I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
lovely
I would still vote democratic and try my best to stop Bush.
I'd declare war on Mars.
What a loaded question!
Aliens threaten earth? Invade Iraq!!
The people have a right to know, I suppose, but I can't imagine how they'd react to learning about the Goa'uld.
I'd tell. Something that big would need to be known by the whole world.
I'd keep it secret, of course. Perhaps I'd consider telling certain allies about it in secret, but to tell the whole world out in the clear would be asinine.
Every time traveling book I've read always ends in shit.
So I think I'd destroy it.
Probably give up watching tv.
You know, I probably would. Not only would I tell the American public, I would do it at a time other than a late Friday afternoon.
I have more faith in folks than our current leaders do.
Thees Presidente?
He would prrrobably use the gate as a beeg garbage deesposal.
so.
It'd prove me fucking right!!
Tell.
Clearly, invade Iraq is the correct answer.
Come on Atrios, what makes you think they haven't done this already? Do you really think Bush and Cheney and Rumsfield and Delay and Frist are human?
The people have a right to know, I suppose, but I can't imagine how they'd react to learning about the Goa'uld.
I think mustard shit themselves.
DWD
Have you been reading the sites that claim they are reptilian aliens in disguise?
What would I do? Invade someone, why not?
Given that a slim majority of voting Americans actually elected Dubya this time around (or it was close enought that cheating matters), I think Diane's faith in the American public is misplaced.
Besides, this is not about having faith in people, this is about controlling information and power.
Students quit over anti-US slurs
By Ainsley Pavey
26jun05
AMERICAN students are quitting Queensland universities in the face of hate attacks by Australians angry at US President George W. Bush and the war in Iraq.
One university has launched an investigation into claims an American student returned to the US after suffering six months of abuse at a residential college in Brisbane.
American students have told The Sunday Mail the verbal attacks are unbearable and threatening to escalate into physical violence.
Griffith University student Ian Wanner, 19, from Oregon, said abusive Australian students had repeatedly called him a "sepo" – short for septic tank. "It is so disrespectful. It's not exactly the most welcoming atmosphere here," he said.
http://tinyurl.com/boj2s
I can't imagine ever being a president. I'm not electable. But if I was a hereditary queen or something I'd wait until I knew what the aliens were like. Then I'd tell, in some careful format that minimizes the panic.
There's no need to tell right away because if the aliens were more advanced killers they'd get us anyway within a second or two. If they were something else then it would make sense to study the question first.
The third alternative!
And after I had invaded somewhere, I'd ask Condi if she was up for a 3 Way with Katherin Harris.
Besides, this is not about having faith in people, this is about controlling information and power.
Griff
Isn't this a large part of the reason we're in the mess we're in right now?
I'd tell. First, because stuff always comes out anyway and you get in more trouble for the coverup than for the original thing. Second, because as Milton said, whoever knew truth put to second best when scattered to the four winds?
back in a bit.
I would use the masses' fear of aliens to my advantage and make me and my good ole buddies billions.
I'd tell the world. You couldn't keep it secret forever and it's too important to keep under one aegis.
A three way with Condi Rice and Katherine Harris?
You are a sick man, Barry.
Barry, they'd eat you up. Don't even imagine it.
I would occupy the Sudetenland.
Whoops sorry, wrong pop culture reference.
And after I had invaded somewhere, I'd ask Condi if she was up for a 3 Way with Katherin Harris.
Now I'd like to go back in time and kill myself before I read that and had that image fixed in my brain.
I'd blow the fucking thing up, if I had any brains and sense, which -- if i were a U.S. president -- I probably wouldn't. Instead, I'd probably sell access rights to Boeing and KBR for campaign contributions for the next century, or until the earth was invaded by the inevitable alien swarm.
I would keep it a secret and go back in the past and off Prescott Bush.
I would take grenades, and randomly toss them into different worlds via the stargate.
After each grenade, I would send through some sort of ideogram that, properly construed, would read:
"suck it, fuckos."
Toonscribe,
Nope. Power is not inherently wrong. Hell, power is a fundamental aspect of life. We are in the mess we're in because people have chosen to abuse their power. There's a difference.
Oh dear. I think it's time for Mr. Atrios to come home.
Actually, I'd probably emigrate to one of the alien planets and not tell anyone.
Isn't this a large part of the reason we're in the mess we're in right now?
Toonscribe
My feelings exactly, Toonscribe. Besides, people handled the news of Pearl Harbor rather well.
I'd visit a Caribbean island. and not come home 
...this question makes me think of Greg Bear's "Forge of God", actually. Stay quiet and keep your fucking head down, planet Earth.
I'd tell, but I'd want verifiable and accurate information.
"ohhhh, babe that was *so* good... now what was it you wanted to tell me?"
"you animal- how can you expect me to tell you about the latest intelligence finding entitled 'big alien determined to strike earth' after what we just did?!"
"whatever then...Kath, my chad's hanging low again...wanna punch it? Condi's a little *sore* right now... heh heh..."
BTW, Atrios, why aren't you doing something usefull, like catching up on the first 2 seasons of Arrested Development?
I'd tell, but I'd want verifiable and accurate information.
Sallyh, La Poissoniere
Aye, and there's the rub.
Still, I think human beans are capable of handling the concept of an expanded reality.
Griff
I beg to disagree. I think power is inherently dangerous -- which is why we tried to balance it in the Constitution. Even the use of power for good can walk a thin line as you can be tempted to push it "just a little" to overcome some difficulty to a worthy end -- think of FDR trying to enlarge and pack the Supreme Court. Power is like fire -- sure you can cook with it and light the darkness, but the dangerous potential of an out of control conflagration is always there.
I'd visit a Caribbean island. and not come home
At which point, the press would forget about the portal and the aliens and go on a massive "missing woman" jag.
Hopefully sexy gypsy lady is more coherent than hairy madman... Is better-looking, anyway.
I would not tell. I think the show got it largely right. There are people trying to take advantage of the program for personal gain, which would happen. But I don't think that the public would react well to knowing that there are people with ships that can destroy planets. However, the other argument is that it could galvanize the world since the idea of not killing each other hasn't caught on yet. Also knowing that there were people potentially taken over by snakes in the head would probably lead to witch hunts. But man, if I am going to be enslaved I hope the ruler looks like Nerti.
Oops, wrong thread. Was not trying to move devil tornadoblogging to this thread, sorry...
Eli--looks like no hot science babe action in this one. NTodd would have been disappointed had he not crashed.
I'd tell the world and put responsibility for it in the hands of an independent, international coalition of military people, peacekeepers and scientists.
Ty: Charles Pellegrino's "The Killing Star" is like that too.
Three simple laws of alien behavior:
1. Wimps don't become top dogs
2. There survival will be more important than our survival.
3. They will assume the first two laws apply to us.
Aliens are more likely to be Klingons then ET.
Eli--looks like no hot science babe action in this one. NTodd would have been disappointed had he not crashed.
Ah, that's okay. We can let the grown-ups have their wonky fun up here.
Nerd.
Just saying.
I think I might leave a nice letter and get the fuck out.
Marie Curie is the gold standard of hot science babes.
Atrios: Stargate? What if?
Erase this thread, and let us never speak of it again.
Did any of you read "The Time-Traveler's Wife"?
Good book but that life was pretty fucked up.
I'm sorry, can you frame this question somehow so that it relates to "Deadwood" instead?
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The Brookings Institute did a famous study about that question years ago. They concluded the American people would go berserk so it would be best to keep it secret.
Marie Curie is the gold standard of hot science babes.
Or at least the radium standard.
A more poignant question would be - if you were in a position of power in the military today and your forces discovered this capability... would you tell THIS president?
To quote somebody or other, sadly, no.
Would you tell the world or keep it secret, cocksucker
Is that better?
You always hear that people will go berserk, but frankly, I've never seen any convincing argument that they would.
A more poignant question would be - if you were in a position of power in the military today and your forces discovered this capability... would you tell THIS president?
To quote somebody or other, sadly, no.
I think the most effective strategy would be to convince them to hire Bush as a strategic advisor.
Marie Curie is the gold standard of hot science babes.
Or at least the radium standard.
Eli
I've researched nothing but glowing accounts of her accomplishments.
For the slow among us, the issue is not "is stargate true" the issue is "when are official secrets appropriate."
I think if the stargate became public knowledge, the Fred Phelps crew would show up the next day bearing signs reading: GOD HATES FAG ALIENS.
Nah, 'Murkans would go berserker.
I'm sorry, can you frame this question somehow so that it relates to "Deadwood" instead?
Cocksucker.
The whole show is kind-of an idiot show. Obviously they should tell everyone. The evil-aliens are incredibly crappy managers, they keep almost all their slave races in pre-industrial exsistences to prevent rebellion. If Earth milierized, in the context of the show, they could easily build thaousands of prometheous battleships instead of just one, and then just win the war against the aliens the old fashioned way.
The aliens are only a threat at all because earth is halfassing everything.
I've researched nothing but glowing accounts of her accomplishments.
Isotope so.
I think the most effective strategy would be to convince them to hire Bush as a strategic advisor.
==
A -Hahahahah. I'll write a letter!
I'd party like Bill Clinton on crack.
Re: people going berserk
It's like Hollywood disaster movies. In every fucking disaster movie, people go nuts looting and killing after a natural disaster. In real life, every time there is a major disaster, people tend to come together and help one another.
Aw, I like Stargate. But no, I would not tell. Our planet is populated with idiots. They would want to nuke everything out there and destroy the solar system.
And no dab burn alien best show his eye-stalked head around here or he'll be so full of hot lead.
Isotope so.
Eli
I periodically agree.
I am ordering you to cesium and desist from these awful chemistry puns.
I don't know this Stargate thing. Was this a TV deal based on the movie? I know that the movie had Jaye Davidson in it as a villain but he didn't flash his penis as a surprise, as he did in that Irish movie.
I would put a gerbil up Bush's butt, then have it jump out and chatter during every press conference. We would call this phenomenon Assgate.
rps -
thanks for the book title, I'll pick that up. You know, this is what bothered me about Atwood's Oryx and Crake. Crake genetically engineered "wimps" who would have to contend with any human survivors of his viral pandemic. They would inevitably be slaughtered at some future date, and any genetic engineer smart enough to create this new, peaceful race must have understood this.
I would put a gerbil up Bush's butt, then have it jump out and chatter during every press conference.
that would certainly be an improvement over Bush's previous press conference performances.
By the way you wouldn't have to do it, that's what they hired Gannon for.
I'm plumbum out of any argentable response.
"Mr. President, we have something tremendously important to show you--yes, go right up and touch it--"
"Whoopsie!"
"Sargeant, shut down power. Something's screwed up here, and I'm sealing the chsmber until we can figure it out."
"The President? I'm sure he's out clearing brush---somewhere---!"
I am ordering you to cesium and desist from these awful chemistry puns.
I guess they are a little boron.
Americans are idiots, I would never tell them because they couldn't handle it. Bushfuck would start an interplanetary war, no doubt. Smirking monkey.
Atrios, every damn night I take one of those little white pills called Ambien. Otherwise the knowledge of this incompetent nincompoop having the key to the nuclear arsenal keeps me from sleeping.
You ask if the government should keep secrets? Depends on the governmentm doesn't it? This one is nothing but secrets so I guess we know the answer don't we?
OTOHm there are few advantages to living in Podunk, MI. But one of these is surely that no one in their right minds gives a shit about what happens here - or does not happen here. I would say as a strategic target we are on a par with Minot, North Dakota.
If I were President, I would tell the world, "Mission Accomplished" and hope no one would bother to re-arrange the letters and find out it was really "cocaine-shod simplism."
fuck off kerry
DOH!
