But in light of everything we've learned, do you think this is beyond them?
Seems bizarre to me, but then again, we are dealing with the most secretitive, lying admin in our history. Nothing, but nothing is beyond paranoid enough for this gang.
Christian Bale.
Some sort of fundie horse fodder thing?
watertiger
Have you ever seen Equilibrium?
OK, when i counted a couple of days ago, over the last six months, out of 380 or si deaths, there were TWO listed as having died out of Iraq. I don't feel like counting again, or farther back, and I am not sufficiently up on ststistics to do a professional analysis.
But I am having a hard time believing that hospital care for very badly torn-up people is THAT good.
DiCaprio Hit With Bottle at Party, People Reports
LOS ANGELES (June 1
- Leonardo DiCaprio was hit with a bottle while attending a Hollywood party given by Paris Hilton's ex-boyfriend and needed about a dozen stitches to close a wound near his ear, People Magazine reported on its Web site.
The magazine said DiCaprio was at a party at about 4 a.m. Friday at the home of Rick Salomon when a woman struck him with what appeared to be a beer bottle. No ambulance was called but friends took the actor to a hospital where he received about a dozen stitches, People said.
Be careful-Karl Rove is getting the wide eyed leaks out to make everyone disclaim the entire media.
EXPECT THE USUAL LEAFLET LOOSING,MORE 9-11 NO PLANE HIT THE PETANGON, DEMO RUMOR AFFAIRS, SOMEONE PUT AN OJ RUMOR UP ON KOS, ETC.
There will likely be an "uncofirmed source" story soon.
We don't need that. We've got m16 head as a wtiness. Unless it's Blair,Powell, Tenet, or the number two CIA who bailed when he did, sit.
this uncounted dead thing seems to pop up every couple of months or so. it's always presented as something new. i've never seen any evidence that it's true. i looked at the link and the guy says he is putting together evidence. maybe he has some. i wouldn't bet on it though.
OTOH, one thing does argue against a massive coverup of American deaths in Iraq; would even THIS administration have the balls to try it?
Have you ever seen Equilibrium?
oh.
yes.
US lied to Britain over use of napalm in Iraq war.
Is there one single thing ChimpCo has not lied about? More lawbreaking shit by the minute. Is Poodle boy going to finally stop throwing himself on his sword for the idiot Bu$h and rat him out now? Jeepers H. Christmas. What is wrong with B
Then we can always wait until the depleted uranium kicks in and count again.
Make that Blair. Hellsoscan, kiss my (_O_) Thank you.
Hey Eli--this week, I had a Happy Meal because the featured toys are from Sharkboy and Lavagirl. I got the really cool shark water pistol. Really cool.
Keep it simple: find one case of a death misreported.
If you could do that, maybe then you could move on and find another, or a pattern, or a major superscandal.
Ain't happening.
Iraq milestones:
At 1,720 dead and counting, the Iraq War is probably within a week of passing the Mexican War's 1,733 as the 8th deadliest (killed in action) in U.S. history.
http://www.cwc.lsu.edu/cwc/other...ats/
warcost.htm
Add in Afghanistan and it'll soon be the 3rd longest, behind Vietnam and the American Revolution.
Americans like a good war, but they like them quick and they like them when we win. Americans are beginning to see that Iraq is neither of those, and it's only going to get worse from here on out.
the Iraq War is probably within a week of passing the Mexican War's 1,733
But hey, we got Texas and Cullyfornia out of that invasion!
Put your money where your mouth is!
"Batman Begins" fucking ROCKS!
My daughter saw it last night and LOVED it. She said it was over 3 hours long. Can that be? I only saw one Batman movie and it sucked. I wouldn't mind seeing a good one that stuck to the comic book version.
Hi, Moonbats.
Just got back from my daughter's dance recital. Little kids dancing -- ya gotta love it. Some are sooooo serious; others haven't got a clue. I had a wonderful time.
re: casualties. I doubt the 9000 number, but I doubt the 1720 number, too. I've gone through the lists at icasualties.org and they show less than 100 who died outside of Iraq -- less than 20 at Walter Reed; less than 20 at Bethesda; less than 20 at Landstuhl. With over 10,000 wounded that is less than 1% who eventually die of wounds. I said it earlier today and I'll say it again: our doctors are good, but they ain't that good.
Put your money where your mouth is!
You don't know where my mouth's been!
Central--you should've told me that earlier 
I only saw one Batman movie and it sucked.
I watched half of the first one and gave up. Never had any interst after that.
bigvic,
running time is 2:20.
and with that, I bid you adieu.
I heard this casualty count thing about a year ago in a Q&A on a CSPAN program.
At the time a local guy had died in the States from wound in Iraq. I checked and he was listed.
I don't know what to think of it. Seems it'd be awfully hard to get away with but I've said that before of this bunch.
(Honestly? It takes 2 or 3 times this amount to gear up. Still going on today? With President AWOL in charge, what would you expect?)
Dad picks up $600 tab to get Marine battle ready
Jun. 18, 2005 12:00 AM
http://www.azcentral.com/news/
co...ason18Z10.html#
John Tod of Mesa had been prepared to face Father's Day worrying about his son's pending date with the war in Iraq.
Then Uncle Sam stepped in with more disappointing developments.
