I'MMA LET YOU FINISH
The whole farking American media is in the tank.
Gormless traitors the lot of them.
I've never agreed with frist, ever. Before I was a Scientologist I never agreed with frist. And when I started studying the history of frist, I understood more and more why I didn't believe in frist.
Fuck KKKarl Rove!
Yep, that's your liberal media right there.
Semen stains: important
revealing the name of an undercover agent: irrellevant
Semen stains: important
What semen stains? Where? Where?!
Oh, on our chins...
And during the time they say nothing an election is held in which the political operative in question works feverishly to smear his client's opponent with scurrilous charges of borderline treason and cowardly behavior
SOP for Rove. That rat bastard has more bad Karma built up than satan. And so does our press corp.
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Now, they all keep quiet?
Now they keep quiet because they are afraid they will be harmed. Once that becomes the operating mode it's not easy to break free. Pacts with the devil....
Years from now, Chris Matthews's grandkid will ask him, "Grandpa, what did you do back in '04 ,when our country was almost destroyed by the Bush and the NeoCons? You were a reporter back then, right?"
And Matthews will put his arm around the little tyke and say, proudly, "You know that Nantucket cottage where we vacation every year, Johnny? That's what Grandpa did."
If someone submitted this story as fiction, no publisher would accept it. Too far fetched.
The whole farking American media is in the tank.
Couldn't agree more. The enormous amount of criminality they suppressed before the election is staggering.
The biggest joke about the "liberal media" is how chummy they are with the GOP. They can't criticize Republican hypocrisy because it's their own.
That reporter that Huff referenced said he knew it was Rove all along (ooh, we're so impressed with your insider knowledge, you FUCKING DIPSHIT) but he never said anything because he didn't want to get dragged in front of the grand jury.
You fucking traitor.
You didn't want to inconvenience yourself, so you let the apparatus of the justice system waste huge resources trying to determine who was responsible. Not to mention the possibility that they might even get away with it.
Fucking traitor.
Now they keep quiet because they are afraid they will be harmed.
Just to play devil's advocate (how appropriate) - y'think so?
Does the misAministration really have that much influence over the press? Or is there something else at work here?
Serious question - I don't pretend to understand why our media is being so fucking gutless with such important matters in front of it. Dan Rather aside, you'd think there was SOMEONE willing to put their ass on the line.
As usual, Digby nails it.
Definitely a mighty sad commentary on the state of journalism. Where are the genuine muck-rakers of yesteryear?
How dare you sit in judgement?
Do you have any idea what a year at Sidwell Friends costs?
Guy,
Excellect Turd Blossoms. Sweet!
And the media wonders why everyone is mad at them? Sheesh!
At this point gutlessness doesn't describe it.
It's complicity.
What's slowly dawning on Digby, and any number of others, is that the media is just like the Mafia. It protects "it's own." And "it's own" includes the powers-that-be because the lazy motherfuckers are loathe to do any actual work or upset the apple cart of the status quo. But now they've hit the wall. Judy Chalabi and Kenny Bania can't be turned into First Ammendment martyrs when anyone with an ounce of sense knows they're scumbags. Couple that with the fact that Dubbya's polling through the floor and the precious few who bothered to tune in to his last speech weren't buying it and the stage is set for Uncle Karl dressupin Catherine Zeta-Jones drag to bleat out a chorus of "Nowadays" instead of his usual "But I Can't Do It Alone."
But how do we tell the children about a blowjob? Really, unless the MSM shows signs of life or some big name Democrats start yelling and probably a combination of both this will be allowed to die.
I thought that Iran/Contra was more serious than Watergate but it petered out because no one wanted to face the possibility that the Reagan Presidency began with an act of Treason - encouraging the Iranian Militants to hold on to the hostages until after the 1980 Election. That was unacceptable to contemplate. Will Karl Rove interfering with anti-proliferation efforts make a dent? Did the 9/11 Report that documented the lack of care over potential terror strikes make a difference?
These people lied. They won the election. They played fast and loose in Ohio. They consider themselves bulletproof. Who is going to prove them wrong?
Corporate media is beholden to Bush&co as long as profits grow. I noted in a thread or two below that corporate profits are predicted to have fallen in the 2nd quarter. If the govt. is not helping corporations, why would they continue to tow the line?
