I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
Yah know ... I've heard that one at many a DC Tavern myself.
Fuck DeLay without Delay
Oh, and did I break the Frist rule?
I've heard that too.
A little birdie told me he was so shit faced on the golf course a couple of months ago he fell out of the golf cart.
With lots of witnesses around.
I believe it.
Ahhh Delay! A fucktard's fucktard.
Truth? You can't handle the truth!
hopefully, georgie boy will be next
Tom Delay drinking...?
Thash not sshlander... thass de troosh! Trooooof.
The Clown-hammer.
It looks more and more like a cabal of McCarthyite's with Delay leading the pack carrying the keg.
delay is primarily hardwired for corruption- all other emotions are secondary and thus unevolved...
Yeah. Good Repuglican!!!
Somebody, quick, forward the link to the clip to the Daily Show!
Please? Please? Be your best friend...?
Saw on the comments on that site about dick Dick Cheney being rushed to the hospital. Any word on that?
Ooh, snap!
Me-OWW!!!
Well, it ties in with the original Rove speech pretty neatly. Maybe Tom and Karl broke into a case of vintage Old Satan Whiskey (straight from the WH cellars) sometime earlier in the week.
Shades of Tricky Dick!
BTW, apparently it's "studly military nutjob" night on TCM. They've followed up The Caine Mutiny with A Few Good Men. Maybe O'Lielly will whine and cry about them not supporting the troops.
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Saw on the comments on that site about dick Dick Cheney being rushed to the hospital. Any word on that?
Jebus. I hope they keep the doors to the maternity ward locked.
Carry- on JOE CONASONNNNNN!!!!
Yes, Conason should have a show.
I don't care who tucker has on. I will never watch ONE FUCKING SECOND of his putrid experiment.
I saw a pic of him somewhere today with a bandage across his schnoze -- bar fight? 
Jebus. I hope they keep the doors to the maternity ward locked.
And the corridor to the brain surgery suite.
Cause that could get ugly.
Joe Conason and Al Franken devastated Ed Klein. This was the greatest segment of television I have ever witnessed. Rebroadcast at 2.30am on the Sundance Channel.
Dick Cheney being rushed to the hospital. Any word on that?
They had to attach a new Ganymedean slime-mold to the small of his back. The one that was controlling him was worn out. It takes a lot of psychic energy to animate a corpse...especially a grotesquely fat and unwholesome one.
"Look, after the attacks by Dean, Reid, and of course Dickie Durbin, you can't really whine about Karl Rove.
Notice the right rose up in anger to repudiate attacks made on our troops. The left seems only capable of stirring itself into outrage as regards made on the left itself.
Anyone notice that distinction? I think the American public just might."
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/095329.php
FRIST! BEEYATCHES!!!~~~!!!
Pickled DeLay?
What an unappetizing food group.
Frist!!!!
Liberals responded with appeals for understanding, while conservatives responded with appeals to ignorance, and they have not let up.
Well, at least once his Senate career is in ruins, DeLay can always do that one-man tribute to Crazy Guggenheim...
Hey, Phila:
That was quite the psychedelic nudibranch earlier....
Anyone notice that distinction? I think the American public just might."
Judging from the polls, they seem to be too busy noticing what a shitty president Bush is, and how badly Iraq is going.
That was quite the psychedelic nudibranch earlier....
flory
Wasn't it, though?
hell-o-scan ate my tunes! Again, I dedicate this to tom delay, and doughboy rove:
http://mp3.spb.su/cgi-bin/mp3sen...you.mp3?
id=2459
ether is a moral lunatic, like the rest of the sycophants. Here he is excusing torture. Excusing torture! Sickening.
The famous FBI email:
On a couple of occasions, I entered interview rooms to find a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food, or water. Most times they urinated or defecated on themselves, and had been left there for 18-24 hours or more. On one occasion, the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold... On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees. The detainee was almost unconscious on the floor, with a pile of hair next to him. He had apparently been literally pulling his hair out throughout the night. On another occasion, not only was the temperature unbearably hot, but extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before, with the detainee chained hand and foot in the fetal position on the tile floor.
Here is the troll's reply:
Committed by U.S.:
1) "a detainee chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor, with no chair, food, or water."
Considering U.S. prisons often engage in such tactics on unruly prisoners, this doesn't have much merit to me.
2)"the air conditioning had been turned down so far and the temperature was so cold in the room, that the barefooted detainee was shaking with cold... On another occasion, the [air conditioner] had been turned off, making the temperature in the unventilated room well over 100 degrees."
These to me seem to be conditions experienced everyday by poverty ridden Americans. I often work in conditions well above 100 degress in my profession and I'm not poverty ridden at all.
3)extremely loud rap music was being played in the room, and had been since the day before,
Having lived in "killa kali" all my life, blaring rap music has become part of my everday environment.
The parts describing the prisoner pulling his hair out hardly seem to be actions of the U.S., rather, actions chosen by the individual himself.
Sorry, I know you disagree and think i'm an asshole, but is this really comparable to Pol Pot?
ether | Email | Homepage | 06.21.05 - 12:51 am | #
VOODOO HAT!!
PRETENDS CRITICISM OF BUSH IS CRITICISM OF THE TROOPS!!
HAT SUPPORTS REPUBLICANS WHO VOTE AGAINST THE TROOPS!!
HAT IS AN ASSHAT WHO HATES THE TROOPS AND HATES AMERICA!!
HAT IS ALSO A COWARD!!
TACITUS TITTY POWER
Anyone no--
No one gives a fuck what you think.
And you haven't enlisted because why???
Just another motherfucking coward like too fucking scared to do what they want everyone else to do.
Fuck you, brownshirt. Fuck you in hell.
End of discussion.
thersites:
I'm proud of that analysis.
Pussy.
Hey Phila. How goes the work? Starting Monday I go into a text hell myself.
I've got it! BugMan is just trying to make Der Chimperor look polished and eloquent by comparison. It's all so clear to me now. </Ren>
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A little birdie told me he was so shit faced on the golf course a couple of months ago he fell out of the golf cart.
4LG
Late night commercials for "Republicans Gone Wild" coming soon to a cable provider near you!
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I'm proud of that analysis.
It damns you.
Sorry, I know you disagree and think i'm an asshole, but is this really comparable to Pol Pot?
ether
"George W. Bush...not as brutally repressive as Pol Pot!"
I wonder how much lower America's standards would get in coming years, if fear-addled, pea-brained cowards like "ether" had their way?
Loud music, no A.C., and laying on the floor= torture?
Right.
Thersites:
Why do you want counseling for our enemies?
Why must you hug those who wish do destroy you?
Why do you hate America?
Why are you so obsessed with me you keep one of my posts handy to release anytime you see me write anything?
Is your life that pathetic?
I'm pr--
BRAAAAWWWWWWKKK!!! BRAAAAAWWWWKKKK!!! Cluck cluck cluck...
FRIST muthafuckas. thas right. you heard me you sorry bitches. you slovenly smacks. I said FRIST!!! You don't like it? Well suck it. Suck it, baybee!. FRIST I said, and FRIST it is.
Oh my bitches, I wouldn't have said FRIST if it wasn't true and if I didn't mean it. You got me? You hear me muthafuckas? Am I coming in loud and or clear my li'l hos? Don't make me come in there. Cause if I do I'll tear some shit up. Yes I will. And you will wish I had only said FRIST.
I've got it! BugMan is just trying to make Der Chimperor look polished and eloquent by comparison. It's all so clear to me now.
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Fielding Mellish
Loyal soldier to the end!
I'm proud of that analysis.
Spoken like a deluded, chickenshit moron.
we wanted to give the terrorists therapeutic massage?
VOODOO HAT!!
TAKE THE DICK CHENEY CHALLENGE!!
24 HOURS AT 110 DEGREES, SHACKLED, NO FOOD OR WATER!!
YOU COME OUT SMILING, I VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS!!
TACITUS TITTY POWER
Dick Cheney being rushed to the hospital. Any word on that?
I can't find anything on that.
Should I start looking under "research labs" or something?
Dear li'l bitches. You just don't know.
If you wish to stop a troll, say an ether, toby, or even the troll that dare not speak his name - I have noticed this question will shut them up or force them out- simply ask them “why did bush need/insist cheney be with him at the 9/11 hearings?“. There is something about this junction of lies, incompetence and corrupt duplicity that makes them just implode and scurry off. It has been tried and tested and you can self-verify. let me demonstrate-ether, answer the subject question...
Sounds like he was wording his slurs
“I worked with people who had worked at Gitmo earlier, I worked with people who worked at the primary detention facility in AFG, and I visited that facility many times. I saw detainees (many times on their prayer rugs, other times reading, other times talking when they were not allowed to). I saw the interrogation rooms. I worked with the soldiers and the leaders who ran this place.
“I know those operations fairly well, and I got to know the people who ran those operations — both active duty and reservists. They are normal Americans. They are good decent people who believed in what they were doing. Americans — including Sen. Durbin — can be and should be proud of them.
“Be assured the worst of the worst detainees are the ones at Gitmo. It took a lot of effort to get a detainee shipped over … . They are no victims. … Their victims are most often Afghan villagers who have risked their lives simply to vote or are construction and aid workers from around the world who are assisting Afghanistan to modernize and develop. The detainees at Gitmo are the ringleaders and verified trigger-pullers in these incidents.
“This is serious business with tens and hundreds of thousands of lives at stake. People have already lost lives because we’ve released Gitmo detainees. I read those reports, when they were captured — a second time. I can’t print the words we used in AFG when we found out a soldier died at the hands of a terrorist released from Gitmo. Gitmo didn’t make them want to kill again. Their release allowed them to kill again.”
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/p...70/1100/
OPINION
Why do you seek to counsel those who so obviously hate you?
Why do you hate America?
Should I start looking under "research labs" or something?
Zach Wheat
You tried 'undisclosed medical location'?
Why are you so obsessed with me you keep one of my posts handy to release anytime you see me write anything?
Because it damns you.
Can I get a BOO-YAH?
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Hey Phila. How goes the work?
Eh, not so bad, at this point. I'm done with maybe 95% of the actual text, and about 48% of the copyediting. I hope to be done in the next week.
I even got a vacation day yesterday, thanks to a nasty stomach bug. Believe it or not, vomiting for 18 hours was preferable!
ether's theme song:
http://mp3.spb.su/cgi-bin/mp3sen...eep.mp3?
id=2487
Why do you hate America?
That's soooooo 2002.
It must be sublimely difficult for one Rethug to stumble over paraphrasing another Rethug stumbling over vilifying half of the nation.
Something about "live in infamy"?
C'mon Repukes, you can slander better than this. What's wrong?
Line up for your spankings, my little tools!
If you wish to stop a troll, say an ether, toby, or even the troll that dare not speak his name -
Pun threads work well.
Eli?
Hey dave, I don't click any of your worthless links.
Also, I still haven't seen you make one relevant point.
Only curses, and internet-tough-guy syndrome on idiotic display.
Keep it up...
Shorter dave:
"Fuck you, mother-fuckin coward, chicken-hawk cocksucker."
All this from behind the safety of his monitor and his presumably fat wife.
Why else would he spend so much time on this site?
my little tools
Your little tool's what?
Hi guys --
Look, I'm really sorry, but no
matter what I try I can't seem to
keep my idiot son from coming over
here and advocating a war he's
too chickenshit to volunteer for.
His mom and I are really embarrassed,
but we do have an excuse -- we
recently learned that ether actually
can't hear us.
We go down to the
basement where he's playing Zork
I on some old computer (go figure)
but he's munching on Cheetos and
apparently that makes so much noise
it drowns us out. We could recite
The Druids Curse and he wouldn't
hear us.
(Digression: Here's the
Druids Curse)
May the bleeding piles assail you
From your head down to your feet
May crabs the size of lobsters
Crawl upon your balls and eat
And when you're old and withered
And a syphylitic wreck
May you fall down your own asshole
And break your fucking neck
(end of Druids Curse)
Anyway....if only ether would
return to his original career
goal -- to be a lesbian folk
singer --- all would be well.
Can you help us?
I even got a vacation day yesterday, thanks to a nasty stomach bug. Believe it or not, vomiting for 18 hours was preferable!
Oy, I believe you.
When I get to the end of a project it usually takes me longer to believe it's done than it takes to actually finish it. happy endings!
that sick bastard wouldn't know truth if it kicked him in the balls. which i soon hope it will.
interestingly i was thinking delay reminded me quite a bit of the alcoholic vice principal i mention in the thread below.
now if we could just find a dead fetal pig, cheney?
Phila: My little tool's outlived its fucking usefulness.
IT'S HAMMER TIME!
C'mon, people. The Dean Scream remixes didn't take long.
We need a Tom Delay Remix.
ether, answer the subject question...
why did bush need/insist cheney be with him at the 9/11 hearings?“.
Shorter dave:
"Fuck you, mother-fuckin coward, chicken-hawk cocksucker."
Well, he's got you dead to rights on "coward" and "chicken-hawk."
I'm willing to accept that you may not suck cocks, or fuck your mother.
Still, in the worst-case scenario, Dave's fifty percent right. Which puts him way ahead of you.
ether: 1-800-GOARMY
How can you respect yourself hiding behind Dick Cheney's "everything is rosy in Iraq" skirt? Do you think your kids don't realize you're a chickenhawk wussie?
ether: .
desi, Once again, you're a sweetheart.
