I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
come out and play
i thought wolcott was kidding about carrie the musical. now, i dare hope there will be a hammerhead musical.
This thread smells like...victory!
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dave(TM): I couldn't resist getting one of the "Impeachment? Fuck, yeah!" stickers. I wonder how long it will last on my Insight before some "patriot" removes it for me?
BTW, that TCM documentary on Steve McQueen just started...
I couldn't resist getting one of the "Impeachment? Fuck, yeah!" stickers.
Oh, you're the one! Thanks!!!
I just did it on a lark, really - good luck! Don't blame me!!!
I love pitchfork.
Saw Batman Begins today. It was better than I expected.
you're the one!
LOL! At least I'll get to savor the 1st impressions of all the rednecks.
Bullit is the best car chase.
If I see dat sticker i will remove yer bumper with it, you traitor!
i thought wolcott was kidding about carrie the musical. now, i dare hope there will be a hammerhead musical.
Well, there's already *this*...
nah, the seven-ups is better.
Since it's an open thread:
If you look at it, the neo-cons are really just a bunch of fringe, right wing kleptocrats who made their bones, so to speak, during the cold war.
Is it any surpirse that these guys have conjured up the same flavor of boogeymen, only now they call it "terrorism" instead of "communism" and it's still a "threat to our very way of life"?
Just sayin'
And thanks everyone, I have been lurking here for year (or whenever Billmon shut his comments down),and you guys are like water to a thirsty dude.
Erik
Bullit has better cinematography.
...smells like victory?
Don't underestimate them!
After they're dead, hornets still sting, snakes still bite... not that I'd want to insult hornets or snakes by comparing them to the neocon possé currently in the white house.
(dragging up from below)
Eli -
Are you familar with the Pgh. Fillmmakers? Have you played with the "big printer"?
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I noticed Toby blamed Bill Clinton for the policy to remove Sadaam. When they resort to TPs that worn they are truly out of material.
I propose the best solution for stipping the insurgency in Iraq. Send Bush over to the other side. He has f'ed up everything he has ever attempted. Seems pretty simple. Hes the ultimate cooler.
Saw Batman Begins today. It was better than I expected.
Hecate
That and Crash were my two "good" movies of the summer.
Now it's on to unadulterated trash, noise, special effects, and cartoonish women(although not cartoonish enough for comic books, but hey): War of the Worlds and Fantastic Four.
I expect nothing more than a lot of noise and pictures for two hours apiece, in an air-conditioned theater with an overpriced bag of popcorn and a box of Junior Mints (you do know the only way to eat theater popcorn is with a Junior Mint for every handful, don't you?).
Is this a great country, or what?
Well, there's already *this*..
everytime you think the musical is dead....
Are you familar with the Pgh. Fillmmakers? Have you played with the "big printer"?
I play softball with their marketing director, actually...
They have a "big printer"?
Oh fresh thread-y goodness.
More rain starting - I'm staying right here.
Twenty-frist!
Eh, did you hear about the Wimbledon men's third round? A plucky guy called Andy Murray, 19 and from Scotland, managed to fight both Nalbandian and injury to get two sets and a break up about halfway through the game, but couldn't sustain the pace and lost the break and the next two sets. One of the few reasons to tune into ESPN2 tonight...
Ever been stung by a dead bee?
I see a terrorist attack in the near future. Las Vegas, perhaps? No way the fascists just roll over and die.
I've already signed-on as a supporter of Batboy2008.
He, err, it, can take the US into the future!
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RMJ - Apparently AintitCoolNews.com's reviewer was unexpectedly impressed by the cinema verité style of the film - Cruise isn't doing his usual Action Hero schtick in this one, and tho' there's action, it's set against some gritty family tragedy of the classical kind.
Mp3 *parody*. Funny, sad and true.
Ever been stung by a dead bee?
Eddie
Why don't you bite it back?
I'm thinking the vulnerable place is Southern California. Enron II. Fight the power and even more importantly, the water. Hoover Dam?
I hope not.
Thealogie--don't ruin it for me before I see it.
It's Cruise and Spielberg. I expect pointless noise and improbable action, a la Minority Report (Spielberg going Philip K. Dick? Kill me now), and some atonement for the ending of A.I. (still a favorite anyway) and for all of E.T..
As for F.F., well, it's my favorite childhood comic and Jessica Alba.
What more does one ask for in the summer? Except a big box of Junior Mints.
Gonna have to hit Costco....
Ahh...cheeba!--
That song is funny. But it needs the back-up singers. Maybe Cheney and Rumsfeld could do the "ooooh" part.
Have you read the papers on Ritalin? Do you know what it is? How many dead aliens have to die before you people listen!
bill,
Taking out Hoover would be way too much work. There are miles and miles of high voltage transmission lines strung out in the desert and you can black out LA by taking out a few select xmission lines. nYC has lots of its generation in-city, but clearly it goes down when the rest of the Eastern Interconnection goes down.
Just saw Howl's Moving Castle the other night. IMO, the best movie of the summer, one of the best movies I've seen in years, visually so awesomely beautiful that there are whole periods when I was holding my breath in pure joy.
My focus is really on the water issue. Without Hoover you really put the region in a fix.
George speaks the truth:
MP3 Bush Speech Remix
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Some reports that Cheney was taken to hospital today for heart trouble NOT the problem knee, cover(up) story.
They have a "big printer"?
One of those Epson thingees.
44" wide.
I avoid it like the plague because I would be so self-indulgent.
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Ever been stung by a dead bee?
Ever eat a pine tree? Many parts are edible...
Some reports that Cheney was taken to hospital today for heart trouble NOT the problem knee, cover(up) story.
Cheney has a heart?
RMJ - I will never ever forgive Spielberg for AI. Never.
That one broke my heart so many times - the first and hardest time was when she activated his emotions, and he said: "Mommy?" And then when he runs after her begging him not to leave her.
And don't get me started on the teddy bear...
Tena has a big heart, however.....
The Dallas FortWorth should be getting light very scattered rain.
Mostly Fort Worth.
Clearing shortly and them maybe some small T Storms early evening.
Unless everthing changes!
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I have heard that pine trees taste a lot like wild hickory nuts...