.
global pandemic anyone:
Bird flu 'as grave a threat as terrorism'
By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
26 June 2005
Bird flu is now as much of a danger to Britain as terrorism, ministers have been told by the Government's official emergency body.
Top officials from the Civil Contingency Secretariat (CCS), part of the Cabinet Office, told a cabinet subcommittee last week that a flu pandemic - which it believes could kill 700,000 Britons - is now one of the most serious threats facing the country.
Plans are being made to close schools and cancel sporting fixtures in an attempt to limit the spread of the virus, and official advice on how to try to avoid being infected will be ready for publication this summer.
Cobra, Britain's emergency committee, will co-ordinate attempts to fight the virus. But the Government accepts that, if the flu reaches Britain, there is no hope of stopping an epidemic, and that the only hope is to mitigate its effects.
The top-level warning comes as alarming evidence emerges from Asia that the virus, which has killed more than half of those known to have caught it, is spreading. Patchy reports from China and Vietnam suggest that the disease is affecting larger clusters of people, raising concern that it is mutating into a highly infectious strain that will sweep through the world. The World Health Organisation has warned that "the world is now in the gravest possible danger of a pandemic", while the Food and Agriculture Organisation calls it a "sword of Damocles" hanging over the globe.
Last week's warning was delivered by the CCS's head, Bruce Mann, to the cabinet subcommittee. The secretariat, which says its job is to "look for trouble", keeps tabs on about 100 potential threats from floods to major accidents in factories to a terrorist attack. It now rates bird flu as among the greatest of them all.
On the same day as the ministerial warning, Britain had its first official exercise to prepare for the epidemic. Operation Arctic Sea was staged in the East Midlands to test capabilities to deal with mass illness and death. Officials have also been scouring the country to find sites for mass mortuaries, but Sarah Webb, a regional health emergency planning adviser for the official Health Protection Agency, says that military bases which had been investigated for the purpose had been declared "off-limits" to them "because of Iraq activities".
Official advice is being prepared to help people to cut the risk of catching the disease - including simple hygiene, staying at home, and avoiding gatherings of people - and local authorities are urged to get prepared. But Steve Miller, the head of public protection for the London Borough of Newham, told a seminar organised by the Chartered Institute of Environmental Health last week that there was still "some lethargy".
I guess they are a little boron.
really. these terrible puns are making me sulphur something terrible.
Late to the thread, but here's my
two cents --
Best sci-fi show ever.
Mostly because, despite lots of
serious sci-fi issues, it's written in
collloquial contemporary English,
and often it's really funny.
Name a space opera show since the
original Star Trek that had a
real sense of humor.
(Hitchhikers doesn't count).
Can't be done, except for this
one.
We have transmitted radio signals from earth since 1920, so right now aliens 85 light years out know that Warren Harding was elected President.
If that does not scare them to death, what will?
This president, and especially this Vice-president, would keep it a secret... no cabe duda!
...what would you do if you were president? Would you tell the world or keep it secret?
You realize this is what got JFK killed?
really. these terrible puns are making me sulphur something terrible.
Should we stop and let the helium begin, then?
i'd convene a special session of the UN security council, in which I'd inform the members of only the barest details and that I would go forward with full disclosure in two months time. ready your citizens accordingly. I'd take that time to lay down the law, so to speak, about gate usage. I.E., it belongs to us, but usage agreements can be reached pending treaties regarding fair use, adoption of tech, ect. (must make assumption that some other country might manage to find another gate somewhere. head off an arms race on earth...) After so informing the security council and getting the ball rolling...(having been fully prepared for an instant leak--to inform the american public of basic story the first moment that happens....) Inform the general assembly and any remaining governments soonafter. Get the basic format of fair use and non-weaponization treaties up. (maybe this could be done ahead of time in the guise of arms control treaties that are worded so as to cover all the alien tech/invasion bases as well. i.e., act a little crazy, then back off, play nice, promise to be nice if only people sign treaties so that everyone would play fair. lock those up...THEN go to the security council...) Whole point being to make sure everyone on earth understands the situation. To gear up the whole world to see evidence of aliens, to use that evidence to promote a new unity. To get the world to work using the more beneficial technologies to better life for everyone. (thereby also preparing populace for any impending invasion.) the biggest new mission would be farming out the lesser tech to as many orgs and institutions as possible to let peoiple play with it. let them see what they can come up with. application for an influx of new tech should be all over the map. devising new Defensive military tech would be meted out to parties which could make use of it as governed by new fairness doctrine. Tech deemed too potentially destructive would be kept under wraps indefinitely, or until treaties and partners can be trusted, or threat warrants it. As this dribbles out though, we would, rightly, be accused of holding back. some diplomatic strongarming would be required until a new normal has been reached amongst the populations of various countries and cultures such that a united front is more important than strict national borders. This again could be incentivised witgh use of non-lethal tech. Such as power sources which free up workers and allow more efficient transport and agriculture, ect. could create a whole new economy in a decade or two if energy became "free." not sure if the tech would come close to any such thing though,,,
well, this is all just brainstorming. no sense to it really. but given a few months plans could be devised to make the most of such revelations. there's always a right thing to do and always a best way to do it. just might take some thought.
apologies for sloppy typing/thinking.
Name a space opera show since the
original Star Trek that had a
real sense of humor.
"Space 1999"?
Oh wait - you mean sense of humor on purpose!
We have transmitted radio signals from earth since 1920, so right now aliens 85 light years out know that Warren Harding was elected President.
Sell Ford short, for fuck's sake!
Should we stop and let the helium begin, then?
do as you wish, it's none of my bismuth.
Jeepers H. Christmas! I was hanging out at a stupid Sci-fi thread when all you good libs were upstairs having fun without me? Oy farking vey.
sorry, the new Battlestar Galactica is teh best sci-fi show evar. And I mean, EVAR.
The question: "when are official secrets appropriate?"
I suppose it depends on who defines a "secret" -- in the case of GW Bush, a secret is anything that smacks of the truth. Flag draped coffins are an "official secret."
An official secret might be considered appropriate if public knowledge of it were to result in the loss of innocent lives.
For me, it goes back to who is making the definition and if that person or group has the trust of the public.
When are official secrect appropriate?
Winston Churchill
"Name a space opera show since the
original Star Trek that had a
real sense of humor.
(Hitchhikers doesn't count).
Can't be done, except for this
one.
steve simels "
farscape much?
what does a Frenchman say about his new Peugeot?
Carbon!
apologies for sloppy typing/thinking.
blue jean
Good grief, with a tour de force like that you needn't worry about typos.
I stand in awe.
farscape much?
Meh. Now, Babylon 5, on the other hand...
Human beings like to think they're somehow special and above the plant and animal world. The bird flu is coming to remind you all we're all still just part of the food chain.
dave:
The chick with the sideburns....
that was pretty funny.
Name a space opera show since the
original Star Trek that had a
real sense of humor.
Lost in Liddy's Colon
...dang!
Winston Churchill:
It has now become a matter of accepted fact, at least among the British public, that on the night of 14 - 15 November 1940, rather than compromise a decisive source of intelligence, Winston Churchill allowed the city of Coventry to be left to the mercies of the German Air Force.
tell the world...but oh yes I am thinking of the science history implications not the money greed
reppuke angle
What did Rush Limbaugh say to Bush's daughter?
Oxygen?
"Welcome to Entropy Burgers -- may I take your order?"
"I put in disorder a long time ago. The service here is getting worse all
the time."
Actually, you guys are right --
Farscape did have a sense of humor.
Which is why it's cool that
Ben Browder and Claudia Black
are gonna be on Stargate.
Actually, First Wave was funny
from time to time as well.
Except in the episodes with Traci
Lords.
Those were totally serious!!!!!!
Did you hear the one about the chemist reading the book on helium?
He only meant to do some light reading but he couldn't put it down.
Darryl Pearce, Yes, that is true and my dear friend in Coventry is still mad about it.
Every year on the date oak leaves are gathered and brought to the top of the cathedral and released - one for every person killed that night.
BTW, when I heard Rumsfailed the other day, he neglected to compare his lot to Churchill. But he did manage to get Lincoln, Washinton, and Eisenhower in there. (Delusions are the cheapest form of theater.)
Not tell.
Then try and meet Carter.
what a surprise, the bush agriculture dept held back findings of mad cow for seven months. wanna bet the cattle markets crash on monday?
For Months, Agriculture Department Delayed Announcing Result of Mad Cow Test
By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr. and ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO
Although the Agriculture Department confirmed Friday that a cow that died last year was infected with mad cow disease, a test the agency conducted seven months ago indicated that the animal had the disease. The result was never publicly disclosed.
The delay in confirming the United States' second case of mad cow disease seems to underscore what critics of the agency have said for a long time: that there are serious and systemic problems in the way the Agriculture Department tests animals for mad cow.
Indeed, the lengthy delay occurred despite the intense national interest in the disease and the fact that many countries have banned shipments of beef from the United States because of what they consider to be lax testing policies.
Until Friday, it was not public knowledge that an "experimental" test had been performed last November by an Agriculture Department laboratory on the brain of a cow suspected of having mad cow disease, and that the test had come up positive.
For seven months, all that was known was that a test on the same cow done at the same laboratory at roughly the same time had come up negative. The negative result was obtained using a test that the Agriculture Department refers to as its "gold standard."
The explanation that the department gave late Friday, when the positive test result came to light, was that there was no bad intention or cover-up, and that the test in question was only experimental.
"The laboratory folks just never mentioned it to anyone higher up," said Ed Loyd, an Agriculture Department spokesman. "They didn't know if it was valid or not, so they didn't report it."
On hearing that Friday night, Dr. Michael K. Hansen, a senior research associate at Consumers Union and frequent department critic, reacted skeptically.
"That seems hard to fathom," he said. "If it's true, we have a serious communication problem at the Department of Agriculture. How can we be confident of anything they're saying?"
Mr. Loyd, reacting to a reporter's question about the Agriculture Department's handling of the issue, said, "In hindsight, reporting it would have been the thing to do."
Steve, did the US Mail arrive this day?
The service here is getting worse all the time."
This should be Congressionally mandated to be the synoptic phrase on Shrub's memorial.
I think the bird flu is a conspiracy by the powers that be to get rid of many excess eaters.
Sex Alert:
CNN's doing a story on "Christian Sex Toys". No shit.
A company called "True Romance" is giving Tupperware-esque sex toy parties in the Bible Belt.
One woman claimes vibrators are "part of God's plan" to "grow my family".
I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP!!!
"For the slow among us, the issue is not "is stargate true" the issue is "when are official secrets appropriate."
Atrios | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 10:44 pm | #"
I would say that governmental "official secrets" could be considered appropriate (even essential) if they were necessary for the defense of the nation -- this would be a judgement call, of course, but one ought to be able to tell the difference between defense of the nation & being an embarrassment to the government (a distinction that it seems hard for governments to grasp)
aelred@net-link.net
What is Monty Python's favorite element?
Nickel (Ni).
Oh, yeah: NERDS!
official secrets are never appropriate. either we have government by,of, and for the people, or we don't.
State Secrets and democracy are incompatible.
what would you do if you were president? Would you tell the world or keep it secret?
I would hope to gather the collected wisedom of trusted allies. Something the USA no longer has. Bu$hCo has been the posterchild of the trouble with evasion and secrecy. Fuck those rat bastards.
The chick with the sideburns....
that was pretty funny.
Was she the alien they added in the season Freiberger took over (now that's geekspeak!)?
Hey, and speaking of crappy syndicated early-70s sci-fi, I give you -- "The Starlost"!