Why, if I wasn't single I'd...
Wait a sec, that's not right....
It is interesting on the rationalization provided on torture.
There is a big difference between being in a hot work environment and being stuck in a room with no air moving. At temperatures exceeding 100 degrees, I suspect quite a few people, forced into that situation would at a minimum become ill, some would suffer worse. In terms of dropping the temperature, hyperthermia can set in and it does not require below zero temps to make a critical effect. The body begins compensating for loss of body heat, draining itself in the process. If the shivering is constant, it moves from an annoyance to painful. I suspect that given the rest of the conditions these people are exposed to, the effect is of course traumatic and possibly even life threatening. But our trolls do not want to think of it that way. I would imagine if they were subjected to the same circumstances they would feel a little less favorable.
But ultimately, there is the challenge this presents to who we are and how we have come to think of ourselves. We would scream if our people are subjected to the same treatment, but its ok to relinquish our reputation and our sense of honor as far as they are concern if it is a scuzzy ol furriner.
I wonder how many german prisoners of war immigrated to this country after being sequestered here, how many visited afterwards and how many actually ended up appreciating us? But those days are gone I guess.
Shorter ether: 'I am a chickenhawked chickenshit, and mommy lets me use the computer in her basement while she turns tricks for Tom DeLay.'
When I get to the end of a project it usually takes me longer to believe it's done than it takes to actually finish it. happy endings!
Thersites
You folks must be in academia.
We here in the korporate world know better than to "finish projects" as you so frivolously say.
And that's the twooth Pfft!
Because it damns you.
Thersites | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 12:55 am | #
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Damns me to whom?
Those who already cosider me an "animal" and "moron" strictly because I don't hate Bush with idiotic vitriol?
Oh, no.
If that's torture to you I thank God you idiots aren't in power.
Again, I ask your fragile little heart: what techniques beyond those approved by the administration do you consider applicable considering your expertise?
And also: how do you reconcile being for killing to achieve political ends, but against injuring or coercion to achieve similar ends?
It's a flawed and idiotic position.
That's why I still stand by my analysis of the FBI memo and am PROUD of it every time you post it.
Considering I support qualified torture in extreme circumstances, that quote hardly "damns" me anymore thanthe one I am currently typing out.
You're a feeble willed pussy, just like most liberals.
And the American people verified that in the last election.
The facts speak for themselves.
Ah that was actually me above, minnie is the penname my eccentric aunt uses to post freeper-head-exploding non-sequiturs on Jizbang blog.
I can’t print the words we used in AFG when we found out a soldier died at the hands of a terrorist released from Gitmo.
Bullshit. Indeed, obvious bullshit. You believe any cretin thing you read, don't you?
Smarter monkeys, please.
ether: 1-800-GOARMY
Do you need someone to come over to your mom's basement and dial it for you?
I'm a feeble willed pussy, just like most chickenhawks.
Why else would he spend so much time on this site?
ether
Personally I find it more puzzling when people obsessively visit sites where they're not welcome, in order to start dead-end arguments that they have no ability to win honestly.
But I guess I'm funny that way.
Damns me to whom?
To anyone with a brain or a conscience.
Is cheney in his last throes? Huffpost says he took over a Vail hospital and is in the card unit. White house says just a trick knee.
Anyway check out the michelle magagoogaliaon track back:
"MOONBAT WATCH: WISHING CHENEY ILL from Michelle Malkin
Jeff Quinton sends word that the Huffington Post is reporting from Vail, Colo., on Dick Cheney's alleged hospitalization for heart problems. I wouldn't link have linked directly to the HuffPuffers, but after glancing at the cesspool in the comments sec... "
How does she fit all that hate in that little body?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/th...nto-vail-
h.html
Hey, ether: four female US soldiers died at the hands of Iraqi insurgents today.
Why are we there wasting lives again?
Ignore, I deplore.
The troll's grasping at non-existent straws.
What's new, eh?
You're a feeble willed pussy, just like most liberals.
ether,
I've lived, I believe, close to twice the time you have.
I've met scarce few feeble willed liberals, and no feeble willed pussies.
I'll go all in you haven't met any of the group.
ether: I'll second the motion...
1-800-GOARMY
Another dumb question for the troll. How much information have we obtained from all these "techniques". If I have to buy in on torture I want to see the gain first. I wouldn't buy a car without looking at it and driving it, why should I take a bunch of twits telling me that it is a great deal.
Oh yeah, this is the secretive administration and there is a war on ya know, loose lips and all that rot.
Sorry for asking.
Smarter monkeys, please.
LOL!
We here in the korporate world know better than to "finish projects" as you so frivolously say.
beg pardon.
The verb I was looking for was "abandoned."
Hey ether (you adorable little
sociopath you):
What's your position on the torture
of people wrongfully accused?
See, cause that's the bottom line.
You amoral fuckwad.
Personally I find it more puzzling when people obsessively visit sites where they're not welcome, in order to start dead-end arguments that they have no ability to win honestly.
Sadomasochism seems to be the hot new trend for right-wing joiners.
ether still no response from that philosophy and superior intellect?
see the trolls are capable of great flights of analysis when it comes to Clinton and real politic... but it fails at this simple question. maybe they can't wrap their little pointed heads about this salient concept or maybe they are just hypocritical bull shitting cowards?
ether?
ether?
buellar?
.
Look, I don't have to jsutify my opinions here to anyone. Not one single one of you.
Oh, and methan, you fucktard, I'll take you up on that little prod. I am going to join the army. I will call first thing fucking tomorrow. And I don't want to hear boo about it from any of you from now on.
desi, Once again, you're a sweetheart
[*blushing*]
Vice President Dick Cheney was taken to the cardiac unit of the Vail
Valley Medical Center Friday. Contrary to Associated Press reports that
he went to see orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Steadman, at the Steadman Hawkins
clinic for a knee injury, Vice President Cheney passed through the
Steadman Hawkins clinic and the Colorado Mountain Medical Center to get
to the cardiac unit to see Dr. Jack Eck and his team. The Vice President
checked into the hospital under the name of Dr. Hoffman.
Posted June 24, 2005 10:06 PM
Huffington Post, link above
You're a feeble willed pussy, just like most liberals.
And the American people verified that in the last election.
The facts speak for themselves.
ether | 06.25.05 - 1:04 am | #
Sixty percent of the American public
now disapprove of this war.
What are you going to do when
the number goes up?
Elect a new American people?
I am going to join the army. I will call first thing fucking tomorrow. And I don't want to hear boo about it from any of you from now on.
What makes you think the US Army wants you, ether?
And who will man the deep fryer?
You folks must be in academia.
We here in the korporate world know better than to "finish projects" as you so frivolously say.
What kind of lucky korporate world are you in?
I don't have to jsutify my opinions here to anyone. Not one single one of you.
You cannot defend the indifensible.
You support torture.
That damns you.
TORTURE
The bottom line is, now that they have admitted it, the bush administration has violated the Geneva convention, and in doing so they are guilty of treason.
Hauge, bitches.
Because it damns you.
Thersites
Apparently, the drooler is too stupid to understand the distinction between obsession and the ability to recall a statement so jaw-droppingly stupid that it forever condemns the author to a well-deserved oblivion. You jumped the shark, ether. You been discredited, not only in this thread, but in every thread you try to foul in the future.
Hubris is a motherfucker.
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ether
Actually you do have to justify them. Otherwise there is no point in you coming here and tossing your drek.That is called conversation, you submit and receive. No one has to accept your tripe, they have the right to respond in the negative and the funny part, they justify their positions. Talk about a surrender monkey.
And who will man the deep fryer?
Ether: Lord of the Fries.
He's clearly drunk. Irregular speech pacing gives it away.
Says "indict" very quickly, but stumbles over other words by repeating. Clearly drunk.
Is that nervous laughter after his jokes?
Oh, and methan, you fucktard, I'll take you up on that little prod. I am going to join the army. I will call first thing fucking tomorrow. And I don't want to hear boo about it from any of you from now on.
Whoohooo!!! Ether's signin' up.
I'll buy you some body armor when you deploy.
What kind of lucky korporate world are you in?
desi
One of the only milieu outside of politics where the seller defines a finished project.
Computer consulting.
Hi...I'm somewhat new here.
Who is the "troll who shall not be named?"
Nicely said, Mellish.
Hope you're feeling okay....
I wonder why troglodytes like ether never acknowledge the fact that scores of detainees/abuse victims were released, because they hadn't done anything wrong.
That sort of undercuts the "coddling people who hate us" argument.
We love the Iraqis enough to give our children's lives to "free" them, and we hate 'em so much that we'll abuse 'em and say they deserved it. Just another day in Wingnuttia, I guess.
four female US soldiers died at the hands of Iraqi insurgents today.
Weren't they Liberals, too? Why does Karl Rove hate our troops so?
tipsy was my read
flory
Maybe Duncan can set up a place for us to chip in. And if Ether doesn't sign up, at least we can get some troop out there proper protection.
Is that nervous laughter after his jokes?
F'in Librul
No. Delay only evinces nervous laughter on election day.
"Oh, and did I break the Frist rule?"
Roxanne
Good Evening Moonbats!
Way late in the thread for this, but if you're still here, and no one else has answered yet.
Roxanne, err... It's not really a rule, last I heard the 'rule' was, if you're the first poster you're supposed to say FUCK BUSH!
But the way things change around here, who knows. LOL
I'll buy you some body armor when you deploy.
flory, you're a better person than I am.
Maybe Duncan can set up a place for us to chip in. And if Ether doesn't sign up, at least we can get some troop out there proper protection.
EkCenTriK
I'll kick in the first $50.
Apparently, the drooler is too stupid to understand the distinction between obsession and the ability to recall a statement so jaw-droppingly stupid that it forever condemns the author to a well-deserved oblivion.
It's stupid, but also morally depraved. It's probably the quintessential troll post -- everything one would ever want to know about the right, actually. They support torture.
*whistles*
*trolls for sex*
I'll kick in the first $50.
flory
I'm in for that.
I'll do the second 50.
Why do you seek to counsel those who so obviously hate you?
Hey, moron - use English much? Or do you just take cues from your idiot "American Idol?" The word you were striving for was console. Keep trying to disassemble, though. Chimpy will be so proud.
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I'll buy you some body armor when you deploy.
flory, you're a better person than I am.
Central Scrutinizer
Workin' the odds, CS. What do you think the chances are he actually signs up?
Methinks it was the cheap beer talking.
this comment was in a nyt ltte in response to bob herbert's column about the draft.
i find his claim amazing -- does anyone know where to verify?
"The Army is made up of men and women who join to be part of something greater than themselves, to improve themselves and the plight of others. That's who is fighting today, and they are voluntarily re-enlisting in record numbers.
(Brig. Gen.) Vincent K. Brooks
Chief of Public Affairs, U.S. Army
Washington, June 23, 2005
Delay transcript:
Wednesday night Karl Row said and I quote, conservatives saw the sava-sav-sav-savagery of the 9/11 Aflac d-d-d-duck and pre-prepared for war. Libruls saw the sav-sav-sav-savagery of 9/11 and tried to raise your attackers-Texas-t-t-t-t-taxes.
That's not a singapore swing, that's the twoof!
Considering I support qualified torture...
...as long as someone else is doing it and I don't have to suffer the blowback.
BRAAAAAAAWWWWWKKKK!!! BRAAAAAAAWWWWWKKKK!!! Cluck cluck cluck...
*has sex with ether*
ewww....grimy.....
Go do your marketing online, miss a whole line of conversation. Bah.
OT- great post on "Chickenhawks in Action" up at Kos.
What do you think the chances are he actually signs up?
Methinks it was the cheap beer talking.
I'll take "What is lead poisoning from eating paint chips" for a thousand, flory.
I wonder why troglodytes like ether never acknowledge the fact that scores of detainees/abuse victims were released, because they hadn't done anything wrong.
Or the corollary, that if they really are dangerous terrorists, why release them?
And he is too stupid to realize that if that ridiculous article he quoted and excerpted above about released Gitmo prisoners were true -- which it isn't; it's actually kind of comical -- THAT would be evidence of colossal incompetence on the part of the administration!
This is strange
Tried to DL the Klien thing and gave up.
Just did the Shitfaced Tom thing, and heard them both at the same time!
some Conason kicking Kliens ass then Delay then Klein, then the phone rings and I had everything turned up max from when the first time it didn't work!
Melissa:
"why is the TV so loud?"
.
Yo, brownshirts - YOU broke it - YOU fix it!
I wish the Rethug flag wavers would set aside one fucking minute this July 4 and reflect, *seriously*, on the fact that their movement is the most damaging political force to the core principles of this nation surely since the Civil War, and arguably since its inception.
But go ahead and have yer beer with Shrub.
bkny
I know of several kids from their families that have come back and volunteered to return. I suspect the reasons are not what the Whitehouse would like to boast about. They seem to be going back for their fellow soldier, not for the great cause. But my impression is based on a very limited number of people so it may be incorrect.
ether, still no answer why? ether i have always been above board with you. i have never attacked your person- why do you do me this disservice of feigned ignorance. (still waiting amidst the whirlwind of searching rove quotes and cheetos bags' bags)just explain why bush needed/insisted cheney appear with him at the 9/11 hearings...