Marine Pfc. Jeremy Tod called home with news that his superiors were urging him and fellow Marines to buy special military equipment, including flak jackets with armor plating, to enhance the prospects of their survival.
The message was that such purchases were to be made by Marines with their own money.
"He said they strongly suggested he get this equipment because when they get to Iraq they will wish they had," Tod said.
Total estimated cost: $600.
Tod said his son's call about two weeks ago from the Marine Corps Air Station-Yuma was a sobering reminder that the military is not prepared to equip Pfc. Tod and fellow Marines with the best equipment.
Besides the essential flak jacket with steel "trauma" plates, the shopping list for the young Marine included a Camelbak (water pouch) special ballistic goggles, knee and elbow pads, a "drop pouch" to hold ammunition magazines and a load-bearing vest.
snip
"We're supposed to have a professional army," he said, "the best in the world. And we're not providing them with the type of gear they need to protect themselves as they do their jobs."
Marine Maj. Nat Frahy, a spokesman in Washington, said the military issues equipment, but it's possible that young Tod's commanders told him that it was perfectly OK to buy equipment that would help him on the battlefield.
Told about the Marine request, U.S. Rep. J. D. Hayworth, the Republican whose 5th District includes Mesa, said he has never heard of a service person being told to buy his own equipment.
Hayworth said he will contact the military to "find out what on earth is going on and why isn't that stuff there for them already. If it involves bottlenecks and glitches to get equipment to them then there should be a voucher system where military personnel can be reimbursed."
etc.
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Hayworth can suck horses.
From Rich:
But the old magic is going kaput. Mr. Bush's 60-stop Social Security "presidential roadshow," his latest round of pre-scripted and heavily rehearsed faux town-hall meetings, hasn't repeated the success of "Ask the President." Support for private Social Security accounts actually declined as the tour played out and Mr. Bush increasingly sounded as if he were protesting too much. "See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda," the president said on May 24. He sounded as if he were channeling Mr. Cruise's desperate repetitions of his love for his "terrific lady."
As time goes on, it seems more and more like Bush's mandate is turning into a mansquito...
http://tinyurl.com/c4zdl
"We're supposed to have a professional army," he said, "the best in the world. And we're not providing them with the type of gear they need to protect themselves as they do their jobs."
Tyler Durden did the cost/analysis.
With over 10,000 wounded that is less than 1% who eventually die of wounds. I said it earlier today and I'll say it again: our doctors are good, but they ain't that good.
Toonscribe
Any stateside thoracic or vascular surgeon would have statues made in his honor if he had a 1% mortality rate during his career.
How many surgeons tell a prospective surgery patient "don't worry, I can guarantee that over 99 times out of 100, we're successful?"
Or any profession?
The shelf life of the fakery that sold the war has also expired. On June 7, a Washington Post/ABC News poll found for the first time that a majority of Americans believe the war in Iraq has not made the United States safer. A week later Gallup found that a clear majority (59 percent) wants to withdraw some or all American troops. Most Americans tell pollsters the war isn't "worth it," and the top reasons they cite, said USA Today, include "fraudulent claims and no weapons of mass destruction found" and "the belief that Iraq posed no threat to the United States."
Brutal
Hey Eli--this week, I had a Happy Meal because the featured toys are from Sharkboy and Lavagirl. I got the really cool shark water pistol. Really cool.
Cool!
Sorry, was busy ordering a new laptop.
Dell's website is *awful*. Maybe they do maintenance on weekends or something, but even taking that into account, it's still pretty damn godawful.
At 1,720 dead and counting, the Iraq War is probably within a week of passing the Mexican War's 1,733 as the 8th deadliest (killed in action) in U.S. history.
I think the "magic" number is 3,000.
John Burns in the New York Times, at the end of a story about the lack of troops forcing us to play whack-a-mole with the insurgents:
... a feeling is growing among senior officers in Baghdad and Washington that it is only a matter of time before the Pentagon sets a timetable of its own for withdrawal. These officers point to the effect on American public opinion of the slow disintegration of the 30-nation military coalition that America leads, and to frustration on Capitol Hill with the faltering buildup of Iraqi forces. These officers also cite the recruiting slump and fear the risk is growing that the war, like Vietnam, will do lasting damage to the Army and the Marines.
"I think the drawdown will occur next year, whether the Iraqi security forces are ready or not," a senior Marine officer in Washington said last week. "Look for covering phrases like 'We need to start letting the Iraqis stand on their own feet, and that isn't going to happen until we start drawing down'."
On June 7, a Washington Post/ABC News poll found for the first time that a majority of Americans believe the war in Iraq has not made the United States safer.
That's a nice little birthday present for me...
Interesting piece. It's too bad Freidman or Milbank didn't have the "cahones" to write it.
http://www.sickone.com/cahones.jpg
Be careful-Karl Rove is getting the wide eyed leaks out to make everyone disclaim the entire media.
EXPECT THE USUAL LEAFLET LOOSING,MORE 9-11 NO PLANE HIT THE PETANGON, DEMO RUMOR AFFAIRS, SOMEONE PUT AN OJ RUMOR UP ON KOS, ETC.
There will likely be an "uncofirmed source" story soon.
We don't need that. We've got m16 head as a wtiness. Unless it's Blair,Powell, Tenet, or the number two CIA who bailed when he did, sit.