Cordwainer Bird lives!!!
Here's what the "derb" would do (from the "korner" over at NRO):
As conservatives we are of course all watchful for, and suspicious of, overweening state power. Governments do sometimes need to be able to act, though. The Tory in me appreciates what a British Prime Minister (though not a Tory) once called "the smack of firm government," when it's appropriate.
I love that line he uses: "the smack of firm government."
I think the Derb likes to play a bit rough with the boys, eh?
Damn that permeable loop! I've completely lost the thread of our cinematic masterwork tonight, but it's more fun this way.
Steve, did the US Mail arrive this day?
DWD | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 11:06 pm | #
What I think you're hinting at
didn't arrive, but I'm awaiting
Monday with breathless
anticipation.
I would like to apologize for the terrible quality of the above chemistry puns.
We were doing asbestos we could.
I think the bird flu is a conspiracy by the powers that be to get rid of many excess eaters.
Incog
hmmm, what over-populated countries, lacking in domestic infrastructure would likely be hardest hit by a pandemic?
what would you do if you were president?
Cut taxes?
For the slow among us, the issue is not "is stargate true" the issue is "when are official secrets appropriate."
Okay, it's a worthy question. My answer is that honesty is the best policy. Ben said so, ergo it must be true. Unless secrecy will keep us safe from aliens -- you don't specify and I can't see why it would -- I would shout it from the rooftops.
I still say it's time for Mrs. Atrios to come home.
The man says "It's over..."
And lo, the women flocked upon him.
One woman claimes vibrators are "part of God's plan" to "grow my family".
except when she realizses that "slinky" has a better bedside manner than Mr. missionary position.
"Good grief, with a tour de force like that you needn't worry about typos.
I stand in awe.
Diane"
gwa? *shyly digs toe into ground, clasps hands behind back* aw shucks. thanks.
what would you do if you were president?
Propose a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage AND cut taxes?
dave:
Yes, I believe the actress was
Catherine Schell (related to
Maximillian????)
And don't even get me started
on the Starlost -- Walter Koenig
and Harlan Ellison's worst moments!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Ok disaster may have been averted ( Ifucking hope so).
ANyway.
WHat's to say that this or any other president has found something like this in his presidential breifing upon taking office.
There *is* much that the government does keep secret,beyond what this crew has taken to new heights.
Sex Alert:
CNN's doing a story on "Christian Sex Toys". No shit.
Shut UP!!!!! My farking head hurts.
hmmm, what over-populated countries, lacking in domestic infrastructure would likely be hardest hit by a pandemic?
wait a minute....I think I know the answer to this one....the state of Texas?
what would you do if you were president?
Overturn Roe v. Wade, AND popose a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage AND cut taxes?
Confiscate the assets of Rethuglicans and build a huge laser cannon to destroy the aliens, taking target practice on Halliburton first.
Ohmigosh --
it just dawned on me --
how did the satanic tornado
live blogging go tonite?
we have access to ancient technology that allows us to travel to other planets, aliens exist and potentially threaten Earth - what would you do if you were president? Would you tell the world or keep it secret?
I'd keep it secret because I'd use the technology to travel back in time to about 1945 so I could crank call Babs and HW incessantly - right around "bedtime", if ya get my drift.
I would harvest the aliens eggs and create a hybrid super-human race.
Name a space opera show since the
original Star Trek that had a
real sense of humor.
Farscape.
Loved that show.
As to the original question, yes I would tell. Something like this is too big to keep from people.
Now, were StarGate actually true... well, what I would do is quietly cruise around until I found a suitable planet, then go there with a bunch of atriots and shut the door behind me.
We were doing asbestos we could.
Iron-y is not dead.
Would you tell the world or keep it secret?
I'd meet with allies to share intelligence, develop a plan, then hold a joint press conference to alert the public.
But I'm pretty sure "cut taxes" is the correct answer.
BREAKING NEWS:
As America fidgets about one lost woman, here is a woman who was blown up in Iraq:Charette
That is her name. No headlines? Well...indeed. She is the Invisible Woman. I am THE FIRST to publish her picture for I found no pictures of her on the web, this is from the official Marine page which talks about her being alive still, they didn't even bother to UPDATE IT.
Hahahahahahahaha.
Even with the new PREVIEW button, I still typo my ass off. Hoo boy.
I'd keep it secret.
What would you gain by telling everyone?
A paranoid, angry citizenry.
official secrets are never appropriate. either we have government by,of, and for the people, or we don't.
State Secrets and democracy are incompatible.
Mrs. Ibrahim al-Jaafari
What Mrs. I a-J said.
What movie is this on Channel 13?
Um, how about using the Stargate to get rid of the Rethugs? We could round them up and send them to another planet that was ruled for 300 years by neo-cons...unfortunately, that planet would be trashed, but hey, the rethugs deserve to live in such a place.
how did the satanic tornado
live blogging go tonite?
For me, not well.
My laptop will only set its clock to my home network so I couldn't get on a current page.
And I was too lazy to get off the couch to walk over to my desk.
The movie sucked anyway. Not nearly enough grisly dying and no hot science babes.
What Would Toby Do?
I would tell the people, because I honestly believe in that ol' saw about "power to the people."
In other important news, Maxx loves vanilla ice cream.
CNN's doing a story on "Christian Sex Toys". No shit.
Shut UP!!!!! My farking head hurts.
You're doing it wrong.
Elaine, thanks. I read her name the other day and was saddened. I am sorry, no one named Holly - a name evoking warm fires and Christmas cheer - should be killed in this continuing clusterfuck.
What Would Toby Do?
We can hope he would accidentally use it to get sucked into the center of a sun.
I dont think I could say it better than the posted way up who said it so eloquently.
Why keep the most important discovery in the entire human history from all peoples of the earth?
If your a fan of stargate,you might remember an episode where the stargate becomes public and is made into a typ of terminal where inhabiatnats are gated back and forth throughout the galaxy.
In that episode there is an evil plot twist,but its essence is pure bliss and has the makings of a truely incredible society.
Too bad this civilisation is not yet capable of such harmony,yet some discovery of a thing like that could be a history turner.
I dream of such discovery,as I really think such a scenario is possible.
And don't even get me started
on the Starlost -- Walter Koenig
and Harlan Ellison's worst moments!!!
Was Koenig involved, too? Oh my God!
BTW, did you check out the comments under the description of the first episode at that site I linked to? The head writer of "Starlost" had plenty to say about ol' Cordwainer... I esp. liked this:
...the station had, however, enormous problems with Ellison. I think he suffered from inflated ego.
Ah, that dry Canadian wit!
Intresting synchronicity. Art will be discussing the 'disclosure' question tonight on his radio program with his guest:
Retired Command Sergeant Major Robert O. Dean (beyondzebra.com) will be discussing aliens, governmental disclosure, the future of our national security, and the U.S. Constitution.
So, has everyone decided that Avatar suck and no one told me? (Feeling a little sheepish - might have to go the lamb or well. . . ewe know.)
I know what Toby wouldn't do and that's enlist! We could have aliens running down the middle of the street firing their laser weapons at random and he still wouldn't enlist.
Maybe Billy Graham will reveal the correct answer tomorrow night, when he expounds on "the end of the world" during his "last crusade."
Wonder whether the lameducking will attend ...
So, has everyone decided that Avatar suck and no one told me? (Feeling a little sheepish - might have to go the lamb or well. . . ewe know.)
I can't see them- they're too little.
dave:
Some other night, when I haven't
been nipping at elitist chardonnay,
ask me to tell you my Harlan
Ellison story.
Um, how about using the Stargate to get rid of the Rethugs? We could round them up and send them to another planet that was ruled for 300 years by neo-cons...unfortunately, that planet would be trashed, but hey, the rethugs deserve to live in such a place.
How about opening the gate to that black hole Carter created?Neocon's and black holes are a match made in "heaven"
I'd beg them to send me to another planet. I'm tired of this one.
I say tell the world.
Who the fuck cares? We have a fucking fascist junta that is totally itching to nuke the world and probably will, after it's gitmo-ized all of us.
I can't even get into art or imagination anymore. All I can get into is my animals, my dog and cat and goats.
Cordwainer Bird?
Ellison is such a putz. I bet he's a Republican. He stole that name from Dr. Paul Linebarger.
http://www.cordwainer-smith.com/.../
foundation.htm
We could have aliens running down the middle of the street firing their laser weapons at random and he still wouldn't enlist.
Nah, but he's be supportive of all of our efforts to defeat the alien invaders by thinking about it very, very hard.
He'd clap a lot too.
I selenium the puns have been lead to the clearing at the end of the path.
What movie is this on Channel 13?
monica_nyc
Richard III
Ocean's Eleven (the original one) is on at 12:30.
I'd let my vice-president's company make money off it.
Thersites and NYMary say hello!
Cordwainer Smith.
Greatest sci-fi writer of the 60s.
Psychedelic before psychedelic was
cool.
4LG, mine is a picture I took of the Muskegon Light House in a storm with the word TRUTH written above it.
A long time ago - eons by Internet time - on the old Prodigy network (1986 I think.)a bunch of regulars at the writers' room took Latin names: mine was Veritas.
(With Bush in the WH, everything seems stupid now though)
She is the Invisible Woman. I am THE FIRST to publish her picture for I found no pictures of her on the web, this is from the official Marine page which talks about her being alive
Ahhh, Elaine the spunky! Going for broke once again. You are the female Forrest Gump of our times.
how do you crucify yourself?
I can't even get into art or imagination anymore.
I can -- giving up imagination is a luxury that I can't afford.
The situation in the U.S. was worse for some of our ancestors. Why should we give up something that's vital about ourselves because of this fucking cowardly regime?
_______
Thanks, bkny. I kinda guessed it when the actors began to speak.
To answer the question Duncan set out
Create a stunning golf course on some exotic planet. Create junket brochures. Send same to all neo-con, hard right, ultra christian republicans with a personalized invitation to the grand opening. Transport them to their destination. Turn off machine, place next to the Arc of the Covenent in Federal Warehouse. Chew and swallow all shipping documents. Go on about life in a pleasant fashion.
I'd let my vice-president's company make money off it.
Thersites and NYMary say hello!
watertiger | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 11:33 pm | #
So where are you guys?????
I wonder if cats wouldn't be frightened to go through the star gate?
Covenant I meant
We have learned that the planet Earth is too small for wingnuts and moonbats to live together.
We have learned that the Universe is too small for wingnuts and moonbats to live together.
We have learned that all of the alternate-realities and divergent-timelines are too few for wingnuts and moonbats to live together.
We have learned that all reality and fiction remain too small for wingnuts and moonbats to live together. All manner of mind-altering, memory-erasing drug have proved vain and futile in getting wingnuts and moonbats to live together.
Go on about life in a pleasant fashion.
And what of the Christian sex toys?
So where are you guys?????
I just said goodbye to them. We were in Chelsea having a late dinner. They had der kinder with them, so it wasn't a long visit.
I left a rambling message on your machine. Sorry. Head's been foggy all day.
I wonder if cats wouldn't be frightened to go through the star gate?
Cats probably *invented* the Stargate.
I'm thinking about getting some goats for the compound. There's large fenced-in areas with weeds higher than your head. They eat weeds.
4lg
Wouldn't you be more concerned about what they would bring back and drop at your feet?
Monica-
It is Richard III set in 1930s England (if England was fascist). Great stuff.
Incog,
Goats make the best lawn mowers.
monica
Sex Toys?
Eh?
What?
Are we havign to deal with that too?
We were in Chelsea having a late dinner.
Really? I was *sure* I saw you guys at the Dyke Ball.