They all seem to have trouble with the word 'savagery.' Even if you check the audio of the Rove quote, he stumbled over it.
Or maybe KKKarl was shitfaced, too.
ether doesn't need donated armor. spurious george loves his troops and makes sure they're properly equipped. and we have god on our side.
they are voluntarily re-enlisting in record numbers.
What's the problem?
Record low numbers, right?
and they are voluntarily re-enlisting in record numbers.
Way I heard the story, the battalion out of Ft Carson was given the choice of re-upping or going to Iraq the next week.
'Voluntary' has its own meaning in the Army.
Jesus, whatever that guy's on, no thanks.
And I'll tell the kids to stay away from that dude's house on Halloween, too - not even to TP his trees.
they are voluntarily re-enlisting in record numbers.
It might depend on the definition of "voluntary." Might be true. Sounds like spin in the face of bad enlistment numbers, though.
Nothing worse than a sloppy drunk.
I'll take "What is lead poisoning from eating paint chips" for a thousand, flory.
Central Scrutinizer
Also a reasonable supposition.
Dad - if you're reading this and wanted to throw up a Paypal link for the "Ether or Others Body Armor Fund" - I will toss in the first $50.
I suspect the reasons are not what the Whitehouse would like to boast about. They seem to be going back for their fellow soldier, not for the great cause.
A few years back I asked a friend who served in Viet Nam (Communications!) why he re-upped for a second tour.
His answer?
"Because I'd seen so much shit I didn't fucking care anymore."
they are voluntarily re-enlisting in record numbers.
Well, it can only be from fealty to their fellow soldiers, or dire economic alternatives.
It is most certainly not because of Donald Rumsfeld. That ghoul is loathed in both the enlisted ranks and the officer's corps.
"The Vice President
checked into the hospital under the name of Dr. Hoffman."
Wasn't that the name of the ol' Nazi Dr. in Marathon man? Nah, I guess I'm just confusing it because Dustin Hoffman was in that film.
But it all sorta fits in a weird way dunnit?
flory
Does your Dad actually read this?
(trying to make up for previous sarcasm)
But really.
.
But it all sorta fits in a weird way dunnit?
Is it safe?
"The Vice President
checked into the hospital under the name of Dr. Hoffman."
The face sheet I saw said "H. Lector".
see...troll gone. the truth is like their cryptonite
"Who is the "troll who shall not be named?"
Steffrin Hat
You'll know him when you see him... Trust me.
ether doesn't need donated armor
You go to war with the ether you got.
Hmmm...on second thought, we should rethink this whole "sign 'em up" notion.
I want the troops home as safely as possible.
DeLay? Hitting the juice? Tom DeLay?
Naw. He gave that up for Jesus. And if you can't trust Tom DeLay, well...
Of course he did mention that Houston and Iraq are on par safety-wise. Maybe he is cuddling the Bud again.
Hey...I did quickie cat and crack blogging a little while ago. Love seeing everyone's kitties, bears, dogs, nudibranches, and fish.
Does your Dad actually read this?
agave:
'Dad' is sallyh's reference for Atrios.
No need for make-ups. We all have shitty days.
Olbermann played a clip of him "defending" Rove, I was listening to it on XM, and I swear to god, I looked at the radio and said, ARE YOU DRUNK?
cluck cluck cluck I want to be a politician. I'd like to survive to see that cluck cluck cluck As long as there's a steady stream of volunteers, I don't see why I necessarily should volunteer cluck cluck cluck If there was a need presented, I would go cluck cluck cluck We don't have to be there physically to fight it cluck cluck cluck I support qualified torture in extreme circumstances cluck cluck cluck I physically probably couldn't do a whole lot in Iraq I think I could do more here cluck cluck cluck Why do you hate America? cluck cluck cluck...
(Apologies to res ipsa loquitor...)
"Maybe Duncan can set up a place for us to chip in. And if Ether doesn't sign up, at least we can get some troop out there proper protection."
EkCenTriK
I think that's an EXCELLENT idea!
delay sounds drugged to me. did he meet with pill-popping gasbag earlier?
dave--who's sponsoring this segment?
Hmmm...on second thought, we should rethink this whole "sign 'em up" notion.
Uncle Smokes - any of our trolls sign up, they'll spend their tour clerking in Kansas.
Nothing worse than a sloppy drunk.
CAGary
Yes, actually there is - a sloppy drunk former exterminator with a permanent smirk on his face who resides in Texas and professes to be a guardian of so-called "family values"
My F5 key is worn down to a numb.
Really tho, Keys I use at work are all shiney, like wood that has been rubbed on alot.
You might want to write that down.
.
The Vice President
checked into the hospital under the name of Dr. Hoffman
Patient, 64 y/o white male, presented with no discernible pulse nor soul.
Radiogram indicated large hollow cavity in upper left thoracic region.
EMT's report pt. mumbling about underground societies in case Brezhnev launches.
I can't stand degenerate alcoholics.
What do you think the chances are he actually signs up?
The real troll miracle will occur when he manages to continue infesting threads while undergoing "basic training" despite the fact that new recruits barely have enough time to think unsupervised thoughts for 10 minutes in a row.
Win-win situation. Either he really enlists and haunts us no more or he proves himself even more of a pusillanimous stinkweed by proving that his glorious proclamation was just another wingnut lie.
See, ether, this is another one of those moments that is so memorable that recalling it is easy. If we bring it up in a month, we are not obsessing - we're just once again calling you on your bullshit.
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I can't stand degenerate alcoholics.
Yeah we know you hate yourself, so Fuck Off.
Either he really enlists and haunts us no more or he proves himself even more of a pusillanimous stinkweed by proving that his glorious proclamation was just another wingnut lie.
It'll all be blamed on the "namestealer"...
Rose
1. There is a Claude TX?
2. We have biggers cracks in the streets here in S.A.
However, they usually finish crossing the street and we can be on our way.
3. Wild water, the brand favorite of cats everywhere. This also includes your beverage whenever you look in another direction. I gave up worrying about Kitty germs long ago. (The distemper shots hurt like hell though)
...who's sponsoring this segment?
I think you know!
DeLay looks exhausted. Too many fires to put out, too many people to browbeat. He's not getting much sleep these days.
Well, when you lie down with dogs...the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.
EMT's report pt. mumbling about underground societies in case Brezhnev launches.
Zach Wheat
EKG indicated no measurable cerebral activity.
Unusual dentition at bicuspids 3 and 4.
Ether troll is as likely to enlist as trollboy.
TORTURE!
"Is it safe?"
Central Scrutinizer
Is what safe?!
2. We have biggers cracks in the streets here in S.A.
EkCenTriK
How much is street crack up your way?
Cherry pie a la mode, anyone?
Zach Wheat
Hey it is hard enough to avoid seeing them when they are crossing the street away from me! And you expect me to guess their poundage. No humanity.
Cherry pie a la mode, anyone?
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Yes, please.
dave--all right!
Go see Cal! Go see Cal! Go see Cal!
Oh.
Thanks flory
Mommy?
Ek - yeah, Claude. Who knew? Like some old cowboy up and died on the trail and folks built a town around the carcass and named it after him.
Cherry pie a la mode, anyone?
Thanks Sallyh,
A double helping for me, thank you. No coffee though, I've got to turn in soon.
Who says the Army would take Ether?
EMT's report pt. mumbling about underground societies in case Brezhnev launches.
Zach Wheat
EKG indicated no measurable cerebral activity.
Unusual dentition at bicuspids 3 and 4.
Hmm. Best be sticking a feeding tube in him.
Who says the Army would take Ether?
Target practice?
Rose
Well, it might be a case of the plates slipping away from each other ....or
It is the first visible act by the secessionists to remove Texas from the union.
Cheney is back to WWII comparisons again for Iraq.
Sally coming in here with cherry pie for everybody.
You're a good soul, Sallyh.
Hey, ether has a webcam!!
Who knew?
I can't stand degenerate alcoholics.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 1:45 am | #
Oh, just stop.
Like we're supposed to support
you for your courageous stand?
What is your friggin' problem?
"Yes, actually there is - a sloppy drunk former exterminator with a permanent smirk on his face who resides in Texas and professes to be a guardian of so-called "family values""
I stand corrected. 
Zach--you're very kind. I actually did make a cherry pie earlier on; the produce farm near my house had flats of Bings for $8, and they are pleasantly tart.
Cherry pie a la mode, anyone?
Thanks, Sally! I love you.
Sally
Ether has an excellent opportunity in the Army as a character example. This is a right and proper soldier, this (pointing at Ether) is not. When the orientation class is over, they put in a closet for storage until the next wave of recruits show up. A hot, unventilated closet.
I'm so bummed that I'm gonna miss Satan Inspired Tornado blogging tomorrow night. 
When ya'll comment, could you think of me?
"I can't stand degenerate alcoholics."
Not all alcoholics are degenerates, and not all degenerates are alcoholics.
Alcoholism's a disease, just in case anyone thinks otherwise.
Chris, Sir
That was barbaric. I thought you were a good guy.
Sally,
We have a wonderful farmer's market several miles away, in full blossom right now. Ohhh, Silver Queen.
It's like pretending that suburbia never happened.
For a minute or two, anyway.
Who says the Army would take Ether?
Target practice?
Central Scrutinizer
Dammit, CS - that was really good champagne all over my laptop!!!!
Like some old cowboy up and died on the trail and folks built a town around the carcass and named it after him.
Odd, I was having an email exchange earlier--a friend asked about the name of another Texas town, White Settlement.
http://www.ci.white-settlement.tx.us
Indeed, that's what it was, and still mostly is.
http://whitesettlement.areaconne.../
statistics.htm
Now, how did Toad Suck, Arkansas get its name?
Central--to paraphrase a line from Catch-22, I shall yearn for you tragically.
Ordinarily, in a civilized situation, I'd say it would be out of bounds to describe DeLay as a drunk, so long as he was able to do his job.
But since they haven't acted in a civil fashion since they took the majority in the House, I say its long past due that we take off the gloves and HIT THEM WITH THE FUCKING CHAIR.
They don't hesitate to use everything and anything against the Dems. Shit they just make shit up half the time and the wilfully ignorant majority lap it up. Now they're making the most vile allegations against us, accusing us for being disloyal for being RIGHT about Iraq.
If DeLay's a drunk we should use it against him as much as possible.
Chris, Sir
That was barbaric. I thought you were a good guy.
EkCenTriK
Second. All in favor say 'aye'.
Alcoholism's a disease, just in case anyone thinks otherwise.
Learned behaviour.
Polio is a disease.
Ladies and gentlemen, you're in the middle of another Kick the Shit Out of the Motherfucking Cowardly Moronic Brownshirt Fucks Million-Dollar Weekend!
Brought to you by your good friend Cal Worthington!
And now, back to Wolfman Jack!
Zach--here, still in the city of LA proper, we've got a wonderful farm less than a mile from my house. They grow the most wonderful strawberries, cherries, corn, tomatoes, onions and green beans. I've been going there since I moved to this area in 1986 (the farm was over 60 years old even then), and it's so nice not to have to settle for supermarket produce. The watermelons late in summer are to die for.
I can't stand degenerate alcoholics.
I don't like you when you drink!
I don't like you either when I drink!
I'm too to drunk too understand degenerate.
I'll goggle it.
.
aye!
When ya'll comment, could you think of me?
Central Scrutinizer
Lemme get this straight - you want us to think of you when Satan is wreaking destruction on the innocent Hot Science Babe?
Well, ok.......
I can't stand degenerate alcoholics.
Toby Petzold
Shaddup and put the damn little red ridin' hood costume, on, already! *hic*
Actually, I've never known quite what to make of old Tobs. He'll exhibit streaks of decency and then launch into a few rousing bars of "Democracy Uber Alles."
I have no idea what would make a guy that's so often in agreement with us troll Eschaton.
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Central--I'm not sure. I think learned behavior is a part of it, but my daughter suffers from it, and her father and I do not. We've always been very light drinkers, so she didn't learn it here.
Central--to paraphrase a line from Catch-22, I shall yearn for you tragically.
Ah, the story of my life.
You know, as much as I detest
Toby "Mohammedan Menace" Petzold:
Did he really say
"I can't stand degenerate alcoholics.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 06.25
5 - 1:45 am | #
That just seems stupid even by his
standards.
If DeLay's a drunk we should use it against him as much as possible.
The Old Man From Scene 24
I agree Old Man, since he's not taken any steps to handle it, but what about Shrub? I think he still takes a pull off of his secret Jack Daniels stash.
Now, how did Toad Suck, Arkansas get its name?
and french lick is located in a red state? Irony?
VAIL -- Why is the White House still insisting that the only health issue Vice President Cheney dealt with today is an old football injury to his knee, visiting renowned orthopedist Dr. Richard Steadman? At the Vail Valley Institute dinner tonight, I kept asking what those in the know here knew. Little by little, here is the story I pieced together: After the Secret Service secured the Vail Valley Medical Center, including the parking lot, the Vice President arrived under his own power and checked in at the orthopedic center under the name “Dr. Hoffman”. He was immediately whisked to the adjacent cardiac unit, suffering from what was described to me as “an angina attack”. The security was so high that a Secret Service agent wouldn’t let an ER nurse out of the bathroom that she had gone into just before the Veep arrived. “Get back in there,” the agent told her. Confounded, she called her husband on her cell phone, telling him “something big” was going on. And indeed it was… but you wouldn’t know it from the White House. It appears that not only doesn’t the public deserve to know what is really going on in Iraq (“last throes”?) we don’t deserve to know what is going on with our Vice President’s health.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com
Central--to paraphrase a line from Catch-22, I shall yearn for you tragically.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 2:01 am | #
Hey hey hey:
That's my line, damnit!!!!!