I'm afraid I don't get this.Eloboration please?
So I'm entertaining myself watching LANDSHARK by staying one scene ahead on the liveblog and trying to figure out what happens next.
So far it hasn't been tough.
I'm easily entertained.
How many surgeons tell a prospective surgery patient "don't worry, I can guarantee that over 99 times out of 100, we're successful?"
It's not 99% of all injuries, it's 99% of all people who the medics deemed healthy enough for the hours long plane ride to Landstuhl in Germany. I find it plausible.
On June 7, a Washington Post/ABC News poll found for the first time that a majority of Americans believe the war in Iraq has not made the United States safer.
Curious wording in that statement.
Do these folks now think that Shrub has gone and made us *less* safe that we were to begin with?
Oh, I'm too tired tonight. Fuck Bush. That is all.
Most Americans tell pollsters the war isn't "worth it," and the top reasons they cite, said USA Today, include "fraudulent claims and no weapons of mass destruction found" and "the belief that Iraq posed no threat to the United States."
Tomorrow, the Sunday morning whores will claim this doesn't because Bush is "popular" and "resolute".
it's 99% of all people who the medics deemed healthy enough for the hours long plane ride to Landstuhl
Medics? There are no teams of surgeons and modern hospital facilities "in country"?
Billmon has a great post!!!
Check out Form Over Substance over at Whiskey Bar
Tomorrow, the Sunday morning whores will claim this doesn't because Bush is "popular" and "resolute".
I dunno.
For a lot of people, that line's worn thin.
Less Hammerhead. More Shark Frenzy.
"I think the drawdown will occur next year, whether the Iraqi security forces are ready or not," a senior Marine officer in Washington said last week. "Look for covering phrases like 'We need to start letting the Iraqis stand on their own feet, and that isn't going to happen until we start drawing down'."
Isn't that special? They have their own language for defeat all lined up. By all means, blame the Iraqi people, whose country we invaded and destroyed on a whim for the wreck we leave them with. Saddam himself couldn't pull off a disaster this big.
http://www.sickone.com/cahones.jpg
Thats one MANLY squirrrel!
Medics? There are no teams of surgeons and modern hospital facilities "in country"?
Yeah, them too.
Kenosha Kid
No, it's 99% of all listed wounded survive. Now, approximately half of all wounded are listed as being able to return to duty within 3 days. That still leaves over 5000 wounded who are sufficiently injured to require more extended medical treatment. How many have been transported to Landstuhl? I don't know. But with less than twenty who died at Landstuhl, it sounds odd to me. Also, about 15% of those who are reported as dieing outside of Iraq are illness, suicide, and non-combat injuries.
I didn't have the heart to show you the page it came from. I didn't want to be responsible for the nightmares. You can take it from the URL that it wasn't pretty.
More interesting is that it's the top-ranked site for the term "Cahones" on Yahoo.
I understand your point TKK, the out of country mortality numbers just strike me as very, very low. Part of it, I suppose, is the tremendous advances in immediate medical care even since Vietnam, which was a marked improvement over earlier wars.
John McLaughlin said on his show tonight: 1700 dead, 41,000 wounded and 100,000+ Iraqi civilians dead.
Of course, Freidman and Milbank wished they looked so manly with their clothes off...
icasualties.org also lists a couple of medical facilities inside Iraq and in Kuwait -- and again, less than 20 are listed as dieing IN those facilities.
John McLaughlin said on his show tonight: 1700 dead, 41,000 wounded and 100,000+ Iraqi civilians dead.
But we still have the best goddamn right-wing blogosphere in the FUCKING WORLD!
U S A! U S A!
If you're hearing about casualty reports, you're doing ok.
41,000 wounded?!
That's at least a 3X jump from conventional wisdom.
"I think the drawdown will occur next year, whether the Iraqi security forces are ready or not," a senior Marine officer in Washington said last week. "Look for covering phrases like 'We need to start letting the Iraqis stand on their own feet, and that isn't going to happen until we start drawing down'."
I'm pretty sure that's what a lot of polls are asking and the answer is "yes"
We aren't safe. The dmbasses slept through 911 and tore up the scenery in Iraq. They are screwing us. Thank God Montana is a gun-loving heaven of anti-terrorists! We can all move there.
After reading Rich's piece, I took a look at Brooks on First. The summation :
"Frist too appears to have been gradually altered. Many who've known him say it's hard to square the current on-message leader with the honest young man of "Transplant," the stiff, ideological politician with the beloved community leader who made such a mark on Nashville.
Sometimes in their quests to perform greater acts of service, people lose contact with their animating passion. And the irony is that the earlier Frist, the Tennessee Republican, the brilliant and passionate health care expert, is exactly the person the country could use."
Call me cynical, but is this an image make over in process. Next up, Frist comes in from the cold and pushes for accountability from President.
I realize that is a bit outrageous as speculation goes, but anything goes at this point.
Was it bigvic who commented the rats are jumping ship?
AP has a memo up of a meeting between Wolfowitz and UK ambassador.
Very interesting.
And twice they cited info in New Yorker. Like they were getting their intelligence from the fucking New Yorker.
Shit!