You can't blame them for being scared of Karl Rove.....I mean, isn't everyone?
He scares the fuck out of me.
meatgrapesv
One of the distinguishing factors to the neocons is their talent for pathological projection.Thats why rove played the traitor card on liberals.
Editor and Publisher has this extremely TASTY BIT:
Government sources told CNN the federal grand jury was seeking any information about contacts between White House officials and more than two dozen reporters. The grand jury also asked for a transcript of a briefing by former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.
The subpoenaed information regarding telephone calls to and from Air Force One, sources said, covered July 7-12, while the president was on a trip to Africa. The requested transcript was from a briefing during that trip as well.
Air Force One.
Impeachmentpalooza, will it be covered by all the major broadcasts? Live or taped?
let the Grand Jury Goodies continue.
I'm sure we're being far too glib when it comes to Frist, right Tom?
Just to play devil's advocate (how appropriate) - y'think so?
Yes, I do. Fear of job loss, or being harassed - fear of personal retaliation, fear of mockery, fear of losing their self-importance.... Much of it comes not from themselves being the focus but from their employers - who fear their market being squeezed. When Kathryn Graham ran the Post it was necessary only that she back Ben Bradlee - and she could do that on her own judgement and estimation of what the consequences might be. Corporate ownership does not provide the same shield from the consequences. Thus, a corporate media ceases to behave as an independent media and instead is Dilbertised into obedience to the morality and the activity of the market. It isn't even cowardice, any more than it would be bravery to resist for both those things are fundamentally individual.
Oh and that's pretty much why blogs are a real threat, btw, even Online Journals of Daily Political Actions.
Things be heating up, methinks.
Plame Grand Jury Wants Records for Air Force One Phone Calls
By E&P Staff
Published: July 02, 2005 2:35 PM ET
NEW YORK Adding to the growing intrigue in the Plame case, the grand jury investigating the leak of the covert CIA operative's name subpoenaed has a wide range of White House documents, including records of telephone calls from Air Force One and information relating to an internal working group dealing with Iraq, government sources confirmed to CNN on Friday.
"We are complying fully with the request from the Department of Justice," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters Friday.
Government sources told CNN the federal grand jury was seeking any information about contacts between White House officials and more than two dozen reporters. The grand jury also asked for a transcript of a briefing by former White House spokesman Ari Fleischer.
The subpoenaed information regarding telephone calls to and from Air Force One, sources said, covered July 7-12, while the president was on a trip to Africa. The requested transcript was from a briefing during that trip as well.
http://tinyurl.com/dpvy6
Without proof, your words can get you in a lot of trouble -- real serious trouble. Now that the proof is just around the corner, there is no reason to be silent anymore. By coming forth at this point in time, it may prevent the destruction of specific records. Before, it would only tell Rove what he needed to have destroyed BEFORE it was subpoenaed.
Does the misAministration really have that much influence over the press? Or is there something else at work here?
Aside from the corporate media angle, I think too many in the press internalized the "liberal media" bullshit being pimped by Limpballs and Co. I think they went WAY overboard in trying to appear "balanced" by making light of the sins of the GOP to the point that the stopped reporting anything negative about Repukes.
I totally agree with Magnum that it is traitorous for O'Donnell to stay quiet because he didn't want to go to the Grand Jury. But, somehow, that doesn't make sense. It seems he would be a lot MORE protected if he went through the courts instead of blurting out Rove's name on TV. No one seemed at all surprised on the McLaughlin panel, by the way. God. We've all gotten so used to this criminality, you have to stand back to realize its enormity.
so did o'connor retire now to provide cover for rove?
will anyone give a damn if rove/bush appoint some extremist and the media have that to accompany their circle jerk?
Taking a break....
everybody Wang Chung with abandon!
Thus, a corporate media ceases to behave as an independent media and instead is Dilbertised into obedience to the morality and the activity of the market.
So if it's a systemic problem, why is it so much worse now? Or does it just seem so much worse now?
It's only about wealth, celebrity status and staying employed at the very least.
Every "reporter" today knows that they can be removed very quickly from a job that pays in some cases millions of dollars a year. They know no matter how great they think they are, there's someone else waiting for the green light to take their position. Why jeopardize a great job with great pay and privileges to out Karl Rove.