It's Cruise and Spielberg. I expect pointless noise and improbable action, a la Minority Report (Spielberg going Philip K. Dick? Kill me now), and some atonement for the ending of A.I. (still a favorite anyway) and for all of E.T..
I'm looking forward to it. Given that my fave of all time is a B-movie, Raiders (tied with Casablanca), I just expect entertainment.
As for F.F., well, it's my favorite childhood comic and Jessica Alba.
Alba's totally hot (loved her in Dark Angel and Sin City), Iaon GRIWWDUASHDHSUFH (damn Welsh) has been high on my list since he starred in A&E's Hornblower minis. But judging from the trailers, and the buzz I hear from friends in the comic biz, it's going to suck ass. I'd rather see Batman Begins a third time, I think, and wait for F4 on DVD.
One of those Epson thingees.
44" wide.
I avoid it like the plague because I would be so self-indulgent.
Wowzers. Maybe if I get a gigapixel camera or something...
That one broke my heart so many times - the first and hardest time was when she activated his emotions, and he said: "Mommy?" And then when he runs after her begging him not to leave her.
I liked AI, but it would have been a far, far better movie had it ended where it was clearly supposed to.
Pere Ubu, I'm a great liker of pesto, does that count?
Iaon GRIWWDUASHDHSUFH
Gesundheit.
The trailers for War of the Worlds and FF both looked pretty bad.
Ever eat a pine tree? Many parts are edible...
Same with cattails.
Ever eat a pine tree? Many parts are edible...
Sounds like Euell Gibbons.
Calling NTodd! NTodd to the white courtesy phone...
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Once again, I've invested a lot of time and thought into a comment posted on a thread that became old, too quickly. The bottome of the previous thread contains my thoughts on Toby and his "proprietary atrocity" if anyone cares to read it.
Afternoon, Friends, Eschatonians, and Countrymen. It approaches beer-thirty in some necks of the wood.
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That one broke my heart so many times - the first and hardest time was when she activated his emotions, and he said: "Mommy?" And then when he runs after her begging him not to leave her.
And don't get me started on the teddy bear...
I used it for my philosophy class ("What is the 'self'?"), and that scene always gets to me.
What breaks my heart is that Osmet didn't even get an Academy nomination. On the strength of that scene alone, he blew away the competition for miles (and years) around.
NTodd--Oh, I expect it to suck. The whole reason for going is to see it suck on a big screen, and cure myself of "summer blockbuster fever" for another year.
It's a chronic problem for me....
Pere Ubu, I'm a great liker of pesto, does that count?
back when I worked in Utah the nearby convienence store carried big bags of pine nuts. I'd always look at them, and would always *almost* buy one, but never did.
BTW, that was indeed Euell Gibbons; so that's $5 down and on to Groucho Marx...
I liked AI, but it would have been a far, far better movie had it ended where it was clearly supposed to.
Totally.
Via AP:
President Bush is casting about for ways to turn the tide of public opinion on Iraq. He is running into a growing level of skepticism, new strains in Republican unity and more frequent comparisons to the Vietnam conflict of almost four decades ago.
A new stepped-up public relations effort has yet to show results. The next event is a prime-time speech on Tuesday at Fort Bragg, N.C., with U.S. troops as his backdrop.
Bush administration officials see the speech as a chance for the president to clearly spell out his goals — and the stakes — of a continued U.S. military presence in Iraq. But analysts suggest it will take more than a finely honed speech to revive flagging public support or to reverse an alarming slide in military recruitment.
"I don't think anybody will be able to watch that speech without wondering where is the banner saying `Mission Accomplished,'" said Anthony H. Cordesman, an Iraq expert and former Pentagon intelligence official...
Rather than using those in the military as a prop, Bush should "sit down, present a substantive picture of what we are going to do in Iraq, and then have that backed up in detail by members of the Cabinet and by the senior military. Otherwise, the most you can do is to persuade the already converted," said Cordesman, a defense analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies...
The president also used his weekend radio address for the second week in a row to try to rally support. "Our nation's mission in Iraq is difficult, and we can expect more tough fighting in the weeks and months ahead. Yet I am confident in the outcome," he said.
Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security adviser in the Carter administration, responded for the Democrats by saying, "We deserve a realistic definition of success for a war that increasingly threatens to become a quagmire." He contended that for the first time in U.S. history, "America is conducting a war without any effort at bipartisan consultation on our tactics, on our strategy, and on our goals."
Some 53 percent of people surveyed say the United States made a mistake going to war in Iraq in March 2003, according to an AP-Ipsos poll released Friday. That is the highest number in AP-Ipsos polling who have said the war was a mistake...
The poll numbers are approaching the levels of public discontent registered in the final years of the Vietnam War. The administration says Iraq has not become a Vietnam-like quagmire — but that word is being used more frequently to describe the political situation facing Bush...
In recent days, Democrats have stepped up their criticism. Volleys also have come from Republicans who are troubled by what they see as the administration's failure to give an honest assessment of the situation in Iraq.
The unity on the war that Republicans exhibited during last year's election campaign is showing cracks. Nobody in the party wanted to weaken Bush before the election. But with the 2006 midterm congressional elections approaching, members are thinking about their own status as they field increasing complaints on Iraq from constituents.
A withdrawal resolution was introduced in the House with the support of conservative Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., previously a strong war supporter. Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told a Senate hearing that public opinion in his military-oriented and conservative state was turning against the war and it could become "a chronic problem" for the administration.
Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., suggested the White House was "completely disconnected from reality" in claiming the war was being won.
well, as i wasted thread breath down below, pros use the epson.
now, NTodd the cannon 20D vs. your camera. thoughts?
and BTW dick cheney is an evil bastard.
I will never ever forgive Spielberg for AI. Never.
Well, Kubrick has to take some of your heat... in fact, most of it.
Of course, the best pine nuts are pinion nuts.....
Tena sez:
I will never ever forgive Spielberg for AI. Never.
"Jurassic Park" did it for me.
When I read the novel (trash, but fun trash) I thought Spielberg would be the perfect director.
I mean, the guy who did "Jaws."
The movie, however, well...pelicans!
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NTodd--Oh, I expect it to suck. The whole reason for going is to see it suck on a big screen, and cure myself of "summer blockbuster fever" for another year.
LOL!
Sounds like Euell Gibbons.
Calling NTodd! NTodd to the white courtesy phone...