The memo is in sidebar at AP:
http://tinyurl.com/cfvhp
Can we at least count up how many Purple Hearts have been awarded in the Irag/Afghanistan wars, or will the Swifties write another Scaife funded protest book about it?
sorry I meant Brooks on Frist.
Was it bigvic who commented the rats are jumping ship?
There's still a whole bunch of 'em steering it...
Eli
The pictures you create.
We are really well and truly fucked, aren't we?
Since the last comment I can see for the last few minutes is mine, I guess it isn't Eli's fault, I broke haloscan this time.
Sorry.
The pictures you create.
Be grateful I have zero Photoshop Fu.
I don't think so Sally, but we are damned uncomfortable right now. Bush and crew are going down.
The real problem, who can lead us back to something sane?
Haloscan is a fusking neocon,
We are really well and truly fucked, aren't we?
I'm not.
(insert appropriate smiley emoticon here)
Be well y'all.
EkCenTrik
I just assumed that everyone had just suddenly gotten a life -- or else the Rapture had come.
Eli
it took just a single mental step to see the rats in sailor's suits manning the bridge.
Eli--did you hear that? You weren't blamed for something. For once.
Eli--did you hear that? You weren't blamed for something. For once.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
I think that Eli's not being blamed for this is all Eli's fault.
Toonscribe
Okay, adding that one to my list of insecurities when Haloscan stalls. On the other hand, it takes the heat off of my fear that I finally said something so dumb that everyone left and will never speak to me.
Oh, that's right. It's Eli's fault.
Eli--did you hear that? You weren't blamed for something. For once.
I'm sure it was an oversight.
On my part.
OK one reference to The New Yorker wasn't so much about intelligence onn Iraq as on the fight in administration over the Iraqi National Congress. sorry for any confusion.
And then Wolfie goes on to support Chalabi as providing great defectors and piss on the CIA for not liking Chalabi...HA.
That's laughable now.
EkCenTriK= I meant Brooks on Frist.
I couldn't bear to read it. He's always writing to an agenda.
"Sometimes in their quests to perform greater acts of service, people lose contact with their animating passion."
All that's missing is, "I nominate Bill Frist to be the next presidient of the United States."
Right, the Frists of Columbia/HCA, the giant that swallowed community hospitals in small towns across the country? Some passion that.
Eli
I have thought of a test for you. Point a finger at anyone and simply say j'accuse! If you can keep your finger from turning back to point at you, you are home free.
Eli
I have thought of a test for you. Point a finger at anyone and simply say j'accuse! If you can keep your finger from turning back to point at you, you are home free.
EkCenTriK
Quit trying to break Eli's finger.
I have thought of a test for you. Point a finger at anyone and simply say j'accuse! If you can keep your finger from turning back to point at you, you are home free.
*Which* finger? I sense a trick.
I think that Eli's not being blamed for this is all Eli's fault.
No, the fault lies in Eli's unwillingness to take responsibility for Eli not being blamed for the thing that Eli didn't not do.
BP
Rebuilding Frist's image would be job number one. He is pretty much layered with all the games he has played as late. I don't think he has a chance at the oval office anyway. One side loathes him for who he is, the other side loathes him for the fact that he wasn't what they thought he was.
AP has a memo up of a meeting between Wolfowitz and UK ambassador.
Very interesting.
And twice they cited info in New Yorker. Like they were getting their intelligence from the fucking New Yorker.
Shit!
Sy Hersh told more truth than the DoD or White House. Why not give him credit? It will be hell to acccept that a reporter has more smarts than the big-wigs in charge. Or should that read nitwits in charge?
Wolfie wasn't focused on WMD as much as Saddam's barbarism as reason for war which would also:
"go along way to destory the notion of moral equivalence between Iraq and Israel"
"Quit trying to break Eli's finger.
rorschach"
I just swallowed an ice cube. Thanks a bunch.
I have thought of a test for you. Point a finger at anyone and simply say j'accuse! If you can keep your finger from turning back to point at you, you are home free.
I heard that if your hand is bigger than your face, you're retarded.
No, the fault lies in Eli's unwillingness to take responsibility for Eli not being blamed for the thing that Eli didn't not do.
Thersites
Now I'm confused...
Damn you, Eli!!!!!!
/Jon Stewart
Finger choice is at your option Eli. Of course,if you choose wrong, well, then it's your fault anyway.
I just swallowed an ice cube. Thanks a bunch.
EkCenTriK
Don't thank me, thank... guess who?
Do you think that it is the volumes of malfeasance, negligence, uncut greed, and even Nixon-gauge *fucking huge* abuse of power that has turned the collective opinion against Shrub?
Or, is it simple that they don't figgur they'd have a beer with him anymore?
Has the other half finally figured out that, at it's simplest level, our president is just a fucking dick?
I think Frist is likely to not be a contender in 2008. But what I'm really worried about is Prince Jeb.
We really have to swing 2006, hard.
Sy Hersh told more truth than the DoD or White House. Why not give him credit?
Not to take anything away from Hersh.
But for the billions we spend on intelligence I didn't think all they did was sit aound reading the New Yorker.
Hell I do that....can I plan the next war???
I think,,we all think that Eli thinks he knows he thinks its all his fault.
ESPNews is making a big fuss about something the owner of the Formula One circuit said about women race car drivers, but I couldn't understand a damn word he said...