We must miss the satan tornadoes as well. Phooey.
Night, all.
Lemme get this straight - you want us to think of you when Satan is wreaking destruction on the innocent Hot Science Babe?
Works for me!
Steve--well, have you yearned for me tragically?
Alcoholism's a disease, just in case anyone thinks otherwise.
Learned behaviour.
Polio is a disease.
My grandfather was an alcoholic. He learned it after he was released from the VA hospital addicted to pain killers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholism
Sallyh:
Well, it was either you or
Yossarian!!
Probably you.
BTB: Read CATCH 22 lately?
I'd really like to, but I'm afraid
I'd be let down.
You know -- since it was the
book that changed my life,
cliche as that is.
Is cheney in his last throes? Huffpost says he took over a Vail hospital and is in the card unit.
When a man's an empty kettle
He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart
Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be kind-a human
If I only had a heart.
I'd be tender
I'd be gentle
And awful sentimental
Regarding love and art
I'd be friends with the sparrows
And the boy who shoots the arrows
If I only had a heart
Picture me
A balcony
Above a voice sings low
Where for art thou, Romeo?
I hear a beat
How sweet
Just to register emotion
Jealousy, devotion
And really feel the part
I could stay young and chipper
And I'd lock it with a zipper
If I only had a heart
We seem to have acquired a whole pack of cats in the last few minutes. Maybe they like Bogart films.
You really should go see the clip on that same site with the Delay clip of Katrina vanden Heuvel put the smackdown on the slimeball editor of the Weekly Standard. It was great. Truth over lies.
http://www.dembloggers.com/story...6/24/17380/
9980
I think he still takes a pull off of his secret Jack Daniels stash.
I bet he does too. All those facial bruses aren't just from repeatedly falling off bikes or the "foolproof" Segway.
However he has acted like an ignorant, inarticulate fool since long before five Supreme Court Justices appointed him to occupy the Oval Office, so it will be hard to prove that he is drunk as opposed to being his regular asshole self.
Lemme get this straight - you want us to think of you when Satan is wreaking destruction on the innocent Hot Science Babe?
Works for me!
Central Scrutinizer
I knew that.
Could it be.....SATANNNnnnn??!
I understand the Republican party has consulted in the past with Bush on what to do if Cheney ceases to be V.P. The problem is when they interview potential candidates, they test them by making them read a typical series of Cheney statements. So far, none have survived , either gagging or choking to death before they finish the provided text.
Central--thinking of you will be easy. Science Babe on Science Babe action has no allure in these parts
Alcoholism's a disease, just in case anyone thinks otherwise.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Not to get too serious, well yeah.
It's genetic, as in you can be predisposed to it.
Is addiction in general a disease?
.
The stuff that dreams are made of.
"I bet he does too. All those facial bruses aren't just from repeatedly falling off bikes or the "foolproof" Segway."
I haven't seen anyone with that many petechiae in his face that wasn't drinking, and heavily.
Overheard at a recent DC traffic stop:
Trooper: "Mr. Speaker, you seemed to be weaving a little bit. Could you step out of the golf cart?"
Bugman: "Honeshest to drunk, offisher, I'm not God. Oh wait, yes I am. Do you.. *hic* do you know that the EPA is sucking out our precussh body fluids..?" (passes out)
Trooper: "Christ, not again. That stupid Schiavo case."
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Tornadosquito?
Is that even remotely possible?
Damn, we need Merkin Patriot.
CONTACT YOUR REPREHENTATIVE!
"Is addiction in general a disease?"
Considered to be by the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Psychiatric Association.
You know -- since it was the
book that changed my life,
cliche as that is.
steve simels
The Ramones have something new!
speaking of
changed my life
.
Let's not forget Colin Powell and what he said about Ambien:
http://www.thismodernworld.com/
w..._09.html#001216
agave:
which ramones album was that?
Reason I ask is (I'm obviously'
older than you) but I didn't get
the Ramones till after they went
pop.
We seem to have acquired a whole pack of cats in the last few minutes. Maybe they like Bogart films.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Cool cats have always loved Bogart films. Fun to see him portray the original Commander Cuckoo Bananas earlier this evening.
BTW, I realize that my earlier comments might have been offensive to the many people who have suffered from the very real tragedy of alcoholism. I apologize for resorting to easy "Foster Brooks" style comedic comments.
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Hey, guys, don't blame me!
I stole the idea from Zach Wheat!
Matt Taibbi is on fire:
Uncle Sam Wants YOU to Die for a Lie
Considered to be by the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association, and the American Psychiatric Association.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Yeah, but...
OK
.
disease (an impairment of health or a condition of abnormal functioning)
That takes in alot
.
?????
"I knew something was missing!"
But I'm the bombardier!
yeah. i'd say that the hammer is pretty hammered right there. i really hope the daily show runs that clip.
"The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he's on."
It's looking like a great week for sports in Texas. Can't wait to see my Longhorns in the World Series tomorrow.
Hook 'em.
One of those movie quotes that fires me up (just now on TCM):
"Don't call me son. I'm a lawyer and an officer in the United States Navy. And you're under arrest, you son of a bitch."
Someday, my moonbatty mates, someday..
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Hey, guys, don't blame me!
I stole the idea from Zach Wheat!
Chris Tucker
But joycamp took it to a sublime level.
College World Series, that is.
Mellish--no offense taken at all.
How're you hanging? Tomorrow night's Scifi Saturday Night is dedicated to Heather. Wherever she is, I hope she's got satellite.
IT'S HAMMERED TIME!! Maybe they should just keep the Bugman stoned, that way he can act as a translator at Bush's next speech
steve, go ahead and read catch-22 again. i've read it at least 5 times and never been disappointed.
What IS up with Haloscan tonight.
I've never had this much trouble.
Saw on the comments on that site about dick Dick Cheney being rushed to the hospital. Any word on that?
Jebus. I hope they keep the doors to the maternity ward locked.
Thersites | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 12:40 am | #
Ha ha ha ha ha Funny stuff!!
Goddamned people calling me on my fucking phone like they have some kind of right to call me this late....... (Grumble grumble...)
Where the hell were we?
Toby:
I'm originally from Lubbock, Texas, where I was taught that you are my sworn enemy.
Zack
Chris
I have sworn off ever clicking a link y'all provide.
Period.
It's looking like a great week for sports in Texas. Can't wait to see my Longhorns in the World Series tomorrow.
Hook 'em.
Toby Petzold
Ah! So you are evil personified! I am a Husker fan. Actually, I liked the Longhorns even when I was a tyke and got to like them even more from living down in Killeen for 3 years. Austin is amazing. The rest of Tejas, not so much.
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America is a disease with the symptom of a lot of alcoholics.
steve, go ahead and read catch-22 again. i've read it at least 5 times and never
been disappointed.
Olaf glad and big | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 2:34 am | #
Good to hear it....thanks, guy.
O-)
But joycamp took it to a sublime level.
Zach Wheat
I'm confused.
I thought the conventional wisdom was that trolls spent their time in front of the 'puter...er, stroking the wood - so to speak....
How the hell could that guy even find it?
"Where the hell were we?"
Central Scrutinizer
Is it safe?
Where the hell were we?
1) Alcoholism is a disease officially, but some differ.
2) We should not make fun of drunks in general, but mean old bastards who might be drunks are fair game.
3) We should all read Catch-22.
4) The trolls have gone beddy-bye.
"How the hell could that guy even find it?
flory"
GPS tracking system obviously. Hooked into MS Trips and Streets. Oh and a small bell.
Toby:
Leave now.
Seriously.
you know, i just looked at that clip again i noticed something else kind of odd. after the hammered says "conservatives prepared for war", everyone in the room started laughing.
Night, gentle bats. I've left the rest of the cherry pie on the counter--last person to grab a slice, don't forget to cover it up--attracts ants if you don't. Oh, and please don't forget to put the ice cream in the freezer
Chris Tucker, ye gods man!
GPS tracking system obviously. Hooked into MS Trips and Streets. Oh and a small bell.
EkCenTriK
Yikes!! Networked troll 'nads...
And its a *very* small bell!
Sweet dreams, Mme Sally.
Mellish:
He's all about fake empathy.
That's all I'm gonna say....
Night sallyh - sweet dreams.
Tomorrow night's Scifi Saturday Night is dedicated to Heather. Wherever she is, I hope she's got satellite.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
No Fox channels there. I've already told my sister and brother-in-law (more like a real brother, and a mostly lurker) about tomorrow, and they will be joining us on the big couch tomorrow. Please make a few extra brownies. I can only hope that this will be as bad/good as Mansquito or the 40-foot mummy.
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Fielding:
Austin is amazing. The rest of Tejas, not so much.
Yeah. They call us Berkeley-on-the-Colorado. Someone does, anyway.
Were you stationed at Hood? If so, thanks.
Smokes:
I'm originally from Lubbock, Texas, where I was taught that you are my sworn enemy.
Heh, heh. But y'alls sports program is making great strides. Rave on.
I couldn't get the vid to work, but listened to the audio, and I can assure everyone here that the Bugman was snockered, blotto, wasted and high. Might be caused by some meds, but the slurring and over-careful pronunciations sure sound like the booze to me.
Usually I find it sad when someone who has stopped drinking falls off the temperance wagon, no matter what means they used to get sober. But I'm hoping Jesus is busy somewhere else, maybe saving rape victims in Darfur, or giving water and hope to exploited sweat shop workers when Tom wakes up with the hangover to end all hangovers. Every single day until he goes down to meet his Master, Satan.
Man, I sure wish Richard Morrison was still in the race for TX-22. He worked so hard, really took some hits for doing so, and now that the Bugman is reeling, it would be fitting to see Morrison win the election down there.
Have set the Tivo to record Al tonight, have company coming to morrow, and if the take-down of Klien is half as good as I read today, well, we'll have to open one of those _good_ bottles of vino.
steve simels
Older than me?
I'll start writing your euology!
.
Not which albumn
Road to Ruin is my Fav
But
I read, I don't know where, that Johnny had put together, before he died (didn't even know) a collection of songs for his 'best of', and it has been released on CD.
Confirm Please.
.
Nite Sally
Did you say put the ice cream in the freezer or was it put the ferrets on ice? I have to scroll back now dang.
Its late.
If you open the fridge and see a couple of frosted weasels staring back, well, things happen.
Is it safe?
DeepThought_42
Yes I believe so. (takes a quick look)
1) Alcoholism is a disease officially, but some differ.
Yes, but I'm too drunk to supply the supporting evidence right now.
2) We should not make fun of drunks in general, but mean old bastards who might be drunks are fair game.
Good, good...
3) We should all read Catch-22.
Again.
4) The trolls have gone beddy-bye.
Thank Jeebus for small miracles, and may they choke on their w doll's penis, never to awaken.
(Sorry, that last one was a little harsh.)
The only reason I would ever move back to Texas would be to live in Austin.
The music scene is fantastic.
Were you stationed at Hood? If so, thanks.
Toby Petzold
TDY wearing BDUs many times, and a civilian contractor during the period aforementioned. We made sure the Army's automated intelligence systems were up to snuff. I hope it's helping them now.
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I'm watching this Lauer-Cruise interview and it's just weird. Cruise looks like he needs to sleep it off.
If you open the fridge and see a couple of frosted weasels staring back, well, things happen.
EkCenTriK
Athenae has put a MAJOR hex on you.....
Pissing off the goddesses is *not* a smart move.....
(Sorry, that last one was a little harsh.)
Central Scrutinizer
Not really.
Fuck off, Toby.
Seriously.
Trolls never seem to understand that all they're doing is serving up batting practice while we hone our talking points. What better way to sharpen the rhetoric than to go head-to-head with the rank-and-file Goopers?
And how pathetic is the little "ether" troll? Either he's lying about enlisting, or he's being driven to enlist by left-wing websites. Either way, pretty fucking lame.
G'night to all you real people.
Love you all.
Very good, Fielding.
Well...I've gotta go to bed.
Thank you all for helping me feel less disconnected here in Sioux Falls, South Dakota (which is Lubbock, Texas 20 years ago).
A few snarks, a few quotations, a smattering of Wiki look-ups, and a satisfying troll feast.
Plus I went to Sally's website for the first time, and I'm suddenly hungry--ImPEACHment Crisp with Nuts looks mighty tasty!
Good night.
"That's not slander, that's the tooth."
What the Central Scrutinizer said.
Toby Petzold, you signed up yet?
jk47:
Trolls never seem to understand that all they're doing is serving up batting practice while we hone our talking points. What better way to sharpen the rhetoric than to go head-to-head with the rank-and-file Goopers?
Sounds like your logic has gone soft, man. If your correspondents are too stupid to handle you, how do you figure you're honing anything?
Oh, and quit mixing your metaphors.
I'm watching this Lauer-Cruise interview and it's just weird. Cruise looks like he needs to sleep it off.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 2:54 am | #
The dude is seriously imbalanced, and what's worse he's a scientology true believer and won't have it checked out.