Heh, that's how I knew about cattails. I really should break out my copy of Stalking the Wild Asparagus and read it again.
Reminds me of a comedian who was on Carson years ago. Can't remember his name, but he was making fun of Euell Gibbons, and it was damn funny. Only part I remember now is something about walking with Euell in the woods and he stops and says, "here, eat this squirrel...here, try this tree..."
well, as i wasted thread breath down below, pros use the epson.
I saw that, and agree.
now, NTodd the cannon 20D vs. your camera. thoughts?
See the other thread!
Las Vegas, perhaps? No way the fascists just roll over and die.
Vegas embodies the ultimate evil infesting the USA, according to the Evangelicals. They won't miss it. Yes, it would probably be considered disposable.
Charley - here's what I said in the other thread:
Not a clue. My dad has a Canon, but I'm not sure which model--he loves it.
I'm lusting after the Nikon D2X, myself. [/homer drool]
Bullit's chase has better sound, too.
Great sound.
The bottome of the previous thread contains my thoughts on Toby and his "proprietary atrocity" if anyone cares to read it.
Pitchforks and Torches
i did, and it was brilliant. as i was also wasting thread breath, let me just say, i should have stayed in psychology. who knows maybe they would have had something for me at gitmo.
i've previously admitted i'm a moral fuckwit. of course not anywhere near on a par with our glorious leader.
dave points out:
Well, Kubrick has to take some of your heat... in fact, most of it.
Why? Kubrick was dead well before Spielberg inflicted his hackery on us.
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Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security adviser in the Carter administration, responded for the Democrats
yes, that's Zbig himself, the "angry Arabs" guy, the one who argued in the first place for U.S. support of the mujahadeen which indirectly led to 9/11. Speaking for the Democrats.
And I'm sure what the public needs right now is another Tony Robbins speech from the Chimp about how Iraq will be a democratic paradise any day now if we just keep following him blindly...
Cheney has a heart?
wolf-man | 06.25.05 - 4:57 pm
Not really.
It's a chronic problem for me....
At least you have chosen the appropriate cure.
Me, 9 times out of 10 leave the movie theatre angry as whatever I conned myself into being worthy of the time and cash tends to dissapoint me sorely.
That said, I think LOTR would have been worth it...
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"Sounds like Euell Gibbons.
Calling NTodd! NTodd to the white courtesy phone...
Heh, that's how I knew about cattails. I really should break out my copy of Stalking the Wild Asparagus and read it again."
That book and my father led to my consuming cattails as a child. Harrumph.
Bullitt = Lalo Schifrin. Great composer. I think he was to that film as Bernard Herrmann was to some of the most famous Hitchcocks: Fred might've made the iconic visuals, but Bernie's music made them stick.
I'm lusting after the Nikon D2X, myself. [/homer drool]
NTodd
dream'n big. of course you would want that as you have the nikon lenses. cannon topline is considered the best.
i'll tell you this i'm very impressed with the finepix s3, it uses nikon lenses, and it's half the price.
Raw Political Power, that was what Iraq was.
It wasn't a war for oil - cheap oil was just a useful secondary benefit.
It wasn't a war against terrorism - that was just a convenient excuse.
It wasn't a war to enrich Bush's and Cheney's cronies - those were just pleasant by-products.
It wasn't a war to show Poppy Bush that Junior was more of a man than him - that was just a personal bonus for Dubya.
It was, pure and simple, well planned years in advance, a war to solidify Bush and the Republican Party's political capital.
It was a war for political power. That had to be first. Everything else - oil, profits, ongoing PATRIOT Act powers, easy manipulation of the media - all could only come if political power was seized and held through at least two decisive election cycles.
The Bush administration lied us into an invasion to get and keep political power. It's that simple.
I liked AI, but it would have been a far, far better movie had it ended where it was clearly supposed to.
I've always suspected that was when Kubrick died....
Breaking News:
AP Washington-Lieberman took to the floor of the Senate to demand that Minority Leader Reid apologize for demanding the resignation of White House strategist Karl Rove. "it was just over the top", Lieberman said. "Reid does not represent me and is not the spokesman for the party. We all need to stand united with the President"
NTodd sez:
Reminds me of a comedian who was on Carson years ago.
IIRC, Carson did a lot of Gibbons jokes.
I grew up thinking Gibbons was some sort of clown. ("Not many people know a picnic table contains fibre and vitamins!") Later I found out he was kinda cool.
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Live Free: no kidding? Lieberman said that?
Sigh. You don't stand united with a President who to all appearances has not the ghost of an intention of standing united, or even vaguely anicably, with oneself.
Lieberman took to the floor of the Senate to demand that Minority Leader Reid apologize
oh, please, please, please let this be a joke.
That said, I think LOTR would have been worth it...
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Kent™ Embigulator
Well, I understand Peter Jackson's next effort is King Kong.
I think it's meant to be a sequel, not a remake.....
And I'm sure what the public needs right now is another Tony Robbins speech from the Chimp about how Iraq will be a democratic paradise any day now if we just keep following him blindly...
I bet he gets low ratings....
anicably=amicably
I blame the heat index.
Shark Frenzy On Ice!
Joementos
The Freshmaker.
The Senate is not in session today.
The Lieberman thing above, however realistic, is a snark.
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what, did everyone go to the kitchen for a sammich all at once?
I think it's meant to be a sequel, not a remake.....
Kongzuki?
Coulda sworn Kong died in the last one.
The Senate is not in session today.
Good one, spork.
Online anti-bush game
http://www.emogame.com/bushgame.html
Rmj - On Osmet - no kidding. I generally avoid child actors; they usually give me the pip.
Osmet is different. The kid is a genius actor.
The fact that people on this thread considered briefly that Joementum could say that, shows you the state of the dem party. Rebubs never apologize unless they are about to loose the Majority Leader slot. Dems apologize and shank each other on a weekly basis.
Say, this New! Improved! Haloscan doesn't display e-mail anymore?
WTF?
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If Clueless Joe is saying that it's just the prelude to his fuguin' it into the arms or the Republican Party. If he isn't picked off in the primary I predict that he'll make that R after his name official.
I have no intention of playing nice. This is war.
Coulda sworn Kong died in the last one.
watertiger
Been looking at fall book catalogs for a few weeks, now. Movie tie-ins, that sort of thing.