And it's not about ethics so please don't try that.
Everyone has their price. A Chinese friend tells me that all the leaders of the Tianemen Square revolt are either dead or very very wealthy. The Chinese like the Bush White House simply pays off potential trouble makers with wealth and privilege. A bullet in the head is just too messy, and it's more fun (for Rove and the Chinese) to make these reporters and agitators bark for their livelyhood.
I'm sure we're being far too glib when it comes to Frist, right Tom?
BlakNo1
You don't even — you're glib. You don't even know what frist is. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of frist. I do.
I remember the first week the story broke a BBC World Service reporter was asked about it and said "People here are saying the leaker was Karl Rove." But he couldn't confirm. It was one of those many Bushistan stories you never hear of again.
From Digby:
And during the time they say nothing an election is held in which the political operative in question works feverishly to smear his client's opponent with scurrilous charges of borderline treason and cowardly behavior during wartime. The entire election is premised on the fact that the president, this man's client, is the only one capable of handling national security. His prior campaign had been waged with an overt promise to bring honor and integrity back to the White House. Still nothing.
Yes, they covered a crime, and then pretended that they didn't know - so many times. They were also willing participants in the SBV smear - they helped spin the talking points by having the Bushco liars on their weekly shows - all the while knowing what these people are capable of. Shameful.
I remember Chris Matthews calling Rove a genius, during the campaign. That's when lying became an acceptable campaign strategy.
Has there even been a bigger tool than Judith Miller?
She's the journalistic equivalent of a bukkake participant.
After Chalabi used and degraded her for her high profile at the Times, he surely must have spoken highly of her to Cheney.
Then Cheney probably suggested her to Rove as a reporter worthy of leaking on. I mean, leaking to.
She's got no pride, but at least she has the fact that she was fucking right to fall back on.
Hm.
No, 'fraid she doesn't have that either.
Yeah, it's not that it's Karl Rove, we all knew that, it's that the Washington press corps could not bring themselves to cough it up. The years and years of Rovian intimidation paid off.
I wonder if we'll now see a backlash.
Does the misAministration really have that much influence over the press? Or is there something else at work here?
Isn't that pathetic? I cannot believe he was dumb enough to say that out loud.
Thus, a corporate media ceases to behave as an independent media and instead is Dilbertised into obedience to the morality and the activity of the market. It isn't even cowardice, any more than it would be bravery to resist for both those things are fundamentally individual.
Oh and that's pretty much why blogs are a real threat, btw, even Online Journals of Daily Political Actions.
GWPDA, Irate Scholar
I agree. This is what's different today. Bill Hemmer offered the job as CNN Chief White House correspondent...enough said.
Has there even been a bigger tool than Judith Miller?
She's the journalistic equivalent of a bukkake participant.
*spews coffee over screen* BHWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That's when lying became an acceptable campaign strategy.
I think lying has always been an acceptable campaign strategy. The new thing Rove brought to the table was to make it the *only* campaign strategy.
So if it's a systemic problem, why is it so much worse now? Or does it just seem so much worse now?
I think maybe both. The problem doesn't really become recognisable without some kind of obviously not-covered news - in this case Iraq. But so long as there isn't anything significant that gains or loses from the corporatisation, who would notice? If the AZ Republic doesn't go after Joe Arpaio with the same enthusiasm as it used to, who knows? If the New York Times overlooks rising crime statistics in the City or doesn't bother to cover those unpleasant cancer clusters, well - it's not as tho it really matters.... But with Iraq - it's lives.
so did o'connor retire now to provide cover for rove?
If so she did it ass backwards. Next Thursday would have been the best time, media-cycle wise. So no, she didn't.
It's about what's comfortable for THEM. It's been that way for quite a while now.
So two of their own may go to jail, and now they want to start acting like reporters. Just as when they decided they felt personally betrayed by Clinton, and decided to take him down a peg.
Watergate ruined journalism, the same way Hollywood ruined "Saturday Night Live." It became much more important to get a book and movie deal than to afflict the comfortable.
I studied the history of erotic wrestling. Have you?