Just as long as I don't get blamed for anything the Republicans fuck up, I'm okay...
Sally, Jeb my have destroyed that with the latest Schiavo shenanigans.
No, the fault lies in Eli's unwillingness to take responsibility for Eli not being blamed for the thing that Eli didn't not do.
Thersites
Now I'm confused...
Damn you, Eli!!!!!!
It's good that you see that Eli must accept that Eli's refusal to accept the onus of not being blamed for his non-responsibility for the thing that Eli did not never do means that Eli bears the burden of not being liable for not being the not-I of the Eli-not do, which is to say, love is a battlefield, and hell is for children, and that is Eli's not-fault, which means Eli is to blame.
I can't be any clearer, really.
ESPNews is making a big fuss about something the owner of the Formula One circuit said about women race car drivers, but I couldn't understand a damn word he said...
Eli
That's odd. I would have bet the farm that the owner of the Formula One circuit would be a raging feminist... Go figure.
Eli,
I thought I saw a clear reference to Blaming Eli in the DSM.
Zach--I think if they have figured that out, we can look forward to Bush's poll numbers continue on the downward trend.
Did I mention that Dell appears to be unaware that I changed my e-mail address, or that I just ordered something?
Pathetic.
All I really blame Eli for is the lack of puns...
It's time to understand:
The 14 Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
by Dr. Lawrence Britt
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military -
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism -
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media -
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security -
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected -
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed -
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections -
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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All I really blame Eli for is the lack of puns...
Don't *make* me talk about Rick Santorum's Fetal Attraction again...
Just heard a snippet of a new Toby Keith song: "I ain't as good as I once was, but I was good once..." WTF???
I don't have time to read the whole thread. Are all you moonbats playing nice?
I think Frist is likely to not be a contender in 2008. But what I'm really worried about is Prince Jeb.
We really have to swing 2006, hard.
Don't you think that after Jugg-head Jeb and chimpy boy GWB, the whole world will say bye-bye to any possible Bush candidate? How many more whacks can this country take from a Bush? Flush all Bushes for ever.
Did Haloscan just die, or did everyone just disappear en masse?
Night bats and love you.
We need to hit these America-destroying fucks with the chair, every day in every way.
I heard that if your hand is bigger than your face, you're retarded.
Is this something like the old thing about big thumbs being related to big, uh, other things?
Eli
You have to realize that lyric is not meant to be heard by a sober liberal. It only translates correctly after a 6 pack, a fight with the wife and side swiping your Dodge Ram on a fence post in the middle of nothing.
Don't *make* me talk about Rick Santorum's Fetal Attraction again...
Eli
That thing they cut out in the LandShark movie, really isn't something I'd take home and pray over with my family.
Maybe this whole Gomez as President, Uncle Fester as VP, Stepford Laura as Morticia, and the fucked up kids is really what we want and need in this country right now.
Charles Addams would be surprised that his 1940's New Yorker cartoon ran the planet, though.
I just had a brilliant post that solved all the problems of the world and brought peace and joy to all of humanity, but Haloscan ate it.
I blame Eli.
EkCenTrik--I blame Eli for my having to teach Death March Stats on Monday, among other things.
I also blame him for my having to have Happy Meals so I can get the Sharkboy & Lavagirl toys.
Don't you think that after Jugg-head Jeb and chimpy boy GWB, the whole world will say bye-bye to any possible Bush candidate?
It really is going to depend on how W. finishes. I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Bush's popularity is going to continue to tank, although it's a foregone conclusion that it *should*.
Maybe this whole Gomez as President, Uncle Fester as VP, Stepford Laura as Morticia, and the fucked up kids is really what we want and need in this country right now.
And Lurch conveniently throwing the election?
Did Haloscan just die, or did everyone just disappear en masse?
I think my second to last post just made people too dizzy to see the keyboard properly.
I have just returned from a Major Academic Conference, by the way. Hence my Special Lucidity.
Don't lay this on Chas Addams. The Addams had Family Values. And outside of the possibility of an early demise, I sort of liked their world.
I have just returned from a Major Academic Conference, by the way. Hence my Special Lucidity.
... But I *did* stay at a Holiday Inn Express.
Frist cant' do it. Neither can Jeb. Only one man can keep us on course. I'm talking about Dick. Dick and Rick P. in '08 baby!
I have just returned from a Major Academic Conference, by the way. Hence my Special Lucidity.
Thersites
I noticed that, but I thought it was Radical Liminality.
Thersites
Don't let NYMary hear about your special Lucy or you'll be in big trouble.
Not dead. Final lesson prep. So exciting, I could doze off.
I have just returned from a Major Academic Conference, by the way. Hence my Special Lucidity.
Thersites
I noticed that, but I thought it was Radical Liminality.
Or Silent Lucidity...
I think you all missed it, but on an earlier thread I unilaterally extended 'blame Eli' day thru next Tuesday.
NTodd's up after that.
"I have just returned from a Major Academic Conference, by the way. Hence my Special Lucidity."
funny, I always come back from those things Hung Over.
I have just returned from a Major Academic Conference, by the way. Hence my Special Lucidity.
Thersites
The question on all of our lips is "Will we have sanity in our time?"
I noticed that, but I thought it was Radical Liminality.