Frankly he's behaving so weirdly as of late, I'm surprised the Scientology public relations dudes haven't tried to regn him in.
No, Pince. Did some namestealer claim "I" was off to the recruiters?
That's one goddamn hell of a mother fucking note: Me, a gay guy, that you're stinking ass party prevents me, and those like from having equal rights, served in the first Gulf War, was shot at, and your sorry hetero ass is too much of a coward to back up your words for this Iraq war is all for.
HOW FUCKING FUCKED UP IS THAT YOU WORTHLESS SACK OF SHIT?!
I've never paid any attention to this Scientology crap, but the lack of dignity in its origins is enough to keep it out of my home.
Although I do like Cruise's anger at this overmedicated society.
Oh, and please don't forget to put the ice cream in the freezer
Sallyh
What ice cream? (licking fingers).
Nite, gentle Sally. See you tomorrow.
All you guys harshing on Toby - I know he can, and probably will, go "hyde" on us in the near future, but for now, I'd just request that you reserve the condemnation for then. I guess I just feel a little sad, and wistful, and am pretty much in the "can't we just get along" mode this late at night.
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GET YOU SORRY SACK OF SHIT ASS DOWN THERE AND ENLIST YOU SORRY COWARD!! I DON'T HAVE ANY GODDAMN RIGHTS IN THIS COUNTRY BUT I STILL RISKED MY LIFE FOR IT!! WHAT'S YOUR GODDAMN EXCUSE YOU FUCKING COWARD??
I'm not following this. Is Pince screaming at me?
Can't wait to see my Longhorns in the World Series tomorrow.
Bevo wants you to head down to Dobie Mall and enlist, you chickenhawk MOFO.
YOU STINKING ASS COWARD. YOU SORRY STINKING ASS COWARD.
I actually don't like posting here and taking all of your abuse, but Mom is a real big Bush supporter, and she makes me post here every time she catches me masturbating.
GET YOU STINKING ASS DOWN THERE IN ENLIST!!
Frankly, thre 9-11 widow as a whore thing mitigates heavily against Toby, but the vacating the thread where someone's daughter had just died mitigates for him.
At least he's not Avestus, who along with being an advocate (in every sence of the word) for torture and death squads, thinks that liberals or Democrats are so sub-human that they do't deserve common human compassion.
Wow, to live in that world.
Pince, are you IMing someone and keep typing in the wrong window?
Ô¿Ô thank you for hitting the trool on the head.
I still remember the early days of the womens/glbt liberation in DC, so many deeply closeted people working in the highest levels of our government, doing great work, and yet always fearful that they would be exposed, lose their job, their security clearances, even their children.
Toby Petzold, you signed up yet?
Nah. He's too scared to go.
The war is important alright, just not important enough for Toby to put his pasty white ass on the line.
I guess I just feel a little sad, and wistful, and am pretty much in the "can't we just get along" mode this late at night.
Nice sentiment, but Toby's schtick makes me think of the Nazi in "Saving Private Ryan" that whispered "Shhh.. shhh... shhhhhh... while he shoved the knife through the guys guts.
Remember that Toby? I'll bet you do.
Really something else. Women are dying there. They have courage but look at the typical wingnut hetero male. How pathetic.
Who are you calling "Pince?"
That might help.
I guess I just feel a little sad, and wistful, and am pretty much in the "can't we just get along" mode this late at night.
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Fielding Mellish
That's a sentiment I'm always willing to applaud. And yet, Toby is a moral nihilist and an apologist for torture. I can't really get along with someone who espouses a position that's the precise opposite of what I consider moral and just. I'd lose way more than he'd get out of it.
Carp, I said that Mrs. Breitweiser is a 9/11 prostitute ---not a whore. She is using her husband's memory like lots of other women have through History to get ahead in the game herself.
In this case, I have a big problem with her as an ideologue. She went and spoke to the DNC, if I recall correctly, and she was just being used.
Ô¿Ô
You're CAPS key is on.
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ah - the Klein sessin is about to begin on Al/s sundance show...
Ô¿Ô = Pince.
Doesn't it look like a guy wearing some pince-nez glasses?
Cruise is just mis-interpreting Thomas Szasz to flog Scientology. Szasz would not be amused.
WHAT'S YOUR GODDAMN EXCUSE YOU FUCKING COWARD??
He has no excuse- I even gave him the address of the recruiting office.
And offered to drive him there.
Guess there isn't any real conviction in ya, eh Toby?
Carp, I said that Mrs. Breitweiser is a 9/11 prostitute ---not a whore.
Oh, well that makes all the difference in the world
She is using her husband's memory like lots of other women have through History to get ahead in the game herself.
In this case, I have a big problem with her as an ideologue. She went and spoke to the DNC, if I recall correctly, and she was just being used.
But if she had spoken at the RNC...
I'll leave the rest of that for itself.
I've been calling him that for a while now. He's the gay guy who keeps throwing his gold lamé cape in my face.
oh Joe, how I love ya....
Carp:
But if she had spoken at the RNC...
I'll leave the rest of that for itself.
But she never would have because she's an anti-war liberal.
I said that Mrs. Breitweiser is a 9/11 prostitute ---not a whore.
Who cares what you think?
BTW, coward, When? When?? WHEN???
You can put your theories on how groovy it is to torture the enemy to the test - let's see how you feel when it's you not getting enough air conditioning.
And we'll all be here to spit on you when you get back. Count on it!!!
Carp, I said that Mrs. Breitweiser is a 9/11 prostitute ---not a whore. She is using her husband's memory like lots of other women have through History to get ahead in the game herself.
See what I mean about Toby? Sheer nihilism. Like the rest of these thugs, he'll spit on anyone and anything. Toby doesn't even have the guts to fight a war he supports, but he presumes to judge the motivations of a woman who lost her husband on 9/11, and who's followed the investigations far more closely than he has.
When it comes to exploiting 9/11, Kristin Breitweiser would have to put in some pretty fucking long hours to approach the record of the merest flunky in the Bush administration.
In this case, I have a big problem with her as an ideologue.
She has a big problem with chickenhawks like you.
She knows you're being used by cheney and the neo-cons and she's disgusted by your stupidity.
He has no excuse- I even gave him the address of the recruiting office.
And offered to drive him there.
I think Atrios should have a cab-fare fund raising drive for the cowardly wingnuts to get the local recruiter. The US military will take over transportation costs after that.
But she never would have because she's an anti-war liberal.
Toby Petzold
She's a fucking Republican, you braindead piece of shit.
TOBY PETZOLD IS AN ASS A FUCKING ASS
JESUS WHAT A FUCKING ASS
HE SAYS STUPID SHIT
the fact that he even makes you blink
says something bout you.
.
He's the gay guy who keeps throwing his gold lamé cape in my face.
Aside from the snideness of this, Incog has never been afraid to hate on a heterosexual. Even in the face of assurances from the liberalist of liberals has Incog been able to hate on some hetero people. It's what Incog does.
So, you know, don't feel special.
He's the gay guy who keeps throwing his gold lamé cape in my face.
Oh, right.
He's the guy who actually put on a uniform and went to war.
You're the chickenshit pussy who's too scared to enlist.
samoyed:
Nice sentiment, but Toby's schtick makes me think of the Nazi in "Saving Private Ryan" that whispered "Shhh.. shhh... shhhhhh... while he shoved the knife through the guys guts.
Remember that Toby? I'll bet you do.
Yeah. He was the lousy Nazi turd that the "conflicted" interpreter allowed to live.
Things come back to haunt us.
didn't a 9/11 widow go and speak to the RNC during the convention?
If our little trool boy would enlist, escorted by what shall we call them, ah - "Fair Witnesses" to wave buh-bye as the bus take him off to boot camp, I'll send them enough to take him to a strip bar for a lap dance or three, so he'll have something to think about when he's breathing sand and bloodsucking insects devour his flesh.
Plus the water pack I promised earlier, but only if we see him being sworn in by the 4th.
OK, out of carcrash rubbernecking curiosity, I just cued up the Lauer/Cruise catfight.
Now, granted, I've been a Jungian school therapist for 77 years now, so my approach is somewhat stolid.
Cruise is a micron away from choking this latest blushing Holmes starlet to death. Move over Michael Jackson. This dude operates exclusively in absolutes. This is a life perspective he of all people should avoid, when accounting for his still flailing thespian ability after 20+ years of being handed leading roles.
His fame has not and will never derive from the mastery of his craft.
His infamy might well derive from his public slide into insanity.
Oh, and Lauer's a supermarket tabloid putz.
the fact that he even makes you blink
says something bout you.
.
agave
There's some truth to that. Personally, I'm hoping that since Haloscan has figured out avatars, it'll get to work on an "ignore poster" feature.
ah - the Klein sessin is about to begin on Al/s sundance show...
NM Red
This thing was cringe inducing on the radio...its almost unwatchable on video. Klein is *not* human.
Wait a minute!!! THAT'S the guy everybody around here calls Incognito?!?!
HA, HA, HA, HA!!!!
I'd lose way more than he'd get out of it.
Phila
I hear ya. I just have a teensy bit more respect for Toby than for the trolls like Gordon and ether who just come in for the express purpose of stirring up crap. Toby doesn't namesteal, and he obviously thinks he can persuade some of us to see his POV, abhorrent though much of it may be.
I can at least salute his integrity, which is a mildly refreshing change from the Bush Uber Alles cultboy idiots we're normally saddled with.
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Heh, heh. Fucking sweet post, Wheat.
I didn't go through near the constant danger in the first Gulf War the Marines have to deal with in this one. I want to make that clear. But I faced it, and charged ahead to go at a time when Ross Perot was claiming the Pentagon had ordered 20,000 body bags. We all knew about those claims. I wasn't a coward like the wingnuts. And these are the ones helping deny me equal rights and who are yellow bellied cowards.
All Tom Cruise and Thomas Szasz were saying is that George Bush shouldn't be incarcerated or drugged for having paranoid delusions about being the president of the U.S.A. and savior and chief promulgator of democracy in the world. They are just saying that these delusions are essentially harmless, as long as we don't encourage them by actually voting for these lunatics and letting them get their hands on the power to carry out their paranoid fantasies and delusions.
"So, you know, don't feel special."
Carpbasman
I sure don't...
You can put your theories on how groovy it is to torture the enemy to the test - let's see how you feel when it's you not getting enough air conditioning.
That's the people you support, Tobysan.
Good luck living with your sorry, homophobic, sexist, racsist, torture apologizing self.
I'm so glad I'm not you. It must be painful to be inside of your head.
Things come back to haunt us.
Something you should remember.
2025 Guadalupe.
They're open on Saturdays. You could enlist and then see a flick afterwards.
Fielding is deftly spraying on a thick coat of Hyde repellent. Nicely done.
Things come back to haunt us.
Except in cases involving Republican foreign policy, which is infallible by definition and never has unintended consequences.
Which is why I was wrong for opposing military aid to Saddam while he was massacring people. And also wrong for opposing the bombing of Iraq.
I remember the Gulf War. And the only people ---the ONLY people--- who were talking about a draft were anti-war Leftists in Congress.
Useful tools.
Oh, and Lauer's a supermarket tabloid putz.
Zach Wheat
This is true.
Wait a minute!!! THAT'S the guy everybody around here calls Incognito?!?!
Yeah, and he posted as incognito before changing his handle to the disguise glasses.
As annoying as he can be, he's a pretty damned valuable contributor. As little credit as he's often given, he's often spot on about the homophobia that inhabits these very blog comments, even if he often misses the mark.
Fielding, he supports torture, and he voted for chimpy.
He has no intellectual integrity.
If he did he'd have enlisted by now.
I also don't mean to seem to keep throwing up my service. But it's important. Gays are serving and according to the governor of Texas, for those returning from Iraq, should live elsewhere. I never discussed my service for over a decade. People I work with don't even know.
Except in cases involving Republican foreign policy, which is infallible by definition and never has unintended consequences.
Do you suppose that all intended consequences are readily understood or beneficial to our interests in being publicly discussed by this Administration?
Aside from the snideness of this, Incog has never been afraid to hate on a heterosexual.
Pffft
He lives in fear and hate.
He takes his situation and wallows in it and can't believe anyone could feel what he feels.
Oh he's so special cause he's gay!
HaHaHa
HaHAhAHAAAAAAA
Fucking
Ha
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I remember the Gulf War. And the only people ---the ONLY people--- who were talking about a draft were anti-war Leftists in Congress.
True, even with a draft, the "special" elite non-troops will find a way to get out of that shit detail.
It seems there are a number of name-stealers here trying a tactic of something.
Wait a minute!!! THAT'S the guy everybody around here calls Incognito?!?!
Slow
I think Carpsman and this agave are name-stealers.
I also don't mean to seem to keep throwing up my service.
I think it's important to point out that many of the people the wingnuttians say "hate america" and call traitors have actually served their country.
Unlike all the pencil dick chickenhawks.
As a professional bartender, and therefore being in a position to judge, I'd say, yeh, he's fucked up.
And cut off.
We're no longer valid points I bring up--very valid points, now we get confusion and distraction. See how the trolls almost organically absorb tactics by Rove?
What did incog? did he enlist?
"As annoying as he can be, he's a pretty damned valuable contributor. As little credit as he's often given, he's often spot on about the homophobia that inhabits these very blog comments, even if he often misses the mark."