Something about a return to "Skull Island," and a "surprising find" there.
We'll see.
Renato,
Excellent.
The fact that people on this thread considered...
That fact you made that BS up and presented it as a legit news story here is more relevent than anything the people on this thread considered.
I remember eating the "flowers" on a spruce tree when I was little. They tasted like strawberries.
renato -
Over the line.
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good=stupid
evil=repubs
The fact that people on this thread considered briefly that Joementum could say that, shows you the state of the dem party.
No, it shows our justifiably poor opinion of Lieberman and his toadying attitude towards the Repugs.
I think it's meant to be a sequel, not a remake.....
A sequel of the Fay Wray, or Jessica Lange version?
In any event that does sound interesting.
Now bad sci-fi, starring Luke Perry as a geologist, now that's cinema.
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spork,
I agree that the use of the images may cross the line, but honestly, I'm so pissed off these days that the commentary helped me blow off steam.
It was, pure and simple, well planned years in advance, a war to solidify Bush and the Republican Party's political capital.
i said this earlier, qualifying that i did not think it was the only reason. but maybe i was wrong.
these are some sick bastards.
how, how do we undo this malevolence unleashed on America?
Bush.
Rove.
Lies.
Iraq.
Liberal is not a four-letter word.
bad sci-fi, starring Luke Perry
You repeat yourself.
(but then again, now that I think about it, Perry was in The Fifth Element, which, if not good SF, was at least fun. And he wasn't in it for all that long.)
how, how do we undo this malevolence unleashed on America?
Indeed. Even if we win every election we need to win, we have inherited disaster after disaster that have affected so many of us, it will take a lot of years and effort to "undo" it.
I see a terrorist attack in the near future. Las Vegas, perhaps? No way the fascists just roll over and die. - Pechorin
I have no objection to terraists taking out the Bellagio during the Young Republicans Convention.
I think it's meant to be a sequel, not a remake.....
A sequel of the Fay Wray, or Jessica Lange version?
Fay Wray. Apparently the family of the original version is involved, and has "blessed it."
In another note, Gore Vidal's Imperial America will be out in September.
You read it here first. Probably.
Here's an update, courtesy of Michelle Malkin, on the status of the administration's effort to get armor to our deployed troop. She's promoting an organization which is seeking private funds to speed up the process. No lie.
http://asilentcacophony.blogspot...ge-of-
week.html
i fail to see how it's anywhere close to being more 'over the line' than the constant exploitation of 9/11 by the GOP necrophiliacs.
Thread below is being shat on by you know what.
kent,
the luke perry sci fi channel thing is "Jules Verne's Voyage to the Center of the Earth's Core."
Only without James Mason or Hillary Swank.
or Tcheky Karyo, that Frenchman who could take me home anytime. ("Bob" from "La Femme Nikita")
I remember eating the "flowers" on a spruce tree when I was little. They tasted like strawberries.
pinion pine nuts, they'reeeeeeeeee great!!!! in pesto.
also grubs fried up in butter, i'm not joking. earth worms can be eaten too, good source of protein, but they don't taste so great.
I'm not so sure it is, Renato. While the visuals are disturbing, the Repugs are disturbing, dangerous, and more offensive than anything I can come up with at the moment.
Tcheky Karyo, that Frenchman who could take me home anytime. ("Bob" from "La Femme Nikita")
One of my favourate movies!
Anne Parillaud...drool.
I swear Tarantino stole most of his stuff from Besson.
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also grubs fried up in butter, i'm not joking. earth worms can be eaten too, good source of protein, but they don't taste so great.
jeebus, it's like being in a room full of Bismollians.
Interesting to see how many of you gristleheads bought the phony Lieberman quote.
Same kind of folks who keep accusing me of statements I've never made.
Over at AmeriBlog, news is breaking that Cheney has checked into the hospital and the White House has lied about it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
th...right_3160.html
Official White House statement that Cheney was just getting "an old football injury" looked at (yeah, right) now debunked as witnesses say no, he was whisked to the adjacent cardiac unit suffering from "an agina attack."
Hmm. Well, the blogosphere has been rumbling with rumors that Cheney wouldn't fill out a second term so someone more "electable" could be installed in time to prep for 2008.
You've been corrected, Pitchforks.
"Over at AmeriBlog, news is breaking that Cheney has checked into the hospital and the White House has lied about it."
The White House?? Lie???
If it is indeed angina, more proof (along with Rove's Desperation Theater this week) that the lying pack of fucks is starting to feel the noose tighten . . .
Be ready for anything, friends, even another "terrorist attack."
Right, Tobester?
I thought Euell Gibbons was double cool as a kid. Socialist,free thinker, serious woodsman. Died young.
So if Darth Cheney carks it, or steps down, Bush can appoint, say, Bill Frist as VP?
Tcheky Karyo, that Frenchman who could take me home anytime. ("Bob" from "La Femme Nikita")
Yes, that man can play a mean some-bitch. I enjoyed his turn as a bad cop in that Jett Li Bridget Fonda claptrap.
Anyone around here seen a movie called "Wasabi"? It stars Jean Reno who became a favorite of mine because of that film.
The only reason I bring that up is I thought for a second that he was the guy your were talking about, untill google cleared it up for me.
As for Journey to the center of the earth, I saw that the US Track and Field Championships are on, so I made the switch, though now it may be time to drop into "the Magnificent Seven"
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Bush can appoint, say, Bill Frist as VP?
Perish the thought. Frist has already embarassed himself too many times, and he's much more useful as Bush's Senate waterboy.
I'd look elsewhere. Let's see ... brother Jeb, perhaps?
Rmj,
The trailer for Kong is coming on Monday/Tuesday. I might actually be interested, since he's doing the Fay Wray, not Jessica Lange (only thing intersting in that one was the scenery, not the chewing of said scenery).
Speaking of scenery and LOTR, kent, do you really want a postcard from New Zealand? My friend seems pretty serious about this, I'm supposed to come up with an estimated cost, and rough outline of travel plans! Yeah!
Again...
Kristen Breitweiser is a 9/11 prostitute who should be ashamed of how she's capitalizing on her dead husband. But she's not. Which makes her the perfect Dhimmicratic prop.