I was really trying to reduce everything to a proposition of Elimentary Logic.
I think you all missed it, but on an earlier thread I unilaterally extended 'blame Eli' day thru next Tuesday.
NTodd's up after that.
flory
Whew. Dodged the bullet again...
Hence my Special Lucidity.
Thersites
Social Lunacy?
Serial Luminosity?
I have just returned from a Major Academic Conference, by the way. Hence my Special Lucidity.
Thersites
The question on all of our lips is "Will we have sanity in our time?"
Have you at long last, sir, no sense of lucidity?
I blame Eli.
Toonscribe
Doesn't everyone? Sure beats blaming the real villians. Wouldn't want to go there, would we?
The question on all of our lips is "Will we have sanity in our time?"
Not if that time is around 11AM, no.
Sacral Loquacity?
Personally I am waiting for the new film Oval Office Space to come out.
It continues the tales of Milton now in his new line of work as a presidential aide. It explains why combat troops in Iraq do not have adequate equipment but every troop carries a red swingline stapler into combat.
Some guys get to be hunks, some guys get to be scapegoats. Maybe I should grow a scapegoatee or something...
I want a snack.
I need Alimentary Logic.
Whew. Dodged the bullet again...
rorschach
Not so fast, bucky. You're in the rotation.
Don't let NYMary hear about your special Lucy or you'll be in big trouble.
Not to worry! She only very rarely pays any attention to me whatsoever.
I want a snack.
I need Alimentary Logic.
Toonscribe
As long as we've been sitting here commenting, I think we've all succumbed to Sedentary Logic...
Which is better then Eli, being a scapegoat or a whipping child?
Hmm no update ..is it the Rapture?
Not so fast, bucky. You're in the rotation.
flory
Well, whenever I'm here and Incog gets cranky, it usually becomes blame rorschach day, at least for that one (invariably protracted) event.
Which is better then Eli, being a scapegoat or a whipping child?
Well, I'm not into the S&M scene, and I'm pretty omnivorous, so you be the judge...
I think we've all succumbed to Sedentary Logic...
rorschach
More like Sedentary Lividity, I think.
Some guys get to be hunks, some guys get to be scapegoats
Point of order!
Recruiting problems and a surfeit of bad policy decisons have dictated that the administration outsource its ridiculous blame-passing.
From now on, we will only be able to speak of "scapellamas."
Blame Eli until Tuesday. OK! That works well.
What the hell is the origin of scapegoat?
Some animal you push off a cliff?
We should know this.
More like Sedentary Lividity, I think.
flory
Or, paradoxical as it may sound, Sedentary Vivacity.
Some animal you push off a cliff?
Fire escape. Duh.
Well, whenever I'm here and Incog gets cranky, it usually becomes blame rorschach day
Yeah, that's an exception to the rotation. You and NTodd get days off for that.
Which is better then Eli, being a scapegoat or a whipping child?
Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping child.
Thersites,
does that mean that Eli is the "scapellamas."
Eli
I think you fit more the Punning Pinata of Eschaton.
More like Sedentary Lividity, I think.
flory
Or, paradoxical as it may sound, Sedentary Vivacity.
I personally strive for Silent Virility.
Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping child.
Another pro in the scapegoat column...
I'd always heard scapegoat was Middle Eastern in origin. Place the sins of the village on a goat and then stone it to death. A charming old folk custom....
Toonscribe--did you say snack? We have lovely chocolate cake.
Scapegoat Etymology: 1scape; intended as translation of Hebrew 'azAzEl (probably name of a demon), as if 'Ez 'OzEl goat that departs--Leviticus 16:8 (AV)
Scapegoat:
Bible. A live goat over whose head Aaron confessed all the sins of the children of Israel on the Day of Atonement. The goat, symbolically bearing their sins, was then sent into the wilderness.
Atriots: Sedentary Vivacity and Silent Virility (okay, male Atriots on the latter).
Trolls: Sedentary Rapacity and Strident "Virility."
"From now on, we will only be able to speak of "scapellamas."
Thersites "
A choir of pack animals singing A cappellama.
Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping child.
Thersites
Allman Brothers or Zeppelin, I can't dredge up right now.
Started with going Medieval on somebody, I think.
Sallyh
I'd love a piece of chocolate cake.
Thank you very much.
Trolls: Sedentary Rapacity and Strident "Virility."
More like Virulent Senility.
Yeah, that's an exception to the rotation. You and NTodd get days off for that.
flory
heh. indeed.
Allman Brothers or Zeppelin, I can't dredge up right now.
Allmans. Zeppelin was Gallows Pole.
A choir of pack animals singing A cappellama.
EkCenTriK
Led by the capo di cappellamas, I presume?
More like Virulent Senility.
Eli
or Violent Stupidity
A choir of pack animals singing A cappellama.
EkCenTriK
Led by the capo di cappellamas, I presume?
rorschach
Singing cantos of corpus llamas.
or Violent Stupidity
flory
And Bilious Mendacity.
Allmans. Zeppelin was Gallows Pole.
Eli
Great fucking get, dude.
Oh, the forgotten memories.
I've always heard the Fernando llamas were the best -- covered in real Corinthian leather.
I've always heard the Fernando llamas were the best -- covered in real Corinthian leather.