I'd tell the world, if only just to see how every major religion contorts its meaning to either support their beliefs or see how they demonize the thing because it brings up questions of the validity of dog... i mean.. of god.
or at least the whole concept thereof.
WWID? Tell the truth as I understood it.
An interesting exercise governments should try, now and then.
Cats probably *invented* the Stargate.
Along with the game of hockey.
And no, I wouldn't worry about what they would bring back.
He stole that name from Dr. Paul Linebarger.
Well, it was more of an "in" joke. Ellison used to use the name "Cordwainer Bird" as a nom de plume for works he felt had been fucked with by "the suits." The "Cordwainer" was a tribute and the "Bird" was his middle finger.
As for Ellison being a Republican, nothing could be farther from the truth!
You're doing it wrong.
The Old Man From Scene 24
Hahahahaha. Dang, I'll get the hang of it yet!
Really? I was *sure* I saw you guys at the Dyke Ball.
The wilting heat promised for tomorrow doesn't bode well for all those poor drag queens in full makeup...
Yeah, Steve, sober up and tell me that Ellison story!
BTW, I was reading his "bible" for "Starlost" on that site... actually wasn't half bad! If he could have pulled it together the way he wanted...!
4lg
I would be concerned.
I see myself explaining one more time to my tom, thank you for the representative of a superior but tiny species, but please not in my bed and take him back immediately.
At which my tom supplies his standard sage answer "Meow?" shrugs and stomps off looking hurt.
Name a space opera show since the
original Star Trek that had a
real sense of humor.
Blake's 7, of course.
I left a rambling message on your machine. Sorry. Head's been foggy all day.
watertiger | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 11:38 pm | #
Not to worry -- I have one of those
cheapo digital answering machines
and I could barely make out a word
you were saying. Seriously, it
sounded like you were broadcasting
from a doomed submarine or something.
Oh well -- one of these days we'll
meet again, hopefully before
Eschcacon.
I'd give the scoop to the Weekly World News. then I'd send Uncurious George to help the enemy. He would surely mess up any plans they had
Goats are eating machines, true. But they're picky and browsy and nibbly. There's a whole bunch of weed patches in their little pasture that I was sure they'd demolish in a day, but they have no interest in. On the other hand, if I could lay one of my mighty poplar trees on its side, they'd finish the damn thing in a day.
The movie sucked anyway. Not nearly enough grisly dying and no hot science babes.
four legs good
Evenin' batties.
Did any of you guys inform SciFi management of this lapse? I'm pretty sure its against the rules for bad SciFi Saturday movies *not* to have a Hot Science Babe.
Doctor Who, as well.
Greetings again. More peanut butter chocolate chip cookies, anyone?
Maxx is sitting in my lap, having decided that it's more fun to act like a cat than hide under the bed.
Surely having a kitty in your lap purring is one of the most sublime pleasures ever.
Uh oh...
Here comes teevees news newest hit parade.
Tsunami aid 'went to the richest'
A survey by Oxfam found that aid had tended to go to businesses and landowners, exacerbating the divide between rich and poor.
But then again,maybe not.
A very short article and really has very little information in it.
Just another sign of the times,I guess.
Surely having a kitty in your lap purring is one of the most sublime pleasures ever.
four legs good | 06.25.05 - 11:46 pm | #
==
Mmm, yes. And I'll have a cookie please!
Ted Handsome is keeping cool under my desk.
Maxx's fur is growing back already.
I can see where his stripes will be- it's quite funny.
Okay
Haloscan is being a pest, this is the third try.
Dr Who.
Of course funny.
I think I meant American sci-fi
shows that were funny.
But in reality I was just babbling
without quality control.
I regret the error.
4Legs--is Max purring in your arms? Aww!
damn holoscan
what the human race needs is a buggy looking alien race that treats us like cattle. after eating a quarter of us and leave, maybe we will feel a kinship to everyone no mater what they look like. If i had the stargate all to myself, i wouldnt tell noon. id get riches, technology, that would ruler of the world.
Another thing that gives me comfort is ntodd's atriots page. You dudes aren't just typed shit on a computer screen. So cool.
America's Greatest Hero
If that qualifies as scifi.
Surely having a kitty in your lap purring is one of the most sublime pleasures ever.
four legs good
'Specially when you had to work to earn the trust of said kitty.
Good work, big bro'. 
maxine bodine needs a bath. she's very stinky, and we are all out of pooch shampoo.
Ibrahim is away at a conference, so maxine's odor is less of an issue than it might be, but still, she smells bad.
4Legs--is Max purring in your arms? Aww!
He's really quite sweet.
He slept on my bed last night.
peanut butter chocolate chip cookies
oh, yes. Thanks, sallyh!
'Specially when you had to work to earn the trust of said kitty.
He'll hate me again when I have to pill him later.
""how do you crucify yourself?"
Really, you can never get the last nail in.
RE: Ellison.
many years ago, Budwieser introduced 8 ounce cans of beer.
My fellow SF fans back in Wickord referred to them as "Harlans"
What better name for a bitter, impotent half pint?
4Legs--is Max purring in your arms? Aww!
Sallyh, La Poissoniere | Homepage
| 06.25.05 - 11:49 pm | #
Don't torture me, babe!
For anybody interested, String has turned into a traitor cat. She likes my sister's partner more than me now. Christy's been playing with her.
My damn cat is in the sheddiest season ever. He spends some time in my lap, you can barely make me out afterward.
Night bats. Keep the fires of humanity burning.
Some days - actually *most* days, kitties are the only conduit to Truth. Love me them kitties.
I'd also set up the longest customs check in station in the history of the universe. They would have to go through some serious shit if they wanted to attack us.
Munch, munch says Haloscan...
He'll hate me again when I have to pill him later.
four legs good
Hiding it in his treats didn't work, huh?
Surely having a kitty in your lap purring is one of the most sublime pleasures ever.
four legs good
Heh, I have one in my lap as well. The vet opines that Homie is just about 4 weeks old. That may be so, but for a little fella, he sure as one big purr box.
You know sometimes looking at how Bush is acting, I think he did just find this out.
I've been watching eps of the Logan's Run TV series. It's not for the "squeamish".
Oh yeah, and a toll booth
String has turned into a traitor cat. She likes my sister's partner more than me now.
New faces, Incog. Kitties are naturally curious - she'll be back when the novelty wears off.
Tsunami aid 'went to the richest'
A survey by Oxfam found that aid had tended to go to businesses and landowners, exacerbating the divide between rich and poor.
Smalfish, that's karma at work. The energy always goes that way. Some fools exhaust themselves trying to get ahead, but it's of no use... I did the same thing and gave up. Wealth happens to the few, the rest have a foot in the face. I'm more at peace having accepted this.
That may be so, but for a little fella, he sure as one big purr box.
Diane
And in the top 3 or 4 cutest baby felines on this blog....
Yes, I believe the actress was
Catherine Schell (related to
Maximillian????)
No relation. Her birth name was Katherina Schell von Bauschlott...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0770711/bio
Flory,
Thanks, he is cute.
My big dog (lab-mix-mutt) is absolutely enthralled with him. Fortunately, I am a liberal and have no objections to inter-species dating.
Isn't the eternal cat question: Do cats purr because we pick them up, or do we pick them up because they purr ?
The 1st year of Space:1999 was pretty good, but the 2nd was crap.
Another thing that gives me comfort is ntodd's atriots page. You dudes aren't just typed shit on a computer screen. So cool.
Thanks for the re-link.I did'nt save it previously.Have now.
Hiding it in his treats didn't work, huh?
No, he's decided he doesn't like his treats.
Surely having a kitty in your lap purring is one of the most sublime pleasures ever.
four legs good
I'm with you when its the dead of winter, but bitsie(the hutt) is way to warm for me this time of year. Its like burning hot magma on your lap. Usually after I toss her 12-15 times she gets the idea. Brownie's got a year pass though
Hey, sci-fi geeks, this one's for you:
Greatest beams of all time!
Back to the question of reveiling a Stargate to the public; yes, if done as was mentioned above by someone apparently much more nerdier than I am. I do likes to watch the ole' Stargate SG-1, and even Stargate Atlantis. Oh well, sue me.
I'm more at peace having accepted this.
...many years ago, Budwieser introduced 8 ounce cans of beer.
My fellow SF fans back in Wickord referred to them as "Harlans"
What better name for a bitter, impotent half pint?
HI-YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
(Oh, and Doc? Love the jacket!)
I'm watching this film on HBO "The Girl in the Cafe"
It's really quite good.
I would still invade Iraq.
Atrios!!
PUT DOWN THE BONG!!!!
Would have too... falsely declare that other planets have WMD and then invade them and take their oil. So... I'd have to tell. I wants me that alien oil!
I'd do what O'Neill and Teal'c did in the time loop episode and use it to practice my golf swing. :-}
What would I do if I were President? Isn't it obvious? I'd tell the American public I had absolute proof that the aliens had WMD aimed at us and that their leader was worse than Hitler and we had to create a new paradigm of democracy in that part of the universe and that freedom is on the march and we can't wait for a smoking gun and....and....
And it's time for me to go to bed
I linked to it earlier, but those didn't catch the Klein smackdown, media matters has the transcript.
What? Does one email ones picture to NTodd?If one wants to have ones picture posted at the atriots page?
I do likes to watch the ole' Stargate SG-1, and even Stargate Atlantis. Oh well, sue me.
dumass libural
Hey, I was watching a TIVO'd episode of SG1 from last night as I was reading this thread.
If I were President in that situation I would use it to create a show about alien technology that allowed the President to create a show about the President having alien technology.
What? Does one email ones picture to NTodd?If one wants to have ones picture posted at the atriots page?
smalfish©
Yep.
I think truth is just always the best choice, so yeah, I'd tell them. Everyone has a right to know. Information shouldn't belong just to certain people.
Psychedelic before psychedelic was
cool.
steve simels
Ubik! - Philip K. Dick
Introduced in the small commercials that serve as epigraphs to each chapter (where it is in turn presented as a make of car, a brand of beer, a brand of instant coffee, et alia), Ubik finally enters the narrative itself as a mysterious spray in an aerosol can that seems to be the most powerful "reality support" available, the only force capable of at least temporarily reversing the processes of regression and death. In the end, this strange but paradigmatic commodity is identified with theological mystery: "I am Ubik. Before the universe was, I am.... I am. I shall always be."
--------
Psychedelic before cool was psychedelic.
-
My older sister and I had a brief unpleasant encounter with Harlan Ellison at a Worldcon several years back. He was gratuitously nasty and it was a strain to keep a straight face towards his would-be macho posturing. The man can write but he is a major jerk.
Does one email ones picture to NTodd?If one wants to have ones picture posted at the atriots page?
Yes. The polite form of the request must be "post my picture on the Atriots page right fucking now you maple syrup snorting bastard." Sounds weird, I know. But that's the standard formula.
All the answers to this question are on "Invader Zim", you know.
Honesty is the best policy.
P.S. How could an invisible man see if his retinas didn't absorb light?
He'll hate me again when I have to pill him later.
four legs good
Hiding it in his treats didn't work, huh?
flory | 06.25.05 - 11:56 pm | #
Sgt Mango is on a 2 a day pill for 10 day regimen, too. He hates it. It's pretty easy to get them down his throat, now, though. Catching him when I have a pill in my hand, is the big problem. He knows where I keep the pill envelope, and knows what it means when I'm over there. He runs to the bay window and gets up there. The table is in the way so it's back and forth, back and forth, we go.
Quentin - Didn't Dick go more than a little crazy at the end?