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So if Darth Cheney carks it, or steps down, Bush can appoint, say, Bill Frist as VP?
Isn't that how Nelson Rockefeller became Ford's V.P.?
Toby is calling us names. Ha.
Toby, ever hear of a conditional statement? Here's a clue. It's what your folks use when their lies are no longer deniable.
Euell Gibbons .... Died young.
Apparently many parts of a pine tree AREN'T edible.
Seriously, I thought the guy was like 90 when I died.
(but then again, now that I think about it, Perry was in The Fifth Element, which, if not good SF, was at least fun. And he wasn't in it for all that long.)
Really, I missed him, though I really enjoyed that movie as well.
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Also, per "La Femme Nikita":
Never pour acid on someone who's not quite dead.
Trust me.
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Pere Ubu, and then there was President Rockefeller, right?
I thought the guy was like 90 when I died.
That explains the problems with Haloscan. It's been recieving messages from the Great Beyond.
Buckeye,
Damn! Go! Pawn yer shit if you have to!
New Zealand's my next stop. And maybe my last, if Bush doesn't get impeached.
Never pour acid on someone who's not quite dead.
I am Victor the Cleaner.
and then there was President Rockefeller, right?
well, no, but I was thinking the process would be similar in this case.
I thought the guy was like 90 when I died.
Don't blame Halo Scan. It's blogging combined with Chardonnay.
OK, Euell Gibbons was born in 1911 and died in 1975. So I guess he did die young. He just looked old on those Grape Nuts commercials.
Seriously, I thought the guy was like 90 when I died.
I thought he was like 90 when he made the commercials. 
I thought Cheney was 90, too. Yeah, the hospital story was up yesterday, and now more details are coming out.
You read it here first. Probably.
RMJ,
seein's how you seem to have some inside information, can you slide me on the outcome of the seventh race at pimlico?
Daddy could really use a new pair of shoes!
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Luke Perry was the young archaeologist at the beginning of Fifth Element, the one who sketches the Mondoshiwans as they come out of their ship.
Isn't that how Nelson Rockefeller became Ford's V.P.?
Megan Marshak.
That's all I'm saying.
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Bullit was the only movie that made my stomach do flip flops during the chase scenes--those San Fran hills. I thought "whoa, how did they do that?"
It doesn't happen seeing it on TV, but it sure did in the movie theatre.
It's blogging combined with Chardonnay.
Friends don't let friends blog drunk.
You don't really think they would kill off Cheney to raise their poll numbers, do you?
(Damn! I cannot believe that I just wrote that - I never would have done that before these people. But then again, I never would have believed they could lie us into a war and the lie about everything else all of the time.)
watertiger sez:
I am Victor the Cleaner.
Would you be offended if I never dated you?
I mean, I stay out of bathtubs. Bad things happen there.
.
Bismollians.
Pere Ubu
well, of course i felt very stupid not knowing this word, until i looked it up.
i was just offering suggestions for when the economy goes crash, boom, bang.
maybe we could all just suck on oil cans like in the incubus video.
yeah, tobys here.
I see that someone took a steaming dump in the corner, can someone crack a window please.
Because it is stupid, not in the least attractive, and has only a mother to love it.
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Why does Euell Gibbons have purple children?
DWD, look how may people they've already killed. Hundreds of thousands. They'd kill hundreds of millions if it would get them what they wanted.
Death isn't just for good people. Think of any one of the people they've killed for oil and power. It helps to keep things in perspective.
You don't really think they would kill off Cheney to raise their poll numbers, do you?
don't know about that, but i bet bill casey died before his time.
trust me i don't go in for the conspiracy theory shit, but these are some evil motherfuckers.
POWER, it must be as good as they say it is.
Renato -
Cool, my brother.
Kent -
Love the Beer-thirty ref.
In college many, many years ago, my buds and I used to make that remark around fourish. That was on weekdays.
Right now, I've got a real cold martini with Gordon's and Martini and Rossi. Smeuuuthhh.
Matter-Eater Lad, Euell Gibbons and Nelson Rockefeller.
Well, I see I've done my '70's pop culture references for the day.
Watertiger, doesn't your sister live in Australia? Airfare between NZ and Australia has gotten very cheap, you could live either place and visit the other for weekends.
But yes, if I must pawn everything, I shall do so! Easier than moving it all down there! But first visit, then work on moving.
Euell Gibbons is dead?
Why wasn't I told?
Goddamn . . .
do you really want a postcard from New Zealand?
Yes and Yes, and I will be interested in whatever you find out about inexpensive(yeah right) or alternative travel arrangements.
Friends don't let friends blog drunk.
Thanks Pere Ubu, think I'll go take a drive and clear my head.
Kidding.
Am I still dead?
Luke Perry was the young archaeologist at the beginning of Fifth Element
memory refresshed, thanks PU.
Euell Gibbons is dead?
Why wasn't I told?
Goddamn . . .
Jack LaLanne | 06.25.05 - 6:05 pm
Well, we sent a message by way of Jim Fixx...
Well, I see I've done my '70's pop culture references for the day.
Pere Ubu
I will wager the house that in the 1970's, Shrub had one of those gag leashes idiots would walk around with that had no dog on the end of it.
Hey! heh-heh, Get it?! heh heh. See, there's supposed to be a dog there! Heh heh. But look! No dog! heh-heh.
Death isn't just for good people. Think of any one of the people they've killed for oil and power. It helps to keep things in perspective.
EPT
Nothing so large or outrageous it can't be justified.
Or accepted.
Hey! heh-heh, Get it?! heh heh. See, there's supposed to be a dog there! Heh heh. But look! No dog! heh-heh.
Zach Wheat
I'm sure he did.
But I'll raise you: he was sure he had a dog on that leash.
All in favor of sending Dubya to GITMO say:
Aye!
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So, when I get really angry, I get domestic (It's a Dutch thing). Otherwise my domestic quotient is way negative.
After Rove-ing through the last two days I was compelled to totally clean the house (like vacuum under the sofa cushions) and make the following for dinner:
Roast leg of lamb with potato, onion and creole tomato gratin.
Mango, avacado and chutney salad
Fresh bread
Homemade French vanilla and rum ice cream with fresh blueberries.
I truly hate these people.