The Bush administration did this to Plame and Wilson not really to punish them but to show that they are willing to take revenge. A terrorist tactic, aimed at others than the one who suffers. I can see why journalists would be scared. Rove will simply crush the careers of anyone who stands up against him. We are run by a Maffia family, it seems.
no one wanted to face the possibility that the Reagan Presidency began with an act of Treason
Maybe this is the explanation I'm looking for -- that long-standing attitude of "it can't happen here". We can impeach a president for a blow job - but treason and criminal negligence? Naw, America's too good and strong and pure.
Filching from below:
The E&P report has even better news - that the grand jury is going after the WHIG! Sweet Jesus!
Many of the documents subpoenaed Friday relate to the White House Iraq Group, a little-known task force. Newsweek reported that the group was created in August 2002.
The Newsweek report cites an earlier Washington Post article that lists senior political adviser Karl Rove, Bush advisers Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and Vice President Dick Cheney among the group's members.
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1) But..But there was no semen stains involved
2) But..But Karl Rove is a patriot
3) But..But How am I supposed to feed my family if I have no acess to the white house
It is time for an elected dem to hold the press accountable. Hillary should tease them and say yoy sure were in a hurry to take down my husband,but if KR perjury then you are sure to cover it up
So, shall I turn off Casablanca and tune in to CNN to find out how or if they are handling this story?
Someone needs to asked the press why SEMEN is more important than a CIA agent. Then ask what would the press have behaved like if James Carville would have done the same thing during the Clinton administration.
So, shall I turn off Casablanca and tune in to CNN to find out how or if they are handling this story?
Well, let's see how CNN.com is handling things:
Missing Idaho girl found alive; brother still missing
I'd say stick with Bogie.
The E&P report has even better news - that the grand jury is going after the WHIG! Sweet Jesus!
Jeepers. I thought you meant the whig that Jeff Gannon wore when he and Karl played their little love games.
They may have also betrayed Plame because she was in a position to know that they were fixing the intelligence.
Perhaps she, and her still unknown associates, got in the way of the Bushies fake Iraqi WMD. Nevermind that
she was also protecting the national security by work work against "real" WMD
proliferation--Bush & Co had a product they were trying to roll out in time for the election.
Has there even been a bigger tool than Judith Miller?
Judith Fucking Miller is not a tool. She's a willing agent of the regime. She agrees with their policy objectives and does what she can to advance them by catapulting the propaganda.
The important thing is, like you and I talk about frist, whether it's okay, if I want to know something, I go and find out. Because I don't talk about things that I don't understand. I'll say, you know what? I'm not so sure about frist. I'll go find more information about it so I can come to an opinion based on the information that I have.
I'm passionate about learning. I'm passionate about life.
I'd say stick with Bogie.
Pere Ubu
Remember our "problems don't amount to a hill of beans."
BTw, as long as I'm ragging on CNN, isn't this headline about the upcoming G8 summit just a tad condescending?
"Can We Save Them?"
oh, the white man's burden...
Isn't a bit too convenient that Time and O'Donnell decided to release this info last night. Isn't releasing bad news for the WH on a Friday, before a big holiday weekend the administration's modus operandi. Add to that the big story of O'Connor retiring and the timing of the info
is just too fucking convenient for the WH.
Collusion anybody?
What did Bush know, and when did he know it?
Collusion anybody?
QL in NY
What I said earlier...Friday evening before 4th of July 3 day weekend? Something stinks here, worse than usual.
Karl is currently deciding who in the party is going to have to touch a child or kidnap a blonde girl....in order to provide the distraction to keep it out of the mainstream media.
Let's all bet when fox reports it...I say around August 5th.
Collusion anybody?
Collusion to help cover the conspiracy that the E&P article mentions. Those liberal media scamps!
"So, shall I turn off Casablanca and tune in to CNN to find out how or if they are handling this story?"
They're shocked, SHOCKED to learn that Karl Rove is unethical!
What did Bush know, and when did he know it?
melior
That's easy. Bush knows nothing and never will.
Karl is currently deciding who in the party is going to have to touch a child or kidnap a blonde girl....in order to provide the distraction to keep it out of the mainstream media.
Or Senator Kay Bailey Thurston Howell the Third [™Wolcott] could go missing to give the media the mother of all WWWA stories.
Moreover, is it normal that members of the press know the answer to a major mystery but they withhold it, as a group, from the public?