If I were President in that situation I would use it to create a show about alien technology that allowed the President to create a show about the President having alien technology.
the Popular Front For the Liberation of Alien Technology would have no choice but to send you to a re-re-education camp.
Smalfish, that's karma at work. The energy always goes that way. Some fools exhaust themselves trying to get ahead, but it's of no use... I did the same thing and gave up. Wealth happens to the few, the rest have a foot in the face. I'm more at peace having accepted this.
One very early morning, about 20 years ago, I turned on the TV and caught Jim Bakker on the PTL Club explaining the "law of reciprocity" - if you gave money to his ministry, Jesus would make you rich! During the segment, he showed video of audience members who indeed got lucky (as I recall, some woman won the lottery). It was one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen in my life.
Quentin - Didn't Dick go more than a little crazy at the end?
Tena
It's all crazy.
Yes. The polite form of the request must be "post my picture on the Atriots page right fucking now you maple syrup snorting bastard." Sounds weird, I know. But that's the standard formula.
Ok,but will he respond if I say "fuck"?
Oh,and does anyone have his email addy?
the new iteration of hello kitty scan never asks the $64,000 question. I don't, in fact, know who I am. thus the anonymous snark above.
hell, I gotta dozen Harlan stories, starting from the first time we met, a long long time ago... but I'd rather not share them here. Maybe in the fullness of time...thing is, I do love the man like a brother. An annoying, combative, too damn smart for his own good brother, but a brother none the less. He can be a loyal friend, a strong mentor, and I admire him for that.
oldwhitelady - My old cat, Bob, was like that. I almost lost him to a kidney infection and blocked urethra when he was younger. (kidney disease finally got him) He had to have 4 different pills at different times of the day. He could hold a pill in his mouth for I swear 45 minutes, and still spit most of it out when I let go of him.
He'd let it foam out the sides if nothing else.
I hated medicating that cat.
Hey, I was watching a TIVO'd episode of SG1 from last night as I was reading this thread.
flory
you must be under alien mind control.
In some TV appearances I've seen, Ellison has appeared - hostile to something about women, in a turnoff kind of way.
the Popular Front For the Liberation of Alien Technology would have no choice but to send you to a re-re-education camp.
That's in Kansas, right?
maple syrup snorting bastard.
Eeeewwwww.
Doesn't that kinda gum up the sinuses?
Riiiippleeyyyyy!
Doesn't that kinda gum up the sinuses?
its better to cook it on the spoon and inject it into your
pancakes
That's in Kansas, right?
actually, Oklahoma. but they smell the same.
Doesn't that kinda gum up the sinuses?
Naa, it makes for sweeter boogers.
Truth.
How did we get to all these lies?
Centuries of them!!
you must be under alien mind control.
matthew
Hadda do sumthin while I was waiting for the bad tornado movie to start.
Alien technology, esp. extra-solar?
I think I'd be more valuable doing analysis and writing and supporting from back here, while lithe young infantry went off on my behalf.
Naa, it makes for sweeter boogers.
smalfish©
Attention Atriots - do *not* give this man NTodd's email. If you do, your picture will be sharing bandwidth with a very sick man.
...Didn't Dick go more than a little crazy at the end?
Well, probably long before that... but he wrote both "A Scanner Darkly" and "Valis" during some of his most manic periods and they're both fucking classics.
Crumb did a great story about him, The Religious Experience of Phillip K. Dick which is just gorgeous...
Hey! I'm a famous "atriot" now, too!
QC's a Republican!!!
QC's a Republican!!!
flory
Where's my loot?
Hey! I'm a famous "atriot" now, too!
speech, speech
Attention Atriots - do *not* give this man NTodd's email. If you do, your picture will be sharing bandwidth with a very sick man.
Awww, c'mon now.I'm not all that.I have *some* redeeming qualities,dont I?
At least one?
.
Maybe the reason we have so many conspiracy theories about the Government hiding information about Aliens, UFOs, and whatnot is that deep down we suspect that we would do the same. That, like Ike in My Science Project we would say "Bury it!" I think most of us would.
Me? Guess I'll find out when it happens...
Hey! I'm a famous "atriot" now, too!
I'm an in-famous atriot.
"What does in-famous mean"
"Well, it means more than famous... he's IN famous"
"ahhhh"
Hey! I'm a famous "atriot" now, too!
THats one armed and dagerous lib.You better retract that pic,or the EFFABEEEYE will be all over you,fristy like.
It's not hard to find NTodd's email... go thru his homepage.
dave,
I was gonna bring up Crumb earlier during Satan's Tornadoes, but then remembered that Kurtzman sent him on assignment to Bulgaria, not Romania.
that Crumb, he's the fucking best. read his latest story in the new Zap?
It's not hard to find NTodd's email... go thru his homepage
HA!
Take that Flory!
maybe we've all seen the aliens, but got hit by those memory erasers
I'm an N famous atriot.
It's not hard to find NTodd's email... go thru his homepage.
Thersites
Now ya dunnit!!!
He'd let it foam out the sides if nothing else.
I hated medicating that cat.
Tena | Homepage | 06.26.05 - 12:24 am | #
Tena - that has happened, plus finding a pill he spit out after I thought it was down the throat.
the Popular Front For the Liberation of Alien Technology would have no choice but to send you to a re-re-education camp.
That's in Kansas, right?
Thersites
This week it's in a treehouse in Whitley Streiber's back yard.
that Crumb, he's the fucking best. read his latest story in the new Zap?
Hard to believe there's another "Zap" after the dust-up in the last one! Gotta check it out...
Jesus, all those guys are in their 60s now!
PFFLAT?
there's a new ZAP?
damn.
and there's still thunder and lightning in the area, so good night sweet bats of Luna
It has now become a matter of accepted fact, at least among the British public, that on the night of 14 - 15 November 1940, rather than compromise a decisive source of intelligence, Winston Churchill allowed the city of Coventry to be left to the mercies of the German Air Force.
Darryl Pearce
It might help if you read the whole page you linked to, instead of repeating only the first paragraph. The last paragraph:
Proof enough that no one left the city to burn for reasons of high strategy is the fact that on the afternoon before the raid Bomber Command attacked 27 enemy airfields and even Berlin. The unfortunate fact is that the raid was expected over London, not Coventry. Even so, 119 aircraft were launched to protect the city once the bombers were seen to be heading for it. Coventry, as the historian Ronald Lewin has written, is a twice-crucified city: once by the bombers and then by those writers who, despite the evidence to the contrary, spread the lie that the city was martyred to protect "Ultra."
Hey! I'm a famous "atriot" now, too!
THats one armed and dagerous lib.You better retract that pic,or the EFFABEEEYE will be all over you,fristy like.
Don't Tread On Me
Have to admit, I momentarily wondered why flory was being so mean to smalfish.
.
Wasn't this on Chapelle Show, essentially? I mean, on that, he revealed to the world that the U.S. government not only had a cure for AIDS, but had known of the veracity of magic for sometime, as well as aliens and their fast-ass spaceships/teleportation.
Via Kos, Site of the Day.
It might help if you read the whole page you linked to, instead of repeating only the first paragraph.
...well, okay.
But a careful and thoughtful consideration of evidence in its entirety will necessitate a slowing down of the discussion thread.
However, the editor in me thinks the most important fact should be presented FIRST in the story!
I waited a long time for the Tornado movie to start here on the West coast, and now I see the movie really blows.
Jeez Dave, I was just reading that.
I would use the masses' fear of aliens to my advantage and make me and my good ole buddies billions.
George W Bush | Homepage | 06.25.05 - 10:25 pm | #
Damn! What a good answer!
Dave - thanks for the link. You're right, it was gorgeous.
Ciao, moonbats. I've got to upstairs.
Have to admit, I momentarily wondered why flory was being so mean to smalfish.
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agave
Hmmmphhh.
You want your Atripic sharing space with a man who appreciates sweeter boogers? 
I waited a long time for the Tornado movie to start here on the West coast, and now I see the movie really blows.
Toonscribe
Yeah, me too. I kinda gathered that from reading the liveblog - the troops were only half trying - but I still hadda check it out myself.
Toon
I don't know, we have fun watching it here. All three of us were making rude remarks through the flick including the 80+ mother-in-law. It was a blast.
" maybe we've all seen the aliens, but got hit by those memory erasers
matthew"
th* tr*ck *s t* *s* s*m*-r*fl*ct*v* c*nt*cts.
by n*t *s*ng v*w*ls th* FB* c*mp*t*rs c*n't r**d th*s. n**t, h*h?
Toons--that flick totally blew chunks.
terror joe
Y**h... R*ght.... Wh* *s th*t kn*ck*ng *n y*our fr*nt d**r ab**t n*w?
Why is it my use of the english language and spelling of same goes totally on the fritz when I am commenting here?
Damn. I shall blame it on Eli.
but I still hadda check it out myself.
flory
That's how I felt about it -- had to see for myself. Plus I've been known to like movies other people can't stand. Also, I'll also sometimes watch a sci fi movie just for the special effects. But this Tornado movie really has nothing to recommend it. No cheesy goodness; just cheese.
EkCenTrik--that's why it's so much fun!
You want your Atripic sharing space with a man who appreciates sweeter boogers?
Too late babe!
At least I did'nt send one with my finger up my nose.
Mr Deere and I used marble mortar & pestle to crush pillls to powder we then mixed in w/food (again, turkey),
This worked well for us, as opposed to trying to cram pill down cat's throat!
I try, on occasion, to brush our cats' teeth, with very little success, thus far! Using "poultry flavored" paste.
Uh-huh.........
Re: Secrets
"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything."
- Mark Twain
I have used this simple and pure thought to guide my life for 40+ years.
Just saying.
-
and, oh, yes, FUCK BUSH!!!
The two movies I find myself liking more each time I see them are the Epoch series. For some reason they hang together for me. I feel like I should view them as crappy and cheapo flicks, but they seem to work.
"Y**h... R*ght.... Wh* *s th*t kn*ck*ng *n y*our fr*nt d**r ab**t n*w?
EkCenTriK"
*h cr*p! g*tt* g*!
I don't know, we have fun watching it here. All three of us were making rude remarks through the flick including the 80+ mother-in-law. It was a blast.
EkCenTriK
Maybe that was my problem -- not enough company in the old home office where I'm watching.
It's an interesting question,
First we have to realize that our deep rooted belief in Christ (as a nation) will lead to many problems.
AS of now according to the far religious right UFOs, abductions, are all real but they're not Aliens; they're actually Demons; Demonic Space craft piloted by Demons and or the Devil to sway non-believers away from Christ citing a Passage from the Bible
"Also, Satan is called the Prince of the Power of the Air (Eph. 2:2)""
Taken literally Satan controls the power of the Air could be viewed (and is) as a description of a propulsion from a powerful space craft, something Paul couldn't express in this works seeing as how the word "Space Ship" doesn't exist.
The draw back to being Human is when we lose control, when we feel lost- we flip out and join the craziest groups of people around at the time just so long as there's someone out there who doesn't seems in perfect control. Nazi Germany during the Rise of Hitler is a great example of this, a broken bitter people, shells of their former glory paved a way towards one of the greatest Genocide in our history.
As soon as those words were uttered by President Bush "Aliens are real, Aliens Exist" Two extreme groups would arise
I can see the thousands of Doomsday cults/ Churches popping up all over the world, preparing for the end of Days and plans of assassination against the visitors and destruction of any and all who "Serve Satanic forces".
The Second would be modeled after the Cargo Cults of the South Pacific. The idea that they're better than us, their "God(s)" is better than our own, their advanced technology and culture would make them a wiser species and in turn Closer to God and eventually they would start to be worshipped by some as Gods.
There would a great conflict between each groups and everyone else is caught in the middle.