I will wager the house that in the 1970's, Shrub had one of those gag leashes idiots would walk around with that had no dog on the end of it.
Hey! heh-heh, Get it?! heh heh. See, there's supposed to be a dog there! Heh heh. But look! No dog! heh-heh.
Invisible Whippets of Mass Destruction...
Martini's!!??
Dat's a plan.
Gin!
Noilly Prat
Soon as I get off work!
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hi everyone.
so.
cheney in the hospital with heart problems? god forgive me, but is he almost ready to croak? (i hope)
hmmmm...
wonder what the spin doctors will dream up for this one.
DWD - why the hell would they kill off Cheney?
They'd be much more likely to kill off Dubya if they were going to kill off someone to raise their numbers. In fact, since Cheney is probably "they" in the first place, he'd be much more likely to be tempted to make a martyr of Commander Cuckoo Bananas.
And at that moment, our goose would be well and truly cooked.
lb0313,
I'd like to get you absolutely furious, and then have you invite me to dinner.
George Burns sez:
Am I still dead?
Is Gracie?
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Roast leg of lamb with potato, onion and creole tomato gratin.
Mango, avacado and chutney salad
Fresh bread
Homemade French vanilla and rum ice cream with fresh blueberries.
Remind me to get invited over to lb's for dinner, and then be spectacularly annoying all through the day...
(which indirectly reminds me of the Daily Show segment where Samantha Bee was trying to set off the ex-bully - damn, that was funny)
Shrub had one of those gag leashes idiots would walk around with that had no dog on the end of it
Teacher, I don't have those WMDs I told you about; the dog here ate them.
So if Darth Cheney carks it, or steps down, Bush can appoint, say, Bill Frist as VP?
the ultimate fristibuster!
Homemade French vanilla and rum ice cream with fresh blueberries.
(homer simpson voice: )
mmmmm....rum.....
GHMTA, GL...
Dooo the Electric Boogaloo ...
(of course, you have to be annoying *after* the invite, otherwise you won't *get* the invite, plus it might wear off too soon)
Eli,
I'm so there. Samantha Bee. Great.
GottaLaff
It's a short drive these days
Whippets
When they grow up they'll chase mechanical rabbits.
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Roast leg of lamb with potato, onion and creole tomato gratin.
Mango, avacado and chutney salad
Fresh bread
Homemade French vanilla and rum ice cream with fresh blueberries.
Now how can I get some of that without leaving the airconditioning.
DWD - don't feel too bad. I never knew I was capable of such hate as I feel for these people.
I will wager the house that in the 1970's, Shrub had one of those gag leashes idiots would walk around with that had no dog on the end of it.
Zach Wheat
Don't hate on a brutha for having a gag leash, man.
DWD - don't feel too bad. I never knew I was capable of such hate as I feel for these people.
I hate them twice as much as yesterday, but only half as much as tomorrow.
lb0313,
Don't I know it.
Does this mean dinner's on then?
Does anyone know if there's any truth to this?
I've been searching the net all day, looking for references to war protesters showing up at military funerals, with zero results. The story of the dead soldier is true. The part about the war protesters seems made up to me - but there's nothing about it on the urban legend reference sites.
Can anyone shed light on this? Please e-mail me if you can.
Right now, I've got a real cold martini with Gordon's and Martini and Rossi. Smeuuuthhh.
Billy B,
I can't remember when I first heard it but I have always been a fan. And I think in a few minutes I may have to make my own martini Svedka and M&R as well.
Damn, i guess those two olives will have to do a yoemans work.
.
Don't hate on a brutha for having a gag leash, man.
JAC
Oh oh, try *this* can of peanuts!
With the public turning against the Repukes, Cheney stepping down would be a good thing. (Lets face it Cheney stepping down at any time would be a good thing.) But they might be forced to replace him with someone relatively "moderate" so if we get the chance to Chimpeach, the replacemnt will be an improvemnt as opposed to the scenario where Cheney becomes PReznot for real.
I'm loving the Bush/GOP slide in the polls. A sthe strain increases the GOP will come apart along the lines of those who want corporations to run everyones lives and those that want their churches to run everyones lives.
The best thing about living in Kansas is that we have already seen the furutre of the GOP and it ain't pretty. Of course in a state like Kansas the GOP still runs most things, but the infighting has given us a Dem Congressman in a district that includes the richest county in the state and a Democrat Governor.
IB0313,
You, too, are Dutch? I thought it was my burden to bear on this web. (The backslid Calvinist and key to the Dutch way of perceiving things - nothing even approaching reality.)
Rmj, Wandering Aengus, I've always had a bit of trouble with Taoism. I don't think everything resolves into a balance, at least not in our experince.
Thank you for the thought provocation, though.
Oops! The address is flyboog@yahoo.com.
Don't hate on a brutha for having a gag leash, man.
JAC
Oh oh, try *this* can of peanuts!
And some gum...
Oh oh, try *this* can of peanuts!
Zach Wheat
Somewhere in a closet at my mother's house, there's probably a roll of Super 8 movie film of me and that damn leash.
It will make a nice blue glow when I burn it.
I will wager the house that in the 1970's, Shrub had one of those gag leashes...
My money's on the Pet Rock. And he killed it because he forgot to feed it.
Ba-da-DUM! Thank you folks, and be sure to tip your waiters and waittresses ......
The State Governor was there to pay his condolences along with some War Protestors from Missouri. Based on the news converage from tonights local news. The Protestors are from Missouri and they travel across the USA with the soul purpose of providing social unrest at the burial of America's fallen heros.
Maybe they are refering to Fred Phelps and his family of bigots. They are from Topeka Kansas (which is near Missouri) and travel around the country protesting at, among other things, military funerals. They think 9/11 and the Iraq debacle is God's punishment ont he US for allowing homosexuals to live. Phelps is a far right religous nutcase, not an anti-war activist.
Oh and St. Aengus. Haven't thought about him in donkey's years. Almost didn't notice.
Maybe we can plan a feast when this long national nightmare is over.
DWD - oh, yeah, 100% Dutch. Family is CRC - Mom from GR, grew up on a vegetable farm in Ohio. I've backslid all the way to New Orleans. It's step 4 in the recovery program
You, too, are Dutch?
My best lover was Dutch. Sigh. The good old days.