Carpbasman
Agreed.
"discussing" It's really become a squirelly bizarro world these days in this country and I'm sick of it.
I hear ya. I just have a teensy bit more respect for Toby than for the trolls like Gordon and ether who just come in for the express purpose of stirring up crap. Toby doesn't namesteal, and he obviously thinks he can persuade some of us to see his POV, abhorrent though much of it may be.
Well, far be it from me to argue with you. I understand where you're coming from. But him thinking he can persuade people doesn't really mean anything to me, because he refuses to be truthful or face inconvenient facts. The ace up Toby's sleeve is that he seriously believes might makes right; by tossing all non-rhetorical moral standards out the window, he can win just about any argument he wants...no matter what you say, he can always just say, "Yeah, so what?"
He's as bad as any troll around, in my book.
We're no longer valid points I bring up--very valid points, now we get confusion and distraction.
Shorter us, "enlist you cowardly motherfuckers!!"
shorter trolls, "but you're GAY!!! I shouldn't have to enlist cause you're GAY!! and traitorous."
Incog, don't start with me.
Really, don't.
I think you are right about the homophobia that gets displayed on the left without comment, I just think your targets are sometimes off.
Ok - I've stayed awake so I could watch Al & Joe eviscerate Ed Klein. Great fun on a friday night!
But its bedtime for me.
Night all....
...he supports torture, and he voted for chimpy.
Let's not forget it's already on record as saying no matter what comes out of Gitmo, no matter how horrifying or depraved, it will never, ever, ever say Commander Codpiece was wrong.
Truly the definition of a brownshirt.
DT42, I think he's a namestealer confusing and distracting. Hey, prove me wrong. Where do I "miss the mark"?
TOBY PETZOLD, THIS GAY GUY SERVED IN COMBAT, WOMEN ARE SERVING AND DYING WITH COURAGE, YOU STINKING SACKS OF COWARDLY WINGNUT SHITS.
I think it's important to point out that many of the people the wingnuttians say "hate america" and call traitors have actually served their country.
Unlike all the pencil dick chickenhawks.
Trolls think that they are elite troops. They are "special forces" on special ops. They think that trolling is conducting "special ops" behind enemy lines. Very dangerous. They think they are the Psyops component of the 101st chairborne.
And you over there!! you're a baby boomer!! a traitorous baby boomer!!
Pince, I just don't know. Your gayness is what it is, but I don't think it's good for your health to be on that all the time. You know: as a trait that absolutely keeps you down.
GET YOU STINKING TROLL ASSES AND ENLIST, GODDAMN ALREADY!!
GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAMNNNNNN
NNNNN!!!!!!
They think they are the Psyops component of the 101st chairborne.
Why even now they are bombarding us with their uber patriotic mind waves.
Pince:
WOMEN ARE SERVING AND DYING WITH COURAGE, YOU STINKING SACKS OF COWARDLY WINGNUT SHITS.
I know. It's heartbreaking. I wish there was a way for Bush-hating Gitmo-ologists to present a united front so that the murderers in Iraq wouldn't have an audience to play to.
You know: as a trait that absolutely keeps you down.
Kind of like your stupidity, eh?
Bevo wants you to enlist.
I truly enjoy discussing politics. I come from a family where my Depression Era/WWII veteran parents' travails left a decidedly liberal mark on my sensibilities.
But once the trolls come slamming in here with the "BWAHAHAHA, we're taking over the country! Die Liberals!" nonsense, I'd rather log off and go read a good book than to humor these ignorant, yet energetic fucks.
Do you suppose that all intended consequences are readily understood or beneficial to our interests in being publicly discussed by this Administration?
Toby Petzold
I don't even understand that question. If it means, "Do you think BushCo has some clever plan they can't divulge, and that it only seems like they're guilty of incompetence and venality?" then the answer is no. I think that in addition to being crooks, BushCo are bone stupid and that their interest in the well-being of America is negligible at best. I think they're complete fucking blundering morons and ghouls, basically.
"I think he's a namestealer confusing and distracting. Hey, prove me wrong. Where do I "miss the mark"?"
"TOBY PETZOLD, THIS GAY GUY SERVED IN COMBAT, WOMEN ARE SERVING AND DYING WITH COURAGE, YOU STINKING SACKS OF COWARDLY WINGNUT SHITS."
Ô¿Ô
Incog, I don't think that's a namestealer, although I could be wrong. And I don't really want to get into your 'missing the mark'. Because it's not worth us getting in an argument over it. It serves no point, especially if that is a troll and that is it's point.
As to your second point, I completely agree.
I bet Toby even has camo on his face, and some BDU pojammies on.
Sorry. I meant to say that I wish such people would present a united front with the rest of us. When these jihadists hear Durbin and Kennedy and the others tear down our military, they know they have a wedge to use on us.
The ace up Toby's sleeve is that he seriously believes might makes right; by tossing all non-rhetorical moral standards out the window, he can win just about any argument he wants...no matter what you say, he can always just say, "Yeah, so what?"
Nah, the ace up Toby's sleeve is that, much like Charles Johnson, he's afraid of the Mohamaden Menace. And that is about it. Further, he's incredulous that we haven't had the same reaction. He isn't backed into the same corner as Johnson, but he still believes that terrorism (which means muslim terrorism) is not only the greatest threat we've ever faced, but a threat so great that it entitles us to ignore international law and common sense decency.
Otherwise, he's fairly liberal.
Nice sentiment, but Toby's schtick makes me think of the Nazi in "Saving Private Ryan" that whispered "Shhh.. shhh... shhhhhh... while he shoved the knife through the guys guts.
Remember that Toby? I'll bet you do.
samoyed
Actually, somehow he reminds me more of the Nazi in The Pianist that helped the hero after years of unhuman persecution and then is somehow amazed that he's destined for righteous retribution.
He's the gay guy who keeps throwing his gold lamé cape in my face.
And see - here's the "hyde" moment of which I spoke.
the fact that he even makes you blink
says something bout you.
agave
Not a naif, me. I've seen his schtick many times before. I sniffed out Ted Smith while many here were still thinking he was a zany, misguided progressive.
In any case, I now step aside and let all of your darts find their mark.
You should have quit while you were at least close to drawing even, Toby.
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Ô¿Ô
No name stealer
My girl friends best friend except me (I hope) is gay.
He was student pres at her high school in NM.
My son has many gay friends. It's almost like it's cool.
Yeah, many hate gays.
But what the fuck are you wallowing in your self pity for.
When so many can be proud and even leaders?
There's no way to say that Iraq is a sacrifical anode without seeming callous, Phila.
They're just no fucking good. We're going to be forced out of Iraq, err, because of "reality." Let me tell you something, wingnuts: These troops are not angry now. You know, the one who actually served and are maimed for life. They don't understand at this point. But in the coming years, you will be hearing from them. They're mostly young and have no idea what's going on. It will take about a decade for them to understand.
Toby,
In yer pick 'em up truck mounted gunrack... fishing pole or gun?
It's heartbreaking.
Not heartbreaking enough for this cowardly motherfucker to do anything about it, of course.
Anytime, motherfucker, anytime.
wow, the Franken & Conason v. Klein bout was something. Klein wasn't able to get off the ropes after the first round. Al was little too 'nice' there at the end. Damn liberal impulse to kindness to vanquished foes. Al, you got some real nice chairs there in the new studio, USE THEM!!!
Pathetic. I hope Klein enjoys his eternity in the new lower circles of Hell Satan has been building for the overflow.
Probably his $600 pool cue he has yet to make pay for itself...
Fielding:
You should have quit while you were at least close to drawing even, Toby.
What, and play against type? I don't do that. Much.
You insisted they stay and fight and be maimed for something obviously more in vain that Vietnam? While your stinking cowardly asses stayed behind?
Those like rocketass better change his name.
There's no way to say that Iraq is a sacrifical anode without seeming callous, Phila.
How true that is.
There's no way to say it without sounding stupid, either.
NM Red,
It was an inarguable red-assing, and well supplied. Why Klein agreed to it, only he knows.
Dumbass.
Dave, your constant vulgarity is pathetic. Grow up.
There's no way to say that Iraq is a sacrifical anode without seeming callous, Phila.
Toby Petzold
When wars are fought with words, Toby is always the first to enlist. The first out of the trenches and over the top. The first to turn tail and run when the first shot is fired in anger.
Toby thinks if we'd all just believe hard enough and clap loud enough chimpy's folly would turn around.
If he really wanted to help out he'd enlist.
Drudge better hide in a decade.
Toby, how much do you get paid for trolling?
Toby has a shrine to Karl Rove in his basement apt.
wow, the Franken & Conason v. Klein bout was something. Klein wasn't able to get off the ropes after the first round. Al was little too 'nice' there at the end. Damn liberal impulse to kindness to vanquished foes. Al, you got some real nice chairs there in the new studio, USE THEM!!!
That's just it. Franken was actually concerned that it seemed like a bunch of people were ganging up on Klein and even apologized for that at the end of the interview.
Republicans would have just ganged up on him.
Unfortunately, I think this is a feature and not a bug of liberal talk radio.
There's no way to say it without sounding stupid, either.
That's the one thing toby excells at.
Being stupid.
Probably his $600 pool cue he has yet to make pay for itself...
fark
Pool?
Did someone say pool?
damn I miss that so much!
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Pince:
You insisted they stay and fight and be maimed for something obviously more in vain that Vietnam? While your stinking cowardly asses stayed behind?
Our men and women in uniform are quite literally dying in defense of their country. They are in a place where they take on the worst of these Islamofascist bastards. Right there in the heart of the Middle East, our best and bravest are showing these rodents that they will die and democracy will live.
I am proud of our men and women in uniform. I wish I were a fraction as courageous as they are.
Toby, how much do you get paid for trolling?
100 team leader points and all the cheetos he can eat!!
I don't know from sacrifical anodes.
Iraq is teetering right now at best, from the boots on the ground and the stars in the a/c'd HQ.
Who cares what Rumsfeld, and the now also bunkerized Wolfowicz has to say anymore.
At worst, we've slaughtered thousands of our own bodies, thousands of another nation's bodies, and made things much worse than how we found them.
I wish I were a fraction as courageous as they are.
We wish you were too.
But you're just a yellow-bellied chickenhawk.
Pathetic.
he still believes that terrorism (which means muslim terrorism) is not only the greatest threat we've ever faced, but a threat so great that it entitles us to ignore international law and common sense decency.
Well, he's used the "might makes right" schtick on me more than once. But you're probably right...it probably stems from the fear of Islamic extremism you're talking about.
And I can understand that fear, honestly. What I don't understand is how reacting to it with brutal stupidity makes anyone anywhere any safer.
"I know. It's heartbreaking. I wish there was a way for Bush-hating Gitmo-ologists to present a united front so that the murderers in Iraq wouldn't have an audience to play to."
Toby Petzold
Toby, you giant idiot! I was trying to stay out of it tonight, but that is beyond the pale.
The Murderers in Iraq have an audience to play to BECAUSE of Bush and his illegal war!
I also don't mean to seem to keep throwing up my service. But it's important...
Ô¿Ô
Indeed. Back in the day, half of the squad leaders in my unit were lesbians. The platoon leader (an officer and a gentleman?) was a lesbian. The unit (Military Intelligence) couldn't have functioned without them.
Later, in Germany, one of our specialists practically paraded down the street in leather gear. According to the new "don't ask, don't tell" nonsense, he should have been cashiered immediately, yet we were so short of people with clearances, the kept him on board to serve out his enlistment.
Why? So he could drive the goddamn bus to our mission site. Petty bullshit.
If it weren't for gays in the British military during WWII, the allies might never have broken ULTRA. Hello! Alan Turing?
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Those like me from the first Gulf War were against this one and mostly very quiet. We know how we were treated. These vets will be treated the same. The Bush administration has cut VA funding 3 times already. Those returning are going to grow to understand that and how they were used to make some fatcats even richer.
Toby should just admit it what he knows, what we all know. The truth is that if leveled with, the American people would do what conservatives are usually associated with. Mind their own business. That's why they cannot be told the truth. But what if they figure it out? History seems to suggest that the precedent for "peace with honor" has already been established, by Nixon, no less. I never realized Nixon was such a defeatist American hating traitor.
Nixon's timetable was just as irrelevant to the Viet Namese as Bush's refusal to adopt one will be to insurgents in Iraq.
Phila, if the al-Qaedists explode a dirty bomb in Manhattan, we won't have time to think about niceties and following the letter of the law. We will be in a rage and looking to destroy the nests where such cockroaches live.
Do any of you doubt that we are living in the calm before the storm?
You know: the storm that comes before The Storm.
Toby,
If pigs fly out of your ass, we won't have bacon for breakfast. What did that have to do with Iraq?
Our men and women in uniform are quite literally dying in defense of their country. They are in a place where they take on the worst of these Islamofascist bastards. Right there in the heart of the Middle East, our best and bravest are showing these rodents that they will die and democracy will live.
Really Toby, they aren't fighting and dying for our freedom or in defense of this country. Iraq could have stayed just the way it was and the US would not have been any different. We'd be just the same, only more than a thousand soldiers would still be alive and the rest of our military wouldn't be over extended in a war they weren't designed to fight.
As for the "worst of these islamofascist bastards" you do realize that most of them wouldn't have existed except for Iraq, right?