The Premise of Stargate is that of the Paleo-Seti Origin, extraterrestrial intervention in our early history, the "Gods" we collectively worshipped were actually Aliens that created our cultures, gave us spoken language, science, law and so forth. If these Aliens came down and said they were responsible for creating Life or being directly involved in the development of the first cultures on the planet there would be serious questions of faith and identity, Who are you?, Why are we here? Are these beings our "God"?
To reveal something that changes everything we know about, well...everything we know is far too great to just release at once.
If it were up to me I would slowly release it, over the course of a 100 years or so, give time so our species can adapt to the thought of alien life. Intentionally give sloppy "Cover-ups" of crashes, pay people in Hollywood and advertisement to make more movies and TV shows about the very subject.
We're not ready to know as a people yet.
Gee, I haven't given any thought to this
do as you wish, it's none of my bismuth.
renato
I say, lithium eat cake!
THe movie,thats on now,Nuke train.Ain;t half bad.
At least rob lowe can somewhat act.
Speaking of Stargate -- anyone ever see the animated spin-off that ran for a year on Fox Saturday morning? A show called Stargate Infinity.
I'd cut a deal so I could hang out with the alien force after they came into my dimension and smoked all the idiotic motherfuckers who voted for Bush. I wouldn't even ask for a seat at their new, power-mad table. Just an Ambassadorship to some distant planet in their dimension where the President is Howard Dean's alternate reality clone.
Hey, it's just a theory.
A missing white woman was attacked by a shark in Florida.
I say, lithium eat cake!
Gold,pure gold!
.
A missing white woman was attacked by a shark in Florida.
Incog
And where was Michael Jackson's apprentice?
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I would only tell France and then blame the resulting chaos on them since I would claim they knew all along.
Then I would bomb France and occupy it but only after we napalmed the Burgundy region.
Then I would rape all the French women after they all admitted they knew about the ancient technology that they were hiding from the world.
Then I would take a vacation at my ranch in Texas. For a month.
You want your Atripic sharing space with a man who appreciates sweeter boogers?
flory
I guess not
Sorry smalfish
.
I'm not going to go over the previous 300+ posts but here it is.
I've been a fan of Stargate since it's inception on Showtime 9 years ago.
I have all the episodes memorized.
I can also say with honesty that the writers took much of the mythology they depended on earlier from the conspiracy theories regarding aliens from a lizard race which once colonized this planet in search of gold and whose planet would rotate into close proximity every so many thousand years. The idea goes that the lizard race left half breed children here who later went on to produce more half breed children with the human race. Some have stated that George H. W. Bush and all the Bush family were descendents as some crackpots claimed to have seem Bush 'blink' in and out from a lizard like image back to human as if his illusion generator had gone on the fritze.
But the premise continues that they came here searching for gold and other highly valuable elements and used their technology to set themselves up as gods and competing factions gave rise to the various mythologies. This concept was also used by Chris Carter of the X-Files as the basis of his story and various aspects of the stories can be found in almost every mythology as the concept of the lizard, or 'snake' has managed to find itself at the foundation of almost every religion in the world.
But back to the original question, Atrios asks whether as president would I reveal the information, the answer is that until we became president and were privy to all the facts and status information it might be more beneficial to the human race to remain blissfully ignorant.
Stargate's writers have managed to write in a successful reason for keepting the stargate secret. Mainly because once it's existence is known a great many nations and people will demand access or equal access to the stargate and any information it has provided.
In other words, too many fingers spoils the pot. If you have too many people demanding access, what happens when you tell them no?
Problems arise.
So I would keep them ignorant until such time as it's existence is not considered too much of a shocking revelation forcing changes in their thinking.
MYOB'
.
"Name a space opera show since the
original Star Trek that had a
real sense of humor."
The Red Dwarf was wonderful.
I have never given pills to cats but dogs are fairly easy. I dig a small hole in cheese and put the pill there. Only one dog ever learned to eat the cheese and then spit the pills out. I had to use the veterinarian technique on her and she would then hate me for the rest of the day.
You want your Atripic sharing space with a man who appreciates sweeter boogers?
flory
I guess not
Sorry smalfish
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agave | 06.26.05 - 1:18 am | #
You guys just have no concept of what consitutes bad taste.I submit it is you who are gross by not coating *your* boogers before consumption.
I have a question: if you knew that Armando, the house writer over at dkos, was a hopeless hack, would you tell anyone or keep it a secret for the the sake of lefty blog civility?
Kos needs to get some folks who can actually write and think on his frontpage.
and fuck KKKarl Rove, as well.
Back out of whack, on pain pills, muscle relaxants. Barely conscious, never mind coherent!!
Hope you all sleep well, have sweet dreams.
G'night/SDF
I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.
This POV on PBS about Shelby Knox of Lubbock is pretty amazing.
All hail Shelby Knox! My new hero!
You guys just have no concept of what consitutes bad taste.I submit it is you who are gross by not coating *your* boogers before consumption.
Mr fish, a gentleman does not have boogers, sir. I fear you have offended my delicate sensibilities.
And now we fight! by proxy, of course... I choose Eli !
For the tech guys and girls: any suggestions on a tiny laptop? I want to get Monsieur one for our anniversary.
I submit it is you who are gross by not coating *your* boogers before consumption.
smalfish©
Ya see - ya lose me at *consumption*.....
EkCenTriK & terror joe
* h*p* y** h*v*n't st*rt*d * n*w w*y *f t*p*ng, *v*r h*r*. *t's j*st n*t c**l. G**d th*ng th*r*'s s*m**n* *t t*rr*r j**'s d**r.
MYOB
There was some wacko crap like this on usenet and websites.
Reptilian aliens.
People, a person?, would post deranged shit on newsgroups about this.
On one website this guy would put pictures thru Photoshop filters until you could 'see' the lizards.
I wrote it off to a loose group of people with mental problems that had found a common delusion.
Hmmmm
.
I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.
Freedom! Horrible freedom !
Night SD - hope the drugs help. Back pain is a bitch....
Sally
Depends on what he does with it. To be honest, I am completely happy with the Ibook for what I use it for. But if he has some heavy apps to deal with, a completely different picture.
If it is intel, I have always had great success with Toshiba. And curse myself everytime I get woo-ed away by Dell. I suffer for it in the end.
All hail Shelby Knox! My new hero!
Like in olden times, when kids stood up.
I wrote it off to a loose group of people with mental problems that had found a common delusion.
Hmmmm
.
agave
You were right. You couldn't have known they'd end up running your government.....
How many of you people eat oysters--on purpose!!--and you're giving Smallfish a hard time because he likes a little Log Cabin on his boogers! Get real!
Hey, in Mexico it's a delicacy, called Mocos Dulces. Would I lie?
sallyh - I'm now on my 2nd Sony Viao - and this one only weights 3.5 lbs. I've never had any serious hardware issues with either one.
But they are relatively pricey.
EkCenTrik--he just wants a tiny one to answer email and play games and maybe CDs on for travel. He's got a pretty nice Inspiron from work, and I've got a Toshiba (for workhorses, you can't beat them, in my opinion). Something you can easily toss in a small backpack.
How many of you people eat oysters--on purpose!!
Ahhh, oysters... the ocean's slimy Cracker Jacks.
Plus, they make you wicked horny... whoohoo !!
Sally
The Ibook might do the trick then. It looks simplistic, but it just fits into the need nicely. I use it for entertainment and work related needs but I do not run Office or anything extensive. Have not been happier. And fairly light weight and fun to dink with coming from a Windows world.
Just read all 370 posts and the funniest sci-fi show ever....
MST 3000
Broke me up.
Mr fish, a gentleman does not have boogers, sir. I fear you have offended my delicate sensibilities.
Ripley
Exactly!
We have desicated mucus.
And I have to take a stand here.
All Booger (desicated mucus) Biters OUT!
And I will not apologize in the morning.
.
OWL
Wh* d* y** h*p* S*m**n* *s *t J**'s d**r?
No log cabin here(I'm a man dammit!, no offense Incog,or anyone). I use the real stuff or nothing at all.
Ya see - ya lose me at *consumption*.....
Hey!At least I had ya till the end.
How many of you people eat oysters--on purpose!!--
You make a good point Mr. Doozer, sir. I hereby retract my objections to the inclusion of the smallfish© Atripic.
I looooves me some raw oysters.
Shelby Knox has guts and poise. What a kid.
Incorporate the latter part of this thread into a spy novel and it could have been written by Ian Phleming himself.
And I have to take a stand here.
All Booger (desicated mucus) Biters OUT!
Party pooper.
.
BeaverBoy
Why did they ruin all those cool movies with all that commentary!
All i wanted to do was yell
DOWN IN FRONT!
.
Incorporate the latter part of this thread into a spy novel and it could have been written by Ian Phleming himself.
Ek wins.... by a nose....
All Booger (desicated mucus) Biters OUT!
Bernie Boogerbiter....
He's a man and a girl de-lighter...
I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.
Freedom! Horrible freedom !
Ripley
The Green Brain. Yeeeeech. I mean, Frank Herbert can flat write, OK? (Even if he did pretty much run Dune into the ground), but he musta been drunk when he wrote that stinker. People walking around all covered in squirming bugs, hooked into the Insect Overmind, as the next step in Human Evolution? Gag me with a flyswatter...
Kang/Kodos 2008
Ek wins.... by a nose....
Ripley
Mucus been made of Ek's skills - but time will tell...
Just finished reading alll those posts. I would tell the people. But, I have a question re the stargate...
What would you do if the Gov't suddenly came out and said... we have access to ancient technology that allows us to travel to other planets, aliens exist and potentially threaten Earth - ?
Party pooper.
.
smalfish©
not even ....
.
See, for example, the "The evil Dick Cheney, lizard-brain" link on this guy's page.
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
To me it never made a whole lot of sense to keep things secret. I suppose I can see it from a "we want to keep access to the new tech restricted so we ahve a leg up on other people" point of view, but that has always struck me as a rather feeble excuse for a power grab.
There are other factors to consider. Basically, if not looked at in the contact of a TV show, if this were really happening, then for most of the time the situation would be extremely grim. Looked at in terms of probabilities the human race rated to be wiped out or enslaved with a ridulously high probabillity, and, a fairly good argument could be made that just releasing all the information to the public would cause widespread panic and not help the situation, as what could be done was already being done.
However, this is looking at it from a purely cost-benefit point of view, and I feel the public's right to know events that are likely to drastically affect everyone's lives is greater then the negative conseque4nces that may or may not result from that knowledge.
As long as we're talking about fiction and government, I'll shamelessly blogwhore...
There's a new podcast up on the homepage.
What would you do if the Gov't suddenly came out and said... we have access to ancient technology that allows us to travel to other planets, aliens exist and potentially threaten Earth - ?
CJ
Find out the price of a ticket?
What would you do if the Gov't suddenly came out and said... we have access to ancient technology that allows us to travel to other planets, aliens exist and potentially threaten Earth - ?
Screw the license requirements and NO LIMITS!
MST 3000- They had some of the best lines.
Could never go to a Star Wars movie after without wanting to suggest a good conditioner to Chewbacca or something in Yodaspeak.
You'd think the those SW geeks would have appreciated a few clever bon mots.
Damn purists.
Stargate tech? That's not the kind of info you give to some fucking civilian, even if he is an elected official.
Looked at in terms of probabilities the human race rated to be wiped out or enslaved with a ridulously high probabillity
Hah!
Not if you had General O'Neill running things......
All Booger (desicated mucus) Biters OUT!
One does not bite boogers. Well, OK, the really big ones. No, one dips them in Louisiana Hot Sauce, tilts back the head, and lets them slide right down likw Bluepoint...uh...boogers.