Yes, they look marvelous.
Good Time of the Darkness, Dear Moonbats. I just came back from a party. I went Dressed as a Woman. Most interesting an experience...
A choir of pack animals singing A cappellama.
EkCenTriK
Led by the capo di cappellamas, I presume?
rorschach
Singing cantos of corpus llamas.
flory
Man, when it comes to puns, alpaca lot of them in, but you guys have gone too fur.
Man, when it comes to puns, alpaca lot of them in, but you guys have gone too fur.
I think this is where I camel in...
Trolls don't have strident virility, but they do have strychnine viscosity.
Zeppelin was Gallows Pole.
Or, Llamas Prose.
Gregg Allman did drugs and did Cher.
I went Dressed as a Woman. Most interesting an experience...
Echidne of the snakes
Hi, mom!
A costume party? Its not midsummer yet - what's the occasion?
Good Time of the Darkness, Dear Moonbats. I just came back from a party. I went Dressed as a Woman. Most interesting an experience...
Echidne of the snakes
I hope you did not go unescorted, because you know, men just want to get laid. It's just how they are.
Okay, I think it's time for me to indulge in some Snoring Immobility...
Good Time of the Darkness, Dear Moonbats. I just came back from a party. I went Dressed as a Woman.
I am sure you were ravishing.
I think this is where I camel in...
Eli
Goato far and you'll be sorry.
Gregg Allman did drugs and did Cher.
Thersites
It was nice of him to Cher. That way we could all have some.
I think this is where I camel in...
Eli
I was trying to resist, but now it looks like I'm guanaco punning again...
Echidne--I made chocolate cake tonight...would the Goddess desire some?
Gregg Allman did drugs and did Cher.
Thersites
Gregg Allman did drugs and did not Cher.
Night Eli. Remember - tomorrow is *still* blame Eli Day.
I was ravishing. That was the idea. To dress so as to reveal rather than to disguise. But it was very interesting. Like dropped jaws and stuff. Usually I don't go all out.
men just want to get laid.
They just a -wanna? They just a - wanna? When the working day is done?
Thanks, Sallyh. I'll have a big piece.
Though I have been eating lots of chocolate already. In a good mood.
Gregg Allman did drugs and did not Cher.
Zach Wheat
If he did not Cher, then where did Elijah Blue come from?
it was very interesting. Like dropped jaws and stuff.
Madame, you must be beautiful wherever you venture. Beauty is the truth of your soul.
I was trying to resist, but now it looks like I'm guanaco punning again...
rorschach
To burro a phrase - some people have no willpower.
Madame, you must be beautiful wherever you venture. Beauty is the truth of your soul.
Thersites
Thers stole my thoughts and made them sound better than I ever could!
If he did not Cher, then where did Elijah Blue come from?
Drugs.
Just because the name sounds really cool when you're wasted doesn't mean it should go on the goddamn birth certificate.
Thank you Thersites. I can see why NYMary keeps you around.
To burro a phrase - some people have no willpower.
flory
Hey, who are you to criticize, vicuna stopped myself?
Thers stole my thoughts and made them sound better than I ever could!
Well, the thoughts were just lying there... I was actually trying to shoplift some Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
Usually I don't go all out.
Echidne of the snakes
Was there an occasion? Or did you just have a whim?
If he did not Cher, then where did Elijah Blue come from?
Toonscribe
A late night Tuscaloosa after-show orgy.
Just because the name sounds really cool when you're wasted doesn't mean it should go on the goddamn birth certificate.
Thersites
Amen to that. What are some people thinking?
Thers stole my thoughts and made them sound better than I ever could!
Well, the thoughts were just lying there... I was actually trying to shoplift some Yu-Gi-Oh cards.
Thersites
Well, at least you have a keen eye for what's of greater value...
Was there an occasion? Or did you just have a whim?
flory, I was doing research. To see what effect my new personality would have. Nobody was uncontrollably affected but some men sort of followed me around. Nicely, though. Offering to get me drinks or tidbits or whatever while trying to see my tits more clearly, I suspect.
Hey, who are you to criticize, vicuna stopped myself?
rorschach
Koala if you'd really wanted to.
I was doing research. To see what effect my new personality would have.
And the conclusions of your experiment were....?
Besides men like titties?
flory, I was doing research. To see what effect my new personality would have. Nobody was uncontrollably affected but some men sort of followed me around. Nicely, though. Offering to get me drinks or tidbits or whatever while trying to see my tits more clearly, I suspect.
Echidne of the snakes
Wow. You had a good time. Around members of both genders. Without completely burying your sexuality. In fact, revelling in it. And yet you are not...
A Missing White Woman!
The mind boggles.
Echidne--there is no such thing as too much chocolate. So what you can't finish tonight, I'll leave at the altar, assuming Hank and Henrietta won't eat it. (I have pumpkin loaf for them).
And the conclusions of your experiment were....?
That it does make a difference how one dresses but not an enormous difference. These were people I knew from before, mostly. They seemed to have good self-control.
I just wanted to know how it would be.
Cool!
No trolls this thread and the 1924 Notre Dame backfield is still intact.
I'll Grantland you some Rice.
Well, at least you have a keen eye for what's of greater value...