And referring to your enemies as rodents isn't exactly new either.
If it weren't for gays in the British military during WWII, the allies might never have broken ULTRA. Hello! Alan Turing?
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Fielding Mellish
Bill Gates is spending Alan Turing's money.
The North sat down at the peace table in Paris because Nixon was bombing their asses into dust.
That will need to happen again before long.
I hope the Syrians are securing their museums.
Right there in the heart of the Middle East, our best and bravest are showing these rodents that they will die and democracy will live.
Yeah, the IDF's been teaching the Palestinians that same stern lesson for some time now. It doesn't seem to be working too well.
We all wish you were as courageous as the soldiers over there, too. And I bet they wish it even more. You can be, you know. All it takes is a signature.
This is the problem with cowards like Toby. They completely overestimate the danger they're in, while also being too scared to fight the battles they say are so necessary. And then they try to drag the entire country down to their level of cowardice and ignorance. And in doing so, they get in the way of people who actually know what's going on (e.g., Richard Clarke or Valerie Plame).
We will be in a rage and looking to destroy the nests where such cockroaches live.
Where do you live?
BTW, you never answered my question:
How much do you get paid for trolling?
Me personally, I haven't suffered any ill effects but some in my unit have suffered from Gulf War Syndrome.
Toby Petzold
Have you ever tried to exterminate cockroaches, Toby? Have you ever even been to Manhattan? Have you ever seen the size of the cock roaches in Manhattan? The Manhattanites learn to co-exist.
The North sat down at the peace table in Paris because Nixon was bombing their asses into dust.
Refresh my memory, Toby. What kind of government is in place in Vietnam today?
Toby won't answer that question, will he?
carp:
As for the "worst of these islamofascist bastards" you do realize that most of them wouldn't have existed except for Iraq, right?
That's the silliest thing I've read tonight. Most of these jihadists are foreigners who are murdering the locals. They were looking to take us on somewhere.
We have made Iraq that place. And it will pay for its new society and new government with a lot of sacrifice. That will be an example in the region for generations to come.
Islamofascist
Toby is a Kosher anti-semite.
Phila:
Refresh my memory, Toby. What kind of government is in place in Vietnam today?
One that depends on trade with Uncle Sam, wise guy. Where's your victory now?
Answer Toby, you gutless, fucking coward.
How much do you get paid to do this?
well, we'll let Randi do full attack mode when needed.
The holes they blew in Klein were like those in "The Quick and the Dead" where you could see the mountains thru the holes in the bodies...
couldn't spell names, didn't fact check anything fuckin' thing, 'treats her like a male' (and wow, how offensively telling is that remark?), does no reseach and then claims he's a 'biographer', then claims the purpose of hte book was to examine her fitness for office. whatta slime mold.
One that depends on trade with Uncle Sam, wise guy. Where's your victory now?
It doesn't depend on it, Toby. It made it 30 years with out. It is just preferred, like yer air conditioned basement apt. As opposed to walking point in the hot Iraqi sun.
Toby is a gutless fucking pussy.
Me personally, I haven't suffered any ill effects but some in my unit have suffered from Gulf War Syndrome.
Ô¿Ô
Thank your lucky stars, Incog.
My best friend was an Airborne Ranger company commander in Gulf I.
Ran, ran and ran more.
Pushed a lot of Fort Benning earth away from his chest.
Healthiest dude I've ever known.
Shortly after setting boots back stateside, he tested positive for TB, is lined up for veterbrae fusion, and just got diagnosed with prostate cancer.
And Shrub cuts VA funding.
I fucking can't stand the man on a visceral level.
samoyed:
How much do you get paid for trolling?
Are you asking that because you're paranoid or just stupid?
I thought the biggest employer in Vietnam was NIKE for their near slave labor.
They were looking to take us on somewhere.
Toby,
Put down the G.I. Joe doll and read your Sun Tzu.
Phila, if the al-Qaedists explode a dirty bomb in Manhattan, we won't have time to think about niceties and following the letter of the law. We will be in a rage and looking to destroy the nests where such cockroaches live.
So you're saying we're idiots? Because what you're describing sounds like idiocy to me.
You're one of those schmucks who thinks that "kicking ass" is a strategy. Sometimes, you actually have to be intelligent instead of flailing around blindly.
When white supremacists dump anthrax in a shopping mall or subway tunnel, who do we bomb then? (And don't say it won't happen. It will.)
Toby's afraid to answer the question because he knows Duncan has his IP address.
Phila, if the al-Qaedists explode a dirty bomb in Manhattan, we won't have time to think about niceties and following the letter of the law. We will be in a rage and looking to destroy the nests where such cockroaches live.
Do any of you doubt that we are living in the calm before the storm?
Before the storm of what, exactly? That differentiates itself from other countries susceptible to terrorism how?. We are far more susceptible to inside terrorist acts than we are fom anyone outside the country. And yet, the entire focus by guys like you isn't on terrorism, but on a country that never had anything to do with terrorism on American soil?
"Those returning are going to grow to understand that and how they were used to make some fatcats even richer."
Ô¿Ô
Good point, and remember they are also trained killers who have seen combat. I'd hate to be one of the fatcat mofo cronies who started this shit then.
Shit, gasbag.
Read Clausewitz
SWOOSH!
They were looking to take us on somewhere.
But for some odd reason, Afghanistan didn't fit the bill.
Christ! Read T.E. Lawrence. You ignorant pussy.
Phila:
And in doing so, they get in the way of people who actually know what's going on (e.g., Richard Clarke or Valerie Plame).
Hmmm. It looks like we have a new winner for the Silliest Thing I've Read Tonight Award.
How do you know Valerie Plame "knows what's going on"? Ha, ha, ha. That's just fucking stupid.
Thanks for making this thread all about me.
You fucking morons
But for some odd reason, Afghanistan didn't fit the bill.
And the whole world thought we had every right to be there. And I supported that action, but Karl didn't see that Memo. He thought it came from downing street.
hey, when can we make fun of DeLay's eyelift again? that would be ever so much more fun than poking the trools with sticks...
I figure he was ordered to have the eye lift done by his Sauriod Masters from the Orion sector, because his true reptilian form was becoming more apparent to the Earthlings around him. well that, and the DDT huffing...
But for some odd reason, Afghanistan didn't fit the bill.
That's right. Iraq had to be the anode because of its proximity to other segments ---I mean, countries.
How do you know Valerie Plame "knows what's going on"? Ha, ha, ha. That's just fucking stupid.
Toby Petzold
If it was up to Bob Novak, he would tell the world what Valerie Plame knew.
Are you asking that because you're paranoid or just stupid?
Probably both. The paid trolls don't come around until election time.
People,
Ask Toby why he won't respond directly to this question:
How much do you get paid to troll here?
Toby will never surrender. He won't be taken alive, either. That's a good thing.
I hope the Syrians are securing their museums.
If you knew anything about anthropology or archeology, you wouldn't be saying such fucktard things.
Let me follow up:
In the event the Syrians are unsucessful, let's hope only the Christian relics and artifacts get looted, destroyed, or desecrated.
Hi bats. Just came in from a gig.
Jesus Christ. Fucking Toby? Tell me you people haven't been sitting here all night doting over the goddamn Toby.
samoyed:
Toby's afraid to answer the question because he knows Duncan has his IP address.
So, it is paranoia!
I repeat
You fucking morons
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There used to be a band here in Austin called Toby Dammit.
Sharkbabe - sorry, I've tried to not indulge too much. Besides, the Klein massacree was way fun, and if Tom's fallen off the wagon, he knows he's in deep deep shit...
really, I tried...
So, it is paranoia!
It's a very simple question, Toby. How much do you get paid to troll here?
Have you ever tried to exterminate cockroaches, Toby? Have you ever even been to Manhattan? Have you ever seen the size of the cock roaches in Manhattan? The Manhattanites learn to co-exist.
Good stuff, fark.
One that depends on trade with Uncle Sam, wise guy. Where's your victory now?
Toby Petzold
MY victory? You think that because we had a war, someone actually won it? You read too many comic books.
Recent halting steps towards economic liberalization aside, Vietnam is a one-party communist country with a centrally planned economy. We killed a lot of people, and lost a lot of people, to end up with that result. If you're going to say that this mine-ridden, bird-flu-ravaged, inflation-bedeviled hellhole represents the vindication of Nixon's policies, you're even crazier than I thought. Or, perhaps, more honest.
Tell me you people haven't been sitting here all night doting over the goddamn Toby.
Sharkbabe
B-b-but Sharkbabe, you done tol' befo' not to kill the prisoner, jus' to make 'im pull his hair out 'n stuff.
They are in a place where they take on the worst of these Islamofascist bastards.
Toby
See, this really cuts to the quick of the whole argument, and actually sums up the frustration and anger I have with the post-9/11 response.
It's an easy thing to paint targets on the backs of 150,000 soldiers and send them into a place where they'll be available targets. This is not a clever strategy designed to draw our enemies out into the open. This is a cheap, makeshift, stopgap, measure to drum up unquestioning loyalty at the expense of the poor people who make up the majority of our enlisted troops.
The only reason that they're "fighting terrorism over there so we don't have to fight them here" is because the Bush administration has made it so very goddamn easy to "fight terrorism" (read: get blown up by IEDs) over there.
As a vet, I find this highly objectionable.
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That's right. Iraq had to be the anode because of its proximity to other segments ---I mean, countries.
Sounds like a cluster fucker winging it to me and it's clearly bullshit.
Trying to put lipstick on a pig. Just like this whole clusterfuck.
Thanks for making this thread all about me.
You fucking morons
Toby | 06.25.05 - 4:13 am | #
Wow, a person who doesn't believe what the majority of readers believes managed to derail everything by believing in something else.
Contact your local psychology department.
How do you know Valerie Plame "knows what's going on"? Ha, ha, ha. That's just fucking stupid.
How do you know she didn't?
Toby, are you paid to troll here, yes or no?
You all think that that McVeigh or the DC Sniper were bad? Those returning will be far more numerous and blood-thirsty. They have a psychotic need for that now. Not all, but many more. The 'walking wounded' returning from Iraq last time will make those returning now look like 'walking wounded on crack.' They will be preying upon this society for many years to come.
Good stuff, fark.
You equate people to bugs, Toby.
Compliments from you, no matter how insincere, don't make me all warm and fuzzy.
and let's not forget that children with profound birth defects are being born every day in Vietnam, thanks to the residual agents orange and blue in the soil and ground water.
Toby, are you paid to troll here, yes or no?,/i>
Ummm, I'll say probably not. Why is the idea of the paid for troll so important anyway? Paid for trolls wouldn't bother being as obvious as Toby.
Sorry.
Thanks for making this thread all about me.
I don't know that it's all about Toby. What Fielding has to say, for instance, is eloquent and interesting. I'm not going to ignore it because it's "about Toby."
Seems to me anyone who wants to talk about something else could start the ball rolling pretty easily.
I think Toby really thinks he is fighting evil by being here. He needs help.
Anyway, I don't like this Gravatar bullshit. I didn't like when it showed up at Digby's, I don't like it here. What is the point of some teensy dumbass graphic nobody can actually see. I also don't like lack of email in signature.
So, this Tom Delay drunk video. I'm on dialup and can't bother. He's an asshole and a thief and a monster. OK, and now a drunk asshole and thief and monster. Yet Dick Durbin apologizes. We've got a long fucking way to go, people.
Phila, if the al-Qaedists explode a dirty bomb in Manhattan..
Yeah, Dog knows the insurgents couldn't spare the 3 or 4 guys and several millions it would take to make this happen, because they're mesmerized by our troops in Iraq.
If they really wanted to do it, they'd do it. Why bother when there are so many high-payoff targets just a couple miles down the road? Bush has made attacking Americans easy and cheap.
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What is the point of some teensy dumbass graphic nobody can actually see.
I don't see the point either, but I guess it's harmless.
Blogger has them too, but they're big. Too big, really.
Tell me you people haven't been sitting here all night doting over the goddamn Toby.
Yeah, well, I thought he was going to give me a blow job.
Ô¿Ô - unfortunately, your prediction is already coming true. The pain and anger that these people bring home will taint their lives and the lives of those around them. Just one of the reasons we should be careful on when we ask our military to wage war. Gutting the VA is sure a 'support our troops' action, ain't it?
There used to be a band here in Austin called Toby Dammit.
Toby Petzold
Back in the 80's the Austin Lounge Lizards did an hilarious song about Ronald Reagan... about his "conservativisms" and such. Sadly, it does not apply today. People like Delay and Bushco are far worse than Reagan ever was.
Damnit, Toby!!!
Toby, I'll be a wingnut for freedom if you give me a blow job.
Tell me you people haven't been sitting here all night doting over the goddamn Toby.
Yeah, well, I thought he was going to give me a blow job.
Ô¿Ô | 06.25.05 - 4:30 am | #
Why is the idea of the paid for troll so important anyway? Paid for trolls wouldn't bother being as obvious as Toby.
I just want him to deny that he's being paid to troll here. Once he does i'll go away.
samoyed:
Toby, are you paid to troll here, yes or no?
No.
Go Ô¿Ô ! Go!!!
and I'll say g'nite - must be up in 5 hours to do garden work and a visit to the farmers' market before it gets too hot.
Have a good weekend, fellow 'bats, enjoy the summer in its high glory.