I mean, Frank Herbert can flat write, OK?
Word.
Right now,I'm reading his "The Jesus incedent".
The man can fold all kinds of topical issues into a science fiction book like no other.
When it comes to booger jokes I always say "Ask snot what you can do for your country? But then when it comes to phlem gags, I am just a hack. But I digress, let's keep to the tissues folks.
And I'm still wondering why Eli would go all the way to Mars to declare war...
Doozer?
Eeewww.
Just....eeewwwww...
OWL
Wh* d* y** h*p* S*m**n* *s *t J**'s d**r?
EkCenTriK | 06.26.05 - 1:40 am | #
B*c**se *t st*pp*d h*m fr*m t*p*ng l*k* th*t.
**h N*... S*m**n*'s *t m* d**r, t**.
*h, *t's *k. J*st * c*t.
Not if you had General O'Neill running things......
Too bad the administration is writing him out of the script.
I doubt SG1 will hold up after this next season.
I'd simply keep it to myself, go back to the early 60s and spend the next 40 years hanging out with R.Crumb and learning to draw.
When it comes to booger jokes I always say "Ask snot what you can do for your country? But then when it comes to phlem gags, I am just a hack. But I digress, let's keep to the tissues folks.
Geez, Ek, you're such an intellectual about it. Snot rocket science, y'nose...
Is this the current idealistic me who has suddenly become president? Or the person who slogged their way through years of local, state and finally national politics to arrive in the Oval Office a paranoid, desperate, shell of my former self who wonders if there is enough soul left to keep me out of hell?
Knowing which of these two scenarios I am faced with would make the answer - obvious.
Damn, the cats have broken the code.
Crap, I just sent in the clear.
Double crap, this is on a blog.
At least the ocelots haven't shown up yet.
There is still hope. Hmmm, I beleive I accidentally left the ferrets in the fridge last night. If I can just thaw them out, we may have
a method of countering the cats. Anyone have
any experience at all in defrosting ferrets?
When it comes to booger jokes I always say "Ask snot what you can do for your country? But then when it comes to phlem gags, I am just a hack. But I digress, let's keep to the tissues folks.
THere it is folks...If you think * I * have a sick mind,your sadly mistaken.....
Why would the aliens be dangerous? They might be benign creatures who come to see how far we have evolved and then go back home to wait another million years for some improvement. Or they might have nothing comparable to warfare or kindness in which case they probably wouldn't bother checking us out at all.
If I was an alien I'd stay at home. Come to think, that's what I should have done.
Anyone have
any experience at all in defrosting ferrets?
EkCenTriK | 06.26.05 - 1:58 am | #
Microwave them?
...let's keep to the tissues folks.
EkCenTriK
At this rate, EkCenTriK will be bringing punmeister Eli to his sneeze...
oysters
I made some for Melissa years ago.
I like mine a little steamed to firm them up and conscentrate the taste.
She bravely ate a few, we had just met, and I know now from the face she made then, taht now she would say, 'These are gross!'
We stopped at a Sea Food Place, lately, on a whim and they had a happy hour special of boiled shrimp and oysters.
Cheap!!
The oysters were raw, and she LOVED them!
Who woulda knew?
.
I doubt SG1 will hold up after this next season.
smalfish©
Yeah. Sad but true..
I don't see a new cast carrying the show.
At this rate, EkCenTriK will be bringing punmeister Eli to his sneeze...
I'm running my nose right out of this disgustin.
Dr. Cb, Pungested
I have my moments, but Eli gets the girls. Course he isn't married either I believe, so he can.
Anyone have any experience at all in defrosting ferrets?
This is why America needs Martha Stewart. God, I love that woman!
Ok,
I'm sorry bout the booger biter thing.
.
Hi, all,
I have a question that is not on topic, but I figure after 379+ posts things are already far enough off topic for me to insert this. Mea culpa if this is an intrusion.
I just recently heard again the old flypaper argument advanced - "we're fighting in Iraq to kill the terrorists there rather than here...." and it hit me that there is implicit in that statement an attitude regarding Iraq that hasn't been covered before (that I've read).
I think everyone here has already concluded that the Neo-con artists don't really give a damn about Iraq, democracy or anything else that doesn't benefit them. However, has it been noted here that the flypaper analogy is really a change from the original "let's take it to the terrorists instead of them taking it to us"? It has morphed to "let's go to the neighbor's house and trash it so the bad guys won't trash ours", and it seems to me that pointing that out to people might weaken the analogy enough to kill it.
Beyond that, however, I can't get over the fact that it is okay for us to battle with these "terrorists" in Iraq while a few thousand instances of collateral damage take place. If that's not a very dark pot describing a kettle, I don't know what is...
Maybe this is not news to anybody else, but it is for me like Wolcott's surprise that there's a wall he hadn't seen...
Your comments would be appreciated.
If I can just thaw them out, we may have
a method of countering the cats. Anyone have
any experience at all in defrosting ferrets?
EkCenTriK
Let the Python try to hatch them...
Anyone have
any experience at all in defrosting ferrets?
EkCenTriK
Is Athenae around.
And I'm pretty sure I saw an ocelot sneaking around the corner earlier...
Long as the feral burros stay away!
A mucus thread. Who picks these?
Everyone nose by now those little nostril nuggets are great germ innoculators.
After sampling a days' spectrum of the tiny rascals, those caught in the goo are denatured by stomach acids and the HCC's are presented to the immune system.
How about a toast. Everyone suck back a loogie.
'Sante'
"This is why America needs Martha Stewart. God, I love that woman!"
Ripley--you told me you loved redheads!
These puns blow.
Uh, I wasn't anonymous when I typed that message about the flypaper...
Or at least I didn't think that I was...
A mucus thread. Who picks these?
B-u-u-ttt....MO-O-M...smalfish© started it!!!!
Well Sinus I will just achoo anymore phlem jokes and try to be nice. But I guess snot jokes a septum of a demented mind.
Everyone nose by now those little nostril nuggets are great germ innoculators.
A spoonful of maple syrup helps hte medicine go down! The medicine go down. A spoonful of maple syrup helps the medicine go down!
Anonymous, I posted on that idea a week ago and we talked about it here. It's unethical, for sure, and someone suggested that it's like luring the vermin you had in your house into your neighbor's house and then burning that house down.
That this doesn't seem to bother the administration is to me evidence of deep racism in the people concerned.
Oh, I do, Sally... but that Martha... I want to do terrible things to her with a fork. (Steve Martin ref)
Nothing about hairy mucus so far?
Tis a follicle better nose I have than I have ever had before.
And there's the old greeting card:
You may think it's funny
To kiss your honey
When your nose is runny...
But it's snot!
I had the very same thought, atablarasa. Basically, it's BushCo's "them other people" syndrome gone mad...
These puns blow.
Dr. Cb, Think about it..
But these puns are all above.
Unless you have Dr. Atrios's temporal haloscan diffusser. Hmmm.
This movie has some of the absolutely WORST CGI SciFi has ever broadcast....
One does not bite boogers. Well, OK, the really big ones. No, one dips them in Louisiana Hot Sauce, tilts back the head, and lets them slide right down likw Bluepoint...uh...boogers.
Doozer
Just when I was gonna Apologize!
.
Anonymous:
I just recently heard again the old flypaper argument advanced[...]
This new house I've moved into has a problem with them damned sugar ants. So, I have taken to putting pieces of candy out on the counters and floors. I go away for a while and when I get back, I can see where they're coming from.
And then I exterminate them at their points of entry.
Don't forget, kids: the Ho Chi Minh Trail goes right through Damascus.
Ripley, and others--this redhead bids you all goodnight, before anyone hocks a loogie in her general direction (ducks)
Toby,enlist of get the fuck out.
Your not wanted here.
Echidne
I was thinking the same but in terms of luring ants.
The other problem I keep running into is the definition of the enemy. Who exactly are we fighting again? I fail to see how we can win unless we firmly attach names and faces to those who are attacking us. Instead we have general terms just as insurgent and terrorist. Of course when we move to specifics, the folks selling this war will have to explain why each is ready to kill our people. And then we end up going back to saying 'okay, which specific group or groups' were originally responsible for 9/11?
At this point, we are flailing around in the dark at everything.
Don't forget, kids: the Ho Chi Minh Trail goes right through Damascus.
Toby Petzold
And we are once again treated to an exhibition of why Tobes is known as stoopid and ugly. Also why nobody likes him...
So, Toby... are we building a democracy or are we using their houses as battlefields?!
And... um, er, uh... why don't you put the candy outside?
First, you invade Iraq. Then you cut taxes, and kill Social Security.
This thread is so fucking long but if someone does read this, is anyone else concerned about the "sudden" disclosure these two mad cow cases?
The whole thing is a bit odd since I've been a john titor fan for a few years now. I love meat but I may have to cool it a bit until I learn more.
Jack - Now fortified with THC!
Heh, heh.
This thread is so fucking long but if someone does read this, is anyone else concerned about the "sudden" disclosure these two mad cow cases?
Dont worry,the story will be buried soon enough.
smalfish, why are you such an illiterate turd?
Good ant poison. Made some today.
Water + sugar + boric acid powder.
Nuke for a few secs or powder won't dissolve.
Put drop or two by ant highways where pets can't access.
Kills the larvae. Takes a few days to work but no nerve toxins.
Can't believe people would use Raid or Black Flag in their kitchens.
So, Toby... are we building a democracy or are we using their houses as battlefields?!
Why can't it be both, Darryl?
smalfish, why are you such an illiterate turd?
Tell me why your such a cultist,and I'll give you a strait answer.
Thanks, all. Even Toby gives good advice in one sense. Of course, his analogy would be more like "let's invite terrorists into New York and then we can find out that they're coming from Afghanistan, which we already knew..." But in the sense that my hope for killing the argument is demonstrably going to fail when coming up against a brick wall of stupidity, well, then he's a definite brick.
Thanks for the tip, Beaver. I'd heard about the boric acid thing, but haven't bothered to figure out where they sell it yet.
smalfish:
Tell me why your such a cultist,and I'll give you a strait answer.
Suits me!
But, atablarasa, these murderers are coming from all over the place into Iraq. The Iranians are working on their Shia friends and the Syrians are working on their Ba'athist friends and the Saudis and Sudanese and Jordanians are there to kill whoever they can find.
But we know that there's some major rat lines coming into al-Anbar from Syria.
That chinless eye doctor in Damascus had better watch his ass.
Anonymous
Believe it or not the Neocons are Idealists. They really do believe in America, but a Dominate America.
Their real reason for the Iraq invasion WAS to spread democracy.
WMDs were a ruse.
When Wolfowitz told a committee of congressmen that Iraq was the central front on terror, to their amazement, he meant it.
What he meant was, if we can bring Democracy to Iraq, the rest of the ME will follow and the hatred towards the US will end. No more US directed terrorism.
But as we can see, It's pipe dream BS.
An idealism tainted by arrogance and cluelessness about other cultures.
They really think they are doing the right thing.
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Only is Cheneyburton can have all drilling rights to new planet access.
The truth of the matter is you have to determine what the type of ant is that you are playing with. To lure them into snacking on the snack you are providing, you have to understand what they like. If you guess wrong, they will avoid the bait period. Exterminators use a variety of bait now to attack the problem. They do not blunderbust the house, they select the bait very carefully. They do not burn down your house or make it so toxic it is unlivable.
Seems to me there are parallels in there somewhere.
But, atablarasa, these murderers are coming from all over the place into Iraq. The Iranians are working on their Shia friends and the Syrians are working on their Ba'athist friends and the Saudis and Sudanese and Jordanians are there to kill whoever they can find.