To the 5-Year-Old, Yu-Gi-Oh cards are the most valuable items in existence.
it's his first fad, which is both charming and alarming.
the 1924 Notre Dame backfield is still intact.
McLeary, O'Leary, MacLeary, Macleery, O'Laoghaire, and O'Maclearski?
To the 5-Year-Old, Yu-Gi-Oh cards are the most valuable items in existence.
it's his first fad, which is both charming and alarming.
Thersites
Indeed. I remember when (I think I was in undergrad) "Pogs" came out. Never did understand it.
Yu-Gi-Oh, huh?
My son still suffers from a five year addiction to Pokemon.
McLeary, O'Leary, MacLeary, Macleery, O'Laoghaire, and O'Maclearski?
Thersites
And Solly Goldstein, their agent.
My son still suffers from a five year addiction to Pokemon.
Toonscribe
They still make those? That was my nephews craze - right after Power Rangers. Its so 20th century.
O'Maclearski?
O'Maclearski? They had a ringer in the Notre Dame backfield?
Flory--my daughter never got into Mighty Morphin Power Rangers (all the rage with her classmates at the time). But we did have the Little Mermaid and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
The Turtles were okay, actually. And we watched Darkwing Duck together all the time. That was a sly show.
The Tamagochis were the worst.
Indeed. I remember when (I think I was in undergrad) "Pogs" came out. Never did understand it.
Gotta hold on to those Alf pogs, tho!
Flory
Yes, they still make Pokemon cards and video games -- a new one came out for the Gameboy Advanced this year.
I blush to admit that I did some early development on Power Rangers. They didn't use much of it because I was trying to make it more campy and funny. I couldn't take it seriously.
The Tamagochis were the worst.
I have a good recipe for Tamagochi julienne.
Of course, at the same time all these kids were getting hooked on these crazy silly fads, my friends in college were spending money on Magic cards... Never quite got that either.
sallyh - I think the Ninja Turtles were before my younger nephews time. My older nephew may've caught the very beginning of that fad - but its so long ago I can't even remember.
The Turtles were okay, actually.
I always thought Happy Together was too much like The Lettermen.
"they had a ringer in the Notre Dame backfield?"
it was amazing what steroids did for Quasimodo
Happy Fathers' Day to all the daddies, here, by the way.
O'Maclearski? They had a ringer in the Notre Dame backfield?
Well, O'Maclearski was a Catholic. E-I-E-I-O.
I blush to admit that I did some early development on Power Rangers.
Toon - why blush? If you were able to get a piece of the sales in return for your work, you'd be retired in fine style.
Happy Fathers' Day to all the daddies, here, by the way.
Echidne of the snakes
I'd say I'm not a father, but my cats would kick my ass. Or at least look at me reproachfully.
Pogs were OK, but The Pogues were better. If messier.
Happy Fathers' Day to all the daddies, here, by the way.
Echidne of the snakes
What Mom said. Happy Daddy's day.
Well, O'Maclearski was a Catholic. E-I-E-I-O.
Thersites
And in his church they had a safety EIEIO
With a grunt, grunt, here
And a grunt, grunt there.....
Pogs were OK, but The Pogues were better. If messier.
Thersites
They went downhill after losing their McGowan Pog.
Flory
Nobody gets a piece of the action when they work for Saban -- except Haim Saban.
Sallyh
I also worked on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I wrote eight of those. It was a fun show. The story editor, Jack Mendelson, used to be a writer on The Carol Burnet Show and also wrote some M*A*S*H episodes.
I'd say I'm not a father, but my cats would kick my ass. Or at least look at me reproachfully.
rorschach
As they rrrightfully should.
(flicks tail once, looks at you reproachfully.)
so.
And in his church they had a safety EIEIO
With a grunt, grunt, here
And a grunt, grunt there.....
Not that they used forward passes in 1924, tho...
The safety back then was mostly responsible for a dance.
My first father's day! Thank you!
This dad is off to sleep. Two posts about cunning plans are at my homepage. Niters!
¡Vivo Lo poetastro McGowan!
&iecl;MMMMMMEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOWWWagh!
so.
The safety back then was mostly responsible for a dance.
Thersites
Are you saying that safeties back then were men without helmets?
That's great, Adonais. Though you probably won't get a present yet...
At least from your baby.
Nighty-night, Thers.
Sleep tight.
Good night, Thers. I better turn in, too. Before the sun rises and turns me into dust.
Thanks Echidne. She is my present. Such a sweet little thing when she's sleeping.
¡Curse you Jello-scan.com!
(lowers head and voice)
Thees ees no over between us, you-may-be-verrry certain of that, jes?
(fluff's fur, leaves room through patio door with a single miffed tailflick)
Night Thers.
Even if you are a font of trivia.....
I guess its beddybye time for me as well.
Night all. See you tomorrow.
Is Haloscan being wicked or has the night thread truly died?
It does seem to be winding down. Time for the change of shift?
Well, as I seem to be the last one at the party, I'll turn off the lights and toddle off to bed. I'll clean the mess up tomorrow.
Atrios, check out your Wikipedia entry!
It's already been updated to reflect your designation of Eschaton as an online magazine.
He has another "story" about her on his page. I guess the man really hates her, or maybe is jealous of her? I dunno. It somehow ties into his homosexuality, I'm sure, but I can't place how, exactly.
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