Yes. Often in London, it's because there isn't quite the evidence to prevent a libel suit. In DC, I suspect it's because of the risk of 'losing access', not being invited to the right cocktail parties any more, or being denied a guest room in Nantucket for the summer.
I should also point out that I have, now, an unacceptably low stockpile of smoked oysters if this is going to be Impeachment Summer.
is it normal that members of the press know the answer to a major mystery but they withhold it, as a group, from the public? I thought their job was to reveal the answers to major mysteries.
After the identity of Deep Throat was revealed, there was an ongoing discussion at Poynter's place about what current political mysteries exist. Someone *did* bring up the Plame affair, but I guess it wasn't a mysterall to the media at all.
Just more Downing Street Memo-ish old news now.
Isn't a bit too convenient that Time and O'Donnell decided to release this info last night?
Well, McLaughlin is a Sunday show, sorta. But knowing that Newsweek is going to report on this makes me wonder whether the flushed-Quran kerfuffle wasn't a pre-emptive strike.
But knowing that Newsweek is going to report on this makes me wonder whether the flushed-Quran kerfuffle wasn't a pre-emptive strike.
I don't expect it's necessary to wonder very deeply tho, eh? No, I didn't think so.
Group think is as old as the profession.
Q. How many reporters knew Roy Cohn was gay for 30 or 40 years... How many knew yet said nothing, even when he himself was persecuting homosexuals along with Communists.
A. All of them
Q. How may reportes knew that JFK was cheating on Jackie in the WH?
A. All of them
Q. How many reporters know Chimpy and Dick cooked the books on WMD?
A. All of them.
Need I go on?
Mary Matalin Carville?
Bill C. palsy-walsy with Poppy?
Hillary and Newt?
Man, those investigators and lawyers better have nerves of titanium. BOTH sides will rise up against them.
there was an ongoing discussion at Poynter's place about what current political mysteries exist
I wouldn't rule Rove out on the anthrax letters either.
ITA, about pre-emptive strikes.
Rathergate-memo--->Calling the DSM a forgery.
Isikoffgate---> Newsweek is a lying liberal rag.
Let's understand that the reason the National News Media hasn't reported on the crimes of the Bush Administration is that they are controlled by the Military-Industrial Complex. Some Board Directors at Haliburton, The Carlyle Group, Bechtel, Boeing, etc. can also be found as Board Directors of The Washington Post, New York Times, NBC and ABC and other National News Media.
Connect the dots, why would the National News Media report the war crimes and corruption of the Bush Administration when their owners have stolen billions in US dollars in Iraq. Moreover, why whould they want to shorten the war as they continue to make billions in profits every day the war continues. The National News Media is in league with the Miltary Industrial Complex, both of whom are traitors to American and the American People.
The bottom line is that Bush and his fellow toadies, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc are nothing more than tools for the Military Industrial Complex---all traitors to America for their profits, dripped in American and Iraqi blood.
Why do DC journalists keep quiet about
this "juicy" piece of news? Are they
afraid of ending their careers by revealing the information they know?
Why are so many of them silent?
I'm reposting a comment I made at Americablog because I think it's important and has been overlooked. Please forgive the crossposting.
One thing that is never mentioned anywhere, even in the blogs, is that at one time Plame served overseas in coutries that were believed to be trying to acquire nuclear capability. Surely, every contact she had in those countries, whether they were assets or not, were compromised and perhaps imprisoned or executed, because of Rove.
and it should be ...was compromised..
Surely, every contact she had in those countries, whether they were assets or not, were compromised and perhaps imprisoned or executed, because of Rove.
yes, let's not forget this isn't just a media event. The only discussion in the media is how awful it would be if Judy-poo when to camp cupcake for a few months..... Plames contacts are probably in a lime pit with families destroyed....now you won't hear that on Fox
I am amused by the continual, desparate mewlings of liberals. Keep waiting for Godot, stupids. You LOST. We WON. FOREVER.
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I didn't look where I was going and now I have to go out to the curb to scrape globs of Patterson from the sole of my shoe. Damn!
Is it time for the online "magazines" to convene an ethics panel on the MSM?
Proving once again why Digby is one of the two top writers on the left side of the blogosphere.
... instead, Woodward and Bernstein publish the information found by the Watergate burglers and do their best NOT to reveal who was behind it all.
convene a panel on webzines before it's too late!!!!
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