Even toby doesnt believe ol'dickey.
C'mon tobes,your not clapping loud enough.You should believe that the "insurgency" is in its last throes.Otherwise your against the troops.
Does anyone hold the opinion that CJV has been in the food supply for years and the scope of the damage is so great that to prevent a panic, the info was squelched?
Naaaw, couldn't happen here.
Of course the 20+ year latency would give they who are responsible lots of time to cover their tracks.
What was the question?
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One possible target that might draw terrorists like flypaper is a US convoy staffed with female Marines and civilians.
Okay, Toby, once from the top, and that's it.
We are, by your argument, pulling into Iraq "murderers" who are going to "kill whoever they can find." We are then blwoing the shit out of Iraq, killing innocent Iraqis (you know, those victims of Saddam that we're rescuing for democracy?) in the process. As a proud American, you are celebrating our using those victims as bait and then killing them while we try to get those "murderers."
Pretty damned sick, to use a rape victim to trap a rapist, and to kill the victim in the process...
This is interesting, found it through Kos.
http://tinyurl.com/d3t6y
So we are "winning" the war? This sounds like the prelude to "peace talks". Well we have had the daily body count routine. So when do we wing our way to Paris? The steps of the past seem to be repeating themselves.
Toby,enlist,or shut the fuck up.
GO and reread dicks interview yet again.
Then enlist.
Why can't it be both, Darryl?
This is my brother Darryl and my other brother Darryl.
(Bob Nueheart?)
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I had an ice bucket on the table to keep my pal in me in ice for our tea as we sat & solved all the problems of the world over lunch Friday, and big kitty Felix was curious. After the pal left, I put the ice in a big bowl next to Felix's chow and he really enjoyed licking the ice.
What a beastie. I'm going to go hug him.
I do think CJV has been more abundant than we have been led to believe. Imagine the effect on the economy, our markets, our jobs, the food industry, etc.
It is quite a large disruption to accept so just like Atrios' question about an "alien machine" and your choosing not to disclose it's existence, I think a similar effort has been made with regards to CJV.
John Titor's story is pretty interesting to read up on, even IF it's a bunch of shit. I guess if we don't have an Olympics in 2006/2008 (he said: "As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in 2040.") that may be something to be wary of.
Now what I'd like to see is a little Photoshop composition of Rove's head on Coulter's body. Maybe that Time cover photo would do, just altered slightly with that lovely Karl grinning the way he does when we dress up like that.
Beddy bye. Thanks, all.
The image in my URL is in honor of Woot...Wherever he is.
EkCenTriK, the ant parable is a good one. I recently had a troll on my blog who kept arguing every single post I wrote and his arguments essentially boiled down to believing that if Bush had done something, such as attacking Iraq, then this must be the right thing to do and this must be where the enemies are. We went around in a circle until I realized that no amount of evidence would convince the troll of anything because the Bush administration must be right. It's all emotional and also takes care of the pangs of conscience about killing or torturing the innocent as by definition they couldn't have been innocent.
ExCenTrik--Where do you live with your description of ant exterminators? Because I lived in Florida and Georgis, and the bugmen are fierce and reckless, due to fire ants. Especially in FL where the fire ants were displacing the native ants, to bad effect on local vegetation. I don't know what is best, but I know the fire ants need killing. How to do so is another matter; I don't like poison.
http://www.geocities.com/jackemo...kemoe/
index.htm
Fire ants!
Unstoppable.
All you can do is move them.
(to your neighbors yard?)
Had some pop up right by the porch.
Boiled a big pot of water and poured it over the mound. The ground is so sandy here it went right down.
Next day 1,000s of dead ants.
Next week a big mound by a tree 20' away.
Funny
Melissa was complaining about ant bites. Yeah right, i think.
New here, I didn't know about fire ants, but read up.
My test to determine if they where fire ants? Stuck my finger in the mound and Stirred. Ants all over my hand and nothing. Just when I was thinking, Melissa's nuts, they all start biting!
Welts, then little pimple things, on my fingers for a week! Longer!
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Oh--Echidne is taking ExCenTrik's ant talk as figurative, while I took it more literally. Which is it? I stick to the literal.
War in Iraq. +
Globalism. =
21st century colonialism
The US is creating opponents faster than they can kill them. Law of diminishing returns will result in Toby getting drafted and getting his ass shot off in some dessicated wadi in Jordan.
-And we'll miss him.
Draco, it could be both. Ants are not all bad if you don't like snakes. My grandmother swore that anthills mean no snakes around. Also, if you sit in an anthill with a bare bottom you get relief from arthritis!
Secrets make people sick.
And, I agree that the aliens have already taken over.
I think that Rove is the alien. That's why people who move to disagree with the shrubs change their minds when they go to meet with him at the white house. C'mon - its not JUST because he threatens to smear campaign their asses to kingdom come... its also because he takes off his hideous maskk to reveal his seething huge insect looking head.
Well, okay, he doesn't actually have a mask, and actually looks that way all the time. But somehow, don't ask me how, they get that he has no soul, and they run screaming in horror.
agave--Where do you live, because those fire ants are spreadding from the SE? They even seem to be adapting to colder climates. They're truly pests, and not just for their biting habits. They kill off the native ants who help the native plants.
At UF, it's long been a project to find ways to kill fire ants. They've found Brazillian fungi and mites who kill them. But introducing those organisms into the US is a bit difficult.
not even in my misspent youth, with unlimited access to herbal mind rearrangement, would i have ever spent 10 seconds on such a question.
What a beastie. I'm going to go hug him.
strawhat
I was just Yelling for Zoey. think she sleeping in the garage.
She like ice cubes on the floor.
Slide real good.
And a little stream of water from a faucet will entertain them forever!
LC was good at lapping it as it poured, Zoey can't help but put her nose in it and then snort!
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Name a space opera show since the
original Star Trek that had a
real sense of humor.
Bab5... first 2 seasons of Andromeda... Firefly...
Echidne--I like snakes better than bad ants, though I recognize the importance of good ants. If you had to deal with non-native fire ants in the SE, then you'd know my aversion.
Draco
Clean sheets
Answer there.
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Draco, are those fire ants big? I used to live somewhere with fire ants but they were tiny little red ants, mostly in pine forests and seemed to do no special harm.
Wait, I don't get the whole Toby ant scenario.
You put lots of candy out for the ants, then *go away* for a while?
Well, sounds like a good idea for Phase I of the War on Ants...
1) Feed ants
2) ??
3) Victory!
Echidne--The fire ants infesting the SE are unintentiontal imports from Brazil. They aren't the native red ants. They're small and they have some vicious teamwork; they climb all over you before biting, then they release some pheromone and all 200 of them know to bite at once.
Jeez, Jack, that John Titor stuff is creepy, especially at 3:00 am in a dark apartment.
A Republican would keep it a secret.
A Democrat would convene a world conference to discuss it.
A Republican would let an alien live in his gut, if he thought it would buy him another yacht, and then acuse Democrats of covorting with aliens.
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I would ally with the first aliens to make an offer.
As long as they didn't graze more than 15% of the population, they couldn't possibly be worse than Republicans.
i'd try to evacuate as many liberals and progressives as possible to a safe planet and then i'd blow up the stargate behind me.
i'd blow up the stargate, too, AFTER collecting evidence of alien life and planets, in as many formats as possible and with as many witnesses. Then i'd go public to warn the damn planet that there's competition. Then I'd shoot myself, because I'd hate to see the hate.
Being, of course, a GREAT president (=ABB) I'd see the star gate as a trade passage and would share it with the world... for a modest fee...
A.
Of course, according to this guy we invaded Iraq to get hold of a star gate there.
http://www.exopolitics.org/Study...tudy-
Paper2.htm
This probably makes about as much sense as all the reasons Bush gave us. Come to think of it, if Bush said we were invading to capture an alien star gate I bet Republicans still would have dutifully folloed the party line.
On a side note there is some video out there on the web. I saw them air it once on the Sci Fi channel mysteries show or something like it.
But it was taken from either the international space station or the space shuttle and showed them tracking a small blip, white object as it seemed to descend downward into the Earth's atmosphere. Then you see what looks like a glow coming from the surface and the white blip suddenly does a 180 turn and head almost exactly back up into space from when it came just as some streak of white light comes roaring past it from the surface.
Some have suggested this was proof that we possess weapons and technology capable of detecting and shooting down UFOs. Some have suggested that this was the Tesla howitzer, a long range gun that shoots super heated plasma which can pack quite a punch. But the images on the video do say one thing. The UFO does not 'bounce' off the atmosphere as some critics claim. The angles of the blip as it descends show it coming in at roughly a 30-45 degree angle and returning back at almost the same angle. According to physics and geometry this could not be so since if it bounced off the atmosphere it should have done so at a 120-135 degree angle.
A search of the web for this video should not be too hard to find. If I discover it I will pass it on.
MYOB'
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the presidency being a tool for domination and acquisition and maintenance of private property you would remain ignorant.
I'd hire a PR firm for 300 million to help me explain to everybody why this is a good thing.
HMMM -- "We are only as sick as our secrets."
aelred@net-link.net
This president would declare war against the Axis of Intergalactic Evil
Never mind those damned aliens. Gotta keep stumping for Social Security "reform".
that Daniel Jackson is a putz.
You watch Stargate now? Welcome to the clan, Mr. Black!
First I would send all my political enemies through the Stargate to some icy world inhabited by wooly mammoths, then I'd tell people about it.
I think the religious implications alone would do more damage than good at the present time. Considering how fundamentalism of all religions is on the rise, to disclose that our beginnings aren't what whatever religious text says they are would cause world wide panic.
Even after 40 years of Startrek and other science fiction shows and books that have helped us get used to the idea that we are not alone, there are too many religious fanatics out there that would react violently in face of that truth.
I would guess the type of governmental black department that would manage ufo technology/interaction would be too secret for the common US president. These guys come and go every four or eight years and can't be trusted with the most secret of secrets.
I would bet Eisenhower was the last American president to actally have first hand involvement in military/covert ufo information/programs. Certainly, a two dimensional, empty suit such as our current president would be kept in the dark on such matters.
Share it with the powerful or influential nations (US, Canada, Brazil, China, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Poland, Russia, India, Japan, S. Korea) and forge a secret plot for us to seize control of the planet.
From the public, I would keep it secret until we have enough tech to not only take over the world, but launch a campaign to dominate the stars and spread humanity to all the worlds in the local group of galaxies (Andromeda, Milky Way, Triangulum and the 30 or so small galaxies around us).
In other words, human domination of the universe.
Ooh, forgot Australia, S. Africa and possibly Argentina.
If those fuckers had oil and were threating Israel I'd invade their asses. Now watch this drive.
I suggest you watch the movie PRIMER. Made for 7 thousand bucks. Very interesting take on time travel.
Enjoy.
Enact massive tax cuts.
Q: how does this stargate compare in complexity to a bicycle?
This not a secret, but if you are mad enough to want impeachment do not go to Impeach.org.On the subject of honesty and resonsibility, but off topic. I have TWICE been burned by Impeach .org. After paying for bumper stickers, they were never delivered and they will NOT answer my emails of inquiry and protest.
Any one else having trouble with them? We all want impeachment, but
Immpeach.org is being slimy.
This not a secret, but if you are mad enough to want impeachment do not go to Impeach.org.On the subject of honesty and resonsibility, but off topic. I have TWICE been burned by Impeach .org. After paying for bumper stickers, they were never delivered and they will NOT answer my emails of inquiry and protest.
Any one else having trouble with them? We all want impeachment, but
Impeach.org is being slimy.
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