I'm loving the Bush/GOP slide in the polls.
yup. me too. i was just saying today, that the day this regime ends, i will be dancing.
and not before.
Seen Toby's latest?
The "proprietary atrocity" is Tobe's attempt at an intellectual way of describing the 9/11 theory that the government staged the disaster. His intellect, however, is two-dimensional as we all know.
That is absolutely the worst misunderstanding of anything I've ever written here.
It is Breitweiser and her pimps in the Kerry-Edwards campaign and the DNC who think that the atrocities of 11 September 2001 belong to them. They think it's their property to exploit. Breitweiser became a shill for the campaign, spoke at the convention, and was a mover behind the Kean Commission.
Don't deceive yourself into thinking that it's the Republicans alone who exploited the events of that awful day.
Rove is right: some of the biggest names on the anti-Bush Left couldn't even bring themselves to support the War for Afghanistan. They wanted to puss out and issue indictments and try these subhumans at The Hague. Fuck that. The American people don't have to be told which party has the stuff to prosecute this war on the Islamofascists.
Toby Petzold | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 5:30 pm | #
Toby doesn't know what to do when he's in a hole, apparently.
What's the "B." stand for, Toby?
Storm Clouds
In terms of the 2006 election, public disapproval of congressional performance is already translating into potential electoral trouble for Republicans.
A recent NBC News poll reports that the American public would actually prefer a Congress controlled by Democrats – 47 percent say they would rather see Democratic control, versus 40 percent who prefer Republican control.
It’s no coincidence that one of the last times the public disapproved of Congress at least this much was immediately preceding the election of 1994, when Republicans gained control of both chambers for the first time in 40 years.
Democrats – who had been in control of the unpopular institution – lost 52 seats in the House and eight seats in the Senate. Perversely perhaps, the Republican Senate class that is coming up for re-election in 2006 under such negative circumstances is the same one swept into office in 1994 thanks in part to public disapproval of Congress. In a democracy, one must never forget that what the public gives, it can also take away.
Gotta Laff
Sure, someone ought to make them pay for something.
lb0313,
Me too. 100%. All four grandparents were from the Netherlands. I live in Muskegon, MI - near Holland and Grand Rapids. RCIA here - Graduated from Hope College and everything. But it never took all that well.
Hey, her eyes. Long time no see. (I am working on getting back to my "working" schedule - but it so hard to convince oneself to get up when you really do not have to . . .)
martini Svedka
Vodka?
Phil -
I think the war protestors from MO are the anti-gay folks that follow that Phelps pimp.
Tob-E Blow ME
lb0313,
It's mind-boggling that something hasn't happened in that regard already. With all the scandals (CoinGate, DSM, DeLay, etc.), and now the polls (thanks, JAC), maybe there's a glimmer of a shadow of a chance it'll all blow wide open soon.
I'm loving the Bush/GOP slide in the polls.
This clearly demonstrates how out of the mainstream Liberal values are.
pie -
Toby just doesn't get it, does he?
.
Vodka?
Yes indeedy.
.
Can anyone shed light on this? Please e-mail me if you can.
P. Woodford
This is in reference to a post by a Right Wing British Blogger who got Religious Right Wing Anti Gay Wackos confused with Left Wingers.
Can't remember the Guys name but he and his family/congregation travel around making total fools of themselves.
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DWD
I know the area well. Started plotting on how to NOT go to Calvin when I was 13.
I turned 18 the year 18 year olds could vote. Voted in my first primary, when the precinct votes were published there was only 1 democratic vote for each candidate and I left town.
What exactly the fuck is an "Islamofascist"?
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maybe there's a glimmer of a shadow of a chance it'll all blow wide open soon
Gotta Laff
From your lips...
What exactly the fuck is an "Islamofascist"?
A bad guy. Maybe a Muslim or a Democrat.
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Rmj, Wandering Aengus, I've always had a bit of trouble with Taoism. I don't think everything resolves into a balance, at least not in our experince.
Thank you for the thought provocation, though.
EPT
As the translation was by Merton, I'm not sure the interpretation is limited to Taoism (at least, I hadn't taken it that way).
Anyway....
What exactly the fuck is an "Islamofascist"?
Encyclopedia Britannica describes it as a first cousin of an Alamofascist.
This clearly demonstrates how out of the mainstream Liberal values are.
huh? Explain please.
hey DWD! how are you?
it is hard to wake up, if you don't have to..and then add to the day a fresh outrage...well, it's a wonder any of us get out of bed, ever!
but i'm encouraged. i think tide is turning...don't you?
Whomever Bush selects to replace Cheney, if he suddenly "retires due to health reasons", will be someone that is favored by the base.
Notice there were articles indicating Bush was asking the religious right for input on SOTUS appointments when a vacancy pops up?
Just like the Bush Admin going to the UN and admiting torture was being used on prisioners, but insisting it was at the hands of the lower enlisted ranks, not the officer corps or higher, so to will Cheney's successor appear as if by magic with full support of the base and no questions asked.
Me thinks the fix is already in, they're just manipulating reality and playing us all for fools.
But I do wonder...IF??? Doesn't the Congress have some "say" if Cheney steps down and Bush "appoints" another to take his place? I would think that Congress should have some say over an elected position being filled.
Sounds like Bush may be moving towards a confrontation with the Democrats in the Senate. Maybe the nuclear option is being primed to go off.
regards
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pie, something about that Toby post just screams Rove staffer to me. I believe he might have an inside line to the Rovehead. If so, boy what a flimsy line. I've seen rotten thread that was more dependable.
Are there "Buddhofascists"?
There most certainly are "Christofascists", but I never hear that term used on them...
Are there "Judeaofascists"?
"Baptofascists"?
"Lutherofascists"?
"Seventh Day Adventofascists"?
Just wondering out loud...
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spork_incident, no. And it's really bizarre to find that someone actually seems to believe this stuff.
He's been underground far too long. That boy don't know squat about squat.
Unitarian-Universalistofascists?
trolls suck.
jes' sayin'
Oh and St. Aengus. Haven't thought about him in donkey's years. Almost didn't notice.
EPT
Which is funny (no, really, no snark intended), a the reference was to Yeats.
St. Aengus. One never know, do one?
Toby does the funniest troll-parody on the ALL of the internets.