Tell me you people haven't been sitting here all night doting over the goddamn Toby.
Doting? Is that what I was doing? No wonder my kids moved out of the house at 18 with no fuss.
If they really wanted to do it, they'd do it. Why bother when there are so many high-payoff targets just a couple miles down the road? Bush has made attacking Americans easy and cheap.
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Fielding Mellish
That sounds like a future rethug talking point... Their logic is so twisted they'd probably get the Red State amnesiacs to accept it as gospel.
"The only reason that they're "fighting terrorism over there so we don't have to fight them here" is because the Bush administration has made it so very goddamn easy to "fight terrorism" (read: get blown up by IEDs) over there."
"As a vet, I find this highly objectionable."
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Fielding Mellish
I agree, and also as a vet, I cannot abide the socalled strategy of pulling most of our forces out of Afghanistan and putting them in Iraq, just as they were beginning to be really successful. Especialy the 5th SF.
Iraq was obviously wrong from the very beginning from many points of view, particularly from a strategic one.
I mean, if your goal is legitimately to fight a war on Terrorism, you go to the immediately verifiable source and kick the shit out of them and don't stop till they're done.
You don't pull your troops out so that the Taliban can make a resurgence, as they are now, and then tie down your Army in Iraq; So we cannot now respond to any real threats in the world because Bush decided he had to use his 'capital'.
Obviously this PROVES that Terrorism was never a real issue to Bush and his cronies other than as a means to spread fear to the US and get what they wanted.
Bush was never interested in anything more than enriching his daddy and his daddy's friends; And he used his base to get the 'capital' to do so.
toby,
You're from Austin, Texas? My perfect oldest brother lives there, along with wife, the UT professor.
Ever heard of Barton Creek?
samoyed:
Ô¿Ô - unfortunately, your prediction is already coming true. The pain and anger that these people bring home will taint their lives and the lives of those around them. Just one of the reasons we should be careful on when we ask our military to wage war. Gutting the VA is sure a 'support our troops' action, ain't it?
NM Red
And taint the life of society for a long time to come. There is a guy in a National Reserve unit, locally, who used to write from Iraq to our local newspaper. He was "giving us updates." You could see his mood change over several months. He described about sleeping, and then going out and facing gunfire and IEDs day after day. He doesn't write updates anymore.
Dog knows the insurgents couldn't spare the 3 or 4 guys and several millions it would take to make this happen, because they're mesmerized by our troops in Iraq.
Exactly. It's all such bullshit. If you wanted to bring this country to a screaming halt, there's about a million things you could do. And if I'm lying awake worrying about them, I bet some terrorist is lying awake plotting them. Wasting time and resources in Iraq is madness given our domestic vulnerabilities.
It's kind of touching that people want to believe in this all-knowing, all-powerful government that's got our best interests at heart, and has this clever plan to save us from the Islamiac Hordes, but it's nonsense. All Bush has done since 9/11 is compound the damage that the terrorists did to us.
Say, Pince, that put-upon homosexual-as-victim routine sure is easily shed, ain't it?
Goddamned heterophobe.
Repeat after me:
I do Karl Rove's work when I engage with Toby Petzold.
I make Karl Rove smile when I engage with Toby Petzold.
When I allow our threads to be devoted to Toby Petzold, I allow the oxygen and energy and thoughts and ideas and plans of the American resistance to be frittered away on total bullshit verbal masturbation antics. Which President Rove could not be happier about.
samoyed:
Toby, are you paid to troll here, yes or no?
No.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 4:34 am | #
Thank you son!
Phila:
Wasting time and resources in Iraq is madness given our domestic vulnerabilities.
Is this the part where the liberal explains how he didn't mean that America should become a police state?
Can't have it both ways, folks. You either go and step on that fuck before it reaches the children ---or you sit around thinking of new ways to monitor everybody's business and making this society over into a bunker/hive/grave.
(Thanks to Geo. Carlin for that image.)
Sorry, sharkbabe.
Got a little carried away with the facsist.
sharkbabe, I'm just a guy chillin' on a Friday night. Listening to some Traffic, lighting up, and not leaving anybody alone.
When I allow our threads to be devoted to Toby Petzold, I allow the oxygen and energy and thoughts and ideas and plans of the American resistance to be frittered away on total bullshit verbal masturbation antics.
Point taken, but do you think you might be giving Toby just a wee bit too much credit?
I've read a lot of interesting stuff on this thread devoted to "Toby." Didn't know Fielding, DT, and Incog were all vets, for instance.
Toby's not that big a deal, you know?
Yes, DMS. It's where all of the rich people live. And the hippies who were here before the nouveaux riche assholes showed up.
(Thanks to Geo. Carlin for that image.)
Toby Petzold
George Carlin thinks you're a jerk Toby. Don't count on him to back up your lame assertions.
Phila:
Toby's not that big a deal, you know?
Finally someone who gets it! Quit reacting to me as a person and start reacting to me as a thing that's right when you are wrong.
Can't have it both ways, folks. You either go and step on that fuck before it reaches the children ---or you sit around thinking of new ways to monitor everybody's business and making this society over into a bunker/hive/grave.
You left out the part where Carlin says that if the dumb cop kicks the wrong door down, he doesn't plant evidence to make it look like a righteous bust.
Toby, I'll be a wingnut for freedom if you give me a blow job.
Ô¿Ô
Noooooo!!! Besides the undoubtedly unsatisfactory experience of having Toby gobbling at your meat like a retarded, sight-impaired Bluegill going after bait, there are probably many on our team who'd do a much better job.
Are you trying to start some sort of bidding war?
Night, batties! Time to fold up the wings for now.
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Goddamned heterophobe.
That's it.
What's funny about Toby's conversion to "Mohameden Menace" hating is that it has opened up so many avenues of hatred that weren't previously available to him. Actually, it's not funny.
Is this the part where the liberal explains how he didn't mean that America should become a police state?
Can't have it both ways? You can't have it, period. Sane people and patriots realize that you can't trade your values and your liberty for security. But within the context of what's appropriate to people in a free society...yes, we are indeed wasting resources and lives in Iraq without making ourselves or anybody else safer.
Take the billions being wasted in Iraq and put it into intelligence-gathering, airline security, and securing chemical and nuclear plants, and you'd get much better value for your money. Anyone who can't see that is blind as a bat. I was peripherally involved with some of this stuff in the Clinton years, and they did reasonably well on anti-terrorism, without demanding grotesque amounts of power or shredding the Constitution.
Night, batties! Time to fold up the wings for now.
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Fielding Mellish
Goodnight, Fielding!
Toby is allowed to hate the Mohamaden Menace, that is all that is important.
And BTW, otherwise he is quite liberal..
I mean it. God damn. A long night of playing in a bar (with a weird serious gang girlfight at the end), and I come home for a little decent bat conversation before bed, and 440 posts, and a whole bunch of it this actual engaging with the fuck Toby, Jesus! Without which this thread would be half the number of posts and actual folk conversing in actual useful or interesting ways.
DO NOT be hijacked in this way, gang, I beg you. Sucked into spending your time at a keyboard with Tobys means you need to go outside and look at trees.
I need you and I need your real energy and real lives on these boards. Believe me, Toby shit is straight from Rove to suck oxygen and life.
sharkbabe, you are one hyperbolic chick.
Sharkbabe is right on one level. But on another level trolling and engaging trolls serves a purpose. The real problem is that our trolls are usually banned at wingnut sites that even allow comments in short order.
Toby is allowed to hate the Mohamaden Menace, that is all that is important.
Carpbasman
It's creepy the way folks like him combine uber-paranoid hatred with maudlin paternalistic claptrap about bringing democracy to the Middle East.
They have a right to self-determination! And they'll get it if we have to kill every last one of 'em! We don't torture people! But they deserve it! Muslims want to live in peaceful democracies! But they're inherently evil zealots who hate Freedom!
And so forth.
Next time I will ignore the outsider. The outsider shall be shunned. The outsider does not exist. We converse for sharkbabe's pleasure.
It's creepy the way folks like him combine uber-paranoid hatred with maudlin paternalistic claptrap about bringing democracy to the Middle East.
They have a right to self-determination! And they'll get it if we have to kill every last one of 'em! We don't torture people! But they deserve it! Muslims want to live in peaceful democracies! But they're inherently evil zealots who hate Freedom!
If it weren't for all that, this country would be convulsing right now.
Americanism cannot defeat Islam. They believe it can.
It's creepy the way folks like him combine uber-paranoid hatred with maudlin paternalistic claptrap about bringing democracy to the Middle East.
They have a right to self-determination! And they'll get it if we have to kill every last one of 'em! We don't torture people! But they deserve it! Muslims want to live in peaceful democracies! But they're inherently evil zealots who hate Freedom!
Thanks for that peek inside the mind of a sociopath.
We converse for sharkbabe's pleasure.
Yes. Do that.
Night folks.
Sharkbabe is right on one level. But on another level trolling and engaging trolls serves a purpose.
Different people have different takes on this question. I've seen people say absolutely brilliant things in response to trolls...not in terms of putting them down, but in terms of stating a saner, wiser political credo in eloquent terms. Like I said upthread, Fielding's posts don't stop being worthwhile because they're in response to Toby. And if you can't appreciate what he has to say because of that context, I'd argue that you're cheating yourself, and giving Toby way more power than he deserves.
The troll conversation has been going on as long as I've been here, and I concluded a long while ago that neither the commenting format, nor the general approach to trolls, was going to change. It probably should, but I doubt it will.
I don't usually post at Rightist sites. I prefer arguing to circle-jerking.
be all that you can be
go army? na..hell no
go http://166.20.120.3/IIF/jobs/
job...jobsummary.html
sharkbabe, you are one hyperbolic chick.
Toby Petzold
Why should you care when you have my dick to slob?
I don't usually post at Rightist sites. I prefer arguing to circle-jerking.
Toby Petzold
If you were capable of honest, rational argument, very few people would have a problem with your posting here.
It's the fact that you and your ilk can't "win" arguments without lying or making shit up that bothers people.
To be fair, I also dislike you because you seem to have utter contempt for every conceivable human possibility beyond mere survival. But I'd even let that go if you weren't a pathologically dishonest confabulator.
Trolls, hackers, phishers, virus coders. Cyber-warriors and self-styled outlaws in the new frontier of the basement apt.
Well, my sheets are finally out of the dryer. Time to turn in. G'night, folks!
Later, Phila.
Some form of adolescent psychological maladjustment and antisocial pathology. 100% teen age boys, better this than trench coat mafia at Columbine, but I don't think Toby has the balls for that.
Ah waaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!!
He's wasted, no question about it.
He gets shitfaced in public...in DC? I hope he doesn't sully the holy ground of the Brickskeller.....
He has a nice buzz on...Been there, done that....easy to tell..no doubt about it.
The buzzed Bugman.
Hey Badger,
I went to GWU in the 70's. Was the Brickskeller the place with all the beers?
DeLay has the map of Alcoholics Anonymous all over his rancid face.
The black-and-white worldview cult of AA is an offshoot of the Oxford Group, which is an offshoot of Buchananism, where the Rev. Buchanan was the James Dobson of his day, and a repressed but PROJECTIVE homosexual (he had much interest in the sexual habits of his Yalies, 80% of whom he deemed "perverts" to the Dean of Yale in at the turn of the 20th c. (Source: "AA: Cult or Cure?")
AA brought us the concept of neo-Born-Againism (note how the "disease" cop out resembles the "born-again" cop out of no self-accountability, but now "we're SAVED!"
AA, which claims to be independent, colludes with the government by allowing the government to force people who are addicted to alcohol to go to a religious cult called AA.
AA'ers are big on 'Law and Order' (save for themselves, of course, where they're 'diseased victims.'). Their 'thinkers' brought us Tough Love, which brought us permutations of the bizarre, like 'Three Strikes and You're Out."
Somehow Rightist Unison and lies and the undying contempt for critical thought and true self-honestly reminds me of the Cult of AA.
As for DeLay, I hope he suffers so much he gnaws at his liver--without onions!
Now shoot away, 12 Steppers...
idea?
You are all a bunch of terrible people. I can easily tell, by my well-known long-range diagnostic powers, that Mr. DeLay is not drunk in that video. Instead he is clearly dosed up with anti-hallucinogenic phenothiazine tranquilizers. His tongue feels large and numb and his vestibular reflex-arc has gone all wombly. Still, you can be sure that Mr. DeLay's doctor has made no misdiagnosis. We, Mr. DeLay's colleagues, know these phenothiazines were certainly well-needed.
First of all, you damned liberals should stop double-guessing medical professionals. What arrogance makes you think you can diagnose better than the doctors on the scene? Second, talk about the left-wing's poltics of personal destruction! Mr. DeLay's medical problems should remain the private business of him, his family and his doctors. They should not be splashed all over the media for partisan political advantage!
It's just like the media crucifixion of Rush Limbaugh. Have you liberals no shame?
If you need to see Drunk Delay in Quick Time,
http://www.crooksandliars.com/20...6/
24.html#a3622
Since I'm not an MD, I can legally "diagnose" freely from video clips:
Looks to me like too much exposure to neurotoxic pesticides....
Or perhaps he's just a typical Republican -- firing on at most two neurones....
Cheers,
aargh!
Test Test Test -- Test Test Test
This is a test.
Still testing.
Who doesn't love a good test?
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