He's got it down pat: twisted logic, poor command of the facts, the hate speech, name-calling, the hackneyed, cliched "patriotic" phrasing, the fear of thinking, etc.
OK, which regular is REALLY Toby P?
I've been watching it awhile, and it's just pure genius . . .
St. Aengus. One never know, do one?
Rmj, Wandering Aengus
I plead Irish Catholic boy.
What exactly the fuck is an "Islamofascist"?
A bad guy. Maybe a Muslim or a Democrat.
spork_incident
Ah. Or a liberal.
Liberofascist.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isl...i/
Islamofascist
Atheofascists?
Agnostofascists?
Unitariofascists?
OMFG -- sheetz!
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I plead Irish Catholic boy.
EPT
No, I'm impressed.
Always learning something I didn't know. And always appreciating it.
Oops, guess I shoulda refreshed first...
Glenn Reynolds Out-Stupids Himself
I stray into Instadunce as rarely as possible, wishing to spare myself the antic-less antics of a performing flea with only a couple of tricks in its repertoire. But today my wanderings took me there--I must have been following a link--and in one sentence Reynolds disclosed an impressive depth of ignorance worthy of a hick hack.
Heh. Indeed.
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her eyes, yes, I believe the worm is starting to turn. I look forward to seeing you dance (BWG)
This concept of fascism as "palingenesis" is complementary with the idea of James Rhodes that fascism is a form of apocalyptic millenarianism; and with the work of Emilio Gentile where fascism is seen as a form of "political religion."
It's the millenium madness. Think turn of the century wingnuttery to the power of ten.
Phelps?
Rmj, looking him up just now I came across St. Fothad, who I didn't know. Suspected he might be the patron saint of our trolls but he turned out to be an intellectual.
Unitarian-Universalistofascists?
The Old Man From Scene 24
HA!
Is it possible to be a "Pacifascist"?
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Dangerous weirdness is on the march:
Ecumenical Gathering to Welcome Rev. Sun Myung Moon to New York Today, June 25; 50,000 Expected to Rally During Peacemaking Tour
The four-day, four-city tour, entitled "Now is God's Time" launches in New York's Jacob Javits Convention Center on Saturday, June 25. The next day, the coast-to-coast tour makes its second stop in Washington, DC, and moves to Chicago on Monday, June 27. The tour's final stop will be in Los Angeles on Tuesday, June 28. An estimated 50,000 people are expected to attend the four events; thousands more will participate by satellite link
...
Among the tour highlights is Moon's proposal for a "bridge of peace" to span the 51-mile Bering Strait between Alaska and Siberia, uniting the East and West. He envisions the proposed "Peace King Bridge" as uniting the human family as one community. Moon is no stranger to dramatic engineering proposals. In 1981 he called for a 128-mile undersea tunnel link between Japan and Korea. Test drillings and exploratory studies have been underway ever since.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/usnw/
200...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
poor command of the facts
Fast and loose is the word of the day for the Bush Boy Elite (Pee-Leet)
As in Toe-Bee Blow-Me and Bill Fulbright as racist and the troll I can't remember the name of that was attempting to refute the validity of the Pew poll vs. Rasmussen.
The latter trool said Pew had Kerry up on Bush 51-44 on 10-19 when the Pew website had the 2 deadlocked at 47-47 on that date.
day 6 of the million hit march skippy-a-thon continues:
listen to skippy the bush kangaroo's radio interview on wrfl, the univ. of kentucky's station, by ben carter of bluegrassroots.org.
skippy waxes befuddled on a number of subjects, including but not limited to, a mangled explanation of the downing street memos, ayn rand, putting christ back into christianity, half a masturbation joke, why blogging is important but not as important as the information itself (same goes for the main stream press), gov. ah-nold, black box voting, and the site's co-bloggers!
help skippy reach a million visitors by his third blogiversary on july 10! click away today!
Well, thats the official end of the my domestic bit - I just turned all the whites blue.
Damn tablecloth.
(... at least it isn't all red.)
That boy don't know squat about squat.
Thats funny.
Reminds me about the inability to find something, with a map, two hands, and a flashlight.
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Is it possible to be a "Pacifascist"?
Prolly not 
Rmj, looking him up just now I came across St. Fothad, who I didn't know. Suspected he might be the patron saint of our trolls but he turned out to be an intellectual.
You must be thinking of St. Fathead. Or maybe St. Foghat.
Eli - Saint Asshat?
I'll be damned - it's snowing again up high.
RMJ/Eli/Tena:
I actually have an Encyclopedia of Saints book if you want me to look a specific one up...
Great idle reading.
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Mister X - I have little paperback "Dictionary of Saints." Yours sounds better - but I agree, great idle reading.
Tena sez;
I'll be damned - it's snowing again up high.
Snow in June or July is pretty cool.
Not in January, though.
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Mister X - I have little paperback "Dictionary of Saints." Yours sounds better - but I agree, great idle reading.
Tena
Although there is a common thread that runs through a LOT of Saints' lives...
1 Suffer in life
2 Be tortured to death in some horrible way
3 Four hundred years later be appointed Saint
Sainthood. It's not for everybody...
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Will someone please inform Poor Billy Shithead that, yes, Bill Fulbright was a racist and a segregationist?
Or are y'all too embarrassed for him to correct his error?
Say, Mr. X, who's the patron saint of ergot? I've always meant to look that up.
Toby:
Grow the fuck up.
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Billy:
The latter trool said Pew had Kerry up on Bush 51-44 on 10-19 when the Pew website had the 2 deadlocked at 47-47 on that date.
Is that your idea of current events? Seeing as how you like History so much, why don't you go look up Fulbright's record as a segregationist?
spork_incident - I don't know but what it will be August before the snow up high is gone this year. There's still a lot of snow up there, and it continues to snow from time to time.
The trolls need to ask Saint Dymphna for intercession...
Tena -
I spent a lot of time in Wyoming and Colorado in my youth. To this day I think the Rockies are the most beautiful part of this country.
I envy you.
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Playing nice with a WARNING:
On the subject of honesty and resonsibility, but off topic. I have TWICE been burned by Impeach .org. After paying for bumper stickers, they were never delivered and they will NOT answer my emails of inquiry and protest.
Any one else having trouble with them? We all want impeachment, but Impeach.org is being slimy.
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